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103. Tiny Butt Man Fancies Companion-Ship
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Introducing Tiny Butt Man; a man with a tiny butt. Tiny Butt Man and friends review director Sean Baker’s Oscar nominated movie Anora (2024), season 1 of the Star Wars Andor series, and director Drew Hancock’s horror/comedy flick, Companion (2025). Additionally, the team analyzes what streaming juggernaut Netflix has in-store for us in 2025; while examining Netflix’s successes post-Covid. The co-hosts also jump into the Butt-Time-Machine and gush about their favourite Netflix original content from days-gone-by. Plus, they discuss the trailers for both Jurassic World Rebirth and Fantastic Four: First Steps; while also asking the question, ‘is actor Chris Evans truly retired from the MCU?’ Other discussion topics include Netflix’s Emilia Perez (2024), James Gunn’s Creature Commandos, Crave’s poor content maintenance, theatre chain Cineplex’s ridiculous booking fee shenanigans, and a horrifying movie theatre scenario involving very dry, sockless feet. Check us out at the same butt-time, same butt-place, every two weeks on Tuesdays for new episodes.
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Film Reviews and Trailers
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This week, we review director Drew Hancock's new horror comedy flick, Companion, and director Sean Baker's Oscar-nominated film, Anora. We analyze the outlook for streaming giant Netflix in 2025 and we break down the greatest trailers to ever release in the history of the universe, ever, ever, according to Tiny Buttman, ever, between the timeline of ah February 4th and 5th of 2025, ever.
Podcast Introduction
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My name is Simon Edie. And I'm Adrian Pinter. Welcome to Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. I'm an extra from Anora, episode 103. Why is he trailing off?
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Okay. Did he fall down a well?
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103. I don't think that's punchy enough. Welcome to Split Focus, a film and TV podcast, episode 103.
Banter and Personal Updates
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to be at audience Adrian Pinter, it is time. It is time for episode 103, I believe. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Okay. You look like you're, you can't hear me. You were just a little bit quiet. I feel like my- Oh, I'm so sorry. No, it's it's okay. It's not like we just spent time testing this before we started to record the podcast, you know? Yeah, yeah, no, yeah.
00:01:52
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But yeah. No, no, you're you're right. You were just a little quiet and then like my reverb thing where I hear myself is loud. And I don't think it was like that big of a difference last time Oh, but you just told me priors that you reduced your volume I did so it makes sense. It makes sense. I'm just louder in my own head. Okay. Okay. Well, that's nice I'm sure this is a real interesting Conversation good way to start man for people listening to the podcast, but how is your last two weeks? This is a podcast that happens every two weeks on Tuesdays specifically so
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I mean, you've got, you've had two weeks to to do stuff, to enjoy yourself, to, uh, do fun things potentially. Oh, I was enjoying myself. Oh, I hope so. Why'd you say that so weird and ominously? Come on. Hey. Yeah. Okay. Well, yeah, no, no, no, my last two weeks we're were're good, man. I've been doing a lot of packing. I'm um ah mostly packed up.
00:02:52
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I'm getting packed. so the the We're getting keys on Monday, so the day before this podcast goes live. and then um yeah it's It's going to be an exciting time, man. I'm i'm very excited. I'm going to do the actual moving on the Thursday. I think we we touched on this last time. yeah Yeah, you're almost a homeowner. It's incredible. It's exciting.
00:03:14
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I went to the lawyer's office today and gave them the checks, so now it's official. Oh, wow. They have to cash? Even crazier. Pretty crazy. Step by step. That's a lot of work. oh we We watched a movie together. You and your fiance were there. and Yeah.
00:03:30
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we As we do, we leave the movie theater stand outside and one of us begins a conversation and then we realize we're cold and we walk back inside the movie theater. yeah like The Canadian cold, it was quite cold. I think it was like negative 11 and we have were having a full on really in deep conversation about life and adulthood and buying a house and what that all means.
00:03:52
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It's not the best time to have a conversation. Considering we came outside from the warmth of the theater lobby, which we could have just stood inside and and talked inside, which would have been yeah more efficient. but ah Definitely. No, dude, it would have been significantly more efficient. but yeah yeah so you know I've entered to you about the the trials and tribulations that I had to go through ah for the for the the final moments of getting the home and stuff. but Hey man, finish lines there, finish lines there, we're excited. what What's new with you, man? What's new with you? you tell me You tell me what's up. Honestly, not much is new. i just i This was a very busy week and everything felt compact. I bought Kingdom Come Deliverance, the the video game. Kingdom kingdom Come Deliverance 2, which came out on February 4th.
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for PS5 and PC and various other platforms. And so I purchased that game and then I'd never played it. I just never played it. I just couldn't. I had no time. And so I've just been like really working hard, I guess, or I don't know. yeah I was just I literally drove I drove home.
00:04:55
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And then I had to drive back to the store I was working at. I was doing a presentation at a retail store and i had to I had to drive all the way back because I left my bag there like an idiot. I felt so stupid. It's just that that's such a waste of time. It was a 45 minute drive. I drive had to drive all the way back to that store to make sure I had my bag for for Monday. Anyway, it was not it's not ideal. This was not a great day.
Humans vs. Machines
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but um Yeah, now we're recording we usually record this on Saturdays or Sundays we're recording it on Friday So it's all everything I'm doing is all compact in a tight tight space, which is okay. It's okay Yeah, maybe I'll have a ah relaxing weekend theoretically. Actually. No, I won't now I'm just thinking about all the things I have to do it is what it is it is what it is, but What separates man from machine Adrian is that machines cannot think for themselves? Also, they're made of metal whereas man is made of skin Oh, yeah, that's really good. yeah Why do I know that reference? Oh, wait, you don't. oh I thought you take a guess. Where is that from? I don't know. Like, is that on? Is it? I actually don't know. I want to say instinctively high on life, but I don't know. That's correct. Oh, no. That's a rickinism, Adrian. Rick.
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Rickon is him. Oh, oh, my God. Yeah. From severance. My apologies. Yeah. Yeah. That's my one of my favorite lines in season one. And it's it catches you so off guard because of the way it's edited. This is like Rickon for the audience but members who don't know, although you should go and watch Apple TV plus severance because it's excellent.
00:06:37
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Um, especially the first season. I don't know how the second season is going to turn out. I'm like, this is an interesting season. I'm liking it, but I'm curious like what's going to happen here. Yeah. I haven't watched episode four yet. I don't watch today's episode. Episode four is something else. I must say is very interesting. I, uh, I mean, I don't want to spoil anything. So don't surprise you to haven't seen it. I just watched it over dinner. I wasn't like me. Me and my fiance watch the show together.
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And we we haven't really been together much today other than lawyer's office stuff, like adult stuff. And she's having a girls' night right now with her old old coworkers. cool so We're having a boys' night, baby, me and you popping bottles, you know? Getting sure and getting crazy, boys' night, Simon and Adrian boys' night. Yeah, yeah ah yeah i' i've i've yet to um I've yet to watch yeah watch it. I watch it tomorrow, most likely. and I do have things to do tomorrow.
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Episode four is is shocking in many ways. i'm I'm just curious where they're going to go with it by the end of the season. I felt like I had more trust in Dan Erickson and Ben Stiller in season one, like the creator and the director. I feel like I was I don't know. I'm not sure where they're going to go with this. is It's strange. It's been three years almost since they yeah obviously the season one premiered I'm just curious what they can do to end this season and where where they will even go in a third season. I was reading recently that Dan Erickson said that he he's planned out he knows what the ending would be like and in the show, which is a great sign, by the way, for any TV series, I must say. When you have anything, a movie series or a TV series that the creator doesn't seem to know where things are going, JJ Abrams.
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ja Yeah, JJ Abrams and Star Wars is a great example. Lost actually fell into this trap because they were kind of forced to continue their series past the season three that they had planned. Yeah. But anyway, um correct me if I'm wrong, though, but doesn't Vince Gilligan not necessarily know where a story is going to go? He just writes and lets the story take him.
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Does he do it completely though or does he have an idea? I think the having yeah i read that too. I'm not sure. That's a great question. that maybe yeah I don't know. Vince Gilligan, the creator of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul for those uninitiated. This has so far been many tangents. Let me get back to the Rickonisms. Anyway, Rickon writes a book in the in the show Severance. He's the brother-in-law to to Adam Scott's character, the main character of the of the series. And he's a quirky guy. He's a quirky guy and he's very entertaining.
Cineplex App Improvements
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He's a funny that that is some of the best comedy in that show, I find. I agree. some But there's there's one mo one moment where I don't know if somebody's reading the book or whatever, but they they're imagining Rickon speaking the lines in the book. And in the way that that line I just delivered. Was delivered.
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by Rickon and then the way it's edited inside that delivery is great. It's just, it's great. It's great. It's good. Anyway, great show. I love it. Great show. You spoke of the the movie we went to go see. I just want to talk about something about the Cineplex because we were standing outside the Cineplex. I feel like it's a good, thats ah this is a good tangent. I feel like to go on.
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I bought the tickets this time. um You were very generous. You've been buying the tickets for the last few movies we've seen. And we usually trade off. I buy tickets, you buy tickets, and we kind of go from there. I just haven't buy bought tickets in a while. I don't know. We just haven't seen as many movies, I guess, together. But where are those of that? I bought the tickets. Cineplex.
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I didn't think I knew this. First of all, the app is great. I think this is the best iteration of the Cineplex app and the overall purchasing experience that I've ever seen from Cineplex, which is our big theater chain in Canada. I think that they've just done a great job. I think it's awesome. I think the app is, it's it's just a great user interface. The way things are animated is great. It seems to work really well. I used to complain about Cineplex all the time. That was a a joke. I think with me and my brother even, we used to joke about how hard it was to purchase tickets online.
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Here's the deal. They advertised for years that you need to buy tickets online. It's so good. It's great. Buy tickets online, they said. But now, Adrian, we talked about this on the podcast I think previously in the first 100 episodes, but I don't know if I noticed this thing. There's a $0 booking fee if you go into the theater and buy a ticket.
00:11:20
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hu But they convinced everyone and had an advertisement in the beginning of every movie that they ever launched in these theaters that you should buy tickets online. And there was no booking fee online before and there was no booking fee in store either.
00:11:37
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But I thought the idea was so that they can have less employees. Like they were trying to make sure that they cut their employees. But they're basically just making it so that there's a $1.50 booking fee for every person you buy a ticket for. Every ticket you buy, there's a $1.50 booking fee. But not if you go inside the store and buy it.
00:11:56
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That makes no sense. Are you not a Cineclub member? Because they wave it if you're a Cineclub member. I know. Look, I'm talking for the common man, Adrian. Oh, for the common man. For those that aren't as high class as us that have the Cineclub membership. Cineclub is a great deal. I'm not trying to promote Cineclub here, OK? $10 a month. Because I feel like this is a dastardly scheme. This is some kind of hoodwinking, some kind of swindler situation here. Yes, swindler's list.
00:12:24
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I don't know if that reference works, but hey. Oh, actually speaking of swindlers list, this is a really bad segue, but, um, you made it. I don't know if it was because of the joke you made about like Ken's corner last week.
00:12:39
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Yeah. That's a really bad segue, as you can tell from that. yeah i Anyway, who if you want to know what the joke was, go back and listen to episode 102 of Split Focus, if film a film and TV podcast. But anyways, Ken's Corner was going to be a segment that I thought would happen weekly because Kenneth Stadelbauer had written into almost every episode of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. Guests who didn't write in this week after we asked them questions. Your brother. To be fair.
00:13:04
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Oh, sorry, Ken. No, sorry. Sorry, Ken. Ken, would you say your brother? You might. No, no. He also didn't write in. No one wrote in because there's no writing segment of the show. But I made a segment for Ken because I thought it would be cool. But then we asked him specific questions on episode one or two and never wrote it in again. Anyway, I thought that was. Oh, no, he wrote in. um I'll take it away.
00:13:27
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Hey, it's it's Ken over here. Oh, I don't know the answer. I don't remember the question. So ah ask it again. I'll write it next week. write Ask it again and I'll write it next week. This is Ken. See you later. Yeah, I just I just played that off my phone. Ken recorded that for us. Ken is an interesting accent that I don't recall and it doesn't sound Canadian in any capacity. But anyway, maybe I don't remember what Ken sounds like. He opened a bodega.
00:13:57
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i was I was hoping to evolve the segment. I got to be honest with you, but now that Ken's not listening to the podcast, I can just say it freely. I was hoping to evolve the the segment. I was hoping that I could have him record his voice on his phone and send it in and I could intersplice it and we could listen to it together live.
00:14:13
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Yeah, like he just did mere moments ago. Yeah, that was Ken, right? That that's it. Wait, that wasn't that your Christopher Walken impression? I'm so sorry. No, no, no, no. I think for one, I don't know why Ken's voice sounds like my Christopher Walken impression. Very different. But my my crystalpher your Christopher No, you're Christopher Walken impression. Actually, that sounds that but actually Ken's voice that you just did there sounds more like Christopher Walken. I did there. But yeah, yeah, yeah it was the recording. It was her course happening. But yeah. Yeah. Hey, it's Christopher Walken closet here. Yeah. Great stuff. Yeah. Excellent. All right. Let's move on. Severance here. Walken. Right.
00:15:02
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Yes, indeed. Anyway, what do you do you have any thoughts on the Cineplex thing? do you Did you tell me that? yeah Do you have any? um So selfishly, it doesn't impact me, so I don't care about it. However, um you know, if if I was, you know, just a regular old person, just a regular person without the Cineclub membership, yeah, the the dollar 50 fees, that's preposterous. It's it's stupid. It's silly. Because, yeah, and you're you're telling people Again, you you're not wrong. they They did a big push, order online, yada, yada, yada. It's more convenient. But now it's like, oh, just because it's convenient, you got to pay $1.50 extra. i i like we like I have friends that don't buy tickets online. They they walk into the Cineplex, go to the concession, buy popcorn, and then buy their ticket there. And I haven't done that now in a decade, dude. I straight up have not done that in probably a decade.
00:15:57
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I cannot remember the last time I've done something like that. But yeah, like it it makes sense. it is It is absolutely preposterous that they do that. But at the end of the day, you know if you are going to the movies a decent amount, definitely get Cineclub. Just do it. $10 a month, one free ticket. You get a discounted ticket, um I think two a month or something like that. yeah You get 20% off concessions, Simon. No online booking fee, Simon.
00:16:27
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That's the garbage though. The online booking fee is just an added extra thing because they they made Cineclub. I don't know. i yeah That's why I don't buy it. It's subtraction by addition. Sorry to go back to that. I just felt like I didn't get a legitimate response from you, but the the thing I was talking about, Ken, was You made a joke about,
Ken's Corner and Listener Interactions
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ah about the name of the segment and then now Ken hasn't responded. And I was trying to blame you actually. I don't know if you noticed that, but you also didn't respond to that. So I think it was your joke that turned him off because I think Ken was like, what the heck? You're going to name my, my segment after some kind of Nazis basically is what you did. I don't know. I'm not sure. Yes. What Ken's corner. You added it. You said, should it be three K's and make it Ken's cool corner? ho ho Yeah.
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Yeah. I'm very confused as to what 3K's means. I'll be honest with you. No. I'm no'm not familiar with any of that stuff. You're laughing right now. I see your smile. i I don't look at the news anymore. Yeah, okay. the newslet What does that have to do with the news? It's like you never read a history book. I i don't even know what history is, unfortunately.
00:17:34
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Yeah, that explains a lot. All right, well, let's get into a few quick bites of film and TV industry news, Adrian. Let's start with, actually, they're all going to be fun ones. I was going to say, let's start with a fun one. This is a really fun one,
Fantastic Four Trailer Analysis
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I think. The Fantastic Force First Steps trailer aired on February 4th. What did you think of that? well Good, I didn't even notice that. Good for you. Yeah. February 4th, Fantastic Four? Yeah, dude. f four f four it's f four february fourth Wow. Wow, I literally didn't notice that. Did you read that somewhere or you just made the connection and I'm just stupid? I literally just made the connection just now.
00:18:18
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Oh, OK. Yeah, I don't read that. I don't know how to read, dude. i I guess I did, too, because you gave me the four, the four. You gave me a little four fingers up on the screen because we're doing this video. But yeah, OK. Cool, man. What did you think of the trailer? I thought it was pretty all right. You know, like it's it's I like the tone. um Again, I like the actors. i'm I'm curious where it's going to go. It's interesting because it doesn't feel like a um an origin story, right? Like I feel, we talked about the, you know, it's just Iron Man, like the the typical MCU origin story. It's a safe bet, consistently, you know, good movies when that when they follow that formula. And this one, I mean, they're already fantastic for and about, right? It's it's a few years later. It seems like they'll probably have some flashbacks.
00:19:07
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about how they they they can you tell that from the trailer. I feel like it could just be linear and the trailer is a linear. We don't know, do we? You think it they would show it like that? I don't know. Maybe and you might be right. To be fair, there's some interesting things in the trailer. It's intriguing because it it seems to go back in time, but then it seems to go forward. And there's like time jumps. There seems to be different time periods shown, at least in the production and costume design. So that's yeah, I don't know.
00:19:36
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Actually, I'm going to pull it up right now while I talk to you. And so I can kind of get get some even more perspective. But yeah I don't know. Yeah, that's a good point. I guess they could have been already fantastic foring about. Yeah. Whatever that means. Because isn't there a kid doesn't. Sue Storm, like how have have however her like sun with her or some shit like that, do I imagine that in the trailer? Yeah. Am I crazy?
00:20:03
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I swear to God, she had like a kid with her. maybe Maybe I'm misremembering. I don't know. But they even do like a, like, oh, yeah. When, when, when the thing was in a rock, they say that not verbatim. Oh, sorry. I'm playing that. um We just got copyright struck. We're dead. Yeah. They played that little, that tiny little audio. Yeah. that's That little sonic signature. That's going to copyright strike us. so Yeah. Maybe I'm wrong about the time jobs now. i'm Maybe I imagine it. Yeah. He's spaghetti off his finger or something. There's a robot, roboting about with him. Wait, there's a shot of New York City. It looks like it's modern New York City. Yeah. And then they're like, oh, remember when we all got the powers? That was back then when the thing wasn't rocks. That was back then when Johnny couldn't get on fire. They talk about that. Huh.
00:20:54
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Yeah, there's also John Malkovich in some role that I'm not aware of. He's just he's like he's getting out of the shadows and he looks old to show Malkovich about. Maybe there wasn't a kid. What did I think? I don't see a kid. Yeah, that is. There's no kid. I just zip these up through it. I swear to God. The cast is great. We knew about the cast, obviously, for a while, but it looks awesome. Like it's a great cast. Pedro Pascal, Vanessa Kirby, the dude from Stranger Things, Joseph Quinn.
00:21:21
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Joseph Quinn, thank you very much. And Eben Maas, back rack. That's a great from the old, the bear and other things. who I see that smile. I know what you want indeed. I know what you watched all right cool, okay? Well, we'll get it again. We're gonna get there soon Let's skip the rest of the news you want to just dive into it, baby You want to just dive into it right away? No no but wait wait wait so fantastic for trailer yay or nay was it does it is it in doesn't entice you are you super excited cuz it to me this is gonna be the thing that's the jumping off point for the rest of this
00:21:55
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Phase for Marvel. It's really to me. This is where it's going to really kick off into high gear to gear up for Avengers Doomsday. This is kind of I think I think. I think honestly, Captain Falcon, um Captain Captain Falcon Brave New World. That's the name of it. and The movie is Captain Falcon Brave New Nest. Right.
00:22:22
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but Captain Falcon bravely leaves the nest. yeah Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, but no, that movie is going to be, I think is a really good, it could be the spark that kind of lights the flame that. That Johnny flame. It lights the Johnny flame. It's the light. night the the The Joseph. Joseph Quinn, Johnny johnny Flame. So yeah, it he could be that could be the case. But I feel like they need momentum. And I don't think they're going into this with a lot of momentum because Deadpool and Wolverine was so long ago. They're just so used to launching so many movies back to back to back in one year. Three movies, it seems like a normal Marvel Cinematic Universe tendency. And yet, last year was one movie and that's it.
MCU Future Speculations
00:23:04
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And then Agatha All Along, which was a great show, but I don't think everyone watched that.
00:23:07
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I think a lot of people watched Deadpool and Wolverine. So that was hyped up. But that kind of doesn't it felt very disjointed from the rest of the MCU. It felt like another Fox. It kind of felt like another Fox Deadpool movie in a way. Like there's not just connections, but they don't seem to relate to like, like pushing the rest of the universe forward, if that makes sense. Yeah, I feel like Deadpool and Wolverine's closest tie into the MCU was the Loki TV show.
00:23:35
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Arguably, like I feel like that that's kind of the the the most. Yeah, but Loki that Loki TV show isn't really tied into the MCU. It feels very disjointed. Did you finish season season two of Loki? I can't. No, no, we talked about that. I didn't finish it. Like if you you didn't do is amazing. It's great. I just don't I don't feel like it yeah actually I feel like it asks more questions than it answers in a weird way. It tries to answer questions about the actual plot line of Loki, but it doesn't answer questions about the MCU if that makes any sense.
00:24:04
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And I feel like because obviously the TVA is in Deadpool and Wolverine. The, the time variance authority, as they say, I don't, I don't think that we got a lot of answers about the TVA. Like we we didn't get anything extra. We kind of just got more questions. Is Wolverine going to be in the MCU? We don't really know. How is Deadpool connected? Is this the same sacred timeline? We don't really know that type of thing. I feel like those answers weren't given to us necessarily, but I don't know. Those aren't spoilers, right?
00:24:37
Speaker
No, I don't think so. I feel like the TVA was in the trailers. You need to know so because otherwise I got to cut it out. and No, we're good. Probably maybe. Yeah, he's in the trailer. We don't know a lot. There's not a lot that that answers questions about the MCU. That's not much of a that's not a sport. If it's a spoiler, I take it out. I have to. I'm very strict on this. There's no spoiler. It's an anti spoiler. Yeah. What is that even because you're saying it doesn't solve much.
00:25:04
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There's a lot in it though. There's a lot of content. The movie's worth watching. It's it's actually kind of what Kevin Feige talks about when he talks about how these movies should stand on their own. They should be great on their own. That's that's kind of what it does, which is great. And it it feeds from the MCU, but I don't feel think it feeds as much to it is my kind of my thing. It does feed to it. It just doesn't feed as much to it as ah as like a, I don't know, Doctor Strange movie.
00:25:29
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I don't even know if Multiverse of Madness really does that. but I was just going to say, i'm like I feel like Multiverse of Madness didn't do much at all, actually. It also asks a lot of questions that don't get answered, especially in the end credit scene. I don't know what they're doing with these end credit scenes. Well, I got an eye. I got an eye on my forehead. But that eye doesn't matter because we just did another end credit scene without the eye.
00:25:50
Speaker
Okay, again, careful in the spoilers. Is that a spoiler? It's just an eye. It's just an eye on a forehead, dude. Yeah, you're right. That'll actually probably get spoiled in another movie, in in the trailer. So that's not a spoiler. Okay, we gotta be careful. We gotta be more careful. I am promising that we're not spoiling this. We're not spoiling anything. The MCU is so weird and broad, it's like hard to not kinda touch on the little details that... I think what you said is more of a spoiler than what I said earlier. That's all I'm gonna say.
00:26:17
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Don't don't give me that face. Don't give me that look. Don't give me those little squinty eyes. Don't do that to me anyway. the Oh my God. Oh my God. That's the racist to you. How is that racist? Because you know I'm Asian. just You're not Asian at all. You have no lineage from Asia. Well, tech let do that the Hungarians, the Huns, way back in the day, Genghis Khan, isn't anyone everyone a little Asian?
