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"Roar like Vlad" ACN Pod 142
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Clare, Jon & Tom review an excellent result at Blackburn and look back on the tricky week that preceded it. Not everyone is "Fine". Tom also endeavours to find new ways to make what should be a simple quiz seem like rocket science.
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Norwich's Recent Victories
00:00:21
Speaker
Welcome to Long Come Norwich podcast, a little low-budget lounge of loyal lament. Norwich have landed another league win after being left low by a lurid little lowlife lured away by those loathed locals. So let's lock our lively leading lads Sergeant in the loft till late Monday night.
00:00:34
Speaker
Claire and John are with me, so let's get after it.
Is Sergeant Among the Best Players?
00:00:39
Speaker
There is only one place to start, really. Sergeant is firmly in the Pookie and Hulk conversation now, Claire, isn't he? Oh, 100%. I mean, surely, surely, surely, surely he'll still be here tomorrow night.
00:00:53
Speaker
he The way he tapped that badge, oh my God, my heart just exploded. i mean, that alone. in The grin with it as well. It was pointed. It was not a coincidence, was it?
00:01:04
Speaker
No, oh totally not. No, he knew exactly what he was doing. just He's just, I can't even find the words to say how much I love him. He's by far the, as a conversation, is he the best player in the championship? For me, 100%.
00:01:19
Speaker
As someone said, he's like a cheat code. I mean, he's just unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, the only thing is obviously Pukki did it a bit in the Premier League as well. We haven't seen that from Josh, but his time will come there with us, hopefully.
00:01:34
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, Pukki didn't do it in the Premier League that early in his career and with as bad a season around him as ah as Josh had that with his very brief stint.
00:01:45
Speaker
So, Punt, do you want to do you want to kind of add any... anything to that in terms of him being considered right up there? what What has he got to do in terms of
Comparisons with Norwich Legends
00:01:55
Speaker
either number of goals or do we have to win the league or winner ah we lift the trophy at Wembley for him to to be counted as an equal to Pukki and Holt?
00:02:05
Speaker
and oh I think he's, for me, he's already of that calibre. There's no doubt about that in my mind. And the fact, look and and if I take it back,
00:02:16
Speaker
We talked about Bellamy in those terms. We talked about Ewan Roberts in those terms, in terms of being up with those legends. And alright, Ewan had the league title win. at the end of his Norwich career, but he wasn't an integral part of that championship winning campaign. like there's There's no doubt about that.
00:02:31
Speaker
So I think you speak about Ewan in the same breath as Taimou and Holt. There's no doubt about that.
Team's Recent Creative Surge
00:02:40
Speaker
So I think he's there already. i think the the pedigree that he shows on the pitch, the fact that he's now starting to create his own chances, you know, kind of a yeah purely because...
00:02:52
Speaker
yeah we haven't we haven't been the most creative so far this season. In fact, Saturday was, you know, and I'm sure we'll get into it, was probably the best that we've looked in terms of, you know, creating clear-cut chances in front of goal.
00:03:03
Speaker
And a lot of it just came from him, like kind of just sheer awareness, his ability to gravitate into space, his ability to... to roll a defender and, you know, and just move into the right area. And, you know on another day, he you know, he probably has three or four, um you know, he has several presentable chances.
00:03:19
Speaker
um Yeah, he's definitely up there. i I mean, if he's here at the end of the season, how many Norwich goals has he got if he's fit? I mean, what's he on, 54 now? What they saying? You know, if he starts getting into...
00:03:34
Speaker
ah saw I saw that on the Pinkham pod. he Oh, yeah, if he carries on at this Imagine much would be worth if that happens. Yeah, I mean, Josh is josh likes a goal in August, doesn't he? So, you know, it might just be his purple patch.
00:03:47
Speaker
um But the last couple of seasons, you know, kind of he he's um he's not been on the pitch, you know, kind of when you kind of get into autumn. So let's hope if he if he
Sergeant's Goal Expectations
00:03:57
Speaker
does continue.
00:03:57
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, sky's the limit. ah you know you if If he plays 46 championship games, he should be getting 30 goals, I think. is know and And then you are absolutely worth ah shit ton of money if we don't get promoted.
Will Sergeant Stay or Transfer?
00:04:14
Speaker
Yeah. Claire, what's the what's your thought on the the the the chances ah are that we're either up in the Premier League with him or he's playing somewhere else next season? I don't think we're going to get lucky with another summer transfer window based on how he's roared out the traps.
00:04:31
Speaker
do you think that Do you think that he needs to get a trophy? Do you think that he needs he needs actually team success? Because the thing about Pukki and Holt is they were scoring goals and were the talisman similarly to Sargent, i.e. if they're in the team, we have got a chance. If we're 2-0 down with 20 minutes to go, but Holt or Pukki, I mean, again, Holt did have hudan with him at the same time.
00:04:56
Speaker
Then likewise, Pukki often had Buendia, but... But with Sargent, you kind of feel like, well, what when he's on the on the on the pitch, we've got a chance in that similar way. but But in order in five, 10 years time, do you think there needs to be so silverware of some kind as well?
00:05:12
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it would certainly cement his legend status, wouldn't it, if we did win something with him there. or or get promotion with him there because, you know, you kind of always remember the players and the team that that got you those things um and they have a very sort of fond place and in everyone's heart.
Sergeant's Passionate Play
00:05:30
Speaker
so But I also think, you know, look back at other strikers that we didn't win anything with that were equally brilliant, that we probably didn't have as long um and would have wished we had, like Dean Ashton and that kind of thing.
00:05:44
Speaker
They're still brilliant. held in very high esteem in the club but I think I think it's more i think it's just Josh's energy and the way he fights for everything and he's obviously so passionate and hopefully passionate about Norwich City by the look of him yesterday so I think he's already he's already gonna be a fan favorite for a very long time to come with or without us when he leaves he will be yeah He will be sent off with good wishes, hopefully, because he's done so very well for us.
00:06:14
Speaker
and But hopefully he stays with
Transfer Speculations for Sergeant
00:06:16
Speaker
us. And if we get to the Premier League with him, then 100% he'll be held in the same sort of esteem as Pukki. and then yeah So yeah to let let's let's tempt fate.
