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Episode 59 - Xmas 2020 Special
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This week on the premier comedy roller coaster podcast; it's Christmas so Ben and Zach talk about Christmases past and watch an old video which is available here: https://youtu.be/RXWFVaUblx0
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00:01:08
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Hey man, it's community. We got a nice little community here built up. And, uh, yeah, it's behind the paywall, but a buck a month. We think almost anyone can handle that, right? Ben? Oh yeah. You can't even get like a McChicken unless you like live in a state with no sales tax. So, so why not throw it our way? Throw us literally a bone at patreon.com slash your favorite coaster sucks.
Santa Skit and Humor
00:01:39
Speaker
Ho, ho, ho! Well, look at this stack of letters from all the children around the world. That's right, Santa. But we've got a couple here that are going to need your direct attention. Well, I think we've got enough play stations to go around. It's not that. Okay, go ahead and read the letter to me. Okay, so it says, Dear Santa,
00:02:07
Speaker
This year has been really rough for everybody, but especially me. It was fine enough, but then I went to Kentucky Kingdom, and I only got out of line for a second to take a picture. And the security guard was an asshole, so I called him that. Then he escorted me out of the park. Anyway, Santa, I just want Kentucky Kingdom to close and never come back.
00:02:37
Speaker
Ooh, that's really what someone wrote to Santa? And it's signed, Cancel Kentucky Kingdom. Cancel is spelled with a K and he abbreviated it. All right. Well, let's put him on the naughty list and give him a season pass to Mount Olympus. All right. Well, we've got another one here. That's a little, um, rough around the edges. Santa doesn't judge.
00:03:07
Speaker
Well, actually, that's all I do. I was gonna say. I'm also the only employer within a 5,000 mile radius, so I'd watch the criticism. Whatever, you fat, drunk piece of shit. Ho, ho, ho. I'll destroy you like secularism. Calm down before you get half hard and Mrs. Claus has to have her annual serving of milk and cookies. Just read the fucking letter.
00:03:35
Speaker
So this one comes from Ohio Valley Correctional Facility. Ho ho ho naughty list. Before that one to Chris Hanson. Will do. So this next one is written on the back of a sticker that has a picture of young you. Interesting. What does it say? This community is so toxic.
00:04:01
Speaker
Okay, let's get some new locks and give that sticker to the security elves. Alright, so this next one was addressed to Mormon Santa.
Christmas Reflections and Childhood Memories
00:04:10
Speaker
Oh boy. Yeah, so it says, Dear Santa, she could have stopped it too. That's very naughty. Send him one of those ugly t-shirts.
00:04:24
Speaker
Welcome to the worst roller coaster podcast on the internet. Now let's join Ben and Zach as they tell you why your favorite coaster sucks. I'm Zach and Merry Christmas. I'm Ben and happy holidays. Don't be coming up here and making an anti Christmas on Christmas. Yo.
00:04:51
Speaker
It's, it's X mess. That's right. It is X mess and it, uh, happy merry holiday to you if you celebrate it. And if not, then it's just another December 25th to you. Hopefully, uh, you are with your family. If you are doing that in a safe matter, otherwise, um,
00:05:17
Speaker
Hopefully you're just enjoying your time alone in your apartment or home or wherever you may be. Yeah, hopefully you got a nice gift either for yourself or from a loved one. You know, I hope I did. We're recording this well in advance, so I hope I got a nice gift. I hope you got a nice gift too, Ben. I hope so. I got to wait a little bit. Have you made a list? I do have a list, yeah. I still give a list to my mom.
00:05:44
Speaker
Yeah, my mom asked for a list still, so. Which is now just like a bunch of really long like Amazon links. Yeah, I try to think of like everything that I want that's under 50 bucks.
00:06:00
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. That's like I don't I feel weird asking for like, you know, it's not like being a kid and be like, I want an iPod touch. It's like, well, there's these like socks I really want and there's like phone charger I want. And yeah, it's kind of just like a bunch
Roller Coaster News and Speculations
00:06:18
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of things that I'm too lazy to buy myself. That's that's the way Christmas is an adult pretty much, right?
00:06:27
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, and socks are a good gift. They are. Yeah. Use those shit up. Them shits up. I don't know. Fucking. Holy shit, it's Christmas. Yeah. And it's 2020 and the year's getting a little better.
00:06:43
Speaker
I mean, in some ways, not in others. But let's let's let's have a little fun with this episode, Ben. We are recording this the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. So we have no idea what the hell is going to happen in the next month. It's going to be exactly a month from now, pretty much when this episode drops. So let's have a little fun and make some guesses. I'm going to guess. I don't know. Never mind. This is going to get dark.
00:07:12
Speaker
Well, how about this? Let's just make it so wide out there. Like, I don't know, like some very critical information about QAnon gets leaked. Oh, QAnon Christmas. I was going to say the death toll from Covid continues to rise. I mean, yeah, that's that's at least, you know, expected, I guess, unfortunately. Yes, very unfortunately. Well, let's not focus on
Elitch Gardens Experience
00:07:40
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that. It's fucking Christmas.
00:07:42
Speaker
A lot of this is let's pretend it's like 1999 and we're coaster kids.
00:07:48
Speaker
That's a good idea. Taking it back, taking it back to simpler Christmasy times. I am actually. Yeah. Well, what? Yeah. Well, we're like, OK, so in the late 90s, early 2000s, if you were a coaster kid and the Internet wasn't really a thing, I mean, what were the best coaster gifts you got as a child? Well, automatically, I'm going to say season pass.
00:08:14
Speaker
Oh, you actually got season passes. I did several years. My my folks got me season passes for Christmas. It was a great gift and also a couple of years. They got me an ace membership and registered me for no coaster con.
00:08:31
Speaker
Oh shit, yeah, that's pretty good. That's nowhere near what I got. Well, did you ask for shit like that?
Nostalgic Roller Coaster Videos
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Because I like specifically asked for that shit. Well, I live too far away from the park, so like a season pass wasn't really an option, but I did ask for all of the roller coaster tycoon stuff, like so the games.
00:08:54
Speaker
Um, that's pretty good. I remember getting, I remember getting like ultimate ride that, um, wait, was ultimate ride that Disney imagineer that was program that was kind of like no limits. It was like the 3d, it had like 3d coasters and there was space themes and mind themes and stuff like that. Uh, I don't know. Maybe.
00:09:17
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I don't
00:09:35
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40 coaster types Back in like 2005 which is pretty cool. So you could do suspended coasters 40 coasters togo stand-ups It had like every coaster type possible, but other than that like I didn't really get much coaster shit unfortunately
00:09:52
Speaker
Damn, that's not a very costary Christmas. Well, um, we can talk about a couple things that are Christmas gifts that we just found out about as of recording. I know when we drop this, this won't be brand new shit, but we found out some fucking news today, right, Ben? Did you hear about this shit? Uh, I don't, I don't think so. What? Uh, a couple things. First of all, here's the, here's a fucking big one. Are you ready for, are you sitting down right now?
00:10:21
Speaker
I'm laying down. Okay. All right. Then you're ready for this. Q Mera coming to Indiana beach next year. Oh yes. Yes. I did find that out. That's cool and alarming and awesome.
00:10:37
Speaker
Well, I mean, I expect that it'll be running with brakes. Yeah. I wonder, I wonder who they're going to get to make those. Like, I wonder what company is able to just manufacture Schwartzkopf compatible brakes like that unless they're getting new trains, which could be possible. Oh, man. What if they get those those shitty premier trains? Oh, God, I hope not. But I guess it's possible.
00:11:05
Speaker
because then they're gonna have to reprofile a lot of the track, I think. Because from what I understand, when they added the Premier trains to Thriller slash Texas Tornado slash Zonga, the trains couldn't maneuver parts of the track, I think, so they had to modify it, but I could be wrong on that.
00:11:24
Speaker
I know that only ran for like one year and it was not even open the whole year. Yeah. Right. I, I don't know. I think the short scoffer just best if you don't fuck with them, but you know, leave the brakes on. That's a good idea. Yeah. Um, so hopefully, you know, maybe it'll have a reduced train or something. I don't know. Either way, I'm heading over to fucking Indiana beach next year. I'm stoked for that.
00:11:48
Speaker
Yeah, that's going to be pretty cool. I mean, I'm, I'm actually really surprised they did that to be honest. I, although who knows it is Indiana beach, so it could, they could like buy it and then never actually install it or open it. But hopefully, I mean, I, I'm, I would love for it to open. That'd be fucking crazy.
00:12:08
Speaker
Yeah, that would I mean, they they say based off of their press release, it'll be ready, ready by summer 2021. So. OK. I know where it's going to go. I don't. I don't think the press release I found says anything about it or the news article. Oh, yeah. The last line says neither ride has an official name or an exact location within the park as officials continue to work out those details. Gotcha. All right.
00:12:37
Speaker
Uh, they don't have that galaxy anymore, right? No. So that'd be a good replacement for it. And now they'll have fucking two short scoffs, which is dope. Yeah. Well, actually that's a good sign. That's right. Because then they can, they could probably maintain it or they have a team that can maintain it. Then if they can do tiger or Tigger or whatever. And that's been running there for years. So I imagine, you know, if anyone can handle a short scuff at this point, it's people that have maintained a short scuff like you were saying.
