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Episode #15
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Torben, Bob, and Jim say goodbye to 2025 and try to pick a kit of the year.
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Podcast Introduction
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Torben Rothgeb
Welcome to the Tiny Car Podcast. This is your host, Torben Roskab, and my co-host, Bob Magret, coming to you live from the Lake Street Studios in beautiful Minneapolis, the coolest city in the world.
00:00:18
Torben Rothgeb
All right. Hello, everyone. We hope you are having a wonderful holiday season. Hopefully you're on the nice list. So you'll be getting lots of model cars.
00:00:31
Torben Rothgeb
And sorry about that. It's technical difference. That's our new, our our colleague guest, regular Jim Campman. That's his own intro.
00:00:43
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, gee, thanks. Can I get a little more thunder to that next time? yeah Next time we'll come up with some thunder here. Right, right. yeah Anyhow, let me just turn the music off altogether. But are you guys doing? We're doing great. Great.
00:00:58
Torben Rothgeb
Right into the season, right? Yeah. Ready to go. Yes, very festive here.
Holiday Gift Exchange
00:01:02
Torben Rothgeb
Very festive. um Well, we just got done with our what we call white elephant season. A couple of our clubs, you know, you you do, you get a gift the previous year. And then if you get it done, then you get to pick in your white elephant ah gift exchange. um And so how did you guys make out this year?
00:01:25
Torben Rothgeb
Did you finish your white elephants from last year? First off, I did finish my RPM white elephants and I got, i got a nice kit to build for. Next year. Awesome. Awesome. Ditto. Same thing. Yes. I saw you had the Petty Talladega. Yeah. Which was really fun ah because you had – you did design those kits, and it took you 25 years to build one.
00:01:52
Torben Rothgeb
Is that all? Well, they came out in 2000. Yeah. And unfortunately, you know like I told you before, they had – Slick's decals because at the time i was working with them and I gave them the opportunity to to put together a deal for Polar Lights. And so they went with it in a course.
00:02:14
Torben Rothgeb
moving forward to 2025. They don't have quite the adhesive that they once did. The lasting, the shelf life on so to their credit. They were good when new. Oh yeah. They were, they're totally fine. Um, yeah, but you know, like, like any, like any petty car, you know, you start doing the research and, um,
00:02:37
Torben Rothgeb
Mike's Decals does a um a power slide sheet for that car. And it's really, really good. I mean, they give you a lot extra sponsors and things like that.
Decals and 3D Printing in Model Cars
00:02:49
Torben Rothgeb
Thankfully, um my colleague here at at the radio station, he he helped me out with some extra decals. Because he had done the 68 car, which helped from you, of course. Mm-hmm.
00:03:04
Torben Rothgeb
And so anyway, so he bailed me out on that, but I'm going probably end up getting a set of those because I think they have a marked down to like 10 bucks on their website right now. On ah mike Mike's decals, yeah. And it's it's loaded with, um i really I really like what what I like about Mike's decals is he goes into the,
00:03:24
Torben Rothgeb
He really does the research and eat the sponsors and stuff that he did. There's some Dayglo sponsors that were on the car, which I never knew existed. And it just adds a lot more interest to the model. So I really and you know i enjoyed that. But you know um I used a 3D seat in the kit from Jay's oh good deal um that I got from Bob. And it looks fantastic. I just...
00:03:52
Torben Rothgeb
it's so easy to put in the car and you don't have to worry about the the buckles because they're, you know, part of the 3d part and I'm going to get some more them, but they're like five bucks a piece, which is, that's reasonable enough. Yeah.
00:04:05
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. So anyway, so, you know, I had a good time doing it. Um, uh, I'm actually going to start working. i actually started working on another one. So, you know, it's like, nice well, now that I know all of the, ins and outss in the car yeah I really want to get that, uh, Donnie Allison.
00:04:22
Torben Rothgeb
telladay you done so good That was one you don't see. No, you don't. And it was very successful. And he one he won, I think it was Charlotte. and ah And another race. So really out of the like the yeah era of wars, yeah you know, to get two wins.
Racing Stories and Paint Schemes
00:04:40
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, Pete Hamilton was the only other one I can think of that won multiple super speed races. Yeah, and and on this one I'm going to do the back window the way that it's supposed to be. yeah So I've already got that fixed. It really isn't that difficult to to do. Is this one's got a flat black hood or is it it all red? You could do either one. You could do either one. Oh, okay. It looks nice. It actually had – there's one picture of it. The only I can figure out is that they borrowed some of Petty's wheels because it's got that blue –
00:05:09
Torben Rothgeb
The darkish blue dark inner wheels. yeah It actually looks kind of cool with the orange paint. Corporation blue or something, I guess. Close to Ford engine blue kind of. Did you guys do a Pearson car?
00:05:21
Torben Rothgeb
I did. Mine was horrible. Polar lights, yes. Yeah, because that's the one I built. yeah yeah yeah right that was Yeah, that's another one I i want build because there's so many different variations of the kit that you can do. and that I got that sheet from Mike Seacal. There's every variation of his sponsorship on that. It's just great.
00:05:39
Torben Rothgeb
The one thing I was hoping for, and of course, i'm you know you can't have everything, but ah the I was hoping they would have the variation for the 67 Ford that he ran. um and Pearson Pro? Yes. It was a oh Ruby Red 67 Ford, but they didn't I saw all those 17s. I was hoping they would have that on there because that's a kind of underrated car.
00:06:07
Torben Rothgeb
ah They actually, oddly enough, they did it a one 30 second slot car. um But. So it was a Fairlane? Yeah. Ford Fairlane. 66 Fairlane. So he wasn't running the Dodge then? That was post the post. That was after his championship. You know interestingly enough, um you know, he's got ah ah some stories and I, it doesn't surprise me just with the interviews. Not that I was ever a personal friend of ah David Pearson, but. He seemed like one of those guys that wasn't necessarily the biggest communicator.
00:06:36
Torben Rothgeb
And ah so he talked about ah him and the guys were working on the car and they decided to get something to eat. And Cotton Owens had told them to load the car up or something like this. And so they had gone out to eat and then they came back.
00:06:52
Torben Rothgeb
And i you know Cotton Owens was kind of ah upset that they hadn't loaded the car up or something. Miscommunication thing. And then they kind of got in an argument and then he went his own separate ways as far as racing for Cotton Owems. And then it's kind of a similar thing with, um you know, ending with the Wood Brothers where he, you know, he had that pit stop where he didn't have the tires tightened on and all the tires fell off on pit road. And then, you know, he kind of went his own way after that. so Interesting. but Yeah.
00:07:22
Torben Rothgeb
you know A lot of times what makes these guys great also kind of makes them maybe hard-headed and stubborn, or you know and you get all of these personalities. Sometimes they they butt heads.
00:07:33
Torben Rothgeb
But no, that was it so... Yeah, he left Cotton Owens right after winning the championship. ands well And in the 67 season. Everybody in the 67 season, if they wanted to win races, that was the car to beat. Yeah. you know If you look at Fred Lorenzen and then Mario and all that stuff, um that was the setup. yeah you know It had that mystery exhaust you know exhaust on it.
00:07:58
Torben Rothgeb
It did, and now, obviously, somehow, you know, Petty had had something set up to where he won 27 races that year. But even, ah you know, then the next year, they really kind of bottomed that. Oh, yeah, you're right. 66 you're talking about. 67 for Petty. And then then the 68 Roadrunner, where he was trying all those different things with the vinyl top and the whatever stuff, and they ended up, the Petty ended up going to Ford in 69 as well because...
00:08:26
Torben Rothgeb
Well, your white elephant was the the car hauler in which did a really beautiful job. Yes. so bru Thank you. The Bruce Larson. ah Yeah. um I've always loved that paint scheme.
00:08:36
Torben Rothgeb
um As a ah ah kid growing up in the late 70s, I had the Evel Knievel kind of stuff and the number one with the red, white and blue stuff. And so the Bruce Larson paint scheme always stuck out to me. And yeah.
00:08:51
Torben Rothgeb
years ago I started on that Camaro um when model Model King reissued it and then um it's coming out again in 2026. Yes I know it is really funny that for the third time. Whose decals are those?
00:09:09
Torben Rothgeb
ah Well, i you know I had my fingers crossed on them because they were the Camaros are so all Slicks decals. oh um and ah And even on the other one, it was Slicks.
00:09:22
Torben Rothgeb
But then ah somewhere along the line, I believe ah Fred Cady did a sheet for a 66 Chevelle. So I had that sheet, and then I had ah extra stripes and stars from a Corvette.
00:09:35
Torben Rothgeb
um one So just all kinds of different things. I got the thumbs up from Jim Alden, by way. He said that was his favorite model on the table. Oh, awesome. Thank you, Jim. Good to have him back in the club. right So, yeah, I was able to make this one, so I got a good number. And it was funny. There was nothing that really was calling to me. Even for the people that built their cars, I had 33.
Current Model Projects
00:10:00
Torben Rothgeb
So I think I picked maybe one of the last ones to pick.
00:10:04
Torben Rothgeb
And I'm sitting there, I'm looking at the room, and I had an odd liking to the Mustang, too. I know it's kind of obscure, but i like those obscure 70s miles. i I wasn't as privileged as you guys were to grow up in the muscle car era. So my first cars that I remember were like the Charlie's Angels Mustang and Vega, which you like to give me. crap about liking Vegas and stuff like that. But, um, so I was thinking about that one because, and, uh, thanks to the generosity of Sam from splash paint, he had donated, four bottles of paint to three different, uh, white, white elephant models. So that came with the four bottles of splash paint. oh
00:10:44
Torben Rothgeb
Uh, so I was thinking about that one, but I didn't. And I was thinking about a couple other things, but, um, thinking about, This Lotus 38 that we have coming from Salvino's, hopefully, which always makes me laugh because I went back i was listening to our first shows and we're talking about it. And here we are, episode number 15, and we're still still talking about But it it is ah getting closer. getting So I thought I would take a ah shot and I got the Lotus 49. already started. I got the green on it. The Tamiya green went on really good. um
00:11:21
Torben Rothgeb
Let it dry for another couple of days before I put the decals on and then clear it. Now, when you paint something like what you're just talking about. Yeah. Do you put that in a box or something to cure or to keep the dust out of it and all that? So where do you keep that box?
00:11:38
Torben Rothgeb
Is it a secret compartment in the house? You guys talk amongst yourself. and um Talk amongst yourself. bring it out what What did you get for your whale, from Jim? I got a 34 Roadster. though Oh, that's right. There were like three or four of those that okay were in the in the you in the white elephant. And ten I built a couple of them already, so it's easy. sque well it's It's a shake and bake thing. okay So I actually have both my white elephants here.
00:12:11
Torben Rothgeb
um What's that for? This is the for the MSM one. yeah Yes, that's the MSM. Oh, that's great. Yeah. um So and you can kind of smell the, so that's the Tamiya.
00:12:22
Torben Rothgeb
Over um gray, I think. yeah had You hardly even need to clear it in some ways. Yeah, on some of the pieces that it was nice enough. um So did you use the thinner then for the to sand the paint?
00:12:38
Torben Rothgeb
Yes, I did. I decanted the Tamaya green and then put some. I just kind eyeball it and then mix it up. Two to one or something?
00:12:51
Torben Rothgeb
No, not that much. I just put a couple different drops. You know, because for years I spray, I decanted Tamiya and painted it and it went on good. So I don't feel like I need to do too much of it. Sure. um You know.
00:13:04
Torben Rothgeb
just Just a couple drops will help it to dry quicker yeah some ways. That's about it. Now, ah this, I put the decals, all the Rocket Red is decal, which is a tedious job to do.
00:13:17
Torben Rothgeb
um and ah But it goes on pretty flat. And I was kind of lukewarm on it about how well it was going. So I didn't really want to waste any 2K clear on it. So I used the UV cut.
00:13:31
Torben Rothgeb
ah Beware, ah if you're clearing over decals, you got to go pretty light on it. um Because it, you know, where's George Costanza when we need it? Because it does do some shrinkage on this. And you can see where it got too hot.
00:13:51
Torben Rothgeb
um you could see that it kind of pulls it back up you know um so that's saw out of the can though right uh yes out of the can and that's where you had the problems was because you used it when i put two light coats on and i waited a fair amount of time about five ten minutes i was watching a basketball game that's not that's not very long though um And, you know, order but like I said, I'd gotten to the point, you know, because I think out of the decal jobs that you would do for petty like the Kyle Petty one, which is reverse scheme. This is an 82 Grand Prix. I know great radio, but um where on the Petty version, because they did reverse schemes on the Rocket Red and Petty Blue, it goes over the roof of the car and the side of the car. And that's a little harder for the decals.