00:06:28
Speaker
I'd be tempting fate a lot by saying by talking about him in terms of him staying. So I want to ask a shithouse question. A bid comes in tomorrow for Sarge from Brentford or ah Brighton or Nottingham Forest go on let's Nottingham Forest they've got a shit ton of money Nottingham Forest yeah i'm so how much does it need to be for because Liam Manning obviously said it needs to I can't remember what he said he used some superlative but it needs to be ah you know it needs to be basically we can buy half a squad for that sort of money before we're going to do anything so i think 40 million quid 40 million quid
00:07:06
Speaker
forty wait for you look We can't replace him now, can we? yeah um What good 40 million to us now. We won't be able to spend it until January. So why why would we sell him now?
00:07:19
Speaker
Sell him in January for 40 million, maybe, but not now. yeah We haven't got enough time. but Exactly. And they've talked about, and I think, you know Pad was talking about it on the Pink and Pod today. they They were saying, well, they do have targets and they do have people in mind.
00:07:32
Speaker
But a lot of those that they had kind of lined up to replace Sargent if and when he went have moved in this window.
Transfer Window Challenges
00:07:39
Speaker
So, you know, that that then becomes a difficulty that you're... and the club that you're going to now knows that you're armed with a massive bag of cash.
00:07:48
Speaker
So, you know, that that's just going to drive the price up. Yeah. I think it's got to be an exorbitant amount of money. Like you are talking. so the It's realistically, if someone comes in with 30 million quid, Norwich probably take it.
00:08:00
Speaker
Let's be frank. It was 20 at the start of the window, wasn't it? It was 20 at the start of the window. 21, I think, was the Wolfsburg deal, including the add-ons. if you don't include the the tax of you've already got a cross fan base, plus you've then got, you're effectively saying we we're very unlikely.
00:08:17
Speaker
It's probably a Premier League loan, isn't it, with a big loan fee? It's probably, you're hoping it's the fourth. If you're even lucky, maybe a third loan. rate striker who's really annoyed that they've not featured much in the first three Premier League games.
00:08:29
Speaker
That's probably your best bet of getting something. and And we we seem to have utilised the Premier League loan market less this summer than we have for as long as I can remember, really. We usually have two two of them kind of locked in pretty early.
00:08:43
Speaker
um but So that I'd imagine that is the get out of jail card. And yeah around the fan side of things it needs to be something along the lines of i would say 35 where you just go, that is such an unbelievable haul that we will be able to do some damage with that in
Possession and Chances Analysis
00:09:01
Speaker
January. But as has been demonstrated with what you were saying um with chance creation, i actually thought Blackburn yesterday, as we record this Sunday 31st, I actually thought that was that wasn't one of our better... i don't think we had ah an extended period of time creating chances. We were definitely the better so team in the first half. Right. I think there were better quality chances that we created.
00:09:25
Speaker
I think that's just the bit. totally agree. Totally agree. Totally agree. And part of that was Sargent kind of going, right, I'll do it then. and But also, the we didn't have that kind of 25-minute purple patch of it feeling like a goal is going to come any second. and Or rather, it feels like a good chance is going to come any second, should I say.
00:09:46
Speaker
um So it's interesting that... slightly less possession maybe, slightly less meaningful possession, slightly better XG. um Do you think that's because of the shape though?
00:09:56
Speaker
you know like that the play that We did revert to a four at the back, you know as Claire predicted. um I didn't see that coming at all. I thought Manning was wedded to it, especially the way that he was talking. and But, you know, Kellen is a right back. Wouldn't he say it's just...
00:10:11
Speaker
Wouldn't he say it was the same flexible system, we just happened to be in a four more often? wouldn't that be that Wouldn't that be his way of saying I didn't think that would be his way of saying it. But I think anti-Sernach especially was much better for occupying a position on the wide right and actually cutting in rather than being one of tens. Yeah.
00:10:31
Speaker
you know, Kvis Goran was, was kind of occupying that space in, but time um behind Sargent. It was almost 4-4-2, wasn't it? Yeah, at times. And Sargent, I think, played well together at the top.
00:10:42
Speaker
Yeah, Matty Kay needs to stop giving the ball away. He he nearly got another assist. yeah he did But then, you know, a few of them gave the ball away again, but didn't they? You know, like we, we nearly played ourselves into trouble two or three times. Yeah.
00:10:54
Speaker
so What kind of game would it be if we didn't do that, though? I know. It was fewer times than Borough. I mean, in in the the first half against Borough, they legitimately could have been four and they're up with almost all of the assists being us.
00:11:11
Speaker
So let's talk about ah the first clean sheet of the season for that man, Big Flad, Claire. There was a particular moment, ah that double save. Holy Moses, Mother of Mary. Yeah.
00:11:24
Speaker
Yeah, I've watched that fair few times. I watched it a few times just to see if he touched the first one, but he did and he stuck his foot out um because it was, yeah, it was a, I mean, that's what they trained to do, isn't it?
Goalkeeper's Stellar Performance
00:11:37
Speaker
Get up and save like that. And, oh, it was fantastic. I mean, he's going to give us some very scary moments. He comes off his line and out of the penalty box way too often. but But the saves like that is, yeah, fantastic. That's what you want from a goalkeeper. And so much, so much, like,
00:11:54
Speaker
passion and energy as well I love it that when he was at the end of the game doing the Josh Sargent song and he was like roaring practically like a lion oh my god I love this man yeah Yeah, no, he he's ah he's so likable. And I think character-wise, you if you're having a middling if you're having a middling start, which we which we have, although we'll come to that in in a minute, but if you're not winning all the time, then you you need people who you're rooting for and you're basically staying with the team as they go through this kind of transition period into a new system or or yeah as Manning finds his version of his system. Because um naturally, he would have expected that,
00:12:36
Speaker
he's going to have to tweak it based upon who picks it up, who doesn't pick it up. what you know He still doesn't know his best 11. um thats That's the thing. I feel like it was close yesterday, though.
00:12:47
Speaker
I feel like that team was almost what i would want to see on the team sheet pretty much. So would you if if if everything gets the all clear, hopefully, with his bonts, do we think that Fisher keeps his his position or Stacey comes back in after the international break?
00:13:06
Speaker
Given that I i would prefer the four at the back, I think it would probably stay with Fisher. It's a fluid system, Claire. It's not a force, a fluid system. Fisher to start and Stacey to finish. and fish But Fisher was so good ah just finding Cernach. It didn't feel like it was Stacey just galloping down there on his own. And then when he did receive the ball, actually, he was quite isolated. It it felt more like a cohesive right-hand side that that was going to do something. Fisher got you know kind of got on the overlap a couple of times.
