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Week 25 - The big Dream
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This week Kieran shares his full vision for Eucharist Brewing. Justin on the other hand did nothing this week in his garage.
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Introduction to Garage Avenger Podcast
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Speaker
This is the Garage Avenger podcast.
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Hello and welcome to the Garage Avenger podcast. I'm Justin, trying to share the joy of building my death machines in my garage in a hope of one day making a living out of it. And I'm Kieran, trying to turn my carriage brewed beers into world renowned brewery.
00:00:30
Speaker
We are twin brothers with a passion of creating the wild and unexpected, taking your ride through an everyday life in our garages. Welcome. Welcome.
Addressing Rival Podcasts and Critiques
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ah Let's ah address the elephant in the room here, Karen. That was my elephant impression.
00:00:51
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Okay, what's the elephant in the room? Just so tell me. There's another podcast, which we won't mention, that talks about us a lot. Do they? How old? that I mean... Like nearly every episode. Really? And I think, unfortunately, because of that, we end up talking about these clowns too. oh yeah But he had a bit of a point. This guy, Steve. Steve? Yeah. Yeah. Well, that don't just not know.
00:01:21
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He did bring up a point about that you kind of run a brewery and we don't really drink beer on this podcast. I have been thinking about this. Problem is, it's like it's what was the time now, 8.59 AM. m
00:01:38
Speaker
Let's go. ah Let's go, Karen. I'm not going to give this to Steve. He wants payment for this type of Cross promotion or whatever. I don't care what he says. What are you drinking,
Brewing Science and Challenges
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Justin? I'm drinking one of your beers, Kerry. Actually, the ones I gave you the other day. Yeah. Have you tried it yet? Or is this the first? I have tried it already. But I figured I just mis-poured this greatly. Okay. Well, you know, I'm looking at this for the listeners at home. I'm looking at this glass with a lot of foam on the top head, we call it in Australia.
00:02:16
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And um it's kind of it's fucking glorious, because like, ah hazy IPA generally struggles with ah good head retention. And I'm really fucking happy with how the head retention on that beer worked out. So just taste actually ah the head of the foam tastes pretty good, actually very fruity. Yeah, well, I mean, it's a base beer that gives it that and that's the thing with the head it ah of a beer. It's why it's so important for a beer generally, because it it kind of air ray or air ray like it aerosols. What do you say? It's basically lifting all the aroma out of the actual liquid itself. So which in enhances your flavor perception. And so I mean, we I think, you know, when you have a flu or something, and you can't smell, all food tastes bland, pretty much. Yeah, yeah like that's how important smell is to be
00:03:12
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So if you don't have good head retention on your beard, like lifts all the aroma out of the beer, that's where you really struggle to impress people with your beer. So. Yeah. Because to be honest, this smells great. Um, it is nine o'clock in the morning. i And it's an 8% beer. So let's go. Maybe closer to 8.5 actually.
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ah
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Oh man. You're going to have a fun day today, Joss. Yeah. Actually, you said it was super sweet. I kind of agree it is sweet. Yeah. But it does have a thick mouth feel. Yeah. I was going for that. Yeah. So you pulled that off really well. Yes, it's sweet. But I think when you have that full mouth feel in your mouth, you kind of expect it to be sweet.
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Yeah, weird weirdly, I had a glass. I had a can of it the other day and it kind of mellowed out a bit and I'm actually almost OK with it. Yeah, I don't think it's a bad beer. I don't think it's a great beer, but I don't think it's bad. I think I would make some small changes to it, like pull back the sweetness, maybe 10 percent and then and then lower the pH a bit to give it a little bit more acidity, juiciness and then bang.
00:04:41
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So 4.9 is a post-boil pH, and then juice that mother bug. Mm-mm. Because this could be and this could end up badly, because I haven't eaten this
Homebrewing Tips and Carbonation Issues
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morning, so. Stephen, straight from like empty stomach. I didn't crumble under peer pressure at all from Steve. I'm enjoying the lacing on the glass, seeing how that's like.
00:05:11
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Yeah, it looks good. I feel like I should go and get a beer myself, but... You should. Leave right this moment, and I will also start talking about something else whilst you grab a beer. You talk shit about me whilst I'm away. Exactly. I gotta go out to the garage. Alright, that gives us plenty of time to talk shit about you. Alright, I'm gonna go. Alright, I'll be back. Run, run!
00:05:39
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All right, he's back, but we didn't end up talking shit about him. I was so disappointed. I just sat in silence. I was looking forward to like coming back and listening to the podcast like the day after and just be like, motherfucker. Do you listen to your own podcast, Karen?
00:06:00
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Yeah. well I have to because I edit it so pleasure to make sure you don't like edit some shit like, you know, like Simpson style where you're like, where I'm like, sweet, sweet, sweet can.
00:06:19
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Yeah. Okay, so what what are you drinking? I've got I've got XPA version one. I went a bit lighter because I do have to drive a bit later today. So I didn't want to write myself off. I do have to drive too. But am I being able to work its way out of my body before I have to drive? here How are you feeling
YouTube Ventures and Brewing Mistakes
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about this XPA idea? To be honest, I struggle a lot about it. Yeah, I struggled a lot with it, to be honest. I mean, it looks good.
00:06:50
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dirty glass, but it looks good. It looks beautiful, actually. Crystal clear, good head. Well, not quite crystal clear, but pretty crystal clear. Well, i like for this camera, yes. I mean, I think I think I could I could tweak it a lot more to get it into something really special. But in terms of ease and drinkability, it's like goes down like a tree.
00:07:20
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I think that's a lot of it. You know, and I think a lot of people don't sometimes just don't want an overcomplicated beer, you know? Yeah. Smash one. That's true. But I was thinking about this the other day. I'm like, I had an ash-eye the other day. And, uh, and you know, it's just like this simple multi-year mic.
00:07:44
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You know what, craft breweries just don't do this. and Maybe they think like, oh, well, our industry breweries have done all this kind of stuff. But like, there's something nice about just a simple malt forward lager. So, and I'm tested one some time a ago, if you remember. And it's like, problem is, is this just generally volume? Is it, is it something that's really going to sell? Is someone going to go out of their way and pay a premium price for the same thing they can buy, you know,
00:08:15
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like a Peroni or something cheap in comparison, you know, and get the similar results. That's the challenge. And it's all about branding, dude. yeah I mean, people have to believe in what you're producing and and what you stand for, right? You know what I'd call it? I'd call it the first miracle. Okay. Yeah. Cause Jesus first miracle was turning water into wine. Yeah. And this is turning barley into beer. Yeah, I get it. Yeah. So there you go.
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We're talking about beer production, Kieran. Yeah. ah On that other shitty podcast we've mentioned earlier, yeah it also talked about a problem with beer carbonation. Okay. ah So I thought this was an interesting take, because we don't really talk about problems with brewing, right? With you. We talk about a lot of stuff that you're doing. There were some issues on the list here from this week, actually.
00:09:14
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ah Well, maybe you can help the old Pierre. He's made a lager. I could get this wrong. But from what I remember in the podcast, he took a bottle of the beer yeah up to the house and had it in the house for like three days. yeah He stored them in a cold dark place, which is in the basement of his house, right? Right.
00:09:41
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He took it up like up to the main house because he has two houses. Yeah. Because he's a rich bastard. yeah yeah ah And it was great, apparently.
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You know, he opened the lid, it popped, you know, carbonate, good but carbonation, tasted good, blah, blah, blah.
Global Expansion of Beer Brand
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Then he went to open another one, but this one he took directly from the basement yeah and it just went, nothing. Flat, no good. Yeah, well, it's it's sitting down in a cold basement.
