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Live Action Adaptations
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This week we talk live action adaptations of our beloved Anime shows! We even propose a rule to provide guidance to the industry. Here's to a new era of live action.
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Introduction to Melon Ninjas Podcast
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Every story, every battle, every model, every child, every dream, every team, it don't matter if you proud, gotta bleed for it Yeah, nigga, gotta bleed for it
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See my ancestors from Manchester to now I've been to underground stories Since niggas was underground we them black ninjas Who making our mamas proud better tune in nigga We taking it all around it's the meloninjas So go and tell the fam we need better figures And we don't fuck with Uncle Sam better get the picture These black hands make black bands And I'll be the greatest nigga like the last dance meloninjas
00:01:00
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Yo. Good evening, Melon Ninjas. I'm one of your hosts, Kwon, along with Alex and Emerson. We are the Melon Ninjas. We talk all things anime. We aren't experts. We're just very passionate about anime fans who are happy to give their opinions and perspectives on various topics.
Are Live Action Adaptations of Anime Effective?
00:01:17
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Now tonight, we're talking live action adaptations. And we're trying to figure out if there's any good one. So without further ado, let me throw it to my man, Em. What up? What up?
00:01:30
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When I think of live action adaptations by way of anime, I kind of, this is like a random comparison, but I think of DC movies, like they just always, they always just the mark, but dumpster fires, right? But doo doo butter.
00:01:54
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They are they are Alex if you like Maybe art so to be fair when I say DC I'm not talking about the Christopher Nolan Batman series everything You just literally called them like a shit stain
00:02:11
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No, but they are pretty bad. They are pretty bad. That's kind of a compliment. I feel like calling live action movies like the live action adaptations equivalent to DC is like a compliment until you really slander the DC movies. Yeah, it's not. So the reason I go that way, right, is
00:02:32
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Because I think of the problem I always see with DC movies, and I think it's the same problem for a lot of live action adaptations for anime, is the characters are too big. Meaning, Superman is supposed to be this invincible force, this undefeatable character, larger than life, whatever. You can't put that on a screen and come up with a quality opponent for him that's going to outmuscle him.
00:03:01
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or whatever you want to give your audience. So when you swing it towards like anime, I think of like a Dragon Ball Z, right? The Dragon Ball Z live action adaptation was boo boo, one casting was very bad. But besides that, how do you put a character like let's say,
00:03:19
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Jaron or a Broly right in it. You just they're just too
Do Adaptations Stray Too Far from Source Material?
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big right? They're too strong It takes too much like CGI to take you to like actually kind of capture what you see in a source material So that's how I always think of it some of the live-action adaptations I've have seen haven't seen too many but I have seen like bleach
00:03:44
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Dragon Ball and the worst of them all, the Death Note adaptation. Death Note was so bad. Very bad. Shout out to them trying to be progressive and making L black.
00:03:59
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But still, no. Because it's just like, sometimes I think, and it kind of goes again, going back to the, the, the comparison to, to like DC or just like superhero movies in general. Like when you watch a superhero movie, they take a lot of liberties, right? But their liberty, the reason their liberties are a little bit
00:04:20
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Um, last question is because there are so many writers for the same superhero character, same arc, and all of its canon for that versus like, if you do a, uh, anime, um, adaptation, right? You can pull from the anime, you can pull from the manga, but it's pretty much like one type of, like there's one streamlined story, right? Almost all of it. They don't deviate that much from each other. Some do, but most don't.
00:04:49
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Um, anime and manga. So like when they take liberties, you're just like, that's just not right. For example, in
What Went Wrong with Dragon Ball Z Live Action?
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the, in the, um, death note one, like light, they call them light Turner in it. Um, he fell for the girl that was the cheerleader.
00:05:06
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And because he fell in love with the cheerleader, he shared the death note with her. Like what sense does that make? Because if you ever seen death note, this man went as far away as from loving women and doing whatever, unless it was to manipulate them to further his own cause.
00:05:22
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Yeah, they definitely get way far from the social material. Like they take too many liberties, but they choose the wrong things to do. Like, for example, like even in the movie, you brought up the Dragon Ball Z movie or the Dragon Ball, that movie was
00:05:38
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Garbage. It was so garbage. They couldn't even get the Kamehameha wave right. That is the simplest and most classic of all scenes. All you have to do is CG a guy standing with his arms out and then just CG the blast. They don't even have to move. Why was my man Goku charging while also Kamehameha-ing into the next character? They looked crazy. He looked like he was a shooting star. How do you mess that up?
00:06:06
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I don't understand how you messed that up. Then, I mean, the whole time, like you have Goku, like literally fangirling over Chi Chi. When does Goku even notice he has a wife? Right.