00:13:35
Speaker
But also just, all right, Medici did get exposed once or twice, but actually he looked way more comfortable just you knowing, look, I'm playing in this channel and I've got right back that you know he's going to back me up as and when required if if a ball gets played in behind. So...
00:13:51
Speaker
I think you know Manning's talked a lot about playing to the players' individual strengths. I think you know he's he's probably got a flex around Medic or he's got to not play Medic, which would be a massive call given everything that's happened in pre-season. And you know the fact that he started every game, i think, hasn't he?
00:14:08
Speaker
Possibly be even the Cup games as well. I think, ah it not not to be too reductive and basic, but... Stacey is a really good home, is a really good person to bring on as a sub when you are chasing a game or to start a game at home or to start a game at home when you want to get the fans on your side. Because when he does set
Different Tactics for Home and Away Games
00:14:31
Speaker
off on one of those runs, yes, it is fair to middling in terms of how often something, yeah know, quite often a corner is the best outcome. You know, his delivery is not superb.
00:14:41
Speaker
Decision making is not always brilliant. But I would rather at home in the first opening 15, 20 minutes of a game, have him kind of take a deep breath and charge than Fisher's constant looking for an inside pass at home to get us up and get us going.
00:14:58
Speaker
So i think we are going to see them kind of... yeah chip in and out depending on who they're playing, the opposition, the strength of opposition. And I've got no problem with with Fisher being the the most regular starter away.
00:15:09
Speaker
get and Get us into a game, get us either comfortable or get to a point where we're chasing a goal and then bring Stacey on and say, right, you haven't got to do any defending because we're 2-1 down. Just keep bombing on and keep getting balls to Sarge however you can or Chris Corham if he's going to come good.
00:15:23
Speaker
On the Medici thing, just want to step aside by one player. Harry Darling again made a... you know, crucial, in a crucial, interception is probably the wrong word, but and being the right place at the right time, bailing his mates out.
00:15:40
Speaker
It's Sarge versus, Sarge versus darling for play of the season in May if they both stay fit. I mean, what a free transfer. My goodness me. I mean, he looks...
00:15:52
Speaker
He looks like one of the best defenders at this level we've had in a long time. Because we're now talking, because likewise, he started every game. So we are now talking six games where he has been, if not the best, in the top two best players Did he play in the Cup? Did he play? I can't remember if he played it in the yeah it was second round of the Cup. He was captain, wasn't he? Oh, yeah, he was.
00:16:12
Speaker
Yeah. So, he's been either the best player on ah for Norwich or he's been in the top two or three in all six games. Oh, yeah. He hasn't... I mean... What a signing. He looks exactly as advertised, and comes with shithousery, which is always a benefit.
00:16:29
Speaker
i I loved against Blackburn second half. There was someone on a booking who had recently been booked for descent and ah Darling hadn't really done much of his sort of shithousery so far in the game.
00:16:42
Speaker
It was just after he got booked for dissent, this Blackburn lad, that was when and Darling started chipping away at him. like And I just thought he's... Because he's that is that that's the thing. It's not just being hot-headed. It's not just being the sort of person that riles the the opposition or the opposition fans. It's turning it on and off and going having that game sensibility to go, this guy is this this guy is on a yellow and could go if I keep standing on his studs and telling him that he's wrong.
00:17:09
Speaker
And he's got that canny knack of just doing the kind of Grant Hanley falling over at any kind of hint of contact.
Defense Strategies Shine
00:17:17
Speaker
If you've just touched me on the back, I'm going over and I'm going to just grab the ball and win the foul and you know just take that pressure off. Some of those ah north Northwest kind of strong breezes were enough.
00:17:26
Speaker
Yeah. yeah he's he's but he can mix it but also funnily enough he does often fall over when he when he has to um i actually think fish fish is actually quite good at that for his age fish is quite good at taking a take taking taking a a four when needs to so look lets let's talk about the the where we're at and um in terms of the the there's been a funny old championship season so far i heard pad talking about with the pink and lads that There doesn't seem to be a massively standout team.
00:17:55
Speaker
There's obviously one team with a perfect record, but I've seen them and they aren't all that. um And obviously teams can get better and and develop, but we saw how fortunate they were to get three points against us. and so and And I watched the highlights from from this weekend as well.
00:18:10
Speaker
And, you know, it's not like they were yeah pulling up any trees and should really have conceded several times. So and in terms of the teams that have managed to win more than two games, it's only five.
00:18:21
Speaker
And in terms of people who scored more goals than us, and there's only there's only six. So, you know, we we yes, we are eleventh you know, mid-table at the moment in terms of the the team position.
00:18:32
Speaker
But, we're you know, we're two wins off top at the moment. And we we we said last week around how if we can keep just chunking away and keep whilst we're working out what is this Manning system? What is this Manning best 11?
00:18:47
Speaker
If we can keep notching up points and getting the odd win here and there and keeping in in in touch, that's all we can really ask. And if you look at it, proper glass half full, If you look at the money we've made in a transfer window, some of the signings who already look like fantastic championship assets for us and a couple who it's a bit early to tell, but they certainly are looking better they did in game one and game two in Mayditch and Vlad.
00:19:12
Speaker
And then you look at the fact that actually we're sitting in the top half of the table and we haven't really played anything like what we would consider to be our best form yet. I actually think that's have been a really good August, don't you, Claire?
00:19:26
Speaker
um I wouldn't say really good. i think it's been enough. um And I always thought that it would be a tricky August, but that I expected that. So I don't have any issue that we haven't sailed off into the sunset already winning every single game and looking perfect because that would just be ridiculous that we could do that.
00:19:49
Speaker
I always come back to the season we went up under Daniel Farker, the first one, where we were all over the shop in August. And then we started just figuring it out and we gained momentum and that momentum kept going and going and going.
00:20:04
Speaker
And I feel like we're going to be like that this season.
Team's Progressive Confidence
00:20:07
Speaker
And I think it good it's good that we've gone into the international break on a wind. We've got a really tough game to come back to away at Cov.
00:20:16
Speaker
um But if we can get something there, then that's going to be amazing. um And then from then on, I think we'll really start to kick on. and The transfer window will be shut. And I think August is always so tricky because people don't really know if they're staying or going. or I find the whole thing very uneasy for everybody, fans and players.