00:10:14
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That's why. i said So is it the temperature that causes the... Yeah, well, because you what you go to what they call rear secondary fermentation. So often what happens with homebrew, you brew the beer, it ferments out, finished into the bucket, and then you add sugar or use sugar drops or whatever into your bottle, ah fill it up with beer and then cap it. And that sugar needs to reef, like to ferment to create the carbonation in the beer.
00:10:42
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so the to It's required, it's just like fermentation, regular fermentation. If you sit it in a cold cellar where it's like five degrees, it's not gonna re-ferment. Yeast is gonna fall asleep but and settle to the bottom of the bottle. But if you take it up to a warm room, typically like 20 degrees or something like that, room temperature, ah two weeks actually is ideal ah for re-fermentation. So you need to get them to room temperature for two weeks.
00:11:11
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And then, then put them in the cold cellar. So we did it the wrong way around. Yeah. Interesting. So I think this is good tips for people who want to do home brewing stuff, right? You know, maybe they misunderstood the instructions or whatever. And, you know, they can potentially come with problems. Yeah. to you And you'll be able to help them maybe. Well, i saying if anyone wants has a question like you shoot me a mess DM at Eucharist Brewing and I'll be happy to answer.
00:11:41
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Yeah, plus, I mean, we could talk about it on the podcast, too. right So, you know, Joe blogs contacted me about this problem. And it seems like this was the problem. Yeah, of course. And, you know, he came back to me and he said, Oh, it works now. Thank you. you know So and I can help other people who are also potentially interested in you know, brewing things themselves, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. I was also talking to Pierre this week about... ah For someone that you don't like, apparently, you talk a lot to this guy. Well, hold on, I haven't spoken in him for like a month. Oh, really? Yeah, I was on the phone with him just the other day. Or yesterday, I think it was, actually. But he mentioned, he's like, why isn't Kieran doing a YouTube channel? Yeah, good question.
00:12:36
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I don't have enough time in the day to edit videos on top of everything else I'm doing.
00:12:43
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Fair enough. I mean, I know it takes a lot of work, but I think it's a good branding opportunity. I mean, there's there's plenty of people brewing beer on YouTube. Don't get me wrong. But how do you build a brand outside of Norway?
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produce videos and create content around what you're doing, how you're developing products, ah you know where you get your stuff from, problems you're encountering, um common problems that most brewers have, and know uncommon problems that most brewers have. I have my have a lot of uncommon problems, I think.
00:13:25
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Like, and there's on my list a toxic sour gas. um Yeah,
Basil Beer Experiment Gone Wrong
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right. ah So just a heads up for people out there. Before you have a smart idea, generally um research is a good good thing to follow up with. Sometimes it's easy to forget that basically brewing is chemistry.
00:13:51
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um And it's just like, you add a little bit of this, a little bit of this, a little bit of this, and then eventually, you know, sometimes it could just blow up in your face. Yeah, like a young Einstein. Yeah, right. Creative splitting the atom to get bubbles in the pit. And yeah, so well, I mean, I found out the hard way this week, I decided to add some basil into my into my yeah sour beer. I just want to say basil. So problem was, as I had this smart idea, I thought, you know what, fuck it. I'm going to be, um, this is, you know, fresh basil leaves. I want to, I don't want to pasteurize it by raising the temperature. And I didn't have enough alcohol on hand. I didn't want to booze it up by putting it in, like sterilizing the leaves in alcohol and
00:14:50
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And I was like, you know what, fuck, I'm just gonna I'm going to throw some like it's called Campton. It's ah basically a um like a chemical sterilizer. So it'll kill any wild yeast and and actually liberates oxygen. So you actually have less less oxygen in your product, which is quite good. Except for when yeah the pH is classified as acidic.
00:15:19
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And then it liberates toxic gas.
00:15:24
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I think ah will holdgen hydrogen high not know something hydrogen sulfide, I think it it, ah, hydrogen sulfide. Yeah. That's a rotten egg gas. Yeah. But also there were some other funky things going on there. So it kind of smells half like a fucking shitty fart and mixed with something else.
00:15:48
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And I thought, you know what? Oh, maybe, maybe, like, ah maybe it like little gas will liberate itself and it will stop smelling. and So I left it for a little while just to like get the gas out and then I thought, fuck it, I'm just going to fucking put it in and see what happens. And of course, um at this point, tastes like Tastes like shit. ah It smells so bad. Just like fucked up so bad. I'm like, why didn't I read the instructions? Men don't read instructions, Kieran. Yeah, yeah. Like I was in the smallest print, like, it said something like, ah when added to as acidic compounds releases, so releases toxic gas. It's like, you could have been in like Font 2.
00:16:37
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on the packet. I was just like, Oh, Jesus Christ. So anyway, lessons learned there. and but So I don't know. I
Dealing with a Bad Batch
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don't know what to do. Like, I mean, this, these compounds will eventually dissipate.
00:16:53
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But hydrogen sulfide did did when I was working on a submarine. Yeah. hydrogen hydrogen sulfide was like a deadly toxic gas. We used to train for this all the time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not gonna give the amounts coming off your beer glass ain't gonna kill you. But it's not gonna be good for you either smell and rotten egg gas. Well, I mean, my point is, is that it it it is it eventually is dissipates.
00:17:23
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and is released or like ah basically, or reintegrates with like, um, molecularly changes into something else and it's safe to drink. So that takes time. And I'm just, I'm in a debate, like, do I, I can sit there and wait three months for this to dissipate and not off chance that this beer is good, or do I just turf it and start again? Cause fuck it was a lot of work to make that beer. And, uh, it seems like a real waste if I have to turf it.
00:17:51
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But at the same time, it's it's chewing up space in the brewery, like it's in using a tank that I could be using for other things or testing other things. So, you know, that's the other side of it. Yeah, because you and I talked about Holy Ghost, right? And ah the brewery that you're brewing it through has to do it a different way to the way you would brew it. Yeah.
00:18:15
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ah So I suggested to you this week about doing like a test batch the way they're going to do it to make sure it's right. Yeah. So I guess like if you've got a tank full of rotten egg gas smelling beer. Well, I mean, that being said, I've got two other tanks. So that's that's okay. I can I can brew it in one of the other tanks. So the main issue with the with the ah with the Holy Ghost way, the the method in which this commercial production will happen is is that the the and ex the chili extract that is being made will be added, in this case, ah to the fermenter and like post like with the dry hop. And that should be okay. However,
00:19:08
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you have to know the exact amount that's in the tank. Otherwise, like, you know, a couple mil, like, you know, 100 mils, 200 mils, too much of this chili extract and it's undrinkable. and So that's going to be the real test for this one. um Otherwise, I'm going to, it's going to be really, really challenging.
00:19:31
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So I've got to, when that goes into production, I'm going to have to follow up with the brewer really strictly on how much is in the tank and therefore how much to add. So it's going to be a challenge, that's for sure. But wellll ah and I'm confident we'll figure it out. So.
00:19:51
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That's good. I'm a little worried because this is like, from my, in my opinion, this is your most banger beer. Like this is the beer that will launch Eucharist brewing into the stratosphere. you know You know, I think, to be honest, I think it's a, it's a winner. But if it's not made right in the first batch, that sucks. Yeah. And that's so hard too, because it like, this is the other thing that's like giving me the shits about the industry right now, as I said, that, you know, the opportunities to produce beer commercially are fairly slim. i It seems like for an industry that's struggling super hard at the moment worldwide, but also very much in Norway, and it seems really strange that they're like, I've i've approached every brewery
00:20:45
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in a 200 kilometer radius of where I live. And everyone's like, no, we don't have any capacity. I'm like, are you doing that well? You don't want for fucking free money? but Like it's just, you don't have to sell the beer. I come in, take it off your hands and pay you the invoice. Like you set the price, I'll pay it. You know, job done.