00:13:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and hopefully it doesn't kill anybody. I mean, I mean, I think it's I think as long as you run it within the like the manufacturer limits, it's probably okay. But I feel like roller coasters are like when they have accidents kind of like when airlines have accidents, they get a lot safer, you know. Yeah. Well, people did say that about Mindbender after that incident. But I but Mexico is a different story.
00:13:36
Speaker
Yeah, but it's coming to the States, so it's got to pass different safety standards here, you know? Yeah, yeah. I was actually surprised, she's really surprised that nobody posted in the Indiana Beach Facebook discussion that nobody posted a link to the accident. I was like, I was kind of like in like a funny way, I was hoping somebody would like post a link to it.
00:14:04
Speaker
and see if they would delete it. But people did. People did mention it, though. So thankfully it'll be a month before this goes live because I don't want to give anybody ideas. Hey, we heard about it on your favorite coaster. Oh, fuck. Well, there was some other good news, you know, Christmasy. So Christmas presents. There's other good news. Luna Park in Australia announced they're getting the first single rail Intamin coaster.
00:14:33
Speaker
Yeah, that's, that's good that Intamin's getting some business. It was almost like that, like kind of like when we were talking to Jerry about how they were releasing all those ideas as like, it's kind of a sign that they're running out of projects. So it's good to see that they're, they're going to stay a little busy and the layout looks okay. I don't, it'll be, it's kind of weird to see a, a non RMC layout for that kind of coaster, but
00:15:02
Speaker
Yeah, no, it is. It's an interesting layout, but I think it looks like it's going to be a good fit for the park. And from what I understand about the park, that's a good, a really good thing, like a very important thing. Right. Yeah. So, you know, that's, it's great. I hope I can make it over to Australia because they got a couple of coasters open and next year that look fantastic.
00:15:30
Speaker
Yeah. The, uh, the Mac or the mock coaster. And then, uh, they have that steel hog clone with the four cross trains. Yeah. And also that gravity group. Wait, what? Which one is the gravity group opening in Australia next year? Oh shit. I didn't know that. Oh fuck. Really? Let me see if I can find it on our CDB real quick. Oh man. Are they under the gravity group?
00:16:01
Speaker
Oh, SeaWorld. Okay. Yeah. Nice. Leviathan. Holy shit. I just went to Coaster Force. I thought I was following a link. It looks so different than what I remember. Well, what Coaster Force? Well, the forums. Oh yeah. Well, it's been how long since you went on there? Uh, like 15 years. Yeah.
00:16:29
Speaker
Well, yeah, that's the, I mean, it's, it's definitely going to be a slow season, but that's cool that, uh, there's at least stuff going in. It honestly would be kind of funny though, to see a, um, a Raptor go into, like if it was a Raptor being built in Australia and then everybody goes travels to Australia and then they just like talk it up and they're like, it's the greatest thing ever. I could see that happening.
00:16:58
Speaker
Because it's in Australia. Right, you haven't been there, so it's amazing, obviously.
00:17:05
Speaker
You can't tell from the pictures, but the drop is more intense than the other Raptors. I don't know if this was intentional, but it makes a huge difference if you're in the back row. The airtime is like incredible. It's like untouchable. Like nothing in the States is like it. It's actually because of the like hemisphere differences and how the water drains the opposite way. Right. It actually makes the airtime better.
00:17:35
Speaker
Like summer is winter, airtime is better. Speaking of water draining, do you think those toilet bowl slides go the other direction? Probably. Actually, okay, you know what though, someone told me that's not true. Like I've heard equal evidence that it's true and not true and now I'm like not sure what to believe.
00:17:59
Speaker
I mean, the only way to know for sure is to go, I guess, but you could also just like check a YouTube video. I'm sure there's a video of an Australian person flushing their toilets. Does water really flush different and different hemispheres? Google says one can find both counterclockwise and clockwise flowing drains in both hemispheres. Some people would like you to believe
00:18:28
Speaker
the water down the drain bathtubs don't believe them. Oh, I guess water flows both directions. Okay. And both hemispheres. All right. Well, we settled the, uh, the age old debate here. Simpsons were a little incorrect.
00:18:49
Speaker
Well, I mean what, it was the nineties. We'll give them a break. It might be like dollar reviews or whatever. Plus it might be like it's most common. I don't know. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Time is better. So that was some Christmasy coaster news. I guess that was some gifts to the coaster community.
00:19:20
Speaker
Yeah, it's, um, what else is, I'm trying to think what else is going in the U S for next year? Cause velocity coaster is for 2021. Yeah. I hear in quasi stunt pilot, uh, all the Bush garden stuff. Yeah. Icebreaker Pantheon. Um,
00:19:42
Speaker
Jersey Devil. Oh, oh, wait a minute. Seventeen rides being removed for six flags. What do you think they're going to be? I think it was 15. But yeah, I could be wrong. But let's see. I don't know. Any like old hoose flat rides, I think, are probably doomed.
00:20:08
Speaker
You know, which I, which sucks cause I love those. Yeah. I was, I was thinking like, um, that Goliath at new England might go, um, yeah, probably from what I've heard, it's terrible and it's not open very much. Unfortunately, I could see, um, either.
00:20:30
Speaker
I don't want this to happen, but I feel like American Eagle is really, really close to either like a permanent SBNO or like a removal. That makes me so fucking sad. And that makes me even more sad. Yeah. Or demon. Honestly, those three. Although you know what? I take it back. I could see demon going before wizard or eagle.
00:20:59
Speaker
I mean, Demon would probably be less missed than Wizard or Eagle. Yeah, right. I don't think it would be missed at all, really. Obviously, people will miss it, but not like Wizard. People would fucking chain themselves to the ride if they removed Wizard.
00:21:21
Speaker
And you know what? Do you think Six Flags kept all of those drawings that PR claim they got sent to them when they said they were removing Wizzer? I don't think so. But they definitely said that the public outcry was so much that they decided not to. But they were ready to fucking tear that shit down before. Yeah, right. I mean, you know, and then Shockwave shit the bed.
00:21:51
Speaker
Yeah, so if it wasn't for that shit, 18 years ago, it would have been gone and they were ready to do it because they had the banner out and everything. Yeah, I remember the banner. I remember actually I remember riding the coaster during that whole thing, but also Shockwave is close, too. Yeah, I remember. I remember Shockwave was closed for a while and then the banner was still on a wizard. But, uh, yeah. Yeah, I remember waiting in full queue for that ride with my mom.
00:22:22
Speaker
Nice. That was like 13. Get a quote-unquote last ride on it. Nice, cute. Yeah, yeah. I can't wait to go back to Great America. They didn't open at all this fucking season. Oh my god, that's right. Dude, Magic Mountain is open and letting people drive through the park. That looks so fucking cool. I watched a video of it.
00:22:46
Speaker
That's pretty fucking crazy that they're, I mean, like, obviously it makes sense, but like, it's just funny that they're turning six flags into like a drive through attraction. Yeah, but like they really upped the game on the lights. It looked really good for like a six flags holiday event. It looked really good. That's cool.
00:23:07
Speaker
So, I mean, how cool is it that you get to drive through a park, you know? Yeah. I wonder if they have any traffic incidents or car accidents, fender benders. It seems like they have a lot of people throughout that make sure things are okay. Yeah. Someone runs out of gas, car starts on fire, flat tire.
00:23:33
Speaker
So he uses the gas and the brake. Yeah. Can you get charged with the DUI while in the park? Yes. Yes. There's one to YouTuber will confirm. No, I'm just kidding. I mean, it'd be pretty great if like you want to get rid of your junky car. Just go to that and like have your car break down and be like, oh, shit, I can't get it out and then just leave.
00:23:57
Speaker
Get an Uber, scratch the Vin. Oh, actually, you know what? Could you could you hire an Uber to drive you around that park event? That's a question we have to ask Johan Lennox. You know what? We got to text him. I'm going to text him right now and we're going to figure this out. Yeah. And I mean, like, what about all the people who don't have cars? It's Los Angeles. A lot of people Uber Uber everywhere.
00:24:25
Speaker
Yeah, hey dude, are you going to take an Uber to that drive-thru event at Magic Mountain? We'll see what he says. Anyway, yeah, that'd be fun. I'd love to go, but, you know, I'm not gonna go to California just to do that.
00:24:39
Speaker
But I wish they would have done that here at Great America because here at Great America They're just gonna have lights But it's still gonna be like not driving through your the answer. Yeah, he said shit I didn't even hear about it. So Hopefully he'll do it. I want a trip report low Johan. Yeah, that's like some good YouTube content seriously
00:25:01
Speaker
I actually went to a Christmas lights thing here in Denver at the Botanical Garden with some friends and it was pretty interesting except this is kind of funny. There was this girl who was kind of drunk, typical like wearing like bean boots, yoga pants, that like goose down parka.
