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How Does Station Design Impact the Ride Experience?
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Allison and Jenn bring a very different creative topic to the table this episode, taking a look at station design—how theming and efficiency can have an impact the ride experience. We examine what stations we like best, what some parks could do better, and differences in design choices between Europe and the US. We also talk recent quick trop recaps and go over our Spoitify Wrapped stats for the podcast. IF you're listennig in—you contribute to these stats that we feel so proud of, and we appreciate the support!!
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Introductions and Episode Setup
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You are listening to the Inverted Creative Podcast. I'm Allison. I'm Bryant. And I'm Jen.
00:00:17
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Jen and I are so on top of things that we just spent about an hour and a half not recording when we're supposed to be recording. Yeah, we were walking dogs, and at one point I was on the floor cuddling with my dog. She was petting kittens. Going off my kitten. Looking at dresses.
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We've been doing everything but recording, but it's fine, because we're here
Weather and Personal Updates
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now. We are here. How are you, Ben? I am good. How are you? am not looking forward to the cold this weekend. I'm not... I'm still trying to recover from the cold from taking Ahsoka outside. I...
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i don't know how you do it in Ohio. I don't. I don't. Especially as a Georgia girl. Yeah. i I was ah unprepared for Ohio winters and they've just gotten worse every year so far.
00:01:08
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Yeah. They're definitely not good. Yeah. We're supposed to get snow tonight and then more snow on Saturday and then the high on Sunday is like 12 with a low of negative 2.
Celebrating Podcast Milestones
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don't like this. Yeah. Yeah. ah it Doesn't sound fantastic to me. It's fine. the off season and I just want to go ride more coasters even though I can. it's just cold when I do.
00:01:38
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Riding a coaster right now does not sound fun to me. It's so windy and cold here. um i mean, we'll get I'll get into Winterfest in a second. I did go to Winterfest briefly last weekend? This past weekend? Yeah.
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Um, but before getting into that, um, a very popular thing recently called a Spotify rap dropped. And I'm sure other other ones did too, but I don't know a lot of the stats for the others, but I got our stats for the podcast for our full first full year of the podcast on Spotify. And I'm not gonna lie, I read the stats when I was on lunch at work and I cried in my car because I was so happy and proud of us.
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Yeah, I was so excited when you shared those. um I think like first and foremost, um especially to anyone who listened, thank you so much. But especially to our 25, who we were number one for. Right.
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um That is incredible to me. i I'm very excited about that. um I'll go through some of the stats that I saved. 96.6 thousand minutes of listening.
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um I don't know when they actually pull the stats. I want to say it's like end of November. I think it's the last day of November. Yeah. So we would have had, what, 30 episodes minus a few. So like, you know, I have a way to look at this. It's okay. About 30 episodes. Something like that.
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um So yeah, 96,000 minutes of listening time. 17 countries reached. 17 countries. um Australia was up there. Brazil yeah first ze was up there, which is very interesting. Netherlands was up there. Cannot imagine why. mu Yeah, the Dutchies.
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And I think the UK was in the top five. It was very interesting. Yeah, I feel like English speaking, that makes sense.
Personal Spotify Wrapped Highlights
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Yeah, but man, we have a we had a lot more reach than I expected, which is incredible.
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um What else? Yeah, we're top 25 or number one show for 25 people, which we love you. they still can't believe that. That is like no
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crazy to me that we are 25 or we're for people. crazy. Yeah. we were a top ten show for a hundred and twenty four
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that's crazy yeah I love all the love. um It said 40% hit play within 24 hours of a new episode drop. To all you ah loyal listeners on every other Monday when these go live, thank you.
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um Let's see. It was a 2025 marathon show. Fans listened to you for longer than 93% of other shows. Oh, amazing. That's crazy. I can't believe we have people that listen like that. I know. And then a fan fave, your average rating was higher than 75% of other shows. So yeah, those those stats are getting me a little misty-eyed again, too, just thinking about it.
00:04:58
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Knowing that we're in the first year of the podcast, essentially. Yeah, I'm very excited. how where we can grow to. I know i i don know. I'm just I'm very proud. Like this has kind of been a long time coming project for me. And I'm just I'm really happy for everybody who's involved.
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And for you, Jen, and all you've done and for Brian and all that he's done. and all the guests that we've had on. it's It's been awesome. Yeah. I love doing this a lot more than I expected to when we started.
00:05:34
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Yeah, I'm very happy with how everything is going and proud of us for how everything is going. Yeah.
00:05:45
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Yeah. Very exciting recap. um Again, I don't know what other stats were. um i'm sure Apple Music has some kind of rap thing. I don't know if I've ever logged into Apple Music to even see it.
00:05:59
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I don't know if they do a creators one. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think they do.
00:06:08
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Yeah. Like most of my podcasts that I listen to are like ninety s TV show rewatch podcasts where like the actors go back and rewatch all their episodes.
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Like three of my top podcasts were that. That's actually very fun. I think a lot of a lot for me has changed in the last year. I think usually my top podcasts are
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are like one subject and this year they're all Dutch theme parks. That tracks. Yeah. Can you tell that theme parks are my favorite subject? So when trying to learn another language, I just am listening to podcasts about theme parks in that language. Yeah.
00:06:52
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Yeah, mine's all ah TV, like, entertainment stuff, and then had a Drunk Riders and Thrill's Chills and Spills, which is also kind of part of the Drunk Riders. Yeah. Those are my top podcasts.
00:07:04
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However, my top artist was Fantaziland. That's so good. Like, i thought that was so funny when I saw it. um
00:07:17
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Yeah. Mine was not a theme park. Yeah. Yeah. However, i do just have to I'm kind of shocked. Not really. I kind of thought this would happen. This is my first year since it was released that Champagne Problems is not my number one streamed song.
00:07:37
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So Taylor Swift, right? Yeah. It's the best Taylor Swift song. It is my first year since it was released in, I want to say, 2021. Let's see. Champagne Problems.
00:07:51
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have look it up. 2020. So this is my first year since 2020. Wow.
00:08:03
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twenty twenty so this is my first year since twenty twenty that oh Champagne Problems has not been my number one song on Spotify. what What dethroned it?
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yeah Some random Dutch song. um the i What's really funny is that like this is not theme park related at all. But what's really funny is that it's an artist that Joey...
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cannot stand like even a little bit and he they just happened to be on this playlist that i listened to and i don't click that song often i don't whatever but somehow it ended up being my top song um i don't know very weird my top taylor swift song this year is all too well 10 minute version which that's one of my favorites though i don't listen to lot of taylor swift but i love that one Still a fantastic song, but um I don't know what to do without Champagne Problems. That's, I think since, when did Spotify wrapped come out?
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Not long before. I want to say like 2018 or 19 or something. Yeah, like, let's see. 2015. So it's been a little while, but I don't think I had Spotify until 2019 or 2020. had Apple Music.
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so In my whole entire life of having Spotify wrapped, Champagne Problems has been my number one song. and
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I manifested my number one song this year. I knew it was going to happen, and it happened. Because I went back and looked on my Instagram stories, and on March 18th of this year, I posted it was the Helix theme song, and I said, I swear this song is going to end up on my Spotify wrap this year, and I haven't even been to Lisaburg yet.
00:09:52
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um Well, skip ahead to June, July, whatever. i went to Lisa Berg and Helix theme song was my number one song on Spotify. That's amazing. I love that. Look at that foreshadowing. I knew it was going to happen.
00:10:06
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i don't know what it's going to be next year, but it might be Helix again. No, actually, I think I know what it might end up being next year. I'm shocked. We'll see.
00:10:17
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I'm shocked that it wasn't Vilda Hilda for me. Honestly, I'm surprised that didn't crack it for me either. like i listen to that a lot and i just have to i know he probably doesn't listen to this podcast i have some people that will agree with me but listen if chris ott put the cedar point song onto apple music slash spotify wrapped that would be number one number one it's the best song ever i didn't even i don't even remember what was on my list after helix
00:10:51
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I don't think any of mine were theme park rally did.
00:10:57
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Um. Maybe under my screenshots. No mine are literally a bunch of dunce. Actually there is a song called. Octbahn. Which is roller coaster. My list is so random. And I don't know how one of these songs ended up being.
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on my top. Yeah, i this year I really do feel like the list is a mess. Like, my top artist somehow ended up being Taylor Swift. And, like, I really feel like I didn't listen to Taylor Swift that much this year.
00:11:26
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Like, i had Sabrina Carpenter on repeat.
00:11:33
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That's kind of funny. So my top artist was Mintaziland. And then I have, like, two actual bands and then a DJ. And then I'm a score. Is my number five. see that. Yeah. I'm a score.
Future Podcast Plans
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Love that.
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That's actually so good.
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And I did like the YouTube rap too. And it said. Let's see. Early 2025. You started the year diving into theme park reviews. And roller coaster experiences. Especially in Japan. And you know what I blame for that. Is Coaster Studios and Jet Lag the Game.
00:12:10
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And Jet Yeah, they did i think they did a Japan thing too, but my my top channels were Coaster Studios, Jet Lag the Game, and Coaster Focus. So this says a lot about who I am as a person.
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Yeah.
00:12:28
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Anyway, that was a fun little thing to look back at. I know everybody loves Spotify wrapped. Yeah, it's a fun time of year. Yeah, so I'm looking forward to seeing how the stats will compare next year.
