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E5: The cat's ass
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On the podcast today we'll talk about all the dumb shit that's in our heads, forging, getting stabbed and some thank you's. Jerid learns what the cat's ass is, plus Jerid never reads this so I might as well put whatever I want, right? Tune in and hear us banter.
We'd love to hear from you so send in questions to the show Instagram: @the.tttpodcast
Your hosts:
Denis Tyrell of Tyrell Knifeworks: https://www.instagram.com/tyrellknifeworks/
https://www.youtube.com/c/TyrellKnifeworks
https://www.tyrellknifeworks.com
Jerid Sandoval of Echo Blades:
https://www.instagram.com/echo_blades/
Links related to things we discussed:
Frank Machado, Two Basterds Smithing:
@twobasterdshammers
Viking Challenge Announce Video: https://youtu.be/YwhSvLk-ryQ?si=kyJsfchqxWeIJwO4
Viking Challenge Viewer Instructions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NRcKaNBRCLQFAdiKIChWfcgkvvZ7qrhIgScYBy_NL7U/edit?usp=sharing
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- Work For It
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Transcript
Introduction to the Triple T Podcast
00:00:16
Speaker
What's up everybody. This is Jared from echo blades and you're listening to the triple T podcast for knife makers. As always, I have my co-host Dennis Terrell from Terrell knife works. How the hell are you buddy? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I had a great weekend. Very productive. What about you? What'd you do all weekend? I actually had a weekend in the shop. I'm fired up from getting something done rather than nothing. So.
00:00:46
Speaker
It was good. Good. Yeah. What was the something? Come on. The key. No. Well, shit. So today.
Knife Heat Treatment Techniques
00:00:57
Speaker
I had my buddy Derek from Miles Knife and Tool. Guys go check him out. Newer maker. Good dude. Solid dude. He came over and he wanted to heat treat some AVL knives for the first time.
00:01:15
Speaker
So I got to do that with him and we tried out the rapid quench system. Oh, yeah. That was its maiden voyage. And really cool. Still got a lot to learn with using it because. It still gets hot as shit.
00:01:41
Speaker
Even though the air's blowing out, you know, I think we, I did too many knives too fast in a row. Um, but, and then when we put it together, I had a little bit of a, uh, like a flop of the plate on what side of the vice that it goes on, uh, the way we mounted it, we had to replace some screws, uh, for a little more depth or longer, I should say. And, um, something went wrong. So one of the play, I think the, we stripped the,
00:02:10
Speaker
threads on there. Anyways, it came loose. It wasn't a catastrophe because everything got back in place and we were able to continue on heat treating, but lessons learned, experiences, stories to tell. That's what it's all about. So between, I don't know, besides what Brian showed us in the shop, I don't know a ton about those. Like I know you put the air on while you got the blade in them. Between blades,
00:02:39
Speaker
Do you, are you supposed to run the air through them to cool them down? Like, is there a video on this to how to use them? No, I, I'm not aware of one. Um, but my compressor was, uh, all day long the whole time we were doing it. It, it definitely took it to the capacity. Um, but it's still, I mean, we were heat gunning it and the first couple it stayed somewhere around 70, 80 degrees. And then it kinda started getting a warm.
00:03:09
Speaker
So I did a little bit of both. I put some ice on them. I left the air running for a while. I switched to my other my old point plate system to kind of break it up a little bit. But cool. Yeah,
Teaching Knife-Making Classes
00:03:23
Speaker
definitely. Yeah. Yeah, we got them done. And it definitely it's a lot easier than just getting the deal arrows out and blowing it on there. So nice. How many how many total knives did you do? We did eight.
00:03:40
Speaker
eight. Yeah. Nice. And I figured out that I never want to use the foil packets again. So, Kaldura, here I come. No. Condersal. Same thing. Yeah. You got one letter, right? It'll forever be Kondura, whatever the hell Kondura is.
00:04:10
Speaker
Oh, well, that's good. Good. Um, I taught a class all weekend, which was a great class. Uh, I gotta say, um, it was, um, first time I've taught a class for a woman and she did great. Like, I think the knife that came out of this class and, uh, her husband has already taken a class with me, so he might be listening. So don't take this the wrong way. But I think that knife.
00:04:40
Speaker
that she made is the best one to come out of a class that I've done. Boom. Boom. Like Mike drop. It was she, she really got the, I learned a few things today, meaning how to teach. Like it's great. Cause it's going to be in my upcoming video when I do grinding on the beginner series knife. We'll talk about that in a bit, but, um, I saw the light go on in
00:05:09
Speaker
her face when she was doing the grinding. And if I show you the knife, I don't have it obviously, but the grinds are awesome. That's cool. For someone who has never ground a knife before, the edge was probably at maybe 20,000th thick. That's awesome. The whole blade. That's awesome. No facet. I was blown away. But there's some tips that
00:05:38
Speaker
you know, things that I thought to tell her while she was doing it, because I could see her doing a mistake, and then see her reaction and, and her success was very rewarding for me today. So she was able to like, receive
Leatherwork Challenges and Projects
00:05:54
Speaker
how you the corrections and apply them and exactly that's what it's like, I'm like, I saw her go up to the the belt on like a
00:06:05
Speaker
very steep angle, like she was going to put another fasten in the blade. And I said, No, no, don't do this. And I basically told her, you know, this is where she's whatever she's going right to left, or she's using her left hand. So with her thumb, and I'm like, Okay, push, push with your thumb and then let go with the other hand, because she kept on wanting to tilt the blade into the grinder. So I said,
00:06:33
Speaker
put the blade against the belt, let go so you're only pushing in the center with your thumb. It has no choice but to be on that flat facet. And then pick up the blade with two fingers and then pull it along and you'll make no pressure. And that just, and I could see her do it. I could see her let go with her hand and then pick it up again and then slide it. And it was phenomenal.
00:07:03
Speaker
Uh, watching her do it and it was, it was cool. I was very happy. It was a really good looking blade. That's probably because she didn't give a shit and she just was doing it. You know, I think no nerves, you know, maybe she just, you know, no apprehension, no, just whatever happens happens. And then boom, that's cool, man. Yeah. It was, it was, it was fun weekend. So, uh, and she was done early. Um, you know, we, we even made a leather sheath. Like that's how quickly she went through the class.
00:07:32
Speaker
we had time to do a leather sheath for a knife. So that doesn't happen very often. Cool. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Speaking of leather sheath I got I had forgot but I had ordered some leather I think eight to 10 ounce or something I was talking to you about it and it came and I just put it over to the side because leather is something that
00:07:55
Speaker
We did that one time and I ended up selling that knife with the sheath. So my example is gone. Cause like, I don't know.
