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Week 14 - Sharing the Joy of a Swedish man on a bus
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This week Justin is feeling like a fraud and Kieran is testing a new style of beer.
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Introduction and Episode Number Confusion
00:00:01
Speaker
This is the Garage Avenger Podcast. I've forgotten what week we are even now. Is Karen. 13 or something? We've been doing it for 14 episodes now. 14 episodes. Oh, okay. Well, welcome everyone to the Garage Avenger Podcast. I'm Karen trying to turn my garage brewed beers into a world-renowned brewery.
Turning Hobbies into Businesses
00:00:28
Speaker
And I'm Justin, otherwise known as the Garage Avenger, trying to share the joy of building my fun machines in my garage with the hope of one day making a living out of it one day. Yeah. We're twin brothers with a passion for creating the world and unexpected taking on a ride through our everyday life and our garages. Nice. I think I didn't screw that one up.
00:00:53
Speaker
ah That was pretty good. There you go. We're getting better. Only took us 14 episodes. Yeah. And it's still shit. And it's still shit, let's be honest. You know, beauty is in the eye as a beholder. yeah yeah Yeah.
Weekly Progress Reflections
00:01:11
Speaker
Well, just what's been happening this week. yeah I said last week that I've been doing two thirds of stuff all. It feels like this week's been even worse.
00:01:24
Speaker
Well, you actually, I mean, compared to like remembering what you said we talked about last week seemed like you actually did quite a lot. So well, didn't feel like that. No, I can get that. Yeah. So tell me the the one third of stuff. all so Well, it's actually more like three quarters of the stuff. Oh, yeah, sorry. Yeah.
Metric vs. Imperial System Struggles
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Speaker
Or 12 18ths.
00:01:55
Speaker
I was throwing fractions out there. See if it sticks. Just but before we go into that, like, yeah I never grew up on the imperial system with inches no and feet, right? How do they work those like fractions out with the measurements? I just don't, doesn't even, I look at like,
00:02:18
Speaker
I'm a foot long ruler or whatever with inches and I still don't understand how they do like one sixteenth of an inch or whatever like it doesn't make any sense to me. I guess it's just like kind of like what's a centimeter and what's a meter like they just know I just figure it out no I was like it's not a half inch it's gotta be a sixteenth of an inch.
00:02:42
Speaker
Metric. Metric baby. Yeah. I have been measuring in metric this week.
Ski Steering Redesign Challenges
00:02:47
Speaker
and Um, yeah so, uh, last week I was, I had kind of fabricated one sort of half ski design. Yeah. That's right. I saw some story on the front.
00:02:59
Speaker
My job was this week to get all the skis finished and get the seat in and steering organized, everything just ready to go. So like we'll get a real basis or understanding of where we're at with the project and potentially I could take it this weekend to like a small hill with a bit of snow and we could just see if it works, right?
00:03:26
Speaker
And what did you get done? Nothing. None of that. I actually... One sixteenth and nothing. One sixteenth and nothing.
00:03:40
Speaker
I decided that I was going to like redesign the ski steering a little bit. and Okay. So I spent basically Tuesday doing that.
00:03:54
Speaker
And then Wednesday is like, right, I'm happy with that. Now I need to fabricate the other side. Yeah. Yeah. So that was pretty easy. I felt like I was like, oh, I just need to cut up more material, exactly the same, tack it together. You know, I knew all my angles. I knew everything because I'd done it before. It took no less than a day, I reckon. No more than a day, I should say. And so I was like, sweet, I'm done. Right. Now I need to work out the steering.
00:04:24
Speaker
and how it's gonna function with with the tie rods and everything. That took me like an hour and was done. And then pretty much from like Wednesday afternoon to Sunday now, I've just stared at it. Completely deer in headlights. No, like deer in headlights. Like, I don't know what to do next. right Like I'm
Creative Blocks and Design Decisions
00:04:49
Speaker
stuck. because ah yeah So I feel like a fraud this week.
00:04:54
Speaker
because I'm, I keep on like feeling like I need to, to get these videos out and and like yeah perform and like, you know that, but then I just can't pull the trigger on a design. Like I've been umming and auring about the back for like a long time. And I'm to literally to this second now, I'm still umming and auring on what I need to do. So what are your options? I mean, what are you thinking about? Yeah. So that's, that's a thing, right? So I've got three options.
00:05:23
Speaker
Option one was the one I was going to go with originally is right I've got ah an old snowboard that's ah like a 125 long. Right. And I was thinking just... Pretty big. Yeah, it's pretty big. But I was thinking I'm going to chop the back end of it off. Right. So, you know, you don't need it to be able to turn around and spin around and go backwards. So. Yeah.
00:05:47
Speaker
I figure I just chopped the end of it off. It would make it around a meter, maybe maybe less than a meter actually, about 19. And then just basically bolt it onto the swing arm of the of the sled, of the old ATV frame. So it's got suspension and and everything. yeah yeah yep so I was thinking about that. I was like, yeah, that's sweet. If I could do that, it means it's more stable.
00:06:16
Speaker
Yeah. Because three skis is like kind of unstable platform. and But if I have like a wide snowboard, it's it's like 25 centimetres wide at the widest point. It's quite quite wide. So which means it's quite stable. But then I was looking at it and I was like, but look at the friction. Like, how are you going to beat the time? Yeah, that's right. I've got 25 centimetres of friction. Right.
00:06:45
Speaker
on this thing. That's what she said. um Yeah. All right. So I was like, right. What if I use a ski instead of a snowboard? Just one? Just one ski on the back. One ski on the back. That sounds a bit sketchy. Yeah. I kept on looking at it. I like pulled Kristen skis out of the garage and and I like put them there. Kristen came in like, what are you doing with my ski?
00:07:15
Speaker
I was I'm not going to cut it, babe. Relax. Relax. I'm just looking. And um so I kept on looking at it over and over again and like the ski just didn't feel right either. And then the third option is to use two skis.
00:07:33
Speaker
That sounds like a better option in my head. So the only issue I have is, do if I use two skis, do I have them on a solid axle, if you know what I mean? Yeah. yeah yeah So it it they pivot like they should, but the suspension arm is attached to this like solid axle, I guess you'd say. right So it means no matter which way the sled was leaning, the skis would try to stay flat on the surface. right okay Or do I create yeah a like ah independently a pivoting system? So when when I lean the frame over, the skis come up on their edges.
00:08:24
Speaker
as well.