00:06:19
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never i mean they had him literally if he was like fangirling over her like licking an ice cream cone i mean goku would have been like standing for the ice cream before chi chi like that just doesn't even that's just so out of the character so i don't know i don't know how they where they find these people and i feel like you miss the most to me anyway the most like
00:06:39
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Crazy of them all was i mean i know okay it's to me an honorary anime but the avatar the last air mender i didn't even watch it watch it i heard it was so bad i didn't watch it it was so first of all the whole movie he was on.
00:06:58
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That by itself just lets you know how trash the entire movie was. Like, you're literally watching the character Ong the whole time do these things. I mean, and oh, and going back to Dragon Ball, you know, our boy, the main character who played Goku had never literally ever done martial arts ever.
00:07:16
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in his entire life. This nigga plays on, uh, he's on Shameless. Like, I watched him get his ass beat on Shameless, and he now plays Goku. That was one of the personal problems I had. But Goku, like, he is a white man. Like, let's just... Why? Goku is the furthest thing from a white man. Like, if anybody... But to be Earth's greatest hero, you have to be white. Yeah, America, you get out of here. Get out of here. Oh.
00:07:46
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But sadly, I know what you're talking about. Right? I mean, that's the only way to go pitch that in Hollywood. Who signed off on this, though, is my real question. Because the Namekians also look like actual trash.
00:08:01
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Like literally everybody master Roshi was involved I forget who the fuck the girl was with the guns and where she came from but like it was all supposed to be the What? Oh god, I never remember these characters names because they're irrelevant but the blue guy and like his The blue character who's real short With the hat I don't
00:08:22
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Kai, one of the Kai joints? No, not the Kai's. It's like the one that wished in Dragon Ball GT. I remember he was the one who was like... Really? No, not baby. He was the one who wished that Goku was his size so that he could take him on. And then that's why Goku was a baby in GT. Or a kid again. It doesn't. Pilaf, was it? Was that his name? Master Pilaf? Wait, Jesus. How do you remember that name?
00:08:51
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I don't know who you're talking about. No, I have to look it up. But anyway, I'm just saying like they they just I don't know, man, it's crazy. I don't know how they can who signs off on these things, as you said. Emperor Pilaf, that's his fucking hour. I was like, you know, it sounds like the rice dish, but I know she's on the right track. Not a rice dish.
00:09:22
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Isn't that a dish called pilaf too? I'm sorry, I'm getting off track. I was pretty sure that was the day, and that girl that you were referring to is his, like the lady that rolls with him. May? My? May? That's who that was supposed to be. That's trash. Oh my God. Who does this? Why do you do this?
00:09:48
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I don't know. And I don't even know how you make her a main character at all. Let's just start there. How is she your antagonist for the most part?
How Can We Improve Live Action Adaptations?
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Outside of, you know, you know, I think it was Piccolo was the antagonist. Did they even have Vegeta in the movie at all?
00:10:07
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Not that I remember. Like, how do you have... I mean... Yamcha made an appearance. How is Vegeta now? Yamcha had swag. The greatest Jackie Wall character after Samin. Wait, he didn't react. Wait, what? What'd you say? I don't think he's saying Yamcha's a bitch and so is Gohan. What'd you say? I wasn't waiting for the reaction to the...
00:10:38
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Emerson, what did you say? I said that Yamcha is only the greatest Dragon Ball Z character after Saiyan Man. The great Saiyan Man. Kill yourself. Actually, kill yourself. Don't worry. These are not facts. I don't mean this actually, people. I'm just saying this because Emerson and I are friends. But you need to actually suicide right now.
00:11:04
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The white Goku will save me. Oh my god. The white Goku look like he don't leave Beverly Hills, bro. Like, what is this nigga's hair though? Like, there's no any, like, oh, these fake ass, like, I don't know, little white person conditioner puffs that he has in his hair. This shit looks weird.
00:11:24
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He's not Goku. I feel like there's too much money in the movie industry. There's too much everything in the movie industry, especially in America, to produce some shit like this. I mean, well, you got to remember, once upon a time, very, very long ago, Tom Cruise was the last samurai. I don't know about that. OK. Wow. Yeah.
00:11:51
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That's about, that's about white, about white. I see what you did there. So funny. But how would you fix, how would you fix the live action adaptations? I mean, so, go ahead. No, no, go for it. No, I was going to, I feel like before, before I bash them, I have to say that it's really hard to recreate what is drawn into, um,
00:12:21
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into the TV or movie screen, especially if you don't have budgets to supply all those graphics and stuff. However, if you're not going to do this shit right, don't do it at all.
00:12:36
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completely great. Yeah, it's hard to translate the medium of anime into like live action because I mean, it is I mean, I've said it like 100 times but it is such a vivid and like you can take so many liberties in anime with the with the emoting and with the color scheme and the realism and the hyper realism or even like the the fantasy elements of things like it's really hard to to
00:13:01
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do that because they do take a lot of liberties and creative liberties when they do things. Honestly, seeing a real person running around looking like Inuyasha would be really weird.
