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Arc 23: Drone - Dissecting Worm

S4 E8 · Brockton Bay Book Club
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Dissecting Worm: The sister podcast to Brockton Bay Book Club where our hosts Jacob and Allan discuss adapting Worm for television.

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First Path - Control. Second Path - Magnification. Fourth Path - Flight. Thirteenth Path - Protection. Thirty-first Path - Dissection.

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Timestamps:

(00:00) - Introduction

(01:10) - Dissecting Begins

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Introduction to Worm and its Audience

00:00:00
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Worm is a web serial by J.C. McCray, also known as Wildbo. You can read Worm in its original format by visiting parahumans dot.wordpress dot.com or donate to Wildbo's Patreon at patreon dot.com slash wildbo. This story isn't intended for young or sensitive readers. Readers who are on the lookout for trigger warnings are advised to give Worm a pass.

Arc 23 and Behemoth Fight Discussion

00:00:24
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00:01:08
Speaker
Take that, you worms. Alan, we are in arc 23. How does that feel you so far? we're We're so far. We're so close. I I'm so ready for Ward getting there. It's close. Got a few more arcs to go.
00:01:29
Speaker
This is a, uh, this is a short arc. Like a lot happens. There's a lot of good moments, but it's relatively short compared to arcs before and after it's only five chapters in an interlude.

Season Finale Dilemma: Behemoth or Extend?

00:01:40
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Yeah. So some, some fun stuff to kind of get into here as we ramp up towards the behemoth fight, which is, which is going to be, uh, that's, that's pretty much the climactic fight of probably the season, I think.
00:01:59
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. And we've talked about before, uh, in this arc that the or not this arc, but this, this season, I think the correct goal is to go, you know, towards the behemoth fight as the finale rather than I'll be honest, I'm trying to remember what happens in the next couple of arcs by number. But, um,
00:02:29
Speaker
You know, i I know what happens in the back half of this. i think I think the behemoth fight needs to be the season finale for this one.

Character Focus: Taylor and Supporting Cast

00:02:37
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um Yeah, it's it's tricky because I kind of agree. um But at the same time, that would be putting the Slaughterhouse 9000 with all of the Jack and Gollum stuff and all of the Sion stuff in the final season, which maybe there's, maybe that's good. Maybe that'll work, but that does, I feel like that could also sort of overload the final season a bit. um So maybe you get through the Slaughterhouse 9000 in this season. um But again, maybe that bloats this too much with that and Behemoth. So it's a little it's a little tricky.
00:03:14
Speaker
Okay. Well, I mean, here's a couple of things for this season. Um, this season has really been heavily, uh, Taylor focused. And I think the way we split this up is, I mean, we talked about dragon and defiant, essentially running around chasing, continuing to do their chase of the slaughterhouse nine. Yep. I think.
00:03:43
Speaker
You know, that's a side story. I think the irregulars slash, ah you know, the cauldron hunting slash culture and intrigue be another part of this that you can still jump back to. um Maybe even, I mean, if you wanted to, you could go back to the undersiders for a few clips here and there. ah Oh yeah, easily. I mean, and you you would you'd absolutely 100% do that. One thing, even even reading worm,
00:04:12
Speaker
One thing that always bothered is the wrong word. But I did hate how at this point in the story, the undersiders are essentially just gone from from the story, aside from a few moments like they really are because it is Taylor's story. It's her POV or it makes sense when you're reading it. But just as fans as a fan of those characters, we see so little of them moving forward. You know, ah again, I'm going to be a little I'm exaggerating that there, but I think that's one thing that audiences would really, really dislike is if the show pulled away from the undersiders as much as the serial does.

Taylor's Growth and Leadership

00:04:58
Speaker
Yeah. Um, I think you're right. I think keeping Taylor at least in contact with tattletale and then showing the undersiders doing their stuff. Um,
00:05:11
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um I think for this season, it works to have her, like they're in the first half. There's like one or two episodes in the middle, you know, a couple of episodes in the middle in which they're kind of absent and then they're back again to meet her. And then we kind of maybe follow them doing their own thing while she is doing her thing with the wards. So like, I feel like they'd be in there enough pretty easily. And then in the last season, there's so much going on. I think as long as we showed them a little bit, like there's so much going on. I think the last season is more about wrapping up loose ends than it is about staying with the undersiders necessarily. Oh yeah, I mean, and again, my opinion will always change as as I reread these arcs. In my mind though, the last season is entirely
00:06:11
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everything that has to do with, with Sion leading up to and through gold morning. Yeah. I think you, I think you literally like the last season is just the climax. It's, it's everything. It's just everything coming to fruition. It's the end of the world. Like, yeah, you just do the whole final season is that, and you know, save an episode, full episode of the, at the very end is like your cool down epilogue, but That's why I was thinking like, maybe it's too bloated to try to do the slaughterhouse 9,000 everything

