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E6: Gatekeeping and surfing
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Today we'll do the regular what's going on in our lives and then touch on the evils of gatekeeping. Jerid tells us about the Wavecutter and we find out that he got lucky with the show notes last week. Come listen in!
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Denis Tyrell of Tyrell Knifeworks:
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Transcript
Introductions and Beverages
00:00:16
Speaker
Hey folks, welcome to the triple T for knife makers podcast. I'm here with my buddy Jared sand of all of echo blades. Jared. How's it hanging? Good man. How about yourself? Pretty good. Pretty good. Had a nice relaxing
The 'Cat's Ass' Joke
00:00:32
Speaker
weekend. I am sipping a drink. Uh, always good. What's in the cup? Uh, crown royal and ginger ale. Damn. Get it buddy. I have me a
00:00:48
Speaker
black raspberry natural incensed La Croix sparkling water. I want to see me. You don't want to see me acting up after about 10 sparklers. First of all, I'm going to call it it's not like Roy. Okay. La Croix. I had to pull some Canada on you there. Speaking of Canada, dude. So
00:01:14
Speaker
I would say it's not overwhelming, but I did get quite a few comments that the cat's ass is a real thing. It's a course. It's a real thing. I Googled it for you. It's real thing. I didn't believe you. I'm not believing you, but I had several people, someone from Saskatchewan. It's a real thing. Okay. All right.
00:01:39
Speaker
I'm going to whittle this thing into my vocabulary.
Prank and Social Media Mishap
00:01:44
Speaker
That's right. The cat's ass. The cat's ass. Even vindicated. That's right. For once, I was right. Tell my wife.
00:02:00
Speaker
Absolutely not. Oh, and since we're on making fun of each other, I want to tell the audience that I had the best gag plan for Jared. Gaggle. This was going to be epic. So I know Jared's not going to read the show notes. Like, he's not. True. So of course, I went down to the show notes and I'm like, I don't know what to put in those things. I don't know.
00:02:25
Speaker
So I figured I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to put some random shit down there and talk shit about Jared in the show notes and see how many episodes we can go until he notices.
Instagram Growth Success
00:02:38
Speaker
But the fucker shared the podcast and it copied some of the notes as part of the image when he shared it. That's the only reason he saw the show notes.
00:02:50
Speaker
I was going to roast him. That's an astounding zero shows. Damn it. It would have been so great. Well, that was the first time I've ever read them. Maybe the first one I did. I read the first one, but after that, I was like, yeah, this is not. I knew it. I knew it. I knew you don't read those. You would have had me, but you ditched out and, you know, didn't want to start the IG account, which by the way, is a good call on your part because
00:03:20
Speaker
It's definitely another thing to, to do. And, uh, but man, I'm, I'm again, overwhelmed. We got like 90 followers in a week. So we really appreciate you guys had a bunch of great messages from some people, uh, more good feedback.
Challenges with Wood Materials
00:03:36
Speaker
That's awesome. Some, some cats ass tails. Um, what else? Um, some cat tails. Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:45
Speaker
Some people reaching out about the, uh, that situation I was having with the stabilized or unstabilized wood that I was going through. Oh yeah. The redwood. Yeah. So our good buddy, Ryan cochlea, um, from the hustle and grind and Ryan Chadbourne.
00:04:07
Speaker
Yeah, I think he's been, you know, we've talked about how weird that is. There's a reason it's something with the last name or something. But anyways, Ryan, thank you,
Knife Making for Family
00:04:16
Speaker
buddy. I shipped to that scale, that set of scales and another one for him to kind of check out and see if I just wasn't losing my mind. And he received them today.
00:04:32
Speaker
And so it wasn't in my mind and he's going to give him a, he's going to give him a one silver. So we'll see if they're salvageable or not. Good. So I hope he can, cause they're, they're nice looking scales. They just feel like they should weigh three times as much. Yeah. Yeah. They're not dense. They didn't soak up any of the magic juice that they use. They soaked up all the mineral I put on bastards.
00:05:01
Speaker
He's gonna give him the give him the old cochlea treatment and I appreciate it man. Thanks Yeah, he sent me a couple of pictures what they should look like and you know, which I've seen before but yeah Yeah, I'm looking forward to see what Hopefully it works out and you make something awesome with them because that's some really nice stuff. It can be really nice stuff. Yeah and The the other ones I I never reached back out to that guy to fix but it's all good all good in my hood and
00:05:32
Speaker
Cool, cool. So what's new in the shop? Well, Dennis, Jared, I finished a knife. I should have little like explosion sound effects. I need applause. Hey, wait, what's this one? I forgot I had that one. Fucking spring training started, Dennis. Are you fired up?
00:06:02
Speaker
Baseball's stupid. You're so lame. I'd rather watch golf. Oh my god, we could be in Arizona or Florida right now, not in this rain. You know, I'm not that much into sports. And if there's any sport I'm not into, it's baseball. You know that.
00:06:23
Speaker
I'd rather watch it. Actually, this is honest. I'd rather watch fishing than, uh, than baseball or pretty much any major sport. Fishing is awesome. Yeah. Golf is awesome. Football's awesome. Basketball's awesome. Sports are awesome. All those are fun to play. Baseball? Not so much. Get out of here. I'm going to get hate mail now for like, what do you mean?
Knife Design and Family Bonds
00:06:46
Speaker
You can't be the US. You can't be the US and not like baseball. It's our national sport.
00:06:51
Speaker
I agree. Get out of here. Go back to the cat's ass. No, man, because I'm a lifelong A's fan and they suck and they're horrible. The owner's a bitch and it's tough. So sure. We're not going to get a sponsor from them now. Yeah. Fuck them. They're going to Vegas or some shit. So if they even let them in there.
00:07:18
Speaker
That's not, that's not cool. First, the Raiders, now the A's. We're going to have a major eight on for Vegas. Oakland lost three professional sports teams. How in the hell does that happen? That's insane. Yeah. Anyways. But, um, I am thinking about maybe going to a game again this year, because it might be the last. So I was a season ticket holder for like five years. So.
00:07:48
Speaker
Maybe three, but whatever. Five sounds better. But yeah, anyways, it's happening now. So anyways, back to the, to the, to the nice stuff. So I finished the wave cutter and yeah, dude, it came out really good. It did. Good job. Thank you. I appreciate it.
00:08:11
Speaker
But the funny thing is, is, uh, I hate it. So, uh, all I could see is, uh, you know, the next one, right? I guess. Yeah. Moving on to the next one. Yeah. But I'm so happy to have
Knife Grinding Challenges
00:08:24
Speaker
it out of my shop. My brother came and, uh, picked it up this weekend, which was really cool. Um, you know, the whole theme behind that build was my brother, uh, who I'm really close with, uh,
00:08:39
Speaker
Love the guy. Cool. We have like best friends. I always trip out when people talk about how they're not friends or not close with their brothers or their siblings, I should say. And, uh, cause that's just not been the case for us. Like it doesn't matter if we're together every day or, you know, like it is right now where I don't see each other that much. But, um, anyways, good dude, always have blast. And, uh, so he moved somehow.