Audience Involvement in Design Decisions
00:08:25
Speaker
yeah Well, first of all, I want to I want to put out something out there. Can the people decide? Yeah. Yeah. Like when you put like a when you put like a and thing out on social or even like people can comment on this podcast and listen this far and be like, we want the snowboard. <unk> We want the independent skis. They want the one ski at the back. I know because they just want to see me die.
00:08:57
Speaker
This is true. But the other thing I was thinking about now, I don't know, maybe this is something that's not an issue. I'm not a designer. So but I was thinking, obviously, you've got the you've got the curvature of the skis as well. If you put individual skis on the back, then all of a sudden, if you go if they go up on an angle to then the back is movie is sliding as well. So you have a potential better steering, but also a potential like yeah like too easy to lose control.
00:09:27
Speaker
I actually think it's the opposite. You think so? Yeah. Well, I mean, okay. It depends on how you put your body weight. but Naturally, this the the ski will dig in either way. All right. So it's kind of, you know, I guess it probably makes sense for it to dig in the right way rather than the wrong way. And then you don't have some issues with the back trying to tear the tear itself off the front. So Yeah, because that's the way, if I have a solid in the rear with two skis, if I go kind of up on an angle, it'll go basically on three skis, if you know what I mean, which might not be a bad thing. If you think about it, now im now I'm actually thinking about this out loud in the podcast. So because you're going up on one ski, you get a tight, like a better turning.
00:10:20
Speaker
Right. Yeah, that's right. This just kind of like your your girl card. But that only matters if you turn if you're putting your body weight on the inside of the like the turn. If you put your body weight on the outside of the turn, you have a problem. It won't break the back wants to fight the turn. Exactly. And that's what I was thinking about. Yeah. So I guess it would be a matter of writing style and figuring out like, okay, you know,
00:10:50
Speaker
How am I going to ride this thing? Based on the design. Yeah. And that's where I think having the two skis able to like both go on their edges and go on the right edge when it's in into when you're turning right, it goes on the right rail of the skis. And when you go left, it goes on the left rail of the skis.
00:11:11
Speaker
It's, I think I'm pushing more and more towards that. I just don't like the snowboard idea. It looks kind of shitty too. Yeah, I can see that. And I'm all about looks and, you know, looking good whilst going down a mountain trying to kill myself. Yeah, I hope you're working on the sport and some spandex. Oh dude, I saw this thing on Instagram. It's like, it's like a backpack.
00:11:40
Speaker
but it's like ah like a balloon backpack. Okay. Yeah. So there's tiny, there's like little slits in the side under your arms right that let air in. And as you're riding along, it blows up this like balloon thing, which reduces error like increases aerodynamics.
00:12:02
Speaker
Right. So you have like this giant hedgehog kind of thing. Yeah. Flailing behind you. Right. It's huge. It's like, it's like like 80 or 90 centimeters long out of your back. Right. Yeah. But apparently it like reduces drag by heaps so you can pedal faster on your bike. And I was thinking, do I do that for the sled?
00:12:28
Speaker
Hedgehog sled. Well, I mean, the thing is, so the whole idea about this project is it's a, as Nima said, it's a Korkatruken special. Korkatruken special. Ooh, that sounds great. Which means it needs to be able to get on the train and go up the mountain they again, right? Yeah, right. So if I have this huge like foam or fiberglass, like aerodynamic package on it,
00:12:57
Speaker
It's got to be ah horrible to get in and out of the train. Yeah, that depends on your design, I guess, though. Well, trust me, with I'll need it to be massive. So so yeah I do
Wheel Adapter Design Process
00:13:12
Speaker
think it's probably ah might be an interesting concept to muck around with, except I already looked at them. I couldn't buy any. They're like they're one of those like um like the kicktar yeah started thing i'm in and you know They've sold all the things and they're not available, basically. I'm imagining there's all these roadie, like road bike people out there just just just creaming themselves, thinking about ah my aerodynamics, oh my cadence score goes up. ah And they can just destroy their friends on their bikes that don't have this. Yeah, but they look like a freaking idiot. Oh, they look like like, I have to say, I watched the video and I was like, you just be embarrassed to wear that thing. yeah You look like a tool.
00:14:00
Speaker
I suppose it's not that different from most people that ride road bikes anyway. yeah I guess. It might be a bit awkward down at the cafe, local cafe that you're, you know, you're sporting whilst sporting that thing. Yeah, but that's a great thing about it. When you're not moving, it just like sags down and you can pack it, it deflates and you can kind of like pack it into into your backpack.
00:14:23
Speaker
Right. So it's kind of like if yeah you kind of just like unzip it as you're riding and then you'd fly past in your spandex shorts and your shaved legs. You're like, look at me go. You know, it's the wind resistance.
00:14:45
Speaker
I swear to god I don't like the way the razor feels on my legs. It's all about wind resistance. I'm sure they say that about shaving their nutsack too.
00:14:57
Speaker
Yeah, you know, well, OK, what else has been you did you? So obviously you haven't decided on this design. Yeah, but people can decide. It feels like we've decided now, though. like Yeah, it's kind of apparently true. Yeah, I feel like I've decided already. Like it needs the skis need a tilt.
00:15:16
Speaker
And we'll just see. We are verbal processes, you and I, I think. Yeah. So we'll just see see what this week brings. Hopefully I'll come up with a design that it will work. One thing I do know is that it can't be too much of a hard turn. like No, obviously it's got to be gentle and enough. It's got to be gentle. So I've got to work out the the mathematics on on that. Yep. What have I been up to otherwise? Oh, I've been working on this stupid thing.
00:15:44
Speaker
This is a wheel adapter for my WRC car. Justin is currently holding up what looks like a lump of plastic. It is. I have 3D printed This is, oh, this is V6 version 6. Ooh, version 6. Which is wrong. Right. I think a V8 will be the the correct one, I think. Well, you know that's where you're wrong, Kieran, because V7 was the correct one. Ooh. Sorry. No one's ever heard of a V7 engine. Come on. You've got a V12. It's nothing to do with engines, Kieran. It's ah it's an a... a wheel adapter, seriously. Yeah, but come on. It sounds faster, though.
00:16:28
Speaker
ah Yeah. OK, so you've made this adapter. So I've been I've been like toying. So every time I make a version of this, I print it and I test it. And every time I go to test, I'm like, oh, why did you change that, you idiot? Oh, you need to go back and redo that.
00:16:48
Speaker
Learning by failure. Yeah. and Then I also came up with an idea because I was, I got to about version, I think it was about three or four. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, how much like the wheels on this world rally car are kind of like just blank.