00:26:48
Speaker
then how can that be racist? That everyone's got squinty eyes? is that we were In fact, you're being racist for even commenting on this. Yeah. yeah so that yeah No, you're not wrong. that was That was a race comment. I apologize for that. I should take that back. Okay. Now we're
Jurassic World Rebirth Excitement
00:27:05
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going to move on. now We're going to move on to the second little bit of news, the second really hyped trailer that came out this week.
00:27:11
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It's the Jurassic World Rebirth trailer, Adrian, and I know you're excited about this. I sent this to you. I might have sent it to you twice. I might have sent it to you as an Instagram post, and no, maybe I just sent to you as as one post. I'm not sure. My girlfriend, my fiancee, very excited about this as well. Me too. Very, very hyped. I'm hyped. What are your thoughts?
00:27:30
Speaker
Dude, there's a dinosaur guy. There's dinosaurs in this movie that's coming out. I hope so. It's called Jurassic World. And they're like, hey, we're going to the island that that they sent all the all the bad dinosaurs, the super dinos. That's what they say. And it's like it's interesting because like the way they talk about it, I'm like, are the Jurassic.
00:27:48
Speaker
animals not not in the world, like, it almost feels like they're like, we're just not really going to talk about the, you know, the last trilogy of movies. I'm sure they will kind of like tip dip their toes in. But this feels like a new kind of jumping off point, which I'm fine with. I don't really care. At the end of the day, like, I just i like I've told you this many times. Yeah, I want a good movie. I want the movie to be good. But I also just like the idea of dinosaurs killing people.
00:28:16
Speaker
You know, I just like the the thrilling adventure of that happening. And that's why ultimately Jurassic Park three is the worst of the movies, because only like two people die. They like fake kill one guy. That's all that matters. And he comes but and he and he's alive at the end of the movie. He's like, actually, I didn't die. I'm I'm um I'm here. I got my redemption arc. Hey. But then they killed the two guys at the the start of the movie. So there's like Jurassic Park three is the worst because it has the least deaths.
00:28:46
Speaker
OK, so I mean, I just want a good plot. Yeah, there might be there might be a good plot in this one. um That's not the I know it sounds absurd.
00:28:58
Speaker
but it genuinely is just not that important to me for the Jurassic Park movies. Jurassic Park, amazing, phenomenal film, amazing plot, really well done. It's beautiful, it's the best one by far, right? I would say Jurassic World is a close second, actually a really good plot, like set up well. The you know the rest are kind of like, eh, you know, whatever, but at least it's just dinosaurs killing people. But again, Jurassic Park 3, not that great of a plot.
00:29:24
Speaker
and not that many dinosaurs killing people. So it's just it's it's the weakest of the bunch, I would say. But again, I think this trailer looks good. I think it looks pretty damn good. They got some ocean dinosaurs in it. They got some not ocean dinosaurs in it. They got Scarlett Johansson going like, oh my God, there's dinosaurs. they got they got They got the long necks with the big tails waving about.
00:29:49
Speaker
It's it looks good, man. It looks good. He's in it. That's I heard of him. I heard of that guy. yeah I heard that he's starting his blade in the in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I heard that's his next movie. I don't know for the next one, but he's sometime down the line in the next 20 years, at least. It is the next big movie, me dude.
00:30:11
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know about that. Also, did you? I feel like maybe it's just me. I thought that the guy that the other lead in the movie, I thought it was Dan Stevens. I don't know why I thought that maybe because of um Jonathan. It's Jonathan Bailey. It's just another white guy with similar hair, I guess. Yeah, maybe its yeah Dan Stevens was in Godzilla versus Kong.
00:30:36
Speaker
No, but I saw him in the photo and I thought it was him. I don't know why I did. It's maybe I don't know why it's Jonathan Bailey from Bridgerton. I just didn't know. I don't know why I must have looked at him and just like, whoa, it's Dan. I don't know. I'm not sure why I thought that. Yeah, I never watched Bridgerton.
00:30:55
Speaker
I'm not super familiar with Jonathan Bailey just in general. I'm looking at his stuff. I haven't seen a single thing he's in. Right. So I'm not going to be a big role for him. It's a big franchise. Yeah. I mean, Bridgerton's huge, though, to be fair. So I don't know how prominent of a character he is in Bridgerton. He's also in Wicked. So. But there's still that idea that like a big movie like this is a huge block like like I feel like it's a huge deal for a blockbuster like this versus Bridgerton. A lot of people watch Bridgerton, but it's also a different audience in some way.
00:31:28
Speaker
Potentially, there's overlap, obviously, but you know what I mean? I think there's huge overlap between Bridgerton and Jurassic Park. But Beyonce, Dawn loves both. Oh, that's crazy. So yeah it works. do She likes the Jurassic World Park universe, and she really likes Bridgerton, from my understanding. So maybe this is a crossover, the secret crossover, Bridgerton.
00:31:53
Speaker
You know, random aside, but this just kind of reminded me of remember the movie Pride, Prejudice and Zombies, where it was essentially just like Pride and Prejudice, but then it was like a zombies movie. Hmm. Yeah, I remember. Did you see that? No, but I always wanted to watch it because I don't really care for period pieces. I don't really like the Victorian. They don't talk like that. I don't know why I did that as an example, but they're like, oh, British, we can't touch hands here sort of thing.
00:32:23
Speaker
Yeah. But then that one was like, we can't touch hands, but the zombies, so we kill them. And I was always curious about watching it. It just seemed like a dumb, dumb, fun movie. Okay. Anyways, they they should do that with Bridgerton and have a Bridgerton cross Jurassic World. Weren't they gonna do a Jurassic Park movie mixed with like,
00:32:44
Speaker
Fast and Furious. I remember them talking about that, but I don't know if that was just like random things Vin Diesel said, just people spouting things online if that was legitimate. be Imagine if that had happened. Yeah.
00:32:59
Speaker
That would have been, the I don't know, although Fast and Furious is so ridiculous, and so is Jurassic World in some ways, which is not as ridiculous as Fast and Furious. I feel like Fast and Furious, despite, that might sound crazy to think dinosaurs roaming the Earth is somehow less crazy than Fast and Furious, but Fast and Furious plays fast and loose with the facts of physics, you know? They they don't really follow science very much. That's like a An issue that they seem to think they launch a car out of a window and it somehow lands across like ah in a like a sky rise building and it somehow lands across the street on another high rise building where they take a car to the moon or something. like Didn't they do that or something like that? I don't know. i've I don't know. I've never watched. I've only seen the first two movies and then maybe o Tokyo Drift. Maybe. Oh, right. Tokyo Drift. Oh, you've watched very little of them. I don't I didn't remember that. You might only watch the for I recently watched the first two actually.
00:33:53
Speaker
within the last like couple years. And okay um yeah then I watched four of them maybe? Maybe? I don't know. They're just not, I don't know. They're not my thing. I've seen Fast Five. That one is so in theaters. That thing is the only one I saw in theaters, Fast Five. They also have the worst naming structure in the history of movies, but anyway. yeah like I just remember F9.
00:34:20
Speaker
F9. Yeah. F9. Right? There's no, it's just F9. Why? I don't know. Oh, it's good stuff. All right. Well, yeah, I'm sort of, I'm semi excited for this. I'm definitely going to see this, not on day one, but probably in the first week. Yeah. I'm talking about Jurassic World Rebirth, not the next fantastic, what is it?
00:34:41
Speaker
ah Fantastic. Fantastic? and No, not fantastic. the The next Fast and Furious. They both have F-startings of their names anyway, ah but not Fantastic Four. I haven't seen episode 25 of Fast and Furious, so I'm not really caught up with it. I don't think I'll see that in theaters, but I will see Jurassic World in theaters because my girlfriend, no way. No way. We're not going to go see that immediately. What about me?
00:35:08
Speaker
You know, I would go and you and you, you'd be interested by your girlfriend. What about your fiance? Are you not going to bring your fiance? You're just going to ditch your fiance for your girlfriend. That's whatever fiance feels to speaking of hoity toity. You know, it feels too like there's something about it that seems pretentious, doesn't it? My part, I don't like that term fiance. That's why I'm doing that, by the way. OK, I'm not having an affair. Adrian, thanks for implying that on the podcast. No worries, dude. No worries.
00:35:36
Speaker
Um, but anyway, yeah. Okay. Well, let's move on to another news story that
Chris Evans' Captain America Speculation
00:35:43
Speaker
has happened. This is a small news story. Although the original news story that it stems from is less small because two different publications, the Hollywood Reporter and Deadline reported that in late, I think they reported in roughly late 2024. They suggested this Chris Evans, actor Chris Evans, who plays Captain America and, and Johnny, is it John, Johnny flame? No, it isn't Johnny. What is his name?
00:36:07
Speaker
Johnny storm I think it is but then I'm thinking is that an x-men thing Johnny storm is his name really I don't know dude I gotta look this up we can't be some cuz he says flame on he goes like flame on yeah, but that doesn't mean his name is Johnny flame on dude yeah, I walk out i I just leave leave my front door get onto my porch, and I say Edie on like a weirdo I Yeah, dude. No, I think you're right. I think I think it is Johnny. It's Johnny. so It is. It is. johnnyco Jonathan Lowell Spencer, Johnny Storm. Right. OK, what was I saying? Anyway, he plays Johnny Storm, obviously, in the original Fantastic Four movies, and then he plays Chris. ah He plays Chris. He plays Captain America, Steve Rogers.
00:36:55
Speaker
But anyway, they suggested ah the Hollywood Reporter and Deadline both suggested that he was going to be in Avengers Doomsday. They said it was they heard from sources specifically. And honestly, the Hollywood Reporter and Deadline are usually pretty correct. So it seems to me that that would be likely that that's true if they're saying that. But Chris Evans says that.
00:37:17
Speaker
This always happens. I mean, it happens every couple of years, ever since Endgame. I've just stopped responding to it. Yeah, no. Happily retired." End quote. That's what he said. That sounds like ah like the same quote Andrew Garfield said like two weeks ago about coming back as Spider-Man. This one, though, it seems like a complete lie. Also because he was literally, this is not the story that the Hollywood Reporter and Deadline were reporting on was not
00:37:50
Speaker
Oh, that's a spoiler. Yeah, that's damn it. Well, I got to make that point. Anyway, it just seems it seems unlikely that he's telling the truth. It just seems very unlikely. That's what I'm going to say. You're saying that Chris Evans is a liar. You're saying that Chris Evans is a professional. Yeah, he sure is a liar. That is literally his job. Well, am I wrong?
00:38:17
Speaker
Maybe. By the way, i'm I'm not cutting that piece out. I just spoiled something and there was a beep. OK, because I think that's easier because then I think you were talking over it. So it's going to mess it up. So I don't want I'm not cutting it. This is this is this is a loosey goosey podcast, Adrian. I used to cut it and chop it in and move things around. And I used to make it so clean. Now it's not clean. This is the least clean podcast on the air.
00:38:41
Speaker
I think this is the cleanest podcast, honestly. Especially the way we started. This podcast went from like, we went three different topics and we jumped between them and we kept going back to the other topics we started with. What kind of start of a podcast is this? This is probably the worst start we've had in a long time. and we Maybe. We just started this after two years of recording in episode 100. It's just also reminded me, like even the order of of these quick bites, you should have just done fantastic forward leading into this.
00:39:07
Speaker
MCU. Now we and we're doing an MCU sandwich with Jurassic World. We're eating with dinosaurs. Dinosaurs is the protein in this MCU bread sandwich. Yeah. Whatever. I don't agree. Get over yourself, OK? Yeah. I write the podcast back off. All right, Adrian. It's getting mad. It's really time to look at what we're watching this
Praising 'Andor' and Star Wars Critique
00:39:31
Speaker
week. And you were really hyped to talk about something a little earlier, about, I don't know, 28 minutes ago. so You go first. What things have you watched this week? We watched one thing together. We're going to get to that last, I think, because that's the that's the kind of the joint review as we typically do. But let's do it. What is the things what are the things that you've been watching this week? Tell me.
00:39:53
Speaker
Hell yeah, baby Bachelorette is back. We're talking about, no, I'm just kidding. I went it did watch the first two episodes. They're setting up a villain early in this arc of the Bachelorette. Let me just say, they're setting up the villain. There's always a villain every season where they're like, oh, this is the bad person. Anyway, it's not important. I'm not going to waste time talking about that.
00:40:12
Speaker
It's not reality TV reality. I'm doing it. Reality TV. I don't know why I'm speaking like drag to do that. But anyway, yeah, that's super reality to set up a villain. Come. Yeah, they're a villain. It's like the drama. You want the drama. I love the drama. Sensational drama since.
00:40:33
Speaker
whack me in the face with your drama, is what I always say. Anyways. Um. Yeah, it seems sexual in some way. I don't like. I guess that's two things that you thought were sexual. But what was the other thing? I don't remember. There's something early on in the episode. I don't think there was. All right. If there is, you got to edit that exact clip in this part. and I'm just kidding. I'm not. Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it. Would you dare give me extra work?
00:41:05
Speaker
Anyway. But yes, you want me to get into it? You want me to get into it? Yeah, I do. Because you recommended something to me. I did. You actually made two recommendations. You recommend two things technically, but one was- No, I didn't. You recommended it generally. You just generally recommended it properly. Look, I actually have something to say about that. That's actually a great point that you brought up here. That's a good point, okay?
00:41:27
Speaker
I am officially, officially, not just on this podcast, but in general, I am looking to only recommend one thing maximum. And that's maximum. I might not even recommend anything to anybody, but recommend one thing maximum to watch or play an entertainment property in general across the board based on what I think the person would like.
00:41:48
Speaker
And if there' somebody's like just broadly like, what TV is good or whatever, I'll be like i'll say what I like. but ah But I'll also probably say, well, you might not like it. I like it. Anyway, but for for the people I know, like you.
00:42:00
Speaker
or Don, my fiancé, or my brother as an example. He's a great example. I've recommended too many things to my brother over the years, and he just gets so exhausted. he just His eyes glaze over, and he's just not listening to me at all. Not listening to me at all. Although I did recommend to him the thing I recommended to you, but I also recommended an onslaught of things that he was there was no way for him to get to. But I am actually making this a life rule for me. I am just going to only recommend one thing, maximum.
00:42:26
Speaker
to the people I know, because I realize how exhausting it is. I just understand that. I know it from people recommending things to me. it It becomes a bit exhausting. I'm okay. I'm welcoming it. You can recommend lots of things to me, but I'm going to try to do that from now on, like a thing that it's ah from the heart. Like I think I know, I know, I think I know that people will like it. Now you're going to say, I don't like the thing you recommended.
00:42:48
Speaker
But I'll leave it to you. You're going to tell me now if you like it or not. I don't know. I will. If you've watched this thing that I recommended. Of this thing. You only recommended one thing, by the way. One thing. Don't tell me. You technically recommended it. You recommended High On Life, the video game High On Life. I didn't. I didn't recommend it to you.
00:43:05
Speaker
I recommended it near you. Yeah, fair enough. Touche. Touche. Yeah, just a real a new recommendation. But yeah, I have been playing high on life. You're right. I would like that. yeah It is my type of humor. It's silly. It's it's stupid. it's It's a good palate cleanser. I'm enjoying it. But again, we're not talking about video games here. We're talking about movies and television, Simon.
00:43:26
Speaker
And you recommended a TV show to me in a franchise that I've arguably, I don't want to say fallen out of love with, but just not ah been as heavily invested in in in in ah in quite some time.
00:43:40
Speaker
Right. It's on Disney Plus. And one of the reasons why I didn't watch this the show that I'm building suspense for now by by by taking a long way to to say the name of the show. What could it be? It is because Disney Plus wasn't working ah like I it stopped working on my television.
00:43:58
Speaker
And then randomly, I opened Disney Plus, and it was on my phone. I'm like, Oh, I'm still logged in on my phone. What a what a coincidence. And I was like, I wonder if I can cast on my TV and it will work. So I cast it on my TV. But then it was all choppy. It was all fucked. It was all like, that du du du du i'm like okay, my TV's old, like the Wi Fi chip probably not good. I don't know.
00:44:18
Speaker
wasn't streaming properly. So I was like, Hmm, yeah, I don't think it's gonna work. So I was like, I'm gonna try it. Actually, maybe I can log it on my firestick because I have a firestick plugged into my television. And I was like, maybe maybe it's gonna work with this, even though last time I don't think I was ever logged in on the firestick. It was my PlayStation.
00:44:35
Speaker
or I tried logging in on PlayStation, wasn't working. Anyways, long story short, logged in on my fire stick. This is a long story. Because it's your account that you let me borrow and it worked. I was able to log in to watch the series that you recommended to me that begins with the letter A and ends with the letter R and has N-D-O in the middle. It's Andor, Simon. It's the Star Wars television series Andor. I built up Suspense so good. I built up Suspense the best, man.
00:45:05
Speaker
ah hopeful Hopefully, what you didn't think you were building it up for me because I recommended it to you, so I feel like it's obvious. which Imagine it was a different thing. ah Again, it starts with an A name and ends with an R, and it was RR.
00:45:20
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. That's not on Netflix. Disney Plus. Sorry. Anyway, what do you think of it? Get to the point. Yes. I want to tell you, this might be recency bias, Simon, because I fall into the trap of being recency biased of the things I watched recently. Well, how many episodes have you watched, first of all, before you all goddamn 12 episode, Simon, I've been to watch the shit of this. I finished the entire series of Andor and this show is fucking great. This show is so good, man. Yeah. What took me so long? Why did I watch this?
00:45:53
Speaker
I don't know. I was so burnt by Rise of Skywalker, so uninterested in things coming and going. And to be fair, I think it was actually on this podcast we talked about. I was very, I was like, I don't care about it. Why the fuck do I care about this one character? We actually got into like a mini fight. Yeah. In our personal lives.
00:46:12
Speaker
Yeah, I think we' we're having a bad day on a different perspective. yeah And then I just trying to convince you that you're trying to say basically, and it's a fair argument that you were saying that there was a small universe syndrome that they don't dive into stories ah that are not in the same kind of saga kind of because it kind of fits in the Skywalker saga. But you also didn't like the idea that it's a it's a prequel and you know what's going to happen because because you've seen Rogue One, because it is a prequel to Rogue One. Yeah. So i got I got that idea. But for me, I've always had this theory theory about the MCU or anything that it it doesn't matter where the story takes place. the The Star Wars universe is huge and there's so many planets and so many characters you can just introduce. But the point is, is that you really just got to tell a cohesive story and it doesn't matter where it takes place in any way. So you can make an MCU movie. It would be the MCU genre movie and it would be good potentially. That was my argument. yeah But we didn't cause see eye to eye on this in ah in a way. because um two We got too personal for no reason. It was a dark part of our podcast. This is a spin-off of a spin-off. I don't give a shit about this. I don't want to know about this. like ah Just give me something different and new. like I want something fresh. and That was my mentality. and Again, I think Rise of Skywalker burned me so bad I was just i was out. and i think i like I watched Obi-Wan, which I think came out after this. No, no.
00:47:32
Speaker
No, no, it was a announced way before because we were we got into that little scuffle kerfuffle because yeah Because we were talking about the things that were coming and that was clearly a thing you didn't like but you were interested in Kenobi I think that actually might have been in the same episode potentially. Yeah, um but but yeah, can I don't know But yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, though. Rise of Skywalker is so poor, like such a bad movie just generally that it's I can see why someone might not want to watch any Star Wars ever again. It's it's just the mentality that like as as amazing as Andor is, and I'll get into why I think it's like genuinely amazing. And up and I would argue it it it is the best piece of Star Wars media, period. Full stop. I think in my personal opinion.
00:48:16
Speaker
ah is that it it leads up to that point. you know It li like doesn't matter how amazing this is, it leads into Rise of Skywalker technically in 40 years' time or however many years take place in between. So I kind of got to the you know the point where I was just you know lacking interest. However,
00:48:35
Speaker
Very quick quickly was I proven wrong. the The writing in this show is so phenomenal to a point where a character can say one line of dialogue and it re- contextualizes every decision that character made up until that point. And it does it so brilliantly And it adds depth to, you know, specific characters that would say that thing. And I'm thinking of two specific moments in the series, but most notably um at the end of episode 10 with with um like Andy Serkis, he's an actor. What he's in the show. And what an amazing performance. this There's so many amazing performances in this.
00:49:26
Speaker
Yes, in this show. It's crazy. And there's so many shocking performances and and and things that you don't expect in characters and maybe actors that you never thought maybe would be in it in some capacity. but they do They show up and like they just give the performance of their lives in some cases. It's just yeah it's really crazy. I my reference to the show has always been.
00:49:48
Speaker
I just realized your name, your name here is Tiny Buttman. Yeah, I was wondering why did you name yourself that on Zencaster? I don't know. Anyway, I'm a tiny butt. And or Andor to me is Star Wars for adults. Mm hmm.
00:50:08
Speaker
It's like where Star Wars, as as said by George Lucas, if I recall correctly, he said Star Wars is for kids and he made it for kids. And I feel like Andor is a show for adults. If you were moved, if you remove the Star Wars from Andor, it would still be an amazing show. Yeah, that makes sense. like You can make it.
00:50:28
Speaker
Yeah, no, I agree with you. Like, I think if you remove, I think you would have to add a little bit more context, I think. Yeah, like what science fiction universe is this, perhaps? Exactly. What dystopian society, what what is the what is the regime that's taken over this galaxy or whatever? That's exactly.
00:50:46
Speaker
That's yeah. the by By the way, the color they added there in terms of how this regime operates and like that's so awesome. It really adds so much to the Star Wars universe. You're right. When you think about it in the context of that, it leads the rise of Skywalker. It kind of sucks. But yeah, in comparison, the rise of Skywalker, it's like night and day in terms of.
00:51:05
Speaker
the creative levels of what the show can be. Sorry, um I'm stealing your thunder. Continue. No, no. but like I can't agree more with that, man. like it's just It's so well done and well acted. And again, yeah, there's there's specific characters that show up that leave such an impact on you. And again, like Andy Serkis' character, most notably, like he says one like one line of dialogue at the end of episode 10 that, again, recontextualizes this entire character's motivations and everything surrounding that that arc of the show.
00:51:35
Speaker
that I literally was just like. left and on. And there was multiple moments where I'm watching this show. And it's, again, it's so funny. It's like, I know where Andor is going to go. There's so many other characters that aren't in the larger universe that I don't know what's going to happen. Like one specific guy is really cool, and your drive is a really cool spaceship. yeah I'll just say that. Yeah. so Yeah, very much so. And I mean, um really, the you know there is like Mon Mothra,
00:52:07
Speaker
Am I pronouncing my name right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Mon Mothma. I think I said Mothma. Mothra is the freaking Godzilla. Yeah. It's a butterfly thing. So yeah. And you know, like her characters in it and adding all the extra context with her is is so cool and so phenomenal. And it the the coolest part about the show is, again, like it it shows you it like behind the the curtain of how the empire operates. And it gets to this point of like how does this empire actually operate properly?
00:52:49
Speaker
you know, why are there so many people that are, you know, in this fascist regime that's running and that seems so comically evil in all of the other pieces of content that you that that you take in, and you realize that a shit ton of the people that work in the empire, a lot of these imperial so soldiers are just for regular people.
00:53:10
Speaker
that are in the situation. Delivers this crazy context. It's it's awesome. it it it It humanizes them, I guess. Very much so. And the thing that I think the show does brilliantly is it dehumanizes the rebels.
