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117. Pussy Poppin' Peacemaker
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Adrian & Simon review director Zach Cregger’s horror film, Weapons; and James Gunn’s Season 2 Episode 1 of Peacemaker. Plus, they take a look at the various film & TV trailers released this week; including trailers for the Daniel Day Lewis starring Anemone, the Jason Bateman directed Black Rabbit on Netflix, Fallout Season 2, and horror film following a dog’s perspective, Good Boy. Additionally, they consider the possibility of YouTube controlling the distribution rights to the Oscars in 2029, they gush about how much they love the FX series, The Bear; and they re-examine the brilliance of the first season of Stranger Things. They also take a look at the box office history for Superman films over the last 12 years, they bond over their love of Nestea, and they ponder the alternate universe where Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson plays Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars.
This episode was recorded in Canada on August 23rd 2025. Episodes air every two weeks on Tuesdays! Catch us on September 9th for Episode 118.
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Reviews & Reactions
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This episode, we review James Gunn's Peacemaker Season 2 Episode 1 and director Zach Kreger's horror film Weapons. We discuss YouTube's interest in purchasing the rights for the 2029 Academy Awards ceremony.
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And we get hyped about the trailers for Amazon's Fallout Season 2, Netflix's Jason Bateman-directed crime drama Black Rabbit, and the Daniel Day-Lewis starring film
Host Introductions & Humor
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Anemone. My name is Adrian Pinter. And I'm Simon Eadie. Welcome to Split Focus, a film and TV podcast, episode 117. Hello. Hello. Hello.
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la la la no la bla la la la wait
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You hear that, Simon?
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to be at audience
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hear that simon You hear the sound of that, Simon? I did, yeah. That's the sound of a refreshing can of Ness tea. Oh! Back at it baby. We're back. Life's good again, man.
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Right. Life's good again. To be fair, I don't think you've ever talked on the podcast, i don't know if that matters, but about Fuse and how you
In-Depth Beverage Discussions
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don't like it. You've talked to me many times in person about that.
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But Nestea became Fuse somehow because of some licensing agreement issues. So Coca-Cola's version of iced tea is then became not Nestea anymore, but Fuse. But then Nestea somehow just came back to Canada.
00:01:38
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Did it ever leave the United States? like What's the deal with that? Can you explain it? Give me a history lesson on iced tea here. Okay, so I'm going to tell you. I don't care about the United States, so I won't tell you about their history. But I'll tell you the history here.
00:01:51
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You know? um Well, I don't care about the United States in regards to their Nestea accessibility, is my point. I mean, a lot of our podcasts are very United States-centric. We're not doing Bollywood films here. But anyway, yeah.
00:02:03
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Go on. um So, last year at some point, think coming to a close of last year, Coca-Cola owned... Yeah, again, the I guess the distribution rights to Nestea, right? Right. And I guess the contract between...
00:02:19
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you know, Coca-Cola being able to provide an ST to us wonderful Canadian human beings, was was ending. So what they did is that they they released this new iced tea product called Fuse, which is simply put, not good.
00:02:35
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it's It's just, it's not great at all. So the recipe had to change, not just the branding. Yeah, correct, correct. Correct. it's it's It's nowhere near similar. It's a little bit more like tea flavored as opposed to sugar like Nestea is. um So they got rid of it.
00:02:51
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It was awful. i was I was disappointed. Nestea, like I'm not much of a pop drinker, Simon. Right. I think you know this about me. You know, i usually get ah get a water with my meal. um Maybe, you know, like if I'm at a restaurant, maybe I'll get like a Caesar, which is a- You know, like a beverage.
00:03:08
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Yes. and Not the man. Which is a Canadian beverage, actually. yeah Not the man, Julius. Not the man. Nor the salad. Nor the salad. Right. or Okay. Yeah. And i I would get, you know, like maybe Caesar, maybe a beer, you know, depending on the place I'm going and what I'm eating, right? You know, I don't i don't necessarily want to eat a beer with a steak. You don't want to eat a beer at all. If I'm eating chicken wings. Potentially. Yeah.
00:03:28
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Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're very weird. Ow, ow, ow. You know? I just made an emotion of eating ah beer hi there. And a really bad sound effect. I apologize. Continue. No, no, it was great, dude. It was great. Don't put yourself down. we' We're only a couple minutes in. You shouldn't put your down yourself down yet. Maybe a little bit later you can. I'll allow it.
00:03:46
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But right now, don't do it. Okay? Mm-hmm. So long story short, they got rid of Nestea in Canada. We didn't have it. We just had the Nestea powder that you could add into water. I'm not going to do that. I'm not some 13th century peasant making my own beverages like that, okay?
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um Yeah, that's how they did it. So I was i was very disappointed in in this in this case. But when Nestea disappeared, they did say Keurig, the company that does the coffee pods and stuff, right they purchased the distribution rights to Nestea and I guess the recipe as well.
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How did this happen? I don't quite understand, though. I have no idea, dude. I have no idea. I think Keurig owns Dr. Pepper as well. Oh. I think that, yeah. Oh, that's them. could be wrong.
00:04:31
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Yeah, I think so. um So they they still got some pops that they distribute. Yeah, check that ah check that out for me. I'm pretty confident in that. i don't really like Dr. Pepper, though. Do you like Dr. Pepper? It's called Keurig. The company called is called Keurig Dr. Pepper.
00:04:45
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KDP is the short, the acronym. Oh, okay. Good to know. Yeah. Do you like Dr. Pepper? It was a merger in 2018. It's a so merger between Dr. Pepper Snapple Group and Keurig Green Mountain.
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Oh. Huh. i don't i don't I don't know if I've ever had Dr. Pepper to answer your question. Oh, really? i don't like Dr. Pepper. Yeah, not much of a pop guy. You're not much of but it's a weird one, though. It's like kind like a weird medicine-like flavor. Yeah, it's like herbal. Is that right?
00:05:13
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It's herbal. Oh, okay. Yeah, there's something off with it. i don't like it. It's not good. T-shirt on, though. If you want to eat Dr. Pepper, go for it. Yeah, eat it up. Eat it up, baby. Eat it up. But anyways. can't tell if that was intentional this time or or not. But you keep saying eat drinks. It's weird.
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Okay? Yeah. Yeah, no, it is. It is on purpose all these times. Okay. Or it's not. I don't know. I'll leave it up to you. I don't think it was the first time. I think you made a mistake, but just continue. Probably. Anyway, so Nesty's back, baby, is what you're saying.
00:05:45
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Exactly, dude. They brought it back. We're eight months into the year. You know, I had no Nesty for eight months. And fun fun fact, you know, i had special, I had like four cans of Nesty stored in my fridge since Easter because my godparents, we always go to my godparents for Easter.
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And they actually had four cans and ST left and they gave it to me because they knew I like nasty. So I was like, I was like, at like, you micro dose and nasty for a while. But now I don't have to. Now can get nasty as much as I want.
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It's back, baby. And that's ultimately. um That's it. That's all I got for you. Good. You know what's interesting? I don't know if we ever discussed this, like, actually, but I don't drink a lot of pop, as you know, as well, most likely. But I also, Nesty is my favorite, quote-unquote, pop.
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Did I tell you that before? I feel like I maybe knew that, but I don't as a kid, like, that was my favorite one. I feel like it's your favorite one. as It is. As evidenced by this story, which is, and you probably just said it out verbatim like that.
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But... but Anyway, um no, it's crazy. I feel like that's something we have in common. I feel like I didn't know that. and Maybe the only thing we have in common. and I don't think I truly knew that until now.
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Yeah, the only thing we had in common. Yeah. Sure. um you know what yeah do you Do you like pairing things? you know I mean, obviously, you know, there's pairings, right? Like good food pairings, food and drink pairings, right?
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I don't have anything for Ness T, if that's what you're about to say. I do. I do. And it's okay pretzels. Pretzels and Nest Eman. Are you talking about like soft pretzels, like Mr. Pretzel type pretzels? Or are you like the hard pretzels?
00:07:19
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The hard pretzels that you get like in like a bag at the grocery store. okay Yeah. Those together, Matchman and Heaven, Chef's Kiss is like my favorite combination. I don't do it too often.
00:07:31
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When I was a kid, though, I used to go over to like a family friend's house and we would literally play video games and eat just a bag of pretzels and drink... Copious amounts of nasty, man.
00:07:41
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Copious. Okay. Wow. Yeah. So, yeah, anyway, it's back. It's back, baby. You actually texted me an image of Nesty at the grocery store. Because you were so, like, down about it. I thought it would cheer you up.
00:07:55
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Yeah, I found the Nesty. I think the sign said Nesty's back or something like that in the local Zairs, my local grocery store here in Guelph, Ontario. Yeah. So, anyway. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, thought you'd be excited.
00:08:06
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so I am excited, dude. I am. I did so much for you. Anyway, ah yeah, the... Yeah, or should we move on to film and TV? Actually, I have one more thing to talk about before we move squarely into the film and TV realm again.
Gaming Industry Insights
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This ah is a film and TV podcast. But I was curious, did you watch the, we didn't talk about this, did you watch the Gamescom?
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Gamescom, like, what was it called? Gamescom First Night Live? live oh Opening, opening, not First Night Live. What am I, child? Yeah, we're opening the night live with Jeff Keighley. And I'm just curious, what did you think about it? And is there any highlight for you? There's one specific highlight for me. So I'm curious if there's something for you.
00:08:44
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um I mean, I thought it was okay. I really love Jeff Keighley. i just I think he's a Canadian treasure. He gives it his all when he's doing these presentations. But this presentation to me was a little bit lackluster. There wasn't anything new or incredibly exciting. Like new game announcements that I was like, oh my god, I gotta do this right away.
00:09:03
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um so like At least off the top of my head, I can't really remember. So I wasn't like super into it. But they did show off a little bit more of Resident Evil 9. Resident Evil Requiem looks fantastic. Ghost of Yote looks super cool.
00:09:18
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And they announced the cool co-op mode that they had for Ghost of Tsushima, the Legends mode, which we played a decent amount. Not not not too much. But we announced it. yeah Enough, I feel like there was like. There was a lot of... It was deeper than we played. I think we only played it like for two hours or something.
00:09:35
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Oh, really? I feel like maybe you and I, maybe you play with somebody else. Yeah, I don't think so. Because we we dabbled in the survival and we're like, we kind of like, I kind of like this, we both said, and then we never went back to it again.
00:09:47
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If I recall correctly, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it was a little longer. Maybe it's five hours. But yeah, it's cool that that's going to be on Ghost of Yotei in 2026. It's going to be available. That yeah multiplayer mode, which is cool because it's free as well. And then Yeah, it's neat that they did that.
00:10:02
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I like that. You know, a lot of people are talking about like in the industry, like a video game industry, the video game industry is so toxic. I mean, most industries are right. Like the the the fans of it. And everyone's always like, got greed, corporate greed, everyone, the blah blah, blah, blah, blah. Sony's bullshit. They're, they're screwing their customers over. They're so greedy, but it's like,
00:10:21
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No, they've released like multiple games now and and have done like significant updates, free updates. Like God of War Ragnarok had that awesome Valhalla mode that came out. It was totally free included. Exactly. sure And, you know, like their PS5 upgrades, they're like, you know, 15 bucks, but they're pretty substantial updates and they usually come with a new mode and everything like that. I don't know. i I'm more than happy to pay the price of admission know for a lot of those.
00:10:47
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It cuts both ways, though. I think that's part of it, too. like it Like, it cuts both ways. And then some companies are more greedy than others. And I think it's important to give credit where credit's due. And I think that's the problem is that gamers don't give credit where credit's due. They're very loud when something's not in their favor. But when it's in their favor, perhaps they're not quite as loud and as happy about it and celebrating it as much as they should. Like, there's that Steam controversy right now with the the payment...
00:11:13
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The credit card providers. Yeah. And like kind of pushing, pushing steam around. And I don't think steam is doing a good job to be fair with that. I also think the steam is a big bully in the industry personally. So I just think they bully everyone around to submission and they don't really make a product that,
00:11:29
Speaker
that maybe deserves a 30% cut on every game they sell. It seems a little bit high considering they only make software. don't know I've ever told you that before. I just don't i don't love Steam that much as as much as everyone else does, but everyone loves Steam. It's like the most positive thing in the games industry, except for this month where they're being completely lambasted online because of the the way that they're handling their censorship.
00:11:53
Speaker
And I feel like they could have just done That's not really censorship and like not had ridiculous games on their store for years. Yeah, they're incredibly egregious and that are essentially like rape simulators and like child molestation simulators, some moderation like some way. I think that would have helped them. And then the payment processors wouldn't have come in like Visa and MasterCard and gotten mad at them and pushed them to such an extent. And I feel like Steam should said no to some of it. And then yes to yes, we'll remove the rape simulator.