00:21:13
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But it's just really fascinating that there's that kind of, I can understand from some perspective on the the competition side of creating competition for your brand. ah But you know what, if you're not doing that good, the numbers are going back down and you're not and you're struggling to pay your bills, what good is an extra competition going to be when you're not around?
00:21:40
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So, yeah, I mean, one one could argue differently, but, you know, I definitely think Luftwyds sounds like like the right place to go. Well, I mean, they're good at certain things. Right. So, yeah, you kind of brew everything up there, right? No, I mean, if if I could, I would. Only other issue, too, is that 2000 litres is still a lot of beer for me at this stage, and that's their minimum batch size.
00:22:10
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Let's talk about that amount, right? So your triple now has been out for how many months? Probably three months? Two months. Yeah, two and a half months. but Yeah.
Vision for Eucharist Brewing
00:22:21
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Yeah. Yeah. Launched, ah just we launched at the beginning of December. Yeah. Hmm.
00:22:26
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Yeah. Okay. So it's, yeah, two and a half months. Pretty, pretty new on the market really still. Yeah. Yeah. I could say. And what are we looking at? How, what percentage of like the beer that you've produced is now sold? Um, 30%. Yeah. So there's still a lot of bottles still yeah available. Yeah. now So, um, there's still a lot of bottles available.
00:22:54
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a lot of stock out there. It goes to the, what they call, um, uh, Bistilling Zutvog in the pool next month. So I'm really hoping that that will kind of change the game a little bit and some volume will go there. What does that mean? Actually, Karen, uh, Bistilling Zutvog is ah like a category, you know, the wine monopoly in Norway, uh, has a certain um different categories in which their products are sold.
00:23:21
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And it means that it can be bought, you can buy an individual bottle from the website and have it delivered to your house if you want. Yeah. Okay. Uh, that actually would really be shitty for me because I have to pay for and like every bottle and every, like it's, it's really shitty because I have to pay for the, the frat and everything myself and the, and the,
00:23:46
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to pick cost and everything. So ah it's it's not an ideal way to sell volume, but at the same time, it's better than it sitting there doing nothing. um Yeah, 100%. Have you thought about expanding into other markets now? Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff lying around. Well, I've got the reality is is that the cosmic crisis sold out.
00:24:12
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And I've got a new batch of that coming in three or four weeks. Okay. And, and then I've still got some cryo Jesus and then Holy Ghost in the mix. What I'm really hoping is, is that then if I have those three beers plus the triple, like then I can start sending out like beers to potential ah importers in other countries to promote the product. Because then you get a full range. that People get to see what I'm actually doing and and creating and therefore get a feeling for what the the brewery is. If I just send one or two cans, it's kind of a bit of a like, ah who is this non-serious operation? So I'm looking forward to seeing if I can get like a ah more solid range and then just that I can, especially with Holy Ghost, if we nail that,
00:25:05
Speaker
And that's going to be a real game changer. And then next to it, you've got a fucking smashing as shop strength IPA and then a double IPA like cryo Jesus. I think that will start to make an appeal for export. And I think too, like there's certain, like there's a, there's a YouTuber called the real al craft guy guide.
00:25:30
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And he's based out of Wales and he does a lot of beer, but he also does a lot of chilly stuff. So I'm like, he's definitely getting a can or a couple cans sent to him. I think he would go nuts for this and people would love to watch it. So and that's really good exposure. So I'm hoping that things like that will start to move and the product will eventually start to start to sell in massive volumes. And I have problems keeping up with it.
00:25:57
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, the other side of things is I'm sure there are YouTubers, for example, in Germany that are like big beer people that you could send the product to. Yeah, I mean, I saw some the other day, there was a guy from the Netherlands who started following my Instagram and liked a bunch of pictures. And like this guy's got like three hundred thousand followers in the Netherlands. I'm like, OK.
00:26:26
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He's on the list. Send send him some beers as soon as I got the right ones. Yeah. Yeah. So there's like, there's those kinds of things, promotion. I think there'll be a lot of focus in the, in basically from March, April onwards is is pushing ah for export. Cause that's where, if I don't move volume overseas, the Norwegian market's too small. So.
00:26:51
Speaker
I totally agree. like and And you're struck as soon as you produce anything over 4.7%. You know, you're wrapped over the knuckles by the wine monopoly, right? Well, I mean, in the sense that it limits your sales channel. Yeah, it limits your exposure. The advertising too is very difficult. Yeah. to deal with The biggest challenge with the with the is the 4.7.
00:27:19
Speaker
The taxes are still so high that like, so Cosmic Christ, I could basically don't make any money on that at all. And it sounds like my YouTube channel. Yeah. So there's there's like, there's a lot of um there's a lot of things going on, you know, and and it's it's a it's a difficult thing to navigate, I'll be honest. um And it's a challenge doing it alone, too.
00:27:47
Speaker
um But there's there's um there's a lot of opportunity. It's just that I have to work a bit hard to to get in get it think beer in front of the right people. And then hopefully it'll take off by itself. Yeah, I think that's ah that's a key, right? it's not what you know to, you know, and putting your beer in front of the right people, you know, then people start sharing and start talking and then just exponentially grows. So what, what else has been happening this week, Kieran? Like what, what have been the challenges and has there been any successful wins? Well, I got the labels for Holy Ghost. You saw them. And if you've been following me on Instagram, you might've seen the story.
00:28:34
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i I haven't posted anything like any pictures or video just yet. um But what do you reckon? How does the label look, Justin? It looks so different from everything else. Like, not everything else that you've done, but everything else that will be on the
Designing the Holy Ghost Beer Label
00:28:52
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shelf. Because no other label that I know of is gonna, when you walk past it, go but bling bling bling bling bling. Yeah, I think that's i think that's so yeah it pretty much does that. Because it it catches the light on no matter what angle you're on.
00:29:12
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And then the skull just stands out. Yeah. So those are by those of you don't know, it's basically got a flaming skull, a little bit like I actually did when I designed the label, I didn't really think too much about it, but it's pretty much like Ghost Rider. Yeah. Which kind of like is kind of fun because there's a double meaning because it's called Holy Ghost. And so people can go like, oh, it's like like Ghost Rider, but like, yeah. So there's a kind of a, there's a play there. So it's, you know, but the flames around the skull are all done in a metallic ah color so that when you see the label, everything looks fine and you pass that, you know, when the light hits it a certain way, the flames start to glimmer on, on the round the skull. So it's a, it's pretty,
00:30:03
Speaker
It's pretty awesome. I'm pretty happy with how it looks, to be honest. um And I think the label itself will sell the product. Yeah, I think so too. I think it's great. And I can't wait. I honestly really hope that the brewing brew different brewing process you know will work out great and the product will be great. um Because Like I've said many times before on this podcast, it's the most universal agreed to everybody who's tried it, including my children. Yeah. That it's actually kind of, it's tasty. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that universal appeal
00:30:48
Speaker
You know, maybe people won't try it or want to try it because they're not chilly fans. But then when they hear someone else say like, this is really good and it's not spicy at all, it's just perfectly balanced. Then people will be like, OK, I'll try it. And then they realize how good it is and how How it just that mouth feel of like warmth. Yeah. Drinking a cold beer is so nice. So different. So i'm I'm looking forward to seeing like I've tasted other chili beers. There was a local brewery here called Aike that did like they call this ah Midsummer, I think it was called. And it was like a Habanero. a Like these summer like it's ah a chili sauce called Midsummer.
