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The World Cup of Coasters! What Country Do We Have Winning It All?
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The World Cup just ended, but we got inspired to host our own little bracket! Out of 16 countries, which one has the best overall top five coaster lineup? We argue our thoughts, even though there are some countries we struggled to figure out a top five for—either because there are too many coasters, or not enough. Do you agree with our picks? Disagree? Let us know what you think!!
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Transcript
Introduction and Pre-Recording Scene
00:00:00
Speaker
You are listening to the Inverted Creative Podcast. I'm Allison. I'm Jen. I'm Brian. I'm Mikhail. And I'm Nate.
00:00:18
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So our pre-recording for this episode was basically a scene of all of us like back in school. We were waiting on Bryant to get here. He's our teacher because he's the one running the episode today. And all of us were just like frantically finishing our homework, doing research for this episode.
00:00:34
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And we're all sharing answers and trying to figure things out. Yeah, I'm sitting outside the class waiting for the teacher to come and open the door.
00:00:48
Speaker
Wait, if the teacher's more than 15 minutes late, class canceled?
Punctuality and Humorous Anecdotes
00:00:51
Speaker
Class is canceled. Recordings canceled. That is the rule. I show up right on time, and you guys just weren't ready. Shameful. To be fair, we were on time. We said 7 o'clock.
00:01:01
Speaker
Yeah, you were late. I thought we said 7.30. I think we said let's shoot for 7. Did I just misread that? Yeah, you did. yeah you did Oh, my bad. Oh, crap. It's fine because it gave us all 30 minutes to do our homework last minute.
00:01:16
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I haven't been on the podcast in like well over two months, so I'm a little rusty. Allison was trying to move it forward so we'd hit the 15 minute rule. Yeah. you know And we can cancel the podcast. It's all right. you've you've just You've just come off sabbatical. We'll excuse it.
00:01:30
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There we go. yeah that That was your summer break. Yeah. Who are these guys, by the way? where's What happened to Jen? They kidnapped her? No, some random Dutch guy kidnapped her.
00:01:41
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Oh, that's good.
00:01:44
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That's very hilarious! To be fair, have we confirmed that she is in the US s and not back in Germany? I'll never know where she is. Oh, I have her location.
00:01:57
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Yeah, she was she was back home last week. ah smarts As as I am aware. she I assume that's where she was recording from last week.
00:02:08
Speaker
Yep. No, I've not spoken to you on this podcast since your wedding. So congratulations, I guess, again. Well, thank you. Two months later. It's not like you were part of the wedding or anything.
00:02:22
Speaker
Was I? i don't I don't remember too much from that night. so You and a lot of other people. Apparently, yeah I was in the wedding, i guess. yeah No, that was, yeah.
00:02:34
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What a time. What a time.
Introduction to Rollercoaster World Cup Game
00:02:37
Speaker
Heck of a night. what was aa I think.
00:02:41
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I know. I conveniently missed all the cleanup because I was in the back room trying not to pass out. You were in the back rooms? yeah There was multiple cleanups in different areas of of Cincinnati that night.
00:02:59
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Mine was on the sidewalk. yeah That's what I mean. In front of the Uber. mine Mine was at least at the Airbnb. That's the joke.
00:03:11
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I least contained mine. Oh my god, Brian, I found another mine train. In Vietnam, I saw it. Talk about why they were doing some homework. Why we were doing our homework frantically before the episode started.
00:03:25
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ah Why Mikhail found a mine train. but ah I thought in in honor of the World Cup, which, as you're listening to this, just ended yesterday.
00:03:37
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So congratulations to... Screw it. Congratulations to Spain. Screw screw you, Vessi.
00:03:50
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Roast Bryant in the comments if he's wrong. It's going to get messy. LOL. LOL.
00:03:58
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Just for that, I want Spain to win. Exactly. i mean yeah Hey, listen. I went to that game, FC Cincinnati versus Miami with Mike, and it was three to two Cincinnati, and I said to him, man, it'd be really cool to see Messi lose live, not just play live.
00:04:16
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and then they'll And then Cincinnati lost 5-3. Immediately after I said that, like they started scoring. It was your fault. It was my fault. So if you keep talking crap about Messi...
00:04:28
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I just said it was going to get messy.
00:04:32
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Anyway. but um So I thought would be fun to do a little rollercoaster World Cup. And the little game that I came up with is that I have picked what I think are the 16 best rollercoaster countries in the world.
00:04:51
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And what we're going to do is try to determine the top five – of each of these countries and have debates. And then i have four groups of four countries, just like the World Cup.
00:05:05
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I think they're pretty well evenly divided. We're going to pick the two best countries for each group.
Debates on Top Rollercoasters by Country
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And then we're going have a best of eight tournament, knockout stage, just like the actual World Cup until we have a winner. But we think which country has the best top five in the world.
00:05:21
Speaker
So let's start off with countries that I left out and I did ask for your y'all's opinion. um So just like the actual World Cup for the last three occasions, um Italy just missed the cut.
00:05:38
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I'm kind of sad, but I'm also kind of not. You're the one that kind of said they're not that great overall. They're really not. Okay. You have been there. I have been there. i am speaking from experience. to Expert, no.
00:05:50
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Experience, yes. Have I been there? Yes. Am I an expert? Absolutely not. And I did have a little rule, and I think it's important to have a truly well-rounded country.
00:06:04
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um They can't all come from the same park. Do you agree with that stipulation? Yes. agree for all but one country. Saudi Arabia, right?
00:06:19
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But then it's like... should yes should Now, granted, they really have like a top four. and I guess... What's what's the Vekoma family coaster? that's we' the Adrenaline?
00:06:30
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In where? Saudi Arabia. You may be forgetting one and that I think I have written down. But we'll get there. okay Like that's not at Kadia?
00:06:40
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Oh, Saudi Arabia, my bad. I was thinking UAE because I'm like looking for UAE. That's my bad. I wasn't listening. Nate is still doing homework, by the way. yeah In my opinion, then it's just like it's ka do it's like that's a park world cup where it's just all from one park.
00:06:53
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Yeah. So, did not include Saudi Arabia. Grill me in the car in the comments if you disagree. but I know Mikhail forgot about the one park rule for at least one of the countries. That's the one I'm talking about.
00:07:05
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Oh, okay.
00:07:08
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So I think we'll just reveal the countries one at a time as we go through the groups. I think the best way to do it is we have 16 countries, four countries in each group. um one of us Each of us will take a turn revealing their top five.
00:07:24
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And then... Like, they'll say a coaster, wait three seconds. If nobody says anything, that means it's kind of a consensus, yeah, that's a top five coaster in that country. And then they'll read the second one.
00:07:36
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If anyone disagrees, then they can speak up and we have a little debate. And we'll we'll debate until we have ah group top five for each country, then move to the next one.
00:07:50
Speaker
I have a question. Okay. Do they have to be in order when we read them out? Oh, God, no. No, no, no, no, no. I was just kind of writing things that I thought of them. When you were laughing and struggling to say that, I was thinking of the, was it Happy Gilmore? No, it's it's Billy Madison. to to to to Today, Junior!
00:08:17
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No, they do not need to be in order. It's just the top five. We're not ranking on one through five. Just if they make the list or not. I have a question. Sure. this going to be on the test?
00:08:28
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Is this what? Is this going to be on the test? Yes. yeah There'll be a pop quiz about how this tournament's done at the end. yeah
00:08:38
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I'm more of a game show host, less a teacher, so don't worry.
00:08:43
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The teacher analogy. i don't know if that's a good thing or not.
00:08:47
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Fair.
00:08:50
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We need your game show voice then. i only got one voice. there When I try to do impressions, it's it's not good. Yeah. I can do your little intro for you. like but Welcome back to Family Feud.
00:09:06
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I have hosted Family Feud before, that's true. We need Garyon for commentary. 100%. Yeah, I should have thought of that beforehand.
00:09:21
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anyway we're you for the play by if i play by play but
00:09:28
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So I'm ready to go if you guys are ready to go. Nate, are you done? i I'm good. That's not what I asked. i I'm done. I actually just got my last Spain one.
00:09:41
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And it's I am very biased on this one, but it's my fifth one, so it's fine. I struggled with so many of these. I'm done. I struggled with all the countries I hadn't been to. Oh, I'm not done. The UK, I'm missing two. But continue. I've been to the UK. It's fine.
00:09:57
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yeah Obviously, we haven't been to all these countries or ridden all these coasters, so it's more of a if if we haven't ridden, if we think it's a top five coaster based on what others have said that we know of. um But less than a lot of more.
00:10:12
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What does the world or us four think as a whole?
00:10:17
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So anyway, there be a lot of RC being. Yes, for sure. Same here. In group A, we're kicking off with a big one. China. Starting with China.
00:10:31
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Who wants to start their top five for reveal? I can. okay Because I'm not confident about any of the other countries. Knowing absolutely nothing about China, and I know there's a lot more on here than this.
00:10:47
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But I have Dinaconda.
00:10:50
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yeah Beyond the Cloud.
00:10:53
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Soaring with Dragon. Coaster Through the Clouds, Dueling Dragons. um Man, Dueling Dragons is a good pick, but can we acknowledge Jerome's Wooden Dragon? cause that thing I did not even know the name of that. Unbelievably good. That looks like the best wooden coaster in China and maybe the best wooden coaster.
00:11:17
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By Dueling Dragons, do you mean the red and green track ones? Oh, because there's also the wooden one. Oh, I was thinking of this. Dueling Dragons never duels. Ever.
00:11:28
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Neither one of them do. No. The wooden one or the stone. What kind of Dueling Dragons are these things? They're not. Okay. Dueling Dragons looks like either side individually looks better than any of the others that we've mentioned.
00:11:47
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No. You think it looks better than Jerome's wooden dragon? I think... I know it's a silly name, but that ride looks... I think the inverted side does. At least. Jerome's Wooden Dragon, I i love the look of that coaster, I will say. It looks phenomenal. It looks like the best wooden coaster in China that isn't called Python and Bamboo Forest.
00:12:13
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I've heard, okay, I agree with Python and Bamboo and Wood Coaster. Python and Bamboo Forest and Wood Coaster both look... unbelievably good. But I've heard from people who've gone ridden Python and Bamboo Forest that it's gotten really, really rough.
00:12:27
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Which usually doesn't bother me, but at a certain point it it starts to deteriorate from the ride. I've heard the opposite recently. I've heard the opposite this year. the i also may be too tall to ride Python Bamboo Forest.
00:12:40
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Ooh, okay. the zero card I don't know what the height limit is. It's like 6'2 and i yeah Under 188 centimeters, whatever that is.
00:12:51
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If we want a well-rounded group, yeah i think we should have a wood coaster. Yeah. Because I was going to say about wood coaster, if we're talking about SBNO Coasters not counting, how long has that been SBNO now?
00:13:03
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ah A while. A hot minute. 2022. 2022.
00:13:10
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Oh, that's actually not as not as long as I thought. Which one is that that you're talking about? Wood coaster at Night Valley is the park, is it?
00:13:22
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Yes. Yes. And also all all the S&S air launch coasters that are SBNO. Yeah, jeez. I mean, we talked about a little bit when we were texting the other day. Six foot two, by the way.
00:13:41
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Yikes. Well, that's the max height. On a good day, I'm short enough to write it. Yeah. On a good day, I'm short enough to write it. um
00:13:51
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Yeah. Python and Bamboo Forest, I think look like its layout looks like it edges Jerome's Wooden Dragon for me personally. um Having watched POVs of them not long ago.
00:14:06
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I really want to veto that because of the height thing. but i won't I'll be fair. I'll be fair. People that have written Python and love it, I have heard compare it to Void.
00:14:19
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Wow. Well, yeah, because it's it never stops. yeah It just doesn't end. doesn't end.
00:14:27
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Okay, so you said, okay, so Allison, you said Dinoconda, Beyond the... Wait, did you say Beyond the Cloud or Coaster Through the Cloud? Both. She said both. And I think both should be in there. Yes.
00:14:38
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So I was going back and forth between Coaster Through the... Okay, so Dinoconda, yes. Beyond the Cloud, yes. Soren with Dragon, yes. um I was going back and forward between, ah well, about Coaster Through the Clouds.
00:14:53
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Because I also had Starry Skyripper in there. Oh god, yeah. yeah I forgot about that one. Of course. I can't believe I forgot that one too. Yeah. I'm okay that. you go be going dragon when i said When I said China's dog walk in this group... Well, I mean... yeah Listen, i didn't even mention we didn't even mention All Speeds.
00:15:16
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That's a Terran clone. yeah But it's not Klugeheim. It's not Klugeheim. But the theming is not why Terran ranks so high for me, personally. And we already have a Terran clone in another country.
00:15:31
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Terran? Yes. Yeah, in Germany. We'll get there, but... I'm just saying, like, if China's that good... tower If China has a lineup so good that we haven't even gotten to talking about Terran... Yeah!
00:15:47
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Exactly. on. Not to mention all of the all of the... China, like, we all we all talk about, like, um ah Thunderbird being, like, the the the best B&M wing coaster in the US, or, i don't I don't know, Gatekeeper for some people, and then, like, Phoenix, ah at Tovaland, whichever whichever other ones.