00:20:38
Speaker
So that's going to be done. And then we're like, right, these are our players, let's go on with it. So I feel like we're gonna we're going to really start to build from them when we come back. and So, yeah, it's been enough. We're we're in there.
00:20:50
Speaker
And like you said, we've been figuring it out these sort of first few games. We've got six points. um So we're in the mix. And yeah, positive, but not brilliant.
00:21:03
Speaker
What would you say, Punt? Because you you you were a bit more half full over the last couple of pods. But um I think that that win and three away wins on a bounce. And when you look at it in context, you know, we could be having Sheffield United start to the season, least losing four, although they couldn't hit a barn door on Saturday, as I said.
00:21:24
Speaker
and yeah really They really should have had a couple of goals. um Yeah, i I think you have to look at it in context, don't you? Yeah, I think, look, I think the word Clare's just used enough is is probably absolutely spot on.
00:21:37
Speaker
um There have been some red flags around some of our early performances. There have been some real green shoots, ah you know, stuff that that I've liked the look of. um And, you know, that is all set, you know, kind of against the backdrop of the fact that, you know, there's probably, ah I guess, you know, six or seven players um among the starting XI that weren't part of the starting XI last season.
00:22:00
Speaker
Manning is is clearly looking to to kind of hit on a formula. um Maybe he's hit on it. You know, I think actually we were talking about chance creation and Sarge. I think Sarge just having someone near him, you know, kind of a not being isolated was probably really big for him because Chris Gorham was just occupying other defenders. You know, it it didn't do much, you kind of in in terms of his output.
00:22:22
Speaker
I know he brought one down, you know, kind of really well in the box and, and you know, and kind of um something happened as a result of that. But, yeah, But he he didn't really do as much as as maybe we'd seen, you know, from his his previous cameos.
00:22:34
Speaker
But he was just someone who was occupying another defender, you know kind of making sure that Sarge had had the space. And you I think probably what will happen is Sarge will get doubled up on pretty soon.
00:22:45
Speaker
And then actually maybe that's when Chris Corham will start to have a bit of success as as well because you know kind of he he might be the unknown quantity. and you know and And then actually if we've got two of them at the top end of the pitch who are wreaking havoc, then um they're not going to know what to do with this. That would be fantastic.
00:23:01
Speaker
So yeah, ah I think that I'm pretty content after that win that um there are still some issues in terms of consistency of performance and the fact that you know Blackburn managed to carve out several good chances you know and Vlad's save it just um or Vlad's double save, just unbelievable.
00:23:23
Speaker
um but I have got a question just on Vlad. Have you ever, either of you, or can you either of you remember a goalkeeper who's quite as eccentric that has played for Norwich?
00:23:35
Speaker
because ah Because I can't, I really can't, that he's played for Norwich. It's like Bruce Grobelaar kind of level. This is it. Like Schmeichel when he has his red. Tim Krull was a bit mad.
00:23:48
Speaker
Yeah, but but in a bit more of a professorial way. You know, he was he was he felt a bit more like a cool teacher, Tim Krull, rather than... I mean, Vlad is straight out bonkers, isn't he?
00:23:59
Speaker
Yeah. and Yeah. Yeah, that's a good question. I'm trying to think if we've, I'm trying to think if we had like anyone bonkers in the 90s. Because everyone says like, oh, goalkeepers are a different breed, you know, goalkeepers are all nuts.
00:24:13
Speaker
Yeah, we've been, we've had school teachers for, you know first for goalkeepers. Robert Green had his moments, I think. He liked to engage
Goalkeeper Vlad's Eccentric Style
00:24:22
Speaker
the crowd. and man Maybe, but mean not not to this level. I'm hoping, I'm hoping that this this clean sheet will give give him,
00:24:32
Speaker
we will top up his confidence and say, give him confidence. I think the lad's coffee got a little bit confidence anyway. And he wakes up in the morning and congratulates himself on you know in the mirror for, hey, you've done you've done a great job of being you.
00:24:43
Speaker
and I don't think he's short of that. I've never seen a goalkeeper give it the old zero sign for a clean sheet either. I mean, I was just like, fair play, mate. It's a shame it took six games. But and if we if we can see a bit more that. he didn't play the confidence. Remy played two of them, yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Okay. But it still took six games for Norwich to get one.
00:25:01
Speaker
and But the Cov game is going to be interesting. So and that's obviously what's coming up. There's then a couple of other, you know, we've got Stoke coming up away as well.
00:25:12
Speaker
there's there's there's games where there are teams where you think, are you good or or is it just based on who you've played or likewise, are you bad or is it just a case of who you've played? And likewise, we're not the only ones who have got a high turnover of players. That's pretty much the way of the championship, right?
00:25:28
Speaker
So, you know, there's there's players who are on the bench. I mean, I watched the highlights on Saturday evening and And there was a number of times mentioned in commentary, oh, so-and-so is coming on for their debut, so-and-so isn't quite fit, or so and or so-and-so just got international clearance last week and is on the is watching from the stats.
00:25:47
Speaker
So loads of people's teams are going to look different by two or three players come the end of September or middle of October. So i think it's really important that we try and have try and pick up a couple of wins out of the next three, at least. and Two of the next three. yeah and Who are our next three? I know we've got Wrexham and Cov. Is there anyone in between, though? We've got home game on a weeknight, I think, we.
00:26:09
Speaker
Yeah, Stokes is the next home game. yeah Yeah, that is. But that's a little white we way away, isn't it? That's 20th of September, yeah. And I know we've got Coventry after the international break, but i don't know if there's a midweek game in between. The Norwich City fixtures are Coventry, Wrexham, Stoke, West Brom, Scum, Bristol City.
00:26:27
Speaker
So it goes Coventry on the south in the 13th. Nodge are at home on the 20th and that's the Wrexham boys. And then we've then got, so it goes Saturday, Saturday, Saturday.
00:26:38
Speaker
and And then we've got the West Brom game, which is a Wednesday, I think, 7.45. um seven forty five um So, and then, yeah, four days later, we we we play the filth.
00:26:51
Speaker
So if we if we can get ah point at Coventry, beat Wrexham and beat Stoke, Then we go into the West Brom game, who I thought did look good at the weekend. We'll in the top six if we get seven points of the next nine, mate.
00:27:05
Speaker
Well, I think that's what we should be aiming to do. like you know, I feel like we've we've done win one, lose one, win one, lose one. It's time surely now to win a couple. Like we've done a clean sheet.