00:12:42
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For the podcast. Maybe we can beat 100,000 minutes. Because we're so close. Yeah. We'll see. i very excited to see. Yes. Thank you to everybody who listens and helps out our Spotify wrapped stats.
00:12:57
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Yeah. Keep listening. Keep suggesting things for us.
00:13:04
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Yes. We have a lot of ah we're We're talking about kind of like future episodes. When we're... you know, talking for an hour, whatever, beforehand. We did actually have some productivity. We did talk about, like, future interviews that we want to do. And we have some ideas.
00:13:21
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Yeah. I'm excited for what we have coming. Yeah. Assuming we can make it happen. But I think we can make it happen. Yeah. I didn't even tell you one of my other ideas I had for a guest, actually.
00:13:34
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It'd be a big get, and I could do it, I think. All right. But I'll tell you about that after. Yeah, looks like we might have a surprise guys. i don't know about a surprise, but. Yeah. um yeah ah Crap, I lost my ah and document. There we go. um Do you have any recaps or anything, Jen?
00:13:58
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No, you do. you you I was in Orlando. You were in Orlando.
Theme Park Adventures in Orlando
00:14:02
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Yeah, so um one of my friends turned 30. um So large birthday. so um me and another friend went, we flew down to Orlando without her knowing and we surprised her.
00:14:18
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So very fun. And then we did Orlando things. We went to Epcot one day. um and then I thought we were just going to go to Universal, but Then we got there and very quickly that changed to we're going to Epic Universe.
00:14:36
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Oh, darn. Oh, darn. My wallet is saying, oh, darn. But I was not saying, oh, darn. no um I do just have to, not that, again, no spoilers for Epic. That's like, yeah, not the intent of this. But I do just have to say that now twice in a row I have walked on to Ministry.
00:14:57
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Nice. So. two visits It poured all day. So I think that people were like not going to use their tickets that day. Yeah. um Which makes sense. um When you're paying that kind of money, a big rain day is not great.
00:15:14
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um So it rained all day, which made a very, very quiet, epic day. And we got everything done. Nice.
00:15:25
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Yeah. Not bad. I'm so ready for that day.
00:15:32
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What's that? I'm so ready to go back there. I know. I'll be back. one I know. month and a half. I don't know when I'll be back. Not soon enough.
00:15:42
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It actually might be like two months, but ah it's funny. Yeah. It's a good park. It's a very good park. It is. the um Epcot is always good too. like I love Epcot, especially at Christmas. The decorations are very good.
00:16:00
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um We saw the candlelight processional. Oh, nice. Yeah. um Ashley Eckstein. So for anyone who doesn't know who actually like Ashley Eckstein is, she is the original voice of Ahsoka Tano.
00:16:14
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um That's fitting for you. Yeah, exactly. So she was narrating. So Taylor actually texted me and was like, if if we surprise this weekend, then um Ashley Eckstein's at Epcot. Yeah.
00:16:32
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So that's the real reason you went down that weekend. Yeah, no, it was her first year though. And she was so cute. She was like so happy and grateful um to get to do something like that. One thing I really love about her, is she's like a Florida girl born and raised. So um Disney is like in her entire being. So whenever she gets to do things like this, she's someone who is so genuinely excited to be there. um It's really special to watch her.
00:17:04
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Nice. Yeah. So, yeah. Other than that, pretty chill. nothing Nothing too crazy for Orlando weekend. Yeah.
00:17:15
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Yeah. Well, my tiny little recap is um last weekend, this past weekend, whatever, we had a bunch of friends come over and we tested the physical limitations of our house with how many people we had over. um And we did a Friendsgiving. It was very, very Coaster Friendsgiving. It was all people from our Coaster Club.
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um
00:17:41
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Yeah, we did ah just a nice little Friendsgiving. It was absolute chaos in the kitchen.
00:17:48
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But we got through it and it was a good meal. Stupid Coaster references all the time. yeah Our our good or ah gravy boat, we wrote literally wrote on it, good gravy exclamation point.
00:18:00
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That's amazing. good great heat Exclamation point. Exclamation point. And then a bunch of us went up to Winterfest right afterwards. I think we did Racer a couple times.
00:18:13
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Did Mystic. ah Mystic in very cold weather is just like top tier. it was I think it was like low 30s, upper 20s or something while we went on it.
00:18:26
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I could see that being an incredible cold weather ride. oh it's It's so much better in the cold, but I just hate having to go out in the cold to do it. Yeah. um On the downside.
00:18:37
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I'm trying to think what else. A couple of people did Snoopy's.
00:18:43
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don't even think. I was about say, don't think we had dinner. It's like, no, because we just ate so much food right before we went there. Yeah, but still. Free meal plan food. Yeah, but I did not even want to think about food.
00:18:57
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Yeah. um Yeah, it was a nice little night. um I did put a vlog up about it on the YouTube. It's like 10 minutes long. It's silly. You can see some video of Alpi.
00:19:10
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Because everybody got to meet Alpi. Oh, chicken. Yeah. Yeah, it was a good little time. That's good. That sounds like it's a very nice...
00:19:22
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Yeah. And now I don't know the next time I'm riding a roller coaster. Because I don't know if we're going to get back to Winterfest. I'm sure we'll get back to Winterfest. Yeah, I think... It hasn't been priority for me this year.
00:19:33
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Yeah. I think as of now, I might be going to BGW. um nice. Yeah. I hate making that drive, though. Like, more than anything.
00:19:48
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But... I don't think we have much else planned after that. Like, even before the wedding, I don't think we have a whole lot going on. I guess we're going down to Dollywood in the April.
00:20:01
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I'm jealous. Where I might be running a half marathon, but TBD? Ugh. Gross. I've been there, done that. It's terrible. i mean, I've done half marathons before, but this one would be with a bunch of friends.
00:20:18
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Yeah. Um. I might be trying to get more mountain coasters so I can line up a milestone in Europe.
00:20:28
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On insane. Because that'd just be a really fun joke. It'd be an insane milestone. That would be. Cue the Nate. No, that's a grown one. Yeah, no, that's a grown one. God, the amount of times we said that this weekend too.
00:20:45
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But yeah. That would be a good milestone. Yeah. Yeah. It'll either be that or Magic Land or I really wish it would be on the typo coaster, but I don't know if that'll happen.
00:20:58
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Oh my god, do it on the gay cat. Rides. Rides.
00:21:04
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I forgot to say the rides at the end. Do it on the gay cat. Poor cat. i love if I love gay cat bark.
00:21:18
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ah i'm so I'm still going to get you a stuffed animal from there. It's literally on our honeymoon itinerary list. It will come up here. This is where my, um this is where anyone listening that can't see because we don't share video. um Above my desk in my bedroom behind my TV is my collection of stuffed animals that are under no circumstances to be touched by Ahsoka. It will be in my collection of hidden stuffed animals that cannot be touched by Ahsoka. Ahsoka.
00:21:50
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Soka has a very bad habit of stealing my stuffed animals and ripping their eyeballs out. Oh, geez. Maybe that'll be... Okay, maybe not the ripping the eyeballs part, but, like, maybe that'll be a Patreon video is me finding that stuffed animal for you. Yes!
00:22:04
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The hunt for the gay cat plushie. Yeah, I love it. I have the... It'll be with my Dan Spacabre cat. Ooh. I love him. See, I'm also going to want to get one for myself because I
Coaster Station Design and Impact
00:22:17
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collect, like, international park stuffed animals.
00:22:20
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I have a huge collection that Javi, don't know about fosters, ah makes happen because he'll go to parks and then show up at our house with just like a tote of stuffed animals. And I'm like, why? How?
00:22:37
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Yeah, that's so good. I love that. So I got to keep going, keep that going, I guess. Yeah, that's too fun not to. I didn't get a whole lot on our last trip. I got a little mechelodon keychain.
00:22:53
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He's cool looking. I'm really jealous he got to ride that. I really want to ride that. I want to go back to that park. Yeah, I want to go to that park. ah I'm going to talk about that park a little bit today on our topic, which we can now segue into.
00:23:09
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Yes. I was going to say this is a perfect one for our topic today. I came up with a topic of station design. Um, cause a lot of what happens in a coaster station can kind of set the tone for how your ride is going to be and how you're going to enjoy your ride. And that's something, um, I can already bring up. I think it was wom wom wom said, um, uh, I've become pretty observant of how the station environment impacts my mood before writing music sounds and loading procedure in particular.
00:23:45
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Yeah. I'm like, that's a perfect comment for, ah this topic. Yeah, because I do feel like it can really make or break your experience on a ride. um You can have, he also comments on here, having the full speed off um on Flight of Fear and then coming back to an empty train is really,
00:24:11
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wait, hold on, what is it? Wait, maybe I misread this. Hold on. Flight of fear having a full train speed off and an empty train return will never not be fun to me.
00:24:23
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That doesn't make sense, right? Lam? No, it does. It does? So, like... He thinks it's awesome that it comes back empty? I think so, because it's just like, awkward is it's like where did all the people go? Oh, okay. Sorry, i read that differently when I first started to talk about it, and then I was like, double-taking? And I was like, wait, what? um Oops, sorry.