00:08:10
Speaker
I learned a lot by having something that I've done, whether it's phenomenal or really shitty. Like I can remember the process, remember the little things, the steps and everything, but it's gone. My, my retention is whoop. So, um, but, uh, Derek ended up bringing me some leather, uh, himself, which is really cool. Thank you so much. That was awesome. Um, and a couple other cool little, uh, things, a little, um,
00:08:39
Speaker
I'm not gonna be able to describe this but a little holder for the tooling things though. Oh, really? Yeah, so it's got its own little it's got its own little holder, you know, each individual one goes in there. That was pretty cool. And then we at the end, we were waiting for because our my cryo is to stick the knives in the freezer. And the
00:09:12
Speaker
Shit. It's gone. I think someone's behind me. Hi, Jared. Yeah. Jared Jr.
00:09:24
Speaker
Okay, so we were doing the thing we had some time to kill while the knives were in my cryo, my doer, a freezer. Your poor man do it. Yeah, the poor man do it. And so I've been thinking about and talking about doing a prototype for the the intrepid.
00:09:48
Speaker
And I want to do one for the thicker clipper that I got. So we messed around and Derek sent some really good leather work and he kind of just we just laid it out and did a little prototype and you know, no stitching, no dyeing, no glue, no nothing. Oh, you did with rivets with Chicago screws. Oh, okay, cool. Because the the eyelets I have for kydex were tall enough. But I was able to put the little
00:10:19
Speaker
Ulti clip on there and I don't know. I'm gonna mess around with it and see it and go But you burn it all too Tried it very very quickly. I mean we did it. We just threw it together real quick But that's why I was saying like everything that we did all the processes and shit started coming coming back to me and then I realized why It's cool and then it's not cool because there's a lot of shit you gotta do
00:10:45
Speaker
And we didn't die. Like I said, we didn't die or anything. So, you know, no cement. So all those kind of steps were just like going in and out. You know, I'm like, I got a lot to learn there. I got to make another sheath for a buddy this week. So, you know, maybe we hook up. You can watch that one. Yeah, no, I'm I'm into that. Cool, cool. Mega fuck ton of leather. I feel like right now from what I bought and what he gave me, so.
00:11:14
Speaker
Yeah. I had a double shoulder that I ordered that I realized today is the first time I cut into it. So I got a ton of leather too.
Heat Treatment Insights and Methods
00:11:23
Speaker
So nice. Yeah. Question for you. Yeah. We're heat treating the AEBL. So I have everything programmed into my even heat, the tap controller.
00:11:39
Speaker
Is it necessary to normalize that? Like I mean, I've been going back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. Like I keep going back and forth because for stock removal, you know,
00:11:57
Speaker
It's kind of necessary. I mean, the way I understand it from my time with the interwebs and Mr. Dr. Warren is that, you know, when you anneal it, you increase its hardenability through the process, but there's no grain refinement or thermal cycle. Well, here's the deal. So in the ABL that I got from, I don't think it matters where you get it, but last time I got it from Lawrence, when I was
00:12:26
Speaker
the video I was testing the condersal. So I just, sorry, I'm sorry, dickhead. Recording that took me forever because I actually thought I would shortcut it, not do the annealment. And then when I tested with condersal, with foil, I was getting radically different measurements.
00:12:57
Speaker
And I think it was cause it wasn't, one of the factors was it wasn't annealed. Um, and after I annealed it first, I was getting much more consistent readings on the HRC. So now I'm of a mind of, I'm always going to anneal them. And now, especially when I have like water jet blanks, when I have some free time, I just throw, you know,
00:13:25
Speaker
three or four of them, whatever, in the oven and after the condersal, anneal them, set them aside, put them in a pile and I just write on them annealed. So I'm just now in a habit of doing that so that they don't, I've got them all annealed and I don't have to worry about it.
00:13:42
Speaker
That is very efficient, Mr. Tyrell. Hey, try to be. That is very efficient. I wish I had that ability to forward think that way. And I only say that because, you know, a dude came over and we were, you know, going to heat treat. I had some things that I wanted to do as well, but I didn't really think about it. That shit takes a long time. Yeah. For ABL. It's not it's a. It's a while.
00:14:11
Speaker
And the nice thing is for the annealment, you can put like eight or 10 of them in there. You don't need, so I do a whole batch of like annealing because you don't need to put it in the, you know, you're not putting them in the, the plates or anything like that. So I kneel all the ones that you have. If again, I'm, because I got a bunch of water jet, right? I'll anneal all the ones that I have in one batch. Yeah. So I don't have to screw with it later. I know they're done.
00:14:40
Speaker
Then I'll, I'll be ready. Yeah. Think ahead Jared. Think ahead. I tried. And that, you know, what else I didn't think about was trying to pull eight packets out and hang them in midair with like an anti-gravity room. Cause I didn't have clamps in like places. It was a, it was fun. I enjoyed it. Uh, yeah, that's rubber off of clamps and shit to, you know, pinch the foils and it was interesting.
00:15:10
Speaker
And that's why I'm a big fan of the condersal because all my knives have holes in them anyway. So then I can just hang them anywhere. I hang them on the little hooks. It's a lot easier. And now, instead of using foil on the little EDCs, I can heat treat two of those at the same time because they don't take up room. I could almost do three in the plates.
00:15:38
Speaker
because there's no foil taken about. There's no foil taken up extra room, right? So you could just slide three of them in there and then heat treat them. That's Yeah, it's just Yeah, we were I had to phone a friend about trying to heat treat two in a pack. And we were I was discussing you know, they should be identical if you're going to put them in the pack together, right? Why? Why?
00:16:05
Speaker
Well, because if they hang over, you get, you know, some, oh, warp, you get, you know, just, I mean, it's just like, you mean, like, they don't need to be identical knives. You just mean they need to be about, I think they should be identical knives. But yeah, I mean, closer to, you know, the same. But again, your preferences, processes to each his own type of thing. But I couldn't convince myself that that was a good thing to try. Because he's just there to try to get them done. But
00:16:35
Speaker
Yeah. The whole foil package and trying to get the right size fucking pack, dude. Oh my God. It takes forever to fold those things. And not to mention the razor blade that is the edge of those foil packs. And I've heard, you know, I've heard Fader talk about it. He doesn't mind it. I'm like, I fucking hate it. I hate doing those foil packs and you're not supposed to reuse them because they break down and all that's, you know, so you're making a new one for every blade.
00:17:04
Speaker
I'm like, that's bullshit. The Condersal takes a quarter, not even like a 10th of the time because I could just use a heat gun and dry it off. So it's very economical and quick. Your shop does smell like paint fumes for days, but- That's all I get these days.
00:17:30
Speaker
That's your entertainment. That's my entertainment. Yeah. Get
Community Engagement and Feedback
00:17:34
Speaker
a little fuzzy. Oh, uh, so before we go on, I want to send out a couple, again, a couple of big thank yous. Um, all of the, it is astounding to me, the feedback and the mentions of our podcast that we've had. So hustle and grind.
