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Ep13 Old friends and new ways of Being
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Emmet is an old friend who has transformed himself through yoga in recent years. He has been studying in yoga schools in Mexico and France and done many silent retreats. It seems theres a lot more to Yoga than stretching and poses. There is confrontation and struggle, sacrifice and suffering, but for what purpose? Join us to find out more.
Emmet will definitely be back on for an even deeper dive so please leave any question in the comments for next time
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Introduction to Emmet Bohn and Life Journeys
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Emmet
Hello listeners and thanks for coming to another episode of Talking is Thinking.
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Daithi Flannery
Hello listeners and thanks for coming to another episode of Talking is Thinking.
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Emmet
Today I am very happy to have a guest on who I know for many years.
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Daithi Flannery
Today I am very happy to have a guest on who I know for many years.
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Emmet
It's ah the first guest that I've had had on who knows me kind of pre-college.
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Daithi Flannery
It's ah the first guest that I've had hat on who knows me kind of pre-college.
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Emmet
So it's interesting enough.
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Daithi Flannery
So it's interesting enough.
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Emmet
A past life.
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Daithi Flannery
A past life. but ah But I guess that's kind of what we're here to talk about as well because
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Emmet
but ah But I guess that's kind of what we're here to talk about as well because Um, I feel like I transformed, developed, however you want to say it through the kind of educational path and stuff I've done.
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Daithi Flannery
Um, I feel like I transformed, developed, however you want to say it through the kind of educational path and stuff I've done.
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Emmet
And I feel like you've been on a path of transformation as well.
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Daithi Flannery
And I feel like you've been on a path of transformation as well. Um, but anyways, Emmet Bohn is here to talk to us about Hatha yoga and life in general.
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Emmet
Um, but anyways, Emmet Bohn is here to talk to us about Hatha Yoga and life in general. So welcome, Emmet.
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Daithi Flannery
So welcome, Emmet.
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Emmet
Thank you, Dahi.
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Daithi Flannery
Thank you. dahi It's good to be here.
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Emmet
It's good to be here. Thanks for being on, as I said.
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Daithi Flannery
Thanks for being on. As I said, it's a problem.
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Emmet
it um My pleasure.
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Daithi Flannery
My pleasure.
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Emmet
Good, good.
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Daithi Flannery
Good, good.
Understanding Hatha Yoga
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Emmet
So tell us em what is Hatha yoga?
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Daithi Flannery
So tell us what is Hatha Yoga?
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Emmet
Hatha yoga.
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Daithi Flannery
Hatha Yoga.
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Emmet
Okay, I suppose Hatha I break down Hatha yoga for you.
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Daithi Flannery
Okay, I suppose Hatha. I break down Hatha Yoga for you.
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Emmet
First, I you get into the etymology of the word hatha.
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Daithi Flannery
First I get into the etymology of the word Hatha.
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Emmet
Ha means sun.
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Daithi Flannery
Hatha means sun, tah means moon, which represents masculine and feminine energies.
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Emmet
Tha means moon, which represents masculine and feminine energies. And I suppose hatha yoga is, I suppose it's the balancing of the masculine and the feminine energies in your inner energetic field, in your body, and in your chakras in that, you know?
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Daithi Flannery
And I suppose Hatha yoga is, I suppose it's the balancing of the masculine and feminine energies in your inner energetic faith, in your body, and in your chakras in that, you know?
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Daithi Flannery
You have two energy channels.
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Emmet
You have two energy channels. One is called Ida, and one is called Pingala.
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Daithi Flannery
One is called Ida and one is called Pingala.
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Daithi Flannery
And they're run from, we'd say, your root chakra.
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Emmet
And they're run from, we'd say, your root chakra.
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Emmet
which is down at the base of your spine and ah run right all the way up along your spine and up to like your third eye would say in the middle of your forehead, which is called ajna chakra or your third eye.
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Daithi Flannery
which is down at the base of your spine and ah run right all the way up along your spine and up to like your third eye would say, in the middle of your forehead, which is called Ajnishakra, or your third eye.
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Emmet
Okay. So it up in gala is like represents, it doesn't represent it is, it's a feminine energy.
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Daithi Flannery
So Ida Pingala is like represents, it doesn't represent it is, it's a feminine energy.
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Emmet
We all have masculine and feminine energy in us.
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Daithi Flannery
We all have masculine and feminine energy in us.
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Emmet
You know, it's all about balance and harmony between the two of them.
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Daithi Flannery
You know, it's all about balance and harmony between the two of them. So I suppose half that
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Emmet
So I suppose half that A big part of Hatha Yoga is balancing them energies.
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Daithi Flannery
A big part of Hatha Yoga is balancing them energies.
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Emmet
So like I said you have Ida, Ida, Pingala are the two Nadi's.
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Daithi Flannery
So like I said, you have Ida, Ida, Pingala are the two Nadi's.
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Emmet
Nadi's are energy channels in the body.
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Daithi Flannery
Nadi's are energy channels in the body.
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Daithi Flannery
So Ida is your feminine and Pingala is the masculine. So Ida, the feminine runs up along with the left side of your spine and Pingala runs up along the right side of your spine.
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Emmet
So Ida is your feminine and Pingala is the masculine.
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Emmet
So Ida the feminine runs up along with the left side of your spine and Pingala runs up along the right side of your spine. In between them you have another energy channel which is the main channel called Sushumna Nadi.
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Daithi Flannery
In between them you have another energy channel which is the main channel called Shumna Nadi and that's the energy channel.
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Emmet
And that's the energy channel with practice.
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Daithi Flannery
with practice.
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Emmet
There's many ways Kundalini can be awakened from a root chakra, Kundalini Shakti, which is known as the creative force of the universe.
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Daithi Flannery
There's many ways Kundalini can be awakened from a Roo Chakra, Kundalini Shakti, which is known as the creative force of the universe. Okay, okay, okay.
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Emmet
OK, OK, OK. So I'm probably going to a bit deep here now. Yeah, yeah.
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Daithi Flannery
We'll start a bit bigger, but first of all, me and you worked on building sites a couple of times.
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Emmet
We'll start a bit bigger, but. But first of all, me and you worked on building sites a couple of times.
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Daithi Flannery
years you remember I do, I do, I do.
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Emmet
I do. I do. I do. I just wonder how me and you on that building site.
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Daithi Flannery
I just wonder how me and you are not building site.
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Emmet
I know talking about this.
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Daithi Flannery
I know talking about this. Well, how would we have reacted if me and you now had walked in there?
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Emmet
would have but But how would we have reacted if me and you now had walked in there like I'm a bit of a fucking treehog and hippie and now you're like a Yogi Yogi like we would have slagged the shit out of the two boys perhaps absolutely Oh my god what's the fucking tree the yo Yeah, you think this lattice just like bunkers, you know, i know but I'm the same but I'm the same this is true.
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Daithi Flannery
Like I'm a bit of a fucking tree hug and hippie. And now you're like a yogi. ah yo Like we would have slagged the shit out of the two boys. coming Oh my God.
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Daithi Flannery
Yeah, you think this lad is just like bunkers, you know what I mean? I know, but I'm the same. but I'm the same.
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Emmet
Yeah, it's not a philosophy ain't gonna deep stuff and things like that in a
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Daithi Flannery
Listen to philosophy and go into deep stuff and things like that. it ah
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Emmet
It's hard to think about and hard to face a lot of this stuff, but but but I think it's ah a very worthwhile journey.
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Daithi Flannery
It's hard to think about and hard to face a lot of this stuff, but but but I think it's ah a very worthwhile journey. Absolutely.
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Emmet
But when we were young, when we were young men and a bit wild and like way we hung around in some of the same streets with some of the same rogues, we'd done some of the same messings, you know what I mean?
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Daithi Flannery
But when when we were young, when we were young men and a bit wild and like way we hung around on some of the same streets with some of the same rogues, we'd done some of the same messings, you know what I mean?
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Daithi Flannery
The same party in the same boldness.
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Emmet
And the same party and the same boldness. It's literally like a past life.
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Daithi Flannery
It's literally like a past life.
Life-Changing Travels and Personal Growth
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Emmet
like Seriously, when I think when i think back, the way my life has changed over the course of the last three, three and a half years so since I quit my job, yeah working in a factory for 15 years, as you know, and just quitting in the middle of a pandemic, jumping on the plane to Mexico.
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Daithi Flannery
like Seriously, when i say when I think back, the way my life has changed over the course of the last three, three and a half years since I quit my job, yeah working in a factory for 15 years, as you know, and just quitting in the middle of a pandemic, jumping on the plane to Mexico.
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Emmet
Never in a million years did I think my life would end up on the track it's on with yoga, especially, you know?
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Daithi Flannery
Never in a million years did I think my life would end up on the track. It's on with yoga, especially, you know?
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Emmet
What was your, what was your, like, I know you've traveled a bit.
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Daithi Flannery
What was your, what was your, like, I know you've traveled a bit. Tell tell us a few places that you went on your travels.
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Emmet
Tell us a few places that you went on your travels.
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Daithi Flannery
Prior to Mexico, where I were kind of discovered yoga.
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Emmet
Prior to Mexico where i where I kind of discovered yoga.
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Daithi Flannery
Before that, 2016, I spent like 10 months backpacking around South with the America.
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Emmet
Before that, 2016, I spent like 10 months backpacking around South America. I'd done most of that trip solo, eight months of that trip solo.
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Daithi Flannery
I'd done most of that trip solo, eight months of that trip solo.
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Emmet
That for me was a game changer.
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Daithi Flannery
That for me was a game changer.
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Emmet
Really?
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Daithi Flannery
Really?
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Emmet
I traveled a lot before that with friends of mine all over the world.
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Daithi Flannery
I traveled a lot before that with friends of mine all over the world.
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Emmet
I had been to South America before actually, Brazil and Argentina before that trip.
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Daithi Flannery
I had been to South America before actually, Brazil and Argentina before that trip.
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Emmet
I had been to like North America, various places in Europe.
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Daithi Flannery
I had been to like North America, various places in Europe.
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Emmet
I'd been to like Thailand, Australia.
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Daithi Flannery
I'd been to like Thailand, Australia.
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Emmet
Like I was well, well traveled, well traveled.
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Daithi Flannery
Like I was well, well traveled, well traveled.
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Emmet
But that was the first trip I done where I traveled alone.
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Daithi Flannery
But that was the first trip I done where I traveled alone.
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Emmet
Okay, that was the first time you traveled alone?
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Daithi Flannery
Okay, that was the first time you traveled alone?
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Emmet
First time I traveled alone and on i'm backpacked around South America, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Peru, Colombia.
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Daithi Flannery
First time I traveled alone and backpacked around South America, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Peru, Colombia.
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Emmet
ah Learned a fair bit of Spanish, got like intermediate level Spanish and just like just got into hiking and things like that.
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Daithi Flannery
Learned a fair bit of Spanish, got like intermediate level Spanish and just like just got into hiking and things like that on a trip to the Amazon jungle.
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Emmet
Done a trip to the Amazon jungle. But that freedom, I took a year out of my job that time.
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Daithi Flannery
But that freedom, I took a year out of my job that time.
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Emmet
dad how Having a full year off, I remember many, many times in South America thinking like, oh my God, I have a year with no work.
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Daithi Flannery
dad how Having a full year off, I remember many, many times in South America thinking like, oh my God, I have a year with no work.
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Emmet
You know, after working for 15 years, like, and since I was 17, I was 37 when I went to South America.
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Daithi Flannery
You know, after working for 15 years, like and since I was 17, I was 37 when I went to South America.
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Emmet
So like for working for like 20 years, yeah you know, loads of holidays, loads of travels in between.
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Daithi Flannery
I started working for 20 years. yeah You know, loads of holidays, loads of travels in between, don't get me wrong, had a great life.
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Emmet
Don't get me wrong. Had a great life. But like to be over in South America, about money in the bank.
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Daithi Flannery
But like to be over in South America, about money in the bank,
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Emmet
Yeah.
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Daithi Flannery
yeah
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Emmet
eventually after a few months having a good grasp on the language.
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Daithi Flannery
eventually after a few months having a good grasp on the language.
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Daithi Flannery
That was a game changer for the trip as well. What was the game changer element of going for yourself?
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Emmet
That was a game changer for the trip as well.
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Emmet
What what what was the game changing element of gone by yourself? Number one, it pushed me to learn a language, but I already had, like I was, I was very, very interested in learning Spanish.
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Daithi Flannery
Number one, it pushed me to learn a language, but I already had like, i so I was very, very interested in learning Spanish.
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Emmet
I really liked the language.
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Daithi Flannery
I really liked the language. So I picked it up pretty fast, but that was one of the number one things.
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Emmet
So I picked it up pretty fast, but that was one of the number one things. Number two, you have to be more outgoing.
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Daithi Flannery
Number two, you have to be more outgoing.
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Emmet
Okay.
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Daithi Flannery
Okay.
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Daithi Flannery
You know, so if you go to a hostel on your own, you know, you got to make a bit more of an effort yeah to be social and to be open and stuff like that.
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Emmet
You know, so if you go to a hostel on your own, you know, you got to make a bit more of an effort yeah to be social and to be outbound and stuff like that.
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Emmet
And, uh, rather than when you have a friend with you, like rather than when you have a friend with you and also die, like, it's like, just to be able to do your own thing, man, the game changer, go where you want, when you want, do what you want.
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Daithi Flannery
And, uh, rather than when you have a friend with you, like rather than when you have a friend with you and also die, like, it's like, just to be able to do your own thing, man, the game changer, go where you want, when you want, do what you want.
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Emmet
And I feel like when you go, when you, uh,
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Daithi Flannery
And I feel like when you go, when you, uh,
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Emmet
when you bring people from home with you, when you travel from Ireland and you bring people, there's theres no reinventing yourself as in you you're always kind of ah cognizant that this person knows me and has expectations of how I act in certain situations.
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Daithi Flannery
when you bring people from home with you, when you travel from Ireland and you bring people, but there's there's no reinventing yourself as in you you're always kind of a cognizant that this person knows me and has expectations of how I act in certain situations.
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Emmet
And we always kind of act according to that a little bit.
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Daithi Flannery
And we always kind of act according to that a little bit.
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Daithi Flannery
Whereas when you're by yourself, you can completely reinvent yourself and be who you truly are, your authentic self on your own almost.
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Emmet
Whereas when you're by yourself, you can completely reinvent yourself and be who you truly are, your authentic self on your own almost.
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Emmet
that's very true yeah yeah yeah yeah that resonates a lot what you're saying yeah it's very very true yeah yeah i think i think traveling by yourself for them reasons is is important it's a game changer what was your first first moment of introduction to yoga
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Daithi Flannery
that's very true yeah yeah yeah yeah that resonates a lot what you're saying yeah it's really very true yeah yeah i think i think traveling by yourself for them reasons is is important it's a game changer what was your first first moment of introduction to yoga
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Emmet
i said but I had done classes here like prior to Mexico.
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Daithi Flannery
i said but I had done classes here like prior to Mexico.
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Emmet
Just to clarify, I went to Mexico in May 2021 after I thought quit my job when I was down in South America.
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Daithi Flannery
Just to clarify, I went to Mexico in May 2021 after I quit my job when I was down in South America. That was 2016.
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Emmet
That was 2016.
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Daithi Flannery
So that was a bit of a process in between.
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Emmet
So that was a bit of a process in between. ah Yeah, that freedom.
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Daithi Flannery
ah yeah that freedom I kind of discovered winly when I was down in South America when I came back to go back into my job and back into the same life yeah just like it wasn't for me you know it felt different then felt different yeah I felt a bit trapped after a while no I was happy enough when I came back initially but after six months a year a year and a half and I kind of
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Emmet
I kind of discovered we' say when I was down in South America, when I came back to go back into my job and back into the same life. Yeah, just like it wasn't for me. you know It felt different then. Felt different, yeah. I felt a bit trapped after a while. No, I was happy enough when I came back initially, but after six months, a year, a year and a half, and I kind of over the course of time I suppose I like at first I began to like really dislike my job and that turned into like really like just dreadness and hate-ness and i've I've worked in that same factory a couple of times and it's actually one of the best factories to work in for lads like ourselves anyways do you know there's ah there's always there's a bunch of heads in there we know there's always been a crack bone on and
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Daithi Flannery
over the course of time I used to pause I like at first I began to like really dislike my job and that turned into like really like just dreadness and hate-ness and i've I've worked in that same factory a couple of times and it's actually one of the best factories to work in for lads like ourselves anyways do you know there's always there's a bunch of heads in there we know there's i always bit a bit of crack going on and
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Emmet
I think they've ah's it's kind of a good work-life balance in there.
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Daithi Flannery
I think they've ah's it's kind of a good work-life balance in there.
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Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean? As much as you can have in the factory settings.
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Emmet
Do you know what I mean?
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Emmet
As much as you can have in the factory settings. I think it's pretty good.
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Daithi Flannery
I think it's pretty good.
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Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
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Emmet
Yeah.
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Emmet
So I guess that's probably the way you were thinking for the first 15 years in there.
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Daithi Flannery
So I guess that's probably the way you were thinking for the first 15 years in there. First 10 years.
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Emmet
First 10 years, yeah, exactly.
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Daithi Flannery
Yeah, exactly.
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Emmet
and It's a good job to me.
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Daithi Flannery
It's a good job to me. it It's hurt me well.
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Emmet
It served me well. And I'm very grateful for it.
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Daithi Flannery
And I'm very grateful for it.
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Emmet
you know Like I said, I lived a good life when I worked there.
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Daithi Flannery
you know Like I said, I lived a good life when I worked there. yeah But when I came back,
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Emmet
yeah But when I came back, that 10 months of unbelievable freedom was just like, yeah it just opened you up in a way.
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Daithi Flannery
That 10 months of unbelievable freedom was just like, yeah it just opened you up in a way.
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Emmet
I don't know. I don't even know how to put it into words, you know?
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Daithi Flannery
I don't even know how to put it into words, you know?
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Daithi Flannery
But it just changed me. It changed me.
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Emmet
But i it just changed me.
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Emmet
It changed me. Everything I thought was my life and was going to be in my life when I came back was like, this is not it.
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Daithi Flannery
Everything I thought was my life and was going to be my life when I came back was like, this is not it.
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Daithi Flannery
yeah Shit.
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Emmet
yeah Shit.
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Emmet
yeah gotcha What am I going to do now?
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Daithi Flannery
yeah gotcha What am I going to do now?
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Emmet
You know, and there was a lot of contemplation and looking at college courses and this, that, and the other.
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Daithi Flannery
You know, and there was a lot of contemplation and looking at college courses and just that and the other.
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Emmet
And like, you know, like at first I'd went to work on it, but thinking, Jesus, I remember first thinking like, Jesus, I think I want to get out of this place, you know?
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Daithi Flannery
And like, you know, I got first, I went to work and I would think in Jesus, I remember first thinking like, Jesus, I think I want to get out of this place, you know, and I'd go into work the next day and they' be like, no, no, this is a great job.
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Emmet
And I'd go into work the next day and it'd be like, no, no, this is a great job. You're mad.
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Daithi Flannery
You're mad.
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Daithi Flannery
yeah Don't be thinking that, you know, and I was kind of back and forth with it for a long time, you know, and
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Emmet
yeah Don't be thinking that, you know?
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Emmet
And I was kind of back and forth with it for a long time, you know? And. Yeah.
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Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
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Emmet
Then I was reading books and things like that.
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Daithi Flannery
Then I was reading books and things like that.
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Emmet
And the only good thing is like, I was able to listen to music and stuff like that in work.
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Daithi Flannery
And the only good thing is like, I was able to listen to music and stuff like that in work.
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Daithi Flannery
So I was using that time to listen to audio books a lot.
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Emmet
So I was using that time to listen to audio books a lot.
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Emmet
So I was kind of kept me going the last few years.
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Daithi Flannery
So I was kind of kept me going the last few years.
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Emmet
I was thinking I had the perception, like I'm getting paid to educate myself.
00:09:47
Daithi Flannery
I was thinking I had the perception, like I'm getting paid to educate myself. You know, I could pair noise cancellation headphones and I can use them in work.
00:09:52
Emmet
You know, I could pair noise cancellation headphones and I can use them in work. So I just listened to audio book after audio book and after audio book and eventually.
00:09:56
Daithi Flannery
So I just listened to audio book after audio book and after audio book and eventually listen again to the stage, the pandemic hit.
00:10:01
Emmet
Listen, I came to the stage, the pandemic hit. We were a year into that.
00:10:03
Daithi Flannery
We were a year into that.
00:10:05
Emmet
And I was just, I was unhappy.
00:10:05
Daithi Flannery
And I was just, I was unhappy. I wasn't, I wasn't happy in my life, you know?
00:10:06
Emmet
I wasn't, I wasn't happy in my life, you know? And I was hating my job.
00:10:08
Daithi Flannery
And I was hating my job.
00:10:11
Emmet
And I needed a change in my life.
00:10:11
Daithi Flannery
And I needed a change in my life.
00:10:14
Daithi Flannery
I needed a change in my life.
00:10:14
Emmet
I needed a change in my life.
00:10:15
Emmet
And I didn't know what that change.
00:10:15
Daithi Flannery
And I didn't know what that change.
00:10:17
Emmet
was going to be or even needed to be.
00:10:17
Daithi Flannery
was going to be or even needed to be.
00:10:20
Daithi Flannery
you know i I feel like there's a lot of people out there like that.
00:10:20
Emmet
you know yeah i I feel like there's a lot of people out there like that.
00:10:24
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely.
00:10:24
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:10:25
Emmet
And I feel really blessed to have been able to do what I've done.
00:10:25
Daithi Flannery
And I feel really blessed to have been able to do what I don't you know.
00:10:29
Emmet
you know I didn't have kids to mortgage and anything like that.
00:10:29
Daithi Flannery
I didn't have kids to mortgage and anything like that.
00:10:31
Emmet
And there's loads of lads in numerous factories around the world like that.
00:10:31
Daithi Flannery
And there's loads of lads in numerous factories around the world like that. But yeah, it's a great job.
00:10:36
Emmet
But yeah, it's a great job if you need it for them things.
00:10:38
Daithi Flannery
If you need it for them things, you have the security, the healthcare,
00:10:39
Emmet
You have the security, the health care. The bonus is financially, it's it's great.
00:10:42
Daithi Flannery
The bonuses financially, it's great.
00:10:44
Daithi Flannery
You have security if you need it, but it just wasn't for me.
00:10:44
Emmet
You have security if you need it, but it just wasn't for me.
00:10:48
Emmet
It wasn't for me.
00:10:48
Daithi Flannery
It wasn't for me.
00:10:49
Daithi Flannery
ah where did Where did you find out about at the yoga then or yoga in general? This particular school I found in Mexico.
00:10:49
Emmet
ah where did Where did you find out about hatha yoga then or yoga in general?
00:10:54
Emmet
This particular school I found in Mexico. yeah So I decided to pull the trigger on it.
00:10:56
Daithi Flannery
yeah So I decided to pull the trigger on it.
00:10:58
Daithi Flannery
I was leaving my job and I was going to Mexico. Mexico was like one of the only countries in the world. I was still open to travel yeah a year into the pandemic.
00:10:58
Emmet
I was leaving my job and I was going to Mexico and Mexico was like one of the only countries in the world that was still open to travel yeah a year into the pandemic.
00:11:06
Emmet
And I had a really good Mexican friend that lived in Galway here for two years.
00:11:06
Daithi Flannery
And I had a really good Mexican friend that lived in Galway for two years.
00:11:09
Emmet
so She went home because of the pandemic.
00:11:10
Daithi Flannery
She went home because of the pandemic. So when she was in Mexico, I used to, I stayed in touch with her and I used to be chatting to her every few weeks and she was telling me, yeah, there are restrictions here in Mexico, but but it's open for travel.
00:11:12
Emmet
So when she was in Mexico, I used to, I stayed in touch with her and I used to be chatting to her every few weeks and she was telling me, yeah, there are restrictions here in Mexico, but but it's so open for travel.
00:11:22
Emmet
And I was checking it out on the internet and stuff as well.
00:11:22
Daithi Flannery
And I was checking it out on the internet and stuff as well.
00:11:24
Emmet
And yeah, eventually I said, no regrets.
00:11:24
Daithi Flannery
And yeah, eventually I said, no regrets. Like i you didn't know about the school when you left.
00:11:28
Emmet
You didn't know about the school when you left. I didn't know about, I knew about the school when I'm left, but I i found out about the school only like two, three months before I went.
00:11:30
Daithi Flannery
I didn't know about, I knew about the school when I left, but ah i I found out about the school only like two, three months before I went. Okay.
00:11:36
Emmet
You know?
00:11:36
Daithi Flannery
You know, so.
00:11:37
Emmet
so I was planning the trip a few months before I left from Mexico.
00:11:38
Daithi Flannery
I was planning the trip a few months before I Left from Mexico.
00:11:43
Emmet
I was thinking to myself, if I'm going to be gone for another year or 10 months or whatever, uh, I'd like to do a bit of volunteering, working hostels and things like that to fund a trip.
00:11:43
Daithi Flannery
I was thinking to myself if I'm gonna be gone for another year or ten months or whatever I'd like to do a bit of volunteering work in hostels and things like that to fund a trip I seen many many people that were doing that down in South America in 2016 Working at hostels working in a bar doing a bit of clean and whatnot get a free bed in the meal, you know, but
00:11:53
Emmet
I seen many, many people that were doing that down in South America in 2016, working at hostels, working in a bar, doing a bit of clean and whatnot, get a free bed in the meal, you know, but.
00:12:07
Emmet
Yeah, I suppose there was about 42, 43 years old as well.
00:12:07
Daithi Flannery
yeah I suppose that was what, 42, 43 years old and and I wasn't interested in partying or any of that stuff anymore.
00:12:10
Emmet
And I wasn't interested in partying or any of that stuff anymore. Them days were long gone.
00:12:13
Daithi Flannery
Them days were long gone. yeah So anyways, a light thought went off in my head one evening, and sitting at home and my apartment.
00:12:15
Emmet
yeah So anyways, a light bulb went off in my head one evening, sitting at home in my apartment. And I just thought to myself, ah check out like.
00:12:19
Daithi Flannery
And I just thought to myself, ah check out like.
00:12:22
Daithi Flannery
meditation and yoga retreats in places like that, and it's around nowhere like that, that needs volunteers.
00:12:22
Emmet
meditation and yoga retreats in places like that and is there anywhere like that that needs volunteers.
00:12:29
Daithi Flannery
So I googled it, schools, the yoga schools, retreats and things like that in Mexico, and this school popped up called Ridaia in a place called Masante in Mexico. It's down on the Pacific coast, south of Mexico, in a state called Oaxaca.
00:12:29
Emmet
So I googled it, schools, the yoga schools, retreats and things like that in Mexico and this school popped up called Ridaia in a place called Masante in Mexico.
