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What a Wonderful World
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This episode we discuss anime universes we would live in if we couldn't live in our own. We have audience responses that informs our answers. Enjoy!
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Introduction to Anime Universe Choices
00:01:03
Emerson Lovell
Hello, we are your Meloninjas and we will discuss anime topics that are near to our hearts. We aren't experts, just very passionate fans. Hope you enjoy. So this week, we are presented with a very interesting question. If you have to live in a universe that is not our current one, which anime universe are you going to live in? Very tough question, multiple paths to get to your answer.
00:01:33
Emerson Lovell
I'm curious, I'm gonna kick it off with Juan.
Considering Powers in Anime Universes
00:01:37
Emerson Lovell
How did you go about thinking through this this question?
00:01:43
Kiwi
So this is a difficult question. And I say that because it really depends on a couple of different things. One, if you have powers or not, like off the off the break. So I personally don't think that like you could spawn in any of these verses and be the main character, because the verse already exists. So like if you spawn into the Dragon Ball verse, you're not Goku, because Goku's already there. so So I approached it from that from that perspective.
Demon Slayer and the Power of Training
00:02:09
Kiwi
um And so working through that, I wrote off a few immediately. Like if I if i don't have powers, J.J.K. is off the table. You're gonna die immediately. So can exist and the world is unfair. So that's off the table. um I was thinking, so my my main focus, like look through that lens, I was thinking like which verse would I have the highest likelihood of having powers?
00:02:36
Kiwi
Right, so I was thinking something like demon slayer, cause like you can train to be like breathing techniques aren't like restricted to like, you just got to learn that, like those forms and stuff like that and then get good enough. Like, so if we're talking about just like hard work.
00:02:49
Kiwi
I can do that. But if we're talking about like luck of the draw, I'm not necessarily, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
Challenges for Women in Anime Worlds
00:02:55
Kiwi
a fan cause you know, your boy ain't that lucky.
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Alex
Yeah.
00:02:57
Emerson Lovell
So one piece ain't it huh cuz you don't know what devil fruit you're gonna get
00:03:00
Kiwi
Nick. um So I was thinking like the demon slavers would be one ah that was that was on the table for me or maybe like Vinland saga cuz like Vinland saga is all hands Like I can train with a sword and like I get some cuts and bruises But like I feel like I could look at least a little bit ass.
00:03:17
Alex
Listen, listen, listen, though, I'm as a woman, you do not want to go and spawn in the in the Vinland saga verse like you have no power, nothing.
00:03:17
Emerson Lovell
Except for last season.
00:03:17
Kiwi
All right What
00:03:23
Kiwi
yeah Well, I mean a Thorfinn sister had power she might have had all of it actually she't she don't she get anything of the one punch and
00:03:25
Emerson Lovell
Oh that's crazy.
00:03:32
Alex
You know, she did, she did, but you have to be Thorf and sister. You have to like, spawn into like, a Hulk woman. but Otherwise, you are, you are not doing not no work in that verse.
00:03:43
Kiwi
Fair. That's accurate, actually. Well, I mean, I like, I don't, yeah. Mm-hmm, accurate.
00:03:48
Emerson Lovell
Hmm.
00:03:49
Kiwi
Hmm. I'd still
Isekai Universes and Leveraging Knowledge
00:03:51
Kiwi
go with then then talk. I don't know, I feel like I have the highest likelihood of survival in a war-torn wasteland, which sounds fucking crazy and um to say out loud.
00:04:01
Kiwi
um Or maybe like, uh,
00:04:01
Emerson Lovell
Okay.
00:04:04
Kiwi
My second choice would probably be something like an isekai verse with the condition that I have the knowledge of my previous life.
00:04:05
Emerson Lovell
Hmm.
00:04:14
Kiwi
And I say that because like even if I don't have powers, I'm a being a rich nigga. They go into these verses with like basic math, and then they're somehow millionaires with like swimming and gold because they understand like the the most rudimentary concepts.
00:04:29
Emerson Lovell
out
00:04:30
Kiwi
I can get away with that.
00:04:32
Emerson Lovell
I'm thinking about when you said that, it's not a isekai, but we're not it's not a isekai, but it made me think of Dr. Stone. I was like, dude I couldn't do any of the shit that that nigga did.
00:04:42
Alex
No.
00:04:43
Kiwi
But like, I'll give you an example, ah like reincarnated as a slime, or sukimichi's moonlit fantasy, or even the Eminence in Shadow, all those niggas did was use like basic concepts of the market and trade, and they are legitimately millionaires.
00:04:49
Emerson Lovell
Hmm.
00:04:57
Emerson Lovell
Yeah, yeah.
00:04:58
Kiwi
Like, I don't need power, I will pay a nigga, okay?
Choosing Powers and Potential Scenarios
00:05:03
Emerson Lovell
Ah!
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Kiwi
I can't hit out on somebody with the
00:05:06
Kiwi
but the is
00:05:10
Kiwi
So i think I think those are, like if I don't have powers, those are my go-to's.
00:05:13
Emerson Lovell
Mm.
00:05:14
Kiwi
If I do have powers, we go into a separate stream of reasoning though, because if I do have powers, like what's the power? How strong am I? And like it it just, it gets a little dicey.
00:05:27
Kiwi
If I do have powers, I would consider JJK, right? Right?
00:05:32
Emerson Lovell
Well, you are a bold person.
00:05:33
Kiwi
But only only if,
00:05:34
Alex
Yeah. Why would you do that to yourself? Why?
00:05:38
Kiwi
Only if under special grade, at least, at least, at least special grade.
00:05:38
Emerson Lovell
Choose life. Choose life.
00:05:42
Alex
Uh-uh.
00:05:42
Emerson Lovell
Choose life.
00:05:43
Alex
Yeah. Uh-uh. No. No.
00:05:45
Kiwi
Like, cause everybody under special grade is is is dog food at that point.
00:05:48
Alex
It's fodder.
00:05:49
Kiwi
Yeah.