00:16:12
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The best wing coaster in the world might be in China. Is Parrot Coaster that giant one? Yeah. Or is it Falcon? Both. Yes. yeah All the above.
00:16:25
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Yeah, Parrot Coaster, Chin-A-Long Ocean Kingdom, yeah. They both looking. Falcon's almost a hyper. It's 197 feet tall. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
00:16:36
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Well, yeah I definitely forgot about Starry Skyripper. That, I think, for sure needs to make it with... Absolutely. Beyond the Cloud, yes. Dinoconda, yes. I would say Soaring with Dragon, yes.
00:16:47
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That fifth spot, it's going to be a Woody or... I don't know. Regardless, it's a strong... I do think it needs to be a wooden coaster purely because of how many good wooden coasters they look like there are China. Yeah. We ain't even talked about the gravity group, Woodies.
00:17:09
Speaker
Yeah, Jungle Trailblazer, Jungle Trailblazer, Jungle Trailblazer, Jungle... Yeah. They all look awesome. They all look great. My vote would probably go to Python if I had one for the fifth spot.
00:17:22
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Same. Sure.
00:17:27
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Allison's like, we're already talking too much about China. We got to move on. I don't know enough. Also, o c on the dar didn't mention OCT thrust either, which I know it's SBNO, but. Well, all the SNSs are SBNO there. They all like shut down the same day. Like, wild.
00:17:43
Speaker
Because of Bullet Coaster, I think. yeah That's the one that rolled back, right? Yeah. Anyway. one Are you writing these five down, Allison? I mean, i have them, yes. Okay.
00:17:56
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Am I the official scorekeeper? i mean, i I can start writing them down. just in my technique I can type them. you're I got the group, so. okay I was going to say, do have a Word document up. second I've only got my rankings written down.
00:18:10
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Sorry to anybody listening to all of my typing. ah you're good I'm adding them to the ah the show notes. Yeah, that works, and we can all see it. I should probably open those, huh? and Anyway, next country, we're going to Europe. We got the Netherlands.
00:18:29
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Not it. the list I'll go. Be careful, Mikhail.
00:18:40
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I feel strongly about one of these. Okay. Alright. Alright, I'll go. ah Untamed.
00:18:50
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Troy.
00:18:54
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ah Phoenix.
00:18:58
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These are not in order, right? They're not in order. no i'm better okay good okay Literally, i'm I'm reading them like not in order of how I listed them.
00:19:09
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Joris. Whoa. Oh, no. Okay, well, because see let's hear the fifth one. yeah
00:19:19
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Goliath. Nope. Nope. Lost Gravity. Lost Gravity. We got to put you on there. Well, yeah. We can talk about you on there. No, no, no. was going to say, don't do that. Don't do that. Here we go. What you were saying before we hit real world. Here we go.
00:19:37
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Lost Gravity is the second best coaster Wallaby Holland. I do not care. It's Untamed and then Lost Gravity. I think it's the third best. I would agree with that. i I think second best.
00:19:48
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i I went back and forth about Lost Gravity. It's not that I was just like, uh, nah, definitely not. like i It's on the fringe for me. i wouldn't have I wouldn't have Phoenix or Goliath over Lost Gravity personally. Or Yoris.
00:20:05
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Yoris is a hot take at top 5, in my opinion. I'd put Baron over Yoris. I'd put Baron over Yoris. When I say Yoris, truthfully, I specifically mean the water side.
00:20:17
Speaker
I like the fire better. Because that thing flew. Nah, water flew for me. Okay. I was like, is this a surprise? Why is it so much faster? I won on fire and I lost on water, which means fire won twice when I was there. Wait, no.
00:20:34
Speaker
I think it back I won both times, but fire was more fun. I think I was going to say, I think it was the exact opposite for me. I think water won both times when I rode fire, i lost. And then, but for this, they're both in it. They're both in it. Okay.
00:20:47
Speaker
okay You want to say that? Take that. Take that. Take the average. but Um, yeah. Are we really shutting down Yoi or joy? Whatever, however you pronounce it.
00:20:57
Speaker
Cause that's, that's for, I haven't written it, but I've not written it. i'm not been I've not been on it. There is not. Only me? I'm not reading it either. Wait, Bryce is the only one who's reading it. I went too early. It wasn't a built. no I mean, I loved it. It's in my top 100.
00:21:14
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ah Definitely the second my second favorite at the park. Speak on that. As an attraction. What do you like so much about it So I generally, like, I don't hate Raptors. Like, I love Wonder Woman. I love Railblazer slightly less. I love Stunt Pilot.
00:21:33
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um Not as much of a fan of Jersey Devil. I thought Yoi was a it was a good, unique Raptor where it was one of the more elongated layouts, but still had some of the pop and the quickness of her wonder woman not as much but and honestly i liked the chill side better than the thrill side because the air time i predicted that that i that's what i think in advance as soon as that as soon as i saw all the airtime moments on chill i was just like oh yeah the enthusiasts are gonna like chill side more than more than the more than the green side not everybody but a lot of people
00:22:09
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um What was I going to say? i feel like i I feel like I've heard very polarizing things about Yoi. I've heard some people say it's amazing and some people say it's really nothing at all. More Europeans hate on Yoi than and the Americans that have ridden it. are Like, ooh, that's actually a really good Raptor.
00:22:25
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hey From my layman's perspective, ah I am not, i don't think the Raptors have it in them to beat like some of the other ones.
00:22:37
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that Mikhail named personally. maybe Maybe I would say it could beat Phoenix, but I also wouldn't put Phoenix in the top five. So I don't know.
00:22:48
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phoenix was a Phoenix was a fringe one, I think, I will say. I think it's... just one that was just like I think it would be an injustice to not have Lost Gravity in this top five. Lost Gravity is...
00:23:02
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incredible. I agree with Lost Gravity. Lost Gravity is another one that's like, I think it looks really quirky, like, I guess, in how the Mark Big Dippers just look in general.
00:23:15
Speaker
But then I've heard some people love it, and then some people say it doesn't really deliver on what it looks like it should. I got Ejector. hang that's all That's all you needed. yeah i Listen, that whole... rock i wrote i literally rode Lost Gravity more than any other coaster that day.
00:23:34
Speaker
rode it five times. I rode Untamed 3, Goliath... Goliath broke. I would have ridden it more, but it was I rode it twice. um And Lost Gravity, i was glad I rode it the most.
00:23:46
Speaker
I don't know. I just... lost I mean, untamed Untamed is the best one there, for sure. Untamed is... oh yeah Number one in the Netherlands, I don't think that's an argument. But I don't know. I think we're on Gravity.
00:23:58
Speaker
So we've got Untamed, ah Goliath, Troy. troy The other two, i will you know accept whatever whatever we want on them.
00:24:10
Speaker
Should we mention Gold Rush at Slagheron? Has anyone ridden that one? I watched the Coaster Studios video. i did That one could be really good. is it It's an infinity, isn't it?
00:24:21
Speaker
Yeah, to infinity. It's true. Yeah, whoever edited that video are popped off. Right? someone Someone should, you know, send him a message or something. ah Yeah, mean, it it's short, but it does look good.
00:24:38
Speaker
but I don't know if it's top five. I don't think going Lost Gravity for me. Yeah. Or Yoi, or Troy. I haven't been on Troy. Yoi Troy. Yoi Troy.
00:24:49
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Troy's so good. Troy's actually so good. Mine would probably be on it Untamed for sure. Troy, i would put Yoi in there. I'd put Lost Gravity in there. um And then honestly, probably Goliath.
00:25:05
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know it's four from one park, but... My list was Untamed, Lost Gravity, Baron, Troy, Phoenix.
00:25:12
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Baron was closed when I went to F2, unfortunately. I had untamed Loss Cavity, Troy, Goliath, and Baron.
00:25:23
Speaker
So it's between Baron, Yoi, and Yoris for that last spot? Wait, what was the third spot then? or third and fourth spot? Goliath, are we agreeing on Goliath?
00:25:35
Speaker
Hmm, sure. marsh Seems like we only have consensus on two, on Troy and, uh... Troy to tame. Yeah. Um... I'm happy with Goliath being in there.
00:25:48
Speaker
Okay, let's see. I'm happy with Goliath. each The three of you each put in one more. We got... Between Joris, Baron, and Yoi. Yoi and Goldrush.
00:26:02
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And Lost Gravity. Lost Gravity. okay and i still want I still want to say Phoenix. Okay. Yeah, there you go. I'm fine with Phoenix. i What was the fifth one then? i cant I kind of still want to say Joris.
00:26:18
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I'm good with Phoenix. Nah, Troy holding it down. So I have Untamed Troy, Lost Gravity Phoenix, Gawaii. Yep. Wow, no Yoi. You guys suck.
00:26:29
Speaker
um Hey, I claim no power in that decision. All right, country number three in Group a we got Canada. Well, we know who the logical one is for this.
00:26:40
Speaker
Yes. what Let's hear Mikhail's top five in Canada. Because, you know, he's such a local to all the good coasters in Canada. Wait, we're we're not... Are you being sarcastic?
00:26:55
Speaker
Wait, did you move already? but No. I'm out of the loop, man. Mikhail already did the nether ones. in Yeah, Mikhail already the nether ones. I'm just stupid, it's okay.
00:27:06
Speaker
I need Belgium. I'm sorry. Wait, who who did the... I did China. did China. that will give Brian- Brian, do you want Canada? I'll do Canada. You live closest not in Canada to Canada. I now realize it would have been funnier if I'd have done Canada and not that. Yeah. You can do it again. Not just because I live there.
00:27:30
Speaker
Not just because I live here. Canada. All right. Alpenfury. i think that's a given. Leviathan. Yep. Behemoth.
00:27:43
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nope
00:27:46
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Vampire at Laurent. Nah, I can't. It's one of the the best Batman clones. Is it though? Yes. can't speak on it. I'm not reading it. I can't speak on it. People that have written it literally in the last month are like, oh, it's better than Over Georgia.
00:28:05
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which it is audience scene ors not scene I'm just saying. you too much and that Unironically, is the original is my favorite.
00:28:16
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I'm torn between number five because I haven't been on one of them. I'm between Vortex at Canada's Winterland. Oh, I forgot about Yukon Striker. Holy... Or Coaster at P&E Playlist.
00:28:31
Speaker
I had that on my top five and I won't ride that for a little while. i also and team Vortex because I love Vortex. I think Vortex could easily go in here. i I can't believe I forgot about Vortex.
00:28:46
Speaker
That's absolutely top five. Here we go. okay Absolutely. i want So Vortex is one. I've got actually another Leronde coaster. I think Goliath at Leronde.
00:28:58
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could be in here. I did think about Goliath. um It's small but mighty. So for what it's worth, so we stay within community guidelines.
00:29:11
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I did have Coaster at Peony Playland in there as well. okay I had them on my list as well. I also have Coaster at Gromelon.
00:29:23
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We're not dissuiting it.
00:29:27
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It's crazy, right? As much as I want to read the USA one, I did it on Sweden
00:29:38
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Um... the Yeah. so up so when i said So when I said earlier that I that i agree to the two-park rule for every country apart from one, that one country I was referring to was Canada.
00:29:57
Speaker
Because originally, instead of... Well, yes. Instead of instead of Vortex, I had Yukon Striker because I had forgotten about Vortex, which I then swiftly changed to Vortex because...
00:30:09
Speaker
Duh. But I also didn't have Coaster on there because because of well because of us a recent Gravity Group retrack, I had Mighty Canadian Mindbuster. Ooh.
00:30:25
Speaker
Ooh, i don't know about that. i don't know I don't think it can crack the top five. no Okay, so from all accounts, we well, and I know me and Allison have, um we've ridden Grizzly at King's Dominion.
00:30:40
Speaker
I say recently, it was last year. um That thing was unbelievable, like considering how horrible it used to be. And from all accounts, hearing from commenters and people who have ridden Mindbuster saying it's riding just as good, if not better, than Grizzly.
00:31:01
Speaker
So that's where I'm going. Is it going
00:31:05
Speaker
on Coaster, though? I will say I prefer Grizzly to Coaster. Okay. i think I think Coaster should go on there. Especially with the two-part rule. but i'm I'm happy you happy with Coaster. No, no, no. Coaster's good enough to be on there for sure.
00:31:22
Speaker
Coaster's great. the midst Vampire versus Yukon versus Vortex for the last time. Or maybe Behemoth. i Behemoth might not be a guarantee.
00:31:34
Speaker
Yeah. I'd be okay losing Behemoth. I'd be okay losing Behemoth. ah it's worse Instead of what, though? ah Vortex, Vampire, Coaster.
00:31:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, would agree with that. If it's too close to Leviathan, maybe we if we want some variety. Vampire rips. It does. say It rips.
00:31:56
Speaker
And I haven't been on it in four years. Okay. Alright. I wrote it last I'll i'll take i'll take it i'll take you lot's word on on it for that. heck yeah I forgot like how personal ah Over Georgia Batman is, and I was there to see Mikau's reaction on that one. You were there. You were there. You were part of the Fabled Four.