00:17:58
Speaker
full blast like two episodes Jeff has called us out and and told people to listen I'm super thankful uh Jared just about had a conniption after hearing his name on knife talk for real um at fordside chat WFI I'm sure I'm forgetting some others but um thank you everybody for uh you know giving us some love and um
00:18:26
Speaker
It's been amazing. I can't believe it. Absolutely. 100% just absolutely overwhelmed. Super grateful. It's awesome to have, you know, the great, the good feedback, but just the support, you know, to feel like there's guys in your corner because I swear I never woke up and thought I'd be sitting here talking and having other people listen to me. So, and to hear my fucking full name,
00:18:52
Speaker
is weird guys. It's fucking weird. And I don't know if I'll get used to it, but Jared Sandoval, I'm like, whoa, am I going to the fucking principal's office or something? You know, like, I feel like I'm in trouble, but it's super cool. Yeah. That's when your mom calls you and uses your full name. You know, you're in trouble. Yeah. But I'm like, I'm used to, you know, I had Jared from echo blades here and there, you know, but, uh, yeah, it's, it's been really awesome. Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Even having, uh, well, who is it? Noah busted my balls about how complicated the email was.
00:19:21
Speaker
Uh, which I agree. I agree. No, I said the same shit. Okay. We're ditching the email and my boy Jared here has created an IG account because I refuse to. So he is going to be the master of the IG account. So tell everybody what the podcast Instagram account is. Well, if I could remember it, that would be awesome. But no, it's, uh, the.
00:19:51
Speaker
Triple T podcast on IG. So, um, I haven't pushed it out yet. Um, but I will, and shit, just from creating it, we got a few followers already. So, um, but yeah, that's where we'll make it easy for the rest of the world, uh, to, you know, talk instead of trying to pull out your, uh, Enigma deciphering code to fucking.
00:20:17
Speaker
Oh man.
Blade Show Texas and Related Events
00:20:19
Speaker
Now, now people are going to go to the show notes and look up the email and start sending us hate mail. I sure hope they will. Cause that would be awesome. Cause if they do, then they would have found the U-boat. Okay. All right. Fine. Um, so what, oh, so we got to mention blade show Texas, even though neither of us went, um, the, uh,
00:20:46
Speaker
a little bit of FOMO, a little bit. I'm seeing all the pictures, wishing I would have gone, but knowing I couldn't, I didn't really want to spend the money to go this year. Um, for me, this was a thing that I used to do with my son. The last two years I would take Parker to blade show Texas. So some of you have met my son Parker this year, Parker's coming to Atlanta. Um, so, um, I kind of thought,
00:21:13
Speaker
Maybe I'll save some money and not go to Texas, but some, some FOMO did kick in. I'll be honest. Yeah. No, I looked like a good time. I totally meant to put a post out wishing everybody good luck and all our boys out there doing their thing. Um, it looked great. Um, I've never been to the show. Um, that's the only one that I haven't been to, but I hear it's, it's, it's a really good show. It's a good time. Um, so I'm hoping everybody killed it and, uh, maybe next year.
00:21:43
Speaker
Yeah, it is good show. And there's Texas, a lot of good old boys in Texas, a lot of the masters in Texas, and a lot of people go to that show. There was, I think, like the Utah show, yeah, there was a couple of mastersmiths, but there was a shit ton of mastersmiths at the Texas show every year. So if you're thinking about testing for journeymen
00:22:12
Speaker
and you wanna show people knives, that's a great show to go to. Because you go there, show people knives, you still got four months to fix up all the screw ups in your knives or make new knives before Blade Show Atlanta. So that's always my advice to people is go to Blade, Texas to get feedback. Now a good tip, good tip. I'm kinda bummed because I'll be,
00:22:39
Speaker
in the Fort Worth Dallas area in I think three weeks. So I just missed it for work and I'll be there for a week and but whatever. Tough shit. There's I love that there's a little downtown area which is like a block two blocks from from where the convention center is and it's one of those. It's a section of the road that you can't you can't drive cars on. It's like just walking only and
00:23:09
Speaker
Really cool. Maybe it was just closed at that. No, I don't remember. No, I think it is closed traffic. But it's cool though. They have bands out there. We were sitting out there at night having a drink or some food and there was band playing. It was really cool.
00:23:26
Speaker
Yeah, I
Etching Processes and Tools
00:23:27
Speaker
sent some of my guys from work for training. Our AFSA facility is out there. And so I've got a couple of scouting reports for things to go check out when I go in a couple of weeks. So I'm stoked. Nice. Cool, cool. So what else is going on? I got another random question.
00:23:53
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yep. So I was messing around on the interwebs Facebook and on the that big account. I can't remember beginner bladesmiths or bladesmithing beginners. Yeah, that one. And somebody asked if they should heat up gator piss and ferric. I've heard that I don't do it.
00:24:22
Speaker
But I've heard, I've seen people do it and it will etch faster. That's just science, right? It will etch faster if you heat it up. I don't do it because seems like a pain in the ass to me. Because you'd have to put it on like, like a heating element somehow or I don't know, it just seems complicated to me to be heated up. I guess you could put a
00:24:49
Speaker
Put something in the oven and yeah, immerse it or something like that. But I don't know. It goes fast enough without doing it. But if you want it to go faster, I guess you could heat it. And I have seen posts of people that do. Yeah, I just could. I've never seen it. And, you know, I was like, maybe I should tell this. And then I start reading the comments. I was like, oh, I'm a dumbass because I don't know anything about this. I was a well-known maker saying that that's part of their process. And I was like, hmm. Well, I never thought of it. I just put the bubbler in now.
00:25:19
Speaker
Since, you know, fucking expert because I just found out what an oxide was last week. I love it. I guess you could get a little hot. But what I want to get, especially for videos, which I can't believe it's this many years I haven't gotten one, is a clear cylinder so that you can see it. Right. Just for videos and stuff. But I have seen people take
00:25:48
Speaker
like a six-inch, four-inch, whatever, like a flower vase or something like that. A vase. I'll send you a link. And put it on a little hot plate and heat it. And even take one of those little spinny things that the scientists use that drop in the bottom. It spins around, you know what I'm talking about? And heat it at the same time and creates a little whirlpool at the top, a little cool effect. Okay.
00:26:17
Speaker
Yeah, be good for videos, but there's something that you can like a clear tube that has a heating element in it that you he you could put in. Oh, yeah. It up to I've seen I've heard when I was looking to find a way to heat the the quench oil. And then that would work. It's like a cool aquarium heater. Something like that. Yeah, exactly.
00:26:41
Speaker
Who knew aquarium shit's all good for knife making? I use the aquarium bubbler for my. Yeah. I use one of those submersible pumps when I do the water quenched, water cooled quench blades. So, um, uh, yeah. So I gotta tell you, you know, another piece of FOMO.
00:27:06
Speaker
So, uh,
Induction Forge Excitement
00:27:07
Speaker
you know, because Jared had one, I had to order an induction for it. It comes tomorrow. You can't ever just let me be. Um, cause we were, we were talking about it a while ago and to, to be fair, remember, I told you, I asked Chris for the, Chris Powell for the link, um, about a week ago.