00:14:40
Torben Rothgeb
So, i you know, I already wasn't kind of liking it. And what I'm probably going to do is I'm probably going to put some um MCW Rocket Red and just kind of fog over some of the spots here. You know, I'll probably put like a sheet ah of card paper and just kind of hit where I need it here. And then probably on the inside of the windows and stuff like that. You know, um it's, ah you know, what do they call it? A two footer.
00:15:11
Torben Rothgeb
It's a two-footer. But I am excited about this Lotus 49 because it's going to be really cool. The tires are beautiful in that kit. Yes. The tires are already tamponed, and they're they're gorgeous. They've got gold rings, and it's a gorgeous kit. I'm surprised Muggsy didn't like those more if they had them done for him, you know, kind of a Harold Bradford thing. Yeah.
00:15:34
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. I'm not bitter, though. It's only been, what, 10 years? Yeah, right. Well, and oddly enough, I guess at Detroit, I got the Lotus 49 112 scale. Right. So um hopefully by the time... Speaking of shrinking. Yes.
00:15:49
Torben Rothgeb
By the time the Salvino kit finally does get here, I will be well-versed in Lotus Formula 1 cars. You will. That's great. I guess did they they won the Dutch Grand Prix, I think, and then... um Won a lot of poles in the Lotus 49. And he won a lot of races in that car, too. A lot of races. And then, unfortunately, also, um Jimmy Clark lost his life in that. Not in that car. Not in that car, though. Or close. He was in a Formula 2 race, but it was a similar car.
00:16:16
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, yeah, yeah. so And you can do a couple of different schemes with it, but, you know, IndyCals makes decals to do. Yolkin Rint. Well, that's a little later on, yeah. Yolkin Rint. Graham Hill drove it. and yeah no It's got some good great drivers in it. well and I love the the green and yellow. But then also, what what is it? The red, was it cigarette sponsor? the Gold leaf. Red, gold, and white. It's a great paint scheme. So far, it looks like it's going to go together pretty well. you know The nice thing about painting those is there's all the body is in different parts. So for
00:16:55
Torben Rothgeb
ah Clearing and polishing and stuff, it's really nice um that you can you know lay it out and and and not worry. just have a lot better angles and stuff. you still You still have to worry about the stripe, though.
00:17:10
Torben Rothgeb
The stripe, yes. Going into the nose. That hard, and it goes around the nose. That's the... hardest part of all. Bob Furrier did one. He did a really good job. He said it jiggles right into the nose. You put little saw in it. You just walk away. And that is who? Ebersole is the kit manufacturer? Who makes a kit? Ebro. Ebro. Now, have you worked with their decals before?
00:17:34
Torben Rothgeb
i had I did the Joe Sifford car and that was Indy Cal decals. Oh, you did Indy Cal. You didn't do the kit decals. And I did a tour with the Ebro decals and they were fine. They're fine. Because it is ah it is really a hard one. I want to try to use the decals. The hard thing is it goes right in that nose and you tell that's one time got to get it to go in that lip. Both Classic and Ferrara built them and they said it went fine. Yes. Okay. And they used decal, right? Good to know. Good to know.
00:18:04
Torben Rothgeb
um Well, and you know, that's another one of those advantages to the 2K. um And if you don't have to go back over it, then it's fine ah that it it's ah not a hot paint at all. So I think that's why it works so well over decals because it's not like the um Mr. Hobby UV clear where you, if you do put it over decals, I would recommend that. um, going very light, even decanting and putting it through. even' my clear at the can Oh, to Maya, super. I don't, uh, the only thing I use to my, it's going over. Yep.
00:18:43
Torben Rothgeb
Yep. Yeah, know definitely. Definitely. All right. So that's my white elephant. I got one done. I didn't get the other one done, but I do look forward to building that one as well. I had that one out last night. I had the Corvette grand sport and, uh,
00:18:58
Torben Rothgeb
It'll really look cool when I get it done. I love the way the Nassau blue looks. And the only thing is I realized why I didn't get it. I'm a little scared painting around the windows. And it's one of those I'll debate. One time I'll say, like, I'll try the AK brush around there. And then the other time, you know, even even if I mess something up, when I mask it off and airbrush it, it still is a sharper line. So um the only thing I have to do...
00:19:27
Torben Rothgeb
I have to find a way ah ah around the stripe because the stripe runs from the back of the windshield to the the front of the rear window. And so if you're going to mask off and paint the black around the windows, I have to find a way to not put the tape right over that stripe. Right. You know, and I might just have like a note card, maybe, maybe hold the note card tape right up to the stripe and then, then do that. Or I might just, do the AK pin just where the stripe is. That sounds like a plan. Yeah.
00:20:02
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. Cause I did, I can't remember what I was doing. I ah did that by accident. Luckily I had another set of decals, but I, I was using the um Saran wrap. I don't know if you guys ever use Saran wrap when you're masking off a car.
00:20:16
Torben Rothgeb
um And I wasn't painting close to it, but I thought, well, just in case, Oh, ah it was, ah it was this ah Javelin ah just in case. Cause I think I was painting the blue.
00:20:26
Torben Rothgeb
But I wanted to cover up. I had the white taped off. It's a blue, white, red car for you that don't know, a Mark Donahue one. And I had painted the red on the back of the car and the white in the middle of the car. um But then I was painting the blue. And so I masked over the white with Tamiya tape.
00:20:46
Torben Rothgeb
But then... I thought, well, just in case I'll put some Saran wrap over the red part of the car, you know, or, you know, whatever the tape didn't cover. Um, but, uh, I wasn't paying attention and the Saran wrap went over part of some of the, couple of the decals. And so then when I went to pull it off, it just pulled off. So, um, but, uh, so yeah, if you if you are masking a car with Saran wrap on, make sure it doesn't, you haven't put the decals on already. And, uh, Even though I cleared over the decals. So I had a false sense of security thinking that I cleared over the decals so they should be okay. But that saran wrap really ah pulls.
00:21:25
Torben Rothgeb
you can pull a But anyway, ah that is my white
Future Model Builds
00:21:30
Torben Rothgeb
elephant. And so anything else you guys want to talk about? What do you get for this coming year for your white elephant?
00:21:37
Torben Rothgeb
Well, I got the Model the 30 the thirty waley Roadster. Okay. Do you have any plans for what how you want to build it? Well, actually, I do because it's the white elephant.
00:21:48
Torben Rothgeb
So I'm going to put put ah an elephant in the… A big Hemi? Well, um and I'm going to put a small 331 Hemi in the Model A. It's out of the 53 Ford pickup. I already have it.
00:22:02
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. The engine glued together and stuff like that. So it'll it'll fit. Okay. So I just haven't decided about if I'm going paint it white or not because it's white is not a great color for hot rod. Mm-mm.
00:22:14
Torben Rothgeb
so but we'll see maybe just paint the engine white yeah that's kind of what was thinking yeah right so anyway so that's that's what i'm thinking so anyway but yeah i was happy with that um yeah the the number 71 charger i got for the msm like like you said the the plastic isn't really so you need poppy red yeah So i already ordered some from MCWs that's supposed to be here like at the end of the week.
00:22:43
Torben Rothgeb
Well, that'll be nice if you're also doing the Donnie Allison 27 Talladega. You can paint them both at the same time. And, you know, i don't I don't know how many races he won with that car, though.
00:22:54
Torben Rothgeb
I believe he won at least two. Oh, Bobby. Oh, ah yeah, I think he won maybe the Spring Darlington race, I want to say. Because it is a 72, right? Or is it 71? I can't remember now.
00:23:06
Torben Rothgeb
both 70. Yeah, I think he ran it in 71. And then I think maybe even by the end of 71, he had moved on or he moved on definitely in 72 because he drove the 15 car ah for Bud Moore. He drove that 72 Torino by then. And then at some point, I think he he was one of those that heard voices that told him to get out of the car in Talladega.
00:23:34
Torben Rothgeb
And Robert Duvall echoed that line in Days of Thunder, I think. Donnie Helson? No. Oh, ah Bobby Isaac. I'm sorry. We're jumping from Bobby Isaac driving the K&K. And both the cars were poppy red between the right um between the 71 Dodge Charger and the 69 Dodge are at Ford Telenor. I've never painted that enamel.
00:24:02
Torben Rothgeb
MCW before. Well, they didn't have lacquer? ah They did, but I want to try want to try the enam enamel because they're they're pushing that, and they actually said you can use like 2K clear-o-written stuff like that. Well, that's the great thing about 2K. It's not hot at all.
00:24:17
Torben Rothgeb
But I'm going to try using it just... Go for it, man. Yeah. I don't know about the 2K, but I'll definitely, you know. The thing with enamel that's really turned it around for me, because I didn't like to, the viscosity and heaviness of enamel was just, I didn't like airbrushing it, clogged up my airbrush and stuff. But with the...
00:24:37
Torben Rothgeb
Self-leveling thinner. The Mr. Hobby self-leveling thinner. And that's what they recommend to use on the paint, too. It's a changer. It's opened things with me because the um the true match in the bottles was is right is enamel. yeah And so, um you know, I painted the Quaker State green with that. I just got done painting some um Kodak yellow on the for the wing of the Buddy Baker Daytona. Okay. The stripe in the wing.
00:25:07
Torben Rothgeb
um You talk about a weird car that changes. Different pictures. It's like a Daytona yellow. Other ones, it's a real like Kodak yellow. i got I got several pictures where it looks like a Kodak yellow. So I painted the wing on this Dodge Daytona with the Kodak yellow. Whose car is this? Buddy Baker, right? Buddy Baker. Yeah, he won the Southern 570 in Daytona. Is that the number six or whatever? Yep. Number six. Oh, that was blue.
00:25:36
Torben Rothgeb
Well, it's red, and I'm going to use another true match color. I'm go to use that Budweiser red because it's a nice, deep, dark red. um And then it's got a black, not a vinyl top, but they painted it semi-gloss black. Interesting. And then ah with the yellow stripe, and then the numbers are like this neon-ish color. That'd be a really good-looking car, though, once you get it done. And it's pretty unique. yeah so Interesting. I got a German touring car. I got a...
00:26:05
Torben Rothgeb
ah Gary, Gary fat Mercedes. And I took it, I looked in in the box. It's a very nice. Did you steal that from someone too? I did. And I'm ashamed of me. And who did you steal from? I think I stole it from Cameron. So, I mean, it was like, you know, littlell never and the ironic thing is that the, I have an Audi in that same series, 2011,
00:26:29
Torben Rothgeb
They ran in Germany. Kodak Yellow, too? it's one of them codeak yellow One of them is This one is Silver with an Orange Nose. And they give you a template in the instructions and to to paint the yellow the orange. So don't use Saran Wrap.
00:26:43
Torben Rothgeb
Don't use Saran Wrap. That'll pull stuff right off. Both those cards were bought with Cameron at the dungeon. They just bought a collection. And Cameron and I went in there and we're like, ooh. How long ago is this? I was about a year ago. I was going to say, I wasn't there for that. We weren't there. bought like three kits, you know. Only three? And I bought just the one Audi. And now, of course, I get the Mercedes that he bought. I get it back. So I might do a Finchian move and build them together. A double build? A double build. Like Dana. Right. Like double build. and get that one. He's probably listening. I hope so. I hope so.
00:27:22
Torben Rothgeb
But we'll see. And again, talk to my class. He says they're they're fiddly kits, but they go together fine. Just right out of the box. It'll be fun. So. Cool. yeah know Cool. So that's next on the bench?
00:27:34
Torben Rothgeb
Not quite yet. Oh, okay. No. Well, your bench is quite full. It is. The motorcycle's almost done. So, okay. Good 10 footers. Yeah. So. um Themes ah for 2026 is the, what was it? 60 years the 60 years of Dodge Chargers. So any Dodge Charger. Everyone got their Charger ready to go? i do. Pretty close, yeah.
00:27:58
Torben Rothgeb
Speaking of Continoans, I have a Charger 500 also. okay. ah This one was driven, almost won the 69 Daytona ah With our our buddy Charlie Glatzbach. What color is it? And that's the same kind of dark. Oh, no, you said it's a Charger Daytona or Charger 500. Yes, that's the yeah same ah dark red, but then it has the yellow stripe.
00:28:27
Torben Rothgeb
And I'm, you know, fingers crossed using a Fred Katie sheet ah for that. So hopefully it goes together all right. Cool. Using the tried and true MPC kit. ah Well, you can use that that clear over the decals too if you want.
00:28:45
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. yeah You know, the um micro scale stuff. Uh-huh. It will give you an ah extra layer of protection. Oh, yeah, yeah. For the KD. You know, katie I have not had problems with KD's ripping.
00:29:00
Torben Rothgeb
um I actually used a couple of KD ones on the 72 or a 71 Javelin. The only problem with them is they're not super opaque. Cause the white, I had to double up.