00:32:18
Speaker
to That's fantastic. ah That was a good trip. ah So like, yeah, when people said, oh, Vampire is better than over Georgia, i'm like, let's hold the brakes a little bit. I still think it's over Georgia.
00:32:33
Speaker
But yeah, it's close. Vampire is very good. It's close. but Anyway. Alpen Fury. Yes. Leviathan. Yes. yeah We're saying coaster. Yes. Yes. yeah I think Vortex seems pretty.
00:32:45
Speaker
v Vortex has to be. Vortex has to be. So Behemoth, Yukon or Vampire is the question. Yeah. i did jump just think hi I did just think Mindbuster deserved a mention for the work that Gravity Group have done on it, have seemingly done on it.
00:33:03
Speaker
yeah Considering how praised Grizzly was when they brought that back to life. You know? But yeah, no, I'm happy with that. No one said Monster Laurent, rightly.
00:33:16
Speaker
I love Monster, it's just not top five in Canada. Yeah, it's not top five. answerster was i was making I'm just making sure didn't miss anything here. You know what you know which one I kind of wanted to wanted to include as well? it it wasn't it wasn't It's not top five. it's not It wasn't make it, but...
00:33:33
Speaker
Oh, excuse me. um Yeti Trek. Okay. i see it delightful It looks so good. It looks so cute. And just really quite good for what it is as well.
00:33:46
Speaker
ah Yeah, no, it does look really good. Also, shout out the deceased Dragon Mountain. It might have made my top five. Dragon Mountain should have been on my top five.
00:34:00
Speaker
But is it... Is it not applicable because it's SBNO? Yeah. Okay, so it wouldn't count for this anyway. Right. Well, we'll have the SBNO potentially in that discussion later on.
00:34:14
Speaker
all right Well, it's it's a different kind of SBNO. It's SBNO in terms of hasn't been torn out yet.
Group A Rankings Discussion
00:34:22
Speaker
Exactly. um Is it Belgium time? It is Belgium time, the last country in week A.
00:34:30
Speaker
All right. Let me load it up on our CDB here. Here we go. belgium All right. I did put these in order of what I think. I struggled with the fight, but we'll see here.
00:34:45
Speaker
Belgium. I have number one, Ride to Happiness. Allison. Yeah. Yeah, Allison. um because Because number two, Conda. Yes.
00:35:00
Speaker
um Number three, i have Fury at Bobby Onland. Okay. The vote infinity coaster. um Then I have Anubis. I'm going to speak up right now. Absolutely not.
00:35:17
Speaker
Alright, let me get my my last one spoken out here. um i have I have written down, i have another one in mind, but i have written down Wakala because I just looked at that one and it actually looks really cool. But a potential other option is mecca with it.
00:35:33
Speaker
The bold thing. the There's no way you can go Wakala over Mechalodon. Yeah, was gonna say, if you don't have Mechalodon on this list, you're like... I think I agree with that now that I've said it, so... Mechalodon.
00:35:44
Speaker
Redo that Mechalodon for Wakala. What's wrong with Anubis? Yeah, that was... That ride sucks after the react sha will launch. That ride sucks after the launch. It's basically Daredevil Dive after launch. It's Daredevil Dive.
00:35:57
Speaker
I thought Lynette was the one that was the Daredevil Dive clone. Hmm. No, no, no, no, it's not yet. I i checked it earlier today. no It's not Anubis's. Oh, okay, okay. think I think Lynette is close, but... um Lynette's... One of them is actually quite different. The other one is... a Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
00:36:16
Speaker
So I... You're right, it is Anubis. I'm going throw Turbine slash Psyche Underground into this discussion. yeah I can be okay with Turbine. I love Turbine. i can i can go um I can go either way between Turbine and Anubis. Anubis is not that bad.
00:36:32
Speaker
like It's kinda after the launch, but it's not. It doesn't suck. It's still kind of fun. It doesn't suck. um It don't suck. It doesn't suck. Suck is i mean um i could I could go either way between those two.
00:36:51
Speaker
don't I... i'm I'm not going to act like Loop Guru is that good, but I really like it. na Yeah, no. I know they're closing it to RMC it, but... i know so I know some people who really like Loop Guru.
00:37:02
Speaker
I wouldn't be mad. I would not be mad at Turbine being on here. It's pretty good. do want to say... so i wasn't I wasn't so like heavily moved by it, but it is fun. It is fun.
00:37:16
Speaker
When we do this tournament again and in 2030, Belgium is a contender right there. and Oh, yeah.
00:37:28
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, obviously Ride of Happiness, Conda, not even a debate. I would say Meclodon, not a debate. I was about to say Meclodon isn't a debate. I honestly, with the other coasters we have to choose from, I don't think Fury is a debate.
00:37:40
Speaker
I agree. Oh, yeah. I think it's just that good I mean, ah yeah. that that fifth but It's a lot like Hangtime. If you haven't ridden Fury, it if you have ridden Hangtime, it's pretty similar.
00:37:51
Speaker
That doesn't inspire me with confidence, honestly. Although the launch makes it much better. That's fair. ah the The launch is really good. And you can go backwards or forwards regardless of... i think I don't know if they got rid of the voting or not, but you can go backwards or forwards, which is cool.
00:38:08
Speaker
ah Apparently they... you like you It opened like you've been able to vote on which way it turned. Apparently you can't do that anymore. you can vote when i You could vote when I wrote it but there was a there was a an option somehow of only going a certain way oh there was a way that you could only ride forwards or you could vote right yeah the only way to get backwards was to win the vote backwards yeah which i i think i think they just always run it i think they just always run that backwards now from what i've heard
00:38:44
Speaker
So it's either backwards or forwards. and Basically, yeah. Okay. Then it alternates because that's how the lines were set up. Either way, I think that's a true contender. Forward and backward, it's really good.
00:38:55
Speaker
Agreed. um Yeah, I'm not a lot of that. Turbine versus Anubis.
00:39:04
Speaker
What about Heidi the Ride? the White Lightning. Heidi the Righty? I like Heidi more than I'm nervous. I like Turbine more than either of those. I like Turbine. Turbine was also my 600, so I like it.
00:39:20
Speaker
Although, we gotta mention Disco Twister at Mega Spielstad. that's ah That's a coaster right there. It's in a basement i'm not even ah with the lights off with like skeletons around it.
00:39:33
Speaker
And it has disco music while you go around like almost a figure eight.
00:39:40
Speaker
I'm not serious on that one. if you if you If you three want to do Turbine, I won't push back on it. I think I would personally go Anubis between the two. but not that Not that there's much gap between them for me, I don't think.
00:39:54
Speaker
It's close enough for me. I'm not mad at going Turbine. Yeah. Cool. There it is Now, hey we got three parts and seo delivered group A. are we Am I just going to go on a limb and say China has won group A?
00:40:11
Speaker
Yeah, I think so. Belgium is the only competition, and I think. yeah i would just I hate to say that about Kanda. move on. right to move on
Group B Rankings Discussion
00:40:20
Speaker
So who gets the second spot?
00:40:23
Speaker
I think it should be China, then Belgium. Yeah. I think it's going to be Belgium.
00:40:29
Speaker
Right top in his Honda, Mechalodon. Actually, pull it on I think because of Mechalodon and Fury, they compete with, like, Lost Gravity, Phoenix, and Goliath and beat them. I don't honestly... I'd put Canada third and Netherlands fourth, probably.
00:40:46
Speaker
Canada's... I still... Yeah, I still think Ryde Havius, Konda are too strong. Yeah, like, Canada's four and five, debatably, might be better than Belgium and Netherlands four and five. Yeah. But...
00:40:58
Speaker
Yeah, the the top two of Belgium. its it's It's too good. Yeah. they're yeah I agree. Are we saying Belgium's better than China?
00:41:09
Speaker
Better not be. No, I can't say that. I cannot say that. Look at that. All right, so China's A1 and Belgium's A2. That's where we're going right there. yeah Yeah. Okay.
00:41:26
Speaker
Group B. Mikhail's going to kick it off. We got the UK. Hold on, mate.
00:41:37
Speaker
Just lost a devastating game to Argentina. Yeah, rip. It was a good game, though. I'm not mad at the result. Argentina earned that one.
00:41:47
Speaker
um Okay, so, yeah, you can... I have very little say in this one. is the only I'm the only one that has never ridden a coaster in the UK, so. Wait, hold on. I've just i've just realized something. ah we Are we doing the UK or are we doing England?
00:42:04
Speaker
The UK, does that matter? All of them are going to be in England anyway, I think. What do Wales and Scotland have? Megaphobia? Is that going to make it? yeah. um ultimately That park's closed anyway. Alright, never mind. um um that is That is what I've... i just had ah I just had a last second thought of just like, oh wait, megaphobia?
00:42:29
Speaker
But um yeah, that park's closed. um Okay. so Whatever. Yeah. Okay, you can't. I have Hyperia, Nemesis Reborn, Stealth,
00:42:47
Speaker
Smiler,
00:42:52
Speaker
That's just me, I think. Smiler's very okay. What else? ah Nemesis Inferno. o Icon needs to be over Smiler. Icon was my five. Again, I've never been on any of these. but Icon over Smiler. Icon over Smiler for sure.
00:43:11
Speaker
I'd put big one on my list too. you See, okay. You know why I'll be okay with that? You know why I'll be okay with Icon over a Smiler? The best ride I've had on smiler was better than anything I've had on Icon.
00:43:26
Speaker
But it is the only, like, it's the only incredible ride I've had on Smiler. Every other ride I've had on it, just aight. Mediocre. It's fine. um Plus Enzo. Icon is a bit more consistent.
00:43:42
Speaker
Even without, like i've not I've not, I ah i mean, i I moved here before they put Enzo on that thing. um Enzo was pretty good. icon ah Icon has been more consistent.
00:43:53
Speaker
but me I think you gotta put Icon over Smiler for sure. yeah Others I don't know if I really disagree with though.
00:44:01
Speaker
that was um is Is Sick worth mentioning over i literally havet lighted up like Inferno? No. I haven't written Sick, but it looks pretty sick.
00:44:14
Speaker
How good is Swarm? Swarm is good. so I would have put Swarm over Smiler. um Would you put it over Icon? No.
00:44:25
Speaker
I would put Icon over Nemesis Inferno. um I wouldn't. I think... Nemesis Inferno might... but i ah You will never get me to say Inferno's better than Reborn. It's not. and and But it might be it might it might be the coaster... It might be the UK coaster that has aged the best.
00:44:46
Speaker
It's gotten much more punchy over the years. From all accounts, not even just my own, but then also riding it last year again, I was just like, oh, the yeah, it's it was riding it in the afternoon. It was doing some things. It's riding real well.
00:45:05
Speaker
I think stealth is definitely good enough to get on there. i agree. Yes. And then i would say probably...
00:45:18
Speaker
I would probably say Icon next, and then, like... I mean, Inferno's pretty good. i just... I don't know. Swarm could be better than Inferno for me, but Inferno really good. the Yeah, after after thinking about it, after getting on both of them last year, I was like, I solidly, solidly prefer Inferno to Swarm.
00:45:43
Speaker
Personally, that that's that's just me, but... I know Swarm has its fans as well.
00:45:51
Speaker
I remember Swarm more than I remember Inferno. If that makes any kind of difference. But I'm kind of indifferent. I just think Inferno's better. I've ridden them both two different years.
00:46:05
Speaker
It's really close. I'd be fine with Stealth Icon Inferno.
00:46:12
Speaker
I'm happy with that. Yeah, Icon for sure. Yeah. Stealth icon Inferno. So Smiler's not making it? No.
00:46:23
Speaker
Ooh, okay. I would put Swarm Over. i lot i feel like that's a hot take. I would put Swarm Over Smiler. Smiler is more photogenic than it is rideable. Okay.
00:46:37
Speaker
I'll say that. Seems pretty mean, it didn't beat up or anything, but like, just doesn't, like, that many inversions. It doesn't do anything for me. It doesn't do a whole lot. I mean, don't.
00:46:48
Speaker
I just sat and counted them the whole ride. I did count them both times, yeah, both rides I rode it, so. I like that list for the UK. Cool. I've slightly changed the groups, because this group is way too strong. Yeah.
00:47:03
Speaker
so ill I'll tell you when we get there. this it's It's still the group of death, but it's less of a group of death. Okay. so Next up, we got Germany.
00:47:15
Speaker
Yeah, actually, I didn't i didn't i didn't actually realize howary how strong it was. Germany. yeah it was Yeah, it was not fair. I'll read Germany if everyone's okay with that.
00:47:25
Speaker
Sure. go for We're going to have a debate here, I think. We're going to have a debate. This wrong is a strong country, but I have opinions, and I actually i actually have six now. another You can't.
00:47:43
Speaker
I have six in case have to debate. You can't. I'm going to read five, but then we'll see how it goes. I've got one that really want. Okay. Voltron is number one.
00:47:56
Speaker
I'm just going to add that already. yeah Then I have, yeah, that's not going to be contested. Then I have Expedition GeForce. Ooh, that's hot. It's not. i if if if the If they're not in order, it's not.
