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Jessica Grace and Edris: Netflix's Most Toxic Couple of 2026
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Jessica Grace spent her The Ultimatum season 4 appearances showing viewers everything they should avoid in a relationship - a controlling partner who refuses to forgive and aims to humiliate and "punish."
I rewatched all of Edris' scenes to discuss why I believe Jessica is lying when she told Nick Viall that Edris is a great guy and she was exaggerating her abuse claims at the reunion. Viewers can see that Edris comes across as a textbook abuser, IMO.
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Transcript
00:00:00
Speaker
All right, y'all.
Domestic Violence Theme in Reunion
00:00:01
Speaker
I have been covering celebrity news for a very long time, and I have never seen a reality TV show reunion like the Ultimatum Season 8 reunion because domestic violence and abuse was the common thread throughout the entire reunion, with the exception of a few couples.
00:00:26
Speaker
Okay, so this episode is about JG, Jessica Grace, and Idris. Because Idris, Idris, how do I say his name? Idris. It's Idris.
00:00:41
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I just, I can't stand him. And it's the spelling is with an E. Anyways, Idris is a textbook abuser. And that is why I am in my opinion, allegedly, in my opinion.
00:00:53
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And that is why i am talking about Jessica and Idris because I want everyone to watch reality TV, not just for entertainment, but for educational purposes.
00:01:09
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We need to recognize abuse so that we can avoid it. And watching it unfold in front of our eyes sometimes is very useful if we're able to say, say okay, I saw that on TV. I'm seeing this in my real life.
00:01:26
Speaker
Hard no. Full stop. Okay. So what I did to prepare for this episode is I rewatched the scenes of JG and Idris.
00:01:38
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in the ultimatum because this man, according to Jessica, had her participating in humiliation rituals and she had to be obedient to him and he punished her. So I wanted to see if I saw certain signs of that in the episodes that Idris was on before him and Jessica left the show prematurely.
00:02:06
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After the first three
Jessica's Dilemma: Motherhood vs. Abuse
00:02:08
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episodes. so before I get to that, I want to say that JG tells Luke in the show that you can hear her biological clock ticking.
00:02:18
Speaker
I think that Jessica wanting to be a mother is a big part of the reason why she's clinging on to this abusive man. And when I say abusive, I will, I'm going to say he's verbally abusive because That's what I mean when I say abusive, because I'm not trying to be slanderous here.
00:02:39
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Do I believe that he's abusive in other ways? Absolutely. But I'm going to say he is a verbal abuser because we watched they watched that. There's actual footage of that that aired on Netflix.
00:02:51
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Okay. So Jessica wanting to have children is making her hold on to Idris.
Public Criticism of Jessica's Choices
00:03:01
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And that's not a good reason to hold on to a man.
00:03:06
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Furthermore, if you are with a man who is making you participate in humiliation and humiliation rituals and punishing you and forcing you to be obedient to him, why the fuck would you want to reproduce with that person?
00:03:26
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So Jessica is honestly, easily, right now, I'm going to put her in the number one top spot, top slot of reality TV stars that, who are disappointing.
00:03:41
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And this one well-known TikToker, Storytime with Ricky, she really went in and insulted Jessica, her appearance,
00:03:52
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at the end of her video. And I know it was because Ricky was frustrated, right? We don't want to see this. We don't want to see a attractive, intelligent, successful woman accepting abuse.
00:04:11
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It's not entertaining to us. It's not, um it's very triggering and sad and depressing. Because I feel like there are several Jessicas out there and I want to be in the dark about it. I don't want to know how many women are voluntarily clinging to a man and being abused because they're worried about their biological clock.
00:04:37
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Jessica was 35 when the show filmed. I assume she's 36. She has plenty of time and options. And I do not believe that she is going to marry Idris. And I do not believe that they are going to have kids.
00:04:53
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And she's smart, but she's also incredibly stupid, incredibly pathetic. I'm sorry I met her because I'm always going to wonder about her and her well-being because she is in an abusive relationship.
00:05:09
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Allegedly. So Idris...
Idris's Controlling Behavior
00:05:13
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On the ultimatum, so on the show, like I said, JG said that her biological clock is ticking. Idris said that JG has never cheated on him, but he doesn't like how she flirts with men.
00:05:26
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So remember about the humiliation, punishment, obedient. Idris holds it over JG's head that she quote unquote flirts with men.