00:12:24
Speaker
No worries. Like, I don't know why why you have to get bullied by the the payment processors to that extent. It just seems weird that they... Anyway. So now they're getting negative press. The reason why i don't I'm not as super high ah as high on Steam as everyone else, and I've bought stuff on Steam before. i used to primarily play on PC games, is because they bullied the industry into at least the PC side of the industry into not having physical games be a thing. that's the only real I feel like that's the main reason physical games aren't thing and because they take a 30% cut, but they only make a piece of software. They don't make hardware like Apple does or PlayStation does or Xbox. like The fact that you know games are purchased...
00:13:05
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What the heck was that? What? I don't know. Something just played in my ears, but I don't know where it came from. Somewhere on my computer. Someone was like, I like spending.
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and i was like ah Anyway, now it just sounds like I'm crazy because you didn't hear that too. I thought we both heard that. anyway ah Anyway, the point I was making is Steam, they're just making software. It's a platform for holding games as a storefront, but they're not making any hardware like Apple does. But Apple is one being sued by Epic Games, who also has a storefront on the PC.
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And Epic has a lower cut than everyone else does. But for some reason, they chose Apple who makes hardware that the app store like literally sells. And so you can't play the games unless the hardware exists. And Apple spends so much money on their chip manufacturing.
00:13:53
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I'm not defending Apple because Apple makes a bunch of stupid things, stupid decisions too. But in general, it's weird that you would attack Apple who's got the same like pretty much standardized 30% cut on software that everyone else has been
Kojima & Gaming Narratives
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charging. You know what I'm saying? Does that make sense?
00:14:07
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yeah Yeah, I get where you're coming from. yeah because Steam, again, is is quite literally just a software company. Yeah. as oppos It's almost weird. Like, how does Windows not have, like, a built-in one that is just raing it in cash raking in cash? Like, it's strange. like its Like, they don't even make the operating system that Steam lies on. it It's such a strange – it's not like they're making, like, a Linux version. or You know what I mean? Like, they're not making the hardware or – well to be fair system now like it's like i mean ta doesty yeah the steam deck um so there is that and like there is you can literally install like an operating system on your pc that is literally just steam operate like a steam os right so but then you take a cut on that operating system that's fair that's what apple would do too right you know mean like that makes sense you would take the that 30 cut on the on the spot like this if you're buying it on steam os you you take a cut i don't know whatever
00:14:58
Speaker
They should always take a cut. I think that for sure. I just think their cut's way too high and Epic didn't sue them. They sued Apple first. I just thought that that was strange. It's just like, don't you know who your competitor is? like Your direct competitor is Steam. like You're not really directly competing competing with Apple that much. I know Fortnite obviously is on Apple devices and Android and all that.
00:15:15
Speaker
But I also Android is Fortnite on Apple devices. I thought it still was not. They just brought it back. Didn't they just sort that out for a temporary time? And then maybe it was taken off again. That that fight's been going on for a long time.
00:15:28
Speaker
But Fortnite. Yeah, to get off games incredibly not smoothly, although it can be similar to our talk about TV and film in a second. I just finished Death Stranding 2, and what a masterpiece this thing is. Oh, my God.
00:15:42
Speaker
It's my favorite game of the year by far. I love it. I think the music is is is like by Woodkid and and lu ah Ludwig Forstall. It's really great. like I think it's awesome. I think Hideo Kojima, like the game director, like did a fantastic job. I also think that the way he tells stories, he hes he's so exposition heavy sometimes. And then he doesn't tell you enough sometimes. And he's just got such a unique storytelling technique.
00:16:06
Speaker
He's almost like unshackled by conventional storytelling in some way. I just think it's so impressive. There's so many times I teared up playing the game. The way the game ends, I was like literally kind of broken, like heartbroken a little bit in the way it was told.
00:16:18
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I just, I love it. i loved it. And it would the it's crazy. The ending is insane. It's so cool. I know, dude. The ending in general, like the last chapter, whatever, the last two, I guess. Yeah, it's crazy because the last three, are they episodes? Is it called episode 10?
00:16:34
Speaker
No, sorry, not 10. Episode 16 and 15. I can't remember if it was. I think so. That seems right. It's been like a month since I beat it. The last two parts. It just Amazing. I just like love it so much. and I'm curious to see how this will ever translate to a ah movie because, again, Michael Sarnofsky, the director of Pig and A Quiet Place Day One, is making a film for Death Stranding. I feel like it's a TV show. You should not be making a film for this, but good luck.
00:16:58
Speaker
Good luck to you, sir.
Superhero Film Discussions
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Yeah, i I really hope he goes the route of not just telling the exact same story and he just tells like a story within the world. like that Because they are doing that like animated show where it's supposed to... which is announced to be that, yeah.
00:17:10
Speaker
That way he's just described it. Yeah, because I just... i Yeah, I don't know how the fuck you tell this... story in a two hour long film um yeah i mean even the first one right like but let alone like telling the story of the second one it's crazy man there's so many unique and cool characters that you know have such good interplay with each other and i don't know man like it's how do you do this like i he's got a lot on his hands because although that game is so cinematic and The gameplay is really what makes it so special as well.
00:17:41
Speaker
Like, I love the story of Death Stranding. you know, I love the characters. I love the way it unfolds. But a lot of it is, is how good the gameplay is and how much I loved building roads and driving to and fro and like using these zip lines and zipping about.
00:17:58
Speaker
Like the the gameplay loop is immaculate. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just it's complemented by ah phenomenal story as well. So like it's very cinematic storytelling, especially the second game, though. it It is really is crazy. And like I just think about, again, some of Woodkid's songs like the story of Rainy. I like I almost hear up like listening to it. It's really great, and really powerful stuff. Man, Woodkid's awesome.
00:18:23
Speaker
I hope Woodkid scores films and TV shows. He goes the route of like the Nine Inch Nails guys like Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. That would be really cool. because i Some of those that music is also like reminiscent of almost like the spy genre I think it's Ash Fulte Maelstrom, that song.
00:18:42
Speaker
And there's a couple others that he's got in there that are just very... They're just very like spy, almost James Bond-esque. Like he could almost score like the, or like do the song for the intro of the next James Bond movie. Yeah.
00:18:54
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah yeah, that would be cool, man. I hope he blows up because of this. Because, yeah, I mean, he's been like he's had songs in in in shows and movies in the past.
00:19:05
Speaker
But it's like but they use his songs. He didn't make them. Yeah. He didn't like compose it for it. So like, yeah, I hope he can become a composer for movies and TV shows and more video games. Hell, man, I'll see him. Just a quick step back.
00:19:16
Speaker
You didn't tell me what you like the most ah about oh and like opening night live. You just kind of moved on. Oh, yeah. Thanks. Thanks for remembering because I just – Yeah, no worries. We're tangential. We'll just move on on various tangents and then they'll return.
00:19:29
Speaker
Thank God you remembered. Well, yeah. So the one thing I liked at Gamescom was I loved the the the one thing. i was like I was like, I knew this was coming because they there was leaks about it, but the Lego Batman game looks freaking awesome. It literally looks incredible.
00:19:44
Speaker
And I watched more gameplay after. And I was like, this is – it's pulling in all of these various things of Batman, like the Batman, like ah Matt Reeves is the Bat Reeves versus the Batman. There's the Christopher Nolan verse. There's the Michael Keaton Batman movies.
00:19:59
Speaker
um it's like by tim burton i feel like that it's just honoring all the batman legacy in one game and it's a lego game as well and it's honoring like lego batman it's also honoring in give video games like rock steady's batman games like the archimic games in the biggest way possible in the combat which the combat looks so amazing is it looks like the best lego game combat i've ever seen ah in a lego game i don't think there's any lego game that i really love the the combat that gameplay yeah be fair i don't know if you've got one that's memorable but I think it looks great. There's only one thing I don't like about this game, actually. Oh, please. Tell me tell me what you think about
00:20:34
Speaker
no but No, no, no, no. I'm into it. I was actually going to ask you a question about other Lego games. Did you ever play the Rise of Skywalker, the the Skywalker Saga Lego game? I didn't end up playing it, no. Me neither. Because apparently they updated like a lot of the combat in that because it's like third person over the shoulder shooting and stuff like that.
00:20:52
Speaker
Oh, that's cool. I never played it either. I should jump into that maybe for a little bit. It was free on PS Plus like a year ago. I know. I have it. yeah I should play it. yeah like Sorry, continue. what What don't you like about it? There's only one thing I didn't love. And it's like it's so unfortunate because I feel like they got everything right. And I'm almost shocked.
00:21:09
Speaker
I actually am. I'm shocked that they didn't do this. But I'm assuming it was a it can't make the guy's contract situation. The choice for Batman, I'm like... Why didn't they pick Will Arnett? They didn't try to hire Will Arnett? What happened? like that would have been They literally would have been a slam dunk. That game would have been so good in every way. Will Arnett's performance for Lego Batman is really great.
00:21:31
Speaker
It's my favorite part by far of the Lego Batman movie. it's just He's just such a good job. He's so over the top. And his voice is really great. That's why he's in like 15 different brand commercials, you know, for various cars and things.
00:21:45
Speaker
and So i'm i'm I'm disappointed that that didn't happen. and I don't know who the Batman actor is, but it I just keep comparing him every time I hear himm like, oh, yeah, it's not Will Arnett. But he's Lego Batman and in the movie. So there's a... I was looking at the trailer for it and everyone down below, there was like, not everyone, but there's like maybe two comments I read that two or three that were saying, uh, rest in peace, like, uh, Kevin Conroy.
00:22:08
Speaker
And I'm like, Kevin Conroy. Like I know Kevin Conroy voices the animated Batman in various, various mediums, but did he maybe voice Batman and Lego one time? Like, I don't, that's not really what that I don't really think. it's funny. Kevin Conroy, iconic Batman.
00:22:25
Speaker
Don't get me wrong. Obviously the probably may be the quintessential Batman in some aspects in some people's minds. But I think that Will Arnett almost for, for Lego, that's, what's cool about it though. It's Lego. That's what's, it's crazy. It's Lego, right? So it's a very campy, silly Batman. Cause there's a Lego Batman. So Will Arnett's better than Kevin Conroy in that setting, I think.
00:22:44
Speaker
But yes, rest in peace, Kevin Conroy, of course. i just They were all pointing out that Kevin Conroy wasn't playing this Lego Batman because he had passed away like a few years ago. And I was like, but i no one mentioned Will Arnett one time. I kept scrolling down. like, no one knows this is Will Arnett's baby. This is who he plays.
00:23:00
Speaker
I listened to Smart List, like his podcast with Jason Bateman and Sean Hayes. And they've there's many guests who come on and say, oh, my kids love you as Batman. they're You're their Batman.
00:23:10
Speaker
I'm like... Yeah, that's that makes sense. But nobody, nobody in the comments for this trailer for like the Warner Brothers official channel, like mentions at once. I was like, i I must have missed it. Maybe there was buried somewhere. But anyway, I thought that was weird.
00:23:25
Speaker
I thought that was a miss as well. That's actually a good point. I didn't even think about that a single time. I kind of forgot about the Lego Batman movie and the Lego movies. But yeah, like that Lego Batman movie was really good. It is really good. That's why i want it. Yeah.
00:23:39
Speaker
Yeah, that's why I want the War net. Yeah. Play about. Oh, well, it's crazy. What can you do? I still think I'm going to play this, it but it did turn me off of it a little bit. Like if if he was in it, I would be like pre-ordered. but really on nothing about that because that because it looks so good the arkham style combat looks so good in it not just because of will or net but like you hit every nail on the head that was kind of my thought is like you missed that one thing and i i'm a big fan of will or net i feel like he's not in enough stuff and so uh that's kind of my thought process on it but anyway that's the one thing i was i was thinking those look really good at gamescom i thought that was like the the best showing and they even had the one of the game directors or like one of the producers on stage to talk about it and that guy did a great job presenting as well he said really like a really good flair to him and so I appreciated everything about that presentation I thought I was kind of surprised because there was nothing else that surprised me I was kind of bored for the Gamescom show I agree completely it was two hours of nothing too crazy they spent like 25 minutes talking about a Monster Hunter Final Fantasy collab I was like what is happening here dude like I think And it kept on going every time you thought it was going to end. They're like, but wait, there's more. We're also doing more Final Fantasy and Monster Hunter. We're also doing Monster Hunter and Final Fantasy. I was like, Jesus Christ, guys, come on, move on. This is just a big commercial.
00:25:01
Speaker
um Yeah. Yeah, it was... It is kind of always a big commercial, but the think that snippets is what kind of sells You you know what I mean? Like, you got a snippet of this game here, snippet of this game here. It's just... i don' It's not that I'm, like, saying the Gamescom presentation, like, opening light like no opening night live was bad, per se.
