Casual Catch-Up and Awkwardness
00:00:00
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Hey, Chris. Hi, Eames. What's up? I have to tell you something. Oh my god. Okay. Should i three-way Peyton in? Yeah, call P. Okay. Hello? Hey, Eames needs to tell us something. I'm three-waying you in. Okay, immediately.
00:00:13
Speaker
Okay, so... Hey, guys. so today we're going to be doing a little catch-up episode. um We're just shooting this shit today. Yeah. Not even catch-up, necessarily. I just, like, have some bullet points of things I wanted to say.
00:00:28
Speaker
Well, I feel like I'm behind on y'all's lives. So I need to know like what's going on. you know what I'm saying? You're weird or not though, because I just freaking saw you. Yeah. How was your guys' this trip?
00:00:40
Speaker
Let's start there. It was good, but I only saw you for one night and I was blackout. You know, I was blackout. So I don't remember what was going on. But I like kind of blacked out a little bit at Drinkers and then I came back to life after, you know?
00:00:52
Speaker
Yeah. So we went to Joe's game. We pre-gamed good amount, I would say. we went, we were just like, ke okay, well, have a question. Like, were you kind of nervous because we hadn't seen each other in a while? Like if it would be a little awkward?
00:01:08
Speaker
No, I was nervous that Joe was going to go in and pitch poorly. Oh, that's interesting. I was nervous that like we hadn't really seen each other. You're always nervous though. And like i was going to maybe be a little awkward. And then it wasn't awkward at all. So that's good.
Fame, Phillies, and Fun Nights
00:01:21
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But like I've recently been hanging out with my friends that I haven't seen in while. They're like my best friends and it's been feeling really awkward. Not you, but like I've been like in my awkward era.
00:01:31
Speaker
Maybe I was thinking about it too much. I definitely am. And it's like you're not fucking taking back shots like you used to. yeah Taking back shots. Taking back shots.
00:01:42
Speaker
Taking – well, you are taking back shots. Thank you. I am. Thank you. But you're not taking back tequila shots. Yeah. I need to – yeah. Well, anyways, we had a really fun drunk night and I had a bunch of shots when me and Peyton went out. And also Peyton got recognized and Darren was like – what?
00:02:02
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And then like Joe walks in, who's like a pitcher on the team that everyone's obsessed with. And everyone's like, Oh my God, Peyton. Oh my God, Peyton. It's like, oh yeah, let's keep him in this place.
00:02:13
Speaker
Poor Joe. I mean, he doesn't expect it. He's also new. He's fresh. Um, and I don't want him to be too well known because I don't want him to, again, if he has a bad game, you know, get like in-person death threats, like he gets on comments.
00:02:28
Speaker
Yeah. Those comments are fucking crazy. Yeah. And they aren't even, those aren't even the worst. Like it was just, yeah, that's a lot. So anyway, um we had a great time and I am obsessed with going to Phillies games now. Darren really like broken Xfinity live for me. And now I go there all the time.
00:02:48
Speaker
Really? Oh, how fun. and Because he's such a fan. Well, yeah, he was just telling me all about it. And like most people here, like, no Xfinity Live is like a big deal here. it's like you go there before you go to any of the games because it's like Xfinity Live is like right in the middle of all the stadiums.
00:03:02
Speaker
Wait, so what is that? It's just like a group of like bars, basically, like one place. and there's like It's like a strip mall. At every place in the strip mall is a bar and it's all connected like a food court.
00:03:14
Speaker
Oh my God. I know. It's food court of bars. That's fun. Yeah. I feel like we should do a Philly weekend and y'all should come to Philly and we should just do a whole
Wedding Planning and Sweet Texts
00:03:22
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ordeal. I'm down. I've never done Philly. And I'm really down.
00:03:25
Speaker
It's literally my favorite place I've ever been. I feel like I would say a come when Joe's not here, but I also feel like we should go to a Phillies game. So... Yeah.
00:03:36
Speaker
And also I should meet him at some point before the wedding. Oh my gosh. I forgot you even met him. but Can you hear In real life. But I really have any other updates besides just like wedding planning and living my life and trying not to like you know, be overwhelmed by everything all the time. yeah What about y'all? What do you, what do we just want to get on to what we're going to talk about because we don't have that many updates?
00:03:57
Speaker
Yeah, we can. Anyone want to start with a bullet point? Yeah. So I've been doing this a new bit where I'm like sending really earnest texts to friends to see how they react.
00:04:10
Speaker
yeah I haven't gotten one. What? Or was I was i drunk? Peyton, like, we literally have been out at a restaurant crying, laughing, like, choosing a really sweet text to send you randomly for no reason because we know that, like, you're just that. Have responded to them or did even look at them? Yeah, and you've been really confused and it's just been, like, us one-on-one. No, you don't say anything like that. Am okay?
00:04:37
Speaker
You're like, what made you think of this? Like, you'll say something really funny. And, Peyton, we've been crying, laughing, drafting up the texts. Yeah. Okay, wait, why did I not remember any this? started doing the bit because someone sent an earnest text and then sent something to him on and she had ChatGBT literally write out like an eight sentence thing about like, and it was so genuine being like.
00:05:04
Speaker
She had to use ChatGBT to make a genuine text. Yeah, exactly. To her friend. you remember what it said? um No, but show Peyton's and then I'll show you what was. Okay. It just looked at mine.
00:05:15
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So the ones i well, I sent the,
00:05:21
Speaker
I sent the the monkey one that said, this is kind of how it started. ho, our friendship healed me by the way. Cause like, it was like a meme, right? Yeah.
00:05:34
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And so i sent that to Peyton and, And she said this was so profound. Such a her answer, but also not a reaction. Then this was a copy and paste from, i think, something I sent you.