Team Dynamics and Betrayals

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post. I really do think we scrap the slaughterhouse 9,000 for the most part. I think just having column track down Jack with, uh, with Taylor and them, um, if that's mostly what I'm referring to. Yeah. If we were to invent
00:07:08
Speaker
A season, which I think would be perfectly doable. I think the season would be focusing on a suicide squad of Gollum, uh, Taylor, you know, dragon defiant, and it would be the chit, the hunt of Jack slash trying to stop the end of the world. Um, and you know, a lot of slaughterhouse nine versus them.
00:07:34
Speaker
Uh, antics. You said season, you mean like, like storyline? If we, yeah, if we were inventing and like, ah literally, I think it would, I think it would deserve to take up an entire season if we're going to treat it that way. Um, you know, chasing down the slaughterhouse nine and all the, just you know, destruction they're causing. Uh, but as it stands, I think you would just,
00:07:59
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roll the end of this season with the behemoth fight, the next one, you maybe spend one or two episodes tracking and fighting Jack. And we'll just say there's 10 episodes, the next eight episodes being a combination of talking to cadron bit cauldron,
00:08:24
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fighting scion, you know, like all the different things. Like there's a lot that goes on there. You're talking about the the next season or or this season? ah Next season. Okay. Okay. For sure. Um, let's get into this arc specifically. I got some notes for this arc and then we can talk about, um, bigger plot stuff. Kind of circle back to that.
00:08:52
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Yeah. I got a couple of notes as well. What do you got? All right. Um, so 23.1 I had at the end. Uh, this is a lot of new faces. There's a lot of new faces and not only that, but we're going to be seeing like every arc or every chapter after this is just a whole new group of people. Basically. Mm-hmm.
00:09:20
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And I think that's too many. I'm okay doing the like, here's all the teams. Like I would, I would not even have all the young people. I just have all the ah team leads telecom in or, you know, drop in. And so there's like five of them or something and they like, Hey, Chicago is basically like wool taker and.
00:09:49
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then they go on, she goes with her team and if she stays with one consistent team that is running around maybe helping other people. So like when they go to Vegas, like she's still with her team. When they go to New York, was it Chicago or New York or wherever, they're still with her team. Like u I think we,
00:10:16
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I think you could have the New Vegas or the Vegas capes um still do their betrayal thing. It is still a lot. It's it's a lot for a short amount of time.
00:10:31
Speaker
Yeah, i think ah I think there's a pretty easy solution here that's that's pretty baked into the story already. It makes a lot of sense because I agree. I really like a lot of what happens in the in these chapters. There's a lot of good stuff, but the amount of new characters that don't stick around or are too relevant, like this is very, very easy. This is the Chicago wards.
00:10:55
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We just bump up their introduction and her and her and her assimilation with them to now we've already met them, which is perfect because they get introduced briefly at the end of the last season. And now they're sort of main players. Like that's just how you introduce characters in TV shows, introducing other main characters. yeah And then you start and you just, you replace all these, they keep the scenes. You just replace the characters with the Chicago words. That's her team now.
00:11:20
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Yeah, I think the Chicago wards, you, you take the, uh, the Vegas wards and you cut their number in half so that the important ones are like, there's like two of them and then pretender and they're still all Chicago, you know, Chicago team.