00:25:28
Speaker
that everybody wears, that like Alaska goose down that you get at Nordstrom. You've seen, you've definitely seen it in Chicago. It's like the basic.
00:25:36
Speaker
winter uniform. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so we were waiting for the bathroom and she goes in there and she's in there for like 20 minutes. And I go back, I'm like, I'm next in line. And this was like a full on like assplosion. And it was to the like the quality, like the disgustingness of the toilet was so bad that, you know,
00:26:02
Speaker
that if someone did it before her, it wasn't like, you know what I'm saying? You wouldn't hang out in the bathroom for 20 minutes if the toilet was in this kind of condition.
00:26:12
Speaker
And it was like it was funny and it was impressive. And I wish I would have seen her after I got out of the bathroom and it was fucking disgusting. But yeah, just just I don't know. Lovely. Yeah. Like I'm just picturing like somebody who's afraid to sit on the toilet seat so they're so they're like squatting like three feet away from it. Jesus Christ.
00:26:39
Speaker
Lovely, Ben. That's a hmm. That's a great Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. I just want to know what happened. Is she OK? Anyway, well, I mean, hopefully, if if the lady who blew out her asshole at the party Ben was at, why the fuck were you at a party?
00:27:05
Speaker
No, it wasn't a party. It was a Christmas lights walkthrough. Oh, garden. Oh, I was texting Johan. I didn't even I must have missed certain details. But anyway, yeah, it was the one of the gardens here in Denver does like a Christmas lights thing. So I'm sorry, you had to use a public restroom.
00:27:25
Speaker
Well, it was like a restroom, you know, for in the gardens. OK. Well, we brought we brought flasks of a scotch. Well, that's that's fun. It was eelages and doing shit, so.
00:27:40
Speaker
Not surprising and lakeside too, right? Yeah, there's actually, it's funny because I feel like the owners of the family who owns it, they use it as storage during the off season. So there's always a bunch of junk just like hanging out around the parking lot. That's hilarious. One of the bathrooms actually is used, they store old arcade games in there.
00:28:03
Speaker
Interesting. It's a weird place. It's kind of a shit. It's like a literal shithole, but it's amazing. One of these days I'm gonna walk through Eelich in the winter and do like a live trip report, but it's everything's gonna be closed. And I'm just gonna like say that everything. I'm gonna like give incorrect information on everything. And then you're gonna get arrested for trespassing? No, you can like walk.
00:28:27
Speaker
Not like in it, but you can walk through it. There's a, like a bike trail that goes right up along it. Oh, interesting. It's in a little park area. I need to go to Denver when that park's actually open, just so I can at least go. Cause it kind of sucks to be a coaster enthusiast. He's been to Denver twice now and seen Elitch, but never been there. Yeah. I mean, it's a good 20 minute experience.
00:28:54
Speaker
You run to the SLC first, get that and then, uh, get the half pipe and then you can get everything else in like 10 minutes. I just, I like Denver. There's good. We eat at decent prices. If you know where to look, there's good beer and there's good Mexican food and it's beautiful. So like, what's not to like, right? Yeah. Elich is a cool park too. I actually really like the downtown setting.
00:29:20
Speaker
Um, it just, it feels really weird. Like it's, it's, cause it's not a park. I go, you know, like I've been here for like almost five years. I won't count the whole Seattle thing.
00:29:33
Speaker
Yeah. It's just really weird. Like when you live in the city and you're going in and out all the time and you, and I see that park every fucking day, but then I only go into the park like once a year. And when you're in the park, it's just like, whoa, this is really fucking weird. Like it just doesn't look right. Um, yeah, it's cool though. Well, I just like that, you know, you can get high as balls. It's harder to do and not legal States. Yeah.
00:29:59
Speaker
The only thing I wish Eilich had were like bars and restaurants closer to the park. There's really nothing nearby, but
00:30:09
Speaker
Yeah, we parked right across the street from it to go to a dispensary near there, but it definitely didn't seem like it was much of a neighborhood, really. No, there's the Pepsi Center, and then there's a shit ton of parking lots for the Bronco Stadium, but yeah, there's really nothing. There's really nothing over there, so I'll never forget going to Eelich when there was a Deaf Leopard concert,
00:30:35
Speaker
And it brought out all of these, like, I guess boomers, you know, like the.
00:30:44
Speaker
the Def Leppard kind of boomer types who were all walking to the concert. And there was this one couple who looked like your typical acers and they had two giant flies, like just circling them, you know, like clearly for like a block. It was really funny. Oh God. Yeah, it was a shit show.
00:31:07
Speaker
Well, did you hear deaf leopard at all? No. You're like even better. I mean, the early stuff is good pyromania was cool. Everything after that was. They were a little homoerotic, right? Yeah. Yeah. And they're their drummer have has one arm. Oh, that's cool. Good for him.
00:31:31
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's gotta be the only instrument you can still play effectively with one arm. Yeah, true. Anyway. I'm trying new weed right now. For sure, for sure. So it's fucking Christmas. Yeah, that's why I'm getting high.
00:31:47
Speaker
Same here. We're smoking some Christmas tree. And you know what? We were taking it back to Christmas as kids for us, because this has been a fucked up year. So why not think about some of the fun shit from when we were kids? And we came up with a great idea for this episode. So one of the classics
00:32:11
Speaker
from our childhood absolutely. And a staple for anybody who's a coaster enthusiast that's probably around our age is absolutely without a doubt America's greatest roller coaster thrills in 3D. Yeah, this is like the classic POV video.
00:32:33
Speaker
It really, it was the first, I think this is really the first video that was just POVs because like I remember going to the library and checking out rollercoaster VHSs and they always kind of sucked. They were always just the like Discovery Channel shows, which don't really have a whole lot of POV. They're just more, it's more like interview style.
00:32:54
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Yeah, I think I this video really for me started at all because like my parents got me this as a VHS when I was like when it was brand new. Yeah, I don't know. I want to say this is from like 93. Yeah, it looks about right. It was when. Yeah, it had to have been when Batman the ride at Magic Mountain was new. Yeah. Here, let me Google it real quick so we know what we're talking about here.
00:33:24
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This is also pretty cool because it shows a lot of arrows that are gone. Yeah. Okay. 94. No, yeah. 94. Okay. So yeah, I had a copy of this that my parents got me when I was a kid on VHS and I remember my dad used to like put it on and put like this little chair down and I'd sit and he'd push it around to the POVs. Nice.
00:33:50
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And they also got me that like world's greatest roller coaster thrills in 3d. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that one too. Yeah. Yeah. But, um, this one was the original, the classic, the like that just really set the bar, I think for coaster enthusiasts videos for a long time. This is where Rob Elvie got the idea.
00:34:12
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I mean, yeah, I don't remember seeing a whole lot of POV shots before this video, like not like before, but like historically, you know what I mean? Yeah. Footage from before this didn't really contain a lot of POV, like you were saying, those documentaries and Discovery Channel shows, they weren't really heavy on POV footage. Yeah.
00:34:35
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Do you remember, um, the discovery channel used to have POVs of coasters, but they were the, the, uh, quick time thumbnail videos. Yeah. I remember those. Do you remember like the six flags website used to have them too? Yeah, right. I do remember that. And you would like download them. That's right.
00:35:01
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And then, uh, CIFFGAM World used to have those ones. No, wait, maybe not. No, they had like edited videos for different rides. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, no, I, um, I think this, there's probably not a single coaster person in our age group or older that didn't have a copy of this.
00:35:21
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Yeah, this is big, it was at, you can get this at the library too for, well did they have this one in stores? Like where do people find it? They must have, I don't know, cause like, I'll have to ask my dad where he ended up finding a VHS copy of this when it was brand new. Cause I feel like the internet was still too much in its infancy to be able to easily find something like that and purchase it, you know? Right, yeah.
00:35:51
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So, I don't know, we'll have to... Okay, I know our audience is pretty broad now, so if anyone out there listening knows, like, how this was distributed, distributed. How this was distributed when it first came out and how you could get a copy back in the day, let us know, because we're interested. You know, I was a kid, it just happened to show up one day because my parents got it, so...
00:36:17
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Right. Yeah. But yeah, after I saw this video, I remember it was like, I wanted to go to six flags. I was still too scared to ride the coasters, but I was like, just so fascinated by them. And I would like watch this video. And I remember I would take like, um, I had a big collection of Hot Wheels cars when I was a kid and I would like, you know, make them do roller coaster maneuvers and stuff. Yeah. That's, that was another thing I used to do too. I had, um, they were.
00:36:48
Speaker
I want to say milk crates, but they were made out of plastic. Um, and they had diagonal patterns. Yeah, I know what you're talking about, but they were really good for, um, putting Hot Wheels track through so you can make really complex inversions and stuff. Um, so I, I remember once I made a Cobra roll.
00:37:12
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but I couldn't get the car, but I couldn't get the car to really stay on it all the way. It always fall off on the second part, but yeah, I would like just try to make like all the different elements and then I would have it start from the top of the stairs and go to the basements and stuff like that. Well, I didn't have like actual track for my Hot Wheels. I just had the cars. So I would like pick them up with my hand and like, you know, Oh, okay. Yeah.
