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Felicia Devine: Hello, and welcome back to episode 21.
Natalie Richards: 21 of season 2.
Felicia Devine: Season two, which is actually episode, I think, 39.
Natalie Richards: Yes.
Natalie Richards: It's got to be 38 or 39.
Felicia Devine: Uh, 38.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: 38.
Natalie Richards: I think 38 because I think we had. 17 in the first season and then we just abruptly stopped.
Felicia Devine: Yes. But if you look at our production and then we had summer vacation. No, if you look at our productions, we. Remember we recorded an episode and then it...
Felicia Devine: it didn't air or something. Our first episode was like an error.
Natalie Richards: oh That's our first one.
Felicia Devine: So like, if you look at our productions, it looks like we're almost, it's like 39 right now, but I think it actually is 38.
Natalie Richards: That's true. That is true.
Felicia Devine: Anyway, but that's back end detail.
Natalie Richards: Right. the The back end.
Felicia Devine: Right. The business side of this.
Natalie Richards: is Also, it's been frustrating us. This back end of this silly AI.
Felicia Devine: Yes. AI.
Natalie Richards: Like, they changed. I don't know what they changed. They just like. updated their whole website. And now everything that we do is totally different than what it was before.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: Now you have to like ask permission to do things.
Natalie Richards: Yes.
Felicia Devine: It's so annoying.
Natalie Richards: And you have this like fake AI producer that's like.
Felicia Devine: Right. you
Natalie Richards: Oh, would you like me to? to do this particular task. and It's like, Sure, I guess, but like I could just do it.
Felicia Devine: No, I'll do it
Natalie Richards: the way I've always been doing it.
Felicia Devine: Natalie's the producer. I don't know why AI is trying to take over your job, Natalie.
Natalie Richards: So then I just don't know like how like what actually happens when he's supposedly
Felicia Devine: producing.
Natalie Richards: producing and doing the things he's supposed to do he it i don't know
Felicia Devine: I'm not sure I'm not sure You know, it's above my pay grade.
Natalie Richards: Whatever. Or whatever.
Felicia Devine: I tried to do, I went to a, oh, I went to a coffee shop yesterday, Natalie. To work.
Natalie Richards: To work.
Felicia Devine: By myself.
Natalie Richards: Oh, I thought you meant to like work there for something fun to do.
Felicia Devine: Oh!
Natalie Richards: Like what?
Felicia Devine: Like a barista?
Natalie Richards: Yes!
Felicia Devine: You think I need a part -time job these days?
Natalie Richards: No! That's why I was...
Felicia Devine: I ain't got time.
Natalie Richards: No!
Felicia Devine: No, I went and like sat at a coffee shop and like.
Natalie Richards: Oh.
Felicia Devine: Opened my computer.
Natalie Richards: Honestly. That's the only way I have. historically ever been able to get work done. is to actually...
Felicia Devine: No, it was crazy.
Natalie Richards: go sit somewhere. Like when I was opening, opening my practice, that's what I did every day.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: I'd go sit somewhere at a coffee shop for like six hours a day.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: and just like knock stuff out.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: There was no way.
Felicia Devine: Yep. there was i yeah There was one task. Natalie, I've been meaning to do for 12 calendar months. One task. 12 calendar months.
Natalie Richards: Oh my. I mean, i've I've been there.
Felicia Devine: See ya.
Natalie Richards: I've been there.
Felicia Devine: I know.
Natalie Richards: There's just...
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: You just can't sometimes.
Felicia Devine: you No, and it was one of those things that needed like three verifications. And it was like.
Natalie Richards: Oh.
Felicia Devine: It was like too many steps and too many tabs open to do when a toddler is slamming on your keyboard.
Natalie Richards: who
Natalie Richards: Yes.
Felicia Devine: And I just kept putting it off, kept putting it off. And then yesterday I was like. oh, I can breathe again. Like, and it wasn't, it's literally so insignificant. it It's not that big of a deal, but it has been on my to -do list.
Natalie Richards: o
Natalie Richards: and in your brain. for so long.
Felicia Devine: Yes. Literally.
Natalie Richards: mm -hmm
Felicia Devine: Okay. So that takes me, hold on. I I'm segueing. Okay. We started the podcast by saying Natalie has a lot of recaps. I had nothing to say and now I have everything to say.
Natalie Richards: You were like, I don't know what I'm gonna talk about today.
Felicia Devine: I have unleashed.
Natalie Richards: Okay Continue.
Felicia Devine: Okay. So. Last October, I had made a reel. that I had earned. A singular penny. Off of affiliate marketing.
Natalie Richards: That's right. Oh my gosh, I remember.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: Yep.
Felicia Devine: One singular penny.
Natalie Richards: Yep.
Felicia Devine: And... You know what? I'm not in it for the money, right? like I have a real job
Natalie Richards: Right. And honestly, it's kind of fun that you even made a penny.
Felicia Devine: Yeah, like one penny. So cute. She's adorable. I never got to cash that penny out because I never. went through all the steps like Upload my tax information
Natalie Richards: I see. Yeah, yeah. yeah
Felicia Devine: For one penny.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: Upload my tax ID. Like, do all these things. like link a bank account, all this stuff.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: And I was like, you know, it's a penny. Fast forward. To this October, Natalie. I've closed. Well over four grand. In revenue.
Felicia Devine: Now, that's not... commissions paid out?
Natalie Richards: No, but...
Felicia Devine: But I've i've convinced.
Natalie Richards: Wow
Felicia Devine: Enough people. To purchase over $4 ,000 worth of products.
Natalie Richards: Wow.
Felicia Devine: I know. So like. now So yesterday I was like, well, now it's time to upload that tax ID.
Natalie Richards: Mm -hmm.
Felicia Devine: Because that penny really multiplies. And I'm ready to start cashing it out.
Natalie Richards: Oh I love it.
Felicia Devine: but I. I was just, I didn't even, I don't really check it.
Natalie Richards: yeah
Felicia Devine: Because it it isn't. what I'm in it for. Like, Yeah, it's fun to like.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: convince people, convince, I'm like selling like.
Natalie Richards: at the
Felicia Devine: Bad product. No, it's like fun to influence.
Natalie Richards: Yes. yeah know that people that people like you enough
Felicia Devine: You know, and be like.
Natalie Richards: that they...
Felicia Devine: Yeah, that, trust me.
Natalie Richards: trust you and they yeah it's it's cool
Felicia Devine: who Yeah. But it's like so fun to see like the back end of it of like, oh my God, this many people.
Natalie Richards: it in I love it.
Felicia Devine: I'm more fascinated with how many people click on it. little I don't care if you buy it.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: I just want to know you were interested enough to click it.
Natalie Richards: Yeah, yeah You were interested enough.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. So. So yeah, I...
Natalie Richards: Love it.
Felicia Devine: I did that tax ID thing and I uploaded a bank account and, you know, I might be able to buy myself a coffee.
Natalie Richards: Wow.
Felicia Devine: but
Natalie Richards: Wow.
Felicia Devine: But nonetheless.
Natalie Richards: that's all it's about.
Felicia Devine: I'm calling myself an influencer.
Natalie Richards: You could call yourself an influencer from that one penny.
Felicia Devine: Peace.
Felicia Devine: Oh. I know.
Natalie Richards: It's fine. yeah
Felicia Devine: I influenced, I don't even know what that, I should look back and see what that one penny was like.
Natalie Richards: o
Felicia Devine: from but I don't know. I mean, I feel like a lot of people are striving to be on the internet to like make a digital product or like sell a class.
Natalie Richards: oh my gosh well that's like the whole thing right now it's like all anybody is doing
Felicia Devine: Right. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: And it's like, I'm sorry, I don't need to buy your.
Felicia Devine: And I'm like.
Natalie Richards: Dear. $10 guide on how to
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: cut a vegetable i don't know like i don't know
Felicia Devine: Measure my waist.
Felicia Devine: Actually, I would buy a guide on how to cut a vegetable, Natalie.
Natalie Richards: but Good for you. I'm not good. See, there's a market for everything.
Felicia Devine: There's a market for everything. I just am like. I don't... I don't know if I have anything important enough to sell. In a guide. You know?
Felicia Devine: I don't think I do. So here I am just telling people like. These are the supplements I take.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: This is the water I drink.
Natalie Richards: These are the shoes I bought. sa Here you go.