00:05:37
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She's just an attractive, likable person. I don't think she's flirting with anyone. Idris just wants to control her and punish her by claiming that she flirted with men and he doesn't like that.
00:05:51
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um Because JG is, she's also articulate and funny and fit. There's a lot of men who would be interested in her and she's successful. She's doing well with her real estate. So Idris comes across as stoned, but he has been sober for, I guess, 16 years. Idris is 38 years okay Possibly 39 by now, to be honest.
00:06:13
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um Anyways, so when Idris is talking to women on the ultimatum, he says to, he says this to Haley, quote, do you burn easily?
00:06:30
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meant from the sun. Is your mom Hispanic, Hispanic? She probably makes good food. You smell good. What are you wearing?
00:06:41
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Do you have any birthmarks? I just wanted to stare at you. Are you trying to get me drunk? Okay. So Idris, Idris, I should have typed with an I because I keep saying Idris asks Haley, do you burn easily?
00:06:59
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In light of what I know is burning one of his humiliation rituals. Is it part of the rituals burning something on JG's skin?
00:07:11
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Because what does, do you, ah do you burn easily have to do with anything? Right? um Then he says, do you have any birthmarks? I wanted to, I just wanted to stare at you again. Are birthmarks a part of the rituals or does he want to mark you? Does he want to brand you?
00:07:26
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Because we know that army hammer was branding women. Right? So like, what what are we talking about here? Because I do, I'm sorry, I do believe that someone who is into punishment and obedience and humiliation rituals wants to know if you burn easily and wants to know if you have any birthmarks because I do think that might be a part of his rituals.
00:07:49
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Okay? And so I looked up, it's on another tab here. Let me
Abuse Dynamics: Humiliation vs. BDSM
00:07:56
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see. I looked up humiliation.
00:08:01
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Okay, I looked up sexual humiliation rituals. And so it tends to be the core concepts and forms of that are using insults, name-calling,
00:08:16
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or explicit teasing to strip away pride or target specific insecurities, physical subjugation, requiring a submissive partner to perform degrading tasks such as crawling, body worship, or acting as human furniture, service and objectification, enforcing domestic servitude or treating a partner like an object to emphasize a power balance.
00:08:43
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ah Let's see. Okay, alright. So obviously people think that this is including piss and peeing on Jessica, shitting on Jessica.
00:09:00
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Who knows? Who knows? Right. But I just wanted to give the definition of this because a lot of people online are very confused and saying it's BDSM. Jessica did not want to do any of these things. That was very clear in her delivery. Allegedly.
00:09:17
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So it's not BDSM. She's not a consenting, willing participant. She's just trying to keep a worthless man because she is one of the dumbest people I've ever seen in my life on reality television.
00:09:31
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So Idris tells Alex, ah this is again, we're still talking about what happened during the three episodes. First three episodes of season eight of the ultimatum where JG and Idris were on. So Idris tells Alex he dumped JG on New Year's Day and JG told him, you're not breaking up with me.
Jessica's Low Self-Esteem
00:09:52
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Full stop. Idris or sorry, JG has no self-esteem and she is psychotic in my opinion. If a man is breaking up with you, you cannot tell him you're not breaking up with me.
00:10:06
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And when you do tell him you're not breaking up with me and you force a reconciliation, that man knows how desperate you are, how pathetic and thirsty you you are. And he doesn't respect you because you don't respect yourself.
00:10:21
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Next, Idris said, Alex is cute. She's a full figured woman. Okay. Remember, Alex is 23 years old and Idris is 38 years old. This is another reason why i know Idris is not marrying JG.
00:10:39
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JG is like, I'll say 35. I think she's 36 because she was 35 on the show, right? A man who is seeking out a woman who is 23, I don't see that same man marrying a woman who is 36.
00:10:55
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um So Idris, on a one-on-one, or in a one-on-one conversation, Idris tells JG that they're trying to get to a clean slate.
00:11:05
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He goes, quote, where I won't hold anything against you. Remember, it seems that Idris permanently wants to punish JG for supposedly flirting with other men.
00:11:19
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It's giving, like, the most microscopic dick energy. in recent recollection for me. Flirting is going to happen in a relationship.
00:11:29
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I do not believe that JG flirted with anyone. I think that Idris translates her speaking to somebody else as flirting and then uses that as a reason to be abusive, allegedly.
