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#94 Animating Perspectives w/ Bilal Ahmed
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Bilal is a visionary entrepreneur that combines technical expertise with creative innovation to revolutionize how businesses uses animation for growth. With a background in Information Technology and Electrical Engineering, Bilal has led large-scale projects, taught as a university lecturer, and spent over four years navigating the entrepreneurial journey, gaining invaluable insights along the way.
Now based in Cambridge, Ontario, Bilal is the founder of an animation studio dedicated to leveraging storytelling to elevate branding, marketing, and training solutions. Passionate about changing perspectives through animation, Bilal is on a mission: to inspire and create meaningful impact through his work.
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Meet Bilal Ahmed: Tech & Creativity
00:00:31
Find A Way Podcast
Welcome everyone. This is episode 94 animating perspectives and today our guest is Bilal Ahmed. Bilal is a visionary entrepreneur that combines technical expertise with creative innovation to revolution revolutionize how businesses use animation for growth.
00:00:48
Find A Way Podcast
With a background in information technology and electrical engineering, Bilao has led large scale projects, taught as a university lecturer, and spent over four years navigating the entrepreneurial journey, gaining invaluable insights along the way. Now, based in Cambridge, Ontario, Bilao is the founder of an animation studio dedicated to leveraging storytelling to elevate branding, marketing, as well as training solutions.
00:01:13
Find A Way Podcast
Passionate about changing perspectives through animation, Bilal is on a mission to inspire and create meaningful impact through his work. Welcome, Bilal.
00:01:24
Bilal Ahmed
Thank you so much for this warm welcome and introduction. Thank you so much.
Simplifying Communication with Animation
00:01:29
Ingrid
So before we get started with everything else, can you tell us a little bit more about your business?
00:01:34
Bilal Ahmed
ah Well, our business started to simplify the communication because there are several ah complex information that ah we ah clients cannot deliver to their ah target audience and secondly, business owners are too much engaged or attached with their own business so they seem that the other person or their target audience is also getting the message in the same way.
00:01:59
Bilal Ahmed
which is not the case because everyone has their own understanding and for new customers it's sometimes very difficult to understand a particular product or service so that's why we dive in into solving this gap to simplify the communication and to maximize the impact of business communication.
00:02:21
Find A Way Podcast
Amazing. Thank you for that. And can you share um to our listeners what inspired you to transition?
From Educator to Entrepreneur: Bilal's Journey
00:02:28
Find A Way Podcast
For instance, you had you led large scale projects and then you all were also teaching as a professor in a university. And then you suddenly became an entrepreneur to start your own animation studio. So can you talk to us and explain your journey throughout the way?
00:02:43
Bilal Ahmed
Sure, when I was the University Lecturer back home, so I was used to teach basic coding subject and information technology subjects to the students who haven't studied those subjects in their college level or in their school levels.
00:03:00
Bilal Ahmed
So for them, it was a challenge to understand the basics of computer science, coding, logic design subjects and everything. So I loved that position. And then I came across several ah educational challenges like for kids. So I started a YouTube channel for kids, a cartoon channel where we used to deliver educational content for out of school kids.
00:03:29
Bilal Ahmed
So that was for my starting point. I thought to build it as a startup. But then I realized it's not a startup. We are just going doing the content creation business. So to make that particular business a startup ah like the scalability and everything.
00:03:48
Bilal Ahmed
So we converted that into courses like instead of just videos, we developed courses for out of school kids to develop skills in them. they We will not focus to teach curriculum based subjects to them. So our focus was to just deliver them some skills that they need to navigate in their life. So that was our starting point.
00:04:13
Bilal Ahmed
But ah then I had some, you know, immigration challenges moving to Canada and some personal life challenges. So I decided to take out a vertical, vertical out of my startup and start in selling services for them that. So it's been a second year, ah like ah third year. In fact, we are particularly selling these services and I am still motivated to start ah to build that startup.
00:04:42
Bilal Ahmed
and hopefully I'll be launching that by the end of this year.