00:27:17
Speaker
yeah we've We've dominated a couple of halves. Let's now put together a complete performance a couple of times, you know, with maybe maybe one slight wobble in the middle. Yeah, win a home game would be lovely.
00:27:29
Speaker
Wrexham, it feels like, I'm glad they got their win because you don't want it to be you don't want to be beating a team. you still I wouldn't want to play Sheffield United after the international break. I don't know who they've got, but you don't really want to be playing against someone who where the story is ah they're going to win eventually.
00:27:43
Speaker
and But yeah, I think Wrexham at home, maybe maybe that's the one where we we ratchet yeah three goals and and have a comf comfy game. um So something else happened in the week.
00:27:55
Speaker
ah We're not obviously mentioning snakes by names because snakes don't have names. I don't think they they slither around in the jungle and all the rest of it, yeah calling each other names because they can't talk. um They certainly can't spell based on social media today.
00:28:08
Speaker
ah But ah there was a snake that left our nest. Punt, you particularly want to hear a bit more, you said, from Snakegate. snakegate Yeah, I just think the club's messaging around it, look, the club's messaging around it initially when the transfer was formally unveiled was pretty predictable. Oh, yeah, look, we understand, but it was loads of money and we think it's in the best interest of the football club. like Anyone could have written that, but that's that's not a problem.
00:28:37
Speaker
um What is the problem for me is that i i don't I'd like to see, rather than a club statement, I would like to see someone from the club saying, properly front it out. And Manning had to do that on Saturday. And actually I've listened to his comments and I think they're, they're pretty good.
00:28:53
Speaker
um But I'd like to hear Napa. I'd like to hear Napa articulating that he understands the depth of feeling that that has caused, because it has caused, you know, I know, you know, we've talked about it and you two guys are perhaps less hot on it than I am right now, but
Player Transfer Debate
00:29:08
Speaker
you know, it still has caused massive consternation because ultimately for me,
00:29:15
Speaker
It's kind of, we're almost, we've almost conceded that we're the junior partner in East Anglia already, like by by making that sale. It just feels like like that It doesn't feel like that either. I've absolutely taken it that way.
00:29:28
Speaker
um And I just think, you know, kind of actually, all right, they've said that Ipswich were the only show in town. um That was the only bid. I think that the messaging around it should have just been,
00:29:41
Speaker
you can go anyone but them. like It just doesn't happen. it's that's That's just not the way things are done around here. um So I want to hear Napa talk on that. I want to hear Napa convince me and give me really good reasons, not just seven and a half million or 10 million good reasons. I want to hear a bit more about...
00:29:58
Speaker
the fact that they get it um and not just saying, oh I get it actually, you know, kind of really showing that kind of empathy and understanding and realizing that it isn't just going to be Oh, we'll get a couple of wins and they'll all forget about it. Cause it won't be like that. And it won't be like that come 5th of October.
00:30:17
Speaker
um You know, we're all old enough to remember Andy Marshall and coming back, you know, kind of to the Barkley and the fact that it was proper vitriolic and, you know Marshall ultimately let his contract run down, you know, kind of so the club were powerless. we you know, we we still held some power.
Club's Self-Funding Strategy
00:30:34
Speaker
You know, I think maybe we also need to hear from the ownership as well because, you know, kind of they were very much saying we don't have to sell, you know, kind of it's no problem. We're not that kind of club anymore. Yes, it's going to be self-funding model, but actually it's going to be on our terms.
00:30:47
Speaker
And look, the club probably will come back with the retort of that was on our terms. It was stupid money. but I just want to hear that teased out a bit more. I want to hear some, I want to hear the fact that they've critically thought about it.
00:30:59
Speaker
I want to make sure that it's not just a club statement and that it is someone holding their feet to the fire about the situation, whoever that might be, you know, in our, you know kind of very learned local media. I think that that conversation needs to happen.
00:31:13
Speaker
But but didn't didn't they say that? Didn't they explain their critical thinking at the and the Canaries social club thing, which was like that and that evening or the next evening? they They said that it made sense for our football club based upon, you know, we consider age of player, length of contract, contribution, and you know, and there are players in our team that got more assists than he did.
00:31:37
Speaker
Now, I think another difference is you're way higher on him than I am as a player. Yeah. Oh, massively. Yeah. Yeah. so ah He's not, he is not, he wouldn't even be in my top 10 favorite players in the squad, you know, irrelevant of snake game. So but i he, he's, he's, but he, he, he was until this week, a perfectly talented player,
00:31:56
Speaker
whose name I would chant and who I was always pleased to see and had nothing against him at all and would would have looked back on his time at Nodge fondly.
00:32:07
Speaker
However, he just it just is isn't one of my favourite players. and I respect his technical ability, but I also i am i don't overlook the number of times he goes missing for two games at a time. the number of like in the same way lots of other players do, by the way. I was going to say it's the championship. You know, yeah' one hundred percent yeah and exactly. But I just feel like he was given a much easier ride and he was hero worshipped far more than I think he necessarily his statistics, what he achieved with Norwich actually deserved. He didn't score very many free kicks. He didn't score.
00:32:41
Speaker
You know, he didn't put in loads of balls into the box. Now part of that is because he wasn't on every set piece, but it's not we're banging in corners off his headers, you know, banging in headers off his corners all the time. or whatever, like he was taken off them anyway and Wright was on it. But anyway, point is, i I think that is an element of why you particularly are finding it so, so difficult.
00:33:01
Speaker
I certainly don't think that it's a junior partner thing at all. We, I think the messaging made it clear that as far as we're concerned, if there's someone who doesn't want to go, we want them out. If they want to go in there, then we want them out even faster.
00:33:15
Speaker
Because that shows that they really do not get this club and they do not get the culture that we're building. And I think the rest of the players demonstrated on Saturday that they do get it or certainly enough
Morale Boost and Team Unity
00:33:25
Speaker
of them it. Sarge definitely gets it. Yeah, 100%. And Kenny and Harry Darling and Vlad. They really were thumping the right order, in the right magnitude. And it was long...
00:33:37
Speaker
long, hard celebrated away win in terms of, you know, with with the fans afterwards. and And Claire, just to to bring you in on the fee, seven and a half million, and I hope it doesn't rise because I hope there aren't any, i hope none none of the potential positive things happen to that lot.