00:29:16
Torben Rothgeb
I had to double up on the white. okay Yeah. Especially over the blue. What's your, what's your charger plan? Uh, it's a funny car. That's what I'll say. It's a charger, funny car. So mine is Leeway Arbor's, um, 66 car.
00:29:32
Torben Rothgeb
That's a great car. That's a great car. Huh? You're going to use the same purple. no I'm not. I've got the MCW purple. Why not? Why not? I've already got a mix. I've got the MCW paint and Brad Knight sold me the decal sheet. It's an old sheet from yesterday. Yesterday's decals, but it's an interesting car. I won a couple of races that year. And, um, I always liked that version of the charger. So yeah actually speaking of that, i saw a really nice picture of, um, um,
00:29:59
Torben Rothgeb
Leroy Arbo when he had the red 67 or 68 or 66 Charger. Okay. It was a, it was a numbers. Yeah. it was a K and K car. It's a really great side view shot and he's standing next to the car. It's color, but it's, it's pretty cool. But i don't think you ever want anything with that car.
00:30:15
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. Um, but that was, that was kind of his, you know, mm-hmm. his first really successful car that he got to drive. Yeah. Yeah. yeah And then he, you know, got into 69 and the rest is history. So yeah, he was ah actually before they had the Winston million, he was the first one to win the Winston million before they had it. You know, which was of course with Bill Elliott won in 85 where we run three out of the four.
00:30:41
Torben Rothgeb
You know, Coke 600, Daytona 500, Southern 500. I mean, if you can't find a charger to build. I know. Just forget it. Oh, yeah. Come on. It has to be one of the more popular kits or subjects that's ever been done.
00:30:56
Torben Rothgeb
We had a lot for the Five Alive, and I think we'll have more for this. I think we'll have a lot. Yeah. yeah know you know You never know, though. It's just you know you never know what strikes your fancy or whatever. i know.
00:31:08
Torben Rothgeb
i know But it'll be it scales you know scale-wise, there's everything from 43rd to 116th to whatever. so you know Thinking about it, in my head I was going through and I feel like every charger early on at least was covered, ah was kitted.
00:31:28
Torben Rothgeb
um it It makes me wonder why, with especially with all these reissues, um maybe they thought with MPC or AMT Round 2 having the 71-72 charger that there wouldn't be interest in the stock 73-74 charger. But they had that kit out like in the late 70s but never came back. Did they ever do anything with the tooling for I don't know if you can picture the 70s version. It was like red on the box. And it was a, you know. It was street machine. Street machine, yes. It had the smoked windows in it that basically you couldn't see through. Yes. What have they? Well, they still have, yeah, they still have the tooling that. would think that would be one that they would bring out. Oh, yeah. I mean, though the only reason they wouldn't is if the tooling was, if there was something missing.
00:32:21
Torben Rothgeb
Uh-huh. um Because they're bringing that 67 back out again. Yeah, I saw that. And that is in the same series of cars, you know, as far as the MPC Street Machine series. Mm-hmm.
00:32:34
Torben Rothgeb
So if, if they had it, I would think that they would bring it back out. Now they had, did have the 72 that they brought back out or whatever the one that, and that was a new tool. Right. 70, 71, I guess it is. That's the one that, uh, Tyler built for the, for fine scale. Yeah. Um, And he's actually working on the, he actually posted some pictures yesterday of the 70 Revell charger that he's building right now for a kit review. And it's taken while because he's doing the extra stripe that goes around the, you know, like the Coke bottle.
00:33:10
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. And that kind of it's a 70. So it's got, you know, the 70 grill in it, but it's looking, it's poppy red. That's what he's painting it. And it's looking really good. So cool. cool I'm sure you'll take it around and enter it in the contests yeah contests all over the world. so The second theme is really I like a lot is the race cars of the 80s. I think it's a great one.
00:33:33
Torben Rothgeb
so What are you building for that? I'm going to do a Lancia S4 rally car because that was the 80s with the era of the killer bees. oh they really monster rally car yes once I got a new new kit.
00:33:46
Torben Rothgeb
which paid a lot of money for. But I also got a detailed book for it. I'm going to open up the back. Both ends open up. What did you get that from? The book? No, the mount the model. I was in Arizona and I got it. Oh, okay. Andy's? No, at the Ace Hardware shop.
00:34:03
Torben Rothgeb
and where They had an incredible selection of kits. Ace Hardware? it's and There's a famous hobby shop in Tucson. Oh, okay. what's right What's south of Phoenix? Is that Tucson?
00:34:14
Torben Rothgeb
I think that's south of – I went from Phoenix, Arizona, all the way to Tacoma. Yeah, okay, okay. All right, thank What's the city that's the south of Phoenix? Yeah, Tucson, I think, north. I think it's north, yeah. This is – God damn it. It's a famous hobby shop. there's a big, great big.
00:34:36
Torben Rothgeb
Ace Hardware, and then there's a huge Hobby Shop. And it's got it's got more kits than I've seen in a long time. Tim Boyd-esque? Oh, it was amazing. Okay. I mean, and everything. Huge armor selection, huge airplane selection, huge car selection. oh So I'm doing the Lancia. What are you thinking of?
00:34:53
Torben Rothgeb
I'm doing a ah funny car, actually, right now. That's the plan, and it's ah one of our resin bodies, so I'm excited about it. i actually and i have some decals that Slick sent me because I didn't have them any anymore. It was one of the first cars that we did with with Slick, so I'm kind of excited about that.
00:35:13
Torben Rothgeb
Cool. it an Omni Corvette? No, no, no. Okay. Arrow? not No comment. No comment. No, it's I'm not going to say because i' say you I don't want to jinx it. but What about you, Maestro?
00:35:24
Torben Rothgeb
You know, I was thinking that unless you're doing a NASCAR, things kind of – You don't have as many options as if you were doing, obviously, the 60s, which has everything. You have drag racing is all over the place. know what the Charger's saying now? Just racing. Racing in general. You have Pan Am, Formula One.
00:35:47
Torben Rothgeb
But once you get in the 80s, you have them, but they're not as exciting jump off the page. Well, there's a ton of Formula One cars that Tamiya But there's a lot of monogram kits you could do, though. Oh, for NASCAR. That's what I mean.
00:36:01
Torben Rothgeb
And, you know, even for drag. Indy cars, yeah. I mean, know the pro-stock cars of that era, that Camaro. I already built a Camaro, um... What's the white and orange? Rear Morrison.
00:36:13
Torben Rothgeb
Rear Morrison. Who's the famous Ford guy? Kenny Bernstein. Bob Glidden. There's a lot of 80s drag racing. Great endurance cars, Porsche 956s. You could build a million of those. Yep, IMSA stuff. IMSA The Mustangs. There's a ton of cool stuff. There's also there no reason that you can't. It's just a matter of, you know.
00:36:36
Torben Rothgeb
it's just separate separate as cool as the sixties and seventies, but and separate unique stuff. It depends. on I mean, like you were talking before about, I, I bust you up about this muscle car era, but to me, the eighties, know, drag racing was probably the best era. Well, because it was really popular and there was still, the car still resembled the real car.
00:37:01
Torben Rothgeb
And, um, there were some really competitive teams, you know, it's, um, Don Perdom and, uh, you know, the blue max and some of that stuff. It's all timeless.
00:37:13
Torben Rothgeb
yeah You know, you've built some of that. I built the blue max Mustang. Uh, to me, the last really cool, funny car for me was that firebird. And they did, you did a good job with the firebird warrior kit. Oh, Miller warrior. Yep. Miller warrior. And then I, I, um, but that was an, that's an, and,
00:37:32
Torben Rothgeb
ah I have had that Pepsi Challenger on my mind for a while, and ah Atlantis is even reissuing that. So, um you know, that would be cool.
00:37:43
Torben Rothgeb
I got these decals, and I think it's from my your buddy who you have the lifetime decals from, Chuck Borner. Oh, wow. that's That's a fantasy that I that i live every re live every day. Yes. But, no, it's it's not true, unfortunately. But, yeah, no, he's got some really interesting stuff. He some Mountain Dew decals from John Force.
00:38:02
Torben Rothgeb
I've seen the guy I met in Chuck McHugh. No, I've never met him. on and no he's from He's from Indiana. okay um yeah What's that? Mountain Dew stuff? what do you say about i'm sorry On the thing, it's a Camaro funny car.
00:38:20
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, that's that's but John Force. yes I just gave him all the reference material for that. Oh, nice. nice Well, they said ah you can modify the Firebird body.
Model Car Kit Releases
00:38:31
Torben Rothgeb
It wouldn't be that hard. Okay. I can show you how to do it. It's great. yeah Well, basically, you know, the the headlights on that car were decals.
00:38:43
Torben Rothgeb
So you're basically, you're taking, I mean, it it would be a little bit of work, but it's doable. You putty and sand where the Firebird headlights are. Yep. And then just put the Camaro decals on. Okay. maybe Maybe I will try to get that one in. I tell you, the monogram funny car chassis is so good.
00:39:01
Torben Rothgeb
I mean, I was amazed because I had the mindset from building those Revell 70s funny cars that I'm like building when I built the Blue Max Mustang. I'm like, this is going together so easy. what what is Have I gotten to be a better modeler? No. um It was just engineered like all monogram stuff. was really well engineered. Bob Johnson was the product development manager, and he he changed the game when it came to he got monogrammed back on the on the map.
00:39:35
Torben Rothgeb
And, you know he did those Trans Am Mustangs and some of that stuff. And the only thing the only thing that I would say that it's ah it's not a big deal is that those 80s Firebirds and those punny cars do not have, like, a body latch that you can – you know, you want to display the body up on the car.
00:39:56
Torben Rothgeb
They don't give you a part in the tree. Oh, to hold it up. Right. I mean, it's it's just, you know, buy some evergreen, bend it up. It's not a big deal. Or use one from another kit. No, there isn't one that matches that era. Oh, that height. Exactly. You have to make it. So you have to make it work. But it's it's no big it's not a big deal.
00:40:15
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. Okay. Even for the assembler, they could handle that. Maybe. Not pointing any fingers. No, of course not. But, yeah, no, there's there's plenty of material. I mean, like, like you can't. There's of stuff. And I think there's some really cool, like you said, the rally cars. ton of great rally cars. Those are fantastic. That Lancia stuff. The Lancia stuff was dynamite. The Audis of that era, the Peugeots. You've got all the Porsche 934s, 935s, 956s. You've got a ton of cars to build.
00:40:44
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. You know, I mean – So the Lamsia, the Tamiya kit, ah the Lamsia with the, what's the red and green? That's the Italia sponsorship. that's that's us That's an endurance car. That would have been the 70s though, right? That's that 70s to suffer these yeah Yeah, it's hard. Sometimes you have to go up you know.
00:41:06
Torben Rothgeb
You think it's an 80s car, but it's really not. Right. So you have to be careful. But, you know, we're and we're not going to make people bring in instruction sheets or anything like that. Sorry. Maybe Jim Allen. but in Yes. Well, you know, before we can move on to 2026, so we do have some goodbyes for 2025 people. um And as a ah kid that spent probably too much time watching TV in that era. We lost some ah really big TV characters. We lost Norm from Cheers.
00:41:46
Torben Rothgeb
We lost Flo from Kiss My Grips. Absolutely. Hot Lips Houlihan from M.A.S.H. Loretta Sweat. And Meathead, sadly. Two out of three in back. not meatloaf meathead from all in the family so all of that's right i was just we were just watching that the other night and they're doing a me tv tribute thing uh-huh and they're showing episodes and it's they were hilarious it's a right it's like hilarious you could not do that at all today know just the political ramifications yeah between uh
00:42:26
Torben Rothgeb
archie Archie and Meathead. But it's really well done. It was groundbreaking TV at the time. The acting is phenomenal. The stories are great.
00:42:40
Torben Rothgeb
Really good mix of racial tension. oh and George george jeff Jefferson. They started getting some guests and they had spinoff shows from that. lot of spinoffs. He was film director. he did the princess bride he did well you you talk about and some the diversity you know because some directors who are really famous they all their movies are kind of similar but i mean hit it out of the park in the 80s with like legendary movies but they were all different and you know had stand by me which was just this awesome journey buddy friendship coming of age movie yeah but then You had When Harry Met Sally, which is ah the ultimate kind of rom-com one. But then you had a revolutionary um Spinal Tap. it's fine which And I don't know if that was the first to do it, but it was the first one that I noticed with the mockumentary. Because that type of humor then was copied the office. It must have been a lot of fun to make the movie. When you think about it, even the directing.