00:05:49
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this was also weeks ago. Like, this was multi-weeks ago. Multi-weeks ago. got it. Also, that the word earnest, like, I personally wouldn't know what that meant. Basically, what Kristen's doing is she's sending overly sweet text messages for no reason.
00:06:04
Speaker
And it's like kind of cringe. You kind of know if she's joking, but it's like a bit. Right. Like you don't know whether because that's the thing with me. I can go both ways. Yes. I can be really deep. Yes.
00:06:16
Speaker
So it's like. It's kind of like, I don't know. It's just it's a really good bit. Then I sent one that says, have I told you today how grateful I am for you with hearts?
00:06:27
Speaker
Yeah. And then you said, why are you saying that?
00:06:34
Speaker
I love that she's like, i haven't gotten any earnest texts. yeah Honestly, I learned the word earnest and I ran. like, I don't really know what it means even though we're using it right now, but I know the context. So that helps me, but I couldn't use in a sentence otherwise. It's like very honestly sweet. Like it's something you like genuinely mean in an an honest kind way.
00:06:56
Speaker
Anyways. What's next? So, new bit, then earnest text, see how friends react. And also, by the way, when I said, why are you saying that, you didn't respond.
00:07:08
Speaker
No explanation. Okay, good. um But I kind of I want you to pull up your chat GBT one. Oh, well, the only way to get Kristen is to overly do a back to her so much so that she then gets weirded out. She sent me a nice text. I was like, I'm to nip this in the bud right now because she's going to keep doing this and it's going to fucking piss me off.
00:07:27
Speaker
So she sent me. ah here we go. Kristen sent me a TikTok and the text over it said, when I'm doubting myself, but then remember I'm friends with the coolest and baddest divas, so I must be doing something right.
00:07:43
Speaker
And I was like, i like, she had already sent a couple earnest texts to me. So I was like, I need to get rid of this right now. So I put in chat GPT, I said, sweet response to a friend that told me I'm the sweetest, coolest, baddest diva ever. I want the response to be five sentences long and overly gracious for her calling me that.
00:08:00
Speaker
And this is what I texted her back.
00:08:03
Speaker
OMG, stop it right now. I'm blushing and floating at the same time. Coming from you, the ultimate icon and queen of kindness. That is the highest honor I could ever receive. I don't know what I did to deserve such words, but I will be holding on to them forever like the compliment hoarding gremlin I am.
00:08:17
Speaker
You just made my entire day, week, and probably the rest of the year. I'm putting this out and framing it. um Truly the sweetest, coolest, modest, even the room is clearly you for saying that to
Family Misunderstandings and Friendship
00:08:26
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me. And then she just responded, no.
00:08:28
Speaker
No. I outbidded her and then she couldn't take it. I had to get out of the bit. Yeah. And that I can't compete. Yeah. And she like hasn't really done it since. Which then I had to ask, like, did you use chat GBT or was that like off the noggin? Because the gremlin part threw me that I was like, that is like giving not chat GBT. That's giving a little on the nose.
00:08:50
Speaker
like chat gbt like has a personality they're getting smart they're learning my personality yeah so yeah new bit alert girl okay try it out try it with your friends yeah send a really earnest text to your friend that you're like never overly lovey-dovey with yeah specifically or like an ex-best friend dude um Also, news.
00:09:18
Speaker
Met the fam. Things are getting serious.
00:09:23
Speaker
They were so confused by us. You met the fam. What do you mean? Kristen met my family. i let her meet my family one time. She let meet my family. And it was my mom's birthday.
00:09:36
Speaker
and I met everyone. Like my aunts, my mom, my mom's best friends. And...
00:09:45
Speaker
Like, how would you describe that? I think that no one understands us. Like, your friends didn't didn't get us because she, like, said something about, like, I can i can say that joke on here.
00:09:58
Speaker
What? That I took a picture of you guys and you said you're not in this because you're white. Yeah. Well, no, because like, obviously know you're fucking joking.
00:10:11
Speaker
And then your friends are like, Iman. And I'm like, no, you guys, I can't. forgot I was like in public and people who like don't get it. And so she took a family, ah like a family photo of me and everyone were obviously all black. And I was like, you can't be in it because you're white. And everyone was like, oh, wow.
00:10:27
Speaker
And was like, oh my God, Kristen. Like, I'm sorry. Jeez. It so embarrassing. And then also she has – is it your cousin? yes That's it.
00:10:38
Speaker
Yeah. Her cousin is in ah biracial is a lesbian in a biracial relationship. And um they were projecting onto us. They are convinced we are in love because they were like –
00:10:55
Speaker
It's just like so confusing because we'll be like so vulnerable and honest and and they'll be like, well, what's your favorite part of Kristen? And Iman was like, I'm not going to answer that in front of her. Like like in a it's a flirty way. Like, yeah, they were like picking up on that as being flirtatious. Right. Like they were picking up our like bit as like flirtation.
00:11:16
Speaker
And so they are convinced that we're going to end up together. I mean, can i just say y'all's relationship on this podcast is like last like the last episode I at least just listened to and approve. It's like you guys talking about how much you genuinely despise each other sometimes.
00:11:31
Speaker
No, no you I want to come back around and say I never clarified that I love Iman. I realized that I was like... and Making it sound like I don't.
00:11:42
Speaker
i Our whole bit, i think I said our lore instead of our bit is that we hate each other. but also it is very much just about the like, what you see is what you get.
00:11:55
Speaker
aspect. Don't you think? Yes. But it yeah, i was like underlying I was like, wait, is that sounding like I don't actually like her? Cause I, I didn't really clarify. I think I, i was a little drunk. That was a second episode. We recorded that recorded that day and I was a little lit, but yeah, love
Social Media Trends and Critiques
00:12:12
Speaker
the girl. I mean, if you couldn't tell by the other words I was saying about her, you had to just, you know, had to be there. You had to listen around the, what I was saying anyways. Yeah. She met my family and It was a blast, but yeah.