00:04:48
Ingrid
Well, that's awesome. I know that we can't wait to hear more about your, you know, ah I know you're going to share about your challenges and all that in a minute, ah but thank you for sharing um about your journey to entrepreneurship. We always hear different stories and it's always inspiring to hear how people got where they are.
00:05:06
Ingrid
um So what are some of the biggest challenges you face during your entrepreneur journey, especially with your first venture?
Overcoming Startup Challenges
00:05:15
Ingrid
And how did those and how did those experiences shape your approach to building your current businesses?
00:05:15
Bilal Ahmed
ah well
00:05:21
Bilal Ahmed
Sure, ah so first one was the, I would say, lack of proper knowledge about the startup ecosystem, how this whole ecosystem works, how ah what is scalability in a particular business and what are other important ah factors that makes a startup successful and sustainable.
00:05:43
Bilal Ahmed
so that was my first mistake that i started a startup without having a proper training or knowledge ah about the whole ecosystem and then i realized or learned on the way about all the things and by that time i was out of cash so that was my second major challenge that i was a leading startup But ah due to some problems and challenges, I was not able to make it sustainable. But still, I wanted to make it happen and I didn't want it to quit. So that that is why I came up with this services idea. That for now, let's sell our services. I do not want to end this journey here and, you know, let go all employees. I had like eight employees at that time.
00:06:40
Bilal Ahmed
and i didn't wanted to let them go so i decided to build this particular animation business so i you know they are also used to make animation for the kids so we just changed the services and i was able to you know hold them rather than just ah ah let them go from the office so yeah and I also invested a lot on the equipment because animation is a complex process so it needs some high-end equipment at good graphic cards ah processing power needs to be very high in order for a good rendering speed because in 3d animation rendering rendering is a very important factor so I didn't wanted to lose that money either so that's how I make the best out of that position and
00:07:32
Bilal Ahmed
Another major mistake or challenge that I faced was hiring new interns or freshers, because ah when I had limited budget, I didn't want to go for high-end employees. I thought I will be out of money ah soon, whereas if I hire freshers, I will be able to run it for a longer period of time.
00:07:57
Bilal Ahmed
oh it was great I was able to ah run it for longer as compared to the other part but the problem was it's not ah productive web ah productive because when um we hired freshies most of my time was occupied in training them in guiding them because for most of them they it was their first job so they didn't had any idea about project management tools how this
00:08:28
Bilal Ahmed
ah you know office management was and everything so that was another mistake that i made during this whole journey and yeah these were the two main mistakes that you know caused me hurdles and as i told you how i awesome the first one by converting it to a services business and whereas the second one is concerned so we started hiring senior developers and senior artists on project to project basis. So I didn't want to you know increase my monthly liabilities. So instead I make a database of all available artists in the region that we might be a using in coming projects. So whenever we have a relevant project, we just open our database and look for who is the most relevant artist or most relevant developer for this particular problem. So
00:09:25
Bilal Ahmed
These are two major challenges and ah the possible solutions that we caught off.
00:09:32
Ingrid
Um, I really appreciate you sharing all that, but especially when you talked about bringing a junior people because they were cheaper to hire and then you'll be able to run it for longer. You're not the first person that brings this up.
00:09:43
Ingrid
And I think it's important to say, because it's always a challenge when you're like, Oh, I can just hire like three or four people for the price of getting a senior, but especially in development or like someone's developing an app or even anything else is just, you take so much time and you as a founder, you have little time.
00:09:49
Bilal Ahmed
Yes.
00:09:58
Ingrid
You can't take more things that take so much of your time to train them.
00:09:58
Bilal Ahmed
Yes,
00:10:01
Ingrid
And then by the point that they're changed, like you waste like two or three months, right? Not waste, because it's important that they learn, but um it's also important that they learn from people that have the time to teach them.
00:10:05
Bilal Ahmed
yes definitely.
