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The Truth About AI Agents (No One’s Telling You) #BotBros
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In this AI marketing podcast episode, Dan Sanchez and his brother Travis dive deep into the current state of AI agents, cutting through the hype to reveal what’s real and what marketers can actually leverage today. They also explore the upcoming launch of ChatGPT-5, MidJourney's new AI video capabilities, and practical use cases of AI tools that boost daily productivity for marketers. With a grounded take on emerging tech, Dan and Travis keep you informed without the overwhelm.
My Favorite AI Tools
- Tella - https://danchez.com/tella
- High Level - https://danchez.com/highlevel
- Zencastr - https://danchez.com/podtools
- n8n - https://danchez.com/n8n
Resources Mentioned
- ChatGPT - https://openai.com/chatgpt
- MidJourney Video - https://www.midjourney.com
- Adobe Express - https://express.adobe.com/
- Video of teacher show students future selves:
Timestamps
- 00:01 - Are AI Agents Actually Real Yet?
- 02:30 - Ramit Sethi's Executive Assistant as a Model for Agents
- 05:30 - Why Cross-Application Functionality is the Missing Link
- 08:00 - Apple and Google's Agent Struggles
- 10:30 - The FOMO Around AI Agent Tools
- 13:00 - ChatGPT's Growing Memory: A Competitive Edge
- 20:30 - What's Coming with ChatGPT-5
- 23:30 - MidJourney's AI Video: Surprisingly Good
- 27:00 - High Level's Voice Agent and All-in-One Power
- 31:00 - Everyday AI Use: From Medical Advice to Reading Aid
- 35:00 - Adobe Express Replaces Photoshop for Thumbnails
- 40:00 - AIO (Artificial Intelligence Optimization) Series Teaser
- 41:00 - Viral Use Case: Teachers Showing Students Their Future Selves
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Transcript
00:00:01
Danchez
AI agents. Are they actually a thing? Are you missing out on what is expected to be like one of the greatest revolutions for AI when it comes to marketing and work and productivity in general?
00:00:12
Danchez
Or is it not quite a thing yet? We're to be getting into that. And we're also going to be getting into mid-journey. It just dropped video. And it's actually some of the best cheap video you can have access to if you need AI-generated video.
00:00:24
Danchez
And ChatGPT5, Supposedly coming this summer, what are we supposed to expect? Welcome back to Bot Bros, a segment of the AI-driven marketer, where we uncover the help from all the AI hype out there. I'm Dan Sanchez. I'm joined by my brother, Travis Sanchez.
00:00:40
Travis
Good to be back.
00:00:43
Danchez
And today we have a full spectrum of news to be going over in order to keep you, the marketers, informed about what you need to know when it comes to AI. Starting with this AI agent craze that's been going on, after meeting with a ton of you over the last couple of weeks, it's something that I'm hearing often.
00:01:01
Danchez
like There's a sense of anxiety, a sense of like desperation. like I got to figure out this automation thing. I got to figure out this AI agent thing. Are AI agents still a thing?
00:01:10
Travis
Okay.
00:01:11
Danchez
like I'm hearing like all these questions about all this anxiety about it. And so I thought I'd just start off this whole segment with a state of the industry when it comes to agents, starting with like Do we even have a proper definition around agents? Like what is an agent?
00:01:29
Danchez
Like if somebody said they had an AI agent to you, bro, what what would that put in your head? as What would your expectation be of that?
00:01:38
Travis
My hope is that they'd be able to drop a few lines of a task and that agent would be able to cross many platforms to complete that task.
00:01:52
Travis
Receive feedback, plug and play, receive feedback, try a different route, troubleshoot. It would actually be able to accomplish a task with multiple steps. You had some definitions for that.
00:02:03
Travis
You worded it a certain way when they're actually... not just completing one task, but they're they're able to. think we talked about, I think you had someone who, I forgot who, but he would say run the plan.
00:02:16
Travis
And she the assistant already knew what that meant. it meant booking a hotel with this snacks in the room.
00:02:20
Danchez
Yeah.
00:02:21
Travis
I mean, but for ah ah an agent to be able to do that, that's kind of what I'm expecting for an agent. Of course, you'd have to train the agent. You'd have to know what the plan is, all that stuff. So that's what I hear and want.
00:02:31
Danchez
yeah Yeah. That was Ramit who is the founder of a very popular website, multiple, couple books now called I will teach you to be rich.
00:02:41
Travis
Yes, i've read read ah read half of it.
00:02:41
Danchez
Great. He's a financial guru. you read half of it. and It's, it's okay.
00:02:45
Travis
you
00:02:46
Danchez
Like,
00:02:46
Travis
It's okay. Super wordy. It's like, oh my God, it just keeps on going.
00:02:49
Danchez
Yeah. Yeah. The guy's a nerd. He's a he's a finance nerd. So but he had he had this thing of like he calls his rich life. Right. And he he has these playbooks with his assistant where he's like, hey, every time I travel to a different city, I want to stay in shape. I want to stay.
00:03:05
Danchez
But I need systems in order to make it so I don't like just go eat out and feed myself whatever I want. He's like, so every time I run the playbook, she has an SOP, standard operating procedure. She just goes and executes it.
00:03:15
Travis
Yes.
00:03:16
Danchez
She books the tickets. She books the hotel. She knows what kind of ranges of hotels and what prices to look for, what it's is expected to be in the hotel before he arrives. There's a playbook. And of course...
00:03:28
Danchez
Anytime. And like, it's, it's hard to say like, is that an agent you're like, cause we can automate things and sprinkle in some AI agent goodness in there. But the difference between an automation where you have to build the whole sequence painfully and what a good administrative assistant or executive assistant, like he was talking about is that when problems arise, because problems always arise when
00:03:49
Travis
Correct, that troubleshooting bit, right?
00:03:52
Danchez
Especially when booking travel like that, right? Because then you have to book. It's like you can't build an automation to book a hotel. You probably could. But, you know, sometimes hotels, the rates change. Like Taylor Swift's coming in that weekend. Oh, your two hotels that you normally like are fully booked.
00:04:11
Danchez
Or the rates went way way up and went out of boundaries. Like there's whole bunch of different conditions you have to navigate. That's why it's a good picture of what an agent can do. like on a personal level, booking hotels and stuff like that. But there's a bunch of stuff like that, especially when it comes to work that we run every week.
00:04:26
Danchez
And that's what's really exciting. You're like, man, what if someone can run the webinar play, which webinars have like dozens of little tasks in them and things go wrong and things that you need to do.
00:04:36
Danchez
And there's some ambiguity in there. It would just be nice. So are we there yet? Have you seen anything that looks like that?