00:31:33
Speaker
a in it. And like, but to be honest, that was just painful. It wasn't enjoyable to drink at all. And it was just like, it was just a, I think they just use the size on or like a a blonde base or something. So this is quite different. This has got like, Holy Ghost has is like a hoppy West Coast IPA. So if you don't know what a West Coast IPA is, it's that bitter style IPA, which in some sense, people like why did you choose use a bitter style And I think, I don't know, what for some reason it's just, it's just always worked. I think adding chili to like this, this juicy yeah East Coast IPA, like hazy IPAs would just kind of ruin it, to be honest. I think it works well with the, with the typical West Coast bitter IPA. So,
00:32:25
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It's kind of like it's kind of like having like a really nice curry. Actually, like curries have a bit of bitterness in there as well. along And that comes from the yogurt often they use, right? Yeah, well, that's sour. but in him But yeah, but the sour bitterness, it can be perceived both ways, depending on how it is. But, the you know, just some of the spices can give you a bitter, bitter flavor to the curry.
00:32:51
Speaker
So it see kind of falls into the same category there. And I'm you know really excited to see how people take it. And I'm pumped for the label looks so fucking sick. So, you know, it's nice to know like when For those of you guys who don't know, like I have a background in in graphic arts, actually in photography, but it's kind of, you know, in these modern days that you end up using the computer a lot. So I've got a lot of like background in this stuff. So what's nice is that as a small like producer, I can do all this stuff myself and make the shit, like make the label exactly as I want it.
00:33:34
Speaker
Whereas like the average brewer out there doesn't have a clue about marketing or design or anything like that. And they just fucking tell some graphic designer to whack some shit together. And it just, you know, it's nothing special on the shelf as a result. And you see that everywhere.
00:33:50
Speaker
Right? Yeah. Yeah. See that everywhere. There's that trend of like those cans that are just like so colorful and so much going on on them. And they stood out for a moment until everyone else started doing that. Yeah, right. And then you're like, ah how do I know which like Armisen and Ludwig and all those Norwegian brands started like doing exactly the same type of cans and you're like, which ones which? Yeah.
00:34:18
Speaker
Yeah. All these kind of. Yeah. So yeah, it's a pretty pretty. um So I'm happy with the cleaner style. I'm doing all the what I will eventually like cosmic crisis pretty like bright in your face. But I just love the graphic so much. I just couldn't let it go. ah But the other two like you'll see that you if you put Cryo Jesus and and Holy Ghost together side by side, you'll see the graphic ah continuity through it. Yeah, I think that's great. right And so there's there's a plan that the future future releases of these kind of individual beers will have a similar ah graphic profile to it.
00:35:02
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think that's smart because everyone can go, oh, yeah, that's Eucharist. Yeah. You know, on the shelf. Right. I know that's Eucharist because that's the style of label they always go with. Yeah. So, I mean, ah there will be some variance. I think that kind of just adds a bit of fun to it from time to time. So like the single hop series is quite different again. But like the the thing that will hopefully people will recognize the the ring on the brand.
00:35:32
Speaker
ah which is like a crown of thorns, and and hopefully then there'll be some continuity through there. so Sometimes um i I think I like to mix it up a little bit and do something a little bit different, just to shock people to think, okay, there's something new, but it's got that that brand on it that I liked the last one that had that same brand.
00:35:52
Speaker
You know, I don't necessarily agree with you there, but that's OK. I think, to be honest, in these early days, you really need to nail exactly what your product looks like on the shelf. So everybody knows exactly that this is a product that I know and trust. The other the other side of it, too, is is in the beginning, though, like.
00:36:14
Speaker
No one cares. No one gives a fuck, do they? No one cares. At the end of the day, like, I mean, and most people are just like, if it's new beer, it's new beer, they want to try it. It's like the people that are really like looking for new beer, they don't give a fuck what it looks like. They just want to, as long as that looks cool, like, or interesting.
00:36:36
Speaker
That's all I care about. So that's, um, hopefully then, you know, obviously there's some plans for new products down the line and we'll see where that goes. So it's graphically at least. So, Hmm. Anything else that, uh, you, so you've got the new labels. Yeah. Um, did you want to talk about the, uh, the finance or slide of things? I mean, how much money I'm losing.
00:37:05
Speaker
No, yeah, it's a big news, don't you? um Yeah. Yeah. i um Well, I've got some i got some funding from our friend, the government.
00:37:16
Speaker
Nice. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. gar and And so I got some funding for the next 12 months to basically build the project ah into a profitable business. and So which is not at the moment. which not not at the moment yeah ah So that's really cool. I managed to ah pitch a exciting enough idea to um to this organization to get the get funding. And they'll basically give me a base salary for the next 12 months whilst I build the business up. So ah long story short, if you've got several million crowns if you feel like investing in Eucharist Brewing, please do drop me a DM. Because I might need your help. at least you know Because at the end of the day, like ah like I can sell products.
00:38:12
Speaker
But I can't I need to there's only I mean, I can't charge, you know, 600 crowns for a bottle of beer, no one will pay that. So without those kind of higher profit margins, I can't afford to keep producing enough to then um sell enough and and actually pay my own salary after this funding runs out. and That's a real reality of of running a business. So you've got to you've got to turn it around into a into a salary at the end of the day. Otherwise, you're, you know, out on your ass. What's the big goal, Karen? The big goal? Yeah, with with Eucharist.
Creating a Social Brewpub Experience
00:38:51
Speaker
The big goal to be looking like in five years time. Oh, man, it's huge, actually. Yeah, it's huge. Like, ah you know, dream big, dream big. That's what you got to do. I don't know, how should I go into it?
00:39:05
Speaker
Yeah, do it. oh I want to hear it. um Okay, so Eucharist Brewing, obviously, like the main the main passion behind the idea originally is the idea of gathering people together, ah getting people together and sharing a moment, sharing life, sharing friendship, having a fucking laugh, having a good time. And, you know, us especially us men, we're quite a little bit socially retarded sometimes.
00:39:34
Speaker
and we need something in our hand to make that happen, ah something to gather around. So that's the idea was that Eucharist beers will be the center point of a social gathering. So that being said, the extrapolation of that ah basically comes to the point where I gotta open my own pub. I gotta open my own beer bar.
00:39:59
Speaker
Nice. And specifically brew pub. So produce my own beers in house and sell in house. And do fucking, I know, mad ass food, like, because like, you and I, Justin, we've we've been, you know, we grew up in Australia, and there's a totally different kind of pub Outlife. ah Outlife. That's a very Norwegian translation there. Utiliver. Like culture. Nightlife culture. and And I think i want to I want to try and bring that to Norway. I really think that that people would, if they catch it, they'll so fucking love it. yeah and And so, you know, like the idea, as you guys know, probably from listening to the podcast, I'm a big fan of American barbecue.
00:40:51
Speaker
And so like we did this, ah we did this like a ribber, like Christmas burnt ends. And I think like those, and then you do the beef version, like as a slick and kind of like do like American barbecue tappers. That'd be the best way to think about it. so small thing Small dishes, finger food that doesn't take like, it's don't cost you a mint, but you get like something really tasty and enjoyable to suck down a pint with like,
00:41:19
Speaker
And you want to buy two rounds of those burn-ins because you're like, you had the first one and you're like, oh, that was so good. Yeah, right. Exactly. I'm going to order some more. Yeah, yeah. Like, and that kind of thing and just have like this whole environment where people come and buy some good food, drink some good beers and connect with one another in the best possible way.
00:41:42
Speaker
And so I'm like, I'm looking for a like, that's where I want to take it. The the fun thing will be like and to do it in a church. um That's so controversial. lot Or at least deck it out as if it is a church inside. like Stained glass window style things and and ah you know, kind of like a bit of a tongue in cheek little poke at church and church culture. And like, you know, this is the new church. Like, this is a new communion. This is, you know, and oh that's so fun, because they're about to go like, yeah, babe, I'm going to the church. Yeah, yeah. It's like, what are you doing tonight? I'm going to church. Oh, so oh so lovely. so You know, hey, hey, boys, where are we going tonight? We're going to church.