00:24:45
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of No, I do think it'll make and break it though. Cause I've had experiences where the last like station weight in a queue has completely destroyed my experience. Um, speaking of certain Florida, Florida parks, um, with certain RMCs, a RMC. Um, yeah.
00:25:06
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Yeah. Pretty awful station rate all of the time and terror like not a great station experience. yeah Um, but then, The same exact company, you have Mako that's almost always the cue, the theming, the hype, the... Like, that cue, especially at night towards the last hour of the day, that that station is electric.
00:25:33
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Especially when, like, the stuff on the ceiling is working. Yeah, like the stuff on the ceiling going, the audio, like the... That crew cares about what they're doing. Like... They are doing a great job. Like everything about that experience is fantastic. Um, and it does, it just makes it breaks the experience.
00:25:57
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Now, do you have a favorite station that sticks out in the top of your mind?
00:26:05
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Station. Um, I, I, so I did right at first, but then I thought about it and technically I think it's like the queue. area because the first thing that came to mind was Voltron.
00:26:18
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um Okay. I still have Voltron on my list but for Yeah. Voltron still does have a fantastic um station but I think technically the area I'm thinking about is still considered the queue. Yeah. near the steps um The other one that comes to mind is Titadus.
00:26:40
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I don't haven't even seen pictures of that now that I think about it. Yeah, I really like their queue. I think the, or their station. I think the station's themed really well. It's organized really well. Um,
00:26:55
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yeah, I just think they do a ah really good job leading up to the station, like getting into the station and separating people based on where they want to ride. And then, um, also like incorporating theming and, um, sound into it. So i think I think Tutatis. What about you?
00:27:15
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um Immediately comes to mind Untamed. I love everything about that station. It's got like the overgrown vibes in there. So there's like plants all around and there's like all these different like styles of lamps that start flashing whenever the train dispatches and there's like drums playing. It's just a really, really cool experience.
00:27:37
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Yeah. I love that one. oh and there's like Light up signs everywhere. It says like take the trip. um I already have a picture set aside for ah the episode art. With a the station.
00:27:49
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Have you seen the pictures of the station? I have not. um I will text you one immediately. So you can see it. Because. Yeah. Obsessed.
00:28:00
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So good.
00:28:04
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and If it wants to go through. don't know if it's going through. There it goes. Yeah.
00:28:10
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Let's see. Oh, yeah. That's a really beautiful. Yes. Like all those lights flash whenever the train dispatches. And yeah, I love everything about it.
00:28:23
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um And then in terms of efficiency, but still like good theming is Velocicoaster. Like down to a science. Yeah. um Such quick dispatches while still staying in theme.
00:28:39
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Yeah, they do an incredible job Velocicoaster. The other one that, like, for efficiency with theme I have to give is um Guardians of the Galaxy. Cosmic Rewind.
00:28:50
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I wouldn't know. Yeah, and or Tron. What's really interesting, and I really like this, um it's not the best if you like single riders and you're going as a single rider.
00:29:05
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Then it kind of stinks. But If you're not going as a single rider, the efficiency that they manage in those stations is so good because they have a grouper that separates you based on even an odd parties.
00:29:20
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Yeah. And I know that that's like it's I know that there's a lot of like back and forth on whether or not that's that's. a good thing to do because it does hurt the single riders. If you travel by yourself, it does really impact the single riders, but it's so efficient.
00:29:37
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It is like, boom, boom, boom. Everyone is going where they need to go There's no open seats on that train. It is so efficient. um It is a perfect setup for getting every seat filled.
00:29:50
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Yeah. like The moving station and like, and I'm sure Joey can talk more about this. I was going to say something along the lines of, man, all the ops are there are really good except for this one guy.
00:30:01
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yeah the Dutchman's not. No, I'm kidding. No, we love Joey. He's awesome. The Dutchman's the worst. Whatever, like, they have, like, a ring or something they use to, like, verify the train is locked or something like that. Oh, yeah. It's, like, a magnetic. It's, like, RFID. Yeah, it's an RFID, like, magnet.
00:30:22
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And they, like, verify that the trains are locked. Yeah, all that on the moving platform. Like, you don't even need to speak English to get the hang of, like, the single rider line.
00:30:33
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Yeah, they do a really good job for efficiency. ah The only downside of single rider line for that is I hope you like a wing seat. Yeah. but Yeah, you're always going to get the wing. I have been in single rider where someone has asked to take the wing, though. so Okay, that's fair. Sure, have it. I prefer in the middle.
00:30:55
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Um, I do also have to say, and and this is, some of them are themed really well, um but for me, probably some of the best station designs are GCIs with the flybys in the station. um I don't think that there's a better way to get someone hyped for a coaster.
00:31:17
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Yeah. um I think Kelly mentioned it too. don't know. um Shout out to Kelly. I put like the question or the um the thing on the Instagram stories where you just like respond to the question or whatever. She literally said, hi, I'm taking over these and then submitted like four.
00:31:36
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um Yeah, for fly through, she mentioned ah Woden, votein what a how are you pronounce it? And Lek. Because Lek Coaster does a barrel roll through the station. Oh, that's sick.
00:31:47
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So I was going to specifically elaborate with, ah like, Vodan, because what I really like about Vodan is, like yes, it has the flyby, but as you're leaving the station, it also has animatronics,
00:32:03
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that they like wave, look at the train as it leaves. Why do not remember that? I didn't notice it at first. It took me um a couple rides to notice it, but from front to back of the station, like as it's pulling out, it's like boom, boom, boom, boom. boom And they're all like turning in like this really beautiful cascade looking at the train leave.
00:32:27
Speaker
That's cool. It's a very subtle detail, but very... Very important. I think it's like. Yeah. i just It's a such a cool.
00:32:41
Speaker
Yeah. such little Little animatronic. Animatronic touches like that. As you're leaving the station. um Blue fire is another one. There's random animatronics there. As you leave the station. Continuing the story in German. Which I don't know what they're saying. But it's cool.
00:32:58
Speaker
Yeah. you know Pre-launch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, i that's just, I think Europa Park as a whole. Like, they do an incredible job doing little things like that, which is part of why they're probably one of the best theme parks ever. Yeah.
00:33:13
Speaker
But, yeah. Man, I just thought of another station I love. you You and your love of Europa is equivalent to me and my love of Phantasy Land. Oh, yeah. Oh, look at this. We have a visitor. Alpy just came to say hi.
00:33:28
Speaker
Hello, kitten. Oh, he smells like cat food, but he's so cute. That's okay. Now you you're you have you're killing me. Like, what is this?
00:33:39
Speaker
What is this cuteness? No, you literally were like, I have another one I'm thinking of. Oh my gosh, cat! Sorry, there's a cat. You're killing me. What is it? The suspense! right I'm sorry, there's a kitten! um i was say Black Mamba.
00:33:55
Speaker
Oh, Black Mamba is so incredibly done. that yeah Yeah, I can agree with that one. The theming is so... So good. you feel like you're just in this pit and it's dark and cool.
00:34:07
Speaker
I do feel like it's kind of interesting to notice that we're talking about not really any US-based parks other than Disney and Universal.
00:34:17
Speaker
um Because i I also think that... um
00:34:25
Speaker
I'm losing it now. So we said Black Mamba. Oh, there was another European one that I literally was just about to say, and then I got distracted. um But the European parks, like the effort that goes into theming is just so much higher, in my opinion, at least the parks that we're talking about, mostly, like I know there are definitely smaller regional parks. um But some of those more destination parks, like the Oh, I remember what I was going to say. The level of effort is just much higher. um
00:34:57
Speaker
Karnan. Yeah, 100%. That one's on my list, too. Yeah. Karnan is ah another one that's like... Karnan especially, because getting your... um I don't want to spoil Karnan, so skip like 30 seconds if you don't want to be spoiled. Well, probably more, but...
00:35:18
Speaker
Yeah, well, Allison might enter in if it's more than 30 seconds, but as of right now, 30 seconds. um The fact that you get into that room and then they don't tell you um what assignment you have and then you get a random assignment, like that in itself is one of the coolest station flows I've ever experienced. Yeah, it like, it's not the most efficient, but it's not like people fighting over their rows. You're just like, there's a suspense of like, oh, which one am I going to get?
00:35:49
Speaker
Yeah. Very cool. um Yeah. Very cool. So on brand for that whole theme. Yeah. Literally in the show notes, I like on my list, I put Karnan holy bleep.
00:36:01
Speaker
Yeah. But not bleeped on the show notes. Yeah. It's like, unlike anything. I've ever experienced. Yeah. And then I don't, in a similar vein, i don't know if it's considered part of the station, but like talking about like entry and exit flow is kind of still part of station stuff, but, um, the exit to Flucht von Novgorod.
Theming Disparities: US vs. European Parks
00:36:28
Speaker
how it's like a, yeah. I don't know. where you' Is that the one where you're split and you're like going through like tunneling? Yeah, it's like a maze thing and there's a slide.
00:36:40
Speaker
Yeah. i don't know if that's considered part of the station, but kind of. It's your exit flow. So it is like, it's definitely part of this whole experience of like exiting and entering the ride. um i just think queue a little more, queue can be its own topic. So we can remove queue.
00:36:59
Speaker
on It's the transition from queue into station. Exactly. Yeah. um Yeah, there are some definitely some good ones.