00:11:42
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So JG responds by telling Idris, quote, I want to spend the rest of my life loving you, all of you, end quote. That is so, so romantic and sweet, but Jessica is brain dead when it comes to romantic relationships and the choices that she should make.
00:12:00
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Mm-hmm. Idris does not give JG any eye contact when she speaks to him, when she pours her heart out to him. This man is allergic to her. He hates her. Idris hates JG.
00:12:15
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Point blank, period. So, in my opinion. So then we are now at the reunion.
Reunion Reconciliation for Image?
00:12:22
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in the reunion, what I saw really shook me, really angered me. i got on Reddit. I left some comments. A lot of people were so upset about the abuse that they witnessed, the verbal abuse that they witnessed at the reunion.
00:12:37
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And i on my rewatch, it wasn't as bad as it was the first time, I will say. Maybe it's because I already knew what he said and what was coming, but I wasn't as taken aback, thankfully.
00:12:49
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Anyway, so at the reunion, JG says, as soon as the cameras were off, he didn't touch me. He didn't kiss me. We didn't speak until the next day.
00:13:00
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Now, when I'm here slamming JG, that's because Jessica and Idris, they are ti back together. That's why i am slamming her.
00:13:12
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That's why a lot of people are furious right now. Because Jessica is back with JG. And I'm mentioning this because Jessica is back in a relationship with a man who said that he proposed to her because it was he felt forced to And so then he did not touch her, kiss her, or speak to her the next day. This is the man that she is with.
00:13:40
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A man who treated her like this after proposing to her. So Idris says at the reunion, I felt so fucking angry. i was going to pick Alex and proposing felt so fucking forced.
00:13:53
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This is the man that Jessica is choosing. Okay. So Jessica at the reunion is complaining. She says, I shouldn't have to be in the kitchen and hear that you have a sexual attraction to Alex.
00:14:08
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I shouldn't have to hear that from my fiance. He broke up with me the day before our anniversary. I'm still cooking you Afghan meals. We're still being intimate and traveling.
00:14:21
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Okay. But guess what, y'all? Whose fault is it? When Alex dumped JG, she said, you can't break up with me or you're not breaking up with me. When he dumped her again, she's there cooking, traveling, fucking.
00:14:37
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That's her fault. Do not be Jessica. Just because someone is accepting your attention and sex from you doesn't mean they want to be with you. Idris hates Jessica.
00:14:51
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His actions convey that he hates Jessica, in my opinion. But Jessica, as I said, have to call her brain dead when it comes to romantic relationships. Calling her as stupid as stupid is way too light.
00:15:05
Speaker
Jessica doesn't understand that. She doesn't understand that she needs to let the man go. Just because he's not running in the opposite direction does not mean that she shouldn't let him go.
00:15:18
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Jessica acts like a girlfriend when they are not together. After he breaks up with her, she needs some therapy. She needs to learn how to accept his boundary and accept the rejection.
00:15:33
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So Idris said at the reunion, I don't think hitting on Alex was inappropriate. I'm a single person. Remember, Alex is 23. Idris is 38 years old. So Idris is saying he doesn't give a shit if he was having sex with Jessica, traveling with her, having her cook Afghan meals for him. If he wants to flirt with or try to pursue Alex, he's going to because he's single.
00:15:56
Speaker
Would a man who's into you say that? Absolutely not. Jessica, she's dumb. As I said, she's an idiot. So then here comes Jessica with this bomb.
00:16:07
Speaker
She drops one of the biggest bombs in reality TV reunion history. And she says, don't put me through literal hell. Have me performing humiliation rituals. Have me being obedient to you. Fucking punishing me. He knows what it is. And it's fucking disgusting.
00:16:25
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Okay. Okay, here we go. Gloves off. Jessica just announced to the world that she was performing humiliation rituals, being obedient and being punished and that the things she was doing are fucking disgusting.
00:16:42
Speaker
She's back with him again, y'all, though. She's back with him again. So this is what I mean when I talk about this abuse. This is what I mean when I talk about her reluctance and this being non-consensual.
00:16:54
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She didn't want this type of relationship, but she was participating and doing whatever Idris wanted it to because she thinks that he's going to make a good father and he's going to marry her.
00:17:06
Speaker
So Idris tells her, we weren't working out. We were done. i broke up with you. i broke up with you and I told you to leave my house. I agree that the last time I broke up with you, guess what we did? We fucked. We did. i texted you over the phone after we had broken up, after we fucked. And I said, I regretted fucking you. It should not have happened. After I busted, I just fucking orgasmed, dude. Okay, full stop, end quote.