Integrating Chicago Wards

00:11:40
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And they still do the betrayal, but we have that take place basically all the way to the behemoth fight. Like,
00:11:50
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It is a subterfuge. We're, you know, keeping pretender on lockdown. And it is that way. It's felt as more of a blow that like, no, why, do why should we go fight behemoth? The world's ending soon. Can't you see that? Like this is all broken, yada, yada, yada. And then they, they escape and leave. Um,
00:12:14
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um
00:12:17
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Yeah, i think I think having that happened happen within the team that she's working with would feel more impactful and it cuts down on the total number of ah people we got to deal with. Also, I think you can cut the Bambina fight probably. I think we just make this a number man fight maybe. Right.
00:12:48
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Yeah. and And we, you could tie that more in with cauldron that like pretender did something. They're pretty sure it's with cauldron. Like he basically had to cash in his favor, you know, that cauldron asks him to do. And that's why he did whatever he did. And then, um, yeah. Yep. Yeah. I'm an agreement there. Yeah. Honestly, most of my notes for all of these chapters is like, man, this chapter is is such an aside compared to the overarching plot. We really need to tie all this together.
00:13:18
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ah behemoth at the end. Um, and then build up the Chicago wards a lot more so that when we get to the behemoth fight, if we're making the finale, that's when they go, Hey, you're in charge. Yeah. I really like that why that that conversation between Taylor and, um, was it tecton? Yeah. Yeah. It's a great moment. I love that. I love that moment in the last chapter.
00:13:46
Speaker
And she just sort of like, okay, and takes charge and they're all just sort of like, yep. Because again, like reading it, that makes a lot of sense because you're like, Oh yeah, the Chicago wars, they saw her fight a kidney. Like you, there's some built-in respect there at that point. yeah But for viewers, if you don't build up to that moment, that it loses so much impact because now viewers are going back like,
00:14:09
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you know, but in a perfect world, maybe a year ago when the last season came

Adapting Taylor's Arc for TV

00:14:14
Speaker
out. Oh yeah, that team that was there. Okay. Here they are again. Okay. So they, yeah, they trust her. That's fine. They're like, you want those are, that's a good moment. You want that to hit. So you you need to see, I really think you like you said, I think you need to build up the Chicago words a bit more before the fight actually happens. Build up a relationship with them. Just, just kind of drive it home a little bit. and Yeah. Especially if we start off with her basically handicapped, you know,
00:14:37
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Hey, you can't do this. You can't do that. And her being like, okay, Hey, I'm, I'm bottom rung on the totem pole. I'm going to try and both prove myself, but also, you know, hang back a little to learn what's going on. So at the start, she's listening for orders. She's doing all this yada yada. But then when push comes to shove, things go down. She, you know, does ultimately have the experience.
00:15:05
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to, and and just the talent, like, you know, we've talked about using butterflies to beat the bad guys. Like she ultimately has the talent to win a tactically in a lot of these fights. So, you know, when things yeah have her follow orders for the first fight, have her, you know, uh, step up a little bit more in the second fight. And then the third fight, you know, Tekton gets buried or something for a second. So she takes over and starts giving orders real quick.
00:15:34
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And finally leads to the behemoth fight where they're like, you clearly are the experienced person that we need to like get through this. You know, you're a veteran compared to everyone else. Go ahead and take charge. Yeah.
00:15:54
Speaker
I also, I think this is this is one of those sort of like overarching ah themes that I think we can you can just really sell through a visual medium because ah one thing that I love about Worm is the way the story, the way Wild Bow just sort of very naturally ah progresses the story so that when you reach gold morning,
00:16:18
Speaker
Taylor's decisions feel very, very natural. And it's a lot of these slow builds where she is put in a leadership position. She is given that tactical over overhead control and steps right into it. And people are willing to listen to her because they sort of understand that she's got a bit of a mind for that, probably like ah like a byproduct of small thinker power.
00:16:45
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um yeah And it's it just happens over and over again throughout the story where she's put in control and she does what she thinks is best and people listen to her, of course, consensually at this point. oh yeah But it it and that it's just the way that builds towards gold morning is great because then we get there and she just and that she takes over everything because that's what she's been doing.
