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Creeps Come Out at Night and in Anime?
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This week we are discussing some of the characters that creep us out in anime! Clearly they have a role in some of our favorites, but do they have to be so creepy?
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Introduction to Meloninjas Podcast
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Every story, every battle, every model, every child, every dream, every team, it don't matter if you proud, gotta bleed for it Yeah, nigga, gotta bleed for it
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See my ancestors from Manchester to now I've been to underground stories Since niggas was underground we them black ninjas Who making our mamas proud better tune in nigga We taking it all around it's the meloninjas So go and tell the fam we need better figures And we don't fuck with Uncle Sam better get the picture These black hands make black bands And I'll be the greatest nigga like the last dance meloninjas
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Speaker
Hello, everybody. I'm one of your hosts, Kawan, along with Emerson and Alex. And we are the Melon Ninjas. We talk all things anime. We are experts, just very passionate anime fans.
Creepiest Characters in Anime
00:01:11
Speaker
Happy to give our opinions and perspectives. Today, we are talking about the creepiest characters in anime. And so to start off our conversation, I'm going to toss the ball to Emerson. Oh, man. Peace.
00:01:26
Speaker
Alright, so there's a bunch of characters that are kind of creepy to me in anime, but I also think that creepy depends on, like, that person, right? I think there's very few things that are subjectively creepy, but, I mean, objectively creepy, but objectively creepy, there are several characters. I think, off rip, this, um, the guy, Gouch, or Gooch, I don't know how to say his name.
00:01:49
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Gooch. Yeah, from Black Culver. Whatever that obsession is with his younger sister, it is gross. Like the nosebleeds, the fighting people, the fact that he gets a power up because he wants to be his sister. It's not a fucking duds to me. But then for me, also ReZero, the sloth guy,
00:02:17
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I have my list too, like Betelgeuse or whatever. Yeah, Betelgeuse. Yeah, yeah.
00:02:24
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Damn well, he licked the eyeball. He licked this man's eyeball. I was like, that's weird. The fact that he bites his fingers to the point of bleeding and then goes back and rebites them, it creeps me to freak out. But I also think in ReZero, there are a couple of people, like Roswall, he's kind of creepy, but he's creepy. He gives me like, he's Zoka creepy vibes, right? Like, he's Zoka is creepy, but you can stand him, right? Like, you're like, all right, maybe he's just like a weirdo.
00:02:54
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But the other person... I feel like you're saying that because you're not an adolescent boy. I am not an adolescent boy. I'm not an adolescent boy. That is true. But, you know, if that's the problem, I mean, I don't understand why they let this man in the game of dodgeball get behind them, but whatever. A necessary evil, I guess. A necessary evil to survive a game. The links that we will go.
00:03:20
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The Bowel Hunter from Re Zero 2, that woman that's like at the beginning, or she might be later on too because- Oh yeah, the one who like splits people open and they're literally like the bowels just spill out of people. Yeah, she's really- And she was like, I want to know what your insides look like. Or she'd be like, I've forgotten one of them. She cut somebody's bowels open and then she just goes, oh, that's a different color than I expected. Like shit like that threw me for a loop.
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I won't say everybody I got right now. I'm gonna toss it to
Alex's Take on Creepy Characters
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Alex. You can always come back to me.
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Okay. Well, um, all right. So I had, I also had, uh, beetle goose, like that, that character creeps me the crap out, like, especially when he's sitting there, like just screaming. And that blow just, I, it makes my skin crawl and he's just so happy and like just creepy. Oh, it's terrible. Um, I also, um, I also had to throw in Himiko from my hero academia because I was recently reading a lot of the.
00:04:23
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manga from it and reviewing some of her chapters. The fact that her quirk makes her desire to drink blood from other people, the people that she loves, the more that she is close to someone, the more she literally just wants to just drink and consume their blood and be just like them and that's how
00:04:44
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That's just, it's, that is terrible. And it's so creepy and so eerie that I don't know, it really gets under my skin because at the end of the day, like, is she a bad person? Because it's her cork that kind of gives her that bloodlust. I don't know if that is- Is we're going that way. I mean, yeah, I mean, it's really, really, really flipping creepy. Like, I don't, like, that one is creepy. Do you feel the same way about stains?
00:05:09
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I mean, yeah, like when staying with lick the blood off the off his swords like that, that was really great. But he has no my man has no lips to like, come on now. I mean, anyway, but like, that character specifically, like my man has just like gums, like it's just
00:05:24
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oh just creepy um let's see i also had on here um mama from promised netherland there's a lot of characters in promised netherland that are really creepy to me but the way that mama just is so poised it's it's unsettling like it's just very
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very unsettling just how how she can navigate and move around in this farm knowing that i mean again i don't want to spoil so this is a spoiler but like just knowing that these people well this is like a episode one spoiler so definitely go and watch it it's one of my top favorites anime's ever but um but the the fact that she can just
00:06:04
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live poised on the farm, raising all these kids, knowing that they're all going to be shipped to their death at the end of the day, but doing so so that she could save herself, but still also forging a true relationship and bond with the kids like, ah, like the psychology of that just gets under my skin. Like any, I'm definitely more of a psychological thriller kind of person. So things that are more psychologically unnerving gets under my skin faster than like gore or
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um anything like that so those would be the two people I have and I have one more but I'll I'm gonna hold off on him because he's not really part of an anime technically it's just part of like just animation in general and he I remember this this character got like creeped me out when I was a kid and I still think about it and it creeps me out so I'll I'll hold on that hold on that one and toss it to come on
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OK, thanks,
Kawan's Insights on Parasite's Characters
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Alex. I can't wait to hear this character you're talking about. I got a couple of creepy ones. And so I'm going to start with Goto from Parasite. I don't know why. This is really long, but all the eyes and knowing that this nigga has seven parasites in his body at one time just doesn't sit well with me. It makes my skin crawler from being honest.