00:37:40
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Not quite as elaborate as your whole setup. Although I would have loved that shit when I was a kid, you know. Yeah, Hot Wheels track is really great. It's it's actually one of the things that I'll play with with my nephew. Like I always get him into building tracks, so maybe I can get him in a roller coasters. Yeah, for sure. I mean, they're fascinating machines. Yeah.
00:38:09
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But anyway, um, Oh, hold on. I'm checking in the live stream chat real quick. Let's see. Uh, Gabriel's in here. What's up, Gabriel? He said he feels bad for Elitch. Oh, my mom's in here. Hi, mom.
00:38:24
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She wants she's saying, uh, what did you want to ask that? Oh, ask him how he was able to get a copy of America's Greatest Roller Coaster Thrills in 3D as a VHS back in 1994 when it came out. And then Gabriel also said he made coaster layouts with his backpack straps. That's pretty inventive. Oh, you know what? Yeah.
00:38:51
Speaker
Shit, I used to do that in school. I'd always because we would put our backpack onto the desk and it had that it was like a cargo, not a cargo. It was like a wire. I don't know how to describe it. It was like a grid wired thing. So I'd always like take the straps and put it through the squares and make it do like loops and stuff. Interesting. Yeah, Logan saying he would use pipe cleaners.
00:39:21
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I remember when I was a kid, I would just make a lot of drawings like in school. It'd be like a side view. Yeah. All the time, like a drop, a loop, you know. But like complex elements were really hard to do from a side view, you know, like it's a cobra roll, but it kind of just looks like a like the track ends. Yeah, right. Yeah, doing the banking was kind of hard to do.
00:39:50
Speaker
I would always like, uh, the side view is a sideline. And then when I had wanted bank, I'd have to, I would actually like you to use two lines. It was kind of like looking at it in no limits. Yeah. That's what I always did. It was, it would just end up looking like, like if it was a helix, it would just kind of look like a zigzag, like an N on the side. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. So anyway.
00:40:14
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man being a kid that was into coasters was kind of it's weird where your imagination goes with it how you're able to like see it where you're looking for you know what i mean right yeah but um this video definitely takes me back because i mean yeah until youtube really there wasn't much in the way of coaster videos we have those rob alvey videos couple discovery channel shows this tape the other tape you know what i mean
00:40:43
Speaker
yeah right yeah that was it books there was a few books out there yeah yeah i still have my one that's like a coffee table book i guess that's all good shit to to want as gifts there's got to be new stuff now i don't know if anyone's producing dvd is there any more or anything
00:41:04
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Well, I mean, imagine I mean, imagine if you're a man with throat, imagine if you're like 12 years old and you're on TikTok and like what is a book, the same excitement when you can just Google it or watch YouTube or watch Coaster Studios. Yeah, that's true. I guess there's really no need for that. There's no market.
00:41:26
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which I'm catching up with the chat here and it says that my dad would cruise video tapes for fun stuff. So I know he had like a collection of video tapes of like old advertisements and like old cartoons. Like he had weird video tapes. Yeah. So it wouldn't surprise me because I think he had like friends that were tape collectors too. If maybe an ad showed up on one or something.
00:41:56
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with a way to buy it. Yeah, right. Like that's kind of what I'm picturing maybe happened. Like the pre-internet or like very early internet days are kind of mysterious in a way, you know? Yeah, and yet shit still worked and you could still find what you needed.
00:42:16
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Oh, yeah, totally. But it was just like it's a different it's a different world. So you take that shit away and just like, huh, how do I find X, Y or Z? You know, yeah, it's an interesting thought. Anyway, we've we've rambled plenty about this video. Should we let it roll? Yeah, let's just start it. All right. You want to count down? I mean, I'm already in or see if I can get this restart.
00:42:45
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Yeah, go back to the beginning. I'm going to post a link in the chat for anyone who wants to watch along. I'll also include the, uh, the audio in the background for our live stream audience. Hey everybody. We got shirts. Your favorite coaster sucks on the Amazon store. Check it out.
00:43:06
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00:43:32
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00:44:04
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Yeah, what the hell? All right. So production and then a fully designed. Goldhill video, right? It goes right into the actual thing. That the intro music always just immediately. I'm like, I know what this is. Yeah. Today's high tech screen machine. Some of those look.
00:44:31
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Some of those look fucking amazing, those old ones. Oh, God, it's mean streak. It'll be interesting to see what they considered the best coasters in 94. Oh, man, that 3D. Yeah. Oh, wow. That probably cost them five thousand dollars to get that rendered.
00:45:09
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Yeah, he did all the voiceovers for like most of the Discovery Channel shows.
00:45:19
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Can you say you met him one time? Yeah, he like worked. He did work for a company I was interning for, like a production company. And I remember, because like, I remember hearing the voice in the other room, like down the hall, I kind of muffled and I was like, Holy shit, I know that voice. Like, what the fuck is it? And there's these people doing voiceover work. Interesting.
00:45:48
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Yeah, it was a cool job. I mean, I didn't get paid for that job, but that was cool. Cool exposure. Yeah, no, that sounds pretty cool. It's interesting. Okay. So what I always find interesting about looking at videos of
00:46:11
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arrows when they're new is that they still look vintage even when they were brand new. Do you know what I mean?
00:46:20
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it's just the aesthetic of arrow coasters period. Six flags over Texas, one of the fastest, highest and wildest coasters in the country, the Texas Giant. At Cedar Point Amusement Park in Ohio, we find three of America's greatest coaster owner if they still had the Confederate flag on the six legs over Texas intro in their plaza. Probably.
00:46:48
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Magnum okay mean streak. What else did we have so far? All right Raptor No, no Coney Island cyclone no
00:47:04
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That was probably when it was even shittier yet. Oh, the Beast. The Beast. Absolutely not. Oh, Top Gun Flight Deck. That one looks fucking awesome, actually. It's really short, but it's really unique.
00:47:26
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It's pretty good. Ooh, Kumba. Fuck yeah. Ooh, Drakenfire. And Big Bad Wolf. Big Bad Wolf was great.
00:47:47
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Steel Phantom. Looked interesting. Oh, Thunderbolt. Yeah. Okay. You can tell when that guy talks. Like his mouth opens up so much bigger and it has like a weird shape than anyone. You know, like you can tell he's definitely a voice guy.
00:48:11
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He has a trained mouth for it. Ron Toomer looks like a full on hipster. Oh yeah, he does. I like that artwork he has hanging up. Oh yeah, that's Gemini. Is it? Yeah, it's Gemini.
00:48:42
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There it is. And that's how loops got designed.
00:48:47
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The only one design of a loop they've ever made. OK, don't get too full of yourself there. The original design and whatnot. Yeah, like that that thing looked like he dropped it and dropped something on it. Like he turned it and then a book dropped on it or something. And he's like, oh, that could work. A prototype, a full scale ride or a scale part of a ride. OK, that looks awesome, though.
00:49:17
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It does. I just love how they show it, like, not completed. And not cycling?
00:49:26
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It's all rusty. Yeah, we have no footage of it working, but we're just gonna have the camera guy go out and follow the track for you. Right. And then what's that track in the background? I'm curious about that too. Oh yeah.
00:49:53
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I am staying right here on terra firma. Oh, God. It's the creepiest way you could say that.
00:50:05
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He also looks like a 2020 dad. Yeah. Well, he was what, like 40 when they filmed this? Yeah, I think so. Although I got to say, has dad look ever really changed? Not really. Yeah. So now it's just gay millennials trying to be ironic. That kid was dressed mad 2020.
00:50:28
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The kid posing with Bugs Bunny. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, totally. Holy shit. Colossus. Oh, and Freefall. Oh, Cyclone. Flashback. OK, there we go. Ninja Ride that's still there and Batman. OK. You all set? You ready to go? No, no, I'm not going. I'm going to stay right here. Viper! I'll cheer you on from right here. Fine. Fine. I'll make you a glass of warm milk. I like how they hired her to not ride the coaster.
00:50:59
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Right. Because like obviously she's just delivering lines and doing whatever they are paying her to do. And then there she's she's not in the shot with him. So like they're paying her to be there and not ride the ride. It's a high speed ride. I forgot that they show an on ride of still probably the or like a video of him on the rides.
00:51:28
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Yeah, yeah. Cause they like probably thought, well, my guess is they were probably trying to fill a whole hour of time. And if you get like 10 POVs, that's not an hour. Yeah, that's true. Also yellow restraints. This must've been like pretty recently after they had changed them. Oh no. Viper was like still new. It says 1990. So.
00:51:56
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Viper was, like, only a couple years old at this point. Of course, because it's ranked as one of the best. Holy shit, that giant plot of land where X is now. Yeah, right. I love all this b-roll. Like, one of my favorite things about these old videos is when they cut to off-ride shots.
00:52:22
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after they've already shown the people like the main characters riding and then they cut to a red off-ride shot and it's like different clothes on the people in the front and you're like okay so it's definitely not the same people riding he's losing his shit over this like barely a drop drop
00:52:47
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Also, it doesn't really show... I'm always watching for the head banging on the on-ride. Yeah, no, it looks like they picked a good seat for it. I love that shot, the double corkscrew shot. Yeah. I remember, since we're talking about childhood and coasters, I had a math book.