00:42:28
Speaker
Right. yeah god that ends Oh, fuck I love him. Gonna have me sacrifice the idols. I love the dream, Kerry. I think it's so good. We went to this place in Dublin, wasn't it? Yeah, it was Dublin, yeah. yeah that was like I think it was actually called the church, wasn't it? I don't remember. I can't remember, yeah. It wasn't an old church. It was all like, yeah, an old Catholic church in the Protestant end of Dublin. But but it was it was good, but it wasn't great. To be honest, it was too kind of cold and and too commercial. I want to bring it
00:43:08
Speaker
to like a real kind of like, you know, your second home, you know, like where you feel always feel welcome there. And it's kind of a little bit more intimate. I don't want that, that church was in a big fucking church, right? Like big tables, right? Yeah. And you could have it like 3000 people in there kind of thing.
00:43:28
Speaker
I'm like, as much as like, I love the, I ah understand the, the, uh, economics of like bringing the thousand people into your bars. Like that's, that's money in the bank, but yeah let's go. But at the same time, you know, to, to get people to keep coming back, you need to create like a nice intimate, uh, scenario where people feel, yeah, they know we didn't need costly, you know, they need cozy feeling.
00:43:56
Speaker
And so it has to hit that kind of mix of things. yeah some um yeah know That's kind of the bigger dream and and hopefully ah things will work towards that in the coming months and years. And and yeah, so, and I think it'd be a fantastic place to go. i mean imagine Can you imagine yourself, you know, like the the bigger dream actually is to like, it's a fermentation house.
00:44:27
Speaker
So not, what does that mean? Yeah. Like not just like. Not just beer. Like, obviously, it's my that's my prime passion and drive. But, like, what what are the girls gonna drink? You know? Like... I just love the fermenting yeasts, girls. What are you into, girl? What are you doing? Oh, I'm thinking about this wine! Like... Oh, no, I Sorry, dude. My mind went in the gutter. I was like, what are the girls... well
00:45:00
Speaker
So, yeah, like, so you have wine, like, you know, you import grape juice because obviously there's not enough grapes in Norway, but And then ferment your own wine in-house. Have a fucking communion platter. How mad would that be? Just get some really awesome sourdough bread that's like made in-house and then like and some wine and have communion together. That would be so fun. Just like because it's so much fun you can have with the concept.
00:45:32
Speaker
Yeah. um And bringing people together and like, I mean, you can do like non-alcoholic things and make kombucha. Like you can, you can take it in so many different directions. I just, I really think that that will be the ultimate goal. Let's bring, you know, people together around fermentation and good times and connection with one. I think that's that, that will be the dream.
00:46:02
Speaker
I'm so glad you talked about this, because I feel like, you know, most people just go ah brewery, right? Yeah. Yeah. But this is a bigger, bigger goal of bringing people together around drink, food and good times. Yeah,
Encouraging Social Interaction at Brewpub
00:46:17
Speaker
exactly. Right. I mean, that that's what we all want, actually. I mean, who doesn't like, I mean, ah how well in was a like, like, there's a reason why nightlife exists.
00:46:28
Speaker
Right? Because we need that social fill in our lives and and we need to get out. I think to be honest, to be honest most of us ah don't get out enough.
00:46:40
Speaker
And I'm not saying like you need to drink, because I'm not advocating that you need to drink more often, although that financially helps me. um But been like just to get out and be social and meet new people and expand our worldview, expand our friendship groups, extend our network, it it know written like enriches our lives.
00:47:04
Speaker
So much more. And in a society now where we're so much online, and we're so disconnected from people physically, but also emotionally. I think that's what you should do too, Karen, people should people need to put their phones in a like a hotel. Yeah, you're not allowed to have your phone inside. Yeah, you know, it's so good. Yeah, like, I don't know if you know, but like Joe Rogan does that in his like comedy club.
00:47:33
Speaker
Oh, really? Everyone. Yeah, no one's allowed phones in their in his comedy club at all. That's great. So you you lock your phone away before you go into the club. Because I mean, like, that would be like knowing that you have you have a place called the church. That's just controversial enough. you know don't And you don't allow people to have their phones. Like, no I think it's man, that's like instant PR material there.
00:48:01
Speaker
Yeah, I think so too. yeah So there you go, people. if you if alice What about seven listeners? Know somebody with some money who wants to invest in such a thing. Hit us up. Hit Kieran up specifically. yeah Because that's what that's what the vision is. I think Kieran can do it.
00:48:23
Speaker
He just needs the the money and the support around him. Yeah. And you know, like I've got contacts for people who have done this kind of thing before. Uh, so it's not like I'm flying in blind. I've also worked as a bar manager for many years as well. So i have hospitality experience and things like that. So like, I think if we can pull it off, like it could be the best place in Oslo. It could be a unique place that would bring people to Norway.
00:48:53
Speaker
Yeah, and on the other side of it is it doesn't have to be right in the middle of town, right? It can be you can bring people to the outskirts of Oslo. Yeah, right. you know and Create an environment there where you think it's really cool and funky. Yeah. And for people to hang out. So I think I think that kind of the idea has so much potential and I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with it. So, you know, if you want to join me on the journey,
00:49:22
Speaker
please give me a shout out, that'd be awesome. So, yeah. There you go. There's the vision. Nice, bro. Love it. Yep. Anyway, we talked a lot about me. This is like 54 minutes. Fuck that. Geez, was this me chatting for 54 minutes? There we go. No, it wasn't quite. we I've pressed record like 10 minutes earlier. It's been, it's been, it's been a while. Yes. um So nothing about me, just what's what about you catch us up on the week
00:49:55
Speaker
Uh, stuff all happened in the garage and, uh, that's it.
Snowmobile and Car Projects Update
00:49:58
Speaker
that's so That's why you let me get along for 45 minutes. Uh, to be honest, uh, okay. Let's, let's, uh, let's give you an update. So, uh, snowmobile update. Yep. Good parts.
00:50:14
Speaker
that I'm still waiting on, ah have finished machining and now are in quality control. okay So that hopefully means by Friday, I should have the parts, hopefully, fingers crossed. yeah Which means technically on Saturday or Sunday, I can test drive this thing and finish the video, woohoo which would be great. That's providing the parts actually fit. And I didn't make a big, huh? And there's no stays around.
00:50:43
Speaker
Well, that's the biggest issue right now. There's no snow. So I've been investigating this week where I can actually drive this thing. ah I may have a couple of places lined up, so that's good. Cool. Let's talk about Tuesday and Wednesday. I was just video editing, trying to get this video for the World Rally Car up to date. It's ah Video editing is a funny thing because you think, oh, I just got to put some clips together and then, hey, presto, two days are gone. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah. This is why I haven't started a YouTube channel. Yeah. Because I don't have two days to use on fucking editing. It's true. ah So, yeah, that's kind of been
00:51:34
Speaker
my first part of the week was just video editing. Yeah. Um, on Tuesday though, I did go to jujitsu training.
00:51:45
Speaker
who and learned some leg submission things that was like incredibly painful. okay So like, why am I doing this? Good question. Why am I hey like trying to break someone's leg? like this And why is this guy that is like opposite me now trying to break my leg? like It doesn't sound very fun. But. But.
00:52:16
Speaker
This Friday, yeah went to what they call no-gee, which is just no, like, ah pajamas, you know? right he does You can just wear, like, normal sports, swear or whatever you want to call it. yeah And, uh, the thing with Nogi is like, it just, there's like the guys that are just proper into it. Right. Like proper assassins, like guys that just wrap you up and kill you. Yeah, right. So I started like, uh, rolling with this one guy.
00:52:47
Speaker
And he somehow got my neck in this thing and just completely getting did like a chiropractic adjustment on my neck. I was like, I heard every vertebrae in my neck just go. I was like, oh my God. And I tapped out. I didn't know. I didn't want him to break my neck. So yeah, he was an absolute assassin. And, uh,
00:53:14
Speaker
To be honest, I was like, why am I here? I'm just getting killed. yeah yeah There's a guy trying to like work out his issues, cracking some guys back in half.