00:10:12
Ingrid
So I super understand what you're saying, where it's just like, oh, this would help. But then you end up spending months training them rather than just having someone that comes like, you know, cooked, like that, that then knows other sense of the business.
00:10:22
Ingrid
ah So I appreciate you sharing that. I think it's an important, it's important i thing for people to know.
00:10:30
Find A Way Podcast
Perfect. um I want to go deep a little bit on the power of animation per se. for I'm a very visual person, so animation comes to me very much in handy when I'm trying to conceive what is the message behind that what they're trying to to sell or expose or whatever it is they're trying to create. And I know you're passionate about changing perspectives through animation. So can you elaborate on how animation can also transform branding, marketing, as well as training for businesses?
Animation's Role in Branding & Marketing
00:11:03
Bilal Ahmed
Yeah, sure. ah Basically, ah how I was inspired by the animation, I will tell you that first. So when I was a kid, I used to watch natural geographic and discovery channel, documentaries, megafetries, how do they do it, how it's made, stuff like that. So they used to, you know, ah simplify the complex information or, you know, deliver the concepts that for being the kid,
00:11:32
Bilal Ahmed
it's very easy to understand. For example, I still remember I saw a truck on the road ah like a big truck so there was a big road rotating underneath it. So I always wondered for like maybe one month or two months that this is one road rotating in a vertical direction how the wheels turn in horizontal direction and like the other way and both wheels in the same direction. So it was like very ah frustrating for me and I always think of that then my dad show me a documentary from natural geographic how they it's actually work so I still remember that day and ah then I watch watched a lot of similar documentaries so ah now coming to the client's perspective as I told you business owners are too much attached with their business
00:12:28
Bilal Ahmed
So for them, this and it's very you know it's a baby to them. So for others, it's not a baby. They just consider it a third body. So third person, so they want a better understanding and better communication. and Because most of the time or even some of the time, you business have only one chance to impress, to make the first impression and to you know make like pet ah full I would say impression so then secondly ah reusability animation offers a reusability for example I have when I came to Canada I used to work in a warehouse for like one month or so and during my one month I think 10 or 11 people joined and the supervisor trained them individually
00:13:25
Bilal Ahmed
So like I joined on Monday, day the other person joined on Wednesday and so on so forth. So there was ah one supervisor who was just supposed to train ah the all newcomers, the new hiring. And what was the train? He just used to ah show us the whole facility. Where is the production line? Where is the assembly line? Where is the packaging line? And that's it. and then how to place those you know boxes on the shipment pallets and everything. So at that time, I realized it's a practical thing. So for example, if they made animation of this whole process in one go, they can save a lot of money. They can save the hours of employee as well as supervisor that they are repeatedly investing. So and most of the people leave within one month.
00:14:19
Bilal Ahmed
So why they are investing so much in terms of human resources, a human cost to train them. ah Like 80 or 90% of that training can be converted through a video. And secondly, it also gave us some more advantages like multilingual content. So for example, I am a newcomer and English is not my first language.
00:14:46
Bilal Ahmed
So I may be sh a feel shy or reluctant to ask questions. So for example, there are a lot of as students from ah South Asia or even the whole Asia that come here and work in different job roles. So in the and they just you know feel shy and they say, yes, we got it. Everything is clear, but this is not a reality.
00:15:12
Bilal Ahmed
So, when we communicate a particular thing in their native language, they can understand it very well. Because safety and, you know, ah office procedures, these are some concerns that a business should not compromise. So, if i a business is hiring a new person and are the other person is not understanding these complete safety procedures, he will just say yes. But ultimately,
00:15:40
Bilal Ahmed
ah it's the loss of business if ah any incident happens if something happens the productivity the loss the property damage they all will be done to the business not to that employee and then most importantly ah after you receive reusability I would say a complexity of information because there are some particular ah complex products or complex procedures that a person cannot learn very quickly. So for example when we buy a new complex product it give us a PDF manual. So and our human behavior nowadays is just searching for videos. So for example if a page is stuck in my printer most probably I will YouTube it how to remove a page from HP 5100 blah blah blah.