00:37:10
Speaker
um What else do I have on my list? um
00:37:16
Speaker
In terms of just like really cool vibes and lighting. Oh, I just thought of another one too. um Colossus at Heidi Park is one. How everything is like burnt or something i think if i remember right and there's like woody and lights and i i'm sure i have a picture of it somewhere that one was cool and then uh nemesis and conda are both like very very well themed yeah those are ones that i cannot comment on i'm not sure i did not have a picture of the nemesis one i did not take one i don't know how yeah i've heard that nemesis is like top
00:37:57
Speaker
Yeah, it was really cool. Yeah. um
00:38:04
Speaker
I do have American, well, kind of one at least American one to give a little bit of credit. um Some of the Batman in the Ride stations are actually really well done. And like over Georgia has put a little bit more investment into theirs and they got like some of the like fog coming back and the lights and the whole Batcave feeling.
00:38:28
Speaker
Yeah. I have seen I've only seen like three Batmans but one of them I have seen that was like pretty well themed. um i can I can agree with that. Some of them do look very nice.
00:38:44
Speaker
um Yeah. I'm trying to think of like specifically US coasters. I think Penguin Track is done penguin track is done very well.
00:38:57
Speaker
Um, but I think that some of the, um, and this is, like, similar for European parks as well, but, like, I do feel like in the States when you get to the actual station, every, it's just,
00:39:16
Speaker
um, I don't want to say, like, it's just theming and decor that changes things, because, like, obviously, but, um,
00:39:27
Speaker
It's just like small theming. Like Penguin Treks. They just like throw some Trekkie. And our Antarctica looking. Backpacks all over the place.
00:39:38
Speaker
Yeah. oh Adventure Express is a good one. It's not a lot. But they have a lot of Easter eggs in there. You you know. There's like references to Son of Beast in there. And just a bunch of the other coasters. And there's all this like travel theming.
00:39:57
Speaker
again it's not like yeah i almost said insane hi nate um it's not like super incredible in-depth theming but at least they try yeah
00:40:12
Speaker
i'm literally looking through like my top coasters list and i'm like are any of these like comparable at all no No, it's like, this is something I wish Parks did a lot better. Like, some of them do theming really well. And even if they do theming really well, like, the station is pretty um lackluster. um I do you always want to shout out the um Big Thunder Mountains, like, and Expedition Everest. Like, those are always themed very well.
00:40:44
Speaker
um Especially Expedition Everest. So, yeah. I know we're not like a disney Disney account, but for anyone that doesn't know the lore, Expedition Everest, like the Imagineers spent like years researching that, like boots on the ground in um somewhere in Asia. um And a lot of that theming comes directly from that. And that carries through to the station.
00:41:13
Speaker
The station is really well done.
00:41:17
Speaker
like I'm kind of going through my list and I'm like, what I'm kind of realizing about American parks is like they'll put theming in the queue and they'll kind of build that story and then you get to the station and then there's just like nothing.
00:41:29
Speaker
Yeah, and then it's just you're getting on a roller coaster and you're losing that. Cobra's Curse is one that I think of. like There's so much theming throughout that queue and then you get to the station and it's just like, alright, here it is.
00:41:41
Speaker
Yeah, that's a perfect example. Um...
00:41:48
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yeah I'm yeah scrolling through my list right now. It's something that I wish that like if you're putting all of this level into theming, like it it's just it's very sad to see you get to the end, get to the station. and Arguably, the station is the most important part.
00:42:05
Speaker
ah and just that's three You can build so much hype. yeah and just Like Wom said, like fully set the tone for what your writers are about to experience.
00:42:18
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. oh that Never mind. Never mind, because I started to think about one and then I was like, this is Q. It's Q. Which one, out of curiosity?
00:42:33
Speaker
Gringotts, Journey, any of the Harry Potter attractions. um
00:42:43
Speaker
Dollywood does pretty good at kind of keeping some theme into the station. Oh, Fire Chaser Express is a good one. Oh, that's such an interesting station too. That station. Okay, that's one we can talk about. Yeah, that's a US-based one we can really talk about. the They do an incredible job keeping the theming going um into that station.
00:43:04
Speaker
They reminded me of another coaster too, but we'll continue Fire Chaser. um But just, it's so different, like having the train come up and then just stop. Like the track just stops because you come in backwards. Yeah.
00:43:16
Speaker
And then you leave it forward. And that's just so different. Yeah. It's very unique. So you're already looking at that. I do think that that gives them more freedom to theme it um a lot more. Because they have that entire back wall. They have the back area um that no other coaster really has. so Yeah, and the, um if I remember correctly, they're kind of themed in there, like the cubbies or the lockers for the fire.
00:43:47
Speaker
i think so. ti Yeah, which is a really unique take for that. um It's something that, like, I don't think most people, when they think firefighters, think about their gear sitting and hanging in a in a cubby.
00:44:00
Speaker
um So it's a unique take for it.
00:44:07
Speaker
Definitely, and I think they do that very well. um Another one at Dollywood, the ride isn't the best, but a Mystery Mine kind of keeps a lot of the vibes going into the station.
00:44:17
Speaker
Yeah, it feels spooky in there. um And the ride ops tend to have a lot of fun with it. Yeah. That one they do really well. I also think that that's one of the better rides at Dollywood. I think that that... i don't know. it It has... Really good. It's quarks, I'll say.
00:44:37
Speaker
It has its qua quarks, but I just think that... To me, it feels like the most complete experience outside of Fire Chaser Express. um But Fire Chaser Express made me think of um Mr. Freeze Rides.
00:44:55
Speaker
Oh, those are... I forgot about those. That's more like engineering than anything, but like the sliding... the track yeah but they do theme the area to make it feel more like industrial kind of industrial yeah like like i think it's so cool to like the bins travel with you on the station or on the track and then you launch right out of the station which is always fun to watch yeah and you can still load both sides like it's it's so smart
00:45:29
Speaker
I forgot about those. They're so good. Yeah. That one's a one. Backwards launch out of the station is fantastic.
00:45:48
Speaker
I know the station isn't very good. The station is actually one of the least, my least favorite stations. um However, The soundtrack to me just keeps the hype super high.
00:46:00
Speaker
Um, Euromir, like i have the best time in the Euromir station and that station's awful. Like even the grouping is like, they group it by like each gate gets the front and back of a car. So it's very confusing. yeah.
00:46:18
Speaker
And no one understands it. Everyone ends up very confused. But everyone is dancing to that song. The entire time. oh yeah. um I forgot what i was just going to say. oh One that like I was hoping I would be really, really hyped for.
00:46:38
Speaker
But I ended up not being hyped. And it's very ironic considering it's a coaster I talked a lot about already on this episode. And that's Helix. It's a very bare bones station.
00:46:50
Speaker
And like it has the soundtrack playing and I was so excited for that and I was dancing to that the whole time. But the station is a little lackluster, minus the view out the front of the station where there's just a drop.
00:47:05
Speaker
Yeah, that's upsetting. Yeah.
00:47:10
Speaker
Yeah. That's how I thought about the chicken coaster. had so much hype around the chicken coaster as a whole, and I expected, like, a little bit of theming going into the station. And I was just like, I'm in a shed. i was just going to mention another one. Oh, you know what what coaster is ah surprising that I have not mentioned because...
00:47:33
Speaker
The station really isn't like massively amazing. Taryn. Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. Very boring station. Like, it's not boring. It's just like there. Exciting.
00:47:48
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, um the excitement comes from that it's Taryn. And I love it. And the soundtrack because the music. so Obviously, i love the soundtrack. Yeah. Yeah, no, I agree with that one. I thought about that one too. I was like, I can't talk about Taryn on here because it's just not a very good station in my opinion. It's it's still a phenomenal ride.
00:48:13
Speaker
Yeah, still a fantastic ride, but just not a good station. I'm
00:48:21
Speaker
still going through my list trying to think of some other ones that are just exceptional, especially like There's so few U.S. coasters for us to talk about with this, with the positive side of this.
00:48:33
Speaker
Yeah, it's I think that's what makes this one so hard is that like we truly don't have that many that are that good here in the States.
00:48:43
Speaker
And then it's also like generally the theming, like the design that they have tends to work. So it's not like people are redoing the design of a station to make them more efficient. Like typically it's not, in my opinion, typically it's not the design of the station that makes it efficient. It's the care and the competency of the ride queue.
00:49:12
Speaker
Ride queue, ride crew. I can think one instance where like a station was rejuvenated. Not necessarily for like efficiency.
00:49:24
Speaker
And somebody mentioned this too. And I really wish they would fix the efficiency of it. Oh shoot. Who was it? Who said it?
00:49:39
Speaker
Why can I not find it? Oh, there we go. um Chris Leonard. Least favorite station has to be Skyrush. Um, the fact that you exit the same side you enter causes so much hassle that even fast operations still make the previous train wait a long time on the brake run.
00:49:53
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. Um, that's such poor design, but like the painting that they did, like when they got the new restraints on the trains and they like just did a whole big refresh in the station. It looks really nice. They added some more theming there with like the airplane vibes and yeah.
00:50:13
Speaker
take off and stuff but god that flow is terrible yeah you still have to exit and enter the same exact way that you came which is just extremely confusing um
00:50:25
Speaker
i guess yeah transitioned into like our least favorite station yeah because i unfortunately i do think that especially again here in the states um We don't do a fantastic job of theming. um And if we do an okay job of theming, then we don't do a very good job of carrying that through to the queue.
