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Late Night Rant: Stop Taking Random Herbs!
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Introduction and Supplementation Philosophy
00:00:00
chrisyzen
Hey, it's k Christian Jourdanoff. Welcome back to the show. Let's talk about herbs. You're taking too damn many of them. Too damn many. I don't know you, but i can guess a lot of well a fairly big subset of people that are into their longevity into their health or want to get better want to get healthier this is the journey we all we all go down where we start the with kind of this shotgun approach to to supplementation and i
Analyzing and Critiquing Supplements
00:00:42
chrisyzen
the more The more you learn, the more you the more targeted you you become, right the more you kind of learn to simplify. The thing about herbs, the reason why I have a lot of clients that come to me and they might be I'm not even joking on 25 30 supplements not even kidding you and plenty plenty of folks are already on like 15 plus supplements which in some senses is is good because I don't have to convince them to take a few more
00:01:16
chrisyzen
they're already on board and that's really beneficial because if you're smart about your supplementation you can make huge progress really quickly and you can really um fill in the gaps of your in terms of your diet, in terms of reducing stress hormones because you pushed yourself a little bit too hard and stuff like that. The problem is a lot of folks They like when I start looking over at all the products are taking like I analyze every single product that you're on and um If I haven't heard of something I'm gonna obviously Research it look at the ingredients list
00:01:59
chrisyzen
look at how much every ingredient of every ingredient is in the supplement also um any like specific things that shouldn't be in there right and from what I've seen what ah what folks that are kind of piecemealing of health program on their own what they do is they're a little bit suckered in by fancy marketing terms and stuff and this thing here has 12 ingredients and each one of those ingredients has amazing research in cells in kind of in vitro or in some animal like a couple of animal studies that showed amazing results
00:02:46
chrisyzen
you know And we if you're smart, if you're good at marketing, you can definitely say things like this compound has anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, antimicrobial, anti-cancer properties, and it could be factually correct, right?
Curcumin and Misleading Research
00:03:05
chrisyzen
But that research might not have been done in humans, it might have been not even been done in animals, it could have been done in In vitro, like I said, like they could have discovered a mechanism where if you expose certain cells to, I don't know, curcumin, they die. and those and Let's say those cancer cells were those cells or cancer cells, then yeah it's like an anti-cancer effect, but do we know? Is it an anti-cancer effect or would that curcumin have killed any other cell that was like a healthy cell?
00:03:41
chrisyzen
because that's not an anti-cancer effect, that's a cytotoxic effect, that is a cytotoxic meaning um toxic to a cell. you know So it's very easy to hoodwink people with fancy sounding terms look let me give you an example i went to chat gpt and i said what did i say i said what are the mechanisms behind turmeric i mean okay it's like 10 o'clock in the 10 pm at night and i've had a full day long day so i'm a bit tired i'm too lazy to even write a damn question right but anyway the the computer knows the ai knows what what i'm asking so
00:04:28
chrisyzen
it starts listing all these beneficial effects anti-inflammatory effects and actually but funny interesting quick anecdote um last I think it was last year I We were out with with my wife and my kid on the playground and there were some kids playing Football and I played some football with the kids ah Kicking the ball around and just trying to impress everybody with I still got it, you know ah and
00:05:03
chrisyzen
Always was fine and good until the next day and the day after I just had this very severe ah pain in my legs the domes the delayed onset of muscle soreness and It was so weird, but I think it was the second so the first day a lot of pain whatever second day um for whatever reason I told my wife I'm gonna make a curry so I made the curry with kind of beef and coconut milk and I put it to have this yellow curry sort of mix powder organic whatever the hell that's mostly turmeric and a little bit of cumin and whatever black pepper and a couple of other bits and pieces right maybe some coriander and I put a crapload of that in there
00:05:53
chrisyzen
made the curry, ate a ton of it and then a couple of hours later I was like it just dawned on me that I had less pain in my legs and then I was like I said to my wife oh man i I got it now. Why was I craving the curry?