00:16:33
Bilal Ahmed
so we can convert that particular problems and diagnosis and troubleshooting in terms of videos and it will be very easy and believe me b2c products are less ah ah can ideal candidate for this b2b products are more complex than ah like industrial products so for example i am building a machine that ah do the packaging of products.
00:17:01
Bilal Ahmed
So there will be like multiple settings, multiple are industrial components that need to be you know tuned correctly and machine maintenance and everything.
00:17:13
Bilal Ahmed
So all of these sort of complex procedures, they can be solved very efficiently through animations. I hope I made some relevant example that you guys can relate.
00:17:22
Find A Way Podcast
I love that. Yes, and you you mentioned something very important because, as we've mentioned a few times here in the podcast, I am not a manual person. And Ingrid is the one that you know she will read a manual. I would never read a manual. but So I was using my microphone wrong for at least one year out of the podcast recording because I didn't know. And we only found out because she actually bought a same microphone. And she read through the manual, and I didn't. So I was recording it wrong for a whole year.
00:17:52
Find A Way Podcast
um And videos animation is something that I really, I look forward to receiving and and watching you know for purposes of um picking up on those things. um
00:18:02
Bilal Ahmed
And one thing I like to add here, ah social media content because ah these days either people like millennials, gen z, they just want to scroll through social media content.
00:18:02
Find A Way Podcast
this right yeah
00:18:12
Find A Way Podcast
yeah
00:18:13
Bilal Ahmed
I mean the short YouTube shorts, Instagram reels, Facebook, TikTok, whatever name it. So they just used to, you know, scroll it.
00:18:19
Find A Way Podcast
yes
00:18:22
Bilal Ahmed
Everyone has there a soft corner for one platform. So ah this habit has changed is changing our psychology like how we interact with the new content if the content or you know the information is not productive enough people are not interested they will not it will not grab your attention there are a lot of brands that recently caught growth through just these sort of you know content and videos so that is another use case or you know possible horizon for the animations
00:18:57
Find A Way Podcast
Thank you for for sharing that Bilal. One of the things that we really like to explore here on the podcast, not only about your entrepreneurial experience, but also immigration experience. So you moved to Canada in 2023 and it marked a whole new chapter for you. What were the main challenges you faced as an immigrant in Canada? And I know there were plenty of them.
Challenges of Immigration and Adaptation
00:19:18
Bilal Ahmed
ah Yes, the first one was and the delayed immigration timeline. oh I was supposed to be here in 2021 or at match 2022 start, but ah in the process that took six months for me, it was 20 months because my file was, you know, submitted before the COVID lockdowns. So in the COVID lockdowns, they were not processing Outlander's application and ah I was stuck in the middle of nowhere should I, because and the time was very crucial in my life. At the age of 27, 28, I had to settle down. And I was not sure if I will get this chance of immigration to Canada as an a resident or not, or should I be staying or settle down in my home country. So the first one was timeline. And the second one was not doing the homework.
00:20:17
Bilal Ahmed
I was not prepared for like this ah environment or I didn't had any idea because I didn't had any friends or relatives in Canada. So when I moved here, ah I still remember I took a taxi from the airport and both an Airbnb. That's how I started my life in Canada. So the you know, if I had done some homework like how I can settle ah easily and what are the relevant object opportunities and it's not just about ah settlement it's about the business and entrepreneurial journey itself for example today I am aware of ah at least five to seven possible government fundings or grants and some other ah you know possible helpful things like
00:21:10
Bilal Ahmed
I came to know about community tech, about velocity, about tech place and a lot of more places. So if I had this information before coming here, I think my, ah you know, journey would be a very different, but um I'm a particular person who learns from my mistakes. So a yeah, but these are the two main factors that, you know, stretched my settlement journey.