00:13:11
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But that I mean if they especially if they gave him hair all the way down to his like tailbone 24-inch weave We're talking probably like 30 Yeah, like you it would just be a little bizarre and you know, they have big hair like Goku in real life His hair is out like it's outrageous
00:13:35
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No, absolutely. It would look nuts in real life. It would have a fro that's like shaved to have those like shapes in it. It would be so odd. I mean, so I understand that. But at some point, actually, if it's a movie, it should be oddly reminiscent of that. It's like mildly reminiscent of the character like
00:13:55
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That's
Why Did Death Note Adaptation Miss the Mark?
00:13:56
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probably one of my biggest problems is that I want them to look at least something like the character. Because a lot of times in these anime adaptations, they don't embody the personality of the character, which is kind of one of the things.
00:14:10
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Exactly because it's kind of one of the things I want to see because that's one of the things that the actor can or actress can do is like fit that personality fit into that role because you can't do the kami hanmi halls and all the flying and shit but you can be that person and so I'm expecting you to do a good job of it and I haven't gotten a lot of delivery
00:14:30
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Yeah, you can tell that these people did not grow up with the anime, like they didn't, they don't know these characters, they just got it from a script. Like they don't, they don't know what they're doing. Like, literally anyone who took any time to know who Goku was knew that he was not obsessed with Chi Chi. Like, or they didn't even kiss her. Yeah, like, I mean, he didn't he likes food, like they could have at least played that up a little bit. I don't know.
00:14:55
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Just I mean, I think of um, yeah, no, I agree with everything you guys said. And I kind of think of the probably the best of the ones that I've seen and best doesn't mean it was good. It just means it was the best of the worst was the bleach one. And to your point, Alex about certain things kind of coming up looking ridiculous, like it should go sword live action looks weird. Like it's
00:15:18
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It's like you right like you and like you said like you would see that per you see him running around and you're just like That's crazy. Why do you have this big ass sword on your back? Like this nigga saw it cuz I watched that again like last weekend This thing is this nigga sheets for his sword wasn't even like around his chest So he was running around with that shit on his shoulder watching some fucking backpack or person
00:15:43
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Who has time to do that when I'm fighting? This thing has no hands free, basically, because he's holding one and he's holding four and he's heaping what he changed. Who does this? Yeah, I completely agree. Oh my gosh.
00:16:02
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No, you're good. Go for it. No, I was just, I think my biggest contention is just that we treat, well, when I say we, I mean like, I feel like everyone treats a lot of these anime adaptation films as like,
00:16:14
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be movies where failure is acceptable as opposed to how we treat the Avengers movies or shit like that, where it's expected to be great. And so when people have these shitty adaptations of it, we see it and spend money on it. But we know that it's much more than a cash credit. And so I feel like there's no inspiration for them to really be a species of high quality because of that.
00:16:41
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Yeah, but you know what, I kind of disagree. Well, in some ways, or yeah, I kind of disagree because I feel like so to be honest, a movie like The Death Note outside of the CG around making, you know, our boy, what I can't remember, is it Reju, Rejuq? That's him making him look, you know, realistic or whatever. The it was very possible to make a to make a Death Note live action.
Is Cultural Authenticity Key in Anime Adaptations?
00:17:08
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adaptation that would look that would be pretty good in my opinion because there weren't there's enough that movie is all about like chess essentially it's all about strategy and in your characters it's not really a it's it's it's kind of it's it's not really a like a fantasy it's not as much of a fantasy plot so there was just to me no excuse for that to be as trash as it was like it was so bad um
00:17:35
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i think i was thinking more along the lines of the bleach i see what you're saying about um uh death note though you know death note one really let me down i think it it just slandered all of light yagami's name
00:17:48
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honestly. Because like when you think about like how fast they figured it out, like it was just like, yeah, like that. And but it goes to your point, come on about budget and shit, right? Like the movie was like, maybe an hour 20 minutes, maybe. So like with that, of course, they had, they had to kind of speed up the plot. But it kind of gives leads to like a point for me in terms of trying to make things better. I think
00:18:13
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And I get why you would want to start at the beginning. It just makes sense to always start at the beginning for most things. But I think of another superhero crossover idea. But when you see Spider-Man homecoming, it's not an origin story.
00:18:31
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Like, granted, we've gotten like three reboots of the Spider-Man series, so everyone knows Spider-Man's origin story. Versus like in anime, you're not gonna really know, unless if you're a fan, you wouldn't know the origin stories or just the story all the way through. But with that,
00:18:49
Speaker
you're really making these movies for that audience anyway, right? Like you have to know your audience, like your audience probably if you're gonna go see a Dragon Ball movie, have seen the series or read the manga. So like pick, pick in the right. What's up? I just don't just I don't think that Dragon Ball would necessarily count because it was so mainstream.
00:19:10
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Well, okay. That's good. No, that's fine. I mean, I was just saying it for, uh, like the basis of saying an anime's name, but I'll use another one. Like even, uh, death note, right? Like sticking with death note, you could do, you could have done that full story.