00:12:37
Emmet
It's down on the Pacific coast, south of Mexico in a state called Oaxaca. And I just really liked the look of the school.
00:12:42
Daithi Flannery
And I just really liked the look of the school.
00:12:44
Daithi Flannery
I just found myself just, I kept going on the website, reading about the yoga retreats, reading about the silent meditation retreats.
00:12:44
Emmet
I just found myself just, I kept going on the website, reading about the yoga retreats, reading about the silent meditation retreats.
00:12:52
Daithi Flannery
And, uh, it was in a place called Masunde, like I said, I really liked the look of the place, very kind of yogi hippies kind of vibes.
00:12:52
Emmet
And, uh, it was in a place called Massante.
00:12:54
Emmet
Like I said, I really liked the look of the place, very kind of yogi hippies kind of vibes. It was on the beach, tropical paradise.
00:12:59
Daithi Flannery
It was on the beach, tropical paradise. Why not?
00:13:02
Emmet
So I decided, yeah, that's what I was going to do.
00:13:03
Daithi Flannery
So know but decided, yeah, that's what I was going to do. You know?
00:13:05
Emmet
You know? Okay, so you knew when you were leaving, that's your plan?
00:13:06
Daithi Flannery
okay so you knew when you were leaving that's your yeah yeah the plan was I wasn't into yoga in any serious way I had done some classes in Galway but like like myself when I was like most people um I I have two experiences with yoga and both of them were when
00:13:08
Emmet
Yeah, the plan was I wasn't into yoga in any serious way. I had done some classes in Galway. Like myself, and I suppose like most people, um I have two experiences with yoga and both of them were when I went with my daughter to a hot yoga class and we spent most of the time laughing at my inability to get into the positions that that all all these really young fucking light people were able to manipulate themselves and I was just falling over on time with seven knots but it was good fun I enjoyed it but I never i got into it or experienced it in the kind of deep and philosophical way that that you've after
00:13:22
Daithi Flannery
I went with my daughter to a hot yoga class. And we spent most of the time laughing at my inability to get into the positions that all all these really young fucking light people were able to manipulate themselves. And I was just falling over in time. myself and nu But it was good fun. I enjoyed it. But I never i got into it or experienced it in the kind of deep and philosophical way that Juve after
00:13:49
Daithi Flannery
getting into it. You know what I mean? It was just about trying to get a bit flexible for me. Yeah. you know So I guess that's what most people think yoga is really is just. Yeah. I used to go like when I'd get injured from lift them weights or something like that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I went to the school and yeah, the plan was go there.
00:13:49
Emmet
getting into it you know what I mean it was just about trying to get a bit flexible for me yeah you know so I guess that's what most people think yoga is really is just yeah I used to go like when I'd get injured from lift them weights or something like that you know what I mean yeah yeah but yeah I went to this school and yeah the plan was go there
00:14:09
Emmet
to a meditation retreat.
00:14:09
Daithi Flannery
to a meditation retreat. I was interested in meditation.
00:14:10
Emmet
I was interested in meditation. I'd been down to Cork to a Buddhist centre in Cork with a friend of mine back in 2013 or 14 and done like a very short weekend introduction to meditation things.
00:14:11
Daithi Flannery
I'd been down to Cork to a Buddhist centre in Cork with a friend of mine back in 2013 or 14 and done like a very short weekend introduction to meditation things.
00:14:21
Daithi Flannery
So I was interested in meditation and very into spirituality stuff and stuff.
00:14:21
Emmet
So I was interested in meditation and very into spirituality and stuff.
00:14:24
Emmet
and but never actually practicing meditation you know so I had the interest in that and working with my mind and stuff like that you know like I said didn't really know what yoga truly was wasn't too interested in it although it was a yoga school so I went there done my first ever tend to silent meditation retreat
00:14:25
Daithi Flannery
but never actually practicing meditation you know so I had the interest in that and working with my mind and stuff like that you know like I said didn't really know what yoga truly was wasn't too interested in it although it was a yoga school so I went there done my first ever tend to silent meditation retreat so
00:14:42
Emmet
quiet for 10 days not a word hang on no hang on no you're you're from body band like i say hang around the same spots as myself how the fuck do you be quiet for 10 days man and it wasn't easy it wasn't easy is there um something i wondered about that since we last met and talked when you're quiet for 10 days right is there a fucking a giggle or a laugh happen is there any crack in silence basically like does somebody fall over and everybody goes oh no is it just completely
00:14:42
Daithi Flannery
Quiet for 10 days. Not a word. Hang on. No, hang on. No. You're from a body band. Like I say, hang around the same spot. How the fuck you be quiet for 10 days? Man, and it wasn't easy.
00:14:52
Daithi Flannery
It wasn't easy. Is there something I wondered about that since we last met and talked when you're quiet for 10 days, right?
00:15:01
Daithi Flannery
Is there a fucking a giggle or a laugh happen? Is there any crack in silence basically? Like does somebody fall over and everybody goes, or no, is it just completely silent?
00:15:11
Emmet
silent there's a bit of crack listen there's a
00:15:12
Daithi Flannery
there's a bit of crack listen there's a
00:15:16
Emmet
The school I went to there's lectures in the evening, you know, and there is a questions and answers.
00:15:16
Daithi Flannery
The school I went to there's lectures in the evening, you know, and there is a questions and answers.
00:15:20
Emmet
Students don't speak, but if you have questions, could people need support?
00:15:20
Daithi Flannery
Students don't speak, but if you have questions, could people need to support?
00:15:23
Emmet
Yeah.
00:15:23
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:15:23
Emmet
You know, you're meditating for two hours every morning, two and a half hours in the afternoon, you have a one and a half hour happy yoga practice, ah yoga move stuff as well.
00:15:23
Daithi Flannery
You know, you're meditating for two hours every morning, two and a half hours in the afternoon, you have a one and a half hour happy yoga practice, ah yoga move stuff as well, you know, energy emotions, things like that.
00:15:32
Emmet
You know, energy, emotions, things like that. People go through processes, you know, including myself.
00:15:33
Daithi Flannery
People go through processes, you know, including myself, I've done a good few 10 day silent meditation retreats now and it can be a process.
00:15:36
Emmet
I've done a good few 10 day silent meditation retreats now and it can be a process. It can be quite intense.
00:15:40
Daithi Flannery
It can be quite intense. Uh, also can be really, really nice as well.
00:15:42
Emmet
Uh, also can be really, really nice as well.
00:15:44
Daithi Flannery
It's, it's,
00:15:44
Emmet
It's, it's. What do you mean by process there?
00:15:45
Daithi Flannery
What do you mean by process there?
00:15:47
Emmet
Stuff comes up.
00:15:47
Daithi Flannery
Stuff comes up.
00:15:48
Emmet
You know, things, emotional stuff comes up.
00:15:49
Daithi Flannery
Emotion stuff comes up.
00:15:50
Emmet
Traumas and things like that.
00:15:50
Daithi Flannery
Traumas and things like that.
00:15:52
Emmet
and But yet you're not talking.
00:15:52
Daithi Flannery
But yet you're not talking.
00:15:54
Emmet
You're not talking.
00:15:54
Daithi Flannery
You're not talking. You're sitting in silence with whatever's going on inside you.
00:15:55
Emmet
You're sitting in silence with whatever's going on inside you. That's a very powerful thing.
00:15:58
Daithi Flannery
That's a very powerful thing. Because we're not feeling our emotions.
00:16:00
Emmet
Because we're not feeling our emotions.
00:16:01
Daithi Flannery
You have to feel our emotions.
00:16:01
Emmet
You have to feel our emotions.
00:16:03
Daithi Flannery
It's very, very important to feel your emotions.
00:16:03
Emmet
It's very, very important to feel your emotions and to try, at least on some level, being in in tune with what's going on inside you.
00:16:05
Daithi Flannery
And to try, at least on some level, to be in tune with what's going on inside you.
00:16:10
Emmet
This is why.
00:16:10
Daithi Flannery
This is why we're running around constantly distracting ourselves.
00:16:11
Emmet
We're running around constantly distracting ourselves. And this is why I suppose people drink and take drugs and whatnot.
00:16:14
Daithi Flannery
And this is why I suppose people drink and take drugs and whatnot.
00:16:17
Daithi Flannery
And you know, the word is rife with depression now and anxiety and lonelines what loneliness as well.
00:16:17
Emmet
And you know, the word is rife with depression on anxiety and loneliness as well.
00:16:23
Emmet
da Yeah, exactly.
00:16:23
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, exactly.
00:16:27
Emmet
underrated underrated ah and common I think we have an epidemic of loan absolutely couldn't agree with you more a lot of what I put down to we have such a a connected world no and air quotes in because of the internet and stuff but it's not actual genuine connection we're getting
00:16:27
Daithi Flannery
underrated. Underrated ah and common. I think we have an epidemic of loneliness. Absolutely. I couldn't agree with you more. A lot of it I put down to we have such ah a connected world now at airports in in in because of the internet and stuff, but it's not actual genuine connection we're getting.
00:16:44
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:16:44
Daithi Flannery
absolutely and it's not genuine emotion we're feeling it's these triggers and these stimulus responses that that are that have been worked on and they're affecting us all the time you know yeah up to 90 like up to 90 up to 90 our minds are flying as I said we we used to be able to sit on the toilet and once you've read the back of the shampoo bottle
00:16:44
Emmet
And it's not genuine emotion we're feeling. It's these triggers and these stimulus responses that that are that have been worked on and they're affecting us all the time, you know? Yeah. We're up to 90, like.
00:16:55
Emmet
Up to 90. Up to 90. Our minds are flying. As I said, we we used to be able to sit on the toilet and want you to read the back of the shampoo bottle.
00:17:02
Daithi Flannery
that arm to shanks a couple of times next thing you're sitting there thinking to yourself and it was some sort of introspection or little meditation it was a little bit of quiet time with just you yeah but no nobody even reads the shampoo bottle anymore because the phone is the first thing that comes out of the pocket phones phones yeah are all times Yeah.
00:17:02
Emmet
that I'm a kid shanks a couple of times. Next thing you're sitting there thinking to yourself and it was some sort of introspection or little meditation, it was a little a little bit of quiet time with just you. Yeah. No, nobody even reads the shampoo bottle anymore.
00:17:15
Emmet
Because the phone is the first thing that comes out of the pocket phones, phones, yeah, are all times Yeah.
Philosophical Reflections on Human Connection
00:17:20
Emmet
Thank you.
00:17:20
Daithi Flannery
Thank you.
00:17:20
Emmet
So we're very disconnected.
00:17:20
Daithi Flannery
So we're very disconnected.
00:17:22
Emmet
Loneliness as well.
00:17:22
Daithi Flannery
Loneliness is right.
00:17:22
Emmet
Yeah.
00:17:23
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:17:23
Emmet
Loneliness like it's, it's, yeah, we're disconnected from whom what we are.
00:17:23
Daithi Flannery
Loneliness is like, it's just, yeah, we're disconnected from who and what we are.
00:17:26
Emmet
We forgotten.
00:17:26
Daithi Flannery
We forgotten.
00:17:26
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:17:27
Emmet
Yeah.
00:17:27
Emmet
Whom what we are, you know, we're very social creatures.
00:17:27
Daithi Flannery
Who and what we are, you know? We're very social creatures.
00:17:29
Emmet
Human beings.
00:17:30
Daithi Flannery
Human beings, we need, we need human connection.
00:17:30
Emmet
We need, we need human connection and not true phones and not true technology or any of this, you know, full bodied human connection.
00:17:33
Daithi Flannery
And not true phones and not true technology or any of this, you know? Full-bodied human connection.
00:17:39
Emmet
That's it, you know, emotional connection, you know, healthy relationships, things like that.
00:17:39
Daithi Flannery
That's it, you know, emotional connection, you know, healthy relationships, things like that.
00:17:43
Emmet
Yeah.
00:17:43
Daithi Flannery
yeah You know, so if you're going, if you, if you went to 10 days of mountain, as we call it, mountain means noble silence.
00:17:43
Emmet
You know, so if you're going, if you, if you're going to 10 days of Mauna, as we call it, Mauna means noble silence. It's a Sanskrit word.
00:17:48
Daithi Flannery
It's a Sanskrit word.
00:17:49
Emmet
Okay. Ah, yeah.
00:17:50
Daithi Flannery
Ah, yeah.
00:17:51
Emmet
You're really, really,
00:17:51
Daithi Flannery
You're really, really,
00:17:53
Emmet
really have to tune in.
00:17:53
Daithi Flannery
really have to tune in.
00:17:54
Emmet
You really have to confront yourself.
00:17:54
Daithi Flannery
You really have to confront yourself.
00:17:56
Daithi Flannery
You really have to confront yourself.
00:17:56
Emmet
You really have to confront yourself.
00:17:57
Emmet
You're sitting with your mind.
00:17:57
Daithi Flannery
You're sitting with your mind.
00:17:59
Emmet
you know You're not talking.
00:17:59
Daithi Flannery
you know You're not talking.
00:18:00
Emmet
A lot of support at the school now.
00:18:00
Daithi Flannery
A lot of support at the school now.
00:18:02
Emmet
You have a senior teacher giving the lectures, guiding the classes, guiding the meditations.
00:18:02
Daithi Flannery
You have a senior teacher giving the lectures, guiding the classes, guiding the meditations. You'll have two monitors, which are two, I would say, less senior teachers or apprentice teachers.
00:18:06
Emmet
You'll have two monitors, which are two, I would say, less senior teachers or apprentice teachers. I've done this myself.
00:18:12
Daithi Flannery
I've done this myself.
00:18:14
Emmet
And they're segregation, so you'll have female and one side male on the other side for no distractions and things like that.
00:18:14
Daithi Flannery
And they're segregation, so you'll have female and one side male on the other side for no distractions and things like that.
00:18:19
Daithi Flannery
Perfectly understandable.
00:18:19
Emmet
Perfectly understandable.
00:18:21
Daithi Flannery
ah Yeah, so you'll have a female monitor watching over the females and you'll have a male monitor watching over the males and they're just keeping an eye on people some people I've seen people go through like Very very intense processes like people come there To try and get over addictions people come there I've seen people come to this school that are processing grief the last of a loved one All sorts of traumas abuses things like that, you know, it's it's it's a very powerful thing It's a place of really deep healing, you know.
00:18:21
Emmet
ah Yeah, so you'll have a female monitor watching over the females and you'll have a male monitor watching over the males and they're just keeping an eye on people some people I've seen people go through like Very very intense processes like people come there To try and get over addictions people come there I've seen people come to this school that are processing grief The last of a loved one all sorts of traumas abuses things like that, you know, it's it's it's a very powerful thing It's a place of really deep healing, you know
00:18:51
Emmet
that that that word you used confronting you used that a few times as well when i was when we had tea together and I've taught about it since and I wouldn't ah it's not something I've necessarily have associated with like yoga or something do you know what I mean that there's a not a violence to it but there's a
00:18:51
Daithi Flannery
That that that word you used, confronting, you used that a few times as well when i was when we had tea together and I've taught about it since and I wouldn't, a it's not something I've necessarily have associated with like yoga or something.
00:19:07
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean? There's a, not a violence to it, but there's a
00:19:13
Daithi Flannery
I don't know, there's there ah there's a there's a conflict to it or something.
00:19:13
Emmet
I don't know, there's there's ah there's a there's a conflict to it or something.
00:19:16
Emmet
you know There's ah a confronting and but really what you're confronting is you sound for yourself.
00:19:16
Daithi Flannery
you know that There's ah a confronting, and but really what you're confronting is you know sad for yourself.
00:19:22
Daithi Flannery
Yourself.
00:19:22
Emmet
Yourself.
00:19:23
Emmet
What's going on in your mind?
00:19:23
Daithi Flannery
What's going on in your mind?
00:19:24
Emmet
What's going on in your head?
00:19:24
Daithi Flannery
What's going on in your head?
00:19:25
Emmet
Are you at peace?
00:19:25
Daithi Flannery
Are you at peace?
00:19:26
Emmet
You might think you're at peace.
00:19:26
Daithi Flannery
You might think you're at peace.
00:19:28
Emmet
Sit with yourself in silence for 10 days.
00:19:28
Daithi Flannery
Sit with your yourself in silence for 10 days.
00:19:30
Emmet
Close your eyes for a couple of more hours every morning and two and a half hours in the afternoon and don't speak to anybody for 10 days and see what's going on.
00:19:30
Daithi Flannery
Close your eyes. for a couple of more hours every morning and two and a half hours in the afternoon and don't speak to anybody for 10 days and see what's going on.
00:19:38
Emmet
then you'll know.
00:19:38
Daithi Flannery
Then you'll know.
00:19:39
Emmet
See what's going on, then you'll know.
00:19:39
Daithi Flannery
See what's going on, then you'll know.
00:19:40
Daithi Flannery
So what you're confronting is yourself.
00:19:40
Emmet
So what you're confronting is your yourself.
00:19:42
Daithi Flannery
Yes, exactly.
00:19:42
Emmet
Yes, exactly.
00:19:44
Emmet
And listen, I always say it like these d days de silent retreats, they're a real roller coaster, but such is life.
00:19:44
Daithi Flannery
And listen, I always say it like these d days these silent retreats, they're a real roller coaster. Such is life. Yeah. you know 10 days can be like there can be such a shift such a change in you in 10 days from when you enter into silence for 10 days and when you come out the other end and everything in between it's fucking amazing man i'm serious like it can be so up and down in the course of a few days yeah
00:19:51
Emmet
Yeah. You know? Yeah. 10 days can be like, there can be such a shift, such a change in you in 10 days from when you enter into silence for 10 days and when you come out the other end and everything in between.
00:20:03
Emmet
It's fucking amazing, man. I'm serious. Like it can be so up and down in the course of a few days. yeah which just shows how the mind is the mind is a funny thing it's crazy you see when you see meditation and you observe it observe what's going on this is this is the idea of meditation people think meditation should be like blissful and peaceful and everything and and i'm telling you meditation is work you know yeah but it bears fruit i just i just want to read you something ass as look philosophy and psychology is kind of my game but
00:20:09
Daithi Flannery
Which just shows us how the mind is. The mind is a funny thing. It's crazy. you see When you see meditation and you observe it, observe what's going on. This is this is the idea of meditation. People think meditation should be like, blissful and peaceful and everything. and And I'm telling you, meditation is work, you know? yeah But it bears fruit. I just want to read you something. Look, philosophy and psychology is kind of my game. but
00:20:34
Emmet
Well, it's where am my interests like and where my education has been and that stuff.
00:20:34
Daithi Flannery
Well, it's it's a where am my interest like and where my education has been and stuff.
00:20:37
Emmet
But there's so much that now I've been doing a bit of research on yoga and stuff as well and meditation and there's so much crossover.
00:20:37
Daithi Flannery
But there's so much that now I've been doing a bit of research on yoga and stuff as well in meditation. And there's so much crossover.
00:20:46
Emmet
There's so many philosophers who talk about solitude as being super important.
00:20:46
Daithi Flannery
There's so many philosophers who talk about solitude as being super important.
00:20:52
Emmet
um so How are you going to know yourself?
00:20:52
Daithi Flannery
um so How are you going to know yourself?
00:20:53
Emmet
how are you goingnna How are you going to find yourself if you don't have solitude?
00:20:53
Daithi Flannery
How are you going to how are you going to find yourself if you don't have solitude that there's one guy Pascal, he said,
00:20:57
Emmet
There's one guy Pascal, he said, All of the world's pro troubles come from man's inability to be able to sit in a room with himself.
00:21:00
Daithi Flannery
All of the world's pro troubles come from man's inability to be able to sit in a room with himself.
00:21:07
Emmet
you know the There you go.
00:21:07
Daithi Flannery
you know the There you go.
00:21:08
Emmet
you know Yeah, exactly.
00:21:08
Daithi Flannery
you know Yeah, exactly.
00:21:09
Emmet
a Man's inability to sit in a room by himself.
00:21:09
Daithi Flannery
a Man's inability to sit in a room by himself.
00:21:11
Emmet
Yeah.
00:21:11
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:21:12
Emmet
I just want to read you something from one of my favorite dudes who is Frederick Nietzsche.
00:21:12
Daithi Flannery
I just want to read you something from one of my favorite dudes who is Frederick Nietzsche.
00:21:17
Emmet
And for him, solitude is a key aspect of self-affirmation and finding the self.
00:21:17
Daithi Flannery
And for him, solitude is a key aspect of self-affirmation and finding the self.
00:21:22
Emmet
The individual has always led to struggle
00:21:22
Daithi Flannery
The individual has always led to struggle
00:21:26
Emmet
as always The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
00:21:26
Daithi Flannery
As always, the individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe.
00:21:32
Emmet
If you try it, you will be lonely often and sometimes frightened.
00:21:32
Daithi Flannery
If you try it, you will be lonely often and sometimes frightened.
00:21:37
Emmet
But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
00:21:37
Daithi Flannery
But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
00:21:42
Emmet
Loneliness is one thing.
00:21:42
Daithi Flannery
Loneliness is one thing.
00:21:44
Emmet
It's a state of lack.
00:21:44
Daithi Flannery
It's a state of lack.
00:21:46
Emmet
Solitude another.
00:21:46
Daithi Flannery
Solitude another.
00:21:47
Emmet
It's a state of fullness.
00:21:47
Daithi Flannery
It's a state of fullness. Yeah, that's powerful stuff, you know?
00:21:50
Emmet
Yes, but that's powerful stuff, you know? But that's but that's kind of that's philosophy.
00:21:52
Daithi Flannery
but that's But that's kind of, that's philosophy.
00:21:54
Emmet
So that's a guy
00:21:54
Daithi Flannery
So that's a guy
00:21:57
Emmet
common to the same conclusions as these yoga teachers, as this yoga, as this meditation.
00:21:57
Daithi Flannery
common to the same conclusions as these yoga teachers, as this yoga, as this meditation.
00:22:03
Emmet
It seems to be popping up everywhere.
00:22:03
Daithi Flannery
It seems to be popping up everywhere.
00:22:05
Emmet
And when I looked into yoga, it it's like one lady was telling saying it was 10,000 years old.
00:22:05
Daithi Flannery
And when I looked into yoga, it it's like one lady was telling saying it was 10,000 years old.
00:22:12
Emmet
Yeah, they're they're about from what I know.
00:22:12
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, they're about from what I know.
00:22:14
Emmet
What this lady, her explanation was that when people first came across agriculture and they started becoming static,
00:22:14
Daithi Flannery
What this lady, her explanation was that when people first came across agriculture and they started becoming static,
00:22:22
Emmet
that a lot of them didn't like that way of living and they wanted to be more with nature rather than using nature and so they went back into the woods in the forest and practiced yoga and practiced connecting with nature and that was kind of the birth of it.
00:22:22
Daithi Flannery
that a lot of them didn't like that way of living and they wanted to be more with nature rather than using nature and so they went back into the woods in the forest and practiced yoga and practiced connecting with nature and that was kind of the birth of it.
00:22:36
Emmet
I don't know and nobody was writing down things 10,000 years ago so we're maybe not sure but it's a nice story and it follows
00:22:36
Daithi Flannery
I don't know and nobody was writing down things 10,000 years ago so we're maybe not sure but it's a nice story and it follows
00:22:43
Emmet
the line of thinking of yoga was from manas, you know what I mean?
00:22:43
Daithi Flannery
the line of thinking of yoga was from manas, you know what I mean?
00:22:46
Emmet
this Yeah, my understanding is I think it goes back about at at least anyways 5,000 years to like the Vedas, you know, and then after that came the Upanishads and then there's like the Bhagavad Gita, Yoga Sutras, like I call it Patanjali and there's many different styles of yoga as well, different even different philosophies but suppose it all boils down to one thing.
00:22:46
Daithi Flannery
there's Yeah, my understanding is I think it goes back about at at least anyways 5,000 years to like the Vedas, you know, and then after that came the Upanishads and then there's like the Bhagavad Gita, Yoga Sutras, like I call it Patanjali and there's many different styles of yoga as well, different even different philosophies but suppose it all boils down to one thing.
00:23:07
Emmet
You know, like the word actual word yoga yoga means union, union with God or union with the divine source of your being, yeah you know, whatever that may be.
00:23:07
Daithi Flannery
You know, like the were actual word your yoga means union, union with God or union with the divine source of your being, yeah you know, whatever that may be.
00:23:17
Emmet
some people sell everything else every yeah Some people call it the universe, some people call it God, the divine, yeah you know, ah words are like, like the
00:23:18
Daithi Flannery
Some people call it the universe, some people call it God, the divine, yeah you know, ah words are like, like the,
00:23:26
Emmet
Like they said, in the in the Tao Te Ching, the first lines of the Tao Te Ching, and the the Tao that can be spoken is not the Tao.
00:23:26
Daithi Flannery
Like they said, in the in the Tao Te Ching, the first lines of the Tao Te Ching, and the the Tao that can be spoken is not the Tao. So no matter what we call it, that's just a word to represent it.
00:23:32
Emmet
So no matter what we call it, that's just a word to represent it. It's ineffable, which means it can't be explained.
00:23:36
Daithi Flannery
It's ineffable, which means it can't be explained.
00:23:37
Emmet
yeah words cant word Words cannot explain it, you know?
00:23:37
Daithi Flannery
yeah words cant word Words cannot explain it, you know?
00:23:40
Emmet
Is this where the silent retreat then
00:23:40
Daithi Flannery
Is this where the silent retreat then
00:23:44
Emmet
takes the words away.
00:23:44
Daithi Flannery
takes the words away.
00:23:46
Emmet
So it just leaves you with just yourself and that the universe, do God, whatever you want.
00:23:46
Daithi Flannery
So it just leaves you with just yourself and that the universe, thou God, whatever you want.
00:23:52
Emmet
Yeah, with yourself.
00:23:52
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, with yourself, with yourself.
00:23:55
Emmet
Yeah.
Yoga, Purification, and Spiritual Awakening
00:23:55
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:23:55
Daithi Flannery
But I suppose like the whole idea of yoga, and especially hatha yoga as well, like purification is a big part of hatha yoga.
00:23:55
Emmet
But I suppose like the whole idea of yoga, and especially hatha yoga as well, like purification is a big part of hatha yoga.
00:24:02
Emmet
Firstly, purification of like your physical body, then your mental body, and then your emotional body, you know, because like,
00:24:02
Daithi Flannery
Firstly, purification of like your physical body, then your mental body, and then your emotional body, you know, because like,
00:24:10
Emmet
From a yogic perspective, like your true being, like who and what you really are is like obscured by the mind, or you could call it also the ego, you know?
00:24:10
Daithi Flannery
From a yogic perspective, like your true being, like who and what you really are is like obscured by the mind, or you could call it also the ego, you know?
00:24:19
Emmet
So like through the practice of meditation and through the practice of yoga, it's just to kind of break through them layers of conditioning.
00:24:19
Daithi Flannery
So like through the practice of meditation and through the practice of yoga, it's just to kind of break through them layers of conditioning.