00:53:25
Speaker
in a way, not not necessarily dehumanizes. I don't think that's the right phrase, but in some ways, in some ways, yeah they make them because the the rebels are always, oh, they're a beacon of hope. You know, like they that's like like Obi-Wan, your only hope, you know, like that's that's the premise of the the the original trilogy. And it makes the rebels seem like good people. And this show really highlights how the rebels aren't necessarily good people. There's a line of like, how many evil things are you allowed to do to make the greater good happen? And there are people that are working for the rebels. And again, there's multiple sects of the rebels and they're not necessarily communicating properly and they have different morals and
00:54:15
Speaker
you know, ideals of how far they should go in certain circumstances. And and they're working together the means. Exactly. And you're seeing again and again, even characters that we've seen in the larger universe make decisions that are so morally gray and awful, arguably. um And it just adds so much depth to these characters. Again,
00:54:44
Speaker
to to some of the characters that we have we have seen in future content. Again, there's not too many characters, so I'm kind kind of a half spoiler, but not necessarily. Well, it also adds context to just the rebels in general as an entity, which you which you just said too. like it Just generally in the empire, I feel like that what you said doesn't spoil anything. No, from my perspective anyway. Yeah, and it just really kind of goes to show like Like what is the actual cost of freedom? Like how far are you willing to go and what are you willing to sacrifice? And I feel like that is the common thread throughout this entire first season is what are you willing to sacrifice?
00:55:26
Speaker
to get to a point. And you have someone like Andor who's really just, he's he's a mercenary. He doesn't really care about the rebel cause, you know, and he's kind of tied up in this, but he's surrounded by people that do care about the rebel cause. And obviously we see where that story eventually takes him, but to see him kind of flip-flop back and forth and and see, you know,
00:55:47
Speaker
how he's eventually going to become the character we see in Rogue One is so interesting. And again, I'll eat my humble pie, Simon. I was dead wrong. I was dead wrong when the show was announced. I think one of the things you said, too, is you didn't like casting an end or the character in Rogue One. That was one of the things. I think that's what I remember now, too. It's just complexity. They added this complexity to his character, which was great, too, because he's an ensemble cast more so in the movie. Obviously, it's an ensemble cast in this, too, in some way. I mean, it is called Andor, so it does focus on him. But there's this idea that in that you're kind of, he kind of blurs into the background a little bit, so he becomes a little bit less interesting. But in this,
00:56:30
Speaker
You can become such a complex character based on the writing being so spot on and detailed, even just like the fact that think about the arcs in this that different arcs. There's so many different types of TV shows in this one show about a bow to science fiction Star Wars situation. Yeah, there's the beginning first three episodes is different from the next three and then is different from the next three.
00:56:56
Speaker
It's nine, right? It's nine episodes in total. Twelve. Oh, it's twelve. And then there's another three. I can't. remember Yeah, it's a while ago. Yeah, I feel like it's like three, three, four, two is is the right is kind of how the arcs work. Yeah. um And that's crazy. The lot of shows don't do it like that. there It feels it just feels like they've just.
00:57:18
Speaker
like Tony Gilroy and his team thought of what they wanted to tell and they're not, there's no fat. It doesn't feel like there's any fat, like he just wanted to explain the story. There's also characters in that it's adult Star Wars, just like a Rogue One. There's this this idea that characters are not,
00:57:35
Speaker
they get introduced and they they go away and they they there's no there it's like a real life situation if you're a rebel in a rebel cause or only on the imperial imperial side they introduce characters that may not survive and that they and that's it's it's devastating in the way that they show off these characters and they make you love the characters and potentially They may not live like Rogue One, which is the beautiful thing about Rogue One as well. And they carried that into this this show. um And i I don't know, it's just it's really cool. And there's, again, the complexity in most of the characters, they're not just one dimension a lot of the time. They feel like real people that are dealing with their own conflicted lives. And it's it's really cool. It's awesome.
00:58:19
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The music, by the way, is really good, too. I remember making notes about that when I'd watched it. And maybe you should watch it again before season two, because it's been many years now. I think it's been two years or something like that. Three. It was 2022. It was supposed to come this year. Yeah, OK. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. I'm glad they took their time. I hope it's as good as that first season.
00:58:37
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because it's... Me too. but yeah yeah yeah Anything else that I interrupted you there? i just No, no. like I do agree with you. The music's stellar. It really matches the tone. It really elevates certain moments and builds tension in a lot of moments. They know when to use silence. They know when to add a score. um And even just, again, like adding add adding additional points of like how the empire even operates on the back end.
00:59:04
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Again, like it it's so interesting because they blur the lines on who's who are the good guys and who are the bad guys in the greater thing. um yeah Because again, a lot of the people that work for the Empire just want order. like They want justice. like One of the main characters that you follow that that's an Imperial soldier is him literally being like, I need to track down a murderer because he killed some of my guys.
00:59:27
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And that's like is as misguided as the empire and the empire is, they, they, they seem to want order. They see, him they find, they find the good in their cause, I guess, despite it overall, not necessarily being great, yeah but they can't see that blinded by the, the.
00:59:45
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the dogma, I guess. ah it Yeah. And it's also like, I feel like a lot of the time when we see the empire um in in movies and stuff, again, it's it is like that comically evil, like we're just going to blow shit up and murder a bunch of people. And in this show, they like it shows like, no, like they will do crazy psychological torment on on people instead of actually hurting them. They will essentially ruin a planet's culture by just planting seeds.
01:00:17
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in into it, as opposed to just murdering all of them, and just being like, well, they're gonna stop following their like old culture because we're introducing them to new things. like There's so many layers to the show, and every scene is just so engaging. like Again, like you mentioned, there's no fat, there's no fluff. like I was in a ingrained. and and it's I feel like, I don't know, i've ive I have a shitty attention span these days, so I need the show to be really good.
01:00:43
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to me to kind of be focused like I've been watching. ah I'm not gonna really talk about this in detail, but like I was watching the Dexter prequel series that they released. Oh, yeah. And it's just not good, man. Like, it's just not that great. Like, I i don't need to be like focusing on it. i'm i'm I'm bored. You know, a lot of the time and in this one, I like, I finished an episode like, I can watch another.
01:01:05
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And then i I watched the last four episodes today, like leading up to to this recording, partially because I wanted to talk about it and and be able to like give like a concrete sort of explanation, but also because I wanted to know what the hell was going to happen next. Like it's it's it's so good. Despite it being a prequel. Despite it being a prequel. You know, there's enough there that. Yeah. The Dexter prequel, not good. I don't like it. I don't think it's in contrast to another prequel. Yeah, actually. Yeah.
01:01:35
Speaker
So it is really good and I am very glad I watched it. So you're now allowed to give me one more recommendation at at any point. Well, I'll time it. I got to think about it and then and go from there. But I do remember distinctly it was the composer Nicholas Bertel and I was listening to the music from the show for like weeks after because I loved it so much. It just it it hit me really.
01:01:58
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hard. like I loved it a lot. I love it a lot. I just haven't listened to it in a while. It's funny how things come and go, a like trends in your life. You just jump into a video game or a movie and you just can't stop thinking about it for a few weeks and then two years pass and you're like, oh yeah, I love that thing. It's interesting. But yeah, Nicholas Patel did such a great job. It's such a good score. It's fantastic. i Yeah, I love that show. Man, yeah I should watch it again, I think. I watched Severance again, as we talked about in either episode 101 or 102. I watched it on the plane. Oh, it must have been 102. But I watched it on the plane in the lead up to Severance season two, because there's such a big gap between the seasons. And I feel like I probably should watch Andor again.
01:02:41
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but But, uh, man, we'll come in. It's cool. Yeah. I'm glad you liked it. Me too. I guess before I continued it. Oh, sorry. go No, go ahead. I'm glad I was correct. See, that's the thing. That's why I'm cautious, by the way, about giving too many, too many suggestions, because once you.
01:02:58
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Once you dilute the suggestions with multiple suggestions and then the person you gave the the recommendation to now has multiple things to choose from and they pick maybe the worst one, then they're like, that wasn't even that good. and Then your your opinion some some is suddenly not as valuable as it once was. so That's why I specifically gave you that one suggestion and I don't want to give you too many, but I'll you know i'll buy my time, think about the next one and then go from there.
01:03:26
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Sounds good. It is funny, though, because like independently, my my my pal Peter was also recommending me and or I don't think I mentioned this to you, but he was messaging me because he just recently watched it. And funnily enough, the other show that he recommended before that was Severance as well.
01:03:41
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Oh, which because he was like watching it. And I was like, Oh, it's funny. Simon has recommended both of these shows to me. Yeah, so yeah I'm glad I'm glad I watched it. Fantastic. Highly recommended. I think I think if you were are a existing Star Wars fan, you probably watch it. But if you were a lapsed Star Wars fan, this is a way to kind of bring the pull you back into the universe and realize like,
01:04:05
Speaker
No, this is a great universe and there's some stellar stories to tell within it. Yeah, it's a genre. That's the thing I keep saying. it Star Wars is a genre. You can pick and choose what is interesting to you, but then potentially based on the properties that exist. Now, now now they're not all good as evidenced by Secret Invasion in the MCU. It's the same idea. MCU is a genre. Secret Invasion is horrible.
01:04:29
Speaker
So that that's the idea and or is my favorite Star Wars thing, I think, too. And I think I buy your strikes back. I said that a few episodes ago that I think of our service back kind of gets close potentially because it's kind of where it started for me for the best of Star Wars. But I don't know. It's tricky because a lot of people just look at Star Wars as this bad thing and they don't want to give things a chance. But I find it annoying. And it's just a cynical view of of anything, really. I don't really get this, like, oh, I'm done with Star Wars.
01:04:56
Speaker
I used to be a fan, but I'm not a fan anymore because of the last Jedi." I don't know. Like, like okay, sure. Well, don't watch it, I guess. Stop talking about it, then. That's that's my argument. There's a number of times I talk to people who don't like Star Wars anymore. And like they complain about it. It's because they have to let you know that they don't like it, right? It's just, I don't know. yeah stop watching i was like Why it your personality, though? I don't understand.
01:05:20
Speaker
Yeah, like when I stopped watching Star Wars, I'm like, I'm just not going to talk about it. Like if it gets brought up, it's not good enough. I used to be a Star Wars fan before anyone was a Star Wars fan and I don't like it anymore. Like, stop. When I was born, I came out when the movies came out. You're younger than me. I came out of the womb and I was watching Star Wars. and i I was holding the Blu-ray ah blura set of all the movies out of the womb and they didn't even get made yet.
01:05:49
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I was ready was only the 4k blu-rays and I was only in the 4k blu-rays that were added by Lucas. I was holding the original ones. Yeah
01:06:00
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The original trilogy unedited. Hun shot first, I tell you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Why does this person sound like this? What's going on with them? Anyway, um but yeah, that's that's fair. It's just yeah, that's an issue. It is an issue. And the fact the fact of the matter is the people who complain about it, then they complain about it, but they haven't seen and or And that's when I say to them instantly, well, have you seen Andor yet? And they say, no, I heard it's good. He's like, you just told me for like 20 minutes why Star Wars is bad, but you haven't even seen Andor because you're not willing to give it a chance, but you're willing to condemn the entire series of all TV shows and movies because it's bad now, according to you. Anyway, broad strokes, very annoying.
01:06:50
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No nuance, Adrian, as we've talked about previously on our show. But anyway, um okay, cool. You want me to go next with my thing or you wanna go next with your thing? Yeah, yeah you know No, I got a couple other things to mention, but you go next. You go next, you're telling me about something. The next one is is my favorite movie from 2024. And I hadn't watched it until this week.
01:07:16
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My, uh, speaking of girls' nights, my fiance went to see her friends like drive like three hours away and she hung out with them over the, over the course of the Saturday and they, she slept over there and I had time and I'm like, what do I do? And so I watched a few movies.
01:07:33
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um One of them, umm I'm going to kind of glance over a little bit faster because I didn't like it as much, but it was still good. And that movie was Amelia Perez. That movie I watched like from the Netflix. so I'll actually talk about this really briefly now, actually. it's ah it's basically before Before you continue.
01:07:50
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Yeah, it's like so you're coming in. We're slightly positive. All I've heard is negativity about this movie. Like it has an atrocious audience score. I've seen some good of the music score. This isn't a movie that I'm saying I love, though. I'm just OK. But did you know my twenty twenty like it? Sorry, did I? Is it good? I befuddled that I didn't mess up the way I that I confuse you in the way I describe that. Well, and I hear your place.
01:08:13
Speaker
No, anytime I hear about Amelia Perez, it's just purely negative. Like I haven't heard a single positive thing about it, yeah anything online. So I'm just genuinely curious. Did you kind of like it? You think it's OK? Like I think it's OK. It's a strange premise, though, I must say. It's not amazing. It's not the best movie at all that I've watched in 2024. It's a 73 percent of Rotten Tomatoes. The audience score is very bad. Seventeen percent popcorn meter score. Not great at all. I thought it's incredibly interesting and it takes huge swings, like huge risks.
01:08:43
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It's very interesting. It's a it's about a cartel leader. Who has an operation. it's It's trans, basically. Yeah. And for the operation, they're basically also pretending that their past self is dead.
01:09:05
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Oh, and they're trying to get out of the game. And so where what is into the dryer? Yeah, that that's it. I've seen that clip and I'm like, this is not good. This is crazy. But again, it's a die out of context. So this is a musical, which is so wild, a musical about a cartel in Mexico. The actors are very interesting, too. It's it's always telling humans.
01:09:29
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Yeah, it's Carla Sofia Garcon, which has so much controversy now surrounds surrounds her ah because of tweets she she posted on Twitter, which honestly, don't just forget about what you posted. She's great in the movie. she like her ah Her performance is really good.
01:09:45
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And Zoe Saldani is amazing. You know what's the craziest thing about this, though? There's all this like talk about Selena Gomez. On one side, people are like, she's amazing. And on the other side, there's like, she's not good. she's Her Spanish is not not doesn't sound like real Spanish.
01:10:00
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And then for me, I'm like, I don't really see either side. Again, I don't really care. Selena Gomez is probably the weakest part of the movie. They get in terms of like weakest in terms of not unforgettable, forgettable. She's not weak at all. She's great, but she's just not she's not as good as Zoe Saldana at all. Like Zoe Saldana to me is honestly the main actor. She's the protagonist, which is weird because She's not nominated for Best Actress. She's nominated for Best Supporting Actress, but she's in it more than Carla go-Sophia Gerson. And Carla-Sophia Gerson, who plays, obviously, Emilia Perez, is the actor that's nominated for Best Actress.
01:10:41
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Which I thought was weird. I don't really, that that I didn't understand, but regardless they take big swings. Some of the songs felt weird. That song specifically caught me completely off guard because of the line you just said. It's in both Spanish and in English.
01:10:56
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And it just interchangeably moves between them. It's a very interesting movie, man. It's it's very interesting. Now, is it for everyone? ah Heck no. I guess that's why it's got a 17 percent popcorn meter score. But um it's divisive. I don't know. on it On the context of it being art, if you're interested in like a different type of film that's not anything like you've seen before or at least anything like I've seen before, it's a pretty good. I liked it.
01:11:26
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Yeah, I don't know. It's fascinating how this would be a musical that would work. That's what I'll say. You think it does work as a musical? I think so. It does? Yeah. I think it works. I understand why it's nominated for Best Picture. Really? You're saying nobody likes it. It's not true because it was nominated for Best Picture. Right? Yeah.
01:11:50
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Yeah, I'm being hyperbolic, obviously. I'm saying that, like, everything I have heard about it was negative. Like, I haven't heard a single positive thing. You are the first person that informed me of positivity about this place. It's so probably the most interesting, like, again, um in terms of big swings and big risks taken like jock oddyard.
01:12:13
Speaker
The director, crazy swings. Just crazy swings. It's it's cool. its It's a cool movie, but again, I would definitely say not for everyone. And I completely understand why people wouldn't like it. But I mean, I don't know what you're going into expecting. It's a it's a movie about a cartel that's a musical. And the I don't know. it's it's it's such a you If I describe the plot to you, you again, it's as I did, I feel like it's not something that is going to appeal to everyone just on its own. Have you ever seen a cartel themed musical that's really a drama? It's not really a comedy at all. It takes itself seriously. you know It could be, if it was like a cartel musical comedy, they'd be like, okay, I can kind of see where that would go but because you can kind of take that serious topic and make it lighthearted maybe in some way, but it's not lighthearted. It's not really lighthearted at all.
01:13:06
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It's just not the theme of it. Anyway, I talked more long way longer on this than I intended. Anyway, I think it's pretty good. I i think it's pretty good. It's not bad in any way, in my opinion, but I definitely see why it's not for everyone. The movie that I did watch, though, as well, that same weekend, and this is a movie that I believe is my favorite movie of 2024, is Anora. It is so excellent. I watched it. I watched it too. You saw it too. What the heck? You didn't bring it up.
01:13:35
Speaker
Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna bring it up once you passed it back to me. Oh, okay. Well anyway, so this works out. This is a surprise. What a surprise. Yeah, I just think that it's just ah it's excellent in every way. And this is something actually we're going to lead into because we're going to be talking about the movie companion that we saw in theaters in the Cineplex that we referenced earlier.
01:13:55
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I find this is the opposite of that movie companion in a lot of ways in that this movie is incredibly detailed and every little fine little thing, every single tiny detail, but the characters, the costume design, the set design, every single tiny thing is exactly planned out and detailed and Sean Baker seems to know what everything will be. There's even this idea that characters are speaking Russian.
01:14:18
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In the movie, there's no subtitles. There's no planned subtitles. And do you just somehow understand what they're saying. From my perspective, I understood what they were saying. I didn't need the subtitles. it was I watched it with subtitles. It wasn't in the, that's not part of it, so you must've added it in or something. Yeah, because it it had the option because there was so much stuff going on. I'm like, wait, what the fuck's happening? So I put on the subtitles. So that's actually something I wanted. I watched it as a baseline movie based on what he wanted. I'm a very big fan, as you may know, of the director's intent. I don't love star i don't like love Subway sandwiches. I prefer Jersey Mike's as an example. I want the sandwich to be, as the executive chef, demanded.
01:14:54
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And in this case, I want the color palette. I want whatever it is that they wanted it to be. I wanted whatever the sound system it should be. If I can get as close as possible, I wanted to hear it as they intended. I want to see it as they intended. I'm a fan of calibration and things like that. So in this case, I just watched it as I thought was intended, which was the Russian bits are in Russian and there's no subtitles, which I thought was a big swing. Speaking of big swings,
01:15:21
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And so, I don't know, I i think that Mikey Madison and Yura Borisov are incredible, and they both specifically um deserve their Oscar nominations, and I think they probably will win. I just, I don't know for sure, because I haven't seen all the movies yet for the Oscar nominations, so maybe I should hold that comment. but I don't know. I think the devil's in the details and I think that he got all the details right. It feels like a slice of life movie and it shows it like, well, I didn't really give any context. It's about a sex worker, essentially. It's about a stripper who lives in New York. It's New York City, right? well correct I think so. Yeah, it has to be. Yeah, it's definitely New York City. And so she's working in New York City and then she she gets into a relationship with this this ah Russian 23 year old, 22 year old one.
01:16:13
Speaker
21. There you go. And, uh, yeah, and, uh, it, this, this specific Russian kid is, uh, he's very immature, but he's also really rich. And, uh, it is what happens with ah really after that, that I think is the most interesting part of it in the most unexpected piece. What happens after they kind of start their relationship?
01:16:41
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is very interesting. I couldn't believe where it went, actually. I agree completely. i think I think this is one of those trailers that did this movie such a service because it I think it kind of brings you in and kind of shows you like, oh, it's like this young and reckless love story. And it yeah is, but there is so much more depth to it than that. and Yeah. just Just speak on that too. the the The log line mentions right in the first line, it's a Cinderella story.
01:17:10
Speaker
Which is like, yeah okay, is it? It's like it's an interesting the way it's described, but it's very, yeah, no, for sure. Yeah, go on. Yeah, that's it's that's yeah no, I just, yeah, like yeah the where the story goes is is brilliant and it's so unique. and i And it's interesting because when I was watching this movie and it's like, and we finished it, my fiance and I, who she really liked it as well. and Again, this movie is like, it's a comedy, I would argue that this is kind of more yeah a comedy, but it is also a very dark comedy. There's a lot of good dramatic moments. And there's a lot of sadness sprinkled throughout this film, too, just kind of the way where where a Nora is as a person, Annie, she goes by Annie, you know, she's just like this typical sex worker or whatever, and then kind of gets swept off her feet and thrown into the situation where that, you know, story goes is is is so good. um But
01:18:08
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Yeah, like so the movie ended and it's like, oh, directed by Sean Baker. I'm like, why do I know that name? It's because I watched, you ever watch the movie, ah The Florida Project? It came out like 2017. So I watched one of his movies before, totally very different, very different, not not a similar style, stars Willem Dafoe and everything. But the one thing that I remember is when I watched The Florida Project, it was a very unique movie. I was like, I haven't seen anything like this and this is really good and I loved it.
01:18:35
Speaker
And this is another one of those movies where I've never seen anything like this, really, you know, I've seen like a dark comedy, but like, again, just the the premise and and where where the tale brings us um is is wholly unique. And I think Sean Baker, I haven't seen any of his other movies really masters realistic reactions to situations. um And it is very Raw, I guess. And I know yeah talk about how that's a great word to describe it. yeahw Yeah. raw I feel like you're there. I feel very immersive in the way it's told. And I think they did talk about how they didn't have, oh man, what are they called? I want to say compassion coaches, but that's not the thing.
01:19:20
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intimacy coaches on set. And I think they talked about how he didn't want to like bring intimacy coaches onto the set because he wanted things again to seem very real and legitimate like and have the actors react.
01:19:35
Speaker
Legitimate, you know, like in a way that they weren't sure, but sure. I think it is very controversial, but I think it adds to the movie. Um, yeah, definitely. caught Maybe you can also just have an intimacy coach and and also create the same effect and make everyone feel safe. But Mikey Madison specifically said she didn't feel unsafe. So I guess, yeah, that's the key. But, um, yeah, again, very, very raw movie and it's just.
01:20:02
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So it's cool that again, we're in a Western audience and we're we've been introduced to some actors that have not been in any you know American movies or Canadian movies really. um Like I think this was, what's his name? um
01:20:20
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Is it Mark, Mark Eitelstein, who is a Russian actor? Like this was his first, you know, American movie and he plays the the young kid. I don't know if this ah Yuri Borisov has been in anything um like in the Americas. But again, he's he was really good in it. And I can I can definitely see him kind of being put into a lot more movies going forward here. There's just so much subtlety.
01:20:48
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in his like there' He doesn't say that many lines. I don't know. he He's just such an interesting... and you The way he's even introduced is just so natural. everyone Every character that's introduced seems so natural. It just feels like... It's crazy. it Again, it just feels like you're there. It just feels very real and the there's very human reactions across the board.
01:21:11
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I don't know. it's It's very good. I also love the fact that, and this is something that should be that that way in every movie, whether it be a blockbuster or whatever, is that the action is dictated by the plot, like very purely, like very specifically. and very Like the action could be the sex scenes or the comedy or actually action in some some so some ways. so I feel like it is completely dictated but by the plot. It felt all natural. It all made sense. There's never a scene out of place. This is like the most put together. We talked about, you remember Emerald Fennell's movie? What was that called? A Promising Young Woman. Promising Young woman Woman. We talked about it in a way back back way back when we saw that at the same time or we saw it and then we talked about it like on the podcast. We talked about how it felt like everything was
01:22:00
Speaker
exactly what she wanted it was all exactly everything seemed like it was precisely there was no there's no medallers from like an executive team coming in and saying hey sean baker you can't do this thing or you can't do that thing every single thing even the smallest characters characters are in in it for five seconds they feel substantial and they feel like real people. We talked about Wolfman last week and how all the people in that world kind of felt like they're just there to serve the plot and they really don't have, they're not, they don't, you said they don't exist. They just exist for us, if that if I recall correctly. But this yeah yeah feels like you're just getting a snapshot of these individuals' lives. The characters all feel like they're there. There's just, yeah, again, the acting is so good too. You're Borisov's acting, even,
01:22:47
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I don't want to talk too much about it because it was spoil the movie, but like the the last scene like really got me. there's like this that The way they end the movie is so crazy too. It's so interesting. It it affected me for for a few hours after. I was just like pacing around the house thinking about how beautifully it was made and how funny it was and how sad it was and how it made me cry and and feel things. it was it It is very great. I recommend this movie to everyone. um It is a little bit sexy and heavy.