00:21:39
Ingrid
um I appreciate you sharing that because it was actually the reason, exactly what you're saying is the reason why me and Bia created this podcast. Because it was like, if you, like I also moved here and I always say the story, I said, like if listeners continue to watch this, heard the story a million times, that I came to Canada alone to the point that my emergency contact was my Airbnb host. Exactly. Like I got to Airbnb, it was a room, I didn't even hire, like I knew I ran the entire Airbnb room in a lady's house.
00:22:07
Ingrid
um So like it's ah the reason why we created this like if they don't have the contacts if they don't have the people that can share like we do like they can hear stories from 90 people at this point that went through this and some of the tips that they learned right and I agree with you I had the same experience you're like When I moved, what, eight, nine years ago, ah there's a lot of information that wasn't available. And even for businesses, it' like, where do you start? Like, where can you go? Like, what are this accelerator programs? Or like, what are the grants? And like, I didn't even know about grants. So all of this really piles up and it helps you feel more like you belong, but it helps you settle better. So I appreciate you sharing those ah those challenges because it's exactly why we created all of this.
00:22:50
Ingrid
But I'd love to talk a little bit about communication skills. So during your time as a university lecturer, ah you accumulated the skills to simplify complex ideas and like explain them. How have those like teaching experiences contributed to your success as a business owner, you think?
00:23:07
Bilal Ahmed
All right. and and apart from the teaching experience I was also used to be a real estate dealer back home so not a particular broker or a realtor I was used to be a direct seller like investor who buys the properties and then sell it so that you know combination of teaching experience and a real estate that gave me a lot of idea about how to communicate so for example
00:23:39
Bilal Ahmed
if I'm dealing with a real estate client so if and we have we had a philosophy if the client is saying elephant was flying I will say yes I have seen last week doing that and if the client says elephant was swimming and I will say yeah last week I was in the pool and there was a big elephant right behind me so the thing is You have to give, ah you know, sometimes privilege to your client. It's necessarily not important for all business, but for the majority of businesses, client is the ultimate king. So we need to understand what he wants. And if he's saying something wrong that I know is technologically correct ah answers or the right thing, it's not my job to correct him in all perspectives.
00:24:34
Bilal Ahmed
because sometimes people get offended especially clients i don't like to you know ah teach them a lesson that they are not willing for so hate I always try to find a perfect line of balance that client I do not want to get you know the paying customer to get offended and neither I want to you know ah say something that is ah not correct for me or not meaningful for me. So in short, I believe there is ah should be a perfect line of balance between you know what client is expecting and what you should say to client. And in terms of product and services, it's always beneficial to tell the client what exactly the problem we are solving for them. So apart from that,
00:25:29
Bilal Ahmed
ah like um and in this particular chapter and what problem we are solving I will add my input whatever I can add and first I will try to understand ah what the requirement is rather than selling high I am just selling animation I will do logo animation etc I will understand his business but first his target customer first what problems he is facing is it just in branding or is it in marketing ads so for example there is a client for me who
00:26:01
Bilal Ahmed
doesn't need branding videos who doesn't know what a brand is but he was particularly interested in youtube ads videos like i wanted to run some ad campaigns and this is my product this is my message let me so ah create some you know visuals for it so in that particular chapter it's not my job to you know ah get into hey listen you will get ah your branding thing first it's every detail and all so yeah in short there should be a perfect line of balance ah between what client is expecting and what you should you know teaching
00:26:40
Find A Way Podcast
Thank you for that. um Ingrid, both Ingrid and I were really focused on goals and you know setting goals for
Future Vision: Education for All
00:26:47
Find A Way Podcast
ourselves. um So regarding your vision of the future for the future, what is your long-term vision for your company and how do you plan to continue to leverage storytelling to make a meaningful impact on the business world?