00:05:50
Emerson Lovell
um Unless if you're like, oh, well, I guess she's technically, I mean, the ranking didn't change, but Maki is below special grade, but she's really a special grade.
00:06:00
Kiwi
But she got powers though. So like, now she don't have cursed energy, but she got power.
00:06:03
Emerson Lovell
She got that heavenly restriction.
00:06:05
Kiwi
Yes. Like she could she could probably done most of the verse.
00:06:09
Emerson Lovell
Yeah, she's told you reincarnated, damn it.
00:06:13
Alex
Mm-mm.
00:06:13
Kiwi
She is actually.
00:06:15
Kiwi
And then like another one if I did have powers would probably be like maybe one piece because I feel like you can also learn hockey just like
00:06:25
Emerson Lovell
So I have a question, I have a question. When you say if you have powers,
00:06:32
Emerson Lovell
Can you, assuming you get to choose your power.
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Kiwi
Oh, it's game over. What you mean?
00:06:36
Emerson Lovell
Okay. I want to hear, I want to hear how that changes your analysis though. Right?
00:06:39
Emerson Lovell
Because.
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Kiwi
I mean, if I get to choose my power, I'm God, nigga, what you like?
00:06:42
Emerson Lovell
Okay.
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Kiwi
i'm I'm out here.
00:06:43
Emerson Lovell
that's great um Okay. All right, relax.
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Kiwi
it's like oh I'm the strongest in the verse. I'm taking everybody power and I'm i'm all for one. Like, I'm still in everybody's everything.
00:06:52
Emerson Lovell
Oh, you'll be a villain.
00:06:53
Kiwi
I'm that nigga. Like, are you I mean, sometimes, probably, you know, we get all the time.
00:06:55
Emerson Lovell
You will be a villain.
00:07:01
Emerson Lovell
That's fair. You need a little balance.
00:07:02
Kiwi
Like, that nigga cut me off in traffic? Cleave his ass. Like, I'm telling you.
00:07:06
Emerson Lovell
Golly.
00:07:07
Kiwi
I mean,
00:07:08
Emerson Lovell
First of all, you should be able to fly.
00:07:11
Kiwi
yes, but like, I don't know. Even, I can tell a lot of things. That nigga, Jin Woo, is in the car sometimes. He got like dragons he can ride on and stuff like that. Will he be in the car?
00:07:20
Emerson Lovell
This is fair. This is true, even though you couldn't get that elf in that last episode.
00:07:23
Kiwi
Yeah.
00:07:25
Alex
Yeah.
00:07:25
Emerson Lovell
Sad times.
00:07:25
Kiwi
But that's just because they rigged the system against him, right there.
00:07:29
Emerson Lovell
They tried to hold him down.
00:07:30
Kiwi
Yeah, yeah.
00:07:32
Emerson Lovell
Okay, okay, so I'm i'm liking this. You you have any more of your process to disclose?
00:07:38
Kiwi
i mean so I mean, if I get to pick my powers, that changes things ever there so slightly. But I don't think that much, to be honest with you. i can if i have If I get to pick my powers in some like very places, like the Dragon Ball verse become like options. Because I'm not about to be no Krillin. I tell you that much. I'm not about to be no Yamcha.
00:07:59
Kiwi
ah
00:08:00
Alex
What about Sam, man?
00:08:01
Kiwi
i ah No, he he the first to go if I get in
Survivability in Anime Universes
00:08:05
Kiwi
that verse. I'm telling you right now. like That whole outfit, finito.
00:08:10
Kiwi
But i think I think those are my go tos. If I get to pick my power solo leveling, that verse might be my favorite. Because there's a lot to do. And there's a lot of room for it. I would pick the power that Genu has, essentially, and be in the system and never be able never have a level cap. So then I just i just eventually become like the strongest nigga in the verse. I'm i'm cool with that.
00:08:34
Emerson Lovell
That's fair, that's fair. All right, Alex, let me let me hear your thought process.
00:08:40
Alex
Well, when I was picking, I think the kind of what Kawan was alluding to, but instead of power, the first thought I had is survivability. If I, listen listen, safety is priority number one in a verse.
00:08:48
Emerson Lovell
Come on now.
00:08:48
Kiwi
I'm telling you.
00:08:53
Alex
I am not going to be spawning in a verse and insta die. Like that makes no sense. So like that means like attack on Titan.
00:08:58
Emerson Lovell
with
00:08:59
Alex
We are not going to attack on Titan. No, absolutely not. And no, no, no. um I don't know why you would ever want to go to JJK world. Their world is not it.
00:09:10
Alex
Like there's, there's demons everywhere. Like her spirit. No. Why would you pick any of the dark anime ones? I don't get it.
00:09:17
Kiwi
I mean, because if a nigga Gojo, then, you know, I'll be all right.
00:09:17
Alex
um
00:09:21
Emerson Lovell
Uh, Godot ain't all right.
00:09:22
Alex
Gojo is like miserable too.
00:09:26
Kiwi
He's also in pieces.
00:09:27
Emerson Lovell
Right?
00:09:28
Alex
Yeah.
00:09:29
Emerson Lovell
Yeah, that was crazy.
00:09:29
Alex
Yeah.
00:09:30
Emerson Lovell
Crazy.
00:09:32
Alex
and like, you know, chronically depressed through life in a lifetime. Yeah, no, no, not not picking that. So after, after we pick a world that has some safety in it, then I was looking for something that has like some fantasy elements to it, some like some wonder because you know, you don't
00:09:43
Emerson Lovell
I'm safety.
00:09:52
Alex
like some magic, that would be cool to go to a world with some magic or some like, kind of like what you were saying too, Kuan, where you can, like with work, you can scale up and like actually achieve whatever the main source of power is. So a world like Black Clover or a world like, yeah, cause then you can, you know, everybody in that verse got magic and it's a fantasy world. You can kind of train up your magic, you can get better, you can you can grow. So you can kind of take advantage of that system in that way.