00:53:08
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When I was in middle school that had a picture of Shockwave's double corkscrew on it, like that shot for him the same way. And like, I got into an argument with the kid because he's like, that's not Shockwave. And he's like, Shockwave doesn't do that. I'm like, OK. Like it's blue. It was clearly Shockwave, you know. Yeah. Oh, and then this this. With these canned fucking screams, Jesus.
00:53:38
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I love the graphic display of the speed. Right? Pretty sure that's not accurate. It is not accurate at all. Although, holy shit, this thing is on fire for this tape if they didn't speed it up at all. Like, Jesus. Yeah, that plot looks very...
00:54:08
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It's funny. It's yeah, it's huge. It is. It's crazy to see it just completely unoccupied. That one straight section of track on Viper is like really weird. Yeah, I should have done something.
00:54:39
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Yeah, it could have had a drop or something, but, you know, hey, whatever. I got a ride that next time I'm at Magic Mountain. You were asking about Six Flags rides that might go. That one. Yeah. Yeah, I'd agree. Oh, what am I doing? I got to get in movie mode. Movie mode.
00:55:04
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Yeah, I turned the lights off in my little recording studio. There you go. I have a Christmas shrub. Nice. Ooh, Cedar Point. Wow, that logo. Right? That was about as 80's as they come.
00:55:31
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This was when the water was like toxic. Holy shit, look how tiny breakers is then. Yeah, there was like a few decades where Lake Erie was like toxic as shit. That's disgusting. Were people still swimming in it?
00:56:02
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I don't know. Hope not. Mean Street was God, that old paint job on Iron Dragon was horrific. It took 300 miles of lumber to build at a cost. Oh, the Mean Street construction. Let's take it for a ride, shall we? That's pretty cool. I like the time lapses. Yeah. Oh, I miss that water ride. Oh, the yeah. Yeah.
00:56:31
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Yeah, they had a pretty good log flume. That one was good. I do remember that as a kid. That was a great one. So yeah, mean streak. And the cool thing is this is about the way it would ride when it was trimless. I also remember the disappointment in riding mean streak for the first time in 2000.
00:56:55
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When we waited in line and I remember it seemed super slow compared to the videos and I was like, oh man, this looks like it's slow as shit. I don't think I ever got a trimless ride on it. It makes it better, but not amazing.
00:57:18
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I mean, even even when this ride first opened, you could tell it wasn't super exciting. It was kind of bland. Yeah, I'm wondering why it was included just because it was a big wooden coaster.
00:57:32
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Yeah, probably. I mean, it was a big deal at the time. I think it was the tallest wooden coaster or something. Its first hill is 161. Now it's your turn. 65 miles per hour in the front seat. Deep drops and high curves. Here we go.
00:57:59
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And this is before the trims on the first drop. Yeah, really, with the trims off, the biggest difference is the turnaround, the lift hill into the double down, because it actually has air time. Especially in the back row, it's pretty good air time. Sorry, go ahead.
00:58:23
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Other than that, though, it's not too much. Like, OK, it's like this part right here with the trims off is is a lot better. It's more. It's probably the most intense part of the ride. Like, yeah, I don't remember ever having a really like a good experience on mean streak. OK, see a mid course breaks off and you can even tell like this part right here.
00:58:54
Speaker
Didn't even really have air time, even when it was trimless. Man. And this part, you know, it's just kind of like doing whatever. Yeah. Like a long, barely banked turn. Like, yeah, this like, it just looks long and boring. The only cool thing about this ride,
00:59:23
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I love how you just went past somebody on the track. But yeah, the only cool thing about that ride I think was the fact that you spent so much time in its own structure. Oh fuck yeah, Magnum. Dude, I fucking forgot how much I loved Magnum. It was great to ride it again when I was at Cedar Point a couple weeks ago.
00:59:53
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Yeah, third row and back row. I hate that fucking turnaround. He's really just like, you know, we had no idea this router would be good. You know, it just we weren't expecting an air time and then. Yeah, we weren't really sure what the fuck we were doing.
01:00:21
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But we said, yeah, we can build a 200 foot tall mine train. God, you can see the cars like wiggling in that shot. Yeah. Day one. This was only five years old at this point. Yeah. And this is after it was modified.
01:00:49
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Yeah, the turnaround fucking sucks. But like... Yeah, Row 3 is that magic seat, man.
01:01:02
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See, I actually hate row three. I hate row three in the last row. I'm strictly a fifth-car first row, or no, whatever, six-car first row, because of the extra legroom. Because what you can do is what I do is I lift my legs up a little bit so the lap bar doesn't come down, and then I can push my feet forward, or my knees forward, and then get a little more room.
01:01:29
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Oh, all right. Well, you're you're bigger than me, so I don't need to accommodate for that. Ready for your ride? Oh, shit, here we go. The text is a little unnecessary. Yeah, right. Man, Soak City looks so fucking tiny then. Oh, that was those. That was when they had the speed slides. Those were so good.
01:02:03
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I honestly like this music in this POV. Like, most of the music in this video sucks, but this one's actually not bad. God, that turnaround.
01:02:32
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Yeah, I like the, uh, I like the roughness that the camera kind of adds to it. It seems like it's sitting really high as well. Yeah, it does. Cause it's like the bottom, the track is completely disappearing on the hills. Whoa, whoa, whoa. And then this weird ass part,
01:03:05
Speaker
This part of the ride is so weird. Yeah, it's always funny when they're running three trains on a hot day and they leave the trims off for too long and there's a block check and it like only the last cars hanging on to the brake run. At a cost of twelve million dollars. This has been the largest ride project in Cedar Point. One hundred and twenty five.
01:03:37
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Yeah, these construction time-lapses are dope. Although I wish they wouldn't... I wish they wouldn't have covered it up with, uh, the text. Yeah. Wrap there, kick the sky, not that guy. Oh yeah, the slow-mo cobra roll. Right, they gotta explain it.
01:04:11
Speaker
So they hired her to explain coasters that she's not gonna ride. And is nowhere near. Raptor's fucking awesome.
01:04:42
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And this was before like bird shit completely took over the lift Hill. Yeah. Who's the on ride people? I have no idea. Yeah. I wonder if this was, I wonder if this is like their media day footage. That's possible. Cause I imagine all they really did was like, Oh, she picked it. Did you see that?
01:05:11
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Yeah. She like picked her nose. Look out for that guy. Dude, that fucking elix is crazy. Yeah. I remember, uh, I remember seeing a kid losing at like a van's shoe that was untied.
01:05:40
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Oh, damn. Oh, and that and that break entrance looks pretty bad, too. Yeah, it always is, though. Oh, classic Cedar Point main midway. I like how there's no screams.
01:06:08
Speaker
Yeah, those screams get really annoying. I think the screams. The scream sound effect, they do add. I think they all come from the Coney Island Cyclone video. Really? I think so, because they show they show those like kids on the on ride and there's I want to say it comes from them. But I couldn't tell it wrong. Well, we'll see that coming up. Yeah, yeah.
01:06:42
Speaker
Yeah, I want to see what this transition looks like, even... Remember the strobe lights? No. That they had on the ground? No, not yet. There are these like slow strobing lights. That would be in, they had them in the cobra roll and then I think the last helix.
01:07:07
Speaker
Wasn't that, isn't that the cameras? No, like they were, they were like, they were ground strobes. Holy shit, old Kings Island footage. Well, International Street still looks the same. Looks, definitely looks like Ohio people.
01:07:35
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Oh, it's got skid brakes. Oh shit, King Cobra. Nice. Vortex. Ohio.
01:07:58
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Oh boy. All right. I bet three of the people on this train are posting somewhere in all caps on a message board right now. Yeah, maybe Sean Flaherty was here the day they shot this video. Kings Island construction company.
01:08:24
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The first hill is I like how they cut to the lift hill. Like if you're going to cut to anything, cut to the drop, you know, maybe it's stopped on the lift hill or something. There's like a six point eight. Hold on tight and don't stand up. OK, do you see this like wall facade thing that's not there anymore? Is it still is it? No, no, no, no.
01:08:54
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It always looks so cheap. Yeah, it did. Like, just a little- Holy shit, that part looks like it actually had air time. Yeah, yeah. Not that part, though. Blake. Yeah, it doesn't look like you're even slowing down all that much. Yeah, I wonder, this- I mean, this definitely looks faster than normal, but
01:09:25
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Yeah, this ride probably was way better. Before it had like breaks. Yeah. Because this looks like it's cooking. Let's see at the final. Yeah, that last turn right here. Holy shit.
01:09:54
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It hit that turn aggressive as fuck. And now, of course, the second lift hill. Yeah, I want to see this probably has skid breaks on the way down, right?
01:10:23
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I'm not sure. Let's see. Yeah. Okay. But still, holy shit. No, only part of the way down. Oh my God. Dude, just, it's whipping around the top of the helix. Holy fuck. Well, the best way to tell is how quick it or how fast it goes into the breaks. So like,
01:10:54
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Because normally it crawls in. This looks like it's doing, yeah, it's a little faster. But still, even old footage doesn't make it look amazing. No, but it definitely looked way better. Top gun.