00:53:28
Speaker
ah And then, so we do like five minutes sparring sessions, right? And so when the alarm goes off, you sort of like say thanks for thanks a all and you move on to the next guy. Yeah.
00:53:42
Speaker
And I was like, I rolled with like three guys, four guys now. And I'm like, oh God, okay, I'm going to take a break. And then this big dude, like twice as big as me nearly comes up to me and is like, shall we? And I'm like, all right. So he's huge. He's got to weigh easily 40 kilos more than me.
00:54:08
Speaker
I weigh 90. So he like, he was massive, dude. yeah And somehow I managed to get him off me and flip him over. I don't know how, but I managed. Superhuman strength.
00:54:24
Speaker
And then I thought I had him in like this, in what they call, um, ah shit, I've forgotten the name of it now. Um,
00:54:35
Speaker
god I don't remember the move now, but I thought I had him in this move and then eventually like he ended up kicking me off. right And so I was on my feet and he had his legs, he was on his back and his legs are towards me. And then we had trained this leg lock on Tuesday. yeah right And so I just went,
00:54:56
Speaker
hu Put on the side. I pulled and he's like tapped instantly. And I was like, yes! so some I somebody! I'm a fucking champion! yet
00:55:13
Speaker
a Small win. So it works. There you go. I saw you, I mean, the other day you were at my house and you were practicing him on on Henry.
00:55:26
Speaker
If you're like, yeah, and Henry, you just do this, I'll break your fucking leg. so How old is your son? Do they really need to be learning moves on how to break people's legs at that age? Well, I mean, one day there's going to be a bully. yeah No one's going to fuck with him, I guess. My dad taught me how to break your leg. Watch this. Bang.
00:55:54
Speaker
Yeah, there comes a lawsuit from the parents. Yeah, right. Exactly. ah So moving back on to the project. So I've been working on the WRC car, trying to work out how this thing's going to be put together. yeah like I have no idea about chassis and how much they're supposed to ah flex or what they they call it the spring rate right of the chassis. And so I'm just going blind.
00:56:27
Speaker
So I'm thinking like I've extended it so much I should probably stiffen it up a little bit. yeah so So this week I put in the back ah like a sort of a cross pipe X pattern or X brace in the back behind the seat. yeah um And I needed to get like the notching correct. So this is notching is where like a pipe meets the side of another pipe.
00:56:57
Speaker
And to weld it nicely, you need to make the end of the pipe sort of match the profile of the pipe you're meeting. But you're not only meeting on 90 degrees, you're meeting all like on 45 or 37 degrees or whatever it is, you know, where the pipes meet. So you need something to sort of accurately measure that. And I created this tool, I 3D printed it like And it's just basically a bunch of pins and you slide it over the pipe and you push it on and it kind of measures the the shape of the the pipe and then just pull it back and then mark it on your pipe with the texter. But it wasn't that great, to be honest.
00:57:42
Speaker
I think there's a lot of other tools you could have used like I found out there's a website you can calculate the angle and the size the size of the pipe and then you just press print and it prints out a like a paper template which you wrap around the pipe and then you cut that. So I think in hindsight I need to do that instead.
00:58:04
Speaker
yeah um Otherwise, I mean, I should probably also invest in a tube notcher, which is like a ah drill basically with ah like a way you can set the angles. So you have a drill with ah like a bore, like ah the size of the pipe. So my my pipe is like 32 millimeters. So I'd need like a 32 millimeter bore. And then you just set the angle, which it meets, and then you just use the drill to drill
00:58:35
Speaker
exactly how they'd meet. And then that would be a perfect notch, right? Right. You just go up and then you weld it on. ah But it's also difficult understanding the length. So like you can if you cut it a little short, you're fucked. And you wasted a bunch of pipe. So I dealt with those stresses. And I also ah have I wasn't sure if I was going to do this or not, but I ended up doing it. I made some ass protection. Ass protection. Yeah. So I've i basically got the seat lower than the chassis. okay So yeah if anything, like if I run over something by accident, like a stone or something, the risk is that the stones is going to smash me in the ass. I'll fucking be a paraplegic.
00:59:29
Speaker
So ah basically what I did is bend a bunch of pipe, 20 mil pipe, and those to create like a so like a support for a a metal plate to be yeah get bolted in under. So yeah I did that. You have enough clearance with the wheels and stuff, yeah. Yeah, I've got plenty of clearance. i think I think it's about 15 centimetres clearance yeah okay from the bottom of my seat to the to the ground. So it's not like a go-kart anymore. It's a lot lot higher. But yeah, i it's taking so long. I think I used, well, that was Thursday and Friday. You say it like you're like surprised.
01:00:18
Speaker
and I am surprised every time. I don't understand. like an Every project takes so long. I'm going to an even more complicated project and then start that and be surprised. that next i do it Yeah, I guess doing stuff that I don't even know how yeah yet so he's going to figure it out.
01:00:38
Speaker
It's not like I've done much tube notching before. Yeah. ah And then on the other side is like, so some parts came on Friday. um Some steering parts, the parts that I ordered from AliExpress. Shout out to AliExpress. Seriously. I think I ordered those parts a week and a half ago. Was it a week and a half ago? Maybe it was more. I feel like it was two podcasts ago you talked about this.
01:01:04
Speaker
ah Yeah, well, okay. Well, even two weeks ago, it was really like, I got them on Friday. So, like, actually, I technically got them on Thursday. And considering they have to come all the way from China, like, I can't, I'm not complaining. And they're so like, you know, who is it who is right, Justin?
01:01:27
Speaker
You know who is complaining? The environment.
01:01:33
Speaker
Holy a plane. Like all this cargo moving from China across the world in mostly planes. Yeah, I would agree with that. yeah But at the same time, I mean,
01:01:47
Speaker
If I was to buy the same part here, I i mean, it's no brainer for the cost. Absolutely. It's insanity. Like, it's like so I bought as I explained last couple weeks, you know, you should release coupling, you should get like a letter in the mail that says thank you for supporting the People's Republic of China.
01:02:09
Speaker
I think everyone's doing that, to be honest, Karen, you're probably doing that. ah Yeah, well, not I mean, not quite, but probably at some point money is running back for like aluminium cans or whatever. But yeah, I managed to get those parts. You know, the thing is, I think I paid $15 for this like quick release coupling from the thing. And I'm looking at it. It's like, I don't think the quality is that bad.
01:02:42
Speaker
think For 15 bucks, like it's pretty good. yeah And I'm nearly certain you could buy something similar here in Norway for like 1500. Yeah, easily. Easily. So like 150 bucks. Yeah. So like, ah I get annoyed because Norway is quite strict and and says, oh, you know, we we're going to put all these taxes on everything. and the But you guys don't.
01:03:11
Speaker
give us any choice of things we need to buy not producing anything crazy thing. You know, it's really fascinating, actually. And um ah maybe this is a bit of a ah bit of a side note, but ah we don't do side notes here on this podcast. guys So I went to this thing called Grundeboost last year. And it was all it's all about like ah entrepreneurs who have run their own businesses.
01:03:37
Speaker
And during this kind of little talk, they had a lot of like info from D&B up there about how much businesses in Norway support the state, like the the national welfare system basically. And so like, you know, it's crazy that nationally in Norway, they need 77,000 businesses to start every year And only 30 percent of those will be successful, but they need 77000 businesses a year to start to maintain the current the current welfare state. The interesting thing too is here in Norway, was about 37 percent of people work for the government? Yeah, it's nearly 40 percent or something. It's nearly 40 percent.