00:17:05
Speaker
Right. ah The lightweight aluminium wheels, they're going to be great for what I need them to do, except they don't look like the alloy rims of a no world rally car, right? Oh, this is exciting. I don't think I know what's happening here. So what did I do? Inside where the hub kind of locks in to to the adapter, I put a thread in.
00:17:31
Speaker
Yeah. And so the idea is that when we 3D print the hubcap to go on it, the hubcap will have a thread that screws straight into the adapter. Nice. And I've had to think even further and think about, oh, what will happen if I have the right hand thread on the left hand side?
00:17:56
Speaker
Yeah, right. So you got to be, yeah, it's got to go with the rotation of the wheel, otherwise. Correct. Or against the rotation of the wheel,
Balancing Multiple Projects
00:18:04
Speaker
I guess. Yeah. So basically, if the wheel spins forward, it needs to do the the um hubcap up, basically. It needs to hold it on. Yeah. ah So that is basically what I've done. I've made two versions of this, a right-hand threaded one and a left-hand threaded one.
00:18:22
Speaker
ah I got an email from PCBWay who is trying to chase me up because I think they want a video out of this. I'm like a little bit scared about it, actually, because I haven't even looked at the the frame yet.
00:18:37
Speaker
o ah But I would say, though, like I was looking at the frame this weekend. Yeah. um I had a lot of stuff going on this weekend. Kids were handballing and, you know, we had to go into Santa Feud to go to like a ah Christmas a little What do you call it? A fair or something like that? Yeah. All that Christmas stuff is starting now. Yeah. And so quick Kristen's mother was ah like having one there and she had a little stall there. So we we had to go support her. So basically Saturday was a complete ride off. Except for a Saturday evening where I kind of, I i had planned to, that Frederick, my friend Frederick and I were going to come together and start working on the world rally car together.
00:19:30
Speaker
ah But because of all the the crap that happened during the day, we kind of only they had the afternoon, evening to look at it. yeah So we looked at it and we kind of have a rough plan and I think I can start out without him, which is good.
00:19:49
Speaker
ah The only issue we have is just literally starting it and I'm like scared to cause I'm in the middle of this stupid sled project that I still can't make decisions on. So it feels like I've got just undecided projects everywhere and it makes me again feel like a fraud.
Sharing Projects with Friends
00:20:09
Speaker
But then the upside of Frederick coming was, you know,
00:20:14
Speaker
I decided like, oh, well, you know, he'd never driven the hand truck go cut. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I said, Oh, you know, do you want to get it, get it out and take it out on the snow and ice? Yeah. That sounds fun.
00:20:31
Speaker
du it was no No drift sleeves required. No drift sleeves were required. It was so fun. In fact, it was better than having the drift sleeves on. Yeah, because you had a little little bit of grip. A little bit of grip, but it just slid and you you could hold the slide. It was just so, so much fun. I think I saw some dodgy, like, dark, like, footage.
00:20:56
Speaker
look like it was like shot one in 1980s. Yeah, you're not the only person that said 1990s like flip phone or something. ah ah now You know what, that that tall Swedish dickhead sent me a message and he goes, you know, ah just on a side note before you you hammer him, we didn't even have a crack at them last week. I know. Is there a truce? No, no, no. He formed a truce? He lay into us last week. Oh, you know what? i've um you know I've given up on listening to their podcast because I mean, it's not supposed to anyway, right? But yeah, sorry. That Swedish guy that shall remain unnamed. Don't worry. I got something coming.
00:21:44
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ah
00:21:46
Speaker
What did he say? He said, look what is this shot on VHS?
00:21:51
Speaker
ah the truth is my pam x The truth is I filmed ah my friend on the go-kart with his phone and then I got to ask him for it and then I sent him a message. Can you send me this footage?
00:22:07
Speaker
Yeah, and he's in a third he said but and it's my messenger and it was the worst quality ever. pressed i'd say I just thought it was funny to put out. Plus, you know, we're at the local school, like pretty much gone burnouts and drifting around the local school.
00:22:25
Speaker
but Probably best to keep it on the download. Probably best where, you know, faces weren't really recognizable.
00:22:33
Speaker
and yeah But I have to say, like, because I came back after like just driving it around for a little bit. And like, I watched Frederick drive it. And Kristen noted, like, when I came back, she's like, you're smiling. I'm smiling, thinking about it.
00:22:52
Speaker
Dude, it was so much fun. And we didn't even drive for that long, maybe like 20 minutes maybe. Yeah. And, you know, just ripping it around like he, like, and Frederick's pretty good at driving. He's much, I would dare say he's better at driving than I am. What? I know, right? But he like, he, he was in third gear, like revving the tits out of it, you know, and flying around. So I only did it in second. So.
00:23:22
Speaker
But he he ah he had a lot of fun in it and it was really like a massive joy watching him have so much fun with it. And I, you know, it got me thinking about this week, like that's a little bit of like what this is about. And it's very similar to actually your branding message too, right? You make something you're making beer to share with some some with friends and family to like foster connection, right? Yeah, right. And I feel like I didn't really see it this way before, but I kind of did, but I hadn't. That's what I'm doing by creating these things and sharing them with people, is like I'm doing exactly that. I'm building this thing. Five years later. Right?
00:24:14
Speaker
ah And sharing it with the world. Yeah. And I do get to share it with like friends and family that are close here. Yeah. And the joy you get. Like who doesn't want to just go on a Saturday afternoon evening to the local school and just do massive skids? Like it's just so much fun. Yeah. In a homemade go-kart. It's like reliving your childhood. Not only that, it's just it's just fun.
00:24:45
Speaker
It's just fun. Like, we're all too serious these days. That's, that's the problem. I think like, that's the thing. Like, we're all too serious. You're like, I gotta get my YouTube views up and like, I've got to sell more beer. And instead of like, just like, let's have some fun. Just not take life too seriously for a moment. No.
00:25:05
Speaker
It's good, I love it. talking about finally I'm glad you finally got there after five years. I actually put some language to the what you already knew. Yeah, so I was going to say, I kind of already knew it deep down. And you've probably seen it a lot in my ah like in the last probably... At least the last three, four projects. No, I would say from like ah from the jet sled.
00:25:32
Speaker
Yeah, right. When you start to see how other people... Yeah, like using it, right? That was like a big theme and a realization that I had when I was filming that project with a bunch of people supporting me. Like I got to share this crazy thing that I built with them and they all got to experience it. Yeah. And it brought people together.
00:25:55
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Right. And it was the same with the pallet go-kart. It was the same with the hand truck go-kart. It was the same with the minibike. You know, it's been the same. Just building something crazy, a little bit fun and bringing people together to drive it. Hopefully they don't hurt themselves.