Felicia Devine: Yep. Yep. ye And you know what? That's good enough for me.
Natalie Richards: It really is.
Felicia Devine: It can be fun money.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. and it's just real it's real stuff it's not like you're trying
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Right. Right. It's actually stuff I purchase.
Natalie Richards: real stuff that you write.
Felicia Devine: Yeah, I'm not out here. I follow some people that I'm like so frustrated by where they're like. oh my gosh, I can't believe this is only being sold for a penny on Amazon. And it's no picture, no description.
Felicia Devine: It's just a trap to make you click on it. Did you know that if you click on some... I'm going to tell everyone the secret. If you click on an affiliate link for the rest of that calendar day.
Felicia Devine: Anything you purchase on Amazon. is commissionable to them.
Natalie Richards: Let's go. I remember you saying that.
Felicia Devine: And that's why those people have those. Oh, I can't believe this is only $6. Oh, look at, oh. My sister -in -law bought this for my grandpa and it's been amazing.
Natalie Richards: just to make you click on it
Felicia Devine: It's like. You're just trapping people.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. and even if
Felicia Devine: like And I think that's yucky.
Natalie Richards: Even if they don't. Like that. that particular product.
Felicia Devine: No, it it's not.
Natalie Richards: if they buy something else.
Felicia Devine: It's not even a product that would be purchased.
Natalie Richards: No.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: It's just clickbait.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. It's just clickbait so that you capture their Amazon cart.
Natalie Richards: so crazy
Felicia Devine: I think that's yucky.
Natalie Richards: Yeah, I think so too.
Felicia Devine: I'm not in it for that.
Natalie Richards: But... That's how this world works.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: everybody.
Felicia Devine: Okay, Natalie, give us the recap on your Halloween party last night.
Natalie Richards: Yes.
Natalie Richards: Mm -hmm.
Felicia Devine: And what's been up? How's your Catholic career going?
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: You're a weekend.
Natalie Richards: That's... I'm a weekend. I'm a weekend
Felicia Devine: Wait, Natalie, I have to tell you this before you tell me.
Natalie Richards: Yes, yes, yes
Felicia Devine: Because it just happened again.
Natalie Richards: Oh my.
Felicia Devine: Okay, so last week. When we were recording, I didn't mention anything because I didn't want... To like. draw attention to it. Bye. On my recording screen, when you were talking about anything Catholic or demonic or anything, your video kept cutting out.
Natalie Richards: No.
Felicia Devine: And I just said, Natalie, tell us about your Catholic. Your screen starts cutting out right now.
Natalie Richards: It did it again.
Felicia Devine: It's doing it right now. And it didn't do it for the first eight minutes of the podcast. And I literally said something about Catholicism and demons and your screen starts cutting out.
Natalie Richards: Oh my God.
Felicia Devine: They're out to get you.
Natalie Richards: I know. I know.
Felicia Devine: You're being chased.
Natalie Richards: I have felt... It's been, it's been so, yeah, it's so, that's so weird.
Felicia Devine: Isn't that weird?
Felicia Devine: That is really weird.
Natalie Richards: And I'm not even, it doesn't even phase me at this point. I'm just, it doesn't.
Felicia Devine: Okay. Okay.
Natalie Richards: and I... I haven't even told Kyle this yet. I have to tell him. but like
Felicia Devine: Ooh.
Natalie Richards: I... I went to...
Felicia Devine: Maybe he'll listen to the podcast.
Natalie Richards: Oh my God, we have so actually so many things to talk about today. It's all popping back in my mind. I went to my Lyme doctor on Tuesday
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: and i'll I'll recap about that in a second. but Kyle had Jean after he picked him up from work from me.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: and He called me. It was after my appointment, I think. Yeah, I think it was after. He called me. He was like, he's been just like losing it for like 45 minutes almost.
Natalie Richards: like woke up from a nap in the truck and sometimes he'll wake up and he's like not okay after.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: If he gets woken up and it's a different particular time of day, he'll just be like.
Felicia Devine: Irritated
Natalie Richards: Not okay. Yeah. Just irritated. Can't calm him down. Just like. and it's like okay let's give him a second and usually within like five minutes he's fine But Colonel said he was. Losing it for like 45 minutes
Felicia Devine: Oh my goodness.
Natalie Richards: and just could not calm down so he called me and he's like okay jeannie wants to talk to you and james goes Mommy I'm so scared. I'm so scared. And I go. oh my goodness. Okay. Well, I'm on my way home. I'll see you in a little bit. And he just was like, he woke up and I think he was really, really freaked out by something.
Natalie Richards: Who knows what?
Felicia Devine: Did he have a bad dream?
Natalie Richards: He must have when he was asleep. I don't know. so I got off the phone. I said my, I said like the St. Michael, the Archangel prayer.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: which i have been I have been saying that. prayer more than any time in my entire life this week.
Felicia Devine: Wow.
Natalie Richards: Is it? There will just be like weird things and I'll just be like. Okay, we're just gonna... we're just going to say this prayer. and but So if it's, I don't know if you know the St. Michael prayer, but they, they say it at least at our church.
Felicia Devine: No.
Natalie Richards: They say it at the end of Mass every week. So it's like a... It's a really powerful prayer, but it's... Like St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
Natalie Richards: May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. and Do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen. like that's We say that at the end of mass.
Felicia Devine: Wow.
Natalie Richards: that I think it's. I thought it was universal. that they that that that's like what most catholic churches do now i think they
Felicia Devine: I thought everyone said that Oh.
Natalie Richards: They added it in a few years ago, I think.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: Oh. So I'll just like say that and I'll say it when we're going to sleep. But I said that prayer. and then i said something else.
Felicia Devine: While you're driving home.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. While I was driving home and within two minutes, Kyle texts me and goes, he's fine now. We're wrestling.
Felicia Devine: Whoa.
Natalie Richards: It was like... within but Like literally I got done with it. I went in. to a store really quick and grab something and I came back out and he had texted me.
Felicia Devine: a Wow.
Natalie Richards: that everything was fine. o
Felicia Devine: Interesting.
Natalie Richards: It's so crazy
Felicia Devine: Wow.
Natalie Richards: So I'm just...
Felicia Devine: So it's going well.
Natalie Richards: It's going well Just very aware of things and very in tune. with a lot of just like stuff going on. i'm fairly confident.
Natalie Richards: It has something to do with either my healing or my dad's healing.
Felicia Devine: Mhm.
Natalie Richards: And that's kind of why. Ding. led on this path.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: So.
Felicia Devine: Called forward.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. Just there's so many. parts to it. just Because I was talking to my Lyme doctor, I go, because my dad is seeing him too. And I was like. what do you think about all of this going on like with my dad?
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: And he's like, I don't know. It's pretty crazy. And then I said, did they tell you about how? is oxygen level is perfectly fine. he's He's sitting at a 98. blood oxygen.
Natalie Richards: at all times, but he can't breathe.
Felicia Devine: Whoa.
Natalie Richards: And I was like, and he goes, wait, what? I'm like, yeah, if he has. COPD and emphysema and his alveoli are trashed in Kent.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: transfer oxygen he shouldn't be sitting at that ever.
Felicia Devine: Mm -mm.
Natalie Richards: So it was like... it's just very interesting and he's like yeah i don't i don't know
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: So he has something that's causing him to not be able to breathe. That is not physiologic. in my opinion
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: So.
Felicia Devine: He's being squeezed by A spirit. An alien.
Natalie Richards: i don't know I don't know. That's just kind of like. It's where i where I'm... diving down into. So I called my mom, I go.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: and This is a lot to explain, but I was like, I think you need to have your house blessed or something. I think you need to like.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Because he only feels symptoms.
Felicia Devine: But that's like not far off what your mom would do. I'm surprised she hasn't done that.
Natalie Richards: No, it's not. i'm so I know. i know she goes yeah i've been thinking about that too and i go i think it needs to happen I think it needs to happen.
Felicia Devine: You need to be there, Natalie.
Natalie Richards: because He only feels symptoms when he comes back home. And they've had their house like checked for everything like they.
Felicia Devine: Right.
Natalie Richards: These guys who've been...
Felicia Devine: Well you said he can't sleep in his room.
Natalie Richards: No, he can he has claustrophobia.
Felicia Devine: There's something in their room.
Natalie Richards: He can't sleep in a room at all. and he can't
Felicia Devine: Oh, I have chills.