00:04:46
Travis
No, especially not for the common man. and And even by common man, for those that are listening, hardworking marketers who have been in the game a long time, who don't need to think they need to eat, even, even um even um oh, what's the coding now where you don't actually need to know CSS or vibe coding.
00:05:05
Danchez
Vibe coding.
00:05:06
Travis
Like you don't have to feel the pressure to vibe code to make an agent.
00:05:07
Danchez
Yeah.
00:05:11
Travis
You have someone else create a program. That's like, yeah, all you need to do is Make sure it's up to date on your website information. Give it a few pointers of what you like in certain situations and how you prefer things and then and then move. So it's not right it's not there yet. It's not in that layman's terms of, man, agents are so available.
00:05:33
Danchez
I've started realizing that a big part of what we're hoping for with agents is AI that can work cross application.
00:05:43
Travis
yeah Yeah, that's how you mentioned it last time.
00:05:45
Danchez
Which is the exact same thing. Apple is being slammed for promising and not delivering.
00:05:54
Travis
Suckers.
00:05:54
Danchez
Now here, hear me out. They actually defended themselves this week and they gave a really good defense. I was like, Well done. Like, it was a good defense. it's not It's not going to be enough for people not to hate them for promising something they didn't deliver.
00:06:07
Danchez
But they're like, you know, we really hyped up the AI thing, and we shipped almost all of it. There was just a few things we couldn't ship. But, like, it was 4% of all the things that we talked about for that whole hour when it came to Apple Intelligence, and we marketed Apple Intelligence, like, overall.
00:06:25
Danchez
And we delivered almost all of it. And I'm like, true.
00:06:30
Travis
Is it because that you had to compare them with ChatGBT and ChatGBT's ability was just par none?
00:06:33
Danchez
Yeah, that's the hard part is that they did not promise ChatGPT level. They promised an AI that can make Siri a little better. They promised an AI that could like you know make your text more friendly as well as ChatGPT No, which is why they brought ChatGPT directly integrated into Siri.
00:06:51
Travis
does Apple ever say things like make it a little better?
00:06:52
Danchez
like That's the reason why they did that. Of
00:06:55
Travis
No. They're like, this is the greatest advancement in the history of smartphones.
00:06:58
Danchez
course they did.
00:07:00
Travis
yeah,
00:07:01
Danchez
but there's some usefulness into it. was like, I'll give you that. There's been a few times I've gone for photos and I'm like, show me, show me of the pictures. Show me the pictures near a pool. You know, it does a good job of filtering those out.
00:07:14
Danchez
It's using AI to detect and determine what's in the photos and then to filter them out. So I'm like, there's a bunch of little helpful under the, under the hood things that are actually making things smoother. You're like, great.
00:07:22
Travis
Yeah.
00:07:22
Danchez
You can now edit people out of images smoothly. And it does the content aware fill thing.
00:07:27
Travis
It's funny. Any defending of Apple just makes me look at you and go, no.
00:07:34
Danchez
I'm saying this because the one thing they couldn't ship that was what everybody was excited for, other than just a better Siri in general.
00:07:43
Travis
Yeah, right.
00:07:44
Danchez
and That was the one big miss. The other big miss was Siri being able to work across applications. This is... oh my gosh, Siri, don't get activated now. There she is.
00:07:57
Danchez
Not aware of the context. Okay.
00:08:05
Danchez
Thank you for that comedic timing. I'm not going to say your name again, but you know who you are. It can't work cross application, but that is essentially agentic work there.
00:08:18
Danchez
That's starting to be what like we're all waiting for when it comes to agents. Because without that, if you're not working cross-application, there actually are agents out there. The whole vibe coding thing is essentially pretty agentic behavior because it can actually keep in mind not just the page of code that you need to edit, but your're a lot of your database.
00:08:37
Travis
Right.
00:08:39
Danchez
It could be like, oh, well, here's your functions, here's your styles, here's your components, all all built out within this small application, it can actually keep them all in mind to know what to change where and reason through it. I'm like, that's kind of, that's, that's an agent. That's why we're able to do vibe coding now and why we can build small applications with it or hold big applications.
00:09:02
Danchez
That's kind of agent E, deep research, kind of agent E because it's able to go through, scour the web, think about what it found, be like, did I find enough? No, I'm going to go dig deeper. I'm going to go dig here now.
00:09:15
Danchez
Did I find enough? Did I find the answer? No, I'm going to go dig deeper. I'm going go find some more stuff. That's agent thinking, but it's still not working cross application, which is where I think we're all waiting for, but it's not quite here.
00:09:31
Travis
and maybe, I don't know if it'll ever get to the place where it's this magic wand of, I need a marketing plan. I need a marketing plan to fundraise X amount of dollars at the end of the year, giving largest giving season ever.
00:09:51
Travis
Look at our last five plans that we've created. And it's going to be across social media, YouTube, blogs, articles, want to be in certain magazines or whatever, go create at least the look, the wording, everything and come back to me.
00:10:07
Travis
And then when it comes back with everything that you need to approve, which you've seen ChatGBT do this, it says, do you like this version or this version? So it can create multiple versions for you and you can just start going down that bunny trail, but you're still going to have to, and it's going to have some level, it has to have some level of intelligence to ask you, okay, do you want me to move to the next step? Now that we have the design, the copy is approved.
00:10:29
Danchez
yeah
00:10:30
Travis
you want me move to the next steps? Well, who told it what the next steps were? We're going to have, so we have to create some kind of SOP for this thing to follow. It's not just going to read our brains and know exactly what kind of marketing plan we want it to go for. You want ads? you want, ads do you want,
00:10:44
Travis
you want you know, micro influencers involved in this, like you, you, you still going to have to give it some level of detail of what to run. So it's not just going to be reading our brains, but I think in my head, I want it to read my mind and that's just not going to happen unless it does.
00:11:00
Danchez
Well, it's getting close because of all the context it has of all the previous conversations.
00:11:02
Travis
i don't know. True.
00:11:07
Travis
True. true
00:11:08
Danchez
It actually is getting pretty good at like predicting what you want.
00:11:11
Travis
Yeah, but that' ah that's a form of training, right? That's an assistant knows, oh, you like the hotels next to water.
00:11:13
Danchez
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:17
Travis
Oh, you don't like being more than 30 minutes away from the airport when I book you a hotel.
00:11:21
Danchez
Yeah.
00:11:21
Travis
It remembers all these micro details that I don't have to remind Sally Sue every time she runs the plan.
00:11:22
Danchez
you know
00:11:27
Travis
So you're right. JGBT will remember those things, which...