00:26:13
Speaker
so Let's get them in signing insurance waiver. I think, honestly, I have to. Because, yeah, like I said, I've mentioned it before, but when Thomas drove the drift shopping cart and crashed, I was like, holy shit. Like, yeah some of this stuff is dangerous. I need to need to be aware of that. So, yeah, um that's including the sled that I'm building. Yeah, right. hey so Cool.
00:26:41
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that's great. And I see that in the results from like the last couple of videos too. It's like, i you know, just to take note, as of now, my video is just under like 93,000 views on the... Ooh, crack 100. Yeah. and So I will, like, I want to make a note of when I crack that 100,000 mark and celebrate it. You know what you can do? You can crack a Nordic triple.
00:27:08
Speaker
That's what you can do. I'm raising my eyebrows. No one heard that. What does an eyebrow raise ah sound like? because Isn't it like the cartoon? Yeah. do four ah yeah So I mean, you could crack a triple.
00:27:28
Speaker
ah That's on its way down from Lufoten now. Awesome. Well, let's hear all about it, Kieran. What's been happening besides beer traveling down Lufoten? Well, yeah, you know what I found out was really crazy. The shipping from Svalvaar, yes, Svalvaar, sorry, in the Lufoten, cheaper per pallet than moving one pallet from Lie to Vespi.
00:27:57
Speaker
ah Really? It's so crazy. It's so crazy. Cheaper. So like any like argument that like why would you brew up north like totally and you know they produce it cheaper too like and if and like they're actually a really cool story. that I was talking to Andreas the guy who basically the dog and lettuce CEO of Liverpool's and he said that I don't remember who he said it was but he said one of the guys said to him, oh, this is the best beer Lufo Pills has ever brewed. And I said, sorry, it's sorry, Andreas. I mean, you know, I'll accept offers if you want. I'll move up there if the money's right. So yeah, so he's um so that's really exciting. ah that So hopefully that will be
00:28:50
Speaker
in the warehouse and then I can go and pick up some, some bottles in the coming days. So that's exciting. Yeah, dude. I'm like, I'm pumped. Cause this is, I've talked about this before. This is a stocking filler for sure. Yeah. This is like, this is a great gift. Like, you know, that uncle or that your dad or whoever, like, and you're just like, Oh, I just didn't really know when to get them. But like, don't want to spend thousand crowns on something like,
00:29:16
Speaker
You know, just a just a nice bottle of beer like a really nice was a nine percenter Gonna put some hair on his chest or their chest. Hopefully not women's chests and then ah did did did tell eyeboies they just were and And yeah, it's um And so it's I think it's going to be a great stocking filler. Actually, hopefully more than a stocking filler. It's more than a stocking filler. So it's it's ah I think it's going to be great. So key post I'll keep you guys posted on updates with that.
00:29:52
Speaker
I brewed the X first XBA this week. lost time yeah On Wednesday I did the first XBA back in the process. I have to say, so nice to get back in the garage. That's guy karen ah so nice to get back in there just fucking do something I actually wanted to do rather than sit on the computer and like, move fla and well you know, like just like doing all like bookkeeping and all ah boring stuff.
Return to Brewing and XPA Insights
00:30:20
Speaker
Like so nice to get back into the into the brew house and just start messing with stuff. And I just even just I wasn't like weird little joys of like just picking like like some malt out of the out of the out of the the mill and then eating it.
00:30:39
Speaker
and just tasting like malt, just crunching it like bread. You know, it's just so nice. There's some weird tactile things with brewing that just ah you only get when you start doing this stuff ah and you start taking it seriously. I think it's really nice. So that was really cool. Got in there and ah but I had like, i you know, I told you last week I got like deer in the headlights with recipe. and So I was just like, well, I'm brewing multiple versions then.
00:31:09
Speaker
So I have like three different versions of the well, actually, I tell I had two. And then I was like, OK, I've got to get this. There's some hops I don't have. So I've got to like order those hops in. And then I went to like my suppliers to look at, you know, what what I needed to get like and what I could get. And no one had like and like every both recipes were missing something. ah They didn't have it available or, you know, at the time and I was like,
00:31:39
Speaker
Mother. ah So I was like, well, one of the recipes has citra, amarello and and centennial hops in it. So I was just like, you know what, I've got this other hop called cryopop, which I've used in the cryo Jesus. And I had a bunch of that leftover.
00:32:01
Speaker
So I was like, you know what, it's, I'm pretty sure it's a blend of like Centennial, Amarillo, Citro and a few other bits and bobs in there as well. So I'm just like bugger it. It's probably close enough. We'll just give that a crack. So I basically made a Citro cryo pop version of the XPA.
00:32:19
Speaker
ah on Wednesday and it's so nice to do like simple ales like oh sorry like no whirlpool additions no fucking around with like technical in and outs it's like hop additions at 60 minutes hop additions at 10 minutes knock out whirlpool like done into the tank add yeast Smells good, tastes good, fucking great. ah So yeah, this one's ah gonna be interesting to see. Though it's it's finished fermenting already, which is really nice. And and ah I've dry hopped it and now it's cold crashing and ready for carbonation. And I think so far it's tasting pretty good. I think it'll clean up a little bit more as it's cold crashing and conditioning.
00:33:12
Speaker
And then um I think the real fascinating thing about it, too, is that I used a yeast strain called USO5, which is an American ale strain, and it's super clean, super clear, fermented low, and it goes crystal clear. Like, I mean, the beer is almost see through now, and it's like just it's barely even I started the cold crash yesterday.
00:33:38
Speaker
And it's just like, so it's so nice to have a fast sediment sediment sedimentation for the yeast. And just the whole process is so much more smooth when when you're using these kinds of products. So and I can appreciate that a lot more than I did before. But but I decided to go like the traditional um Australian easy drinking a lager root and actually add sugar to this one. Okay. And I'm a little worried that it's going to be too dry and it'll kind of, you know,
00:34:14
Speaker
I mean, it could be perfect once it's carbonated. This is the thing you never know. like Once it conditions and you know and you get the final product in the in the glass, its ah it can be terrible. But I've decided that the some of the tests in future will be without sugar as well. Because they have sugar, just for those who don't know, when you add like normal sugar to a beer, it kind of dries out the beer in a way. like It's highly fermentable.
00:34:43
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ah sugar like is, swimmers really, really well, ah because it's a very simple sugar for the yeast to eat. So it gives the effect that the beer is kind of thinner and and lighter and drier.