00:09:08
Speaker
The fucker lucked out and moved to this coastal town, uh, in the Monterey area, Santa Cruz, um, and took up surfing. Like, okay. It's not like Hawaii surfing guys. It's like freezing ass water. It doesn't sound, that doesn't sound fun to me. I like sports, but, uh, it's not my thing. He tried to get me to go out there. I'm like, dude, no way. I'll surf boat, but not, not, not in the ocean. I'm all good. I like the water, but I, I'm.
00:09:37
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. Fucking sharks and shit out there. Literally. There's sharks out there. It's not my jam. So, uh, anyways, yeah, he took a surfing and it, uh, one day I just thought about making a knife for him. So I did this, try to come up with this theme
Knife Making Advice
00:09:56
Speaker
for water. So I got with Dennis and I was like, dude, I want to make like this wavy kind of Damascus style. Um, so.
00:10:07
Speaker
The old guru, uh, put some ideas together and, uh, I forged that thing out and came out. What would we use a chevrons? Yep. And so it's about 400 layers ish. Um, and with the Chevron pattern in there to my kind of get a little wave and then picked some water themed wavy handles. And man, it just, it really, it felt cool to, you know, actually have like a theme and like,
00:10:36
Speaker
It all just came together, you know? And so the funny part is, is though I realized that. I'll just make a number of, but maybe like 80% of the people I think that we give knives to, because every time I show my wife a knife, she's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, great. I'm like, what do you think about this? Do you notice anything? She's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, it's another fucking knife. I know. That's why I'm laughing. Yeah. I know.
00:11:05
Speaker
Well, at least Kim's like, well, did you bedazzle it? She notices the handle material more than anything else. Even if I spent 48 total hours making the Damascus, she's going to notice the pretty wood.
Gatekeeping in Knife Making
00:11:22
Speaker
Yeah, that's it. So I gave it to him and he's like,
00:11:24
Speaker
Oh yeah. You know, I mean, he was fired up to get it, but I could just see it in his eyes. He's like, Oh, you know, he's like, how long did you work on this? Like what? 12 or 16 hours. I'm like, bitch, that's how long it took to make the steel dude. And he's like, what? So, but the coolest thing, Dennis, I think the absolute, the coolest thing other than like, I like selling knives because I like money, right?
00:11:54
Speaker
Um, but the act of giving is something that's, you know, in its own self, very gratifying. Right. And, um, but what happened was I started talking to him about it. Like, you know, my wife was like, Oh, he worked really hard on this and stuff. Cause the, to be honest, this thing was supposed to be a fucking 2023 Christmas gift. But, you know, I don't give a shit about deadlines, I guess. And you're not good at meeting them.
00:12:22
Speaker
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, I care about them. I just, I just don't do them very well. But, um, it just, you know, life happens. Like, you know, um, I was gonna say, Oh, so I saw a little like sparkle in his eye. Like I started showing him the video and started showing him, like, I do. So I've been kind of documenting this build for, you know, over, you know, this course of time. And, uh,
00:12:46
Speaker
I saw a little like, you know, the, the, the switch, like, Oh, like, so I started explaining stuff to him. So if anything, you know, he's got a fucking bad-ass knife. And, um, he was like, Oh, maybe I should try to get in the shop with you and stuff. So I think if nothing else comes of it, you know what I mean? Like, you know, get some more time to hang out with him, teach somebody, right? Which you're recently, you know, diving into is a whole nother, you know, uh,
Spotlight on New Makers
00:13:12
Speaker
experience in itself. So.
00:13:13
Speaker
Um, yeah, I mean, just hanging with your bro in, uh, cause when I have my son in the shop, it's super fun. You know, it's the same kind of feeling. Yep. And I've had a couple of people over and, you know, kind of teach it, which is weird, right? Cause I'm, I feel like I don't know anything, but you know, you, you're sharing what's freely given to you, right? Because of this awesome community of people that just,
00:13:41
Speaker
don't guard any secrets. I mean, there's a ham, maybe a couple people, but they're probably doing really cool shit and they probably should keep it secret. So, but for the most part, you know, you ask a question, you get an answer, you know, from a lot of really helpful people. And yeah, absolutely. The hard part is kind of weeding out the bad answers, you know? Yeah. I was just on just before this, of course, I was doing my usual surfing through the Facebook groups and, uh,
00:14:12
Speaker
reading some guy who bought, you know, I think I've read this kind of post a couple of dozen times in the last few months, but he buys some 1095 off of Amazon and he wants to know if, the guy wants to know if he can, he treated in his wood stove at home. Oh. Yeah, which is a terrible idea. But everyone's like, you should, you could see the, like the,
00:14:40
Speaker
the random answers and misinformation there is Facebook is you got to be careful what you listen to. Like the old, yeah, it worked for me answer. And the 1095 is easy to heat treat and you could do it in canola oil and he treated at 1550. Three people said he treat 1095 at 1550. I don't know what the hell they're talking about, but
00:15:08
Speaker
all kinds of misinformation. So be careful where you get your info. Yeah. I think that's with anything else though, right? There's all kinds of amateur professionals out there, but right, right. So yeah, really cool experience, man. I'm so fucking happy to get that thing out and to be done and to get it all just get out of there. So I'm onto the next thing.
Community Support in Knife Making
00:15:36
Speaker
Very cool, dude. I got, I got a handful of orders.
00:15:39
Speaker
I started piling up, dude. So I'm like, okay, well, you know, you had about a six month lead. No, I'm kidding. Six months isn't bad actually. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. And I'm right on par. So to be late. So it's more like nine months, I guess. But, and then, uh, yeah, so working on the next one, um, I got a, uh,
00:16:05
Speaker
couple billets, you know, that I got to get through. But, um, yeah, so I'm, I'm, I'm stoked. And then after I was done with that knife, I was looking at, you know, what I had laying around in the shop. And I've had this, uh, twist Damascus that you and I had done long time ago. I actually, I brought it to blade. It was one of two knives that I was trying to get done for blade show last year that I didn't, but, uh, I brought them and.
00:16:31
Speaker
The pattern's really cool, but I just, I absolutely despised the grind that I did on it. So it's just been out of sight, out of mind, just laying around. So I picked it up and I went back to the grinder with it. Holy shit, dude. I mostly took about half of the material off that was on it. Like, and it just really made me kind of step back a second and realize that, you know, nine months ago, that was acceptable, I guess.
00:17:01
Speaker
Yeah. And today I'm like, Oh my God. That's why I always tell people, you know, like, they're like, how do we ever made a night? I'm like, just chill out, dude. The longer you wait, the better things. The best knife is just a point in time. Yeah, exactly. But, uh, yeah, so I, I reground all that. And, uh, so now I'm,
00:17:25
Speaker
I'm interested in that build again. So nice. Yeah. Yeah. I got like three, well, counting the Viking, uh, the Viking challenge, but I got three others hard on the way. Like I got a bunch that are kind of on deck, but, um, and okay, I'll say never say never, right? What, what, what is the one thing I told you would never come out of my shop?
00:17:53
Speaker
a brute to forge a knife. Well, in the last course, I had a wife of another guy that came for a class.
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00:18:05
Speaker
And as she's doing hers, and I always forge a knife and show them whatever. And I figured, OK, I'll forge in the bevels, and I'll try to do it as close to forge finish as I can.