00:07:25
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Totally agree like that character something about it is just I mean all that whole show has like a sci-fi kind of eerie eerie vibe to it in general but no like all those characters them being so analytical and they're very they have no emotional
00:07:42
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Connection to a lot of the things they do which is very calculated in that that that coldness just being that cold and Calculating is very unnerving same with I mean even Migi was creepy as hell and he was a good character, but man He was creepy like he only only toward the end like started forming like a good affective bond with people, but yeah, definitely I liked him too, but it was
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Yeah, I liked him too, but definitely I felt like he was creepy. Why did you think he was creepy? Anyone that doesn't have emotions attached to things and it's just very cold and it's just like they only calculate risks and benefits and just survival but doesn't automatically calculate in other kinds of things. I don't know, that's very creepy to me because that's very unhuman. For me, the scariest things are usually psychologically creepy or
00:08:40
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Things that are kind of anthropomorphized, like human-like, but aren't human. Like when it's just human enough, but isn't, like something uncanny about it makes it removed from humanity, but still kind of posing as human. It's very uncomfortable for me. I don't know. I don't like it. That's super fair. I mean, I kind of liked him for that reason, though. I like that he wasn't clouded by human judgment and
00:09:05
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He wasn't thinking about any like emotional attachments to anyone. Even stating like, I saved your life not because I care about you, but because you're my host. Like, things like that. I kind of appreciated the realism. Yeah, it really is a very interesting perspective. Like I appreciated the perspective, but doesn't make it any less creepy for me.
00:09:24
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Yeah, because he ate his arm. That's at the most fundamental level. You ate my arm. You are disgusted with me. I want my arm back, not with a face on it. Hey, hey, hey, hey. You don't want to alienate any carnivores. What you mean alienate himself, Miguel?
00:09:48
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he poured a symbiotic relationship because he had to. Because he ate my arm. You didn't have to eat my arm. You could have just died, to be honest. He also didn't have to save your life when you got stabbed through the
Evolution of Parasitic Relationships in Anime
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heart. Yeah, I wouldn't have got stabbed through the heart, though, if I wasn't fucking with you in the first place.
00:10:07
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I think the more creative description was parasitic, but then it definitely grew into more of a symbiotic, but I would say it definitely started as parasitic. Right. At the fundamental level, all of them are creepy, all of them are parasites. My man wanted to eat his brain and just couldn't because our character just for that didn't happen, but if he could, that was definitely instinct number one. Yeah.
00:10:32
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Oh, I got another one. So another really creepy character. So y'all remember this most recent season of Fire Force when Benimaru fought the Holy Soul Shadow, like the church's assassination squad or whatever? Yeah. So the leader of that, because when you saw a joke with backstory, that shit, like, that was crazy. Yeah, I was fucked up. So with the stars in his eyes, that character creeped the hell out with the stars in his eyes. Oh, I'm talking about anyone.
00:11:03
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I'm sorry? When you talk about the guy from season one, right? Alex, the one with the stars in his eyes? The one who was really passionate and would get up in that one little kid's face, like the little kid who was also one of the primordial flame people, holders. Oh, that's a different guy. Yeah. Well, I'll wait until you guys get there. What were you saying, Kalon?
00:11:26
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I was talking about the, so in season two, they invaded the Holy Soul Temple at one point. They fought the leader of the Temple's assassination squad, that one dude with the blonde hair and like the creepy eyes and shit.
00:11:41
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Like he gives off like Yamamoto vibes, but like chaotic evil Yamamoto vibes. Remember he like beating the shit out of Joker when he was a kid. No, no, that was creepy. He was like a creepy Ken doll. Oh no, that dude was so creepy. He had like, I touch little kid vibes. Yeah, he did. It was bad. Like, I would just say that.
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Yeah, that he definitely gave off like rapey vibes. I was not a fan. I completely agree. That guy was so creepy. Fire Force had a couple of creepy characters because I know you were talking about that one guy from season one, weren't you Alex?
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Yeah, I mean, I don't remember the seasons, I'm being honest, because I kind of binged everything. But to me, he was creepy because he got into that, he bled into that kid's psyche to the point where he didn't know how to be normal. He constantly felt like he had to be passionate and dig harder, dig deeper, be a good kid. And the fact that he kind of popped up in his thoughts when he was just trying, even after he died, he was haunting him. That was really creepy.
00:12:48
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Yeah. That's like a good anime representation of just the baggage people carry from negative relationships and stuff. Yeah, I can't disagree with that. Folkshow.
00:13:06
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It was still creepy. Yeah. No, but the person I was thinking about was that one guy that picks on kids, he had like an ash power. Yeah, the ash power. I know exactly what you're talking about. I don't remember his name, though. I'm out to it. Corona, you eat you room? Yeah. That motherfucker had issues. Bro, serious issues. Like, man's was legit a snake. And he's dumb strong too, but like,
00:13:34
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But his reasoning, his reasoning for it all though, made no sense. But it was crazy how like the writers made it help the story. Like how he wanted to make sure that, you know, that the kids stay weak. He didn't want kids to become strong.