Reflections on Station Design
00:50:49
Speaker
um And it doesn't need to be simple. um I'm going to go into another comment. um Brayden says Velocicoaster has one of the coolest stations. While it is a bit sterile with their streaks of blue throughout the, the streaks of blue throughout the design look great. And then the massive windows looking out on the paddock make up for it. So that's a perfect example where the, the station is, you know,
00:51:13
Speaker
If you've not been on it, the station is incredibly bland. It's sterile. Um, not much going on at all. Um, I don't even remember there being streaks of blue other than the train coming in.
00:51:29
Speaker
Oh, maybe on the little screens. Um, when you're getting on on that side. Um, But the paddock with with the theming of the ride, that big open window of the paddock where you can see the train is just so intimidating that they took this da yeah they took this station that was very sterile and boring and very quickly made it intimidating and um
00:52:01
Speaker
just overall larger um by adding that window. Mm-hmm. You know what station kind of similarly could have done something like that, and I'm really sad that they didn't?
00:52:16
Speaker
It's Top Thrill 2. Like, they have, like, the big logo or whatever on the wall, I think. Put glass there. Let people see that train flying by. Yeah.
00:52:29
Speaker
Yeah, i I agreed with that when I first wrote it. I was really upset that you couldn't see... anything yeah not from anywhere near like i felt just like in the dark um
00:52:49
Speaker
which is really unfortunate um i actually i'm gonna mention one more that i really love and um this one the theming wasn't fantastic But in its prime, the King to Kyle station running all... I don't even know if it ever run ran all four. But... The... the Just pure electricity when there were more than the one side running in that area.
00:53:22
Speaker
um It was unmatched. Like, it didn't need the theming. It didn't need, like... It was just electric from the people that were all in there, all getting on at the same time.
00:53:36
Speaker
um I feel like those that hype and that vibe from other people that were actively getting on the ride just made the hype of the whole entire area higher. um You don't really get to experience that on a lot of coasters because at most you have two loading stations.
00:53:53
Speaker
I don't know anything with more than that. um But the four... is just the four was unmatched.
00:54:04
Speaker
Efficient, for sure. Definitely efficient. um
00:54:10
Speaker
But just like, I don't know, it like added a whole different level of vibes. Again, I don't know if they ever ran the four. I do remember at one point maybe them running three.
00:54:21
Speaker
at one point in my life, I feel like I remember that, but I just remember that hustle and bustle in that whole area. It was like, and everyone getting off in the same, like, oh, it was just so good.
00:54:33
Speaker
And then like, even um that little walkway, how you kind of go over the station and you can look back into the station when you're exiting. Yeah. That was cool too. You could say hi to friends and stuff.
00:54:44
Speaker
Yeah. That station with another perfect example where um theming and intricacy doesn't have to be there. um
00:54:58
Speaker
It doesn't have to be there. They just took something so simple and where they were able to design it in a way to make it much larger than life. yeah For a larger than life coaster.
00:55:11
Speaker
Exactly. For a coaster that, in my opinion, very much deserved it.
00:55:18
Speaker
Yeah. Alright. One other... i guess before we get too much into the... Not necessarily negatives. Critiques that we have. um Let's see. um Ethan... ah Some stations that come to mind when you say most memorable are Poltergeist.
00:55:40
Speaker
That's a good American one we didn't mention. um Escape from Gringotts, Dark Coaster, Nemesis Reborn, and Vampire. I didn't even think about Poltergeist and like the time and investment they put into that ride.
00:55:52
Speaker
I do not remember. That's it over Texas, right? Uh, Fiesta. Oh, okay. That's why I don't know it. Okay. They put a lot of investment into that and it's like, it, it feels like you're in a haunted house. yeah that's certainly It's really, really well done.
00:56:11
Speaker
Yeah. I do think dark coaster, um, Dark Coaster definitely deserves a mention too. i I think that they did a really good job with that station. um A lot of castle vibes in there.
00:56:28
Speaker
I'm going to grab Books and Roller Coaster's comment. um Vleek and the Hollander, the Flying Dutchman at Efteling, is definitely favorite.
00:56:40
Speaker
There's a reason I let you read that one Yeah. um That queue unmatched. um It feels like you, or not queue, sorry, the station. It feels like you open up into like a whole entire...
00:56:58
Speaker
town in the middle of the night like they make it where it's like you you feel like you're walking out of a bar in the middle of the night in an old dutch town it's done so well um i was really impressed by that one like completely shocked um and she also we have a couple mentions in here um for fly yeah So real quick, I do want to say how awesome was Anne as a guest?
00:57:30
Speaker
That was so fun. Yeah, um I agree. i loved having her on. I loved hearing her talk about her books and her ideas. Yeah, make sure to go follow her. Go back and listen to episode if you haven't. It was very interesting.
00:57:45
Speaker
We had a lot of really good conversation about like story at theme parks. Yeah. More so than just like physical books at theme parks. Yeah.
00:57:55
Speaker
Yeah, it was a very good one. Go back and listen and follow Anne. Yes. ah So I'm going through highlighting comments that we've already talked about. Yeah.
00:58:07
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Yeah, definitely. um Anna mentioned I love the mystery of fly. um Chris said favorite station is fly just because of how unique it is and how efficient it really is for a flying coaster.
00:58:18
Speaker
It truly is. Jen, I feel so bad you haven't seen it in person. i know. i Now that I have tasted new Vekoma, it makes me really sad. I haven't experienced it. um I think that This is news to Joey. Joey, I hope i hope you're listening. um I think that I'm going to try and convince Joey to go to Fantasialand on our way home from the Netherlands. Yes. um Next year so I can ride it.
00:58:51
Speaker
i don't know if I can go. Even if it means giving up Toverland, I'm not giving up Efteling. How could you? I'll go to Efteling 6,000 times. it It'll be her new Europa.
00:59:05
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it it it's close. It's, yeah. If you guys don't know, I'm a huge theming person. just I would rather have theming every day except for that. And, like, I would lose coasters for theming every day.
00:59:21
Speaker
Yeah, so. What else we got in here? there um Kelly also mentioned Ride to Happiness. I was bummed because, like, whatever, like
00:59:37
Speaker
I don't even know what that is Creature face thing in the station that like talks to you or whatever was not working when we' were there. So we didn't get like the full effect of that station.
00:59:50
Speaker
Yeah. I had no idea that existed. And I, I think it's all in. Oh, bless you. I'll be Jesus. Um, it's ride to happiness, right?
01:00:02
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Yeah. So I think it would be in Dutch.
01:00:07
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Something. I don't know. Point is, I'm in English and I don't know, like, what it actually says or what it's meant to say because I also didn't see it in person. Yeah. I think it would be in either French or Dutch because... Or, like, Flemish Dutch. Yeah. um I mean, like, the music is cool because Ride to Happiness. But, yeah, I'm bummed I didn't get the full effect of that station.
01:00:30
Speaker
It was just an off day for that ride in general. It was very cold and very windy, so I don't have it ranked as highly as... a Some other people I know.
01:00:40
Speaker
Yeah. i ah That's like my... My biggest...
01:00:48
Speaker
Um... That's my biggest... Um... Like, bucket list ride at the moment. Um... Kelly also said, love the loose article, Sitch, on Yukon Striker and now Wrath.
01:01:01
Speaker
Um... Alpenfury as well has that same system.
01:01:06
Speaker
Um... With like the little moving the cubbies that move with your train basically at the same range of the train. I did discover a way that it's not always great and that's if you put your stuff in a bin and then like you get called forward to a train ahead of you and then you're kind of just stuck there waiting for your stuff to get to you afterwards.
01:01:29
Speaker
Oh, that's annoying. Because I was like, oh, cool. i can I can get a picture of our friends coming back into the station. They were on the train behind us. my My stuff is still in the cubby that's up above our heads right now.
01:01:39
Speaker
oh Oh, man. That stinks.
01:01:44
Speaker
That would really stink. Yeah. So we're just kind of like sitting there awkwardly waiting. We're like, yeah, sorry. We got sent to a train ahead and our stuff isn't here yet.
01:01:57
Speaker
But aside from that, it's really cool. But I think pass-through lockers are just a lot more efficient. Yeah. Ultimately, I think that those are, like, the way to go. Yeah. Or you could be, like, Europe and, like, Taryn, where you have, like, those pass-through kind of lockers or cubbies or whatever in the station.
01:02:18
Speaker
Yeah. like I can see that slowing down the station, though, like, significantly. literally, yeah. Any time that you have to, like, cross a train to put stuff in a cubby is always awkward. and yeah Especially, like, um I think about, like, Voyage, where, like, people are getting off and getting their stuff, and then the next group of riders is coming on and trying to get their stuff and trying to, like, swim upstream to get to the cubbies. and Yeah. That's how, like...
01:02:47
Speaker
at Europa Park Woden it is, it feels like a bloodbath. Like, you are, like, fighting for your life to get to the cubby on the other side. And just I know it's, like, the norm, because there's really no better way to do it without pass-through lockers, but.
01:03:04
Speaker
Yeah. But I think pass-through lockers, like, I just think that we're At this point at a time that I don't think anything shouldn't have past walkers. Top throw.