00:18:20
Speaker
And then she wanted a forge finish on the side of her knife, which was great. I mean, she got it the right thickness and then she just had to do bevels and she had a great forge finish. It looked really good. And then I'm like, oh, maybe I'll do it. So I'm actually working on my very first, believe it or not, my very first brute to forge finished knife. Cause I don't normally like them, but this one's kind of a kind of a rustic look. I kind of like it.
00:18:51
Speaker
So never say never Dennis. Never say never. I know, right? So that, what else I got going? Oh, oh, that, that shark, the one where I did the 3d printed sharks down the blade. Oh yeah. Yeah. I remember that one.
00:19:09
Speaker
Yeah. I finally made a knife out of that. So kind of crank that one out in the next, I don't know, month or so between other build. This is like, you know, the kind when the forage is heating up and I'm waiting for something, then I'll grind that or I'll do something with it. And when, you know, I always have something that I can do while I'm waiting for something else. So, uh, so I can keep myself busy in the shop. So that's what those are for. Yeah.
00:19:36
Speaker
but Viking challenge is well underway. The Damascus, I'm feeling good about where I'm at at the Damascus now. I finally have the mosaic to the point where it's actually cooling in the forage right now. Tomorrow, I'm waiting for bandsaw blades, but I should be able to slice it up into tiles and do the tile weld tomorrow or Wednesday.
00:20:05
Speaker
Uh, no, I went to, I got a class Wednesday, believe it or not. Um, Wednesday, late afternoon, the guy's coming to take grinding lessons. Ooh. Yeah. Which is like right after when I need to record the video for grinding lessons for a triple T this week. So I might have them in the video. We'll see. That'd be cool. Yeah. So it'll be like a live session on how to, how to, uh, grind a knife grinding basis.
00:20:35
Speaker
That won't be nerve wracking for him. I did. I did it at you. Remember? Yeah. I was going to say, I know a guy that did that shit. That was horrible. I might just, you know, have him at the end and ask him, did you learn anything and all that stuff? So we'll see. That's even more terrifying. You can't put them on the spot. I'll put that camera in front of someone's face. It's not easy.
00:21:05
Speaker
No, that's cool though. That's good timing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a good refresher for me too. Cause I know I got to teach it Wednesday afternoon. So I'm probably going to record the video Wednesday morning. So it'll be a fresh in my head. There you go. Yeah. So yeah, you get to a point where you're just, you end up kind of doing and not really thinking about how, you know, it becomes second nature type thing, you know,
00:21:31
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, and you forget all the little things that you do that are like subconscious, I guess, or whatever that you don't, you don't think to tell someone the whole difference between knowing something and knowing how to teach something. Right.
Inspiration in Knife Making
00:21:48
Speaker
Oh man. It's a, that is a, that's a real thing. Some people are really shitty teachers.
00:21:53
Speaker
But they're really awesome at what they do, right? They just can't explain the process. I think that's the important part of teaching anyways. Yeah. I mean, you got to get good quality feedback. I've had good quality feedback from you at times on, you know, say this, don't say that kind of thing.
00:22:14
Speaker
Yeah. But the, yeah, I mean, shit, when you, speaking of that, the, that first beginning grinding thing that you did, the hole on the rest and the pressure with the thumb, you know, the way that you grind your bevels, that was just like a fucking moment for me. Cause I was, I was lost in the sauce there for a while.
00:22:37
Speaker
Yeah, so cool. Yeah, that'll be that'll be this week's going to redo the grinding basics video again, with some, some new little tricks, hopefully, and yeah, get, get things going. And then I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do when the video after that I might
00:23:00
Speaker
break and talk about heat treating before we do the next video. Like do like the heat, like heat treating.
00:23:11
Speaker
understanding heat treating before I actually do it in the video. Because watching someone heat treat a knife is actually pretty boring. It doesn't tell you anything. You're dipping steel in oil like a monkey could do that. It's the science of it and the when and the how and the colors and all that stuff. Absolutely. Yeah.
00:23:34
Speaker
Speaking of the video last week was really good. I was thinking that's kind of the theme of this podcast. I thought maybe I should watch it. So I watched it today. Thanks, bro. You're welcome. I got your back, man.
00:23:54
Speaker
It was way longer than I had planned because I was thinking like profiling and drilling holes like one side looks like a five minute video turns out there's actually quite a bit to talk about when you do you know because you got
00:24:10
Speaker
which I didn't and purposely didn't talk about does knife design that much in the first one when I'm forging the knife, even though in my head, I know what I'm going to, you know, forge to and I talked a little bit about, okay, I'm going to forge something that looks like this. But we didn't talk about, you know, lines and curves and keeping things like and
Ongoing Knife Projects
00:24:35
Speaker
I figured I had before I ground the profile, I had to talk about those things.
00:24:40
Speaker
you know like don't round out the ricasso and don't don't round out the bottom port part of the handle where the the swell is it just looks goofy when you really round that out and just some things like that i figured you gotta
00:24:55
Speaker
You got to talk about those things. And then the whole topic on surface grinding and why I think the surface grinding attachment should be the first attachment you get for your two by 72 by far. It makes a lot of things easier and flatter at that. And then holes, which I do in my classes now because
00:25:25
Speaker
probably nine times out of 10. Because you're in a class, you're in a hurry, right? You don't have time to let things anneal. So coming off the, we're barely letting the knife cool. I mean, we are, but letting it cool, we're not letting it cool slowly. It's probably hard in the center and then you got to drill holes. I don't have time to anneal it.
00:25:47
Speaker
Right? I'm going to either a one or a two day class. Like I don't have that kind of time. We got to do it. So the trick about using a center cutting end mill, uh, instead of trying to just rack your, pull your hair out, drill in holes with it, with a drill. And in fact, they even talked about this topic on a knife talk last week. Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:12
Speaker
And I even, I even reached out to Mareko and I said, dude, don't, don't do the masonry bits. Cause he said he was burning up a masonry bed on every hole. I'm like, get yourself a $12, uh, center cutting end mill and it will go through hardened steel, like butter. And, uh, you can use it over and over. Uh, that's what I do. And that's a, that's how I drill holes in, in, in knives for classes. So there's a good tip for everybody. Yeah. I've never, I've never done that.
00:26:42
Speaker
And I think most people, if you don't have a mill, you don't understand what an end mill is and why it's useful. So most people don't, they don't think of them. But once you have a mill,
New Equipment and Technology
00:26:52
Speaker
you're like, oh, I can use an end mill to cut through anything. Because most times I forget to do, like if I want to do a sharpening choil,
00:27:03
Speaker
I always forget to put a sharpening choil in with the chainsaw file, so I take my file to the mill, pop it in. Cheater. I know. Cheater. Then just go half the diameter of an end mill and I can do it on a hardened blade.
00:27:21
Speaker
And then I'm done and I don't have to do anything. So yeah, I'm a big fan of end mills and haven't, well, the luxury of having a mill, but you can put an end mill in a drill press as long as you're just plunging with it. No problem. You're talking about just stuffing it in a drill press, right? Yeah, in a drill press. Don't try to do left and right XY movement with it because you'll wreck your drill press, but
00:27:48
Speaker
Um, but yeah, just, just, uh, plunging with it. It's no problem. Cool. Pro tip. Yeah. Go get yourself some end mills. Or you can just buy a induction forge. I need to hang up real quick. Yeah. Yeah. You could do that. You still got a lot of cool slowly, but yeah.