00:19:25
Speaker
And it would have worked because of like, you know, it's more of a chess, strategic, psychological, thriller type thing. But even if it, let's say it was super long, like the source material was super long, you just pick a different part to start at, right? Like you kind of give the, you could give the background and sum up the background of how we got here.
00:19:43
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really quickly in 10 minutes. It's not like you're not I'm not showing you their origin. I'm telling you how we got here. Right? So then it could be kind of like, you know, you could start with Ryuk in the Ryuk trying to like warn him or tell him about like the eyes and shit, right? Like that's something that wasn't in there.
00:20:01
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that I thought was like really random. Remember, like in the in the anime, like you can give half your life or whatever amount so you can have the eyes that can see everybody's name and age in life. Like they didn't do any of that while he's freaking out in the movie. I don't know. I don't know this person's name as he's looking at them. I'm just like, this wasn't a thing. But yeah, I just think about where you start in the story could probably help going forward with these shows or movies.
00:20:30
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Yeah, I think that's fair, especially because what I don't like is I feel like sometimes they make up their own origin story.
00:20:37
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Right? Like, especially thinking back to the Goku, like, what were they doing? Like, they made him like this high school kid that just is strong. I mean, they guess they sort of explained that he wasn't that, you know, his, you know, Goku found him or whatever. But like, Grandpa, I don't know. I just that's what I don't like. Like, why? Why are you making up stuff along the way? Like that actually is established lore. I really think they confuse him with Gohan.
00:21:04
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I genuinely think they did. Do a stagnant Kamehameha. I mean, that really blew me when they showed him like Superman charging while Kamehameha. It just it just was unbelievable. That was just the easiest slam dunk, the most satisfying payoff that you could have in a Dragon Ball moment and they couldn't even get it right. Like that was so easy. That was literally just a layup.
00:21:32
Speaker
I don't know that it was the whole thing. Just I know we keep coming for that movie. But man, yeah, between that and watching the watching the Avatar like them trying to make I think the earthbenders looked the most ridiculous of all like what in the heck were I mean, these choreography like so bad, man. But you said like what could make it better? Yeah. Yeah, I mean,
00:22:03
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It's so bad because that's such a broad question. My first thought is to say everything. I mean, casting, like how about we cast people who look like the people, but also who, like you said, are more familiar with it or like that are actually ethnically, you know, part of the community they're supposed to represent. Like I remember in Avatar, they had all these white people playing like clearly like these
00:22:25
Speaker
like Asian characters that are very noticeably brown skin, like Katara is brown skin, I don't care what anyone says, she is brown skin. So having like this very, very fair skin person playing her and giving her contacts to make her eyes brown is weird. Like, why would you do it that way? Like, why go in that direction? I don't know. Or even the other way, like they had, I can't remember the moon, the character who plays the moon and
00:22:55
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are like that character that Sokka, the girl that became the moon that Sokka liked, she they used like this girl that just looked, I mean, I don't know, they just did not, they just missed the mark on casting. That I guess after that,
00:23:11
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I guess my first thought is just get someone who knows the source material to write the script because I feel like they're trying to Hollywoodify everything. They turn these inherently very Eastern plots with Eastern themes into a Western narrative and they squeeze it into our norms that doesn't fit. Some of this stuff flies there and it fits in the Eastern spirit that I think that
00:23:36
Speaker
Goku had to be a high school kid that was crushing on girls because that's what's popular here in the United States versus these other tropes that I think would be more naturalized and normal in that fit in Japan or in their culture.
00:23:56
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So I feel like just making it culturally relevant, trying to upscale it or not even upscale, I'm going to call it downscaling it to like American culture is not it. I think they should keep it.
00:24:08
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keep it on theme. So in that way, I feel like that will enable the characters to sit more naturally in the environment they're trying to create. Because otherwise, they do have to take all these extra steps and liberties to make it feel normal to us to make the characters fit in the world that they created, which isn't the world that the characters that they are trying to create are even naturally in.
00:24:32
Speaker
I don't know. That's kind of like my thought on it. It's just the cultural relevance of the characters that they're trying to cast. And then just knowing the character itself, because I just feel like they don't even get that right. It's just so basic. No, I agree. I definitely agree. And I think also like knowing what characters to choose, right to have like having a Dragon Ball movie without Vegeta. Yeah, that's a missed opportunity.
Which Anime Could Work as Live Action?
00:25:05
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Are there any anime that you would like to see? Assuming that there's the budget for it, they're gonna do it right. Which anime would you guys wanna see live action? I'll tell you which one I don't. Attack on Titan would be so crazy live action. So apparently they made one and it only came out in Japan.
00:25:30
Speaker
I saw a preview for it, but I didn't know they actually went through with it. Yeah, I feel they only came out in Japan. Oh, man. And people had issues with it because the casting was like all Japanese characters and they weren't like German characters. Oh, I could see that a little bit. Just a little bit. But you know, here we are. But still, come on now. Would you ever watch a live action Naruto?