00:10:22
Alex
um And I also didn't want to pick a world with like horrible, horrible like class divides. I don't know. That just would not be it. Because you can't control where you end up man.
00:10:32
Alex
like where If I could control where I ended up spawning, that'd be great. But I feel like with any luck, you'd be like in the third world, underground the some other place that isn't like you know the low class um of that world.
00:10:36
Kiwi
That's beautiful.
00:10:46
Alex
So those are kind of like the elements that I was choosing versus on.
00:10:53
Emerson Lovell
Okay, so which which ones did you land on?
00:10:57
Alex
All right, so I kind of had a whole thought process. I kind of had similar ideas to, to Kwan, but I don't know where I, I kind of, I'm really torn, but I think I've landed on either my hero academia, but I don't really like their world that much.
00:11:17
Emerson Lovell
Hmm.
00:11:21
Alex
so like they were up they were high on the list but i ended up going with um mushoku tensei because that would yeah yeah yeah besides the great calamity that's you know put everybody all over the place and i haven't read the manga so i don't actually know fully like what's going on all the way so i don't know but from what i've seen that world seems like a really really cool world to just find yourself awake awaken um seems like you can really, also similar to our boy, Rudeus, increase your magical prowess just by practicing since a kid. um And you can just really take your, you know, really live in this immersive world and and do some cool stuff. So um probably I probably, I'm picking Mushoku Tensei. And also just seems like it'd be a fun world to explore.
00:12:07
Emerson Lovell
Mm-hmm.
00:12:08
Kiwi
That's fair.
00:12:08
Emerson Lovell
Especially if you get to be moodiest.
00:12:11
Alex
ah Yeah, no. You always got to take it there.
00:12:18
Emerson Lovell
I mean, that's why I was on my shortlist. I ain't gonna lie.
00:12:22
Alex
Oh, my gosh. But yeah, and I definitely would say them but I had um I had some other play things on there. Like I thought like the, you know, the slime verse would be really cool.
00:12:34
Alex
And I also like the idea of being in the DBZ verse, but for different reasons, I think being in DBZ is cool because you could like, I mean, if, if Hercule and Videl could learn how to fly, I feel like we could, you know, just by training, learn how to do some stuff like that in their verse, that'd be pretty cool.
00:12:50
Alex
But they'd they'd be blowing up a lot there. The whole planet Earth kind of goes boom a lot in that world.
00:12:55
Emerson Lovell
Mm-hmm.
00:12:55
Alex
So that's kind of L.
00:12:57
Emerson Lovell
And you wouldn't even know about it, because it could be like when Frieza flew to a random-ass island and then just did the death beams in the middle of the planet in Resurrection F.
00:13:05
Alex
Mm-hmm.
00:13:06
Emerson Lovell
Like, that's crazy.
00:13:08
Alex
Oh yeah and yeah.
00:13:09
Emerson Lovell
You'd be making steak at home, not even know what's going on, thinking it's an earthquake.
00:13:16
Emerson Lovell
Mm-mm.
00:13:16
Alex
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:13:19
Emerson Lovell
You could hang out with Saiyan Man, though.
00:13:21
Alex
Mm-hmm.
00:13:21
Kiwi
Why do we do this? No, no, we are not hanging with this nigga. He can't sit with us, okay?
00:13:28
Emerson Lovell
The greatest hero of all time.
00:13:31
Kiwi
That's a lie.
00:13:32
Alex
Mm-hmm.
00:13:33
Kiwi
yeah
00:13:35
Emerson Lovell
i think that I think Dragon Ball is a very interesting universe. There are some surprise guys. We we also pulled some friends for this without stealing some of their thoughts. I think one thing for Dragon Ball, which when I was going back and forth, I was like, it would be cool if I get to be like a half breed, like half singing, half human.
00:13:56
Emerson Lovell
Because we know for sure all the Saiyans can't go Super Saiyan, but everyone that's half can.
00:13:56
Alex
Hmm.
00:14:05
Emerson Lovell
Everyone that's half that we know of, that's like half human at least humanoid. So with that, i would that's the only way I would wanna go to that universe personally.
00:14:05
Alex
It's interesting.
00:14:15
Alex
Hmm.
00:14:17
Emerson Lovell
I also just know myself, I wouldn't use the Dragon Balls for good. Like just, yeah.
00:14:22
Alex
Yeah. But I also had some honorable mentions and thought process. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, like, I mean, we, we, we talked about One Piece earlier, like, or Kawan mentioned One Piece World.
00:14:27
Emerson Lovell
There's more? I'm just kidding.
00:14:36
Alex
ah That would be a really cool verse to go into, I think. um
00:14:39
Emerson Lovell
Would you want a devil fruit power if you're in that universe?
00:14:42
Alex
No, I don't think so. No, I don't need that. Because I like, I actually really like the water. I would hate to no not be able to swim.
00:14:48
Emerson Lovell
yeah
00:14:49
Alex
That would be really debilitating.
00:14:50
Kiwi
But also, hear me out. like you if you If you learned hockey in the one-piece verse verse, you could just take whatever devil fruit you actually wanted. So you could be like, you could find Marco and beat his ass if you trained hockey, hockey couldn't know, and just fly around everywhere.
00:15:04
Alex
I mean, yeah, and I like that.
00:15:07
Emerson Lovell
But.
00:15:07
Alex
And yeah, and in one piece, I feel like you can, the world's your oyster for real. Like you could, there are just as strong women and men and all that. Because that's another thing I want to point out is a lot of these verses are ass if to manifest and if you're a woman.
00:15:20
Alex
Like they are not good verses to like just be in if you're a girl and they're not even well written. So I think the one piece verse will be a fun one to to to pop into. um and I'd say another the the last one that was kind of high up on that I really thought about um was I was really interested in the Naruto verse but specifically in the time of Boruto because it was piece
00:15:45
Emerson Lovell
Shout out Metal League.