00:48:09
Speaker
It's not in order, yeah. Yeah, i guess it's me. Yeah. I have Taron. There you go. i have I have Karnan. Okay. And I have Fly. Yep.
00:48:20
Speaker
Okay. That's my exact list. That's my exact list. Expedition GeForce has the strongest airtime think I've ever felt. Yeah, well, I actually made the joke, and um not to plug my video that's coming out on Saturday, which will be before this is uploaded, but...
00:48:36
Speaker
um I literally titled that video is expedition G force underrated now because it's been around for 25 years and not a lot of Americans have written it at this point and everyone forgets about it.
00:48:51
Speaker
And it's, and I wrote it, um, two months ago now, or not, not even two months ago. Now it is, it's that girl. i It's so good. I don't, I don't, don't like,
00:49:07
Speaker
ah i've I've heard i've heard the um Americans talk about that ride really since like the mid-2000s. I don't really think it's that underrated at i all, to be honest. It's Europe's Millennium Force, essentially, right? in No.
00:49:24
Speaker
no that' not and not even Not even in that sense. I just think... ah like i I feel like that it kind of it kind of is in the sense that it came out in this in like the same time period, and they have the same trains, they have the same restraints, but...
00:49:37
Speaker
I think it became legendary amongst US enthusiast awareness because of It it has stronger airtime. not But I feel like... Probably more airtime as well, but specifically stronger airtime.
00:49:51
Speaker
But it's it's unbelievably stronger than Millennium Force. But um I think in the past decade or so, it's faded. um in talks because of like just it's getting older and i guess you could say that try and tear in and you know i guess all that so it it rides as if millennium had the power of sky rush is how I would describe it.
USA Rollercoaster Debate
00:50:19
Speaker
I mean, that's... And I don't think I'm understating it. Or I don't think I'm overstating it. Anyway, I don't know if need to argue it. It's how, like, everyone agreed with my list. I'm gonna throw some other coasters out there. Let's just talk about it.
00:50:31
Speaker
i had well I'll say I had Colossus. No. as like a i did i did know I did think about Colossus, but ultimately decided no. Black Mamba. That was a very strong contender for me.
00:50:45
Speaker
on the back I don't see anything I would take it off for that. um I think this one's very underrated. You'll probably... Fluke Von Novgorod. I thought about that.
00:50:57
Speaker
One of the best launches out there. after um month It's actually... Fluke for me is like Anubis for you. After the launch, I think it's like fine.
00:51:08
Speaker
i do I do like the drop at the end. um And I rode Carajo at Trip's Drill, and I would put that above. Okay. That's a shot. didn't think about that one.
00:51:19
Speaker
That's a shot. And Hall Zuberkoff, and neither of them made this list. I did consider Hall Zuberkoff. Colorado Adventure is really good Thank you. It is. really It's very good. i want to I want to put it in. I don't know. i wouldn't There's nothing I would take out for that. Yeah, that's kind of my fault. Yeah.
00:51:38
Speaker
I'm trying to justify it against any of them, and I i just – I want to put Colorado in there. We got Woden. Woden's the last one I'll throw out there. Woden is very good, and I still wish it could make it, but I just don't – it's my number two at Europa, and I still i still can't do it. I can't.
00:51:58
Speaker
Arthur?
00:52:02
Speaker
Arthur, if we were doing songs um yeah associated with or on rides, it would be number one
00:52:11
Speaker
I mean, it's hard for me to say because I haven't been on Expedition, but I love Black Mamba and I love Novgorod. um I'm just going to... Do you know what? says you know what i I... i
00:52:25
Speaker
i would i I wouldn't be opposed to putting in Colorado Adventure in there over Keanu. no oh No. No, no. You could convince me to put Call of Adventure over Taron.
00:52:37
Speaker
no No. Now you're being silly. Absolutely not. i I don't know how hot of a take this is. Karnet feels like an Intamin to me, and that's why it's so good. Karnet's fantastic.
00:52:49
Speaker
It's top 15 for me overall. It has to be in there. Not as high for me, but still really good. I can't- can't- Well, Expedition G-Force my 9 overall, and Voltron's my number 1, so. I can't justify Colorado over Taron, over Voltron, over Fly, over Expedition G-Force.
00:53:05
Speaker
Yeah. It actually- it stands to be said that- I'll give out of my leave often see you Four of these five are in my top 15. Oof.
00:53:17
Speaker
o Nate has opinions. And Fly is at my top 30. Germany is strong for sure. yeah Yeah. So what do what what do we say? i had Voltron, GeForce, Terran, Karnan, and Fly. yeahp Agreed. So the exact list that I also had. yeah Yes. And apparently Mikhail too.
00:53:40
Speaker
Yeah, no, i had I had that exact same list. I was just trying really hard to get Colorado Adventure in there. But not at the detriment of Terran. no, no. no Colorado Adventure is the best mine train I've ever ridden. The best mine train. The best. Does it make it top five in Germany? The best.
00:54:00
Speaker
In another country. I prefer... that in Belgium and it makes it... Yeah. I prefer Colorado Adventure to Black Mamba. I'll say that.
00:54:12
Speaker
Honestly, they're all... they're They're both good, so I can't really... I feel like that's hot. all right I feel like that might be a hot take. Wait, we didn't put Cobra from Gizelwind on there?
00:54:24
Speaker
Oh my god. We didn't put Wilde Hilda. Or Silver Star. It's Espino. anyway Wait, where's that? Silver Star? That was a joke. It's because I forget that it's there when I'm at Europa.
00:54:39
Speaker
Alright, I will take this next one. um As we have come to the country of Japan. This should be yours. this Country of Japan. that I don't think you have it the five spot will be debatable probably. We got Hakuge.
00:54:58
Speaker
If I'm not pronouncing that correctly. How did you pronounce it earlier? Hakuge is what I said. i don't know if I'm saying it right either. I've heard many different pronunciations. I think it's Hakuge. Hakuge.
00:55:10
Speaker
I don't know. The person who's been to Japan, how is it pronounced? I've always said Hakuge. But then some of people say Zadra and Zadra, so who the hell knows? Zadra. Zadra. Obviously, Ijenayka.
00:55:25
Speaker
here obviously flying dinosaur obviously obviously pyrenees there you go now i don't even know what my five is i'm probably gonna say fujuyama just because it's so friggin absurd <unk>s it's it's the magnum of japan of just it's so bad it's good
00:55:48
Speaker
Why have I not heard that before? that meant i was Because I was i was thinking, i was thinking you you're not the only person I've heard describe Fujiyama as like just absurd, just like, what the F, like like yeah is what is this coaster? but then i i could never i could never see I could never see why that was the case, obviously having not ridden it myself. And then you said the Magnum of Japan, and it makes it all of a sudden it makes so much sense.
00:56:16
Speaker
You don't know how bad I want to ride Fujiyana with Laurel because it's like it's perfect. You get to wave to people on the tower. oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The profiling of those last turns is like should be illegal. like it is is It's magnum all over again.
00:56:34
Speaker
Yes, it's literally magnum. um So, yeah, that's my five very, very close to Thunder Dolphin. um I'll throw Jupiter at Kijmokujin as a contender as well. thought about Jupiter.
00:56:48
Speaker
Kawasemi. That was one of the ones I put. What? Although, low-key, I have no nodes. Kawasemi is fun. Yeah. I like Brian's list.
00:57:00
Speaker
I Brian has already on this list. I rounded mine out with Bandit. ah you Okay, I did not get to ride Bandit because of a... Literally a two-hour delay caused me to miss just that park.
00:57:15
Speaker
Cause we were well like a reindele. Oh, no. Cause we were going to land at like 5 PM and sightsee that night. oh and we didn't land until like seven or eight and we were exhausted. So like, you know what? We'll sacrifice, uh, what's the name of the park? Um, Yomiuri land for a sightseeing day the next day. And then we went to, so that's Kyle. I was about to roast you so hard until I found out that I'm an idiot.
00:57:43
Speaker
When you said bandit, I thought you meant the RCCA, and I realized that's in Germany. I was like, is it RCCA? I now understand it's Togo. I take it back.
00:57:55
Speaker
yeah It's that Togo, like, yeah yeah. Thank you for realizing the error a few ways. It's like a Togo Mega terrain coaster. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.
00:58:08
Speaker
It looks awesome. writing that tilt down by the way. Another one I thought of for Japan was Surf Coast or Leviathan. Yeah. that apparently that bit on that one but Apparently that's like a super sleeper hit as well.
00:58:26
Speaker
And like, we can mention Ultra Twister. I did originally put Ultra Twister actually. I had to think about the Ultra Twisters. Is it okay? Is it just alright? It's weird. It's fun. It's not top five.
00:58:39
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, it's one of those weird, quirky um yeah things that's on my bucket list because it looks weird as hell. For the novelty, for sure. But if we're talking quality rollercoaster, it's not top five. It's not beating Fujiyama or Steel Dolphin. Or, I'm sorry, Thunder Dolphin. or we I didn't even mention Steel Dragon. Oops.
00:59:01
Speaker
um i but I was about to say what I said. have it on my list, but honestly... Also, didn't you you ah also it's to I didn't didn't mention Steel Dolphin for China as well. yeah um yeah I did think about that one. um But yeah, know what about ah what about Steel Dragon?
00:59:19
Speaker
Steel Dragon, Thunder Dolphin, and Fujiyama are all very close in my rankings. i actually forgot which one I had higher. I want to Fujiyama.
00:59:30
Speaker
Steel Dragon looks like Giga Magnum. it's it's It's more like Mamba. I was going to say it looks... Like Steel Force.
00:59:42
Speaker
Honestly, it doesn't look like an era as good as my game.
00:59:48
Speaker
I think I would be happy with... Did we sit do we say Fujiyama as well? Like that like for that for that last spot? That's what I have. and that i'm also I'm throwing in the the entire Mount Fuji with it.
01:00:04
Speaker
Yeah, just the whole thing. What
01:00:12
Speaker
so what what was the fourth one? or like What's the official Japan list per Bryant? Flying Dinosaur. Yeah. Okugei. Ijanaika. Pyrenees.
01:00:23
Speaker
Fujigama. Pyrenees, that's the one I forgot. yeah
01:00:28
Speaker
The one you didn't want to name it. Pyrenees looks so good. It's okay. I like it. What's the... hold on Hold on. Before we move on, I want to see where this is. and i can't Pyrenees looks like like only the only... Oh, it's in South Korea. Never mind. The only invert that could... so that could that I haven't written that could be Montu for me.
01:00:51
Speaker
Fafn looks good, but that's in South Korea. So what? I guess it's pronounced Python. According to, oh is it Python? Yeah. I know it's either way. Yeah. So looks it looks good, but it's not in the country we're doing. Yeah. Slight controversy. I didn't mention South Korea did not make it. Um, don't know. Other after, uh, T express or whatever it's mo Monimo rush.
01:01:13
Speaker
Uh, oh yeah but forgot it got renamed it's a new name um you know they got a raptor they got that invert and they got a dive coaster meh and they've got that that um is that intimate aqua tracks yeah yeah yeah that one as well oh yeah i mean it probably should have made it but you know with 16 countries that's all right oh well sorry south korea I did remove the last country i had. I put it in Group D.
World Cup Tournament Results Discussion
01:01:45
Speaker
We're going to do Australia now.
01:01:46
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah, i was like, what country do I get to? a yeah good eye i know we got we got some Australia. which I feel like there won't be too much debate about Australia. Probably not. Struggled to figure out what the good ones in Australia are. um Riley, if you are ever listening to this, I'm sorry.
01:02:04
Speaker
ha I don't know if he actually listens, but um I put DC Rivals. Yeah. Steel Taipan.
01:02:16
Speaker
Leviathan. Scenic Railway. And Superman Escape.
01:02:23
Speaker
ah What about Big Dipper? Scenic Railway. The Intamin Hot Racer. Yeah, forgot about that one. so Yeah, I think... I mean, I like Scenic really as an as an inclusion for like historical and it's a break, man, and it could be really fun.
01:02:40
Speaker
But an Intamin Hot Racer... I don't know. Yeah, I did have Big Differ in my list. Yeah, me too. And I can't spell Big Differ. What were other ones you said, Allison? It's nine letters, my guy.
01:02:56
Speaker
I didn't mean i can't type it, actually. what ah What were the other ones you said, Allison? DC Rivals, Steel Tampon, Leviathan, Superman Escape. I might throw... That's that's that's my list.
01:03:10
Speaker
I might throw Scooby-Doo Spooky Coaster on there. That's like a really good wild mouse. Like, super well-themed. There's also the wooden wild mouse.
01:03:22
Speaker
Oh yeah, Luna Park. Oh, and there's the single rail there too. Yeah, that's the Hot Racer. Sorry. yeah Shout out our friend Harrison. gotta say Scooby-Doy.
01:03:34
Speaker
okay Scooby-Doy. Earth's own, and no, I don't think Abyss said... a Adventure World is unfortunately going to make it. yeah i Yeah, I did think about Abyss and I was like, if Saw's not making UK, then Abyss ain't making Australia. Yeah, we got Green Lantern, one of the steepest coasters in the world.