00:11:31
Danchez
I've actually started thinking about that and we're diverging. I will come back to agents, but I've actually started thinking about that strategically. Like, Oh, like the memory feature, the fact that it can remember past conversations, that's going to get better.
00:11:43
Travis
It's wild. Yeah.
00:11:44
Danchez
The context window is going to get bigger.
00:11:46
Travis
Yes.
00:11:47
Travis
It's a game changer. It is an absolute game changer.
00:11:47
Danchez
so I'm strategically dropping more information into it.
00:11:52
Danchez
Like oftentimes, like when I write a LinkedIn post, I have a little project and it knows like when I dictate an idea into the project, it goes and writes me three posts. It gives me a clear, concise, and and a spicy take on that idea.
00:12:07
Danchez
I almost always pick the spicy take because that's what works well on LinkedIn. But afterwards, I'm now telling it which one I picked.
00:12:14
Danchez
Because I think over time,
00:12:17
Travis
It will say, Hey, I think you'll like this one the best. Here's some other options. If you're not feeling your normal.
00:12:20
Danchez
Yeah, like it'll just be able to change everything. You're like, well, Dan's generally gravitating towards this more spicy language for his LinkedIn posts.
00:12:27
Travis
So it'll make it.
00:12:27
Danchez
So it will just start changing everything over time.
00:12:28
Travis
so make
00:12:30
Travis
It'll start making even more spicier posts to see like how far of the envelope it needs to push.
00:12:34
Danchez
Yeah, but it's giving me three options every time.
00:12:35
Travis
Yeah.
00:12:37
Danchez
But I think the fact that it's not just I'm giving it a feedback, some feedback for it to remember in the future so it can start making these micro adjustments.
00:12:45
Travis
Wow.
00:12:47
Danchez
And I think it will start doing that in the future. And I think that's where employees chat GPT accounts start to become a competitive advantage because mine's able to train and think like train on my data and think like me.
00:12:58
Travis
Right.
00:12:59
Danchez
And it'll be much more powerful than a just plain vanilla chatt gpa chat GPT account.
00:12:59
Travis
Right. right Right.
00:13:05
Danchez
So don't get locked out of your chat GPT account.
00:13:05
Travis
Wow.
00:13:07
Travis
Did that once. Oh my gosh, dude, I lost everything.
00:13:12
Danchez
Yeah, that's painful.
00:13:12
Travis
Stupid work email.
00:13:15
Danchez
Yeah.
00:13:15
Travis
if you're if you have If you have an account right now with OpenAI and you have it attached to a work email that, of course, you feel confident in your role, but if for whatever reason you leave, change it now if you can.
00:13:15
Danchez
Mike,
00:13:30
Travis
Like, get out because, man, that's what happened to me. Lost it all.
00:13:35
Danchez
Bro, that's still me.
00:13:35
Travis
Stupid.
00:13:36
Danchez
Mine's based on a work email at place I don't work anymore.
00:13:41
Danchez
I'm still holding on. I'm scared. But it's out of work it's at it's at Sweetfish, actually, because I started it years ago. And when I first started it, I was working at Sweetfish. So um'm I'm like in a real big pinch.
00:13:54
Danchez
im still good I'm still friends with James Carberry, the CEO. i'm like ah get have In a tight pinch, i can we could still make it work.
00:14:01
Travis
Yeah, right.
00:14:02
Danchez
i'm I'm just waiting, though. Part of me is like,
00:14:06
Danchez
waiting for them to be able to change the email but right now they still you still can't change the email you could i could i have a different account with the api for all any applications i build but yeah my my core chat gpt account still actually locked in with sweetfish
00:14:09
Travis
they Yeah, it's locked in. Like, you cannot change your email.
00:14:22
Danchez
I have a backup phone number set. So like if I lose it, I can reset it through my phone. You know what i'm saying? So I'm like, it's not that big of a deal, but if it ever becomes a big deal, I can deal with it. That's why I'm not in a huge urgence.
00:14:33
Danchez
That's why I haven't twi switched it. I'm waiting for them to upgrade that one little feature. But it is a problem. Use your personal email, an email that you know you'll never lose access to because that's becoming a competitive advantage with years of data and information.
00:14:40
Travis
Yes.
00:14:43
Travis
Yes. Bro, I lost so much data.
00:14:49
Danchez
Yeah.
00:14:50
Travis
A year and a half, maybe two years.
00:14:52
Danchez
You're rebuilding now.
00:14:53
Travis
Yeah, it's fine.
00:14:56
Danchez
There are a ton of YouTubers, and I see them more and more on LinkedIn, of people building these agentic tools, like these NAN automated all-in-one tools that know what you need. and when you like they They're connected to all your database and stuff.
00:15:12
Danchez
And what I'm finding over and over, this is the stuff that's giving a lot of like marketers, especially the audience of the show, ah ah FOMO. Because they're seeing people build stuff.
00:15:22
Travis
Yes. Is it real though?
00:15:24
Danchez
No, it's not real.
00:15:25
Travis
No, it's not.
00:15:27
Danchez
Or it's hyper hyper, like it's real, but it's like only for this one use case. Like it's a custom build and it's only useful for this one client this one time. Those are real. They're hard to build, but they're real.
00:15:39
Travis
Do ever.
00:15:39
Danchez
Are there general things people are building that are really useful?
00:15:41
Danchez
no because the reason why I know that is they work technically, but you never, never see a case study attached to it.
00:15:49
Danchez
There's never any evidence that it's actually delivering the goods or like that it's making them 10, 100 times more productive or that it's delivering X results.
00:15:49
Travis
I, uh,
00:15:57
Danchez
No, never. And I've watched a lot of them.
00:16:00
Travis
You know those money-making gurus on social media that are like, hey, I have made 100 different people who are making $3,000, $4,000, $6,000 a month. They are now making $20,000, $25,000, $30,000 a month.
00:16:15
Travis
Super simple. Come follow me. they They keep hyping up this whatever they're selling you know probably as a product. I've seen now these gurus, quote unquote,
00:16:28
Travis
come onto YouTube, social media, they're like, listen, it's no longer about a company that has 500 employees. It's one guy, 20 agents, billion dollar company within two years. That is the new startup. that is the new We are so moving away from the traditional startups, angel investors, v venture capitalists. Nope. It is one guy in 20 agents.
00:16:49
Travis
And I, so you hear these broad stroked, it's all hype. There's that's not real yet. It might be in the future, but they're talking like it's happening now and you're missing out. So of course people are, you're right to be paying it because you're being fed lies, but it sounds true.
00:17:04
Danchez
Yeah. It's funny because they're not they're not wrong in that that will be a thing.
00:17:06
Travis
Correct.