01:03:18
Speaker
Yeah. Like, I really understand, like, when a ride was made and, like, the mid 2000s and earlier, like people typically didn't have things that were super high value on them. They didn't carry like, but now people are carrying $1,500 cell phones in their hand. They're carrying cameras. They're carrying like, there's just like way more electronic wise that are carried. um And just giving someone a place to safely keep them, I think is really important. And I think it's crazy that
01:03:53
Speaker
It's not a thing. And like, especially in the age, and we're getting past like station design here, but like in the age of um just like influencers and TikToks and people taking their phones out on rides because they're not required to put them in any kind of locker or anything.
01:04:11
Speaker
So dangerous. But yeah, when you provide in station or right before the station, free lockers, you have no excuse. Yeah, because I also don't agree with outside this Again, we're getting off topic. I also don't, like, I truly, to the bottom of my heart, do not agree, as a solo traveler a lot of the time, with outside-of-the-line um lockers. Because as a female traveling by myself a lot, um quite frankly, I think it's dangerous. Yeah.
01:04:48
Speaker
I think that if anything were to happen in that queue and they're like, you're, so you're stuck, you have no yeah help. You have no access to the outside world. You're stuck in that queue. If someone is harassing you, if someone is making you feel uncomfortable, you're stuck in that situation with no way to get away from it without removing yourself from the line. Um,
01:05:15
Speaker
as As someone I have panic attacks and lines, you're asking me to sit in my in that line by myself with no, just sitting in overstimulation.
01:05:28
Speaker
so And then like, there's such a focus in parks on like, you know, tech security to report line jumping. Well, I can't do that. Exactly. like Sure, i i will text security if I need help. I'll text security if people are line jumping.
01:05:42
Speaker
But you made me put my phone away an hour and a half ago outside of Top Thrill 2. Like, it's, yeah, that I will always have that rant forever. I think that it's such poor practice.
01:05:56
Speaker
And again, quite frankly, unsafe for some individuals to take away their electronics. There's like even i think of like RMCs, the ones that have like the little zipper pouch on the train in front of you, preferably in front of you. The ones under the seat, I always panic. I haven't actually zipped it. um But just a quick little addition that just helps that safety and efficiency. Yeah.
01:06:25
Speaker
But. Yeah. Yeah.
01:06:30
Speaker
Yeah, i do see at Iron Gwazi, them getting rid of that pouch was probably the best thing they ever did. um Efficiency wise, because people were getting so caught up on it. However, I don't agree with them getting rid of it because I... Now they have the required lockers and... Yes.
01:06:49
Speaker
Oh, that's another... So... um Another gripe, but... Yeah, it's just a really... It's one of those things that are really difficult. it's ah It's a really difficult topic because there's a lot of reasons why you shouldn't have your phone in the queue. There's a lot of reasons why you shouldn't have your phone on an attraction. But in the world that we live in today, there's a lot of reasons that you need it.
01:07:11
Speaker
um I agree. like And I didn't even get into some of the scariest things, like like what if and you need your phone. yeah so All right. Well, on from that topic.
01:07:29
Speaker
We'd have a couple other ah positive ones. Let's see. ethan most efficient stations are easily ones that use single rider lines to their advantage, making sure every seat is taken. Hi, Voltron.
01:07:40
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um Which rides like Hyperia, Velocicoaster, and Hagrid do really well. Yeah. I could agree with that. um Shout out to the efficiency of the Hyperia crew who... um Broke their hour record for most dispatches during our ERT because they were so into it and so quick while still being very safe about everything.
01:08:05
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It was awesome. Ops make a huge difference in station design in a way. Yeah. Yeah. can say the ops are upset and they don't want to be there and they're moving slowly and you have everything else right, it's not going to be good.
01:08:22
Speaker
um they They have such a huge influence on how you leave that station. um I was actually on Mako when they were doing those 17 second dispatch trains. Jeez. um I have never had an experience in a park like that ever.
01:08:40
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um
01:08:43
Speaker
I still think about not only like the feeling in the station, but like I was so genuinely engulfed in the excitement.
01:08:57
Speaker
it can it changed
01:09:01
Speaker
It changed like most of my view on Mako. I instantly forgot about any bad experience that I've ever had on Mako. And that's solely due to crew that was just...
01:09:13
Speaker
They were happy to be there. They loved being there. They knew their audience. They knew they had almost, ah they had a bunch of enthusiasts in the train so they could really go for it. And they would, I remember they were coming, as we were coming into the station, they were like, sit down, sit down, sit down. Don't stand up. Don't stand up. And they're like, and they just went, popped everything open, put down all the, like checked all the restraints and it was off.
01:09:40
Speaker
I love it. And I remember that. Like, I will never forget. That, it might be one of my top ride experiences ever. Just from how electric it was.
01:09:55
Speaker
The energy is everything. Yeah. At one point, they had our train ready to go before the other train even left the lift hill. Wow. Like, we were waiting for a block zone. And on a B&M Hyper, that's like... That's a lot of... impressive That's a lot of people on that train.
01:10:13
Speaker
Yeah. So we were like waiting. They weren't even cleared to dispatch yet. They were just sitting and waiting. It's kind of like on Voyage when they're able to cross trains like that.
01:10:26
Speaker
That's always fun. It's just such a game-changing environment. Yeah. In all of this, we've talked a lot about theming. We've talked a lot about...
01:10:37
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um like design but i think one of the most important takeaways is the actual crew yeah when the crew wants to be there you want to be there yeah and when they don't want to be there it can kill the vibe so quickly yeah it doesn't matter how nice the queue is it's yeah the station is you're it'll yeah yes we love our good ride crews Yes, we do. I think we have another... none I think. um
01:11:11
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if We do have... I'm actually going to take... I wasn't going to read this one, um but I am going to take this one because it makes me giggle. um Scrooge says, does desire disaster transport count?
01:11:22
Speaker
The station was pretty basic. LOL. um I don't remember... anything about disaster transport. I actually don't remember anything about my first trip to Cedar Point other than I was in the park for less than an hour and the power went out and then we played with wheelchair in the parking lot for hours. Oh, geez.
01:11:44
Speaker
um But i haven't thought about that trip in years and years and years. And like when I first became an enthusiast, um I was telling the story and of course no one believed me except for Laurel. Shout out to Laurel because...
01:11:58
Speaker
As an Ohio person, she does remember the Great Northeast Blackout. um No one believed me, but then I was like, I was in this queue. I do remember. The only thing I remember is that I was in this really glow-in-the-dark, spacey queue.
01:12:17
Speaker
And I was like next to get on the train and there was just glow in the dark stars and planets and all of that. And without a doubt, every single person can tell me that I was in disaster transport. I didn't know I was in disaster transport, but every single other person I talked to was able to tell me that I was in the disaster transport queue.
01:12:36
Speaker
That's funny. So was in disaster transport. I know I did. I have it on my list. Zero recollection of the ride outside of like a little bit of queue theming.
01:12:48
Speaker
Could not tell you anything about the station. Yeah. I remember the station that this happened in 2003 before my birthday. So I would have been
01:13:00
Speaker
six, maybe seven. and I first wrote it in 2004. So i was right. I was right there after you. Yeah, it's crazy. So I really like this comment because I can't comment from experience about this queue. But I do know that the station was themed well enough that I remember it from when I was six years old and did not get to ride it.
01:13:29
Speaker
um cedar kev also mentioned millennium four station will always be iconic for me the music and vibes are chef's kiss emoji or whatever the yeah okay whatever it is i actually kind of have millennium force on my one of ones that could be improved because just i don't know the vibes aren't it for me a music is cool but i feel like they could do more
01:13:54
Speaker
I feel like for me, this one's really hard because I sit in the middle. I love the music. And once I'm in the station, i feel like the vibes are there. But when I waited over an hour in that same e exact straight stretch to get to the station, immediately my vibe is destroyed. Like if that, with the experience of waiting in that straightaway, staring at the station for that long,
01:14:25
Speaker
I need to get to a station that's much bigger. Yeah. I have lost all of my excitement. I have pictures of me sitting in that queue, like on the ground where I look like I just want to die.
01:14:35
Speaker
Like, I'm just looking up at the camera like my day is destroyed in that queue. So like, by the time I get to the station, there's no recovering from that.
01:14:48
Speaker
don't know. I just feel like they can do more. Yeah. And get rid of bugs in there because holy crap. what I know that's not possible for Cedar Point. don't think that's happening, but.
01:15:00
Speaker
It just adds to the ambiance, right? Yeah.
01:15:06
Speaker
Yeah. Let's see. Caitlin did not elaborate much, but she said, I don't know why, but mummy and then Rebolton. I can give Mummy. The theming in there is really good.
01:15:19
Speaker
It's been a while since I've been on Mummy. i don't really remember it very well. I remember being kind of ominous. It is very, like... It's pretty basic, but I think they do a really good job of still making you feel like you're in the tomb.
01:15:34
Speaker
Um... So... That's pretty cool. I will agree Verbolten. For sure. I think Verbolten is a fantastic station. Mm-hmm.
01:15:47
Speaker
I also just love the, uh, Auf Wiedersehen. Auf Wiedersehen.