00:17:08
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And finally she has the ability to just bypass asking, right? And just do it. And it it it's just such a natural step for her. I absolutely love it. And I think I love these moments and I think we want to kind of highlight them in a subtle way as possible so that when we get to gold morning, Taylor's rise and fall feels earned and feels justified.
00:17:35
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Yeah. The comparison I like to make is because you are essentially in the story, you are leading, it's a tragedy. From beginning to end, it is it is a tragedy. It's a Greek tragedy. It hits all the beats of a Greek tragedy and Taylor's eventual fall despite, you know, quote, winning the day is sad. It's like a sad ending and it's beautiful.
00:18:01
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But it's sad and you want to avoid the same pitfalls we see in a lot of other shows that attempt to do that, like the obvious one being Game of Thrones, right? Everybody wanted Daenerys on the Iron Throne.
00:18:17
Speaker
but she doesn't get it and it's sad. And that should hit, that should be a satisfying ending, but it wasn't, mostly because it was rushed, but a lot of it because it just didn't feel deserved at the end. Like her whole plot, and I'm gonna go on a little tangent, Daenerys' whole plot of of freeing the slaves, of championing the small folk,
00:18:44
Speaker
Which the the class division is such a major theme within gosh the more you're making me think about this the more i'm like no the like the teneras taylor arcs are the same.
00:18:56
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you
00:18:59
Speaker
keep going. I'm running through this now. Yeah. So, I mean, and she is, she, you know, Daenerys goes through all these trials. She's, she's constantly having to work for everything, but she's getting there. She's doing it. And then in the show, she gets to King's Landing and burns the town of small folk and people. And they're just like, what? Aren't you, aren't those like, they would have followed you. Like you just killed your own people. Like it's just, it's a bizarre choice. And again, could have worked. I think if they had built her rise a bit differently, um you know,
00:19:41
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ah I would have done it differently, aside from the point. All that to say, Daenerys' eventual tragic fall did did not click with anybody. yeah Nobody liked it. it was ah It was a complete failure of a character arc.
00:19:57
Speaker
and yeah You can learn a lot of lessons from it and I think we can when trying to do Taylor's arc because like you just said I think there are a lot of similarities but Taylor's especially when reading the story it works so much better because by the time you get to that moment, which is It's an evil moment, right? it is it is and it is It is control of people without their consent. It is it is complete and total control of the universe is what she has there. And it's evil. She's doing it for for interior internalized justification and it worked out for her, but it could have easily not worked out for her, right? All that to say,
00:20:42
Speaker
It's a, it's a tragic fall im because I like a broken record, but it's, it's a sad tragic end to this story. And we want to make sure that when we get there, audiences are like crying because they're enjoying the fall, not because they are hating the character, you know? Yeah. So because now you got me thinking about game of thrones and how like you could have ended with the same I wouldn't have kept everything. But you could have ended with the whole like John and her having the face off in the throne room and all that. Oh, yeah. I had her burn the city. You you just have to prep that arc better. Like that could have been an enjoyable. Yeah. Fuck the city. Burn it down. Like the audience is the audience is with you and gets it. Yeah. But in this case, we didn't we didn't understand why the hell she was doing such a stupid thing. Yeah.
00:21:37
Speaker
Exactly. And and you don't want you don't want to get to gold morning and for the audience to go, what is she doing? This stupid thing for Taylor. What are you doing? Like you yeah you want them to feel it with her.
00:21:50
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So yeah I think little moments like this are really important that we give her these moments where she does get to take charge and people are listening to her and she's, and she is that tactician. She thinks she knows what's best. Right. Uh, this is the type of stuff that we get in a lot of the inner monologue when reading the story that we have to now visually show because we don't have the crutch of the, of the internal monologue.
00:22:22
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Mm hmm. Agreed. Yeah. I mean, I'm really excited to debate the morality of Taylor's decision at the end of this. Because I also have thoughts. That's good. I know. I kind of were kind of hinting at a little bit. Hey, this is the spoiler podcast. But yeah, no, it's going to be great when we get there. There's so much so much to talk about both on the book club side and for adaptations. I think there's a lot of a lot of fun stuff to get into.