01:03:53
Speaker
El Loco model. oh yeah I just thought of Jungle Rush at Dream World.
01:04:02
Speaker
Honestly, yeah. The Vekoma family coast that goes backwards at some point. It does. That's honestly. That's kind of cool. That's going to be my five. sorry Sorry for the history, but.
01:04:15
Speaker
You just eliminated history. yeah so we've got dc rivals leviathan super mask superman escape superman for sure and then uh steel type pan and big or oh i don't know steel type pan do we have that steel type pan make sure yeah that's definitely okay so that's okay so there's one left um I have Big Dipper. Between, what, Big Dipper, Jungle Rush? I had Big Dipper.
01:04:49
Speaker
I did have Big Dipper. um The field is open for contending arguments. I could concede to Big Dipper. I mean, Big Dipper, that is my exact top five. I'll give Big Dipper. I think majority rules here.
01:05:02
Speaker
Okay. and Cool with that. I don't know enough about Australia to argue in favor of anything. So for that one random single rail, it's in a park. It's not really even a coaster. It's just a rail that you can like pull up to one spot. I'm just kidding.
01:05:18
Speaker
I was just going on a ramble. The hell did you just say? I'll find it. Give me a second. I'll find it. I'll show you. But continue on because it's not relevant, really.
01:05:32
Speaker
um So we're going to pick the one and the two? Yeah. so I think we know our top two, probably. Yeah. It's just whatever we're in. So obviously. yeah It's got to be Germany for sure as one. Germany one, Japan two.
01:05:47
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. in Japan? ah like ah they Yeah? are we are we Are we sure on that? um This thing in Australia.
01:06:00
Speaker
Oh yeah, that's new number one right there. It's literally you just do it yourself. So shout out ah Orphan Raka, which has been Espino since before I was born. yeah It really has been orphaned.
01:06:15
Speaker
yes yeah um
01:06:23
Speaker
Hold on. um let me Let me think through this. Germany, Japan, it's that's a good to debate. we might have to We might have to put these in order and like like do one versus one, and two versus two, three versus three. Oh, i have hard bracket. I know A1's facing B2, B1's facing C2. No, no, no. I'm talking about just between Germany and Japan to like decide who's...
Group C: USA Coasters Analysis
01:06:48
Speaker
I'll be honest with you I don't think it's close. I know haven't been to Japan. It's family close definitely It's definitely close. Get the hell out here. I don't know. food um I know Fujiyama would be fantastic and Pyrenees is fantastic, but I don't think they compete with, like, Fly, Taron, Konda. I don't... Sorry.
01:07:03
Speaker
Karnan. Not Konda. Karnan. As someone who was... As someone who was ridden... Wait, Brian, you've ridden Voltron, right? Oh. Yeah. Number one. As someone who was ridden both, comp compare Voltron and Ijinaika.
01:07:18
Speaker
I mean, Voltron's my number one. Yeah, there you go okay but myness is it Is it that much better than each, than each though? Not that much better, but it's better. Like, solidly better? Okay. yeah Here's the thing, though.
01:07:34
Speaker
If I'm ranking Japan and Germany 1 through 10, I got Voltron 1, and my next three are Japan.
01:07:41
Speaker
There you go. Before Germany's number two, which would probably be fly for me. so See, that wrong opinion is where I...
01:07:58
Speaker
Just kidding. um Man, I don't... See, for me, I know I haven't been to Japan, Ridden X too, but... ah ah Honestly, the winner is Japan for me.
01:08:11
Speaker
To me, Voltron, EGF, and Terran are all in my top 10. And I got three, those three in Japan are in my top 10. but Ejenika, Hakuge,
01:08:26
Speaker
and Flying Dino. thylight i'm going to break this this between Flying Dinosaur, Pyrenees, and... let's be honest, probably Ijenika.
01:08:38
Speaker
Yeah, I gotta go Japan, dude. like to to one Germany. Oh, God. oh is Is Mike home?
01:08:50
Speaker
yeah We need to call somebody. Phone a friend. Honestly, we can hold this. I could text ah Taylor and he could be the deciding focus. I think of people who been who' have done both. i think I think Germany's top five are closer together than the three and two. Fair.
01:09:16
Speaker
So I think Germany's top five end before you get through Japan's top five. And I will agree Germany, like if we're going beyond top five, is better than Japan. But there's only so only so many players can make the team in this in this World Cup. so Right. Well, what I mean is like I think Voltron beats three – for you even. Voltron beats the three – Top three, Japan, which all come next. But then I think you have four German coasters before you get the last two Japanese ones, I think.
01:09:50
Speaker
I don't know if I'd put – again, I haven't been on G-Force. I don't know if I'd put G-Force over Pyrenees. Okay. um ae and There's no invert in the world that beats EGF. to And I love inverts, but there's just no chance.
01:10:05
Speaker
to mate for To me, for EGF to be beaten by... I could probably see preferring GeForce. We can save this discussion until the end. I'm literally... I know Taylor's with a big group right now. um'm i'm I'm texting our group chat right now.
01:10:18
Speaker
The one that everyone's in besides Jen?
01:10:23
Speaker
No. Different group chat. Oh, okay. I don't know how to do a poll on this, but we're just...
01:10:30
Speaker
Nate will get this text in a moment. he's oh there's like We have 12 people in that chat. None of which have been to Japan. Really good debate. Yeah, how many of them have been to Japan? Zero. I will say this. think of the five that we've got for both countries,
01:10:48
Speaker
i will say i will i will i will say this on i think of the five that we've got for both for both countries For Germany's, I could, like i could up as objectively as I could say, all five of them have a legit, like, not, I guess it depends who you ask. We gotta vote for someone who's been to neither. I get down to Karnan and I'm like, yeah, okay, like, yeah, if we're talking realistically, thus that that's, like, top five is not really even debatable. um
01:11:19
Speaker
For Japan, Fujiyama, I could say, is debatable.
01:11:25
Speaker
Like you run out of undebatables for Japan. Yeah, that's true. We got to vote for Japan in the group chat. Okay, wellll well, we'll circle back to that and then see who wins that one. We got to go to group c now.
01:11:39
Speaker
Yes. It's the USA. i can i can do this one. I'm going to try to do... I know it's not going to match mine. A mixture of me, us, and a consensus as a whole the best as I can.
01:11:54
Speaker
Yeah, I couldn't do that. was Just straight up. That one. Velocicus. Velocicus. Yes. Voyage. Mm-hmm.
01:12:08
Speaker
Stardust. No. No. No. There's not enough. No. Stardust is not better than enough. I'm sorry. There's not enough. Do you know what's hilarious? There's many. Do you know what's hilarious? There's too many better. I forgot about Stardust.
01:12:23
Speaker
I didn't forget about it. That's how ridiculous this is going to be. I don't know how we're going to decide at top five. for one yeah Most people would say Steel Vengeance. I feel like Steel Vengeance wouldn't make Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I'd put Stardust over Steel Vengeance. Well, yeah.
01:12:43
Speaker
I'd rather have Stardust on the top five than Steel Vengeance. Hell no. Well, Vengeance, I think, reserves the spot in the top five. Absolutely not. heard Gwazi. No. I'd put Gwazi. I'd put Gwazi.
01:12:55
Speaker
Gwazi, no Vengeance. I'd be okay with that. As of the day of this recording, Air Force 1.
01:13:03
Speaker
right Over vengeance, at least. If we're making a one RMC rule, do we make a one RMC rule for US? Yes. And Iron Gwazi is it. Iron Gwazi is it. Please. No, in that case, I'm saying Outlaw Run. You not not you guys aren't going to agree. But, um...
01:13:24
Speaker
Oversteal Vengeance, I would. and then, mean... You could say Maverick. um No, I'm sorry. Well, okay, let's continue. You could say Skyrush.
01:13:37
Speaker
Yes. Fury 325. I have Fury. Fury 325. Okay. so I'm personally going to say Velocicoaster Voyage. I'm saying Stardust. I don't care. on you Fury and Gwazi. Are we not putting Cedar Open Heaven and Cedar Point Coaster on this list? that would be i love and i i have I have Top Thrill Pantherian. have top throw, too. Or I-305, whatever. ah Not for me, but... Oh, my goodness. I have Skyrush over. Okay, Velocico's Skyrush Voyage. This is gonna be impossible, by the way. Skyrush is not easy.
01:14:16
Speaker
Okay. I think it's easy. i that's that's a That's a perfect top throw. El Toro, we got El Toro. got Phantom's Revenge. We got Phantom's Revenge. If we're going off just, like...
01:14:29
Speaker
fas General top five consensus, I think I i have Iron Gwazi, Velocicoaster, Voyage, Skyrush, Fury. It's a very comprehensive top five. do you not have Stardust on this list? You've got to put 325 on my list. got put the numbers. We have another Fury.
01:14:47
Speaker
i i I can't get behind Stardust top five. I can't. i can't I can't get behind that. I agree with you, Bryant. um I love it. go I love it. It's awesome. It speaks to how stacked the U.S. is.
01:15:03
Speaker
Yeah. You could just have Florida in this and it would compete in this World Cup. Right! yeah ah You could almost have Ohio compared to some countries. yeah And we don't even have an Ohio coaster on here.
01:15:16
Speaker
yeah we talk okay We don't need one. Okay, so VelociCoaster and Voyage, are those the only real true consensus? And am Gwazi. I think we argue about that. I don't i don't have Gwazi in mind. i see why I see why it would make sense to put it in there, though.
01:15:34
Speaker
You guys picked the other two. I would say Fury is the third lock, personally. would say Fury. Fury is a lock, for sure. Especially general consensus, Fury. yeah Fine with that. We need to beat him.
01:15:46
Speaker
Yeah. And that's the best B&M you can get in the US. Except it's closed right now. Well, it's not SPNO. It's just... Yeah, I know. um i'm I'm okay with not having i305 because it's it's I'll admit it's polarizing. If we're not putting Stardust, we're not putting it. I'm happy with Skyrush. Skyrush, yeah. I would put Skyrush.
01:16:14
Speaker
All right. but If US loses this World Cup, we know why. but Well, they didn't really win the real one. wait. Okay, so Blosscoaster, Fury, Voyage.
01:16:29
Speaker
Skyrush, Iron Gwazi. I feel like we can do better than Skyrush. I will say that. You don't have time to do better than Skyrush right now. There's an answer right there, but you know. X2? Oh, I wouldn't know.
01:16:45
Speaker
Sorry. um Mystic Timbers. you know ah No. We're running out of you know get icons. Thunderhead. No, we're not putting Thunderhead over Skyrush.
01:16:57
Speaker
Not over El Toro. I'd put it in there before I put Mystic Timbers in there. Well, I wouldn't put over El Toro. We don't even have El Toro. Yeah, El Toro would probably... I had a great run. Yeah, El Toro. Yeah, okay okay, yeah. Yeah, I... so wait, why not El Toro?
01:17:15
Speaker
Because it's not as good as the other ones. it's I would put it over Steel Vengeance and over Stardust, Would you put it over Skyrush? No.
01:17:26
Speaker
But you're asking me. That's that's just me. Nate only has a long opinion. Skyrush, no, I don't. But Skyrush was my number one until I'll... I rode Foss Coaster and I i really need some Rewrite Skyrim. Can I just say like I know listeners right there's many listeners right now that are just screaming at their phones.
01:17:48
Speaker
I don't think people will be as mad ah about Stardust as they will Steel Vengeance and that makes me want Steel Vengeance on their glass. We're pissing off Florida and Ohio. Fantastic.
01:18:01
Speaker
Wildcats Revenge but I don't They had a one RMC rule. Yeah I know. yeah Yeah, nobody likes my US top 10, like, er, my US rankings. so i have do we have to do we have to decide between, um, what the hell, um, Steel Vengeance and Gwazi for the fourth spot?
01:18:22
Speaker
It's Gwazi. Realistically, it's between them two. Should we put them both in? Should we put them both in? No.
01:18:30
Speaker
Steel Vengeance is going to lose the cup for the U.S. For the sake of moving through the field, we might have to put both of them in. And what change out what?
01:18:45
Speaker
Skyrush? Hell, no! No way! Fine, we'll put Skyrush. We'll put Skyrush. I need, well, Jen would be arguing against Voyage, but I need Jen here to argue against Steel Visions with me. This podcast would half hour longer. And I'm already, like, worried about time. Yeah, well, okay. I'll put Skyrush. Put Skyrush.
01:19:08
Speaker
Ugh, I feel dirty for that. I know. no that That is the right answer. yeah In fact, there's only one coaster on that list that's better than Skyrush, and it's Velocity. That's Forens. Okay.
01:19:23
Speaker
Anyway, Poland. Who wants to Poland? Wait, okay, so, wait, we do do we have five? That's four, is it not? Iron Gwazi, Velazquez, Skyrouse, and Fury.
01:19:34
Speaker
Three, two, five. yeah Because we have another Fury on here. Nice. Poland should be quick, I think. I'll do Poland.