00:43:49
Torben Rothgeb
They're probably just falling on the ground laughing. Right. You know, coming up with these, you know. And you look at these rock stars and and they're so mockable. They're so easy to make fun of. Right, yeah. So that. So anyway, yeah, that says that's a big author. Gene Hackman, another fantastic actor. yeah talking about another really sad death, too. Yeah. about You know. Oh, yeah fine out fine i and no yeah, Gene Hackman. That was awful. For a long time.
00:44:16
Torben Rothgeb
while. And from Danville, Illinois, um which also had ah our beloved Dick Van Dyke turned 100 this year. So who would think of Danville, Illinois as being the epicenter? How could you not think of the Hackman and think of The French Connection? Just a fantastic movie. He had a lot of really great movies.
00:44:35
Torben Rothgeb
And Val Kilmer. I'll be your Huckleberry. You can be my wingman. That's one of my favorite movies. Great movie. or For Western. It's the best. And then, ah you know, Ozzy Osbourne, I was amazed. He did ah he did like a concert um almost like a month before he died. Oh, yeah. Which reminded me of... um They had, ah you being the Christmas season, they had David Bowie did this song. Was it Bing Crosby? Little Drummer Boy. Like a month before Bing Crosby passed. Yeah, yeah. So, um boy, these entertainers, they go right up until the And the Hulk, I mean, I didn't. Hulk Hogan. wasn't a big fan, but I didn't know much about him. But, yeah. and second Signature heart attack.
00:45:22
Torben Rothgeb
Right. Oh, was it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what killed him. Yeah. mean ah He was in his 70s, right? Maybe I was. Yeah, he was in 70s. 72 or something like that.
00:45:33
Torben Rothgeb
And, you know, Redford's one of those guys that every man looks at and goes, okay. you don't deserve to be that handsome because, you know, every woman thought he was just like the most handsome fellow on the planet, you know.
00:45:47
Torben Rothgeb
I mean, and he was a really good actor. He was in some wonderful films. Yeah, a couple of my favorite you know favorite movies with, you know, with Paul Newman and stuff, just, um oh, yeah. I can't swim. It's a great line. Yes. Yeah, I mean, yeah. He was great.
00:46:02
Torben Rothgeb
yeah and the sting yeah the classic just a classic all the president's men he's great in that you talk about like with the movies he directed though they moved at such a kind of slow pace oh yeah ordinary people don't think people would be able to handle that nowadays where it's like 15 explosions oh yeah they were naturally falling asleep yeah that's another great one he did uh we had we were staying up in gunflint mountain and they had all these old vhs cassettes and uh My father-in-law recommended Jeremiah Johnson. That's really a slow-paced film. is such a slow-paced movie. I saw that my father took us to the theater when I was a kid.
00:46:47
Torben Rothgeb
And we saw that, and I was just like...
00:46:53
Torben Rothgeb
i'm like i'm never gonna be the same yeah right i mean i know you know you had the the indian woman that he ends up you know with or whatever and she can't speak you know yes at all right i mean it was it was and for a kid i mean it was weird it was very strange i mean it's an odd movie yes i mean it was well done and everything but But we put it on like at 10 o'clock at night too. And we just keep watching. It's like this has got to pick up at some point, yeah but no, it never did. So he really liked that ah slow developing and, you know, by doing it what right up until the end, he had the, uh, Leah and I went to, to see, uh, the man, old man and the gun. or then yeah And that was the same pace, uh, really slow.
00:47:41
Torben Rothgeb
Um, but you know, uh, And another great actress next to his name was Diane Keaton, who was, of course, I'll always remember, i'm a big Woody Allen fan, so, you know, obviously Annie Hall, and she was fantastic in that. She was fantastic in his other films.
00:47:58
Torben Rothgeb
The Godfather, right? And she was in The Godfather. had a smaller role. Smaller role, but she played it well. She did well. She was a very, very good actress. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Everybody dancing. I mean, you know, thank you for prince so for Prince. He was Prince before Prince. Yeah. Thank you for letting me be myself. You know, he was great.
00:48:19
Torben Rothgeb
is that So I wanted to talk about Greg Biffle because, you know, obviously it was the last, probably the last for the year. knock on boys let's Yeah. I mean, it was a shocker.
00:48:32
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. I mean, you know, cause he is, he was retired, right? Yeah. who Um, you know what's his What was his signature? you know When was he in his prime as far as a driver? It i had to be with... He drove for Roush. For Roush. He drove the 16 car.
00:48:50
Torben Rothgeb
but i mean He was one of Roush's favorite drivers, obviously, at the time, right? Don't you think? Yeah. Yeah, well, it was really interesting listening to the Mark Martin podcasts. And again, you know, as we talked about the not recently, but with, you know, the way talking about David Pearson and some of these guys who are like really ah geniuses of what they did, but maybe not the best communicators and. Martin talking about his relationship with Jack Roush, where he talks about being really kind of scared of Jack Roush and having a tense relationship. sure um So I don't know if he would have had any of his favorites, but um he had some really successful years. he started out in the truck series, driving the the Granger truck. um and maybe who knows hopefully uh this i you know talking about doing that quaker state truck it's an unfortunate thing about doing any of those trucks is you're you're left with the um kit decals right because between those and the slicks decals they're thicker so they held up better over time um but maybe they would do decals you know with his passing for for a granger truck uh that he drove and i think He might have won the championship or not. He was really good with the truck.
00:50:06
Torben Rothgeb
um I know that was the era where Jack Sprague, yeah and um who was in that Ron Hornaday, and then there's one other guy who drove for.
Racing Career Highlights
00:50:18
Torben Rothgeb
The Lowe's car and NASCAR Skinner seemed like those guys were dominating, but I think Biffle might have won one there. And then, you know, he was pretty successful in the 16 car. I would guess off the top of my head, he probably had about 10 wins maybe. Did he go at the ladder of trucks, Bush? I don't know much Bush racing he did. He might have gone straight to the Winston Cup. I thought he ran a couple seasons in Bush. He could Yeah, probably. Because I know Roush had a pretty active, it seemed like, Bush team as well. Yeah.
00:50:52
Torben Rothgeb
so um But no, he he ran and he drove like, I think, I think of the 3M car and some other things. um Unfortunately, it's not the greatest era for kits, you know, because, um you know, right after, you know, 2003 and four, then the kits kind of fell off and they were kind of not well detailed and then leveled off. So it's... ah Not the easiest to find if you wanted to build a Biffle car. You could, but it probably wouldn't be the greatest kit and it probably wouldn't the greatest decals because you're dealing with like old slicks decals or stuff. But yeah, just a tragic death. You know, it's ironic now they've made racing so safe that. um, a lot of the more recent deaths have airplanes, you know, it's starting with Davey Allison and his helicopter crash. And then, you know, he had Alan Kowicki in the airplane crash. Hell, uh, uh, um, Roush almost died and, uh, his plane crashed, but he just happened to be, uh, like an ambulance or first responder happened to be right in the area when he crashed and was able to, uh, Patch him up. And so he had a near death experience. Certainly all the, what was it? Rick Hendrick, Rick Hendrick's son, Ricky Hendrick or whatever, died in plane crash, which I tried. don't like big planes, but I certainly try to avoid those little planes because those do seem pretty dangerous. Going back in time, we had to go to... It is funny when you come across those people who lived those really long lives and then you're like, he was still alive? How old was Rex White? He had to be in his 90s. Yeah, because he got in the Hall of Fame.
00:52:39
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, and he won a ah championship in... Was it 60? Yeah, No, 61 Ned Jarrett won.
00:52:51
Torben Rothgeb
60? It was 60, think. Yeah, 62, Joe, and Weatherly one in 62 and 63. So, yeah, it was 60. And I, well, I built the 61. I started out trying to build the 60, but it ended up being a lot of work. Because what you had to do is the monogram, Revell monogram kit at the time, you had to, it had a separate chrome piece for the side trim, which is easy if you're building stock version. but But then if you're building the NASCAR version, I mean, it might be as easy as removing the trim, but it seemed even harder. And that was and then I'd seen pictures of where there were holes drilled. yeahp So I felt like... use
00:53:33
Torben Rothgeb
were Well, this is why I went with the 61 Lindbergh kit. I just wondered where you were going with it. The 60 kit was so hard. We're all over the place, yes. Yeah, yeah. well that's So you had to put in their chrome strip that they put in, right but then you had to sand it flush, and then you had to drill holes in it where it was removed. Right. So all of that.
00:53:55
Torben Rothgeb
led me to not do the 60 which i want to do championship one but i built the 61 it's a great paint scheme the gold car with the white what the linbergh kit yep yep and that's a nice kit they said it is a nice kit um so that's rex white humpy wheeler uh which was just a real innovator you talk about somebody who really was uh a great promoter where he had like was it Cool buses, jumping. He would do anything. He owned the Charlotte Speedway. He a Charlotte guy, yeah. Charlotte Morris Speedway.
00:54:25
Torben Rothgeb
Yep. And so he had that, and he he really pushed ah for, like, Janet Guthrie, then also African-American drivers and stuff, to anything that would put asses in the seats. In the seats, that's what he wanted. He pushed for. um So, ah you know, it's sad to see him. Wasn't he the one that pervaded the – The four wide drag racing thing?
00:54:52
Torben Rothgeb
I don't know. Oh, it could be. humre You're the bigger drag racing fan than I am. Who's the other big promoter besides Humpy Wheeler? That's in Charlotte. Oh, yeah. Who who bought ah he bought out North Wilkesboro, too? That's not going to help me at all.
00:55:09
Torben Rothgeb
That's not going to help you. on north I'm not a big North Wilkesboro big nw guy bruden smith bruden smith that's who it was bruden smith was the one that put the four wide thing together who and then in the hobby we had some great people yeah um bill colter yeah which you know and you know i feel like i'm talking about pioneer days but um You know, if you can imagine a time before the internet where, you know, most scale auto and Bill Coulter's books, you know, living in a small town before I moved to Minneapolis with all the wonderful clubs and stuff like that, where I was just kind of thought I was the only person in the world building model
Industry Tributes
00:55:49
Torben Rothgeb
cars. But what a great reference that scale model stock car book was for for how to build all different kinds of things. So ah kudos to Bill Coulter.
00:56:02
Torben Rothgeb
And Mr. Tamiya, who passed away early in the year. That's a legendary company. yeah And he was the guy who started it. yeah Yeah. So so it's ah you know I remember hearing a conversation that my stepdad, not stepdad, my father-in-law, and his brother were having, and they were talking about their childhood. And as they're going on, I'm thinking, and then they mentioned kind of like, you know, all the people that, that have passed on. was like, Christ, everybody in this story is dead. And, uh, but sadly with each year you lose more and more people.
00:56:37
Torben Rothgeb
Um, but that just becomes a, a life unfortunately. Um, so, but, but a lot of, lot of big people we lost this year on to happier things, on to happier things. Um,
00:56:50
Torben Rothgeb
a kit of the year for 2025. Um, and I'm going to rush through this list really quick and, uh, stop me. If you yeah have a list, so that's, I do. So stop me. If you get to something that says, that's it. oh That was the kit of the year. ill And, uh, I got, uh, just, uh,
00:57:11
Torben Rothgeb
A lot of them, more you know and or most of them are reissues, but okay. So we have the 70 Cyclone, which is an old MPC kit. It does build up pretty good. If you want to get in the weeds, you can make your own chassis. Is this Revell you're talking about? No, this is an old MPC kit. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
00:57:31
Torben Rothgeb
The Beretta GT2. No. The Long Nose Funny Car. No. How accurate is that? Is that not not accurate at all? It's based off of a drawing, basically. The artist that drew it up.
00:57:44
Torben Rothgeb
um I'm not really sure why it's been reissued. was they found the mold and it's, let's just see what happens. But no, it's not accurate at all. So you couldn't build it. Okay. That's good. Cause I was, I was thinking, I know you've asked me a couple of times. and i well you know I'm trying to, I'm trying to warn you. oh don't worry. Danger, danger. Exactly. Will Robinson. Right.
00:58:06
Torben Rothgeb
Charger Street Machine. That's the 67. Do like the the people in the know, like the Hallidays, do they feel like that MPC body is more accurate than the wow or availabl mid to late 90s? I don't think anybody's going to disagree with that. I mean, it's it's the MPC was the kit.
00:58:24
Torben Rothgeb
If you look at 66, that was the first year. yep That was an MPC annual. So the promo would have been MPC. Yeah. Okay. So, mean, that's... So, I mean, that's... That is right on the money, and it's, you know, pretty worth quite a bit of money now because, you know, they turned it into a 67. I mean, it's not difficult to make it into a 67.
00:58:46
Torben Rothgeb
It's mostly interior stuff, right? ah Yeah, and that there's a... I think there's a couple of emblems or something that you have to um find or whatever. But, yeah, no, it's it's pretty much the same car.