00:33:57
Speaker
seven half million for someone who is in and out of the team with injury always and is up and down in form anyway. And they've immediately got in Mattson, who's got nice hair.
00:34:08
Speaker
So you know i'm I'm willing to just turn the page, especially after the win yesterday, aren't you? Yes, I am. um I think I'm a bit more rational thinking.
00:34:19
Speaker
um ah I don't know whether it's partly because I don't live in Norfolk. I live in London, so I don't i don't have such... like rose-tinted glasses maybe, I don't know, but I see the club side of it completely. I think it was an exceptional deal for, like you said, a player that's in and out of the team due to injury, whatever.
00:34:39
Speaker
He's never been sort of, he's never It's been a player that starts the game and finishes the game. you know, he rarely lasted 90 minutes. Yeah, he's got some great skills, and but he's replaceable, I think. And hopefully we have sort of replaced him with Mattson, although he's not entirely the same type of player.
00:34:57
Speaker
But I almost think the opposite to John in that maybe we've done the better deal here. agree. They might think that they're the better team because they've got him, but I think maybe it's the other way around.
00:35:11
Speaker
that we we know what he's really like and we've actually got rid of him, got him out of our team and got a really, really decent amount of money for him. We would not pay seven and a half million for him. Having having had him at our club, there's no way we would pay that for him.
00:35:27
Speaker
Ten million. If it ever did get to that, it's crazy. Crazy money. that honking pile of shit down the road have paid basically for likes and clicks, which has then dissipated by needing to be bailed out in a 90, 100 minute equaliser, right?
00:35:45
Speaker
Against struggling Derby. And so, so even some of that balloon has popped in. Yeah. Okay. That might add a little bit of spice and what have you to the fifth, but let's have right. Fifth of October is going be pretty spicy anyway.
00:35:56
Speaker
um And yeah, there will be pantomime villain. um circus villain style but the getting the win was really important getting a clean sheet yeah okay Vlad made a really good save but likewise Sarge again he already should be on about seven headed goals, like headers in particular, you know, that they're the chances he seems to be missing, right?
Impact of Player Departures
00:36:19
Speaker
You know, that sort of performance is just just what the fan base needs. And we played well in the first half, particularly without him. And against 11 men. We were against 11 men. And I think that was the worry for me is that we'd sold him and and I thought we'd only looked good this season when he was on the pitch, you know, consistently. But I think for me,
00:36:40
Speaker
he would probably be more important with the three at the back. And actually, you know, kind of those two that are sitting, having to drive a little bit more, having to be a bit more expansive in a four, two, three, one, where actually the the two sitting can potentially be a lot more defensive and can be a bit more of a shield.
00:36:58
Speaker
It's less of an issue for me. You know, we played Tessie and tribal there, you know, in in that Farker season, you know, for a lot of it. And, you know, that was pretty just, you know solid and, you know, give it to, to those three in front of us that that are going to do the damage.
00:37:11
Speaker
ah we need Matson to be um worth his, his, his wage and worth his relatively modest fee. um and we need between him, right.
00:37:24
Speaker
And Kenny man, obviously suspensions and injuries aside, we have to find that way of, is it two of those three? Is it all three of them against the better team? Is it one of them and Sienac? And when we can then get Jurasek in or whatever, like what, you know, that's the kind of conundrum that he has to solve because either with a three or a four in this flexi system, know,
00:37:47
Speaker
um that is going to be the, that's going to be the, um the crux of whether or not we can create these chances, whether we can get the ball in and around Kvisker and, and, and and diar and out to Diallo with, you know, with diagonals for to run onto down the wing and stuff.
00:38:02
Speaker
That's going to come from that middle, middle, middle area, Darling and, and made it, but they're not, They are not that type of player. They're not going to step up and ping a 40-yard diagonal ball. I really like what we've brought in both of them, as we've you already said, particularly in case of Darling.
00:38:17
Speaker
But yeah they're not they're not Kenny. They're not that snake. they're not They're not going to play one of those amazing 40-yard balls. Darling played a pretty good pass yesterday. And Medici did as well, actually. He did play a 40-yard ball to Kviskorn.
00:38:29
Speaker
But it was more of a hopeful punt in the secret. Yeah, no, don't speak ill of Captain Darling. But no, the there there is a um ah no, there is, it is unfair to expect them to do what they are doing, which is giving us more solidity at the back. You know, the defect, the error errors one between them, they've made one error really between the two of them, the whole, the whole run rest of the time. It's not been those two that's caused the problems. They, they've looked pretty, pretty good.
00:38:55
Speaker
We seem a lot better with crosses, a lot better with balls lumped into the box. You know, the Pompey, we stood up against Pompey. We stood up against Blackburn, you know, when, you know, and to be fair in the, in, um,
00:39:07
Speaker
in the Southampton game, we looked better from, from balls into the box than, it's the stuff in behind that is going to cause Medici problems. yeah Like there's no doubt about that. So, we need, so we need, he needs to fix that kind of creative four, six area.
00:39:19
Speaker
And he needs to work out whether that's Kenny dropping in between the back two and Mattson being, you know, around and Topic, you know, to, two to me is, is Topic and, because I think he has done enough to show that he needs to be in this. So for me, it's, it's Topic, Kenny and how do you play Mattson?
00:39:37
Speaker
and And maybe you switch Mattson and Kenny out to save Kenny's legs and to to breathe to bring Mattson into the team. And likewise, what bring able he's probably going to start Kenny because he's a captain.
00:39:49
Speaker
and But if you can take Kenny off on 60, 65 minutes and Mattson run the midfield for the last half an hour, or you start Mattson and you've got Kenny to come on and see how I game for 25 minutes...
00:40:00
Speaker
Jacob Wright was our best player for the last eight games of last season. Yeah, not started the season well. Maybe this suspension is going to... Is it three games? Yeah, I think is. Because they appealed and they didn't get anywhere. So maybe the suspension would have maybe made him a bit hungrier, a bit humbler.
00:40:16
Speaker
um, he just has to progress the ball more. He's got the ability to do it because we've seen progress it forward. Yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. It's too many just finding the the next immediate person.
00:40:27
Speaker
Um, so is there anything else you wanted to say on, on snake gate or, or are you happy to turn the page? yeah I won't be happy to turn the page for some time, but for the purposes of this podcast and my blood pressure, let's let's turn the page.
