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Used EV's: What to look for - Toms Mach-E is Here!
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Welcome to the Plug In For More podcast! Mike, Tom, and Bryant are here to help you on your journey to an Electric vehicle future. Each episode we discuss current events, trends, and a specific topic of education related to EV's. We bring together a diverse experience set, and pair it with guests who are experts in the field. For even more information on EV's, check out www.EVUniverse.com.
In this episode the guys delve into what to look for in buying a used electric vehicle. It might surprise you to hear how the measures of wear and tear look different on an EV versus and ICE vehicle.
Also, this episode marks an end to Tom whining about waiting for his Mach-E... IT IS HERE!
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Introduction to Buying Used EVs
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome back to the plugin for more podcast. Today's episode, we're going to talk about used electric vehicles and specifically what to look for if you're going to be buying one as the market transition from being all new electric vehicles into having a plethora of used vehicles coming out and being available to buy. It's important to know what to look for because some of the lessons of buying an ICE vehicle don't exactly translate to an electric vehicle.
00:00:23
Speaker
Also, my Mach-E came in. I'm really excited to talk about that. Welcome to Plug In For More, brought to you by EVUniverse.com. EVUniverse is your one-stop shop for all things related to the electric vehicle. Here on this podcast, our goal is to educate, inspire, and hopefully make your transition into the electric vehicle marketplace a lot less intimidating. And now, here are your hosts, Mike, Tom, and Bryant.
Tom's Ford Mach-E Experience
00:00:53
Speaker
Tom Ford Machi is now in your driveway. Question. Did your dad get his before you did? I'm hoping the answer is yes. No, no, he didn't. In fact, I was able to pull some strings and ensure that that didn't happen.
00:01:08
Speaker
Um, you know, it's funny. We, in the last episode, we talked about the frustrations with not knowing where your vehicle is. Right. Um, while it's being shipped and somehow magically these car dealerships or car companies will ship these cars across the country and they have no idea where they're at exactly. Um, I had figured out a way to communicate through Ford via their chat feature and they would tell me where it was based upon what information they had.
00:01:39
Speaker
Late last week, I had communicated with Ford and they told me that it was on a rail yard in Missouri, which is a standard hub for Ford vehicles and where they're going to be transferred to the next location.
00:01:51
Speaker
Um, about four hours after Ford's chat had told me that it was in fact, in Missouri, I drove past my dealership and I saw a gray Maki sitting next to a red Maki, which is what my dad ordered. And I'm like, Oh my goodness, my car is here. It's not in Missouri. It's on a lot in Traverse city, Michigan. So super cool. I'll go in, I double check the then it's mine. I ended up going into the dealership. My salesman didn't even know the car had come in yet. I had found it before he did, but.
00:02:20
Speaker
In any case, exciting day, right? So the dealership people knew me and knew well enough to make sure my car was ready before my dad. So I got my car a day before him. So you picked out an old van, your father, and didn't let him enjoy? Oh, all day. Absolutely. Absolutely. Right. And just so everyone knows, I did try to actually call the dealership to see if they could switch that.
00:02:46
Speaker
It's going to get through. Unfortunately, for everyone else, Tom did get it before his father. Your poor mother, that woman probably had to listen to your dad want to buy that car and talk about it day in, day out. He didn't get it before you. I think we should all shed a tear.
00:03:07
Speaker
say some words for their loss. I absolutely love that.
First Impressions of the Mach-E
00:03:12
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I was going to say, Tom, your experience is similar in mind if you guys remember. My dealer texted me and said, don't, not coming this week. It's going to be next week. It's still in transit.
00:03:23
Speaker
Literally five minutes later, I get a video of it being delivered. So your experience in mine is such the same. It's crazy. Well, I'm glad you got it. The car looks fantastic. Give us your first impressions. What do you think about it? I'm cautiously optimistic. I don't want to be too in love with it right off the get-go and have disappointment. But like we've talked about before, it's the select. It's the entry-level model. So there's a lot of things that it doesn't have. And that's OK.
00:03:51
Speaker
A lot of things also I expected coming into it, like as far as the range is concerned, it's a standard range model. So I know that the EPA guidelines on it are 224 miles, but that is assuming for perfect conditions. And we know that with weather, you're going to have battery or energy loss due to heating the cabin and heating the battery.