00:58:58
Torben Rothgeb
But, yeah, no, I think accuracy-wise, I think it's... Yeah, I mean, I think it's a welcome reissue. Maybe possible contender. No, I don't. Yeah, I mean, I think yeah personally, I think you you have two categories. You have reissues and then new tools because new tools are a lot of work.
00:59:18
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. Especially nowadays with China and all that stuff. So I think you can easily... separate those out okay well then we have maybe not i don't know let's see what we have the coke racers wedge uh 72 duster 60 nomad 65 cool yeah those aren't out yet though okay so i mean if you have to really go with what's i mean if december 31st the 65 cuda comes out and tyler's building one okay but she will be so you know then you know i mean really so we should it's not well by the duster nomad and cuda
00:59:54
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. Okay. So those will actually be out in January. Ralph's expecting to have them at the next MCCM. I want to see that. That's going to be feeding frenzy. Yeah, well, yeah. No, it don't be it'll be ah it'll be a one for the ages. Yeah. yeah no Sounds like it. Yeah, it'll be fun.
01:00:10
Torben Rothgeb
All right. We have the Nova Wagon and wal Altered Gasser. Oh, that's also next year, isn't it? I thought it was out, but it's not out. No, this is a 65 Nova wagon. This stuff is too fresh. that's's It's good to be on the cusp of what's new. Our fans out there. right all right a Malco Gasser. That's a reissue. That's a reissue. It's in a tin. Yes.
01:00:38
Torben Rothgeb
So it's more expensive, but it's basically same great taste. Yes. twenty In a new container. So it's really not, I mean,
01:00:49
Torben Rothgeb
the deq The thing the thing you you have to understand is that it's... If you look at the Malco Gasser, when they first brought the kit out, yes it was not accurate. No, it has 65 Mustang in the front. It has 65 front clip, which was wrong. It wasn't until round two actually did fix it. Yep.
01:01:07
Torben Rothgeb
And now it's... New again. I was hoping they were going to come out with the other version that was like ruby red with the Mr. Gasket. Right. That was that was the clear bodied kit. Okay. Yes.
01:01:21
Torben Rothgeb
But yeah, no, that, that, I don't know if, um I'm not sure that that thing's around anymore. I'd have to look. I mean, as far as if they still have the tooling, because if they did, they would have brought it back out because Ohio George was all about getting his,
01:01:37
Torben Rothgeb
his name out there. So yeah I told you the story about, know, when he called me, so we don't get into that, but, okay but anyway, so yeah, no, it's, it's a, it's a very accurate kit, the Malco gasser. I had fun building it. Yeah. You did a nice job on it. Yeah. And that's that way I would consider as the silk purse.
01:01:57
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. Cause it's not an easy thing to build. It's very complicated. Yeah. Is this the silver blue one? Yeah, it's the metal flake blue silver. He went on the the ISCA show circuit with it.
01:02:08
Torben Rothgeb
And kind of fogged around the wheel openings and around the door handles. Tim Boyd actually built one too. Yeah, he did a nice job. you know And then there's the Maverick. That's the multi-Maverick. That think is supposed to come out too. I don't know whatever happened to it. but Well, speaking of Mavericks, there's a picture of a Maverick kit, but they don't know if that's AI and not real that I've been looking at. Recently? Yeah. Oh, the Mobius one? Upcoming kits. Yeah, but it's a stock one on the box.
01:02:35
Torben Rothgeb
It's blue. um Nobody knows where it came from. Wow. but yes, it's good one. 2021 hellcat uh like dodge charger um probably that that would be that would be new tooling though that's new tooling uh well and our our buddy jim allen did a couple cop car versions of the this kind of similar yeah that's it oh and then uh on our uh ah One of the Facebook pages, ah somebody else was doing one.
01:03:06
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, yeah. justs good Tristan's bringing a building a highway patrol version, and it's fantastic. Yeah, it looks good. He's putting he's a good build, but he's putting the time in yeah on this thing, and it's going to be like the real thing.
01:03:20
Torben Rothgeb
He's going to have working gumball lights on it. Yeah. Good for him. You saw him, right? Yeah, I saw it on, it looked really good. Yeah, he's a really nice guy, too. Super good guy. Jim Allen, he saw him, I think it was last year's show. No, he was like, who is that person?
01:03:39
Torben Rothgeb
I said, he's been in the club, Jim, for like three years. and I don't know who he is. Yeah.
01:03:47
Torben Rothgeb
Well, Tristan's very quiet. Yeah, well, no, he is he is quiet, but, you know, he's he's ah he's a good builder. He's a very good builder. Good guy. It's great to have him in the club. All right. Is this too AMT 32 Ford Tudor sedan?
01:04:00
Torben Rothgeb
Actually, that is too new, but it should be out. pretty soon. I mean, I think a lot of this stuff would be out right now so if it wasn't for the tariffs. Hot Wheels, they have the 57 Chevy Flipnose, the 69 Camaro, and it's not even the good 69 Camaro version, right? It's a high-gram mid-80s 69 Camaro? Well, no, let's step back. I mean, it's okay. Yeah, let's step back. So what's this? This is the Hot Wheels one? Yeah, it has the Hot Wheels stuff on the box. And that's a Camaro.
01:04:32
Torben Rothgeb
ah Well, they have about four of them. They have a Cougar, a Mercury Cougar, a 57 Chevy Flipnose, a 69 Camaro. Yeah, Hot Wheels box.
01:04:44
Torben Rothgeb
um But maybe that's coming out next year. Is it a cougar, though? It's too bad those are disqualified. Well, I know we really have a hard time figuring out what we're going to pick then. Okay, let's move on. Dump truck. Let's move on. All right, now we'll move into. What dump truck? um the big The big one that they shouldn't have brought out, the one that was all new tooling? Is that what you're talking about?
01:05:07
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, no, or is this – I think it might be a reissued dump truck. But you don't know what it is. Revell. We're still on round two. We'll be talking about it for 20 minutes and not know what it is. Right, right. Yes, we don't want that. Let's move along. what's next? All right. Now we're moving over to Revell. Okay. That doesn't help me.
01:05:25
Torben Rothgeb
Well, they have – There's some stuff, though. They have the 70 Jeep pickup. Mm-hmm. reissue i think 85 jimmy uh high roller edition that's another reissue captain hook tow truck yeah we're going downhill chevy love four by four we're really going down now the c8 vet convertible uh well i mean that could be that's basically the same reval uh corvette that you know yes bill bill reed sort of built yeah and gladstein built right yeah
01:05:57
Torben Rothgeb
2024 Mustang GT. Unfortunately, it's curbside. That's a snap kit, too, I believe. 85 Fiero reissue. That's an MPC kit.
01:06:09
Torben Rothgeb
or No, you're right. It's a Revell kit. That's actually a really nice kit. But that's a reissue. 91 S10 Lowrider. Reissue. 64 GTO reissue.
01:06:22
Torben Rothgeb
um Then we have... ah Let's see. Any... Oh, they had a Ravelle of Germany, I think the Mustang GT350R. Yeah, that's that's a really nice kit. That's a reissue, but it's, you know, it's the Ravelle kit.
01:06:40
Torben Rothgeb
It's the old Monogram 124. Vince Slobosco did just a phenomenal job on one of those. Mercedes-Benz 300 SLR something.
01:06:52
Torben Rothgeb
something this is It had a different front, though. It had like the gull wing whose doors that came up. Ravel? It's the Oolanot Coupe. Oolanot. It's the Oolanot Coupe, yeah. It's the guy they made one. Oolahoo? Oolahoo? What? He was the director of Mercedes, and they made him a coupe.
01:07:09
Torben Rothgeb
Paul Johnson built one, did a phenomenal job on one. It's just it's a coupe, but it's not a gull wing. It's Ravel kit? Yeah, Ravel's had the two in three years. Ravel Germany. Ravel Germany. It's a reissue. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't there Mobius stuff? ah la ah Lamborghini Rivalate or something. That's a Rival kit, right? Yep.
01:07:29
Torben Rothgeb
ah McLaren, they're also coming out with. Oh, i was going to ask you about this. Mercedes Lewis Hamilton. ah assume it's an F1 car. Yeah, they're doing one of the – they don't have the licensing for the new cars. It's like a 2000 – 10 or 2012 when they're really ugly era cars, but they're doing a 25th scale one. Did he, did he want a championship? No, there's not. It's before he went to Mercedes. That's a, ah it's a McLaren or is it a Mercedes?
01:07:56
Torben Rothgeb
Um, Mercedes. And who's doing that? MP425, Louis. MP425 would be a McLaren then. bra so It's a McLaren Mercedes, Mercedes engine power.
01:08:08
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. Yeah. All right. Moving on. It's a Chrome car with a red. It's, it's okay. Yeah. A Bree Dotson pickup. oh that's ah That's a round two one. yeah That's actually kind of interesting. I think it'll do okay. That's the NPC.
01:08:24
Torben Rothgeb
That's the sister to the little ah Little Hustler. Hustler. The infamous.
Kit Production Discussion
01:08:31
Torben Rothgeb
But yeah, I mean, it's same great taste. yeah Well, then Mobius did those 46 shirts. Mobius has the 64 Comet, both the pro-touring version. Well, there you go. there there's a There's a front runner right there. yeah And they had the tow truck. Okay. And one of those, you know, I was drawn to the box, but then you get to it and then it's like,
01:08:56
Torben Rothgeb
Do I really want this? I've got to do a lot of weathering. A tow truck. You can it do a factory fresh. That's okay. and you you know And you can put the tow parts out in front. yes Like our famous... Jimmy Allen. They don't sell well. It's got a ton of parts. It's been out for a while. It's sold like...
01:09:21
Torben Rothgeb
crazy right real i would say that to i would say that could be fair i would say that i would give that the vote right now if i unless we find something or some other surprise. Didn't they do that the Chevys too? They reissued the 46 Chevy? That's just a reissue of the Galaxy. But they did did new body size. I thought Alan did a nice job on that Galaxy. He did a nice job. No, no, no, no, no. You didn't look at you were still sitting down, weren't you? Well, i yeah, yeah i think I think you need a another look. I should go up there with my monocle. No, you don't. No, could go up there with your beer glasses, and you wouldn't have any problem seeing the dust. Okay? It's terrible. didn't
01:10:07
Torben Rothgeb
It's terrible. I wouldn't say terrible. It's terrible. Now, I looked at his 60 in Cal, and that was nice. I thought that was nice. I thought he did a different show. Well, it's got the low rider, big ass wheels and tires on it. Well, you know, he was doing it from a show. Yeah, I know. Well, that's his excuse. But anyway. He got the last nut and bolts. Oh, yeah. He always does that, doesn't he? So did Mobius actually take, because they did the fastback and the sedan delivery. You're getting confused. Mobius did not do fastback. Mobius. Galaxy did those. Galaxy did all those body styles. Oh, they did. Okay. All right. right.
01:10:45
Torben Rothgeb
They did actually make a a convertible resin body, um but that was not in know like a production kit. So yeah, there's always the sedan delivery, the two-door...
01:10:57
Torben Rothgeb
uh, what do they call that? You know, that has the wood grain on it. Yep. That one. Um, and then the other, you know, big fastback, right? The fastback. Exactly. Those are the ones that they did. And those are all came back out and they're theyre around 50 bucks now, or they used to be 40, but it's the same great kit. You know, if was a custom guy, what put job on. We're still going, right?
01:11:23
Torben Rothgeb
yes yes of course Let me see. Well, and we haven't mentioned my favorite people in the world, Salvino's. Well, no, I figured we'd have a whole 15-minute no commercials. Give me a cookie.
01:11:41
Torben Rothgeb
Oddly enough, i did they do New Tool this year? I guess did they come out with a new Ford this year? Wasn't the Toyota this year? Well, no, they've sent the old Toyotas, which stock up if you want one um because they're ah doing – Oh, me bad.
01:11:56
Torben Rothgeb
they'll Well, it's really interesting to see supply and demand. You're getting tired, aren't you? I'm getting tired. The Toyotas. But, you know, say what you will. They had some cool paint schemes. I think the one you did was probably the best looking one. I the one you Thank you. it's definitely better than the...
01:12:15
Torben Rothgeb
Number 11. Oh, the ah FedEx one? Yeah, i'm I'm not a fan. i know. Yes. I'm the driver. i mean, the car is fine. Kudos to him, though. Him and Michael Jordan theoretically could have changed NASCAR's dictatorship with their lawsuit. Right. But that's not a bomb. We're not talking about that. We're not talking about that. But, no, the Salvino's, I think that this year they did – get the new Ford out. So
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01:12:45
Torben Rothgeb
that would have been their only new tour for this year. And they did a really good, the 21 throwback paint scheme.