00:12:29
Speaker
Everyone was confused, basically. Literally everyone. Um, well, I do have something I want to talk about because I've been seeing it all over social media and it's really been bothering me.
00:12:42
Speaker
Um, it's a trend, all of that for sure. Um, something that bothers me almost even more almost is have y'all seen the trend of the morning shed?
00:12:52
Speaker
Yeah. I want to know if these girls doing the morning shed are sleeping next to men or not. Well, here's the thing. That's like consumerism core. Like, you know how i like to consume. I consume a lot, but I don't consume to the level of sheet mask on, eye things on bonnet on.
00:13:10
Speaker
i mean, first of all, if I slept with a bonnet on, Joe, I would never hear the end of it. Joe would never stop talking about it. He would take a thousand photos. I'd be too embarrassed. He would make it like a thing.
00:13:21
Speaker
I only do when I'm alone in my home, but it's really helped my hair. I'm going to be honest. No, it's really good for you. Like so on it is, uh, yeah. It's obviously the thing to do, but I've seen so many tech talks about people being like mad that white women do that. And then some people being like, not mad that white women do that.
00:13:39
Speaker
And all the comments would be like black women in the comments being like, I'm dying laughing that y'all are like doing this in secret, like hiding in your houses with your bonnets on. Cause it's like actually helpful and you don't want do anyone to know. because you don't want to offend anyone they're like i am dead they are doing this secretly yeah because you're scared but anyways there's the bonnet and then there's like other get up like there's so much going in the mouth tape like everything i'm like how do you do that every single night yeah it's the mouth tape and then the sleep in mask and then the eye yeah it's everything it's a lot but like how was that staying on and also like how are you not getting stuff all over your sheets you know i'm saying
00:14:19
Speaker
Yeah. don't get it. hate it. i can't even look at it when I see it come up on my For You page. I can't look at it. So I will not be partaking in the um morning shed trend.
00:14:32
Speaker
I just hate like all of the the trends. How like now everyone's just like all of a sudden – Today, everyone is just saying this is all that matters anyway or whatever.
00:14:48
Speaker
is allll i forgot what this is all about. This is all about. And if I see one more fucking person say this in Yap, I'm going
00:14:58
Speaker
This and yap is over. This and yap is over. That one's like, that one's old. you think it is? And then someone will fucking use the word yap and you're like, oh my God. is it the word yap or is it this and yap that you don't like? No, it's things, it's things so quickly and so like so quickly getting so big and it's like, and don't know.
00:15:22
Speaker
A trend. You don't like trends. I get a trend. I get a trend. I understand some trend trends and I'm like, oh, that's cute, like how you did it. But I think, I don't know. So I'm just like, trigger me. Do you guys not relate?
00:15:33
Speaker
No. um Not really. i mean, I guess it depends on the trend. Yeah. I think like a lot of it though is like the social media managers getting lazy. I think a lot of the like oversaturation of a lot of different trends are like for one,
00:15:50
Speaker
Social media people and social media managers are getting lazy and they like don't know what to do. So they're just like following all the trends as they come instead just like making interesting stuff. And then also it's people that like – are trying to get ahead of the trend, but it takes like so long for them to like come around to it. So then it just, and then don't get me started on reels. It's like this and YAP is probably just starting on reels today. So it's like, it has to go do that. It's got to do the meta, the metaverse of it all. So it's like after.
00:16:20
Speaker
I don't and it's probably still doing well like right now. So it's probably at least for another month or so going to be hitting the streets hard. So I just know I get it. I try to remind myself like it's a game.
Iman's Hinge Date and TV Show Coincidences
00:16:38
Speaker
Can we switch the topic because this is getting boring? Yeah. Iman, didn't you say you have like a bunch of stuff to talk about? Yeah. Come on. Serve it up. It's not like all about um me talking. Okay. Well, I thought something that I should share that I don't think I have yet is did I tell you guys about when my hinge date died?
00:16:57
Speaker
No. but or Before we got a chance to go on a date. Oh, no. He died before we went on the date. So you thought he was ghosting?
00:17:08
Speaker
Not necessarily. Like we were talking on Hinge and then he texted me and moved over to the texting phase. I thought he was really cute. I was like, oh my God, exactly my type, literally exactly my type.
00:17:20
Speaker
And we were kind of texting back and forth. We'd made plans once, one of us canceled. The next time, i can't remember. And then my friend was having a pool party and i was supposed to go to the pool party that Sunday. And he was also going to be there.
00:17:35
Speaker
He dies on... He dies on like a Wednesday or something. and i find out because my friend texts me a screenshot of his Instagram profile and was like, how do you know this person? I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. Like – Is he dating someone? Does he have a girlfriend? Like, I'm nervous. I'm freaked out.
00:17:54
Speaker
I obviously tried to downplay it. I was like, oh, like, we literally just, like, matched on hinge ones. Like, it's not really, like, serious. Why? Like, what what's going on? And she was like, well, you follow him. And he, like, just passed away. So I was just wondering, like, if you know what happened. And I was like, hmm.
00:18:10
Speaker
Okay. So, yeah, he died. And it was, like, a random death. Like, he got a really bad cold one time and died. and Oh my God.
00:18:23
Speaker
Yeah. And then my friend when was this was like in June, maybe. Oh, yes. I was going to say, why is this kind of sounding familiar? But i don't know. wow It was like June or maybe early July.
00:18:38
Speaker
i think we're going to Bryce's house like the same day. Yeah. That this happened. And yeah then my friend whose pool party was was like, oh my God, you guys really would have hit it off. He just got this great job, but blah, blah, blah. And I was like, okay, honestly, like I know you're mourning your friend, but like, can you actually not talk about how much we would have hit it off? Because it's like kind of pissing me off that like we were supposed to go on a date. And I know I don't know him and you do. And like, you're trying to talk about it, but like, I just don't want to hear it.