00:27:35
Speaker
And then you told me that you bought one. And, um, so, uh, have you, have we talked about it on here that you bought one? You were thinking of, yeah, we said there was last week. Um, so literally, I guess it was Friday night. I'm lying in bed. I can't sleep. And I want an induction forage and I'm trying to like, I think I'm like dreaming up a, uh, literally dreaming up a, an excuse for myself to buy one.
00:28:05
Speaker
And then I think, you know, wait a second. It gets so hot here in the summer. I can't teach classes got like, I'm literally just not planning on teaching any classes between July and September because no one in their right mind wants to stand in front of a forge when it's a hundred degrees outside. Like no one's going to know. Everyone is going to be hating life in that course.
00:28:34
Speaker
And then I thought, man, if I get an induction forge, I can close the shop door, turn the air conditioning on. And Jared's pointing at himself, like taking all the credit here. I could close the door, use the induction forge for the class. Of course, yes, they're not going to, they're not going to learn about, you know, using an actual forge. Okay. Tough cookies. If you want to learn that, come back in October.
00:29:04
Speaker
Um, but at least I'll be able to teach classes in the summer. And that was like the epiphany. The next morning I woke up and I'm like, screw it. I'm buying, I'm buying the, uh, the induction porch. And by the way, I did buy the chiller already. It's coming Tuesday. Well, we can't all be like Mr. Tyrell here. Mine's still in the box. It'll be there for a while. I got a wheel and deal on the, on the chiller portion, but yeah.
00:29:32
Speaker
It was funny. I put a post out of the box and did the the old sevens thing. What's in the box? What's in the box? And I can't remember. I think it was. I'm not going to. I'm so bad blue crafty man. He was like, we all we listen to the podcast, dude. We know what's in the box. And I was like, that's fucking awesome, man. That's
Video Projects and Art Form Debate
00:29:58
Speaker
really cool. I was trying to surprise people, but yeah.
00:30:02
Speaker
Well, cool. Cool. I'm stoked. Yeah. Um, I don't know. I got some now I had the problem. I guess, I guess a month and a half ago, I was starting to like run out of ideas for triple T's videos. Now they're racking up. Now I got too many and I can't get them out fast enough. Cause I still got to do some videos on the lathe because they gave me a deal on that lathe. And I feel like I got to do some videos on the lathe. I got to do this one.
00:30:32
Speaker
I guess it's now I have the beginner series racking up. So, so, uh, yeah, those are, those are good things. Yeah, exactly. They're good things. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. That's cool. So, Hey, I got a topic. Um, I'm going to steal some borrow some thunder from, uh, a lot of, a lot of the knife making podcasts have been talking about what, what is art, what's considered art. And the first one I heard it.
00:31:02
Speaker
chronologically was on fire and steel and they were talking about what is um sorry it wasn't um who was it shit it wasn't fire and steel um now I forget was it hustling grind anyway now I forget I think it was it was um fire and steel and I had somebody on and they were asking about um what is is knife making considered an art is it artwork can knives can be considered artwork and then
00:31:32
Speaker
Jeff Fader has his opinion. Jeff, I'm going to disagree with you. Get ready. Buckle up. Hot take. Ladies and gentlemen, the hot take from Dennis Terrell. I'm going to give you my definition of why I think knives can be considered art. And I guess it's a different opinion. If, you know, if you're doing production knives and you're making
00:32:01
Speaker
50, 70, 80, 100. Maybe they don't feel like art to you, right? Or you're making the same knife over and over. But for me, and I'll be honest, probably 70% of the knives I make, I expect are sitting on a shelf. They are purchased to sit on a shelf and be admired. If someone is purchasing something from me to sit on a shelf to look at it,
00:32:31
Speaker
then I consider art. They're not buying, of course it's functional, but they're buying it because they like the look of it and they want to put it on a shelf and they want to look at it. Isn't that the definition of art? It's got copper in it, so it's not, you know. It's not a real knife.
00:32:53
Speaker
So what's your take on this? So my take is probably going to be a little. OK, so as I've said before, making knives prior to this whole journey, like I had never really done anything with my hands created, you know, all this stuff. So, you know,
00:33:16
Speaker
I guess this question personally is probably near and dear to me because this is the first time in my entire life that I believe I've been able to express myself in a form of creating something, which I will choose to say art. And however that is, right? I mean, the beauty's in the eye of the beholder, all the, you know, all the whole cliche things, but, you know, do I think
00:33:43
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anything I'm making belongs in a museum? No. Do I believe that, you know, how much time it takes to actually learn a craft of art, you know, painting, you know, all the, you know, the mainstream or, I'd say historically considered art type things, you know, taking nothing away from all the people that invest their lifelong, you know, passions and creating and doing things. But for me, for this little simpleton,
00:34:12
Speaker
I do believe that knife making has allowed me to express myself in an artistic way, artisan, like prior to 2021, that was not something I could say. I mean, for making things, I mean, I play music, I, you know, I've done different types of things, but this is the first time where I can pick something up and hand it or show and, you know, and express or see, you know, my work in it. So I think it is. Boom.
Engaging with YouTube Comments
00:34:44
Speaker
All right. All right. Done. That's, that's my point because if, and whether other people consider it an art, you know, maybe that doesn't matter. Maybe I think it's art, but I think it's even, it even trumps it. If someone is buying what you think is art and they're buying it and putting on a shelf and looking at it, it's gotta be art, right? Isn't that the definition? I should like look up the definition of art. Like what is it?
00:35:12
Speaker
I almost intended to, but I figured that's stupid. That's like research before you buy things. That's bullshit. All right. So we put that one to bed. Everyone else is wrong. We're right. Sure. I love that Smith. Oh man. The other thing I was going to do, and I forgot, like in the, in the vein of, of doing research is, um, I was going to put together
00:35:43
Speaker
Uh, because, and I'm sure, uh, Mr. Kaggler owner Kaggler and a bunch of the other guys in the Viking challenge, we can all relate to my next topic, which is YouTube comment of the week. And there are some, some, there's some doozies out there.
00:36:04
Speaker
Uh, unfortunately I'm not prepared enough to actually have written one down or taken a screenshot of one, but, um, I know, but that we're going to do as a bit coming up. So I'm going to make sure every time I see one every week or, or even, even, you know, because all you people out here, out there, you know, all 12 of you that are listening, if you do a dumb comment to a YouTuber, they might snap it.
00:36:34
Speaker
and use it against you later. Cause I know in the, in the Viking challenge, all of us, we have a channel that is basically we just post other people's dumb comments to us. Uh, and then we all laugh at you, but, uh, I'm sure no one listening to our podcast would ever do that. You never know. So I'll make that a bit next time of, uh, I have an alias when I troll you guys.