Natalie Richards: Sleep. Like. he has to sleep out in the open. He can barely even go into a shower to take a shower. because it's too closed.
Felicia Devine: So crazy.
Natalie Richards: So it's like, it's it's a deep level of anxiety. that he's having but it's manifesting as
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: nothing of the breeze.
Natalie Richards: So if he takes a rescue inhaler, it helps him a little.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Hmm. Spooky.
Natalie Richards: It is a little bit.
Felicia Devine: I can't get over the fact that your video keeps cutting out every time you talk about this, though.
Natalie Richards: Is it? Are you serious?
Felicia Devine: It still is.
Natalie Richards: It's still doing it.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm. But it's only when you're talking.
Natalie Richards: That's so weird.
Felicia Devine: Can you see it on your side?
Natalie Richards: Because yours is... too No, it's doing nothing on my end.
Felicia Devine: And your audio does not cut out. It's just your video goes black and then comes back on.
Natalie Richards: what
Felicia Devine: And it it literally started last week. For the first time ever, it did this. And I didn't draw any attention to it because your audio wasn't cutting out.
Natalie Richards: Ew, I don't like this.
Felicia Devine: And your video just keeps going black.
Natalie Richards: Wish.
Felicia Devine: Ooh, it's spooky.
Natalie Richards: Spooky.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: Well, it is Halloween.
Felicia Devine: Tell me about your Halloween party.
Natalie Richards: It is Halloween today.
Felicia Devine: Today is Halloween. By the time you listen to this, Halloween will be long gone.
Natalie Richards: mm -hmm
Felicia Devine: Tell us about your party.
Natalie Richards: It was so fun. We went to... the country club that I. grown up going to and they
Felicia Devine: Oh you guys still go there?
Natalie Richards: I mean, I don't really. i don't We don't belong there anymore, but my parents do.
Felicia Devine: oh you don't okay i thought I was like I don't remember if you still go there okay
Natalie Richards: My parents do. So we are still there like whenever there's.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: fun things going on. It's kind of the best of everything.
Felicia Devine: Was it kids or adults only?
Natalie Richards: no kids. So just adults. So it was like Brian and Jason were there.
Felicia Devine: On. yeah
Natalie Richards: And I don't know if you ever met Kelly and Michael.
Felicia Devine: Yay! yea
Natalie Richards: There's a bunch of people that were.
Felicia Devine: No.
Natalie Richards: that were there it was fun
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: So my, we all dressed as well.
Natalie Richards: Kyle and I dressed as 90s skiers, like 90s grunge skiers.
Felicia Devine: Love, love.
Natalie Richards: And then my mom, I said, oh, you could be a skier with us. So we had a shot ski that we brought with us as a prop.
Felicia Devine: Yes! yaza
Natalie Richards: So everybody was like, oh my gosh, Ashotsky, that's so funny.
Felicia Devine: Love that.
Natalie Richards: it was It was a hit.
Felicia Devine: I'm sure it was.
Natalie Richards: And my mom shows up. I'm going to post these videos today. So go.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Go ahead and lick your face. On my Instagram. She dresses in. First of all, it's her old ski suit from when she was in eighth grade.
Natalie Richards: Okay, she it's white.
Felicia Devine: She's still fit in that.
Natalie Richards: She's still, I mean. It fits me, kind of, with it open. if but she still has it first of all.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm. That's crazy.
Natalie Richards: And isn't that so funny? So she wore that. with like a red under thing and then she had a bright blue curly wig. that she wore with like so she was all like a red white and blue here.
Felicia Devine: Cute.
Natalie Richards: And then she brought her ski poles and she was dancing to the music like with her ski poles.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: She's so cute
Natalie Richards: oh my gosh it was hilarious and then my dad went as like a bad arborist
Natalie Richards: So he had his tree care jacket from when he first started his business.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: like it's a jean jacket that has like a tree care logo on the back. It is so cool, but he's still like, he has pictures of himself in this jacket.
Felicia Devine: Oh my goodness.
Felicia Devine: Aww.
Natalie Richards: It's so cool. And he had like these little chainsaw things like hanging off of his jacket and he had a hard hat on and his climbing his climbing belt and then he pretended that his finger was cut off so he had
Felicia Devine: Cue! Good.
Natalie Richards: it He walked around in a glove with his glove cut off and it has like red.
Felicia Devine: You... He walked around with his...
Felicia Devine: Oh my gosh.
Natalie Richards: red stuff on his finger he pretended it was cut off the whole night it was so funny
Felicia Devine: So was his finger just bent in half the whole night?
Natalie Richards: Yeah, he just bent it the whole time. mm -hmm
Felicia Devine: He's gonna have a trigger finger today.
Natalie Richards: Literally.
Felicia Devine: so I love your parents
Natalie Richards: It was so fun. we i mean we had fun it was so fun like it was
Felicia Devine: Did you? Yeah, maybe we shouldn't have decided to podcast so early. I'm sorry.
Natalie Richards: I wasn't expecting that I would have that much. untruthfully said. I was like, yeah, it's fine.
Felicia Devine: You're like having to have that much fun in years.
Natalie Richards: We can podcast. It's fine.
Felicia Devine: What were Brian and Jason?
Natalie Richards: But I came home. They were. Jason was Dolly Parton.
Felicia Devine: Amazing.
Natalie Richards: If you can just imagine.
Felicia Devine: My gosh, yes.
Natalie Richards: blonde wig horrible trashy blonde wig like it was
Felicia Devine: I love it
Natalie Richards: So bad.
Felicia Devine: Sorry, I'm red lighting.
Natalie Richards: Are you with your red light on?
Felicia Devine: My legs are so sore.
Natalie Richards: That's what I should do too. I should be doing that while we're sitting here.
Felicia Devine: I'm multitasking.
Natalie Richards: And then. Brian was... Oh gosh. some one of her like famous friends.
Felicia Devine: Oh, okay.
Natalie Richards: Oh my gosh.
Felicia Devine: But they were like Dollywood.
Natalie Richards: They were, do it was Dolly Parton and then Brian was dressed in like a suit with a wig and it was funny.
Felicia Devine: Style.
Felicia Devine: Oh my gosh, so fun.
Natalie Richards: Jason had like the big stuffed bra boobs on. like it was and a pink great pink. off the shoulder dress. It was...
Felicia Devine: Okay. For our listeners who don't know who these two are.
Natalie Richards: Beyond bright. red lipstick.
Felicia Devine: They commit to a bit.
Natalie Richards: Big meh.
Felicia Devine: They're both extremely muscular.
Natalie Richards: Yes.
Felicia Devine: Extremely fit.
Natalie Richards: Yes.
Felicia Devine: Jason is how tall?
Natalie Richards: He's as tall as Kyle.
Felicia Devine: 6 -6?
Natalie Richards: He's 6 '5", yeah.
Felicia Devine: Six, seven.
Natalie Richards: He's six by probably.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Uh, 6 '5". Beautiful men.
Natalie Richards: but Yeah.
Felicia Devine: yeah good I love it
Natalie Richards: They did a couple years ago. They did Mrs. Doubtfire. and they dressed as
Felicia Devine: Oh my gosh.
Natalie Richards: two different versions of Mrs.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Doubtfire and it was
Felicia Devine: I love it
Natalie Richards: beyond funny.
Felicia Devine: I love it.
Natalie Richards: It was so good.
Felicia Devine: They're a hoot
Natalie Richards: So everybody everybody goes pretty. they go all out yeah like it was it it was a heck of a costume party everybody was really dressed up.
Felicia Devine: Committed. Yeah.
Felicia Devine: That's amazing.
Natalie Richards: so It was fun. It was really a a fun night.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: Kyle was having fun. like It was good.
Felicia Devine: Good.
Natalie Richards: It was really nice.
Felicia Devine: So did Kyle have to take off or did he already have off?
Natalie Richards: He already had off which was a a miracle. So now he has to go today.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: He's he's. gone all day he has to work in galena i don't know if you know what galena illinois is
Felicia Devine: I do. I've been to Galena.
Natalie Richards: You have?
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Well, yeah, because so it's like... right on the board on the border of Iowa.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. It's like a cutesy little town.
Natalie Richards: and So cute So they have a Halloween parade every year that brings in like.
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Natalie Richards: 30 000 people like if you can imagine that tiny little town
Felicia Devine: Whoa. Oh.