00:40:43
Speaker
and So and we've got a ah we've got a little bit of a wait until the and the international break is over, but i would still like your guarantees. So please may have a guarantee for Coventry and a guaranteed scorer as well. And I'm not going to accept Sargent because if we score a goal, then we know that at least one of them will be him.
00:41:06
Speaker
Because in other news, water is still wet. Claire, I will let you go first on this one. I mean, they've they've got off to a good start. They've scored a lot of goals. I'd be happy with a one-all at Cov.
00:41:18
Speaker
And if I can't say Josh, if we're only scoring one goal, that's that's ridiculous. ah It's mathematically impossible, isn't it? you know Yeah, I mean, I can't answer that, can I? um Let's say Sernats.
00:41:32
Speaker
Oh, nice. That would be nice. Because played well yesterday. Much better, much better. Are saying Johnnylicious? I was going to say one all and I was going to say Sernach. So thank you.
00:41:43
Speaker
um crumbs It definitely won't happen now. yeah Then i think we I think we're going to sneak ah Cheeky 2-1 and Chris Goran Kenny Barnstormer.
00:42:00
Speaker
Oh, okay. Lovely. so i think yeah you You looked visibly around there, Tom. Oh, yeah. nice to have him back. but could you well But we know it's the end of the transfer window when Kenny's getting linked with Rangers, bless him. he been linked with Wrexham as well?
00:42:17
Speaker
Yeah. i i who about I think you have, though, Punt. i think i am They offered me a lot of money, but I just couldn't i couldn't leave the pod, mate. so is that Is that right? okay That's it. That's all it was.
00:42:29
Speaker
Yeah. I actually caught quite a bit of the old firm derby today. old firm derby today Rangers Celtic holy it was honking it was awful I saw the XG was like 0.12 versus 0.14 or something Rangers didn't have a shot on target in a derby And Celtic had, I think, their first one in something like the 70th minute or 65th minute. It was all of the summarizers who clearly watch a lot more Scottish football than I do were like, this is this is bad. This is the worst start. I mean, Ross has had a very, very tough start. Four league draws and yeah, that that Cup exit. So I...
00:43:10
Speaker
is hard to It's hard not to feel feel bad for former Canaries who are not maybe ripping up the the league in the way they were maybe expecting to. i wonder if he needs to go abroad maybe because they want they want him out and people yeah cross with Manning. But i mean, he's he's on such a hide into nothing. But he was putting someone they hated him but but the thing is, like he's absolutely known for being fairly left wing. And he's absolutely known for...
00:43:38
Speaker
um being quite a confident lad is probably the best way to put that. And so, you know, if you're, you know, if you're left of centre in Glasgow, so you know, kind of managing that team and then you come out, you know, kind of all guns blazing, which he does, but fair play.
00:43:59
Speaker
that's gonna rub up a hell, you know, or it's gonna rub them up the wrong way. um Yeah, so i I can see why, and I thought it was a really weird move for him, if I'm honest. It was interesting. I watched the the the sort of the Rangers players did like a lap of appreciation And Gilly and Russ stayed in the the dugouts, presumably to prevent the players but receiving boos.
00:44:21
Speaker
Because then as soon as the last player went into the tunnel, they then booed like just the the four or five steps that Russ and and Matt Gill took. um Yeah, anyway, it's it it's an interesting football storyline, but Celtic were crap as well.
00:44:33
Speaker
um But there go. Can't remember how we got onto that, but there we are, we are, but we are.
00:44:41
Speaker
We were ah very sad to learn of the death of former Norwich City forward Jimmy Bone, who scored our first ever top flight goal in 1972. So rest in peace, Jimmy. and One of my dad's favourites.
00:44:53
Speaker
and And yeah, I saw that just before we pressed record on on this Sunday, 31st of August. So yes, rest in peace, Jimmy.
00:45:15
Speaker
It's time for the Long Come Norwich quiz. 90 seconds to name six players based on their position, their last club and next club. Punt, you're up first this week. But... and now they No, no, no. Go on. if There's no but.
00:45:29
Speaker
Your time. I'm going to give player Mark Bowen and Ian Butterworth and, you know, you're going to get someone really fucking obscure here. Sorry, go on, mate. yeah yeah Sign from under 12s.
00:45:42
Speaker
No, no, no. I'm going to do 90 seconds. I think you're going to get six this week. And it's worth pointing out as well. It's worth pointing out that I have checked all of these myself. So...
00:45:56
Speaker
Wikipedia might be wrong, but I have with my own eyes, without even using AI, actually looked at Wikipedia for all of these. So if they're wrong, as Wikipedia's for, or also could be human error in me copying and pasting or like writing them into my phone. That's also possible as well. How are you feeling? Confident, Punt?
00:46:15
Speaker
um After the debacle of the first two quizzes, um I'll take your word for how accurate they are, mate. um Yeah. Bring it on. 90 seconds. Your time.
00:46:27
Speaker
Don't forget to write them down, Claire, if you know them as well. Your time starts now. A forward who joined Norwich from Toulouse in 2001 and whose next club was Quatre et Lucie-Tonelns.
00:46:40
Speaker
yeah Is that Mark Libra? Bless you. It was, yeah. A midfielder who joined Norwich from Manchester United in 1999 and whose next club was Cardiff City.
00:46:51
Speaker
Film or rhyme. Correct. A defender who joined Norwich from Oldham Athletic in 1991 and whose next club was Rotherham.
00:47:03
Speaker
Ooh.
00:47:10
Speaker
Colin Woodthorpe? No. A defender who joined Norwich from Peterborough United in 2001 and whose next club was Leeds United. Adam Drury.
00:47:21
Speaker
Correct. I completely forgot about the Leeds thing until I saw it. Yeah, I had. Sorry, it's your time. Yeah, go on mate. It's your time I'm wasting. A forward who joined Norwich from Wimbledon in 2001 and whose club was... Great Nielsen. Correct.
00:47:37
Speaker
And finally, a defender who joined Norwich from Everton in 1996 and whose next club was Wigan. Matt Jackson. Correct. but then, do you want have one more chance? You've got about 10 seconds left. I should get about 50 seconds, the amount of time you've wasted. Go on. Oldham Athletic, the same for both teams. Oldham Athletic, 1991, whose next club was Rotherham.
00:47:58
Speaker
1991, oh. No, I'm not going to get that. That's your time gone.