Character Development and Story Pacing

00:22:54
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Back into arc 2023. I just had a couple other notes, but nothing too big in terms of the arc itself. Well, go for it, because I'm out of notes. that I've said my notes. Yeah. um A couple of small things. This is the arc we learned that Atlas died, right? um yeah We're going to do our boy a bit better. I think he dies during the echidna fight, if I'm going to throw it out there. but um open to suggestions on that one. I think, I think, you know, we give Atlas the old Antony ah routine from Ant-Man. ah Yes. Make the audience fall in love with him and then. and be just I wish those movies were more memorable to care. Who are we talking about? Antony was the one Ant that Ant-Man named.
00:23:44
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And Pym was like, don't name the ants. Like, I'm naming this one Antony. And Antony gets shot out from under him while he's in the climactic fight. And everyone's sad, even though it's just a freaking ant, you know? We give we got to give Atlas the ah the exit he deserves. Did that happen in Ant-Man 1? Yeah. Man, what a forgettable movie. ah Hold your tongue. I love that movie. ah what What a forgettable protagonist.
00:24:14
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Um, yeah, it hurts. What a forgettable actor. Okay. Well, now we're just throwing around hate speech. That that is correct. Now I'm just, I'm just saying I believe all those things, but also ah now I am just being hurtful.
00:24:36
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at least
00:24:39
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Atlas gets a better ending. That's one thing I noted small little things to to do. I love, I love reading about the whole Weaver dice game, but you kind of cut that. There's just over influence. It's a lot of fun though. We should play some Weaver dice. That'd be fun.
00:24:56
Speaker
I mean, where where could we possibly play some merchandise, Jacob? That's a good question. Maybe our patrons would be interested. Oh, my goodness. On Patreon? Is that where you could find us rolling up characters? And maybe if you donated enough money, we would consider playing a game? Oh, well, it just might be. Let's go!
00:25:24
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and um Even Hannah thinks so. Yeah. That'll be fun. ah But yeah, probably cut that. We get more Miss Yamada here, which reminded me again that I do really like her character. And I do think we should probably go back and put more Miss Yamada in very periodically.
00:25:43
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Not often, um, but even prior to the the interlude, I would go back even to like season one and just be, have her, you know, throw her in there. Um, I think she's a great character and I would not be opposed to having her more present in the story overall. I, yeah. Cause I think there's some moments where maybe you could get
00:26:09
Speaker
Okay. So here, here's my issue is, well, it's important to have, you know, have a therapist there. I feel like that's a season two thing given how everything goes down in season one. Oh yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah, sure. You could easily do that post Leviathan. Cause it's one of the changes that like canonically, um,
00:26:33
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Weld wants to do, you know, he's got all these big ideas. Right. And I think, you know, sending people to therapy would be a good one. And it would also be great to be like, Hey, also Amy, despite you not being on the team, if you want to get in on that, and she's like, nah, bro, I can do it without therapy. Yeah. Like a dumb bitch. Yeah. Um, that makes sense. I like that.
00:26:59
Speaker
Yeah, but that, I mean, that's a great point for having like Vista come in and talk and yeah, exactly. Have them unpack a lot of the, a lot of the stuff. Um, and then I'm trying to remember what she would do in season three, cause season three is really busy. Oh swear, but yeah.
00:27:20
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At the end, you don't always have to, you know, not every character is in every episode. It's, you know, it's, it's periodic. It's when the story calls for it, but yeah and you're right. I think you throw her in like every third episode, just a reminder that she exists. Yeah. Just a background character, but I think she's a, she's a really strong background character. Yes. Yes. Um,
00:27:46
Speaker
Couple other small things. I like the jetpack. I really like the conversation between Taylor and Armistmaster here, and I think it would. work a lot better if we kind of are doing what we're talking about, which is a sort of giving Armistmaster and Dragon more of a side quest, sort of B or C plot over the last season and a half. um Getting to this conversation, I think will help because I love this conversation. yeah i i it's a It's a really, really nice coming full circle moment from when they first meet
00:28:24
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in the first chapter or first mark. um Yeah, great moment. And I really want to make sure that that, that hits hard. It's a good moment. Also a couple other things that, cause like when reading this, I was like, I was reminded of how I felt when I first read it, which is, Oh, they're setting up arms master to die. Like this is it. This is they're giving him his redemption. He's done it. He's fought the nine. He's reconciled with Taylor.
00:28:55
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He's going against behemoth. This is this is this is the send off. And then reading the next arc and realizing, oh, no, it was Alex send off. We probably should have heard more from him a little bit.
00:29:15
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ah And I do think that, especially if you do want to put undersiders more into the story for the season, that there's a focus there on Alec, a subtle focus, yeah but a little bit more of a focus because next arc is coming and we want the audience