00:28:10
Speaker
It's going to be a race. Who's going to get their induction forged? Because I already got mine. Who's going to get their induction forged set up first and do the first video? You or me?
00:28:23
Speaker
Yeah. You know, I got you on this one because, uh, I found out today, I think you need a 40 amp breaker and I'm pretty sure Jared doesn't have a 40 amp breaker. So I have a 25. I knew it. So you're going to have to, uh, uh, rewire and put in a new outlet, right? You should have a 50 anyway. Yeah. Wasn't two 25s 50.
00:28:52
Speaker
Uh, no, one 50 is 50. Bullshit. Well, that's what happens when you buy shit without doing any research. So well, at the time you didn't have anything that needed 50 amp, right? Yeah. Neither, neither did I until like, what, until I bought the big vertical quench, the vertical oven. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the only reason why I put in the 50. Cause I needed one for that.
00:29:21
Speaker
It's good to have if you ever sell the house and someone wants to buy it and has a, one of those fancy Teslas, they'll want a 50 amp breaker. Yeah. Or they're a knife maker and they need an induction forage or a big ass heat treating oven. I got you. I got your back, but, uh, the, the chiller did come in today. Oh, nice. So he's waiting for me. So, uh, now I have two boxes and.
00:29:52
Speaker
I'm going to get the, uh, I was watching, uh, Chris is at his video and he bought a, uh, a Harbor freight cart. That's what I ordered one today. Yeah.
Balancing Life and Knife Making
00:30:06
Speaker
He's got the one that has a little drawer out of the side to keep all the shit in. Um, but you got to cut the legs and kind of extend it by about four or six inches. Cause the chiller is too tall for the bottom part.
00:30:21
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I didn't get that one. I got the cheapest 16-inch wide hobo freight cart that I knew would fit. Is it tall enough? Is the bottom part tall enough? Yeah, because I think it's the same one I have, except I have the narrower one for
00:30:40
Speaker
whatever the hell I have on that thing. Now I put my, I don't, I forget. No, no. Oh yeah. Yeah. Sam blashers on it. No, Sam blashers run a different one, but yeah, something like that. Gotcha. All right. Well, yeah. Shit. We're getting there. Yeah. I mean, I think the, the smart thing to do is just to let you go through all of the trouble of figuring everything out. Yeah. I know that's what you're going to do. And you're going to, you're going to let me buy all the fittings and figure it out for you. Right.
00:31:09
Speaker
Absolutely. That's why I put that idea in your head. See, I said, Hey, I'm going to do this. And the plan is in motion folks. Well, luckily I've got a Chris Powell and Brian house on a speed dial for this thing. I've asked each of them, geez, a bunch of questions on it. So they're probably sick of answering my DMS. No one's sick of here. Yeah. Sliding into DMS, dude. You're good.
00:31:38
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But yeah, I'm anxious to... The problem is I get too excited. I got a new toy. I know I got to finish this Viking build. That should be my focus because I finally designed the sword today.
00:31:54
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And I'm looking at it and going, holy shit. It's a sword? Yeah. There's a lot of work to do on this thing. There's, there's guards, there's pummels, there's engraving, there's spacers. There's like, I am biting off way more than I can chew for this build given the time that I have left. Hey, you know what else is coming up to? Yeah, yeah. Shut your mouth.
00:32:15
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What do you mean? What are you talking about? Yeah, I know. I know blade show is coming up in three months. Three months. Three months. Yeah. I think I'm going to have like three knives on the table and a Viking sword. That's about it.
00:32:32
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Why aren't you taking like 10 years off before you let's just knock a bunch of shit out right before you go. Uh, I'm taking the week before blade show off and the week after blade show because Sunday, probably afternoon, I am leaving blade show to head to Cancun Mexico for the week. Yeah. Yes, folks. I will be lying on a beach the week after blade show. Very excited.
00:33:00
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Oh, you people going back to your shops. I'm practicing what my mother told me when I was a little kid. So she told me to tell you her bitch.
00:33:17
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No, I'm happy for you. That's awesome, man. Would, uh, special occasions or? Well, uh, if you, you know, you know, but everyone else's blade, blade show always falls on my anniversary. So my anniversary is June 1st. So I'm always either at blade show or on my way to blade show. So I always miss.
00:33:40
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my anniversary and, uh, incidentally maker campus, I was on my, my birthday, so I'm never home for either my birthday or my anniversary. So my wife's not too thrilled about that. So, uh, that's, this is, uh, our fifth anniversary and our friends, it's their 25th anniversary and a whole bunch of, uh, of, of other friends going, there's like 40 of us going to Mexico. So it should be 40. Yeah.
00:34:09
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four, zero, four, zero. Holy shit. That's a lot of friends. That's a lot of opportunity for fighting. It's a whole bunch of family and a whole bunch of kids that, uh, I'm probably going to, you know, stay away from all the kids. Cause we're at the other part of the resort and that has the adults only section. So we'll probably live there. Okay. Good. All right. Well, you got a plan at least. Yeah. Yeah. There's a plan. Yeah. I'm over all the kids shit.
00:34:40
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My kids are grown. I'm done. I'm going to go on vacation. Uh, that's it. Right. My wife and I just recently liked the past maybe three or four years finally started taking vacations without those little beautiful children. Well, your, your youngest is way younger than mine. How old is Jared Jr? Jared is 15. 15. Okay. Yeah.
00:35:07
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My youngest is 18, so he'll be 19 in September. Yeah, but I have 22 of 28. What were you thinking? Get it over with. No, I'm talking about starting again with the 15-year-old. Oh, shit. I didn't even see that coming. God dang it.
00:35:29
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I think you're right. You forgot what caused kids and 13 years later. My kids are like seven years apart. So just long enough to forget what it was actually like. So we, you know, give it another try, but, uh, yeah.
00:35:45
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But he's the best one, so. Yeah. You ask any one of my kids who's the best and I always tell them, you are. Whoever's in front of me. Oh, you know, my wife, so she's got three kids and I have two kids. So her three, she's got the two oldest are girls and the youngest is a boy. She tells all three of them that the boy is her favorite. Everyone knows that Cameron is her favorite.
00:36:09
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She's very public about it. There you go. You asked my wife, it would be the same. Her baby boy is the everything. Well, maybe I don't know if it's because the camera was the youngest or because it's a boy. I don't know. It's the combo. It's over here in my house. I got two boys that are just less than two years apart and all they did was fight.
00:36:36
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Yeah, that's, I think, well, you know, with the, the wave corner stuff, my brother and I, I don't think we were really like ever went at it. I mean, there's a handful of times, like he'll probably tell you a different story because I was the older brother, but, uh, yeah. Do they, are they good now or they don't? Yeah.
00:36:55
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I mean, they're 20 and 18. They just kind of kind of ignore each other. Yeah. That's good. Me and my brother got a lot of trouble. So I could see that. Yeah. That's for sure. So let's talk about YouTube comment of the week. Since I made this a thing last week, I figured I would talk about it this week.