00:04:11
Speaker
Which is what I'm seeing right now in my car, depending on temperature is between 20 to 30%. I haven't seen more than 30%. And I think somebody has to do with proper preconditioning versus not. Um, so while I wasn't surprised by that, it's still a little disheartening, but at the same time.
00:04:29
Speaker
The car at 90% charge right now has 180 miles of range according to my app. But no, it's fast. It's smooth. It's quiet. And I was just telling Brian before the call, it is probably the best car that I have ever driven in the winter, hands down. And that's going against the Tahoes I used to drive for work. It's my Ram that I used to drive.
00:04:53
Speaker
Um, at a Chrysler Pacific all wheel drive at one point, that was pretty sweet. Going back to the days when I worked in television, we drove Subaru Imprezas years and years ago. And I always held those as a pretty high benchmark for being good in the winter. So this thing is really impressive and it's with the standard Michelin tires that are on it that come from the factory. So I'm excited to see even with the tire upgrade, how that does.
00:05:16
Speaker
Yeah, I was impressed, Tom. I was impressed that you, uh, like get so much in the winter. Like we talked about my EV six is okay. It's not awesome, but it also has different, it doesn't, Michelin has Kumo, um, a crew gin or whatever tires on it.
00:05:31
Speaker
that I've been reading about not great in the winter. And yeah, it's not the worst car I've ever had in the winter, but it's definitely not better than my truck. So I'm excited to see maybe next winter if I put snows on it, because I've read in the forums and talked to other EV6 owners in Michigan that have winters on, and they say the car just kills. But I'm glad yours is killer in the winter with just its stock Michelin. That's awesome.
Mach-E Technology Features
00:05:53
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What do you like about some of the cool features you've never had before, Tom? Anything new, technology-wise?
00:05:59
Speaker
So for me, new stuff technology wise is the lane keep assist or lane centering and the adaptive cruise control. That's all new stuff for me. And that's pretty cool to have that work. It's all kind of coupled with the blue cruise technology as well that Ford has, which is the hands free driving, but that only works on freeways. I have yet to test that out. And I would like to be able to do that before my 90 day trial for blue cruise expires. Um,
00:06:27
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Cause I want to make sure that it's going to be worth that subscription going forward. But as much as little freeway driving as I do, I don't think it's going to be worth the thing. It's like $600 for three years. Um, I'm probably not going to go that route. And the only other thing that comes with that subscription besides the blue cruise is the 360 camera, which isn't worth it to me either. Yeah. I mean, for me, if, cause we do a lot of road trips, that would probably be something I would look at, but you know, if that's not your use case, then, you know, especially for Northern Michigan slot, two lane roads.
00:06:55
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A lot of back country driving, it's not going to be major highways for hours on end. Yeah. And for listeners across the country, where exactly we're located, I am an hour away from our closest freeway.
00:07:08
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So it's the chance of getting to the freeway is probably slim and I don't do a lot of road trips, at least we're not right now. So I'm not that worried about it. So overall positive? Absolutely. Yeah, overall positive. I like the car a lot. And the big thing with my partner, I was worried that she wasn't going to like it because of all the technology stuff in it. And I think she would drive a Model A if she could just to avoid tech stuff.
00:07:33
Speaker
But she loves it. And, um, she's really kind of latched down to the one pedal driving and is, we're going to use that kind of as our primary family car and keep the gas vehicle that would traditionally be hers. We're going to keep that as just a backup vehicle for now. So it's, it's a nice transition for us to try to save some money and be more efficient, reduce our carbon footprint. That's awesome. Love it. Can't wait to hear more as you, uh, get to experience new things with that. So they
Bryant's Rivian Experience
00:08:00
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might get anything on your side, any ravine stories or anything.
00:08:03
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With the Rivian, I've hit 1,000 miles on that vehicle already. I just keep getting a ton of people asking about the truck. They ask, is that the new Tesla truck? And the answer to that is no. Who's it made by?
00:08:19
Speaker
Rivian, who's Rivian? Where is it from? All that kind of stuff. So that's been a blast to kind of go through and pop the hood and show people there's space you can use it for. Home Depot is very interesting, getting nothing loaded up and having people ask questions, especially when you open up the gear tunnel and put stuff in there, people really stop and take a look.
00:08:44
Speaker
No, it's as I expected, if not better. I have nothing negative to say about that truck other than the Alexa argument that my kids have. So when you say Alexa, all the kids in the background are fighting over who says Alexa. So I've turned that off now. So I'm not hearing Alexa this, Alexa that for every moment the kids are in the car. Other than that, I love it.