Poland and Vietnam's Top Coasters
01:19:45
Speaker
Okay, I guess I'll go ahead. um I did write these in order. I just went there. um Hyperion, Zadra, Lek, Abyssus, and Formula.
01:19:59
Speaker
And then I guess we could talk about Akila, but I really think Formula and Abyssus top. I would go Akila over Formula, I think.
01:20:13
Speaker
yeah Thank you. what i did I don't know that. I'm just the way it paces. i'm just not I'm just the way it paces.
01:20:25
Speaker
Also just for the great variety of variety. Alright, hold on. I'm pulling up a Coaster Studios POV. I need to see what the hype about. Another great review you should watch, by the way. cuba Okay.
01:20:38
Speaker
I need to see what this hype is about. One of the least talked about GCIs is where actually it's Heidi the Ride. Nevermind. It's not werewolf. at a Yeah, it is it is a good one, but it is Heidi the Ride. It's the third lightning. I can't even see what's happening on this coaster.
01:20:55
Speaker
So shout out Rollercoaster Mayan, actually a good SOC. um I'm not compared to like nor'easter. Yeah, Zyperian. Zyperian, what is wrong with me?
01:21:07
Speaker
I'm Zyperian. Zadra, Hyperion, Letkosa. To be fair, three of the four of us said Akila. Akila and Abyss. There we go. I would put it over Formula, I guess, because it looks pretty fun. I didn't realize if you said... It's longer than Formula. Would you say Zyperian?
01:21:25
Speaker
Yes. yeah if you i didn't I didn't realize if you mix the other it the other way, it's Hydra.
01:21:33
Speaker
It is. Anyway. Yeah, I think Poland's a lock with Akilah. Poland's low-key. If we're going to agree on that. Yeah. Poland is really strong. But you got to think that... I mean, I guess it doesn't matter if it falls off after that, but it does fall off after that.
01:21:53
Speaker
Euromir. Duh. No, Euromir in Poland. well's Such a fun ride. there's a you Look it up, Brad. You're going to love it. i'm sure i'm sure i'm sure It's launched. I'm sure it's great. It rolled back it was wild.
01:22:09
Speaker
Speaking of really good Vekomas, underrated country that I threw on here. Vietnam. that I know none of us have been to.
01:22:20
Speaker
Nope, I could barely find five. I really know where you were going with this one. but Okay, top four phenomenal. but I think there's a top five. ah Yeah, yeah, i got to top I got to a top five with it.
01:22:34
Speaker
Especially, literally, as of this week, it move bit yeah really boosted its top four. so i mean i am I'm indifferent, and I will ah let you all decide.
01:22:48
Speaker
I'll read this one and I'll just take Group D off because so I did USA. um Wrath of Zeus looks incredible. I did have that. The Vekoma Firestorm.
01:22:59
Speaker
Yes. Currently only one of its kind because the other one was SBNO. Yeah, that looks wild. Much better themed one. Literally opening this week, Tilt of Thunder, which is a Siren's Curse clone, I believe.
01:23:13
Speaker
Yes. and I wrote that down as Tilty Boy because I couldn't remember the name. shout out dragon's run which if you don't know has some unbelievable lore yeah it does that was v&m sit down that was at hard rock park indeed yeah freestyle music freestyle yeah freestyle machine wasn't it like led zeppelin too at one point yeah yeah led zeppelin the ride yeah And then Roaring Timbers, hello, that ride looks... Now, there's... That's a ride. There's, there's, there's the top boy.
01:23:52
Speaker
Yeah. The saddest, like, maybe one of best rides I've ever seen. No, that was only four. The five you had to reach for, I'm putting a ride called Mine Adventure, also at Vin Wonders, where Tilted Thunder is.
01:24:07
Speaker
It looks like a very good Vekoma Mine train, kind of like Calendemine. Yeah, that's the one I landed on. I put Warrior Challenge because I didn't know what else to put.
01:24:19
Speaker
um I think the only one... Well, let me look at Warrior Challenge. Yeah. I don't know what that is. I don't know what it is you're going to talking about. It's a switchback that we discussed earlier. The Vekoma switchback that we discussed for another country. don't remember which country. Is that Balara in the background is that a War Sled? Anyway.
01:24:37
Speaker
um ah vlari is not ah The only one i would maybe argue is Lost Valley, but it actually just looks like a shorter version of Mine Adventure.
01:24:53
Speaker
It's also a Mine Tree. and But I think it's just a smaller Mine Adventure. No, it's they're the same size, but okay as to which is better, they're almost the same. Okay. Shout out to the start of the episode where I said I found another mine train.
01:25:08
Speaker
This was this is it. yeah but love it Love that. No one talks about Vietnam. and like through like It's actually a really good collection there.
01:25:20
Speaker
I'm not mad at mine adventure at five. Yeah, yeah that's that's my that's my fifth pick. Sure. Here we go. Oh, man. All right. Next up, Nate. You have claimed Sweden.
Sweden and Group D Results
01:25:32
Speaker
I claimed Sweden, but then I read Poland. Do we want to give someone else chance? I want to Sweden. Yeah, let Allison do Sweden. I love Sweden. Okay. All right. I have not an order necessarily, but Helix, Balder, Wildfire, Monster, and then I had to do it. Insane.
01:25:52
Speaker
Yeah, you read my exact top five. the mean except i put I put Insane over Monster, but they're not really in order. so so it ain't so Even aside from the joke, Insane is a lot of fun. so Insane is awesome.
01:26:05
Speaker
Insane's really good. So I had Valkyria for my fifth spot. was very underwhelmed by Valkyria. What about Leesburg Bonnen?
01:26:16
Speaker
Oh, man, that's a good one. I'd put that over monster. i know. Yeah, I would be willing to put that over monster. Would that break the park? No, wildfire. Nevermind. Um, Insane is my favorite at Grown-A-Lund, personally. I know that might be a hot take.
01:26:31
Speaker
Well, that's what I was just thinking. I've never been like that enamored by both Zac spins, although shout out Keanu at Lennon Maki, that's a fun one. Or like 4D free spins, so I i didn't really think of Insane. Don't put those in the same sentence, please.
01:26:50
Speaker
Well, i i'm not really um I've not really been that bothered about either of them. so um I hate 40 free spins, but I love both sag spins I've ridden. I think they're very vastly different.
01:27:03
Speaker
um That's fair. ah But Liseberg... Liseberg... Liseberg Bannon versus Monster, you got I'll leave that up to you. Liseberg Bannon is that good.
01:27:17
Speaker
Yeah, it's very good. Schwarzkopf's favorite, Schwarzkopf. um I didn't. Yeah. it knew
01:27:26
Speaker
I can't remember where I heard that quote before. I have heard that before. Yeah, I can't remember where though. Yeah, i like I like having insane and Lisa Berg bought in. Yeah, me too. I'm happy with that. Okay.
01:27:39
Speaker
So no monster. Okay. also So four Lisa Berg and one Cole Martin. Yeah. okay Okay. Wait, no, Grunaland. Oh, insane and Grunaland. Three Lisa Berg, one Grunaland, one Cole Martin.
01:27:56
Speaker
Alright, I think we can agree the US wins the group. That's a grown-a-land! Yeah. Grown-a-land! USA's won. Poland's two?
01:28:08
Speaker
Poland's phone points too Absolutely. yeah I'm so glad that we argued over Sweden for that. yeah i just I just like the thought of Leesburg-Boschner. Yeah, we gotta embrace debate.
01:28:20
Speaker
Sweden would be three. i I know Vietnam looks cool, but... i love I love Helix and Balder too much. far And Wildfire's there. yeah I don't like New Vekoma enough to put Vietnam third. Yeah, Sweden third.
01:28:34
Speaker
good yeah But doesn't matter. They're both out. Naturally. Group D. we got denmarkks
01:28:49
Speaker
Who else has been to Denmark and who else has been to France?
Denmark and France's Top Coasters
01:28:51
Speaker
I was going to say I'll do France so someone else can do Denmark. I've been to Denmark and ah like so I can do Denmark. Okay. um So for Denmark, I have Fenix? Fonix?
01:29:08
Speaker
They told me that day in the park that it was Fenix, but I can't even make that sound. So we'll just say Fonix for now. Um... Puritan.
01:29:20
Speaker
um you
01:29:23
Speaker
Hot take. Falcon is incredible. What's that one again? Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. It's an S&S Woody, but it oh yeahy yeah it's it's actually really smooth for an S&S Woody, and it's got some crazy airtime.
01:29:39
Speaker
um Then I have Lynette. I do have Lynette. And I think... I think the popular choice um for bakn or for for Denmark would be Tornado at Bakken, which I personally despise. I didn't even think of. So I wrote down Mine Train Olven at Bakken, which is... That's a shout. That looks really good. a stupid, fun family coaster by Intamin.
01:30:06
Speaker
it It's crazy. We're putting Rushinban in. I'm sorry, Nate. We're putting Rushinban in. I did have Rushinban in. You can put Rishbonne over Lynette for sure. Juvalen? Isn't that really good? Juvalen is good.
01:30:21
Speaker
um That one is really good. um And I wouldn't be mad at that being in the top five. Mind Train Olven is a shout. I've wanted to ride that for a long time. Mind Train Olven probably doesn't deserve a top five, but I'm glad I mentioned it. It's so good. Oh no, it might.
01:30:39
Speaker
It's like, what is going on? I'd co-sign it over Lynette. I think Keratin is in there, no argument. It's a mega light. It's good. um I had a Vinfold on my list.
01:30:52
Speaker
No, it sucks. It's rough. It was rough. Damn. Has anyone else written Defiance? No. i Or seen like a POV, a Defiance, where it has weird like way out here. a about define yeah That's what Vinfall has, and you hit your head on it because I rode it in the opening year 2024, and it did that.
01:31:15
Speaker
If it was a best paint job top five, Vinfall's number one in every country. Because it's that pretty, but Vinfall, I'm sorry, is not a fun ride.
01:31:27
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It looks beautiful, though.
01:31:30
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um Looks kind of puny. I'm still fighting for Falcon because it has PTCs, and so you get some stupid airtime, and it's actually pretty smooth. Okay, what i mean it's okay what are the locks?
01:31:43
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Piraten. The locks are Phonics and Piraten for sure. ye And Ruchbanen could be a lock. we rush stepvana Wait, at Tivoli Gardens. Yes. Because Bakken has a Ruchbanen.
01:31:56
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but i heard Oh yeah, yeah that's civilvoly god it's not the one. I can't say it's not as good as Tivoli Gardens, but it's not as good being not a breakman anymore.
01:32:06
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um I wasn't an enthusiast when I wrote Rushabon. It was my 25th credit. Fun fun fact. um But it was amazing. I kind of feel like Javelin should be a lock.
01:32:18
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oh But then I haven't ridden it. I could put it at five. Yeah, I could but i could put Juvalin. I could put it at five. Lynette, did that make it? It's definitely the number two at Jurors Summerland. I am voting Mind Train, Olven over Lynette.
01:32:38
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I don't think... If we put Juvalin, then it's it's over. that's That's five. Phonix, Rishbonnen, Puritan, Falcon, and Juvalin.
01:32:51
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so i got I got a poll result from ah Taylor, by the way. There's five people with them. Three Japan, two Germany. Nice. i think japan that's That pushes it for Japan, right? Or we have results from you. We had two people say Japan, one say Germany.
01:33:08
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so There you go. Japan one, Germany two. Germany can still win the cup. They can still win the cup. yeah They can, and they will. They're just go therere going to be B2, and Japan's B1.
01:33:19
Speaker
We have like half an hour to finish this out, by the way. Okay. Did we put Lynette in there? I forgot. Yeah. um No. Okay. Phonix, Roosh, Bonnet, Tivoli, Puritan, Falcon, Juvalin.
01:33:32
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I don't know enough about any of them, really. I feel like you just said six words. I would say that. Puritan, Juvalin, Phonix, Roosh, Bonnet, Falcon? Yeah. Okay.
01:33:45
Speaker
I also said actively because I wrote down actively because there's two response.
01:33:52
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. um yeah i'm I'm cool with that. What do we got for France? france king The last spot, in my opinion, that made it over Italy. but so um Looking at my list for France. I'm okay with that.
01:34:08
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Yeah, given the fact that we've got UAE and Spain after. arm Okay, France. I have two Tattis, obviously. i have Osiris.
01:34:20
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Alpina Blitz. Then I have Mahooka. o And at the same park, Mystic.
01:34:32
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That is my exact list in the exact order I wrote it. Tenere du Zeus. Tenere du Zeus. Over Mystic. Otherwise, i yeah, that's the five. <unk> I'm okay with that.
01:34:44
Speaker
Tenere du Zeus rips. I've heard Yukon Quad is fun. I did think about Yukon Quad. Monster is is Raptor. um yeah Oh, man, I forgot about Monster.
01:34:55
Speaker
Yeah, but it's not. I don't think it holds up. but yeah i would i think I think I would take Osiris over it. um I mean, Yukon Quad is Juvelin. and Disneyland Paris, Big Thunder Mountain is really good. just saying I did. i ah As much as I loved that Big Thunder Mountain, I thing just ah i think I would have a pick in Mystic over it.