Nutrient Deficiencies and Cravings
00:06:13
chrisyzen
It's because the of the anti-inflammatory analgesic effects that turmeric has. And it's kind of like this so almost instinctual thing. i Obviously, i I knew it intellectually, but i I didn't think of it at the time like, oh, I'm going to eat this because it's going to make me feel less pain.
00:06:36
chrisyzen
I was like, I'm craving this. And I really think this sort of, we do have this innate intelligence that we do crave certain foods if we are potentially deficient in something that that food is going to replete. um For example, I heard stories like my dad was telling me when he was in the military, there there was this guy and they would be playing cards at the table in the evening, whatever.
00:07:02
chrisyzen
And this guy would like every once in a while just kind of turn to the wall and just li lick the wall, just kind of run his tongue like up the wall multiple times during a card game. And I think it's because that the the gypsum or whatever, but you know they they kind of plaster the walls with, that's probably got like lime, which is I think calcium or calcium carbonate. There's something, there's something calcium or some minerals in in it that the person was likely craving. The body knew that they would get it, right? And it's also like some kids that eat ah dirt and sand, they're probably trying to acquire minerals. Had that of kids in my family when they were visiting us.
00:07:54
chrisyzen
we'd be at the beach and one of the kids would be eating sand and we're like the how you doing bro but it kind of makes sense right so but isn't that amazing how the body kind of knows that and that's that's what i was kind of getting at if now that i'm i'm i'm looking at the anti-inflammatory effects of curcumin or turmeric which you know curcumin being one of the kind of the main sort of ah chemicals in there that's been most studied so it has direct it hasn't Cox Cox and locks
00:08:32
chrisyzen
ah Inhibition properties right so Cox cyclooxygenase 2 it's an enzyme that produces prostaglandins which are key mediators of inflammation and lux is Similarly involved in inflammation it converts arachidonic Arachidonic acid into leukotrienes right these are potent inflammatory mediators, so I can see why people out there are are taking curcumin or turmeric or whatever um but here's the thing here's the thing i i'm i'll be quite honest i i haven't looked at all of the mechanisms of of curcumin it does look like there's quite a lot but my if you if you've actually read my book how to actually live longer volume one my
The Complexity of Herbs and Supplements
00:09:28
chrisyzen
Sort of model modus operandi now is when something gets big in the mainstream or even in in terms of the the smaller space of the health sphere but it when it becomes big even in that sort of relatively smaller ecosystem.
00:09:47
chrisyzen
I am immediately my ears prick up and I'm like okay hold on could this be yet another sort of glorified load of load of BS right because ah if you've read the book you understand why why so many things are backwards in the in the health space, keto, low carb, carnivore, not good long term, eating a lot of fiber, you know, and that's another one, fish oil, that's another one that I've kind of discussed already and will more in the future. So I'm super suspicious of
00:10:26
chrisyzen
Curcumin not that again not that it doesn't have these Cox and Lox inhibition properties but there are other ah at least more targeted ways to inhibit these enzymes that we don't have to use such a shotgun approach like something with these these many properties because if you actually look into it Curcumin does have a lot of other properties. So it has it inhibits the NF kappa beta pathway. That's another infl inflammation regulating pathway. um But it also downregulates certain pro-inflammatory cytokines like IL-1 beta.
00:11:10
chrisyzen
interleukin that's in IO is interleukin interleukin six IO six TNF alpha and The thing is when you see that when it inhibits or down regulates inflammatory Things molecules cytokines, whatever the case may be we have to really here is where We have to be more discerning and again, I'll be honest. I haven't delved deeply into it, but it could be inhibiting these pathways or down regulating these pro-inflammatory cytokines, not because it's such an amazing ah compound, but because it's suppressing the immune system. This is what a lot of herbs and a lot of ah potentially a lot of things that have may have an anti-inflammatory effect have this immune suppressive effect like fish oil, right like omega-3s. So this is where we have to be careful.