00:13:53
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Yeah, that was really I mean, his reasoning in psyche was very uncomfortable. I don't know what it is about it, but something about it like kids should stay weak, stay weak, but like that was supposed to be good. It did not work for me. It didn't work for me. And the other thing was that like, he remember, like, I think every time he uses power, the more he like hurt his body.
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Yeah, so it was just kind of weird that you will put yourself through that in order to justify this cause or make sure kids stay weak. It was weird, man. It's an addiction, dude. It had to be. There's just no way. Definitely.
00:14:43
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I'm trying to think of another creepy, creepy character. Go ahead. Oh no, I was going to say it's not a specific character, but in general, Attack on Titan, any of the Titans that don't have any
Quality of Latest Season's Animation
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intelligence. They can't think for themselves.
00:15:04
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They all look super cute. We agree. The mindless titans are flipping scary. What? Yes, they are. The mindless titans are terrifying because they have that blank stare. They look all dopey and the way they turn around like that and just mindlessly beat and kill people. I remember when I was, the first time I saw that, how eerie that was for me. At this point, I'm a little desensitized to it because we've seen so many seasons of it.
00:15:32
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But at the beginning, that was so uncomfortable. I didn't know what was going on, but I knew that they were humanoid. But like I said, anything humanoid that isn't quite human, it goes to that uncanny valley for me. And that was very creepy. And the way that the artist, the mangaka, draws their teeth when they would eat people in slow motion like that, I don't like it. Very creepy.
00:15:59
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Speaking of Attack, did you get a chance to look at Attack on Titan's animation Emerson and develop your thoughts for the season four animation? Yeah, I've been watching. I've been up. I rewatched the last episode. Maybe I'm too enveloped in the story. I'm not seeing a fall off on the animation personally.
00:16:20
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That's what I'm saying. But I will let you tell the people, Kawan, of your life. Because the thing is, I don't want to make this statement, and I'm wrong. That's why I asked you first for clarification. Because I really feel like the animation for this season is lacking compared to the first three seasons.
00:16:40
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I mean, the story is good and I'm happy about what's happening, so I disregard it. But I definitely feel like this season has presented a deficit in terms of animation quality. At least in my opinion, I could be wrong. Maybe I'm just tripping.
00:16:57
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I'm sorry I was gonna say that's the collective opinion I do think most people would agree that the animation quality dropped off but for my personal feeling I agree with Emerson I've only seen two episodes so I really need to catch up and but the first two episodes I saw were like straight fire to me and I didn't see a drop-off in fact I personally thought that the
00:17:17
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the way that they use the 3D animation like the 3D models and things I thought it was pretty good looking I thought it looked better than y'all remember like that one season where the with the colossal titan when it was attacking like the very first like in season one or two that the colossal titan looked abysmal but I feel like now it looks a lot better like they they cleaned up the 3D models of things and it looks a lot better so that's my opinion so I also the whole spin through some shit that boy been through some shit he seen some shit
00:17:46
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And that's what you're seeing now. Right. I have to agree with you, Alex. So the colossal Titan, they did do a good job. I will give them kudos today. I think he looks better. However, the Warhammer Titan,
00:18:00
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Ugly. I mean, the way the jaw titan looks is OK, but just the way the animation plays out, I don't like it. Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. You're saying the visual aesthetic of the war hammer titan is ugly? Yes. Is that the end of the critique on the war hammer titan? Because the war hammer titan turned the fuck up. No, no, no, no. Yeah, like the war hammer titan, if we're talking about pure fighting ability, the war hammer titan, without question, is a beast, monster.
00:18:28
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I'm just saying the way it was presented, it's like I enjoy the food on my plate. This is honestly me just kind of bitching if I'm being honest. I enjoy the food on my plate, but it could have been presented in a much neater and cleaner way instead of just jumping sit on the plate. You know what I mean?
00:18:45
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Look, aesthetics matter, right? You get points for, what's it called? Points for plating? Yeah, like I'm pretty sure five star restaurants charge you more money and half of that shit is just because they plated it real specialized.
00:19:00
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Yeah, well, if I'm being honest, that's part of the reason I can't get into one piece. It just really, I'm really not a fond of that animation style, man. And it's hard to get into.
Power Scaling in Black Clover
00:19:11
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So I can- Oh, the story. The story is so good. No, the world is so vast and like the mangaka is so good and the writing is good and all that. But like, I cannot get past like Luffy and the way he looked. So- I think if you went and watched The War,
00:19:30
Speaker
at Marine Ford, you might change your opinion on Lucy. You might not even care how he looks anymore after you see what that man's been through. Yeah, but listen, y'all recommended that I go and watch The Seven Deadly Sins, and I was really not team Seven Deadly Sins at all until season like the whole first season could be thrown away. The second season is getting a little bit better, but that whole first season of Seven Deadly Sins is garbage.
00:19:54
Speaker
First of all, this lander, oh my gosh. I'm not here for this today. You are all one. Meliodas? Meliodas has never done a single thing wrong in his life, except for, you know, take out a whole stadium or whatever city. Meliodas was absent all season one. You don't even learn. Meliodas is who he hasn't, he doesn't even show his power at all season one. I don't know. What I approve of, because when you have a character that OP,
00:20:24
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You don't need to show them the whole time. But is he though? See, you're not that deep in. You don't know how OP this man is. This man is OP. Yeah, he's pretty OP. Well, one day I'll be there. I haven't seen season three or four, so it's fine. I mean, if we're being honest, I kind of like the power scaling in Seven Deadly Citizens. Because the OP characters still have like, they can still get their car punched by somebody.