00:24:27
Emmet
Again, from a yogic perspective, that goes back lifetimes, you know?
00:24:27
Daithi Flannery
Again, from a yogic perspective, that goes back lifetimes, you know, they believe in reincarnation.
00:24:31
Emmet
They believe in reincarnation. So yeah, from a yogic perspective, it's like, I suppose burning karma, changing your karma.
00:24:33
Daithi Flannery
So yeah, from a yogic perspective, it's like, I suppose burning karma, changing your karma.
00:24:39
Emmet
burning, burning karma, yeah, and kind kind of say, okay, burning, like changing your karma.
00:24:39
Daithi Flannery
burning, burning karma, yeah, and kind kind of say, okay, burning, like changing your karma.
00:24:45
Emmet
So but purifying tendencies and things like that, like old habits, you could call them on song.
00:24:45
Daithi Flannery
So but purifying tendencies and things like that, like old habits, you could call them on song.
00:24:50
Emmet
And these could be habits that are there that have been built up over past lives of conditioning.
00:24:50
Daithi Flannery
And these could be habits that are there that have been built up over past lives of conditioning.
00:24:55
Emmet
Could be, yeah, even past lives, yeah.
00:24:55
Daithi Flannery
Could be, yeah, even past lives, yeah.
00:24:57
Emmet
From a yogic perspective, yeah yeah yeah.
00:24:57
Daithi Flannery
From a yogic perspective, yeah yeah yeah.
00:25:00
Emmet
And I suppose with meditation, that's how you can kind of change them tendencies.
00:25:00
Daithi Flannery
And I suppose with meditation, that's how you can kind of change them tendencies.
00:25:05
Emmet
Or again, in yoga, you would say, purify them tendencies.
00:25:05
Daithi Flannery
Or again, in yoga, it's purified them tendencies.
00:25:08
Emmet
The more we purify ourselves and and our heart, the closer we come to home, what we really are.
00:25:08
Daithi Flannery
The more we purify ourselves and and our heart, the closer we come to home, what we really are.
00:25:16
Emmet
And definitely like ah speaking from my own experience, like the last three and a half years of my life, I'm not the same person I was and before I went to Mexico.
00:25:16
Daithi Flannery
And definitely like ah speaking from my own experience, like the last three and a half years of my life, I'm not the same person I was and before I went to Mexico.
00:25:25
Emmet
What's the biggest difference that you notice?
00:25:25
Daithi Flannery
What's the biggest difference that you notice?
00:25:26
Emmet
this What can you point to some some differences that you notice and just your everyday life?
00:25:26
Daithi Flannery
this What can you point to some some differences that you notice and just your everyday life?
00:25:30
Emmet
So much more tranquil, so much more relaxed.
00:25:30
Daithi Flannery
So much more tranquil, so much more relaxed.
00:25:35
Emmet
I just learned so much.
00:25:35
Daithi Flannery
I just learned so much.
00:25:37
Emmet
I just feel truly blessed to have found the path that I'm on.
00:25:37
Daithi Flannery
I just feel truly blessed to have found the path that I'm on.
00:25:42
Emmet
And and it's only the beginning.
00:25:42
Daithi Flannery
And and it's only the beginning.
00:25:44
Emmet
love say And one thing I love about being on this yoga path or spiritual path or whatever you want to call it is like, you know,
00:25:44
Daithi Flannery
and love say And one thing I love about being on this yoga path or spiritual path or whatever you want to call it is like, you know,
00:25:53
Emmet
You're humbled time and time again, you know, especially in the beginning.
00:25:53
Daithi Flannery
You're humbled time and time again, you know, especially in the beginning.
00:25:56
Emmet
Yeah.
00:25:56
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:25:57
Emmet
Do you know what I mean?
00:25:57
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean?
00:25:57
Emmet
You're doing summer treats and the ego comes in and you think you're, Oh, I got this.
00:25:57
Daithi Flannery
You're doing some retreats and the ego comes in and you think you're, Oh, I got this.
00:26:01
Emmet
And I'm the best yoga here.
00:26:01
Daithi Flannery
And I'm the best yoga here.
00:26:03
Emmet
Exactly.
00:26:03
Daithi Flannery
Exactly.
00:26:04
Emmet
Exactly.
00:26:04
Daithi Flannery
Exactly.
00:26:04
Emmet
And this is what I love about it.
00:26:04
Daithi Flannery
And this is what I love about it.
00:26:06
Emmet
It's like, you would be humbled time and time again, you know, and you will realize that I'm just a little fucking baby here.
00:26:06
Daithi Flannery
It's like, you would be humbled time and time again, you know, and you will realize that I'm just a little fucking baby here.
00:26:11
Emmet
I'm just a little rookie.
00:26:11
Daithi Flannery
I'm just a little rookie.
00:26:13
Emmet
You've done a bit of kickboxing and stuff, didn't you?
00:26:13
Daithi Flannery
You've done a bit of kickboxing and stuff, didn't you?
00:26:15
Daithi Flannery
I did.
00:26:15
Emmet
I did.
00:26:15
Emmet
Yeah, I did.
00:26:15
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, I did.
00:26:16
Emmet
Like getting humbled down in the gym.
00:26:16
Daithi Flannery
Like getting humbled down in the gym.
00:26:18
Emmet
Yeah.
00:26:18
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:26:19
Emmet
Yeah.
00:26:19
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:26:19
Emmet
Yeah.
00:26:19
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:26:19
Emmet
yeah yeah exactly yeah i've been humbling myself a few times i always be home yeah not fun but it's important it's very important but you know what i the more you get humble it's it makes you more humble yeah but i mean i feel like ah it opens you up to a broader experience because there's a certainty ah what what humbling does i feel like both on the kind of spiritual level intellectual level physical level in james
00:26:19
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, yeah exactly I've been humbling myself a few times. i always be home yeah Not fun, but it's important. It's very important. But you know, what i the more you get humble, it makes you more humble.
00:26:32
Daithi Flannery
yeah But I feel like ah it opens you up to a broader experience because there's a certainty. ah what What humbling does, I feel like both on the kind of spiritual level, intellectual level, physical level in James,
00:26:47
Emmet
is that ah it breaks that certainty that people have.
00:26:47
Daithi Flannery
is that ah it breaks that certainty that people have.
00:26:51
Emmet
Do you know what I mean?
00:26:51
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean?
00:26:52
Emmet
It smashes that to say, hang on now.
00:26:52
Daithi Flannery
It smashes that to say, hang on now.
00:26:54
Emmet
You don't know everything about the world.
00:26:54
Daithi Flannery
You don't know everything about the world.
00:26:56
Emmet
You don't even know everything about yourself.
00:26:56
Daithi Flannery
You don't even know everything about yourself.
00:26:57
Emmet
So yeah get that smashed out of you in one way or another.
00:26:57
Daithi Flannery
So yeah get that smashed out of you in one way or another.
00:27:01
Emmet
and then we
00:27:01
Daithi Flannery
and then we
00:27:02
Emmet
try and begin the work of putting it back together.
00:27:02
Daithi Flannery
try and begin the work of putting it back together.
00:27:04
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:27:04
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely. I was having an open mind.
00:27:05
Emmet
I was having an open mind.
00:27:06
Daithi Flannery
It's a huge part.
00:27:06
Emmet
It's a huge part. We're taught that over and over again at the school as well, especially last year when I done so my teacher training in France.
00:27:07
Daithi Flannery
We're taught that over and over again at the school as well, especially last year when I done so my teacher training in France.
00:27:13
Emmet
Yeah.
00:27:13
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:27:13
Emmet
It's like come with that beginner's mind to call us.
00:27:13
Daithi Flannery
It's like, come with that beginner's mind to call us.
00:27:16
Emmet
Always be open.
00:27:16
Daithi Flannery
Always be open.
00:27:17
Emmet
um um Always be willing to learn more.
00:27:17
Daithi Flannery
um um Always be willing to learn more.
00:27:19
Emmet
The only thing you know is that is you you don't know.
00:27:19
Daithi Flannery
The only thing you know is that is you you don't know.
00:27:22
Emmet
You know, we don't know it all.
00:27:22
Daithi Flannery
You know, we don't know it all.
00:27:23
Emmet
Yeah.
00:27:23
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:27:23
Emmet
And we never know it all until when we become fucking enlightened or whatever.
00:27:23
Daithi Flannery
And we never know it all until when we become fucking enlightened or whatever.
00:27:27
Emmet
Yeah.
00:27:27
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:27:28
Emmet
You know.
00:27:28
Daithi Flannery
You know.
00:27:29
Emmet
Yeah.
00:27:29
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:27:29
Emmet
You know.
00:27:29
Daithi Flannery
You know.
00:27:30
Emmet
But is that enlightened place
00:27:30
Daithi Flannery
But is that enlightened place
00:27:33
Emmet
um you see this is where Nietzsche got to as well and something i really admire about him uh is that we have to kind of live in a place of ambiguity we have to live in a place of unknowing we have to become comfortable in a place of unknowing of not knowing things of not knowing and and in that way we become free spirits and in that way
00:27:33
Daithi Flannery
um you see this is where Nietzsche got to as well and something i really admire about him uh is that we have to kind of live in a place of ambiguity we have to live in a place of unknowing we have to become comfortable in a place of unknowing of not knowing things of not knowing and and in that way we become free spirits and in that way
00:27:56
Emmet
We have more access to the world.
00:27:56
Daithi Flannery
We have more access to the world.
00:27:58
Emmet
Do you know what I mean?
00:27:58
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean?
00:27:58
Emmet
We have more connection to the world.
00:27:58
Daithi Flannery
We have more connection to the world. It's the constant making things certain.
00:28:00
Emmet
It's the constant making things certain. And wanting and needing.
00:28:04
Daithi Flannery
And wanting and needing.
00:28:06
Emmet
It's control.
00:28:06
Daithi Flannery
It's control. You want to control things.
00:28:07
Emmet
You want to control things. you want We want to, the ego wants to have control over everything, everything doesn't it?
00:28:09
Daithi Flannery
We want to, the ego wants to have control over everything, doesn't it? You know, if we can do surrender and relax, then be.
00:28:12
Emmet
You know, if we can do surrender and relax, then be. Yeah, it's easier said than done man.
00:28:16
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, it's easier said than done man.
00:28:18
Daithi Flannery
I was just about to say how do you shut up this fucking mind cuz it's crazy the human mind It's incessant it it like does not stop.
00:28:18
Emmet
I was just about to say how do you shut up this fucking mind cuz it's crazy the human mind It's incessant it it like does not stop.
00:28:25
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, it's 24-7 It shuts off for a few hours every night when we're in deep dream to sleep Yeah, but even at that it's still the subconscious minds, you know, I'll carry on talks about this Yeah, you know your dreams are your dreams are like I already get with your subconscious mind I mean this thing never stops
00:28:25
Emmet
Yeah, it's 24-7 It shuts off for a few hours every night when we're in deep dream to sleep Yeah, but even at that it's still the subconscious minds, you know, I'll carry on talks about this.
00:28:34
Emmet
Yeah, you know your dreams are your dreams are I get with your subconscious mind? i mean i Thing never stops yeah But the beauty of meditation and the practice of consistent daily meditation and for me consistent retreats is like there's a place of stillness behind all the thoughts and all the emotions.
00:28:41
Daithi Flannery
yeah But the beauty of meditation and the practice of consistent daily meditation and for me consistent retreats is like, there's a place of stillness behind all the thoughts and all the emotions.
00:28:53
Emmet
There's a place of like a witness.
00:28:53
Daithi Flannery
There's a place of like a witness.
00:28:55
Emmet
There's something there.
00:28:55
Daithi Flannery
There's something there.
00:28:56
Emmet
There's something there that's constant that never changes.
00:28:56
Daithi Flannery
There's something there that's constant that never changes.
00:28:59
Emmet
And sometimes again, I've had everyone, you can have like some pretty profound meditation practices where you really get into that space.
00:28:59
Daithi Flannery
And sometimes you can, I've had everyone, you can have like some pretty profound meditation practices where you really get into that space.
00:29:08
Emmet
You know, every day at the school, did did the yoga school, I've, I've, I've learned everything.
00:29:08
Daithi Flannery
You know, every day I just go to the yoga school. I've, I've, I've learned everything I've learned that we call it the background of stillness or the witness consciousness or pure awareness, pure awareness.
00:29:13
Emmet
I've learned that. We call it the background of stillness or the witness consciousness or pure awareness, pure awareness. Yeah.
00:29:20
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:29:22
Emmet
And it's like, everything is going on.
00:29:22
Daithi Flannery
And it's like, everything is going on.
00:29:25
Emmet
Thoughts are flying by.
00:29:25
Daithi Flannery
Thoughts are flying by.
00:29:26
Emmet
coming and going, emotions are coming and going and there's just something that's constant and that's always there and there is a peace and a stillness to be found sometimes even when the mind is going crazy and even when you're feeling like turbulent emotions and things like that like so sometimes ah yeah you get into that space of meditation where it's just like stillness and and
00:29:26
Daithi Flannery
coming and going, emotions are coming and going and there's just something that's constant and that's always there and there is a peace and a stillness to be found sometimes even when the mind is going crazy and even when you're feeling like turbulent emotions and things like that like so sometimes ah yeah you get into that space of meditation where it's just like stillness and
00:29:49
Emmet
How can I describe it?
00:29:49
Daithi Flannery
How can I describe it?
00:29:51
Emmet
You can be unaffected by what's going on with your emotions and what's going on with your mind.
00:29:51
Daithi Flannery
You can be unaffected by what's going on with your emotions and what's going on with your mind.
00:29:58
Emmet
And it's just a different level of awareness.
00:29:58
Daithi Flannery
And it's just a different level of awareness.
00:30:00
Emmet
It's a different level of consciousness.
00:30:00
Daithi Flannery
It's a different level of consciousness.
00:30:02
Emmet
So, uh, let me try and think this through now.
00:30:02
Daithi Flannery
So, uh, let me try and think this through now.
00:30:04
Emmet
So the witness, that place of stillness, it's not like a place where you can be and you can watch all these emotions and things coming through you leaving again.
00:30:04
Daithi Flannery
So the witness, that place of stillness, is that like a place where you can be and you can watch all these emotions and things coming through you, leaving again.
00:30:18
Emmet
Yeah, I suppose this is the practice of meditation.
00:30:18
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, I suppose this is the practice of meditation.
00:30:20
Emmet
Yeah.
00:30:20
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:30:20
Emmet
Is that where the resilience comes from meditation?
00:30:20
Daithi Flannery
Is that where the resilience comes from meditation?
00:30:23
Emmet
you Definitely need resilience.
00:30:23
Daithi Flannery
you Definitely need resilience.
00:30:25
Emmet
Yeah.
00:30:25
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:30:25
Emmet
Yeah.
00:30:25
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:30:25
Emmet
But is that what is that when you find when you're in that place, when you I suppose when you can get access to that place of stillness is quicker through practice?
00:30:25
Daithi Flannery
But is that what is that when you find when you're in that place, when you I suppose when you can get access to that place of stillness is quicker through practice? Yes.
00:30:33
Emmet
Yes. Does that build that resilience so that when emotions come to start to come up again, you can quicker get to that place and you can watch them hold them and let them float away.
00:30:34
Daithi Flannery
Does that build that resilience so that when emotions come to start to come up again, you can quicker get to that place and you can watch them hold them and let them float away.
00:30:42
Emmet
absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely yeah but it's a practice yeah like meditation is difficult even steven still sometimes it's extremely difficult you don't know what way your mind is going to be how active how calm it's going to be how peaceful or turbulent it's going to be any given morning you wake up i've been trying to meditate for 10 minutes a day since we last spoke
00:30:42
Daithi Flannery
absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely yeah but it's a practice yeah like meditation is difficult even steven still sometimes it's extremely difficult you don't know what way your mind is going to be how active how calm it's going to be how peaceful or turbulent it's going to be any given morning you wake up i've been trying to meditate for 10 minutes a day since we last spoke
00:31:03
Daithi Flannery
Then you show me that inside.
00:31:03
Emmet
Then you show me that inside.
00:31:06
Emmet
Inside Timer.
00:31:06
Daithi Flannery
Inside Timer.
00:31:06
Emmet
Inside Timer.
00:31:06
Daithi Flannery
Inside Timer.
00:31:07
Daithi Flannery
Now I use that, but then they ask me for money, so I cut it off and I just use my other timer, but but maybe there's a free one I didn't click into.
00:31:07
Emmet
Now I use that but then they ask me for money so I cut it off and I just use my other timer.
00:31:11
Emmet
but but Maybe there's a free one I didn't click into. Of course, yeah.
00:31:14
Daithi Flannery
Of course, yeah, I know you can use that for free, no problem.
00:31:15
Emmet
I know you can use that for free, no problem. Okay.
00:31:17
Daithi Flannery
Okay, but that's a great app.
00:31:17
Emmet
but That's a great app. Inside Timer.
00:31:18
Daithi Flannery
Inside Timer, okay.
00:31:19
Emmet
Okay.
00:31:19
Daithi Flannery
ah If anybody knows, get Inside Timer.
00:31:20
Emmet
If anybody knows, get Inside Timer. But I was using just an ordinary interval timer.
00:31:22
Daithi Flannery
But I was using just an ordinary interval timer. um
00:31:26
Emmet
And I found it very hard.
00:31:26
Daithi Flannery
And I found it very hard.
00:31:32
Emmet
I didn't, it didn't work every day.
00:31:32
Daithi Flannery
ah didn't It didn't work every day.
00:31:34
Emmet
I didn't last the 10 minutes every day.
00:31:34
Daithi Flannery
I didn't last the 10 minutes every day.
00:31:37
Emmet
And I felt that bit of confrontation coming up.
00:31:37
Daithi Flannery
And I felt that bit of confrontation coming up.
00:31:43
Emmet
And then I quickly realized that I had other things to do and I have to get get, so I got up and and and and found whatever it was I desperately had to do to run away from that confrontation.
00:31:43
Daithi Flannery
And then I quickly realized that I had other things to do and I had to get out of it. So I got up and and and and found whatever it was I desperately had to do to run away from that confrontation.
00:31:54
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:31:54
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely.
00:31:54
Emmet
There you go.
00:31:54
Daithi Flannery
There you go. i Come back to confronting yourself they within 10 minutes.
00:31:55
Emmet
I come back to confronting yourself but they within 10 minutes. Your mind is tricking you into getting up.
00:31:58
Daithi Flannery
Your mind is tricking you into getting up or whatever and going on about your daily business and just forget distractions.
00:32:00
Emmet
Or would I cheer or whatever and go on about your daily business and just forget. Distractions. Distractions.
00:32:05
Daithi Flannery
Distractions. distraction is exactly.
00:32:06
Emmet
Distractions, exactly. Meditation is hard, especially in the beginning.
00:32:07
Daithi Flannery
Meditation is hard, especially in the beginning.
00:32:10
Emmet
A really difficult thing.
00:32:10
Daithi Flannery
Really difficult thing.
00:32:12
Emmet
You know, that's not all.
00:32:12
Daithi Flannery
You know, that's not all.
00:32:14
Daithi Flannery
Do you know a difficulty?
00:32:14
Emmet
Do you know a difficulty?
00:32:15
Emmet
Like sometimes you have like very, very nice, beautiful meditation sessions.
00:32:15
Daithi Flannery
Like sometimes you have like very, very nice, beautiful meditation sessions.
00:32:19
Emmet
We should probably tell people about the good stuff.
00:32:19
Daithi Flannery
We should probably tell people about the good stuff.
00:32:21
Emmet
We should probably tell people of about the good stuff.
00:32:21
Daithi Flannery
We should probably tell people la about the good stuff.
00:32:27
Emmet
But like ah you you like you asked me, how would you change me a few minutes ago?
00:32:27
Daithi Flannery
But like you you like you asked me, how would you change me a few minutes ago?
00:32:29
Emmet
Like yeah it's just so much more relaxed, sleep and better.
00:32:29
Daithi Flannery
Like, yeah it's just so much more relaxed, sleep and better.
00:32:32
Emmet
Just yeah life is easy i't that's easier, Life is easier.
00:32:32
Daithi Flannery
Just yeah life is easy i't that's easier, Life is easier.
00:32:37
Emmet
so So much more acceptance of things.
00:32:37
Daithi Flannery
So much more acceptance of things.
00:32:40
Emmet
you know um And clarity, man.
00:32:40
Daithi Flannery
you know um And clarity, man.
00:32:42
Emmet
Clarity is.
00:32:42
Daithi Flannery
Clarity is...
00:32:44
Emmet
massive for me you know yeah like I said I was really really like lost for a few years before I found yoga and got on this path in life you know yeah and it's like you know it's like what am I gonna do my life and that creates a lot of conflict within you know and conflict within reflects you know you'll have conflict in your life as well like you know anyone's just not happy people that are not happy and
00:32:44
Daithi Flannery
massive for me you know yeah like I said I was really really like lost for a few years before I found yoga and got on this path in life you know yeah and it's like you know it's like what am I gonna do my life and that creates a lot of conflict within you know and conflict within reflects you know you'll have conflict in your life as well like you know anyone's just not happy people that are not happy and
00:33:12
Emmet
There's a lot of conflict in the world.
00:33:12
Daithi Flannery
There's a lot of conflict in the world.
00:33:13
Emmet
There is.
00:33:13
Daithi Flannery
There is.
00:33:14
Emmet
People are not happy.
00:33:14
Daithi Flannery
People are not happy.
00:33:15
Emmet
And a lot of it comes from people's inability to sit in a room.
00:33:15
Daithi Flannery
And a lot of it comes from people's inability to sit in a room.
00:33:19
Emmet
Exactly.
00:33:19
Daithi Flannery
Exactly.
00:33:20
Emmet
Yeah. Exactly.
00:33:20
Daithi Flannery
Yeah. Exactly.
00:33:22
Emmet
so its But that's what it brings, you know?
00:33:22
Daithi Flannery
so its But that's what it brings, you know? um Like, for me, going into retreat, it's work.
00:33:24
Emmet
Like, for me, going into retreat, it's work. But again, it's a beautiful experience.
00:33:27
Daithi Flannery
But again, it's a beautiful experience.
00:33:28
Emmet
When you come out with there, like, there's a fine share in it.
00:33:28
Daithi Flannery
When you come out with there, like, there's a fine share in it.
00:33:31
Emmet
You know, it's optional.
00:33:31
Daithi Flannery
You know, it's optional.
00:33:32
Emmet
A lot of people go up there, share their processes.
00:33:32
Daithi Flannery
A lot of people go up there, share their processes.
00:33:35
Emmet
I mean, you're sitting in a hall with 70, 60, 70, sometimes even 80, 90 people in the hall at the school in Mexico.
00:33:35
Daithi Flannery
I mean, you're sitting in a hall with 70, 60, 70, sometimes even 80, 90 people in the hall at the school in Mexico.
00:33:42
Daithi Flannery
And man, like the connection, a sense of connection, like with people afterwards, people who haven't spoken for fucking 10 days, not a word, only the teacher speaking.
00:33:42
Emmet
And man, like the connection, a sense of connection, like with people afterwards, people who haven't spoken for fucking 10 days, not a word, only the teacher or speaking.
00:33:52
Emmet
Probably some people have never spoken.
00:33:52
Daithi Flannery
And probably some people you've never spoken to.
00:33:54
Emmet
Never spoken to.
00:33:54
Daithi Flannery
Never spoken to.
00:33:55
Emmet
You literally
00:33:55
Daithi Flannery
You literally
00:33:57
Emmet
turn around, you look at them, everybody starts connecting again, starts talking, and it's like you've known them for years so sometimes, you know?
00:33:57
Daithi Flannery
turn around, you look at them, everybody starts connecting again, starts talking, and it's like you've known them for years sometimes, you know?
00:34:04
Emmet
yeah and so yeah yeah yeah exactly You've been sitting in a hall with these people, not talking to them for 10 days, and the whole place comes out with just full of love and connection.
00:34:04
Daithi Flannery
yeah and so yeah yeah yeah exactly You've been sitting in a hall with these people, not talking to them for 10 days, and the whole place comes out with just full of love and connection.
00:34:13
Daithi Flannery
in in in the in those 10 days where you're quiet, is there like a is there eye contact connection?
00:34:13
Emmet
in in in the in those 10 days where you're quiet, is there like a is there eye contact connection?
00:34:21
Emmet
Do you know what I mean?
00:34:21
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean?
00:34:22
Emmet
No.
00:34:22
Daithi Flannery
No.
00:34:22
Emmet
No.
00:34:22
Daithi Flannery
No.
00:34:23
Emmet
No.
00:34:23
Daithi Flannery
No.
00:34:23
Emmet
No, it's recommended.
00:34:24
Daithi Flannery
No, it's recommended not to have eye contact.
00:34:25
Emmet
Not not and not not not have eye contact. And speaking from my own experience, it makes a huge difference.
00:34:27
Daithi Flannery
And speaking from my own experience, it makes a huge difference.
00:34:31
Emmet
you know, even eye contact, it it's an interaction.
00:34:31
Daithi Flannery
you know, even eye contact, it it's an interaction.
00:34:33
Emmet
Yeah, it is.
00:34:33
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, it is.
00:34:33
Emmet
yeah Words are secondary.
00:34:33
Daithi Flannery
yeah Words are secondary.
00:34:35
Emmet
We're communicating through energy, first and foremost, you know what I mean?
00:34:35
Daithi Flannery
We're communicating through energy, first and foremost. You know what I mean?
00:34:39
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, definitely.
00:34:39
Emmet
Yeah, definitely.
00:34:40
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, definitely.
00:34:40
Emmet
Yeah, definitely.
00:34:41
Emmet
And I know that my notice it myself, like, you know,
00:34:41
Daithi Flannery
And I know that my notice it myself, like, you know,
00:34:46
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, no, our olfactory system is is a lot more powerful than we then we believe it is.
00:34:46
Emmet
Yeah, no, our olfactory system is is a lot more powerful than we then we believe it is.
00:34:54
Emmet
And we actually pick up on people's smells.
00:34:54
Daithi Flannery
And we actually pick up on people's smells.
00:34:56
Emmet
When we shake people's hands and stuff like that, we often notice people put their hand to their mouths because we're actually getting a sense of their smell.
00:34:56
Daithi Flannery
When we shake people's hands and stuff like that, we often notice people put their hand to their mouths because we're actually getting a sense of their smell.
00:35:04
Emmet
And there's a lot more communication, like you were saying, than on board and stuff that we're doing.
00:35:04
Daithi Flannery
And there's a lot more communication, like you were saying, than humble and stuff that that we're doing.
00:35:09
Emmet
And and words words are like a...
00:35:09
Daithi Flannery
And and words words are like a...
00:35:13
Emmet
They're a manifestation of people's thoughts.
00:35:13
Daithi Flannery
They're a manifestation of people's thoughts.