00:17:10
Danchez
They're not wrong.
00:17:11
Travis
Correct.
00:17:11
Danchez
like I literally just recorded an episode with our our mutual friend, Ken Freire, on like the idea of the solo billionaire. It's going to be a reality. Someone's going to break that.
00:17:23
Danchez
They're probably going to be a freak of nature person, right? It's going to be the perfect business model, the perfect time. And there's going to be 100 AI agents helping them scale the whole business. And maybe they still have a few contractors and a bookkeeper.
00:17:34
Danchez
Got it.
00:17:34
Travis
Yeah. They'll still be stressed, high cortisol levels, and they'll be dying saliva stress, but...
00:17:38
Danchez
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not going to be enviable. They'll get all the fame and glory for being the first or the being one of them.
00:17:43
Travis
Yeah.
00:17:43
Danchez
Sure. The thing that gets me excited about I'm like, well, somebody breaks a billion. You know what that means. There's going to be dozens more that break 100 million, which means there's going to be hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that break 50 million.
00:17:50
Travis
A trillion. Yeah.
00:17:54
Travis
million. Yeah. um um l
00:17:57
Danchez
And there's going to be thousands that break 10 million at a solopreneur. And then that means there's going to be like 100, hundreds of thousands that break million. Yeah.
00:18:05
Travis
Right.
00:18:05
Danchez
Because of agents, because it just, it allows you to scale things that you just couldn't, business models that you could never do solo.
00:18:09
Travis
right
00:18:12
Danchez
A lot of them now you'll be able to do solo.
00:18:14
Travis
right
00:18:15
Danchez
You know, like you couldn't do an agency solo. Now you can. So there's just a bunch of models that'll be like able to do solo and break seven, eight, nine figures.
00:18:28
Danchez
that's exciting, but it's not here yet, but it's giving everyone FOMO and agents aren't really quite a thing yet, unless they're very hyper niche and have a very specific function like code, like deep research.
00:18:38
Travis
Right.
00:18:42
Danchez
And that's about it. I can't think of any other agents that are actually really useful right now because we can't do cross application, which is what's hurting Apple because they thought they could. They can't. no but The other thing they gave in their defense is that nobody else is doing it either.
00:18:57
Danchez
They're like, we thought we could do it. We're not doing it. Guess what? We don't see anybody doing it. Google's not doing it. Google's AI agent is good as their reasoning models are now. And they're pretty good.
00:19:08
Danchez
Like we've talked about on the show, not chat GPT good, but they're not doing cross application work, but it's so funny next year.
00:19:14
Travis
right
00:19:18
Danchez
We're going to be like, dude, do you remember when our applications couldn't talk to each other?
00:19:25
Danchez
For example, do you remember that AI couldn't search the web?
00:19:25
Travis
and
00:19:30
Travis
Oh yeah.
00:19:31
Danchez
You're like, that was less than a year ago.
00:19:34
Travis
It was like, I'm sorry. i only have the information up to January, 2023. We're like,
00:19:40
Danchez
That's right.
00:19:41
Travis
that bro
00:19:41
Danchez
It used to warn you. Yeah.
00:19:44
Travis
Remember, it was like, I don't, I have everything on the internet up to 2021.
00:19:45
Danchez
yeah
00:19:48
Travis
You're like, what the heck? Yeah.
00:19:50
Danchez
Yeah. So things are changing rapidly, rapidly. So as as much as it feels like we're waiting because of all the hype, you're like, yeah, but I remember last year we had like Apple's announcement and it was like super quiet on the AI front for like two months afterwards.
00:20:05
Danchez
That will not be the summer. We will get a lot of updates. One of the updates we're expected to get this summer to move on to our, we just spent 20 minutes talking about AI agents, but it's, that's good. Cause it's a lot of people are thinking about it.
00:20:16
Danchez
So ChatGPT5 is rumored to be coming out because Sam Altman keeps saying it. He's like, it's coming this summer. It's coming this summer. They're still working on it. So it might take longer, but it's supposed to be coming out.
00:20:29
Danchez
It's going to be an all-in-one model so that you don't have to really choose between the models anymore.
00:20:35
Travis
That's great.
00:20:35
Danchez
I think this is going to be good.
00:20:35
Travis
Cause I was literally just thinking, man, I'm, I'm, I was thinking of something I use ChadGBT for and I was like, did I use the right model? I'm like, oh, I'm tired of deciding which model I need.
00:20:45
Travis
I just want one model. So you just answered my question. Thank you. Thank you.
00:20:50
Danchez
I think it'll be really helpful for a lot of people because a lot of people don't even realize that O3 is much more powerful than 4.0 because the number is smaller.
00:20:56
Travis
Right.
00:20:59
Danchez
And I'm like, if they just pick five over and over again, they're just going to get better results consistently.
00:21:03
Travis
Yep.
00:21:03
Travis
Wow.
00:21:03
Danchez
There's many times where i I know which model to use, and I'm actually a little scared because I actually kind of like being able to dictate which model gets used win.
00:21:11
Danchez
I realized I'm kind of probably in the minority as far as knowing which model to pull off when.
00:21:16
Travis
Got it.
00:21:16
Danchez
And generally, for the most part, I'm literally just changing between 03 and 40. Do I need it fast? Do I just need writing? Do I know that its internal or its training data has enough of what I know i know it has to give me the answer?
00:21:32
Danchez
Or do I know it needs to go research it and think about it deeply in order to give me an answer? It's not intuitive. It just takes a lot of time and error to like, know which one to pick. I know which one to pick, but I don't think most people know.
00:21:44
Travis
got
00:21:44
Danchez
So five is going to be a huge lift for most people because it's going to pick for you.
00:21:46
Travis
That's great
00:21:50
Danchez
Scares me, but I think it'll be good. So that's something to look forward to this summer. I think we've all been waiting for this for since when did ChatGPT come out?
00:22:00
Travis
great. 2021?
00:22:01
Danchez
2022 22 and then it it was 23 and then last year it was 24 yeah so it was 22 november 22 and they released four in march of 2023 so it's been over two years we've been waiting for five in the meantime they've updated 4.0 so much that you're like well
00:22:03
Travis
Was it?
00:22:19
Travis
Wow.
00:22:25
Danchez
If we would have showed past selves how good four is today compared to what we got when we first launched two years ago, we'd be like, oh, that's five, right?
00:22:30
Travis
wow
00:22:33
Travis
right
00:22:33
Danchez
Because it's that much better.
00:22:34
Danchez
It actually does, as much as there are reasoning models, four, oh, actually does have some reasoning built into it now. I've tested it recently. It it it actually followed logical assignments. It used to not be able to do this where you're like, hey, if it's this, do this. If it's this, do that.