00:37:23
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So they're all positive and nothing's bad in the YouTube world. Hey, I'm not going to bring up a YouTube comment of the week. That is a good one. Oh, that's horrible. Let me hear. I'm interested. All right. So I've had a different flavor of this comment, probably
00:37:43
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I'm not exact, 500 to a thousand times, like at least. In fact, so much that I have a canned answer on my FAQ on my website because I got sick and tired of answering and I wanted a place to go and cut and paste it and put it into the comment. This one is slightly different, but the same vein here. And the comment simply said, and it was on my copper Damascus Katana.
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And the comment says, don't use the term katana because they're the gatekeeper of the term katana. And just this notion of gatekeeping on these kind of terms, the one that really gets me heated up,
00:38:35
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is when someone goes off and about, why do you use the term Damascus? It's pattern-welded steel. Why do you care, first of all? Are you the guardian of language for all existence?
00:38:57
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Don't be a gatekeeping elitist prick is kind of my theme here. It's something that it really despises. It just makes, you know, the only reason people do this
00:39:12
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this kind of thing is to pretend to show, to impress me with how smart they are. Right. Right. Like that's what they're doing. You're not trying to educate me. You're trying to prove that you know something and. More than you. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
00:39:31
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And it's not, I don't get it too much on YouTube, but certainly on Facebook's terrible when, you know, not so much the knife making groups, but just Facebook in general, for some reason you post something and everyone wants to show you how wrong you are. But, you know, don't do that. Don't be that guy. That's actually usually what I post. Don't be that guy. Yeah, that's a good one. That wants to gatekeep and protect and feels like they need to show everybody
00:40:01
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you know, the proper terms to use. I still don't get the Katana comment. Like what did they elaborate or don't use the term Katana. And I've had this before because people say it's not made in Japan. It can't be a Katana. Um, it's not made a certain way. It can't be a Katana. Uh, it wasn't based. I've actually had someone, it wasn't made by someone Japanese. Therefore it can't be called a Katana.
00:40:36
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So I can't, does this also apply? You can't make a claymore if you're not Scottish. You can't make a karambit if you're not Indonesian. Like where does it end? You can't make a Fairband Sykes dagger if you're not English.
00:40:52
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Like, come on. Yeah, I don't get that. Yeah, it's, you know, I can, and my response to this particular comment was, I'll call it whatever I want. Thanks for watching. Bitch. No. That's a trip. Yeah. I mean, I guess you got to kind of get conditioned for that after you're, you know, you have a rather
00:41:17
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You don't have a small YouTube channel, right? I'm sure you've answered quite a few comments over the years, right? I mean, I answer every single comment, good or bad. Um, and you know, it does, you know, you try not to get jaded from some of them from answering too many of these in a row and you got to think back that 99.5% of comments are good, right? Yeah. Uh, it's the other ones and especially on the,
00:41:44
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you know, anything that has a real pop culture following like, you know, Japanese blades. We knew it going into the, uh, the samurai challenge, the last one, we knew that there was going to be some crazy comments. In fact, um, who was it?
00:42:05
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I think it was Justin Lamero from Rainy Day Forge said, I think it was Justin, said something like, just reply something like, I forget what he said, something about
00:42:18
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you know, go back to eating Hot Pockets in your mom's basement, watching video games or watching anime and playing video games, which I thought was pretty funny because, you know, let's face it, the vast majority of people that are commenting that kind of stuff have no actual knowledge. Their, their, their knowledge comes from watching whatever in search of anime here. I don't know that many animes, but do eating Hot Pockets and playing video games in the basement is fucking awesome. What's the matter with you?
00:42:50
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If you had a basement, you would still do it. It's true, I would. No offense to anyone out there eating Hot Pockets in their basement listening to our podcast. I don't take any offense to this.
00:43:07
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Yeah, that's that's that's crazy. Sometimes I it's
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really easy for us, you know, just scroll past and not have any connection to that stuff. So I could imagine it's it's kind of fear ready. Yeah, but hopefully the next the one next week will be a little more humorous than than those. Because those are just get kind of under your skin once in a while.
00:43:33
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure you, somebody's going to tell you, you can't put an animal in a drill or something, you know? Oh yeah. Oh, the King, the King of getting crazy comments. Is it fucking maniac machinists? No, well those, but I'm talking about Mr. Chris Powell at full steam designs. Oh yeah. He is the master of trolling, trolling those mothers. Yeah.
00:44:02
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When, when he did, and I know it's been talked about another podcast, but when he did that dry, poor cement, uh, yeah, or like just for fun, like, um, Austin at High Caliber Craftsman, when he, when he put the, uh, the Chuck in his lathe, you could see the steam coming out of the machinist's ears when he did that. Like,
00:44:28
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And my other favorite is just put an anvil on top of a, a mill and just people will go fucking crazy on why you shouldn't do that. Yeah. Yeah. Just cause I'm faster. Yeah. Oh yeah. Come on. YouTubers get, get interesting. I'm ready.
00:44:57
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Uh, so should we do our new maker spotlight? I think so. Yeah. Do it. Yeah. You're up. So yeah. All right. Cool. So, um, I think I was saying, I wasn't saying I'm about to say, I'm sorry. Um, so when I first started, I had made a post, uh, in tag, the WFI and, um,
00:45:24
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I think B Cone picked it up and ended up talking about it. And for me, man, it was as a new maker, it was the fucking coolest thing in the history of the world to hear, you know, somebody else talk about something that, you know, I had done. And then randomly I ended up getting on the podcast that day too, which is, I don't think it's happened since, but it was a cool, cool experience, man. So without trying to completely.
00:45:47
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you know, no hashtags involved here. I think it was just, it's an awesome idea to, and a good gestures here to kind of pick a, anybody doesn't have to be, you know, a newer person, but, um, somebody that, you know, Dennis and I are, you know, notice while we're cruising around the Instagram and kind of pick them up and shout them out and try to show them some love. So.
00:46:10
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Mine this week is gonna be a local guy here named Sean the Knife Guy, and I think that is his Instagram handle. And I've actually got to hang out with him a couple times, and I actually forged my very first Damascus billet with him that I'm working on. I'm finally making a knife out of it just now.
00:46:38
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But yeah, dude makes just absolutely killer, killer work, beautiful chef knives, makes his own Damascus, all these integral theme stuff. I'm just you got to check him out. I think he's got like 400 and something followers, which is a shame. I noticed this last week or two, he started
00:47:01
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doing some different kind of content, you know, trying to put it, put his face in front of the camera and, you know, kind of take that uncomfortable step of, you know, trying to show people who you are, you know, that there's somebody behind, you know, not just your hand, which is very helpful at Blade Show, by the way, guys, to show your face every now and again. Oh, yeah. Jeez. You get these people come up to me like, hey, you know, like show me your hands.