00:12:07
chrisyzen
So the problem with a lot of herbs out there is they can have positive effects but at the same time they can have negative effects. So you might feel a positive effect in terms of let's say you might feel less inflammation less pain like this analgesic effect but that can allow you into a false sense of security. Another example is fish oil or cortisol even just cortisol in in the form of a glucocorticoid drug that they give to people with eczema or ah psoriasis or whatever other inflammatory condition, or arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis. There's hundreds hundreds of uses for these, but what are they? They're immunosuppressive medications. So all the glucocorticoids that are cortisol mimicking chemicals like hydrocortisone, dexamethasone and stuff like that.
00:13:04
chrisyzen
So, yeah, in in the immediate term and the the very short term, it does show a positive effect. Right. But what's happening in the background while the immune system is being suppressed? And we know with with like a cortisol mimicking chemical, the side effects are horrific. Up to and including diabetes and ah
00:13:33
chrisyzen
osteoporosis and whatever else right um so this is this is where I'm wary of things that can have so many properties because think about it a plant compound or rather ah ah an extract from a plant or just the the bark of a plant or whatever the leaves how many chemicals are in there how many of so we can take a couple and isolate them and study them and this has this effect that has that effect but do we know what the rest of them are doing whereas yeah sure vitamins and minerals have a lot of effects but they are they are something that the body
00:14:17
chrisyzen
needs it recognizes sometimes it they're already being manufactured they can be manufactured by the body just not in in enough of a quantity like it's a certain and mean like certain amino acids they like for example glyc glycine excuse me glycine is an amino acid that we can produce but we don't produce enough of and that so but when you add that it's in food but you can add it as a supplement and when you add that as a supplement the body recognizes it as something it can produce so now it has more of it so now it can continue producing it but it can also not produce it if it has enough already so then what it can do is it can divert that energy those nutrients and resources that it it was going to use to produce the glycine it might divert them somewhere else
00:15:11
chrisyzen
Right? You understand the kind of the rationale. Whereas with a herb, a lot of what the herb is doing, its yes, it could have chemicals that mimic things in the body. They can mimic certain chemicals. It can inhibit certain enzymes. It can upregulate certain enzymes. um But the the effects are much more kind of um they they're very variable person to person and then product to product and then even if you have for example um ah ah that last year or maybe the year before i was experimenting with um some herbs here from amazon that were kind of they were a bit harder to find in other places so i was ah kind of experimenting with them and they were extracts right they were the extract of like certain herbs like
00:16:06
chrisyzen
maca and tribulus, terrestris. So I was kind of experimenting with these so somewhat testosterone boosting or sex hormone boosting, libido boosting type ah herbs. And to be quite honest with you, I actually felt like those freaking things were actually reducing my libido. there were If anything, they were like reducing my ah kind of and androgenic sort of tone.
00:16:35
chrisyzen
And then i then I learned that how you extract that extract matters. If it's a water-based extract, if it's an alcohol-based extract, it can it can actually have different properties, like it could be more estrogenic or less estrogenic, depending on depending on the the extraction method. So this is again another, there's so much variability with with the herbs. And then some some folks will report, oh, I do amazing with turmeric or curcumin extract or ah whatever. um And then other guys or or other folks will will um they'll report that it just tanks their they're just testosterone and just lowers their libido, right?
00:17:31
chrisyzen
So it's not like I'm saying don't take any herbs and I still use some herbs and I do recommend a few products to my clients but very strategically with very specific purposes where as I find a lot of folks when we start working together and we're looking at ah the these supplements I'm like okay do you know why you're taking this?