00:35:16
Emmet
Yeah. yeah ah third But they're also they're also a a building they're they're also the building blocks of our social reality, of the social reality where all that anxiety comes from.
00:35:18
Daithi Flannery
But they're also they're also a a building they're they're also the building blocks of our social reality, of the social reality where all that anxiety comes from.
00:35:27
Daithi Flannery
You know what I mean? they They're a building of a social world that's kind of...
00:35:27
Emmet
You know what I mean?
00:35:28
Emmet
They're building up a social world that's kind of...
00:35:34
Emmet
Not untrue, but it is constructive in words.
00:35:34
Daithi Flannery
Not untrue, but it is constructive in words.
00:35:38
Emmet
And a lot of human anxieties comes from that social world.
00:35:38
Daithi Flannery
And a lot of human anxieties comes from that social world.
00:35:42
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:35:42
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely.
00:35:43
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:35:43
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely. The world's a crazy place in 2024.
00:35:44
Emmet
The world's a crazy place in 2024. It is.
00:35:47
Daithi Flannery
It is. It's a mad time to be alive.
00:35:47
Emmet
A mad time to be alive. It is a mad time to be alive.
00:35:48
Daithi Flannery
It is a mad time to be alive.
00:35:50
Emmet
But I'm truly optimistic about the world, the way it is at the moment.
00:35:50
Daithi Flannery
But I'm truly optimistic about the world, the way it is at the moment.
00:35:53
Daithi Flannery
I feel it's going through a rebirth process, you know a very necessary change.
00:35:53
Emmet
I feel it's going through a rebirth process, you know a very necessary change.
00:35:58
Daithi Flannery
Tell me about this rebirth process.
00:35:58
Emmet
Tell me about this rebirth process.
00:36:00
Emmet
too You've heard about it somewhere.
00:36:00
Daithi Flannery
You've heard about it somewhere.
00:36:02
Emmet
Me.
00:36:02
Daithi Flannery
Me.
00:36:03
Emmet
Kelly, you guys?
00:36:03
Daithi Flannery
Kelly, you guys?
00:36:05
Emmet
Oh, the yugas.
00:36:05
Daithi Flannery
Oh, the yugas.
00:36:06
Emmet
Yeah.
00:36:06
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:36:06
Emmet
They're like, yeah, they're like, um, epochs, I suppose are ages in time.
00:36:06
Daithi Flannery
They're like, yeah, they're like, um, epochs, I suppose are ages in time.
00:36:13
Emmet
Yeah.
00:36:13
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:36:13
Emmet
You know, I think each, each yuga, there's four yugas.
00:36:13
Daithi Flannery
You know, I think each, each yuga, there's four yugas.
00:36:16
Emmet
Apparently we're in Cali yuga at the moment.
00:36:17
Daithi Flannery
Apparently we're in Cali yuga at the moment.
00:36:18
Emmet
I don't know too much about them yet.
00:36:18
Daithi Flannery
I don't know too much about them yet.
00:36:20
Emmet
I was checking out books on them recently, you know, but there's no question about it.
00:36:20
Daithi Flannery
I was checking out books on them recently, you know, but there's no question about it.
00:36:23
Emmet
We're in the dark edge.
00:36:23
Daithi Flannery
We're in the dark edge.
00:36:24
Emmet
I mean, look around.
00:36:24
Daithi Flannery
I mean, look around.
00:36:25
Emmet
Yeah.
00:36:25
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:36:26
Emmet
Born Ukraine.
00:36:26
Daithi Flannery
Born Ukraine.
00:36:27
Emmet
What's going on in Gaza, Israel.
00:36:27
Daithi Flannery
What's going on in Gaza, Israel.
00:36:29
Emmet
It's fucking horrific, man.
00:36:29
Daithi Flannery
It's fucking horrific, man.
00:36:30
Emmet
I'm lucky.
00:36:30
Daithi Flannery
I'm lucky.
00:36:32
Emmet
I lived in a fucking ashram for a year and a half this between the school in Mexico and France.
00:36:32
Daithi Flannery
I lived in a fucking ashram for a year and a half. This between the school in Mexico and France.
00:36:35
Emmet
I came home this year on the 20th of June.
00:36:35
Daithi Flannery
I came home this year on the 20th of June.
00:36:39
Emmet
And just recently I've been able to isolate myself and more or less be in a bubble at that school for the last, especially year and a half.
00:36:39
Daithi Flannery
And just recently I've been able to isolate myself and more or less be in a bubble at that school for the last, especially a year and a half.
00:36:47
Emmet
You know, it's my whole life has revolved around it for the last three years between coming and going.
00:36:47
Daithi Flannery
You know, it's my whole life has revolved around it for the last three years between coming and going.
00:36:51
Emmet
But like.
00:36:51
Daithi Flannery
But like.
World Events and Personal Reflections
00:36:53
Emmet
yeah I was checking out some of the stuff recently that's been going on in in Gaza and Israel and it's fucking hell man for both sides for both sides you know what I mean and I'm I'm saying what I'm seeing there man is again is like it's there's such division now again in the world there's people that are pro-israel people that are pro-palestine I don't want to get too deep into politics no but like
00:36:53
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, I was checking out some of the stuff recently that's been going on in Gaza and Israel. And it's fucking hell, man. For both sides. For both sides. For both sides. You know what I mean? And what what I'm seeing there, man, is again, there's such division now again in the world. There's people that are pro-Israel, people that are pro-Palestine. I don't want to get too deep into politics, no.
00:37:16
Daithi Flannery
but like
00:37:18
Emmet
Yeah, the world there's no question about it.
00:37:18
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, the world there's no question about it.
00:37:19
Daithi Flannery
We're living in a very, very dark age.
00:37:19
Emmet
We're living in a very, very dark age.
00:37:21
Emmet
Thinking about this recently as well and like how privileged I am and we are to like have the karma to be born into a Western world, into a Western family, in a a Western country.
00:37:22
Daithi Flannery
Thinking about this recently as well, and like how privileged I am, and we are to like have the karma to be born into a Western world, into a Western family, in a a Western country.
00:37:32
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely.
00:37:32
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:37:33
Emmet
Freedom we've had.
00:37:33
Daithi Flannery
Freedom we've had.
00:37:35
Emmet
Yeah.
00:37:35
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:37:35
Emmet
We free like that.
00:37:35
Daithi Flannery
We've freed. And it is luck.
00:37:36
Emmet
And it is luck. You know what I mean?
00:37:37
Daithi Flannery
You know what I mean?
00:37:38
Emmet
It's luck.
00:37:38
Daithi Flannery
It's luck.
00:37:38
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:37:38
Emmet
Yeah.
00:37:39
Emmet
Yeah.
00:37:39
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:37:40
Emmet
Yeah.
00:37:40
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:37:41
Emmet
Yeah.
00:37:41
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:37:41
Emmet
We don't choose from my belief.
00:37:41
Daithi Flannery
We don't choose from my belief.
00:37:42
Emmet
Yeah.
00:37:42
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:37:42
Emmet
From my belief karma.
00:37:43
Daithi Flannery
From my belief karma.
00:37:44
Emmet
that will be from away from yoga yeah sorry From a perspective, no, I would think that's got to do with past life choices.
00:37:44
Daithi Flannery
that will be from away from yoga yeah sorry From a perspective, no, I would think that's got to do with past life choices.
00:37:51
Emmet
But anyway, that we don't need to go into that.
00:37:51
Daithi Flannery
But anyway, that we don't need to go into that.
00:37:52
Emmet
My point is, us in the Western world, man, we've been very privileged up until now.
00:37:52
Daithi Flannery
My point is, us in the Western world, man, we've been very privileged up until now.
00:37:58
Emmet
But the last four or five years, man, like our freedom and our liberties are like getting smaller and smaller and smaller, you know.
00:37:58
Daithi Flannery
But the last four or five years, man, like our freedom and our liberties are like getting smaller and smaller and smaller, you know.
00:38:07
Emmet
But anyway, not to go too deep into politics.
00:38:07
Daithi Flannery
But anyway, not to go too deep into politics.
00:38:10
Emmet
No question about it.
00:38:10
Daithi Flannery
No question about it.
00:38:11
Emmet
We're living in a very dark age.
00:38:11
Daithi Flannery
We're living in a very dark age.
00:38:13
Emmet
yeah and you know And in yoga, it's called Kali Yuga.
00:38:13
Daithi Flannery
yeah and you know And in yoga, it's called Kali Yuga.
00:38:15
Emmet
Kali Yuga. And the next age that's common in them.
00:38:17
Daithi Flannery
And the next age that's common in them.
00:38:19
Emmet
I think it's strata yoga, or is it satya?
00:38:19
Daithi Flannery
I think it's strata yoga or is it satya?
00:38:23
Emmet
Satya.
00:38:23
Daithi Flannery
That's yeah better time.
00:38:23
Emmet
That's a better time? Oh, yeah.
00:38:24
Daithi Flannery
Oh yeah.
00:38:25
Emmet
Oh, yeah. No question about it.
00:38:26
Daithi Flannery
No question about it.
00:38:27
Emmet
Like, yeah, Kali Yuga is definitely the most difficult, you know?
00:38:27
Daithi Flannery
Kali Yuga is definitely the most difficult. you
00:38:31
Daithi Flannery
yeah
00:38:31
Emmet
Yeah.
00:38:32
Daithi Flannery
yeah do It's a crazy time.
00:38:32
Emmet
Yeah, I do.
00:38:33
Emmet
It's a crazy time. It is a crazy time.
00:38:34
Daithi Flannery
It is a crazy time.
00:38:35
Emmet
Like, the good thing is like,
00:38:35
Daithi Flannery
The good thing is like,
00:38:39
Emmet
It's creating a lot of suffering, but like the flip side of that is it's causing a lot of people.
00:38:39
Daithi Flannery
It's creating a lot of suffering, but like the flip side of that is it's causing a lot of people.
00:38:43
Emmet
I think it's causing a massive, like, like spiritual revolution, spiritual awakening.
00:38:43
Daithi Flannery
I think it's causing a massive, like, like spiritual revolution, spiritual awakening.
00:38:49
Emmet
Not everybody, but a lot of people are like, as we say in yoga as well, the only way out is in, you know?
00:38:49
Daithi Flannery
Not everybody, but a lot of people are like, as we say in yoga as well, the only way out is in, you know?
00:38:54
Daithi Flannery
yeah a lot of people are kind of getting into like look at yoga meditation everything's growing oh yeah i think i'm in a massive way andly yeah i think so yeah good i think so i think so from my point of view.
00:38:54
Emmet
yeah a lot of people are kind of getting into like look at yoga meditation everything's growing oh yeah i think i'm in a massive way and yeah i think so yeah good i think so i think so
00:39:10
Emmet
from my point of view, i it is yeah yeah?
00:39:11
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, but I think that there is a lot of people searching for
00:39:11
Emmet
Yeah, but I think that there is a lot of people searching for
Yoga and Personal Growth
00:39:14
Emmet
something. like I always saw you as a searcher.
00:39:14
Daithi Flannery
something.
00:39:14
Daithi Flannery
Like I always saw you as a searcher, like you were always like learning an instrument or trying to sport or going off learning the language or going off traveling.
00:39:16
Emmet
like You were always ah like learning an instrument or trying to sport or going off learning a language or going off traveling.
00:39:25
Daithi Flannery
I need stimulation.
00:39:26
Emmet
I need stimulation. I need stimulation, but you were searching.
00:39:27
Daithi Flannery
You need stimulation, but you were searching.
00:39:29
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:39:29
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely. And that's nice to know that you seem to have found something.
00:39:30
Emmet
And that's nice to know that you seem to have found something. Do you know what I mean?
00:39:33
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean?
00:39:33
Emmet
Found something.
00:39:34
Daithi Flannery
Found something.
00:39:34
Emmet
I believe whatever choices I've made throughout my whole life, my life was never going to be anything other than what it is right now.
00:39:34
Daithi Flannery
I believe whatever choices I've made throughout my whole life, my life was never going to be anything other than what it is right now.
00:39:42
Emmet
It was always going to be yoga.
00:39:42
Daithi Flannery
It was always going to be yoga. And is there some acceptance then?
00:39:44
Emmet
And is there some acceptance then? Is that part of the process of acceptance?
00:39:46
Daithi Flannery
Is that part of the process of acceptance?
00:39:49
Emmet
Is that accepting that whatever's happened, it's happened to bring you here to where you are?
00:39:49
Daithi Flannery
Is that accepting that whatever's happened, it's happened to bring you here to where you are?
00:39:53
Emmet
I suppose, yeah, would have been part of my process in the past.
00:39:53
Daithi Flannery
I suppose, yeah, would have been part of my process in the past.
00:39:56
Emmet
Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:56
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:57
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely.
00:39:57
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:39:58
Emmet
But I don't doubt it now for one second, you know?
00:39:58
Daithi Flannery
But I don't doubt it now for one second, you know?
00:40:01
Emmet
But it was a big move a few years ago, quitting my job and everything.
00:40:01
Daithi Flannery
But it was a big move a few years ago, quitting my job and everything.
00:40:04
Emmet
It was a difficult decision at the time.
00:40:04
Daithi Flannery
It was a difficult decision at the time.
00:40:07
Emmet
It was not an easy thing to do.
00:40:07
Daithi Flannery
It was not an easy thing to do.
00:40:09
Daithi Flannery
when i when where when went i went When I think back where I was as a person, yeah three and a half years ago, you know but it was the best decision of my life, no doubt.
00:40:09
Emmet
when i when when went went When I think back where I was as a person, yeah three and a half years ago, you know but it was the best decision of my life, no doubt.
00:40:20
Emmet
It's just the beginning.
00:40:20
Daithi Flannery
It's just the beginning.
00:40:22
Emmet
Is there any like misconceptions about yoga that drive you mad?
00:40:22
Daithi Flannery
Is there any like misconceptions about yoga that drive you mad? Do you know what I mean?
00:40:27
Emmet
Do you know what I mean? Is there anything?
00:40:27
Daithi Flannery
Is there anything?
00:40:28
Daithi Flannery
No, don't drive me mad.
00:40:28
Emmet
No, don't drive me mad.
00:40:28
Emmet
I always say that.
00:40:28
Daithi Flannery
I always say that.
00:40:29
Emmet
That's because you're so chill now.
00:40:29
Daithi Flannery
That's because you're so chill and I'm like, there's no bad yoga except hot yoga.
00:40:30
Emmet
I get the one and drive you mad. I always say i often say like there's no bad yoga, except hot yoga. I don't know anyone's yoga.
00:40:38
Daithi Flannery
I don't know anyone's joking. But listen, anything that gets you to fucking switch off
00:40:43
Emmet
Listen, anything that gets you to fucking switch off Stretch and breathe.
00:40:47
Daithi Flannery
Stretch and breathe.
00:40:48
Emmet
Stretch and breathe.
00:40:48
Daithi Flannery
Stretch and breathe.
00:40:49
Emmet
It's going to relax you.
00:40:49
Daithi Flannery
It's going to relax you.
00:40:50
Emmet
It's going to de-stress you on some level, regardless of what you're into, whether it's Hatha, Vinyasa, Ashtanga, which are faster dynamic styles of yoga.
00:40:50
Daithi Flannery
It's going to de-stress you on some level, regardless of what you're into, whether it's Hatha, Vinyasa, Ashtanga, which are faster, dynamic styles of yoga.
00:40:59
Emmet
You know, there's yin yoga, which is very slow, very relaxing.
00:40:59
Daithi Flannery
You know, there's Yin Yoga, which is very slow, very relaxing.
00:41:04
Emmet
The style of yoga, I learned, like I said, Hatha yoga, I read all your Hatha yoga, very slow, very meditative.
00:41:04
Daithi Flannery
The style of yoga, I learned, like I said, Hatha Yoga, every day I have Hatha Yoga, very slow, very meditative.
00:41:09
Emmet
And listen, I think it's all good.
00:41:09
Daithi Flannery
And listen, and I think it's all good. we're all different you know we're all different we're all built differently we all have different strengths weaknesses likes dis dislikes yeah i mean find what works for you you know yeah and do it there seems to be a lot in the yoga about balance it seems to be all about balance about finding the kind of dualities and then balancing them back to a non-duality kind of
00:41:12
Emmet
we're all different you know we're all different we're all built differently we all have different strengths weaknesses likes dis dislikes yeah i mean find what works for you you know yeah and do it there seems to be a lot in the yoga about balance it seems to be all about balance about finding the kind of dualities and then balancing them back to a non-duality kind of Yeah.
00:41:35
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:41:36
Emmet
Would that be fair?
00:41:36
Daithi Flannery
Would that be fair?
00:41:37
Emmet
No, that's the ad attacker enough.
00:41:37
Daithi Flannery
No, that's the ad attacker enough.
00:41:39
Emmet
I think.
00:41:39
Daithi Flannery
I think.
00:41:39
Emmet
Yeah.
00:41:39
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:41:40
Emmet
Yeah.
00:41:40
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:41:40
Emmet
It's all about non-duality.
00:41:40
Daithi Flannery
It's all about non-duality.
00:41:41
Emmet
You're not separate from your source union union union.
00:41:41
Daithi Flannery
You're not separate from your source union union union.
00:41:45
Emmet
But how, what within a union with the divine, like.
00:41:45
Daithi Flannery
But how, what within a union with the divine, like.
00:41:49
Daithi Flannery
union with the divine and whatever, ah for me, know and they would as it's different for everybody, I guess, but for me, the divine and the God and the universe is just basically everything that you're not.
00:41:49
Emmet
Union with the divine and whatever, ah for me, know and they would yeah as it's different for everybody, I guess, but for me, the divine and the God and the universe is just basically everything that you're not.
00:42:01
Emmet
You know what I mean?
00:42:01
Daithi Flannery
You know what I mean?
00:42:02
Emmet
union Union for me with with the world is union with everything I'm not, you know just being okay with everything.
00:42:02
Daithi Flannery
union Union for me with with the world is union with everything I'm not, you know just being okay with everything.
00:42:09
Emmet
you know
00:42:09
Daithi Flannery
you know
00:42:11
Emmet
But how do we find balance?
00:42:11
Daithi Flannery
But how do we find balance?
00:42:15
Emmet
in a world that's all pull the apart and so that's so polarized, that's got so many distractions and anxieties and stimulations.
00:42:15
Daithi Flannery
in a world that's so pulled apart, that's so polarized, that's got so many distractions and anxieties and stimulations.
00:42:26
Daithi Flannery
Like we like we we spoke about Gaza, Palestine, Israel there a minute ago, but I had this other, I was doing a i was doing research for a film company, a documentary film company that went over there filming the documentary.
00:42:26
Emmet
Like we like we we spoke about Gaza, Palestine, Israel there a minute ago, but I had this other, I was doing ah um was doing research for a film company, a documentary film company that went over there filming the documentary.
00:42:41
Emmet
And the documentary was about a circus in Palestine, which was a circus school, which was so kind of surreal when you think about what they're going through, that they had a place to go to.
00:42:41
Daithi Flannery
And the documentary was about a circus in Palestine, which was a circus school, which was so kind of surreal when you think about what they're going through, that they had a place to go to.
00:42:55
Emmet
That was just to have fun, just to just to balance.
00:42:55
Daithi Flannery
That was just to have fun, just to just to balance.
00:42:58
Emmet
ah And there's so much physical embodiment in in circus stuff as well.
00:42:59
Daithi Flannery
And there's so much physical embodiment in in circus stuff as well.
00:43:04
Emmet
You know, you're balancing, you're doing this, you're concentrating on what you're doing.
00:43:04
Daithi Flannery
You know, you're balancing, you're doing this, you're concentrating on what you're doing.
00:43:06
Daithi Flannery
Like, you know, you may be distracted for a bit.
00:43:06
Emmet
Like, you know, you may be distracted for a bit.
00:43:10
Daithi Flannery
But what the picture that kept coming to my mind doing this was a clown on a unicycle, right, juggling. And he's unicycling down the street, and there's Palestinians on one side, Israelis on the other side, and they're firing, they're shitting each other, and they're insults.
00:43:10
Emmet
But what the picture that kept coming to my mind doing this was a clown on a unicycle, juggling.
00:43:17
Emmet
And he's unicycling down the street, and there's Palestinians on one side, Israelis on the other side, and they're firing, they're shitting each other, and they're insults. wow And the Palestinians believes, I'm doing this because this is my land, this is my religion, this is how I do it.
00:43:24
Daithi Flannery
wow And the Palestinians believes, I'm doing this because this is my land, this is my religion, this is how I do it.
00:43:31
Emmet
And the Jews are like, the Israelis, no, this is my religion, this is my land, and this is what I believe.
00:43:31
Daithi Flannery
And the Jews are like, the Israelis, no, this is my religion, this is my land, and this is what I believe.
00:43:36
Emmet
and it's just so
00:43:36
Daithi Flannery
And there's just such strong beliefs there.
00:43:38
Emmet
r belief Yeah hatred social reality i'm talking about to just And then you have this clown cycling down the middle of it all To me He's the only sane person in the picture I was just thinking the same thing Because these two guys are believing these stories so much to win to kill each other this guy' lad is like let's have a bit of crack This lad wants to cycle a unicycle and juggle.
00:43:40
Daithi Flannery
i had hatred this is the social reality i'm talking about to just then you have this clown cycl and um but to me he's the only san person in this picture is thinking the same thing because guys are believe in these stories so much to women and kill each other this last' lad is like let's have but crack this la watch it stuff about cycl unicycle and jole
00:44:03
Emmet
Yeah, he's got something right in the wars on but he's got something right but it ah does uh
00:44:03
Daithi Flannery
yeah He's the only sane person
00:44:10
Emmet
Like, I guess, does spiritual practices bring you back to the place of that same clown as I like to call him?
00:44:10
Daithi Flannery
Like, I guess, does spiritual practices bring you back to the place of that same clown as I like to call him?
00:44:16
Emmet
Do you know what I mean?
00:44:16
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean?
00:44:16
Emmet
Kind of bring you back to that, bring you away
00:44:16
Daithi Flannery
Kind of bring you back to that, bring you away
Solitude, Silence, and Leading by Example
00:44:20
Emmet
from all them social constructions that, you know, bring you back to a place where you can look at them people then and go, what the fuck are you believing so hard?
00:44:20
Daithi Flannery
from all them social constructions that, you know, bring you back to a place where you can look at them people then and go, what the fuck are you believing so hard?
00:44:30
Emmet
This is what it's causing you to do.
00:44:30
Daithi Flannery
This is what it's causing you to do.
00:44:33
Emmet
It's crazy because it runs so deep, that kind of stuff.
00:44:33
Daithi Flannery
It's crazy because it runs so deep, that kind of stuff.
00:44:35
Daithi Flannery
But even at the start, the answer popped into my question as soon as you start to talk and there, what can you do?
00:44:35
Emmet
But even at the start, the answer popped into my question as soon as you start to talk and there, what can you do?
00:44:40
Emmet
yeah in a world that's so crazy with so many distractions if you're fortunate enough and if you can two words popped into my mind silence and solitude ah silence and solitude take time alone take time him alone if you can I understand not everybody can do that you know people have families and kids as well the world is crazy you know
00:44:40
Daithi Flannery
Yeah. In a world that's so crazy with so many distractions. If you're fortunate enough and if you can, two words popped into my mind. Silence and solitude. Silence. Silence and solitude. Take time alone.
00:44:51
Daithi Flannery
Take time him alone. If you can. I understand not everybody can do that. You know, people have families and kids as well. The world is crazy, you know?
00:44:58
Emmet
it is yeah but uh you know it's my path in life for sure to keep doing these things yeah and keep repeatedly doing retreats and and practicing yoga for myself first and foremost and i'm open to teaching that if that's that's what life presents to me yeah you know but mostly it's about
00:44:58
Daithi Flannery
it is yeah but uh you know it's my path in life for sure to keep doing these things yeah and keep repeatedly doing retreats and and practicing yoga for myself first and foremost and i'm open to teaching that if that's that's what life presents to me yeah you know but mostly it's about
00:45:17
Emmet
You're doing this.
00:45:17
Daithi Flannery
You're doing it.
00:45:18
Emmet
My own growth.
00:45:18
Daithi Flannery
My own growth.
00:45:18
Daithi Flannery
And, and, and, and if, like, I suppose if you can model that behavior, the best teacher is someone who's modeling behavior.
00:45:18
Emmet
And, and, and, and if, like, I suppose if you can model that behavior, the best teacher is someone who's modeling behavior.
00:45:25
Emmet
you know to mean lead but lead Lead by example.
00:45:25
Daithi Flannery
you know to lead by lead Lead by example.
00:45:27
Emmet
ah You don't need to preach no a hundred percent.
00:45:27
Daithi Flannery
You don't need to preach a hundred percent. yeah You don't need to preach.
00:45:29
Emmet
yeah You don't need to preach.
00:45:31
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:45:31
Emmet
Yeah. We do that on podcasts and stuff.
00:45:31
Daithi Flannery
We do that on podcasts and stuff.
00:45:32
Emmet
Oh, hang on.
00:45:32
Daithi Flannery
Oh, hang on.
00:45:33
Emmet
ha
00:45:33
Daithi Flannery
ha
00:45:36
Emmet
But it's true.
00:45:36
Daithi Flannery
But it's true as the old saying was like actions speak louder than words, you know, the two lead lead lead by example.
00:45:37
Emmet
As the old saying was like actions speak louder than words, you know, the just lead lead lead by example.
00:45:42
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:45:43
Daithi Flannery
yeah
00:45:43
Emmet
yeah
00:45:44
Emmet
yeah it's the are you the kind of your body is a temple kind of person now I know you were often i mean you were you were always kind of into health and I know yeah you're older brother and younger brothers are into the hell too so it's a you grew up in the kind of
00:45:44
Daithi Flannery
is to are you the kind of uh your body is a temple kind of person now um i know you were always you were you were always kind of into health and i know yeah you're all the brother and younger brothers are into the health too so it's you grew up in a kind of
00:46:00
Emmet
ah health orientated kind of place in that sense.
00:46:00
Daithi Flannery
ah health orientated kind of place, in that sense.
00:46:04
Emmet
Absolutely, environment, yeah.
00:46:04
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely, environment, yeah. Exercise and stuff like that.
00:46:05
Emmet
Exercise and stuff like that. Definitely, yeah.
00:46:07
Daithi Flannery
Definitely, yeah.
00:46:07
Emmet
Even coming right down from our father, you know?
00:46:07
Daithi Flannery
Even coming right down from our father, you know?
00:46:09
Emmet
Really, oh yeah.
00:46:09
Daithi Flannery
Really, yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:46:10
Emmet
Oh, yeah.
00:46:10
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, he was training in boxing when he was younger and he was going to the gym for years and stuff.
00:46:10
Emmet
He was training in boxing when he was younger and he was going to the gym for years and stuff for now.
00:46:14
Daithi Flannery
oh now Yeah, so for sure.