00:20:51
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I kind of enjoyed that. I like that kind of stuff too. The balance. I feel like that's what makes the Black Clover universe really good because they're pretty good about any character on any day can trump. There's always a character whose magical ability or whatever can trump a different character or someone's arcane ability can
00:21:11
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Trump, even if they're weaker, their particular type of magic is useful against this other kind of magic. So it's really good. I agree. I like that kind of scaling. Absolutely. Yeah. But anyway, creepiest characters.
Dio's Obsession in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
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We went a little off track. Oh, no, you got it, Quan. Oh, no, you got it. Oh, I was going to do Dio from JoJo Bizarro's Adventure.
00:21:42
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I like Dio first and foremost. I like him. I was going to say that, but to me, there's just something crazy, creepy about his obsession with the Joe Taros and that whole Joe Starr family. But also the fact that this man willingly cut off his head and put it onto the body of his arch rival. It's kind of crazy to me.
00:22:07
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I like, it's crazy creepy to me. I was like, I can't see myself. Granted now it is important to note that he had to do it to survive, but still it is weird as hell. And I think that's like super bizarre. Uh, and it took me a while to get past that before I continued watching the next season. Yeah, no, I haven't, I haven't seen it. So I don't really have a imprint on that one.
00:22:35
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Well, I feel like no, no creepy, well, I wasn't, well, Quan, do you have anything to say about that character? I don't know what you got. No, not really, to be honest. Well, I feel like you can't comment on a creepy character, Grant, without bringing up Shao Tucker from Fullmetal Alchemist. Oh, I forgot about him. So you're just going to bring up a man that was the parent of the year. If you wanted to be a provider,
00:23:05
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Oh my gosh. I can take a nap. I can go sleep. Yeah. Kindly. Kindly.
00:23:18
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You know, Shao Tucker though, my friends, oh my gosh. Like it made me turn, like when I, I don't know how old I was, I think it might've been a middle school, I'm not even sure, but when that, maybe like beginning of high school, but when that, when I first saw this man, it made me turn the show off for like a year. That was so creepy when we figured out what he did to his daughter. Oh my God. You didn't care what he did to his wife? I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't, I mean.
00:23:49
Speaker
Terrible. Terrible. Now, of course, we'll have to offer this with chalk full of creepy characters or just creepy entities, I'll say. I was about to say envy. Envy is creepy as hell to me. Oh, hell yeah. So creepy. I mean, envy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, no, no, no. But Shao Tucker, man, like, oh, my gosh. So creepy. And that he saw nothing wrong with it. Just a straight sociopath.
00:24:20
Speaker
Amen. He was in the pursuit of science. Did you guys think, I mean, I kind of also found, um, I also found father very creepy. I didn't really have an opinion on father, honestly. Oh, actually that's a lie. That's a lie. Because which one is the, um, is it greed? The one that kept disobeying him? I think it is greed.
00:24:45
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Yeah, I did think he was creepy when you found out how many times he killed Greed and remade him. Yeah. Oh my God, yeah. Especially the process of doing that. I was like, oh my goodness. Yeah, no. That show, or the first time that they conjured their mother when she came out that well, or the gates. Oh my God. The pile of flesh that was just just writhing around.
00:25:17
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So the thing that always bothered me about that, that whole, not just that scene, but like the whole like concept behind it, was remember like they in order to learn the alchemy, like they were doing all their research. I'm confused as to how come none of the books that they saw mentioned that it can't be it's not possible. Like you can't bring back someone from the dead. Well, I don't think it's explicitly
00:25:45
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said that. I don't know. I don't feel like we know that it said it. You couldn't do it because I felt like they were so motivated that even if they read that, they probably would have still tried it. They weren't having it. I think they were trying to come hell or high water because I also thought they got kind of cocky.
00:26:03
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they were smart and they knew what they were doing and they've been able to do really all the other kinds of alchemy they've wanted. So they were like, why not? I think it was also very formally referred to as forbidden, right? I don't know if it was considered, I don't know if anywhere in the text that it was not possible, but I do know that I'm pretty sure it said that it was forbidden and they just didn't care.
00:26:25
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No, that's fair because I was thinking of like their teacher and you remember like their teacher tried it and she was a grown woman when she tried it. At least I'm assuming she was a grown woman when she tried it because of her baby. Yeah. But like, so maybe it did just say forbidden and they didn't explain that it's not possible. I wouldn't necessarily, I mean, I don't know why you would, why there'd be books about it at all if it wasn't possible. I feel like they, it was just like forbidden. I don't know.
00:26:51
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It just makes me feel like if you know it's not possible, you should probably put it in writing. Otherwise, you're just going to subject people to the same torture that you've been through. Yeah, why publish a book that says, by the way, forbidden, or this isn't possible. How to do this opens book page one, this isn't how to do this. Oh, man, that's funny. Hey, random one, because this is kind of crazy. I don't like
00:27:19
Speaker
judging people by appearances, but Ryuk from Death Note?