00:34:57
Speaker
And so that can be really positive for certain styles and or it can be negative depending on the style that you're trying to do. So that'll be really interesting to see how that turns out. And I've pretty much put everyone to sleep with, them with Barutok by now. So, yep. So that's that. and but what ah What is it like? Why is the XBA so exciting for you?
00:35:28
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Well, first of all, it's a style that doesn't exist. I think I explained that last week. It's an style that doesn't exist here in Norway. No one's really no one's doing it. And interestingly enough, like now, um ah like the American breweries are starting to pick it up. And I just saw the other week or earlier last week that there was a collaboration between Boulter, which is the brewery that you and I We had that Bolt XPA at the airport, um which you and I agreed was very smashable yeah and a Bolt XPA and Firestone Walker, which is like one of the biggest fucking craft beer brands out of the US who are now doing, they're not calling it an XPA, they're calling it a modern pale ale, but it's basically taking inspiration out of the same wheelhouse. And so that's like, that shows you where
00:36:23
Speaker
like the craft market's potentially going and that if I'm on ahead of the pace there and and producing an XPA before they do, or anyone else does, that's gonna be really exciting. So I think, ah but the ah the main reason is it's just it's just a super smashable, approachable beer. It's like, it's it's a football IPA. That's the easiest way I could probably explain it. Like, you know, you when you're watching the football, you don't want to drink like these like big heavy hop forward beers in the same like at least not the ones that most people think of when they think of IPAs because like they're just a bit too heavy or too much like intense flavor or, you know, if you want to just sit, have an enjoyable drink whilst you're watching the football,
00:37:19
Speaker
or something like that, like the XPA is like the option for people who actually like their beer to taste like something, not just like a boring old lager. So it's like a, you know, it's like a flavor filled alternative for but people who like to drink a beer whilst watching the football. Yeah, I think that's or sitting in the sun or do like anything, you know. Yeah, it's only like a one um bring these ones at four point seven.
00:37:48
Speaker
So it's an easy, easy, light, approachable beer. Yeah, I really thought that this was a good idea because, you know, there's people that are out there that love IPAs, but there's some days you just can't drink one of them, right? You know, it just feels too much. You can't drink three of them. Yeah. You know, this XPA, you can drink five. Like, it's the kind of beer you could drink all night. Yeah. And I think that's what excites me about it.
00:38:16
Speaker
Which is where the money's at. Just sussling the money symbols. So we'll see, obviously too, like I've got to now figure out like production, who's going to produce this beer once I get it up and running. The way things are going at the moment, it might even be up at Littlefoot. We'll see. Go Littlefoot Pills, they sound like a good budget dude to work with. I mean, so nice, like so nice dealing with nice people.
00:38:44
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So yeah, other than that, it's been, that's been pretty much the garage this last week. ah There's more coming the more. So that there's the two other variations will be brewed in the coming weeks. So there's going to be an XPA with Citra, Amarillo and Centennial. And the other one's going to be, sit I know Citra is like, a but it's kind of a staple hop in these kind of beers ah from what I've read so far. and The other one is going to be Citra and Kashmir.
00:39:14
Speaker
So that's going to be interesting. Cashmere will bring like a really interesting layer to it with like lemongrass and melon and stuff. So I think that that will be a really interesting twist on the on the thing. So I actually have high hopes for the Citra Cashmere blend. Cool. yeah So yeah.
00:39:33
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Well, how's life been with the family and and things, whilst this is all going on? You've got stuff coming down from Little Fulton Pives. You've got potential now for those that Nordic Triple to be available at the Vena Monopoly, right? Yep. For Christmas, there's a lot of stuff going on.
00:39:53
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there's kids as well involved in this, like how's how's that balance working out? You tell me Justin, you see you told me before where before we started this podcast, you're like, have you had a bad day? you Have you had a bad couple of days? And I was like, yeah.
00:40:11
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Yeah. So the the twin vibe, the the quantum entanglement, you were feeling my bad mood, I think for the last couple of days, especially yesterday was super heavy. Yeah, I felt it, dude. I was in no reason was I like, just, yeah, yeah like kids, like, you know, the wife had to work.
00:40:36
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She did like these ones. She does this shift where sometimes she goes from evening shift to day shift. So basically the kids don't see her from like midday on Saturday through till Sunday afternoon.
Balancing Family and Work
00:40:50
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And so I'm just alone with the kids the whole time pretty much. And it was just one of those like, you know, cluster fucks of ah of a weekend with tired kids that wouldn't sleep and all are fun of raising small children. ah And it was heavy. It was really heavy. It was a heavy day. And there's no one's fault. It's just, I think there's, that's just life, unfortunately. Some some days are just like that. And, you know, so kids and, and all that. like To be honest, I'm kind of like, I sat down to stone, do some work this morning in a, did like a couple, an hour or so. And I was like,
00:41:30
Speaker
You know what, I just need to just need to take a break. Just need to take a moment for myself, you know, because I just like I know like I even did some meditation this morning because like and I like I never do that kind of stuff because I was just like, I just need to get some space just, you know. um So, yeah, but the mental reset is kind of important.
00:41:54
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um Yeah, exactly right. I find that is really important when I'm just feeling off. I just make a mental note like you need to reset now. yeah And so it could be as simple as like walking away from the work. Yeah. Go on taking my dog out for a walk or like specifically going in to make a cup of coffee or a cup of tea or something and just like not go in to the workshop or the or the garage with the coffee or tea. like No, just take that moment. Specifically take that moment. Like go outside and sit on the chair on the deck or something and just take that moment to like reset. Yeah. Well, likequi all that's the thing too, is like we're all so, you know,
00:42:43
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caught up in our own mind. Sometimes it it gets very noisy. And I think we sometimes need that reset. m So, you know, that's, that kind of comes a little bit into my mind blown this week. Well, do do tell Karen, what is your mind blown this week? I know, pre contexts, I am not a expert or Anyway, this is my opinion. But I think I figured out Norwegian social anxiety. Oh, yeah, I think I figured it out. So I was watching this. I sent you this video the other day. I don't know if you watched it with this Dr. K, Dr. Anlok Kononora. I think I can't pronounce his name. I don't know. Anyway, I sent you a link on Instagram. You can check that out.
00:43:37
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um And he was, he's like a psychiatrist, actually, by definition. um And he he yeah did this chat on ah on a podcast called the Diary of the CEO, if you've ever heard of it. And yeah, anyway, um he talks about the fact that if you don't use something, you lose it just like, you know, you don't use a language, you lose it, right?
00:44:03
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ah You don't use social ah body language, you lose it. So for a lot of Norwegians, somewhere between three to six months of the year, you spend in isolation because of the weather outside, right? So you actually start to lose your ability to read body language.