00:46:15
Emmet
Yeah, so for sure. that's yeah But I always had a strong inclination to definitely like...
00:46:15
Daithi Flannery
that's where Yeah, but I always had a strong inclination to definitely like...
00:46:21
Emmet
from my early twenties, uh, eat really healthy and really look after myself.
00:46:21
Daithi Flannery
from my early twenties, eat really healthy and really look after myself.
00:46:26
Emmet
yeah But I had one Friday, Friday to Sunday, you know, I was burning the candle, burning the wick of both ends for a good two years.
00:46:26
Daithi Flannery
yeah But I had one Friday to Sunday, you know, I was burning the candle, burning the wick of both ends for a good two years. And I was younger in my twenties and maybe a couple of years of my early thirties.
00:46:35
Emmet
And I was younger in my twenties and that maybe a couple of years of my early thirties.
00:46:40
Daithi Flannery
And does yoga yoga suit that?
00:46:40
Emmet
And does yoga suit that? Like does yoga promote that kind of healthy lifestyle?
00:46:42
Daithi Flannery
Like does yoga promote that kind of healthy lifestyle?
00:46:45
Daithi Flannery
Oh, absolutely.
00:46:45
Emmet
Oh, absolutely.
00:46:46
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:46:46
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely.
00:46:47
Emmet
It sure starts at the physical level.
00:46:47
Daithi Flannery
It sure starts at the physical level.
00:46:48
Emmet
You know, yeah if you don't have a pure and a clean and healthy physical body, like
00:46:48
Daithi Flannery
You know, yeah if you don't have a pure and a clean and healthy physical body, like
00:46:54
Emmet
that reflects into like, was your your mental and your emotional state as well, you know?
00:46:54
Daithi Flannery
that reflects into like was your your mental and your emotional state as well, you know? Yeah.
00:47:00
Emmet
It's always a healthy body, healthy mind.
00:47:01
Daithi Flannery
It's always a healthy body, healthy mind.
00:47:03
Emmet
I'm sure you've often heard that.
00:47:03
Daithi Flannery
I'm sure you've often heard that.
00:47:04
Daithi Flannery
yeah Yeah. First and foremost, you know, like, you know, yeah and your health is your wealth.
00:47:04
Emmet
yeah yeah First and foremost, you know, like, you know, your and your health is your wealth.
00:47:08
Daithi Flannery
You know, I'm very fortunate to be fit and able and, you know, There's one more. When you get sick and you're and you're in pain or something like that, it's like you know it has a big effect on you mentally.
00:47:08
Emmet
You know, I'm very fortunate to be fit and able and, yeah you know, there's one more, you know, when you get sick and you're and you're in pain or something like that, it's like, you know, it has a big effect on you mentally, you know?
00:47:19
Daithi Flannery
you know yeah you know It's tough when you're when when you're sick and you're feeling like shit or you're in pain with something and it has a big effect on you mentally.
00:47:20
Emmet
Yeah, you know, it's tough when you're when when you're sick and you're feeling like shit or you're in pain with something and you know, it has a big effect on you mentally. So yeah, I'm a big believer in keeping my physical body like as healthy as I can.
00:47:26
Daithi Flannery
so yeah I'm a big believer in keeping my physical body like as healthy as I can.
00:47:31
Emmet
And so you've done a saltwater and test them out.
00:47:31
Daithi Flannery
And so you' you've done a saltwater and test them out. I did.
00:47:37
Emmet
I did.
00:47:38
Daithi Flannery
I've done that last Saturday.
00:47:38
Emmet
I've done that last Saturday.
00:47:39
Daithi Flannery
i yeah That sounded like great fun, but it's not too bad.
00:47:39
Emmet
That sounded like great fun, but it's not too bad.
00:47:44
Daithi Flannery
It's not too bad.
00:47:44
Emmet
It's not too bad.
00:47:45
Daithi Flannery
Feeling the benefit store, reaping the benefits.
00:47:45
Emmet
Feeling the benefit store, reaping the benefits.
00:47:47
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:47:47
Emmet
Yeah.
00:47:47
Daithi Flannery
It's a pretty, it's a pretty deep cleanse.
00:47:47
Emmet
It's a pretty, it's a pretty deep cleanse.
00:47:49
Daithi Flannery
It's a deep flush.
00:47:49
Emmet
It's a deep flush.
00:47:49
Daithi Flannery
It's called Shankar Plaxalana.
00:47:50
Emmet
It's called Shankar Plaxalana. Also that is a yoga practice.
00:47:51
Daithi Flannery
Also that's a yoga practice. It's a yoga practice.
00:47:53
Emmet
It's a yoga practice.
00:47:54
Daithi Flannery
Yeah. It's a hatha yoga practice.
00:47:54
Emmet
Yeah. It's a hatha yoga practice.
00:47:55
Daithi Flannery
This again is hatha yoga.
00:47:55
Emmet
This again is hatha yoga. Okay.
00:47:57
Daithi Flannery
Okay. Go back to your question at the very beginning.
00:47:57
Emmet
Go back to your question at the very beginning.
00:47:59
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:47:59
Emmet
Yeah.
00:47:59
Daithi Flannery
It's a very, uh,
00:47:59
Emmet
It's a very, uh, Hatha yoga is all about purifying your physical body and from there purifying your mental, your mind, your mental body, and then purifying like your energy at the most certain level.
00:48:01
Daithi Flannery
Hatha yoga is all about purifying your physical body, and from there purifying your mental, your mind, your mental body, and then purifying like your energy at the most subtle level.
00:48:11
Emmet
Okay.
00:48:11
Daithi Flannery
and a lot of diseases with the body A lot of diseases and things like that come from like,
00:48:13
Emmet
A lot of diseases and things like that come from like.
00:48:18
Emmet
Like if you're talking about even like, not yoga, but like holistic and alternative medicines and things like that, they all look to like the root of things.
00:48:18
Daithi Flannery
Like if you're talking about even like, not yoga, but like holistic and alternative medicines and things like that, they all look to like the root of things.
00:48:28
Emmet
Do you know?
00:48:28
Daithi Flannery
Do you know?
00:48:29
Emmet
And from the yogic perspective, whatever manifests at the physical level, disease or dis-ease, you know, disharmony, dis-ease in your in your and in your body is like,
00:48:29
Daithi Flannery
And from a yogic perspective, whatever manifests at the physical level, disease or dis-ease, you know, disharmony, dis-ease in your in your and in your body is like,
00:48:41
Emmet
It's just the last layer.
00:48:41
Daithi Flannery
It's just the last layer.
00:48:42
Emmet
Dis-ease, dis-ease.
00:48:42
Daithi Flannery
Dis-ease, dis-ease.
00:48:43
Emmet
Dis-ease, yeah.
00:48:43
Daithi Flannery
Dis-ease, yeah.
00:48:44
Emmet
You know, when you break down that word, it's dis-ease, dis-ease, dis-ease.
00:48:44
Daithi Flannery
You know, when you break down that word, it's dis-ease, dis-ease, dis-ease.
00:48:47
Emmet
You know?
00:48:47
Daithi Flannery
You know?
00:48:48
Emmet
Yeah, I'm broken down that word like that actually before, which makes sense.
00:48:48
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, I'm broken down that word like that actually before, which makes sense.
00:48:52
Emmet
And Hatha is really about the physical stuff first.
00:48:52
Daithi Flannery
And Hatha is really about the physical stuff first.
00:48:55
Emmet
It puts primacy on the physical stuff.
00:48:55
Daithi Flannery
It puts primacy on the physical stuff.
00:48:57
Emmet
Exactly.
00:48:57
Daithi Flannery
Exactly.
00:48:57
Daithi Flannery
And the others don't.
00:48:57
Emmet
And the others don't.
00:48:59
Emmet
ill Some of them go for the spiritual side first, and then build up to the physical side.
00:48:59
Daithi Flannery
i'll Some of them go for the spiritual side first, and then build up to the physical side.
00:49:03
Emmet
They do as well.
00:49:03
Daithi Flannery
They do as well.
00:49:04
Daithi Flannery
They do as well.
00:49:04
Emmet
They do as well.
00:49:05
Emmet
The beautiful thing about yogis, they're all deeply and intertwined.
00:49:05
Daithi Flannery
The beautiful thing about yogis, they're all deeply and intertwined.
00:49:08
Emmet
you know they're They're not separate.
00:49:08
Daithi Flannery
you know they' They're not separate.
00:49:10
Daithi Flannery
How would you distinguish one from another, basically?
00:49:10
Emmet
How would you distinguish one from another, basically?
00:49:15
Emmet
What is the differences in their practices?
00:49:15
Daithi Flannery
What is the differences in their practices?
00:49:17
Daithi Flannery
What is the differences in their primary focus?
00:49:17
Emmet
What is the differences in their primary focus?
00:49:22
Emmet
Hatha yoga, there's karma yoga, which is the yoga of conscious action.
00:49:22
Daithi Flannery
Hatha yoga, there's karma yoga, which is the yoga of conscious action.
00:49:26
Emmet
Okay.
00:49:26
Daithi Flannery
Okay.
00:49:26
Emmet
You know, which is trying to be like trying to be conscious all the time, trying to be aware.
00:49:27
Daithi Flannery
You know, which is trying to be like trying to be conscious all the time, trying to be aware.
00:49:33
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:49:33
Emmet
Yeah.
00:49:34
Emmet
You know, when you're not, we'd say, when you're not sitting in meditation and when you're not practicing yoga on your yoga mass, I suppose just trying to be mindful.
00:49:34
Daithi Flannery
You know, when you're not, when you're not sitting in meditation and when you're not practicing yoga on your yoga, I suppose just trying to be mindful.
00:49:42
Emmet
I suppose to to mine try, try to simplify it for anybody that's listening.
00:49:42
Daithi Flannery
I suppose to to mind try try to simplify it for anybody that's listening.
00:49:46
Emmet
and It's just trying to be mindful all the time of your actions, you know?
00:49:46
Daithi Flannery
It's just trying to be mindful all the time of your actions, you know?
00:49:50
Emmet
Yeah.
00:49:50
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:49:51
Daithi Flannery
That's karma yoga.
00:49:51
Emmet
That's karma yoga.
Foundational Principles of Yoga
00:49:53
Emmet
Then there's bhakti yoga, which is like the yoga of like devotion.
00:49:53
Daithi Flannery
Then there's bhakti yoga, which is like the yoga of like devotion. It's like a lot of people are into like kirtan, which is like devotional chanting and music and things like that.
00:49:58
Emmet
It's like a lot of people are into like kirtan, which is like devotional chanting and music and things like that. And you know, and also the practice like, like bear in mind, when you see people doing stretches, stretches and postures and all of that, that's, that's called asana.
00:50:04
Daithi Flannery
And you know, and also the practice like, like bear in mind, when you see people doing stretches, stretches and postures and all of that, that's, that's called asana.
00:50:14
Emmet
That's a very, very small part of yoga as a whole.
00:50:14
Daithi Flannery
That's a very, very small part of yoga as a whole.
00:50:16
Emmet
Okay.
00:50:17
Daithi Flannery
Okay.
00:50:17
Emmet
It's what most people think of.
00:50:17
Daithi Flannery
Even though it's what most people think of. it's it's it's It's a part of yoga.
00:50:19
Emmet
it's it's it's It's a part of yoga, very, very um important part of it, you know, but like yoga begins with ah two things that are called the yamas and the niyamas.
00:50:21
Daithi Flannery
Very, very um important part of it, you know? But like yoga begins with ah two things that are called the yamas and the niyamas.
00:50:28
Emmet
They're basically like virtues and things like that.
00:50:28
Daithi Flannery
They're basically like virtues and things like that.
00:50:31
Emmet
You know, number one, yama, yama means control.
00:50:31
Daithi Flannery
You know, number one, yama. Yama means control.
00:50:35
Emmet
So there are things to control or restrict within yourself.
00:50:35
Daithi Flannery
So there are things to control or restrict within yourself.
00:50:38
Emmet
The very first one is nonviolence.
00:50:38
Daithi Flannery
The very first one is nonviolence.
00:50:41
Emmet
It's called a hymnsa in Sanskrit.
00:50:41
Daithi Flannery
It's called a hymnsa in Sanskrit.
00:50:43
Emmet
You know, Mahatma Gandhi spoke at Lint about this.
00:50:43
Daithi Flannery
You know, Mahatma Gandhi spoke at lint about this.
00:50:45
Emmet
I mean, he got the British empire out of India through a hymnsa, which was nonviolence.
00:50:45
Daithi Flannery
I mean, he got the British empire out of India through a hymnsa, which was nonviolence.
00:50:51
Emmet
Anyone that knows anything about Gandhi knows that like he was all about nonviolence yeah and that, you know, so that's the very first.
00:50:51
Daithi Flannery
Anyone that knows anything about Gandhi knows that like he was all about nonviolence yeah and that, you know, so that's the very first.
00:50:58
Emmet
So they're like the foundation of, I'm talking about now living yoga as like, as as a lifestyle, you know, not just going to a class once or twice a week and practicing postures or asanas as they're called in yoga.
00:50:58
Daithi Flannery
So they're like the foundation of, I'm talking about now living yoga as like, as as a lifestyle, you know, not just going to a class once or twice a week and practicing postures or asanas as they're called in yoga.
00:51:10
Emmet
So you have yamas, yamas, first one being non-violence or the hymnsa, then you have like asteya, which is non-tift.
00:51:10
Daithi Flannery
So you have yamas, yamas, first one being non-violence or the hymnsa, then you have like asteya, which is non-tift, which is not stealing and things like that.
00:51:19
Emmet
which is not stealing and things like that there's also satya which means truth and that's kind of about like not gossiping about people and they're just some aspects they're like very very surface level kind of aspects of these things you know there's layers and they go deeper and deeper and deeper but basically like they're about living a virtuous life you know yeah you know a parigraha has another one which means non grasping or non attachment you know these are yamas non attachment not being attached to things
00:51:21
Daithi Flannery
There's also a satya, mean which means truth. and that's kind of about like not gossiping about people and they're just some aspects they're like very very surface level kind of aspects of these things you know there's layers and they go deeper and deeper and deeper but basically like they're about living a virtuous life you know yeah you know a parigraha has another one which means non grasping or non attachment you know these are yeah non attachment not being attached to things
00:51:50
Emmet
You know, not clinging like what is talk about like physical things, like material things, material things, especially at the, at the very surface level, you know, surface level.
00:51:50
Daithi Flannery
You know, not clinging like what is talk about like physical things, like material things, material things, especially at the, at the very surface level, you know, surface level.
00:51:58
Emmet
So if you go deeper, would it be not being attached to say your own distress, your own pain, things like that.
00:51:58
Daithi Flannery
So if you go deeper, would it be not being attached to say your own distress, your own pain, things like that.
00:52:04
Emmet
Also.
00:52:04
Daithi Flannery
Also.
00:52:04
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:52:04
Emmet
Yeah.
00:52:05
Emmet
Yeah.
00:52:05
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:52:05
Daithi Flannery
yeah i i um them things too yeah Absolutely. Emotions and things like that.
00:52:05
Emmet
yeah i i um them things too yeah Absolutely.
00:52:07
Emmet
Emotions and things like that. And yeah, it can go very deep, you know, it can go very deep.
00:52:08
Daithi Flannery
And yeah, it can go very deep, you know, it can go very deep.
00:52:12
Emmet
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:12
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:13
Emmet
Next podcast will go deep on that one.
00:52:13
Daithi Flannery
Next podcast will go deep on that one. Absolutely.
00:52:14
Emmet
Absolutely.
00:52:15
Daithi Flannery
ja Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:15
Emmet
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there's, then there's Asana, which Asana practice, then there's, then there's Pranayama, which is breath control and things like that.
00:52:16
Daithi Flannery
And then there's, then there's Asana, which Asana practice, then there's, then there's Pranayama, which is breath control and things like that.
00:52:23
Emmet
Yeah.
00:52:23
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:52:23
Emmet
That's working with working with your energy.
00:52:23
Daithi Flannery
That's working with working with your energy.
00:52:27
Daithi Flannery
And that is energy challenging kind of controlling and kind of like directing your breath and energy within your body.
00:52:27
Emmet
And that is energy challenging, kind of controlling and kind of like directing your breath and energy within your body.
00:52:34
Emmet
And then it goes into like Pratyahara is another thing, which means like the internalization, interiorization of your senses and stuff, which brings you like to a much deeper state of meditation.
00:52:34
Daithi Flannery
And then it goes into like Pratyahara is another thing, which means like the internalization, interiorization of your senses and stuff, which brings you like to a much deeper state of meditation.
00:52:47
Emmet
interiorization of your senses.
00:52:47
Daithi Flannery
interiorization of your senses.
00:52:48
Emmet
Your senses, yeah.
00:52:48
Daithi Flannery
Your senses, yeah, and stuff like that.
00:52:49
Emmet
Stuff like that. It's a big part of meditation, but it's pretty advanced stuff.
00:52:50
Daithi Flannery
It's a big part of meditation, but it's pretty advanced stuff.
00:52:52
Emmet
No, I wouldn't be there yet either.
00:52:52
Daithi Flannery
No, I wouldn't be there yet either.
00:52:53
Emmet
Yeah.
00:52:53
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:54
Emmet
Yeah. That that sounds interesting.
00:52:54
Daithi Flannery
That that sounds interesting, interiorization of your senses.
00:52:56
Emmet
Interiorization of your senses. But all these things are aspects of yoga.
00:52:58
Daithi Flannery
But all these things are aspects of yoga.
00:53:00
Emmet
We try to, uh, uh, get results out of everything notice.
00:53:00
Daithi Flannery
We try to ah get results out of everything notice.
00:53:05
Daithi Flannery
Everything we do is for what's coming on next.
00:53:05
Emmet
Everything we do is for what's coming next.
00:53:07
Emmet
It's for, uh, consequences.
00:53:07
Daithi Flannery
It's for consequences.
00:53:09
Emmet
It's, you know what I mean?
00:53:09
Daithi Flannery
It's, you know what I mean?
00:53:10
Daithi Flannery
I want to do this and I want this result.
00:53:10
Emmet
I want to do this and I want this result.
00:53:13
Emmet
that seems to be how people approach yoga it's how I approach yoga it's like oh I want to get more limber I'm gonna go down here and do this hot yoga stuff and then I'll be more limber blah blah blah it's a very kind of and I realized I was doing this when we last met as well it's an intellectual kind of way of viewing yoga it's like well what's the point basically or how can I understand this to get some some answer to my question at the end like you know what I mean but
00:53:13
Daithi Flannery
That seems to be how people approach yoga. It's how I approach yoga. It's like, I i want to get more limber. I'm going to go down here and do this hot yoga stuff, and then I'll be more limber, blah, blah, blah. It's a very kind of, and I realized I was doing this when we last met as well. It's an intellectual kind of way of viewing yoga. It's like, well, what's the point basically? Or how can I understand this to get some so answer to my question at the end? Like, you know what I mean? but
00:53:42
Emmet
but it seems like there's a more important way
00:53:42
Daithi Flannery
but it seems like there's a more important way
00:53:45
Emmet
to be with yoga and the sense of kind of
00:53:45
Daithi Flannery
to be with yoga and the sense of kind of
00:53:48
Emmet
and embodied
00:53:48
Daithi Flannery
and embodied
00:53:50
Emmet
norsis
00:53:50
Daithi Flannery
norsis
00:53:51
Daithi Flannery
and
00:53:51
Emmet
and
00:53:52
Emmet
knowsis if you that come across that word and you get to the of
00:53:52
Daithi Flannery
nosis if you that come across that word and you'll get to the of
00:53:57
Emmet
You have a way of knowing through words that we know, that we understand, that we can that we can bring together in concepts and do math with and all this kind of stuff.
00:53:57
Daithi Flannery
You have a way of knowing true words that we know, that we understand, that we can, that we can bring together in concepts and do math with and all this kind of stuff.
00:54:04
Emmet
And then you have another way of knowing, which is a diagnosis, which is...
00:54:04
Daithi Flannery
And then you have another way of knowing, which is a, which is direct experience, not direct experience.
00:54:07
Emmet
Direct experience, no? Direct experience.
00:54:11
Daithi Flannery
Um, but it's that knowledge that's hard to pass on.
00:54:12
Emmet
But it's that knowledge that's hard to pass on.
00:54:15
Daithi Flannery
So yeah, the direct experience is that knowledge.
00:54:15
Emmet
So yeah, direct experience. It's that knowledge that's hard to tell people about because like...
00:54:17
Daithi Flannery
That's hard to tell people about because like where does this word come from?
00:54:19
Emmet
Where does this word come from? all gnosis no sense from you know the word Gnostics yes for for for religious people from like the desert fathers no ah it could be where there it it it might have started in I don't think it did it started with noose nooses like this I know these words you're talking about yeah they originated in Egypt I think they're from from from these people called the desert fathers they were like
00:54:21
Daithi Flannery
all gnosis no sense from you know the word Gnostics yes for for for religious people from like the desert are fathers no oh it could be where there it it it might have started in I don't think it did it started with noose nooses like this I know these words you're talking about yeah they originated in Egypt I think they're from from from these people called the desert fathers they were like
00:54:45
Emmet
almost hermits, kind of like three, 400 years after Christ was there.
00:54:45
Daithi Flannery
almost hermits, kind of like three, 400 years after Christ was there.
00:54:51
Emmet
They lived in the desert in northern Egypt, I think.
00:54:51
Daithi Flannery
They lived in the desert in northern Egypt, I think.
00:54:56
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:54:56
Emmet
Yeah.
00:54:56
Emmet
Yeah.
00:54:56
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:54:58
Emmet
I've heard these words before.
00:54:58
Daithi Flannery
I've heard these words before.
00:54:59
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:54:59
Emmet
Yeah.
00:55:00
Emmet
But I think they're the Niptic Fathers.
00:55:00
Daithi Flannery
But I think they're the niptic fathers.
00:55:02
Emmet
I think they're God.
00:55:02
Daithi Flannery
I think they're God.
00:55:03
Emmet
Okay, they have a book called the field of Calia.
00:55:03
Daithi Flannery
Okay. They have a book called the Philokalia.
00:55:07
Emmet
Check it out.
00:55:07
Daithi Flannery
Check it out.
00:55:08
Daithi Flannery
Okay. Well, yeah. Yeah. That is our fathers are talking about there.
00:55:08
Emmet
Okay, well, yeah, yeah, that is our fathers are talking about there.
00:55:11
Emmet
Yeah, I've read a bit about these guys, they spoke about them a little bit after school.
00:55:11
Daithi Flannery
Yeah. I've read a bit about these guys. They spoke about them a little bit at the school.
00:55:15
Emmet
Very good.
00:55:15
Daithi Flannery
Very good. Very good.
00:55:15
Emmet
very good yeah So as thinking there is kind of a link with yoga and and words and concepts like this, like nurses,
00:55:16
Daithi Flannery
Yeah. So I was thinking there is kind of a link with yoga and and words and concepts like this, like Gnosis.
00:55:23
Daithi Flannery
like that you maybe have to have a direct experience but that's what yoga is all about yeah even the Buddha talks about that a lot the Buddha is always saying like don't take my word first go find out for yourself yeah yeah yana yoga that's another way of describing it the yoga of direct knowledge or the yoga of direct experience okay you know again it's difficult to kind of probably explain and relate yoga to people like i'm just putting myself
00:55:23
Emmet
like that you maybe have to have a direct experience but that's what yoga is all about yeah even the Buddha talks about that a lot the Buddha is always saying like don't take my word first go find out for yourself yeah yeah yana yoga that's another way of describing it the yoga of direct knowledge or the yoga of direct experience okay you know again it's difficult to kind of probably explain and relate yoga to people like i'm just putting myself
00:55:49
Emmet
listening to my myself three and a half years ago now.
00:55:49
Daithi Flannery
listening to my myself three and a half years ago now.
00:55:53
Emmet
And like, try talking to yourself 20 years ago.
00:55:53
Daithi Flannery
And like, try talking to yourself 20 years ago. Yeah, exactly.
00:55:56
Emmet
Yeah, exactly.
00:55:57
Daithi Flannery
And just like my understanding of yoga before three and a half years ago, when I didn't even know what the word meant.
00:55:57
Emmet
And just like my understanding of yoga before three and a half years ago, when I didn't even know what the word meant. It's just like, yeah.
00:56:08
Daithi Flannery
It's just like, yeah.
00:56:10
Daithi Flannery
How do you explain to people what yoga is?
00:56:10
Emmet
How do you explain to people what yoga is?
00:56:12
Emmet
It's so much more than just that ass and stretching practice and all that.
00:56:12
Daithi Flannery
It's so much more than just that ass and stretching practice and all that.
00:56:16
Emmet
And I suppose when you're talking about karma yoga, back to yoga, yana yoga, and stuff like that.
00:56:16
Daithi Flannery
And I suppose when you're talking about karma yoga, back to yoga, yana yoga and stuff like that.
00:56:23
Daithi Flannery
I suppose that's pretty deep stuff.
00:56:23
Emmet
I suppose, yeah, it's pretty deep stuff.
00:56:25
Emmet
And it has to be experienced.
00:56:25
Daithi Flannery
And it has to be experienced.
00:56:27
Daithi Flannery
It's very hard to to to pass this knowledge on.
00:56:27
Emmet
It's very hard to to to pass this knowledge on.
00:56:30
Emmet
I know it is passed on with words, but it's only really passed on when somebody goes and practices it.
00:56:30
Daithi Flannery
I know it is passed on with words, but it's only really passed on when somebody goes and practices it. Like we can sit here now and talk, but
00:56:36
Emmet
Like we can sit here now and no one talk, Like we last time doing, we talked, I didn't really understand a lot of what you said until I went off and tried to fucking meditate.
00:56:39
Daithi Flannery
Like we last time doing, we talked, I didn't really understand a lot of what you said until I went off and tried to fucking meditate.
00:56:45
Emmet
This confrontation shit is no joke.
00:56:45
Daithi Flannery
This confrontation shit is no joke. Do you know what I mean?
00:56:47
Emmet
Do you know what I mean?
00:56:48
Daithi Flannery
So it has to be experienced.
00:56:49
Emmet
It has to be experienced. Yeah.
00:56:51
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:56:52
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:56:52
Emmet
Yeah.
00:56:52
Daithi Flannery
That's it.
00:56:52
Emmet
That's it.
00:56:53
Emmet
Like if you haven't experienced something, you don't, you don't really know what it is.
00:56:53
Daithi Flannery
Like if you haven't experienced something, you don't, you don't really know what it is.
00:56:57
Emmet
No, they just just concepts.
00:56:57
Daithi Flannery
No, they just just concepts.
00:56:58
Emmet
You just, it's an intellectual understanding.
00:56:58
Daithi Flannery
You just, it's an intellectual understanding.
00:57:00
Emmet
Yeah, you know, yeah, but it's important to have that intellectual understanding as well, because it's like using the mind as a tool.