Creepy Elements in Death Note and Kakegurui
00:27:24
Speaker
Oh, yes. He's creepy. He creeps me the fuck out. Yes. Oh my gosh, Ryuk. See, like, I kind of, I kind of fucks with him though a little bit. Like, he's kind of sexy, like a little bit. What? No, but like, he is just a little bit, you know? Like, he's a little, he's a little dark, but also kind of like twisty, you know? Alex, you have very risque taste.
00:27:46
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There is a polite way of putting it, good brother. Risky as fuck. Listen, I mean, you know, when you got a little bit of swag, like, Grimjow has a little bit of swag. Like, it's cool. I don't know. I think Ryuk has just enough swag to overcome the creep. I think Grimjow is like, I don't think there's ever an argument that he's not a sexy man. But I don't hear one for Ryuk. I just don't. I can't.
00:28:13
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Well, because we can levitate. Is that it? No, it's because it's not that he's not creepy. It's just that he has a duff like confidence and swagger to like kind of outweigh that. I don't know. It's hard to explain, but my dude, he cool. He cool. He cool with me. He doesn't creep me out super bad, but he doesn't look. I mean, if you just like freeze frame on him, he's very creepy looking. That's for sure.
00:28:38
Speaker
Alex, if either of us ever going to double date with you, we gonna have to send us a picture of this person. Exactly. Brown paper bagging it. We need to be prepared so we don't, I'm not trying to be rude, that's all. I'll be in there shocked and appalled. You put me through this. We supposed to be brothers. Whatever, whatever. You need to open your mind.
00:29:09
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Not to let in Satan Okay, okay any other peeps we got For some reason I keep thinking of fire force characters. I don't know why
00:29:26
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But you remember that the lady who was in the Tabernacle out in the desert, that whatever the spirit of that Tabernacle was, she had on the black girl. That shit is fucked. You remember Courage the Cowardly Dog? Like that. Return the flag. Return the flag. Whatever. I totally agree.
00:29:46
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Oh my God, you're so crazy you bring up Kurtz the Cowardly Dog. Is that the character that my honorable mention is out of? Oh, sorry. Oh, you might as well do it now. Yo, like, OK. Seriously, the creepiest character that I've ever encountered was the character from Kurtz Cowardly Dog. Do y'all remember Freaky Fred? It was like one of the first episodes of the show. This is this dude who was like a blond-haired character.
00:30:14
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with the really big giant ass smile and he carried this little purse with them and he came over to their house one day and my dude ended up, come to find out, my dude was obsessed with shaving people.
00:30:30
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Like, so he brought his clippers and he just sat there creepily, like shaving courage. I'm like, ugh, that was so creepy. Everything about my dude's energy was so unnerving. My dude just sat around smiling at people, just like, can't even hold back his desire to just shave you bald, like shave all your hair off. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:30:56
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Guys, if you haven't seen that episode, I still think you'd be creeped out as an adult. That was so creepy. No, that's fair. That's fair. I gotta say it. I hate to say it, but I have to say it. My guy, Orochimaru, you are a creep. Yeah, my dude is a little... My dude is definitely a little creepy.
00:31:23
Speaker
He's a cool guy, though. He's a cool guy. Especially reformed Orochimaru. I kind of like villain Orochimaru better, but, you know, I take the reformed one. He creepy, though. Yeah. No, he's definitely, he's definitely creepy. He can't just be out here coughing up swords. Or, you know, leaving little curse marks on teenage boys. Or like, you know, biting their necks or like, you know, shedding your skin. That's a little bit odd. Like, you know,
00:31:56
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Yeah, I was very bizarre. Oh, absolutely. But he's still a good dude, you know, he's still a legendary. I guess. The utter disgust from Kwon, I suppose. I mean, I just generally, I'm not a fan of reptiles. That whole shedding skin stuff, it doesn't do it for me.
00:32:22
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It is great for me. Plus, I consider him a reptile, but now that I'm thinking about the fact that he's an actual human, it's even worse because he's shedding his actual whole skin. Imagine if he was talking to a nigga and he just jumped out of his skin and came back out okay. What?
00:32:47
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I don't want to fight no more. I'm, I quit. You win. You got it. I'm leaving actually. I don't even know why I'm here. Why did I come here? How did we end up here? I'm trying to think if there's anybody else in categories. Oh, all right. So I think I mentioned this once before, but, um, it's on, at least I watch it on Netflix. Um, kaguri, like it's a gambling, uh, anime and,
00:33:16
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the whole premise of the show is like there's an academy, it's a private school and in order to have your standing in the school or keep your standing maintained, you have to gamble and all the gambling happens like in between games and stuff. So everyone's basically a compulsive gambler and everybody's cheating in some way or shape. So like as you're following the main character, she's like a genius. So she figures out how people,
00:33:44
Speaker
cheat and then she kind of like just for the fun of it will make them do certain bets like she'll make them feel like oh they're about to win um like triple or like a quadruple amount of money however about and then she just like reveals that she knew she realized how learned how they were treating the whole time one of the characters midari she is on student council and she doesn't care about money she cares about physical harm
00:34:13
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So like she kind of gets off from almost dying. And all of her games have to do with death, not a lot of money, but death. So she like, does a lot of like the the roulette games, like the guns, put bullets and shit in it. And she they have one game where it's like, they both load up a gun, and they put it inside a bin. And they have to
00:34:39
Speaker
figure out the card sequence that a neutral is doing. The person that gets closest to the card sequence, or the most cards correct, gets to pick a gun from the drawer and then put it to the other person and pull the trigger. You can shoot them anywhere they want. This woman, every time, loaded six bullets, hoping that she would lose so she can get shot.