00:25:57
Speaker
Oh, the running in real life looks so weird. It looks so weird. But watching like a fight with the hand side, that would be bonkers. That would be a little bonkers. I'm here for that. Naruto might pass just because there's so much like actual hand-to-hand combat, too. I don't know how it would look when you start throwing in the summoning Jutsu and shit, but I feel like they can finesse or asangana, too, in some fire.
00:26:23
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Yeah. I think they have a good shot with Naruto. I was going to say Yu Yu Hakusho. Of course, because it's the greatest anime of all time. I think that one would be really good. I think that would be a really, really good one, Yu Yu Hakusho. I think Naruto would be okay. I don't know. I think that could be hit or miss because the costuming can make it real corny looking too.
00:26:51
Speaker
I would love to see, but it has to be done, right? Like The Promise Neverland, that would be a really good one. That'd be fun. But the problem with that one is- You would have a Stranger Things vibe. Exactly, exactly. That's what I was about to say. It has to be that level because-
00:27:10
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Otherwise, you can have an issue with audience, right? Because it's kind of dark. The show is really dark, actually. It's not kind of dark. It's pretty dark. So it's like one of those things where I can see them try and try and like to Hollywood fight. It's like, oh, we want to make it for kids or the youth. And then all of the dark aspects wouldn't be there. So instead of, you know, feeding these kids to monsters, they're going to be just sending them to another house that's far away.
00:27:37
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Yeah, wait, I was just thinking they'd made a live-action Fullmetal Alchemist too, didn't they? I have no idea, but oh my goodness, please don't. I think they did. You're absolute... I don't think I saw it, but I was really interested in seeing it.
00:27:55
Speaker
You know, it's like late to the bandwagon for that one, but I really hope that they do. Yeah, no, they did make one. It's on Netflix. All right, I forgot about that. It's on Netflix? Yeah. Oh, I might have to watch it just to see if it's good or not. Watch it, guys. It has a really good reviews. What? Really? Have you seen it?
00:28:14
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No, but I'm looking at IMBD. They're giving that a 9.1 out of 10. 96% of Google users say they like it. It's got 100% on Rotten Tomatoes somehow. How do we know it's not the bots? Oh, I'm an idiot. I'm not looking at the right show. I'm looking at the actual anime. I was like, what? Of course it's that good.
00:28:36
Speaker
I was about to clear my evening. Whatever. Hold on. Now I have to see live. That is from 2017. What is it? How do I look for it? Just Fullmetal Alchemist film? Yeah, I put live film or something. Where can you watch it?
00:29:02
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Oh, no. IMBD says the film is a is a 5.2 out of 10. So it's like, it's a far cry from the actual way. And the point too, is them trying to be generous. Yeah, probably. Even though you're around more like a five. Yeah, I mean, I think I think a lot of like the newer school anime kind of hard to put put into like a live action context.
00:29:33
Speaker
Just because they're all so big. I couldn't imagine seeing like, um, like a My Hero Academia live action.
00:29:43
Speaker
Yeah. How do you guys feel? How do you guys feel about like characters like, okay, like in like in this Full Metal Alchemist, they had, you know, Al and Ed are blonde, but like having an Asian character dye their hair blonde, it almost like looks, I feel like that looks super weird to me. Not that it's not, not that people don't dye their hair in other countries, of course, but like, I don't know. For some reason, it doesn't look like Ed and Al, like it throws me off.
00:30:10
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Mmm. Oh, yeah, they use white characters for that because aren't they supposed to be kind of are they are they try I mean are those characters white characters? I think they are Yeah, yeah, I think they are yeah, I mean I put it like this I wouldn't watch a Vinland saga if it has like Japanese actors because that's not what it would be Yeah
00:30:32
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for a live action adaptation. That'll be good. I think that'll be a good one for yeah, for sure. Any samurai one would be good. Like even like, even a Ronin Kenshin would probably be decent. I would see that. I mean, yeah, but again, like, to your point about like in the Dragon Ball one, where the lead didn't even know martial arts, like I would want somebody to actually knows, like swordmanship.
00:30:57
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Yeah, that's what I was saying and missing about how like, I feel like we don't give them the same level of respect as like we treat, we don't treat anime adaptations as we do like actual action movie, even though they are basically the same thing based off of written and drawn source material like comics and manga. It's the same thing essentially, in terms of the transfer.
00:31:20
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So like we don't treat, you know, the bleach live action like we treated, you know, old guard or any other movie that came out because like old guard and John Wick and all that stuff. You see, you see like this YouTube videos that have like millions of views about the training that these people did for these roles and stuff like that. And you will never hear anything about these like live action adaptation rules just because like we don't really, I feel like we don't respect them. No, I agree.