01:11:21
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The Star Trek character. Oh shit, I got an ad. Did you get an ad? No. Alright, well. How long was your ad? I skipped it, so I'm just slightly behind you. The ice skater just passed by. And they're still in the carousel.
01:11:52
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There they cut to the entrance and then they could top gun logo. Yeah, that's right. Now it's the top gun cue. Yeah, okay. The theming looks cool. Yeah, for Paramount Park. It is kind of funny how like, oh, the uniforms are
01:12:15
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I bet that lasted like one season. Probably. Although I don't know, Paramount seemed pretty good about stuff like that. Damn, they had like fog in the station. Yeah, this ride looks dope as fuck.
01:12:38
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Oh my God. This is so weird though. Yeah. Cause it's this whole area. This whole area looks so underdeveloped. Oh yeah, it does. The Bay area is such a shit show. It must've, you know what? It must've been pretty cool to live out here in the nineties.
01:13:04
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I'm Batman. Oakesterdam was supposed to be where it was at. Yeah, this right looks pretty good. Yeah, it really does. Like, especially in this, especially with like the, this footage, it's just, it's just short, but, um, it's, it's about as intense as Batman.
01:13:32
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Yeah, that helix looks really great too. The one that's right over the water. Yeah. Like even that like kind of helix there.
01:14:02
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This is definitely when they were trying to do like jet pilot maneuvers, not like swooshy flips, you know? Yeah, it's back when B&M had character. Yeah, I don't like the swooshy.
01:14:31
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Good thing I'm not wearing a white shirt. Let's go ride this. Right, the water ride. This will be good. Old, old Texas Giant footage is pretty wild. Yeah, I'm curious to see if it actually looked any good. It's been a while since I've seen this video, so I'm excited because Beast looked way better than I remembered it. Well, I mean, yeah, the Texas Giant was
01:15:02
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I mean it was apparently when it first opened it was fucking it was like the best wooden coaster ever but it was by accident it was it was good by poor design what do you mean well because it had unnecessarily steep drops
01:15:20
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So the whole ride was just loaded with ejector airtime. Especially if you're in the back row. Interesting. Yeah, like this, this, this ride was not like mean streak at all. Apparently it was pretty nuts. I love the helicopter shot. Texas being Texas.
01:15:50
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Yep. Oh, it was only 137 feet? I thought it was taller. That guy looks bored as fuck. That drop is that weirdness of the... Yeah. Yeah, so like in this part, I guess these like drops were crazy.
01:16:16
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Oh, that like angle looks, the angle of the turn looks really weird. I'm really curious to see this. You could see the camera shaking from the coaster going from wherever they're standing, though. It's kind of funny. Yeah. Holy shit. They cut in the POV. It's cooking. That drop definitely looks weird.
01:16:45
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Yeah, it was like maximized for air time. Interesting. Like, I wish I could have ridden it because I always wanted to. All right. Shake a few more nails.
01:17:16
Speaker
Okay, the drop looked decent. Let's see. Okay, yeah, that probably could have had some airtime. It had an angle to it, for sure. I mean, you can see the train buck up every time it drops out, even the front car. It kind of, like, pop. You can feel it, or see the train, like, pop up. Jesus Christ, this thing was rough, though. Yeah, and this is probably footage of it opening here.
01:17:46
Speaker
Seriously. Oh man. Like that probably was good. Like that. Damn. Seriously. It's like hauling for sure. It's kind of like, you know how GCI adds air time into bank turns. It almost looks like that, but accidental. Oh yeah. I could see that kind of, but like maybe like a few pops.
01:18:18
Speaker
Like definitely some of this looks crazy though. That was probably good. And that... This whole last portion seems really good. Damn. I thought this guy was Ron Toomer for a second.
01:18:43
Speaker
No, that's Ray Uberoth. He is the ace president. And I won a trivia contest at NoCoasterCon one time by knowing he was an ace president. Is he still around?
01:19:03
Speaker
I have no idea. Also kind of funny that they had an ace thing. Like, is that like a name tag? Yeah, that's clearly for like an event because I see the ace logo and the park logo.
01:19:20
Speaker
Ace has many different types of people. And it's like on a shirt. So yeah, it was. Is he wearing a class ring? And there are new coasters coming all the time, right? Yeah, there's definitely like some sort of event going on because we love those coasters because he's got his name tag on. This is what it was cool to have the American coaster enthusiasts in a
01:19:50
Speaker
You know, kind of like in Spotlight. Yeah. Well, it like... I don't know. It meant something then. Right, yeah. Other than like fucking kids. Bad timing with the shot. You got to be below this line.
01:20:20
Speaker
And it's his belt. Both of their pants are giving me anxiety. Like her hairstyle and the way he's dressed, just like everything about this says 1994.
01:20:45
Speaker
I wonder what road they're in. I mean, he's a grown adult and he has like hair that you would see on a child. Yeah, like a school photo. With a full hairline and everything. Yeah. He got nervous for like one second. Yeah. Also, it's cool as shit that they got to film from the lift.
01:21:23
Speaker
Yeah, it looks like he's getting, like, beat up. Oh, maybe. Like he's, uh, like he's blacking out or something. They didn't really show him enough to, like, be able to- Maybe that's why they cut away.
01:21:54
Speaker
How about you? Still looks just like that outside of Magic Mountain. Wow, Batman the Ride.
01:22:23
Speaker
And it was like unique back then, too. Yeah, I mean, it was probably the most I mean, that was probably the most futuristic thing. As far as like, well, you're under the track. Yeah, I can't even imagine like when the inverts came out, like, you know, when Batman opened to Great America, just like.
01:22:48
Speaker
Well, it's a roller coaster, but you're underneath the track. Like... What? Excuse me. Holy shit, there's no rides. Bush Gardens. Kumba's so good.
01:23:23
Speaker
This old show footage is hilarious. What? Yeah, this is like all their... Yeah, it's like their marketing stuff. Yeah, a bunch of b-roll crap.
01:23:45
Speaker
Is that true? I like the guy holding his hat. Yeah, I know. That's not the camelback. That is a dive loop. And that's the loop. How did they fuck that one up then?
01:24:17
Speaker
It's probably, yeah, it's probably like some guy editing who just... See, I always forget this ride is built in 93. For some reason... This feels like way earlier. Yeah, no, I mean, it was brand new at the time of filming. Which, oh man, this ride's great.
01:24:47
Speaker
It's like the greatest hits of B&M before there was a greatest hits. Yeah, right. Like if there was like one B&M to perfectly encapsulate what B&Ms were capable of and why they were so great, I'd say Kumba. Yeah, no, I'd agree with that.
01:25:14
Speaker
Maybe Montu, but that just means you gotta go to Busch Gardens. That turn is crazy.
01:25:42
Speaker
Alrighty. That's... that's... Kumba. And then they go... No, they just... they didn't include the full POV. They're like, eh, fuck it. We'll just move on. But that's okay. They go to Big Bad Wolf. They go to, uh, Busch Gardens, Williamsburg.
01:26:07
Speaker
Okay, the music got really bad again. Okay, Orion River Cruise. Yeah, alright. Sure.
01:26:26
Speaker
I mean... Oh, they still have to get to Kennywood. Yeah, no, they still got stuff. It's crazy, because I think Busch Gardens probably still looks the same way now. Yeah. Because of the way the park is. God, I gotta get back there. It's been fucking 15 years since I've been there. When I went there, my mom and I rode the Big Bad Wolf together.
01:26:56
Speaker
And I know she was listening, maybe she still is, so shouts to my mom. Oh, it's Ronsumer again. He's like, yeah, you know, I...
01:27:17
Speaker
The park gave me some B&M plans and I just was like, well fuck, how do I make this work? Oh, wrong coaster. That one's coming up. Oh man, that was a crazy mustache. Yeah, it was. Of a pedo. Did you see the guy in the yellow shirt? Yep.
01:27:45
Speaker
It's crazy that most of the suspended ghost just had two lifts. What is that guy doing? He was like making a face. It's like act excited for the cameras. Yeah, make a dumb goofy face.
01:28:15
Speaker
He's clapping. Do they even show the helix yet? And they go right to the drop. Nice. The rocking seems pretty. Especially because, I mean, I know they're trying to be not, uh,
01:28:46
Speaker
They were trying not to be, like, bad. Yeah. But there's still some good rock or swinging. Yeah, definitely. Is that like a microphone? Either that or like a camera? I couldn't tell. God, this ride was so good.
01:29:24
Speaker
Yeah, man with the buildings and stuff. Like obviously didn't get on eel's fortress, but this is like perfect for a suspended coaster. Yeah. Yeah, I think. Go ahead. I just, I think with, uh, yeah, I wish they would have done a little more verbal verboten.
01:29:54
Speaker
to make up for it. Yeah, they really could have. All right, it's Ron Toomer now. Sorry, I got an ad.