00:35:03
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It is crazy. It is very creepy. No, it's nuts. You even find out her backstory, which I won't ruin if you ever decide to watch the show. Because this is a bunch of creeps in the show, honestly. But the show is kind of a decent story. But anyway, you see her from Jump that she only has one eye. You're kind of curious how she only had one eye. And then you figure out this fixation that she has with torture and shit.
00:35:28
Speaker
And then when you find out how she lost her eye, you're just like, oh my goodness, this woman is batshit. So, you know, she creeped me out. And I had to also take a pause from watching an episode, very brief pause, maybe like two days before I resumed watching, but still a pause nonetheless. Ooh. Yikes. Yikes. Oh, I have another one, but it's not really, um, it's kind of like not a specific person, but I think Kawan mentioned this anime before.
00:35:56
Speaker
how to pick up girls in the dungeon without really trying? Yeah. Oh my goodness. OK. So are you caught all the way up on that? Like you saw all three seasons? I haven't. You haven't? OK. Kawan, have you? I've got four episodes behind. OK. But are you on the third season at least? Yeah. All right. So are you at the point where you find out that they're intelligent monsters? Yes. Yeah. The one, the purple joint, the purple girl that he saves, she creeps me out.
00:36:27
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Really? You remember Wendy from Fairy Tail? Yeah. That's the vibe I got from her. She's dangerous because she doesn't understand her power and her true nature or whatever. But if she ever gets a hold of it, it's OK. I can see that. I can see that. For me, it was her first day out when they were outside hanging out. And then she scratched them.
00:36:56
Speaker
And that right there is when the switch flipped for me. And I was like, this is not okay. You know what was really creepy for me though, actually, since you mentioned that anime, was that whole resurrection scheme that they have. Because we now know that the monsters are conscious. So they keep dying and dying over and over again.
00:37:17
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Fucking what that that's creepy to me to like be stuck in that endless cycle. That's kind of scary Absolutely. No, absolutely what didn't help though was I started watching that around when I started watching v0 so That didn't take the whole I didn't think about it in the context of like, oh, this is creepy that they are This cycle is crazy.
Unsettling Themes in Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?
00:37:38
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I will say though that cycle. Oh, well, I don't want to ruin it because you didn't finish the season yet
00:37:43
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But that, that cycle does kind of come full, full circle at the end of season three in a pretty cool way. Um, so I'll leave it at that, but you know, I'll, I'll just, yeah, I was thinking that that actually. Hmm. Huh? What? No, I said Alex should watch it if she gets a chance. I'm definitely interested.
00:38:12
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Speaking of another anime I think about is, what's that one with the slime? It's like, that time I got reincarnated as a slime. Great anime, great anime. So I think some of the Season 1 fight scenes, I'm honestly behind in it. But that slime shit is creepy.
00:38:32
Speaker
Really? Is no one else disgusted? I think because in the first season, there was this point where the slime legit started consuming a live pig. Of course, it was like a pig that could fight and was self-aware and all that stuff. But to be eaten while conscious is fucking creepy. I'm sorry. It was getting solved up into this slime digestion.
00:38:58
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Yeah, I mean, that's the that that is kind of bizarre, especially when you know that the slime used to be a human being. But yeah, I like it. I mean, it's just its power, right? Like if you realize that it's a if you're in an alternate world and every like entity has its own power or every being has his own power, that slimes power is whatever it consumes, it gets the power up from. I like to show I just think that that particular like just that logic is creepy. Yeah.
00:39:30
Speaker
Like eating something and then like taking that, using that as the basis of the power? No, no, no. Just like being consumed and dissolved into this like gummy, ditto-like creature. No, not ditto. That looked like ditto. That's what fucked with me. That's all. Oh my gosh. Speaking of like ditto, kind of gummy-like creatures or characters,
00:39:56
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Another character that I think is really creepy is Sally from Black Clover.
Creepy Obsessions in Black Clover
00:40:00
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Like her slime magic and like that gummy thing that she can conjure, or poison magic maybe it is. But that, she is really, really creepy the way that she's obsessed with Asta and is always trying to like, you know, experiment on him. I mean, I know what they put for a gag, but she's pretty creepy at the end of the day. Yeah. No, I can see that.
00:40:26
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Definitely not as creepy as some of the other characters you talked about, but I think she's worth mentioning. I think that this is not creepy in a traditional sense. I think it's just creepy in his way of thinking. Forgot my man's name, but the one that has a brother from the Black Bulls whose brother is a vice-captain.
00:40:47
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his younger brother is a vice captain. Oh, the top the portal dudes. Yeah. Yeah. Langerous. Langerous. Yeah. I don't like how Langerous like his relationship with his brother his relationship with his brother freaks me like I can agree with that. Like he's very like he has no empathy or
00:41:09
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Like he's just, it's creepy. Like the way that he's, the way, like how ruthless he is, like just doesn't give a damn. Absolutely. It's like, and it's like, where does it come from? Right? Like you had everything your whole life. Like why are you looking down on him? Yeah. Which also another character is kind of crazy is, well, you didn't, I mean, come on, you watched one piece though, right? Or some of it, enough of it.