01:15:55
Speaker
ah Yeah. That's like my favorite part of that station. It's so good. I just like every time I go into that station, I notice something different. Um, yeah. The last time I was there, Joey, i I was making, so it's centered in the Black Forest and Europa Park is like,
01:16:15
Speaker
The next closest like German city slash village is Freiburg, which is like the entrance to the Black Forest. And so a lot of the posters leading up to that are for Freiburg, which is the closest ok little city to Rust. Um, so Joey was very excited going through that queue and then he was like translating all of these things and he like, he lives 20 minutes from this place so he was very excited. So then like, he was reading all the posters and translating them into English so it was really fun.
01:16:47
Speaker
Like, they're just such fun little Easter eggs. Um, and every time I go into that station I notice something different that's like hung up that's
01:16:59
Speaker
Easter egg-y. Like, I don't know how else to call it.
01:17:04
Speaker
Yeah, he probably got a lot more out of that station than the average guest. Yeah. Because of those ties. Yeah, he really enjoyed it. he He gets really excited when he's like, yeah.
01:17:15
Speaker
He gets really excited when he sees things that are like close to him or related to him. Like he's, yeah. So, um yeah, like one that, the first time I ever mentioned Strope Waffles to him, he's like, they're Dutch, they're Dutch! And he's so excited.
01:17:32
Speaker
Oh, that just reminded me I have some of those. Oh, jealous. I do not have any. I mean, they're just like the generic imported ones or whatever. Dale Man or something. Yeah, but still fantastic. I don't know. I'm going to Stroopwafel.
01:17:47
Speaker
I love a Stroopwafel. Oh, maybe that. Okay. I just had an idea for something. um
01:17:55
Speaker
I need to write that down. Hold on. Completely unrelated to like anything coasters, but
01:18:08
Speaker
Yeah.
01:18:11
Speaker
We have a very quiet chicken today. was going to say, my little chicken is always quiet. so um Nemi does not, not Nemi, Alpi does not have much of a voice yet.
01:18:25
Speaker
He can meow. He just chooses not to, I guess. He does these silent meows all the time. So anytime I actually hear him meow, I'm like, oh my gosh, he speaks.
01:18:36
Speaker
He's yelling at me. and it's like just this cutest little squeak. Because you know he's what eight weeks old or whatever. But okay. I got my note written down.
01:18:47
Speaker
I will tell you about that later. um
01:18:53
Speaker
So one. I do have a few on here. of ones that I just ah don't like. um
01:19:02
Speaker
Anything that has an open roof station. Why? Why? Patriot and Emperor. Both suck for that.
01:19:16
Speaker
Yeah, I can't imagine that that would be a comfortable experience. And, like, I put it on there for, like, for the sake of both the guests and the employees. Like, I feel so bad for these employees in California who have to stand in this heat when there should be...
01:19:33
Speaker
some kind of shade or something. Like, yeah what is the point of an open station? There is absolutely no point. And, like, for Emperor... Sorry, I'm getting heated now. Ironically, on an ice-themed one. um It's a coaster that's themed to, like, Emperor Penguins and, like, ice. And it's just, like, this hot open station with no theming.
01:19:53
Speaker
And just, why? Yeah. It's not, like... it's It's not feasible for anyone. Like... you're standing in the sun, like waiting in that seat, standing in the sun, but also like the trains, if they're sitting there for a little bit, get really high. Yeah. Like if you're, you know, like if you're on a break run or whatever, waiting for a train in the station to dispatch and you're going be sun and it's just uncomfortable, but then why add the station to that?
01:20:19
Speaker
Yeah. It doesn't. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. I think open stations are. Yeah. Like why?
01:20:30
Speaker
There's no benefit to that. Please, somebody, if there is a benefit to an open station, please comment and tell me. Help me see the light, because I don't. Yeah, because I even feel like you don't really have shelter. Like, if if it starts, like, pouring rain you and you have to shut down your coaster, like, typically they're in a closed station. So it's like you don't have to worry about the train staying very wet or covered with water and then throwing guests onto it.
01:21:01
Speaker
Like... just covered. I don't want understand. Yeah. i don't know. um Another one on my list. Legend at Holiday World.
01:21:13
Speaker
In terms of efficiency. Of how you enter that station. At the very back. And it just bottlenecks so hard. Yeah. It's such poor design.
Evolution of Coaster Designs
01:21:26
Speaker
Yeah. I could see that. um you You haven't been on it. but well I've heard terrible things though. It's. i I don't know. It's just organized very poorly.
01:21:38
Speaker
And I'm sure there was some kind of like space constraints and it's an older coaster whatever. don't even know when, when it opened, but it's not a modern coaster
01:21:49
Speaker
where they think more about that, but.
01:21:53
Speaker
Yeah, I think that makes it a lot too. I do think that, um, we especially see changes when like safety precautions really first started to come into the play. Um,
01:22:04
Speaker
like you could tell that a lot of, a lot of places like needed time to adjust to that. And the first tries are not necessarily great. Yeah. Um, yeah, absolutely.
01:22:21
Speaker
feel like any invert us based, I will us based any invert can be added to this list. Um,
01:22:35
Speaker
I think the design of those stations is just... I mean, 90% them are just, like, copied and pasted. Yeah, like they're all very bare bones. They're all copied and pasted, bare bones. You walk up a giant... Not even walk up, you wait on this giant staircase in the blazing heat.
01:22:52
Speaker
Like, no shade. And then you get into the station to this, like, empty station. And then because it's an invert, the ops are always...
01:23:05
Speaker
forever yeah sitting in that station for so long um it's like my one bad thing i really say about inverts i don't know of a invert in the u.s that makes the station experience good
Operational Efficiency and Engagement
01:23:22
Speaker
batman but that's really about it i can't yeah theming wise but i still think that i yeah they do better than the rest of them i will give and it's some of the batmans not all of them Yeah. um
01:23:40
Speaker
Yeah, I'm trying to think of any other invert that sticks in my head.
01:23:48
Speaker
I've been on all of them in the U.S. I know that. So. Yeah. um My one other note I have on here is specifically in the U.S. Once again, it's always U.S.,
01:24:03
Speaker
the spieling that ops do and just like constantly talking into the microphone over the station. I'm like, just, just please stop. You don't have to do this. so I was thinking about this too, because I will say that sometimes when you have an op that is like really enjoying it and having a good time, it can be really fun.
01:24:26
Speaker
But i was thinking about like Cedar Point. Do they still give a ride up like ah a headset to just like walk around the station just like spieling? mean, usually they're doing it while checking their strengths. So they have kind of that. Okay.
01:24:41
Speaker
I feel like it's one thing when you're, like, sitting in the control booth and spilling to people, but i I feel like it's a whole different level when you're walking around checking restraints and, like... If they have fun with it, like, a lot of like a lot of them on Maverick, I think, seem to have fun with it.
01:24:59
Speaker
But the ones who are just constantly, like... You know, push down, pull up, push down, pull up. Don't touch the lap bar. Seatbelt first, then lap bar. Don't touch your lap bar. All this stuff just constantly. I'm like, it's not necessary. I mean, maybe it is. And like, i don't know if it's like an IROC thing. I don't even know.
01:25:18
Speaker
But it's just so prevalent. It's just sensory overload. Yeah, I have seen once or twice where like they've clearly been having a lot of fun. There's a lot of jokes. They're still saying what they need to say. And then I think it's fine. But then it's it's the fact that there's someone like that all the time. And there are people who clearly don't like doing it.
01:25:35
Speaker
Yeah. um And then they're just feeling very like official things. And then it just feels like overkill. I'm like, when you go to Europe, like that's ah such a thing I noticed when I went to Europe for the first time. I'm like, it's so quiet.
01:25:52
Speaker
I don't feel like I'm being berated for riding a roller coaster. They're, like, barely talking to you.
01:26:00
Speaker
um I don't know. But those are my things that I wish could be better about stations. Oh, and actually using dual stations when you have them. Oh, yeah.
01:26:12
Speaker
I... I feel like having a dual station and not using it is just some of the silliest things. Like, even if, like... Cheetah Hunt sometimes will use the front station to load and the back station to unload. That's even better than just not using it altogether.
01:26:30
Speaker
i like I get it if you don't have enough people to to run both of them. like Maybe people call out. like Things happen, I get it. But the um like it just completely destroys your efficiency.
01:26:49
Speaker
Just completely turning that station off.
01:26:54
Speaker
Yeah. Like the Superman ones, suspect like the flying ones. Oh, yeah. And just like, I remember riding Ultimate Flight and over Georgia opening year and they used the dual stations and it was really cool. I loved it.
01:27:08
Speaker
yeah Yeah. I don't even think I knew that had dual stations. I don't think the one at Great Adventure does. don't know. Does Manta?
01:27:21
Speaker
I don't know if Manta does. cause i don't I don't know i don't know if I've ever seen the dual station.
01:27:27
Speaker
ah um I know air had it or air Galactica or whatever it is now at Alton Towers. don't
01:27:37
Speaker
know if it says it on RCDB if it has a dual. No, Manta does have a dual station. I don't know if I've ever seen that run or just never noticed it. um I would not have known that information.
01:27:52
Speaker
great I've also only ridden that coaster like three times. I really don't enjoy it. It does not say that Great Adventures has a dual station. Yeah, I don't think Great Adventures... the Great Adventures I've ridden enough that I think I would have known.