00:17:52
chrisyzen
oh you know this such and such said it's good and oh this website i like these guys are cool uh so i got it from them and and they they will give you like a lot of mechanisms on on the websites but the thing is you're sometimes you if you have like six eight things in in a capsule and that capsule is 800 milligrams you know you might be getting like two three hundred milligrams of one and then tiny amounts of the other stuff which might not actually make a ah dent, right? It might not make any dent in terms of whatever effects. So there's there's so many things to kind of consider. the There's the fact that yeah certain certain compounds in certain herbs can be sort of
00:18:38
chrisyzen
ah they can activate androgen receptors or progester progesterone receptors, they can have this prowe ah pro pro positive hormonal sort of effects but at the same time there's a lot of things that are like phytoestrogens so they can be like this ah estrogen receptor activating compounds which it seems on paper like that's a good thing but yeah okay so if if you have those in the body, the body might down regulate its own endogenous production of estrogen. And then if those were weaker estrogens, then your endogenous estrogen in your estrogenic tone might improve. But what are the chances that you're going to hit the jackpot with those perfect, that perfect scenario, right?
Personalized Supplement Strategies
00:19:28
chrisyzen
Whereas amino acids, vitamins and minerals and stuff like that,
00:19:34
chrisyzen
that the body produces or at least recognizes because they're essential nutrients. We have a much more sort of, it's like I'm trying to think of ah of an analogy. One is like exactly like a shotgun approach.
00:19:47
chrisyzen
and then the other one is like you're a sniper and you're like okay we're gonna boom we're gonna target this we're gonna upregulate detoxification and it works here we're gonna you know reduce inflammation through this pathway here we're gonna improve um you know we're gonna protect the potent saturated fats from oxidation or peroxidation so they're very targeted approach as opposed to let me take this mix of 12 herbs and then take five different products that have altogether maybe 40 different ingredients but you're getting like a few milligrams or a couple hundred milligrams of of these things and they're not actually making a dent and potentially what they could be doing especially if there's some gut dysfunction what they could be doing is they could be
00:20:32
chrisyzen
triggering the immune system and you won't know and even if we do the best food reactivity test right we can do the the food reactivity test that we run with my clients they take your blood and they expose your blood to the foods and certain chemicals in the food supply so you know what's your most reactive what's your immune system reacting to the most at this moment in time but they don't test for herb well they do test for condiment herbs so you'll know if like rosemary is is triggering your immune system super hard or
00:21:11
chrisyzen
certain other things, but they don't taste these other obscure things like whatever, curbs, maca, and amla, and whatever the heck, you know? So yeah, it's it's it's it's also it's also very hard when you're taking something that has four, five, six different ingredients, right? It's very hard to take that and then um sort of pinpoint what's what's moving the needle for you. Okay, you might feel good. But generally, the the placebo effect we know can account for some 40% of the the benefits of ah whatever intervention that may be. but So it could be placebo. But then if it's truly that it's making you feel better, how do you know which of those things is doing the thing? you know it It has to be something has to be moving the needle and other things are probably benign or or maybe
00:22:07
chrisyzen
have a negative effect, but it's the the active the most active ingredient that's doing the beneficial thing, that's probably outweighing the other things. So you can you see how it gets super convo convoluted and complicated? Whereas the way we we start supplementation with my clients is we start one thing at a time.
00:22:32
chrisyzen
And then we wait like two, three, four days. And we allow we allow that process to kind of unfold. And it all depends on the person, how quickly or slowly they want to do things. But this allows to pin, if you start feeling worse, could it be you're reacting to the ingredient of the supplement or or an excipient? This stuff I try to get clients is obviously the the cleanest stuff.