00:22:50
Danchez
It used to struggle with that. Now it just does it real clean.
00:22:53
Travis
wow
00:22:55
Danchez
so But five, who knows? It's coming out. Sam Altman says it's going to be good. So something to be watching for the summer. Christmas is coming in the summer. Last news on the docket is MidJourney.
00:23:08
Danchez
The image-making AI just launched video.
00:23:13
Danchez
And it's available for even the lowest-tier account.
00:23:17
Danchez
I just tested it. There's no audio in it, which is, it feels like anybody who ships video without audio now just feels like, you're like, I want, I want audio with my video.
00:23:26
Travis
Yeah. I don't know. Have you seen, I'm sure everyone has seen ai video, but the audio is not really great.
00:23:35
Travis
And it just ruins the entire video. The voice doesn't match the face. It sounds totally ad libbed or sound effects put over that just is like, obviously not done by a professional sound engineer, which who could hire those guys except for the movie guys. So yeah.
00:23:35
Danchez
Mm-hmm.
00:23:55
Danchez
I will say mid journeys video is actually pretty good.
00:23:58
Travis
yeah there's no audio.
00:23:59
Danchez
Yeah. But the prompt adherence is really good and it's cheap. Like the mint, the like lowest tier is like eight or 10 bucks a month, which I don't know how many renders you get for that, but I just tried it this morning. I just took an image that I generated.
00:24:15
Danchez
i was like, animate this. And it gave me three because, you know, you use Sora and you're like, my gosh, i have to generate like two dozen just to give something that doesn't look like complete crap.
00:24:27
Danchez
That's Sora.
00:24:28
Travis
wow
00:24:29
Danchez
Runways better, but not a lot better. Mid-Journey video is actually pretty good. It actually sticks to the prompt. It actually looks decent.
00:24:41
Danchez
It doesn't have audio, but I'm like, oh, they did something good here. I'm actually probably going use this because I paid for the annual. If I was paying for the monthly, I would have unsubscribed already because ChatGPT's image maker and Google's a image maker is so good now.
00:24:56
Danchez
But this video thing, I'm like, ooh, I might start using Mid-Journey again for this.
00:25:01
Travis
I'm scrolling through their feed right now of just different photos people have created with ai They're pretty good, just the photos alone. So I was hoping to see if they had a feed of people's video creations, but I don't see it.
00:25:13
Danchez
You have to log in. There's like a wall of like all the goodness and they're really good.
00:25:14
Travis
Oh, of course.
00:25:17
Danchez
But I'm just telling you on like one image that I created this morning, I said, animate it. And they gave me four options and all four of them were decent. Some were, they were, they were pretty all closely aligned to what I, what the image was.
00:25:23
Travis
Wow.
00:25:28
Danchez
And none of them hallucinated like crazy. There's a slight subtle differences between all of them, but all of them would, I would have considered usable before.
00:25:35
Travis
That'd be cool for like intro. You want like a different visual intro with the same audio stinger and it matches, at least from the audio perspective, you don't need to like have the custom stuff.
00:25:40
Danchez
Yeah.
00:25:46
Travis
Did you see that video? Speaking of video, I don't know if it was made with mid journey, but it's really popular on Instagram right now. Basically someone cutting glass fruit.
00:25:55
Danchez
Yes. I think that's a Sora thing, but I know not, sorry, not Sora.
00:25:56
Travis
It's just, is it sore? mean, that's,
00:26:00
Danchez
It's a VO. I think it's Google VO.
00:26:01
Travis
Okay, probably is.
00:26:02
Danchez
That's what I heard.
00:26:03
Travis
It's like the, I don't, the the audio and the visuals is just fantastic.
00:26:10
Danchez
Yeah.
00:26:11
Travis
It's like,
00:26:11
Danchez
Yeah. It's like total just eye ear candy.
00:26:14
Travis
oh, it's yeah. Melt your brain.
00:26:16
Danchez
Yeah.
00:26:16
Travis
You're like, this is amazing.
00:26:18
Danchez
Yeah. People all of a sudden, I've seen the headlines for it. Like, Oh, teens are making millions of dollars on the AI video. I'm like, like one person's making probably tens of thousands of dollars.
00:26:30
Danchez
Calm it down. Freaking headlines. You know what i'm saying?
00:26:32
Travis
and know
00:26:32
Danchez
Like the headlines are always like, Oh, it's going on everywhere.
00:26:33
Travis
you
00:26:35
Danchez
All the teenagers. I'm like, no freaking one person made it on a random thing that just happened to work really well.
00:26:36
Travis
Everyone's just creating FOMO everywhere.
00:26:42
Danchez
Okay. Relax. Relax.
00:26:45
Danchez
All right, that's up for our news headlines. I'm going to move into our sponsored segment, High Level, which I'm repping today with a t-shirt.
00:26:50
Travis
Yeah, you are. Dang, merch is out.
00:26:52
Danchez
Woo, merchant. High Level, you guys have heard me talk about this before, and I've had to talk to many of you already, and I find that a big thing that people are saying is that it's expensive.
00:27:04
Danchez
It costs a lot, and i'm like, it costs a lot compared to what? And I'm like, okay, I guess ConvertKit starts at like $20 a month or something like that. And there's like other options out there versus HighLevel starts at $97 a month.
00:27:18
Danchez
But I'm like, I don't think you understand all the things that HighLevel does. It does funnels. It does calendars. It does CRM, market automation, text messages, phone calls, voice agents.
00:27:29
Danchez
It does all the different stuff. In fact, one of the voice, one of the agents that I think is actually very useful that every business needs to be using right now is just voice agents. So someone calls your phone number, AI answers and says, hi, welcome to so-and-so business. I'm the voice agent.
00:27:45
Danchez
How can I help you today? Or how can I get you started with this thing? Or whatever, you you you you you type that the intro line and you can have it lead even into a discovery conversation if you want to.
00:27:49
Travis
Bye.
00:27:57
Danchez
It could train frequently asked questions. You can feed it pages of your website. You can even have it go as far to be like, hey, yeah, I'd love to send you some information about that. Can I text it to the same number we're talking to?
00:28:08
Danchez
Okay, I just sent the text with the PDF in it. would you like to talk to somebody on our team to, um, discuss, discuss this over with? Sure. Yeah. When's a good time for you? I'm open.
00:28:20
Danchez
We have some openings on Thursday at 10 AM and 11 AM. It's that good that you could just literally book a meeting with it over the phone. I'm like, That's one of the uses of agents right there. That's actually the like the settings for it. It's really easy to set up.