01:35:22
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I gotta put i think top five is... I think that speaks for... I could go either way between Zeus and Mystic. i'm I'm good with Zeus. I hear a lot of good things about Zeus. Zeus is incredible. yeahp one it's but I heard it's rough. not running rough but i also it's rough it is for is It's not rough in an en uncomfortable and an uncomfortable way.
01:35:44
Speaker
it's just crazy It's wild. is It's a bit unhinged. yeah in the back well They don't do the Backward Sea anymore, which is a crying shame. It's my second favorite ride and in that park.
01:35:58
Speaker
Behind Tutatis. It might be third or fourth to me. Alright, did we have a five? Yeah, so yeah I think so. yeah i hope that so out who ze yeah know I maybe should have put South Korea over UAE, but whatever. It's not official. Yeah.
01:36:16
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our podcast. We can do what we want. Who's reading UAE?
UAE and Spain's Top Coasters
01:36:20
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Yeah, South Korea probably should have made this tournament. I'm just being honest, but but my bad. um
01:36:26
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UAE, yes. I think this one's pretty easy. Maybe. oops Probably. wants to read it? I can i can read it. yeah um Flying Aces.
01:36:42
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Formula Rosa. SB and Albert were counting it. Yeah, I'm counting it. Mission Ferrari, ah Manta, and then I threw in a Holo Madrid. Which that actually might be Espino forever. but Storm Coaster?
01:36:57
Speaker
That's a show. That giant show. I didn't think of that. I'd put that over Mission Ferrari. I would too, for sure. Mission Ferrari's more like, I purposely have not seen a POV just in case I ride it. and But it's more of a dark like half dark ride, half coaster ride.
01:37:12
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I saw a POV. No, it's like all the way up the tower. I think the dark ride part is like... I haven't seen a POV either for the same reasons. We got Velociraptor.
01:37:27
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What's the blue frog one? I did have Velociraptor.
01:37:34
Speaker
Where is it? Oh, IMG. I don't know the Madrid one. How do you spell that? Real Madrid. Is that the one that- is Is that the one where all of the- Yeah, H-A-L-A Madrid.
01:37:48
Speaker
Hala Madrid, okay. um oh is is that the one Is that the one where all the valleys look way too high up off the ground? Yes. Yeah, ah I remember looking at all of that and just being like, it just looks weird.
01:38:03
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right so I could put Hala Madrid on there. Also, Hall of Madrid, team of soccer. It is. That's a good point. do we want Literally, do we want to bring Real Madrid into the world? I had Velociraptor, which is basically just blue fire, but we need a five.
01:38:25
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ah that's good Obviously, we have fine go Flying... What are our locks right now? Flying Aces, Formula Rosa, and Manta, for sure, Yeah. Yeah.
01:38:36
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i so I would say Stormcoaster, but... Yeah, same. We got Madagascar, Mad Pursuit, and Motion Gaze. I wouldn't be mad at ah the Hall of Madrid.
01:38:48
Speaker
Just for the sake of it being soccer? No, it actually looks pretty good. But yes, also soccer. I'd put Hall of Madrid for forre including Espino. So while we have Formula Rossa. Yeah, I know. Most those lists have to be, you know. um So what would the fifth one be?
01:39:05
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Velociraptor is a blue fire clone. I don't know what else you guys heard. think I've heard really good things about Madagascar. Okay. I would legitimately don't know what Madagascar is. It's an indoor Gerstlauer infinity coaster with, I don't know, 51 miles per hour. It doesn't have any inversions.
01:39:24
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um Again, haven't watched POV because I don't want to be spoiled, but... It actually looks like, oh, actually, hold on. That looks like it could be really good. Yeah. It's an infinity? Yeah.
01:39:34
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Motion gate, like, I'm sure the theme is yeah insane. god No, that's it. growing yeah I don't do it every time usually, but that was too good. I'm saying Madagascar for my five. Yeah, yeah, Madagascar is fine with me.
01:39:50
Speaker
Cool. So, I mean, are we doing hala Madrid over Mission Ferrari? Yeah. Okay. Okay.
01:39:58
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finally okay so Okay, so we don't have Stormcoaster? We do have Stormcoaster. No, we we oh don't. We do? What? no Oh, I thought you had it in there. We can put Stormcoaster and get rid of... oh Okay. hala madri yeah No, actually, so we've got Flying Aces, Formula Rosa, Manta, Hollow Madrid, and Madagascar. That's fine with me, actually.
01:40:19
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Okay. Okay. I brought up Stormcoaster, but I think either one, that or Madagascar be fine.
01:40:31
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Last country that I originally had in Group B that I switched to Australia in Spain.
01:40:39
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We get some Spain, which honestly...
01:40:44
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this is a top five.
01:40:47
Speaker
My top five is probably wrong. Is it Spain or... Yeah, I think you're the last one for this one. Yeah. For this group. What, me? Okay. Yeah, Spain. all right Surprise. I'll do Batman Gotham Sea Escape.
01:41:05
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you know Shambhala.
01:41:10
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Red Force. Uh-huh. And then I had this. I think it gets interesting in here. I'm at Superman at Parkwater Madrid. I also had Superman. yeah And then Furious Bako.
01:41:27
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yeah I would have fear. I've never been Spain, but I would have had fear. Okay, i thought you guys I thought you would disagree. just say I'll just say I wrote down Uncharted just because I love Uncharted, but I know that should not be in the top five.
01:41:40
Speaker
i just i love the games. The movie was actually pretty good, and so I can't wait to write that one. But it's not top five. It's not. house rushing I really wanted to put Dragon Khan in there, but i i i've read i've read it I've heard it right horribly after the retract.
01:42:01
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yeah yeah Have any of us been to Spain? No. I grew up going to Spain like every year as a kid.
01:42:14
Speaker
I wanted to put Stampeder in here. But it's been it's been horrible ever since they changed the trains. How is Stuntfall? Yeah, how's Stuntfall?
01:42:25
Speaker
I love a giant bird boomerang. don't, so that's why. are my experience, i also don shock I never wrote Aftershock. I'll be writing Aftershock finally, but I still haven't yet.
01:42:39
Speaker
So Stuntfall wasn't open when I went to Park 1 of Madrid. I also haven't been to Park One Madrid since before they opened um Gotham City Escape. So I don't have that one. um But I mean, like i mean just take take one look at the thing, the consensus. no um I did want to put Stuntfall on there because um i mean i mean, the giant inverted boomerangs just look ridiculous way in themselves. Yeah, they were. um I went back and forth between Stuntfall and Superman and I just landed on Superman.
01:43:14
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What was the fifth one?
01:43:17
Speaker
Superman. Well, no, no, no, the fifth one. ah so I didn't read him in order. um Furious Bako. Yeah, I would put Furious Bako on there. yeah That's a legendary.
01:43:27
Speaker
People love it. I think it looks awesome. I would too. I just don't remember how to spell it. Not like Furious. It's F-U-R-I-U-S. Furious without the O. It's two U's.
01:43:40
Speaker
yeah and So we're going Furious and Superman? Yeah. four five yeah It changed it on you, Allison, it doesn't matter. I fixed it. It really doesn't matter. got up i think Legitimately, I don't know who wins this group. um I think Denmark is in fourth place. This is kind of wide open. king I think Spain i don't know.
01:44:05
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I was saying Denmark is fourth. Oh, fourth. That's what I saying. France is fourth. um Nah. No, I would probably. Not with two ties in Osiris.
01:44:16
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Fair. In Zeus, honestly. Does Spain win it?
01:44:21
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think Spain. I would go probably Spain-France. I would too. I'd go Spain-UAE.
01:44:29
Speaker
you if Hold on. Skyrush makes the top five for the U.S. I've heard Flying Aces is better than Skyrush. Yes. yeah Flying Aces looks powerful, to be fair. To be fair. Let's say the number five for the U.S. is the number one for the UAE. Okay. 40% of UAE is technically SBNO right now. That's good. point. That's a very good point. We got Real Madrid with us. Against Spain, ironically. We got Real Madrid versus Barcelona. I'll say this. We're talking about the strength of flying aces. We're talking about the strength of Formula Rosa.
01:45:05
Speaker
I've heard people rave about Manta. Same. Like, people champion that thing. A little bit more than I can see, personally. But they've ridden it. I haven't. So...
01:45:18
Speaker
Are we agreeing Spain wins this group? I think Spain wins. They have the best coaster. Yeah. Probably. They have the best top three. i okay is is Yeah. I honestly, having ridden three of the five France ones, know I don't get any the UAE.
01:45:43
Speaker
I think France is too strong. see See, now... I like two tasks, but it's Pantheon. I don't know. France has two absolute locks, where UAE might have three. UAE.
01:46:02
Speaker
What'd you say? I think UAE has one lock overall. Flying Aces. Of being open? Of being open, yeah. No, Manta's reliable, Yeah.
01:46:17
Speaker
Madagascar is probably... UAE is my vote over for France. okay I vote France. I also think France should take it. We can also throw another ah group vote in.
01:46:31
Speaker
I'm not asking Taylor. I know who's going to say UAE without a question. yeah I think more more enthusiasts are probably going to say UAE over France. i'm good i'm I think I'm good with going with the majority.
01:46:43
Speaker
So France. Okay. Okay. Hot take. Upset. We like upsets. Underdog story. I don't like France, but I like this. We got 19 minutes to this knockout round. Yeah, something like that. So I did A1 versus B2. A1, the winner was China.
01:47:02
Speaker
And after much debate, B2 was Germany. So we get China versus Germany. Oh, God. Oh, oh God. And we want to be done with this in less than 20 minutes? yeah
01:47:18
Speaker
I mean... That's the that's that's that's the final right there. That's rude. I know. That's how the wheel spun. I did this with the wheel. jesus Okay, what with it what were the five for finer for China again?
01:47:34
Speaker
Dinaconda, Starry Skyripper, Soaring with Dragon, Coaching the Clouds, and... um um um Wait, not Starry Skyripper. No, we did Python instead of Starry. Starry didn't make it?
01:47:47
Speaker
No. no we have it on it's on the It's on the show notes. Because I wrote Starry Skyripper, and then when we said Python, I put Python at the top of my list. I thought we took it on Coast of the Clouds. Oh, God. Okay. I would have... We're not doing this again.
01:48:05
Speaker
i dont what I think you guys are Coast of the Clouds. No, same. Same. So do I think Coast of the Clouds is the best one on the China list. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. right yes and To be fair, we could put these the rest of these votes up to Instagram.
01:48:23
Speaker
That's boring. Yeah, we got that. I got another one. I tried. I... I'm still Team Germany. but I'm Team Germany. Because you're biased because you've been on them. ah and I also just love Germany. and You also took the best. I think Beyond the Cloud could be world beater.
01:48:46
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I think... beyond the cloud could be a world beater i think
01:48:53
Speaker
Soaring with Dragon, I don't know. i think that about it It looks great. It is also short. um Yeah. Dinaconda... don't know.
01:49:05
Speaker
I've heard some people say Dinaconda is better than Ejinaika. Oh, I think that's consensus by people have written both. Yeah. I... I don't know what to say. Python and Bamboo... We included Python, right?
01:49:21
Speaker
yeah Yeah, Python and Bamboo Forest looks like it could be the best GCI i on planet Earth. I'm going China. I hate to say it, but... Yeah, I think I have to go China.
01:49:33
Speaker
As much as I... Voltron's the best coaster, probably, but... Yeah. I think China's like top four there beat everything else in Germany.
01:49:46
Speaker
I could be okay with either one. I think I have to go to China. Yeah, honestly, to be fair, i my my pick to me personally is Germany, but looking at it objectively and not subjectively, i actually think there's no chance Germany beats China. It's kind of wild. I actually think there's no chance. I mean, the only way to to so decipher it, I would think, is to go beyond the five that we picked, which is outside of like the...
01:50:16
Speaker
like the point of the game i think china honestly in which case unfortunately it's an upset and i'm i'm i'm mad watching the this soccer match right now but china wins yeah this definitely should at least been a semi-final but it is what it is yeah they have to play in front of them next one was b1 versus c2 that's japan versus poland oh my gosh oh i don't i don't Oh, I don't like it. Strong top threes. Dang, dude. um I don't like it. I think I have to go Japan.
01:50:52
Speaker
It's Japan because they're 4-5 better than Poland's 4-5. Absolutely, they are. as as a I can say that. I think Poland's top three would beat Japan's top three handily. I wouldn't even say top three for Poland. I'd say top two.
01:51:11
Speaker
No, Lekka is top, no. Lekka is competitive. Lekka is competitive, but... With with what? With Flying Dinosaur? Haku-ge and Flying Dinosaur. Japan's top three, yeah. Nah.
01:51:27
Speaker
I'm sorry, yeah just I love Lekka's story. It's awesome, right? But against Igenaika, Haku-ge, against Flying Dinosaur... For the record...
01:51:39
Speaker
I still think Japan wins, but I still think LEC is maybe better than two of those. That's... Maybe. I don't know. I haven't ridden a... i I'm not a big RMC fan. Let me say that. And I also haven't ridden a 4D. Fair.