00:48:06
Speaker
So do you want to have a guess for a steal? Because he's scored very, very well there. got five, basically. 1991? yeah
00:48:17
Speaker
I was thinking of someone who... 343 appearances, 12 goals. For Norwich? Yeah.
00:48:26
Speaker
was thinking of Fleming, but that was too early. John Colston's too early. Fleming is right, so say Fleming. Oh, it is Fleming. Fleming didn't join club 1991. That's what it said on the Wikipedia. This is the bullshit again, mate.
00:48:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:43
Speaker
No way he was in United Nations world. I looked earlier today. He won the league in 2005. 2001? 2001? No, 1997. No, I've read the one as a seven. I've read the seven as a one.
00:48:59
Speaker
um but I'd have probably got that. I'd get two points for still saying Fleming. Yeah, well, no, you still got you were closer. Right, so you're already on one, Claire, so you need you need four more of these.
00:49:11
Speaker
I'm not having that. This is so on brand. This is ridiculous. It's the same for both teams. No, um it's not. It's really not, mate. It's always mine. Fucking hell. Who knows what's coming? Your time, Claire, starts now. a central midfielder who joined Norwich from 20 in 2013 and whose next club was
00:49:38
Speaker
joined from where? Dutch team. In 2013. In what year, sorry? 2013. And then went to QPR. Oh, God.
00:49:53
Speaker
I can't think. Blank. I've gone blank. I'll come back to that one. A forward who joined Norwich from Newcastle United in 1999. And next club was Blackpool in 2002. in two thousand and two No.
00:50:07
Speaker
right and ah Then we have a defender who joined Norwich from Celtic in 1998 and whose next club was West Ham.
00:50:18
Speaker
Malky. Ford who joined Norwich from Leicester in 2006 and who then retired in 2008.
00:50:29
Speaker
No. Ewan Roberts? No. A winger who joined Norwich from Birmingham City in 2013 and whose next club was Southampton. Nathan Redmond. Yes. go Going back to where we were before at the start, you've got a Dutch midfielder who joined in 2013 and whose next club was QPR. Played
00:50:52
Speaker
in the World Cup. Oh, Leroy Fair? Yeah. he Always Dutch to play in the World Cup. Fucking hell. And he scored a goal. Right, your your time the time is up.
00:51:03
Speaker
and So... That was terrible. Well, we've ended up you've ended up losing five four that's if we That's if we give you a point which which really was due to me reading a a one as a seven. i The other way around, a seven as a one. and that's the That's the thing. Every quiz, you've done something...
00:51:22
Speaker
I love the fact that Chris is back. It's brilliant. I'm shit at it. Who was the one from Newcastle? Paul Douglas.
00:51:35
Speaker
Ah. I've never that in a million years. And then Dion. Dublin. Oh, Dion. Yeah. I knew it wasn't you. Did he come from Leicester, Dion? Yeah. i Well, chapman I'm going to check it again now. but Yeah, probably best. I think it was.
00:51:48
Speaker
and ah Oh, dear. Yeah. He came from, yeah, no, Leicester and then Celtic. I missed that bit. He played he had 11 performances for Celtic.
00:52:02
Speaker
But you wouldn't have got it. oh I had one as well. I might have got it with a Celtic bit. I might have got it. with yeah but so did i Yeah, I overlooked that um on Wikipedia because it goes Leicester City, appearances and five goals.
00:52:15
Speaker
um See, ironically, I really tried this week to make to make it accurate. I didn't even use AI. That's just that's how bad my brain is. Anyway, it's the same for both teams if your team is called punt. Can I just also say as well that we haven't done anything with the listener questions because they might nearly all have been snake related.
00:52:35
Speaker
Yeah, and we've we've snaked enough, I think, on on on today ah today's pod. So that brings us to the conclusion of another lovely period of time supporting this beautiful football club.
00:52:46
Speaker
and The snake will fuck off. Already dead to me. Not interested. I'm happy to move on. Punt, I genuinely... i know I do feel such empathy because it does feel like you were more emotionally hurt by it than I was. I sort felt angry and a bit sick. Just imagine if Kenny goes to Rangers in the next, you know, 24 hours, mate. I won't have a problem with him going to Rangers. That's not the same.
00:53:07
Speaker
it's it's not' but But it's not the same. I mean, the point is it would be, it would be for me, it would the equivalent would would be Kenny. It would be Kenny doing it. So if Kenny went to... they mal yeah Yeah, exactly. i would That would be horrendous. and yeah Because I've got lots of other things tied up within him as well. But he wouldn't do it. He wouldn't do it in a million years. Of course he wouldn't. genuinely, when...
00:53:33
Speaker
genuinely i is when I get it and I get because I can obviously, I've been disappointed when players have gone before and I've been, you know, heartbroken when we sold people, especially when I was younger that, you know, we've hoped to have stayed around longer. And and i think the, I really, I really needed the win yesterday.
00:53:52
Speaker
and you know, celebrated it a lot harder than i would typically celebrate a 2-0 against a team that isn't really a rival this early in the season when we don't know whether Black, yeah, that could be,
00:54:04
Speaker
Three points we look back on and go, well, yeah, obviously we won there because they went down. Or, oh, Krom's there. They're they their seventh, eighth in in the playoff mix at the end of the season. So that could have been, that could look an amazing, but who knows? But it was a catharsis there. And you felt that from the players as well, I think. And you saw that from the way they celebrated with the fans.
00:54:21
Speaker
So, yeah, I hope you feel better over the the international break and and it's you start to get to that place. ah I don't think you're going to get any more chat, though, from Napa. I think they are over the moon that they won and will use the fact that they won and use the international break to go, let's actually yeah flood the socials with stuff that's everything but that. Let's batten hatches, yeah yeah. Yeah, and let's, you know, but if we come back and have a positive performance and and result, which we've all predicted Cotov,
00:54:47
Speaker
and um i think i think I don't know if I said my prediction, but obviously it's 4-0. Then we will ah we will we will, again, not hear any more about it because we'll further away. and And then it will be in the week leading up to playing the scum. That will be when maybe there is a little bit more that comes from the club around you know reasons. But look if if we've won two or the next three or...
00:55:10
Speaker
two in a couple of draws, whatever, we're going to be feeling so good at going into that game. Again, maybe the club don't want to kind of peel that onion back and and come back again. and So enjoy international break. I hope you're feeling more positive about life soon.
00:55:26
Speaker
And for everyone at home, mind how you