00:28:35
Danchez
It sounds really good. It actually sounds pretty human now. and Before it was kind of painfully obvious, but now they just updated the voices to sound good that I'm like, everybody should be using this. But that's all the stuff you get with high level.
00:28:46
Danchez
That's why I think the $97 a month is like no brainer. But of course, some people are like just starting out. And I'm trying to think, like, if I were just starting out, I guess I'd just be using Google Sheets and SendFox for email, and that Google Sheets would be my CRM.
00:28:59
Travis
Right.
00:29:02
Danchez
and Until you're earning, you know, a few thousand bucks a month, and then you upgrade to something like high level. But I wouldn't, man, I wouldn't be going to ConvertKit or ActiveCampaign because you start getting more than a thousand emails in there, and that price goes up fast.
00:29:15
Travis
Bro. So expensive.
00:29:16
Danchez
Yeah.
00:29:18
Travis
I asked chat, cbt why should I start using high level? It's an all in one stack. No more app spaghetti. was like, oh, it really is You're all in one, all in one application.
00:29:26
Danchez
It's kind of the truth.
00:29:29
Danchez
it You can even build whole memberships in there. Is it as good as Circle? No. Circle's pretty good.
00:29:35
Travis
Didn't even know sir existed.
00:29:36
Danchez
But is it as good as School?
00:29:36
Travis
Wow.
00:29:38
Danchez
Yeah. Now, it doesn't have quite the community that school does, but it does all the stuff that school does. And I'm like, I'll be building a membership in there soon. It'll be really exciting. So it generally just does all the stuff.
00:29:48
Travis
wow
00:29:50
Danchez
Like I don't need PandaDoc anymore because it has invoicing and doc signing. And as soon as someone signs the doc, it changes it it over to ah ah billing invoice or I can send to them after the signed proposal whatever. It has like all the stuff.
00:30:03
Danchez
as It can handle numbers financial data and e-commerce data and all the things. Anyway, that's why I'm bullish on it. That's why if they hadn't reached out to me, I would i was starting to think of reaching out to them because I use them all time.
00:30:17
Danchez
Anyway, and enough about the sponsor. Obviously, I like them a lot. Let's move over to the everyday AI. What have you used AI for this week that it just is helpful? Something we haven't done before.
00:30:31
Travis
I forgot about this and it wasn't one of the original things that I was going to talk about. But recently I was bit by a dog right on my hand.
00:30:39
Travis
Drew blood had to rip my hand out of the dog's mouth.
00:30:39
Danchez
Oh.
00:30:39
Danchez
Oh.
00:30:43
Travis
The dog was barking over my fence. I wanted to talk to the neighbor. He did not see me approaching the the neighbor. The dog was already barking, which he normally does. I stuck my the back of my hand out.
00:30:54
Travis
just to greet the dog. That was a huge mistake. It latched on. Luckily was just the front of its teeth. It didn't quite get any fangs in there, but it definitely drew blood. So you better believe that I was using chat GBT. Okay.
00:31:08
Travis
What's the likelihood that my neighbor's dog has rabies? What is the likelihood that I have rabies? What are the symptoms of rabies? What should I do? It obviously was like, go to the hospital, go to the hospital, go to the hospital. I was like, no,
00:31:18
Danchez
Yeah, yeah,
00:31:20
Travis
And then it was like, here's how you clean it. This is what you need to do. here's So I was in kind of panic emergency mode, little bit of a medical thing, but I wanted to, you know, just get some information.
00:31:32
Travis
And it was like, it's very unlikely it has rabies. They probably wouldn't have it as a pet. It would already be showing signs. The one thing it didn't help out with was if you start showing signs of rabies, you're already dead.
00:31:44
Danchez
yeah. Yeah.
00:31:47
Travis
I woke up the next morning with a headache and I'm like, oh no.
00:31:51
Danchez
I'm going to die. Yeah, by the time a human gets rabies, you yeah it's game over for you.
00:31:52
Travis
Everything's fine. that
00:31:56
Travis
Yeah. Anyways, it's all fine. I don't have rabies, but I did use chat GPT in my.
00:32:02
Danchez
Did it calm you down a little bit? Yeah.
00:32:03
Travis
Yeah.
00:32:05
Danchez
That's a scary thing. Sorry you had to go through that.
00:32:07
Travis
I know. The one I did have was just using, which this is a stolen thing I saw on social media. You basically just turn the voice feature on AI. If you're sitting in a quiet room reading and if there's ever a word you come across or a statement or something that you're like, I'm just curious about to have chat GBT sitting on your shoulder and say, can you give me a little bit more information on the Roman Empire's beginning? Or i don't understand this formula.
00:32:35
Travis
It says it in this book. Where did this come from or what does it mean? And to have the voice feature is so convenient for for chat just to answer you. It's like a verbal dictionary that will give you the answers you're looking for immediately.
00:32:48
Travis
It doesn't work with kids running around screaming and talking because chat is very sensitive and will always talk to you. But it's nice if you're in a silent room And you need some help.
00:32:56
Danchez
Yeah.
00:32:59
Travis
So I've used it. It's fantastic reading finance books and not understanding what the heck, I don't know, a mutual fund account is or what's the difference between an
00:33:11
Travis
what's it an IRA versus a or a roth a Roth IRA versus a traditional IRA.
00:33:16
Danchez
yeah
00:33:17
Travis
So just asking those questions offhanded is really nice to have an intelligent assistant right there over your shoulder.
00:33:25
Danchez
Eventually it'll be listening all the time. And that's kind of creepy, but at the same time, it's just really convenient. If you're working, you're like, hey, AI, hey, chat.
00:33:35
Danchez
What am I doing this afternoon again? ah checks your calendar. You have this in this book. Why? there anything I can book for? Do you want me to move them? You're like, no, I was just wondering said i'd like to leave work a little early to go for a run.
00:33:46
Travis
Gosh, wouldn't that be nice? Oh yeah. Can you email my appointment at one 30 and tell them I'm going to be able to make it?
00:33:53
Travis
The problem is it's going to be so good like that. We're going to be lazy. Like, Oh, I have to talk.
00:33:53
Danchez
Yeah.
00:34:01
Danchez
Or more likely, it's like, oh, I'm in public right now. I just can't have a breakdown conversation with my AI without being rude to everybody standing around me right now.
00:34:09
Travis
Right, right.
00:34:10
Danchez
There's already times where I want to dictate, but I can't dictate because dictating for me for AI is faster. So I have to type it out with my thumbs.
00:34:15
Travis
Of course.
00:34:16
Danchez
and I'm already irritated. I'm like, oh, I got to type this whole sucker out because I can't just like start dictating.