00:25:18
Speaker
I just... there's not There's less for me, and especially when they spend a lot of time on anime games like the Hoyoverse games, like the Genshin Impact. I just don't – I don't know if Genshin Impact was there, but the other – like there was like a – what was it? ah Adam and Eve Zone Zero?
00:25:35
Speaker
There's one that was like ah like a thing like – what is it called now? There's one that's strange, and they always got you know these – large breasted anime women in it.
00:25:45
Speaker
Yeah. And don't know. It's cool, but I just, I'm not not that into that, that genre of game. yeah I'm just like, I'm like, ah, okay, I'll just eat my snacks and watch it. But I'm always, and I'm always interested to see what the game industry is doing. But again, that's where the surprises for Lego Batman was.
00:26:02
Speaker
That's where it kind of, ah that really surprised me. was like, oh wow, they actually have an announcement that i care about a little bit. Anyway, that's it. That's all I got to say. Right on, man. Yeah, it's good stuff. um Yeah, ah good stuff indeed. Oh, ah this isn't, I don't know if I didn't put this in my new segment, so I'm just going to mention this now.
00:26:23
Speaker
Did you look at, so for Superman, we're going to, we're now we're going to, we're going to, this is like an appetizer before we get into our quick, quick bite news.
Superman & Tarantino Speculations
00:26:31
Speaker
The Superman movie, did you look at like what it's at for the, for the box office recently?
00:26:38
Speaker
No, I have not. Should I, or are you going to tell me? I just was curious to see – because this is a very interesting thing. I don't know if a lot of places reported on this or if I just missed it. there was But there was there was a lot of talk about ah Superman, how there was a there's less people watching movies that are very American – in foreign countries internationally. And I was thinking about what does that mean?
00:27:03
Speaker
yeah Why? Yeah, right. yeah we know We know what the reason is, but it's interesting because like i was I was wondering, like is that true? like How much is that true? so i was I was thinking, what was the last Superman movie that came out? There was purely a Superman movie, and the last one before was a long time ago, actually. It's crazy to think it's actually was more than 10 years. yeah A lot of these franchises are like beaten to death, but this one, they actually had ah a gap. but Superman came out in 2025, obviously, this year. Man of Steel came out in 2013.
00:27:36
Speaker
Man of Steel at a box office worldwide of $670 million. Nice. Superman has just reached $600 million, which is pretty cool. Oh, okay. sure that they're happy about that in some way, especially because it's now on streaming services, which we're about to get into. It's crazy.
00:27:52
Speaker
Yeah. um I don't know why I'm talking about this now because i really I feel like I have a news story about that. So maybe I should just ah say the say the thing. But anyway, let's dive into some quick bites of news, Adrian, a component of our show where we discuss three to seven film and TV industry news stories that have been somewhat zeitgeisty over the past two weeks.
00:28:11
Speaker
yeah mini nuium Okay, so let's get back into it. So basically, $600 million dollars is what they're at now, which is, I think, pretty good. Yeah, pretty cool. But obviously, they might not meet Man of Steel now because they might not beat it because of the fact that Superman is launched on streaming services as of August 15th.
00:28:32
Speaker
That's the first story I have here is Gunn is hyping up Peacemaker with the streaming launch of Superman because it's related directly. And so that's something that's really strange because it's like a month.
00:28:42
Speaker
they They gave it a month. um Was it a month or maybe a month and a week? on ah in theaters before they brought up the streaming services which i thought was the first week of july it came out yeah first right right first week of july and then jurassic world was the wait don't know the week before jurassic world was the first week and then it was and then it was superman and it was fantastic four first steps after that it was a very busy july yeah but the point i'm making and this is the longest point longest journey I'm making you on a highway to the point here is basically the point of making is Man Steel made $291 million dollars domestically Superman's million overall but it domestically actually made million
00:29:26
Speaker
oh they're about And then if you take a look at the international, like ni international, were we're, by the way, we're domestic in Canada. Canada can't, for some reason, I don't quite understand why it's quite strange because I guess our theater chains work in a very, ah like operationally very similar to the United States. We're always grouped in.
00:29:45
Speaker
It's because we're the 51st state, Simon. It's very obvious. Oh boy, don't do that. But yeah. ah So anyway, domestically, 291 million for Man of Steel, but they made internationally 379 million.
00:29:59
Speaker
Whereas internationally, Superman made, I mean, you could do the math, I guess, but 253 million. So like way down in comparison. So that is true, it seems like there's ah there's a negative sentiment toward the United States because domestically, people are lining up to go see Superman, but not internationally in comparison to Man of Steel, of course.
00:30:18
Speaker
Not in comparison to like the Avengers or something like that. But it is interesting to see that that seems to be true just based on those numbers. Although it is 12 years of of a gap. So maybe again, there's other factors that play into that a little bit. But you would think as well, like in 2013, theaters were booming in a lot much different way.
00:30:35
Speaker
and We've had COVID. we've We also have a shorter... theater theatrical release schedules now where they they're only kept in theaters for a shorter time whereas it used to be a 90 day it was 90 days right yeah and they shut it they changed it to 45 days in some yeah some capacity even before that it it would be like six months and then before that it was like a full year um right so yeah it's a 90 day i think it was a 90 day window though in 2013 um i think maybe like i don't know they had Maybe it wasn't, actually. That's a good point. What was the theatrical window in 2013? Anyway, I thought that was an interesting little thing there. what do you think about it going to to streaming so quickly to HBO Max?
00:31:14
Speaker
like It's crazy because I did look up the the release date for Superman was July 11th. So it's been literally, yeah, like a month and not even a full week. um So... That's kind of odd. I mean, cool, I guess.
00:31:27
Speaker
I'm sure the box office has kind of trickled down enough that they thought, you know what, let's put it on streaming services. Maybe this will boot boost HBO Max numbers. It's not on Crave here yet. So I don't know where it's going to be on here in Canada, but I guess you can just buy it.
00:31:43
Speaker
or rent it at home. um So there's that going for it. I think that's just like a really quick turnaround. um But, you know, if this was maybe James Gunn's decision because he wants to, you know, push people to get a streaming service so they watch Peacemaker season two,
00:31:59
Speaker
I mean, I guess we'll see how that works out for him. That's specifically what he said. um He's a very vocal man. He says a lot of things. And he said that actually he said we the reason why Superman is going to streaming is because I want people to be prepped Peacemaker because it's completely related, which is weird because it is very rated R like the content of Peacemaker, especially the first episode of season two.
00:32:21
Speaker
And we'll get into that I'm sure later. i did. Yeah. Because I was very excited about it. I don't like week to week releases, but this one i'm I'm very excited about. So I just thought I would watch it. I don't want to get spoiled, but I like, I thought it was crazy because it's so rated R. And so he's like really talking about it constantly, like peacemaker season two, it's related to Superman. He's like saying, this is why Superman is on streaming services right now and all that stuff. But then it's like, I mean, half your audience probably can't watch it in the, like the people you're talking to, I guess, aren't going to watch it.
00:32:53
Speaker
um Watch Peacemaker, I'm saying, or or watch Superman to prep for Peacemaker because that's not really what they're looking for because they can't or should really should not watch it. um But yeah, it's crazy.
00:33:05
Speaker
but But yeah, that's the that's the that's the first story there. Anything else, Dad? um No, no. I'm excited to dive into Peacemaker with you, though, um because I have a few thoughts.
00:33:16
Speaker
Mostly positive. We will get mostly positive. We will get there for sure. Mostly little. Maybe some negative. Okay. That's exciting. Okay. This is somewhat of a... The second thing here I've got written is somewhat of a correction ah from last week or maybe three weeks ago, four weeks ago.
00:33:33
Speaker
and don't know why i said three. we We do this podcast every two weeks, so probably four weeks ago. But the correction is we talked about Quentin Tarantino's next movie and how he's been like delaying and delaying and delaying directing and really it seems like writing his last movie because he's...
00:33:47
Speaker
and think the boy's scared a little bit. I think he's scared that his legacy will be tarnished by whatever he chooses as a 10th film. And I'd like to say, again, I've said this before, Tarantino, my man, do not do 10 films. It's too much pressure and there's no point because you like filmmaking.
00:34:03
Speaker
You love it. It's like Kojima, actually. Kojima, Hideo Kojima, the director of Death Stranding, recently said, I'm going to be making movies well into my 90s. I think he said that because Tom Cruise said that. and he tried Instead of Kojima relating himself to Tarantino, he's not like, oh, I'm going to do 10 games and then stop.
00:34:22
Speaker
He said what Tom Cruise said, which was, I'm just going to be making movies until I'm dead, essentially, which i think is better. And I think Tarantino loves film. So I don't know why you would put a – ah you putting a clock on this? It seems strange. Anyway, the point I'm making and the thing we got wrong sort of is that The Adventures of Cliff Booth, which is actually the movie now being directed by David Fincher, written by Tarantino, is not the same movie that I think we claimed was the movie critic film. And I think many other people said that too, because that's why we made the mistake, because I just used some reporting from some publication that said that.
00:34:57
Speaker
So those are not the same movie, but the movie critic did take place in the same time period as, as once upon a time in Hollywood and the adventures of cliff booth is a prequel to once upon a time in Hollywood, but they're not the same. It's a prequel.
00:35:12
Speaker
I said, is it a sequel?
00:35:16
Speaker
That was mine, but maybe I'm Maybe it's sequel. I thought it was like a prequel sequel. like there therere They're going to like hop back and pull his his life apart and like make ah like kind of look at his his life in total.
00:35:29
Speaker
Yeah, I guess because maybe it is a sequel. Maybe you're right. yeah But anyway, the point is it's not the same movie because there was the rumors were. that and I don't even know if there were rumors. The the claim was that Cliff Booth used to work at it some kind of porno magazine and he used to write reviews in the.
00:35:48
Speaker
Yeah, no, we definitely reported on it because it was said in a publication. So it's not our correction. Somebody else made this mistake. I don't know which major publication, but that's bar variety. I don't know, maybe, or Deadline or The Hollywood Reporter. Those are the three we usually use.
00:36:02
Speaker
But yeah, I don't know. I thought that was strange because that theres that would mean would mean that he wrote two movies. They are kind of in the same time period, although unrelated to each other. Because again, the movie critic was not going to be related at all to Cliff Booth's story, except for being in the same time period.
00:36:18
Speaker
Yeah, wasn't it like meant to be in the same universe, though? that was like It is. but maybe It's the same okay time period, is same same town. Well, it's Hollywood. Okay, understood. understood so So yeah. um yeah Oh, sorry sorry to interrupt. The Adventures of Cliff Booth, according to Wikipedia, is set eight years after movie. After.
00:36:35
Speaker
Okay. okay Okay. yeah Cool. Thank you. But yeah, anyway, that the movie critic one is interesting. He decided against making that as 10th film as well because he decided that he didn't want to make anything...
00:36:48
Speaker
about him He thought that to a movie about a movie critic, I can't remember. He had so many reasoning. He said he didn't want to do The Adventures of Cliff Booth because he thought a sequel was not good for his last movie.
00:36:59
Speaker
And then he didn't want to do the movie critic film because although he wanted to prove that making a movie about a movie critic, although a boring subject matter, could be interesting, he felt like it wasn't potentially interesting enough to make a movie his last for his last film.
00:37:12
Speaker
was like, dude. And then he didn't do the Star Trek movie. Although that would have been really cool. According to Simon Pegg, who recently was in an interview somewhere and said the science, the, the Quentin Tarantino Star Trek movie was really, really wacky, but really, really great.
00:37:25
Speaker
Like it seemed really cool. And he was going to be in it with the cast original cast of, well, not the original cast, but the movie cast of like the, you know, the, uh, Pine, Chris Pine, Simon Pegg, starring JJ Abrams cast.
00:37:40
Speaker
Yeah. They were going to be in it anyway. Okay. So, yeah. So I just wanted to correct the record because I thought that was interesting. And this is this ever guy is this guy ever going to make a ah tense film? That's the question.
00:37:52
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know either. Yeah. I just wouldn't do what he's doing. I just think it's silly. I agree completely. It's poetic, but the poetic nature of it's cool. Yeah, like, it I don't know. Like, didn't you announce this like 20 years ago that yeah I'm only going to make 10 movies and retire? it's like, brother, like, you I'm sure you've changed as a human being. just Just be like, I was young and dumb back then. I'm going to keep on making movies. like He believes it. that He believes in it. He's very, young he's got conviction, which I respect. I respect the conviction, but I just, I don't really understand this.