00:09:11
Speaker
The Maki has the built-in Alexa too, and I turn that off right away. Like disabled, delete, get that off the screen. The kids do not need to know that exists. Yep. Well, mine do. And they keep wondering where Alexa went. So it's Alexa went bye-bye for the time being.
00:09:32
Speaker
So as you're talking about going to Home Depot and putting wood into the gear tunnel, I just had this vision of I can't wait to see this because we both know or all know that this is going to happen is that somebody is going to try to start moving two by fours in their gear tunnel and they're going to drive down the road with their eight foot two by fours sticking horizontally through that car. Like it's going to happen. We can make a video on that. I'm not going to, but it's going to happen. Yeah, it's going to happen.
00:10:01
Speaker
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00:10:29
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This is a good bloopers episode, Tom. Oh, I'm going to cut out most of the jokes that I made because they just seem low effort. He's going to pee in the corner. Why is your dog going to pee in the corner? I know. Is he not potty trained? We're trying to have a professional podcast. Well, does this look professional to you?
00:11:00
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inspiring confidence across the globe. Yeah, well,
Buying a Used EV: What to Consider
00:11:05
Speaker
all right. So we'll jump into now the point of the topic for this episode for
00:11:10
Speaker
buying a used electric vehicle and some of the things to look for and things that aren't going to exactly translate from an ICE vehicle to an electric vehicle. And if you've compiled a list of things that we're going to cover here just to make sure that you're informed going forward buying used EVs as more used EVs come to market. Bryant, can you start us off with what you think is the most important thing that we should be looking for?
00:11:33
Speaker
Yeah, I know. Thanks, Tom. I think the number one is going to be determining how much the battery has degraded. I think that's probably the number one concern that people are going to have. I think there's a couple ways you can take this and do it. You could obviously take the car that you're thinking about buying through the service department and they can give you a detailed report on battery health. That's probably the most accurate.
00:11:54
Speaker
If you don't want to do that, you can take the vehicle and charge it to 100% and see what the range says. Now, the caveat of that is in the wintertime, like Tom was just talking about his range is a lot lower or if you've driven on the freeway recently, 75 miles an hour, the range is going to be a lot different.
00:12:12
Speaker
Those are two ways you can do it and obviously compare what the 100% charges to what the original rating so that can give you an idea. There's a lot of factors there. Mike, you've had some stats around in the past around percentages of battery degradation degrades this percent per year. Anything to chime in with there? Any research you've done?
00:12:32
Speaker
Yeah, so what you'll typically see, and this is what I've seen with my EVs, and for the listeners who haven't listened to our podcast before, I've owned a number of different EVs over the years. I think I'm at number seven or eight at this point. But what you're going to see over the first three years is that the batteries typically will degrade to a total of about 10%, so they'll have 90% of their capacity left thereabouts. And so about 3% a year, sometimes it's going to be less, sometimes it's going to be more. And as the
00:13:01
Speaker
batteries and the battery management systems get better and better, we're seeing less and less degradation. But that's typically what we've seen, especially when you look at a large number of Teslas in the Model S, Model X range, when those were first coming out and those have the most data on them, just from sheer number of cars produced and that sort of thing. So that's really what you're looking for is typically about 10% you're going to lose over those first couple of years.
00:13:29
Speaker
But beyond that, that if you look at if you're looking at a chart or a graph of the degradation, it really levels off after that point, you're still going to lose a little bit. But over the next 10 years or so, it really doesn't lose a whole lot more beyond that. And I will say I have seen that myself with my Tesla Roadster. That car is running on 13 years at this point, and I have 85 percent of battery capacity left. And that's on that's the original car with a lithium ion battery.
00:13:59
Speaker
And it's still doing very very well and that's what we're seeing come across the board. Another thing just in that realm of degradation if you're looking at.