Natalie Richards: So they pull in
Felicia Devine: Is it daytime parade or nighttime?
Natalie Richards: It's a nighttime parade.
Felicia Devine: Hmm.
Natalie Richards: So it's once it gets dark, they do it.
Felicia Devine: Whoa.
Natalie Richards: so he he gets pulled in almost every year because he
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: They have to they have to pull let's go
Felicia Devine: Is it overtime? Or no.
Natalie Richards: Very much over time, yeah.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: Good.
Natalie Richards: So. He is there pretty much all day.
Felicia Devine: No.
Natalie Richards: today.
Felicia Devine: Whenever he's working, is he with Gator?
Natalie Richards: yeah. Yeah, gators with him pretty much everywhere.
Felicia Devine: Okay, so like... Gator will go to the parade.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: Oh, okay.
Natalie Richards: Yeah, Kyle has a costume for him a little ghost He's gonna dress him up and put him in the middle of the street. So cute.
Felicia Devine: Ugh. I love Gator so much.
Natalie Richards: I know.
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Natalie Richards: Oh, so Gene, he is like, he is like. and it's very anti halloween right now like he saw me put my costume on
Felicia Devine: Oh right, right, right, right.
Natalie Richards: Last night he goes. Take it off. take it off don't wear that and i was like jeannie
Felicia Devine: Aww.
Felicia Devine: It's just for fun.
Natalie Richards: And he didn't want to go to his his Halloween. party at school.
Felicia Devine: He didn't.
Natalie Richards: So... eatton So.
Felicia Devine: Did you keep him home?
Natalie Richards: We're not. Yeah. i just was like he he was talking about it the night before
Felicia Devine: Hmm.
Natalie Richards: Then I woke up in the morning and I was like. I'm not.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: I'm not gonna make
Felicia Devine: Who did he hang out?
Natalie Richards: Make them go.
Felicia Devine: How? Who did he hang out with last night when you were at your party?
Natalie Richards: it's tiles. friend's niece.
Felicia Devine: Oh nice!
Natalie Richards: Her name's Peyton. and He loves her. It's great.
Felicia Devine: Good good So he stayed home.
Natalie Richards: Bye. They actually went and carved pumpkins.
Felicia Devine: Oh, okay.
Natalie Richards: And they yeah, so they went to. her grandparents' house and carved pumpkins with.
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Natalie Richards: the little kids that you know so
Felicia Devine: Fun. Fun.
Natalie Richards: It was fun for him. But yeah, it's just been kind of kind of interesting. So I don't think we're not doing anything today. we're not I don't think we're trick -or -treating.
Felicia Devine: No.
Natalie Richards: We're not doing a thing.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: Nope.
Felicia Devine: It's just a normal day.
Natalie Richards: Yep. Normal day.
Felicia Devine: Good. Love it.
Natalie Richards: We're just, yep, probably actually we're going to church is what we're doing.
Felicia Devine: Yep. I don't.
Natalie Richards: i can't handle i can't handle myself again.
Felicia Devine: you You are a hoot. No, I know. I know. Well, it is Saturday and you go to Saturday church.
Natalie Richards: I'm going to go to Saturday church because it's just going to, I kind of like it, 4 .30 p .m. Saturday, I love it.
Felicia Devine: I just had a, yeah. I just had a... couple that i see regularly and i saw them When did I work last? Did I work last Saturday? two Saturdays ago. Anyway, they came in all dressed up.
Felicia Devine: And I'm like... And usually that I mean. Not that they wear like grungy clothes, but they were just like dressed fancier.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. Yeah.
Felicia Devine: I'm like, where are you going on a Saturday like today?
Natalie Richards: Right.
Felicia Devine: She's like, we're going to church. And I was like. isn't it Saturday and she's like yeah we have Saturday church and I go honestly that sounds more appetizing
Natalie Richards: I know.
Felicia Devine: Because then you don't have like your Sunday feel so like rushed through.
Natalie Richards: I think so too.
Natalie Richards: Exactly. And you don't have to like wake up early on a Sunday.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: like our church that's close to our house
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: It's at 830 a .m.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: 6 p .m. which I love a 6 p .m.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Sunday they Mass. I really do.
Felicia Devine: Do you?
Natalie Richards: Love it. I do. That's what we've always done my whole life.
Felicia Devine: Oh. Oh.
Natalie Richards: So I don't mind that. But like the 830, if I can't do the six, like 830 is like not going to happen.
Felicia Devine: Yeah, it's early.
Natalie Richards: That's not going to happen for me.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm. So growing up, if it was at six, did you eat dinner beforehand or after?
Natalie Richards: Usually after. And it was like our thing.
Felicia Devine: Mmm.
Natalie Richards: We would just go to. go to six o 'clock church and go eat dinner.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: We're very late eaters though. which is not good.
Felicia Devine: Yeah, you are
Natalie Richards: But like my mom would cook dinner at like 8 p .m.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: and we'd eat at nine.
Felicia Devine: Yeah, because your mom goes about at 2 a .m.
Natalie Richards: Right.
Felicia Devine: Okay. Yeah. Is she still doing that?
Natalie Richards: Right. Uh, yup.
Felicia Devine: Your mom.
Natalie Richards: Yes. Yes.
Felicia Devine: is a hoot.
Natalie Richards: She sure is. Cheers.
Felicia Devine: I feel sorry for anybody who doesn't know Anita.
Natalie Richards: Oh she's a hoot!
Felicia Devine: who Okay, tell me about your Disney trip you're planning.
Natalie Richards: Okay. It's going to be so fun.
Felicia Devine: Because it's in a couple weeks.
Natalie Richards: I know. i
Felicia Devine: Mmm.
Natalie Richards: Okay, I also, am I still cutting out?
Felicia Devine: No.
Natalie Richards: Okay, well it might... right now. so
Felicia Devine: Now what are we talking about? What kind of devil are we talking about now?
Natalie Richards: Well... my brother oh my god My brother and I had such a long conversation about conspiracies the other night.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: and It just like brings me back to like all the conspiracies about. Disney and like Hollywood and all the deep like dark stuff that traditionally has been like
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Natalie Richards: Part of Disney.
Felicia Devine: Cover it up.
Natalie Richards: Mm -hmm
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: So I... I'm very curious like what it's going to feel like when we go there. but Yeah.
Felicia Devine: Really? I didn't know there was deep, dark secrets of Disney.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: I thought it was just like Hollywood.
Natalie Richards: There's like Well the...
Felicia Devine: But I guess that's kind of combined.
Natalie Richards: I don't think we can get into this. I actually don't think I can talk about this on the podcast.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: I don't know.
Felicia Devine: That's fine. We don't have to talk about it.
Natalie Richards: Really do your own digging. but
Felicia Devine: We don't have to talk about it
Natalie Richards: There's some serious. things.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: that I don't know are... Of course, I don't know if they're true, allegedly.
Felicia Devine: Al -Ajalli.
Natalie Richards: allegedly
Felicia Devine: But we have we have to be careful about what we say now because we have listeners from all over the world.
Natalie Richards: there's some
Natalie Richards: you
Felicia Devine: Natalie, you're cutting out again.
Natalie Richards: See?
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: Okay. Well, that tells me.
Felicia Devine: And you hadn't cut out.
Natalie Richards: That tells me all I need to know.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. We don't need to talk about it.
Natalie Richards: Whatever. Okay, moving on.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: So we're going to... We're going to Hollywood Studios, which is like the MGM, whatever.
Felicia Devine: Oh, right.
Natalie Richards: So they have Star Wars and they have. toy story and they have like shows there's so like there's an indiana jones like movies.
Felicia Devine: Yes.
Felicia Devine: Cool.
Natalie Richards: production show which I loved when I was a kid.
Felicia Devine: Oh, did you?
Natalie Richards: so i'm kind of excited to to go back and do that.
Felicia Devine: Oh, doesn't the ball roll at you?
Natalie Richards: Yes. It like rolls.
Felicia Devine: And yeah.
Natalie Richards: It's like the real Indiana Jones movie where he's.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: He like. They show you how.
Felicia Devine: It worked.
Natalie Richards: how like the set works. It's really cool.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: So that's gonna be fun, but there's a lot of stuff there that I haven't done
Felicia Devine: Ooh, fun.
Natalie Richards: So it's kind of fun. and they They changed it a lot.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: So there's lots of shows. There's a Frozen show and a Mickey Mouse show and a... Whatever, it's gonna be fun.