00:38:22
Speaker
For me, it's, He doesn't seem to regret this decision at all, like in any interview he's had, which is fair. So do what you need to do. But for me, I'm looking at this like you love filmmaking, though.
00:38:33
Speaker
You love film. So unless you have like some plan for something else you're going to do, Like it almost is, it reminds me of Daniel Day-Lewis in a way. We're going to talk about him in a second. Like Daniel Day-Lewis retired twice, didn't he? Like you, didn't he become a cobbler or something ah one point?
00:38:49
Speaker
And then he, and then he's back Like a peach cobbler? Yeah. No, no Like a, like a shoemaker. A cobbler is a shoemaker, right? Am I crazy? I don't know. You're probably right. I don't, i what is a cobbler I'm familiar of peach cobblers.
00:39:04
Speaker
What is a cobbler? It says dessert. That's hilarious. Maybe I don't know. Maybe it's not actually. Is that not actually a thing? Have I thought that my whole life? I don't know, dude.
00:39:17
Speaker
Sometimes misidentified as cobblers. They're not cobblers. So he was going to be a shoemaker then, not a cobbler. Shoemaker. So what the hell is a cobbler? it's a It's a type of dessert, dude. I know part. cobbler a shoe repairer, a craftsman who repairs and restores. This is from ah term cobbler was originally used pejoratively to indicate that someone did not know their craft.
00:39:39
Speaker
Oh, shit. Okay, so he was going to become a shoemaker, I think. Not a repair guy. Okay. No problem. No problem. All right. No problems here. All right. The third story I picked up, I find really interesting and I hope happens because they need to be everyone needs to be put in their place a little bit.
YouTube & Oscars Speculations
00:39:55
Speaker
As much as YouTube is Google and Google is kind of, I don't know. Google is not perfect either. But regardless of that, YouTube is looking to buy the rights to the Oscars as of 2029 when Disney's deal as rights holder concludes.
00:40:07
Speaker
who This is super interesting for a number of reasons. For a number of reasons. But I was going to throw it to you. Do you have any thoughts on this? Because, yeah, like I know that Disney, I guess, has the distribution rights for the Oscars. But here in Canada, it doesn't air on Disney, right? Isn't it like still owned by the cable networks? and Correct. me don I think Bell owns the distribution rights in Canada.
00:40:30
Speaker
Yeah, it's her Frustrado avocado, dude. Right, so maybe it won't affect us. oh like Yeah.
00:40:39
Speaker
That's my word, right? No, because maybe the rights expire for Canadian, the Canadian rights expire at the same time. And they would be maybe YouTube because of YouTube's like holding Canada as well. Maybe they'll actually keep the rights for themselves. That would be freaking awesome.
00:40:53
Speaker
That would be nice. I hope they expire at the same time. I don't know when the rights ends and I'm feeling, I feel like that Google search will take a while. So I'm not, I'm not going to dive into that rabbit hole, but here's a couple of things I think is interesting. One, we have so much pro so many problems watching this in Canada.
00:41:08
Speaker
Huge issue. Every year we try to watch it. You can't watch it because they don't sell it separately because Bell Media owns the rights here in Canada. Very annoying. In the end, I end up pirating it because there's no other option. There really really isn't another option. I'm not going to get cable for five minutes. I'm just not doing that. So if they had given me an option, like for instance, Bell Media owns Crave, a streaming service here in Canada, the best option for it would be for the Oscars to be on Crave.
00:41:33
Speaker
That would be great, but they don't do that. Very annoying. Don't want to go into a rant too far on that. But there's something else interesting I found about this. We talk every year and everyone talks every year. And this is, the guy again, that the weird Hollywood accounting that I find in the media and and elsewhere and by the various studios. okay There's this idea that the Oscars is dying. Oh, the Oscars. The ratings are bad. Oh, the Oscars. you We know about this. where We talk about this every year. Mm-hmm.
00:42:01
Speaker
Yeah, we do. Everyone's complaining about it. They're like, oh, we're all up in arms. Like, oh, what are we going to do? it's it's It's ending. It's all ending. And yet YouTube, for some reason, Google's like sniffing around saying, actually, this is does quite well. I think we should think we should maybe invest. In 2029, they're looking four years into the future. So that clearly there is something here that people aren't seeing on the outside.
00:42:31
Speaker
And I think that – I feel like this is the best example of that. Like there's – the insiders understand that this is actually valuable in a cash cow because Google would not be sniffing around if that's the case.
00:42:43
Speaker
So I'm kind of tired of hearing every year like, oh. Oh, the ratings are down. Oh, this host was bad because of this. Shut up. It's annoying. It's annoying every year because I enjoy the Oscars, quite frankly. And it's crazy that like these sponsors like Rolex sponsor it every single year.
00:43:00
Speaker
And it seems to just get get the same media, like the same advertiser attention every year. So it clearly does better than people think. And I just want to say that. That's all.
00:43:11
Speaker
but yeah Yeah, I think that's a fair, fair assumption. I think two things can be true. Like, i I think it can be going down. But it's like, what does that ultimately mean? It doesn't mean that it's not still huge, right?
00:43:24
Speaker
Like, I think, you know, I but yeah, like the rating, I think I think there is this like, sentiment that yeah, the the ratings have gone down, not as many people watching. But they have. The Nielsen ratings have gone down for traditional linear cable. yeah That's true, but there are people watching it in other avenues, and I think that the numbers aren't really matching up.
00:43:43
Speaker
Like the Reddit illegal links. ah Yeah, right. Well, imagine that's the thing about it. If it is on YouTube, imagine how pure the numbers will become.
00:43:54
Speaker
I think that's really ah like a ah good thing to think about because how convoluted it is, even in the United States to get access to it is stupid. YouTube is a free, typically free. there's They have very little, if any, premium content content.
00:44:10
Speaker
Like, I don't think they have any premium content anymore. Right now. um it's It's like YouTube premium is ultimately just ad free YouTube at this point. And then they give you YouTube music included with it.
00:44:22
Speaker
I wish they just had like a cheaper option where I could just get YouTube premium. I don't use YouTube music. Not going to use it anymore. But yeah, it is. It is a little bit annoying that they do that. But I mean, imagine if they get the rights and like you need YouTube premium to watch this.
00:44:37
Speaker
that That would be kind of bad. Yeah, that would be. Yeah, it'd be kind of like a baller move at the same time. But ah yeah, I just don't imagine it's going to bring that many people in.
00:44:48
Speaker
I'd be fine. I'm never getting rid of YouTube premium. yeah I think it's one of the most valuable services I pay for by far. The amount of YouTube i watch, you know, a it's a bit expensive, and but it's it ain't 23 bucks Canadian.
00:45:00
Speaker
ah Oh, that's a lot. Yeah, dude. $23. I thought it was $19. it's $22.99. Which I thought it was a lot already. Yeah. Why is it? That's the thing. Like, it's so much. Like, they're making bank on that. it's Yeah, it's cool. I appreciate you paying for it, including me and your family. You can always take me off any time. I'll put that out there in in the ether because if you need to add someone else or something, that's not a problem. I feel bad. as I kind of bum it off. you off Oh, dude, it's fine. You don't have Disney anymore from me. I can't even pay for Disney for you.
00:45:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's okay. Don't worry about it. I have i have my $3 Disney with ads right now, so it's all good. I'm going to i meannna close that off though soon. I do want to watch Alien Earth as well, but I was like, do I really want to watch this fucking show with six ads sprinkled throughout it?
00:45:46
Speaker
um So I haven't done I can't see Disney+. I'm waiting for Alien Earth to finish. Okay, I might do the same. um But yeah, i don't know, man. Like it is it is a little bit on the pricier side for sure. But again, it's like, it's split between myself, my fiance, my pal Peter, you and I think my sister.
00:46:05
Speaker
So it's like, it's okay. Not like financially, like it's not split financially, but I mean like everyone has access to it and I'm okay paying for that is my point. Right. So. I mean, now I probably should offer to pay you. or no, no, no, dude. No, please, please, please. No, please. No, don't.
00:46:20
Speaker
But yeah, i don't know. For me, it's that, that service is valuable. Like I would be paying for it regardless. So whatever. If I can give it to you for free. Cool, man. Please enjoy it. You know, please enjoy it. But I mean, on the topic of, of streaming services, I just scrolled down because I don't think you mentioned it.
00:46:36
Speaker
as a story, unless I'm missing it, but like Apple TV plus, they just increased their prices by two bucks yeah as well, which is like, yeah, It's 15 bucks Canadian. And don't get me wrong.
00:46:48
Speaker
Apple TV's quality is, is phenomenal. They're hemorrhaging money in their, you know, TV space. So I'm like, you know what, for me, I'm okay with it. But when you really think about it it's like, okay, Netflix is what 22 bucks or or whatever it is.
00:47:02
Speaker
And the amount and variety of content on Netflix compared to Apple TV is almost $10 more. Yeah. Yeah. yeah but like Is that worth $10 more? Apple Plus's quality across the board is better, in my opinion. I think there's very little shows that match Severance.
00:47:23
Speaker
like from ah yeah From a standpoint of quality, it's crazy. Just like take the the actual production value of it, of the whole thing, of all their shows. For All Mankind is insane.
00:47:34
Speaker
Dark Matter is kind of insane. Silo is kind of insane. There's there's very few shows that they have. Yeah. Oh, crazy. Yeah. So good. what What's just name and I guess name a Netflix show that's kind of getting close. Like think about Squid Game season three. What was going on with the CG? Like, what are we doing? You don't have the money you're getting.
00:47:55
Speaker
How much money are you people giving you? you're You're like bleeding people dry. I don't know. For me, Apple TV Plus is my favorite streaming service, so it doesn't necessarily matter to me. But I also I pay for the Apple One subscription.
00:48:07
Speaker
Yeah, so you get it included. and that price didn't go up, thankfully. But that that is a helpful thing, too, to have that Apple One. But anyway, yeah. Anyway, I do agree, though, it is a little bit expensive.
00:48:20
Speaker
I don't disagree with you just because there's not as much content. But I do applaud them for making... Every show they make is just like a bar that is almost unmatched. like HBO Max is the only one, or just HBO in general. HBO shows are kind of the closest.
00:48:38
Speaker
HBO and Apple TV Plus are the closest, I feel like, in terms of the quality metric. ah The rest of the streaming services are kind of hit and miss. Even Disney Plus is weird. like They've got a lot of strange...
00:48:51
Speaker
Like, I don't know. They got a mix. They got Secret Labs and Mormon Wives, baby. They got Secret Labs and Mormon Wives. Right. Yeah. they're right They're doing the same thing yeah Netflix is doing with the reality TV as well. Yeah. But, yeah.
00:49:02
Speaker
For sure. It is interesting. And one key thing to note as well with Apple TV, like it is like – They do release their episodes weekly. So it's like if you do want to watch a show to start to finish, you're you're paying for two months. Like if I want to watch platonic week to week, as an example, I'm paying 30 bucks to finish that show or ah the show that's coming out in October. Vince Gilligan's Pluribus.
00:49:29
Speaker
Yeah, i'm branzson that's right. You know, like that's going to be week to week. Am I willing to pay $30 for that show? 100%. I don't give a shit. I'm fucking giving Apple all my money. I'm going to watch that week to week. I'm i'm very excited for it.
00:49:42
Speaker
But again, at the same time, you have to take that into consideration. With Netflix, it's like, well, let me take a step back because Netflix does split up their seasons now. Although they drop them all, like Wednesday as an example, I think they released their the first half last month or this month. And then they're releasing the second half of season two in September. So that is, that is a key thing to know.
00:50:03
Speaker
Did I lose you? Are you there? Hello?
00:50:11
Speaker
Okay. He's back, baby. We've done it. We are back. We are back from a Rogers outage over in Guelph, Ontario. Adrian. don't think we are. I don't think we are back.
00:50:22
Speaker
Because he just cut out again. He was mid-sentence cut out again. oh my god. my things about
00:50:33
Speaker
You're saying about streaming services. I don't know. You cut out there again for like another 20 seconds. Roger's in it, baby. High quality stuff. I was watching a video from this guy named Balkan Dad on on Instagram while i was waiting. Oh.
00:50:47
Speaker
Oh, and he's gone again. Oh my god. You're gone again. I don't know. don't know what's going on. so Why are you so okay with this? What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do here? Yeah. matt I always think about this like with Rogers. The last month, every single day, the internet has gone out.
00:51:09
Speaker
Every single day once. But imagine you were youre were working at from home. Imagine how annoying that would be. Yeah, I know. But it's like, that's so ridiculous. Like, that's unacceptable. And it's like, what am I going to call them and say, like, fix it? Like, what are you going to fix? Your infrastructure shit. So what I don't know what you're going to do. I don't know. i might switch the bell because it's just, it's getting a little bit bad because it wasn't this bad. Like, two months ago, it was fine. I don't know what happened. Something just went wrong and they, I don't know they're going to ever acknowledge it.