00:41:37
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So in relation to like, language like being like his creepy, power hungry self, I think of Doflamingo because he was one of the celestial dragons, like his family, like the celestial dragons are like beings that are supposed to like transcend humanity, or whatever, in the in the world of One Piece. And
00:42:01
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his father realized that like, oh, the way we treat humans are terrible. So he gave up that power or gave up that standing to live amongst the humans. Humans hate the celestial dragons though. So as soon as they came down to earth, instead of like praising him or thanking him for, you know, deciding to be one of them, they decide to beat the shit out of them because they're like, this is our chance to get back at a celestial dragon. So they kill, literally they kill, they kill the father, they kill,
00:42:32
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The mother dies because of them being on the run. She just gets a fever or an infection while they're on the run. They don't really fully explain, but you kind of allude to it. And then they hang the brother, Dom, and his father, and then Dom kills his father. Because he's just like, you put us through this. We are children. People are, they get stoned. They get kicked. They get beat up every time.
00:43:00
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Um, and then they even get to a point where like they're stealing food out of trash cans because they just don't have food to eat. And, um, so like, it's interesting because before you learn that backstory, you're like, Oh, this guy, why does he hate humans all the time? Because you see him and you think he's a human. And then you find out he's, he actually was a celestial dragon, which is why he ate human. But like his resentment towards humans was like Langris had, um,
00:43:27
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which was kind of weird because he was just like, he was nine or so, I think in the show when it happened, when they show you like the backstory of it. And you're just like, bro, you're a nine year old. That's like, oh, we shouldn't treat them the same. We shouldn't look at them
Dark Aspects of Power in Attack on Titan
00:43:40
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that way. It's kind of weird to me. When people have that instilled in them at such a young age, it's like, where does it come from? Yeah, no, it's really creepy.
00:43:53
Speaker
You know what else is creepy? You guys were mentioning Attack on Titan earlier. I think that whole founding Titan thing is kind of creepy to me, too. Just the fact that you get this power that not only... Well, first of all, the Titan power in itself is crazy because the shit kills you.
00:44:11
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Yeah. Outside of that, the whole founding titan taking over, the fact that there's this consciousness being passed down that you are willingly allowing to possess your body. And the way that the show has described how people snap from their old personality to when they inherit the founding titan, that shit just something that creates such a drastic change in people is inherently creepy to me. I agree.
00:44:39
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The whole concept of that show was very creepy, I'd say. I thought it was weird that the whole eating of other titans is very gruesome to me. Why is it that you have to do that in order to inherit the power?
00:45:00
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Granted, though, we did see the old boy try to do it. I forgot his name, but the former king or whatever, or maybe he was just a lord or whatever. But he tried to do it via syringe, which I thought that was smart. You know, that was a little less gruesome. But it's also weird because I might be wrong on this. So definitely correct me if I'm wrong. Well, Alex correct me because Kwan is vicious. But like how even how they go about it, right? Like you're not sure if the
00:45:28
Speaker
once they become a Titan, when they want to pass up when they're trying to get like a Titan to get intelligent Titans power, like, when they become a Titan for the first time, they're unintelligent. So you're hoping that they actually eat the one that has that power. Yeah.
00:45:43
Speaker
Yeah, it's like kind of weird because I what if, you know, they become like they're this unintelligent site in like, you know, Aaron Yeager sitting right in front of you and you decide to just run out the run out and run the opposite direction. Like that's what I was thinking about at the end of like season three, where they had the whole situation with Aaron and before Kenny Ackerman in them came in, I was like, what if the what if they make her a Titan and then she just take she just chases like Kenny, then they're not going to have the founding Titan.
00:46:12
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Yeah, and that could happen. Like that doesn't, there's nothing stopping that from happening. I mean, their whole, I mean, admittedly they are, like because they're mindless titans, they have, like it's their, like their inherent, like ability or whatever, not ability, but their inherent, like, I guess, what's the right word? Instinct is to just consume until they,
00:46:38
Speaker
until they find a shifter, because that's what they're eating. That's that ravenous hunger they have, is to constantly just look for the host or the ability to switch back and forth. But it's just really creepy. I don't know. But there is nothing keeping you from that. And you can end up like that for hundreds of years, sort of like Ymir. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:05
Speaker
Speaking of Attack on Titan, what else was creepy was, I think it was in the beginning of, it was when they were explaining the Grisha Yeager story, how the Smiling Titan, that whole backstory behind the Smiling Titan and why it killed Aaron's mom, that's kind of ridiculous to me. So essentially what it boils down to is that Smiling Titan is Aaron's grandmother and she was married to Grisha or whatever it was Grisha. Not really like his grandmother, more like his
00:47:35
Speaker
He's like, I can't even say stepmom, but kind of more like a stepmom. Yeah, I get. Yeah. Well, because that lady who was raising Aaron was like his adopted mom. No, like Aaron was raised by his biological mom and then she got eaten by the other gracious first wife. Yeah, that would be stepmom. Yeah. That part of me was just gracious first wife, a gracious second wife. Hey, talk about revenge. Yeah.
00:48:05
Speaker
But Grish's first wife was a, was a, what do you call it, like a royal, had royal blood. Oh, yeah, that one lady. Yeah, with the blonde hair. Yeah, Grish's first wife had royal blood. So that's why Grish's or that's why Aaron's half brother, which I can't reveal unless I don't know if that's been revealed. Has I been revealed yet about who Grish's? Yeah, I think it has. If you're caught up, I'm pretty sure people know who
00:48:35
Speaker
know who um who the beast titan is queen of the spoilers well okay i'll just move on from that that's because i don't know because i feel like they i feel like that's common knowledge at this point in the show but i don't want to i don't know i thought i distinctly feel like it is but i don't want to say if it isn't i don't know i am
00:49:05
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I'm going to go ahead and throw like a really random one out there.