01:23:16
Speaker
I think that's not a spoiler. It is about a sex worker. Yeah. But yeah, anyway, it's great. It is really great. Let's put a nice surprise. We didn't even plan on that time. We both just watched a Nora. Look at us, me and you. Yeah. Yeah. Did you rent it? How did you get it? Yeah, rented it. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I don't think it's on any way service. No. Otherwise, I wouldn't have rented it. Yeah.
01:23:47
Speaker
You're asking the wrong guy. In other words, because I would have just used the streaming service then. But yeah, no, excellent. yeah again I can't can't stress enough. This is this is for me. In my letterbox scores and all that stuff, I very rarely give anything a five out of five. This for me is a five out of five. I have like 23 movies in total that are five out of five. This is one of my favorite movies of all time. that That's crazy. twenty era But you've only seen 24 movies, if I recall.
01:24:18
Speaker
They're all five out of five, including Wolfman from last week. I talked so negatively about it, but I actually loved it. That didn't get a five out of five. every it tool Yeah, 23 out of 24 movies you've watched are five out of five. Yeah, that's right.
01:24:35
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yeah but um Other than that, I'll give a little snapshot of the other things I watched. I watched other TV shows. um I watched Silo, season two. I've watched a few episodes of that.
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01:24:47
Speaker
Very great show, just still just as top tier as it was that I remember anyways for season one. Love Silo, Rebecca Ferguson.
01:24:55
Speaker
Great. Just great show. Love it. Apple TV plus killing it on the science fiction stuff. They just kill it. Science fiction show after science fiction show, they just do a great job. The other thing I watched um actually is Invincible.
01:25:08
Speaker
Dude, I forgot that it came out entirely. That really existed. Yeah, season three is coming. Anyway, season two. It came out yesterday, dude, as of recording. Oh, right. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm watching season two of Invincible. I haven't caught up. I have not even watched season two. Oh, shit. So I'm catching up right now on season two. I forgot. Sorry. Yeah, it did just come out, yes.
01:25:29
Speaker
yeah You forgot to mention that on things that we're excited about in the next couple of weeks, because I totally were excited about it. I was. I was not excited about it. It's fine. I thought you like that show, but it's OK.
01:25:41
Speaker
They didn't advertise it properly. You look hurt. They didn't advertise it, Simon. I love the invincible. I read all the graphic novels of invincible. I know. I know. I know. You don't have to prove it to me, but you can prove it to the audience because they don't know you. Regardless of that, invincible season two, I'm liking it. I'm liking it. It's very well reviewed, invincible. Just really well reviewed. I think it's like 100 percent for all of the seasons. why It just came out right. The season three just came out as yesterday and again.
01:26:09
Speaker
Yes. Did they drop the whole season this time? Oh, I don't think so. No. to Last time, I think definitely not. Definitely not. And there's a reason for that. We're going to get to that. Oh, they didn't. They didn't. I think they're doing week to week again.
01:26:24
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But lastly, I watched a couple episodes of Star Wars, a skeleton crew, the skeleton crew, Star Wars, skeleton crew. I should probably know the name of it if I watched it while it's in the crew. So sorry, Simon, sorry to interrupt before you continue. they were They released the first three episodes of season three. The first three? Yeah.
01:26:44
Speaker
OK, and then there's going to be eight. So I think it's like three. And then they're going to just do week to week after. Just doing just a quick heads up. Quick correction there. Sweet. Thanks. Thank you for that. So you watch Skeleton Crow, you say? I watched two episodes of that. Very good. Very good. Crazy. i We talked about.
01:26:59
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I'm in a Star Wars mood. I'm in a Star Wars mood. Do I start watching Skeleton Crew now? Don't recommend it to me, because then you can't recommend anything ever again. But um I'm not recommending it to you. I haven't seen the whole thing, so it's hard for me to do that. I've seen two episodes, so I'm not going to be crazy about it. I'm not crazy. Just let me finish it and I'll let you know.
01:27:15
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It's been out for a while now, but skeleton crew, we talked about this before, but the directors are just wild. Like the Daniels are directed it. Um, and like various other, like the David out allow re directed as well in an episode. It is.
01:27:30
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Give It Lowry actually just directed the well we did direct the episode I just watched, which is the second episode. The first episode, I must say, I was not really into it, weirdly. And then the second episode, I i watched it and I was like, okay, I see where they're going with this. This is very interesting. I thought the second episode was quite good, like overall. And Star Wars is at its best and in some ways when they're when they're in the kids side of Star star Wars, not the and or adult side, I guess, when they really,
01:27:59
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They really put detail in the set design, and but like the production design, the costumes, and really put these little details into showing off the world in ways that like it's almost like a pan shot of just a bizarre, like a city or like a small marketplace. And you can just see all these little things happening, these different aliens and just wacky shit going on. That's kind of where I feel like it's at its best because that's the that's how i felt I felt like when I watched the original Star Wars, just Star Wars.
01:28:28
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um Episode four, I guess. They renamed it two. When I first watched that, they go to the cantina and you're just like, oh, wow, this is like a lot of different aliens here. And there's just, you're thrown into the world. You're thrust into it and you feel immersed in that world. That's what it felt like in episode two. I am very intrigued. I've just been watching too many shows and in movies at the same time, obviously watching severance as well. And so I've just not been watching things at a normal pace. So as I get through it, I will.
01:28:58
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keep you apprised of the situation. Yeah. but Our mutual friend Corey actually. mentioned, actually a similar thing is that he, he, I think he finished it and he said that it's really good, but he said the same thing that he watched the first episode and he was like, I don't, I don't know if I'm going to be into this. And he just kept on watching it and he's like, it gets really good. He's, he, he, he said that it was good. So yeah, John, like director of the Spider-Man, the new Spider-Man trilogy that just happened. I think he's got something here. He's got something here. It's cool. It's really neat. Something electric. Something electric. Yeah. His last name is Watts.
01:29:36
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Oh, so obvious. like Such a dunce. All right. Don't worry about it. It's OK. OK, cool. Anything else you watch? Is that everything? Yeah. um I'll keep this one brief. But I did watch Creature Commandos. James Gunn's Creature Commandos. You watch it as well? No. OK. How did you watch it?
01:29:57
Speaker
So I watched it on Stack TV. So you pay for Stack TV? No, free trial. I would never pay for Stack TV, Simon. Because they have ads. It's $15 a month Canadian now. so And there are ads. There's three ads in an episode, in a 20-minute episode. Fucking unreal, dude. But yeah, I got the free trial. so much I got the free trial. and And I watched it all. but Fuck Stack TV. Stack TV sucks. You watched the whole thing? I watched all seven episodes.
01:30:26
Speaker
OK, how was it? It's really good. It's really good. I mean, James Gunn knows how to make a ragtag group of bad people very enjoyable to watch. Like, again, he just understands how to make a gang of people play off each other very well and you get attached to them. And yeah similarly, the Misfits story of these these like lovable nonheroes all come together and somehow defeat evil. Even the Guardians, yeah the Suicide Squad, not Suicide Squad, the Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, and now now this. And and it was it's it's really good and very interesting. And this is technically, it's interesting because this is, I think, tied to his like
01:31:10
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Wider superman, you know, like where superman universe is kicking it off. It's not the superman universe It's tied up that all the actors are the same actors that we're gonna play the live action rules. That's yeah so interesting about c creature commandos That's what I by the way wasn't gonna but i wasn't gonna play invincible wasn't gonna watch it I was gonna watch a creature commandos, but I couldn't because it wasn't available. Is it not on crave? I Thought it was gonna be on craze you don't have crave No, is that why yeah, my craves done now.
01:31:36
Speaker
Well, go on. Is there anything else about Creature Commandos you want to point out before i I have a diatribe to go on about? but um Ultimately, it's just it's really good. I again, like it's another one of his, you know, when he talked about the Suicide Squad, don't get too attached. You can say the same thing about this show as well. There's a lot of characters that can introduce. He's not.
01:31:54
Speaker
you know, worried about um making some rash decisions to to to kind of break your heart. um But very good. Awesome. Awesome stuff. um' ah This is really this is a cool kickoff point. But it's also very interesting because they reference the Suicide Squad. They reference things that happen in Peacemaker as well. So yeah it is it is cool but at the same time it's so confusing how all of this is kind of connected i stand by the fact that the flash and the you know the zach snider universe the flash is canon in this new universe and what he did
01:32:28
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And there's the Snyder versus now stuck in a different universe and then he created another universe and somehow peacemakers now here and and all these other characters, the Suicide
Crave and Movie Streaming Frustrations
01:32:38
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Squad. It's it's all here and it's in this new universe. And yeah, I'm very excited to see these actors show up in the live action movies as well, because I'm sure some of them will will show up all around. So cool Yeah, really good. Highly recommended. You would love this. it's It's clear. But yeah, anyways, take it away. So here's the issue. Here's the issue. this is ah this is a I almost literally canceled Crave. I don't understand what Crave is doing. I don't know what Bell Media is doing specifically. Crave is terrible. Crave is the worst streaming service by far that I pay for and it's getting getting worse and in my opinion. Here's the issue. So I went to go watch
01:33:19
Speaker
Creature Commandos. I go in, I go in the service, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna watch Creature Commandos. Not there. chrisp Creature Commandos is specifically an HBO Max, sorry, Max show, just Max, for some reason, terrible name. Regardless of that, Max has...
01:33:39
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creature commandos on it. Crave never got creature commandos though. Crave is a Canadian streaming service audience. They were designed basically around really having Warner Brothers content strangely, because they seem to have a deal, but with h like with HBO specifically.
01:33:57
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So they typically have a mirror of the HBO content except in worse quality. Crave doesn't support really anything except for 5.1 audio. They don't support Dolby Atmos or DTS if you're interested in surround sound like object oriented surround sound. They just added 4K when Zack Snyder's Justice League came out and not everything is even in 4K. That's so funny. Yeah.
01:34:19
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it's It's so ridiculous, but the worst thing about Crave, and i I reiterate, I'll say this to the cows come home, Adrian. For some reason, I also that same day went to watch the movie Heat with Robert De Niro and Al Pacino. Okay. I go to watch that movie. I haven't seen it. It's a Michael Mann movie. Very, very popular, very well regarded.
01:34:42
Speaker
So go in to watch that. Heat starts playing in French, Adrian. It starts playing in French. And there's no way for me to get it to stop playing in French. There's no other option for languages. There's no English version. We live in Canada, right? buy A bilingual nation. That's fair, right? They only have the French version of Heat.
01:35:03
Speaker
Dude, I ran into this situation. I can't remember what, but I ran into that exact situation because they only have the distribution rights for the French dub of certain movies or even TV shows. How could that be? I don't know. I don't know the logic behind it. I think that's a mistake. I think they just didn't put both up. There's no way they have the distribution. It's ridiculous. How could they only have the distribution rights for that one version of the movie?
01:35:29
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I've no idea. First of all, who is listening to the French dub? Who's listening to the French dub of Keat? That's the question I have to ask. Probably French people. Probably people that speak French.
01:35:40
Speaker
No. I am not discriminatory. I don't care about whether you speak French or English or what language you speak. It's irrelevant. No one should listen to Dubb. It doesn't make any sense. The movie is made by... For live action. I'm an American man, right? He's an American guy. he He is a famous director. He directed these people in English. He directed Robert De Niro, one of the greatest greatest actors of our time. And somehow,
01:36:10
Speaker
You think that the French dub actor is going to be better? Who is thinking that? Just put subtitles on. There aren't even subtitles. You can't activate subtitles for this movie. It's absurd. Like the same thing. You know the movie Dream Scenario? You remember that movie? I watched that movie. No, I didn't. That's the Nicolas Cage one where he's in everyone's dreams. I just said you remember it and you said, no, I didn't. Is that the movie with Nicolas Cage where he's in everyone's dreams? So I think you do know what the movie is.
01:36:38
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But anyway, i ah last year I tried to watch Dream Scenario. Pretty good movie, pretty good movie, I liked it. I watched it, not on Crave. Turn it on Crave, it's in French.
01:36:51
Speaker
Couldn't watch it. They don't have the English version up. I was so close to canceling Crave. The only reason I didn't cancel Crave is because they have HBO's last week tonight. If they removed that show, I'm out. I'm done. It's ridiculous. I actually lowered the tier, right? I paid for like the $23 a month tier or whatever, which includes stars. Whatever. No, it just it doesn't have ads.
01:37:14
Speaker
There's no stars. $23 a month is no ads. The top tier one, it's the same price as almost HBO Max. That's what I'm saying. It's so expensive. It's so expensive. It's only 20 bucks. I just had it not long ago. To be fair, I bought a year. Sorry, I'm estimating. If you're saying it's 20 bucks, it's still expensive. Yeah. so like I bought a year subscription when it was on sale, so that's why I don't have it anymore. I was just like, there's nothing coming out that I really care about. There was the traders, but whatever.
01:37:41
Speaker
Yes, twenty two dollars a month. And that's crazy. And they had like a I think like a Black Friday or Boxing Day promo. Yeah, I was like get a year for I think it was like 120 bucks. I was like, OK, it's literally half off 10 bucks a month. So I think I picked that up. But I don't know. Whatever. Anyway, I was so close to canceling. I just didn't cancel because last week tonight literally starts mid month. It starts next week. So oh my God, are you kidding me? That really sucks.
01:38:10
Speaker
Do you have a VPN? I feel like last week tonight airs on YouTube. You can watch it on YouTube in the States. No? Am I crazy? It's an HBO show. I feel like I've watched some of it on on YouTube. Yeah, it's an episode from like four years ago. They want to they want to hype it up so you watch you watch the actual show.
01:38:30
Speaker
Okay, fair enough. fair i giving I believe you. I believe you. I'm not an HBO tonight, last week. Sorry, I worked up, okay? I worked up about Crave. I was so upset about it. The Creature Commander's thing really threw me off. And then when I tried to watch Heat, and you know what's crazy about it, I tried to watch Heat about six months ago, and I just ran out of time and I stopped watching it. It was in my Apple TV Plus up next, not Apple TV Plus, but my Apple TV has like an update feature where it shows me what's up next. And the neat thing about that feature is it pulls from all the various streaming services.
01:38:57
Speaker
So I was like, you know what, I got to finally get to to heat. Heat is in English in every capacity in the description and everything. Everything is in English. There's no notice of it being French at all in the entire thing. Until you start the movie, then it then it says tension instead of heat.
01:39:14
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it's The title comes up and it says tension and then it says starring or something. It uses English words to describe the actors while it's showing you the initial credits. The worst thing as well, heat doesn't, no one starts speaking in heat for like the first like five to 10 minutes. Oh. It's doing like this long, slow, like following people through, through like getting off a train and stuff like that. That's where the movie starts. But at two times speed next time.
01:39:39
Speaker
So I could figure out whether it's in French or I could just cancel the service. You should. I was so close again. I can't believe that they did they do this. It really is annoying. If anyone from Crave, no one is. No one's even listening to this podcast at all. But if anyone from Crave is listening to this podcast, fix your shit. By the way, that's why I know that it was not supposed to be in French is because the description is in English. There's no way that's supposed to be like that.
01:40:03
Speaker
No, they made a mistake. They clearly made a mistake and no one should listen to watch a movie in dub that French dub. It doesn't make any sense if it's made by an American team because you're you're missing the nuance in the in the actors in the direction. Do you not agree with that? Come on. No, I agree completely. I agree. You're looking at me like I'm crazy here. I'm just saying people will watch it regardless. Like I watch I watch anime dubbed all the time. But again, that's not live action. That's different. Often.
01:40:30
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For those anime movies or TV shows, they often hire competent actors to do the dub because they know that they're selling to a Western audience. We're selling to a small naat half like whatever third of than our nation in Quebec. Like that's what we're doing. It's interesting because I'm curious if because the Quebec French dub is probably different from the France French dub as well. This is the Quebec French dub. Yeah, I just this crazy thought that I saw media.
01:40:56
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Like I have no issue with it. you If you want to give a dub option, that's fine, but you need to give the English version first. And if you could just do the subtitles for the French side, that's better. i Again, there's no way, if I only spoke French and I couldn't understand English, which is also not likely in Quebec. But regardless, if you're trying to like make sure that you're following the bilingual laws in Canada, like there's no way I would not just watch it in English with French dub as evidenced by Squid Game. There's no way I was going to listen to it in dub. It would sounded a horrible.
01:41:26
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Yes. Yeah, it's like not even close anyway. Now move on. But yeah, that's that's my story. yeah That's my story. We've got one more thing to review, Adrian. OK. And it's a movie we watched together in theaters at the Cineplex. We talked about it. We alluded to it earlier in the movie is Companion, the 2025 movie companion starring Sophie Thatcher and and Jack Quaid. Adrian, I'll let you go first because I have I've I've spoken for 20 minutes about how Crave is terrible. So I'll let you go. Yeah, Stack TV also sucks just on the topic. $15 a month and you still give me ads? Three per episode, it's a 20 minute show. the that The ads are like fucking 30 seconds long. anyways So that's what Crave is. So I downgraded my Crave subscription. It's $15 per month and they give me ads.
01:42:14
Speaker
That's what it is. That's brutal. Yeah. Anyways. um So what am I talking about? Companion. pan We're talking about the movie companion. So I want to preface this. If you haven't seen the even the trailer for a companion, somehow you haven't watched the second trailer. Don't. Don't listen to this. I think you should just go watch the movie. Sure. Because I think the the trailer for companion actually spoils Quite a bit of the movie, unfortunately, um like like ah like a specific twist that that happens in the first third, I would say, of the movie. But it would have been kind of nice not to know. um And your fiance actually wasn't aware of it. So when it happened, she was like, oh, that's crazy. So again, if you don't care about spoilers, very light spoilers that were shown in the trailer, sure, watch it. But again, in my personal opinion, I think if you have any interest in watching this movie, just go watch it and then you can come back here.
01:43:13
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Yeah, Companion, I really liked it. I think this is a really fun movie. It's um you know a lighthearted horror comedy, um very well acted.
Companion Movie Review
01:43:26
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I think Sophie Thatcher is you know a a delight to watch in this. I think she has very human emotions, which is very interesting, while still kind of playing a muted version of a human, which is really interesting.
01:43:41
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um I think this movie touches on some very interesting, like what what is ah not not as deeply as many products do, but like kind of touches on like what what makes someone a a person.
01:43:54
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and um yeah you're you know it When you walk into the movie, it it essentially tells you, hey, like I'm Sophie Thatcher. i'm I met Jack Quaid. He's the love of my life. you know There's two days that I felt so good is when I met him and when I killed him. and then it kind of like goes from that point on. um But yeah, I thought this movie was really fun. I really enjoyed it. I think, you know, there is some um interesting twists and turns throughout the movie, including again, what's spoiled in the trailer and what's spoiled is it is that she's a sex bot, essentially a fuck bot, as I say in the movie, that um Jack Quaid jail breaks, and she kills someone.
01:44:37
Speaker
but because he he jail broke it. But then kind of finding out, oh, like why did he get to this point? Why did he decide to jailbreak her? What led us to this specific set of circumstances that's ultimately going to lead to her murdering him ah is, I think, very well done. And it builds a lot of suspense. And there's some you know really well-balanced, heartfelt moments. um you know I really liked most of the cast of characters, even the people that you don't like. I still liked watching.
01:45:04
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um And yeah, I don't know. I really enjoyed it. And I think it kind of all makes sense in the context of the tone of the movie. But, you know, after we came out of the movie, you were not so hot on it. You actually were, I would say, negative on this movie. So I'm more so curious what you have to say, Simon, and in broad strokes here.
01:45:28
Speaker
When I left the theater, I was ah was a steaming ball of defiance, Adrian. You were very positive. My fiance was very positive. I could tell you were positive. There was this aura around you. You're like, oh, this was this is great. This movie is good. It's fun. It's really fun. Now, I agree that it's fun, you see. Adrian, it is in some way, it is a bit like it's Ex Machina at home. You know what I'm saying? We have Ex Machina at home.
01:45:58
Speaker
is the is the situation. I find it's like a a discount X Mac. and Now X Mac is not a comedy at all, mind you. X Mac is a drama, but it deals with very similar themes actually. I don't know if you noticed, but it does actually deal with similar themes for sure. It's about AI in some capacity.
01:46:18
Speaker
What makes somebody human like the idea of a freedom of AI? What does that mean? Are these people are are is is an AI that's created in some capacity captive based on the way it's programmed things like that. Interesting. Cool. Okay. The point is, is that it pulls ideas from that, but maybe not deliberately. Sure. The problem with the movie is not that though. I feel like it's not a very deep movie in the same way that you talked about Wolfman being again, the characters.
01:46:48
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Are there to, you know, for us as an audience, they don't live in that world. There's no, the realistic aspects of it. There's better production design potentially in this movie. And I felt like actually it was kind of oozing with style a little bit. the The music choices, the shot composition, that part of it, the direction in that regard was actually kind of good. Yeah. The color palette in this movie is also really good too. Very good. A lot of bright colors. Yeah.
01:47:13
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entertaining in a lot of ways. ah The comedy is quite good. I enjoyed that. Very cool. But first of all, the trailer trailer spoiled the movie is is a thing you said already. And we're spoiling it here based on the trailer, I guess. that's that's We're getting to those points because it kind of it's it's the way it is. they I don't know why they felt like they had to market it that way, though. A little weird because they had not done that. I feel like it could have been a better movie in some way. But that's not my issue with the movie. The movie is riddled with a plot holes.
01:47:43
Speaker
And I'd said that when we came out of the theater. There were so many plot holes that I couldn't believe it. And we're not going to do a spoiler cast review review discussion for this particular movie. We're not going to do a closer look. But there are so many glaring plot holes that I was shocked how many there are. The movie is campy. I agree with you. You said that coming out of the theater. I agree. But the problem with it is that it's not campy enough that it's just a ridiculous mess. Like, for instance, I often give this example, The Meg. The movie The Meg.
01:48:12
Speaker
It's an okay movie, but it kind of takes itself a little too much, too seriously. But the Meg, the Trish, Adrian, the Meg 2, the Meg 2 specifically, the movie with Jason, they're both Jason Statham movies where he's fighting off a giant shark.
01:48:25
Speaker
Megalodon shark. And so, spoiler alert, I'm kidding. That's not a spoiler. But he's fighting off the shark. The second movie completely embraces its its campiness. It embraces its ridiculousness. And it it just does ridiculous things within that world to the point where the physics in that world and the science behind that world just doesn't matter anymore. The details and the way the science works, the way the world works, even the way that the police work and various other elements work, the way the humans work,
01:48:52
Speaker
Human beings don't act normal at all. They just don't react to people like getting killed and murdered. There's like there's ah reactions, but they're so muted. like they're Everyone's a sociopath, which just isn't true. like it's just it It's just, to me, plot hole city in every way, and I feel like this is the writing, not anything else.
01:49:12
Speaker
I have a list. I literally wrote it down. There's so many points I can make. There are so many problems throughout this movie. It is one of the most plot-holy movies I've ever seen. And it's crazy. I look at letterbox scores. They're so high. Rotten Tomatoes, so high. Everyone loves this movie. I don't love it. I think it's a two and a half out of five. I can't live that down. That's just me.
01:49:30
Speaker
I can't, i to me, two and a half out of five to me is on the edge. It's on the cusp of being bad, cusp of being good. Did I enjoy it? Was it entertaining? Sure, it was very comedic. there's certain there's a there's ah there's a There's a joke about, there's a joke, especially rue Rupert Friend's character is just a fun, it's just, he's well acted. His character is very interesting. um But there's just this one joke with him that I thought was so good. I did laugh out loud. There was lots of moments that I laughed out loud. It was good.