Felicia Devine: And will you do more of the shows?
Natalie Richards: I think we will
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: I think we will. Just.
Felicia Devine: Good.
Natalie Richards: we're gonna go Our plan for that day is to show up at like 11 or noon. And not.
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Natalie Richards: Do, yeah.
Felicia Devine: And then stay the whole day.
Natalie Richards: So then... Because then they have a phantasmic show. at the end which is at 9 30 p .m. And I.
Felicia Devine: Mm.
Natalie Richards: I was kind of like, you know.
Felicia Devine: You don't need to be there 12 hours.
Natalie Richards: i'd rather do no and we're going to do lightning lanes anyway so i'm like we don't have to get there at 8 a .m to try to rope drop these i just can't we're not gonna do it it's not going to happen.
Felicia Devine: Oh you are?
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah. Have you heard of the Disney Plaid Day?
Natalie Richards: And like doing.
Felicia Devine: The VIP.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. Oh, yeah. We looked into it. We had.
Felicia Devine: Save that.
Natalie Richards: We had 11 people and they don't allow you to have 11 people. You have to have 10.
Felicia Devine: Because you have to buy two.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: So save that for when we come next and we can combine and do it together.
Natalie Richards: I will.
Felicia Devine: And then we'll just do two tours.
Natalie Richards: I... Beautiful.
Felicia Devine: Amanda and Shay did it.
Natalie Richards: Beautiful. No, it's you can't.
Felicia Devine: Can't go backwards. They were literally like...
Natalie Richards: How do you ever?
Felicia Devine: How do you ever go back?
Natalie Richards: How?
Felicia Devine: Yeah. So we'll do it together.
Natalie Richards: They have one for universal too. And I looked into universal and that one would be pretty great too.
Felicia Devine: Do they?
Natalie Richards: Cause they, they include your meals with that one. Where Disney you get like snacks and stuff, but you still have to pay for all your food.
Felicia Devine: a
Felicia Devine: Yeah, I can't remember it. Crazy behavior. No, it's like it's almost $900 an hour.
Natalie Richards: crazy Yeah, depending on the day
Felicia Devine: 10 -hour minimum.
Natalie Richards: depending on the day. so It's between 400 and 900 an hour.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: 10 hour minimum.
Natalie Richards: uh seven I think
Felicia Devine: 07.
Natalie Richards: I think.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: But most people do 10 because if you're doing it, yeah, you have to tip.
Felicia Devine: And then you have to tip. have
Natalie Richards: Mhm. Oh, but you get parking.
Felicia Devine: but Natalie, if I just keep saving up. My affiliate marketing.
Natalie Richards: Yeah, that can be your Disney VIP. money.
Felicia Devine: I might have the tip money.
Natalie Richards: It's crazy. but But like we've did, my mom was like, Oh yeah.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Let's look into it. I was like, are you serious? Okay.
Felicia Devine: but I could see.
Natalie Richards: What?
Felicia Devine: to you guys doing it.
Natalie Richards: If it's like enough. people and we would have enough people like it's fun
Felicia Devine: But then you're like, we got to cut the fringe because we only want to buy one. You don't want to have to buy two.
Natalie Richards: Right. No no no no no.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: No.
Felicia Devine: But if we came to we could split the cost
Natalie Richards: so It would be perfect.
Felicia Devine: And it would divide it up. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: it would be perfect.
Felicia Devine: Bye.
Natalie Richards: So we'll make that happen.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: But yeah, so we're doing that. And I'm just, I'm not like the typical Disney goer. I'm not.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: I'm not. following the trends I'm doing I'm forging my own path
Felicia Devine: Right. Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: and i have my little you know my schedule my schedule is going to work out beautifully.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yep.
Natalie Richards: So.
Felicia Devine: And you guys are just going to go with the flow.
Natalie Richards: Yeah, it's going to be great. and then
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: there's There's like parties. Christmas parties going on at the other parks.
Felicia Devine: Mm.
Natalie Richards: Kind of around it
Felicia Devine: Will you do those?
Natalie Richards: So no, I don't think we're going to do that this year. We did last time.
Felicia Devine: Because you guys did the Christmas party last year.
Natalie Richards: Yeah, and it just was... It got... tough It was tough.
Felicia Devine: Did it?
Natalie Richards: It was.
Felicia Devine: because it
Natalie Richards: be busy. Like it just like the streets felt very busy and it was.
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Natalie Richards: chaos and hectic and Like we did it and it was fun. But it was like. o I don't know. And it was dark.
Felicia Devine: Don't need to do that twice.
Natalie Richards: It was dark the whole time. you know so it just is a different
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: experience.
Felicia Devine: Vibe.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. So then we're going to Epcot and Epcot is my fave.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: because...
Felicia Devine: Is that I've never been, obviously.
Natalie Richards: it's all of the the countries that they have and you go to like You just hop around and you get your little food.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: and your little snacks as you go through the countries.
Felicia Devine: Mhm.
Natalie Richards: There's new rides there too. I've never done them. a couple of them there
Felicia Devine: Oh, I didn't know there were rides there.
Natalie Richards: Mm -hmm.
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Natalie Richards: There's actually Epcot for is actually great for kids. like kids under
Felicia Devine: oh
Natalie Richards: Peace. six probably.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: It's... perfect because there's a whole moana land there's
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Felicia Devine: oh
Natalie Richards: Like... Jean and Carson actually, where they're at right now, they can do pretty much all the rides.
Felicia Devine: Right. Well, Gene for sure because he's tall enough.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: I don't know.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: How how tall is Carson?
Natalie Richards: person. is i think In September, he was 39 and a half inches.
Felicia Devine: Oh, and you have to be 40?
Natalie Richards: So we're hoping that he just.
Felicia Devine: Put him in a chunky.
Natalie Richards: i know like stretch them out a little bit really really thick sneaker
Felicia Devine: High top sneaker. Do some inversions before you go.
Natalie Richards: So we're going to see.
Felicia Devine: Oh my goodness.
Natalie Richards: I'm hoping that he that he makes it because that makes our trip so different.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: If you can...
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: go on everything.
Felicia Devine: Do. Everything. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: Yeah, we – did I tell you when we were up in Vermont, we took the kids to the mountain? So at the base of the mountain, they have – A bunch of different like.
Felicia Devine: attractions kind of like A trampoline with a... a bungee and like bounce houses and just like different like adventure park kind of things.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: And then you can take the ski lift all the way to the summit. as like a ride, or you can take it to the summit and do the Alpine slide. So we were like, oh, we'll go to the base. We'll do like a whole afternoon. We get in line for the tickets. and Everyone, like the boys had gone to park. So I'm standing in line with Giuseppe and I'm like looking at the sign and it's like.
Felicia Devine: anything to participate in anything it was like you had to be three And. some...
Natalie Richards: Whoa.
Felicia Devine: some 42 inches, something like that. It was like you had to. Minimum age be three and you had also a height requirement.
Natalie Richards: Lots of criteria.
Felicia Devine: And I was like.
Natalie Richards: Ugh!
Felicia Devine: Oh, no, because like we had told Giuseppe like we're doing this and we're going to go on the like on the chairlift and like all this stuff.
Natalie Richards: oh
Felicia Devine: And then we were like. Now we need to back out because he can't do it.
Natalie Richards: Oh.
Felicia Devine: but like
Natalie Richards: Right.
Felicia Devine: Kind of let him down easy. Dan almost. burst into tears.
Natalie Richards: Because that's so sad.
Felicia Devine: Yeah, because it's just like.
Natalie Richards: oh because he was so excited
Felicia Devine: I had experienced rejection for set before. This is Dan's first rejection for Sep. So it's very sad. It's very sad.
Natalie Richards: And you don't have anything to tell them except for, oh, sorry.
Felicia Devine: Other than. The rules say no.
Natalie Richards: The rules, yeah.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm. Instead of us going to do like the bounce house and like. being there. We're like, let's just like not be there.
Natalie Richards: yeah
Felicia Devine: Cause like he can't do. Anything else?
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: And we have a bounce house at home. So I'm like, let's just go downtown and like go to a bookstore and like go walk around.
Natalie Richards: Right, it's okay.
Natalie Richards: Right.
Felicia Devine: And it ended up working out, but it was like. So sad for Dan.
Natalie Richards: remember what you have to achieve. We'll go to the store if you don't interrupt me, but this was an interruption. whoop Peace.