00:57:00
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, you know, yeah, but it's important to have that intellectual understanding as well, because it's like using the mind as a tool. No, it gives you it gives gives you direction.
00:57:07
Emmet
No, it gives you it gives gives you direction. Yeah, you know, it's like theory and practice.
00:57:10
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, you know, it's like theory and practice, theory and practice, yes you know, um yeah practice gives you direction.
00:57:13
Emmet
Theory and practice. yes You know, um yeah practice gives you direction. are Sorry, the theory gives you direction.
00:57:16
Daithi Flannery
are Sorry, the theory gives you direction.
00:57:19
Daithi Flannery
So you know what you're doing with your mind is using it as a tool, you know, and then when you practice kind of just practice meditation and yoga, I don't know, man, sometimes things happen and you can't really explain them, you know,
00:57:19
Emmet
So you know what you're doing with your mind is using it as a tool, you know.
00:57:23
Emmet
And then when you practice kind of just practice meditation and yoga, I don't know, man, sometimes things happen and you can't really explain them, you know, yeah especially in retreats and stuff when you're in silence for 10 days and when you're doing like a yoga module at the school as well three week three week yoga course i remember that i done module one in july 2021 and like man for the first time in my life i was doing two hours of hathi yoga every morning and two hours of hathi yoga in the afternoon and man fuck me man things are moving you know i was feeling stuff going on in my body i was like what the fuck has gone on here what kind of stuff
00:57:30
Daithi Flannery
yeah especially in retreats and stuff when you're in silence for 10 days and when you're doing like a yoga module at the school as well three week three week yoga course i remember that i done module one in july 2021 and like man for the first time in my life i was doing two hours of hathi yoga every morning and two hours of hathi yoga in the afternoon and Man, man, fuck me, man.
00:57:49
Daithi Flannery
Things were moving. You know, I was feeling stuff going on in my body. I was like, oh what the fuck has gone on here? What kind of stuff?
00:57:54
Emmet
energy moving and stuff, sensations, tingling in my fingers, man, my head bows and things like that.
00:57:54
Daithi Flannery
Energy moving and stuff. Really? Sensations tingling in my fingers, man. My head buzzing. Things like that. Wow.
00:58:01
Daithi Flannery
You know?
00:58:01
Emmet
You know,
00:58:02
Emmet
want there it's just like, it was mike my d yeah, man.
00:58:02
Daithi Flannery
What the hell is this stuff? You're like, it was my teeth. Yeah, man.
00:58:06
Emmet
Yeah.
00:58:06
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:58:07
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
00:58:07
Emmet
Yeah.
00:58:08
Emmet
That sounds like a process now as well.
00:58:08
Daithi Flannery
That sounds intense. Yeah. that's A bit of a process now as well.
00:58:11
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, there was stuff going on, man.
00:58:11
Emmet
Yeah.
00:58:11
Emmet
There was stuff going on, man. There was stuff moving.
00:58:12
Daithi Flannery
There was stuff moving.
00:58:14
Emmet
believe me but it's hard to believe that we have the power to do that ourselves without any like stimulants or without anything just this is what i love about yoga meditation man it's putting all the fucking power in your hands you know it's just it's just like you know you have the power to like deeply deeply transform yourself
00:58:14
Daithi Flannery
believe me but it's hard to believe that we have the power to do that ourselves without any like stimulants or without anything just this is what i love about yoga meditation man it's putting all the fucking power in your hands you know it's just it's just like you know you have the power to like deeply deeply transform yourself
00:58:30
Emmet
It takes a lot of discipline.
00:58:30
Daithi Flannery
It takes a lot of discipline.
00:58:32
Daithi Flannery
I won't lie.
00:58:32
Emmet
I won't lie.
00:58:33
Emmet
It takes a lot of discipline, but man, like the rewards are just something else.
00:58:33
Daithi Flannery
It takes a lot of discipline, but man, like the rewards are just something else.
00:58:37
Emmet
you know It's really, really transformational stuff.
00:58:37
Daithi Flannery
you know It's really, really transformational stuff.
00:58:40
Emmet
I imagine it is.
00:58:40
Daithi Flannery
I imagine there is.
00:58:41
Emmet
Put yourself into retreats.
00:58:41
Daithi Flannery
Put yourself into retreats.
00:58:44
Emmet
Because you can do things in retreats where you'd never
00:58:44
Daithi Flannery
Because you can do things in retreats where you'd never
00:58:48
Daithi Flannery
you're in a container you know you're in that perfect environment you go to the school or a school v passana is another very uh common type of meditation retreat it's a Buddhist meditation i've done one of them but uh anyway a lot of people do v passana as well and you never never have that discipline to be sitting to meditate for two hours in the morning and two and a half hours in the afternoon
00:58:48
Emmet
you're in a container, you know, you're in that perfect environment.
00:58:50
Emmet
You go to the school or a school V passing is another very common type of meditation retreat. It's a Buddhist meditation. I've done one of them. But anyway, a lot of people do be passing as well.
00:59:01
Emmet
And You never, never have that discipline to be sitting to meditate for two hours in the morning and two and a half hours in the afternoon. You're never going to do that on your own unless you go somewhere, put yourself in that environment, put yourself in that container.
00:59:11
Daithi Flannery
You're never going to do that on your own unless you go somewhere, put yourself in that environment, put yourself in that container.
00:59:17
Emmet
You know, you're pushing past limitations when you go and you put yourself in that environment and in that inda container and you go and you commit.
00:59:17
Daithi Flannery
You know, you're pushing past limitations. yeah When you go and you put yourself in that environment and in that container and you go and you commit. with numerous other people to do that and you come out the other end of it man and it's just like wow you know and you've had so many days in between you're like fuck man I wanted to quit you know I wanted to quit you know and you just you know you're stuck with it because you were there.
00:59:26
Emmet
with numerous other people to do that and you come out the other end of it man and it's just like wow you know and you've had so many days in between you're like fuck man I wanted to quit you know I wanted to quit you know and you just you know you stuck with it because you were there.
00:59:42
Emmet
Do people quit.
00:59:42
Daithi Flannery
Do people quit.
00:59:44
Daithi Flannery
I've never seen anybody quit.
00:59:44
Emmet
I've never seen anybody quit.
00:59:46
Emmet
I've done one v-pass and a meditation retreat here in Ireland a couple of years ago.
00:59:46
Daithi Flannery
I've done one v-pass and a meditation retreat here in Ireland a couple of years ago.
00:59:50
Emmet
I see one guy left.
00:59:50
Daithi Flannery
I see one guy left.
00:59:52
Emmet
One guy did leave.
00:59:52
Daithi Flannery
One guy did leave.
00:59:53
Emmet
where i
00:59:53
Daithi Flannery
where i
00:59:54
Daithi Flannery
but ah
00:59:54
Emmet
but ah
00:59:56
Emmet
I'm trying to think and it's irrelevant how many you don't, but I've done a good few of them now.
00:59:56
Daithi Flannery
I'm trying to think and it's irrelevant how many you don't, but I've done a good few of them now.
01:00:02
Daithi Flannery
And I can't, I can't remember anybody ever quitting.
01:00:02
Emmet
And I can't, I can't remember anybody ever quitting.
01:00:05
Daithi Flannery
This is the beauty of putting yourself in the container to do it and putting yourself, you know, it's a commitment to yourself.
01:00:05
Emmet
This is the beauty of putting yourself in the container to do it and putting yourself, you know, it's a commitment to yourself.
01:00:11
Emmet
it is yeah You know, you commit, but it's a big commitment.
01:00:11
Daithi Flannery
is yeah You know, you commit, but it's a big commitment.
01:00:14
Daithi Flannery
It's a massive commitment.
01:00:14
Emmet
It's a massive commitment.
01:00:15
Emmet
It's a commitment to, to, to do different stuff as well.
01:00:15
Daithi Flannery
It's a commitment to, to, to do different stuff as well.
01:00:18
Emmet
like Very difficult stuff.
01:00:18
Daithi Flannery
like Very difficult stuff. Yeah.
01:00:19
Emmet
Yeah. You know, it really is like even the physical,
01:00:20
Daithi Flannery
You know, it really is like even the physical,
01:00:26
Daithi Flannery
part of it. You know what I mean?
01:00:26
Emmet
part of it.
01:00:27
Emmet
You know what I mean?
01:00:27
Daithi Flannery
You push yourself past with the physical poses and all this kind of stuff.
01:00:27
Emmet
You push yourself past with the physical poses and all this kind of stuff.
01:00:32
Daithi Flannery
And the like, am I thinking of it right?
01:00:32
Emmet
And like, am I thinking of it right?
01:00:34
Daithi Flannery
Do you sit, to me, the way people sit in yoga looks really difficult and often can't be, it's very difficult to sit for 10 days and a couple hours in the morning and then a couple hours in the afternoon.
01:00:35
Emmet
Do you sit, to me, the way people sit in yoga looks really difficult and often can't be, it's very difficult to sit for 10 days and a couple hours in the morning and a couple hours in the afternoon.
01:00:45
Emmet
Yeah, man.
01:00:45
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, man. There's a experience and all those, it's probably one of the toughest things about it pushing past physical discomfort and stuff like that.
01:00:46
Emmet
There's a experience and all those, it's probably one of the toughest things about it pushing past physical discomfort and stuff like that. Yeah.
01:00:52
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:00:52
Emmet
But I mean, like, again, there's a lot of support at these retreats, you know, my very, very capable teachers and stuff like that.
01:00:52
Daithi Flannery
But I mean, like, again, there's a lot of support at these retreats, you know, my very, very capable teachers and stuff like that.
01:00:58
Emmet
And there's, do they have like TP and stuff?
01:00:58
Daithi Flannery
And there's teachers. Do they have like deep heat and stuff?
01:01:03
Daithi Flannery
and Get it if you want.
01:01:03
Emmet
and Get it if you want.
01:01:04
Emmet
yeah If you wanted it, you could have it.
01:01:04
Daithi Flannery
yeah If you wanted it, you could have it.
01:01:05
Emmet
Yeah.
01:01:05
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:01:06
Emmet
You know, but there's a lot of explanation on how to sit as well and how to use cushions and there's little meditation benches and there's chairs along the side of the hall as well, you know, as you are going to face physical discomfort, no question about it.
01:01:06
Daithi Flannery
You know, but there's a lot of explanation on how to sit as well and how to use cushions. And there's little meditation benches and there's chairs along the side of the hall as well. You know, as you are going to face physical discomfort, no question about it.
01:01:20
Emmet
And there's that part of building up resilience too, just getting pushing past that.
01:01:20
Daithi Flannery
And is that part of building up resilience too, just getting pushing past that?
01:01:23
Daithi Flannery
To an extent.
01:01:23
Emmet
To an extent.
01:01:24
Emmet
Don't like, you can push.
01:01:24
Daithi Flannery
Don't like, you can push.
01:01:27
Emmet
It's interesting.
01:01:27
Daithi Flannery
It's interesting.
01:01:27
Emmet
The mind is a mad thing.
01:01:27
Daithi Flannery
The mind is a mad thing. I think a couple of years ago, I was kind of struggling with like backache and stuff.
01:01:29
Emmet
I think a couple of years ago, I was kind of struggling with like backache and stuff. And.
01:01:33
Daithi Flannery
And.
01:01:36
Emmet
I remember doing a meditation retreat and speaking to the teacher and saying like, yeah, I'm having back trouble.
01:01:36
Daithi Flannery
I remember doing a meditation retreat and speaking to the teacher and saying like, yeah, I'm having back trouble.
01:01:42
Emmet
And the teacher told me to tune into what sort of thoughts and emotions are coming.
01:01:42
Daithi Flannery
And the teacher told me to tune into what sort of thoughts and emotions are coming.
01:01:51
Emmet
when I start to feel the discomfort and the pain in my back, you know, and it was bringing up so much frustration, even anger and stuff like that.
01:01:51
Daithi Flannery
when I start to feel the discomfort and the pain in my back, you know, and it was bringing up so much frustration, even anger and stuff like that.
01:01:58
Emmet
And this has been going on gone on for quite a while in my meditation practice, you know, as I sit every morning and doing retreats as well.
01:01:58
Daithi Flannery
And this has been going on and gone on for quite a while in my meditation practice, you know, as I sit every morning and doing retreats as well.
01:02:06
Daithi Flannery
And that obviously, but, uh, yeah, I really started to work with that in my meditation practice and
01:02:06
Emmet
And that obviously, but, uh, yeah, I really started to work with that in my meditation practice and
01:02:15
Emmet
I had such a strong resistance to it.
01:02:15
Daithi Flannery
I had such a strong resistance to it.
01:02:18
Emmet
I'd be sitting meditation, I could be sitting for 10 or 15 minutes and I'm thinking, oh yeah, it's lovely meditation all as well.
01:02:18
Daithi Flannery
I'd be sitting in meditation, I could be sitting for 10 or 15 minutes and I'm thinking, oh yeah, it's lovely meditation all as well.
01:02:24
Emmet
Nice and peaceful, nice and calm.
01:02:24
Daithi Flannery
Nice and peaceful, nice and calm.
01:02:25
Emmet
And then the backache could come along and I'd start getting really frustrated.
01:02:25
Daithi Flannery
And then the backache could come along and I'd start getting really frustrated.
01:02:29
Emmet
Like that's just such resistance there.
01:02:29
Daithi Flannery
Like that's just such resistance there.
01:02:31
Emmet
Such resistance to that pain, you know?
01:02:31
Daithi Flannery
Such resistance to that pain, you know?
01:02:34
Emmet
And then I started like,
01:02:34
Daithi Flannery
And then I started like,
01:02:37
Emmet
just really working on accepting it.
01:02:37
Daithi Flannery
just really working on accepting it. And another thing as well, like I'd be sitting in a retreat or something i'm a backab ben and And in my mind, I'd want to wander off daydreaming.
01:02:40
Emmet
And another thing as well, like I'd be sitting in a retreat or something and my back would be aching. And in my mind, I'd want to wander off daydreaming. And I could be off daydreaming for five, 10 minutes thinking about nice stuff.
01:02:49
Daithi Flannery
And I could be off daydreaming for five, 10 minutes thinking about nice stuff. I know fucking pain.
01:02:53
Emmet
And no fucking pain. And then like, obviously the, you know, the idea of meditation is like, okay, my mind is after drifting and bring my mind back to my breath, you know?
01:02:55
Daithi Flannery
And then like, obviously the, you know, the idea of meditation is like, okay, my mind is after drifting and bring my mind back to my breath, you know? yeah And the second I'd catch my mind that I realized my mind is after drifting and bring it back on the job, we'd say, back comes the pain.
01:03:01
Emmet
yeah And the second I'd catch my mind that I realized my mind is after drifting and bring it back on the job, we'd say back comes the pain. You know what I mean?
01:03:12
Daithi Flannery
You know what I mean?
01:03:12
Emmet
And I'm like, do you know and what's going on here?
01:03:12
Daithi Flannery
and like Do you know and what's going on here?
01:03:16
Emmet
A lot, a lot of it's, a lot of it's coming from the mind, a lot of it's coming from the mind, some crazy stuff.
01:03:16
Daithi Flannery
A lot a lot of it's a lot of it coming from the mind. A lot of it's coming from the mind. Some crazy stuff.
01:03:22
Emmet
Yeah, mine can do some mad stuff in meditation retreats.
01:03:22
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, mine can do some mad stuff in meditation retreats. Coming up with excuses and stuff to try and get you out of there man.
01:03:25
Emmet
Come on up with excuses and stuff to try and get you out of there, man. You know, I know.
01:03:29
Daithi Flannery
I know. um everybody Everybody does it.
01:03:31
Emmet
Everybody, everybody does it. It's just the way the mind is, you know?
01:03:33
Daithi Flannery
It's just the way the mind is. you know is yeah
01:03:35
Emmet
It is. Yeah. Yeah.
01:03:36
Daithi Flannery
yeah
01:03:37
Emmet
Escape is and then did it as how did you deal with the back problem going forward then as a fixed.
01:03:37
Daithi Flannery
yeahism and to as How did you deal with the back problem going forward then? has it fixed smart timea It's so much more acceptance of it.
01:03:42
Emmet
smart time or It's so much more acceptance of it and it's got way less.
01:03:44
Daithi Flannery
And it's got way less.
01:03:46
Emmet
You got way less acceptance of it.
01:03:46
Daithi Flannery
It's got way less acceptance of it.
01:03:48
Emmet
Yeah.
01:03:48
Daithi Flannery
yeah It's terrifying.
01:03:49
Emmet
It's there fine. But again,
01:03:50
Daithi Flannery
But again,
01:03:52
Daithi Flannery
I can't really die at the school. And they're retreating us. like There's an emphasis on, especially with the yoga practice, the asana practice, because it's physical exercises, obviously. Well, not exercises, but postures.
01:03:52
Emmet
Like at Radia, the school, and the retreats and that, like, there's an emphasis on, especially with the yoga practice, the asana practice, because it's physical exercises, obviously, well, not exercises, but postures.
01:04:03
Emmet
There's a big emphasis on finding and the balance between effort and relaxation, and especially in the meditation retreats, it's like,
01:04:03
Daithi Flannery
There's a big emphasis on finding and the balance between effort and relaxation. And especially in the meditation retreats, it's like, don't push past pain.
01:04:10
Emmet
Don't push past pain. You know, you don't want to be hurting yourself.
01:04:13
Daithi Flannery
You don't want to be hurting your yourself.
01:04:15
Emmet
ah Don't damage yourself, injuring yourself, you know?
01:04:15
Daithi Flannery
ah Don't damage to yourself, injuring yourself. you know
01:04:18
Daithi Flannery
But just like try and sit through discomfort sometimes. If yeah feel a bit of pain, feel a bit of discomfort.
01:04:18
Emmet
But just like, try and sit through discomfort sometimes, you know?
01:04:24
Emmet
If you feel a bit of pain, feel a bit of discomfort.
01:04:28
Emmet
Take five minutes before you move.
01:04:28
Daithi Flannery
Take five minutes before you move.
01:04:30
Emmet
you know yeah sit down No, I won't move now for five minutes.
01:04:30
Daithi Flannery
you know yeah set down No, I won't move now for five minutes.
01:04:33
Emmet
If it's still there in five minutes or 10 minutes, I'll really just maybe prop myself up on another cushion or something, switch legs or something like that.
01:04:33
Daithi Flannery
If it's still there in five minutes or 10 minutes, I'll really just maybe prop myself up on another cushion or something, switch legs or something like that.
01:04:43
Daithi Flannery
you know Just do something.
01:04:43
Emmet
you know Just do something.
01:04:44
Emmet
But I won't move for another few minutes at least and see.
01:04:44
Daithi Flannery
But I won't move for another few minutes at least and see.
01:04:48
Emmet
and sometimes like
01:04:48
Daithi Flannery
and sometimes like
01:04:51
Emmet
It's just gone in five minutes or 10 minutes.
01:04:51
Daithi Flannery
It's just gone in five minutes or 10 minutes.
01:04:53
Daithi Flannery
What I've noticed when I try to meditate is I suddenly get itches all over the place.
01:04:53
Emmet
What I've noticed when I try to meditate is I suddenly get itches all over the place.
01:04:57
Emmet
yeah What's the story with that?
01:04:57
Daithi Flannery
yeah What's the story with that life?
01:04:59
Emmet
What's the story with that?
01:05:00
Daithi Flannery
What's the story with that life?
01:05:01
Emmet
then there might have been there and It's just agitation.
01:05:03
Daithi Flannery
It's just agitation.
01:05:04
Daithi Flannery
It's just I have an itch under my arm but I never get itchy right in that spot in your back that you can't reach.
01:05:04
Emmet
it's just i mean It's agitation.
01:05:06
Emmet
Itch under my arm, but I never get itchy right in that spot in your back that you can't reach. just like that the hardest thing for me in the beginning all these sensations you know you know these you want to scratch and you're tingling and things like that tickly spots and you want to just rub your chin or something or scratch your ear and ah rub the back your head or does that go in time
01:05:10
Daithi Flannery
just like that the hardest thing for me in the beginning all these sensations you know you know these you want to scratch and you're tingling and things like that tickly spots and you want to just rub your chin or something or scratch your ear and ah rub the back your head or does that go in time it settles down for sure yeah definitely that used to be a big one for me you know I used to find it extremely difficult to sit still in the beginning
01:05:26
Emmet
It settles down for sure. Yeah, definitely. That used to be a big one for me, you know, I used to find it extremely difficult to sit still in the beginning, you know, and then for a while, it's interesting.
01:05:34
Daithi Flannery
You know, and then for a while, it's interesting.
01:05:37
Emmet
And then for a while, and I was just putting so much effort on like not moving a muscle for as long as I could, you know?
01:05:37
Daithi Flannery
And then for a while, and I was just putting so much effort on like not moving a muscle for as long as I could, you know?
01:05:45
Emmet
And I suppose when I think back without even realizing it, like I've kind of moved fast to go build that stuff in my meditation practice.
01:05:45
Daithi Flannery
And I suppose when I think back, without even realizing it, like I've kind of moved fast to go build that stuff in my meditation practice.
01:05:52
Emmet
you look forward to meditation sometimes yes yeah but still sometimes it's it's it's it's still like sometimes it feels like a chore you know but for me it's my number one non-negotiable in life and has been for the last three and a half years is to meditate every day that's number one non-negotiable non-negotiable meditate every day you know i'd miss the odd day if you have if you're having a stressful time in life or whatever and let's say you have
01:05:52
Daithi Flannery
you look forward to meditation sometimes yes yeah but still sometimes it's it's it's it's still like sometimes it feels like a chore you know but for me it's my number one non-negotiable in life and has been for the last three and a half years is to meditate every day that's number one non-negotiable non-negotiable meditate every day you know i'd miss the odd day if you have if you're having a stressful time in life or whatever and let's say you have
01:06:19
Emmet
and conflict during the day or you know something happens you're like I can't wait to meditate on this letter or I can't wait is meditation a bit of an escape even?
01:06:19
Daithi Flannery
in conflict during on the day or you know something happens. You're like, I can't wait to meditate on this letter or I can't wait. Is meditation a bit of an escape, even? I'm afraid it doesn't usually work like that.
01:06:29
Emmet
I'm afraid it doesn't usually work like that.
01:06:32
Daithi Flannery
Usually if you're fucking stressed and maybe like, you know, if you've got a bit of shit going on, that's probably when you need it the most.
01:06:32
Emmet
Usually if you're fucking stressed and maybe like you know if you've got a bit of shit going on that's probably when you need it the most but unfortunately that's when it's the most difficult.
01:06:39
Daithi Flannery
But unfortunately, that's when it's the most difficult.
01:06:42
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:06:42
Emmet
yeah
01:06:42
Daithi Flannery
But that's when you need it the most.
01:06:42
Emmet
but that's when you need it the most.
01:06:44
Emmet
This is why I'm very adamant done every day of practice because when things are good and you feel content and you're happy and whatnot, it's easy to sit, you know?
01:06:44
Daithi Flannery
This is why I'm very adamant on everyday practice. because when things are good and you feel content and you're happy and whatnot, it's easy to sit, you know?
01:06:57
Daithi Flannery
But, you know, if something gets triggered or you're stressed or something agitates or something like that, or any number of things happen in your life, you know, and you get stressed or you get angry or anything like that, then it's really difficult to sit, you know?
01:06:57
Emmet
But, you know, if something gets triggered or you're stressed or something agitates or something like that, or any number of things happen in your life, you know, and you get stressed or you get angry or anything like that, then it's really difficult to sit, you know?
01:07:11
Emmet
So if you're not doing it consistently in my own experience, you have no chance when you really need to do it.
01:07:11
Daithi Flannery
So if you're not doing it consistently in my own experience, You have no chance when you really need to do it.
01:07:19
Emmet
Do you know what I mean?
01:07:19
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean?
01:07:20
Emmet
Do you get me?
01:07:20
Daithi Flannery
Do you get me?
01:07:21
Emmet
So you're building up that practice, that that training, that muscle to be able to
01:07:21
Daithi Flannery
So you're building up that practice, that that that training, that muscle to be able to
01:07:25
Daithi Flannery
yeah who it when it's really Yeah.
01:07:25
Emmet
yeah who it when it's really Yeah.
01:07:27
Emmet
Absolutely.
01:07:27
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely.
01:07:28
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely.
01:07:28
Emmet
Absolutely.
01:07:29
Daithi Flannery
And you can just lose it so fast.
01:07:29
Emmet
And you can just lose it so fast.
01:07:32
Emmet
You know, that's kind of like, I suppose that level of awareness you have when you're meditating every day, you know, yeah that kind of like, I suppose you're building up like, like you said, building a muscle.
01:07:32
Daithi Flannery
You know, that's kind of like, I suppose that level of awareness you have when you're meditating every day, you know, yeah that kind of like, I suppose you're building up like, like you said, building a muscle.
01:07:43
Daithi Flannery
It's like a capacity to capacity, better word, a capacity to
01:07:43
Emmet
It's like a capacity to capacity, better word, a capacity to
01:07:48
Emmet
to be able to witness your thoughts and your emotions, give yourself a little bit of space, you know, give yourself a little bit of space from your thoughts and emotions.
01:07:48
Daithi Flannery
to be able to witness your thoughts and your emotions, give yourself a little bit of space, you know, give yourself a little bit of space from your thoughts and emotions.
01:07:57
Emmet
If you're consistent with it every day, when a bit of shit does come up or you get agitated or you get stressed or whatnot, you know, you are able to sit and I have sat many times stressed or agitated or whatnot and
01:07:57
Daithi Flannery
If you're consistent with it every day, when a bit of shit does come up or you get agitated or you get stressed or whatnot, you know, you are able to sit and I have sat many times stressed or agitated or whatnot and
01:08:11
Emmet
yeah like in the space of even an hour just a huge shift huge shift you know yeah whatever was bothering you or on your mind or whatever you might have been agitated about or anything and can be just like completely gone at the end of an hour long meditation because you've kind of
01:08:11
Daithi Flannery
yeah like in the space of even an hour just a huge shift huge shift you know yeah whatever was bothering you or on your mind or whatever you might have been agitated about or anything and can be just like completely gone at the end of an hour long meditation because you've kind of
01:08:28
Emmet
had that space had that space of stillness where you're like coming out of the whirlwind and looking at us from a bit of a distance, maybe yes I've been ah been able to see it from from a almost neutral position.
01:08:28
Daithi Flannery
had that space had that space of stillness where you're like coming out of the whirlwind and looking at us from a bit of a distance, maybe yes I've been ah been able to see it from from a almost neutral position.
01:08:38
Emmet
Yeah, exactly.
01:08:38
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, exactly.
01:08:39
Emmet
Yeah, exactly.
01:08:39
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, exactly.
01:08:40
Emmet
Yeah.
01:08:40
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:08:41
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:08:41
Emmet
Yeah.