00:37:04
Speaker
Oh yeah, those are, those are awesome owner. He's,
Knife Handle Projects and Mishaps
00:37:07
Speaker
I think the first time I came into, I was listening to, I think it was full blast, but he was talking about, uh, they were talking about how he was roasting people for, you know, getting spark looking at the, the welder through the camera. That is actually one of my favorites of, uh,
00:37:27
Speaker
Uh, you, you almost blinded me because you showed, uh, someone welding on camera. Oh yeah. Your knife sucks. Cause it's got copper in it. It's structurally not sound or, you know, yeah. I had one, I it's in Russian and no offense to anyone's Russian, but I, and I've heard this from other YouTubers, maybe they're just upset over there. I don't get it. But anytime I see a comment that's in Russian, I always like tense up.
00:37:56
Speaker
right before I hit the translate button, because a lot of times they're talking shit, especially if it's a long one. Cause if it's more than 10 words, you know, it's one of those like 50, 50, 50, they're talking shit. That's great. I'm sorry, Tyrell, you're trash. Hey, that's pretty good. Man.
00:38:25
Speaker
So yeah, we'll do, uh, we'll do YouTube comment of the week next week. Nice. Um, what was I gonna say? So I had a, uh, instance where I had some, I had a customer that wanted redwood handles. So I went scouring, you know, doing some things and no names here.
00:38:52
Speaker
Um, but I ended up finding some stabilized redwood, which looks, which can look awesome. Like I've seen stabilized redwood that just looks spectacular. I have not seen one. So like, this is the first time that I had, you know, I was like, Oh, so the guy that I made it for was really wanted. That's, that's his thing. Redwood is he falls redwood trees down and where he lives and he makes these really beautiful tables and, um,
00:39:21
Speaker
He supposedly has a bunch of it. But so I was like, OK, well, let me try to find some. And then he says eventually he wants to have like a set. So I was like, that's going to be kind of still because then we would have to buy, you know, try to get them all to match. And I'm like, that's yeah. Yeah, whatever. So anyways, I go around looking and I ended up settling for somebody that I saw on the Internet. It was not quite recommended, but I bought some.
00:39:51
Speaker
And when I got them, these fucking things were like feathers. Like a light is shit, you know, and again, no expert, you know, just got into the stabilized wood. You know, I guess I just got into everything. So whatever. So I won't use the handful of times I was really using G 10 a lot.
00:40:13
Speaker
and resins and things like that, switched over to the wood and they're just awesome, right? A good stabilized handle. They're just gorgeous, right? And then now the louder they are, the better I think they are. The more off the wall, like, you know, like when I was buying a knife back in the day with, you know, my EDCs and Spydercos and shit like that, I would have never bought anything that had a, you know,
00:40:38
Speaker
super blue and you know or green or yellow like and now i'm like i don't even want to make a knife that's not like off the wall like with a boring handle right so anyways you get this freaking stabilized redwood and it's
00:40:51
Speaker
Super light. It's like nothing like the materials that I've seen. I cut it in half and opened it up and it's like you could feel it still looks porous. It feels porous. There's like pits in it. So I was like, you know, I had a phone a couple of friends. This was a while ago, too. But I reached out to to Ryan from Hustle and Grind, which, hey, guys, by the way, last week episode was fucking awesome. Like.
00:41:19
Speaker
three of my favorite people just, you know, hanging out. It was, it was really cool. And then I finished the episode and then I watched the after show or watched it, um, listen to it. And I was like, dude, that was even better. Like I had to call Brent and I'm like, Hey dude, get out of my fucking head. Everything that we're talking about. Brent's trying to get, you know, start to forge in and all the questions he was asking. It was just, it was super cool. So it was like, I,
00:41:47
Speaker
Um, reached out to Ryan the last week and then he's like, Oh yeah, let's try this. Try that. So I did that. And then I ended up calling him on the Instagram today and the, and he answers and he's got headphones on and I'm like,
00:42:04
Speaker
And he's like, Oh yeah. Hey, we're recording the podcast. And I'm like, dude, you didn't have to answer me right now. You know, he's like, well, we're just doing the after show. But so I think I made a guest spot in the hustle and grind for a minute. Yeah. So we're going to try to let him do his thing and see if they can, they're salvageable or not, or if I'm just tripping and they're fine, you know,
00:42:29
Speaker
Because I'm curious. I'm losing you here. I've heard about your stabilized stuff, but it's me or it's you. I've never actually seen it. And Dennis is gone. Oh, I'm back. Yeah, I don't know what happened. I just got dropped here. That was awesome. I was getting ready to monologue so hard. Makeup heads of shit.
00:42:54
Speaker
So I miss a wooden, right? What did what did Ryan say about this stuff? Like I'm going to send him the I'm going to send him the scales. He's going to try to put him through his thing and see if they're salvageable or if, you know, if I'm tripping, if I don't just don't know what the fuck I'm talking about and they're fine. And I'm just curious because, you know, I guess if I cared, I would reach out and tell the people, you know, but I just I'm really not. So here's my question on this, like, let's say
00:43:21
Speaker
And maybe you guys that know stabilization can answer this question. Use the new Instagram Ali, alias, uh, and tell us podcast. Yeah. So let's say that you stabilize, um, or okay. You do a shitty job of stable stabilizing. Whatever a piece of wood. So doesn't that mean that like the res, like if the resin is kind of half baked,
00:43:50
Speaker
But now isn't that preventing, if you try to do it again, isn't that going to prevent new resin from getting into spaces? Cause now you've blocked it off. You follow what I'm saying? Yeah. So I guess there's different methods. There's one that's without the vacuum pressure pot or something. And, and I guess there's one of the processes is prone to failures.
00:44:17
Speaker
than the other. But again, I'm totally out of my helmet right now. But I would think once you do it once and fuck it up, like you're not going to have good success because you've kind of filled up all the surface but not gotten anything in the interior. So now you're kind of screwed, aren't you? So like this one.
00:44:38
Speaker
What I did was I put some on a suggestion. I put some mineral oil on one side of it. I had already split it. So open it up. So I put some mineral oil on a couple of spots to see if it sucked it up. Yeah. One spot did its thing and then the rest of it just just all gone. Just just completely absorbed it all.
00:44:59
Speaker
So maybe if they try, you know, if he tries it again, then we'll fill those spots and resist it. I don't know. Yeah. Cause I've seen, um, I think it's called redwood lace. I don't know if it's a burl, but redwood lace that's been
00:45:17
Speaker
stabilized and it just looks like tiny little flames everywhere and it looks really really stellar um like I'd like to get some of that uh so I I might actually pick some up at blade show if I can find it um and it looks really good so it sucks that that didn't work out for you yeah so and that shit man I just had a fucking another set of scales completely warp on me like stabilized stabilized yeah
00:45:48
Speaker
It was weird. It must have just happened recently, but I had glued liners on and they were kind of just sitting because, you know. Wow, they had liners on them too. They had liners on them and they were mated together. And then when I was talking to a buddy, it was showing him the wave cutter. Well, they were mating, that's why. I guess, yeah.