00:23:01
chrisyzen
and for the cheapest price ah ideally but sometimes sometimes we have to make a trade-off and that's rare but it does it does happen um but even something like rice flour or even the the the the capsule for some people can cause issues. It happens very rarely, but at least when we do this, we know that's the thing. But if it's something that's stimulating the detoxification system and they feel worse, it could be that they're detoxing something because they're they don't have a higher capacity for detoxification. So you have to also factor that in, right? But when you're taking multiple things in in a capsule or two, three capsules sort of thing,
00:23:45
chrisyzen
how will you know if you feel worse maybe it's just one thing making you feel worse maybe the other things were beneficial but that was outweighing them so this is why i i normally tell people let's just pause all of these you know more complicated things from from the program things like with six ingredients and stuff like that let's pause those let's get to a baseline begin again introducing things one by one and then We can, we can add them back in, cycle them back. in And then that's the other thing about it is ah some, some folks tell me, ah oh you know, I've been taking this for two years and it's like an adaptogen, for example, like ginseng or whatever, ashwagandha, stuff like that. And the thing about those is you kind of, you need to cycle them on and off, you know, you can't be taking herbs every day for like four months and years at a time.
00:24:43
chrisyzen
You really need to cycle on and off. This is something you you learn with your own experimentation. I can guy give guidance on these things, but people know best what you know by experimentation and and learning and trying things out, right? So that's another thing. and keep in mind a lot of herbs that a lot of things like that they tell you this is good for detoxification like one thing that kind of irks me and in fact let me just let me just quickly check before I even open my mouth on this subject yeah so milk thistle I just brought that up just say I asked chat GPT what are the mechanisms so
Detox Supplements and Misconceptions
00:25:25
chrisyzen
here is this right so there's a lot of things look it again it could be that it has some beneficial sort of properties due to the the structure of certain compounds right but here's what it says right it says what is it so it says
00:25:48
chrisyzen
it okay regeneration of liver cells so apparently it stimulates protein synthesis and promotes the regeneration of liver cells now if true that is epic again I'm perfectly honest I haven't looked into it super deep to understand all the mechanisms but for example I'll give you another mechanism here that was the first right so it says Glutathione restoration, so silymarin, which is the one of the sort of the main compounds in in milk thistle that is apparently so good for liver protective anti detoxic or-detoxification properties, right? So when it says, glutathione restoration, silymarin increases the levels of glutathione, a major antioxidant in the liver enhancing its ability to detoxify harmful substances.
00:26:41
chrisyzen
Right. So the question, and then here's a modulation of enzyme activity. Silymarin also modulates the activity of cytochrome P450 enzymes, which are involved in the metabolism of various toxins and drugs. By doing so, it reduces the formation of toxic metabolites that can damage liver cells. So this is again, another example. So in both of these cases, how is it, how is it actually restoring glutathione or increasing glutathione levels? so How is it?
00:27:12
chrisyzen
ah modulating the P450 enzyme family. ah How is it modulating their activity? Well, because the many, I'm not saying all, but many plant compounds, because they're toxins, right, they they upregulate our detoxification enzymes like cytochrome P450 or they increase gluteal thion levels as a response to the fact that this thing is toxic, right? So toxin comes in, ah body and liver are like, okay, there's toxins, we need to upregulate our enzymes. So that's not exactly super magical in terms of a mechanism, right? Because we are, here's the thing, we are already
00:27:59
chrisyzen
super upregulated in terms of our detoxification capacities because you're constantly breathing in and touching plastics and breathing in ah ah you know car exhausts and things at home like phthalates,
00:28:16
chrisyzen
low molecular weight phthalates and various solvents from cleaning products. and it i mean All the flame retardants in the couch, the car seat, you're constantly exposed to small amounts of toxins but we're talking about hundreds of exposures on a daily basis like literally hundreds of exposures if you factor in the chair you're sitting in and you know potentially you're you know you're touching your the wheel of your car that might not be like leather you know there's a lot of different ways you can breathe in ah like when you shower through the skin so you're constantly
00:28:59
chrisyzen
somewhat upregulated in terms of your detoxification capacities. So why the hell, I ask people, why the hell would we want to add more toxins to upregulate the freaking detoxification capacity that's already, probably for most people, greatly overtaxed?