01:50:00
Speaker
In that regard, but it's just, I do not abide a bad narrative. I just cannot accept. If you do not live within the laws of your world, you created this universe. You created it. It's your science fiction tale to tell. If you do not abide by laws of your own universe, you have failed as a screenwriter. You have to live by those laws.
01:50:21
Speaker
Like there's literally it's a spot in the trailer. I'm not going to say what happens because it will spoil what actually happens later, but it is something that's shown in the trailer that is happening on screen in the trailer. And they do not follow through with that exact thing, which is a major plot point.
01:50:36
Speaker
later on in the movie, despite building that up and foreshadowing that that would be something that would be a part of the plot. And it's such a major plot point that it's impossible to ignore. And that is just, I can't accept it. So that that that was my issue. And it's, again, it is using with style. There's lots of really cool things. Sophie Thatcher is excellent. I completely agree. She's the standout performance. She was great in Heretic as well, the movie with Hugh Grant. She's great.
01:51:01
Speaker
Awesome. Great performance. Nothing against her. Honestly, nothing against the actors. I don't think it has anything to do with them. I think the writing just doesn't have them be have emotions. wait I think when you left the theater, you also said that the characters act like they would. I'm like, no, they don't. like No one is acting like human beings. I would not act like that in that situation at all. and there's I don't know anyone that would potentially act like that.
01:51:24
Speaker
There is one guy in the plot that I can see why he acts a certain way, that's fine, but the rest of them? No. There is issues and they're just not making realistic decisions. Now, you could chalk it up to stupidity, but this is not a stupidity question. Like, you look at some of the alien movies, some of the people in these alien movies are... Really dumb. They don't have any intelligence, despite the fact that they really shouldn't have a level. Oh, here's a new planet. I'm taking off this helmet.
01:51:49
Speaker
Oh, there's a spores on the ground. No spoilers for alien movies here. No spoilers for alien movies. Let me step on the spores and breathe it in. I wonder what's the worst thing that can happen on this spores planet. What's the worst thing that can happen in this unknown environment? On the science perspective too, the way the AI works and the way the bots work, there's some problems there in the way that it's written there too. They make a flipping joke about
01:52:19
Speaker
ah about the app that controls the bots at one point I'm just like this just doesn't make sense it just doesn't make sense because this is a more advanced version of our world so you created a more advanced universe you can't be going you can't be regressing in certain ways because you you they yeah I don't know I can't it's too vague for me to really get into in in a deeper way I guess but Yeah, honestly, we we have this is the we have X Mac in at home. This is x this is literally dick's discount X Mac. It's just this this thing. yeah The reason why I'm saying this, I'll explain it to you. I see your face. The reason I'm saying this is because the way X Mac in is detailed is the same way in Nora is detailed. Everything that but specifically ah was built in that movie is detailed. It's thought out. it's Movies should be thought out. They shouldn't just be frivolous.
01:53:06
Speaker
I know you like this idea of Jurassic World, just be fun and that's okay. I don't agree. Some of the Jurassic World movies are not good because they just don't follow the rules of their world and that's an issue. Jurassic World follows them largely and so that's why it's an okay movie. Same with Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park especially, by far the best version of the Jurassic. Oh, I agree completely because I think it balances both fun and intrigue, right? like And accuracy.
01:53:31
Speaker
It follows a science. Steven Spielberg put effort into making sure that it felt like it was could be a real thing. Making it feel relatable is useful. Yeah, I just don't think companions go in for the same tone or or even the same message as um Ex Machina is so like that's why I just like I wholeheartedly disagree. Yeah, they're cool. They're robots in it and like AI but that's really it like it's and I guess like and you know, I guess questioning like oh like yeah oh What what does it mean to be like human and that's really that's I guess the two connections But that's not really the focus. I think this movie is focused on entertainment Ultimately, like it's it's a fun over-the-top movie some some hyper violence so a secret invasion think I
01:54:14
Speaker
Yeah, but that's not entertaining. That's the issue. is like and Secret Invasion is objectively bad, not only in in its writing, but to tonally, it's not fun. Whereas this movie, I think it dives into that fun tone. It wants you to be entertained. It wants you to have a good time. And that's exactly what I had with this. But so did Barbarian. I'm not looking for... Barbarian advertising this movie as being yeah the the great child of the Barbarian creators.
01:54:41
Speaker
just like That's not the barbarians well thought out there. I don't have an issue with barbarians act the actor the characters don't make any choices in this movie that makes sense Cuz they're not they don't react to things. They're like they're I don't know. yeah Again, I think you're just shutting off that idea. You're just like, this was fun and I don't care, but it's like i don't thats I just can't look at any movie ever like that. I just i never look at movies like that. It's impossible. If your narrative is broken on ah on a plot hole perspective, it's not possible for me to be like, yeah, it's fine.
01:55:17
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like I don't know. It's it's interesting. like I don't necessarily agree with you on the plot hole aspect either. like I know you mentioned a couple of the points to me, and like you know thinking back, it's like I just don't necessarily think those are plot holes. I think they set up- That one plot hole is such a plot hole. This is the biggest plot hole I've seen in like five years. yeah There's no bigger plot hole than that. Yeah, again, they- It's in the trailer, but they touch on it.
01:55:40
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They do touch on it. They don't touch on it. It's a major point. They drop a couple lines. Again, it's tough to talk about this without actually diving into spoilers, but again, in my mind, when specific things did or didn't happen, I feel like they do touch on it briefly, at least with a line or two of dialogue to kind of make you understand it. No, they did not. I'm talking about a phone call. I'm talking about a specific phone call. No, they do not touch on it. They talk about where they're located.
01:56:10
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And because of that and like how far they are from everything. I touch on it. I do agree. But again, it's I think it fits within the context of the world as well. um But I do get again, I get where you're coming from. i and I understand what you're pointing out in those plot holes. I just can get past them because I just don't think they are plot holes in the context of the movie. How? Yeah.
01:56:34
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What kind of universe do you live in that like in terms of like in our world that that would happen in real in our world. But again, this isn't our world like it's a like it's a different world tonally. It's a different world where they are technologically is a different world. I disagree. That's our world in almost every way, except it's just a little bit more technologically advanced. Yeah, but what because of that, it's different. And again, like the way again, I think just the different in a worse way and ah it's completely dysfunctional, like the world doesn't work at all.
01:57:02
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Dude, the world. Society doesn't operate is what you're saying. It's completely the world barely works right now. Look, look, look at that. Not like that. I still don't know if you know what I'm even referencing is a plot. I know what you're referencing. I know what you're referencing. I just said it with a Nora. The plot needs to be needs to dictate the action. Does the plot dictate the action? No, the plot does not dictate the action. This movie is just like frivolous comedy and and action, but it has no has no bearing on reality. I don't feel like I can relate to the characters because they they They just do things that are not characteristics of human beings that I am aware of in my world. And the world is a mirror of ours.
01:57:41
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So that's kind of where I'm at. I get what you're saying. I know why you like the comedy aspect. I get you like this frivolous good time, the escapism of it. But escapism for me always has to be rude. I don't need to relate to these characters. At least for me. I mean, you kind of talked about this in other movies we've watched. You've talked about how when characters are completely unlikable, when you don't like any characters, you don't like the movie. That's what you've said. Yeah, but I think tone has a lot to do with it as well.
01:58:10
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And I mean, I did bring that up for like platonic as well. But again, like I think yeah in this movie, like, yeah, like the. Again, I still liked watching these characters. like they were It wasn't like I was frustrated watching them. I'm like, oh, these guys are are kind of shitty. But it's still like fun to watch. And again, the comedy, I think, outweighs them being bad. Whereas in Platonic is a show that's meant to be a comedy, and it's just not good. I'm not saying it's a two out of five. It's two and a half. It's like on the fence. Two and a half, maybe. Oh, whoa, whoa. You're on the cuffs. When you rate Wolfman, did you rate Wolfman two and a half as well? Yeah, but for different reasons.
01:58:43
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Yeah, fair enough. Touche, touche. There's plot holes in Wolfman, but they're not like it's not like glaring. They're obviously because the characters are so stupid. They just make dumb decisions. But I don't think so. Wolfman takes it too seriously as well. That's the problem with it. doesn't That's why I was questioning whether it's a three or a five. Don was saying that yeah just make it a three.
01:59:06
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Because I asked her, I'm like, should I say it's a three? And she's like, yeah, say it's a three. I mean, at the end of the day, it like, your like your opinion is valid. Like you, you know, like i I get where you're coming from. I disagree with it. Like on a personal level, like I don't value those things as highly as you do. But you admit it's a bottle.
01:59:25
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we had ah We had a brief break and we came back, just for the audience to understand. We talked to one of us for a brief second. The one thing. The phone call thing. that's But the phone call thing is related to another piece of it, though. You have to understand, like near the end of the movie, it's also related. There's also another problem. They just they just stack up. busy the end here's the Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the last thing I'm going to say about companion, okay? Okay. Please. Please. And then I'll move on. Please. Companion.
01:59:52
Speaker
You're my companion. It didn't have to be bad. The mistake they made is so amateurish. It's like, what, did they film the scene and couldn't do reshoots? Why would they do that? It's a question I'm asking. the The point I'm making is like, mo the plot, the other plot holes aren't as bad, but there's like, a this is the point I i was making about Anora. There's an attention to detail that makes me feel like I am there. That's a comedy too. Yeah.
02:00:18
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OK, it's a different kind of comedy. Perhaps this is obviously more campy and companion. But yeah, that's the idea is like i I like feeling related to these characters. I'm not I'm not a sex worker. like I don't relate to her. Like I relate to her on a human level. Yeah, you're not a sex worker. Give me those eyes.
02:00:33
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You're not. but you didn't like that's That's kind of where I'm coming from in this. is that that's It's the detail, and the devil's in the detail, but also the devil's sewn on in the detail here. The devil was in the detail in the cinematography, the color palette as you described, the things people are wearing.
02:00:50
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The really, really funny painting that's covering a wall in one of the shots that do they just show in the background. It's not even so even ah really addressed by the character. There's really great things like Rupert Friend's character is ridiculous haircut. It's like there's just these awesome pieces, but why is the detail so specific there and so great? And then the rest of it, it's like, oh, we don't really care though about that. Like the plot?
02:01:18
Speaker
Like, I don't really understand. Like, if you had just changed that detail, the movie would be like a four for me. Out of five. But because you don't really care about the main thing that a movie is, which is the plot, I can't help you. I can't like it. But again, you're not in the minority.
02:01:38
Speaker
I am. yeah Everyone agrees with you. If you look online, no one agrees with me. I try to look up like plot holes in this movie. People don't even mention it. I'm like, how can you not be mentioning this obvious thing? It's in the trailer. it's There's too much screen time even used up for this aspect that I'm referring to. So that's it. That's all I'm going to say. yeah um We were resolved. We talked on the phone before we started this, and we said we would do ah review scores.
02:02:06
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just for the the heck of it, um which would be a fun thing. They're really, they're going to be like, they're almost like in in the moment review scores. I would say they're in the moment, and like ATM review scores, you know? We're not, we're not, because my review scores change all the time in letterbox based on what I've been watching recently. the current's It's your current bank account balance.
02:02:28
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. My current bank account balance for this movie. I almost want to say it is a three. I've been balancing this for the whole day. I've been thinking about this for two days. I'm like, is it a three? Is it a two and a half? But I'll get let you score it and then I'll then I'll get influenced by what you say. yeah So just real quick, son like I understand that you're rating it for different reasons. But to to say this movie is on the same level of Wolfman is in my personal opinion preposterous. So if you don't rate this movie a three, then you better fucking drop Wolfman. You better go in the letterbox and drop Wolfman down, because that drives me insane. But for for me, I would say this is a four. like It's a four for me. it's It's a fun time. I just really enjoyed it. It's a good romp. These are the kind of movies I really like. Just a good time. It's entertaining. Every once in a while, I wanted an Inora, which is an Oscar-nominated Best Picture movie starring two Oscar-nominated actors. And an Oscar-nominated director.
02:03:25
Speaker
and Oscar nominated directors. it's It's great, you know, and then sometimes I just want to watch Sophie Thatcher kill some people. I do. I do. I do what you mean. My question is, is it the campiness of the Meg two, you know, but it's got more. I watch Meg two.
02:03:44
Speaker
Oh, yeah. That's wild. That's your type of movie. No, I'm not recommending it to you. So I was going to watch Meg too, but then I heard that they didn't go as deep into the campiness as as what? It's the opposite. It's more campy. It's crazier. I watched them almost back to back, I think, because Don likes these types of crazy movies, especially movies with giant monsters. He likes giant monsters like the Kaiju and the yeah Jurassic Park monsters and like Rampage starring Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
02:04:15
Speaker
What would you have rated Wolfman? Maybe like a two point five as well. Like I feel like woman, it's it was middling. Like it's not like I again, I think we talked about it. Like I wish it was a worse movie so I can make fun of it more. But it was just bland. It was just a it was just a movie. Well, man, it was just not just a sin in and of itself. Yeah. So technically Wolfman's a zero then on my scale. It's the worst. So so so two point five equals zero.
02:04:42
Speaker
And a 2 is a better than a 2.5 sometimes. Okay. But a 2.5 is always the worst. The reason I want to do this skill is because I want to be able to do, when we do closer look episodes or in-depth episodes, the review episodes, it would be nice to go back to them and then if you go to the, because I'm going to time stamp the review scores, and then you can kind of go and check and then it'll show you.
02:05:02
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There's also like a relationship between, because Rotten Tomatoes is always going to probably exist. is that You can kind of go to Rotten Tomatoes and look at our score versus that score like if you're going back in time and just like reminiscing about the good old days of our podcast recordings.
Media Review Scores Debate
02:05:15
Speaker
Should we make a website called Rotten Potatoes? Do you think we'd be- Did we get away with that? Yeah. Rotten potatoes. And the reviews are just our reviews. It's like a review aggregate. So it's like, it's either 0%, 50%, or 100% every single move because it's just a two. Right. So the other thing we talked about, and I want to mention this actually, because this this is actually something I feel like is worth mentioning. The reason I also wanted to do this is because the way we did the review scores previously is we reviewed, we each reviewed it out of five, and then we added the score up together to get it out of 10.
02:05:47
Speaker
yeah and there's a good i like I don't find a lot of websites do that and I i think that it's kind of annoying and I think that it's most annoying because we talked about IGN's review of The Penguin Show from HBO and how that was a 5 out of 10 for the overall show, but there are multiple episodes that have an 8 or a 7.
02:06:05
Speaker
How could that be a five then? It's because one person reviewed the whole season and one and there's multiple different people that reviewed the various episodes. That is so stupid. I can't believe that they don't understand that they could just come together and decide on the review score, but they didn't. And I don't know. I can't make them do that. Obviously, I don't work at IGN. Remember that penguin five, the penguin five out of 10.
02:06:27
Speaker
You're a chump. You're a chump. It's absurd because it's also, I think it's a 90, right? Or an 89% of rotten tomatoes right now. Did they just not want to just be unique so they can get clicks? I think that's what the point you made. They're chumps.
02:06:40
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know about that, but I find it really, I feel it might be disingenuous. Like I don't, I don't understand how you can give it a five. They give it a six maybe. If you're a chump, that's how Simon. Every episode of that show felt like it, it left me on the edge of my seat. There were, I kept wondering how is Oz like Oswald Cobb gonna get out of these situations like how's the penguin get I don't I kept wondering every episode I'm like he's screwed now every time and then at the next episode he somehow gets out of it he's just it's incredible it's a great show that shows amazing I don't know what people would possibly see negative in it personally I mean I don't know it seems pretty stupid now now you got me on the spot you you kind of threatened my livelihood
02:07:22
Speaker
of my own brain, my my yeah my mental livelihood. I'll kill your brain. This idea that I shouldn't give it a two and a half or should give it a three. I was entertained. got it You got to take that into consideration. like did yes I was entertained. I know, I know, I know. I know. You got it. You got it. Was Wolfman two and a half ah two and a half or a two?
02:07:48
Speaker
Again, if you rate companion two and a half Wolfman, you know what? Fine. I'll do it for you. You know what? It was good enough. I'll give it a three. I'll give it a three. It was entertaining. Just honestly, 100% potatoes. We're just going to have our first 100% on our hit website. Potatoes. What about 100% anyway? Two and a half plus five plus four is.
02:08:14
Speaker
We got our first 100% on Rotten Potatoes anyways, regardless of our score. Yes. Welcome to Rotten Potatoes. I could have given it 0.5 less, and then it would have been rotten. Or no, no, I guess it would have been one less than 2.5. Yeah, it would have to be one less. I'm running out of time. I'm doing, you know what? i I appreciate what you've said here. I don't think you've convinced me of anything, but regardless of that, that's fair. It was good enough. so i actually do The music was good. The music was good. No, you, you convinced me. You do convince me. I'm a little, I'm all stubborn, but you've convinced me to watch various things and play. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's why I didn't convince you that the plot will exist. Yeah.
02:08:54
Speaker
I kind of convinced you in the in the interim where the audience wasn't listening to us. So you're coming from that one plot hole, but the other plot holes you weren't interested. Like, shut up. You said to me, shut up, you asshole. That's what you said. You fucking bitch. That's what I'll fucking kill you is what I said. Yeah, that's good. There's this there's that one line that's um unbelievable and Deadpool and Wolverine.
02:09:21
Speaker
That I just think about that often. I've seen the clips of that line. I'm sure a lot of people have had that spoiled for them. And we have to they even if they haven't seen the pool Wolverine. But one particular actor says this like ridiculous diatribe of a like yeah basically just, you know, I'm talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
02:09:38
Speaker
Yeah who' you understand for me going i all and you' like yeah yeah that one how but ah he and that That exact line that hit line from Deadpool and Wolverine it's certainly on the web We can't spoil it. We can't spoil it here. We don't spoil things on this podcast. Okay, Adrian. It's time to move on This is this I'm wondering how long this episode is gonna be. Are we gonna be last week? I have to pee though Oh, you don't want me to do the... Okay. Oh, you want to do the opening and then I go pee? No, no, get out of here. Go pee. Get out of here. Now there's going to be a weird cut here where you just go pee and then return. because Yeah, that's that's fine. Just include... Yeah. I'm a lazy... Did you mark it in the calendar? What's that? you Did you mark it? Did you mark it in the notes? I'm going to mark it. Footnote, pee pee time. Yeah, tiny butt man takes pee. Yes.
02:10:33
Speaker
All right, get out of here, Tiny Buttman. Get out of here.
02:10:43
Speaker
Right. ha Tiny Buttman returns. Tiny Buttman's back after pissing. The toilet. All right.
News Stories and Netflix Analysis
02:10:51
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Now on to the montage, a sequence of our show in which I briefly present seven of the week's smaller news stories as Adrian delivers a brisk verdict.
02:10:59
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Number one, according to Deadline, Juno and Beyond Two Souls actor, Elliot Page's production company Pageboy, has acquired the rights from game developer Quantic Dream to develop a TV series adaptation for the Willem Dafoe starring video game Beyond Two Souls. Wow, that's interesting. It's a pretty good game. I enjoyed playing it through. Back on the PS3.
02:11:23
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2. As publication deadline has reported, The Blacklist star Ulrich Thompson has been cast as the villain Sinestro alongside Game Night actor Kyle Chandler's Hal Jordan and Mufasa actor Aaron Pierre.
02:11:39
Speaker
and HBO's DC Universe TV series Lanterns. 3.
02:11:47
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number three According to Deadline, the Peter Dinklage Starring Toxic Avenger film reboot will launch on Labor Day weekend in September. didn't this i ah goodness this movie came out like a year ago did't not this movie not come out no am i crazy 4. According to entertainment website IGN, a movie adaptation of the action video game Sleeping Dogs is in the works and Shang-Chi actor Simu Liu is attached to star as protagonist Wei Shen.
02:12:18
Speaker
wow i've i've played this game actually simon on the xbox three sixty sleeping dogs it's really good actually really good it's cool Number five, as Deadline reports, a Buffy the Vampire Slayer revival TV series is very close to receiving a pilot order from Disney's Hulu streaming service, with Nomadland director Chloe Zhao directing and actor Sarah Michelle Geller to reprise her role as Buffy. Reportedly, Buffy creator Joss Whedon will not be involved. Oh my God, this is this is something I don't give a fuck about. i will I'll be honest with you.
02:12:53
Speaker
Number 6 As reported by Deadline, House of the Dragon actor Reese Ifins has been cast in a starring role for Apple TV Plus's For All Mankind spin-off Star City, a series set to explore For All Mankind's space race alternative history from the perspective of Russia's Soviet space program.
02:13:13
Speaker
Oh, interesting. I got to watch For All Mankind. I got to watch it. I'll get around to it at one point in the in in in time. Number seven. According to a February 1st filed lawsuit, the Superman estate is suing to stop the James Gunn directed Superman legacy movie from releasing in the UK, Ireland, Australia and Canada. That's where we live. Due to a territory connected rights dispute. Simon, we live in Canada.
02:13:41
Speaker
We wouldn't get this movie, we live there! What what are we gonna do? Are we gonna drive to the United States? Are we gonna drive to Buffalo? The Niagara border of Buffalo? And go into a theater in Buffalo? but we could get Maybe we could get Olive Garden, because I've never had Olive Garden prior to the to watching this movie and in Buffalo.
02:14:00
Speaker
When you go to Chili's after the movie and get the triple dipper thing, I actually went to Chili's once. I was gonna go to Olive Garden in the United States, but there was a long wait, and then there was a Chili's right next to the Olive Garden, so we went to the Chili's. It was really good, because they had this chicken tortilla soup. That was actually really good. It was real good, Simon. And then, yeah, and there was this lunch special that we went for. And then, I forget what it got. But it was good, it was good. And I think there was a case of D involved.
02:14:31
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Is that all? Okay, good. and I'm glad you understand the the definition of brisk verdict. And that concludes the montage.
02:14:44
Speaker
Okay. Buffalo? Buffalo? Okay. Go, man. All right, cool. I just realized I don't know why I didn't put Aaron Pierre. Aaron Pierre is playing the other Green Lantern. I wrote down that Hal Jordan is being played by Kyle Chandler, who I like quite a bit. But Aaron Pierre, shoot, he's playing the other Green Lantern. I think he's the star. i don't why Why the heck I left his rule out? Because you're a racist, I think. Don't do that. don't We're bringing it back. We're bringing it back from the start of the episode. Aaron Pierre is old, apparently.
02:15:23
Speaker
I think I remember him in old. Do you remember old? what um What a movie. Unfortunately, unfortunately I remember old. What a movie. Oh my god, we're on a beach. Oh my god. John Stewart. How can I even forget that? The Daily Show is John Stewart. Anyway, yeah, he's playing John Stewart.
02:15:41
Speaker
that's That show looks pretty good. I'm excited about The Lantern Show. I'm excited for it, especially because you like Creature Commandos that much and Creature Commandos is really well well reviewed. um I don't know. I feel like James Gunn's DC Universe is going to be off to a potential good start. and unless we don't get it and Unless we don't get the first live action movie in Canada, which would be yeah pretty terrible. Peacemaker season two is this year, is it not?
02:16:06
Speaker
Ooh, is it? It must. It must be. I feel like they did the what's coming in 2025 and Peacemaker season two is upon that list. If it is, I don't know why I didn't make that one of my honorary mentions for things I'm looking forward to because I loved Peacemaker season one. I thought it was great. I think the intro is probably the one of the greatest interest to any TV show ever. It's ah August 2025, according to Wikipedia, which is a top site for me. Oh, well, good for you.
02:16:35
Speaker
Good for you. All right. Now to get to the topic of the show for episode 103. A streamer spotlight for the most successful streaming service that there is, Adrian. Quibby's. Uh-oh. It's not something. Yeah. Everything's safe. Not, not Quibi. Thank you though. Not QuickBytes, but Netflix. We'll take a small look at Netflix as a company and examine the 2025 slate of film and TV originals coming to Netflix this year. Are you ready?