00:46:14
Speaker
They were done. Is that what you're saying? They were mating. That's what I said. Someone rolled over. But yeah, it's a trip dude. I'm with you. That's bizarre. You should start buying wood at a creditable place instead of like, what's all this half stabilization in the stuff you have? I don't fucking know.
00:46:40
Speaker
man. But I think I don't know. I'm working with that one on the on the supplier there. But yeah, so it was kind of weird. But the the wave cutter. Oh, yes. Not at all. I got it all glued up. Nice. Look at that side, dude.
00:47:00
Speaker
That's some snazzy, uh, snazzy scales. You guys can't see them, but they are a swirly white and blue, multicolor, white and blue, multi blue, the multi, there's multiple colors of blue in there, right? Plus white. Yep. Yeah. It looks like water. It's pretty cool. Uh, they're from, I got them at, uh, from Lawrence at maritime and they're, they're voodoo resin. They're fucking so, so nice, dude. Um, I got it glued up and I guess I'm
00:47:31
Speaker
out of practice on the glue up because I swear, I was meticulously lazy, I guess, because I did not clean it up as good as I thought I did. Oh, no, it's not leakage. Yeah. And then I'm going to do a video on it because I'm I'm in trouble because I
00:47:52
Speaker
Somebody told me about putting the knife in a in a small vice like this when you're doing the glue up. So it's like another hand, you know, so you can kind of made up and use both your hands. And I did that and did the whole thing. Took him inside.
00:48:13
Speaker
Put them on a table. I put the fucking towel under it because I had done this on our granite table in the kitchen island and I didn't put anything under and I leaked epoxy all on there. Thankfully, that just came right up, but this was on a wood table and I missed the table, the.
00:48:36
Speaker
the underneath the paper towel by about three inches, the drip off. I had this nice fucking big pile that when I woke up this morning of hardened, you know, epoxy on there and I'm like, oh my gosh, she's going to on an on a nice wooden table. Yeah, Mrs. Echo Blaze is going to have my ass. Oh, she doesn't know yet.
00:48:56
Speaker
as she does now, but because she's like, just don't don't mess with it. And then I I took my thicker clipper and I kind of tried to like just get the top and it just fucking like it was so it just sprung. I just came loose and there's I have a fucking circle size like this of some. Scratch paint looking right in the middle of the table. So someone's refinishing a table in their future. That's all I heard. Oh, dude, I'm so busted.
00:49:26
Speaker
And there's a real shitty table right next to it, but I didn't put it on there. You know, like some of the pull-up ones? You should go to Walmart and invest in those $5.99 craft things that you put shit on. You know, they've got like checkerboard, you know, they're like six pounds. I have two of them. They're in the shop, though. I take the knives in the house. Take the tab to play with you. Well, there's shit on it, Dennis. Fuck. We all don't have empty benches. I mean, come on.
00:49:56
Speaker
You can't all these organized. I am not. That's for sure. But yeah, I'm I. Yeah. Fuck. In trouble. Oh, man. I turn the garage up all I want. But inside here is my wife. You know, my wife yells at me every single time because I have a sink in the garage. Right. That looks like.
00:50:21
Speaker
death warmed over because it's full of good description, grinding dust and water, which is now looks like rust. So I don't like washing my hands out there cause it's disgusting and you can't see anything. And then I go in the house and I wash my hands in the sink. And then every day my wife yells at me and says, stop white, washing your hands in the sink. Cause everything gets coated in black goo that's sitting in the sink. So I feel you. Yeah. Wow.
00:50:48
Speaker
This isn't coming off. So I'm sorry, honey. Is she listening? I doubt it, but I'll tell her. Yeah. I don't think Kim's listening to this podcast, but sorry, honey. But yeah, I'm stoked. I routed the handles. That is a.
00:51:11
Speaker
and I just got to sand it now. So we're in the homestretch. So it's basically it's like a like voodoo residence, basically an epoxy, right? Like, it's not a it's not kyranite or anything bullshit like that, right? No,
Forging Experiences and Steel Choices
00:51:24
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yeah. Okay. So it routers no problem. It routed beautifully. Because I think if you did that with kyranite or something like that, you'd have chips flying across the room. That's funny you said that because
00:51:43
Speaker
I'm not going to remember the name of it now. Lynn had just bought me some skills for Valentine's Day. They came a little late, so I just got them. And God dang it, I cannot remember the name of them, but I used them on her knife. The Refier stuff. No, I just and I brought the freaking paper because I wanted to talk about it. But there are all kinds of organized today, aren't you?
00:52:12
Speaker
It's every day. It's not. This isn't a new thing. But yeah, they're really cool. They they finish really, really good too. But like the cure and I and those style things like I think they look awesome, but I'm not ever going to sell a knife or that's going to be used in some kind of, you know, yeah, anything other than a kitchen because I hear you look at it wrong and you certainly don't ever drop the knife or anything like that. I don't get that vibe from this at all.
00:52:42
Speaker
Yeah, that's good. Well, it's resident should be fine. Yeah, it looks killer. I love it. Yeah, I can't wait. So so I buffed the I finished the fronts. That's still my favorite part of knife making, I think right now, like, because part of the thing is, you know, making the knife doing everything. But like, you know, obviously every knife needs to be matched with a handle. Right. And another expression of art is, you know, how you choose to, you know, the color scheme and what you want to do. But you never
00:53:13
Speaker
I never, I never get tired of going, you know, with the jaw dropping once you buff it. And then like, when you see it for the first time, dude, it is just fucking I saw it today. I was so for for Blanca, the woman who did her knife today, I and I usually pick out the scales just so I can pre do them, pre surface them and all that shit, just because it takes forever sometimes. So I chose to use Brazilian Ebony. OK.
00:53:43
Speaker
It's really beautiful wood. It's like kind of brown and dark tones and stripes. And I had never cut into this piece of Brazilian ebony to make the scale, but you can't really see it on the scales. And then, and I'm telling Blanca, like, where you buff it. She's hand sanding and it looks nice. And I'm telling her, where do you buff it? And then she buffs it. And I hear that.
00:54:09
Speaker
you know, like you said, the jaw dropping thing that when when she starts buffing it, and yeah, it was it was nice. It looks gorgeous. So I feel it is my favorite part as well. When you buff that knife and or you do the you do the mineral oil reveal on it. And, you know, that that is definitely the most rewarding part for sure. Yeah, that and the
00:54:38
Speaker
Damascus edge reveal. I mean, yeah, I probably am guilty of over edging those things because I just love that part. So if I could do it with handles, I would. They are called polyester. You got an old sweater, an old polyester sweater. I can't. And I'll show it to you next time. I'll bring some. But yeah, I don't know where she gets them from.
00:55:04
Speaker
someplace on Etsy or something. So like I said, they're cool to look at. And they're really awesome when you when you finish them out. But nothing other than something that's going to be used gently. Nice. But what color? Yeah, they're all kinds. The color blue, black and copper. It's like a peacock kind of color of their feather pattern and all that stuff. So that's cool.