00:29:21
chrisyzen
So we should, we we're like, we're done upregulating here folks. Let's move on to the, to the supporting the detoxification. So a lot of these herbs, again, I'm not saying I know, I understand all of the, um, so look here. So apparently silimarian also inhibits the activity of enzymes involved in the inflammatory process, like the Cox and the Lox mentioned above that turmeric and curcumin inhibit.
00:29:50
chrisyzen
So it has an anti-inflammatory effect. So again, I'm not saying they only have bad ah sort of
00:29:59
chrisyzen
properties absolutely not right saying that there's a lot of good properties in herbs but there's so many each herb having hundreds of chemicals that's just really kind of playing russian roulette a little bit now i'll just go back for a second to the to the thing about curcumin so it says let's see
00:30:28
chrisyzen
it says that it has anti-cancer mechanisms now this is again again i admit i haven't looked into the studies behind this so i'm a little bit going out on the limb but it says curcumin induces programmed cell death or apoptosis in cancer cells by activating key proteins like gas basis p53 this makes it harder for cancer cancer cells to evade death now here's the thing is it toxic or rather does it cause the death of only only counter cells or does it kill everything in freaking sight that's that's what we have to understand because i think this is where a lot of these like for example so furofane that i don't think we should be
The Mechanisms and Risks of Herbs
00:31:15
chrisyzen
taking supplements with sulforaphane right because another mechanism so curcumin inhibits cancer cell proliferation by blocking various growth signals right so is that only cancer cells or is it inhibiting the cell proliferation in general and that's the other thing you have to remember if you look at the best herbs for um Cleansing the gut right antimicrobial antieat anti anti parasitic a lot of them are
00:31:50
chrisyzen
herbs, you know, that why are they good antimicrobials? Because they kill those things in the gut, right? So they are antibiotic in many, in they have a lot of antibiotic mechanisms, but oregano, oil, ah olive leaf extract, berberine,
00:32:19
chrisyzen
right so they have these they're they're killing life in your gut right which if your gut is there's a lot of sort of inflammatory bacteria that are proliferating that's a good thing right but doesn't that kind of you know if we put two and two together these things are toxic right so we can use them as medicines the herbs to kill things and inhibit enzymes that are causing inflammation and stuff but doesn't that make sense that we have to use these things in a targeted way for specific purposes and a lot of the time those purposes are to kill things in our gut
00:33:07
chrisyzen
or to inhibit enzymes but and think about it when you're inhibiting an enzyme you're interfering with it in some way it could be by destroying the enzyme by blocking the enzyme you know there's there's a few different mechanisms of how an enzyme can be um can be inhibited but in inhibiting an enzyme that is going against the the workings of the body. It just so happens that in the case of an anti-inflammatory like curcumin, inhibiting Cox and Lox enzymes, that is beneficial.
00:33:47
chrisyzen
But what other, here's the the question, is what other enzymes are getting blocked and inhibited that are actually beneficial that could be again they could be immune system related processes and enzymes and and and and molecules that are getting damaged and this again this is why potentially some of these things have an anti-inflammatory effect because they could be
00:34:19
chrisyzen
harming immune cells that create that inflammation again that's kind of the what I wanted to say there really so I wouldn't go but basically I to summarize what I would say is don't go too crazy with the herbs Take one herb, understand the herb, read about it, read some articles, read some some mechanisms and stuff like that. And then experiment with it on its own, figure out is it actually beneficial, right? And then try something else and ah don't don't rely on that herb forever because again, if it's if it's inhibiting enzymes and stuff like that, do we want that to happen?
00:35:06
chrisyzen
For a very long time again with the Cox and the locks because we have so many Omega sixes in the diet and in our body Maybe inhibiting them on a on a chronic basis is Probably a good idea at least while while we get these polyunsaturated fats out of our body But for these other things Who knows you know who knows and then again?