00:47:28
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And that's super awkward. So, you know, if I say it, you know, you don't understand what I'm saying. But yeah, go check out Sean. He does really, really awesome work. Good dude. And he actually motivates the shit out of me because I think he tries to make it like a knife a week or something. I think that's like his goal. Yeah. Because
00:47:54
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He just told me the other day that I had like a nerd, nerd job. I'm going to, I'm going to butchering it, but he called me a square cause I have like a nine to five job. Right. And he's like a sound engineer. Does all these traveling does shows all over the country and shit. So he's got like busy times and then a lot of downtime where he tries to bang out a bunch of stuff, but now he was pissed. Um,
00:48:13
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last year or something, but, you know, only hitting like 49 knives instead of, you know, 52. And I was like, get the fuck out of here, dude. But I mean, that, that suit, it's really motivating. So go check them out. Yeah. Sean, the knife guy, that's S H A U N Sean, Sean, the knife guy, and we'll put it down in the show notes. Yeah. And I'll, I'll blast it out on the, uh, IG too. Yeah.
00:48:41
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So I really just started trolling around Instagram looking at people that have followed me because I don't follow everyone back and I just started looking at people that had followed me in the last
00:48:57
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month or so, whatever, and I came across Asheville Crafted Edge. And when I first saw this, I actually thought it was one maker, but then I went to their website and it's actually a group of makers. And I thought this was a really cool idea. And I'm just going to read this little section, our makers on their website says, Crafted Edge is proud to host the
00:49:25
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The work of eight different regional knife makers, all within 400 miles of our shop located in Asheville, North Carolina, from blacksmiths, carpenters, metallurgists, and more. We strive to showcase and support the incredible craftsmanship of our region has to offer.
00:49:40
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So I thought that was really cool and a great idea for these guys to get together. It's not all guys, there's a girl on here, but great for these folks to get together and share their craft. So their IG is AVL, so AVL Crafted Edge.
00:50:05
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and again we'll put in the show notes but there's some some great chef knives and just some action shots um them in the shop and using tools and all kinds of stuff a lot of knife related stuff but really good stuff so go check them out right now they have 393 followers i think you guys should go take a look and if you're in the north carolina area i think you need to look these guys up go check them out
00:50:32
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So a v l crafted edge ashville crafted edge so go check them out. Yeah really cool really cool idea i'm just cruising through their page right now.
00:50:48
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Yeah. It's a good idea to put, uh, an Instagram up that is, uh, you know, it's not just Instagram. It's their whole website of, uh, of all these makers. So that's interesting. I hadn't seen anybody do that before. Um, kind of a maker space. Um, you know, yeah, that's the term I was looking for. That's really cool. Great idea. I
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like that. I'm checking them out. You better.
00:51:20
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So I'm going to take this opportunity and talk about our first sponsor. So do a little read for them. So Frank over at Frank Machado over at
00:51:34
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two bastards, Smithy and Supplies, hammer maker extraordinaire. Frank told me how many hammers he makes a year and it's like in the 400 range, like crazy. He's making more than a hammer a day.
00:51:56
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from every kind of hammer he loves restoring hammers, likes to buy antique hammers and re-handle them and just to all kinds of amazing stuff. My go-to hammer now is a straight peen from Frank. So if you're looking to get a hammer for forging, for whatever,
00:52:18
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Go check him out. He's two bastards hammers on IG and you can also find them on Facebook. If you just search for two bastards with an ERD bastards at the end, you'll find them on Facebook and we'll have links in the show notes as well. So go give him some love and yeah, go grab yourself a hammer. Nice. Nice.
00:52:48
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I can't wait. I can't wait. What other news do we have Jared? Tell me. Yeah. So in some weird bizarro world, uh, we have a new sponsor on board. Um, I don't know if you guys have heard of, uh, this guy, but, uh, he has a knife supply company, um, out of Canada and his name is, uh, Lawrence from maritime knife supply.
00:53:18
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You heard of him?
00:53:23
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Yeah. Can you believe it? Uh I'm so excited. I can't believe that uh number one, we have two sponsors. That's like Crazy Town and uh the fact that uh Lawrence has jumped on board. He's already a sponsor of um my weekly Triple T videos. So, it's great that he's jumped over the podcast as well. So, uh yeah, absolutely. Just awesome. Really, really appreciative. Thanks, Lawrence and you know, if you need
00:53:52
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Uh, adventures, go check out maritime knife supply. You got fast shipping, steel handles, grinders, heat treating, abrasives, everything you need. And Lawrence is a knife maker himself. So he, uh, he knows what's up. And if he doesn't know what's up, he knows who to contact to go find out what's up. So that's right. Come to maker camp and you can forge a knife with Lawrence. That was my very first forging. That was awesome.
00:54:23
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In fact, I had to tag, there was a guy on a Facebook post on one of the groups and he said, I guess he had dropped all his, he had cut up steel for Damascus, 1080, 15 and 20. And I guess it was all the same thickness and dropped it all on the floor.
00:54:41
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And, uh, and I said, well, you should have just got it from maritime knife supply because, uh, Lawrence cuts your steel to length for you and labels every single piece, every piece, every piece. So if you drop it, assuming you didn't drop it before you, uh, you surface grounded, but even if you did, there's colors on the ends.
00:55:03
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That's true. You're right. He does call to the ends as well. So that's right. Yeah. Idiot proof. Save your, save yourself, save yourself a headache and get your steal from maritime knife split. That's right. For all your knife making needs go to maritime knife supply. All right. Thanks Lawrence. He's the best. I agree. So you got a note here on
00:55:31
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Inspiration and influence spelled wrong by the way. Um, what was that comment? What was that, uh, in our show notes, Jared? What's spelled wrong? Your or the slash? Well, influences is supposed to have an M in it. It doesn't. I'm looking at it. Uh, look again, fucker. Oh, you're pulling my trick of editing the notes.
00:56:03
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So we have a Google Doc where we put notes for the show so we can, you know, talk about things and make it sound like we know what we're doing. And Jared was typing the note yesterday about a lot of support for the IG account. And, you know, he didn't realize how much work it was going to be. And as he was typing it, I put a comment at the beginning of his comment that said, damn right, bitch.
00:56:29
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It was live. I was looking at, it was happening. And I was like, why does, why am I saying Dennis is this mother? That was pretty good. That was a good one. But, um, yeah, so yeah, I think last week I was just thinking about, I was curious about who like, I know that like for myself, um,
00:56:55
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influence inspired by too many to name, you know, it's, it's, you know, when you're new, it's really easy to kind of, you know, just grab at all of this information, like this data overload, you know, that you're, you're engulfing yourself with. But I was curious, like, well, you know, for someone at your,
00:57:18
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experience and where you're at. Uh, like who, where do you get influence or I say influence because of Fader dude. So he's going to, he's going to, he's going to let us know when we say it's fire. Yeah. So who are you copying, Dennis?
00:57:37
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I've done a bunch of things lately. Inspired influence, whatever, by Josh Prince. I did the Starry Cosmos. That's a direct influence from Josh, him doing the plug welded Damascus. And he helped me with the stainless Damascus. I haven't been completely successful yet, but I will.
00:58:04
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Um, but that's just lately. I mean, I think as a overall style, you know, when I started, it was kind of like the YouTubers and like, there's the YouTube side where I learned things.