00:55:31
Speaker
But I'm fired up. This is almost done. I'm moving on. I did some grinding on another knife that I had done. The legs came in for the viper chair, the new ones. So put that together today. And that's perfect. So the height on it, it's about two inches shorter than the lowest.
00:55:57
Speaker
The max height is two inches shorter than the lowest setting on the other chair. And it's perfect. So I can go. Was it too high before? Yeah. So it was bottomed out. It was 27 inches. And I was putting me up like I couldn't even wheel up under my desk. So for a couple of things in the shop, I have some higher benches, but I just fucking stand, you know, for all the shit that I want to do, the hands ending and, you know,
00:56:25
Speaker
whatever else on my little workbench there, this is great. And that extra fucking white ass is just the business. I do not regret that at all. I looked down and I was like, I still got some room to grow, so I'm good. Oh, man. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. So your triple T.
00:56:55
Speaker
Great show again. Good. I loved it. Yeah, this is the Forging episode. That's correct. Yeah. So I was I was really honestly when I was thinking about doing the show, I was really debating. Do I want to use just a piece of stock? I had literally had a stock piece of ADC or V2 in my hand. And I thought, yeah, I should use this. And then I thought, well,
00:57:23
Speaker
It's probably not a beginner, total beginner steel just because of the decar potential for ADC or V2 and the heat treat and all that stuff. And I figured let's pick something even though I hate it, I hate doing it because it's leaf spring, it takes forever. Let's pick something that a lot of people have or have access to and is easy to heat treat. So that was my theory.
00:57:53
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But of course I had to, you know, it's like over three eighths thick leaf spring that I've got a hand hammer now. So I was not, I'm not a happy camper doing that, but I got it done. Yeah. So I thought that stuff was, I mean, it's great. It's good. It's good steel, but, um, my buddy's a, uh, drives a big rig and he changed the springs out on half inch thick.
00:58:23
Speaker
Oh, fuck, they're three inches wide and about a half inch thick. Yeah. And I have two full setups, dude, like I have enough of that shit that I'll never use it all. And then I was trying to tell I was telling Lawrence about it when we were in the makers camp a few years ago. And he's like, yeah, now why don't you just use some 10 80? It moves a lot better. Yeah. I'm like, I had never forged. I'd never hit anything before. And then now I'm struggling with the 10 80. So.
00:58:52
Speaker
I believe you Lawrence. I believe you. Yeah. I had, I had, um, um, my buddy Justin changed the leaf Springs on his truck. And this is like, you know, whatever it is. Uh, I don't remember what it's trying to dot big Dodge truck or something like that, but pretty big leaf Springs. And at that point I already had a full set of leaf Springs. So I ended up given away to, I just posted something on the NorCal.
00:59:19
Speaker
knife makers group saying, Hey, anybody want leaf springs have two full sets of leaf springs and someone came and got them. I forget who it was, but I'm like, take them. You can have them. I still have probably, I don't know, 24 inches of little pieces of leaf spring that I'll use on occasion, but not very often. Yeah, I kept them because eventually I'll finish the press, but I figured that would be
00:59:50
Speaker
projects for that just to move it with the press, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's good for things like, you know, you just need a hardened piece of steel like you're you I'm once made shit. Why am I spacing on the name? Fucking you lock your knife in it in to do the file guard file file
01:00:20
Speaker
file guide, file guide. Thank you. Geez, some brain fart. I made a file guide out of 5160. So at least I had a hardened file guide long ago before I bought one, but they're good for stuff like that or for hardy tools and stuff like if you have a big enough piece. Yeah, I got to redo that piece on my on the Miami Vice.
01:00:46
Speaker
Oh, the spring. The spring. I've used exactly that. I've used a piece 5160 to replace the spring on mine. So yeah, the good thing. When I get my induction forge, I'll do that. Yeah, actually a local guy. Now I forget. People send me stuff all the time. And then I put it on the shelf. And then I forget who said I really need to like, take a little note and tape it to those things because I forget who gave it to me. But someone
01:01:15
Speaker
gave me, for all you people that watch Gold Rush, like the TV show Gold Rush, sent me a piece of spring from one of those shaker decks. And when you watch the show, you don't realize how big the fucking springs are on those things. That piece, and you can tell it's been torched off. It's probably three inches long and two inches thick. Wow.
01:01:45
Speaker
No, it's got to be two and a half inches thick. Like those springs are massive. So it's a piece of 5160, at least he told me it's 5160, from a shaker deck from a gold, you know, gold recovery. He told you it's true, damn it. Right. Yeah. Well, I'd be I'm actually worried about the whole section that's been then cut with a cutoff torch because probably all the carbon's been burned out of that part of it.
01:02:15
Speaker
Um, so I don't know how much of it's usable steel, but it's not like I need, maybe I'll make a hardy tool or something out of it, but who knows. But, um, yeah, the triple T was fun. Um, um, you know, I honestly, I don't spend enough time forging at the anvil. I'm really thankful that
New Tools and Sponsorship Announcements
01:02:36
Speaker
I'm doing these intro knife making classes because even yesterday I got to forge a knife, you know, beginning to end.
01:02:45
Speaker
this time forged in the bevels and, you know, put some more time into it besides just forging the profile. But it was good to practice. I mean, I had a good time. So I liked the classes for that because, you know, I like to demo what I'm doing and not just tell people hit here, hit there. A lot of people learn by watching. So I like to demo, you know, what they, what they're doing kind of thing. No, a hundred percent. That's my, my thing.
01:03:15
Speaker
hands on, just visually seeing is super helpful for me. So that's cool. Yeah. But now I got more, more knives than I half made knives than I know what to do with. Hey, you're at my shop now. Yeah, I know. Right. So we'll, uh, I'll get them done. Speaking of origin, I got a shipping notification that my a hundred dollar, uh, dog head, it should be here tomorrow. I'm fired up from that known, known forge.
01:03:44
Speaker
All right, so that's gonna give you some incentive to get that induction forge all ready. I don't need any more obsessive because I have this spinny hammer holder of awesomeness. That's right. I just keep walking by and spinning and going one day sexies will get out one day.
01:04:03
Speaker
We should play a game. We'll use it like one of those spinning wheels. You got to spin it and then, you know, pick the hammer. And that's what you got to use this heat. I think with this hammer, all of the the end pieces will have the the the good hammers. My two Cliff Dufthans, the the Norwood
01:04:29
Speaker
Um, my two known hammer forged, uh, it's getting good. I remember talking to somebody when I was first thinking about this, uh, a while ago and I'm like, Hey, I need a recommendation on a hammer. And I think about it now. And their reply was just like, well, just one, like, you know, all of a sudden you just acquire them, you know?
01:04:54
Speaker
And then this guy's selling them for a hundred bucks. And I told somebody that I'm like, yeah, my new, my new hammer. They're like, do you really need another one? I'm like, yeah, it was only a hundred bucks. And he's like, only a hundred bucks. Like, I was like, all right, I get it. That's like asking a guy who likes fishing. Like, do you really need another fishing rod? Fuck? Yeah, I do. Of course you do. Yeah. I've used them all sporadically, but yeah, it's going down. So.