Felicia Devine: Oopsie.
Natalie Richards: I'll let this one slide
Felicia Devine: This was your reminder.
Natalie Richards: This was your one interruption. Okay? Now you go lay on the couch and I will get you your vitamins after, okay? Thank you. And then we'll go. We'll bring them to me. here i
Natalie Richards: my where
Felicia Devine: All right, we're almost done. We're wrapping up.
Natalie Richards: Sure we are.
Felicia Devine: one last thing uh speaking of vitamins i mistakenly took my fish oil this morning before i went running
Natalie Richards: Oh my gosh.
Felicia Devine: And I just kept like.
Natalie Richards: Oh ick.
Felicia Devine: burping up fish oil.
Natalie Richards: That's so gross.
Felicia Devine: I know. I usually take them at night so that they like digest all the way.
Natalie Richards: It's so gross you can in my own
Felicia Devine: But. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Gross.
Felicia Devine: mistake All right.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. I'm going to give Jean my phone real quick.
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Natalie Richards: and then we'll have
Felicia Devine: That's fine.
Natalie Richards: a second.
Felicia Devine: We can also wrap it up because I i have nothing else of note.
Natalie Richards: Oh that's true. I know. But... Well, So we have our house guest that's moving in today.
Felicia Devine: Oh yes! Natalie's getting a roommate.
Natalie Richards: We have a birthday.
Felicia Devine: As if your house wasn't busy enough.
Natalie Richards: great! So that's going to be kind of fun.
Felicia Devine: It's gonna get busier.
Natalie Richards: yeah, so it's uh Okay, let's go. awesome So what you
Felicia Devine: yeah Okay, tell us about your roommate.
Natalie Richards: So she is, we had talked about this a while ago now, probably a month ago, right?
Felicia Devine: Did you talk about it on the podcast though?
Natalie Richards: Did we talk about it?
Felicia Devine: I think it was off the podcast.
Natalie Richards: Was it? Was everything off the podcast?
Felicia Devine: I think so. Cause we were kind of like.
Natalie Richards: Maybe so. Oh maybe so. So. I don't even know how this came to be. Triple E!
Felicia Devine: Oh, I do. I know how this came to be, didn't Dr. Malley?
Natalie Richards: Dr.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: Malley. Yeah.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: So okay, I think I talked a little bit about it on the podcast.
Felicia Devine: Did you?
Natalie Richards: I had gone to homecoming. Met with this girl She...
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: was she was looking at apartments and she was okay back backing up way further. Dr. Malley got got us in contact, who is...
Felicia Devine: Dr. Malley was Natalie's like. extracurricular mentor.
Natalie Richards: Yes. So like I had an internship with him for.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: two and a half years out of the three that we were at Palmer.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: So.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: He got us in contact because she's an intern for him as well.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: So... We had lunch. She is precepting with a different office in Rockford.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: was too late to change. to change preceptors.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: to me which is going to be fine
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: and then She was looking, she was like, oh, you know, I'm looking at apartments, but for a four month lease, it's really difficult because it's only.
Natalie Richards: it's only for four months. So it's really hard to find.
Felicia Devine: Right. it's Hard to find or really expensive.
Natalie Richards: Anything. Or really expensive.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: Exactly. So she was looking at places that were. Just trash.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: for a thousand dollars a month.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: And I'm just like, that's insane.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: And I just couldn't let. that happens. on my conscience.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Right, right.
Natalie Richards: Yes. she was gonna have like two 70 year old guy roommates and her she was going to be in a basement moldy bedroom.
Felicia Devine: No.
Natalie Richards: Like so bad.
Felicia Devine: Oh, spooky.
Natalie Richards: So bad. So it was like, na no, no, no, no. Or the other one was like in in the middle of... really bad. a really bad part of downtown Rockford.
Felicia Devine: yeah And again, you can't let you can't let her, yeah.
Natalie Richards: So sick. No! again i can't do that so i said you know if you can't find anything
Felicia Devine: Mm -mm.
Natalie Richards: I have a bedroom. If you don't feel like, if you feel like you can handle a 30 minute drive or 40 minute drive to work.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: to your preceptorship. I mean, that's what I do every day. So it's not a big deal.
Felicia Devine: Right.
Natalie Richards: and she's kind of used to that. She's from Canada and she's. she's from the country kind of so she's used to a drive and she's used to kind of like quiet and and all that so she came here she was like yeah this is really nice i think i'll So she decided that she was going to move in with us.
Felicia Devine: Okay. Driving in.
Felicia Devine: Mhm.
Felicia Devine: Yay!
Natalie Richards: So she is going to be learning from me a little bit too, but she's going to, it's going to be kind of like a.
Felicia Devine: yay
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: like a foreign exchange student a little bit.
Felicia Devine: An au pair.
Natalie Richards: and Who knows? so like I don't know what it's going to look like.
Felicia Devine: No, more like foreign an exchange.
Natalie Richards: But yeah, it's going to be fun though.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: So she's going to.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: hang out with us and do like we i already have some things planned she's coming to the the canine ball that for Kyle's work. So that's going to be next weekend or this coming weekend.
Felicia Devine: Okay. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: this and then we're doing like medical bingo on wednesday and we have like some things that we're gonna we're gonna do So it's going to be kind of fun.
Felicia Devine: Fine. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: So we'll see how it all works out.
Felicia Devine: Good.
Natalie Richards: but she's gonna just help out a little bit she'll cook a little bit if she feels like it we're just gonna have an extra
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: person.
Felicia Devine: Set of hands, an extra person, an extra set of eyes.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. Yeah. one Yep.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Yep. So that's going to be interesting.
Felicia Devine: That's awesome.
Natalie Richards: So we'll we'll update.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: It's... just I mean, I've been doing so much. Like I organized the entire basement. because I had to
Felicia Devine: You have a basement?
Natalie Richards: Yeah, we have a huge basement. It's all unfinished, but it's...
Felicia Devine: I had no idea.
Natalie Richards: so it's all it was all storage and then it flooded back in the spring. So we...
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Natalie Richards: We had like a huge situation to deal with.
Felicia Devine: Really?
Natalie Richards: I think it was spring. I forget like February, March, maybe. And. So everything was just. kind of not organize the way I wanted it to be since then.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm
Natalie Richards: So I had to do that so then I could move stuff from that bedroom.
Felicia Devine: Out of her room. mm -hmm
Natalie Richards: don't. basement. So that has been a...
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: it's been some work over the last month or so but I got it all done
Felicia Devine: Yeah, good.
Natalie Richards: You got it?
Felicia Devine: Makes you feel good too, like getting things checked off your list.
Natalie Richards: Got it. Yeah. Yeah, I got a new bed frame for in there.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: I finally put together a cabinet that's been sitting in a box for a year. I've... so
Natalie Richards: it's just There's been been some things that I just took under my took under my own.
Felicia Devine: You know Yeah. Yes.
Natalie Richards: my own power and I'm doing it.
Felicia Devine: Yes. I love it
Natalie Richards: So that's pretty much it.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Good.
Natalie Richards: And then the other part the other thing is that. I'm I went back to the Lyme doctor. Hello Dungeons.
Natalie Richards: Okay, there you go. I know. okay back I went back to the Lyme doctor pretty much. Like good and bad news. but I know, which I knew.
Felicia Devine: Oh, no.
Natalie Richards: I mean, I felt like. I felt like. Crapola. The last one. two months.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: you know, just like.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: That just... Not good.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: So... The good thing is my adrenal function went up. which is great.
Felicia Devine: Oh, it did.
Natalie Richards: Yes. Which I i have been feeling like I've been feeling.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: Better that way. but like a lot of other things kind of have have just either either plateaued or had come back a little bit so like some joint pain and and
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: brain foggy stuff. and which makes sense because I now have.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: everything else kind of went up again which
Felicia Devine: Hmm.
Natalie Richards: His theory is like the adrenal function coming up. That's where everything's been hiding.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: is what he thinks. And when I was taking this particular... Herbal blend it kind of like kicked it out of the adrenal a little bit but that's
Felicia Devine: So now it's like circulating.
Natalie Richards: Good. Yeah, it's good because now it's like
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: treatable and I can get to it.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: So one extra thing came up. So Babesia, which I have the same profile as my dad. every single thing that he has.
Felicia Devine: Really?