02:17:06
Speaker
Yes. Are you drinking vodka or something? What are you making that face while you're drinking? It's not vodka. Is it not tasty? No, it's apple. Oh, apple juice. Yeah. Apple vodka. Yeah, green apple vodka. I'd rather kill myself, Simon. When I go to Chuck's Roadhouse, and I don't want to drink, and I don't want to have like a beer, because you have to buy a drink with your half-praised appetizers after 9 PM Eastern Standard Time. Correct. Yeah.
02:17:33
Speaker
and Sometimes I order an apple juice instead of having a beer. And one guy, he like scoffed. He was like an apple juice. I was like, fuck you. The waiter or somebody you were with at the table? No, the waiter is he's a dickhead waiter. We haven't had him in a while. I hope he said one guy like I was going to know which guy you're talking about. I don't know. OK, the waiter guy.
02:18:00
Speaker
It's like a waiter guy getting an apple juice. I'm like, yeah, you fucking bitch. Give my apple juice. They're not. From my experience with Chuck's Roadhouse, I must say I haven't had the greatest experience with service.
02:18:13
Speaker
That's fair, but it's like 50, 50 chance. Like sometimes it's OK. Sometimes it's not good. Yeah, that's what I find, which is unfortunate. fifty Anyway, all right. Talk back to Netflix. All right. Here we go. Here we go. You ready? You ready? Yeah.
02:18:30
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Excellent. Netflix has come a very long way from its roots as a DVD-by-mail service that was founded by Reed Hastings and Mark Randolph in 1997. Today, Netflix is by far the largest subscription-based video streaming service with a whopping 302 million subscribers worldwide as announced on their January earnings presentation. For reference, the second most popular streaming service is Amazon Prime, which is estimated to have just over 200 million subscribers.
02:18:56
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As publication The Hollywood Reporter reported on January 21, Netflix added a record number of subscribers in its fourth quarter of 2024, with an incredible 19 million subscribers joining the streaming giant between October 1 and December 31, 2024. In fact,
02:19:14
Speaker
This marks a record number of subscribers added for any quarter since the company's inception. It is interesting to see how Netflix has transformed itself post-COVID. In 2020, the company announced that they would no longer be cash flow negative going forward, after being notoriously known for taking on debt to fuel their ever-growing library of premium content.
02:19:35
Speaker
With that in mind, they did exactly that in the fourth quarter of 2024 by earning $10.2 billion dollars in revenue and $2.3 billion dollars in profit, despite spending $17 billion dollars on content in 2024. How does that math math? that's crazy They intend to spend a gigantic $18 billion dollars on content in 2025. In recent years, Netflix has really diversified their portfolio of content with their addition of video games to the service in 2021 and their more recent push to host incredibly popular live live events such as the in-demand Mike Tyson Jake Paul boxing match last year.
02:20:15
Speaker
They also cracked down on out-of-household account password sharing in 2023, which was deemed by the company as a clear success story as evidenced by the increase in subscriber numbers in late 2023. Days after the earnings presentation, Netflix looked to the future by announcing their slate of film and TV releases for 2025. On the film side of things, we have animated movie, The Witcher, Sirens of the Deep, starring Geralt of Rivia video game actor, Doug Cockle, launching on February 11th, I knew you were going to laugh. but I knew it. but launching on He's a real guy, and he's a great voice actor, launching on February 11th. On March 7th, the Russo Brothers directed science fiction film, The Electric State, premieres, a film that consists of a star-studded cast that includes Millie Bobby Brown, Chris Pratt, and Ki Hui Kwon.
02:21:04
Speaker
The Charlize Theron-starring action movie The Old Guard 2 releases on July 2nd, horror movie sequel Fear Street, Prom Queen is planned for a summer release, and director Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein movie starring Oscar Isaac is planned for a November release date. Then we have director Ryan Johnson's upcoming Daniel Craig-starring Knives Out sequel Wake Up Dead Man, A Knives Out Mystery, and the Matt Damon Ben Affleck-starring Miami crime drama R.I.P.
02:21:34
Speaker
actually RIP, I believe, both arriving sometime in the fall. Lastly, the much-anticipated Adam Sandler-starring golf comedy Happy Gilmore 2 is undated but set to release sometime in 2025. On the TV side of things, Karate Kid series Cobra Kai Season 6 Part 3 is set for a February 13th release date and a Robert De Niro thriller series called Zero Day arrives February 20th. Plus, the Devil May Cry video game series is getting an animated TV series adapted from it that launches on April 3rd, the Penn Badgley-starring final season of Thriller Series U premieres on April 24th, and Season 3 of the incredibly popular South Korean series Squid Game launches on June 27th.
02:22:16
Speaker
Additionally, science fiction series Black Mirror season 7, Neil Gaiman's The Sandman season 2, The Witcher season 4 starring Liam Hemsworth, a crime drama series starring and directed by Ozark's Jason Bateman called Black Rabbit, the much anticipated season 2 for Tim Burton's Wednesday series, and the incredibly hyped up final season of Stranger Things have all been and announced to be coming out in 2025 but don't have official release dates just yet.
02:22:43
Speaker
Finally, I would be remiss if I did not mention that Netflix has increased their various subscription tier prices again in the United States, Canada, Argentina, and Portugal. These new prices went into effect on January 28th. For reference, the Canadian 4K supported top tier subscription plan is now $23.99 from its previous price of $20.99 Canadian.
02:23:07
Speaker
In the United States, the 4K tier is now whopping twenty four dollars a.99 American from its previous $22.99 per month price tag. The last time Netflix increased their prices was less than two years ago at the end of 2023. Adrian, there's a lot here, yeah a lot to potentially unpack perhaps.
02:23:32
Speaker
the I guess the main news is really their financials. and They seem to be doing very well, very well. But there's the, I feel like the more germane to our show topic of what's coming out and are you excited for it? But I guess you can just, let's talk about the numbers first to get that out of the way and then we can talk about ah what you're excited for potentially. Yeah, like the the the price increase.
02:23:56
Speaker
numbers or do you mean like the numbers? I was just thinking like, I don't know if you have anything to say about the fact that they had, they actually gained the most subscribers they've ever gained in this quarter. It's weird, man. Like what can, other than squid game, what came out? The alive events. Oh shit. WWE NFL that stands for national football league. And the boxing match between Jake, between Paul and Mike Tyson, an actual rapist, Mike Tyson. Yeah.
02:24:25
Speaker
The NFL thing for sure is something. And then, yeah, yeah the WWE e is a huge contract too. So there's a there's a lot there for people to subscribe for. yeah but But yeah, let's get in, you're right. that's Let's get into the, that's a good point. Like all of this is kind of mired a little bit by the fact that they obviously increased the prices in both Canada and new in US. s Keep in mind that that Canada,
02:24:54
Speaker
It's cheaper. It's somehow cheaper, and it's not only cheaper because the Canadian dollar is less, but we also see it being cheaper because it's just less dollars. like yeah It's funny that the American price is more, but you know it's interesting. When you look at the market for like retail stuff, just goods, like electronics, et cetera, all of these companies that decide on the price based on what they think they can do in the market, based on what they think the trends are and what they think they can afford.
02:25:22
Speaker
And it's easier than a retail environment because people can kind of cross the border from the US to Canada or the Canada to the US to buy something, whereas you can't really do that with IP addresses unless you're really dedicated to VPN, which they might have discovered discovered is actually not a big thing for them because they can kind of block VPNs in a certain way. So I think that really this is a true indicator that they think there's more of an appetite for a price increase in the US than in Canada. That's what I believe it means, personally.
02:25:49
Speaker
Yeah. But it's crazy that it's it's considerably more expensive in the U.S. because it's more American dollars than it is Canadian dollars, which is nuts. But I think it's ridiculous.
02:26:02
Speaker
I personally just think it's ridiculous that it's that expensive in general. I don't care which which nation we're talking about. It's too much money. I think that that's ridiculous. I think without password sharing, it becomes not valuable to me. I recently canceled Netflix. I think I might have said that on an episode 102. I'm of the mind that it's not like I'm saying I don't like Netflix. I like their content generally. I also find that though that it is a bit diluted, my issue is It's a bit diluted with a lot of crap. they ah They launch good stuff every year. That's awesome. That's great. But I'd rather just jump in and watch what you know was popular at the time, potentially, or what's coming out, or maybe a wait and for for something to completely release. And then, although they usually just release their shows right away, which is nice. yeah Yeah. Unlike the week-to-week coverage from like Apple TV or Amazon in some cases.
02:26:48
Speaker
But I just find that it's just easier to only pay for half the year because you can just cancel, come back, cancel, come back. I don't know if I've talked to you about this previously, but there when you cancel, come back, cancel, come back, they they claim that your comeback date, like the day you came back to the service is actually the date you're you've been a member since. It says member since and then gives you the date. So as as much as we we initially initialized our Netflix account, I think it was in 2012,
02:27:17
Speaker
2010 something like that and originally doesn't matter they believe that I was that that my I was a member since the day I I really knew renew and I find that hilarious cuz I feel like that's a slight on purpose because they're like well you didn't you left us but for me it reminds me of certain jobs I've had where I've left and come back and they don't give me the the benefits that I've had before. and and I'm just thinking, like don't you want to retain me more? I don't really understand. like Wouldn't you want to honor the fact that I did pay for 10 years for your service and they only started canceling come back coming in in came coming back because of the fact
02:27:55
Speaker
that you've removed the the family sharing. I'm not doing it as a protest. It's not a protest. I just, I kept it because I could share it with my family and there was more value because there was more people benefiting from the service. Checking the actual logs of people who logged into Netflix on my account, they they were actually not logging in very frequently. Like a lot of my family just didn't log in that frequently. So they you're not losing anything. You're just kind of losing me. But then again, clearly,
02:28:25
Speaker
This password sharing thing helped. Yeah, it helped them. yeah So I'm wrong. I'm in the minority. We complained about this a lot, if I recall correctly, on our podcast years ago. But but yeah, clearly. Yeah, I think it's preposterous. It's it's it's too much money. I think that the the general cost of honestly anything is crazy. And again, not to bring up video games or anything like that. But you you think about ah subscription services. I have this note.
02:28:54
Speaker
good yeah Oh, OK. Yeah, you think about subscription services like um I mean, we're big PlayStation guys. Like I have PlayStation Plus premium or Xbox Game Pass, which I don't have, but but I have used in the past and you're paying a. Less less than what the fucking cost is here, because I think a year of PlayStation Plus premium is one hundred and ninety bucks, which is expensive.
02:29:19
Speaker
But the benefits I get out of that are far more valuable to me as a consumer than what I get out of Netflix. Game Pass is another good example. We're both PlayStation fans, but Game Pass, the value is crazy. It's nuts. Call of Duty is a massive... Imagine how much time... There's also the idea of entertainment value for time span. How much time you would spend with a specific game and how long they are. if theyre Usually games are a lot longer. Like a quality game, like my my favorite game of all time, Red Dead Redemption 2. You can play that game in its quality almost at every moment. You can play that for hundreds of hours. 200 hours. right and you're getting what And you're getting one TV show or a few TV shows. It depends on the person's value. You're right, the value proposition. But yeah each show is not that long. Each show is probably about 10 hours for a season.
02:30:10
Speaker
So you're not really getting that. It's it's interesting because I don't know. i um't Maybe the price of creating the content is actually higher than that. So that's kind of where they can they can justify it perhaps on their financial level. I feel like it's a bit of greed because they are making they're breaking they're not only breaking even, they're making money. It's crazy though when we think about Game Pass because I feel like Xbox Game Pass is losing money. I swear, I don't think it's possible that they make money on that. night I still to this day,
02:30:35
Speaker
Yeah. Which is crazy. It's Microsoft i though, right? like They make money off everything fuck like everything else, right? They're such a big company. like they they can They can take a loss in one aspect because they're making so much money on on every other aspect, right?
02:30:49
Speaker
With that being said though, Netflix has vowed not to do that anymore. so I can see why they might be hesitant. that's just The content though, I find their quality metric because of how much dilution, how much is diluted, how much crap they have on there. You like the the reality shows perhaps, but I don't really care for that at all. and so to It's not tailored to me. I do not care about the WWE e and i' I feel like I'm paying for that.
02:31:12
Speaker
Like if I look at PlayStation Plus Premium, I could pretty much dabble in most of the stuff on that service, like theoretically. Some of these games aren't great, but they're they're they're usually something I could dabble in. Yeah, like like for me specifically, like ah again, I pay the 190 for the the year of PlayStation Plus Premium, and I get more than $190 of value out of that.
02:31:35
Speaker
Yeah, if you break down every game, if you were buying them separately, certainly. Exactly, right? And that's not even included in the passive benefits of like cloud saves and all that sort of stuff, too, right? So like to me, it's it's more than valuable. I don't pay for Netflix. I use my parents' Netflix, right? i'm I'm living in their home up until next week. And when I move and they crack down on password sharing, I'm going to follow suit like like you. I'm not going to pay for Netflix. I will pay for a month when you comes out.
02:32:05
Speaker
I'll pay for a month. Oh. Yeah, you. Yeah, Simon. The hit TV show Simon Edie coming on out. It's because I put a bunch of cameras in throughout your house. I watch you do everything. I sent it all to Netflix. They're making a TV show about you. It's called Simon Edie Xylophone.
02:32:26
Speaker
Sex that's the name of the show because sex sells that's what they're making so they called your show Simon They called it sex. It's crazy. But anyways, so I'm gonna I'm gonna pay for a month of the UTV series I'll pay for a month once squid game comes out and I will pay when Jason Bateman's black bird or black black bird and black rabbit show comes out. But those are really the only ones that like I need to watch. Stranger things, probably. like I'll probably pay for a month for that time as well. Most likely. Oh, I will for sure. um But again, even all the movies that are coming out,
02:33:05
Speaker
um It's crazy that they're coming out with The Old Guard 2. I feel like the first Old Guard movie came out like 17 years ago. I feel like I was a child. It did well though. It did well for my recollection. It did, yeah. It had a lot of viewership. And like, Fear Street is really the big movie out of the list that you mentioned that I really, really want to watch. Obviously Knives Out sequel, cool. I'll watch that. I like Ryan Johnson as a director. I like the two Knives Out movies.
02:33:33
Speaker
Rip looks good to me. Which one? I like the idea of Rip with Matt Damon Ben Affleck team up. Oh, yeah. The crime drama in Miami. That looks pretty cool. I'm into that. Yeah. I also I like Happy Gilmore, so. Yeah, I never watched it. Classic. Oh, interesting. Yeah, never watched Happy Gilmore. I was a big daddy. And then the other one. OK, I saw both, but yeah, sure. Yeah.
02:33:59
Speaker
You can only choose one to watch. You broke the rules of childhood, Simon. You can only watch one of those movies. Good to know. Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein doesn't interest you? Oscar Isaac's in it? No? I mean, I'll watch it, maybe. Again, like i like just because a great director's attached to something doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to love the movie. I think about Robert Eggers. I love Robert Eggers movies, and then I watch an Oscar or two, and I was like,
02:34:24
Speaker
I can see the appeal. Not for me, but I can see the appeal. Like it's a cinematic marvel. Like it's beautiful. It's well shot, well acted, but this is not my cup of tea. So I don't know if like Guillermo del Toro is like following. If I'm going to watch a Frankenstein movie, let's just say I'm watching the Alvin and the Chipmunks Frankenstein movie. If I'm going to choose one of them, it's going to be the Alvin and the Chipmunks one. Interesting. Okay. The animated one.
02:34:49
Speaker
Yeah, I got it. Which is great. It's a great movie. They also did the Alvin and the Chipmunks werewolf movie as well. Great movie as well. Good to know. Okay. That's what I should have watched instead of Wolfman. The Alvin and the Chipmunks werewolf movie, which is great, Simon. But yeah. ah Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I think, yeah, the prices are are just a little bit excessive. All all things considered, and I do understand, like, yeah, it it costs a lot of money to make these shows, but when again, like that I don't give a shit about how much it costs you. I care about my value proposition. And when it comes to, again, we've been talking about video games, like Game Pass and stuff like that, ah but like video games in general, like I'm more than happy to pay $90 Canadian for many a game.
02:35:39
Speaker
that I know I'm going to get a lot of time and value out of. I don't buy every single game like Brand Spanking New for 90 bucks. But there are certain games I'm going to buy for $90 and not care about it. Like Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth that I bought last year. I bought it for $90. I played through it one time, spent over 100 hours on it, and I'm going to go back to it in the near future probably and replay it. And like, fuck dude, if that game came out and it was $200, I would have paid for that happily and still gotten a better value proposition than going to the movie theater paying $13 a ticket and spending an hour and a half there. You know what I mean? The the issue with Netflix is to me is that they're trying to be a one size fits all approach that I don't like that approach. like I prefer Apple TV plus. like I got to be real. it's It's less expensive, but every show is good content. They're not trying to do. Apple TV plus is not trying to do video games in their in their service. They're not trying to do WWE. They are actually trying to do some sports content, I think, but
02:36:39
Speaker
I just yeah, the em you got to be a little bit more focused. It's like twelve ninety nine for Apple TV plus, I believe in Canada. It is. Yeah. And so like that's a pretty good value for the quality of shows they have. I mean, that price might just start going up, especially because Netflix is the market leader, so they could they could influence the entire industry. It's I mean, they did with with the password sharing thing. They literally did Disney plus. law Yeah, because Disney did it, too. Yeah.
02:37:08
Speaker
Right. Yeah, I don't know. It's it's just annoying. But Disney Plus is also less expensive. After Amazon Prime, Disney Plus is the next highest subscriber number for a streaming service. And their quality is typically pretty good, too. And it's Disney, so it's interesting. I don't know. How much is Amazon Prime Video, though?
02:37:25
Speaker
Like on its way last. It's crazy because you get all the other stuff. Amazon Prime. Can you even buy Amazon Prime video separately? You have to get Amazon Prime and that's it, right? Because I think you can buy Amazon music separately. I swear to God. I don't know if you can get Prime video separately. But Prime Video added that $2 tier, right, where you have to pay two extra dollars to get no ads now. Honestly, they launched that and I was so annoyed. And then like you turn something on and it's a 30 second ad at the start of a two hour movie and it's like, okay, this doesn't, it doesn't actually bother me. It looks like $10 separately. It looks like, I don't know. this ai Oh my God. These AI things, they often get things wrong. They just scrape the web and they don't scare scrape it properly. It says that here, but I'm wondering now if that's wrong.
02:38:18
Speaker
But yeah, okay. that That's kind of the idea. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just, I get it. They have to make their money back, but it's like at a certain point, then you're you're kind of a cable service because you've just basically added all of these things. I like the focused approach of the streaming services that I'm watching. Like Disney Plus is pretty focused generally.
02:38:40
Speaker
i don't know it's pretty I don't know, Apple TV is probably the most focused and I think they just they just give you really high quality content and that's it. Yeah. um What else is there? Amazon Prime is not focused on that they give you other services, but they're way less expensive. They also give you live TV channels for free. ah disney Sorry, Amazon? Yeah. Yeah. They give you a lot actually. like um Sometimes I watch The Bachelor or Bachelorette on Amazon Prime because they have a city TV as just like a live channel.
02:39:10
Speaker
I got to be honest, I don't like Amazon TV on like Apple TV plus. I find it very annoying. Apple TV plus ah shows up with like, if I look up a movie, it will show up with Amazon prime and they go in there and then they try to rent it to me. It's like, I don't know what you're doing. Yeah, it's annoying. It really is annoying that they do that. I don't know why Apple allows that to be honest. I have no idea what they're thinking because they sell their own. They sell rentals themselves. Why are they? Do they let you rent it on your iPhone though?
02:39:35
Speaker
or on your Apple TV or does it say like this? I think so. or It gives you an option. I just don't. It's just annoying in general. I don't want to do that. I have an iTunes account. I'm going to use the iTunes. I'm just not going to use your.
02:39:46
Speaker
Yeah. Amazon Prime. i It's not on there, clearly. It's not that's on the streaming service. I don't offer it. but Anyway, it's getting sidetracked. It's obviously not a conversation about Amazon. But yeah, anyway, it's too much money to me. I think it's just silly and it's getting ridiculous. and And here's the other thing. Oh, I forgot to mention this. This is actually a huge part of this. So this is the top tier of Netflix, right? Not everyone's going to pick the top tier. They're going to choose the ad tier or something else.
02:40:10
Speaker
Netflix is in a unique position, not all of the other streaming services are doing this, that I can't pick the other tiers. I want 4K and I want Dolby Atmos. I am not going to pick the other options. Whereas the other services, Amazon's a good example. Amazon Prime gives you 4K at their ad tier that I'm on now, the same tier I've always been on, and they downgraded and made me pay the extra $2 if I wanted to get rid of that, sorry. I just chose not to get rid of ads, so I'm not paying that extra $2. Netflix doesn't give you the option. They gate you at that idea of, oh, you want 4K? Well, you got to pay for the premium version.
02:40:44
Speaker
Yeah. And like that sucks. like I have no choice. I want the quality to be good or I don't want it at all. And that's why I cancel Come Back is my solution. I just find that they're not really thinking it through because I would take ads. No problem. Let me give you the ad revenue. I don't actually care if as's only the ads are not incredibly egregious and long and just take up multiple spot ad spots within the actual episode. I'm good with that. So and that that's the main criticism I kind of had with it. but Now aside, I know we're talking about Netflix, and again, I agree with everything that you're saying here. With Apple TV, do you start and stop your subscription there too? Or is it like at a point that it's like low enough and that you always have something that you want to watch on there? I do not. Apple TV is in the unique position that they do not do that at all. They don't do password sharing.
02:41:38
Speaker
and It's true, yeah. It is awesome. i'm i'm sharing I'm sharing with my family. The other thing that's interesting, and this is where they have me now, but it might change as the prices increase. I actually am an Apple One subscriber. Apple One is you get iCloud and Apple News and Apple Music, which I we already was subscribing to separately, and Apple TV Plus. And then you basically just you get to streaming two of those services in some way for free. I also get Apple Arcade, but I just don't even use it because I'm ah place play belllaro I know, I know. I saw the blotro was on ah Apple um arcade and I thought about playing it there, but I really love trophies. I don't think I could do it. I'd have to buy it. It's cheap too. It's inexpensive on, on PlayStation. I just really just honor the Canadian, you know, local thunk.
02:42:25
Speaker
The name of the developer. That would be what I would do. I'm not going to do that now, because I've got too many games on the go. But regardless of that, um yeah, so I've got a lot of these streaming services. And they're all shared throughout my entire family. For not that low of a price, to be honest, it's about $50. But there's a lot of streaming services on that spot. So if you think about the fact that Netflix is half of that. I'm getting two terabytes of iCloud storage. I'm getting Apple Music. I'm getting Apple TV Plus. And I'm getting Apple News, Apple Fitness, and Apple Arcade.
02:42:52
Speaker
I'm not using them all, but if someone in my family wants to, there's five people, that's a pretty good deal in that regard. And if Apple decided, hey, by the way, your family doesn't live together, this doesn't count, canceled. I guarantee you I'm canceling it because that the advantage of this is that my my dad has complained for for years, like he runs out of phone storage and the iCloud was key for him. So for me buying it for him, even though he lives in a different part of Ontario, it's pretty key. It's pretty useful. I've never met your dad.