00:34:20
Travis
Dude, so soon we'll all have Neuralink and we'll just have to think it a certain way and then it'll do it.
00:34:24
Danchez
No, I got to draw the line somewhere. ain't doing that. Elon Musk is really a fan of this. Like increase that, uh, the bandwidth rate between you and the computer. I'm like, no, pass.
00:34:37
Danchez
one of the ways I used AI this week, in fact, just yesterday i went and ordered a poster from Walgreens, right?
00:34:42
Travis
right?
00:34:42
Danchez
They got cheap print options. And I usually, you know, you're like, well, Walgreens, they always got coupons going on. Like always, if you're paying full price for a Walgreens thing, it's like, they always have coupon codes going on.
00:34:53
Danchez
So I'm like, JetGPT303, go find me the best coupon code you could find for this specific thing that I'm buying right now. I'm looking for 50% off, but see if you can find better.
00:35:05
Danchez
That's like, will do. I took a screenshot of it, searching, and then I posted it to LinkedIn yesterday. I'm like, coupon codes, rest in peace.
00:35:12
Travis
Dang, did it work?
00:35:14
Danchez
Coupon codes are going to die because everybody can do this now. like It used to take 10, 20 minutes to do to go find the coupon code. But now you can have AI scrape the coupon codes and go and find them and find out which ones are still valid.
00:35:25
Danchez
And it delivered.
00:35:25
Travis
Wow.
00:35:26
Danchez
It's like, hey, I found a 50% off one that it's it's guaranteed to work. But if you want 60% off for the product you're looking for, not. But there's some similar products you're looking for.
00:35:38
Danchez
that if you just change your product over to a subcategory, you can get 60% off. I was like, no, I want this, but thanks.
00:35:43
Travis
day.
00:35:46
Danchez
That was actually really nice. So really cool. The other one I did is not a ChatGPT thing. Almost everything we talk about is ChatGPT related. This one's not. I was trying to figure out again, it takes me so long to make the thumbnails for every single episode that I was still trying to figure out something that sped it up for me, but was asked also not using Photoshop because Photoshop's just like, it's a really difficult, robust, beefy tool. You get lost really easy. There's tons of settings.
00:36:14
Danchez
You take one misstep in Photoshop. And if you don't know what you're doing, you're, you're, you're gone. You're like, you're, you're
00:36:18
Danchez
it's hard for it was hard for me, but I've been recommending it to marketers because it just it's it's ability to do content-aware fill, essentially like just expand an image, to take like an image and be like, oh, but I just need it to be wider and to just blow it out wider. It's just so useful.
00:36:33
Danchez
But I discovered a tool that Adobe has where you could do that for way cheaper and way easier called Adobe Express. It's essentially their Canva ripoff. And now I'm using Adobe Express for all the thumbnails. I have essentially ChatGPT design all my thumbnails.
00:36:49
Danchez
I'm not even changing anything and and anymore. Whatever typography it takes, I'm just taking it. it's pretty good. I have a custom GPT that helps me build it. But I did a past episode to it. I'll link to it in the show notes on using...
00:37:02
Danchez
AI and chat GPT to build a custom GPT to build your thumbnails. the one difference in it now is I'm no longer using Photoshop. I'm now using Adobe Express. It's $10 a month to get access to this feature.
00:37:12
Travis
Wow.
00:37:12
Danchez
It's really smooth. You're literally like upload, resize, click, resize again, click, bam, bam. All a sudden it went from awkward size because that's the problem with chat GPTs. You can't specify dimensions, right?
00:37:23
Travis
I know. You try, and it just doesn't do it.
00:37:26
Danchez
But now you can with Adobe Express because you can upload it and be like, here's the proper dimensions. I want it to be YouTube thumbnail. And and like all the dimensions that you would need to know are in Adobe Express. You're like, I want YouTube thumbnail.
00:37:35
Travis
Mm.
00:37:37
Danchez
You don't have to Google it. It just knows YouTube thumbnail. Got you. Bam. Expand out from horizontal chat GPT image. You want to turn that YouTube thumbnail into a square image? No problem.
00:37:47
Travis
And then it generated fills or what does it do like generative fill when it expands out?
00:37:48
Danchez
Vertical. Bam. Huh?
00:37:52
Danchez
Yeah, just a generative fill. It's real smooth. It gives you three options because it hallucinates a little bit, which is what you want. It's it's essentially hallucinating. But it's good.
00:38:02
Danchez
And it gives you three options because, you know, you pick the right one that looks the right and then you're off.
00:38:03
Travis
and That's great. All right.
00:38:08
Danchez
It's done.
00:38:08
Travis
Dobie express.
00:38:10
Danchez
Adobe Express. I'm not a Canva user too because I'm sure it's different than Canva, but it's got it's it's it's essentially a Canva tool. canva rip off because cam was eating into their market share.
00:38:22
Danchez
And I like that because capitalism, but I don't like it either.
00:38:22
Travis
jos yeah'm like I don't know why I don't like Canva. I just don't like Canva.
00:38:26
Danchez
I don't know what it is. A lot of people like it. Every time I go in there, I'm like, ew, what is going on?
00:38:30
Travis
It's not intuitive. hate it.
00:38:34
Danchez
But whatever, a poll of the week, I asked the crew on LinkedIn. asked a really simple question. Actually i should have done a different poll, but this is the poll I have for this week. Okay. Uh,
00:38:44
Danchez
I asked everybody, i'm like, hey, on the topic of GEO slash AIO slash whatever the heck we want to call this ranking in chat GPT thing, because we can't figure out what we want to call it.
00:38:57
Danchez
I've heard a couple different terms for this now.
00:38:59
Travis
Whoa, I just got lost.
00:38:59
Danchez
I'm like,
00:39:00
Travis
What? Ranking in what?
00:39:02
Danchez
right so essentially what was SEO search engine optimization?
00:39:05
Travis
Oh, yeah. Ranking for i like artificial intelligence search, basically.
00:39:08
Danchez
AI. Yeah. It's yeah. Some people are calling it generative engine optimization. People are just calling it artificial intelligence optimization. like a AIO, which is, I think my favorite term right now is AIO.
00:39:18
Travis
and Yeah, I like AIO, too.
00:39:21
Danchez
it's It's a nice enough blending of AI and SEO that I'm like, yeah, that's that's actually the term I i would prefer.
00:39:24
Travis
Correct. GEO?
00:39:27
Danchez
Yeah. GEO sounds too much like GMO. Anyway, I asked everybody on LinkedIn, like, hey, I'm to do an episode on this. Should I make it a series, a five-part, or should I just do one episode? And of course, 81% of you all voted for a multi-part series. So that's going to come in August.