00:19:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That is crazy. i don't know how I didn't know about this. Yeah, I realized I was like forgetting to tell people. Yeah. Because it just felt normal, I guess. I was like, oh, he died.
00:19:19
Speaker
Anyways. he died. Anyway. Anywho. That is so morbid. Have you guys ever seen the show? I've been telling you to watch it ah Survival of the Thickest.
00:19:30
Speaker
No. Okay, well, I've been watching it. And because I like love like silly sitcoms like that. And I love the main girl. She's a comedian. Couldn't tell you her name. I'm horrible at names.
00:19:42
Speaker
um But she wrote this show and I just like, honestly, I've been watching so much TV. I put it on. Anyway. I'm high as fuck. It starts. She's a stylist. I don't even know what's about her being a stylist.
00:19:56
Speaker
And then she's like working under some guy that's like, um you know, super toxic. Like she wants to be head stylist, blah, blah, blah.
00:20:07
Speaker
First job is with ah like Lizzo and her dancers or something. Like all of these things are just like, I'm just like, her oh, oh, oh, weird.
00:20:19
Speaker
Then you guys. I was like shitting myself. ah she fucking um starts working for this woman and she has a bulldog. I'm like, oh my God, another fucking weird you know, thing of all dogs, they like pick a bulldog.
00:20:36
Speaker
The bulldog's name was Kristen. no Wait, give some context about the bulldog. Yeah. But also like, well, I have bulldogs. I'm like a bulldog girly. And you also are styling Lizzo right now. Right.
00:20:50
Speaker
and And you haven't reached like head stylist really yet. Yeah, i have. Like in some spaces you have. No, I have in all. Oh, really? Uh-huh. Oh, nice. Okay.
00:21:00
Speaker
Trying to make a joke. Didn't work. No. yeah It's like, you know, bleep it era. No, yeah. Into, you know, whatever. It was just like so funny because it was just like one like little thing after another and I'm just like stoned and I'm like, no, I'm being a narcissist.
00:21:20
Speaker
Yeah. And then the fucking dog's name being Kristen. I was like, no, what? Also, that's such a random name for a dog, Kristen. so It's so random.
00:21:33
Speaker
So someone stalking me and writing shows about me. Wouldn't be the first time. Wouldn't be be the second either.
Unfollowing After Death: Social Etiquette
00:21:44
Speaker
next thing I want to talk about is like, We kind of touched on this, the Instagram unfollowing after someone dies. so I know right away you're going to like, oh my God, why would you unfollow someone, et cetera, et cetera.
00:22:00
Speaker
I agree. I agree. i don't know that you should be unfollowing right after someone dies. But recently I was in, this wasn't recently, it was a while back. I was at a group of friends.
00:22:11
Speaker
And we were talking about how, you know, they would never unfollow someone after they died. I shared that I had unfollowed someone a couple years after they died. And everyone looked at me like I was the fucking meanest, rudest, gremlin, like, evil, bad person of all time. But it's like, if you really do think about it.
00:22:33
Speaker
Who cares? Right. I mean, there are there are people that have died that I've unfollowed. So it's like- So then when I brought this up to you, why would you not bring that up and make me feel seen the situation? Because scenario was like people that you knew intimately and that had just died.
00:22:53
Speaker
I didn't unfollow them right after they died. yeah I think you said that. I did not. Okay, well, that's a good... That's an important caveat. But anyway, i mean...
00:23:05
Speaker
You're not the devil. It just depends on the scenario. I just think when you say it out loud, they and they died and I unfollowed them on Instagram, it inherently sounds bad. But if i just want everyone- Because shouldn't be in the same sentence.
00:23:19
Speaker
Yeah. So like, I just want everyone to like think about it deeper and also think like, yes, but also who cares? Like, what does that matter? you feel like people have been judging you?
00:23:31
Speaker
Yeah. Did you follow unfollow your hinge date that died and how soon after? Hmm. And are all your topics on death today?
00:23:44
Speaker
Well, I think I was thinking about one and then led me to my next one. I that answer. Did you unfollow him and how soon after?
00:23:56
Speaker
her pain And I would like for us to move on. No, it was right after, wasn't it? It was before the play party. It's getting really morbid now and it's freaking
Kristen's Palm Reader Encounter
00:24:04
Speaker
me out. I think we change the topic before everyone gets creeped out.
00:24:08
Speaker
Anyone have something else they want to talk about? Oh my That means you don't want to answer? Before people get all creeped out. Yeah, seriously, like this is weird. And like, I'm not going to answer that.
00:24:19
Speaker
Should I talk about the weird palm reader guy at Starbucks? Yeah, that was weird. That told you about? Yeah. The most bizarre thing, I'm like fucking sitting at Starbucks one day um editing and I have both the dogs and um there's these two guys that like sit kind of close to me and they're like playing with the dogs or whatever.
00:24:41
Speaker
One of them comes up to me um after like them sitting there for like 45 minutes and – and he's like um He's like, hey, have you ever had your palm read?
00:24:54
Speaker
And of course, I'm fucking eating it up. And I'm like, um like not my palm, but like I've had a reading or whatever. And he's like, well, do you want your palm read? And I was like, yeah. And he was like, okay, let me see it.
00:25:07
Speaker
And I like put my ah my hand out and he goes, okay, stretch it bigger. and I was like, okay. And he was like, he was like you're going to have a very successful career.
00:25:18
Speaker
you're going to have two kids and like was saying these things. And um I was like all earnest.