00:51:36
Speaker
Tariffs. So anyway. Yeah. Rogers a very Canadian company. Yeah. um They had like a weird, did we, did we talk about how they had like literally like a a succession like situation with like the Rogers is somehow run by like a family business.
00:51:52
Speaker
It's like, no it's still, I think it's the descendants of like Ted Rogers, like from back in the day. And they, they had like a battle that the siblings had a battle to take over the company. Hmm.
00:52:04
Speaker
It was like a crazy, like weird thing. I think what's going on here? think the son got the CEO position and then they were ah pissed. So they kicked him out and then he got it again, I think.
00:52:16
Speaker
was like, wow. They had like a battle. like ah Anyway, it's crazy, crazy stuff. He got the board on their side. Oh, wait. It's not him.
00:52:27
Speaker
It's a different guy. Oh, it's a guy named Tony Staffieri. So it's not that guy anymore. So that was, that was a few years ago anyway. But yeah. Spitting lies here. Spitting lies. Hold on, hold on. Misinformation.
00:52:40
Speaker
Hold on. I'm correct about this. I didn't, I didn't dream of this. Tony Staffieri, dude. You don't know Tony? I watched Succession season, season four. And then I, wait, battle.
00:52:53
Speaker
for come on now battle of the bastards man battle for bikini bottom control Yeah, Edward Rogers wins major court battle for control of family business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was real.
00:53:07
Speaker
This was real. he's the Oh, he was that for the chairman position, not the CEO position, I think. The CEO of Rogers' battle for control refers to the 2021 power struggle at the Rogers communication where Edward Rogers sought to replace CEO Joe Natale with Doni Stafieri. Yeah, there was a battle, but it's like for their chairman, the chairman of the board situation.
00:53:29
Speaker
They're battling to get the person they want appointed to CEO. Anyway, whatever, whatever, man. That has nothing to do with my internet going out constantly. It's some weird infrastructure issue. So Adrian, now let's move on. I don't know what we were exactly talking about. We said Apple TV plus is quality. HBO max is quality.
00:53:45
Speaker
The other streaming services and it miss sometimes. Let's move on to the trailers of the week. Unless you've got more to say about the streaming services. No, I feel like i was saying a point. Don't remember. It doesn't matter. Sorry. We moved on. sorry to, I'm sorry I did that to you.
00:53:58
Speaker
But anyway, the trailers for this week, pretty cool. I'm going to call it some that I, I saw. And if you have any that you want to mention, feel free to do so. But I, I noticed the, the old ballot of a small player from a director of, uh,
00:54:12
Speaker
conclave edward burger but starring uh mr colin farrell that looks pretty cool followed season two which was a gamescom sakuro no defeat which was also a gamescom black rabbit you sent me the trailer which i've been excited for obviously because i've i i was just excited for whatever jason bateman is going to direct next in the tv world so that's pretty cool that looks pretty great looks like another crime show in the vein of ozark in some way and then we got to anemone With ah Ronan Day-Lewis, Daniel Day-Lewis' son, directing it. And Daniel Day-Lewis, after retiring, that's what we were referencing before, is coming back from retirement to star in this movie. It also stars Sean Bean.
00:54:53
Speaker
from The Beanster, as I like to call him. Bean Sean. and And anything else that you potentially want to mention as well? There was one other thing, actually, I feel like I've forgotten, and I forgot to write it down clearly because...
00:55:06
Speaker
It's not in this list, but is there anything else you want to call out? Or do you want to talk about any of those things? Because we should just probably talk about them instead of just mentioning them in passing. yeah, yeah. Let's talk about those. um So I didn't watch The Ballad of a Small Player, nor did I watch a nominee.
00:55:20
Speaker
um Honestly, I don't think I've seen a single movie with Daniel Day-Lewis, now that i like really think about it. and Maybe I have, maybe haven't. I don't know. and don't know. Let me look this up, because I don't think have. Have seen Last of the Mohicans?
00:55:32
Speaker
No. Have you seen, i think it's my left foot. I think it's called. No. Have you seen, that one definitely like you would have seen gangs of New York.
00:55:43
Speaker
I haven't seen that in full, but when we worked together at Best Buy back in the day, people would always put it on, on that, um, the free Sony streaming service. Remember what I was, what was that called? Oh,
00:55:55
Speaker
I want to say like crumble. Oh, oh, crackle. Crackle, crackle. Crumble. Yeah. And it would be on randomly. It was either that movie or fucking Shark Tank, dude. like but like That was always playing in the lunchroom at the Best Buy worked at back in the day. um That's, oh, in the lunchroom. Yeah, I wasn't on the floor.
00:56:16
Speaker
Because I was like, that's a pretty rated R movie. Yeah, it was in the lunchroom. It was in the lunchroom. So, yeah, I don't think I've like seen any of his movies in full. um So, you know, this is a great use of of um nepotism that Ronan Day-Lewis has done here.
00:56:34
Speaker
Great use. making his dad go out of retirement for a movie that he's making. I'm not even mad. Good for him. His dad's helping. He's writing it. And don't know.
00:56:45
Speaker
Is that nepotism? I don't know if that's nepotism though. That's like, that's a weird one. Reverse nepotism. It's like a strange one though because he's writing it with his dad and they're making a project together. It's like – I guess it is nepotism. It is. It just naturally is. You can't really – But I feel like the way you saw it described it is like it's a nice version of nepotism. But it's kind of – this like incidental nepotism though because it's oh, sorry, son. You want to make freaking movies? No, nepotism. What are you going to do there? You know I mean? It's not like you – Daniel Day-Lewis went to like the studio exists and said, hey, I'm Daniel Day-Lewis, the Oscar winner.
00:57:20
Speaker
for every movie I'm in. I'm i' nominated in virtually every movie I've ever been in. You better hire my son as the director. No, they're making an indie film. You know what i mean? Like in that regard, it's not as bad. It's like, it's, it's incidental nepotism is what I would call call it. Okay.
00:57:36
Speaker
You know what? I'll allow that. I'll allow that, Simon. um But yeah, yeah, no. um The Fallout Season 2, I don't even know if it was it a full trailer. I guess it kind of was.
00:57:47
Speaker
They showed it at Gamescom, right? If I recall correctly. Looks pretty good. um I liked the first season. I don't think I was as high on it as like a lot of people online. I thought it was great. But, you know, yeah.
00:57:59
Speaker
don't think it was like a masterpiece by any, any stretch. I think Walton Goggins, anything that guy's in, you know, he, I think he elevates a product. I really like Ella Purnell in that show as well. I think Ella Purnell is, is awesome. And again, she voiced Jinx in the arcane TV series, which I absolutely adored. So it's cool. Yeah. um I'm definitely intrigued. Like I'm not going to not watch it, but I'm not like foaming out the mouth for fallout season two. You know what Sure. Um,
00:58:28
Speaker
Okay. Sekiro, no defeat. I actually just recently beat Sekiro like the the video game earlier this year. Right. And the anime, I really love the animation style. um I think it looks Yeah, does look cool.
00:58:39
Speaker
It looks really cool. It's kind of, it almost looks like almost like 90s anime in a weird way. Just like the way it's hand drawn. Looks beautiful. And it seems to be following the story of the game almost to a T, which is interesting.
00:58:53
Speaker
um I think the story of Sekiro is pretty good. i think it's the weakest part about the game. um Like I wasn't necessarily being like, oh man, I got to figure out the story of this. um' really care that much about it, but yeah you know, I was playing it for the gameplay, but I mean, maybe I'll check this out again. The animation style alone makes it look cool.
00:59:11
Speaker
I know you're not much of an anime guy, but does this interest you at all? Not this one. Cause I don't have interest in Sakura. That's fair. That's fair. And then yeah, the black rabbit trailer. Stellar.
00:59:22
Speaker
Looks so good. I had no idea what the show was going to really be about other than that it's supposed to be a crime drama. But and we talked about it. yeah Yeah. Like we talked about it. talked about how it's about a restaurant. Like these guys are, they own like a nightclub restaurant thing. And then they, like Jude Law is kind of running it and his brother shows up and he's got, he's got troubles with various entities and they have to kind of sort it out.
00:59:45
Speaker
Yeah. But this really, uh, sheds some more light on it. I feel like this trailer. And, I don't know if... what Did we always know that this is supposed to be a limited series? Because seems like... I think so.
00:59:57
Speaker
Okay, okay. Because, yeah, this seems like it's going to be like a one and done, which is a little bit too bad. I would have liked to... you know I want Jason Bateman to you know stretch his legs and make multiple seasons if he can. But, hey, man, if this is the story he wants to tell over the course of one season, all the power to him. This is out soon as well. It's like mid-next month, right? mid It's cool. That's something Netflix
Streaming Strategies & Content Critiques
01:00:17
Speaker
does pretty well. They're they're almost shatter-dropping stuff. You know what I mean? yeah They announce it, and then it it's coming out pretty quick. Yeah, apart from they're like really big things, like, I mean, like a Stranger Things or I guess Squid Game as well. They they kind of announced it quite early.
01:00:30
Speaker
um But yeah, this looks really good. And then not on the list here, Simon, but... Before you get there, though, let's stop at Black Rabbit for a sec. The thing about Black Rabbit that's interesting to me that I just thought was like a little funny little quip. Somebody posted on...
01:00:46
Speaker
like a comment on YouTube, I think they were like, oh, yeah, you're mentioning Emmy Award winner, ah you know, Jason Bateman and ah like nominee for the Oscars, Jude Law. But I feel like you you failed to mention Oscar winner, Troy Kotser.
01:01:05
Speaker
which Which I thought was funny. Although yeah there's a reason why they didn't do that. Like he's probably not in it as much. Like Troy Cotzer was the Academy Award winner for supporting actor for CODA.
01:01:16
Speaker
And he's in the trailer. But I imagine he's obviously not the main character. It's Jude Law injurries and Jason Bateman who are obviously more household names in some way. But mainly it's because they're they're they're also main characters. I just thought it was ah kind of a funny little nod because they they didn't win. Like, oh no, Jason Bateman didn't win though because he won he won for Didn't he win an award for Ozark for directing?
01:01:38
Speaker
He may Am wrong? definitely won an Emmy, but he didn't win an Oscar. No, no. Did I say Oscar? Sorry. Yeah, Emmy. Yeah, okay. You couldn't have won an Oscar for Ozark. That would have been possible. just Just for ah another movie, though, like that he starred in. Maybe he won an Oscar for Identity Thief, Best Actor.
01:01:58
Speaker
Did he Starring Melissa McCartney. He won. Yeah, he won in 2019. He won an Emmy for Ozark. That's cool. Nice. Yeah. Good for him. Well-deserved anyway. Yeah. ah Shout out to Jason Bateman.
01:02:10
Speaker
Yeah. For being great in everything he does. Oh, wow. Yeah. Nice. Oh, wow. Um, ah super high praise, dude. The highest, arguably, that I give to to someone.
01:02:25
Speaker
Um, Yeah. And then there's two other trailers that I want to point out as well, Simon. Yeah. Maybe three. Maybe three. um One is, this looks really cool. Have you heard about the movie called Good Boy? i don't know.
01:02:42
Speaker
So Good Boy is an upcoming and like horror movie. But the entire movie is from the perspective of the dog in the family. Didn't you tell me about this?
01:02:54
Speaker
i'm I must have like a while ago. But this trailer just released like, i don't know, like within the last week. And it's a really good trailer. It's short and brisk. It looks really cool, though. I really like what they're doing here.
01:03:06
Speaker
I think this dog that that that is the main character, his name, I think is like Indy the dog or something. I don't think that's the dog's name in the movie. I think his name is Indy, like in real life. And it looks really good.
01:03:18
Speaker
I'm super intrigued about this. It's rated incredibly well. So I'm all in on that movie. Yeah. As you know, I like horror. Yeah. The other two movies I want to point, i sorry, the other movie that I want to point out is a movie called Cold Storage. i don't know if you saw the trailer for this one. This one's not coming out until
Comedic Marketing & New Projects
01:03:38
Speaker
next year. I'm kind of shocked that they showed it, but it stars...
01:03:41
Speaker
Liam Neeson, Joe Keery, and someone else. can't remember. And it's like kind of like a post-apocalyptic movie. Like, I don't know. It looks wacky and fun. Over-the-top violence.
01:03:53
Speaker
Um... This one looks super intriguing. Again, I'm kind of butchering the explanation. I think it's like Joe Keery and this woman like they they're trying to do a heist or they're they're doing a janitor. of i don't remember. It's been like a week or two since I watched it. But looks really cool. Really fun.