02:43:21
Speaker
Yeah, I guess you haven't, no. Will I ever meet him, you think? I hope so. One day. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Anyway, that's my my thought process on that. um And Amazon Prime is different. I don't do it with Amazon Prime because of the the other benefits, the other benefits that weigh themselves. I don't pay $120 for that, which is ridiculous. so Dude, it's such a good value. You pay the entire year up front. Dude, I'm using Amazon like especially now that I'm moving and i I had to get a bunch of random moving supplies. I got tape off Amazon. I got
02:43:55
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um
02:43:58
Speaker
other things off Amazon that I can't think of off the top of my head. How is it so cheap for Amazon Prime? I don't know. It's amazing. Dude, Amazon is I think by far the best value Amazon Prime is by far the best value period. so Is it 120 now? I thought they raised it to 180. Am I crazy?
02:44:16
Speaker
I don't know. it's twenty anyway Even at 180, who the fuck cares? 15 bucks a month, dude? Everything, yeah. Yeah, again, you just when you calculate it out, it just makes more sense on a value perspective. And Disney's not that bad either. I've kept Disney for some reason. I can't remember why. Oh, well, no, because there's some kind of issue where, worst so I guess it's not an issue. It's an issue for them, where where it's allowing other people who have been using my account traditionally, like you, you can somehow access it even though you're in a different place. Yeah. so It didn't for a while.
02:44:44
Speaker
Yeah, it's strange that the password crackdown thing is so weird because it just feels like it's like it's mitigating the fact that people are realizing that they're not watching as much content as they thought they would. They were or something like that. Like I don't watch. I'm never watching anyone streaming service that much. Like if we're talking about like Kenneth Satterbauer, I bet you got a guy always has Disney Plus.
02:45:04
Speaker
because he's a huge Disney fan, and that makes sense to me. So like he would always have Disney as this as a staple because he would go back to the various Disney movies or whatever, and he's a big fan. So that makes sense. But for me, I'm always dabbling in all of them. In fact, the one I dabble in the most as well is Apple. I got to be honest. like I'm watching Silo right now. I'm watching Severance. I'm watching two Apple shows simultaneously.
02:45:25
Speaker
Yeah. So I find, I don't know, it's interesting. it's it is interesting though The quality metric, again, is just not high enough overall in Netflix that I would want it to over the the whole time. And when I look through the list that we I just compiled here, I'm interested in maybe a quarter of these things.
02:45:42
Speaker
in a vague way. As you mentioned, Black Rabbit, I'm super interested in. I'd love to see what Liam Hemsworth does as opposed to Henry Cavill in The Witcher. That seems interesting, but I might never watch that ever. Wednesday, I'm definitely interested in it, for sure. Did you watch the first season? I enjoyed it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I never watched it. I watched it together at a Halloween time.
02:46:02
Speaker
Me and you? I was there? No, no, no. Did I have my eyes closed? Because I don't remember it. Thank you for specifying. I drugged you, actually. Oh my god. I knew you were a criminal. We talked about you being a criminal. Stop doing the eyebrow thing. It's kind of creepy. No, me and my fiancé. We watched it. It's a cozy show. It's cozy. It's a little silly drama. It's a little high school silly drama, but it's good. There's good acting in it.
02:46:29
Speaker
Um, what's her name? Jenna Artega is really great. She really is good. That meme of her dancing. She is really great. Like that dance is really great. The whole thing. There's a vibe there and Tim Burton is great. Like Tim Burton's just does a solid job making the show. So I'm a fan of it ah to some extent. It's not my favorite show ever, but it's, it's good. It's worth watching in squid game. I'm definitely going to watch. I think me too I think rip I'm into, I think knives out. Definitely. I'm into, I really like knives out glass onion, glass onion knives out whatever glass onion and knives out story or whatever.
02:47:00
Speaker
Electric state I'm on the fence about. I don't care about that, then. I'll be honest with you. Good actors, though. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. yeah yes So that's because of the fact that I'm kind of vaguely interested in some of this stuff and mostly not. I can again cancel come back. It's kind of good though. I like the idea of being able to cancel it. I like this idea that I'm not sharing. It actually helps me a bit because I rather be more precise with what I when I subscribe to things. I actually like that idea. And when I'm subscribed, then I can jump in and and finish off. For instance, I haven't watched Arkane season two.
02:47:33
Speaker
I'm canceled now, but as soon as I subscribe again for the next season of whatever I'm going to watch, I'm going to jump in and also watch Arcane Season 2, which I'm very excited for. but ah just
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02:47:43
Speaker
I don't want to do it right now because I had Netflix for a few months and I didn't cancel it. Now it seems like a good time to cancel because it's just, again, it's becoming too much. Too many different streaming services add up. They're very expensive. Anyway, that's my thought process.
02:47:56
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but yeah anyway
02:47:59
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yeah But yeah, the last thing about this, on the topic of the show, I asked you to compile a list, Adrian. I don't know if you did it or not, but i I thought it would be kind of a fun exercise, a fun activity if we went back and forth and kind of named off our favorite Netflix things of all time.
02:48:18
Speaker
I don't want to be overly negative and negative. I think Netflix is a like generally a good entity to have existed. I like that they exist, and it's cool that they make these huge projects, and theyre they have the budget to do some crazy stuff. To be fair, I feel like maybe we were overly negative in this segment so far. Yeah. They have been very successful. I think my write-up was pretty unbiased. I don't know but about you, but I feel like that I gave them a fair shake. It just ended on a note if it's being expensive.
02:48:43
Speaker
and but i think Yeah, we've liked a lot of Netflix content over the years. And I think you you were really high on Netflix, actually. I think on our previous iteration of the podcast, I think you were saying that you think Netflix is kind of the most valuable service at one point for you at the time, which is cool. You watched some of the even the the lot of the reality TV stuff as well um and that type of thing, too. So that's this.
02:49:07
Speaker
Go, let's name off our our favorite things. We'll do top three favorite things of on Netflix that have aired at any point so far that we've seen that we love. ah We'll go, ah you, me.
02:49:21
Speaker
You me, you me, if we can. So we'll do back and forth, alternating. You go first. This was a tough list to compile, Simon. I'll be honest with you, because top three is- Oh, yeah, because there's so much. Just throw in, we'll throw in honorable mentions at the end so you can throw in the remainder. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. OK, it sounds OK. It sounds great. So I'm pulling out my list here. So the first one I think is a fairly obvious one. I've talked about this actually a few times since we've rebooted ourselves and it's arcane. You know, it's it's it's we just talking. It's fantastic. You know, 18 episodes of just peak
02:50:05
Speaker
animation uh again it's based on league of legends which is like a property that i'm not really into that that i really care about but video game yeah the league of legends video game and but they took characters from that video game um that I guess is relatively lore heavy and made it into a fully fleshed world that we followed along and it it's it's it's great. I love Arkane. I can't recommend it enough. Again, like my fiancee watched it with me as well. She really, really, really liked it despite not having any knowledge of League of Legends or really caring about this sort of stuff. It's just a very well written and acted television series with, again, in my personal opinion, the most beautiful,
02:50:47
Speaker
art style in in any television series. I would go as far as to say that. um So yeah, that's that's my number one choice. Going going going hard, going strong. I don't know if we ever talked about this in regards to our cane, but I don't know if you realize this, but one of the reasons I actually really like League of Legends playing it because I played I probably played a thousand hours of League of Legends.
02:51:12
Speaker
over the course of my life. i didn't I haven't played it recently at all. I think within like eight years I haven't played it once, but um before that I did. and One of the interesting things about it is that they always had really awesome cinematic trailers. Did you know about that? Did we talk about that? so No, but I did watch their most recent cinematic trailer that is essentially an epilogue to Arkane.
02:51:39
Speaker
Okay. like It has one of the characters and I was like, Oh man, like this is amazing. And it. they They came out and said, like, we are not like trying to set up a new TV show with the cinematic, but it feels like they are. And and I hope they actually are. Yeah, I didn't know about the previous stuff. That's the thing with that that that game is that it always felt like they could create a TV show or a movie out of it. And people ask for it it. It was like, do you remember the cinematic ah cinematic trailers for the Old Republic Star Wars game? Mm hmm. Yeah. And the real cinematic.
02:52:13
Speaker
Those reveal cinematics were amazing, but the the game never really panned out to be as exciting or amazing as as the trailers were. And that's kind of that's not what League of Legends is, because League of Legends is one of the most popular games in the world. But in general, they they always released these character vignette trailers that were always so interesting and awesome. And the animation style is typically varied, actually, between the stuff from my remembering.
02:52:34
Speaker
And they were really, really intriguing. And so when they announced Arkane, I was like, that's so cool. They actually followed through on this idea of creating a show out of these trailers, basically, in a way, or or creating because they had such good ideas. They were short. They were like five minutes, typically. But that was always something that really intrigued me. Having been a fan of the game at the time and seeing the characters that I i kind of played or liked in these cinematic trailers was really exciting. And so Arkane is really cool because of that, too. And Arkane is very expensive to make, which is so weird.
02:53:02
Speaker
So very expensive and more than they probably would have made on. They would probably wouldn't make too much on the show, but they definitely make money on the like the hype behind it for the game and that the game makes a lot of money ah for Riot, the developer every year. Yeah. So they'll make a lot of money on it. But but I think that that was the that was a great sentiment that you mentioned on episode one on one, I think, in that the one of the creators said,
02:53:26
Speaker
You know we don't do that we're not doing this for the for for the money we're doing for the art or something like that. Yeah it's like along those lines in a paraphrased way yeah it was like we don't make arcane to make money to put in the league of legends we make league of legends to make money to put into this like art.
02:53:43
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Which is pretty awesome. I got to I got to be real. I feel like that that's a that's a really that's a cool sentiment that I feel like most I wish more places, more more creators would have. And like a lot of them do, and especially people making indie films like Sean Baker.
02:54:01
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Yeah, I imagine yeah money is important to him, but it's really he wants to make a really cool movie from the heart and written really beautifully and all that stuff and shot gorgeously and whatever. But anyway, it's not always the case. It is a business like like Netflix wants to make money. like That's for sure. um But yeah, cool. My first one I'm going to choose here is is The Killer. It's David Fincher, director David Fincher's movie.
02:54:27
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i It's a movie about a a hitman killer played by Michael Fassbender, a killer, yeah. And it's got music from ah Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, as David Fincher has been tending to do over the last few movies anyway.
02:54:43
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And I really like it. I thought the style of it was really cool. I thought Michael Fassbender was really great in it. I thought overall it was awesome. I was going to almost pick this as one of the, when we did our our first episode when we were talking about the our favorite movies of 2024, but I realized that I actually watched it at the end of 2023. Yeah. I couldn't actually use the killer. So here's my my use of the killer. There's a really good relationship, honestly, between um Netflix and David Fincher in general. He's done a few movies with with them, and he's also done a show, which is really cool as well. And so I guess let's just throw my honorable mention in there. I feel like it's actually my second pick, but I'm going to cheat a little bit. It's Mindhunter because of the relationship he has. You cheater, cheater, pumpkin. I know, I know. And Mindhunter, which my I don't know if you you ever did you ever watch Mindhunter? No.
02:55:32
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So it's a David Fincher created series that feels like, kind of feels like Zodiac a little bit. It's it's just about these ah these people in the FBI and the in the fledgling moments of when they started to create a profiling element to the FBI where they started to have FBI profiles who profile serial serial killers. And these these profiles were kind of thought of as a joke in the beginning. They're like putting this like,
02:55:54
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weird basement and they're they're like kind of like, you guys suck kind of thing. But then as that as it grows, the science of trying to read people and understand why why what the MO is of of killers. It's like Criminal Minds, if it was good. I'm kidding. Shots fired. No, but no it's funny because my fiance really loves Criminal Minds as well. um But Mine Hunter is a cut above. It really does feel like an HBO quality show. It's shot really well. It's beautiful. It's only a two seasons.
02:56:24
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It's a sub above. Yeah. Yeah. So he said, yeah, there's the Mike's reference. are hungry Um, yeah, it just feels very exacting. Like it feels like it's very specific. Again, it's a detail aspect. I feel like this is the theme of the show is like the the devil is in the details is really the theme. I feel like of this episode of split focus of film and TV podcast is that everything we've talked about, I feel like a kind of the devil is in the details.
02:56:51
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Yeah. Yeah. Write that down. Put it in your notes so you we don't forget what I wanted to name it. We we have X Mac and at home, but you really don't agree with that sentiment. So maybe we don't go. You can do it. You know, you can. You're the guy that publishes it. So, you know, what if you don't like me. I don't want to make titles that you don't agree with at all.
02:57:10
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but we're We're a team and in that we're co-hosting, so I feel like it should relate to both of us. But but yeah, the devil is in the details, for sure. And and I feel like that's what Damai and Hunter does so well. It doesn't feel like there's wasted space. But because it's a TV show, he can really flesh out these character relationships between various characters. and yeah There's something about road trips, by the way, in various movies and TV shows and actually there's a movie we just talked about today that has one of these such types of situations where people or a group of people are on ah on ah on a road trip or they're going on ah on a trip together and there's like this bonding that happens that you would not expect these types of people to have. You can actually just have that in real life. I feel like that's relatable just going on a road trip with people you don't know as much. Like you you get to know them more because you're in an intimate setting in a tight claustrophobic car. So that that ah does that's just happen I think in real life as well. But I feel like a lot of movies and TV shows that put people into a claustrophobic environment like a road trip, buddy cop movies do this well or buddy movies where people are driving along the road or traveling along the road together.
02:58:11
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The Lost of Us is a good example, but there's that aspect of certain movies and and things like that. I get that in Mindhunter a little bit and that the characters are kind of stuck together even though they don't necessarily like each other and they they grow to bond together. Anyways, it's a great show. Like like the hit 2000s movie Euro trip.
02:58:31
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Yeah, sure. I guess. I've never seen that, but yeah. yeah but I guarantee you it is not similar to Mine Hunter. I guarantee i would bet money on it. Mine Hunter isn't really that all the way. I think less The Last of Us is a better example, and another movie we talked about earlier that I don't want to spoil.
02:58:48
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But I think, yeah, there's there's elements there that that are cool. But anyway, mine was really good. I recommend it to anyone. The problem is, is that David Fincher isn't making another season either because Netflix doesn't want him to because it didn't make enough money for them or something like that. But I mean, I love it so much. It's so sad that they they ended it after the second season. So it's hard for me to recommend that to anyone because it was like a cliffhanger. You don't recommend it.
02:59:11
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Kind of yeah cuz they alluded to something that Throughout two seasons. They didn't end anything really. I think they anticipated coming back for season three and lamb So it is kind of disappointing in that little regard we we just thought it was coming back, but apparently no so anyway your your second pick My second pick Simon is going to be another TV show. However, there's only been one season and I watched it last year, I think. Maybe 2023. It's Blue Eye Samurai. Oh, yeah. It's an animated show, right? It is an animated show. I think eight episodes. The second season is coming out maybe this year, if not next. I'm so curious what your third pick is now. a Man, it's so awesome. I'm curious.
02:59:56
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Um, so yeah, it's it's a really great show, you know, obviously again, uh, animated, uh, series follows a samurai during, um, you know, kind of the, the inception of when, um,
03:00:13
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like English people went into Japan during you know the time where Japan was very closed off from the outside world and kind of this like evil English people coming into Japan and setting up trade deals with, you know, um Japanese.
03:00:31
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Royalists, I guess royal isn't the right word, but like, you know, it's somewhat the plot of Shogun. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Fair enough. So yeah, like I guess um it's it's like Shogun, but animated. But yeah, it's it's I don't know about that, but I don't know. There's elements in Shogun like that. um But yeah, but we're following, you know, one character specifically. And yeah, they, you know, they're kind of picking between like you know who they are and what they are. um And yeah, it just really tackles on a lot of interesting
03:01:03
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you know plot elements with with this character. yeah I'm trying to be as vague because like I suggest going in blind. There's a lot of reveals by the end of the first episode, but at the same time, it was cool to kind of jump into the show and like figure it out by the end of the first episode. Cool. So then I really recommend, really great, very well written. um Can't wait for the second season. Great actors apart from it. Kevin Braun is in it. like he He voices one of the main characters. um So really good stuff.
03:01:31
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Sweet. All right. Ready? What's number two for mine? Yeah, please. My number two is uncut gems. What a what a gem. Yeah. Was that on your list? Yeah, that that was going to be my number three, funnily enough. But I'll change it. I just relieved yeah relieved you, I guess. You've relieved. It's a weird way to say that. Anyway, uncut gems. What? Huh?
03:01:57
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I don't know what you said. Regardless of that, Uncut Gems, who maybe the most stressed I've ever watched a movie in terms of the the tension in that film. Adam Sandler is so good. The Safdie Brothers, like it's such a great movie directed by them. It's so fantastic. It's so stressful. And I think from my perspective, from what I've seen Adam Sandler do, it's my favorite role he's been in, personally. I think he's great. I feel like he he just,
03:02:24
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He is that character in that movie. And I feel like it was a shame that he wasn't nominated for an Oscar because I think he really deserved it. And I feel like he was snubbed that year, personally. That movie is great. It's so good. And we didn't see it on Netflix. We watched it together at the Princess Twin theaters. We did, yeah. And that was a great experience. It was better in a theater, I feel like, than it would have got at home, probably. there was Again, the tension was palpable. I felt so nervous for freaking Adam Sandler's character the whole time.
03:02:53
Speaker
Man, great movie. Great movie. that's That's my number two there. Nice, man. That's a good choice. That's a good choice. Okay, so my third and final pick, Simon. I think I know what the answer is. and Wait, your number three was uncut gems? Yeah, that was gonna be my three pick. Okay. If you don't pick the movie, the the thing I'm thinking of, then I'd be very surprised. Go on. I'm actually, yeah, I don't know. I'm curious what you what you think. I don't think you you know what I'm gonna pick.
03:03:22
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Because it is the ultimatum queer love. What a great show. I can't wait. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm not going to waste it. I'm not going to waste it on that. It's actually Hubie Halloween starring Adam. I'm joking. However, I do like both of those. I know. I'm going to be legit. I do like both of those. But yeah, the third and final thing is a movie. It is a marriage story.
03:03:48
Speaker
You're wrong. but sure You're wrong. I'm wrong? What did you think I was going to pick? Please. You're wrong. When I tell you what it is, you're going to say that it's the thing I'm going to say. Are you ready? Yeah. Bojack Horseman.
03:04:01
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Fuck, dude. Yeah, you're 100% right. I'm an idiot. I'm a dumb bitch. I'm a stupid fucking ape. You're not. Don't go be so hard on yourself. I'm so dumb, dude. Maristory is great, though. Maristory is great. I almost have it on my list, too. But Maristory is excellent. Yeah, I like it. Yeah. Wow, I'm a dumb fucking ape-great. I thought, wait, you picked freaking Blue-Eye Samurai? And I was like, wait. It is really good. I do really, really love Blue-Eye Samurai. You like Blue-Eye Samurai better than Edgerunners?
03:04:31
Speaker
Ooh, maybe they're very close. I did. I did. Fuck you, man. Fuck you. Fuck you, you fucking. Yeah. But tell me about Bojack. Yeah. But Bojack Horseman is is genuinely like, if not my favorite show of all time, very close to it. It's it's masterfully done. Will Arnett is is phenomenal. Alison Brie is phenomenal.
03:04:59
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um Tugs on the heartstrings. It's a show that makes me laugh. It makes me cry. air um Aaron Paul. Aaron Paul from Westworld season three fame. No, I'm just kidding. Of course. From the season of Westworld that nobody seemed to watch. I've seen it. I didn't. I didn't see season four, though. I don't think anyone did because they canceled it after that one. Yeah, that's so sad. Yeah.
03:05:28
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Yeah. Wow. I'm an idiot. I'm a fool. I'm a stupid butt. I'm not even Tiny Butt Man. I'm stupid Tiny Butt Man. I got to change it. Let's end the call so I can change my name here. Yeah, I know you're right. ah Tiny Butt Man says the devil's in the details. That's a good one. Is that the episode title? It's long. Are we geniuses? Yeah, dude. It is.
03:05:54
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um But no, you're right. Yeah, Bojack Horseman is is up there. Again, I don't know why I didn't think of that. I think there's just so many, ah you get analysis paralysis. There's so many options, you forget about everything. Oh, there are. I had to go through lists to find these options. that I forgot about them. When I started going through them, this is why actually it's funny. I gave Netflix a lot of slack in the beginning of this, and then now we're giving them a lot of praise. There's so many movies i could have or TV shows I could have picked.
03:06:16
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yeah and there's ah There's a lot, they have a lot. My problem is this diluted content and I don't think the price makes sense if you look at Apple TV Plus's more specific content, but Apple TV Plus is like a youngling, a little baby. It's not very old and they don't have that much content in comparison. Like Disney Plus started reasonably recently too, but they obviously had so much legacy content to put on their service. It's not the same thing. So Netflix is tricky because they just have stuff that I just have no interest in, I'm sure I'm paying for.
03:06:45
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That's like kind of what I felt like with Game Pass, like Game Pass added Call of Duty and then it went up $3. It's like, but I don't care about Call of Duty. So this is not making it more enticing for Simon. It's just, it's, you're diluting it with good stuff. Cause Call of Duty is great game, but for a lot of people, but for me, it just doesn't make sense. So I feel like more focused, stream well, I'm just choked on my own.
03:07:11
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words. Air. More specific, more specific focus streaming services are more up my alley specifically. I find that they are more valuable. Anyway, my third. No, I did. I do. I did. I do three. No, I didn't. Well, you technically did. You cheated. You cheated a great deal. Those were the two I was going to do, but I felt like it was weird to just name David Fincher movies. I do like David Fincher a lot or David Fincher. Well, now all three of my choices were technically animated things, animated TV shows. So it's It's weirdly. That's why I thought it was weird. That's why I thought it was strange that you didn't choose Bojack yet because I'm like, wait, you're choosing only three animated movies? Is that for sure you're going to pick? Cyberpunk Edgerunners. Let's make it four babies. Yeah, thanks for the Edgerunners. And the hit animated series, marriage stories. Well, it's animated using real life actors shot on camera. And it's a movie, not a TV show.
03:08:02
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That movie's great. Noah Baumbach. It's beautiful. Scarlett Johansson, Adam Driver. That movie's very heart-wrenching, very sad. I never want to get a divorce. Yeah. Because of that. Before that movie, I was ready to get divorced. You were high on the concept. Dude, I was stoked. I was like, I can't wait to get divorced. So I can get divorced. Yeah, that's what I was looking forward to. But now I'm like, I don't want to get divorced, actually. Doesn't sound like a good song. That's fair.
03:08:30
Speaker
Well, they taught you a lesson. Thank thank you. Noah Baumbach. Good man. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, wasn't it also wasn't Greta Gerwig also the writer or am I wrong? No, I think they did. I'm just thinking maybe you're right. They're married. Yeah. Didn't they do white noise together after though? It wasn't that a thing. They did white noise together. Hmm. You might be right. No, it's just no bomb back for both. He wrote it and directed it.
03:08:59
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for white noise. Was that the one that they teamed up for? Let's see. Let's see. Noah Baumbach. White noise written for the screen by. White noise. My internet is loading slowly. Noah Baumbach. No, they did not team up for that. But Greta Gerwig was in it. She starred in it alongside Adam Driver and Don Cheadle. OK. Did you watch White Noise? No. Also a Netflix property. I haven't seen it either.
03:09:30
Speaker
OK. My last one that I'm going to choose here today is a movie that I think is also oozing with style, as I used to describe, I believe, the companion. um And the the movie is Red Notice. No, no. Yeah, no. Did you see Red Notice? I didn't even watch it. I didn't watch it. I didn't watch it.
03:09:55
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um No, the movie is a James Samuel directed movie called The Harder They Fall. Oh, dude, I forgot about that movie. I love it so much. The music in that film is so good. The cast is crazy.
03:10:12
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Unfortunately, one of them is is is literally crazy, but yeah. One of them was convicted of a crime. But regardless of that, Jonathan Majors was good in it, though. yeah He acted well. But regardless of that, Zazie Beets is in it. Regina King, Idris Alba, Lakeith Sandfield, so good. Man.