00:15:46
Alex
no uh because it was peacetime and i would rather be in the world when i get to pick my job in my class and i could do that and have a good time and like you know practicing injured so it just seems like a ah fun world to be in and you get to try the ramen i i think that would go go crazy if i'm a girl i don't know
00:16:03
Emerson Lovell
But what if you end up like someone like Rockly or Guy Sensei that don't have powers?
00:16:11
Emerson Lovell
Regardless all right regardless of sex whichever way whichever way you end up like you just can't use jutsu Oh, yeah, yes, I do too, but like you you got hands and they got key chakra they got I was curious just curious good as long as you're not
00:16:18
Alex
hmm and i guess i got taiju yeah taiju too kind of um yeah that would kind of suck but you know we we can we can survive we can use the we can we can figure it out
00:16:19
Kiwi
I mean, hands though. Yeah, but they can't touch.
00:16:38
Kiwi
Your training regimen gonna look crazy, but you'll be alright.
00:16:40
Emerson Lovell
Crazy drop them it depends on how strong you are
00:16:41
Alex
Yeah, but yeah. But listen, that's why that's why that what they they didn't go number one. That's why we I'm thinking the Mushoku Tensei is my top. But I was always thinking about it.
00:16:54
Kiwi
On a scale of one to 10, what do you think the survivability is in the demon slayer verse? Because I feel like it's... What do you think I should do?
00:17:05
Alex
ah No, I mean, you could be fodder in that show. Like, OK.
00:17:12
Alex
On a scale of 1 to 10, I would... um Am I in Japan?
00:17:18
Emerson Lovell
see okay so that's a good that's like what you just said it's like really cool i mean i know we're talking about demon slayer but that's what i said in response to someone saying my hero academia like if you're outside the u.s i'm sorry outside japan like if you're in the u.s like star stripe like you might be living life you might not have any problems like but for sure no for sure
00:17:18
Kiwi
You know me?
00:17:34
Alex
Yeah!
00:17:35
Kiwi
That's an assumption though.
00:17:39
Kiwi
If Stars and Stripes is is a hero over there, then like there has to be a nigga over there to fight Stars and Stripes.
00:17:45
Emerson Lovell
For sure, but it's not Sugar Rocky because she wouldn't be leaving there.
00:17:49
Kiwi
yeah
00:17:50
Emerson Lovell
to go
00:17:51
Alex
But it's not, but it's not Shigaraki.
00:17:51
Kiwi
yeah
00:17:52
Emerson Lovell
Oh, man.
00:17:56
Kiwi
That's a fact. I can't even argue with that.
00:17:58
Emerson Lovell
but yo yes But I was thinking about that just like because I think with if you're not in like where we see the show mostly trans transpire, like it might be cool to be in a Demon Slayer universe and not be in Japan.
00:18:11
Emerson Lovell
um But then like to you set to your point, Alex, I think it's actually like, that's what I was thinking about, like how in the entertainment district arc, you see there's a lot of people there, but they only look at them like,
00:18:20
Alex
here
00:18:22
Emerson Lovell
Like, just feeble ants. I think he actually calls them ants in the show. but He's just like, yo, we can kill this person at any point in time if we want. Like, I would hate that. Like, I'm just going out for a stroll.
00:18:31
Alex
yeah
00:18:32
Emerson Lovell
I want to see a nice geisha tonight. And next thing you know, I'm dead.
00:18:35
Alex
yeah yeah yeah you could just die instakill yeah i don't know it depends i feel like so survivability of the but to answer your question if i i don't know jjk is rough because like feel like they just can knock off people like instantly like while they're in it like if they don't even have awareness of it they just get eaten but I
00:18:58
Emerson Lovell
Yeah. um Unless if you special grade, cause then you got to wear this to everything like Juan was saying.
00:19:03
Alex
don't know I would say survivability is probably like a three because it depends on where you're at
00:19:08
Emerson Lovell
Yeah. That's fair.
00:19:10
Kiwi
But I'm sure that there's, de like, in the Demon Slayer verse, for example, I'm sure that there's demons everywhere. Like, the show focuses on the demons in Japan, but I doubt they are exclusive to Japan.
Top Universe Choices for Survivability
00:19:24
Alex
I mean, I feel like at least in Demon Slayer, you can survive more easily than you can in JJK. Because in JJK, there's no boundaries.
00:19:34
Alex
But at at least in at least if I was in the Demon Slayer world, and if I had any awareness of what my risk was, I could make sure that I wasn't, like at night, I could basically be in a bunker um and survive.
00:19:49
Emerson Lovell
Yeah, with garlic.
00:19:50
Alex
because like you i mean But I'm just saying, like I feel like you have some safeguards you can use to help keep yourself away.
00:19:55
Emerson Lovell
here
00:20:00
Alex
Because I don't know, if you're a massive demon, and like even even if you could get into my bunker, why? You could just go and slaughter a whole bunch of other people that are less protected. like It would just not be worth your time, I would think.
00:20:12
Alex
Because it's not like the bunker's protecting like some super ultra boss that the that they're going to want to fight. It's just like, no, it's just me. I just don't want to die. Please don't eat me.
00:20:23
Kiwi
That's fair.
00:20:23
Emerson Lovell
That's what's up. That's what's up. I'm not mad at that. All right. Well, I won't. overdo it with, we we all had a lot of overlap in our thought process for how we got to our answer. So I'll just tell you straight up, I valued survivability as well. And I did not have the clear logical thinking of Quan when I picked my answer, I was just like, yo, I'm the main character in this universe. So I went overlord. Like your OP offer it, you know all the ins and outs of the universe and you you literally fear no one.
00:21:00
Emerson Lovell
Like you have ah you have a Trump card for just about everything. I know that the end of gear of the end of season four, I haven't read the manga, but like the end of season four started to bring up this concept that, hey, there might be another person that's a player in the game that exists. But to the point that we have seen in the show, you have been able to defeat every foe, every enemy, and you created these characters that think through all of these possibilities for you, and they have,
00:21:29
Emerson Lovell
very strong like fighting factor. Sure, you might be able to so be someone that can contend with me, but can you contend with me plus all of this army that I formed?