00:31:50
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Yeah, I agree. I feel like they put in more work sometimes for video game acting roles than they do for like these anime ones. I think they said that I think I was watching a documentary about how the main character who played Goku and I'm sorry, I'm coming for that that movie so much, but I had forgotten how much I hated it until recently, when I like just happened to come up on it. But um,
00:32:15
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They said, I can't remember, but he only trained for, I think it was like two weeks or something. Two weeks or maybe four weeks and was like a, just got earned his, like he took like a basic martial arts class and got like one of his belts by the time, by the time that they started filming. This nigga knew someone at the hiring office. That's what happened. Had to, had to. There's no way.
00:32:41
Speaker
I would love to see, I would love to see, which I already know is like in the process of being made, but cowboy bebop.
00:32:50
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I will. I mean, because, you know, there's I feel like there's already a place for that type of film where you don't even need to be an anime fan to want to see that, right? Because we do all these like buddy, buddy spaceship, like you're voyaging in space on your ship movies already, that it's kind of a market. So I think if you have people that like
00:33:14
Speaker
Star Wars, for example, right, they like kind of appreciate how they portray space travel and whatnot. They might watch that. But I just like cowboy, cowboy, we've got this, like, one of my, it should be in my top five, but it's not, but it should be. Yeah.
00:33:34
Speaker
I'm really sad about this Full Metal Alchemist showing Alex, he broke my heart with that. I was like a nine? What? Yeah, I thought I was in here like blown by that too. But I typed in the right things. But of course, it didn't pull up the movie and pulled up the show. I wanted to see King Bradley go off. That's why I got hyped. I was like, how did I do that? It would be dope to see him go off on the big screen though. Right? Oh my because like I think of um,
00:34:00
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I think seeing him go off, it's like, forgive me for the comparison. Cause it might just be off and it might just be me. But I think of Deadpool, but not like the comedic version, but like when he's like actually fighting with his swords, you know what I'm saying? He's going ham. I think I would think of it like that. That's real. I can see that. You know, I was thinking would be, I'll go ahead. Yeah.
00:34:25
Speaker
I was like, you know what I was thinking would be if they did it right, an anime that would be very interesting, but also it would turn it very dark. I mean, it's already an extremely dark show and anime, but imagine if they did a show like Re Zero and they did that live action. I feel like it could be done, but it would be so flipping terrifying. Like, I think that would make me not be able to watch it.
00:34:54
Speaker
Yeah, now I can see that. I'm gonna watch it. I'll have nightmares, damn it. I would be too. I don't think I could watch like Beetlejuice or something like in real life. You haven't seen Beetlejuice? No, I'm saying that the character that Beetlejuice, I think that's his name. The one who kept saying like, I mean, I need like love over. He was creepy. He was so creepy in this in the show. I would I think if that was in
00:35:24
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in real, like in a person, like if an actor captured that character fully, and I had a face to put to it, oh no, I don't think I'd be able, I think I'd be out, I'd be out for the count. I don't know. I feel like I could get away with like something more fun and upbeat, even, but yet dark, like, like Promise Netherland. I think like the slice of life has like the best route to becoming live adaptation.
00:35:54
Speaker
I can agree with that. The least amount of CG, the most amount of character-driven plot.
What Strategies Ensure Better Adaptations?
00:36:00
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Exactly. And if they actually know the source material. Or sports anime, like Haiku. Oh, I would love that. But, you know, I'm a volleyball player, so. Yeah. What about one like Baki? Ooh. I think there's a lane for that. I'm scared of it.
00:36:22
Speaker
So you know there's a Tekken movie, right? I did not know there was a Tekken movie. There's an actual Tekken movie, and it's trash. Because those fucking characters are built like Tekken. That's what I'm saying. That's how they fight. They fight like Tekken characters would fight, like they're brutal with each other. And so I don't think I'm very skeptical. Very skeptical. And they all big as shit. Exactly. It's just a bunch of Hey Hachis hitting each other.
00:36:50
Speaker
Bro, the smallest person in that show, Baki, is still the biggest person you've ever seen. It's so crazy. Who is the smallest person? Everyone in there is like Nappa. Bro, everyone is fucking huge. We got all these Nappos and Raditzes running around. Oh, gosh.
00:37:11
Speaker
I would I would definitely be afraid to see if they got someone to do like if they did a Baki and they actually had someone to have Baki's father's back. Oh my gosh. The most muscular shit, like, beat a body building, whatever you want to call it. I've ever seen in my life. I was like, what? I'm trying to think what other what other anime could be like?
00:37:41
Speaker
kind of cool to see i mean i like so i like uh invaded id or id invaded i'm not sure which one is the name they look it up but it's on hulu and it's a it's a detective anime
00:37:56
Speaker
So in the actual show, you see someone working for the police department and they jump into people's subconsciousness to figure out how the crime was committed. So then once they figure out how the crime was committed, then they go back into the real world and they go stop the crime or go to the scene of the crime to figure out who's the hostage and all that other whatnot.