Creepy Transformations in Dragon Ball Z and Bleach
00:49:10
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Not Perfect Cell, but any other level of cell before Perfect Cell creeped me out. Yeah, I might do with the big old head. Yeah, I wasn't feeling that. I mean, Cell itself is kind of gross because he looks like just a flying roach, but like Perfect Form, at least he was like, you know, more composed and put together. But the other versions of him, I was like, it is kind of gross looking.
00:49:35
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Who was the rat in Dragon Ball Z that fought with Dabura? I don't remember the name in my mind or those little like those little green like imp like things that attacked. I don't even remember what they were from anymore.
00:49:56
Speaker
Dragon Ball Z, like Budokai, Tenkaichi, or whatever. Those little things. I remember those creatures. That was the first thing. That was catalog? Okay, catalog! Oh my god. But no, I don't know what you're referring to. I haven't thought about it. Come on.
00:50:14
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I can't remember. It's Faye Alex. So you remember during the Majin saga, the word was the red dude really buffed. They had the cape and the blue outfit with the Vegas collar. He had his collar open and shit all the way down almost. And it was the little floating witch that was fighting with him. Bobby? Is it Bobby? A little green drawing. Yeah.
00:50:44
Speaker
I think it's Bobbity you talk about. Yeah, it's Bobbity. Bobbity's creepy to me. That's some serious sounding. Because the wrinkles, the voice, the weird eye that bulges out of the face, I'm not OK with it. That is fair. That is very valid. Alex, do you have anybody from Bleach that you think is creepy? Mm. Mm.
00:51:17
Speaker
Not, I mean, Gene was a little creepy, but I'm not that creepy. Like the vice captain to our main villain in the first arc. He was, yeah, I mean, he was creepy ish, but he didn't, I didn't feel like weirded out by him. Yeah, I didn't either. Like, I just kind of thought he was suspicious. Like, I didn't really think he was creepy, per se, but he definitely was sus.
00:51:47
Speaker
but that, his sword's power to the safety. No, no, you know who was creepy in the show? The other captain, the one who had like the poison, what was his name? Oh, with the weird face, did like- Oh, I know who you're talking about. The one that's like headed technology. Yes, yeah, he looked like he had a demon, like a demon mask face or something, all the time. My dude really, really, that guy actually was creepy. Craft industry, see, what was his name?
00:52:21
Speaker
He was pretty creepy. Oh, man. I'm trying to think. You know, Yu Yu Hakusho was such a perfect anime. We didn't have any creeps. Shut it, Kalon. Shut it. OK. It's above me now. Oh, man.
00:52:47
Speaker
You know who's why Alex is thinking why she's looking. Oh My Ori my Ori I can't Yeah, he's pretty creepy Oh Man But if you have you ever seen Kieske's bonkai in bleach I
00:53:14
Speaker
It's very melancholic and super dark. It's creepy, but it's cool. It's a cool creepy. I'll give it that. Which one? Keisuke. Keisuke is the guy who ran that little side shop in- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My dude with the straw hat.
00:53:34
Speaker
Yeah, and the green rope. Yeah. His bankai is, like, it's beautiful, but scary. And it's awesome. There's really a hard way to describe it. You just got to Google it. Oh, yeah, I need to look this one up. I kind of, like, hated him because he took your Richi from me, but it's OK. Because he took... You was never getting your Richi, young fella. Oh, them old bonds. Oh, my God. They've been marinating for hundreds of years.
00:54:05
Speaker
Okay. You gotta be marinated. I mean, look, that's how you get in the mind. Oh my goodness. It is acted out of care. It's the any.
00:54:29
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, that's all the creepy people I could think of, honestly. Yeah, same. Same. I think we got a good little list going. You got any other ones going? No, I think that's pretty much it for me. I haven't seen any creepy characters lately. And I feel like when we do these lists sometimes, what I've watched recently is what's easiest to recall. So it informs my decision for the most part. I haven't watched too many creepy anime.
00:54:59
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Recently. Hey, and that's good for you, man. I'm happy you're keeping your mind clean. You don't have to worry about anything. I wouldn't call it clean. Just a lesser evil, if you will. A lesser evil. Oh, gosh. A week. All right, guys. Well, another week, another sensational episode. Indeed, indeed. Aye, deuces. Deuces.
00:55:31
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Yeah.
00:55:37
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Colder than freezer, protecting my own like cocoa and vegeta This is my story, pain in the glory, taking it back all of my territory Black out that berry, that sweet in the gin, stock out the flesh Deep as the roots in my life, it's the truth that I rock With melanin, just get you by for ya Laughing in the face of danger, flexing my guts in the eye of defeat I am the voice of the night, of all of my people, unleashing the power in me Deep in my genes, this is my destiny, this is my legacy Won't get the best of me, don't get the best of me
00:56:10
Speaker
Shadow like Okage, my brother, can you pass me the wasabi? Nigga, I'm black as fuck and proud of it, I won't be modest, no Ain't no blockin' me, I overcome every obstacle Like the rose out of the concrete, I accomplish the impossible Like Barack and Bakugo, yeah, I'm unstoppable Still I rise from the ashes, mama told me never settle And if I can handle all that I got down, I'm made for metal
00:56:29
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make you disappear like Mr. Compress
00:56:40
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Black as waskin, power within