00:35:30
chrisyzen
the detoxification stuff from like things like um cabbage and cruciferous vegetables and broccoli and bollocks that's again that upregulate a lot of those compounds they're upregulator detoxification capacities because they're toxic right so this is where we went from you eat it a couple of times a week to once a day to now people are like taking broccoli extract and so far of fame and whatever other stuff directly and this is going super extreme and this is again why when stuff like that happens your ears have to sort of prick up is everybody talking about oh cumin is so amazing because we went from turmeric
00:36:19
chrisyzen
to curcumin, then it's like this curcumin lipid matrix, phospholipid delivery system with, now with bioperine and all the the sort of the black pepper thing that increases intestinal permeability. So to it increases absorption, right? So we've gone through that. What are we going to, what's freaking next? Are we going to be injecting a super critical extract of curcumin into our directly into our eyeballs and stuff like i mean how far do we have to take it why and again these are remember if these things are beneficial because they're they're poisons and it's a hormetic effect like again like cruciferous vegetables you
00:37:07
chrisyzen
the the hermetic effect you need a tiny sort of minor stressor to induce that hermetic effect if you're doing that every day if you're supplementing with that hermetic supplement or whatever polyphenols or whatever it is if you're doing that every single day that's not a hormetic effect really at that point that's just a stressor and then you're dealing with another stressor in your already dozens of stressors uh in terms of your stress bucket so why add more stressors in your stress bucket when you're already stressed you should be figuring out how to get them the hell out of the bucket how to support your body to deal with the stressors of the toxins rather than adding more toxins
00:37:49
chrisyzen
right so a lot of these herbs they also they also accumulate toxic metals they're hyper accumulator some of them right ah so you really have to be careful in terms of sourcing in terms of testing like quality certificates and stuff like that so really i wouldn't just get one product with eight things get one thing try one thing for a while maybe ashwagand is a decent one you know the ksm66 extract one you know we were taking that for years with my wife but i stopped i stopped that one as well you know and she she kind of stopped well i stopped buying it so she stopped it as well there's we had a few bottles that she was only using um but we do i just have better ways for all of the things that these things do for the most part
Rethinking Supplement Use
00:38:40
chrisyzen
in terms of reducing stress, cortisol, ah ah the adaptogenic effects, recovery, um even or even these um all of these herbs that are like nootropics like Bacopa, Monere, and and a few other things. We can get the same and or better effects with things that the body recognizes already as its own. And that's kind of that's that's where I think the money is at. you know That's where I think the best benefits and and things you can do on a regular basis without your body sort of doing weird stuff down regulating down down regulating things. and
00:39:22
chrisyzen
um Potentially just in balancing certain things, you know So yeah, hope you hope you now understand why I'm not such a big fan of herbs anymore I used like I the I used to oh my god because we have these yeah we have these Sort of health stores nearby here. So I would go in back in back like a couple of years ago and and earlier and even like five six years ago I'd go in and I'd like get oh let me get this organic also I'll get amla and jin singh and Siberian jin singh and tributus terrestris and ah whatever maka and I can't even remember half of the things
00:40:08
chrisyzen
that i would buy and then i would like make these disgusting potions with like water and like five six different herbs and like ground up roots and we'd drink that and it's oh it was disgusting and then you're like what the hell what is even happening you know is what is even happening when we do that you know i wonder and i was taking huge amounts of these things so It's crazy. yeah Like, ah I think we all go through these phases. I'm just trying to save you time and money and and need this complication in your life, you know? So, yeah, I mean, I just just kind of remembering, oh my God, how much how much stuff I would take and like powders and things I would mix up in the morning. These drinks would be drinkinging drinking them with my wife like once, ah two or three times a day.