00:21:42
Emerson Lovell
Um, I would also say, um, if I'm not the main character, then if I got my side character, Shangri-La Frontier, like survivability, again, I'm safe. There's, I'm not worried about no, like catastrophes in my world. My worst case scenario, there's a new download on the game.
00:22:07
Emerson Lovell
you know like Or I end up, yeah, I could res respondn right i could re respond.
00:22:08
Kiwi
yeah you just re one
00:22:11
Emerson Lovell
I mean, a lot of the, this season made me think about how I am as a person and a gamer, where he was trying to get the Golden we trying to get the golden Scorpion or crystal Golden Crystal Scorpion, just like things like that.
00:22:21
Alex
Mm hmm.
00:22:23
Emerson Lovell
Like I'll be pissed if I have to keep responding and inside like Rabitza, but like, you know it's cool, I'll do it. um And I will stay up late just to beat the game.
00:22:33
Emerson Lovell
So I would say that Shangri-La and then you get to live this like happy life with elite technology is dope.
00:22:35
Kiwi
Yeah, you just respond.
00:22:37
Alex
Mm hmm.
00:22:40
Emerson Lovell
So that my my initial answer was overlord my um if I'm the main character, but using Kwan's logic, I probably should end up with Shangri-La because the world or the universe already exists, so I can't be the main character.
The Allure of Sports Anime
00:22:54
Emerson Lovell
So I'll be Shangri-La and I would just like play all these games, these immersive games that like really honestly seems like black, what was that? Black Mirror, that like Netflix playing with all that technology.
00:23:03
Alex
Yeah.
00:23:05
Emerson Lovell
That's how it seems like in that universe. um My honorable mentions. So I did have Mugashotensei because Rudeus is that guy. um My name, my man.
00:23:17
Emerson Lovell
my man um Black Clover. The reason I didn't land on Black Clover was because, like we were talking about before, like, if you don't get to choose your magical ability, you could be fucked.
00:23:30
Emerson Lovell
Like you get some shit that just doesn't work.
00:23:32
Kiwi
Like to do with the show.
00:23:32
Emerson Lovell
um do would show Yeah, right. Like, or like, I'm sure people I know we only talk about Asta because he has like, with the five clover grimoire. But I'm sure there are other people that just don't have magical ability, and they don't have an out, like, oh, my my actual a ability is anti-magic. Like, you just suck. like that I would hate that. Like, I'm walking around, seeing people with all these powers. I'd be pissed.
00:23:56
Emerson Lovell
um
00:23:59
Emerson Lovell
ah The other ones going back to survivability, Apothecary Diaries, because like everybody's just chilling. And nobody's really trying to kill ah like a normal person in that show. They only really kind of go after the concubines and like whoever the main character is like following. So I think that would be pretty dope. And I just think that period of Japan seems pretty dope, where however they depict it on TV.
00:24:22
Alex
Are they in Japan or are they in China?
00:24:24
Emerson Lovell
Ooh, I always thought Japan, but they could be China. um The other one, I did, all right, so I had solo leveling, but again, it goes back to if I, whether or not I'm a side character or a main character or my power, my ability, if I can be a S rank, I would love to be in solo leveling. Like I would just go on a bunch of random adventures. I just think it would be super dope to kind of conquer these these different portals and whatnot.
00:24:54
Emerson Lovell
it seems like it's a lot of training, which I'm always down for. And I would probably enjoy I probably enjoy my time there. Other one similar to the adventuring, but like kind of not because it's mostly just about boxing windbreaker, I will out it up in a windbreaker universe.
00:25:09
Kiwi
yes
00:25:11
Emerson Lovell
but First of all, we see these these students in school not doing a damn thing.
00:25:15
Kiwi
Yes.
00:25:16
Emerson Lovell
They're just waiting, waiting for somebody to say, yup, I'm not a parent.
00:25:17
Alex
Have you seen a parent? Have you seen a parent in the whole show?
00:25:21
Emerson Lovell
I haven't seen a parent the whole show. I just seen old people, old people that give you food for helping save them.
00:25:27
Kiwi
but Free food, mind you, every day.
00:25:29
Emerson Lovell
I'm not mad at it.
00:25:30
Kiwi
OK.
00:25:30
Emerson Lovell
I'm not mad. But yeah, windbreaker because I'd be fun just to be running around piece and piece of niggas up all day. And then the last one, or it's a twofer.
00:25:42
Emerson Lovell
It's a twofer. Because I noticed neither one of you guys did this. And the only reason I didn't do is because like, realistically speaking, I probably would go to universal powers. But I have blue lock in haikai you on mine on my shortlist because I think it will be dope to be in the universe where you could be like the star athlete, right? Like that will be dope. And of course, you know, I i was never going to be in the NBA or at NFL, but put me in bullock and I will be the number one.
00:26:15
Emerson Lovell
Stryker in the world. And I think that would be super dope or even high high you where I could be like, I've played volleyball, like my whole life, not my whole life, but like through high school and all four years of college, like I would love to go back in.
00:26:29
Emerson Lovell
you know, have something like that, be able to relive those memories and just, you know, travel and shoot with the team. And especially being someone that like played a position where I was undersized.
00:26:40
Emerson Lovell
So I like have a lot of relatability to the, to the main character.
Moral Complexities of Power
00:26:45
Emerson Lovell
So those were the ones I landed on. So I'm happy we all picked different universes. I'm sad I won't see you guys, but, but
00:26:55
Kiwi
Once I conquer my verse, I'll come for yours next, Emerson. Don't worry about it, buddy.
00:26:59
Emerson Lovell
I appreciate it and you know I'll be a humble servant like I don't need I just want to survive okay cool I like that as you should as you should
00:27:03
Kiwi
Why, you come with me? We cool people. You're my brother. You got to just tell me who's off limits, because I'm just i'm i'm just i'm shooting niggas.
00:27:14
Kiwi
If I get soup and the powers, like i'm I'm definitely a villain. But I'm telling you right now, like I'm a villain.