00:25:32
Speaker
And I said, does it say anything about love? See, like sometimes you just say like the craziest like serious stuff ever. Does it say anything about Like, shut up.
00:25:47
Speaker
I mean, literally shut up. Why did you ask him that? Okay. Anyways, keep going.
00:25:55
Speaker
I know. It's so embarrassing. It's literally so embarrassing. And he was like, it's so
00:26:07
Speaker
And he was like, yes, but are you sure you want to know? And I was like, I don't know. And he was like, He was like, I mean, it's it's good, but like, are you sure you want to know? And I was like, I don't know, maybe not.
00:26:20
Speaker
And then we got in this like deep conversation about how hard it is for, um you know, guys to approach girls because like, you know, girls only – he's like, i don't I don't want to like – I can't even remember how it started. he It was honestly very smooth. And then I started to be like, oh, this man's hitting on me. He's not actually reading my palm.
00:26:46
Speaker
Here's the thing, Kristen. I have so many things to say about this. Okay. Yeah. okay yeah You live in Los Angeles, California. That's one of the most amazing cities in the entire world.
00:26:57
Speaker
Why are you at fucking Starbucks working like you're back in Tulsa? That's number one. Number two, point oh why anyone working at a Starbucks?
00:27:09
Speaker
Their app and their like rewards. I'm outside at a Starbucks. I'm in like the shopping center because I was getting my car washed in the... That on the you you wouldn't get it. Okay, anyway, you are in a Starbucks and the sketchiest people ever are at Starbucks literally all the time. Like the other people working there are, I'm just, I don't trust them.
00:27:32
Speaker
So you also let him come over and touch your hand. And then you get in a deep talk. Does it say, instead of you being like, oh, okay, thank you. You're like, wait, does it say anything about love?
00:27:47
Speaker
I just get this like there's you in the Starbucks with this random guy that's now touching you. And I like zoom out like further out of the store. And I'm just like, what is that bitch doing in there? and now this guy is hitting on her.
00:28:00
Speaker
He probably thought you were hitting on him back. Does it say anything about love?
00:28:14
Speaker
So then like during our conversation, you know, I start to realize like, oh, this this man's like, I guess he's just like hitting on me. So I'm like, wait, how do you know my name?
00:28:25
Speaker
And he goes, looked at my laptop and I was like, i have nothing that says my name. Like, how does this man know my name? Yeah.
00:28:41
Speaker
Yeah, I think you need to get out of Starbucks, my girl. Also, did he ever say anything about love? Okay, so well but we were talking about, like, we we got in this combo about how girls only like to be approached if it's someone they want to be approached by, and so it's hard. Yeah, shit. Yeah, and then he's like, he then starts giving me advice and says, i don't want to, like, mansplain or anything. He's like, I just want to tell you.
00:29:10
Speaker
If you look anyone in the eyes and smile um and also take your headphones off, he's like, you can get anyone you want. Great. Thanks, guy. i don't give fuck. And was like, okay. So I have working by myself, like seemingly alone with my headphones off smiling. At every man making eye contact.
00:29:32
Speaker
I don't know. Like he was he was giving me this like advice. Also, he shouldn't be giving it to me because I would have never gone on a date with this guy in my fucking life. Then at the end of it, he doesn't even ask for my number anything. He doesn't even end up hitting on me Then you're left kind of like wanting him like, oh. Not even. i was left being like, what the fuck just happened? What was the point of that?
00:29:54
Speaker
was like, you weren't reading my palm, but you also weren't. may He probably changed his mind after I was like, fell for his tricks. And he was like, this bitch really thinks I'm.
Reality TV and Personal Experiences
00:30:09
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Okay, well, Iman, do you have anything else to add in your various bullet points of things to talk about? Yes, one sec. I'm silencing my um notifications, but I don't actually know how to do that, so I'm just clicking buttons.
00:30:30
Speaker
Whatever, let's just hope that doesn't happen again. There is new um New York boy lore. yeah. and Okay. Do y'all remember New York boy? He is the like model type.
00:30:42
Speaker
And DJ. And DJ that Kristen had a fling with last year? Question mark? Yeah. Yeah. Last year. Yeah. Like this time last year, basically.
00:30:52
Speaker
um My friend Molly was watching old Vanderpump Rules episodes and he was on there going out on Days for He is literally everywhere. Y'all, this is also just to jog your memory.
00:31:08
Speaker
i met this man at some point, like literally 10 years ago. Don't remember how, don't remember what was going on. It was not, I think he was talking to my friend or was like friends with my friend. um But anyway, I met him forever ago. And then I met him, we me and Kristen saw him out in LA like 10 years later.
00:31:26
Speaker
And i he came up to me and was like, oh, Peyton. And I was like, i have no idea. like I knew him, but I didn't know where I knew him from or whatever. But I did remember that our other friend like was going on dates with him, like probably the year prior to us seeing him.
00:31:41
Speaker
I'm like, how the fuck are you everywhere? Everywhere. And I'm just like, how did that? That's just such, i don't watch Vanderpump. Like I've obviously like seen episodes and like,
00:31:52
Speaker
whatever. But I'm just like, how is that lore that I didn't know? Like, you think, you know, a man and then he comes up old episodes of, well, that's actually something that's interesting. I've noticed lately. i am not a big reality show girl. Like I'll do the bachelor sometimes.
00:32:09
Speaker
And I can't necessarily watch all the episodes, but when I was young, my mom used to watch the bachelor, like we watched it together. so like I would watch it with her and now like sometimes I'll tune in, but I'm not really involved in any type of like reality TV fandom.
00:32:23
Speaker
Me neither. I feel like y'all aren't either. No, I'm not either. and i But i am in we're into the niche reality shows. We've talked about this. We love um the D'Amelio's one, ah Sylvester Stallone's.