01:12:53
Torben Rothgeb
That was a Lotus. Right. Oh yeah. paint the sixty five car And they did a Joey Logano one. Right. um Because I think like their Indy car was not no in new releases the year before. And unfortunately like new garden had a new, or no, I guess new garden was the year before this year. was our Alex Pillow.
01:13:14
Torben Rothgeb
So that's technically a DHL 2025 IndyCar. So they didn't have any new new releases this year, but next year it could be possible that they would have their funny car done, the new Toyota, the new Chevy.
01:13:31
Torben Rothgeb
And the beloved Lotus 38. So maybe next year will be a big year for Salvino's. Well, and then by then they'll have their um store open that's in the old house.
01:13:43
Torben Rothgeb
You know about that, right? No, i i hear the stories about ah poor, um and I think he had some operation, Rick's kid, Marco. Marco.
01:13:54
Torben Rothgeb
Marco Salvino, him and Chris seem to be doing all the heavy lifting and getting this store up and running. Right. Well, they're trying to buy a building, okay what I've heard. And this is the house where they're putting a lot of the stuff in the house, and they're going to have a store there in California.
01:14:14
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. Nice. Well, but it'll have everything, glue, paint, yeah sure so the all the essentials. We'll be taking a road trip. There we go. i said get the meat all I might be going to California in the spring, so I'll let you know. Oh, that would be cool. That would be nice. so i would I would definitely be making a run to the border.
01:14:35
Torben Rothgeb
ah Anyway. Yes. um So, ah you know, we don't need to get into Aoshima. No. They had a 78 Celico that looked like might cool. No. And a...
01:14:49
Torben Rothgeb
Who did the Fair Lady two four z is that That was another Japanese company. That could be. yeah BMW 318. Maybe we could get into the Nunu kits. Then you get the Nunu kits. There's a bunch of... yeah All right. So we better, unless we want to go all the rest the night. would go with the tow truck, personally. think the tow truck's a good choice.
01:15:10
Torben Rothgeb
Because, I mean, they they do... Well, either that or the Comet and the 65, 64 Comet.
01:15:17
Torben Rothgeb
sixty four comment ah pro The Pro Touring. Oh, we also had the Stranger Things cars. Those are all reissues. The Blazer was not, though. That was New Tool.
01:15:28
Torben Rothgeb
Hopper's Blazer. They've had a lot of similar ones. They had the 73 Snap one that they're going to release and the GMC. But I remember talking
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01:15:37
Torben Rothgeb
to the guys at the Nationals.
01:15:39
Torben Rothgeb
um and it apparently is a new tool. You went to the Nationals this year? ah went Well, not this year, but last year. They had all the stuff. i mean It was either ah the Milwaukee show. I talked to the guy because you know how they have all their sprues out for you to look at that. Ed Sxton. That would be Big Ed. so yes well Maybe next time you're on a Google... low I'm not on those anymore. Oh, that's unfortunate. so But no... um Yeah, okay. i You know, I have a hard time picking one, to be honest. Yeah, I think the Mobius, um the Comet, and the and the totra or the yeah tow truck. Well, here's to hoping that they do ah get that.
01:16:23
Torben Rothgeb
It's close. they do get that The Comet and Maverick. Yes, Comic and the Maverick. Those are very close. I don't really want to do a stock one. I would do the – Yeah, the first one won't be stock.
01:16:36
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. Is this the Maverick you're talking about? Yes. Maverick. Yep. Okay. Yep. Yep. All right. So – Moving on. Yes. ah Talking about 2025, do you guys have any movies or TV shows? um I'll go first. Really quick stuff.
01:16:53
Torben Rothgeb
a Man on the Inside with Ted Danson. We talked about Norm passing away with old Cheers ah stars. It's pretty funny. um Lighthearted stuff. Black Rabbit was a good – that had both – the guy from Ozark, Jason Bateman, did a great job. And then um the English guy. you off isnt there Yes. That's really good. Dark, good.
01:17:17
Torben Rothgeb
Though, Death by Lightning. um Garfield, not the cat, but the president. it It runs on parallel planes as far as you have the killer, the guy who assassinates him, and it has um him kind of, ah you know. and's It's a very good TV series. What about f one Yeah, I mean, Drive to Survive was wonderful. The one about the last season. I was talking about the movie. The movie F1. I mean, Jim and I went and saw it, and it was it was great.
01:17:47
Torben Rothgeb
It was entertaining. It entertained. yeah It was what you expect. It was good. It was kind of Days of Thunder maybe. a No question about it. yeah but it mean It was a money maker though which was hard to do and in 2025. And it was great it is great to, in the theater, it was really fun to watch. Oh, it was really well done. Yeah, it was well done. He was predictable. He was perfect. If you're into the Monster series, they did a great one with Jeffrey Dahmer.
01:18:17
Torben Rothgeb
um But the Ed Gein story. I like to sleep at night. But if you like a light-hearted murder, then Thursday Murder Club. I had Pierce Brosnan. How do you The Life of an Insomniac. I get a lot of modeling and a lot of shows on. That's fine. Then ah documentaries. I liked Becoming Led Zeppelin and a.k.a. Charlie Sheen was really good. I just watched one by Errol Morris, the great documentarian on the Manson murders.
01:18:51
Torben Rothgeb
Speaking lighthearted, but i mean, that was that was really good sort good I need to have another few of those. yeah Well, then as far as the movies, the Bruce Springsteen. I like that. I was really sad that that didn't do better because I really liked it. I thought it was really great. But, you know, unfortunately, I keep watching some of these top 10 movie lists and it doesn't show up on any of them. And I thought the actor did a nice job. It didn't do well in the theater.
01:19:19
Torben Rothgeb
ah Weapons did better, and that was a ah really good ah show where all these kids kind of disappear at the start of the a show. The only thing that they have in common is they have the same ah teacher. So all the kids from this class go, and so they're kind of blaming the teacher or asking the teacher. you If you watched Ozark, ah the girl, the young lady in Ozark that plays, you know kind of from that white trash family, plays the teacher.
01:19:46
Torben Rothgeb
Okay.
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01:19:47
Torben Rothgeb
And then Josh Broden ah plays one of the dads of one of the kids. Weapons is a really good show. And Sinners was also a good show. Michael B. Jordan yeah um was really good. um The one battle after another was good. The michael Paul Thomas Anderson film, that was good.
01:20:06
Torben Rothgeb
I like that. um
01:20:10
Torben Rothgeb
don't know. I mean, I'm trying to think of other ones I haven't been to. Maybe I'll go see Song of the Sun 2026? Yep, let's move along. Looking forward to. so things we're looking forward to. Shows, races, events that you are going to.
01:20:32
Torben Rothgeb
Well, I think, you know, I'm i'm always excited for the Hope and Don't Snow show in February. Great show. On the 6th of February. It's going to be another. should be a really good show again. Well, Jim and I had talked about possibly were thinking about maybe the Kansas the kansas City show.
01:20:49
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. ah yeah i'm I'm on the fence with that because it's right after yeah right after the NNL. And it's right quickly in between. Back to the 50s. Right. yeah Yeah, I think um there's definitely some potential, you know, to um what's the Fort Wayne? Yep, Fort Wayne is the national. Fort Wayne. Possible, you know, you never know. We could make another trip to Omaha or yeah to Detroit. yeah I would actually like to go to the spring show in Detroit if that if somebody's driving or whatever. You know, it's I'm not going to make know, a priority. But I'd like to go back to that again.
01:21:26
Torben Rothgeb
Well, my best buddy, Johns Weber, has already got a place for the Nationals. He's got a table or rooms. whatevers are So I think I'm traveling with him. thiss got You can't ask for more. you got a guy who did all his hotel stuff. oh Yeah, I know. He's got great deals on the hotel. He loves to drive. loves to drive. It's like, I'll just sleep in the back seat. Great. Those are the shows I'm looking forward to. That would be fun.
01:21:54
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. Yeah. so Well, and I'm making a proclamation and hopefully you guys can hold me to this. All right. Just like in the best George Herbert Walker of which read read my lips, no new taxes. 2026. All right. Bear with me.
01:22:13
Torben Rothgeb
I am not going to buy a kit or start a new kit, a new project. In 2026? In 2026. Yeah.
01:22:24
Torben Rothgeb
Sorry to say that. There has to be some rules here. so You've already ordered the Salvino's IndyCar. But that's where you ordered it before 2026. I'm okay with that. yeah you so That's still a lot of work.
01:22:39
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. Nor am I... Well, if you look in there, I've got all these things that are painted. I like i like where you're what you're thinking, but I just don't know if you can...
01:22:53
Torben Rothgeb
Can do it. Well, I mean, if you go to a show there's kits and there's good deals. a deal Yes. All right. So let's just we go step back and think about Detroit because when I saw you, and the doors had just opened.
01:23:09
Torben Rothgeb
I looked to the down the aisle and I went, my jaw dropped open. And I was like, and what is he doing with all these, to me, are on it vo i have got a of the woodkits. And he's still buying the money. Little did you know it wouldn't be the last Lotus 49 that I got in the year.
01:23:28
Torben Rothgeb
i was just I was just shocked because, um yes you know, that's what I loved about the show was that you could actually see down the aisles and you could find people. That was a great place. It was a great place. That was a great place, yes. And, um you know, it was very underrated. I thought it was a great venue. The downfall was the actual, you know, N&L was a joke. Yeah, it wasn't joke. But otherwise, you know, I thought it was a, you know, there was a lot of stuff to see. i mean, I wouldn't say joke. There was good stuff on the table. No, no. i Yeah, there was. mean, it was fine. Yeah, that was all right. You know, I mean, there's, I mean, for what the hype is, though.
01:24:03
Torben Rothgeb
No, I mean, the the ah the draw is the swap. But it's kind of always been that, right? I mean, and and even the show. When you have 300 tables. It ran in a parallel universe to like the opposite of the GSL, whatever, the Utah show. yes It was not about a super high-level contest of super competitiveness. It was just a bunch of guys sharing their builds. right And so from that standpoint, it's kind of carried on from the NNL Nationals. It was more fun to show.
01:24:37
Torben Rothgeb
yeah but right yeah There plenty of deals. Plenty of deals to be had. Plenty of deals. Superbirds. Superbirds. Good luck with that.
01:24:50
Torben Rothgeb
Well, good luck talking about new kit releases and stuff like that. Well, good luck with, because I'm really wondering, and I hope it's just my anxiety and worry about Salvino's, but they they really have slowed down yeah and um whether or not this Plymouth Superbird ever comes out.
01:25:12
Torben Rothgeb
So from that standpoint, it's good that you got the Johan one. And you know what? It's a good kit. It builds up good. You're exactly right. There's no reason that you need to build a different kit. Yeah. You're right. Absolutely. If you put the time into it like you did, um it's totally fine. Yeah.
01:25:32
Torben Rothgeb
you know It's the old, you know when when somebody's complaining about that stuff, they need to build one first and then they can shut their bloody mouth. yeah Absolutely. that's really Put your money where your mouth is and build it and don't just bring another Charger 500 to the show. Yes. Well, and that leads me to our question of the month because I'm thinking about the way ah Johan kits are put together. And I'm working on that Javelin, Mark Donahue car. And building it mostly out of the box, I'm adding some different things, but nothing over the – Which car as this is?
01:26:09
Torben Rothgeb
This is a 71 Javelin Transient car. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, it's turning out really well. You know, I'm adding some detailed stuff like the wheels and tires and stuff, but basically using the – just the basic nuts and bolts of the kit. And just like the Johan one, the 70 Superbird when I built it. And of course, people can't wait to come up and say, well, why don't you put the, you know, I hear the whatever fits like a glove under there. And so the age, oh yeah, nothing ever fits like a glove. You didn't that, did you? No, this was, you know, our esteemed builder, Andy Martin, who said that one. Oh, really? Yes. It's just like, oh, you know, I think it was a 69 Dodge Dart or the 68 Roadrunner people like to put under there. fits like a glove.
01:26:59
Torben Rothgeb
But anyway... um The question, and I'm sorry for being so long-winded. When I was listening to one of our members complain about the 65 Impala, which was one of those kits that was put together between the mid and late 90s, where the kit manufacturers really decided to go after the adult builder and add as much detail into a kit.
01:27:23
Torben Rothgeb
So my would you rather question would be, would you rather build a kit that goes together easily, you know, like the Johan ones that just, you know, everything's going to meld together. And if you do have to adjust the ride height, you can just move the wheels up a little bit or whatever else. Or would you have a uber detailed kit that, like the mobius um like if you're comparing the mobius uh 70 ford pickup truck to a reissue or ah the new tool round two 63 ford or 64 that they threw out there that's basically animals yeah just slaps together it's the you know you want ah an mccm you know build it for me you know
01:28:10
Torben Rothgeb
Or, you know, you have to actually put some thought into it to get, like you said, to ride height and all that stuff. Or you're thinking about, like, the 62 Pontiac was another kit that it came with the fuel line and fuel filter and the engine. It's fantastic kit. And that kind of stuff. It's very underrated.