00:27:19
Emerson Lovell
The thing is, I couldn't be a villain. And I also think that's pretty cool too, that we all talked about, we all talked about powers and whatnot, and think about not necessarily from like a villain, a hero standpoint, but like, I think at worst, we'll probably be anti-heroes.
00:27:22
Kiwi
I can't.
00:27:32
Emerson Lovell
I wouldn't mind being a villain, if nobody can fuck with me. Like, um I'm gonna read off shortly, like a couple of the responses we got to it. Like, if I'm in bleach, like I'll be Isen, but I'll do it, why not?
00:27:47
Alex
um i don't know no i'm just not really like that's just like super not my personal i feel like i wouldn't necessarily be a a hero like i don't i gotta to go around like saving everybody but i feel like i wouldn't be a villain i think i might just use it to be selfish that's probably the closest to villainy i'd get but i don't think i could ever get to like
00:27:48
Kiwi
Bleach is so, go ahead.
00:28:06
Emerson Lovell
but Is it selfish? He just wants to explore it.
00:28:09
Kiwi
I'm robbing the World Bank if I get superpowers.
00:28:10
Emerson Lovell
He just wants to do his science experiments. He wants to say, come on!
00:28:14
Kiwi
I said, I'm robbing the world bank if I get superpowers. I'm rich. Come get it. Try me if you want to.
00:28:21
Alex
oh My god, but if you can't but if you can't spend the money because you're a known villain like that's no Oh My god
00:28:22
Emerson Lovell
I just wanna be able to teleport.
00:28:22
Kiwi
like that's That's the extent of my feeling here.
00:28:27
Kiwi
I mean, I don't have to. I'm robbing niggas. What am I spending? The money is really just for show. Like, with asking, buying something is me being nice.
00:28:32
Emerson Lovell
This man did say he'd be all for one.
00:28:37
Kiwi
Because I could just take it.
00:28:39
Emerson Lovell
That is true, that is very true actually.
00:28:41
Kiwi
So I'm really like I'm robbing the bank to stop myself from committing further atrocities.
00:28:47
Emerson Lovell
Oh man, that's funny. Well, alright, yeah.
00:28:50
Alex
Yeah, I don't yeah, but I don't see myself necessarily as a hero But I don't really see myself as a villain in these verses like I want to just be doing my own thing You know
00:28:59
Kiwi
Unless in the Dragon Ball Z verse, then you got this fucking monkey showing up at your door trying to fight you just because you're strong.
00:29:05
Emerson Lovell
ah That's crazy.
Listener Responses and Final Thoughts
00:29:06
Emerson Lovell
That's crazy. Okay freezer. You sound like freezer right now talking father He hasn't been a monkey since the that's kind of crazy
00:29:08
Kiwi
know I mean, but Goku really is a monkey. like Of all the main characters, Goku is a fucking monkey. like I'm sorry. That's crazy to say as a black man, but Goku is a fucking monkey. like He literally put the universe in jeopardy because he wanted to fight niggas. Nah, because what?
00:29:18
Alex
No
00:29:29
Emerson Lovell
Throwing a sensu bean to your your opponent is kind of nuts.
00:29:31
Kiwi
It's crazy. Stomp his ass and let's go home.
00:29:33
Alex
yeah
00:29:34
Kiwi
like What are we doing?
00:29:35
Alex
that yeah that was that will that's like historic that's like that's like iconic like that's an iconic moment in the show
00:29:42
Kiwi
Goku is an idiot.
00:29:46
Emerson Lovell
All right, so I have some responses to the to the question. I'm going to read them off and feel free to hop in. Some of them are universes that we did discuss. So um if I'm reading it, it's because their rationale is slightly different than what we've said. So first.
00:30:07
Emerson Lovell
Delicious in dungeon. It's like a real life Dungeons and Dragons campaign highlighting the importance of food and rest, something that's near and dear to my childhood. I'm not sure if you guys play D and&D, I play D and&D, so i I kind of love that.
00:30:22
Emerson Lovell
That kind of resonated with me a little bit.
00:30:24
Emerson Lovell
I don't really want to be in a dungeon, though.
00:30:24
Kiwi
come
00:30:26
Alex
Yeah, I don't wanna be into the dragons.
00:30:28
Kiwi
I do Dungeons and Dragons. Dragons seem, especially if you can have like your own pet dragon, like that seems fun as fuck to me. I don't know about my child, but I played the shit out of Skyrim when it first came out.
00:30:36
Emerson Lovell
might I could be lit.
00:30:39
Kiwi
like I was like, Skyrim, Dragons, Dogma, all those kinds of Dungeons and Dragons stuff. I was into it. like that That shit was fun.
00:30:47
Emerson Lovell
Hey, look, I'm not mad at it, man. I haven't played. I'm gonna add it to my list. Um, next up, we have fair and beyond journeys and you can decide to live a chill life by the countryside, or you can pursue magic with clear steps to becoming a master.
00:31:15
Kiwi
I feel like Freeman still presents at least some survivability issues. i'm and i'm not um' like This is more so a question than a criticism of the opinion. But um I feel like Freeman presents survivability issues like the same as Demon Slayer, because demons exist in Freeman.
00:31:31
Kiwi
And they really just be like out here killing things.
00:31:34
Emerson Lovell
Mm hmm.
00:31:34
Kiwi
So I'm with it, but Freeman might be kind of difficult.
00:31:40
Emerson Lovell
Yeah, I was like, am I like spawning in that universe before after the demon lord died?
00:31:48
Emerson Lovell
But yeah, I get that. I think it would be cool. and I think it would be cool to just learn facing magic.
00:31:53
Kiwi
Apparently, that's all you need.
00:31:54
Emerson Lovell
But that's ah that's all I want. Like just live my everyday life, make my life slightly easier.
00:32:01
Emerson Lovell
All right, all right. Another one, we got Dragon Ball because you know that there's definitely an afterlife. and another that's We have multiple entries for Dragon Ball. So the first person said, because you know that there's definitely an afterlife. Another person said, if you train, you'll be able to survive. We know we can because Yomtra can. ah Someone said, Dragon Ball, however, I am afraid that you have people like Zeno that can snap your universe away.