00:27:03
Bilal Ahmed
ah Well, first of all, ah and as I told you, the starting point of my journey was to make my impactful learning for out of school kids. There are a lot of ah kids throughout the world who do not have access to quality educational content. So in the longer run, or if I have to choose one vision,
00:27:29
Bilal Ahmed
I would say this is my vision that in the longer run, I want the out of school kids to learn some skills like are to ah improvise their analytical skills to enhance their critical thinking skills. This is something ah my vision is and even I'm building my kids courses around the same kind context, we say that we are improving the analytical and critical thinking in kids because problem solving is a very important if Kid is not you know polished in the childhood or in before the teenage ah They get depressed or they get a shy person and a lot of more problems So that was you know, my major motivation and it will be huh apart from that
00:28:23
Bilal Ahmed
In terms of generic business, I always want to, you know, simplify the communication in general. And in the long run, I am ah looking forward to make this ah animation studio fully sustainable. I have achieved a lot of sustainability goals. Like I set some goals in terms of sustainability, like what are my office expenses? What are my personal expenses and how many you know clients we need and everything.
00:28:53
Bilal Ahmed
So we solved most of those challenges in the ah struggle. And ah one thing that helped me was ah membership of Cambridge Chamber. I got, I live in Cambridge. So I needed something reliable or something, you know, consistent to build my business. So I decided to go with this Cambridge Chamber membership and they had 1,500 businesses in total.
00:29:22
Bilal Ahmed
So it was a good starting point like I can communicate with the businesses. ah Yesterday we had our first tabletop event in a social ah gathering conducted by the Cambridge Chamber and the response was really, really good. And ah yeah, so after building this sustainable business, I want to, you know, get back to my at tech field and build something not just for me not just for Canada but in fact to all kids that out are out of school I will make ah you know impact for them
00:30:01
Ingrid
I love that. That's a beautiful goal. um So for someone, if you're talking to aspiring entrepreneurs, people that want to get into the animation business or like start their own business or exploring a career in animation, what are two advices you would recommend, like you would give them about, you know, overcoming setbacks and staying optimistic?
AI in Animation: Tips & Insights
00:30:23
Bilal Ahmed
ah First of all, the dynamics are very, you know, prone to ah market. For example, AI is taking over every field. So at least I can consider in my five year experience and, you know, ah learning from the animation industry, animation tools, at least for couple of years.
00:30:47
Bilal Ahmed
AI will not be able to replace the animations because right now there are many tools. Even take a simple example of graphic designing. ah that is way, way simpler than the animation itself. ah AI is still not able to, you know, 100% generate the artwork that we need in graphic designer. We still need graphic designers. So, but still, it's very important to use the tools critically. So for example, for our studio, we are not using any AI for visuals, but we are using AI for
00:31:25
Bilal Ahmed
creativity and analysis like what other companies in the world have done this what will be the impact of ah this type of content what are pros and cons so in short you open keep your eyes open to the AI field that is very important because if you are just creative and not like checking out the market and new tools, you will be you know set ah you will have a lot of setbacks. Being a creative is not easy. because and like ah Have you seen paintings? Because sometimes we see a painting very dull and simple and it's worth millions of dollars.
00:32:08
Bilal Ahmed
why because it's about the artist it's about the procedure but in the animation and field it's better to go for the majority of the audience what they want to see what they want to you know engage with the content and so this is my first advice and the second advice is a lot of practice, a lot of patience because animation is not a something that you can build. For example, if you want to build an app mobile app, you can do it from ah scratch easily if you have the technical knowledge. But animation is a different thing. It's like everyone has their own say and taste of art.
00:32:51
Bilal Ahmed
So ah for me for me um my favorite Disney movie will be XYZ but for any other person it will be a different movie ah similarly so on so forth. Like art has a unique taste in everyone so you have to you know ah get a basic essence essence of it what you like and what people will like. If you correct the answer between these two you will have a very successful art animation business.
00:33:21
Find A Way Podcast
Amazing, Bilal, thank you for that. We do something in the the podcast that we usually ask the current guests to leave a question for for the next guest. So our last episode, the question that was left for you is, if not Canada, where would you be?