00:14:16
Speaker
is the more that they're supercharged, and this is across the board, I guess for any electric vehicle, the more they go through a DC fast charging process, the more degradation you're going to see because that's hard on batteries. So if you see people are going to a supercharger
00:14:31
Speaker
And that's it. They're not charging at home on a level two or a level one. They're going to have more degradation. So that's the question. If you are talking to someone who's selling their car as a private seller, how are you charging your car? Are you going to supercharger all the time or are you charging at home? What's your setup along with
00:14:50
Speaker
if they're charging to 100% all the time, because that's not good for the battery. If they're charging less than that, and again, this depends on the vehicle, if it's going to be 70% to 90% in that range, but that's what is usually recommended by the manufacturer to keep it at max until you go on a trip. So if people are charging every day to 100%, that's not great for your battery, and you will see more degradation over that process. One other thing to look for is if you are
00:15:19
Speaker
If you are looking at some Teslas, or again, there's some other manufacturers that do this as well, you can actually get into the diagnostic screen within the car in the service mode, and you can run a battery test at that point, and you can get an idea of the battery health there. End of the day, when you're looking at this, this is something people are concerned about, is because it's a big cost, but we're really not seeing that many failures and that many issues with batteries anyways.
00:15:48
Speaker
Frankly, the warranties are so long on these things, typically eight years and 100,000 miles, sometimes even more than that. So unless you're buying a car that's close to being on a warranty or you plan on keeping it for a very, very long time, it's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be. And that warranty that you hit on, that's actually a federal government mandate. The federal government requires eight years, 100,000 miles on both electric vehicles and hybrid electric
00:16:17
Speaker
vehicle batteries. I think California is 10 years, 150,000 miles in addition to the federal government mandate. So it's across the board. Absolutely. Yeah. That really gives some peace of mind. Again, if you're looking at getting an early Model S though, that's something to really look at because they're starting to see some battery failures there with those cars that are just out of warranty.
00:16:47
Speaker
Right. And so then we start with the warranty information and we start hitting on the ideal of miles and mileage on cars, which would be a traditional marker for an ICE vehicle. Is the mileage that's going to be accumulated onto an electric vehicle as something to be as considered as an ICE vehicle?
00:17:05
Speaker
No, you got to look at the car differently. So instead of looking at how many miles it's gone through, you really need to look at one, what kind of charging, just like I went through before. So is it being charged 100% all the time? Is there a lot of DC fast charging or supercharging all the time? So those are some of the initial components. Miles do factor in when you're talking about tires, brakes. Most people are not even seeing
00:17:30
Speaker
They're seeing 100,000 miles or more on their original brakes. I mean, because of regenerative braking, you're really not using a mush at all for an EV. But it's tires, it's suspension components, and anything that's rubber or plastic on the car is going to wear out over time. So it's those types of things that will happen just like any other car over that timeframe. But you're not dealing with other type of fluid changes and that sort of thing that would
00:17:57
Speaker
If someone didn't change their oil, that's something to really be concerned about. You don't have to worry about that with an EV. So it's really just time and how the battery was taken care of. And then obviously looking a little bit on the miles for the suspension components and that sort of thing. But that's about it.
00:18:16
Speaker
It's a lot simpler. Mike, you talked about the battery replacement. I think that's, you know, these my friends who don't know EVs, they always send me articles of a Chevy, you know, bolt battery replaced. And, you know, how it's not really common to have batteries replaced. You're talking about the Tesla Model S, but, you know, is that one of the things you should look at is has the battery been replaced or is it just pretty rare that batteries are being replaced? You know, what are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean,
00:18:46
Speaker
It's rare if you look at the total number. It really is. And you look at the older cars, there's going to be more of the older cars having their battery replaced than the newer ones. One, just because of time frame, how long they've been on the road. But two, because the technology's gotten better and better. But it's really not... When I'm talking to family, friends, people coming to the website asking, what do I need to be aware of?
00:19:13
Speaker
It's not something I'm typically spending a whole bunch of time worrying about this or looking at this. Just like if you're looking at someone who's buying a three-year-old suburban, do you need to worry about replacing that engine anytime soon?
Evaluating Used EVs: Key Factors
00:19:29
Speaker
No. Frankly, it's even less than that. There's a lot less components when you're looking at even the motor and that sort of thing. Definitely check it out just like anything else. Buy or beware.
00:19:43
Speaker
when you're getting into these things, but it's not something I would ever lose any sleep over. Gotcha. That's helpful. I think another thing that comes to mind is we're talking about battery degradation and range.
00:19:58
Speaker
I think it's a question around how much do you drive your car? And like Tom was talking about, he isn't going the freeway very much. And so is there an opportunity if you only are going to use a vehicle as a commuter car, and it is losing 20% of its range, is that OK? An example comes to mind is the Nissan Leaf is a lower range car, but for just an average commute, it's going to be fine. Commuting 50, 60, 70 miles a day shouldn't be a problem.