Natalie Richards: I have but We're literally identical.
Felicia Devine: Interesting. Wow.
Natalie Richards: in terms of what we're treating.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah. yeah
Natalie Richards: So... That's kind of interesting too, because like how?
Felicia Devine: Mmm.
Natalie Richards: We didn't get bit by the same tick.
Felicia Devine: Right.
Natalie Richards: you know like it's it's just weird
Felicia Devine: Right. Right. That is odd.
Natalie Richards: So. So we're presenting. in the same way
Felicia Devine: Crazy.
Natalie Richards: I know. so babesia came up which is like a brain amoeba which is really great
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: So that one wasn't there before. but I mean, it was there, but it wasn't. it didn't come up as as needing to treat.
Felicia Devine: It wasn't, yeah. It was dormant.
Natalie Richards: Right.
Felicia Devine: I was hiding.
Natalie Richards: So yeah, it was hiding which is good. Like I have to kick this stuff up And maybe I had to be stressed and I had to.
Felicia Devine: You had to like squeeze your adrenal.
Natalie Richards: Like. feel tanked in order yeah in order to to
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: have all this stuff present so everything is happening in the way that it's supposed to
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: I... i have been taking some harder. herbs for like parasites and stuff now. so i've
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: feel it a little bit in a good way.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: where I'm feeling like it's doing something. so
Felicia Devine: Good.
Natalie Richards: That's that.
Felicia Devine: Yay. yeah
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: I mean, yeah, good news and bad news because you're right.
Natalie Richards: It's good. it
Felicia Devine: It's like. physiologic. Healing.
Natalie Richards: mm -hmm
Felicia Devine: But it's just more. problematic feeling. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Right. and my adrenal Like out of.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Out of 10. in terms of strength.
Felicia Devine: Right.
Natalie Richards: He says I've never seen anybody over a nine because it just the adrenal just sits at a
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Sits at a nine all the time.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: I'm at an 8 .5. So it's not.
Felicia Devine: oh it really kicked back online
Natalie Richards: It's really... really not bad.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: So now it's just.
Felicia Devine: Good.
Natalie Richards: everything can be can be treated and
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: That's pretty much that's like it. I don't have any other body systems that are
Felicia Devine: Yeah, struggling.
Natalie Richards: that are not working. so
Felicia Devine: Good.
Natalie Richards: We just have to kill this stuff.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Get it out.
Felicia Devine: Get it out.
Natalie Richards: Get it out.
Felicia Devine: Smoosh it.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Are you sauna -ing?
Natalie Richards: So that's... No, I just can't bring myself to do it. like Well, the past couple months, too, I've been really bad about all my extra stuff.
Felicia Devine: You don't want to?
Natalie Richards: and i recognize that like i haven't been doing now in the last couple weeks i've been doing it again but
Felicia Devine: Okay. Yeah, yeah
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Adios. I just couldn't do it.
Felicia Devine: That's okay.
Natalie Richards: it was It was too much. Yeah, it's fine.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: So now I'm going to get back into my red light and sauna and gua sha and vibration plate and castor oil packs and lemon water in the morning.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: and all this all this stuff
Felicia Devine: All the stuff that's like not hard, but it's just another mental tab.
Natalie Richards: just more Yep.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: It's okay.
Natalie Richards: It is. Sometimes we need a break.
Felicia Devine: It's a season.
Natalie Richards: but
Felicia Devine: I will tell you what I'm one.
Natalie Richards: It truly is.
Felicia Devine: I will buy a product. Have we talked about this? The cash or oil frankincense thing?
Natalie Richards: No, but I am also separately aware of That. product.
Felicia Devine: Oh, so. I went to Kimberton, which is like our... local Whole Foods. And it has like. Tons of supplement aisles and like body care, hair care, whatever. They were doing a... hair, body nails. face, oh whatever, sale, 25 % off. So I was browsing and I came across this product and it was a big, probably like a...
Felicia Devine: Nine ounce. bottle of casher oil. glass Amber bottle with a jade ball roller.
Natalie Richards: Okay.
Felicia Devine: And it was cash oil and frankincense. And I like rolled it on.
Natalie Richards: Okay.
Felicia Devine: And it just felt so lovely. Like it felt.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: So soothing. It smells so refreshing. Like frankincense, so good for you.
Natalie Richards: right
Natalie Richards: It is.
Felicia Devine: And I looked at the price and it was $60.
Natalie Richards: me
Natalie Richards: I believe it.
Felicia Devine: And I was like, I was like.
Natalie Richards: you
Felicia Devine: Wait a minute, I own... A gigantic bottle of cash oil. I own frankincense. All I need is to source an amber.
Natalie Richards: Yes.
Felicia Devine: bottle with a jade roller.
Natalie Richards: Yes.
Felicia Devine: I hopped on Amazon, bought one for like. I don't know. couple Less than $10.
Natalie Richards: Really?
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm. up the castor oil in the bottle, dropped as much of frankincense as I wanted in, and I've been using it, and I have been loving it.
Natalie Richards: Yep. in. Incredible.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. And I'm like, $60?
Natalie Richards: I follow... I don't know if you follow Erin Opria. She's like a celebrity. Fitness instructor kind of like in Nashville
Felicia Devine: Mm -mm. Okay.
Natalie Richards: she trains like Carrie Underwood and all kinds like yeah
Felicia Devine: Oh. Gorgeous. Gorgeous.
Natalie Richards: Yeah, she's a major.
Felicia Devine: listen Whatever she has to say, I probably will listen.
Natalie Richards: Right. So she... just got over Lyme, Bartonella, all this stuff. So she's been going through this whole.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: journey. She had no, what does she have? Alpha gal too.
Felicia Devine: Oh, geez.
Natalie Richards: So she had Alpha Gal, Lime, Bartonella.
Felicia Devine: Oh.
Natalie Richards: And she found all that out by the frequency. hit. frequency testing too.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: so So she did like the auricular acupuncture.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: and the SAIT. And then she did. herbal, just herbal stuff.
Felicia Devine: Mm -hmm.
Natalie Richards: just Same thing. But she had been doing her.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: her vibration plate and then she puts a blend of, I think it's castor oil, frankincense. And. I think she might use black seed oil too.
Felicia Devine: Okay.
Natalie Richards: combined. And she... puts it all She literally rubs it over her entire body. And I'm like, okay, maybe.
Felicia Devine: Hmm. A slippery seal.
Natalie Richards: Literally.
Felicia Devine: A sticky seal.
Natalie Richards: Sticky. steal. So I don't know if...
Felicia Devine: Oh my gosh.
Natalie Richards: you could really cut it somehow. and cut the stickiness of the castor oil somehow with like
Felicia Devine: Sometimes I cut the stickiness with just like.
Natalie Richards: almond oil or jojoba or something.
Felicia Devine: Or a lotion.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. Yeah.
Felicia Devine: It'll help. It'll cut the stickiness down.
Natalie Richards: Just helps it absorb.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: so I've thought about it. i Actually, for a while, i was I was using castor oil as a like like a lotion.
Felicia Devine: dousing yourself in castor oil.
Felicia Devine: That's what I use.
Natalie Richards: And it does go away after a while.
Felicia Devine: it I use it on my face. It does. I sleep in it, though, and then it absorbs.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. It absorbs, yeah.
Felicia Devine: I wake up and I look like a little...
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: baby, baby doe.
Natalie Richards: nice Exactly. Exactly.
Felicia Devine: No, I'm teasing. i Don't wake up looking like a baby. I look like roadkill when I wake up, Natalie.
Natalie Richards: It did.
Felicia Devine: But you know what? I'm hoping that when that iron kicks in. who
Natalie Richards: Ugh.
Felicia Devine: She'll be 10 years younger.
Natalie Richards: it. you know It hasn't kicked in yet.
Felicia Devine: I don't know.
Natalie Richards: Oh boy.
Felicia Devine: I'm not too convinced it has
Natalie Richards: but isn't the whole thing you have to do another one you have to do multiple right of this type
Felicia Devine: Well, i I asked the doctor. And he was like, yeah, usually once enough. And I'm like, oh. So I asked him to retest me. And so he's going to retest me in eight at eight weeks.
Felicia Devine: I've only been two.
Natalie Richards: So.
Felicia Devine: So...
Natalie Richards: Give it a moment.
Felicia Devine: It's fine.