01:04:07
Speaker
Bad job explaining the trailer. Check it out yourself. um And then the final ah trailer I want to mention is the paper. Peacock um TV series that is called The Office.
01:04:19
Speaker
um Wait, looks didn't the paper trailer come out two weeks ago? Maybe. Did we talk about it two weeks ago? we didn't talk about it. Oh, okay. so it's a good call out now because we never even brought it up. And this was a trailer, but yeah, we just completely forgot. I, I wrote it in a different note that I never looked at when we recorded two weeks ago for episode one 16. But yeah, what'd you think of the paper trailer?
01:04:40
Speaker
I thought it looked okay. Like, i don't know. it's It's, it's hard to, I think a lot of the time when you're marketing a comedy, it's, it's relatively difficult to do. Cause like, you just gotta like get some laughs out there quickly, you know, essentially, know,
01:04:55
Speaker
shorten jokes and like just show punch lines. And I think this failureer ah trailer kind of was a failure in that. I didn't, i didn't really giggle much at all. Yeah. I can see that.
01:05:05
Speaker
Yeah. um Which is a little bit unfortunate. I'm not like not excited for this. It is super interesting though, because this originally was supposed to release week to week.
01:05:16
Speaker
And I don't know if you heard it a couple days ago, Peacock announced that they're dropping all 10 episodes at once. Okay. So I don't know if that's like a good or a bad sign. I feel like maybe like the season, maybe it doesn't start off particularly great and then kind of picks up because you're getting to know the characters, personalities and everything like that. I think with a lot of comedy shows, um you know, you you have growing pains because you're trying to figure out how the characters are and the chemistry between everyone. Like you think about the first season of the office or the first season of parks and rec, like they're not, they're by far the worst seasons of the show. Yeah.
01:05:50
Speaker
I office kind of goes downhill randomly um a little bit later. But i the first is pretty rough. I don't know. i do If you're talking about where I think you're talking about for the office, I never thought it went downhill, personally. Yeah, I definitely do.
01:06:03
Speaker
I think it kind of loses a little bit of its magic. But – So maybe they're like, well, we should release it all at once so like people get the full scope and and you get the characters. I think comedies are a little bit better to watch all at once.
01:06:16
Speaker
People like binging comedies, I think. As proven by Netflix's licensing of The Office, I feel like. Yeah, yeah exactly. So I'm curious about this. I'm not like excited for it, but I'll probably watch it depending on where it is here because we don't get Peacock.
01:06:32
Speaker
It's on Paramount product Plus, maybe not, but... What is interesting is that Mike Schur is not a part of this. And he's a big part of, obviously, Parks parks and Recreation and The Office.
01:06:44
Speaker
yeah And I wonder what that's going to mean. Greg Daniels is a part of this, which he was obviously a part of the original The Office as well. Yeah. And so I don't know how it's going go. who's Do you know who Michael Komen is with a K?
01:06:56
Speaker
No. and
01:06:58
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Michael Komen.
01:07:02
Speaker
He's also... Oh. He's a producer on Nathan for you. Interesting. Oh, okay. wonder what this means. Nathan for you is great. Yeah. Okay.
01:07:13
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So we'll see what this means, but he's part of, he's part of the team with Greg Daniels there. h He is also a writer on the show. so we'll see what that means. But like, I don't know. That's the big question.
01:07:25
Speaker
Like, what will it be like without Michael Schur? What is Michael Schur working on now? i have no idea, honestly. Yeah. Michael Schur did the, the, the dance in Ted Danson.
01:07:36
Speaker
Yeah. He did men on the inside. Yeah. Oh yeah. Which I didn't love, honestly, but he's usually kind of working on two things at once now. Cause he was really a good place and craon at the same time.
01:07:47
Speaker
When you, when you Google Michael Schur's name, this is the first image that pops up. Oh, sorry. I'm not looking. It's just a floating head. got the same one. That's crazy. Why? i don't know. It's a floating head.
01:08:01
Speaker
It's funny. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. and But um yeah, don't really like a man on the inside that much. I thought it was fine. um I liked it a lot.
01:08:14
Speaker
Yeah. But I loved, know, the good place, obviously. Not as good as the good place in Brooklyn. I know. I think. Oh, definitely not. Nowhere near. I think I think it's is the worst show that I watched of his.
01:08:24
Speaker
i there was something about it. i just don't think i think tim said he can. Yeah, man, I think I think there's a way to balance comedy and sadness in a way.
01:08:35
Speaker
And I just don't think he expertly handled it in that show specifically. i think it leaned a little bit more towards the sadness. I would almost argue that he did handle it well because dementia is the the scariest disease in my opinion. Like, and I liked the show somehow.
01:08:49
Speaker
So in some way, like I think he succeeded. I just feel like dementia is like a really tough topic to broach. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like good for you that you would even, you'd somehow managed to do it in any way.
01:09:02
Speaker
But ah yeah, that's the part that's really sad. It's, ah it gets really sad, especially near the end of the show. Yeah. It's, it's a, yeah. it's just Yeah, I'm curious to see what the second season will be like.
Character Dynamics & New Films
01:09:13
Speaker
It might be better, actually, because he's going to be the man on the inside somewhere else, maybe. don't know how they're bridge the scenes. Yeah, my worry is, is like, so love Ted Danson's character in that show. No spoilers, by the way, but let's try to be vague on this guy.
01:09:28
Speaker
But, I mean, it's it's potentially possible, like, this is going to be almost like ah like an anthology in a way of, like, him and then a couple of the other main cast kind of moving on to like a different place. Right.
01:09:40
Speaker
and There's potential for that. And I think like the least interesting characters are the characters that might move on with Ted Danson, which I think is kind of a shame. um Oh, so i don't know. i don't know how it's going to be because I think the biggest issue that I had with that show is one of the main characters has literally no character growth and she kind of just sucks.
01:10:03
Speaker
um Okay. And I don't know. I like by the end of it, i was like, I don't like you. Like, I just don't like you as a character. And you're not funny. It's like, at the very least, you know, sometimes you like, it's always sunny in Philadelphia. They're awful people. Like, I would not like these people in real life, but at least they're funny.
01:10:18
Speaker
In the man on the inside, the the one main character, like the girl that essentially hires Ted Danson, like she sucks. Right. She has no redeeming qualities. She's kind of an asshole all throughout it. And like when she does like arguably the one good thing in the show. No redeeming qualities. Yeah, redeeming qualities. She's just working. I'm being hyperbolic. She's just doing her job.
01:10:37
Speaker
She's not funny. She's just not funny though. I don't agree that she's got no redeeming. But she's mean. And the the the only nice thing she does is because she's essentially forced to.
01:10:49
Speaker
Ted Dans is doing a bad job the whole time. He's doing a horrible job. He's employed. Yeah, but he's nice and he cares and he's funny. So that's what I mean. I don't know about that. She doesn't know him that well and he's not really doing a great job. I feel like so my point is I don't like the character.
01:11:06
Speaker
It's like that is my point. It's like people reacting to Skylar badly. Like Skylar would not in Breaking Bad. Like Skylar wouldn't have acted the way she did. Of course she should. It's like I people hate Skylar. They hate her. And I'm like, yeah, I know.
01:11:19
Speaker
I think she's a very normal person. That's how someone would react probably when, i mean, maybe not, but because it's like such a ridiculous thing. Your husband becomes like like a drug kingpin. What do you do? I guess. But I don't know. I feel like people overreact with Skylar as an example.
01:11:35
Speaker
Yeah. So you're telling me I only hate her because this character is also a woman like Skylar. Is that what you're saying? What? No, no, I get what you're saying. She isn't that interesting though.
01:11:46
Speaker
i agree I agree with you. I just think that no redeeming qualities. I'm like, I don't know about that, but I agree. She's not that interesting. Yeah. You're her being carried over. You're right. The people in the retirement home home are funnier and they, they got more comedic chops in some way.
01:12:00
Speaker
She's supposed to be like the straight man, the straight woman in this case. Like she's playing it straight, whereas Ted Danson is ridiculous. And that's the whole cold dynamic. But that you're right. That may be the worst dynamic in the show.
01:12:11
Speaker
Yeah. like yeah that' the color I agree with you. I just think some of the language he uses is very hyperbolic. Yeah, obviously. But still, you get what I mean. And I mean, there is another straight woman in the show.
01:12:21
Speaker
Well, actually a couple like his his daughter and then Stephanie Beatrice. She's got a husband. Yeah, ah exactly, dude. Yeah, they ain't scissoring. um But yeah, but yeah, like those characters are interesting enough, like an add something to the show.
01:12:38
Speaker
and So anyways, that's kind of my point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah, I guess we'll see. Hopefully it's good. I hope the paper is good because it's just I don't know.
01:12:49
Speaker
It would be very disappointing for a lot of people because like that last show Craig Daniels did was not regarded as that great if it's funny because if i feel like it hit its stride right at the end the space show what's it called space force yeah space force i never even watched it yeah it's got steve carell in it too which is like i feel like a magic formula and it wasn't really critics didn't love it like and i don't think audiences loved it either because it got canceled so that's on netflix i think the dynamic between steve carell specifically and um what's his name
01:13:21
Speaker
Oh my God. He got cut from fantastic four first steps. John Malkovich. He, uh, that dynamic was really good. I just felt like some of the writing was kind of weak.
01:13:32
Speaker
Like I didn't, I didn't love it, but I feel like it started to hit its stride near the end of the second of the second season. If recall correctly. Anyway, I don't watch it. So I don't know. I don't really recommend it. It's not terrible, but I'm not going to watch it.
01:13:45
Speaker
Okay. I'm never going to watch it. I'm never going to put that on my television. It also hurts because it got canceled. so it's hard for me to recommend things that are are canceled except for awake. Anyway. Yeah. Fair enough. wake Wake is definitely worth watching. That is.
01:13:58
Speaker
I got one more thing. It's not a trailer. Did you see any of the set photos for is this thing on? I am very excited about this movie. It's Will Arnett starring as a comedian who wasn't a comedian before, but he he he goes into a comedy club after ah a potential divorce.
01:14:13
Speaker
And this, apparently this is the story because it's based on ah on a true, like an actual guy in the UK. But Will Arnett's being directed by Bradley Cooper. So this is Bradley Cooper's next movie. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I do know this. I do know this.
01:14:25
Speaker
It looks really cool. And the premise is really cool. Because apparently, like, Will Arnett's character is going to go into a comedy club and not – he just wants to go into the comedy club because he's just depressed or something. He just wants a drink. and they won't let him enter without a fee and so they're gonna charge him money and he's like and they're like but if you go on stage for open mic night you don't have you don't get charged and then he becomes an actual comedian that's the story which is like what like what that's so cool and uh and will arnett is not really the main star in anything that's that prominent so that's pretty impressive like a movie yeah i yeah yeah where you're coming from sorry you know what i mean he's not in like like he's in bojack horseman and he's in flaked but they're just like small things this is potentially a big project and i would argue yeah that will arnett's at his best when he's playing a depressed guy that just wants a drink
01:15:18
Speaker
I know. That's what's so crazy. Like, fli and Bojack Horseman. So it's really exciting in that regard. And I think Bradley Cooper is a really, I love a star is born. I think his iteration of a star is born is excellent.
01:15:32
Speaker
It's very heart wrenching and it's very good. I got to see Maestro though. I never ended up watching it last year. and I, yeah. you just think He directed that. Yeah. He directed himself in it.
01:15:43
Speaker
I had no idea. i would If I was a director, got to say, i would not be the protagonist in a movie, though. It's so much pressure.
01:15:55
Speaker
like i feel like Lady Gaga was the protagonist in A Star is Born. I think it's just too much pressure for Maestro, I think. It was well regarded. It got like a lot of Oscar nominations, but it didn't didn't win very much like across the awards season.
01:16:10
Speaker
in comparison to most of what was nominated last year. So yeah. Yeah. Interesting. I remember this movie coming I didn't watch it though. It's about Leonard Bernstein.
01:16:21
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Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Produced. So yeah, directed by Bradley Cooper, written by Bradley Cooper and Josh Singer, produced by Martin Scorsese, Bradley Cooper, Steven Spielberg.
01:16:34
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A lot of big names attached to this flick. Interesting. It's cool. but yeah Yeah. Interesting. Cool. I should see that. But yeah, anyway, yeah this this is more up my alley, I feel like. This is the premise automatically. It's about... What's the guy's name now?
01:16:47
Speaker
Is this thing on? What is it about? iss about the i i looked at a clip. um The dude was on the Graham note or Norton show and he told the story about how this is his life, this UK comedian. This is actually something that happened to him.
01:17:00
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on Based on... It's based on the British comedian John Bishop.