01:08:41
Emmet
Create, you know, gives you a bit of space.
01:08:41
Daithi Flannery
Create, you know, gives you a bit of space.
01:08:43
Emmet
Yeah.
01:08:43
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:08:43
Emmet
Yeah.
01:08:43
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:08:44
Emmet
Because it's very hard when people are right in something when they're right in arguments or emotionally really involved in something.
01:08:44
Daithi Flannery
Because it's very hard when people are right in something when they're right in arguments or emotionally really involved in something.
01:08:51
Emmet
It's very hard for them to kind of
01:08:51
Daithi Flannery
It's very hard for them to kind of
01:08:54
Emmet
see the intricacies of it even you know yeah you see what might be wrong or where where where it's really coming from how much of it is emotion how much of it is actually practical sense you know what as I mean but the beauty the beauty for me about being able to like if you can sit when like your emotions and that are turbulent and there's a lot of disturbance inside you is like
01:08:54
Daithi Flannery
see the intricacies of it even you know yeah you see what might be wrong or where where where it's really coming from how much of it is emotion how much of it is actually practical sense you know what as I mean but the beauty the beauty for me about being able to like if you can sit when like your emotions and that are turbulent and there's a lot of disturbance inside you is like
01:09:13
Emmet
You can just allow it to pass, you know, but you're sitting with her, you know, sit with her and it can pass.
01:09:13
Daithi Flannery
You can just allow it to pass, you know, but you're sitting with her, you know, sit with her and it can pass.
01:09:22
Emmet
And once that passes, then it's like you're seeing, it's crazy to shift in perception when whatever disturbance was going on inside you has passed and you're calm again.
01:09:22
Daithi Flannery
And once that passes, then it's like you're seeing, it's crazy to shift in perception when whatever disturbance was going on inside you has passed and you're calm again.
01:09:32
Emmet
yeah you're taught it's it's it's it's you're a different person yeah it's very very different you're seeing the world through new glasses you're seeing the world through new glasses yeah whatever was bothering you or whatever disturbed you has passed and it's just like shit i need to get better at this meditation stuff god damn it practice practice man i have to practice uh retreat sometime
01:09:32
Daithi Flannery
yeah you're taught it's it's it's it's you're a different person yeah it's very very different you're seeing the world through new glasses you're seeing the world through new glasses yeah whatever was bothering you or whatever disturbed you has passed and it's just like shit i need to get better at this meditation stuff god damn it practice practice man i have to practice uh retreat sometime
01:09:55
Emmet
Yeah, we won't call that fair just yet.
01:09:55
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, we won't call that fair just yet.
01:09:57
Emmet
I'll do it.
01:09:57
Daithi Flannery
I'll do it. i do it i will I'll do it.
01:09:57
Emmet
I'll do it. I'll have to do it.
01:09:59
Daithi Flannery
I'll have to do it.
01:09:59
Emmet
I'll have to do it.
01:09:59
Daithi Flannery
I'll have to do it.
01:10:00
Daithi Flannery
Because no, I have been interested in it.
01:10:00
Emmet
Because no, I have been interested in it.
01:10:02
Emmet
And there is.
01:10:02
Daithi Flannery
And there is...
01:10:03
Daithi Flannery
This is your karma now. You're being introduced to it, you know?
01:10:03
Emmet
This is your karma now you're being introduced to it, you know.
01:10:06
Emmet
Thanks.
01:10:06
Daithi Flannery
Thanks so much.
01:10:06
Emmet
um and Yeah, no, I will.
01:10:08
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, no, I will.
01:10:10
Emmet
I'll have to do it.
01:10:10
Daithi Flannery
I'll have to do it.
01:10:10
Emmet
And then we'll come out and have another talk about how much I cried and fucking
01:10:10
Daithi Flannery
And then we'll come out and have another talk about how much I cried and fucking...
01:10:16
Emmet
Yeah, no, we'd see.
01:10:16
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, no, we'd see.
01:10:17
Emmet
But a big interest of mine is the natural world.
01:10:17
Daithi Flannery
But a big interest of mine is is the natural world.
01:10:22
Emmet
And I'd call it the rest of nature because I don't see it as outside of it.
01:10:22
Daithi Flannery
And I'd call it the rest of nature, because I don't see it as outside of it.
01:10:26
Emmet
So it's the rest of nature.
01:10:26
Daithi Flannery
So it's the rest of nature.
01:10:27
Emmet
likewise Yeah, I even tried to start a thing where we'd use the acronym RON to describe it so that we were almost personifying it.
01:10:27
Daithi Flannery
likewise Yeah, I even tried to start a thing where we'd use the acronym RON to describe it so that we were almost personifying it. and and And it's having its own agency and importance and maybe a seat at the political table when we're discussing things sometimes.
01:10:35
Emmet
And it's having its own agency and importance and maybe a seat at the political table when we're discussing things sometimes. But we'll stick with the rest of nature for now.
01:10:42
Daithi Flannery
But we'll stick with the rest of nature for now.
01:10:45
Emmet
um
01:10:45
Daithi Flannery
um
01:10:46
Emmet
I think the we're getting very, very, very disconnected from nature.
01:10:46
Daithi Flannery
I think the we're getting very, very, very disconnected from nature.
01:10:50
Emmet
oh yeah I mean, we go around in our little metal boxes, travelling from place to place, walking on our flat roads, going into our concrete boxes, watching our screens.
01:10:50
Daithi Flannery
oh yeah I mean, we go around in our little metal boxes, travelling from place to place, walking on our flat roads, going into our concrete boxes, watching our screens.
01:10:59
Emmet
I mean, we're monkeys, like, you know, we're apes.
01:10:59
Daithi Flannery
I mean, we're monkeys. like You know, we're apes.
01:11:02
Emmet
were we're we're like You know what I mean?
01:11:02
Daithi Flannery
were we're we're like You know what I mean?
01:11:04
Emmet
We really are.
01:11:04
Daithi Flannery
We really are.
01:11:05
Emmet
We have language, but we really are.
01:11:05
Daithi Flannery
We have language, but we really are. like We're designed to to move over rough terrain at speed and often.
01:11:07
Emmet
Like, we're designed to to move over rough terrain at speed and often. You know, that we're meant to be moving and involved and engaged in the natural world.
01:11:14
Daithi Flannery
You know, that we're meant to be moving and involved and engaged in the natural world.
01:11:19
Emmet
Climate trees moving around on uneven ground.
01:11:19
Daithi Flannery
Climate trees moving around on uneven ground.
01:11:21
Daithi Flannery
And we've been there for an almost, almost all of our evolution.
01:11:21
Emmet
And we've been there for almost, almost all of our evolution.
01:11:25
Emmet
Yes.
01:11:25
Daithi Flannery
Yes.
01:11:25
Emmet
and Almost all of it.
01:11:25
Daithi Flannery
and Almost all of it.
01:11:26
Emmet
Yeah.
01:11:26
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:11:27
Emmet
But now we have designed a world that we're not designed for.
01:11:27
Daithi Flannery
But now we have designed a world that we're not designed for.
01:11:31
Emmet
We walk around the world with perfectly flat floors, with all corners and curbs and stairs, all the seats, and everything is made for us for our comfort.
01:11:31
Daithi Flannery
We walk around the world with perfectly flat floors, with all corners and curbs and stairs, all the seats, and everything is made for us for our comfort.
01:11:39
Emmet
Comfort.
01:11:39
Daithi Flannery
Comfort. You know?
01:11:40
Emmet
You know? Exactly.
01:11:40
Daithi Flannery
Exactly.
01:11:41
Emmet
Yeah.
01:11:41
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:11:41
Emmet
And it it' really, I think, no growth in your comforts on there's no growth in the comfort on on on here
01:11:41
Daithi Flannery
And it it it's really, I think, no growth in your comforts on there's no growth in the comfort on no no
01:11:48
Emmet
but
01:11:48
Daithi Flannery
but
01:11:50
Emmet
How does yoga reconnect us with nature?
01:11:50
Daithi Flannery
How does yoga reconnect us with nature?
01:11:53
Emmet
like Can the difficulty the the approach of sitting in difficult positions even?
01:11:54
Daithi Flannery
Can the approach of sitting in difficult positions even?
01:11:58
Emmet
Because sometimes I feel like there's the the fact that we don't have any real danger from nature anymore.
01:11:58
Daithi Flannery
Because sometimes I feel like the fact that we don't have any real danger from nature anymore, no climate change, we could have existential danger, but I'm saying in our everyday lives, we don't have to worry about something jumping out of a tree and hitting us.
01:12:03
Emmet
No climate change, we could have existential danger.
01:12:05
Daithi Flannery
No
01:12:05
Emmet
But I'm saying in our everyday lives, we don't have to worry about something jumping out of a tree and hitting us.
01:12:09
Daithi Flannery
growth in your comfort zone
01:12:10
Emmet
We don't have to really keep an eye on where we're going anymore.
01:12:10
Daithi Flannery
We don't have to really keep an eye on where we're going anymore.
01:12:13
Emmet
I mean, I can travel from here to Australia without taking my eyes off my phone.
01:12:13
Daithi Flannery
I mean, I can travel from here to Australia without taking my eyes off my phone, without even getting wet or cold.
01:12:17
Emmet
yeah without without even getting wet or cold. like that There's something wrong there.
01:12:20
Daithi Flannery
like that There's something wrong there.
01:12:22
Emmet
like were did like that That's a complete disconnect.
01:12:22
Daithi Flannery
like we did like that That's a complete disconnect.
01:12:25
Daithi Flannery
Massive disconnect.
01:12:25
Emmet
Massive disconnect.
01:12:26
Daithi Flannery
you know so Massive.
01:12:26
Emmet
you so Massive.
01:12:27
Daithi Flannery
That's why I love how you can swim in the ocean almost every day.
01:12:27
Emmet
That's why I love hiking.
01:12:28
Emmet
Swimming in the ocean and almost every day. Swimming in the ocean every day.
01:12:30
Daithi Flannery
So important. You swim in the ocean every day?
01:12:32
Emmet
and Most days, yeah.
01:12:32
Daithi Flannery
and Most days, yeah.
01:12:33
Emmet
Most days.
01:12:33
Daithi Flannery
Most days.
01:12:34
Emmet
Most days.
01:12:34
Daithi Flannery
Most days.
01:12:34
Emmet
And that's not an easy thing to do in like December.
01:12:34
Daithi Flannery
And that's not an easy thing to do in like December.
01:12:36
Emmet
and Cold water exposure.
01:12:36
Daithi Flannery
and Cold water exposure. yeah no it's lovely now still yeah it's cooling down but it's nice but you know when you go out there to Saltilla remember wherever you swim and jumping into that North Atlantic when it's when it's five six seven degrees but the you know it's painful man it's not easy it's painful the way you feel afterwards it's crazy it's great that's why you so many people are into it it's magic but genoa you know know
01:12:39
Emmet
yeah it's lovely now still it's cooling down but it's nice but you know when you go out there to Saltilla, Rembrandt or wherever you swim and jumping into that north atlantic when it's when it's five six seven degrees but you know it's not easy it's painful man it's not easy oh it's painful the way you feel afterwards it's it's great that's why so many people are into it it's magic but you know uh do you know when people go to war and they get a real brotherhood going because they've gone through something.
01:13:02
Daithi Flannery
when people go to war and they get a real brotherhood going because they've gone through something. I
01:13:08
Emmet
I
Nature, Brotherhood, and Interconnectedness
01:13:08
Daithi Flannery
feel like the friend groups we have when we're young, I feel like my friend group, we've had plenty of overlap in our friend group.
01:13:08
Emmet
feel like the friend groups, we have them, we're young. I feel like my friend group, we've had plenty of overlap in our friend group.
01:13:14
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely.
01:13:14
Emmet
Absolutely. I'd be loyal to them to the end of time because I don't have to agree with that though everything they say or anything like that, but but because we went through something when we were young, you know, we were all, but we were and we looked after each other or whatever, but
01:13:16
Daithi Flannery
I'd be loyal to them to the end of time because I don't have to agree with that though everything they say or anything like that, but because we went through something when we were young, you know, we were all what we were and we looked after each other or whatever, but
01:13:31
Daithi Flannery
It's because we went through something dangerous together.
01:13:31
Emmet
It's because we went through something dangerous together.
01:13:33
Emmet
It's because we had danger.
01:13:33
Daithi Flannery
It's because we had danger.
01:13:35
Emmet
Yeah. We don't have that connection with nature anymore.
01:13:36
Daithi Flannery
We don't have that connection with nature anymore.
01:13:39
Emmet
We don't have that brotherhood with nature anymore.
01:13:39
Daithi Flannery
We don't have that brotherhood with nature anymore. We're not going through that in dangerous with nature anymore.
01:13:41
Emmet
We haven't gone through that in dangerous with nature anymore. I feel like this is part of the disconnect.
01:13:43
Daithi Flannery
I feel like this is part of the disconnect, part of the cognitive and emotional disconnect is that we don't have a brotherhood.
01:13:46
Emmet
Part of the cognitive and emotional disconnect is that we don't have a brotherhood. We don't have a sense of kinship in nature anymore because we don't have that
01:13:50
Daithi Flannery
We don't have a sense of kinship with nature anymore because we don't have that
01:13:55
Emmet
interconnection with it.
01:13:55
Daithi Flannery
interconnection with it.
01:13:56
Emmet
I spent time in nature man as well not just swimming but hiking and I was up in Glendalock and Wicklow there a few weeks ago it's just a stunning place but I mean like I love going off watching the sunset I've done a good few sunrise hikes here in Ireland over the course of the last few years anytime I've been home you know I've done a sunrise hike in Crowpatrick
01:13:56
Daithi Flannery
I spend time in nature man as well not just swimming but hiking and I was up in Glendalock and Wicklow there a few weeks ago it's just a stunning place but I mean like I love going off watching the sunset I've done a good few sunrise hikes here in Ireland over the course of the last few years anytime I've been home you know I've done a sunrise hike in Crowpatrick
01:14:16
Emmet
another the one down and clearing that man to be up on a mountain on your own at six or seven o'clock in the morning looking at the sun coming up man it's something very very special about it.
01:14:16
Daithi Flannery
another the one down and clearing that man to be up on a mountain on your own at six or seven o'clock in the morning looking at the sun coming up man it's something very very special about it. I know another friend of ours that does the same thing but makes you realize too when you're looking out over like the sun coming up and I love the landscape and that in Ireland and sometimes even the weather where you can have like dark clouds and you have a blue sky over here.
01:14:29
Emmet
But makes you realize too when you're looking out over like the sun coming up and I love the landscape and that in Ireland and sometimes even the weather where you can have like dark clouds and you have a blue sky over here. yeah
01:14:38
Daithi Flannery
yeah
01:14:39
Emmet
and rays of the sun just like bursting through and you know dark clouds over here just a contrast in the colors yeah it's really beautiful sort of but nature rings just such a piece even like go back to Glendalaca I was up there I've done like a six day solitary kind of silent retreating up there yeah
01:14:39
Daithi Flannery
and rays of the sun just like bursting through and you know dark clouds over here just a contrast in the colors it's really beautiful sort of but nature rings just such a piece even like go back to Glendalaca I was up there I've done like a six day solitary kind of silent retreating up there yeah
01:14:58
Emmet
about a month ago, it was us four or five weeks ago, more or less anyway.
01:14:58
Daithi Flannery
about a month ago, as it was us four or five weeks ago, more or less anyway.
01:15:02
Emmet
But like, I remember a few evenings going down to Glendalock in the evening, during the week when it was nice and quiet, there was no tourists there and that.
01:15:02
Daithi Flannery
But like, I remember a few evenings going down to Glendalock in the evening, during the week when it was nice and quiet, there was no tourists there and that.
01:15:09
Emmet
And, uh, seven, eight o'clock in the evening, man, just sitting there for an hour, looking out on that lake.
01:15:09
Daithi Flannery
And, uh, seven, eight o'clock in the evening, man, just sitting there for an hour, looking out on that lake.
01:15:17
Emmet
And the lake was just like completely still.
01:15:17
Daithi Flannery
And the lake was just like completely still.
01:15:20
Emmet
Like, I mean, that just brings so much peace to your mind.
01:15:20
Daithi Flannery
Like, I mean, that just brings so much peace to your mind.
01:15:23
Emmet
yeah You know, just sitting there couldn't have been more content.
01:15:23
Daithi Flannery
yeah You know, just sitting there i couldn't have been more content.
01:15:27
Emmet
Is it better to meditate in nature than say in a room?
01:15:27
Daithi Flannery
Is it better to meditate in nature than say in a room? I don't, not necessarily.
01:15:31
Emmet
I don't, not necessarily. It's very nice to meditate in nature as well.
01:15:32
Daithi Flannery
It's very nice to meditate in nature as well.
01:15:35
Emmet
But like I mostly do it indoors, you know?
01:15:35
Daithi Flannery
But like I mostly do it indoors, you know?
01:15:37
Emmet
Yeah.
01:15:37
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:15:38
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:15:38
Emmet
Yeah.
01:15:38
Daithi Flannery
It's definitely beneficial for sure.
01:15:38
Emmet
It's definitely beneficial for sure.
01:15:40
Emmet
Yeah.
01:15:40
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:15:40
Emmet
Yeah.
01:15:40
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:15:41
Emmet
Absolutely.
01:15:41
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely. Is there anything about yoga practice?
01:15:42
Emmet
Is there anything about yoga practice? This is kind of where I was going.
01:15:44
Daithi Flannery
This is kind of where I was going.
01:15:45
Daithi Flannery
Is there anything about yoga practice that can... Reconnect us with nature.
01:15:45
Emmet
Is there anything about yoga practice get that can reconnect us with nature?
01:15:50
Emmet
Make us realize our our interdependence with nature again.
01:15:50
Daithi Flannery
Make us realize our interdependence with nature again.
01:15:53
Emmet
because like Absolutely.
01:15:53
Daithi Flannery
Because like... Absolutely.
01:15:54
Emmet
our breath Every breath we take is cause ah is because a tree breathes out.
01:15:55
Daithi Flannery
Every breath we take is because a tree breathes out like it.
01:15:58
Emmet
like You know what I mean?
01:15:58
Daithi Flannery
You know what I mean?
01:15:59
Emmet
That's yeah every breath we take.
01:15:59
Daithi Flannery
That's every breath we take.
01:16:01
Emmet
So we're constantly interdependent with nature, or even if we don't accept it on some level.
01:16:01
Daithi Flannery
So we're constantly interdependent with nature, even if we don't accept it on an ensemble level.
01:16:06
Daithi Flannery
But how does yoga help with that connection, that reconnection?
01:16:06
Emmet
But how does yoga help with that connection, that reconnection?
01:16:09
Daithi Flannery
I suppose the more you come into connection with who and what you are yourself, you start to realize that you're not really separate from it.
01:16:09
Emmet
I suppose the more you come into connection with who and what you are yourself, you start to realize that you're not really separate from us.
01:16:15
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:16:15
Emmet
Yeah.
01:16:15
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean?
01:16:15
Emmet
Do you know what I mean?
01:16:16
Emmet
Yeah.
01:16:16
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:16:17
Emmet
Yeah.
01:16:17
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:16:18
Daithi Flannery
yo You call it the supreme reality.
01:16:18
Emmet
yo you call it the supreme reality.
01:16:19
Emmet
I suppose Kundalini Shakti, which is like the creative force of the universe.
01:16:19
Daithi Flannery
I suppose Kundalini Shakti, which is like the creative force of the universe.
01:16:24
Emmet
In quantum physics, you could probably call it the unified energy field.
01:16:24
Daithi Flannery
In quantum physics, you could probably call it the unified energy field.
01:16:28
Emmet
You know, yeah there's something, every single thing in existence, especially living things, like something's driving them.
01:16:28
Daithi Flannery
You know, yeah there's something, every single thing in existence, especially living things, like something's driving them.
01:16:36
Emmet
Yeah.
01:16:36
Daithi Flannery
Yeah. There's an energy.
01:16:37
Emmet
There's an energy. They're alive because of an energy, something that's permeating through them.
01:16:38
Daithi Flannery
They're alive because of an energy, something that's permeating through them.
01:16:42
Emmet
They all have an essence, which comes from a source, you know which is not separate from the same energy that's permeating our body.
01:16:42
Daithi Flannery
They all have an essence, which comes from a source, you know which is not separate from the same energy that's permeating our body.
01:16:50
Daithi Flannery
Something that's driving us.
01:16:50
Emmet
Something that's driving us.
01:16:51
Daithi Flannery
The same thing that makes you and me grow and makes a fucking tree grow.
01:16:51
Emmet
The same thing that makes you and me grow and makes a fucking tree grow.
01:16:55
Emmet
It makes a bird, a dog, an animal.
01:16:55
Daithi Flannery
It makes a bird, a dog, an animal.
01:16:58
Daithi Flannery
It's the same.
01:16:58
Emmet
It's the same.
01:17:00
Emmet
Science still doesn't have a lot of explanations for that.
01:17:00
Daithi Flannery
Science still doesn't have a lot of explanations for that.
01:17:02
Emmet
And I'm glad you brought up quantum physics, because that is,
01:17:02
Daithi Flannery
And I'm glad you brought up quantum physics, because that is,
01:17:05
Emmet
kind of bring us full circle in many ways.
01:17:05
Daithi Flannery
kind of bring us full circle in many ways.
01:17:07
Emmet
I mean, our environmental science is doing it as well.
01:17:07
Daithi Flannery
I mean, our environmental science is doing it as well.
01:17:11
Emmet
Yeah.
01:17:11
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:17:12
Emmet
Our environmental science is like we had the enlightenment we have our cool look what we can do if we just say we own everything and start using it for our own good and and kind of take moral out of it and just our land we can do it we like to it and just use it for our own instructions of what we want.
01:17:12
Daithi Flannery
Our environmental science is like we had the enlightenment we have our cool look what we can do if we just say we own everything and start using it for our own good and and kind of take moral out of it and just all land we can do it we like to it and just use it for our own instructions of what we want.
01:17:30
Emmet
And we had everything separated nicely.
01:17:30
Daithi Flannery
And we had everything separated nicely.
01:17:33
Emmet
And now our environmental sciences have come around to this kind of, oh, hang on, everything's interrelated.
01:17:33
Daithi Flannery
And now our environmental sciences have come around to this kind of, oh, hang on, everything's interrelated.
01:17:39
Emmet
Of course, this has been this way for a long time.
01:17:39
Daithi Flannery
Of course, this has been this way for a long time.
01:17:42
Daithi Flannery
Everything's interrelated.
01:17:42
Emmet
Everything's interrelated.
01:17:42
Daithi Flannery
If we mess up one thing, we mess up everything possibly.
01:17:42
Emmet
If we mess up one thing, we mess up everything possibly.
01:17:45
Emmet
Yes, it's all a big ecosystem.
01:17:45
Daithi Flannery
Yes, it's all a big ecosystem.
01:17:47
Emmet
It's all a big ecosystem.
01:17:47
Daithi Flannery
It's all a big ecosystem.
01:17:48
Emmet
It's perfectly sustainable.
01:17:48
Daithi Flannery
It's perfectly sustainable.
01:17:49
Emmet
Yeah.
01:17:49
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:17:50
Daithi Flannery
Perfectly, you know, the whole planet Earth.
01:17:50
Emmet
Perfectly, you know, the whole planet Earth.
01:17:52
Emmet
Yeah.
01:17:52
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:17:52
Emmet
It's one big ecosystem.
01:17:53
Daithi Flannery
It's one big ecosystem.
01:17:54
Emmet
Now we go into quantum physics and that's coming around to the, oh, hang on.
01:17:54
Daithi Flannery
Now we go into quantum physics and that's coming around to the oh, hang on, we have like quantum entanglement, we have a lot of weird stuff going on down here that okay, guys, I think we might all be entangled and interrelated and interdependent and but we're not that's not reaching our lived reality.
01:17:58
Emmet
We have like quantum entanglement. We have a lot of weird stuff going on down here that, uh, okay, guys, I think we might all be entangled and interrelated and interdependent and, uh, but we're not, that's not reaching our lived reality.
01:18:13
Emmet
That them kind of, uh,
01:18:13
Daithi Flannery
That them kind of
01:18:15
Emmet
that the scientific explanations of quantum physics are not reaching our lived reality.
01:18:15
Daithi Flannery
that the scientific explanations of quantum physics are not reaching our lived reality.
01:18:21
Emmet
We're still living in this very separated, individualized reality.
01:18:21
Daithi Flannery
We're still living in this very separated, individualized reality.
01:18:25
Emmet
Really forgotten who and what we are.
01:18:25
Daithi Flannery
Really forgotten who and what we are.
01:18:27
Emmet
More than any other civilization ever previously, I'd say.
01:18:27
Daithi Flannery
More than any other civilization ever previously, I'd say. Yeah, it is.
01:18:30
Emmet
Yeah, it is. You don't even go back to like shamanism, things like that.
01:18:31
Daithi Flannery
You don't even go back to like shamanism, things like that.
01:18:33
Emmet
They're very Celtic spirituality here in our own in our own land.
01:18:33
Daithi Flannery
They're very Celtic spirituality here in our own in our own land.
01:18:37
Emmet
yeah You know, like the early Christians in Ireland, I think I recommended, I mentioned the book to you the last time,
01:18:37
Daithi Flannery
yeah You know, like the early Christians in Ireland, I think I recommended, I mentioned the book to you the last time, Adam Carla, John O'Donohoe.
01:18:43
Emmet
Adam Carla. John O'Donohoe. It's an amazing book about Catholic spirituality.
01:18:46
Daithi Flannery
It's an amazing book about cat expertuality.
01:18:48
Emmet
You know like even like before Christianity they said like
01:18:48
Daithi Flannery
You know, like even like before Christianity, they said like,
01:18:53
Emmet
In Ireland, there were pagans, you know, this is what they say.
01:18:53
Daithi Flannery
In Ireland there were pagans, you know, this is what they say, St.
01:18:56
Emmet
St.
01:18:56
Daithi Flannery
Patrick.
01:18:56
Emmet
Patrick. Yeah.
01:18:57
Daithi Flannery
Yeah. Read Ireland of all the snakes, you know, it's a metaphor.
01:18:58
Emmet
Read Ireland of all the snakes. You know, it's a metaphor. The snakes were the non-believers.
01:19:00
Daithi Flannery
The snakes were the non-believers.
01:19:01
Emmet
Yeah.
01:19:01
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:19:02
Daithi Flannery
Or the pagans, they didn't believe in God, but believe in what God?
01:19:02
Emmet
Or the pagans.
01:19:03
Emmet
They didn't believe in God, but believe in what God? God according to who?
01:19:06
Daithi Flannery
God according to who?
01:19:06
Emmet
The Roman Catholic Church.
01:19:07
Daithi Flannery
The Roman Catholic Church.
01:19:08
Emmet
They were very, very connected, especially to the land.