00:40:59
chrisyzen
and um the only reason we kind of stopped was it it was such a such a load of sort of and some of them are disgusting some of them are disgusting tasting powders as well so this was like back in like 2018 2019 for the most part but then later on i would still take powders and she would kind of still muscle them in with a few things but eventually she got pregnant in 2021 and um and then she just stopped drinking powders so then i kind of switched over i bought some uh some i started buying like the amino acid stuff in
Incorporating Supplements into Diet
00:41:41
chrisyzen
in capsule form because she wouldn't drink the powders there she found them repulsive and then i switched over as well because they were so much more convenient and then over time we just kind of grew out of the habit and then yeah definitely don't take as many powders now but this is this is where This is where the, if you if you get really good at this, the the supplementation stuff, this is really where where it's at. you know Getting things, single ingredients, no capsules. So there's not none of these kind of new new vegetarian capsules that are kind of potentially can be iun immunogenic. um
00:42:20
chrisyzen
So that's that's really, if if you're super hardcore and and you know dialed in, that's where it's at. you know
00:42:29
chrisyzen
single ingredient powders, super high quality, you know, 99.9%. And then you just, the key, and this is where I've kind of integrated this more into my life, is the key is to to just have strategic ways to to incorporate them into your food or into your drinks along the day, like in my my morning coffees, like this mega awesome powerhouse of awesome nutrition, you know.
00:42:57
chrisyzen
and but it the it changes like depending on what I have um at home but um that's kind of I think it's super key because as as much as I try to find caps because now my wife doesn't she just doesn't mix powders anymore and I'm trying to get her to take certain amino acids enough of you know for detoxification for eye health heart health for what else for the neurotransmitter balance and she just would she just won't mix them on a daily basis i'm I'm finding stuff that is super clean in terms of just capsule no other ingredients and it's hard you know
00:43:38
chrisyzen
And then sometimes you have to make a trade-off, there has to be a little bit of something in there, to to so otherwise the the product will, the the powder will cake up, but then it's obviously not really good for business. So, and then you're paying five X the price to get it in capsule form. So if you can afford to pay five X the price for a product for the convenience to be able to take it with you, or when you're out of the house,
00:44:06
chrisyzen
or in the morning when you're in a rush or in the evening, that's fine. you know i think it's I really think it's worth it. This is probably the best investment other than your food. and a good practitioner or a coach, whatever, investing in in supplements probably should be the next thing, honest to God. you know I really think this is super, super important because if you've ever tracked your diet for a week, you'll know how hard it is to actually even hit the RDAs. Remember, the RDAs are to keep a prisoner alive right so they don't kill over.
Conclusion and Consultation Invitation
00:44:43
chrisyzen
to keep the factory worker from you know collapsing on the factory floor that's what these RDA's are made for they're not for optimal health and the it's in spite of that most people are barely even meeting their RDA's on a consistent basis so if you don't supplement you know you're in trouble basically um but that the key is not to just ram a bunch of random herbs in you because this one is good and that one is good and that one is a traditional remedy for whatever food order or you know Ichibod God knows you have to have a targeted approach and that takes
00:45:26
chrisyzen
time to learn dedication and going down a lot of rabbit holes so if you want to save yourself that time you can always hit me up go and go on the website and if you like what you see there take the next step and then we can potentially meet meet and greet to see where you're at see if you have any health challenges goals and i can explain how i can help you achieve them so Hope you got value out of this episode. Bit of a ramble at the end of the day, but I thought have so much I have so many new tropics coursing through my blood. It would be a shame to just pee them out without recording. I've already recorded like maybe six, seven mini videos today, during the day.
00:46:14
chrisyzen
That's why I'm a bit worn out and whatever else we did. But um it's it's nice to take advantage because, you know, new trophies can get expensive. So thought i I thought I'd ah get it all out while I still have any energy left. So thanks for sticking to the end of the episode. If you did, it means you are truly truly a health seeker or maybe you just are too far from your phone to switch to something else in which case I got you right where I need you just kidding thanks thanks tuning in and I'll see you on the next episode Christian Ordonov out