00:32:39
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Well, here's my thing. I um very all or nothing in every area of my life. So I feel like the more popular mainstream reality TV shows, i can just tell that those have been you know produced by a producer and edited to make you feel a certain way. And so if I'm watching reality, I'm expecting for this to be real or else I'd rather just be watching scripted. So like Kardashian doesn't have any appeal because it's so heavily like scripted, but I feel like the ones that are so random and are of random families
00:33:13
Speaker
feel more real because it's like you can't hide the dynamic and they like are they're searching for the numbers it's like us it's like we put out so much tea because we're just like we have a small audience right now if you're listening like you get the fucking tea kind of thing and yeah if you're it's like the Kardashians can't put out like they can't the real tea yeah yeah Yeah, i but I sometimes I was thinking about that because there's also like book fandom, like book series, like people who really like love a certain like a guitar. I see a lot on my TikTok and I feel like I'm missing something because I'm not like a reader, I guess. But reality TV is another one where it's not like I'm being like, oh, I i wouldn't watch that because I'm too good for it.
00:33:57
Speaker
It's like i i can't get into it. Like I want to be a part of it because it it looks like a fun community to be to be a part of. But I'm just now realizing too that I literally only have like one friend, Kelsey, who is a part of any type of reality TV like that knows what's going on. Like she's obsessed with Housewives.
00:34:16
Speaker
Yeah. And I just don't – I've never gotten into of that. Housewives stresses me out because they do too much of the drama. I'm like I want more of the nuance like them shopping – i I actually don't really like to see people like screaming and yelling at each other. Like I'm trying to calm my nervous system whenever I'm watching.
00:34:34
Speaker
I'm honestly bored though. It just feels like we're really produced. It's just boring. Yeah. Yeah. It's like if it's going to be like kind of scripted, I'd rather just watch something that's consistently good that's been like written to be good.
00:34:47
Speaker
Otherwise. Yeah. and I also found myself like – being way more or less inclined to watch a reality show the more when we were like at events a lot with them because I was like, I don't care to know this much about people that I am surrounded by because I i wouldn't know how to act.
00:35:11
Speaker
You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, i it's like influencers though. I know so much about so many influencers that I follow and I'd see them at events. Yeah, but it's like... and honestly know more, probably. I'm talking about like bachelor people. what you mean. and I get what you mean, yeah. It's just like, I don't know.
00:35:32
Speaker
Sometimes I'm like, I would rather be in the dark and just like have an authentic connection and not even risk like knowing more than I want
Names, Identity, and Work Conferences
00:35:40
Speaker
to know. Yeah, I get what you mean. Okay, I have two more topics.
00:35:45
Speaker
Okay. One of them is kind of shorter and it's more niche. and I don't want to address this. So I want to get into like the girls who go by their middle names and what that's actually like.
00:36:01
Speaker
So I feel like this isn't a community that's really talked about very often because I'm a girl that goes by their middle name, Iman. And I'm going do some touch points of what happened.
00:36:12
Speaker
Earlier on your childhood, it's like when you're going to school and maybe there's a substitute teacher that doesn't know to call you by your middle name. They say your first name and all your friends are like, oh my God, that's your first name. I'm going to call you by that. And then they use your first name as like a derogatory term almost where it's like, it doesn't like offensive, but it's also not funny. Like I just don't care.
00:36:34
Speaker
like it's just like, I don't. Okay. But that's not step one. Step one is why did your mom name you something that she didn't want to call you? Right. So my mom never called me my first name a day in my life.
00:36:48
Speaker
She's never, I'm not one of the girls who like didn't like their first name. So went by the middle name. didn't know.
00:36:55
Speaker
Shut up. I didn't know what my first name was until I was like eight. And I was like, what? Like I was like shocked with everyone else because I had to sign up for school. was like, my first name is what? So like when I signed up for college, think when I was like 16, like college application, I spelled my first name wrong actually, because I just didn't, I just wasn't associating with it.
00:37:18
Speaker
So then What I also get is telling people what my first name is and being like, that's so beautiful. Like, why don't you go? but Why don't you like it Why don't you go by that? And it's like, it's not that I don't like it. It's just like an unfamiliar name to me.
00:37:33
Speaker
Like there's all these like controversies that are happening. For example, like, Darren got flights to fill and he spelled my first name wrong, like very severely wrong. And I was like, I don't know if they're going to let me on this flight because you spelled my name wrong by like three letters.
00:37:46
Speaker
And he was like, oh, Yeah, they let me on. i thought that you it literally had to be exact. No, it was wrong. It was by two letters, not three, but it was just like very wrong.
00:37:58
Speaker
How do you spell My first name is Najwa, N-A-J-W-A-H.
00:38:05
Speaker
So I don't know. I feel like there's a lot of things that go along with like when people want to be serious with me and they're like, say my first name to be Corky or like some of my friends from high school will have my first name as like my contact.
00:38:17
Speaker
And it's just like all of these added things that you like have to deal with that people aren't really knowing that you're going through on a daily basis. So I just wanted to bring light that community. It's like logistical, logistical error.
00:38:30
Speaker
Yeah, I see. I just like I'm not connected to my name at all. I feel like Kristen, you are because you have a good last name. Yeah, I like my last name because I don't really love my first name. I don't really associate with it. Seems like a little basic, but then like Kristen Richie feels better to me.
00:38:46
Speaker
And I like the last name Richie because, you know, everyone thinks. Because, you know, what's your next point, Iman? When he is snoring next to me, by the way, like really loud, I cannot stop burping.
00:39:04
Speaker
I was at a a work conference for the past two days.
00:39:17
Speaker
um It was my very first work conference. It felt very official. It felt very adult. um The conference is like
00:39:29
Speaker
Stop moving so much. I'm sorry. You sound like you're on like a plastic couch. I know. um
00:39:37
Speaker
The conference like a ton of money to go to, which obviously my company paid for. And you go to these different panels. I was shocked at how much alcohol there was to drink. Like it was open bar, like at all times, basically.