Natalie Richards: we'll give it a moment
Felicia Devine: We'll give it a time. We'll give it a moment. But they quoted me.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Felicia Devine: Five grand to get the infusion.
Natalie Richards: Huh?
Felicia Devine: Right? Because I'm cash.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. Oh, true. Yeah.
Felicia Devine: And I agreed. I said, I will pay that. Like, I was like, okay.
Natalie Richards: the but It's going to work.
Felicia Devine: Sure. I would pay.
Natalie Richards: living
Felicia Devine: and a lot of money to feel better.
Natalie Richards: who
Felicia Devine: That's how bad I feel.
Natalie Richards: mm -hmm mm -hmm
Felicia Devine: And then it actually came out to be. $799? Is that right? Yeah. I say...
Natalie Richards: steel
Felicia Devine: Give me five more. I'm like buy one, get five free.
Natalie Richards: but Yeah, when you have $5 ,000 in your mind.
Felicia Devine: What? Yeah. Yeah, when I thought it was $5 ,000 and it came out to $7 .99, I said...
Natalie Richards: and then
Felicia Devine: What? I want them all.
Natalie Richards: Amazing.
Felicia Devine: Yeah, so I'm like hopeful that when I get my levels back, they'll still be.
Natalie Richards: be good.
Felicia Devine: Improvable? Like I don't even know. I should probably look up like what I would want my goal to be.
Natalie Richards: I know. that to We got it.
Felicia Devine: I think over 100.
Natalie Richards: figure yourself out here, bud.
Felicia Devine: My goal would be to be over 100.
Natalie Richards: Okay.
Felicia Devine: I want to be triple digits.
Natalie Richards: Oh my. And ferritin?
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Natalie Richards: Oh!
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Okay.
Felicia Devine: They've changed recently. They've changed the recommendation for menstruating women.
Natalie Richards: That's it. Oh really?
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Really?
Felicia Devine: Yeah. And so my goal would be to be triple digits.
Natalie Richards: Because I was thinking like. 80 would be a spectacular.
Felicia Devine: 80 would be fine, but I also want to get pregnant.
Natalie Richards: Mhm.
Felicia Devine: So I i definitely want to be triple digits before I get pregnant.
Natalie Richards: that's true true
Felicia Devine: Also...
Natalie Richards: who
Felicia Devine: I started working with my homeopath.
Natalie Richards: Oh yes.
Felicia Devine: Like directly one -on -one.
Natalie Richards: Yes, you mentioned that last time.
Felicia Devine: I had my first appointment. So I had my first appointment Friday.
Natalie Richards: mm -hmm
Felicia Devine: She came and she did my whole. HRV.
Natalie Richards: yes
Felicia Devine: rundown looked at my brain waves looked at my cellular energy in and out she looked at all my body systems all my organs it looked at my chakras it looked at my spine energy sources
Natalie Richards: Love it.
Felicia Devine: Everything. And honestly, Natalie. Wasn't too shabby. Not too bad.
Natalie Richards: that's Lovely.
Felicia Devine: But what's incredible is she came. So this week I had my dose.
Natalie Richards: Okay.
Felicia Devine: So she formulated it, right?
Natalie Richards: because she Yes. And this is like your constitutional remedy. right
Felicia Devine: Well, she's not doing my constitutional.
Natalie Richards: Or she's not doing that yet.
Felicia Devine: Until she gets back from Australia.
Natalie Richards: Okay.
Felicia Devine: She's going to Australia for the Remedy Academy training. And things of that nature.
Natalie Richards: Cool.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. She's working with directly with Melissa.
Natalie Richards: cool
Felicia Devine: They're like. Side by side. So... She won't give me my constitutional because she's like, I need to be in town. In case something goes awry. so.
Natalie Richards: which is crazy that it can, but it can.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: from like these teeny little
Felicia Devine: But she's like, I wouldn't be able to like. How? with another remedy if needed.
Natalie Richards: Yes, if you have to switch.
Felicia Devine: So she's not, yeah, she's not giving my constitutional until she gets back, but I'm starting on.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. Yeah.
Felicia Devine: a an acute dose. to help with like my intrusive thoughts, brain fog, like all the brain stuff.
Natalie Richards: perfect perfect
Felicia Devine: Cause basically what we've deduced is like a lot of it is just like straight up brain.
Natalie Richards: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Love it.
Felicia Devine: The intrusive thoughts are remarkable. I can't believe they get through.
Natalie Richards: Really?
Felicia Devine: You're so bad.
Natalie Richards: Oh no. no
Felicia Devine: They're so bad. And I know. They're not real.
Natalie Richards: Yeah. You know.
Felicia Devine: And I have to tell myself, I have to tell myself like.
Natalie Richards: lee
Felicia Devine: That isn't going to play out.
Natalie Richards: but your body feels like it's real.
Felicia Devine: That's not going to happen. I know.
Natalie Richards: mm -hmm
Felicia Devine: So I've been kind of like.
Natalie Richards: Oh.
Felicia Devine: extra dosing on my happy drops because those really help.
Natalie Richards: yeah
Felicia Devine: The saffron really helps me.
Natalie Richards: The saffron. mm -hmm
Felicia Devine: So yeah, I'm just going to slowly – and I'm doing like one one dose a day.
Natalie Richards: Cool.
Felicia Devine: And then maybe if I need to, she'll bump me up.
Natalie Richards: Perfect.
Felicia Devine: But like right now we're just going to stick to like one dose of my acute a day.
Natalie Richards: Mommy. Oh my god, I can't do this Felicia
Felicia Devine: This is part of being a mother and a business owner and a podcaster.
Natalie Richards: This is real life.
Felicia Devine: I know it's hard.
Natalie Richards: This is real life you guys.
Felicia Devine: But anyway, that's all I have for today.
Natalie Richards: Okay. Oh my goodness.
Felicia Devine: ha
Natalie Richards: but I really hope. I really hope that starts to. feel better though because that's not
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: It's not a fun way to live.
Felicia Devine: No, but it's fine.
Natalie Richards: We're both, we're we're getting there.
Felicia Devine: I have. I have mental toughness.
Natalie Richards: We really are getting there. We know.
Felicia Devine: We're getting there. We're healing.
Natalie Richards: And like we said this last time too. I think we are. just so aware of the things that are happening in our puppies that I don't know that we're really that bad, but we feel bad because we.
Felicia Devine: Mm hmm.
Felicia Devine: No. No.
Natalie Richards: know what normal should feel like.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: And we... really aren't gonna compromise.
Felicia Devine: No, I was going to say we're very critical.
Natalie Richards: on not feeling normal.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: Yeah, like I... I don't have another option except for striving for better.
Felicia Devine: Yes.
Natalie Richards: Like it just, I can't, I can't, I can't accept.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. No, and I'm also... I love an anecdotal story.
Natalie Richards: Insane.
Felicia Devine: I'm like. I will try anything.
Natalie Richards: Yes!
Felicia Devine: I'll see what it does to me. Like, I love having like, yeah.
Natalie Richards: Yes, I don't care. Yeah
Felicia Devine: So I'm.
Natalie Richards: And we are going to find the things. or thing that really helps us.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Natalie Richards: And it's going to happen.
Felicia Devine: It's going to happen.
Natalie Richards: It's gonna happen. It just takes a lot of... work but that's why we do it.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: so we can help all of you.
Felicia Devine: Yes. Right. Yes.
Natalie Richards: the
Felicia Devine: There is hope.
Natalie Richards: guiding you to the right places to look.
Felicia Devine: Yes.
Natalie Richards: Because there's always... there's always an answer.
Felicia Devine: Mhm.
Natalie Richards: You just... have to look for it sometimes in different places and not
Felicia Devine: Right.
Natalie Richards: listen to the first doctor that tells you nothing's wrong with you.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Or prescribes you medication that's just like off the wall.
Natalie Richards: Right.
Felicia Devine: Yeah.
Natalie Richards: right
Felicia Devine: With no solution. mm -hmm
Natalie Richards: Like on paper. I would go to a doctor and they'd be like... What are you talking about? like what are your actual symptoms and like
Felicia Devine: It's normal to be tired. You're a mom.
Natalie Richards: Okay.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
Natalie Richards: So... It's just there's always an answer out there.
Felicia Devine: Hmm.
Natalie Richards: You just have to... Figure it out.
Felicia Devine: Yeah. All right, well that's all for this episode. Thanks for joining us. Bye.