00:44:27
Speaker
And so this means that whenever you come into a social situation, you don't know where you stand with people because you're losing that ability to differentiate body language. So it creates anxiety because you don't know where you are with people. And so then you have a, you know, you have generations upon generations upon generations that are doing this.
00:44:53
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And then the advent of technology texting instead of meeting and hearing voices and seeing people and all this stuff that we do now with technology where we're actually physically separated from people and we're not doing everything with body language in the way that we talk. Because what I said, like 90% of communication is nonverbal. Yeah. So it's like, so that when you're not using that skill, it starts to die.
00:45:24
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So that it might explain something. So that's my mind blown. I'm like, wow, it's just that like, Norwegians just sit inside or winter. That's the problem. I mean, I could talk about this in Yankee in my chain, but does yank my chain a bit with regards to how people just only text. Yeah, right. That's like the worst way to communicate ever. Yeah. Like, I mean, it's just like, it's one of those things where you just go Like what do they actually mean? You know, like if we could just hear the tone of their voice, you would know that they were genuine or they know that they were, you know, whatever the feeling actually trying to communicate to you is. Well, they they say something along the lines of when face to face use terabytes of data to assess like body language, eye contact, mouth movement, eye movement, ah you know, and then the verbal words.
Limitations of Text Communication
00:46:23
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coming out. tone and tony yeah And then yeah video calls a less, and then it gets all the way down to text, which is just bytes. Yeah, right. Yeah. which is And so you have no information through a text message. And I've used this example before in previous podcasts on my old podcast. But, you know, like if you were to send a message to somebody and be like, Hey, dude, you want to come around to my place for, you know, a thrash on the go-kart?
00:46:53
Speaker
And the guy replies, yeah, sure, sounds awesome. You read it like that, but then he doesn't show up. yeah right oh If you'd called him and like, hey, dude, you want to come down to my place for like thrash on the ghost cart? And he goes, um yeah, yeah, sure. Sounds awesome.
00:47:16
Speaker
You can already hear in his voice that he is not fully engaged o and probably is not going to come. The same words. Exactly. Just you have more information. And I think that's so important these days with our kids growing up. like It's going to be even harder for them.
00:47:37
Speaker
Well, I think I i i heard the other and I don't know where this information came from, so don't cite me on that. But I heard that like now there's there is like, for example, churches are starting to see an increase in young people right now because they're frustrated with the lack of connectivity, the lack of belonging that you that's just like non-physical. You know, they we all crave that physical belong place of belonging, a physical place to be together.
00:48:07
Speaker
You know, and so, yeah, like it would seem at least from what I heard that there's some an uptick there with with ah organizations like church organizations because they're actually still providing that for people. and So, you know, really fascinating because, you know, like we all it's a it's a human need. And I think the the more we recognize, I think I think naturally we will swing back. I have hope that we will.
00:48:34
Speaker
with the They won't just go to like insanity, like robotic, you know. we bru is We're not far off from that now. Well, I mean, like, AI is, AI is undermining the Internet. Isn't it like we can't trust anything we see or read anymore?
00:48:52
Speaker
No, you can't. I mean, even like, yeah, or yeah even videos, you can't trust them. Exactly, right? Yeah, you have to see face to face like the physical person in front of you, then you can believe. Yeah. So and that's the, you know, that's, I think, where we're hopefully we'll swing back to. So enough of that. um Yeah.
00:49:16
Speaker
You said you yeah that was your yanking chain. Well, my yanking chain. It's not really my yanking chain. What is then? Tell us. Well, I haven't talked about my mind blown. Well, okay, Lin. I'm sorry. Stop skipping over me, bro.
00:49:32
Speaker
I don't mean to feel or hurt your feelings. Please tell me what has blown your mind this week. Rally Japan. Ooh, I didn't expect that. Tell me. dead I know there's not a ah lot of rally fans listening to this podcast, but I love that sport so much. Literally coming into this ah the last rally of the year, which is Rally Japan. Yeah.
00:49:57
Speaker
there was a manufacturer's title to decide and there was a driver's title to decide. right In day one, Hyundai looked like they had just pretty much been to the opportunity to ah have the manufacturer's title and it looked like Toyota's. On day two, it looked like Toyota had been the manufacturer's title and Hyundai was going to take it.
00:50:23
Speaker
on and your seat rally. Yeah. And then day two, the, the guy that was leading the the championship, Terry Novell, he got a puncture and had had problems with his car and he plummeted down the 15th place and that his only one rival was in first position. So he had the chance to win on Sunday morning.
00:50:53
Speaker
The guy in first position, Oitanic, comes around a corner, hits some mud and launches the car and flips it. Crashes out, loses all these points. Terry Neville wins just on the fact that he crashed.
00:51:11
Speaker
wins the world title. And then, but now you have one less Hyundai in the race. for So prior to this on Saturday, Toyota was down and Hyundai was up, right? yeah now and now it's um Now it's like, how do we do this? ah So it came down to the last stage.
00:51:33
Speaker
And there was like a bunch of points in it and Toyota end up tipping the scale and getting another manufacturer's title and Hyundai lost out. But like it is just a mind blowing race. Like something was always happening and it wasn't just in the top levels. It was all the way down. So in world rally two, which is the lower class, there was,
00:51:58
Speaker
Massive things going on there and then in even in the junior classes, massive things happening there. It was just awe inspiring event with so much stuff. It just blew my mind how exciting this last event was.
00:52:12
Speaker
They need like a, you know, like a Netflix style documentary about rally. They really do. I also thought about, you know, they need potentially like a movie like the Formula One movie that's coming out with Brad Pitt. Okay, does that about this yeah there's a new movie coming out soon with Brad Pitt as the driver and so on. And I think you need like outside influence to show like showcase the sport of how exciting it is. yeah The only problem with rally is the fact that it's done over three days yeah and it's really hard to access
00:52:55
Speaker
Yes, and you don't really have a stadium you're watching it all happen at, you know, or a racetrack, I should say. You just stand out in the forest. But that is the best bit. Yeah, and I think that's bad. I like to see some car flying around the fucking corner a nearly clipping your hat off.
00:53:13
Speaker
Oh, like I've watched all those videos from like the 80s, like where people literally just like crowded all over the road and adjust like clearing just out of the way of the car. That's mental. That that that doesn't happen anymore. But like, ah but you know, that probably was like that helped bring rally to like, to the world.
00:53:33
Speaker
like attention really. People see videos like that and they're just like, what the heck is this spot? Well, the the sad thing is most people really don't know who the current drivers are and who's the best. People still talk about Petter Solberg and Colin McRae, and they haven't been in the championship for over 20 years.