00:39:53
Speaker
But something I really wanted to point out from this panel, I thought I was going to be like so enlightened by all these people that were like so smart. I don't know why I thought that. But I just think like when you haven't been to before, you just like put it on pedestal, whatever.
00:40:05
Speaker
So I felt like going into it, I was going to be like, oh my God, these people are going to be so smart. going to listen to these things. I probably won't even know which words they're using. I sit the audience of this panel. I will say specifically men who I listened to talk spoke about things that were very like simple and obvious to me in a way as if it they were like giving the biggest gem they could ever give to someone.
00:40:32
Speaker
And I think it's because like the one I'm specifically talking about was about like um these two guys were up on stage talking about how a certain aspect of like marketing and strategy is like emotionally connecting with your audience.
00:40:49
Speaker
And that was like the gist of what they were saying. And it was like men were discovering Emotion? Marketing. Like, not lying. Yeah, like, men were discovering not lying and actually connecting to people just, like, as a whole. And I thought... I feel like like marketing teams... I feel like marketing teams are, like, women for a reason.
00:41:11
Speaker
You know? Yeah, they should be. They should be, at least. Yeah. I mean, I can't... Iman, that is my worst nightmare. To see a man on a stage saying something so fucking normal that I could have Googled.
00:41:23
Speaker
can... No, it was so normal. And all the women that were there who were speaking felt so overqualified to be speaking at this thing that I was like, oh my God, like, how did they get you here? like girl Like girls that have made so many millions of dollars and are actual geniuses. And then the guys got on stage and they were like, yeah, so like, I don't know, like our original website was super sterile. So here's what we did.
00:41:51
Speaker
We surveyed the audience. And it was just like, oh, my God. It was just so interesting. I remember whenever I lived with or like kind of lived with my ex and he in Venice and he had a bunch of like um finance bro friends when they would talk on the phone, you guys.
00:42:12
Speaker
They were talking circles about nothing. They were playing pretend. No, that's what it is It's like they're talking to hear themselves talk. They're both talking to each other to make themselves feel better and feel smart.
00:42:28
Speaker
Both things have been said differently. 600 times in different ways, but in nothing else has been added. It was like so embarrassing. And also, like he was like wealthy and like good at his job. And I was like, oh, my God. I don't think it takes much for them to be good at their job, though. like I feel like this specific type of man that I'm imagining is just so...
00:42:53
Speaker
well and it was the cop Yeah, the confidence. They're scammers. They're all scammers and they all like to hear themselves talk. Fancy us saying that. We have a podcast where we also like to hear ourselves talk.
00:43:07
Speaker
But but i'm not establishing I'm not establishing myself as a Even a professional at a lot of things. Like, I'm not going to like, I don't know. I just, I genuinely think they're really impressed by themselves overall, men this
Gender Dynamics and Workplace Challenges
00:43:22
Speaker
like this. And I don't understand how we got here.
00:43:25
Speaker
And they've been like literally getting away with just skirting through life. So they actually haven't had to put much effort in there. They don't have much motivation behind it either. Whereas we're constantly trying to prove our place and our worth and because we're so highly criticized and they are not.
00:43:43
Speaker
So they're like, why the fuck would I put any time into this presentation? These guys already think I'm rich. Yeah. Well, think they think what they're doing is is putting in time. Like, I do think they think they're working hard. Like, I actually think that.
00:43:57
Speaker
I don't. I had, like, it in a similar vein, a conversation with Joe recently because, like, men are so scared of women... in general, in a lot of ways, I feel like they're very scared, for example, to be vulnerable with women.
00:44:11
Speaker
And I was asking Joe, like, what's so scary about that? And I think at the base, like the root of it is like, they're afraid to look dumb or they're afraid to be like made fun of. And there's a whole thing about how women's biggest fear is like being made fun of and being ridiculed.
00:44:24
Speaker
And women's biggest fear is like being raped and killed. So like, we're not really on the same level here. Cause like someone could ridicule me and I don't give a flying fuck. You know what saying? But men are so underdeveloped that like that is genuinely terrifying to them. Like they are genuinely terrified to be vulnerable because they think they're going to look stupid. And that's like the worst case scenario that could ever happen to them and their brain.
00:44:46
Speaker
I'm like, you are so like women don't give a shit about that. We will look stupid in front of whoever we need to look stupid in front of for the most part. Like we just don't. live that way you be better about that and was like diving straight into love. And now I'm, and I'm like a man and that like now everything having to do with that is like embarrassing.
00:45:06
Speaker
Well, I think i mean like something that I will say about it and my own personal experience, because of everything we just mentioned, every time I've had a boss who was a man,
00:45:22
Speaker
I made more money and enjoyed my job more. And I'll tell you why. They don't expect, in my experience, as much out of me. They're easily impressed.
00:45:33
Speaker
And like the ways to like do a good job when I'm doing like an average job, I'm getting bonuses, I'm working my way up, I'm schmoozing a little bit. Like I could like talk my way into a job or a room.
00:45:45
Speaker
I'll say when I have female female bosses, they're generally harder to impress because they're like, well, yeah, this is like what you should be doing. That's like the bottom line of what you should be doing. But also there's not the layer of they're not attracted to you typically either. So like I think there is somebody to be said for being an attractive woman who's smart climbing a ladder.
00:46:04
Speaker
I think men, i was just talking to someone about this last night because she works in like, um, like entertainment space, like hosting and things like that. were talking about women working in sports, um, and how like so many women get absolutely fucked when they like get married or something like that. If they're like an on-camera host, for example, they get now there are no, like no one is allowed to take advantage of them anymore. And like sexually, or they're not going to sleep with someone obviously in the office. So they literally get like fired or like moved to a place that like no one wants to get moved to or something.