01:17:07
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This guy was really funny on the Graham Norton show. I thought it was really funny. The way he told the story i was was cool. It's definitely like we worth looking at. But it's it's a cool thing. that They're obviously translating it for the American audience because I think it's he's walnett's a comedian in New York instead of obviously in Britain. But anyway, it's cool.
01:17:28
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I'm excited. I'm excited for that one. That's coming soon. I think it's October. Like the release date? It's strange. There's no trailer for that. And that's in October. And isn't the Smashing Machine in October? if We've seen the trailer for the Smashing Machine with Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Like 800 times, dude. Like 800 times.
01:17:44
Speaker
It's crazy. I'm not opposed to seeing the Smashing Machine. I'm kind of interested in it. But I feel like it's like, why are they showing the trailer so many times? Yeah. For every movie, dude, the crazy thing is the movies were going into C. Like it was in the in the beginning of Weapons, which I guess makes sense, kind of, but it's not a horror movie.
01:18:03
Speaker
feel like it was before Fantastic Four. It was before Superman. think so, yeah. was before Jurassic World. Dude, it's before every fucking movie we've gone to the theater. It's not blockbuster. Yeah. I've seen this movie, like the the trailer, so many times.
01:18:16
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I'm not against watching it. I want to watch it because I'm genuinely curious if The Rock's are good a good actor.
01:18:23
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I think he's a good actor, but it's like, i feel it i like it's a good you're a good actor to be able to act naturally in a scene, even though you're playing yourself.
01:18:37
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And like there's degrees of how much people play themselves in things. But I think he does look natural in the scenes he's in. like He's not a bad actor in the movies he's in. He's just the rock.
01:18:48
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that's yeah That's the tricky part. But it you can see bad acting a lot. and like you know you could you we When you watch movies, like I think you pointed out – that's a bad thing to say because I feel like that's mean.
01:19:00
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And she was so good in weapons. But you you mentioned Wolfman, the acting wasn't good. I think that's the directing for the actor in the scenes there in that specific spot. But I think for you, I didn't necessarily call that out anyway.
01:19:12
Speaker
But like there is, you know, but or like a good example is the room. You know what I mean? Like you watch the room and you're like, all right. But there's also the director wasn't necessarily holding anyone's hand or trying to make it make them shine in those scenes either.
01:19:27
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so it's also a direction for the room, too. But you can see the bad acting or or Hayden Christensen in some of the scenes in Star Wars. I feel like yeah he's not that bad of an actor, but he wasn't he didn't do the greatest job acting in some of those scenes. And in like ah he improved markedly.
01:19:44
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in revenge of the sith like you can see it literally if you watch attack of the clones and then watch ridge of the sith back to back you can see how much he improved it's it's clear so So I don't think Rock is like that. If The Rock played Anakin Skywalker, all I'm saying is he would seem like a natural actor potentially
DCU Casting & Influences
01:20:02
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in those scenes. Well, actually, I don't know. Maybe because he's directed The Rock played Anakin Skywalker. It's a crazy fucking visual.
01:20:11
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Dude, that's crazy.
01:20:15
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Oh my God.
01:20:24
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That's fucking nuts, dude. i can't even imagine. Okay. Anyway, I don't know how we would have done because it would have been about about the director as well. but Awesome. Yeah, The Rock's as bad as Black Adam. It's just he kind of – I guess The Rock caused the Henry Cavill thing though, right?
01:20:43
Speaker
Like pushing Henry Cavill show up in that movie? Yeah. Yeah. He did. No, I think he made it so the announcements claimed that Henry Cavill was coming back as Superman in the DCU because that's what announced it at that point. I never really connected those two things. but James Gunn talked a lot about it um on – was it the Happy Side Confused podcast? Yeah.
01:21:04
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or whatever that they like, because Black Adam came out. You saw that. That's what I'm referencing. Yeah. Okay, cool. Because yeah, he was talking about how Black Adam came out in the period that essentially James Gunn and Peter Safran were taking over DC. Right. And they specifically knew that- The plan.
01:21:21
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Yeah, the plan. And The Rock was pushing so heavily, he's we have to bring Henry Cavill into this. And we're going to do this universe properly. And he was essentially like trying to strong arm his way into a Into the larger DCEU universe. Change the hierarchy of the DCEU.
01:21:41
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Extended universe, Adrian. And it's really interesting to hear kind of James Gunn talk about him. Because like apparently like it sounds like. I didn't hear him did specifically mention The Rock. He doesn't say The Rock by name. just says.
01:21:54
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And there were specific people that were ah pushing themselves into a universe. and That were essentially fighting us on Earth. what we wanted to do.
01:22:05
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So it's almost sound like the rock was like, no, we're doing the DC. You were going to continue this. Henry Cavill is going to be there. He was trying to push James gun and Peter Safran out before they even got in. So, yeah, like it was interesting. Again, he didn't say it by name, but it's that it sounds like that is what he was referring to. Yeah. So,
01:22:24
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um And then literally that movie came out, Henry Cavill was there and they already knew that they had to fire Henry Cavill. Well, you know, tell them that that fire is moving forward. Just say, we're not hiring you for more jobs in this particular role.
01:22:36
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um So it was like a very awkward conversation, but then he talked about how like how classic that Henry Cavill was about any, all all Henry Cavill asked was like, can I please just be the one to deliver the news?
01:22:48
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um And they obviously obliged. So yeah, it sounds very interesting. So yeah That was actually, I had a segue. I had someone written in this jumbled notes I have. Henry Cavill.
01:23:00
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You know what what role he should get? This is a a crazy little cut here. It's like a crazy take. All right. Henry Cavill, Bruce Wayne, Batman.
01:23:12
Speaker
Oh, dude, that'd be cool. That'd be cool. I would like that. That wouldn't be bad idea, though. No, no. It's kind of interesting. feel like he could do Bruce Wayne so well. He's like yeah he's got this suave.
01:23:26
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He's got the nice smirk. you know like there is and I mean, dudes love him. like He's like yeah probably like one of the biggest man crushes out there for men. um like Would they not do it because they're worried about the confusion?
01:23:39
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I don't think they care. don't think they care. And I think Peacemaker is actually ah a prime example of, i don't think they care. That's crazy, man. Yeah. oh Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah.
01:23:52
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So yeah, that is interesting. But that yeah, that'd be cool. Wouldn't that be interesting though? They like flip it on its head and they have Henry Cavill as the, as their DCU's Batman. Obviously there's talk of like, I think he was, who was asked in an interview about Robert Pattinson. Oh, it was Matt Reeves.
01:24:08
Speaker
Would you, I think, again, it was Josh Horwitz. It's always Josh Horwitz. He breaks every story, it seems. He just seems like a really likable, nice guy. Every interview I see with this guy, he's just like, they all seem to like talking to him because he's just a nice guy who's really into the industry and he's really into what they're making.
01:24:24
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He's just a big movie and TV fan. So that's kind of where where it goes from there, I think. But he he asked Matt Reeves, like, is there a chance that Robert Pattinson will play Batman and in the greater DCU? And and Matt Reeves didn't rule it out, which I thought was interesting. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah.
01:24:41
Speaker
Well, I brought that up like a couple weeks back or a few episodes ago where I'm like, do you think there's a possibility? Yeah, and then you literally were like, no, you fucking big dumb idiot. That's not going to happen. No, I think it won't happen. I legitimately don't think it will happen. But yeah, that's right. You brought it up and I and i felt like they had already kind of nixed it, but they didn't. I was just wrong because clearly Matt Reeves is kind of leaving the door open.
01:25:03
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But it doesn't make sense to me. Does it make sense to you? The grounded universe. Imagine that. that gotham like That Gotham is related to this Peacemaker. What are we doing? That doesn't really... you know what I mean? like The grounded nature of It's almost like an old-timey Batman universe too. like The way the city is, it's very almost like it's like back in time but not. it's It's retrofuturism but it's really not. It's a strange i city in that think it could work and I think the contrast would be awesome to see.
01:25:32
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like, like, again, just the contrast between that Gotham and how nice metropolis is and how like bright and like from the suicide squad to peacemaker, to creature commandos, to Superman, although they're,
01:25:46
Speaker
I mean, they're totally not all the same, like, but yeah it it is bright and colorful. And then you put that next to the Batman universe where it's like dark, gray, gritty. I think that contrast would work incredibly well together. I'd be so curious to see how they would do that. And I think an easy way to go about this is you continue doing the Batman movies, but then you have like the Batman Brave and the Bold. And all you do is you pretend that Robert Pattinson's 10 years into the future.
01:26:13
Speaker
And then it's like, you know, 10 years later. So you have like essentially these prequel movies going on of the Batman, the Bat Reeves Batman movies. And then you have like a more grizzled older Batman, again, still played by Robert Pattinson.
01:26:27
Speaker
He's not big enough. Isn't he also just a small stature Batman in comparison? He's the smallest Batman other than Michael Keaton. I don't, that's the one thing, like he's a very detective Batman. He's, he's got the gadgets, he's got the smarts, but he's not, I don't know. I don't buy it. There's something about it. It's like, he's going to run the justice league. There's this element of the way that James guns universe is running. It's, it seems like it's just so wacky in every way. Yeah. I guess if you skip into the future and there's no meta humans, I guess yet, this is like nobody, there is no supernatural aspect of the Batman movie.
01:27:03
Speaker
Nothing. That's the thing. like Think about how metahuman-based Superman is just on its own. the guys saw The Suicide Squad movie, which is half canon, half not, or whatever. yeah like That is also crazy. The crazy, wacky shit is going on.
01:27:19
Speaker
I just, I don't buy that they work together tonally. they They're so far off. But is there also the question of, does Robert Pattinson just show up and we're not pretending that he's the same universe, that it's just Robert Pattinson in a different universe as the Batman in this Brave and the Bold, as in they're not related. But that's all that's more confusing than Henry Cavill.
01:27:39
Speaker
I'd rather see Henry Cavill. That would be really, really cool. I think Henry Cavill is kind of perfect, actually. And and I don't know why i didn't see that before. But I guess because he was Batman. I start you with Superman, but yeah. um Yeah. Cause that's a pretty good rule to get. If you're Henry Cavill and you lost the role of Superman.
01:27:56
Speaker
I don't know if he cares that much. Maybe he just likes Superman though. i don't know if you would want it. I would want it that damn. Yeah. It'd be so cool. I'd rather have Batman than Superman. Personally, his Superman is so dark as well.
01:28:07
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It's I feel like he just, he fit right in as Batman and he's older than he's older older than Pattinson, right? I imagine. Yeah. I don't actually know. confident in that. Yeah.
01:28:21
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How old is... Which makes sense for Brave the Bold, because he's gonna have a son. That's what He's 42 years old. Robert Pattinson. Oh, I should have given you one, and I should should have taken the other.
01:28:33
Speaker
I looked at Henry Cavalier. He's 39. So they're fairly similar in age. Okay. Three years of apart. It's not really that... Okay. Cool. Yeah. But yeah, they're just different. There's like the goth aspect of him.
01:28:44
Speaker
he's very ah He's a loner. But you're right. If he skipped 10 years in the future, yeah, it's interesting. Would you want that though? I guess there's a question of could it happen and then there's the do you want it? Like could it happen? Yeah, I guess I agree with you. It could theoretically happen in the way you described it 10 years in the future. Good idea. That's smart.
01:28:58
Speaker
But like, do you want it? I kind of don't want it because the tones, I think tonal shift is too much for me. And I kind of like the gritty nature of the grounded nature of Bat Reeves averse, like the Matt Reeves Batman universe. I think it's really cool to have a Gotham.
01:29:12
Speaker
the It's just a Gotham. It's just sitting in this world. the penguin is potentially gearing up for season two. Like, do we really want to have a meta human in this as well? Like maybe you'll have Mr. Friesen, but the Batman.
01:29:23
Speaker
Mr. Fleas. Batman 2 and that's kind of he's kind of metahuman-esque I guess if anyone is. I guess Man Bat is probably the closest me to a metahuman in the Batman for the Batman rogues gallery.
01:29:38
Speaker
Yeah. But do you want it? do you Do you think this is good? Does Adrian want it? Um, I, like, I wouldn't, yeah, again, i I guess so. Like, I wouldn't be opposed to it. I really like Robert Pattinson's Batman. I think, again, I just think from just a purely, like, contrast point of view, it would be super intriguing to how, like, I'd be intrigued to see how they could make it work.
01:29:59
Speaker
Because, like, in my personal opinion, I think if they do the Batman 2, it's a very likely that's probably going to be the last, the Batman movie that we're going to get. don't it'll trilogy, really? I'm worried if they do end up having two Batman movies.
01:30:13
Speaker
like two live screen, live action Batman is what I'm trying to say. It's, I think. think it might just be a little bit too. Yeah. And I think it might just be a little bit confusing.