00:32:31
Emerson Lovell
Another person said, Dragon Ball, however, if I spawn on Earth, I just gotta hope that I end up in a timeline where the Androids wanna play nice. Not all of them is gonna get that low Krillin got.
00:32:45
Emerson Lovell
Yeah, I think Dragon Ball is an interesting proposition. I think for me, if I if i wanted to spawn in the Dragon Ball universe, I would have to be like some human-saying hybrid. So that way, because we know all the human saying a human-saying hybrids can go super-saying.
00:32:59
Kiwi
either that or Jiren, honestly, those are those are really the only two options I'm considering.
00:32:59
Emerson Lovell
i don't
00:33:02
Emerson Lovell
um And I couldn't look in the mirror if I was Jaren bro, I would hate it Mr.
00:33:06
Kiwi
Well, I mean, like, oh, his folks died. But like like, I couldn't be Jiren or Piccolo, honestly, because the black man got it bad in the Dragon Ball verse.
00:33:16
Kiwi
But, you know, like,
00:33:20
Emerson Lovell
Popo
00:33:22
Kiwi
okay, maybe not as much Mr. Popo, but like, yeah I don't want to be no no chunky nigga in blackface either, because that's just kind of, like, Mr. Popo is like too black.
00:33:34
Kiwi
Like, I'm sorry, this, this but like he, like he is, this nigga is vantablack, like he's not.
00:33:36
Alex
Yeah, Mr. Popo is, yeah, he's disrespectful. like they they They were disrespectful when they when they designed that character, I'm sorry.
00:33:40
Kiwi
yeah yeah
00:33:44
Emerson Lovell
Apparently in some countries his lips are purple like he's his skin is purple and his lips are a different color I forgot it might be orange.
00:33:47
Kiwi
No. No.
00:33:47
Alex
you You've got to be kidding.
00:33:51
Emerson Lovell
Yeah, it's actually nuts Okay, oh man, okay
00:33:52
Kiwi
Can't be Mr. Popo.
00:33:55
Alex
Oh my God.
00:33:56
Kiwi
And if you Mr.
00:33:56
Emerson Lovell
that one you
00:33:56
Kiwi
Popo, you a ho-ho, okay?
00:33:58
Emerson Lovell
oh okay um alex i'm curious on your take on this one um not the ho-hos but naruto so this one entry came for someone who said in my opinion the balance of villages and powers is one of the closest fair matches we've seen of course that's until they OD with the OHES like Madara Also, Naruto kind of reminds me of Avatar in a sense of being related to the natural elements of Earth. So it has this true reality basis and how strong you get it's about actual mastery. Like I could be a Genin, Chunin, Jonin, or Hokage. There's actual steps to power that makes sense and take work, not just somebody you know. You're not going to be some random person that's going to die.
00:34:45
Emerson Lovell
another person said Naruto as well, except for I don't want to be I want to spawn after that nigga pain dies because he was off his rocker.
00:34:56
Alex
All right, so, ooh. I still think I would stick to the Boruto verse because I don't... like There's too much going on in Naruto.
00:35:08
Alex
like You could just die at any time. and I feel like you could put in training, but let's not be let's be so for real. You got to be a genius to actually be any good in that verse. Otherwise, you might end up like Konohamaru.
00:35:22
Alex
I don't want to be like Konohamaru.
00:35:25
Alex
He works hard, but he is ass cheeks. He is.
00:35:29
Emerson Lovell
you We usually like ass cheeks.
00:35:32
Alex
Well, not the good kind, not the kind you play with. I'm just saying like it it just, I just, it's not like I don't, like I get, I get the logic. It's it's got some, there's some bars in there and some good points, but I still think I would rather be in the Borutoverse because also the the good thing is if you're stuck in the Narutoverse, you have to be a ninja. Otherwise you don't really have that much I don't know upward mobility it seems like in the entire in the entire village and you also have to make sure that you're in the leaf village too because the other villages was getting killed and knocked off like they weren't that safe because you had to have a whole bunch of elite ninjas in your universe in order for you to like be safe in your village and they had a whole bunch of angry tail beasts all the time no I'm just no we're not we're not doing that I would much rather be in the Borutoverse overall but but
00:36:24
Emerson Lovell
ah fair I think birds are also safer because you don't have to worry about a roti maro biting your neck.
00:36:30
Alex
Yeah, that's, he's a little bit more his tame.
00:36:30
Emerson Lovell
He's a little more reformed.
00:36:33
Alex
He's, he's focusing on, he's focused all on, what is it, Mitzki? His, his child Mitzki. But, um yeah.
00:36:43
Emerson Lovell
That's for me. All right. Well, we are about to wrap soon, so I'm just going to rattle off the names and entries of these last few, and then we'll get your last second thoughts on if any of these explanations change your your opinion of where you decided you want to land.
00:36:44
Alex
Yeah.
00:37:00
Emerson Lovell
So another person said, Hunter, Hunter, because none is super dope and there's the spiritual component too. and Another person said Pokemon because I can have all of them little Pokemon fighting for me. And there's plenty of cool things to explore and of course free healthcare. care One person said Fairy Tail. Not my favorite anime but side characters in Fairy Tail sounds amazing. You get powers, your people are all in the guild and the big fights are usually left to the powerhouses so you can chill.
00:37:32
Emerson Lovell
You rarely see any casualties in fairy tale. And whenever there are, there's something to undo it. Sounds like a good time with pretty low stakes. I know we touched on My Hero Academia. They said this one because it's kind of funny because I'm either a regular nigga with no powers or my powers suck and I get a day job. If my powers are like that, then I'm training hard to become number one.
00:37:58
Emerson Lovell
Another person said bleach because the Ampatos and Yurichi need I say more. Another person said bleach. However, if I have the knowledge that I am a side character going into that universe, I got to know I'm afraid because I know that ghosts are real and they can kill you.