00:17:34
Speaker
This man is almost 40 years old and he thinks that we don't know it's how sex works. Idris is, the reunion was a humiliation ritual for Idris. Idris made sure that Jessica was immersed in a humiliation ritual by just saying, by saying what he just said. But the reality is we all know how sex works. The two people have sex and orgasm.
00:18:00
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is going to happen. So he didn't need to talk about how he busted. He just fucking orgasmed and he had post-nut clarity and he regretted having sex with her. we don't We already know how sex works and we don't care. But he specifically said this to embarrass Jessica.
00:18:19
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Remember, Jessica's back with him. This is the man that she wants. He said this to embarrass her.
Racial Dynamics in Jessica's Isolation
00:18:26
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So we got some insight into how she is treated in her relationship at the reunion. This man hates her. He doesn't respect her. He doesn't like her. He doesn't love her. He's not going to marry her.
00:18:37
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So JG then yells, watch your mouth because I'm done with you disrespecting me. Obviously, you're not JG because you're back with him again. And it was really shocking at the reunion how Vanessa is always getting so upset at the Love is Blind reunion for every little thing. And she didn't say anything.
00:18:56
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I understand people were shocked, but it's so infuriating for me to see that nobody was sticking up for for Jessica.
00:19:06
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That really bothers me. It felt very racist to me, honestly. It felt so racist to just leave the Black woman alone to defend herself.
00:19:18
Speaker
So...
Joint Statement: Misunderstanding or Deeper Issues?
00:19:19
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After the reunion aired, Jessica and Idris released a joint statement on their Instagrams. And it said that they're back together. It said, we both said some things we deeply regret.
00:19:31
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We want to apologize for our choice of words in this respect. The intent of Jessica saying she has been humiliated. She meant the rejection she has felt versus any specific practice or actions.
00:19:45
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JG said she needed to develop narrative that she could live with. So she made Idris the villain at the reunion. She couldn't paint him as a monster because he's an amazing man. She felt like, okay, sorry.
00:20:01
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ah Sorry, sorry, sorry. So the the joint statement said they want to apologize for their choice of words and the disrespect. And it said the intent of Jessica saying she has been humiliated. She meant the rejection she has felt versus any specific practice or actions. OK, that is the cliff notes of their statement. They said the reunion brought them back together and they're they're together again. So here's the thing.
00:20:24
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Idris forced, my opinion is Idris told Jessica they have to, I won't say forced, told Jessica they have to reconcile for PR purposes.
00:20:36
Speaker
Remember Idris proposed to Jessica for PR purposes, for the optics. So now they're back together for the optics because we are all as viewers supposed to believe that their relationship wasn't toxic and abusive because they're back together, but we already, we saw the footage.
00:20:56
Speaker
We saw the footage. Now, when somebody says that they were participating in humiliation rituals, they had to be obedient and they were punished. You do not mean that you were humiliated because you were rejected.
00:21:12
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Being humiliated and being punished are two different things. And humiliation and feeling humiliated for not being chosen is entirely different than a humiliation ritual.
00:21:26
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And having to be obedient also has nothing to do with being rejected. Their statement is filled with inaccuracy and lies, allegedly.
00:21:38
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We saw the footage. We saw what she said. Okay?
Jessica's Defense on Vile Files
00:21:44
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Next, they went on the Vile Files podcast and JG said that she needed to develop a narrative that she could be, that she could live with to accept that she was not with Idris anymore. So she made him the villain at the reunion. She couldn't paint him as a monster because he's an amazing man. She feels like she was dating her hero. This is what Jessica said, the brain dead dumb bitch, right?
00:22:13
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Jessica also claims that her statements were vague on purpose. The statements about the punishment, the obedience and the humiliation rituals so that she so that the audience would take her side.
00:22:26
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They broke up and they went to couples counseling and he dumped her. And she sees now that he recognized their toxicity and that's why he dumped her. Idris has taught her that she could be a good person who does bad things.
00:22:41
Speaker
End quote. Yeah, that's me paraphrasing. So Jessica was placing all of the blame, blaming herself for all of Idris's abuse. And Idris just has to repeatedly dump the bitch. Repeatedly dump her, dump her, dump her, dump her, and she still won't go anywhere. Like, she wasn't lying when she said, you're not breaking up with me.