01:04:37
Speaker
derive their income from the state budget. Yeah. And then like and then they go and punish like business owners for wanting to employ someone like by making them pay all those extra taxes and fees and stuff. and like We can go down that political fucking rabbit hole maybe another time, but like it's fascinating how, but I think what's really cool for me to see though, as ah someone who's running my own business as well,
01:05:06
Speaker
is that eventually when I start turning a profit, I'll actually be supporting society. And that's like brat's ah that's something I think for me makes it worth it. And so, you know, like, I think if you have a dream to run your own business at some stage of your life, like fucking do it.
01:05:30
Speaker
can do it like because you're paying taxes on your business you're supporting your local area you're supporting your local because I mean depending on the way the tax system works where you are but like businesses support society and I think we if we don't have businesses running like then it's only the big fucking international conglomerate system, like businesses that are fucking coming in and dominating fucking everywhere. Globalism is the death of small businesses that bring life to society society. So like, jump out and fucking do something about it. If you have a dream in your heart, go for it. Take the risk. Dream big.
01:06:18
Speaker
and try something. Worst case scenario, it doesn't work out. Best case scenario, you're fucking employing 50 people and you know, And people are fucking giving you high fives in the street for the contributions you have to society. That's not true at all. They probably hate on you because they're not educated. They're like, you capitalist pig. Well, I mean, that that's true in some respects, but you know it deep down. Like that's and I think I think that's something we need to talk about, especially in Norway. There's no talk about how businesses actually support society.
01:06:56
Speaker
And I think that's a really important thing to note and I like I want to start sharing a little bit more about that because I think it's really important to realize that society doesn't go around like the economy doesn't go around with people not chasing after their dreams. Like if you're just like working in a government job getting your paycheck and going to your cabin or whatever like fucking great if that's great for you, they that's good for you. That's fine.
01:07:23
Speaker
But at the same time, no, not everyone can do that because society will collapse. Yeah, that's kind very true. And unfortunately, we have a school system that brainwashes our children.
01:07:36
Speaker
Which, you know, they'll get into, you know, cracking the shits. Why don't we move on? Because it's been an hour and 12 minutes according to the clock up here. So we might have to move on. All right, Karen. Well, what is blowing your mind
Inspiration from Dream Pursuers
01:07:51
Speaker
this week? Double rainbow all the way across the sky.
01:07:59
Speaker
Bye. Well, actually it comes back to what I mentioned before, people chasing their dreams. Like I've been watching, you know, like a bunch of podcasts and, and, you know, like people that I look up to and and like, yeah. And on the back of understanding what chasing your dreams in terms of like, in this case, we're talking about businesses. Uh, but it can be any dream really, to be honest, but like,
01:08:27
Speaker
people chasing their dreams. It's mind blowing. It's fucking like when everyone in all these voices in society saying don't do it. Don't stand out. Don't try. Don't you'll fail. do know And people are still fucking doing it. That blows my mind. Yeah, that blows my mind. I think it's great. Fucking keep going. Like it's a reminder to us, you and me just fucking let's just fucking smash it out of the park.
01:08:53
Speaker
Let's do it. And anyone out there, there has to be trailblazers. Yeah, yeah. In society, you know, when no one looks up to the people who've played it safe. No, exactly. Right. No one like anyone that you look up to went outside of the box and tried something different. Yeah. So there you go. Blowing my mind, people chasing their dreams.
01:09:15
Speaker
yeah Yours is so epic. Mine seems so trivial. Okay, it hit me. ah You know what's blowing my mind this week? That in Poland, they use muscles with hot glue sensors on their shells to detect water quality. What? Yeah.
01:09:42
Speaker
So this is how the water system works. They get eight like muscles. Yeah. Like know the like crumb shell or whatever. No. what shell they are yeah yeah yeah yeah know And they they hot glue a sensor on the shell. Right. And when the water quality is bad, right the the muscles will automatically close their shell. Right.
01:10:07
Speaker
because they think it's like, let's not open my shell, it's bad here. yeah So when they close their cell shell, the ah the sensor then closes and a lot alarms go off in the water detection system. That's crazy. And so if four of the eight muscles yeah close, then the water supply is cut off to the city. Wow. And then they have to sort out what the issue is.
01:10:35
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There's obviously a contaminant in the water. So the muscles are so so sensitive to contaminants that they will close. to protect themselves. So yeah, there's no sensors, just muscles apparently. Yeah, there you go. I think they they probably have both. Yeah, but at the same time, like that's pretty ingenious, really. Let's just hot glue gun a sensor on the back of the thing. I don't think the poor muscles get taken out, that hot glue to sensor on them and then put back into the water.
01:11:06
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Yeah. So they look, if you see it, it's like a, like a bit of wire, like a spring wire, I guess it is, you'd call it hot glued on. And it's all it is, is closing the circuit. Yeah, right. Yeah. So like, I think it's a magnetic circuit because you're going to have water, you know, but it's like closing a magnetic circuit. Yeah.
01:11:30
Speaker
As though when the shell closes, the sensor comes closer to the magnet and just goes... And then... It's crazy. It's so crazy. Okay, that's that. I mean, that's a significant mind-blown. That's mind-blown. There you go. But, Kieran, what's giving you the... Who does number two work for?
01:11:59
Speaker
oh hey hey just Did you finally shorten this? ti your lip and give it hell come on There you go. I the shits a little bit with contract brewing at this. This ah is ah more relevant for my situation right now. Trying to find the people to produce beer and it seems like no one is interested in making any money, especially when most of them are doing pretty bad at the moment. Well, Kieran, how much would it cost you to buy a thousand litre setup? Depends on the quality and the type of setup that I'm going for. Yeah. Let's just say you're like, what do you really want? Like, easy, like brand new,
01:12:56
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good like or maybe like second i would I could go secondhand as long as I knew it was looked after. um and like i mean For a mil you could get a lot. A lot ah million Norwegians I would say.
01:13:09
Speaker
It's just not really that much money. It's like what, 200, 250,000? Yeah. the other The other side of it is you've got the costs of you've got to set it up somewhere and do all the other stuff there. But, you know, like I think in terms of costs, like, I mean, maybe a secondhand brew house might be 500,000 depending on its use and quality and tanks and things like that. I mean, you can pick up a secondhand thousand litre tanks for like under 50,000 apiece. So for Norwegian crowns that is. So I mean, it's like, it's the money wise, it's just the logistics of actually setting it up and getting it up and running and then producing the product.
01:13:52
Speaker
And having a place you can actually produce beer. Yeah, there's obviously licensing issues and all sorts of things. So sort as it's not just a matter of, ah you know, buying a brew house and then printing money, because it's far from that. I mean, if it were the case, then there will be a lot of more breweries actually doing well right now. ah But that's part of the rethought behind brewpop for me is is that you have a captive market to sell your beer to.
01:14:20
Speaker
And the other side is if you get the right licensing, you can actually actually package product from that brewery as well, and then sell it onwards. So you have an expanded ability to produce and sell. So there you go. Yeah, totally. So yeah, there you go. Justin, recommendation. Oh no, hold on. You didn't tell me what your shit's worth. To be honest, this could go on for a while, but I'll try and keep it.
01:14:50
Speaker
civil. ye So lately, I've been noticing my son, Henry, coming home from school and saying the most outlandish things about political and social ideas. Okay. Giving an example here. Yeah, so he'll say things like Trump's, you know, trying to start a war with Greenland.
01:15:17
Speaker
Right. Or, you know, Trump's trying to take over Canada. Like there is some truth to these claims. Yeah, right. But this absolute garbage. It's all very polarized. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, doesn't matter what your political standing is, like, let's just look at the facts. Yeah. Like, let's not go. Yeah. Trump is a just big loud mouth idiot. Right. You know, it's standing there, but I don't necessarily disagree or agree with him. Like I, we could talk about politics forever, but don't
01:15:57
Speaker
sell my kids these lies without like giving them the full gamut of information. Well the thing is he's probably hearing it from someone, some other friend of his whose parents have said something.