00:53:53
Speaker
ah so Exactly, right? You know, so it's a lot of stuff's happened in that time, you know, and i it is a bit disappointing. The sport seems to be on the down, but we'll see what happens with these new regulations coming soon and hopefully it'll be on the up. but Cool. That was my mind blown. Rally Japan. Whoa, what's yanking your chain then? What's truly yanking your chain? Oh my God. Dog owners that compete with their dogs in dog shows. Okay.
00:54:23
Speaker
Tell me. They are the weirdest, stupidest people I've ever met in my whole entire life. No judgment. There was a dog show, right? Okay. in our In our local convention center, which is probably only about like four Ks away from here. Yeah. yeah And so at the local school, the car park was filled up with camper vans.
00:54:52
Speaker
Right. Yeah, with all these people who do their dog show. yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even though, like, because they didn't want to pay for accommodation. yeah and You know, like, there they are, like, the morning before the show, and they've got these little stupid fences around their a little, you know, camper vans.
00:55:11
Speaker
Yeah, stop the dog running away. Yeah. And then they got this dog up on it on the table, like zhuzhing its hair and stuff like that. <unk>m Like, I'm sorry. Like, what? How is this a thing? Your your dog is born the way it's born. It's like a frickin' kid's, like, duty pageant. Justin, an ATV should have wheels, not skis.
00:55:40
Speaker
That's something, mean everyone's got their own thing, Jess. Yeah, but I mean, you're not giving me, you're really not giving me enough to justify the anger here. What else has happened?
00:55:54
Speaker
I didn't like the look of them, OK, Karen? I just didn't like the look of them. You just judged them. I judged them harshly by the looks only. ah No, you know who else has that kind of issue? Us.
00:56:08
Speaker
in Norway, you big jerk face. People are like, ah, look at your dark beard, you terrorist. Oh, I am a terrorist. Terrorized ladies. All right.
00:56:25
Speaker
that's chris Chris and I love you. I'm sorry. I don't terrorize ladies. Well, I tell you what's yanking my chain this week. Please do tell businesses that actually don't want to do business.
00:56:39
Speaker
I know, it's insanity, right? So you and I, we've been talking about this chili beer in mind, the Holy Ghost, yeah. And I, you gave me a contact for this place near you that makes these, you know, does, can potentially make this extract for me. But there's a very specific extract that I want to use for this product. And I called them up and there was a lot of minging and aring on the telephone about, you know, what I wanted to do.
00:57:09
Speaker
And he said, he reluctantly said, send me the details on the email. So I did that. And he sent me a reply saying, thanks for the email. um There's a lot more questions to ask. I will, you know, let's let's talk.
00:57:30
Speaker
ah some more when i get when I get some more answers. And it's been two weeks now. I've followed up, tried to follow up. you know like you know For all they know, like i so I've said to them, like this is just a starting project. ah It may become a thing in the future. um So I just want to know if it's possible and what it's going to cost.
00:57:53
Speaker
Right? But it's just like, unless they get an order for like 100,000 litres of this extract or something, that doesn't seem that they're interested. Now, I might add that like, this is not exactly like a high volume kind of place. Like it's not a, it's not like a big industrial that fabric, like m big industrial factory making this stuff. It's just like literally an industrial kitchen.
00:58:22
Speaker
And so I'm just like, how much? I think you just need to go down there, kids. Just knock on the door. Oh, it just, it just does me, does my head in, right? I'm like, listen, listen, I'm trying to give you money. What? Like, if you don't want to do the job, say you don't want to do the job. That's fine. You know? But don't say like, you think you want me, like, ah yeah, we want to do the job, but we're not sure, but we'll get back to you. I'm like,
00:58:48
Speaker
You know, if I think it's the issue where you have companies, we have people, employees that work for you rather than, you know, and don't actually give a shit. ah They just want to pay check those. That's the difference. You know, like God forbid that the day I ah tip phone on silent Ruined my rant. Ruined my rant. Anyway, yeah that was yank in my chain and I'm just frustrated because, you know, like just don't get back to me about this stuff. ah Anyway, recommendation for this week. Just, we got one. Yeah. I think you should all go and check out Crazy Travels with Fred's Kronk. Okay.
00:59:41
Speaker
he's His videos are so enthralling, so good. They're much better than this other Swedish guy we know makes YouTube videos. yeah And this guy is so enjoyable to watch. he's got to looking into Oh, way better looking than this other guy. yeah he's got like He's got the perfect glasses that are so thick, yeah his eyes are just massive. And he's got the most amazing ah video.
01:00:17
Speaker
And it's it's in Swedish, so it's not in English, but translated the title is Frederick Travels to the North of Sweden on a Public Bus. And you need to go see it. It's the best video ever. I mean, seriously, it's so much better than the other Swedish guys' videos. I mean, what is he making furniture whilst he's traveling? What is he doing? like how does he beat howd he How does he beat the other for Swedish guy? He's so much better than... He's just better as a person. He's better than Pierre. Like, way better he better. Better as an individual. He's a better representation of the Swedish nation. Yeah, he is. Yeah, 100%. He's basically... He's like the the Brad Pitt of Sweden, I would say. Oh, really? Traveling traveling on public buses. Yeah. And... Thick glasses.
01:01:11
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And you know, his videos are enthralling. You you he basically, so it starts off and he's like, I've got to take a bus to the north of Sweden. Here I am in the south of Sweden. It's just amazing content and just so much better. You're selling it to me. i've Just so much better than Pierre's videos. So much better. Oh, I see what's happening here.
01:01:39
Speaker
It took me a while. The fanny dropped. Lastly, what's happening here? So I highly recommend Crazy Travels with Fred's Kronk. Awesome. One might even say that they those videos are better than another Steve Bell's videos as well. oh yeah Especially the workshop tour. I know. I've still haven't seen that one, have we? Steve well Bell. Clearly, anything is better than Steve Bell's workshop tour video because it's not been released yet. Well, the worst thing is Steve didn't even want to show us his old workshop. He's decided he's going to like do it up and make it completely new. Yeah, but that's cheating. I know, right?
01:02:29
Speaker
ah Cursing ass of criminals, you dirty Englishman. You Northerner. On a serious note, ah I do have one recommendation. Okay. ah And that is Silo. Okay. I've seen this on, is it on Apple Plus? it's ah Yeah, it's on Apple TV. Yeah, yeah. Dude, so good.