01:05:23
Speaker
Um, speaking for you. Oh, good. No, no, you, you, you go. Mine's a big thing. I don't want to make a big deal out of it. So I'm going to answer your question first. Well, mine was kind of a segue. So you go ahead. Okay. So speaking of hammers. Okay. And maybe I'm, you know, we don't actually have all the paperwork signed and blah, blah, blah, but I'm going to announce it anyway. Uh, I am thrilled and crazy surprised that
01:05:53
Speaker
We have our first sponsor for the podcast, which is like blowing my head off. I can't believe anyone would want to sponsor this podcast after only four episodes, but buddy Frank, Frank Machado at two bastards, uh, Smithy. If you don't know Frank, um, Frank is a hammer maker extraordinaire. I met Frank, um, last.
01:06:19
Speaker
Actually, this weekend, last year, a year ago at Blade, Texas, and he was walking around wearing a kilt, had like 10 hammers around his waist, was kind of wondering what was holding up his kilt. But
01:06:44
Speaker
my buddy Chad goes, oh yeah, you got to meet him. So he introduces us and I'm like, yeah, I need, I want a straight peen hammer. So I say to Frank, you know, he, you know, give me your card. Jared's the last video. Okay. All right. I'm good. So I get his card, whatever. Reach out. So whatever. Get to know Frank. He makes a ton of hammers.
01:07:14
Speaker
Frank makes hundreds of hammers a year. He loves doing restorations on hammers. He is just a hammer fanatic. And my go-to hammer now is the straight peen that I got from Frank last year. So Frank reached out to me, wanted to sponsor the show. And I warned him, I said, hey, maybe you want to do short, you know, short contract, make sure you're getting value or getting value, like whatever. So,
01:07:44
Speaker
Jeez, we talked on the phone for I think an hour and a half the other night, just shooting the shit. He was, it was the night before they were heading to play Texas the next morning. So, um, uh, yeah, so they're going to sponsor the show, which I think is great. You'll start to hear reads, not when it reads, we're going to do them live. We got one sponsor. I don't think we need to pre-record stuff. We're just going to talk about them. But if you need a hammer.
01:08:10
Speaker
Um, check out, uh, two bastards, uh, Smithy. I kind of, I actually got to figure out the exact name. I keep calling it two bastards smithing, but, uh, that might not be the exact name. So Frank, I apologize. I'll get the exact name,
Cultural Expressions and Episode Wrap-Up
01:08:26
Speaker
but he's going to give me the details and reads and all that kind of stuff. So, uh, yeah, happy to have a sponsor. I think that's pretty cool. That's amazing. Thank you, Frank. Yeah. Welcome aboard. Right. This small ship.
01:08:41
Speaker
Yeah, and I wouldn't take a sponsor of something that I don't believe in. So I've been using this hammer going on probably about 10 months now. Love it. It's the one in the video that you saw, the Triple T video, the only hammer I used in that video is that straight peen hammer, because I love it so much, it hits so well. I have used it myself. The straight peen is...
01:09:09
Speaker
A straight peen is the cat's ass. Yeah. Not to be confused. Is that a thing? Is a cat's ass good, Dennis? The fuck is a cat's ass? I guess that's a Canadian thing. That's actually good. Being the cat's ass. That's a good thing. Okay. So it's the shiznit. It's good. It's dope. It's awesome. It's badass. It's a cat's ass. The Canadian version is called the cat's ass. Yeah. It's the cat's ass.
01:09:37
Speaker
Oh, that's awesome. Come on, my Canadian friends back me up. It's the cat's ass. It's a good thing. I need to hear if this is a real fucking thing because I'm not wowed. I'm meowed by the fucking cat's ass. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Straight peas are awesome. Not in a sexual way.
01:10:03
Speaker
Didn't say anything about that. I'm just saying. Good cat's ass. I'm still having a problem with it. Oh man. Okay. So what was your question? You were going to ask another question and then you're going to do a segue. So I interrupted your big moment. No, it's hold on here. Nah, I think we're good. We'll save that one for next time. It was kind of a something that I can get you to expound on, but
01:10:31
Speaker
We'll let that go. I think that's great news, Frank. Thank you. Happy. Awesome. Grateful. Everybody that's been on our side supporting doing their thing. You guys are awesome. Thank you. And. Yeah, we go. I tell you, coming from, you know, the YouTube world and the, you know, Instagram that I'm used to, like I know those things.
01:10:59
Speaker
And coming to this medium, the one thing that is different about podcasting that I'm noticing, there's, I'm not getting that instant, like, are people receiving this? Like I don't, I don't have that. Like when I post a video, I can see the views. I can see, yeah, I know I can go get the, you know, I gotta go look in multiple places to get the count of the downloads and
01:11:28
Speaker
But it's not like I'm seeing comments and I'm getting things on my phone that are pushed to me about how, so I'm not getting the feedback that I'm used to. So I'm like, we're throwing these episodes out into the ether. I have no idea if people are listening to them, but I guess they are. Oh, we, we, we stop, we go about our business and I'll spend the next couple of days. Ah, that was fucking trash. I'm just going to hate that. And my.
01:11:57
Speaker
self-doubt, negative talk, my blue dog, red dog, whatever, good angel. That guy's just like, so I'm with you, dude. It's a trip. And I'm kind of bummed that I didn't get to do my welcome to the triple T podcast. And this episode is sponsored by nobody. Yeah. Kindness of our hearts. You had four episodes to do that. You're it's over. I didn't want to be like, hey, look at us. Fuck man. I totally missed that. So.
01:12:25
Speaker
That's what it was, guys. It was supposed to be funny. It was the cat's ass, dude. The cat's ass? You should go Google the cat's ass. No, I'm just going to use it forever now. Welcome to the cat's ass. I'll tell you a story. So my ex-wife's sister is telling this story about her boyfriend at the time. I guess their landlord.
01:12:55
Speaker
that was some Indian guy. And they were telling him like they were late for the rent or whatever or something. I forget what the issue was. And Ryan, the guy goes, well, aren't you just the cat's ass? And the guy goes, I am not the cat's ass. So every time I hear the cat's ass, I can just hear that guy go, I am not the cat's ass. That's awesome. Because I would be offended too, because I don't fucking get it, but whatever.
01:13:25
Speaker
Most people that go to the snow just aren't right. Yeah. Well, you can't be helped. I don't know what to say. It's true. Well, by the way, we now have the title of this episode, the cat's ass. Damn right. I don't have to get that text now. This is great. All right. I think we're going to close it off. You ready to dance?
01:13:51
Speaker
You ready to dance? I'm already dancing right now. Let's dance. Let's go. It's not playing in my ears. What? Get out. I swear. Oh, well, it's over. Bye, folks. That's a wrap.