01:19:08
Daithi Flannery
They were very, very connected, especially to the land.
01:19:12
Emmet
They're seeing the divinity in everything.
01:19:12
Daithi Flannery
They're seeing the divinity in everything.
01:19:13
Daithi Flannery
Celtic spirituality is is is beautiful.
01:19:13
Emmet
Celtic spirituality is is beautiful.
01:19:15
Daithi Flannery
that's That's an amazing book.
01:19:15
Emmet
that's That's an amazing book.
01:19:17
Daithi Flannery
I highly recommend it.
01:19:17
Emmet
I highly recommend it.
01:19:18
Emmet
And Cara, I miss, sole friend in Irish.
01:19:18
Daithi Flannery
And Cara, I miss, sole friend in Irish.
01:19:21
Emmet
but uh the way this guy writes as well it is i highly recommend that anybody that's listening as well it's it's a really really good book about Catholic spirituality and it's all about like nature as well there's so much about nature and he speaks a lot about solitude as well yeah but there's something about Christianity came right Christianity gave us a God that's not of dessert yes separate separate from dessert in some other place controlling things and also
01:19:21
Daithi Flannery
but uh the way this guy writes as well it is i highly recommend that anybody that's listening as well it's ah it's a really really good book about Catholic spirituality and it's all about like nature as well there's so much about nature and he speaks a lot about solitude as well yeah but there's something about Christianity came right Christianity gave us a God that's not of dessert yes separate separate from dessert in some other place controlling things and also
01:19:51
Emmet
Don't care about this life.
01:19:51
Daithi Flannery
Don't care about this life.
01:19:51
Daithi Flannery
You care about your next life, which is also not on this earth.
01:19:51
Emmet
You care about your next life, which is also not on this earth.
01:19:55
Emmet
It's in some other heavenly place.
01:19:55
Daithi Flannery
It's in some other heavenly place.
01:19:58
Emmet
The pagans were all about this earth.
01:19:58
Daithi Flannery
The pagans were all about this earth. You know, they were all about the the plants and the and the the earth itself.
01:20:01
Emmet
There were all about the the plants and the and the the earth itself. And guess what?
01:20:06
Daithi Flannery
And guess what?
01:20:08
Emmet
That's where the devil lives.
01:20:08
Daithi Flannery
That's where the devil lives.
01:20:09
Daithi Flannery
For Christians, the devil is the in the earth.
01:20:09
Emmet
For Christians, the devil is the in the earth.
01:20:15
Emmet
You know, it's ah it's
01:20:15
Daithi Flannery
You know, it's it's
Non-Duality and Transformation in Yoga
01:20:16
Emmet
a very, I think, an important fact thing that Christianity has done to the world is that it's made earthly things kind of evil.
01:20:16
Daithi Flannery
a very, I think, an important fact thing that Christianity has done to the world is that it's made earthly things kind of evil.
01:20:24
Emmet
yeah there Creating devil.
01:20:24
Daithi Flannery
and there but Creating devil.
01:20:25
Emmet
Yeah, creating the devil.
01:20:25
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, creating the devil. Looking about yoga and non-duality is like, yoga teaches like that.
01:20:27
Emmet
Looking about yoga and non-duality is like, yoga teaches like that. like Everything comes from the same source, the good and the bad, good and evil.
01:20:32
Daithi Flannery
like Everything comes from the same source, the good and the bad, good and evil.
01:20:37
Emmet
You know, there's always been good but and evil, you know.
01:20:37
Daithi Flannery
You know, there's always been good and evil, you know.
01:20:41
Emmet
And they're such flip sides of the same coin kind of thing.
01:20:41
Daithi Flannery
And they're such flip sides of the same coin kind of thing. that they' not yeah too They're not even indistinguishable, really.
01:20:44
Emmet
that they' not yeah du They're not even indistinguishable, really. just Exactly.
01:20:47
Daithi Flannery
just Exactly.
01:20:47
Emmet
it's wonderful understand Exactly.
01:20:47
Daithi Flannery
its wonderful understand Exactly.
01:20:49
Daithi Flannery
You know, you're always all about non-duality, which means you're not separate from the source, you know?
01:20:49
Emmet
You know, you're always all about non-duality, which means you're not separate from the source, you know?
01:20:52
Emmet
Yeah.
01:20:52
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:20:53
Daithi Flannery
There's all sorts of like entities and energies out there in the metaphysical world and the spirit world or whatever you want to call it, you know, going to shamanism, like you learn about all that stuff.
01:20:53
Emmet
There's all sorts of like entities and energies out there in the metaphysical world and the spirit world or whatever you want to call it, you know, going to shamanism, like you learn about all that stuff.
01:21:02
Emmet
Yeah.
01:21:02
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:21:02
Daithi Flannery
Do you know?
01:21:02
Emmet
Do you know?
01:21:03
Emmet
And I suppose ever even here in our in our own country, ancient Ireland, like it's deep in our culture as well, like Celtic shamanism as well.
01:21:03
Daithi Flannery
And I suppose ever even here in our in our own country, ancient Ireland, like it's deep in our culture as well, like Celtic shamanism as well.
01:21:11
Daithi Flannery
spirits and banshees and fairies and all of that stuff as well.
01:21:11
Emmet
spirits and banshees and fairies and all of that stuff as well.
01:21:15
Emmet
There's a lot of stuff going on out there beyond what we can perceive with our five senses.
01:21:15
Daithi Flannery
There's a lot of stuff going on out there beyond what we can perceive with our five senses. We're very limited with our five senses.
01:21:25
Emmet
We're very limited with our five senses.
01:21:28
Daithi Flannery
yeah so on But we really don't think we are.
01:21:29
Emmet
But we really don't think we are.
01:21:31
Daithi Flannery
no how We have that certainty.
01:21:31
Emmet
We have that certainty. We're still a bunch of apes.
01:21:33
Daithi Flannery
We're still a bunch of apes.
01:21:36
Daithi Flannery
Again, just look at what's going on in the world.
01:21:36
Emmet
Again, just look at what's going on in the world.
01:21:37
Daithi Flannery
you know yeah i feel i feel I feel we're going through a big transformation.
01:21:38
Emmet
Yeah. i feel i feel I feel we're going through a big transformation.
01:21:42
Daithi Flannery
you know think experience we Spiritual awakening.
01:21:43
Emmet
I think we are too.
01:21:44
Daithi Flannery
you know um I think so.
01:21:45
Emmet
I think so. It's necessary.
01:21:46
Daithi Flannery
It's necessary.
01:21:47
Emmet
It's absolutely necessary.
01:21:47
Daithi Flannery
It's absolute otherwise our thought that's absolutely And we are fucked.
01:21:47
Emmet
Otherwise, or sorry that's absolutely and and that we are fucked.
01:21:51
Daithi Flannery
But it' it's going to take bravery, man.
01:21:51
Emmet
It's going to take bravery, man.
01:21:53
Daithi Flannery
And i think I think there's a certain bravery to to what you've done here.
01:21:53
Emmet
And I think i think there's a certain bravery to to what you've done here.
01:21:56
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean?
01:21:56
Emmet
Do you know what I mean? Because there is a certain bravery to kind of um
01:21:57
Daithi Flannery
Because there is a certain bravery to kind of... to having the bravery to change.
01:22:02
Emmet
to having the bravery to change to see you know what I'm not happy I'm actually gonna make that fucking change whatever it is not sure but I'm gonna change something and I'm really delighted that you found something you found your correct right path you know I assume in responsibility and owning your own shit you know It's a great quote by Rumi.
01:22:04
Daithi Flannery
To say, you know what? I'm not happy. I'm actually going to make that fucking change. Whatever it is, not sure, but I'm going to change something. And I'm really delighted that you found something. Do you know what I mean?
01:22:15
Daithi Flannery
You found your correct right path. It was about assuming responsibility and owning your own shit, you know? Owning your own shit. It's a great quote by Rumi.
01:22:23
Emmet
You've ever heard of Rumi?
01:22:23
Daithi Flannery
You've ever heard of Rumi? He's so, so repot.
01:22:24
Emmet
It's so, so repot. You know, yesterday I was smart.
01:22:25
Daithi Flannery
You know, yesterday I was smart.
01:22:27
Daithi Flannery
I was trying to change the world. Today I'm wise.
01:22:27
Emmet
I was trying to change the word.
01:22:28
Emmet
Today I'm wise. I'm trying to change myself.
01:22:29
Daithi Flannery
I'm trying to change myself.
01:22:31
Emmet
It's the only thing you have the power to control is yourself and your own internist set.
01:22:31
Daithi Flannery
It's the only thing you have the power to control is yourself and your own internist set.
01:22:35
Emmet
You know?
01:22:35
Daithi Flannery
You know?
01:22:36
Daithi Flannery
It's lovely.
01:22:36
Emmet
It's lovely.
01:22:37
Emmet
It's not Rumi now.
01:22:37
Daithi Flannery
It's not Rumi now.
01:22:38
Emmet
I don't know where this came from, but it's when I was young, I thought everybody was talking about me and thinking about me, you know, doing as I got older.
01:22:38
Daithi Flannery
I don't know where this came from, but when I was young, I thought everybody was talking about me and thinking about me, you know? Doing as I got older.
01:22:52
Daithi Flannery
I was like, I don't care what people think about me.
01:22:52
Emmet
I was like, I don't care what people think about me.
01:22:54
Emmet
Fuck, I don't care what people think about me.
01:22:54
Daithi Flannery
Fuck, I don't care what people think about me. Then I got kind of well old.
01:22:56
Emmet
Then I got kind of well old. And I realized nobody was thinking about me.
01:22:59
Daithi Flannery
And I realized nobody was thinking about me.
01:23:01
Emmet
I heard that before.
01:23:01
Daithi Flannery
I heard that before, and it's fucking true, isn't it?
01:23:03
Emmet
And it's fucking true, isn't it? It's a very true thing.
01:23:04
Daithi Flannery
It's a very true thing.
01:23:05
Emmet
and i i realized that like Everybody who's in that kind of mindset is thinking about themselves and thinking about what everybody else thinks about them.
01:23:05
Daithi Flannery
and i think realized that like Everybody who's in that kind of mindset is thinking about themselves and thinking about what everybody else thinks about them.
01:23:13
Emmet
So you don't really have to worry about that.
01:23:13
Daithi Flannery
So you don't really have to worry about that.
01:23:15
Emmet
People in the room don't care about you.
01:23:15
Daithi Flannery
People in the room don't care about you.
01:23:18
Emmet
We're not the center of the universe.
01:23:18
Daithi Flannery
We're not the center of the universe.
01:23:19
Emmet
We are, but yet we aren't.
01:23:19
Daithi Flannery
We are, but yet we aren't.
01:23:20
Emmet
Yeah, exactly.
01:23:20
Daithi Flannery
Yeah, exactly.
01:23:21
Daithi Flannery
Exactly.
01:23:21
Emmet
Exactly.
Starting the Yoga Journey
01:23:22
Emmet
um Okay, for for people who might be interested in yoga locally, or wherever, what's their first?
01:23:22
Daithi Flannery
um Okay, for for people who might be interested in yoga locally, or wherever, what's their first?
01:23:31
Emmet
If someone listens to this, and they're like, you know, what fuck this, I'm gonna try that meditation stuff.
01:23:31
Daithi Flannery
If someone listens to this, and they're like, you know, fuck this, I'm gonna try that meditation stuff.
01:23:34
Daithi Flannery
for i going trying What's the first protocol?
01:23:34
Emmet
for i going trying What's the first protocol?
01:23:36
Emmet
Do they go back to the room and try it themselves?
01:23:36
Daithi Flannery
Do they go back to the room and try it themselves?
01:23:39
Daithi Flannery
I mean, I suppose.
01:23:39
Emmet
I mean, I suppose.
01:23:40
Emmet
Yeah.
01:23:40
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:23:41
Daithi Flannery
I mean, I'm not on social media or any of that, but check out what's going on around in your local area and stuff like that.
01:23:41
Emmet
I mean, I'm not on social media or any of that, but check out what's going on around in your local area and stuff like that.
01:23:47
Emmet
You know, number one, first and foremost, I'd highly recommend anybody to do a silent meditation retreat at some stage of their lives.
01:23:47
Daithi Flannery
You know, number one, first and foremost, I'd highly recommend anybody to do a silent meditation retreat at some stage of their lives. Okay.
01:23:56
Emmet
Okay.
01:23:56
Daithi Flannery
on And would that, would that be a, would you recommend that as a first introduction to yoga?
01:23:57
Emmet
And would that, would that be a, would you recommend that as a first introduction to yoga? I mean, why not?
01:24:02
Daithi Flannery
I mean, why not if you're fed up to it, why not?
01:24:03
Emmet
If you're fed up to it, why not? Why not?
01:24:05
Daithi Flannery
Why not? If you need that fucking that, if you really need that change, like we said, we're talking about people struggling.
01:24:05
Emmet
If you need that fucking, that, if you really need that change, like we said, we're talking about people struggling. If you really need that Jesus, I really need something, I really unhappy, I don't, I'm not, I really need something to change my life.
01:24:12
Daithi Flannery
If you really need that Jesus, I really need something, I really unhappy, I don't, i'm not that I really need something to change my life.
01:24:17
Emmet
Take the three days, go and try and do it.
01:24:17
Daithi Flannery
Take the three days, go and try and do it.
01:24:19
Emmet
See how you go.
01:24:19
Daithi Flannery
See how you go.
01:24:20
Emmet
yeah maybe yeah yeah yeah spend time in nature as well you know nature's magic jumping in that cold ocean is magic i'm telling you i've often done it on a day when i've been very stressed out and you don't get out of that sea and your stress is gone man it's been washed away so i'm gonna have to get back into Jesus you feel bad whatever time i'm not done
01:24:20
Daithi Flannery
yeah maybe yeah yeah yeah spend time in nature as well you know nature is magic jumping in that cold ocean is magic i'm telling you i've often done it on a day when i've been very stressed out and you don't get out of that sea and your stress is gone man it's been washed away so i'm gonna have to get back into Jesus you feel bad whatever then i'm not done
01:24:41
Emmet
Go take a yoga class.
01:24:41
Daithi Flannery
Go take a yoga class.
01:24:43
Emmet
Find yoga anywhere now in your local area.
01:24:43
Daithi Flannery
Find yoga anywhere now in your local area. And there's many different styles.
01:24:46
Emmet
And there's many different styles. Like I said a while ago, I think they're all good.
01:24:47
Daithi Flannery
Like I said a while ago, I think they're all good. They're all going to be good for you.
01:24:50
Emmet
They're all going to be good for you. Any class you go into where you can switch off for an hour, an hour and a half, and just stretch and breathe, it's going to be good for you.
01:24:51
Daithi Flannery
Any class you go into where you can switch off for an hour, an hour and a half, and just stretch and breathe, it's going to be good for you.
01:25:00
Emmet
You're going to feel better after it.
01:25:00
Daithi Flannery
You're going to feel better after it. Go to some classes.
01:25:03
Emmet
Go to some classes.
01:25:05
Daithi Flannery
Do a bit of research on the internet.
01:25:05
Emmet
Do a little research on the internet. yeah so get a book actually get a book get a book on yoga read it and read it yeah educate yourself and practice so as you put it into practice i have a couple questions i ask everybody who comes on the podcast um one is is there one epiphany that you come point to that's changed your mind more than anything else that you can't that you can't uh see the world the same you can't be the same anymore as the one epiphany that you've had that's changed your mind that much
01:25:08
Daithi Flannery
yeah so get a book actually get a book get a book on yoga read it and read it yeah educate yourself and practice so did you put it into practice i have a couple questions i ask everybody who comes on the podcast um one is is there one epiphany that you come point to that's changed your mind more than anything else that you can't that you can't uh see the world the same you can't be the same anymore as the one epiphany that you've had that's changed your mind that much
01:25:39
Emmet
an epiphany let me think now moment realization nothing jumping out at me what's the question again is the one epiphany i've had that has changed you more than any other who you've said oh i can't
01:25:39
Daithi Flannery
an epiphany let me think now moment realization nothing jumping out at me what's the question again is the one epiphany i've had that has changed you more than any other who you've said oh i can't
01:25:53
Emmet
I can't go back from that now.
01:25:53
Daithi Flannery
I can't go back from that now.
01:25:55
Emmet
Do you know what I mean?
01:25:55
Daithi Flannery
Do you know what I mean?
01:25:55
Emmet
Now I know this, or now I realize this.
01:25:55
Daithi Flannery
Now I know this, or now I realize this.
01:25:57
Emmet
Absolutely.
01:25:57
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely.
01:25:58
Emmet
yeah I know yeah know that you say more, yeah, man.
01:25:59
Daithi Flannery
I know that you say more, yeah, man.
01:26:01
Emmet
Once I started yoga, it's funny, a good friend of mine at the school in Mexico, Rosa, she's from Gran Canaria, and andcanary yeah we always used to be laughing.
01:26:01
Daithi Flannery
Once I started yoga, it's funny, a good friend of mine at the school in Mexico, Rosa, she's from Gran Canaria, and and canary yeah we always used to be laughing.
01:26:08
Emmet
We used to be working in the kitchen, and we'd always be talking about this, and we'd say, we can't go back now, Rosa, until we've taken the red a pill, you know, talking about the fill in the matrix.
01:26:08
Daithi Flannery
We used to be working in the kitchen, and we'd always be talking about this, and we'd say, we can't go back now, Rosa, until we've taken the red a pill, you know, talking about the fill in the mattress.
01:26:16
Emmet
You know, want you once you know, you know, yeah, you can't go back, you know.
01:26:16
Daithi Flannery
You know, want you once you know, you know, yeah, you can't go back, you know. so this path towards self-discovery is it basically more or less yeah yeah yeah once you got once you got in this path and it was challenging in the beginning doing all these retreats and stuff like that and even the first year i was in mexico you know spending a bit of time on'm me on my own and at times i got lonely i have to be honest yeah you know but i had many many moments along the way especially in the first first year or two where like
01:26:19
Emmet
So this path towards self-discovery, is it basically? More or less, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Once you got, once you got in this path and it was challenging in the beginning doing all these retreats and stuff like that. And even the first year I was in Mexico, you know, spending a little bit of time on'm me on my own and at times I got lonely. I have to be honest, yeah you know, but I had many, many moments along the way, especially in the first, first year or two where like,
01:26:44
Emmet
Yeah.
01:26:44
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:26:45
Daithi Flannery
The tendency, the inclination, I was definitely thinking at times, like, you know, kind of wanted to go back to the old life.
01:26:45
Emmet
The tendency, the inclination, I was definitely thinking at times, like, you know, kind of wanted to go back to the old life.
01:26:52
Emmet
Yeah.
01:26:52
Daithi Flannery
Yeah.
01:26:53
Emmet
That was a bit of a, like, place of conflict, really.
01:26:53
Daithi Flannery
That was a bit of a, like, place of conflict, really.
01:26:56
Emmet
Cause it's like, you're thinking you want to go back, but then there's another party you're saying, like, there's no going back, man.
01:26:56
Daithi Flannery
Cause it's like, you're thinking you want to go back, but then there's another party you're saying, like, there's no going back, man.
01:27:03
Emmet
There's no going back.
01:27:03
Daithi Flannery
There's no going back.
01:27:04
Emmet
It's only one way.
01:27:04
Daithi Flannery
It's only one way.
01:27:04
Daithi Flannery
Keep moving forward.
01:27:04
Emmet
Keep moving forward.
01:27:06
Emmet
and i Keep moving forward.
01:27:06
Daithi Flannery
and i Keep moving forward. There's no other way.
01:27:08
Emmet
There's no other way. Okay.
01:27:09
Daithi Flannery
Okay.
01:27:10
Daithi Flannery
Another question.
01:27:10
Emmet
Another question.
01:27:11
Daithi Flannery
If, uh,
01:27:11
Emmet
If, uh,
01:27:13
Emmet
Let's say we're writing a new story of what it is to be human.
01:27:13
Daithi Flannery
Let's say we're writing a new story of what it is to be human.
01:27:17
Daithi Flannery
Because the one we have seems to be a bit, oh, I'm not sure it's working out well.
01:27:17
Emmet
Because the one we have seems to be a bit, oh, I'm not sure it's working out well.
01:27:22
Emmet
So so there we're yeah to say at least were risk we writing a new story of what it is to to be human in relation to nature and everything.
01:27:22
Daithi Flannery
So so there we're yeah to say at least were risk writing a new story of what it is to to be human in relation to nature and everything.
01:27:32
Emmet
You can put one sentence in that book.
01:27:32
Daithi Flannery
You can put one sentence in that book.
01:27:34
Daithi Flannery
What's that sentence?
01:27:34
Emmet
What's that sentence?
01:27:36
Emmet
practice yoga okay that'll do that'll do practice yoga and meditation yeah sit with yourself sit with yourself sit with yourself man okay we leave that as the final answer final answer sit with yourself okay no i like that but sit with yourself it's a good one it's a good one uh emma i really appreciate you coming on here bro i'm very happy and excited about the journey that you found that you're on
01:27:36
Daithi Flannery
practice yoga okay that'll do that'll do practice yoga and meditation yeah sit with yourself sit with yourself sit with yourself man okay we leave that as the final answer final answer sit sit with yourself okay no i like that but sit with yourself it's a good one it's a good one uh emma i really appreciate you coming on here bro i'm very happy and excited about the journey that you found that you're on
01:28:06
Daithi Flannery
and hopefully you'll definitely come back and we can do this again and people will be closer to enlightenment and hopefully I'll be able to say man I've been doing it really well this time I've been in the sea and all that because right now I'm not but I'll get there yeah hope i I hope I was able to answer your questions clearly and understandably no it was friday isn't and it was a very good chat I really enjoyed it and as I said we were pointing to how little
01:28:06
Emmet
and hopefully you'll definitely come back and we can do this again and people will be closer to enlightenment and hopefully I'll be able to say man I've been doing it really well this time I've been in the sea and all that because right now I'm not but I'll get there yeah my whole i I hope I was able to answer your questions clearly and understandably no was sorry isn't it and it was a very good chat I really enjoyed it and as I said we were pointing to how little
01:28:31
Emmet
how little words can really describe things sometimes that it has to be about experience.
01:28:31
Daithi Flannery
how little words can really describe things sometimes that it has to be about experience. Absolutely.
01:28:37
Emmet
So I hope we've just kind of let people reflect if we can.
01:28:37
Daithi Flannery
So I hope we've just kind of let people reflect if we can, that's always what I want out of this podcast.
01:28:41
Emmet
That's always what I want out of this podcast. If I can help people reflect on things and then maybe shift them a little bit towards something that's better for them, better for society, better for nature and happy days.
01:28:43
Daithi Flannery
If I can help people reflect on things and then, and then maybe shift them a little bit towards something that's better for them, better for society, better for nature and happy days. Absolutely.
01:28:54
Daithi Flannery
Whatever.
01:28:54
Emmet
m Just one more thing not to say there, but yeah, words and direct experience.
01:28:55
Daithi Flannery
Just one more thing not to say there, but yeah, words and direct experience.
01:28:57
Emmet
I suppose what the beautiful thing about having and direct experience of things is that when you have that direct experience, then you can convey it very powerfully in words.
01:28:57
Daithi Flannery
I suppose what the beautiful thing about having and direct experience of things is that when you have that direct experience, then you can convey it very powerfully in words.
01:29:07
Daithi Flannery
Okay. You know, you know, you've had the experience, then you can, and you then you can use words to explain it.
01:29:07
Emmet
Okay.
01:29:09
Emmet
You know, you know, you've had the experience, then you can, and you then you can use words to explain it.
01:29:15
Daithi Flannery
Okay and even though I want to explain it fully, you still I guess have the right.
01:29:15
Emmet
Okay, and even though I want to explain it fully, you still, I guess, have the right. Still can be very powerful.
01:29:19
Daithi Flannery
Still can be very powerful.
01:29:20
Emmet
I just know from listening to very senior teachers lecturing at the school and in in in Mexico and France, um and they've just continued to inspire me.
01:29:20
Daithi Flannery
I just know from listening to very senior teachers lecturing at the school and in in in Mexico and France and man they've just continued to inspire me. And is that because there's more than the words behind what they're saying?
01:29:29
Emmet
And is that because there's more than the words behind what they're saying? Absolutely. As if they're saying it with a confidence and and and then a notice that you can feel after.
01:29:33
Daithi Flannery
Absolutely. As if they're saying it with a confidence and and and then a notice that you can feel after. 100% it's a transmission.
01:29:38
Emmet
100% it's a transmission you know it's a transmission they know what they're talking about they know what they're talking about yeah you know and yeah it's when you hear it it's just something in you recognizes it and it's just like yeah you'd often have these like wow moments especially when they're answering questions
01:29:41
Daithi Flannery
It's a transmission. They know what they're talking about. They know what they're talking about. yeah you know And yeah, it's when you hear it, it's just something and you recognize it. And it's just like, yeah, you'd often have these like wow moments, especially when they're answering questions.
01:29:54
Emmet
That's how I always know the very, very senior teachers at the school that have been practicing yoga meditation for years, even decades.
01:29:54
Daithi Flannery
That's how I always know the very, very senior teachers at the school that have been practicing yoga meditation for years, even decades.
01:30:03
Emmet
It's just their ability to answer questions.
01:30:03
Daithi Flannery
It's just their ability to answer questions.
01:30:05
Emmet
And I've done like many lectures and things like that myself when I was doing the teacher training and stuff.
01:30:05
Daithi Flannery
And I've done like many lectures and things like that myself when I was doing the teacher training and stuff.
01:30:09
Emmet
and
01:30:09
Daithi Flannery
and
01:30:10
Emmet
That's a difficult thing to do as a teacher is to sit up there and give a lecture on yogic philosophy and practice and to answer questions from students.
01:30:10
Daithi Flannery
that's a difficult thing to do as a teacher is to sit up there and give a lecture on yogic philosophy and practice and to answer questions from students and you just can see the experience in very senior teachers in the answers to give to the questions sometimes they'll answer a question and you're just like whoa you know it's just this deep shit
01:30:18
Emmet
And you just can see the experience in very senior teachers in the answers to give to the questions. Sometimes they'll answer a question and you're just like, whoa, you know, it's just a steep shit.
01:30:30
Daithi Flannery
deep shit hey steve yeah
01:30:31
Emmet
It's deep shit you
01:30:33
Daithi Flannery
and i don okay
01:30:34
Emmet
Okay, and that's a lovely way to end it actually.
01:30:35
Daithi Flannery
and that ah that that's a lovely way to end it actually thanks for that Emmett yeah yeah no we we'll do it again absolutely absolutely and thanks for coming on here and talking about some deep shit
01:30:38
Emmet
Thanks for that, Edward. Yeah, yeah, we'll do it again. Absolutely, absolutely. And thanks for coming out here and talking about some deep shares. and
01:30:46
Daithi Flannery
and
01:30:49
Emmet
ah and