03:10:28
Speaker
such a good just generally just great it's just such again oozing with style it's a ah it's a western film um and it it's just the music they use contemporary like James Samuel uses contemporary music in it and it just fits so well it specifically fits so well the action sequences are great as well I really enjoyed it. It was a fun movie. I forgot about that. It's a good movie. It's a good choice, Simon. It's a good choice, Simon Edie. That's one though. I gotta be, I gotta be real. I bet you if that movie had come out to a theater, that that would have like really hit even harder. I don't know if it would have sold as much as it would have, but if I imagine watching that in a theater, the sound was so good. Yeah. That was 2022, right?
03:11:11
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I believe so. like I have a pretty solid, pretty good sound system, and I feel like I really got the benefit. But I wonder, like the problem with Netflix, really, and it's like this Martin Scorsese situation that he talks about. I don't know, although it doesn't really matter, because he's literally put on his movie he's putting his movies on Netflix now, and streaming services like Apple TV Plus. 2021 is when it came out, yeah.
03:11:36
Speaker
But it's it's tricky because these movies are on streaming service and people are watching it on their phone. like Imagine watching the harder they fall on their phone on your phone. they probably This was during the height of COVID. because i were Yeah, I'm thinking. Because yeah, like it came out in 2021. I feel like this would have been a good theater movie, but theaters were essentially shut down still.
03:11:57
Speaker
Yeah. so But no, but Netflix doesn't like putting things in theaters. like Just generally, they they put them in theaters for a week sometimes because of an agreement they made with the actors. like They're putting the Chronicles of Narnia movie by Greta Gerwig, speaking of Greta Gerwig. Yeah. like they're They're doing an IMAX release for that, which I think is like, have they ever even done an IMAX release connected with a Netflix movie before?
03:12:17
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<unk>t I don't remember one. They've done releases for movies, so in theaters, of course, like they did. The Irishman was in theaters like a very select number of theaters briefly. A movie we saw, obviously we saw in Cut Gems, we talked about that. We also saw The Gray Man. um Oh, yeah. Which I enjoyed. With feet rubber McGee.
03:12:35
Speaker
I don't think we've ever told that story, actually. We must have. The guy that was unbelievable. Yeah, it was an empty theater. Yeah, empty theater. There was us two, I think one guy sitting in the back, maybe two guys sitting in the back and then one other guy sitting in like the row ahead of us. This dude sitting in the row ahead of us, like 10 minutes into the movie, takes off his shoes, takes off his socks and then starts rubbing his dry feet together. So you literally hear.
03:13:08
Speaker
I don't know if I can hear that on the mic. I don't know if that's coming through. The noise, but I'm rubbing my hands together, but it was loud. It was loud. It was like. And I'm like, what? What is it? And I remember so vividly looking over to you and you looking at me being like the most but bewildered look like, what is this happening? yeah did That was so fun. move I was like, this is so fucked. I'm going to whack this guy on the back of the head. Anyway, so insane. I feel like you could just, I don't know if we could see it, but I feel like I was at least imagining the dry skin just being rubbed off. I dude, I saw it. It was snowflakes falling on a beautiful Christmas morning. That's
Episode Wrap-Up and Upcoming Releases
03:13:48
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what it looks like. It's so disgusting.
03:13:49
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It's gross, dude. It's fucked. Yeah. I don't know. That movie was OK, though. It was fun. Maybe it ruined it for me a little bit. It was it was not as good as it could have been. They had pretty solid actors in Ryan Gosling and Chris Evans. I feel like it was. Yeah. Maybe as fantastic as I was hoping. But cool. Cool, man. Well, that's it. Right now. Awesome. That's it. Now we're gonna and we're going to move on to a segment of our show that I like to call a look to the future.
03:14:18
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Wow. A portion of our podcast where each of us presents our picks for the TV series or movies that look most interesting to us, that are releasing between February 11th, 2025 and February 24th, 2025. What's going on with your eye? are You doing okay? Yeah, I'm doing fine. I do have to go to the bathroom again though. I apologize.
03:14:40
Speaker
Oh, darn. I wanted to wait for your write up. I'm sorry. I drank that coffee. I held it in for the first two hours. And then and then I had a really long pee. And then I feel like all the coffee was stored up in my in my in my balls where where liquids are stored. Hmm. All right. so So I'm so sorry. Get out of here, tiny butt man.
03:15:11
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I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I just, there's piss everywhere. There's just piss all everywhere. I don't know what happened. Jesus Christ. I'm covered in it. I'm so scared, man. And we're back. I'm so scared.
03:15:32
Speaker
Oh my goodness. All righty. yeah Adrian. I love how you let me read the write up so that we disjointedly, you went to the bathroom and then and then come back and say you pissed everywhere. there'll be along i'll read I'll read the write up. I'll include the fact that you just said, I pissed everywhere and now we're going to look to the future and pick three movies. Well, I thought the issue last time was I said that I had to pee before you read the write up. No, that was fine. Oh, sorry, I misread the situation. I apologize.
03:16:06
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anyone We want to go before the segment. It's better. Anyway, we're in it now. So it's already too late. Let's talk about what we're excited for this week, the week of February 11th to the 24th. Adrian, I'll let you go first again.
03:16:21
Speaker
Tell me what you are excited for in the next two weeks. You know what I'm excited for, Simon. You know what I'm excited for. What? There's a little bear, and he's hanging out in a country called Peru. It's Paddington in Peru, releasing on Valentine's Day, February 14th. Cannot wait for this flick. Stoked. I'm moving into my new house, like officially probably going to have the first sleepover on on that day. Maybe do a little Paddington action leading up to it.
03:16:52
Speaker
Maybe on that day. Paddington in Peru, baby. February 14th. I love it. It's great. I know it's going to be good. I'm going to love this little bear. He's going to get up to antics. Crazy bear antics. Think, think, think, i think, think, think. It's the wrong bear. It's the wrong bear, dude. Oh, no. It's not the Berenstein bear, you silly. It's Paddington. Right, yeah.
03:17:16
Speaker
Oh, okay. Well, at least you got it was a bear. Yeah. See, you like that impression or at least you're getting it a little bit. You're like, it's not Jerry Seinfeld for you, I guess. So that's that's a good news story. Yeah. You know, yeah I know you don't like my Jerry Seinfeld impression. Simon, I'll be honest with you. I don't. Yeah, you're right. Oh, no. Take a.
03:17:42
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so pregnant That's a really bad Jerry Seinfeld impression I'm doing right now. I'm telling you, it's crazy. You're going to bait me into the Jerry Seinfeld impression. You're going to regret it. So let's not go there. You're going to hate it. I'm excited for Paddington and Peru as well, coming out on February 14th. I am also excited for coming out the same day, Captain America Brave New World, previously called Captain America New World Order.
03:18:10
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starring Harrison Ford, Anthony Mackie, very exciting. Other actors. yeah I think there's gonna be some surprises. My question is, who's the villain? Who's the who's the true villain in this story? John Carlo Esposito. We've seen John Carlo Esposito, but is it not Red Hulk based on the trailers? And how can Captain America fight Red Hulk, especially because he doesn't have the super serum, theoretically,
03:18:38
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Right? Because he's he's he's Falcon. he He is a bird, yeah. falcon Falcon's not supercharged. That's been my question for this series. Yeah, it's it's interesting. Like, are they going to do anything? Are they going to? You think they're going to drug them? He was committed to not being drugged. He didn't want steroids.
03:19:00
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So and true I don't know. There's an interesting thing about that. there's ah There's an interesting thing. It's like, is it just for principle of it in the storyline? Because I don't like it for the principle. I kind of want him to be powerful because it's more interesting for me.
03:19:14
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I like Anthony Mackie as Captain America. I think that's a cool change. It's interesting. I just think that you he's not very he's not strong. And if they show him to be strong, I found the power dynamics in the MCU has been all messed up, like literally been messed up. That's been the issue in the actual last few movies.
03:19:32
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I don't understand what the Marvels could do. I don't know what they all can do. I don't get it. And I need to do one person who defined it actually really well. And actually, I think the Russo brothers did a good job, too. But the Avengers movies did a good job with defining the power metrics. Joss Whedon was the first one to do that. He made the Avengers fight each other on purpose. So I think so that he could determine who is more powerful than other people. And that's always a question everyone asks, like, who would win in a fight? I mean, or the Hulk. Well, that's an obvious one. Or like, so are the Hulk. wherever it may be. And that's an interesting concept that people always ask. And so I feel like they're not paying attention to that at all anymore. Like that doesn't matter. And it does matter because again, the universe is rules and the way it's built is important to kind of setting the tone for the rest of the story. Yeah.
03:20:20
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In relation to the, again, companion, devil's in the details type situation, companion, they don't, for me, fake like make it clear well how the science works. How does AI work? How does the bo bots actually work? They they they dabble in it. It's Tony Stark. They do this for comedy. Yeah. Right. He built it. It all works because Tony Stark. Because of Jarvis. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Anyway.
03:20:43
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Yeah. So that's the question. I'm curious about that, but we'll see how it out goes. And I hope that it sets the tone and in it. As I said before, it sets us like, set like lights a spark, like Flint sets a spark that lights the, the MCU of flames so that we can start seeing like things like fantastic for really lift off and just build up massive amounts of hype that they can just carry the momentum into Avengers. That's what I'm hoping for.
03:21:10
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Yeah. That's your second movie. Yeah. That's great. That's great. That's great. That's great. What's your second movie or TV show? My second movie, Simon. Your second choice. Is going to be...
03:21:23
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The Monkey, coming out on February 21st, that's by Osgood Perkins, written and directed by him. Stephen King? Yeah, written from a short, short story of Steven Stevens. I mean, we're on a first name basis. um ah Yeah, it looks really good. I mean, the trailer doesn't really show too much of like what the plot is. It just looks like it at it's bloody and gory. This monkey makes violence happen. I'm in it. I'm in it. I really like long legs.
03:21:53
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I like Long Legs. This seems way more funny and like kind of like a dark comedy than Long Legs was. In a way. Long Legs was not funny. It didn't look funny at all. There's like one scene that's kind of funny. And it's just because Nicholas Cage is just off his rocker. And it's like not really like ha ha funny. It's like, oh, this is uncomfortable. Like this is funny. um So I'm very curious what he's going to do with this. I'm stoked. I'm going to watch it.
03:22:19
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There's so many movies, dude. I got to catch up on like 17 things that came out. Apparently, love hurts. Not that good. Yeah. Yeah. Poorly read. That sucks. It's too bad. Yeah. Trailer shows everything. All right. Like beat for beat. That trailer literally shows the final movie. They literally have a line at the end of the trailer that's like, hey, this is a line from the end of the movie. It's not the line, but it's essentially from the end of the movie. And they show it. Yeah.
03:22:49
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Yeah. OK, my second choice, my friend, is a little. This is an interesting one. I don't know if I'll watch it, but I'm intrigued by it. February 14th, it's another February 14th movie. it's It's a movie on Apple TV plus. It's called The Gorge. Oh, yeah. It looks fun. It looks up my alley, The Gorg.
03:23:13
Speaker
The Gorgi. The Gorgi. The Gorgi, as they say. Yeah, that that movie looks fun, because there's monsters in it. Dude, your fiancee is going to want to watch that. Just show her the trash. She's going to watch that. She's going to want to watch it. Honestly, we might ah actually just watch it on Valentine's Day. The interesting thing. Am I invited? Actually, unless you want to go see Captain America, but I think you're going to be busy with the move. so I will be busy. I will be busy those days, unfortunately. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:23:41
Speaker
No worries, no worries. It's a weird day to launch that, though. It's like you're launching alongside two really pretty big movies, one for a family and the other one kind of for a family, like an action movie that people are probably anticipating in Captain America and then and then Paddington and Peru. It's kind of um kind of strange, but Valentine's Day is a popular day for movies, I suppose. So it's a good day to to launch. Interestingly, ah The Gorge is a movie. Directed by Scott Derrickson.
03:24:09
Speaker
Yeah, Blackphone, Dr. Strange, the first Dr. Strange. Wait, isn't there another Blackphone movie coming out this year? There is, isn't there? Blackphone 2. How does that look exactly? We're not going to spoil Blackphone. We've got to be careful about that. But it's like, I don't, based on where it ended, I don't understand. There's more people in the phone. There's other people that that are phoning people. Yeah, there's the second phone maybe. Blackphone 2, second phone. Yeah, it's the second, yeah.
03:24:39
Speaker
Black phone, the second phone. Would you want to go see black phone, too? If it's. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah review Because it's pretty good. I don't give a shit. I'll watch it regardless. Who who cares? You know, honestly.
03:24:53
Speaker
um Ethan Hawke was very good. That was the. He was even also always very good. He's that's also true. He is always very good. Yeah.
03:25:06
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Yeah, that's true. um But yeah, what was I looking up? Oh, the gourd. Sorry. It's on your tail of joy. And what's his name? Miles Teller. And they're basically they're looking over there. They're competing snipers, I guess, over this giant gorge that apparently houses evil. There's and they've presumably fall in love. That's that's kind of what they're showing them. They fall in love. It's literally a long distance relationship.
03:25:31
Speaker
Yeah. Right. it's It's literally a long distance relationship is when it is. Yeah. They're communicating over the gorge and then the gorg. The cool thing is actually, to be fair, I maybe I haven't seen enough trailers, but the trailer I saw it doesn't give away the movie. Did you notice that? Like what's happening down there? We don't know. I love those monsters. No. Yeah, but we don't know what it is. Yeah, there's monsters. But what does that mean? That could be anything.
03:25:55
Speaker
We imagine it's not monsters. It's actually heaven as the opposite situation than we expected. But we never we don't see really much. We don't know. We don't know what happens. Like in the trailer, one of them dives down. I think it was Miles Teller's character. And then until Joy Joy jumps after him. Yeah. She's like, oh, I love you, Miles Teller. I completely forgot. We didn't even mention this as like an honorary mention, but Queen's Gambit is excellent. Oh, dude. Yeah, that's great. That's great. That's a great show. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. That's a great show. Yeah.
03:26:26
Speaker
Very good. There's so many movies. There's so many that I was going through that I just chose a few. I thought you would have more honorary mentions because. one More honor. We didn't even. uniting you The guy didn't even pick Bojack.
03:26:37
Speaker
I did it gave you an option you didn't want to you just I pause I wait and you're like I gotta go pee I'm gonna pee my pants and then I'll let you leave. Dude you're lucky you're lucky I left because you wouldn't have wanted to see that site there's piss everywhere like I said. you I'm drenched. I'm drenched right now it would have broken everything. I'm looking at you not drenched.
03:26:58
Speaker
Zencast or whatever. I'm using a filter on my webcam, Simon. You were going to say that. I'm using an AI filter. It's the dry filter. It's the unweft filter. Yeah. Right. It's the opposite. Okay. Cool. What's your next movie? What's your next TV show? What are you excited for? Coming up.
Reality Shows and New Series Highlights
03:27:15
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Coming up. What are you excited for? I'll be honest. This one I'm not like super excited for. this is one like it's It's not one of my favorite things, but I've watched the last couple seasons of it and it's been pretty good. But Love is Blind.
03:27:28
Speaker
Season eight is coming back on February 14th on Netflix. Another reality show to watch. I don't. So I watched the last two seasons of Love is Blind because like a bunch of our mutual friends watch it as well. Cassandra likes watching it.
03:27:43
Speaker
my fi um And we, you know, it's it's people sit in pods and they pretend that they fall in love and then they leave the pods and then they got to live together. um They go on a vacation and they live in, then they're like, oh, we're, this is a try. We're fake. We're married now. There's no other option. You have to get engaged to leave the pods with someone and then you got to lead up to the wedding. And if you if you don't get married, you have to break up. There's nothing in between. So. Right.
03:28:10
Speaker
Of course, it's not good. I'll be honest. It's not good. But there is some like quality drama. The pods portion. The worst part. Everyone's so they're like sitting. I love you. I love you. Person on the other side of this wall that I haven't seen that we just spoke for four minutes. Of course, I love you so much. It's stupid. It's very bad. It's enjoyable, though. OK, that's what you picked. Yeah, you can pick it up.
03:28:40
Speaker
What else is there? Invincible. Never even heard of it. I'm just kidding. I understand. I guess I can pick things that aren't fully done, but I feel like that's almost cop-out. Yeah. It's almost a cop-out. But that one's cool to do because we didn't list it last week, so it's got to look good on the awareness side.
03:28:59
Speaker
ah Yeah, we did. We did. If anyone listened to the first three and a half hours of this podcast. yeah But anyway, people typically only listen to the last 15 minutes of our podcast. Of course they do. yeah that's That's how I listen to the podcast isn't and how you listen to them. Come on. ye Anyway, the the last thing I'm going to mention that I won't mention invincible because I haven't written. I have like backups here that are the backups are essentially shows that are continuing just in case I don't have anything interesting to say because you've picked my picks, but you largely didn't pick my picks except for the Paddington and Peru. Love is blonde.
03:29:31
Speaker
Yeah, of course. That was on there. Yeah. Yeah. So, oh, no, my pick was chosen. So the last pick I'm going to go with is going to be more of an off the wall pick, maybe one you haven't heard of before, but you should have heard of it because I just talked about it briefly. ah But Netflix is zero day with Robert De Niro. Wow. You know, I haven't heard of it. This is a I think it's a limited series, but it's definitely a TV series, which is interesting because Robert De Niro has never done a TV series, really. Sure.
03:29:57
Speaker
Which is cool. So this Zero Day thing is separate from the trailer that we watched before Companion where Robert De Niro is two people. That's not Zero Day. That's something else. That's like, that's got a fancy name. That's got a real fancy name, but that's a movie. Robert De Niro is two people. So really, it's nothing related to what I'm talking about. Robert De Niro is in lots of things. robert de niro Actually, Harrison Ford is in lots of things that are very varied right now, but Robert De Niro is in lots of things just in general, which is awesome. It's awesome to see.
03:30:27
Speaker
Cause he's just, uh, he's a, he's in his car sometimes. i'm looking at what He's upcoming in, he's upcoming in like seven things. What the heck? Uh, the thing you're talking about where he plays two different people, Vito Genovese and Frank Costello is called the Alto nights. It's like a mob drama.
03:30:44
Speaker
So that's cool too, but that's not what I'm talking about. Um, cause I don't even think that's coming. I don't, does that have a date? I thought the date on that was not even listed. Regardless of that zero date, he plays an ex-president who's called in when there's a huge hack. It's zero day, basically. It's a huge hack that causes many different deaths across the United States. And so it's like a terrorist attack. And so he's, he's called in to like remedy the situation. I think the log line was something along the lines of,
03:31:11
Speaker
Who is the real enemy here, the terrorists or their own their own government or something like that? Because they start to take liberties to try and stop try and stop another attack from happening. But it's like how 9-11, not Cambridge, never forget but there was a prison, like that how they started monitoring like American people to try and avoid another terrorist attack kind of thing. They kind of took liberties because of a huge attack.
03:31:38
Speaker
um just to avoid really just stop it, but there's obviously privacy implications and problems there. That's what they seem to be asking is that obviously the terrorists who attacked at Zero Day are terrible human beings. It's not the question, it's a question of the the aftermath at that point, trying to stop it. Who's really, who are we most worried about as a society? Are we most worried about another attack or are we most worried about the the actual stopping of said attack?
03:32:07
Speaker
So that's what it is. Robert De Niro looks pretty intense in it. So on Netflix, it looks like it's pretty cool. It's launching on, oh man, I didn't write the date. What kind of amateur. I put it up in here in the notes here. It is launching on zero day. It is launching on February 20th. Nice. I don't know if I said release dates. Did I say release dates for everything?
03:32:28
Speaker
I don't- February 14th, Paddington in Peru. February 14th, Love is Blind. February 21st, Monkey. Monkey movie. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, I- How close are the apes? I said about Paddington because I i also picked it, so I mentioned it, but I don't i don't have Love is Blind 15 or whatever. Satan's on now. I think. think of it Adrian!
03:32:52
Speaker
this ah This ends our regular scheduled programming for this episode. We're going to have, again, the longest episode we've ever launched. Are we ever going to stop? Is it always going to increase in size these episodes? it know yeah I I a great time with you, Simon. I enjoy spending time with you. I enjoy talking to you. I enjoy so sharing our thoughts and feelings about movies and television and other things of that nature together. h I love our companionship.
03:33:21
Speaker
Oh, like the movie will watch companion that you didn't like that much, but I enjoyed quite a bit. I feel like this episode, episode 103 is just full of potential episode titles that we've, we're just like, we're, we're kind of spit balling. We're just workshopping episode titles the whole time. I love our companion shit. ah Yeah. Okay. Okay. Tiny butt man. All right, fine.
03:33:47
Speaker
What did you call me? I can say that. Nothing you wouldn't call yourself. Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Are you allowed to say any word that someone would call themselves? I'm just kidding. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't call you. What did you call yourself? A fucking idiot or something like that? Because you said Bojack Horseman. You're not. You're not, Adrian. You're okay. I'm a silly goose, dude. You can call me a silly goose.
03:34:12
Speaker
You're a silly humanoid goose. That's fucked up, actually. What you just called me is actually unbelievable. And we have done since then. I'm making a Bojack Horseman reference. You're not even getting the Bojack Horseman references. Maybe you should go watch Bojack Horseman after this. Bagel. At literally two in the morning. Bagel. This is crazy. I didn't realize. You notice this 1.52 AM in Canada and Ontario here?
03:34:35
Speaker
and No, I'm living on different time zone, typically. Okay, we should- I live in this time zone, but I just look at different times. So, depending on the day. You just live by- you live by- you live by, uh, Pacific. Yeah. Pacific, uh, what is it? Pacific ocean time? What is it? P-PST?
03:34:57
Speaker
Yeah, PTSD, Post Traumatic Down Syndrome. What? Down. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Oh, yeah. Speaking of Down Syndrome, this is a quick aside, nothing to do with Down Syndrome. What? There's there's, ah I guess, an honorable mention of a movie coming out. You you see the trailer for The Unbreakable Boy.
03:35:20
Speaker
It comes out February 21st, starring Zachary Levi and he's the dad to this kid that has autism. And it's actually one of the kids that was in the John Mulaney sack lunch bunch special, which is really good. But they're like, and it's like, I'm Zachary Levi and I'm the dad to this kid with autism. And he's like, I'm going to cure my son's autism. He doesn't actually say that, but it feels like the movies about this dad that overcomes his son's autism and makes him less autistic.
03:35:51
Speaker
I don't think that's how autism works. I'm pretty sure it was the trailer shows. That's how it feels like. I don't know. You can watch it. but There is something about this, though. I feel like I don't want to get political here, but I think Zachary Levi believes in like vaccines giving kids autism. Yeah. There is some like I'm curious, like that's interesting that he's in this because I think there's a there's a he definitely there's some vaccine situation with Zachary Levi. So him being in an autism movie.
03:36:23
Speaker
Hmm. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
03:36:31
Speaker
You're shifting your eyes. What what is it? What's wrong? Nothing. We got to wrap this up, Adrian. Do you have anything else to say before we go? No. I'm done. I've said everything I had to say. I'm going to never say anything again for the rest of the episode starting. I'm going to not say anything for the rest of the episode start starting in three, two. I'm done saying stuff right now. One.
03:37:01
Speaker
You're a liar, though. You're going to say something when I close right now. Yeah, you are. I'm going to end it right now. And part of my sign off, the lingo I use in the sign off I've used since the first episode of Split Focus, I don't know if I maybe you should change it. But anyway, you're going to say something. And you're kind of saying something right now. You're saying, that's a word. that' that That's a thing. That's you saying something.
03:37:23
Speaker
Mm-mm. You're a weirdo. Thank you for listening, folks, to episode 103 of Swift Focus a Film and TV Podcast. My name is Simon Edie, and this is Adrian Pinter. Signing off. Mm-hmm. Goodbye.