00:38:16
Emerson Lovell
reincarnated as a slime. Remember Ruby living in that dream, and when he's not, he's gonna set that bitch off. Megido. Of course, Megido is the move he used to become a demon lord. And then the last one was Death Note.
00:38:33
Emerson Lovell
assuming I'm the main character, Light and Death Note. But with a reasonable mind, I think Light is a hoe. So I probably um probably want to be somewhere else.
00:38:41
Alex
but
00:38:45
Alex
Oh my god, not a hoe.
00:38:46
Emerson Lovell
Oh, man. Not a hoe, not a hoe. All right, guys. So you you've heard from some of our listeners about what universes they will be in. Did anything sway you? Anything anything catch your catch your attention?
00:39:03
Kiwi
You're reaching caught my attention cuz Lord have mercy.
00:39:07
Alex
Oh my god.
00:39:08
Kiwi
Um, but also like I was thinking about bleach Yeah, oh man, but one thing I was thinking about bleach is like
00:39:09
Alex
cut You know what though? It can't at camp front. She caught my attention too. oh
00:39:14
Emerson Lovell
Now, that's a woman that got power, Alex. That's a woman with power.
00:39:18
Alex
She is.
00:39:24
Kiwi
I was looking like one thing that really caught me with versus is like the ability to get stronger with skill. And like, I don't think that if you are better swordsman in bleach, that shit doesn't really matter.
00:39:32
Alex
hidden
00:39:37
Kiwi
Because like, niggas just don't plan it at each other.
00:39:37
Alex
Yeah.
00:39:39
Kiwi
like but like Like they don't hold guillotines at the other person.
00:39:41
Emerson Lovell
ah three o
00:39:41
Alex
Mm-hmm.
00:39:45
Kiwi
like ah It don't matter if you could swing your sword well or fast or whatever. like you like ah you You need to have like the power to back up. So um'm I'm slightly swayed, but like, because I would like to be in the bleach first.
00:39:57
Kiwi
To carry a sword that also changes form, like um um I like shape shifting shit. So like to carry a sword that also changes form seems kind of cool to me.
00:40:01
Emerson Lovell
yeah Yeah.
00:40:05
Kiwi
But I mean, unless you like, you know, Kenpachi, You're pretty done for.
00:40:11
Emerson Lovell
Yeah. Bankai. All right, Alex, what about you?
00:40:17
Alex
I would say no, maybe not.
00:40:21
Emerson Lovell
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:40:22
Alex
i I don't actually know. I actually haven't seen Overlord, so I can't even comment on whether or not like I don't I don't know enough about Overlord to pick that.
00:40:31
Emerson Lovell
Good, because it will break my heart if you disagree with me. You know, I don't like when you bully me.
00:40:36
Alex
oh oh Okay, well now I feel like I gotta I gotta wash it to see if it's it's any good um and cool Yeah, I don't know. I think I would say I would say no. I think I think I'm gonna stick to much open ten say for me
00:40:49
Emerson Lovell
Okay, okay. Yeah, I'm definitely sticking with Shangri-La, because Kwan swayed me that I'm not the main character in the universe, but Overlord isn't a bad choice. And I think everyone posts really good additions. I will say, as as as we wrap up, and we're we're gonna call it, One Piece, man. If I could be the main character, or at least like an admiral, and I have the ability to have all three Hokies, then I'll be in One Piece.
00:41:17
Kiwi
So I was thinking about that when you said overlord, and this will be my final thought. I was thinking about the whole like whether or not you'd be a main character thing. I don't think that you'd be a main character in Overlord under my reasoning.
00:41:28
Kiwi
However, I think that you would be a player, because everyone else in the show is an NPC for the most part, except for the actual people who are all players.
00:41:33
Emerson Lovell
Mm-hmm Yeah That's true, but I know ions has these tactical beasts that can come after me at any given point in time I could join him but then now he might kill me for messing with I'll be though.
00:41:38
Kiwi
So i don't like maybe you aren't eyes, but like if you are a player that started any time when he did and like played the game up to completion, you're still overpowered and probably broken.
00:41:53
Kiwi
Just join them, though. You ain't got one new shoulder.
00:42:01
Kiwi
but he He don't know what to do with all that anyway, though.
00:42:02
Emerson Lovell
I Yeah. Yeah, Alex, you'd be surprised I chose a a world where if I were the main character, I'm in Overlord, I don't have a body so I can't have sex.
00:42:17
Alex
Oh, that's that's a choice for you. that is that's ah That's a sacrifice on you.
00:42:19
Emerson Lovell
That's the choice. Yeah.
00:42:22
Kiwi
yeah
00:42:23
Emerson Lovell
You know, you know, I mean, at least it's assumed that we can't because he keeps healing himself every time they touch the women touch him.
00:42:32
Alex
What is happening in that verse? I'm confused.
00:42:34
Emerson Lovell
but you When you watch it, you explain.
00:42:35
Kiwi
He's getting a little hot and bothered and frazzled basically.
00:42:37
Emerson Lovell
Yeah, it's like their play on the whole like nosebleed thing, like Sanji's nose, nosebleed for in him. He uses like a magic potion to heal himself every time he gets like flustered with women.
00:42:46
Alex
Oh.
00:42:48
Emerson Lovell
But they in like the women characters want to have his baby because he's obviously like overpowered. But he actually doesn't explicitly say if he can or can't. But we know that under his cloak, he's just a skeleton.
00:42:59
Emerson Lovell
But he also ah probably has the ability to give himself a real body. He just chooses not to.
00:43:05
Alex
right
00:43:07
Emerson Lovell
but I would respect the lore and not give myself a real body.
00:43:07
Alex
great
00:43:11
Emerson Lovell
I'll still be honest.
00:43:15
Emerson Lovell
All right, well, it's been fun, guys. I missed you guys. We'll be back soon.
00:43:20
Kiwi
Fun it has.
00:43:29
Alex
Right.
00:43:35
Alex
Great.