We are joined by Tom Slattery, a former site member of the US Army's Delta Force, and his wife, Jen, where we discuss the bloodshed, the wounds, the moments of guilt, depression and trauma that they have dedicated their lives to help other members of the Special Forces and their loved ones heal from, and how they think this approach would help anyone.

Tom is one of the Delta Force commandos who participated in the 1993 Battle of Mogadishu where 18 Americans, one Malaysian and two Turkish service members were killed. The battle become the inspiration for Mark Bowden's book, Black Hawk Down.

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