00:58:17
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But as far as like today, you know, people like, like when I look at a knife profile or I look at the pattern or something like that, the people that kind of inspire me the most probably Kyle Royer. You know, I still watch his videos all the time. He's working on this amazing Griffin sword. And I still think his
00:58:41
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Excelsior sword and the one he did before that are just incredible like amazing totally up my alley. I love his finished work. So that's kind of my biggest influence is Kyle because it's most like the style that I appreciate like it's the style I appreciate the most.
00:59:01
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Right. I really love Curtis Hallen's profiles. I think his knives are super sexy looking. I just love the curves and the profile in his knives.
00:59:14
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Yeah. I mean, those, you know, there's a lot of, um, as far as just Damascus patterns, I mean, you have to appreciate Merco and just the Salem Salem course. Um, like those two guys are like Damascus wizards. So you got to, you got to appreciate those guys.
00:59:34
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But as far as the whole overall package of, cause I don't do a lot of culinary knives. Um, I like, you know, the glitzier. I think it's glitzier. Don't hate me. I think it's glitzier. The art knives, the, um, you know, the crazy swords with all the engraving and the inlay and all that shit. I love that. You make your own bed, dude. You're doing that all on your own.
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I get it. You have what does it for you. I'll tell you what, one of the coolest moments that I had was having the opportunity to watch you hand one of your knives over to Kyle.
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at the show and it's be a fly on the wall to watch that eccentric brain go, you know, meticulous on your work and just watch it. You squirm like a normal human being. It was fucking awesome. And I got, I got some pictures of it and, uh, but that was really cool. You know, I mean, you talk about, you know, you don't ever want to meet your heroes, but you know,
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Yeah. When you have the opportunity to see, to have that moment and you know, you're just, you know, and you got a good feedback, dude. So that was good. That was the dagger from the dagger challenge we did. And, uh, yeah, I mean, and at that point it's like, I just hope it lives up to like, not that he has any expectations. I think it was the,
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first time he'd ever come over and looked at my table, that kind of thing. But, you know, you don't want to, you don't want him to think that, you know, it looks like a turd or something. But, um, yeah. So thankfully you gave him that dagger cause that dagger's fucking awesome. It's one of my favorite things you've ever done that,
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That was the old dagger. And the way he saw the other dagger last year, the ocean sunset dagger, which he appreciated as well. So, yeah, it was cool. I like the ocean one. Yeah, me too. That's still my favorite. That's my favorite. That's a badass. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, no, I think that's good because we're all pulling from something, right? We're all getting
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inspired and influenced by, uh, you know, uh, so many people, you know, like right now I'm, you know, I started this journey with, you know, little folder knives, you know, that's why I still, you know, we went to blade show when I bought a Spyderco pair of three BLEM.
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which is, you know, uh, a second, it had some kind of flaw in it for like a hundred bucks or something. And I was like, Oh, that's, that's bitch. And then I got a Lynch Northwest clip on it. Now I just, uh, a whole bunch of words. I don't even know what they mean. Baseball. That too. But that's where, that's how this all started for me. Now I'm sitting around and I've got all these fucking knives around and quit hitting your mic with it.
01:02:51
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I just slammed it on the table. Okay. So, uh, we did, uh, or no, we did, but like the EDC community is, you know, what we got me going is sure. Yeah, absolutely. Art guys were really not weird. Uh, anyways.
01:03:12
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Touche. So, you know, that's where I started making knives, because I just wanted to make little EDC knives. And, you know, I've kind of gotten away from that into the more culinary kind of knives is kind of where I'm living right now. And I'm just, you know, like I said, a particular person right now, I don't really have it. I'm just pulling from like everything and trying to admire and
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And, uh, you know, learn as much as I can from all this stuff. But like right now, the, uh, knife that, um, Noah from any, um, river just put out that integral feather. Beautiful. Holy crap, dude. Beautiful. Really good.
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Oh man, he put this picture just to bolster, or not to bolster the interval. And I was just like, oh, it is.
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Really, really good work, dude. And I think there was another one that I had. Yeah. Really, really good. Um, and then Leon Shanks from, uh, what is it? Two birds or two fingers? That's two fingers. Yeah. He just did a, and I've had like this, uh, checkered edge bar on a, on a chef knife with, uh, and a Damascus pattern on there. I just kind of scrolled through and was like,
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and stopped and I was like, man. So, um, good work guys. And you know, obviously all the, all the monsters here, Josh's and the Marekos and you know, everybody else that's killing it, but. Yeah. Leon's not a bunch of those knives with the, the checkered edge bar. That's like a thing for him.
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I know that's first one I saw. Maybe I've been late to the game, but that thing is bad ass. Oh no, there's three of them. There's a set of no three or four more than that. Like it's like five of them here. So yeah, he did a, got a little bug up his ass about doing the checkerboard, but I'm digging it. I love it. Yeah, that's a good bug. Yeah, it looks good. And I will tell you guys that while you're
01:05:30
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Micah Dunn from MD edge works too. So it's really not a good idea to record a podcast and have Instagram up because for someone like me, so I'm going to minimize that because I'm getting sidetracked like a mug. Oh, some good knives out there. Now I'm anxious to see the pattern on this Viking Viking sword thing. I still haven't decided if I'm going to do edge bars on this thing.
01:06:01
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If I have enough steel, I may not do the edge bars because they're a pain in the ass. How could you not have enough steel that bill? It's like fucking 40 pounds. You should see it now. It's not 40 pounds anymore. It was a monster. Yeah. I mean, you do a couple of restacks and you cut the ends off and you know, I'll know when I tile it because the edge bar has got to come after the tiling, but, um, we'll see. We'll see.
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Cause uh, doing, yeah, I don't really want to do another forging session after the tiling, except
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01:06:38
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for like drawing it out and shaping this sword. So I don't know. I'm thinking I'll, I don't know. It'll be a short sword. If I don't have enough, I don't think I'm going to do the edge bars, but we'll see. That's crazy. You lose that much steel.
01:06:55
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Yeah, and this is the first time that I've kept all of the scale, cause I swept up all of the scale after every forge session and all the cutoffs and everything. I have it in a big bucket. So I'm going to weigh it. I'm going to show the camera during the video and I'm going to weigh it after. So everyone gets to see the amount of waste that you go through on a build like this. That's a cool idea. Yeah.
01:07:24
Speaker
Someday I want to get one of those little chess clocks, you know, like you can do start and stop, but it's got to go up to like, because I really want to be able to do build and every time I start, I just hit the clock and when I'm done, I hit the clock.
01:07:44
Speaker
and have it start and stop. But all of the ones that I've seen only go up to like 19 hours, some weird thing, like nine hours or 19 hours or something. I want one that goes up to like a hundred hours, but I can't find one because it's not easy. I'm not going to do it. You don't have a phone. Yeah, but then I got to hit it every time. And I got to like find it. You have to hit the chest clock too. I'm lazy. I want a little hard. I'm fucking with you.
01:08:14
Speaker
Yeah, no, that would be cool to find out, you know, how long are you actually, I mean, it's like the fishermen and hunter tails, right? We would probably add in a couple hours to every, I think I'm, I'm not accounting for a lot of hours. Like maybe you, yeah. You spend an hour grinding ice while I was waiting for the forge to heat up. I have like surface ground. One of the knives, I probably spent half an hour surface grinding the thing. I probably won't remember that I spent that.