00:39:44
Danchez
I'm going to have some really good ah ah SEO people. break it down. Like what's working, what's not working.
00:39:50
Travis
Nice.
00:39:50
Danchez
What's how good is it working now? How much are we expecting it to be a thing in the future? But people that are like, I'm only interviewing, I'm going to do a five part interview series. I'm actually even going to have like an intro of me being like, this is what I'm hoping to learn.
00:40:02
Danchez
And outro of me saying like, this is what I learned. I'm going to turn it into, I'll probably turn it into a little mini course.
00:40:07
Travis
great
00:40:08
Danchez
but it's going to be released on the pod. And I'm going do five interviews with people that are have deep, deep expertise in SEO that are also diving deep into AI so that we can actually have like some of the best information on what it takes to rank in AI.
00:40:20
Travis
Right.
00:40:21
Danchez
Cause that's becoming a hot topic. Like chat GPT is starting to send some traffic now. It's not like Google. But when ChatGPT recommends you, people are trusting it more than they trust at Google, which is kind of crazy.
00:40:33
Travis
right
00:40:35
Danchez
So that's becoming a major topic for marketers. It's still pretty early. So expect that to drop sometime in August.
00:40:43
Danchez
Viral post of the week. This was, man, this isn't a marketing related post at all, but I just thought it was adorable. And like somebody using AI in such a fun and cool way that I was like, I got to talk about it on the show.
00:40:56
Danchez
Essentially, I'll link to it in the show notes. This video that went viral on LinkedIn probably went viral on X2, but I saw it on LinkedIn of a teacher showing all the students their future selves in the profession of their choice.
00:41:07
Travis
you
00:41:13
Danchez
So one, they got the the kids because chat GPT is pretty good at like making this up. You take a picture of the kid, you feed it to chat GPT, be like, Hey, show me what this kid looks like as a 30 year old in this profession.
00:41:26
Danchez
Like, show me this little girl as an astronaut. And then it puts her like 30 years old, still likeness. You're like, Oh, it could look like her at 30. You don't know.
00:41:36
Travis
Oh, yeah, it definitely looks like the kids. They're showing a video of the kids' reaction, seeing a picture of them in their older selves, and the picture of their older selves definitely looks like them.
00:41:38
Danchez
Yeah.
00:41:41
Danchez
Yeah.
00:41:47
Travis
It's amazing.
00:41:47
Danchez
plausible as far as how they'll look in the future, which is crazy to think like you can have a pretty reasonable expectation of what you're going to look like in the future.
00:41:47
Travis
Uh-huh. Yeah.
00:41:55
Danchez
But it has them like if they're a veterinarian, then they're holding a cat and they're wearing like the veterinarian coat or whatever, you know? So like, it's just really cool. I'm like, what a cool thing to do as a teacher. Like, of course, a lot of kids are seeing this probably just doing it of themselves, but As a marketer, you got to know, like seeing, like a lot of people don't have the ability to see what the outcome looks like, which is why we use pictures of hammocks on beaches to show them what they could look like there.
00:42:26
Travis
Right. Wow.
00:42:27
Danchez
But with AI, pretty soon we'll be able to show them with them there. Just like this teacher showing this kid a ah ah ah ah picture of their future selves.
00:42:37
Danchez
That's why dream boards are really, can be important. Because if you can visualize it, it's one major step you could take forward to ah ah accomplishing the goal. That's why it's a major step in a lot of goal setting is actually being able to visualize you actually succeeding there because then your brain starts getting to work on building a bridge to that possible reality.
00:42:57
Travis
Right. Right.
00:42:59
Danchez
That's why it it works in the reverse too. Like if you start visualizing destruction happening to you, like it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
00:43:05
Travis
right
00:43:06
Danchez
Your brain starts recreating what needs to happen in order to get there. It's why they say like, you know, don't, don't focus on the distraction on the side of the road. Stay focused on where you're going because otherwise you end up drifting towards that thing all the time.
00:43:19
Danchez
It's the funny thing your brain does. But I'm like, that's what we do as marketers. In the future, we'll be talking about how to scale AI to be able to do that. What this teacher is doing, we'll be able to do it in mass.
00:43:29
Danchez
But right now we could even do it on an individual basis.
00:43:29
Travis
Wow. Right. Yeah. Wow.
00:43:32
Danchez
Like you could take a picture of your client you're working with and show them in the desired position, desired thing that they want to be doing and send it to them in an email if they're worth enough. I don't know. Like there's some industries and some use cases where this is, you you could be doing this on a one-to-one basis already, but eventually we'll be doing it in mass and it'll be like minority report status.
00:43:54
Danchez
Hello, Travis. How would you like to be? You know, look at you in these sneakers.
00:43:57
Travis
wow
00:44:02
Travis
Yeah, well, haven't seen AI take my image and do justice with it just yet. It's trying.
00:44:09
Danchez
I did just post on LinkedIn. Again, I'm trying to get people to realize that ChatGPD can be a design designer for you. You can use Adobe Express now. But people do have a hard time. i've I've started getting over the fact that it doesn't quite look like me.
00:44:24
Danchez
And every time I send you a thumbnail, you're like, bro, that ain't you. I'm like, close enough. Most people recognize it as me.
00:44:31
Travis
We won't even be talking about this in the next six months.
00:44:31
Danchez
So if you go to my YouTube.
00:44:33
Travis
They'll fix it and it'll be amazing, I'm sure.
00:44:35
Danchez
Yeah. Yeah. And right now it's close enough. Like if you go to my YouTube thumbnails, like you just go to my YouTube channel and see all the thumbnails back to back, you're like, yeah, that's Dan. Some of them look more or less like me.
00:44:46
Travis
Right.
00:44:47
Danchez
It's all based on images of me, but it's close enough. Sometimes i have to use a face swap tool to get it closer, but some of them look like slightly chubbier versions of myself or like my eyes aren't quite red or cheekbones aren't quite right or whatever, but it's close enough.
00:45:02
Travis
Right.
00:45:03
Travis
Right. Right.
00:45:03
Danchez
and then it'll just get better.
00:45:04
Danchez
So I don't know. If you want to do that kind of thing, like I'm doing and like I'm promoting now, just realize that it's not going to look like 100% like you. It's going get like 90, 95%. It's going to be close though.
00:45:13
Travis
right
00:45:15
Danchez
Everybody else will be able to recognize it as you. Let's put it that way. And that's probably more than enough right now.
00:45:21
Travis
right
00:45:22
Danchez
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00:45:36
Danchez
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00:45:54
Danchez
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00:46:05
Danchez
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