01:28:27
Torben Rothgeb
yeah um Yeah. Or the separate chrome windshield wipers in the 65 Impala. You're thinking that they did the door handles and stuff like that. Which one would you rather have? i think for me, I'd only answer by saying I'd like to have both of them on my bench at the same time.
01:28:44
Torben Rothgeb
I like having one. That wasn't an option that he put out. Sorry. You're making your own rules. You're a rebel, I know. I know I am. But I like to have one kid on the bench that's more detailed. yeah And I like to have one kid on the bench that's fairly easy to build.
01:29:00
Torben Rothgeb
That's my my goal. yes well i mean yeah there's There's times when you just want to slap it together. palate cleanser. You want to have a whatever you want to call it. You're in ear in ah a funk or whatever and you don't know what to do. You you go and you grab a ah To me, 936. Right, right, yeah. like nice and it's Is Listen, please. The ghost whisper. Stick to what you know. It's got 20 parts. Right, and he's still got more stuff coming out. and so its There's more aftermarket decals. That's what you just told me. yeah, so I i personally, yeah, i I agree with you. I think it's, there's times when you want to just build it. and not have to think about it. Right. And there's plenty of choices. You know, I still go back to what you talked about when you said that um when you were down at Omaha and there was a guy there and he told you all he builds is to me, yeah, or Mobius or Mobius. And he was a contest builder. um I build for contests and that's, you want to have something that you can build that you don't to put a lot of thought into. it
01:30:10
Torben Rothgeb
You just have to focus on paint and and it makes a lot of sense. I mean, obviously there's limits because some of those cars are just not going to find anywhere else. I mean, you know, we're going to get this Comet slash Maverick at some point yeah and it'll be just like all the Mobius stuff.
01:30:30
Torben Rothgeb
It'll be really great. I mean, it's, um, you know, they don't screw around. It's just, they're probably not going to be around in 10 years. I just don't think, um, Dave's not going to be around and, uh,
01:30:43
Torben Rothgeb
you know I don't know what you know they're still planning on doing those pickups. The Chevy's. That'll probably put them in the ground right there because that's going to be a lot of work and there's not a lot of you can't swap parts like the Fords. You know you can't swap swap the you know the front end suspension and all that stuff. You've got to have its own it's own individual kit. so I think to deal with this question is you see things that are more detailed, Acro Miniatures only did two cars.
01:31:12
Torben Rothgeb
How many Grand Sports and how many McLaren M8s you see built? Yes. Not many. Not many. We have a thriving community here at Carville. I've seen two built.
01:31:24
Torben Rothgeb
okay Grand Sport, I think maybe maybe two, maybe three. Hugh built one. You got one done. I built one. Yours died and you know in the parking lot. Mine did. and you know But I mean, they weren't pleasant kits to build. yeah No. yeah they were like They were a challenge. And it's like the a team and the B team. My friend Dan Reed says this.
01:31:43
Torben Rothgeb
Accur Miniatures on their airplanes, they have the 18th airplane kits are gorgeous. But you know, according to Tim Boyd, he said some really smart people were in the Accur Miniature product. opening they were Well, all with the exception of Dave Van.
01:32:01
Torben Rothgeb
Dave Van, yeah. yeah yeah I mean, i think I think you're right. I think that um yeah Tom West, Bob Johnson, yeah no they had some big names that were working.
01:32:11
Torben Rothgeb
It's just I think there was a timing thing, and know, obviously with the NASCAR problems. yeah I just think that they bit off it could more than they could chew. exactly yeah um Probably too many chiefs, not enough Indians, um you know, whatever you want to say. me Because he didn't have a dinner they had a different team for the airplanes, right? Yep.
01:32:33
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. So that's that's that. That's that discussion. Right. Well, you know, i do looking back, it is really funny. If you look at the late 80s to late 90s, where it's really where the hobby, you know, I feel like when they came out with that was a 66 Nova. And that was looked at like the first... model kit that was just aimed at the adult builder. That was in the 80s, actually. Yeah, la eighty late 80s. Late 80s. And then... But people bitched about it anyway. Oh, well, they're always... No, they did. They always got hurt. Yeah, because the windshield had the rearview mirror in it, I think, was one of the... Not in the Nova. and On 66 Nova, the...
01:33:13
Torben Rothgeb
The emblems weren't crisp enough. They weren't pronounced. yeah So they basically put a coat of primer on and you couldn't see what it said. But yeah, no, you're right. There were kits where they had the windshield. Everybody's got to do this.
01:33:25
Torben Rothgeb
We're going make this better and easier to build. So we're going to put the windshield. The glass is actually going to be the mirror is going to be molded into the into the window. And it's like, what's the first thing you're going to do when you open the box? you're going to take that freaking piece of windshield and throw it across the room. And you're going to find an old AMT one. yeah Because that still has the regular glass in it.
01:33:48
Torben Rothgeb
So looking at the trajectory, then they really started to do more and more and more. It's like, oh, we're going to do super detailed. And that ended up with, um like on the NASCAR side, I can look at like 2001 Monte Carlo. where you know they had the ah you know the little things that go through the back window, ah the screw jack things, and they just threw the roof detail, right? ah But then...
01:34:15
Torben Rothgeb
And then you have your accurate miniatures that had all this stuff, the photo etch hood and just all this, all this detail, detail, detail. And then it got even for the adult builder that wasn't selling, you know, because it was, it was too hard. They found, they hit their ceiling of what's going to sell for business. You know, yeah. People will say they want all that detail, but in actuality, um,
01:34:40
Torben Rothgeb
you got to come back down. And I even look at then the NASCARs then within 2003, they just took their pre-painted kits and that was a regular kit, you know? And I remember Drew Highwater being super pissed off when they came out with the Dodge kit because that was like, went backwards. which He was really angry that it went backwards. Well, it Sterling Marlin and all the Bill Haley stock cars, Had the screw bottom and this a metal axles and they had gone back 20 years.
01:35:10
Torben Rothgeb
But they had decided, you know what, all this Uber detail is not necessarily leading to good business, right? It's not going sell. And was reminded that when that builder was complaining about the 65 Impala because was just like, wow, well, they were.
01:35:25
Torben Rothgeb
You know, so it is an interesting question. The 59 Cadillac, the 50 Ford pickup. Those are all gorgeous kits build. bunch of Impalas, the 60 Impala, the 59 Impala. I think there was like, to me, I would call it like a sweet spot where they were yeah everything they did was the same level of detail. And it was still fun to build. And it looked right and went together. Pretty well engineered.
01:35:51
Torben Rothgeb
Well-engineered, you had a couple engine choices and different things, and you could swap parts pretty, you know, you could kit bash. Or the pro-modeler ones, too. Right. one other Yeah, the pro-modeler ones, that was another thing. They dropped the ball with the Charger body right when they came out, and then even with the Dodge Charger Daytona.
01:36:10
Torben Rothgeb
parts because the race car parts were this the super super bird was very disappointing the wheels were so super crappy so yeah no i think i think there was a sweet spot though if you look at like you've built a 69 camaro right the revel one that one has you know it has a simplified um you know rear axle and And the the chassis is very simple.
01:36:32
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah. And it goes together like, you know. Really good. Well, like in no time flat. I mean, the time you have to spend is painting and cleaning up the parts. It's also subject matter, too. It's like, look at the really nice midget that came out quite a few years ago. I mean, that's three I'll build on. And it's a beautiful little kit to build. But it's fiddly. And it bombed. And it doesn't scream from the tables either. No, it doesn't. It's one of those things that you put out there. I mean, they put a trailer in it to try to make it, okay, this is going to be more interesting you put a trailer in it and said, well.
01:37:08
Torben Rothgeb
but yeah It didn't help it though. Didn't help it. No. And they did two versions too. Uh-huh. Well, and its it's funny because then it comes back to supply and demand. And you think, well, at one point that's going to be worth something. But I still don't see it go for a lot because it just didn't have the demand for You still see them out there. You don't see them that much anymore, though. I think they're pretty it's pretty much dried up.
01:37:27
Torben Rothgeb
But sadly, too, what's also dried up is the people that were interested in those cars, right? Well, right, exactly. it was offer It was an age group. you know it was um I remember the gentleman from um not Ed but it was his pet project yeah i really nice guy he was sick and you know he was doing some stuff on his own to try to get out there like the 50 old which is a great kit so I can't remember his name you know it bothers me but anyway um so yeah no I think yeah it's a good question it is a good question
01:38:12
Torben Rothgeb
I don't even know how to answer it, you know, because I like an easy kid for fun. think
3D Printing in Modeling
01:38:16
Torben Rothgeb
it depends on what your you know what strikes your fancy at the time. Right, exactly. So, sorry if i if it's, you know, yeah there's no no right answer, right right? What are these things back here? Is this the next question? This is, i so I did have ah part two in my 3D printing experience. Oh.
01:38:35
Torben Rothgeb
um yeah I went to 3D Colt. I downloaded stuff and put your credit card in, but it is a pretty ah minimal ah charge. so like For this, um I have seatbelt things um that you did, and it comes with ah the five different parts of the seatbelt. This is $5 for downloading the file. and Then I had to download ah the... ah so time Photon Workshop from AnyCube. I downloaded that file that. And then when you download the file, a cookie you have to save it. um
01:39:16
Torben Rothgeb
ah For some reason, um ah
01:39:21
Torben Rothgeb
they now they got me doing it because they kept mixing up the name... um her island harold haral or how harold howard Harold likes to ah save it from downloads into your documents and rename it. So then when you download the file, you put it in your documents, and then you have to move the documents to your Photon Workshop that you download. And then from that, you put it on your USB drive, save it to your USB drive. And then you plug that drive into your 3D printer.
01:39:57
Torben Rothgeb
And so I have the AnyCube Photon Mono 4 is what I have. And so you put that in there. Then you pour your resin into ah your little tray.
01:40:11
Torben Rothgeb
And then ah you find it on your files on the printer. You hit print. And then the thing comes down. And it prints it actually upside down on your thing.
01:40:23
Torben Rothgeb
It takes about an hour, and then we're ready to go. they looked yes um Well, hopefully with the combination of my 3D, my chrome pen and my thing, um it will be ah we'll we'll see okay see what it looks like. The one nice thing about the photo returns, even though they're a pain, but i mean you can you can handle them.
01:40:46
Torben Rothgeb
you know you can yeah but you can lose them though just oh yeah just as easy as you know you know what i the way i'm planning and um uh for those of you listening hopefully i will give a good enough description if you can picture the way things print out on a 3d part but i have these buckles and then um you know then also the harness if you think of the parts on a photo edge harness I'm planning on putting whatever material I'm using for the seatbelts, I'm planning on putting those through, well, painting it with the chrome pen first, then putting the actual seatbelt material through them, then cutting it off the sprue to put it on. Come again? Really? You don't think that will be possible?
01:41:35
Torben Rothgeb
I mean, let's say I have the tissue paper and then... Saran wrap? Not saran wrap. And then I'll just clip off the backside of it how it's printed on the 3D printer.
01:41:48
Torben Rothgeb
Okay. And then it's all ready to go. It's ready to go then. Glue it onto the Well, i'm I'm looking forward to seeing this. Yeah, okay. Yes. i was Unfortunately, I was hoping it would be a little bigger. But this is 120 feet. They're 120 feet. Like a tiny car. So i I was thinking about putting in my Lotus 49, but it's probably not big enough.
01:42:10
Torben Rothgeb
The nice thing about this, the nice thing about 3D printing, though, is you can, um you know, I'm looking at my my slicer. um on you know Once you get to it, you can ah either make it bigger or smaller on their scale. Yes. And I think this is one that you judge... So if you have a 125th part and if you do it um like 110, 120% make it a little bigger, then it's probably one of those trial and error scenes if it sizes out at 116th. I'm sure probably somebody has some kind of logarithm or some kind of equation to make it up to 120th or 116th. Or you could just download 120th thing. But
01:43:01
Torben Rothgeb
um So you can make those adjustments ah before you slice it and you know print it. see both in mine but So anyway, that was my latest in the printer. It's a process. all right it is And one of the harder things for me is I bought this new, because I didn't have enough storage on my Chromebook that we do our wonderful podcast on. But I bought an HP because they're a lot cheaper than the Apple's. um But My work computer has been an Apple for the last 25 years. you bought it So part of it. Yes, I bought an HP laptop.