01:30:07
Speaker
Now it's going up the lift hill. Yeah. But yeah, I think I don't know the layout, it was just everything was designed for the swinging and the interplay with the buildings. Like it's just super cool. And then this drop was awesome.
01:30:33
Speaker
Ta-da. Yep. And it got so much swing on that part that, like, you could see the chassis in the shot. Like the wheel housing. Oh shit, dragon fire. Yeah, this is when Arrow got in over their fucking head.
01:31:01
Speaker
Yeah, even those supports. Yeah, like what the fuck were they thinking? Although I would have loved to see this as a B&M coaster. The greatest thing about that first inversion is that that's the first inversion of what?
01:31:30
Speaker
fuck steel curtain is like what it like what steel curtain or steel curtain does what drop and fire was supposed to do with that first turn around that first element yeah I could see it well they sped that shit the fuck up yeah that part look cool because it went right around the midway
01:31:57
Speaker
What's up with this inverted shit? Oh, I don't know. The color is so weird. Yeah, it's supposed to be like a fake out kind of inversion. Roll upside down and I don't know. We'll figure out a way to make it normal.
01:32:25
Speaker
If you can't do the element with your hand fully, then you should reconsider it. I mean, yeah, when your bar for designing is fucking pipe cleaners, yeah, maybe. That looked really interesting. I wonder if that part had airtime.
01:32:54
Speaker
Hopefully The baking in the cobra roll looks so fucking awkward and then right here. Yeah Yeah, it was like arrow is trying to imitate even the quick transitions of B&M in some of the turns. Oh God that right there looked terrible Cutback looked awesome
01:33:28
Speaker
And they tried to do interlocking corkscrews, but they got it wrong. Somebody was saying that when they were bending the pieces for the break run that the last turn into the break run and the break one was misaligned by like four feet. Oh, holy shit, really?
01:33:55
Speaker
Yeah, because they used to like hand bend all the track segments.
Kennywood's History and Changes
01:33:59
Speaker
Basically like doing it by eye. Oh, my God. How is that thing allowed to operate? Speedo plane built near the turn of the century. Oh, OK. This is Kennywood. Yeah, 1921. Pippin, a 1924 edition. Oh boy, Kennywood in 1927.
01:34:24
Speaker
finest traditional amusement park. That's a, that's a self-given title. I mean, Kenny would stop though. Yeah. Apparently though, you know how Indiana beach, when it got bought out by that trailer park,
01:34:49
Speaker
And it got it kind of went to shit. Apparently, that's what's happening to Kennywood now from people I've heard who have been there. It stands on the side of the old but not surprising. I heard they're removing some of their old rides. Yeah. The rest of the coaster was completely redesigned. That old sky coaster footage. Let's go for a ride. Oh, Thunderbolt.
01:35:23
Speaker
Thunderbolt's fucking awesome. Yeah, it's a good ride. Like I love old wooden coasters. As long as they don't actively try to murder you like the Coney Island Cyclone. And I also love that it has the drop right out of the station. Yeah.
01:36:03
Speaker
I love that $700 per car. Interesting. Oh yeah, there's no seat dividers on here. Yeah, those trains are dope.
01:36:28
Speaker
Those are probably, like, the coolest looking wooden coaster trains. Are those the, uh, those are the national amusement device trains? This guy. I think, yeah, are these NADs? Guess so.
01:37:01
Speaker
I remember, yeah, I did an Ace event here in 2011. Oh, nice. It's pretty fun. I haven't been there since 08. I gotta go back there. Yeah, Thunderbolt's dope.
01:37:31
Speaker
Phantom's Revenge is dope. And Steel Curtain will hopefully be open. And I love it. I think it's still got the skid breaks, right? Uh, hopefully it better.
01:38:00
Speaker
I love that it did in this video. And the giant drop. Yeah. The train reaches 80 miles per hour. What's next? Another major coast. Steel Phantom. They faced a basic. Oh, that's right. Lack of space and they solved it. It is interesting that this ride lasted nine years on its way to the bottom of the steepest hill. Steel Phantom was only nine. Well, it was closed in 2000.
01:38:29
Speaker
Yeah. It was built in... 90 maybe? Yeah, maybe. Um... So 10 years. It's a short living arrow coaster. Shh.
01:38:58
Speaker
Oh, 91. Yeah, so it was only a lot around nine years. Damn. I mean, I really thought, you know, we're not going to it was one of the well, we are arrows with the biggest drops, so.
01:39:16
Speaker
And I think there's no limit now. I think the only limit we're going to see is... They must have got beat up a lot, you know? Yeah, you can tell even in the footage that they're showing that people are getting pretty beat up. Like, that's one thing I keep thinking about is like, with these old arrows, like, they were not really the best engineered. They were just the best engineered for the time.
01:39:46
Speaker
Oh man, that dude is, uh, Mr. Mellow yellow. Seriously certified ace right there. Yeah. The speed in these inversions look pretty crazy too. Yeah, definitely. I bet there was some crazy ass G's. Yeah.
01:40:30
Speaker
Fuck yeah. Ready for the POV. Let's find out. That's a giant parking lot. Yeah, it is. Holy fuck, that is so big. I want to say that's still there. Most of it.
01:40:59
Speaker
God, like speed graphic is just so funny. Yeah, it's how they they were like incrementally getting higher. And then it it like was they're like, OK, time's up. Make it 80. But yeah, the speed it's taking these inversions crazy. Yeah, I mean, the on-ride POV looks rough.
01:41:26
Speaker
Yeah, it does. Oh, they were building the rapids right in the one thousand surf. Oh, yeah, I saw that. OK. Home of one of the most famous roller coasters, Cyclone, New York. Oh, boy. OK. And we built and reinforced many times since then.
01:41:45
Speaker
It's a nostalgic favorite, yes, but still one of America's- Astra- Isn't that Astraland sign? Because it had the weird, like, weird lettering. The bottom line says a toad. And actually, this shot makes the cyclone look really nice. Yeah, it does. Like, this whole park looks pretty- Oh shit, and there's the Thunderbolt in the background.
01:42:14
Speaker
I remember I parked right there outside of
01:42:19
Speaker
Cyclone. Which was crazy because we drove from fucking Rye Beach Playland. I was so glad we got to park right there.
01:42:45
Speaker
I did not want to have to drive around Brooklyn looking for parking. Alright. Well it's... Yep. That's a weird logo. Oh yeah! Very weird. Doesn't even look like it. That guy working.
01:43:19
Speaker
Oh, God. Yeah, I want to say somebody on this train screaming is. The voice they use. But I could be totally wrong. Oh, wow.
01:43:46
Speaker
Well, it could be. None of the ones on the first drop lined up, but that doesn't mean it's not. The Seinfeld song going on in the background. Yep. I mean, 90s New York look pretty cool.
The Charm of 80s and 90s New York
01:44:11
Speaker
Yeah, it's cool to hear Jerry talking about Coney Island in the 80s and 90s. Yeah. I mean, from what I understand, New York was at the time, it was kind of in that sweet spot of being safe and gentrified, but also like still kind of, you know, its true self as a city. Yeah, I think it was definitely gritty.
01:44:45
Speaker
I kind of wish I could have been around in an urban environment in like the 70s or 80s. Like Chicago or New York. Yeah. Three dollars a ride? Wow. Damn. What is it now? Like 15 bucks? I think it's like 10.
01:45:16
Speaker
But it wouldn't surprise me if it goes up next year. Like, I don't... I don't know. Am I missing something about this ride, Ben? Well, when was the last time you rode it? 2008.
01:45:43
Speaker
Oh, I mean, it was probably just a bad ear. I mean, I don't think it's amazing, but I definitely think it's probably better than the ride you had on it. I mean, look at the looking at this POV. It looks like it's flying. But it looks like there's crazy airtime. And lats. Yeah. I think once was enough.
01:46:11
Speaker
I don't like how they fade the music back up. All right. Well, she liked Batman. Oh, they actually do it again. Wow.
01:46:40
Speaker
I guess so. All right. Well, that was a blast from the past. It sure was. Oh shit. And there's that 3d graphic again.
01:47:10
Speaker
Yup. Well, they paid $5,000 for it, so they gotta get their money's worth. Oh, I think... Okay. Is that also them on the Skycoat? No. Okay. No, I think it's the guys that made it. Those guys. Dick Studebaker and Ned Rogers. See if we can get one of them on the show.
01:47:40
Speaker
Yeah, it'd be funny. Yeah, that'd be cool. Oh, I love this footage of Cyclone where the camera ends up getting shaken loose. What about Lisa Williams or whatever? Shining? Oh, Lisa Williams. I don't know how to get ahold of her.
01:48:07
Speaker
Eric Gore and Bob Tubb. Bob Tubb. Bob Bowles? Also, I saw Richard Johnson. Dick Johnson, really? Oh, yeah, I wonder what happened with this. Yeah, what kind of mount were they using is really...
01:48:41
Speaker
Cause I thought like there was like some bonus footage in the later DVD, like the next generation one where they were talking about he taped a camera to a helmet to film POVs. Okay. Oh, Dan fight. He used to work for Cedar Point. Let's see. Anybody know? No, I don't recognize any of these names.