00:38:21
Speaker
So I think that's a good one. That'd be a cool one to do. And it kind of gives you like that psychological thriller type feel. Nice. Yeah, I'm not as familiar with that one. Yeah, you know, it's it's hard. I mean, I don't know. I mean, because like, I think again, like I think a lot of my favorite anime is like, I love, like fell in love kind of like with, um,
00:38:45
Speaker
I'm gonna make a kill and I just think it's too big. Like it's just too big to put on live action. But I do think other ones kind of have a lane if you do it right or you just pick the right part to do. Like I think you could do a, you could do a,
00:39:06
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you can't do like a mob cycle, right? Like mob cycle will be, well, actually maybe you could do a mob cycle. Yeah, mob cycle is the closest to maybe like superhero level power. So I think you could. Yeah, I was thinking about, I think about like the inception aspect. You need the budget. Yeah, honestly, yeah, that's the big thing, the budget. Because like, for me, I don't want, I want to be able to watch it and not be so like taken aback by the CGI, right? Because I feel like if they do too much CGI, then you're just like, what the fuck am I watching?
00:39:36
Speaker
So I still want to be able to fall in love with the actual characters, the development of the story and all that other stuff before being visually odd. I got you. No, I agree with that. I'm trying to think what would be the most realistic looking.
00:39:59
Speaker
I think the ones that would look the worst are any time you're translating larger than life, hand-to-hand fighting personally. A movie or a live-action version of God of High School or like you said Tekken, I feel like those will look the most crazy in live action. But when you have magic-based ones that you could, if you did have unlimited budget, just have to make the characters doing hand signs and then magic pops out at them or CGI attacks,
00:40:28
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Am I hearing black clover? Black clover would actually that was exactly where I was going with it. I think black hofer would be a really decent one because it would probably have the same vibe as like a Harry Potter. Mmm, especially with the grim Wars.
00:40:45
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Yeah, and I feel like they, you know, and it would be fun to watch like someone fly around like, like our girl Noelle, like having her use her, her one of her armor forms and still throwing magic. I mean, it's just I think that would work really well. I think that would be easier. It would look more like the Hollywood types of shows. But anytime you're doing choreography, like fighting, that's why I think Avatar was so bad is that they had to time up all of those movements with the
00:41:13
Speaker
With the animation and like with all that with across all these characters doing this very very detailed and intricate martial arts like of different forms like there's some people were doing like taekwondo and you had tai chi and then you had I mean you just had all this representation from different forms. I just it just did not work but When you can just have a character stand there and just like put his hands out like what was supposed to be the Kamehameha
00:41:40
Speaker
I mean, that really blew me. I'm still going on that. But when you just have that, I feel like you have a lot more liberty with how you enhance your character in the background with the CG and stuff.
00:41:55
Speaker
That's true. I will say this though, I would absolutely love and I would watch only for this scene. If they did a Naruto one, and they did the fourth great ninja war, and you see Madara arrive on the battlefield. Like I would love to see that live action. It would be like the Thanos moment. Right? Everybody shook and then he just runs just him and everybody else is running at him. Oh, man, I would love that.
00:42:24
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like I'm just trying to think of like an iconic scene, like someone going super saiyan. I feel like that's been memed so bad that I cannot even imagine a serious version of someone going super saiyan. That's true. But hold on, that brings up like a very good point. Like if you can, if you don't think you can make like the most iconic scene from like an anime look good on screen, like live action, you probably shouldn't do the, you shouldn't make the movie. Yeah, like the payoff is not enough.
00:42:54
Speaker
Yeah, working for the payoff. So we just gave the industry a good red line rule. I like that. That's a good point. If you can't, you know, put a glowing aura around your character and have his hair stand up and change colors without him looking crazy, then you probably shouldn't do it. Oh, what is that? Do you guys like Vin Diesel?
00:43:21
Speaker
Oh, man, he is a piece of me. Sometimes I would have my first reaction would have said yeah, but then I think about like, so okay, I give him a yeah, I say yeah, most of the time. All right, I'm kind of, is it Chronicles of Riddick where he has like the silver eyes?
00:43:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. If you can't make the Goku Ultra Instinct look like that, I don't want to sit in your damn movie. Goku Ultra Instinct seems way more attainable than every other form. Honestly, yes. And literally all you have to do is like kind of, we're not as poorly now, which is crazy because at the time it was great, but like kind of ripped the matrix a little bit for him just dodging everything.
00:44:04
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Yeah, yeah and give him like a slight glowy aura You don't even just just very subtle just make him, you know backlight him a little bit a little backlight Yeah and get the music right that's another thing they just bombed at like Please like all of the anime show the anime soundtracks usually are bops like please match the energy Give me the intro for a good one, bro. Oh my gosh
00:44:33
Speaker
I would love to see fire force live, by the way. That might be hard, but I would love to see it. Shinra goes like breaks the sound barrier and like does this stuff.