01:02:55
Speaker
it says Season two started and I was like, oh my God, what is going to happen here? There's so many unanswered questions. right The writing and storytelling is fantastic. And you have so many questions even into like season two, you still actually don't know what the hell is going on. And I love that storytelling. I just think it's so like well done.
01:03:17
Speaker
Yeah, it's kind of, but you know, like there's, there's not all this weird shit happening, like in what lost, right? Yeah. Like random but i like for a solar bears and stuff. but Yeah. hell that's gone on that Yeah. And everyone was like pegging it from like three seasons out. Like they're already dead. They're all dead. This is like some weird purgatory thing.
01:03:39
Speaker
and Yeah, okay. Well, it's silo. Okay, I'll check it out. I haven't actually like probably need to have something to zone out to lately. But yeah, I've been watching the Tulsa King. Have you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kristin won't allow me to watch that because she thinks that Sylvester Stallone looks hideous. he I mean, he's past his prime, that's for sure. Yeah. He's got like his Botox in his face and he's got like this chin remodel or something. I don't know what he's done.
01:04:10
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. you Well, anyway, you can't be Rambo forever. ah So what's your recommendation? ki Actually, ah mine on a serious note, mine's um this Dr. K, Dr. Unlok Kononjora. I think I'll fuck up his name. I clearly have already. It sounds really bad. Dr. K, if you look up Dr. K on on the Diary of a CEO,
01:04:39
Speaker
ah podcast, you'll you'll find some videos. He's got two videos on there and podcast episodes, obviously. So if you don't want to watch the video, you don't have to. Really thought provoking stuff, actually, on us, psychology, ah society, the way we are, the way we function. um Yeah, it's ah really, really interesting videos. If you at all are curious about how your own thoughts and your own mind, work, ah check it out. I think there's some really good stuff about current stuff about ah technology, about gaming, even like he comes from a game. He was a gaming addict, actually. um And, you know, all sorts of things there. So, I mean, really fascinating. if And like the podcast episodes are long, like three hours or something. So,
01:05:33
Speaker
you know, lock in for the, for the long haul and get a nice cup of coffee and a comfy chair and just yeah get into it. I wanted to say too, that we had a conversation with our kids last night about gaming and YouTube and stuff like that. So, i so basically I have a lot of parental controls, especially on Henry's phone, who's nine. And, you know, I thought I had everything locked down. And then I,
01:06:01
Speaker
I saw him on his phone a lot and I was like, what's he doing? And then I went over to him and he's like, he just immediately hit his phone. I was like, ah, something's up. yeah And then I and asked him like, in a calm, like not ah aggressive way, like, what are you doing? And he's like, oh I'm watching YouTube.
01:06:18
Speaker
And it's like, I was thinking, ah but I blocked YouTube. Like he only has 15 minutes. He's been on this thing for a long time. So I went in to the, I didn't really blast him or anything. I just said, okay. And so I went in on the parental control app and he'd found a loophole. So I had, I thought he was using Google Chrome to, to watch stuff, but there's a, Samsung has a web browser as well.
01:06:43
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And I forgot to look at that as well. So he had watched four hours.
01:06:53
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And that just shows you how messed up that is, right? This kid has zero like impulse control, right? He just does what he, you know? Well, let's face it, not a lot of kids have impulse control. So it's not like he's a special case. No, but that's my point.
01:07:11
Speaker
the YouTube shorts is like designed to keep you on, right? And unfortunately, yeah, a hundred percent. So we just let our kids and we think it's all good, but it's not. I mean, I literally this week saw one of Henry's friends I was upstairs and I looked down and he was watching something on his phone, which was a YouTube short. e And it was live, like not live, but like a scene where like soldiers were going around in Ukraine shooting people. Right. Yeah. The kid's nine. He's seeing this stuff like does he doesn't need to see this. No. But the YouTube algorithm gives it to him. e So I think going back on a little bit of
01:08:00
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Like we had this conversation where we were talking about like, this is how this system works for you guys and you need to understand it. And then same with like roadblocks, right? We talked about roadblocks and the dangers of roadblocks with pedophiles and things basically rife through roadblocks. Yeah, it's crazy. The neighbors like, I won't say which ones for the their sake, but there's,
01:08:26
Speaker
some neighbors nearby and they've had big issues. Police have been involved like so much fucking scary shit happening on that platform. And we've just majority of people let their kids free rein on that stuff. And they just they do not know what the hell is going on on that child's phone.
01:08:48
Speaker
So I think there's going to be a resurgence. I think kids eventually are going to start waking up. the And I think there's going to be like this resurgence now of like people going, you know what, ah you know, I don't need to have anxiety in my life. I don't need to be socially awkward. I don't need to be like, I need to reconnect and let go of this technology and start doing this thing face to face.
01:09:15
Speaker
I hope at least anyway. Let's hope so. But it will take it's hard because it's ah obviously a a addictive thing for kids in the beginning because say it's an instant gratification. And, you know, that's going to take some time, I think, to um undo. I don't think it takes education to like, obviously, you've got to like, I mean, what did you talk to your kids about the fact that they're basically being manipulated?
01:09:42
Speaker
Yeah. And then, you know, I said, like, I said, how many, we asked Henry, like, how many hours do you think you used on your phone this weekend? you And he like guests. What did he guess? I think he said, uh, seven, eight hours or something. He liked for the whole weekend and admittedly wasn't much higher. That was still, it was about 10 and a half hours. He used so that's a lot of your day.
01:10:08
Speaker
But that's a lot of his day, right? That was, yeah, a hundred percent. And that's because certain things were going on. Like we had handball matches and things like this and there was, a you know, so we did talk about that with regards to his, you know, the, the device.
01:10:26
Speaker
stealing your time because it knows how to basically reward you. And we talked about Roblox and Henry instantly wanted to delete it off his Xbox just because of that. So he did that. So it kind of works. And the other side of things is when we talked about how many how much time do you think you used on it?
01:10:51
Speaker
Even when before we told him how many hours he'd actually used on him, we asked him, do you think that's a good use of your time? And he said no. So he knows already this's a it's not a good use of your time to sit on a device.
01:11:08
Speaker
But he wasn't aware actually how many hours he was clocking on it because of the reward system of the algorithm, right? you Especially in shorts and Instagram reels and TikToks. that that It's all the same. So.
01:11:25
Speaker
ah Yeah, that's another podcast to talk about that serious note Yes on a less serious note ah don't watch or don't listen to the three northern makers podcast and go watch Crazy travels with Fred's crook. I Will definitely do that. I will not be watching anything from those to Northern Makers.
01:11:57
Speaker
ah Thank you so much for listening guys. We will see you next week.