01:16:10
Speaker
Or the teachers, because what they do is they watch the news, right? Yeah, right. In their classroom. Now, they watch this NRK, like, ah news show every every week. Yeah. It gives them an update. But it's super biased. It doesn't give them a real rounded opinion. It's brainwashing them from day one.
01:16:32
Speaker
yeah I'm sorry, but it is. I mean, OK, when you have 63 percent or 67, I think 67 percent of the Norwegian media is owned by corporate interests. Like, how is that not swayed? But oh, wait a second. NOK can't be anyway persuaded at all. Yes, it can.
01:16:55
Speaker
what What happens if nearly 70% of the media is saying one thing? Of course, no like the Norwegian broadcaster is going to have to say something about it. And they can't say anything too contrary to that either. because then No, because they'll get ousted and they'll lose. Yeah, discredited,
Media Bias and Critical Thinking
01:17:12
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right? So it's like, just let's be, let's use our analytical hats here and don't let your kids get brainwashed. It's giving me the shits.
01:17:22
Speaker
I've had to say to Henry like a couple of times like, Hey, I don't think you have all the facts here. So don't be going around saying this stuff because you don't know. And like, I'm all good with people having opinions, but have the facts. Like, let's do some research before we start going around saying like, you know, Elon Musk is a bloody Nazi yeah because he did some stupid thing. He's not a Nazi. Are you kidding me?
01:17:52
Speaker
He made a dumb decision and made a stupid hand gesture. That doesn't make him a Nazi. Yeah, but it doesn't look at what he's doing. But the very fact that we're talking about it now illustrates why it happens.
01:18:07
Speaker
Right, because it's all about clicks, all about like newspaper sales, all about generating this thing that hopefully then sell. but And this is the irony of the situation, because you know you you go to that website that has the thing, you click, and it's and there's ads there. you know it's It's selling you some shit. There's a subscription that you've got to go join to. Everyone's trying to fucking sell you shit.
01:18:35
Speaker
So just acknowledge that that's what it is. Maybe that's exactly why Trump got in power because the the the news agencies realized they could sell more papers when they have an idiot. Absolutely. far And saying dumb shit all the time. They can sell, oh, did you hear what Trump said this week? yeah just get it Just get someone who actually can be logical and rational. You know, like I imagine that like the vast, like, you know, when when ah Obama was in in power. I imagine, like, sales and click-through rates were fucking at an all-time low in comparison. They were. Yeah, right. So it's just like, whoop-de-doo, like, we finally got someone who can actually make this newspaper money. Yeah, and the funny thing is, like, the misinformation is correct. Well, ah let's not call it misinformation. The information given to
01:19:33
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like kids and schools and everything and the general society is like one pipette of like what is actually going on. So everyone's talking about Trump taking green or wanting to take Greenland. ah Like in 2001, which happened to be the Biden administration, guess what they did?
01:19:53
Speaker
they funded a whole bunch of airports in Greenland so they could leverage the new military base they were building up there. Right, exactly. like This has been a play for A long time. Yeah. Like just because the idiot goes out there. It's just he's fucking like, let's be honest. It's just because Trump's dumb enough to yabber on about some shit and put his foot in his mouth that everyone's like, Oh, is that what they're planning to do? Or no, it's like, it's like, it's a new thing. like it's i It's been the plan the whole time. It's been like in the works for fucking 50 years or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, we've talked enough about this. yeah It did give me the shits. And I just think
01:20:35
Speaker
If you are a parent to a child and they come home saying this stuff, then just be careful with them because they're so impressionable and this will shape them for the rest of their lives on how they politically lean and think.
01:20:54
Speaker
And if they can't critically analyze things, then they're not going to be very successful. They're just going to be as sheep following the masses. And then Norway will fall apart because no one's starting businesses. No one's starting the church, Kieran. No one's starting the church where everyone goes for a good time because the masses are just sheep now and they all believe the same thing.
01:21:20
Speaker
Well, you know, and there's no one contradicting that and saying, hey, what about this? So that's what's giving the shits this week. Right. That only took 16 minutes.
01:21:31
Speaker
so ah Recommendation, recommendation. What is your recommendation? That was what my time. My recommendation intro was very similar to that actually. Yeah. I was dawdling around on the computer earlier today. ah My recommendation is scratch a date. Scratch a date? You actually gave me those for ah like Lina and I, um those for Christmas, didn't you?
01:22:05
Speaker
Have you started? we We did one. It was like, ah yeah, but the to be honest, it's been sick kids and all sorts of things going on. So we haven't really done much with it. But yeah, we have done. We have started. Sorry. Yeah. Well, since January or yeah probably actually it was yeah January, we've done it every week. Nice.
01:22:28
Speaker
So it's been really good. There's a bunch of stuff that you just don't think is going to be good. And then it ends up being good. so Like this week we had, uh, I scratched one. So Kristen does one and organizes it yeah one week. And then the other week I do it. okay So this week it was, uh, my turn and I scratched it and it's like, we're going to build Lego together. Yeah, cool.
01:22:52
Speaker
And I was like, sweet. Yeah, this is going to be mad. yeah So much fun. Right. But we got sat down and we started like playing Lego and none of us found it enjoyable. Right.
Lego Projects and Kids' Creativity
01:23:05
Speaker
But we persisted at it. And then after about half an hour, all of a sudden we're building things. Yeah. And then I built this like, I don't like a I guess you'd call it like a fort with like a tower and like laser guns and stuff. And Christian just built a house with like in huge data detail with like sofa and garden and all sorts of stuff, right? Out of the Lego we had just, you know, in the in the blanket that we've got all the Lego in. And then we decided to leave the Lego and our projects out. Yeah.
01:23:42
Speaker
And then um during the whole week, the kids were so inspired by what we did, they started playing with Legos. And then what happened was they bring their friends over and then all of a sudden they come in from the garage and there's like four kids laying on the ground building Legos instead of watching their stupid phones or watching TV. yeah that's It was so good. yeah So just small things like that.
Introducing Scratch-A-Date Game
01:24:12
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If it wasn't for Scratch-A-Date, then, you know, but Scratch-A-Date is, it's basically, I should explain before I go too far and go over to you what your recommendation is, but it's basically a bunch of cards with, you know, it has time and expense basically yeah on it. And you could choose a card according to that, and then you just scratch what is on the card and then it'll tell you what you should do with your your wife or husband, right? yeah And then you just do that. And it's just a good prompt to spend quality time with your partner, basically. Yeah, awesome. um Cool. What's your recommendation,
Expanding Beer Tastes
01:24:58
Speaker
Kieran? People need to try a new beer. Just like, you know, like you're down at the shops and you're like, oh, I just get the same old beer that I always get. Try something new. Branch out, take a risk.
01:25:10
Speaker
Something like, oh, that looks funky or weird or interesting or boring as batshit. I'll give it a go. Like, just try something new. Expand your horizon. Like, you're like, oh, what? What is a passion fruit? Ale, ale, whatever it is. Like you see there, just give it a crack. See what happens. You know, expand your horizon on taste and and try something new. Try a new beer. That's my recommendation for this week. Love it. Short and sweet.
01:25:40
Speaker
Good.
Listener Appreciation and Future Hints
01:25:41
Speaker
Well, I'll be a bit on enough for this week. A long-form podcast this week, Justin.
01:25:49
Speaker
ah Seven listeners got bored halfway through, I'm sure. There's a drop in tension. yeah oh well Well, yes. yeah Thank you for everyone for joining this far, if you got this far. Yes, thank you everyone for listening. We will catch you next week for an update. What's happening in our garages. Cheers, everyone. Bye.