00:23:01
Speaker
When he said that she said that the first time. He wasn't lying. he has he keeps dumping her, and she won't go anywhere. Right? So... Idris and JG reconciled only three or four weeks ago. At this point, it's four weeks.
00:23:17
Speaker
Doesn't that timing seem seem suspect to y'all? They reconciled after the reunion was filmed and Idris said, I don't want my life to be ruined. This is really bad PR. got to get her back.
00:23:30
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JG, she's cool with it because she is brain dead when it comes to relationships. She reconciled with a man who did not touch her, speak her, or kiss to her after proposing.
00:23:41
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That's who she wants to be with and reproduce with. So Idris said he didn't want to say anything harmful at the reunion and he did the opposite. Funny how he's saying he didn't want to do what he did.
00:23:54
Speaker
If he really didn't want to say anything harmful, he wouldn't have. There's cameras in your face. There's lights in your face. He just revealed who he is, which is an an incredibly stupid, um immature man.
00:24:07
Speaker
talking about he busted after he fucked. You and everyone else, bitch. You and everyone else. You busted after you fucked. You regretted fucking her. You told her to get the fuck out. You don't want to be with her. Okay, that was not anything you should have said on TV, but you did it to punish her and to have another humiliation ritual.
00:24:26
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um So according to Idris, he saw a lot of pain and fear that he didn't know was there and that he didn't know was going to come out. Fear does not cause abuse. Okay?
00:24:36
Speaker
Fear does not cause verbal abuse with cameras right front of your face. That is not fear. That is what a courageous person does is verbally abuse someone on TV. Not what a scared person does.
00:24:50
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Um, so Idris said, ah sorry. and remember, this is all what he did on television. So Jessica on the bio files podcast, she said her friends and family don't like Idris and they don't trust him.
Distrust from Jessica's Inner Circle
00:25:03
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And Idris said, um,
00:25:06
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He said he looks like he knows that he's trying to cover up, get Jessica to cover up from, you know, his actions. Yeah, he's telling us that because that's exactly what it is.
00:25:18
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JG said that Idris has never spoken to her like that in the past until he was on that reunion stage. Okay. it's Isn't it convenient how she's only addressing what we saw?
00:25:31
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And she's backtracking, backpedaling on the punishment, the obedience and the humiliation. She's backpedaling on the abuse, the physical abuse, allegedly. And she is backpedaling on the verbal abuse that we all saw. She's saying it was the first time. Nobody ever speaks to like to someone like that the first time on television.
00:25:55
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Nobody does it He's tried to dump her repeatedly. She doesn't want to listen. He's still forever mad at her because she quote unquote flirted with other men. He's always been talking to her like that.
00:26:08
Speaker
Hello? Even if he didn't, why would you want to wife? Sorry, why would you want to marry and reproduce with a man like that so he could talk to your kids like that? So Jessica said everything that she said on the reunion was untrue.
00:26:22
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As story time with Ricky, the TikToker said, if JG was lying on that stage, Idris would not take her back. He just wouldn't take her back because those are really serious allegations that she made.
00:26:34
Speaker
So y'all could watch this reunion if
Ethics of Platforming Abusive Relationships
00:26:38
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you haven't already. If you want to get to know what had me so fired up, what had the internet fired up. But these were, this was a crop of some of the worst couples I've ever seen on any reality TV show.
00:26:52
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And like Netflix, they really need to they have a lot of explaining to do. as to why they're they're forcing or so as to why they're making programming that revolves around abuse and why they have a cast of people where multiple people are mentioning domestic violence.
00:27:14
Speaker
Netflix has a lot of explaining to do. I love the ultimatum. I was entertained per usual, but these people are despicable. They are abusive, allegedly.
00:27:26
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And we shouldn't be platforming abusive people. Haley was abusive, verbally at minimum. Idris, abusive. Killian allegedly put his hands on Ashley. Like, I don't know if If next season's Love is Blind and and The Ultimatum has similar contestants, it's going to be obvious that that's what the casting department wants.
00:27:56
Speaker
And this is not what I need to be entertained. I don't need abuse to be to be entertained and to tune into a show. I don't. So that's all I got to say about this fiasco. i will talk to you soon.
00:28:11
Speaker
i have some good stuff on the way. So you'll see. bye