01:43:37
Torben Rothgeb
So um going back to Microsoft, because it's been about 25 years since I've done stuff on Microsoft. you use that specifically for your 3D printing, Yes. Yep, yep, 3D printing. He's all in. I am all in. I am all in. It's too late to turn back now. It's too late. I also have a NASCAR trophy that looks really cool, a 125th.
01:43:59
Torben Rothgeb
but nascar championship trophy uh that i'm gonna try print oh and then what you have to do i need to get a uv light uh because the parts are still a little soft after they print so you have to put them under a light really good right yeah well you got to clean the tray too it's funny you know it's so spooky with ai though i'm looking through my facebook feed and um They're trying to get this stuff that you can use instead of the rubbing alcohol to clean it with. I can't remember the name of it, but it's this big bottle of stuff because you have to wash.
01:44:36
Torben Rothgeb
ah It's like Rhino or some kind of stuff, but it's okay they're marketing for cleaning up your printer. Rhino Wash? Something like that. Yeah, something like that. It's a purple, I think. and It's not the Castro Superclane, but anyway, but it's just kind of spooky how all of a sudden I have this 3D printing stuff coming on my Facebook feed. Well, that's what happens. Oh, really? People trying to buy it from you?
01:45:00
Torben Rothgeb
Not buy it from me. They're trying to get it for free. Because this is a file that's on 3D Colt where they have all these files. If you ever want to burn some time, go on Colt and look at all the stuff you can print off.
01:45:15
Torben Rothgeb
you know like That's what he's doing right now. Yes. ah So that's that's my 3D. It's a long process. sleep. Yeah.
01:45:27
Torben Rothgeb
All right, so we are just about getting to the end of a great show. So we have to do our... Super six. Super six. All right. Super six. what Memorable things from 2025. Most memorable parts of 2025?
01:45:48
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. In the model world? i mean Yes. Yep, yep. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. think I'd rather watch YouTube videos. I was just kidding. Stop. Well,
01:46:04
Torben Rothgeb
well I mean, you want to talk about like shows or yeah what was your favorite? Memorable anything. Memorable. ah Yes. Memorable anything. um ah Memorable parts of the year. 300. We've almost gone days. wow It's all such a blu Well,
01:46:25
Torben Rothgeb
i gotta turn this suffering okay come on come on give me something okay well i would say clearly the nnl north is always a great is always a great uh time um nordicon says again the show is here i think i think nordicon was a was a memorable moment because it did really well and it was a big success it it basically ran itself which is what we've always wanted so i think um That would be a memorable moment. yeah The Detroit
Yearly Reflection and Future Planning
01:46:54
Torben Rothgeb
show the whole weekend. The trip was was a blast. Very memorable. every yeah Very memorable. Yep.
01:47:00
Torben Rothgeb
Hanging out with Tim Boyd. That was really fun. Yes. Yeah, having Detroit-style pizza. The funny thing was his wife did You screwed it up, Bob. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Because if you just would have gone to Buddy's Pizza and ordered one of their pizzas. He's still there. He still won't let that go. Well, you're complaining about Detroit pizza, but you had the gluten-free I did have gluten-free. You had some kind of stuff like that. had whole wheat crust. There it is right there.
01:47:30
Torben Rothgeb
Detroit is not. That's like going to a seafood place and ordering pasta or something. That's not what they do. think you guys just need to put on the gloves and fight to the finish. If you would have had the Detroit style pizza the way it's supposed to be, it would have melted in your guess it was memorable, but not in a good way. I know you were really sick. I remember that.
01:47:55
Torben Rothgeb
I was really sick. Yeah, holy hell, I got sick too. yeah I took two to two, three days off of work. Here I was thinking, like, should I take a day off and I can play with all my new toys that I get in Detroit? But no, I was like, I got, there's no way I can work today. yeah So yeah, we we were sick.
01:48:14
Torben Rothgeb
That was memorable. ah John drove, true champion. drive He did. and And I think, you know, not to be morose, but the memorable experience. passing of Don Stauffer, one of our great guys in the club. big deal That was a big deal. And died of natural causes, not from you guys running him over. He fell in the driveway. Go back up! Go back up! So, ah yes. I was finally able to join back up with MSM, even though had to wait for a month or two. God, you're never going to let this go. Was this the first year for MCCM also?
01:48:46
Torben Rothgeb
Yes, we've always seen your back. i mean And it feels so good. I think that's what Bob Hood was when you came up there. No, I wasn't. He's like, oh my gosh. The prodigal son returns. The prodigal son. Runs out to greet the prodigal. The swap month was a highlight. That was a great one. Wasn't that the fight?
01:49:09
Torben Rothgeb
Incident? or that i was That was the one before. Posable Paul. We haven't seen since then. You said that to me. do not appreciate that. It was a fun year. We're professionals. It was fun year. It was a great year. And the podcasts have been really fun. But yes. Kudos to you, Trevor. Who would have thought we made it to episode 15? It's been two years now. We're trying to work on sweat. I think it's three years, isn't it? What?
01:49:37
Torben Rothgeb
I feel like the first year we did it, it was over a winter break, too. I feel I was close. You should be able to look it up. Yeah, you listen to episode one or two I'm sure there's some Uber fans that could probably tell you how many episodes. We'll they have to ask ah Randy, which we don't want to forget our our sponsors. Sponsors go Randy, baby. Don't we have two now? Olivia's dog sitting. Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:50:00
Torben Rothgeb
And pretty soon she'll be out of chiropractic school or whatever else it do a uh what do they do it when they readjust you readjust your back get to get to work inside because you know you can't be working at the bench with ah a sore back right so and we have your proclamation we have to keep an eye on there's no new kit that's right no read my lips i'll be watching you watch you'll go to the dungeon tomorrow and he'll be Well, I only have three days to buy stuff, right? If if I'm going all of 2026 without buying stuff. Because we're going to to the next Tuesday. It's like the guy going on a bender on his way to rehab. January 1st. We have to watch him now. I'll watching. It'll be easy. I know. he'll If we go into the dungeon and he's already paying Bruce, you know, with cash.
01:50:57
Torben Rothgeb
um Wait a minute. It's just the first of the year, Torben. You're right. We do need a maybe a stipulation. If I come across something for such an unbelievable price that it is 50% off of what the going rate is. A $15 J car. Yes. Something like that. You'd be too dumb if you couldn't pass it. I'd be stupid not to buy this. Yeah, I understand.
01:51:22
Torben Rothgeb
Or something that is so rare there's... I understand that. Yeah, sure. Could not, you know... I understand. Yeah, yeah if you if you got another... What was that kit that you just finished that that was a um MCCM bargain?
01:51:39
Torben Rothgeb
Well, other than the 67 Chevy, the Kevorkian kit that you sold me. No, no. this is the one you got at... It was at the MCCM swap.
01:51:51
Torben Rothgeb
Oh, the Javelin. The Javelin. That's what I thought. That's what I was going to say. It wasn't the Javelin. It was a Donahue. For $10 or $20. Yeah. Well, it's almost finished. It's well on its way. Right. Good deal. Yes. So, I mean, how many kits do you have to finish if you're not going to buy anything?
01:52:08
Torben Rothgeb
Well, let's start with that. Mark Donnie, you won. The Fireball Roberts one. got my White Elephants, the Lotus 49. You've got the Marty Robbins. You're not going open the box. I'm not going open that one. But I got, well, my good buddy talking about shows in Milwaukee, Janikowski. Christian Janikowski. Glenn, yeah. Glenn. Glenn. I got a bill. Yes. Yeah. Well, he, you know, he is once you get to talking. He's saddled up to you. If he can talk NASCAR, you know. he can talk NASCAR. No. But.
01:52:43
Torben Rothgeb
Well, you know, he goes camping too. He missed one show because he was camping with son. So if you have that in common, Boundary Waters camping trip or something. I feel for anyhow, I have the Chase Elliott Kelly Bluebit car. you'll have that time in minutes. It's painted. Well, it's painted and cleared.
01:53:01
Torben Rothgeb
ah Bruce Larson ah Vega. Yeah. Pro stock You'll have to build another truck for the other car. Well, no, I'm going to put it on a trailer. one of those You sold me that box of trailers.
01:53:11
Torben Rothgeb
I might have to find some more. other run yeah king a good ride Good one. It just He's going to finish the song.
01:53:23
Torben Rothgeb
destiny he can't stop now he's going to finish the song And then going to have the big one right on the floor. And stay tuned, folks, because we do have an outro song. Okay. We came across an outro song. We're all just baiting breath.
01:53:41
Torben Rothgeb
yeah But wait, there's more. I got two Chargers with the Charger 500. The Charger Challenge, basically. Yep, the Charger 500. So yeah so we should we should talk about that because we have challenges, don't we, for next for this year coming up?
01:53:57
Torben Rothgeb
Yeah, we we already did talk about it. We talked about the Charger. I'm trying to do the Charlie Glotz back. What about the themes for the haunt? Well, iconic livery. That's going to be a tongue twister for some people because they're going to struggle with, well, it's an icon in my house.
01:54:15
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. yeah Karen Allen, she's an icon. I'm afraid of her. i went Right? Yes. I'm definitely afraid of her. I have to put the big wheels and tires on those models. and She makes me do it. for ah Jim Allen, one of our very fantastic builders and great people.
01:54:37
Torben Rothgeb
ah Who are you talking about now? Jim Allen. And your Faribault Roberts 43rd? ah Yes, I got a plenty of 43rds. I got the Petty car that you built. I got a Petty Talladega starter kit that's built. I got the... um Way too big to be a Ford Fairlane Mario Andretti starter kit. speak Speaking of starter kits, there's someone in the club that might actually build one this year.
01:55:04
Torben Rothgeb
Yes, Charger Daytona, Bob Halliday. That's not what I was thinking about. He's eyeballing that Charger, the
Conclusion and Gratitude
01:55:12
Torben Rothgeb
Daytona Coupe. Yeah, Daytona Coupe. No. Papa. Papa's going to do Bob Halliday. The ah Ford. Mm-hmm.
01:55:22
Torben Rothgeb
not Not of Talladega. No. the big test The one you Yeah. yes So he'll probably be asking grab some questions. No, he already has been asking questions.
01:55:33
Torben Rothgeb
Right. yeah what did the de What are the decals like? It's like, they're crap. I know. I'm building a lot of them. yeah He wanted it for the AMT box. Yes. That's what he wanted for. He said, you know what? You could sell the...
01:55:49
Torben Rothgeb
The starter kit. Right. And just keep the box. Right. Well, mean, if he wants to build a White Elf and has to build a Daytona. That's it. That's what I did. That's why I did it.
01:56:00
Torben Rothgeb
So anyway, we'll see. Yep. Well, and then I got my other Charger Daytona. Are we up to like a dozen things? Yes. That's what we're looking for. got plenty of stuff to keep me busy. Plenty of stuff to No buying. No more starting new kits. No more starting new kits. When get the Lotus 38, no starting that. You have to just leave it on the table. Just leave it on the table. I've already bought it. Let Bob build it. You can build the one that you've painted.
01:56:25
Torben Rothgeb
Yes. The Lotus 49. Yep. Yep. We can be Vaughn. It's okay. Yes. Yes. We'll see. We'll see how long I get to that. Well, if I were to somehow get all of these done, all my stall projects. If you were Richard-man. Yes. you start a kids to have again?
01:56:53
Torben Rothgeb
sporty maybe I have all of the Winston Cup champion ones other than they never did the 66 Charger. um but And I don't have the Ned Jarrett 65 Ford. But I have all of those up to 95. I just built the Gordon car this year. but yeah Didn't Eric do the 65 Jerk? did. Who would have thought that it would end being the one...
01:57:21
Torben Rothgeb
um of I don't like to buy built kits, but I might. if If I ever get to the day that I've built all of the starter Winston Cup champions. You'll be dead. but but i mean years I probably will. I more than likely probably will. well mean But I'm eating a lot of superfoods. I've been eating blueberries and sweet potatoes and stuff like that. it? Well, I'm all a Twitter and all a quiver to see the, as we say our goodbyes. To the year. What's the out song? The outro. All right. Well, yes. Good night, Torben. Good night, James. Yes. Good night, wherever you are. Sweet Matilda. Yeah.
01:58:01
Torben Rothgeb
All right. Hold on. I'm still looking for it. That's what it is. All right. Here we go. Here we go. It took us 15 episodes, but we do have an outro. And many hours. I hope the volume is all right because you know we're totally winging it. I have no technology skills here. All right,
01:58:23
Torben Rothgeb
guys. Have a great 2026. And we will see you with episode 16 very, very soon. So happy holidays.
01:58:35
Torben Rothgeb
See you. Happy New Year. See you next week. Yeah. Well, don't know about that. It's good 2026. Yes. And the resolution's gone, right? Sorry.
01:58:47
Torben Rothgeb
Alright guys, well thank you. Take care.