00:44:46
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or I can't even say the sound or the light barrier really because he's like traveling in time sometimes even even in but even in universe I think that's ridiculous sometimes no it's absolutely ridiculous but I was thinking more so of him like in the first season when he came through the roof
00:45:05
Speaker
to kick that dude with the star eyes from the first apartment. If you see that shit live, you might be like, oh shit, like what the fuck? Yeah, I think Sword Art Online might be fun live, but because it's a video game, so you'd have a lot more freedom. And I feel like they have like kind of a template because they do video games, right? Like they have done video game movies. I don't know. I'm not I'm not familiar with that either.
00:45:35
Speaker
See, there's a market for it, you guys gotta figure it out. But I agree, that thing's sort of, especially because then you can kind of, you can kind of go towards, you can use a lot of CGI, right? Because that's part of the gaming aspect. Exactly, like within the walls of the universe, you could also have things materialize and disappear. So like Ichigo Sword, he could be using it and then he could just, it could de-materialize when he didn't need it. Yup, now I'm here for it.
Conclusion and Humorous Takes on Adaptations
00:46:04
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I was curious to see if they didn't do it, but like in bleach, if they were going to do Soul Society. That would have been cool. This opportunity. Maybe they were thinking part two. I don't think they got the budget for that one. That could have been like a Black Panther moment. Like you remember how when they introduced Wakanda, it could have been something similar to that. That was so epic. That's what I'm saying. It was just some dope ass environment, but we don't treat it the same.
00:46:33
Speaker
And apparently, you know, in that movie, fuck, what is her, what is Rukia's brother's name? His hair was trash and apparently he actually cared about her. I haven't actually seen it. I haven't seen the live action of Bleach, and I love Bleach, so I'm gonna make that a move too. It's on Netflix pretty quick.
00:47:03
Speaker
I want for quicker if you yeah, it's quicker if you stop like I did. Oh, yeah, good times. Well, you know, hopefully we just helped the industry come up with a better plan, a better template. We have a red line rule.
00:47:30
Speaker
If you cannot make the most iconic scene in the anime, live, don't make the film. I like it. I think that's a good closing note. Hey, look, you the boss. This is your season, Alex. What? Why did you keep saying that though? You should title the season, Alex's season. Alex's season? Alex S.C.M.
00:48:00
Speaker
That's gotta be the name. No, I oppose. It's okay. Wait, wait, wait. What happened to the... This is a democracy, right? This is a democracy. No, let's take a vote. Let's take a vote. I don't know what to do with this.
00:48:14
Speaker
Are we really doing that right now? I vote we name it Alex season. I second your vote. I also vote it Alex season. And I vote to impeach the one from the group. Aw, damn. There's checks and balances to this democracy. Oh, but you Americans would not allow me to be impeached. It might take two to three weeks, but I only got 10 days left in office.
00:48:46
Speaker
But, you know, after your impeachment, come on, don't go telling everybody our secrets. No, I'm gonna just give Mr. Giuliani to defend it. He's saving it for the book so he can publish it. He can publish it and get them coins. She gonna need me defending all these legal charges. Just make sure Michael B. Jordan plays me in the live action adaptation. Nah, we're gonna get favor fave to play you in. Oh, can I get a big clock?
00:49:15
Speaker
No, it was like Julius Novakrono. Oh, wow. No, we can't do Julius like that. No. I love Julius. He's my guy. What if Flavor Flav actually had superpowers? He pretended to be stupid. I think relevancy is his superpower, because here we are in 2021 still talking about this man. Well, I mean, the nigga had a clock, right? That's real.
00:49:45
Speaker
He had very, he had very many clocks. I've never seen him repeat a clock. I've never seen, I just, I don't know. TV's interesting. We're in between episodes right now, right? Uh, we will be. Because talk to you guys later. Bye. Oh, bye.
00:50:14
Speaker
Ice in my veins, colder than freeze I'm protecting my own like cocoa and Vegeta This is my story, pain in the glory Taking it back all of my territory Black of the berry, the sweet of the juice Stock of the flesh, deep as the roots of my life Sister proof that I rock with melanin, just get you by, forget Laughing in the face of danger Flexing my guns and the eye of defeat I am the voice of the night Of all of my people, a mission, a power in me Deep in my genes, this is my destiny This is my legacy, won't get the best of me
00:50:49
Speaker
Brother, can you pass me the wasabi? Nigga, I'm black as fuck and proud of it I won't be modest, no, ain't no blockin' me I overcome every obstacle Like a rose out of the concrete I accomplish the impossible Like a rockin' bakugo, yeah, I'm unstoppable Still I rise from the ashes Mama taught me never settle And if I can handle all that I got now I'm made for metal, meloninja
00:51:04
Speaker
recipes make you disappear like Mr. Compress
00:51:22
Speaker
Black as waskin, power within, Melaninjas Black as waskin, power within