00:20:27
Speaker
But I do think, though, something else to think about besides range is speed of charging. So that same Nissan LEAF, I don't want to get too detailed here, but has a 6.6 on board kilowatt charger. And it's going to take a lot longer to top that off than a new Rivian or a new Mach-E or a new EV6. But guys, what are your thoughts around which more important? Is it range or is it charging speed?
00:20:53
Speaker
maybe not what's more important but what should people be looking for is it better to have a longer range and it charges slower or is it shorter range charges faster what are you guys thoughts there the way i look at that is how big is your bladder. I mean that's that's it like when you're on a long road trip if you mean if you're looking at two hundred and twenty two hundred forty miles of range,
00:21:13
Speaker
That's two hours of driving. How often do you need to stop? For me, I've got a couple of kids if I'm going on a road trip and we're not going more than two hours without stopping anyways. Then at that point, it's really how fast is it charging? I don't want to be sitting there for an hour or 45 minutes if it's a real slow trickle charge or something like that. For me, that's a bigger concern than overall range. The other thing that you have to consider too is when you're looking at a
00:21:41
Speaker
a vehicle with a large range, it has a large battery typically. So if you're looking at like a Lucid or even the Rivian, the Rivian's got 135 kilowatt battery. That's a big battery pack. So even if you're getting a good amount of rain, it's still just going to take longer just because your kids takes more energy to fill it up. And so that's something to consider too.
00:22:00
Speaker
And I would echo that sentiment. My, my preference would be for the faster charging over overall range, just so that you could keep moving. Um, and I know like the, the Machi compared to the EV six, you know, like what you've got, Brian is about half the max charging speed. And so I know that if I go to a fast charger, my Machi is going to take me longer than you in your EV six.
00:22:24
Speaker
Yeah, it's hopefully if a fast charger actually is fast charging. That's a whole different topic, but yes. Sure. Absolutely. Right. And none of that's really specific to a used vehicle other than just being informed about your purchase of any vehicle you buy and knowing what it's capable of and what to expect and how you're going to use it. Yeah. Tom, I think of the really good point, like talking about
00:22:43
Speaker
things that you would normally look at when you're buying a vehicle. Let's talk about that because a lot of times people are buying an EV, they're buying a used EV, they haven't bought a car in five, six years. It's not something they're really used to. I want to walk through that for folks so that they are aware of the typical things that I look for and I think the rest of us look for when we're buying a used vehicle. Number one, right off the bat is,
00:23:06
Speaker
I always check out the Carfax or the auto check report. Again, if you look at our website, you'll see all our cars have one or the other. The best majority of our cars on our website have one or the other of those reports available. Look at where the car was. If it was in a place that's got all
00:23:24
Speaker
A ton of potholes or the roads aren't really maintained very well. That's something that you might have to consider for suspension components. Does it have an accident report? Does it have a salvage title? That kind of stuff to make sure that you're buying sort of a whole vehicle, right? There's not a major hit on that, the value of the car. So that's one thing, again, no matter what type of car you're looking at, you need to look at as well, repairs. There's been any repairs done to that car.
00:23:51
Speaker
And a lot of times you can't get that from, if it's a used car trade into a dealership, they're not gonna have the warranty or the repair history on that car. But if you're getting one private party, you certainly can. There's a much higher chance you could get that information. Ask about it. Tesla, for example, doesn't release the repair history on a car. So you don't know if it's had the main, they call it the MCU, but the main unit in the car that handles all the
00:24:21
Speaker
the navigation, that sort of thing, all the controls, if that's been replaced, door handles, that's a really common failure on Model Ss, and that sort of thing. Find out what repairs have been done because there's a good chance you might have to repair those in the future if they haven't been done, again, just like any other vehicle. And then lastly, I would say,
Used EV Purchase Checklist
00:24:40
Speaker
see what charging cables and what extras come with the car. So if there's a level one charger that comes with it, make sure you get that. If there's an extra set of wheels, if there's the floor mats that come with it, if there's no floor mats, go to our website, buy some floor mats, that'd be awesome. All those types of things. Anything you need with the car, see if it comes with it. If not, find out where you need to buy that stuff. So those are the things that I typically think about. I don't know if you guys have anything to add to
00:25:10
Speaker
as well as components. I mean, Mike, you'd point out something that I think is different in EVs, and even with new EVs, is the charger, right? So my car did not come with a charger. And you're talking, you know, anywhere from level one, you know, 150 bucks to $500. That's significant. So making sure you put that into the asking of, you know, hey, does it come with a level one charger? Does it come with anything?