01:49:10
Speaker
Carolyn Booz, Lisa Brock, Eileen Harrell, Jodie Hutchinson. Let's see, anybody else? Maybe somebody we recognize? This is not as excellent. Mary Lou Rosemeyer from Kennywood. Although she's no longer working with Kennywood. Who gave new meaning to the words cooperation and hospitality.
01:49:41
Speaker
Well, that's cool. Yeah. Mary Lou was great. Remember, she used to go to, um, no coach to con and do the presentations for Kenny wood. Okay. Good God. This music is terrible.
01:50:05
Speaker
Well, well, that was, uh, that was, that was a fun blast from the past there. Haven't watched that in a minute, but that was fun. Yeah. It's been a long time since I've seen that. Oh God. It's auto-plane roller coaster too. All right. Well, um,
01:50:32
Speaker
Before we get into autoplay territory, should we wrap this bad boy up? Sure. Cause it's Christmas and people have to get to their, um, gifts. Yeah. Whatever you're doing on this Christmas.
01:50:56
Speaker
this Christmas. That was unnecessary and I'll never do it again. I promise. Yeah. Oh my God. The lobby of my apartment is playing Christmas music already. And it, uh, okay. I mean, we are two days from Thanksgiving. So true, but like playing it in a lobby of something is a bit much.
01:51:24
Speaker
I bet Starbucks is playing Christmas music now, so. They do have the cups, I think. I'm going to have to go get a fucking chestnut praline. Know what I'm doing in the morning.
01:51:49
Speaker
So anyway, um, yeah, well that was fun. Fun Christmas episode. I know it's not roasting Robin, Alyssa, but it's still good. Yeah. And, uh, by the time this is out, we will have done a very, very special episode with video commentary on a gap video.
01:52:19
Speaker
It's not done yet, but go check it out. I know that's confusing to say, but it'll make sense. Yeah. Go check out the thing where we haven't done yet, but we're going to do whenever it happens. However you find it. We haven't done it as of the time of recording, but by the time this is released, it will have been done.
01:52:54
Speaker
and yeah our episode for Tommy so yeah all you need to do is email us a receipt showing that you donated money to Tommy's GoFundMe account and we will give you access to not only a special
01:53:13
Speaker
episode of your favorite coaster socks with video commentary by Ben and I, but you will also be able to download a full gap DVD. So that'll be fun. It's good shit.
01:53:37
Speaker
And it's the right time for it. It's Christmas. So if you haven't done it yet, get in the giving mood and throw a couple of bones to Tommy. We'll sweeten the deal for you. By throwing in a bonus episode of your favorite coaster sucks that you can only get.
Special Episode Announcement
01:53:57
Speaker
By emailing us a receipt.
01:54:01
Speaker
as well as a digital download of an old gap video. And trust me, those are fucking great. They don't need our commentary to be awesome. Unlike other coaster videos. And also, hopefully you don't like Photoshop or receipt. Yeah, no, no bullshit.
01:54:27
Speaker
But that's going to be great. So make sure you email us your receipts and we'll get an episode out to you. We got our normal shit to plug here. I don't have a rundown in front of us, but oh, I should get one ready, though, because we have a whole list of patrons to thank. So let me get that list up.
01:54:57
Speaker
So first of all, you guys know we're going to ask you leave us a review. However, you're listening to this show, whatever app or whatever you're using, leave us a review that way. We super appreciate it. Five stars. You can tell us what you got for Christmas. We will read the best ones on air. So whatever app like the like the content, however you listen to it, we appreciate it.
01:55:27
Speaker
Um, what else do we got? You can get ahold of us on all the socials, you know, Facebook, Instagram, um, Twitter, tumblr, Ben, I started as a Snapchat.
Community Engagement and Gratitude
01:55:44
Speaker
Oh, nice. No dick pics, please. Please. No. Send all the dick pics over to ride this one podcast at gmail.com. That is the agreement.
01:55:59
Speaker
they told us we get a referral bonus. So I'll leave that to you, Ben. Okay. Works for me. Um, you can contact us also, um, by using your favorite coaster sucks at gmail.com. That's our email address or
01:56:21
Speaker
I'm checking them now. Voicemail line. We got a voicemail line or a text line. So we do, we can get a voicemail from you or you can text us at 312-572-9552. Yeah.
01:56:40
Speaker
That's the best way. Or you know what? Another great way to get ahold of us, your favorite coaster sucks.com or roller coaster podcast.com. That's right. We got that. Um, what else do we got? We got a discord server now. That's fun. Ben and I pop in there quite a bit, right? Yeah. And, uh,
01:57:07
Speaker
It's an, it's like an, I actually, out of all the social media stuff, that one seems to be the easiest to like use. I like it. Cause it's basically just an ongoing chat room. Yeah. Right. Easy to get caught up and we got a good group in there. So, um, got the link to that in the episode description. So look for that.
01:57:33
Speaker
Um, what else do we get? Oh, we want to say thank you to all of our Patreons. Patreons patrons over on Patreon who are the ones who have been interacting with us on this live stream because, uh, you know, Ben, the only way to get the live streams when we record these episodes is by being a patron. So, um, you know, we got some other bonuses. We got a bonus episodes. And of course we had our awesome zoom calls.
01:58:04
Speaker
How late did you guys end up going on this last one? I had to bow out after about five and a half hours. Um, I think it was until like one or so. Oh, you guys went a whole other hour or so. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was almost two hours. God damn. Yeah. So it's a good time.
01:58:28
Speaker
Well, that's the thing. It's a, it's a party. It's a blast. When we do those zoom calls, uh, we always end up hanging out for hours and hours and it's so much fun. The time fucking flies by. It's good to do during quarantine when you got nothing else going on. Oh yeah. Especially now winters here, off season quarantine. It's good time for it. And I think we're going to have a special guest join us for our
01:58:59
Speaker
December one. So that'll be fun, but that will have already happened by the time this episode's out. So, you know, Hey, whatever. January will be coming very soon and we'll have another one coming up. And now you know what? We dropped this the right time. Cause now we have our new theme music too.
01:59:30
Speaker
But, yeah, back to what I was saying. Patreon, all the fine folks over there. We also do a cool thing for all of our awesome patrons, which is give shouts right here on the show. So, Ben, I put the list of our patrons in the chat there. So why don't you go ahead and give shouts to everybody? All right, let me zoom in ultra fine so I can
02:00:01
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My screen's still a little fucked up. Oh, shit. All right. So if I miss any, give me it, let me know. So we got a Mystic Drew, Gabriel Ludwis, Whiskey. By the way, I can't read your names fully, so sorry if I fuck it up. Nathan Slater, Brian Lewis, Joshua Knight, Lan Lewis. We got Scott. It's cut off for some reason.
02:00:33
Speaker
Scott Levine, Mikey Mayo, Michael Muldoon, Tristan Cox, Dominic B, Stefan Feinberg, Daniel Puckett, Nathan Hart, Jonathan Hawkins, Jared Mullen, Brandon Carter, and Ryan Schumacher. So thank you patrons.
02:00:54
Speaker
Absolutely. And thank you guys so much. We appreciate it. And we want to give a special thank you to our executive producer, Logan and Logan's the man. Shouts to him and go check out his podcast, Prairie Coasting.
02:01:19
Speaker
I know they're doing a whole series about Canadian coasters, which has got to be tricky when it's the off season and a pandemic and Logan doesn't even live near coasters. So big ups to him for being able to host a coaster podcast, despite all of that. Yeah, for sure. All right. Well, we got anything else, Ben? Um.
02:01:50
Speaker
I think that's it. It's Christmas. So have a. Just have a good holiday. Be safe. Yes, definitely be safe. You make wise and safe choices. Be considerate to others. Don't eat ass with strangers.
02:02:21
Speaker
Yep. Avoid parties. In that order. And definitely avoid parties where you might end up eating strangers ass. Don't lick toilet seats either. Oh God. Yeah. No, don't do that. Unless you're immediately going to follow it up with the tide pod challenge.
02:02:52
Speaker
And then you might as well just follow it up with the bleach challenge. Yeah. But before you do that, do that cinnamon challenge, wash it down with some bleach and a tide pod. No, don't do any of those things. Not for real.
02:03:14
Speaker
Cause jokes. All right. Let's bounce the fuck out of here. It's Christmas. We got some food to eat or video games to play or people to talk to you or screens. Yeah. Screens and movies. Go watch home alone. Let's all go watch home alone. How about that? It's Christmas.
02:03:42
Speaker
I'll go watch America's Thrills and or the second one, America's Greatest Coaster Thrills 2. Yeah, we'll still go on. It's on. It's on the nobles right now. Oh, nice. We'll have to do another episode on that one, but let's wrap this one up, Ben. All right. Thank you all so much for listening.
02:04:11
Speaker
Merry Christmas if you celebrated happy holidays to everyone, regardless of which happy, uh, which happy, which holiday it is, or whatever you believe. Or maybe you don't even celebrate any holidays, but I hope you're having an enjoyable festival, uh, festive time of year. But regardless, thank you so much for listening. And until next time, your favorite coaster.