01:28:05
Speaker
But Mantis, I don't. Flying coasters just ah really aren't my favorite. Okay. Over Georgia it does say dual station. Yeah.
01:28:16
Speaker
Um... Oh, that's the wrong one.
01:28:23
Speaker
Where's the last one? Is that is it a Great America? Yeah, Great America. And that one does not have a dual station. Okay, so two do... you don Interesting. I did not know that. So I've never... I mean, Manta I have, but I don't know. Maybe they don't operate it and I just never noticed it.
01:28:40
Speaker
Tatsu also has a dual station. ah Maybe they were running that one way there? i don't remember. Yeah, don't know. Anyway. Uh...
01:28:52
Speaker
um Mom has another good point here. um I love it when it doesn't take forever to walk from the midway to from the station, cough, American Eagle. Yeah.
01:29:03
Speaker
and That's not really a station thing, but I get it. Yeah, but it does, if we're talking about the station experience, experience it it does. It's not fun to be exhausted when you get to the station.
01:29:16
Speaker
By the time you get to the experience and to the station in that point it's not very nice yeah or just like the super long queues like zadra hyperion there's a two i think of mostly when it comes to long queues getting to the bat that's another one as someone who got to walk onto ministry twice yeah like that queue when you're not waiting in it might be one of the longest queues i've ever had to walk through yeah
01:29:52
Speaker
It's pretty, though. It's really gorgeous. It's really gorgeous. and' I'm not going to give any spoilers, but um it is incredible. The queue is fantastic. But I almost hated walking through it because I wanted to look.
01:30:06
Speaker
Yeah, that was kind of how I felt on my recent visit. We ended waiting like an hour for ministry. And I'm like, oh, I actually get to see the queue this time. Yeah. Walking through it. appreciate those details more. Yeah. Yeah.
Memorable Coaster Experiences
01:30:21
Speaker
One of our friends, um, the the vehicle, he got to literally Zen ride. and He was the single only person in it.
01:30:32
Speaker
That must have been cool. Yeah, we we got a, um, he ended up buying it for himself, but we were all like, we we're purchasing his ride photo, right? Like, now it's the background in our group.
01:30:44
Speaker
Oh, right. That's great. Just in ministry by himself. That's awesome. Um, Yeah, it's very funny. um I have no idea how that happened, but very interesting.
01:30:56
Speaker
um Another one from Lom. This one, a very valid point. I recently rode Pantheon and the lack of any sounds or enthusiasm from the park between the rides.
01:31:11
Speaker
Between rides besides the dumb harness, the speed and power spiel really takes away from the excitement of riding the ride. Yeah. I agree.
01:31:23
Speaker
There's just not much to that station. Just that ride in general, they could have done so much. With like, the streaming and the queue and the station.
01:31:34
Speaker
and the ride is fantastic, but like, if they put that time and effort in and money a little bit, it could have been so much better. Yeah, that is probably up there as like one of the worst...
01:31:50
Speaker
stations in my opinion. um It just has nothing like at all. Yeah.
01:32:03
Speaker
It's very unfortunate. Yeah.
01:32:07
Speaker
is Especially coming from like, this does kind of upset me. How do you go from verboten to Pantheon?
01:32:20
Speaker
Yeah. Like, how are they coming from the same park? It just is wild to me. And then obviously they learned from their mistake because look at Dark Coaster.
01:32:32
Speaker
Yeah. So like, why not go back and fix Pantheon? What do they have against Pantheon? Like, why it not worth investing in? It is wild. It makes no sense to me. Like...
01:32:46
Speaker
made No sense to me. That park is themed so well and then you just have Pantheon Station. They just like gave up or something. i don't know. It's insane.
01:32:58
Speaker
i I like try to be chill about it and then I get myself upset. We're both finding things to get just heated about today.
01:33:10
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Yeah.
01:33:14
Speaker
I think that this just shows that like
01:33:18
Speaker
Stations are important. it's They really are. They can literally make or break your experience. They can turn your... You can have a terrible queue experience and then have a great station experience that can turn around completely and vice versa. You're going have the best time in the park, in the queue, leading up to the ride, everything, and then get into the ride and...
01:33:39
Speaker
station can destroy it. Yeah. And like, I feel like when I brought up this as a potential topic for this week, you were just like, what the heck are we going to talk about? Yeah. I was like, I'm not really sure, but I guess, but like, after I thought about it a little more, I'm like, it is something that's so impactful.
Impact of Station Design on Ride Experience
01:34:01
Speaker
And I do remember those stations. I actually,
01:34:06
Speaker
um obviously I have nothing but good things to say about Talon at Dorney Park. um But... i mean Actually, haven't had you say you haven't said that on the podcast in a while.
01:34:17
Speaker
I know. It's been a little while. it's It's okay. I'm here. all It's still gin. We promise. The only negative thing that I do say about that ride is the station.
01:34:30
Speaker
um And it's been the only negative thing I say about that ride the entire time that I have loved it. And anyone who has talked... to me about it, I say that that is the one bad thing about the attraction. I think they do an incredible job for everything else.
01:34:49
Speaker
um But that station really breaks it for me. I have really, sometimes I have really bad experiences and it comes down to that station and my experience in that station. Yeah. he did mention like invert stations specifically.
01:35:04
Speaker
Yeah, and really, there's a couple that I really don't like, but I really am thinking of Talon when I say that. I love that ride. um I love that ride, if you guys don't know that. but No, we know that.
01:35:16
Speaker
um It just, that station experience is a really poor experience, in my opinion. um
01:35:26
Speaker
on an i I don't know why I didn't think about this, but I do think another, like, mention for a good station as we're getting ready to wrap this one up um iron menace iron menace's station experience is really good um they're very well organized they do a they i feel like they do a really good level of theming through the experience um
01:35:53
Speaker
I just like the colors and the vibe. Like I really am into that whole like muted pastel-y color that for me is visually appealing. So then leaning into that and using that to make the station feel like very rustic and like old industrial style. And just like fit the same vibes as the queue and the haunted house. and Exactly. So it has the theming. The efficiency is there that They're like in and out in that every time.
01:36:28
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um
01:36:32
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And I also like that the gates... The gates are set back closer to the train. So we were speaking Skyrush earlier, so Skyrush, they need to make sure everyone exits before they'll start loading.
01:36:49
Speaker
And I think they started doing that because people were jumping on and stealing seats and rewriting. um So now when you exit the train at Skyrush, they won't load until you're completely out.
01:37:02
Speaker
um And a lot of places are like that. They won't load until you're completely out ah out of the exit gates. Makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. it Totally understandable.
01:37:14
Speaker
I like that Iron Menace's exit gates are still kind of in the station.
01:37:21
Speaker
So you can still sit in the station. If you have like friends who made it on a different train, things like that, you can still kind of be in the station because of the way that their exit gates are laid out. Yeah.
01:37:33
Speaker
So I really like that. I don't remember the station for Iron Menace super well, so... Yeah, it's it's a good station. I think it's a very well-designed station.
01:37:46
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Yeah.
01:37:49
Speaker
Well, this has been a very productive talk about station design, I feel.
Final Thoughts and Upcoming Episodes
01:37:55
Speaker
Yeah. so I feel like we've got more to talk about than we thought we would. Yeah, definitely. I think there was much more. Once we started to like talk about it a little bit, I was like, oh, we can go.
01:38:05
Speaker
Yeah. We have a lot here. Of course, I think at one point I'm like, This will probably be a short episode. No, we're at an hour and 40. Yeah, it's already 1015. Whoops. wonder if it's snowing here yet. It's supposed to snow soon.
01:38:20
Speaker
Still gotta do trash. Anyway. All right. Well, I think that brings us to the end of the episode. So this episode is dropping Monday. so our um I will say Merry Christmas because we're not going to have another another episode until after Christmas.
01:38:40
Speaker
um Well, we're recording before Christmas, but it'll drop after Christmas. But yes, to those who celebrate Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. We will get one more episode before the new year.
01:38:52
Speaker
Yes. And I think it might be an epic one. Yeah. And I think Brian's finally going to be back with us. Yes.
01:39:04
Speaker
Very exciting. Yeah, it will be definitely an epic thing. um Which, speaking of which, I'm dropping a epic universe vlog on YouTube.
01:39:15
Speaker
I guess when this posts, it'll be this week, so. By the time you're hearing this, I will maybe have already dropped it slash be dropping it in like two days.
01:39:26
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I think I'm doing, I'm trying to do like Wednesday uploads, I think, but. i think blogs I realized that my joke was bad. I was saying it's it's too late, guys. I was saying that it would be an epic one as in it would be epic.
01:39:38
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Not it would be about epic. I mean, and it's going to be about epic. But
01:39:47
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but that'll be in a couple weeks. but yeah but Yeah. Very exciting! wo um yeah Thank you for all your support. Again, i can't say that enough.
01:40:01
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Yeah. I agree. We have a lot to look forward to. Yeah, I think so too. Yep. But until then, hashtag thinkinverted keep hashtag thinkinverted. Whatever I say. i don't even know what I say anymore. Yeah, sorry guys. It's really late. i think late I'm tired. I'm going to go cuddle a cat and go to bed.
01:40:20
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Good night. hope Bye guys.