Cody's Relevance and Yangban Dynamics

00:29:34
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to cry. True. Yeah. That's all my ah my main chapter notes. We can talk about the ah interlude for a little bit, but it's all I got for like the first, those those five chapters.
00:29:45
Speaker
Yeah, I really don't have a whole lot else. I think just, like I said, maybe scattering these things. I mean, we we've already talked about everything. I don't feel like this really needs that much attention. Yeah. Talk about the interlude real quick because we had a couple, a couple commenters, a couple of our patrons ah talking about um Cody and Cody's role in the story. Dora the dude was talking about how, uh,
00:30:13
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how we we sort of wrote and slash killed off Cody back in, you know, last season um with the traveler's arc, which I do stand by. Oh, I stand by completely. And I double it down after reading this. after um I do agree. I don't like Cody's inclusion in the story at this point. um It feels again, I kind of use this term a lot, but it feels unearned.
00:30:42
Speaker
Right. It feels really random that we get him now. Um, it feels like a cop out just to kill a cord and trip up Chevalier and tattletale. Um, I'm not opposed to a cord dying at all.
00:30:59
Speaker
And I get why in the story it works, but this would be a really, I think at this point be a very hard sell for a, for a TV series specifically to not change this, to, to wrap up the travelers arc last season, send them all back home. And then in the climactic battle of the next season, the one traveler we forgot about shows up to kill a court. It's a little little jarring.
00:31:31
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That being said, I do really like the Yangban. and the different ah approach to Cape, uh, you know, uh, what's the word I'm thinking of? Like Cape dynamics. Yeah. Thank you. Cape dynamics. Really fun to see something beyond Brockton Bay in the, in the U S right. Um, really, really liked seeing them in action. And I mean, it's fun. It's not just them, but I mean, it's fun seeing the other teams.
00:32:08
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Yeah. It's a big note that I'm going to talk about the other in the book club, but yeah seeing the the different dynamics, the different, and we talk about the hot cold of India. We talk about the young one sort of collective power set, yeah um the subterfuge focus of ah Vegas.
00:32:27
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the I mean, the opening scene, ah the the visualization of the Yongban goes so hard. Like the opening shot of them all on, they're like on a rooftop or something, all 42 of them, they get blasted by behemoth's clap and then collectively use Cody's power to just like unblast them back into position is just the coolest visual.
00:32:51
Speaker
I mean, it's that the shield and then them all doing the lasers together. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's good. Would go so hard and they're so cinematic. I think it would be great as just sort of a cool off, you know, side thing during the behemoth. Like, I don't think you need to include Cody in that at all. No, I agree. I don't think, I don't think Cody needs to be a part of it.
00:33:17
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i mean i you Obviously, you've got the easiest answer for how a chord dies with the fact that Behemoth is there. Behemoth can just kill him. If you wanted to go a little bit more complex with it, because a chord would probably be a little bit smarter than that to be in Behemoth's way.
00:33:35
Speaker
you know you Pick your poison. you can There's a number of different ways or or characters that could kill him if you wanted to. um You know, I haven't even really put too much thought into it, but there's, there's some different answers. We don't, we don't need Cody there to, uh, to, to be the, the one holding the,

Adapting Behemoth Arc: Challenges Ahead

00:33:56
Speaker
holding the gun. there I think, uh, I think that about wraps up arc 23 here. Next arc will be behemoth, which is going to be a lot of fun to get into. It's a long arc. oh boy you fight Yes. A lot of fun moments in this that I remember. Yep.
00:34:16
Speaker
And then after that, it's the ah we get we get the time skip. So we're coming up on these big moments. I think it's always easier to like work with these big moment stuff. It's like more clear whether you should keep it or cut it or manipulate it or whatever. So it'll be fun. Yeah. Yeah.
00:34:37
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I know we talked so much on this podcast about like, Oh, well, you know, it's really going to depend when we get to this moment, how we're going to work everything else around it. And I feel like we've been saying that a lot recently. Yeah. So, you know, we've had Alexandria and now the Hemith are like the two big moments of the season. So it's going to be nice to finally have them out. Everything else will be easier to kind of. Exactly. Kind of put some structure to the season for sure.
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but thanks for sticking with us through these other arcs that are harder to figure out. And with that, I mean, listen, we say it all the time, but give us your thoughts. This is is is it's a really fun challenge. I've said this many times, ah responding to comments and ideas, love reading them because this is this is the really fun part about adaptations is when you get to these like nitty gritty chapters that You kind of just want to skip over but but has important stuff that you need for the story and trying to figure out how to work that in and and spread it out. so what's get you know get it Hit us up. What are your ideas? Let us know. Shout out to us. but just Put it in the comments. YouTube, Reddit. Our patrons have some have some exclusive chats that they're a part of. If you want to join that, we'd love to have you.
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ah So, yeah, let it let us know what you're thinking. We'd love to hear your thoughts. I'd love to hear somebody defend Cody. ah Give me a reason to keep that bastard in the story. I want to hear it. Yes. All right. Thanks, guys. Yeah, I mean, it's a short one, but but it's going to be be a longer next episode. So thanks for listening. And Yeah. I guess, I guess we'll end it there. I think that's, I think that's a nice little, little breath for better better for all the better for Michael to edit. it we we got him We got him a break this week. You're welcome, Michael. Join the Patreon and we'll see you next week. Take that you worms.