Final Debates: USA's Superiority
01:51:55
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Fair.
01:51:55
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I think Flying Dinosaur looks incredible, but I don't know. Dude, Flying Dinosaur looks unbelievable. Japan, yeah. Japan's got to win that, unfortunately. All right. C1 versus D2. We got USA versus France.
01:52:12
Speaker
USA. We're just moving on right here. USA. USA. USA. That's not even close. It's not debate. Yeah.
01:52:23
Speaker
it's not one that no One that didn't even make the US top five is Pantheon, and that's basically two Tatees. Two Tatees is better, but not ah not enough. That was the 14 seed that snuck into the second round. and had the Mate, mate one that didn't make top one that didn't make top five for the US is Iron Rattler.
01:52:42
Speaker
Anyway. yeah um No, we're not right. Iron Rattler? No. Oh, you guys aren't fans? Oh, okay. It's not the best arm scene at Perk.
01:52:53
Speaker
Oh, yeah, it is. i Let me clarify. I love Iron Rattler. I love Iron Rattler, but it's there's so many I would still put ahead of Iron Rattler. Not Steel Vengeance. Iron Rattler might not be in my top 25 US, s let alone.
01:53:08
Speaker
Oh, I have Iron Rattler at 21 overall. I have Iron Rattler above Steel Vengeance. And a yawn fest between them. ah And the most comfy trains that you'll ever ride on a non-season. love Stoozie's champion Iron Rattler.
01:53:20
Speaker
And also New Texas Giant, but... has those trains. oh The last quarterfinal is actually pretty good. Spain versus Belgium. o Another good top three. This just happened the other day.
01:53:33
Speaker
And Spain won. My answer is Belgium. ah hi belgium Belgium's too top heavy to not win. Yeah. Yeah. yeah after after After Gotham. We have an upset.
01:53:50
Speaker
We have a ranking upset. The two beat the one.
01:53:55
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That's true. Cinderella Story! group Group D I think was the the weakest. Yeah. Okay, so our winners are China, Japan, USA, and Little Belgium. yeah So we got China versus Japan.
01:54:14
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oh boy.
01:54:20
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Holy crap. Find out on the next episode. Hold on, let's bring this down. We've already said DinoCon is probably better other than Nijinaika, right?
01:54:34
Speaker
I don't know if I can get behind that. I would probably rather do China over Japan. Japan more as a country, but This is why we need Starry Skyripper, because we need Starry Skyripper versus Flying Dino, which I think would be Flying Dino. Flying Dino wins, yeah.
01:54:49
Speaker
Starry Sky Ripper wasn't good enough to make it, though. Yes, it was. I mean, it it was, but it didn't beat the five we have.
01:54:59
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um
01:55:03
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Just remember, whoever wins this one is going up against the USA. Hey, hey, hey, hold on. belgium Hold on, hold on. I have a suspicion.
01:55:16
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USA vs. Bartram! I think after some critical thinking that China probably takes it. Yeah.
01:55:29
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Yeah, japan japan japan might yeah and my on and Japan might drop at the little further than China drops. yeah does it yeah yeah Well, if we're saying Fujiyama versus Coaster Through the Clouds.
01:55:47
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I think China also has a slightly more interchangeable five than Japan. I know that's dropping out of the top five. Coast to the Clouds doesn't have Mount Fuji. in the mountain ah Once again, i i personally don't think Coast to the Clouds the fives. but I don't either. um I don't. why Why is it there? No, no, no, no, no. I think it's like the four or three or two or one.
01:56:11
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It's not the five. i I'm saying Japan.
01:56:16
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You're saying Japan. I'm saying Japan. I don't know. I think we're also slightly overrating Beyond the Cloud. maybe Might be. Might be. Might be. yeah just to just But i I've also written some powerhouse mocks.
01:56:32
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I know Taylor and Sarah were having the debate of Beyond the Cloud and Hyperia. Oh my gosh. I think they both said Beyond the Cloud, but that was the either or.
01:56:46
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um ah donnna Oh my god, I can't. Maybe top three in the world. Um... Then I say Japan. My vote is China.
01:56:58
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I'm voting China. Oh, God, I don't know. um
01:57:08
Speaker
the it's so even i umm I'm going with the majority China China I didn't want Japan to lose they are so evenly matched but in these five at least in these five they are ah extremely evenly matched as a country obviously China has taken it but again yeah only only five players per team Yeah, well well, when your country has like 5,000 roller coasters or what, it doesn't have that many. Like 3,000 coasters versus Japan's 200, it's like that's not fair.
01:57:41
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um here's I'm going to make a statement here about USA versus Belgium because it is worth mentioning here. if thanks with be disclaimer If Belgium's number five...
01:57:57
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is not even close to the USA's top 50. It's not close. Turbine. Schwarzkopf shuttle loop.
01:58:08
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I don't think Montezuma's revenge crossed any of our minds. Ever. It's not even open right now. Can we just say... not even open yet. Whenever the RMC opens, we have an actual debate.
01:58:19
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Yes. With the USA, kind of. for the For the five on paper, yes Yeah, because because then your weakest probably becomes either Mechalodon or Fury.
01:58:30
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um And that's a better fight. like That's a better fight. um But... Let's just put it this way, bro. Ain't no Family Coast is making USA's five. Yeah. We didn't even consider the um the counterweight or flat whatever it is one in Japan for it.
01:58:50
Speaker
I know it's not against Japan, but like we that's the only shuttle loop we thought about. Because that's the next test. To be fair, it where I'm including the theming and the cool indoor aspect of Turbo. that is That is a cool part of it. So that would beat the two that I just mentioned. But it's also a Schwarzkopf show. We're also talking about Ride to Happiness in Kondo. That's one of the best one-twos of any country. But it's also not Velascoaster. I will say, the USA for me does not have a coaster better than Belgium.
01:59:21
Speaker
Or like the number one. I mean... I ride to happiness, and I have above Velocicoaster. It's my two and three. It's my two and three, just the other way. um all right For me, Belgium's number one beats USA's number one, but then it's I don't think that close. It falls off from there.
01:59:39
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Well, not Konda. sense ah Let me look at... Konda I have above Iron, Gwazi, and Fury, but the other three for Belgium is where it fails.
01:59:52
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have a lot of things above Iron Guarzy, to be fair. who's the who Which coaster are we calling in corruption to call into the five just so Belgium can win?
02:00:03
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oh i Well, just think, if you let us put Stardust Racer on the game. Yeah, you know what? Falcon's Flight. Falcon's Flight. We're calling in Falcon's Flight for Belgium.
02:00:22
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It still doesn't win. i like It still doesn't win, I don't think. Belgium had a good run. Belgium had a fantastic run. I'm sorry, Belgium. We love you. I love the country as a whole. Yes.
02:00:36
Speaker
But now we get to do China versus USA. A rematch. Shout out to the ladies. a rematch of the 1999 Women's World Cup Final. How you know that? That's like one of most famous sporting matches in US history.
02:00:50
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Like legit. ah Sure. Go sports. China versus USA. So I'm going to start off by kind of having the same reasoning here, but at a different level.
02:01:06
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I think all five on us's list beat, um, soaring with dragon and probably Python and maybe coaster through the clouds. And maybe beyond the club.
02:01:18
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Maybe be beyond the cloud. Um, I'll admit, um, there's a part of me that thought about, but but There's a part me I thought about breaking up the US into like three different countries.
02:01:30
Speaker
ah Like Florida, Ohio, and the rest. see how it did. Ohio versus everybody. Florida plus Ohio versus everybody. You could do you could do like East, Midwest, and West, to be fair. well that would accept up but hours I think the West would lose less pretty quickly. yes
02:01:52
Speaker
Depending on where you cut the West... um I'll have you know, I thought about putting 32 countries in this tournament, so can you imagine if... It'd be four hours. Yeah, we would have had multiple parts. and um an Apologies to South Korea. You probably shouldve made it over France or, you know.
02:02:10
Speaker
Anyway. Oh, man. i I just... If we were doing the full quantity of coasters of China, obviously it also has...
02:02:22
Speaker
a lot up on the u.s but the top end here's like if we were looking at it overall the top end the u.s is still way better than the top end of china because there are a lot of good coasters in china but you get past the first don't know 50 it falls off quick yeah so quick that's i guess that's technically not what we're debating but like
02:02:49
Speaker
a Listen, ah I'll be honest. We argue what's the what's the what the top end of China apart from Dinaconda? Beyond the cloud and Python? The top end of China? Like the top three? Beyond the Cloud, Python, Soaring with Dragon, Starry Skyripper.
02:03:03
Speaker
i would so i would I would take out... If we were putting Starry Skyripper in, I would take out Soaring with Dragon, not Coaster Through the Clouds. Okay. Fair. But, but but yeah. That's pretty much it.
02:03:15
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The top three are Dinaconda, Beyond the Cloud, Python, and then that's Coaster the Clouds and Soaring Dragon, the but the other two. Except I think you all said that the R5 for the US was Skyrush, and I think Skyrush beats three of those, at least. Stardust definitely beats three of those. Stardust could beat two of them.
02:03:41
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Probably three. don't think I'm putting Python over Stardust. No, I don't think that's happening. Really random quick point. I know we were comparing Taron and the China Taron. The theming is like 100 times better with Taron.
02:03:55
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Compare those again. um but yeah It has 1,700 coasters, by the way. I got that the fact wrong earlier. I hope we did a good job like not ah selling the inevitable inevitable of the US winning this thing.
02:04:10
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the but It's just not, yeah. There's no other answer. Unfortunately. i mean, not unfortunately. Go USA! like For drama purposes, yeah.
02:04:23
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For drama purposes, yeah. The the number one seed won. Honestly, i think that's i think that I think the top end of both can be a toss-up. And then USA wins on the 4 and 5. Yeah, I would agree.
02:04:35
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yeah Um... You know, the number one seed faces probably the number two seed and then the number one seed wins. But it is what it is, right? USA! USA! USA!
02:04:49
Speaker
There it is. I think we're all just incredibly biased. We are. But I still think i overall, like total coaster count to coaster count, even with the U.S. as having like 800 fewer coasters than China, I still think the U.S. would beat it. oh yeah i mean like The U.S. is like 101 to 200 is still like pretty decently strong. 101 to we're putting in coasters that...
02:05:16
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um would beat some of these other countries' top fives. Tennessee Tornado. Sorry, Jen. I was thinking like Monster over like over like a um oh Fury. Like Monster at Adventureland over Fury at Bobby Allen.
02:05:34
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Stuff like that. right yeah Good point. so Anyway, Allison, it's 10 o'clock. We kind of did it. Yeah, it's exactly 10 o'clock right now. We are so good at this game.
02:05:47
Speaker
Congrats to the USA on winning the world cup. Yeah. yeah those So i believe that brings us to the end of the episode guys. Thanks, Jen. thanks gene um I have no idea what to do for the episode of art for this. I'll figure it out this weekend, I guess.
02:06:05
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I should just put a picture of hollow Madrid in the, uh, Honestly, yeah. Put a soccer ball in the hole. Just do a picture of the World Cup. right Yeah, with the coasters, though. We'll put coasters around it.
02:06:17
Speaker
That might be a lot of work. That's Photoshop. yeah We'll see. um I'll make something. This is a non-AI podcast. Correct. I refuse to use AI in any of my episode art. Yes, it is.
02:06:32
Speaker
All of it's done by hand by me. Love that. But anyway, um well, this was a two-hour episode. But still... We're turning this into a long time. Let's less lesss be honest with ourselves. Did did we expect any less?
02:06:47
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but I apologize for not showing up at 7. That's on me. No, you're you're good. ah guess It gave us a chance to finish our homework, and I'm glad we did. It worked out. Um...
02:06:59
Speaker
As always, got to give a shout out to our Patreon members. So thank you to Chris, Jeff, and Alexander for all of your support. I have sticker packs going in the mail. Like literally they're next to my desk with stamps. I just got to go to the post office. So if you want a sticker pack, join Patreon. um Yeah. Any other final words from y'all?
02:07:19
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The US is unmatched in Coastery. Starry Skyripper did super dirty and i'm not happy about it. Stardust, to be fair. The Coaster's with Star in the title. just because smell least At least Steel Vengeance didn't make it.
02:07:34
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That's what I was fighting for. would have taken Stardust all day. yeah i want I want to know who was screaming at their phone because Steel Vengeance wasn't in the fight. Many people, I'm sure.
02:07:45
Speaker
You're welcome. I'll try not to. And since Jen's not here, you're welcome for that. Although she' have been fighting against Voyage too. Yeah, we would not have had that. No. I'll try not to wait another two months before my next appearance. Appreciate that. We miss you. Oh, I miss you guys. Indeed.
02:08:01
Speaker
All right. Well, hashtag keep thinking inverted.
02:08:06
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and what What is with all these hand gestures with my stupid hashtag? Yeah, what up Hashtag. Hashtag. Hashtag keep thinking inverted. Kind of wish that we were filming any of this, but um keep thinking inverted and we'll see y'all next time.
02:08:24
Speaker
Bye.