01:08:44
Speaker
Yeah, you're, you're right. Yeah. Angle grinding, forge scale. Yeah. Fuck, man. Hey, you're onto something. Yeah. So the, um, the rapid quench was a maiden voyage was a success. Um, although I fucking anyways, I messed up my plates, the way I mounted it and, uh, had a little, little issue, but, uh,
01:09:14
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The plates themselves, they fucking kicked ass, dude. We treated. Yeah. I remember I was saying, I wasn't quite sure how everything had happened. Uh, but what I was found out was that, um, I kind of stopped using them after like, I think it was four or six knives. I started temp gunning the, uh, the plates, um, and fast realized that I don't know what the actual critical temperature is when you're quite clenching. Like how cool do they actually have to be?
01:09:45
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I think they got to be under 200 degrees. Like they should be down around probably close to a hundred degrees, I would imagine. So I don't know that answer and I don't, and I'm actually, uh, I was talking with Brent from bald man and I think it's higher than we all think it is.
01:10:04
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Um, because I was Timpkin, the plates were never above 200, um, and somewhere in the low 100s with, you know, kind of keeping the air on cracked a little bit. Um, but what I, he treated eight knives with, with my buddy, um,
01:10:22
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last weekend and I just tested them at your house today while you were upstairs working for the first time ever in your life. And they all came out, you know, 61, 62, 61. I mean, just got constant. Like it was the most consistent readings that I'd got out of a, I've never, he treated that many stainless. This is AEBL, but so, um,
01:10:52
Speaker
They're badass. And this is after temper, right? This is after temper. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. I didn't temper him. So I, I think they, he said he put him under for three 50 at two hours. So I don't know. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. But, um, yeah, so that's cool. I think I'm going to remount them in the, uh, I have him,
01:11:18
Speaker
This way, vertical, vertical. And that's the pain of the button. It's not easy. It's not easy. Yeah. You need extra hand that way. Pretty much. Yeah. Or something. I know a couple of people have it. Um, that's why I saw, I think it was, uh, I'm not going to remember, but anyways, I've seen it in that orientation. Um, and M and it could work, but with the foil packets, um, the little lip,
01:11:46
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If you're not, I didn't think about it, right? So the little lip was kept getting caught and then that's when you need another set of hands. Luckily I did, but still it was like burning precious time, you know, and that shit's kind of hot too when you're putting them in a plate. So, um, I think I'm going to go to the other traditional way. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, cause we had this discussion last time I use the Condersal. So I want to be able to do two knives at the same time. The small ones. Condora.
01:12:15
Speaker
I'm sorry, guys. They're never going to be a sponsor now. I know. It really is condersal, but yeah. If I ever do a katana, I'm going to make sure I really highlight the septic.
01:12:34
Speaker
Oh man, you're going to make me laugh. Did I send you that video? Did I text you that? You did. Yeah, that's right. What do you call this septuku? You tell me what the real name is. Sapuku? Is that what you're trying to say?
01:12:55
Speaker
they off themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Sepuku. You call it septic. It's the septic. There's no other word for it. But anyways, um, and then, uh, before we get out of here, dude, I fuck one of the hardest things to do for nine months was to keep my mouth shut about what we saw at the foundry. Right. Yep. And, uh,
01:13:25
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Our boy Brian over at housemate is finally pushing it out now. Yeah. The tsunami. I saw the videos. Yep. So, uh, you know, the three by 79, um, upgrade to your revolution grinder. Um, it's, it's going to be a thing here pretty quick, man. We got the opportunity to use that, uh, while we were over, um, hanging out with the, with the foundry crew. Um,
01:13:52
Speaker
And I'm excited, man. Yeah. It's really, I mean, I think maybe my point when I look at that thing, I'm like, that's for culinary, like the culinary knife guys should stand up and look at that because the, any kind of full flat grind like that, that's where it really, really shines. Cause it's a totally different way to grind a knife. That's what it's meant for.
01:14:17
Speaker
But it operates in all the other the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're the same. And there's nothing wrong with a like the three inches probably the
01:14:29
Speaker
I could see some benefit in having a little wider belt for... Yeah, it depends on the knife you do. Depends on the knife you do. If you have a three inch knife, it's probably not the best. Well, yeah, if you're making karamets, that's not what you want. There you go. But putting the grinder down and then...
01:14:48
Speaker
running it actually in reverse. And then grinding the whole blade of the knife at the same time the way this is how the traditional Japanese would still grind knives today. They don't grind up and down. They don't grind like we do where it's edge up, where the grind lines are going perpendicular to the blade.
01:15:14
Speaker
They're grinding with the whole blade on the knife for their and that's what the tsunami is meant for. Yeah, at least the original conception of it. But yeah, you're right. You can use it for anything. And you could swap the two by 72 belt right on it. All you do is put the other
01:15:32
Speaker
Um, the other plant on it and Bob's your uncle. Yep. I do know that one. Oh, I was testing you there. And to be honest with you, I just heard that one, like not too long ago. Jeff says that all the time. I'm like, who the fuck is Bob? I think we have a new bit. Uh, the stump Jared was saying a bit.
01:16:00
Speaker
I guess. I mean, you guys are real creative, I guess. But, um, yeah, so, um, yeah, I was over at, um, my buddy Nick Rollins a couple of weeks back when we were forging, um, that knife, uh, I was working on and he was talking to me about his process and I was just like, Oh,
01:16:24
Speaker
I actually called, you know, I called Brian and I had sent messages and I was like, dude, can I, can I say something about this? Cause like, this is a perfect opportunity right now. And I couldn't get old anybody. So I ended up not, not saying anything, but it's never revolution, does he? Um, no, he doesn't, but that would have been extra special. Yeah, that would have been cool. But, uh, yeah, so I'm excited to see where this goes.
01:16:51
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of machines, the, the sander is
01:16:58
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Parts are getting machined. We're close. Everything's designed. I got the parts out for CNC machining. The only thing left is finding someone to do the motor enclosure, which I think your buddy Jeff, I've heard from him today, and he can do sheet metal.
01:17:23
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So, he'll give me a quote on that thing. There's nothing he can't do. We're looking at maybe an April, May release of the hand sanding machine. So, stay tuned folks. That's awesome. Yeah. I'm excited. You should be. Scared. I'm excited. And excited. Yeah. I'll be putting my son Parker to work for sure. Yeah.
01:17:54
Speaker
I'm excited to get that thing back, uh, over to my. Yeah. You got to pick up the other prototype. Uh, the first prototype you got to pick up and put it through its paces. Yep. And, uh, Hey, we still got to get together and, uh, book our flights and hotel for blade. I want to do that this week. Three months, three months, man, three months, uh, less than three months. Now it's March 4th. Fuck.
01:18:24
Speaker
Yeah, I'm a start Marty. Yeah. Well, it's exciting. We're going to do the countdown. How many, how many days to blade show? That'll be a thing in every episode, uh, coming up. There you go. I like it. Yeah. All right, man.
01:18:43
Speaker
I think that's it. I think that's it. I'm tired. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I'm just tired of talking to you. That's when we started. Oh man. All right. I'm hitting the button. Good deal. Do it.
01:19:14
Speaker
And that's a wrap.