00:25:34
Speaker
I think that's important. And then I think the only other thing I'd add that you talked about just briefly, but on new cars, obviously, there's the tax incentive. On used cars, in 2024, there is a tax incentive if the vehicle is below $25,000. There is up to a $4,000. It doesn't take effect this year, so it's another. But there could be some local incentives. So maybe you have a local incentive or utility incentive.
00:26:01
Speaker
Talk about your utility. Your utility incentive was actually pretty awesome on your charging. Talk about that for a minute. The electric cooperative that I'm a part of, where I live, offered an $800 rebate for the purchase and installation of a level two charger, residential charger.
00:26:20
Speaker
assuming that you also bought an electric vehicle. And I was able to provide receipts for the installation of that, as long with the vehicle purchase, which the separate rebate for the vehicle purchase was $500. So I'm going to get a total of $1,300 back for the purchase of both the charger and installation and then the electric vehicle as well, which almost cover the entire cost of the installation of the charger.
00:26:47
Speaker
And then it still qualifies for a 30% tax rebate as well. So, you know, our $500 coming back from the federal government in the form of my tax return. So.
00:27:00
Speaker
In all, I'll probably make money on that transaction. So that's good to look for as well.
Incentives and Rebates for EV Purchases
00:27:06
Speaker
It's really good advice. So I think just recapping what we've talked about, like with any car, like Mike was talking about, Carfax, take a look at the accident history report, that's across the board, making sure you get service records, things like that.
00:27:21
Speaker
I think specifically for EV is trying to find out, ask about fast charging like Michael's talking about. Take it and see if you can get a battery health report or charge it to 100% to see what the range is looking like. And then don't forget to ask about chargers or accessories that came with the car that you wouldn't normally have on an ICE vehicle. But I'd say that's the summary of what we talked about unless I missed anything else. Well, I just had a couple of thoughts in it.
00:27:50
Speaker
you'll end up seeing with all EVs, frankly, is because of the weight. We talked about this on the previous podcast, is the tire wear. If you have some alignment issues potentially, you're going to have some different wearing, especially with some of these vehicles that have air suspensions. What they're seeing is usually the inside of the tire is worn a little bit more than the outside.
00:28:13
Speaker
Make sure you take a good look at those. I always say get a third party inspection on the vehicle if you can. Ideally, take it to the dealership just because they're used to those EVs, especially with the newer ones out there. They're going to be the experts in it, so take it there if you can. Have a pre-purchase inspection done. The other thing too that's going to factor in when you're buying a used car is if it has any paint protection film put on it. A lot of people are putting that on their EVs.
00:28:42
Speaker
When they get them for the first time because they're they're a large investment and people want to take care of them So that'd be one thing to check out too. I mean if it has it usually that's a couple hundred dollars to a few thousand dollars worth of Costs that the previous owner put into that car that will save the paint and usually makes it look a little bit nicer So, you know, is it a deal breaker for me? Definitely not one way or the other but it is a nice add-on if it is there
00:29:05
Speaker
Good point. That's a good point. Well, I think this is all really sound advice guys, and I appreciate you coming together to put this up and.
EVUniverse as a Resource
00:29:13
Speaker
I also want to remind our listener that evuniverse.com has thousands, literally thousands of listings of used cars that are up on our site and available for you to purchase and go over and check out. And if you have questions, reach out to us and we are happy to answer them and be that resource for you to help make that transition as easy as possible. And I know that's a message we keep pushing that we are here to be transparent.
00:29:40
Speaker
and we're here to be helpful and to make this an easy transition for you into that electric vehicle space. Mike and Brian, I appreciate you guys being here again, as always. Thanks, Tom. Enjoy the Mach-E. Okay, I appreciate it. Thanks, guys.
Closing and Call to Action
00:29:54
Speaker
And real quick, the Mach-E, Brian.
00:29:56
Speaker
There is no old man mode. It's just unbridled. It just goes as fast as it wants at any time it wants. It's weird. It's a perfect thing for you at times. Really? Oh, that's crazy. Just fast. All 100% the whole time. It may just be you. All right, guys. Take care. Take care. Thank you for listening to Plug In For More. Make sure you subscribe so you don't miss any future episodes. In the meantime, check out the one-stop EV Marketplace, evuniverse.com. Until next time.