00:33:41
Bilal Ahmed
UAE or Australia?
00:33:44
Find A Way Podcast
Amazing.
00:33:45
Ingrid
That's awesome. And if you could give us a phrase ah explaining what is success to you to belong.
00:33:54
Bilal Ahmed
Do not feel stressed about wealth, about finances, about time. So these are my, you know, definition of successful. If I'm, I can sleep, like whenever I want,
00:34:07
Bilal Ahmed
i can eat whenever why i want and i can spend time with my family or loved ones like my wife my parents whenever i want i am the successful person yeah for me like successful is not about being you know um holding money so for me this is the definition
00:34:19
Find A Way Podcast
No.
00:34:19
Ingrid
I love that. That's my goal, not letting work, stress bleed out to everything else in my life. That's my goal this year. So I love, I love being, I love being able to have someone with me on that.
00:34:33
Find A Way Podcast
I love that. Thanks, Bilal. We're moving to some rapid fire questions. So it's two options. You choose one of them, okay? um Books or movies?
00:34:47
Bilal Ahmed
movies restaurant message in store
00:34:49
Ingrid
Game night at home or night out at a restaurant?
00:34:55
Find A Way Podcast
um phone call or text message?
00:35:00
Ingrid
Online shopping or in-store shopping?
00:35:05
Find A Way Podcast
Amazing.
00:35:05
Ingrid
Okay, awesome. Thank you. So um as we told you before, we love to ask for book recommendations. It's often our listeners love it, but also me and be our bookworm. So whatever books you want to recommend, either be business or it could be a book to change your life or a really fun fiction book, whatever it is. I would love to hear if you have any recommendations for us.
00:35:25
Bilal Ahmed
not really because I was never a book person I even didn't study my university work so I'm not sure ah because ah the thing is since my childhood I have never you know had this habit even not newspaper not books I know it's very strange But ah ah even my wife, she's ah totally a book person. She always ah buy a new book every week and she's building a library for her. But I'm not a book person. So I cannot recommend a book. But yeah, I have read some like philosophical books, some novels as well. ah Even during my IELTS preparation for Canada, I read 40 Rules of ra Love.
00:36:15
Bilal Ahmed
so along with some other bots so yeah if i have to name one i will name that what will they do to make the newcomers journey more easy and impactful
00:36:21
Find A Way Podcast
Amazing. Thank you for sharing that. Um, before we close the episode, as we mentioned, we would love for you to leave a question for the next guest. So what would you like to have us ask the next guest we're having on the podcast?
00:36:42
Find A Way Podcast
That's a good one. Well, thank you so much.
00:36:45
Bilal Ahmed
although it's more relevant to your ah smart goose academy but i'll leave it to the audience like i want like check the audience what they have in their mind type how they can make line pattern on this whole ecosystem
00:36:45
Find A Way Podcast
bilair
00:36:49
Find A Way Podcast
who
00:37:00
Find A Way Podcast
I love that. i'm I'm excited to ask that next episode. So um thank you so much for telling your story and for your time below. Is there anything you'd like to add before we close the episode?
00:37:11
Bilal Ahmed
Not really, it was really a nice experience and ah I have been in media back home for almost 7 or 8 news channels in different morning shows and guest speaking just because of my ad tech involvement and my YouTube content for out of school kids but in Canada, this is my first you know public interaction for any platform and thank you so much for giving me this ah you know challenge a chance to share my story my vision and hopefully I will always remember this the first interview or the first chance to speak out my heart
00:38:00
Find A Way Podcast
It's our pleasure, Bilal. Thank you so much for making the time. We really appreciate it. Appreciate it. And there wouldn't be a podcast if we didn't have, of course, our amazing listeners and our incredible guests. So we are really grateful for you to be here with us today. um So this was our episode 94, animating perspectives with Bilal Ahmed. We'd like to thank all of our listeners and we'd like to remind you that we will be posting one episode biweekly, always with a different guest. So make sure to subscribe on your favorite streaming platform.