00:46:34
Speaker
But like before they were like the hot commodity and like climbing really fast. And then all of a sudden, once they deny everyone and they're off the market, then they can't like their job plummets. I'm like that.
00:46:45
Speaker
It's obvious. Like it's we know this was happening, but it's just crazy to watch it happen truly in real time and be like, if everyone knows what's going on, why are we how is this still happening? Right.
00:46:56
Speaker
Yeah. They're also so transparent. I just, no, I miss her. What's she doing? What is she doing? But I just like, I'm so sick of, that's literally the reason why the the whole world is the way that it is. It's because every man is mediocre and he, they've made the world so mediocre.
00:47:14
Speaker
I'm like, come on. When are we going to stop this nonsense? Yeah. But I will say like, Also, with what I just said, I've always respected my female bosses so much and like genuinely thought they were smarter than me. And I've never thought one of my male bosses smarter than Because that was almost sounding like I was like advocating for men in my last statement. So I had to bring it around.
00:47:36
Speaker
have a female boss right now and I respect her so much and think that she's so smart. And I've never felt that way about a guy that I worked under, I always thought I'm so much smarter than him. Like, this is annoying. who Yeah.
00:47:48
Speaker
Well, it's just, your life was easier because you weren't being like challenged. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. So I didn't want you to grow. I don't know if you girls who ah have, have had that same experience.
00:48:01
Speaker
Well, it's almost like in general having male friends. Like when I hang out with my guy friends, they're not sitting around like asking me, i mean, that much about my life. And also they're not like going to be the type to like confront me and be like, you're doing this or like this is happening in our friendship and I want it to be this way.
00:48:17
Speaker
So like, or you're hurting me. Like there's never a challenge. Like men aren't necessarily... Like they're not, it's not like the iron sharpens iron, which I think they all kind of like that, that thing where they're all like, they get together and they're like, yeah, these are my bros. Like iron sharpens iron. and I hang out. I'm like, y'all are not sharpening shit.
00:48:34
Speaker
Okay. Y'all are not, you're just challenging each other to like fake work more on your phone calls. Yeah. You're just enabling. I think it's also very similar in like dating, for example. Like anytime gone on a date with a man, it's felt very easy to like get them to like me or like you could just dress hot.
00:48:53
Speaker
And I've been on one date with a girl and I was freaking out beforehand because I was like, wait, I can't just like look hot. Like I actually have to be like funny into my personality.
Unexpected Career Shifts and Episode Recap
00:49:02
Speaker
It's evil playing fields. It's like the woman sees you – like for you and your capabilities and like the man is like i don't know creating some some weird additional distance to the already distance yeah it's like he's taking me to an ah a nice restaurant like i'll wear low-cut top and like we'll just have a great time it's like it's just everything's very different yeah yeah speaking of that yeah
00:49:31
Speaker
That ex that was living with all the finance bros. He's the one that whenever I was scrolling randomly recently, I saw a sponsored video from him.
00:49:42
Speaker
So now he guys he's like a UGC content creator now? Yeah, he it's either UGC or the company he's working for. I'm just like, you're the biggest Well, here's the thing. I think UGC is an amazing way to make money, but like that's kind of for the girls. And now like this guy's like a finance bro. would be hilarious. It was just a lot. And it's it was a lot in my face. It doesn't even have to be anything like.
00:50:09
Speaker
I can't talk bur burpee. Burpee McGee over here. I've had like 30 burps every time I take one sip. It was it was a jump scare. You don't expect your ex straight.
00:50:22
Speaker
allegedly boyfriend to be doing sponsored content. And the funniest thing was that like, I had just gotten a reel. I was, it was like, I was scrolling on reels.
00:50:36
Speaker
I had just gotten a reel that was like, do um like checking to see if my ex is still cringe. And it was like people acting like they got accepted school and they were like, like clapping at that. And I was like, LOL. And then I like had this brief thought of him and then scrolled two more videos and then he came up and I was just like, that was fucking weird in my mind timing.
00:51:01
Speaker
um But yeah, fucking jump scare. So yeah, he's an idiot. Well, um my camera and stuff is about to die. So can we wrap it up?
00:51:14
Speaker
Well, we need to wrap it up anyway. So yeah, that was um us shooting the shit, catching up kind of. And we're glad to be back.
00:51:26
Speaker
In summary, you'll need to be this week sending your friends really earnestly kind text messages. um Don't let anyone in a Starbucks touch you ever.
00:51:38
Speaker
If someone's trying to read your phone, I don't know what they're actually doing. They're trying to steal something from you with distraction. um Don't unfollow people who die.
00:51:51
Speaker
please. And if you do, what's the time period? And if you do, like, it's okay. And then what else did we glean from this conversation? yeah
00:52:05
Speaker
What else? I said, what else did we glean from this conversation? Don't listen to men ever really. Yeah. And also what's your experience with like male but bosses versus female bosses? I'm curious.
00:52:19
Speaker
And also, if you're a girl that goes by her middle name, what have you gone through that you want to come forward and talk about? Because this is the safe space. That's actually our new audience, just girls that go by their middle names.
00:52:32
Speaker
yeah what if i What if my name was Elizabeth? What if I went by Elizabeth? That's my middle name. We call you Lizzie. who go by their first names think that people who go by their middle names, they want to talk about this kind stuff.
00:52:46
Speaker
yeah Hey, Lizzie. We're digging deep. Yeah. Okay. We're breaking stereotypes. Yeah. We're just a bunch of big swinging dicks talking on a mic just like the world wants.
00:53:02
Speaker
Okay. We'll talk to y'all next week. Okay. Bye. Yeah. Anyway. Bye.