01:30:23
Speaker
I don't know. That's a good point though. Yeah, you're right. yeah On a marketing beat perspective. So if if I'm thinking of it's either Robert Pattinson joins the DCU and he's, ah he's a part of it, or we don't get any more of Robert Pattinson as the Batman.
01:30:37
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I would rather him just join the DCU.
01:30:41
Speaker
You I'm saying? I see. Okay. fair. Okay. I love Batman as a character. I'd love to see another actor again. i love Robert Pattinson. I think he did a good job with the Batman, but I don't know. It's interesting if they're going to do another show for the Penguin and if it goes after the Batman airs, like premieres in theaters, then there's not going to be any Batman after the Penguin show in your universe.
01:31:04
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That seems weird. But the Brave and the Bold is so different as a take too because it's such a different aspect of Batman. And if it shows Gotham in a different light – but you're right though. In a marketing perspective, that's the problem.
01:31:15
Speaker
It's not about how different it is. It doesn't matter because people won't differentiate it. The question is I guess if there's two years apart between Batman movies though, between the Batman 2 and Batman Brave and the Bold, which is probably what's going happen anyway – then maybe it doesn't matter because they're not even filming. They're not, I don't think they're even ready to go with brave. I don't even know if they ever like, I'm into Batman so much that I don't care. It's my favorite character. That's why the Lego Batman thing is the most interesting Lego a sort of Lego thing that I've seen in a
Entertainment News Roundup
01:31:41
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while.
01:31:41
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But anyway. Yeah. Okay. Oh man. Before we continue. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. No, no. Yeah. I'm done with trails. I just got to run to the bathroom quick. Oh, go cool enjoy. Enjoy it
01:31:58
Speaker
I'm back. It's me. right. Welcome back, sir. It is time now to move on to the montage, a sequence of our show in which I briefly present seven of the bi-week smaller news stories as Adrian delivers.
01:32:11
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A brisk verdict. Number one, as announced at the One Piece celebration in Tokyo, the One Piece live action TV series adaptation has been renewed for season three ahead of the 2026 release of the currently in production season two.
01:32:25
Speaker
Awesome, dude. I really liked season one. I'm excited for season two. Number two, as weapons director Zack Kreger recently told publication Inverse, his Resident Evil movie will not be a retelling of the game's story or Leon's story.
01:32:40
Speaker
but a love letter to the games with different characters. i'm cool with that man i'm cool with that we already got a resident evil movie ah couple years ago that followed the first two games immaculate immac movie oh no no no no Number According to a now-deleted Ubisoft blog post, Always Sunny in Philadelphia producer and star Rob Mac is developing an adaptation of Ubisoft action video game franchise Far Cry.
01:33:05
Speaker
As previously published on the site, the series was set to be an anthology series with Alien Earth showrunner and Fargo showrunner. Noah Hawley hired on as showrunner for this new Far Cry iteration. That seems super cool, honestly. I feel like there's so many options and and things that you can do with a Far Cry. you know, set piece. It's ultimately just a marketing tool using that name. But I'd be cool with something like this. Need indeed. Number four, as reported by Publication Deadline, author Barry Eisler's John Rain novels are being developed into a TV series at Apple TV+. plus
01:33:39
Speaker
The John Rain espionage novels follow an assassin who makes his victims look... God. who makes his victims look as though they've been killed by natural causes.
01:33:51
Speaker
Look where, Simon? Where does he make his victims look, dude? um i was going to edit that part out. You got me. but Number five, as announced by the boys showrunner Eric Kripke on social media, the boys fifth and final season has wrapped production in other related news and also announced on social media. The boys Vought Rising is set to begin production this month.
01:34:16
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Cool.
01:34:20
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okay Great insight. Number six, according to The Hollywood Reporter, Wonder Woman 1984 actor Kristen Wiig has been cast as... robot yeah
01:34:34
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I love the deep cut roles. She's pretty prominent in that. Anyway, has been cast as Roboto in the upcoming Masters of the Universe film from Amazon. The movie is set to release in theaters on June 5th, 2026.
01:34:48
Speaker
Oh, crazy, dude. That's nuts. ah She's playing Mr. Roboto from that Domo Arigato Mr. Roboto? No. That's different. Masters of the universe. You know He-Man? He-Man. Are you excited for this? I never watched He-Man. Okay. But I never watched He-Man. Or played with the toys. The action figures were big. and Never played with the toys.
01:35:08
Speaker
Never played with the toys. I just... I like the meme. You know the... You know the meme. The rainbow. He-Man. It's like, man. and' the Well, there's that that music video. Yeah, yeah. yeah is that what you mean?
01:35:18
Speaker
Yeah. With the four non-blondes or whatever? with Yeah. the Three non-blondes? How many non-blondes are there? There's four of them. Yeah, there's four non-blondes. Excellent. Number seven has teased by publication, The Hollywood Reporter and teased by actor Ryan Reynolds.
01:35:35
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Deadpool is set to appear in the upcoming Avengers team up film, Avengers Doomsday. That's awesome. This is exciting because again, contrast, how is he going to play off?
01:35:45
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And I really, I really hope they incorporate beeps into the movies like bleeps, like when he's like, oh yeah, he's going to be swearing and it's going to be bleeped out and he's going to break the fourth law and be like, dude, what the fuck?
01:35:56
Speaker
They're like, what the bleep? Or they give him the one fuck. and he's and he's And he's aware of it. He's like, I know I can only say the F word once. So I'm saving it for a certain part in the movie. But then someone else comes in and says the F bomb instead of him. And then he gets mad. I feel like that's a good bit. It's a good joke.
01:36:12
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I wrote it. Use it. That's a good guess. I bet you that'll happen. and That's a good take. I like that. Number eight, a bonus number eight. As Variety reports, Severance star Tramiel Tillman has been cast in Sony's upcoming Tom Holland Spidey film Spider-Man Brand New Day.
01:36:32
Speaker
That's amazing. I wonder if he's going to play Miles Morales. Jesus.
01:36:40
Speaker
Is that slightly racist? i don't know. Is it? Wait. but No, that's... Well, it's weird that he's the announced. Maybe he's he could be he put could play the cop. Morales.
01:36:53
Speaker
Have they had... What's his name? What's his name? His first name, Morales. um But that that ah that is actually a thought, but I feel like it is also kind of racist because why can't we have another black character? Like, yeah, it has to be the the prominent ones, you know, whatever. Anyway, bonus number nine, as reported by Deadline, kickass, kickass.
01:37:12
Speaker
What am I saying? I'm speaking words really weirdly. Kickass actor, Nicolas Cage and a kickass actor. Nicolas Cage is in talks to star in season five of True Detective on HBO. Oh,
01:37:24
Speaker
I gotta watch True Detective. I feel like I would love it. i' Why haven't i watched this? And by the way, he was only in Kick-Ass 2. No, I'm lying to you.
01:37:35
Speaker
I'm thinking of Jim Carrey. Yeah. Anyway. um But yeah, no, you should watch it. it's The first season especially, in in particular, is is really great.
01:37:46
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And that concludes The Montage. Montage.
01:37:52
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Oh my goodness. that was ah That was a bit of a mess of the montage. But it's ah it's all good. I also wrote this out of order, I guess, because I i i should have put the reviews after the montage in the document.
Show Reviews & Critiques
01:38:04
Speaker
Anyway, sorry sorry to throw you for a loop if I did. But we're on to the reviews, the things we we've been watching, Adrian. It's time now to talk about the things we've been watching this bi-week.
01:38:15
Speaker
So what did you watch this bi-week period? Okay, Simon. um I mean, there's a couple things that both of us watch. I guess we'll save that for later. We'll save that for later. do it. Okay. Let's do it. You give me your your things you watched alone, and then I'll give you my things I watched alone, and then you will give me your things that we watched together, and we will discuss them.
01:38:34
Speaker
Okay, cool, man. So there's two things that I watched actually with my fiance. One that I've already watched in the past. And one that I have not watched in the past, but she's watched in the past. Okay.
01:38:44
Speaker
So the first one is a movie that she recommended. um It's called Sleeping With Other People. It stars Jason Sudeikis and Alison Brie. Um, it's kind of like a rom-com.
01:38:56
Speaker
It's pretty funny. It's essentially about like, um, Jason's like Alison Brie and Jason Sudeikis. They kind of like meet in college because Alison Brie's like being crazy in his dorm and she's trying to bang, um, um, Mark from severance, but it's not Mark.
01:39:12
Speaker
It's, he plays a different guy. Adam Scott. Adam Scott. Yeah. Um, was that you fishing or you didn't, you knew his name and you didn't want to, I was seeing if you were paying attention.
01:39:22
Speaker
I was seeing if you were paying attention, son. Um, and you know, she, she like shows up at the dorm room. That's kind of like the setup of the movie. And then they, you know, like chase, like she's getting kicked out of the dorm and then Jason's like, Oh, actually she's here for me, blah, blah, blah.
01:39:37
Speaker
And then they end up losing their virginity and then they never see each other for like a decade. And they meet up again but at a, uh, at a sex addict, um, like meeting, like, ah like an Alcoholics Anonymous, but for sex addicts.
01:39:51
Speaker
Right? feel like you you missed part of the story. They lost their virginity to each other? Yeah.
01:39:59
Speaker
Who describes them like that? How should I describe it? Did I miss a line that you said or they had sex? Yeah, they both lost their virginity at at the same time with one another.
01:40:12
Speaker
Yeah. You didn't say to one another though. get of It have with someone else. Anyway, I don't know. When you listen to it back, maybe you'll maybe maybe I'm crazy or you're crazy. One of those. But I get it now. I get it. I'm just trying to make it clear. I'm trying to understand. That's all i'm true all I'm trying to do.
01:40:25
Speaker
Make it clear for me. That's all I care about. But continue. Continue. Okay, cool. So, yeah, and that's kind of the setup of the movie. You know, Jason Sudeikis kind of like ah like a sleazebag. He can't hold down a relationship. He's just banging women, yada, yada, yada.
01:40:42
Speaker
And Alison Brie is obsessed with Adam Scott since ah college. And he's kind of like – not necessarily like taking advantage of her, but like, um you know, kind of just like he's her – he's her She's his side piece.
01:41:00
Speaker
Long story short, while he's like, you know, in a relationship with other people, but like an Alison Brie, she's like dating other people, but she like cheats on them with Adam Scott's character and consistently. And, you know, that's kind of the setup of the movie. And then Jason Sudeikis and Alison Brie meet up again, and it's about them kind of.
01:41:17
Speaker
Being like, hey, we you know we both have bad relationships with with like yeah the ah other gender. like You're obsessed with Adam Scott. I can't hold down a relationship. Let's be friends and kind of figure our our shit out.
01:41:28
Speaker
And that's kind of the you know how the movie plays out from there. And you know like the one thing I want to give this movie credit for is that although it's a rom-com, it doesn't necessarily follow the same like rom-com formula in the sense of like – oh like will they won't they they have a huge fight and then they get back together at the end it doesn't follow it from like that um i do really like jason sudeikis and allison breeze chemistry in the movie i think they play off each other ah very well and it's it's cool to see these like two kind of shitty people in a in a weird way trying to make themselves better and using you know working together to you know
01:42:06
Speaker
be better people for lack of a better term to like their future partner. um And yeah, like, I think there's a lot of, of good in this movie. I enjoyed it. I don't think it's like the best rom-com movie. I don't think it's the funniest movie ever, but it's, you know, it's worth a watch. It is very sexual.
01:42:23
Speaker
There's like some very like, like pretty like deep sex scenes in it where I'm like, Oh, it almost feels out of place in the movie. Although it's about sex and like, you know, them trying to figure out their sex lives, but like, there's like these specific scenes where it's almost like a hard stop where it almost like, it feels like a, like soft core porn, you know, where you're around where I'm like, Oh my God.
01:42:47
Speaker
Um, they, they have Alison Brie and like very seductive outfits. Like, it's like, is it a soft core porn? softcore born as like the peacemakers season two scene yeah kind of actually yeah kind of really wait not not to that is crazy as that okay no no no But there is, yeah, there is a lot of that like kind of going on. And I feel like the movie would have honestly been better if they kind of toned down the over-the-top sexual nature of it. I feel like it's almost unnecessary.
01:43:19
Speaker
And like there are some sex scenes that just go on for too long where it's like, this is weird. like Why am I watching from beginning to completion? like multiple times in this movie.
01:43:29
Speaker
It's like, it's, it's kind of pointless. And I guess it's just a way to bring viewers in. Cause I guess sex house, but in my opinion, it's, it's a little bit vulgar, um, for an otherwise pretty, pretty, you know, good movie. And it's like kind of heartfelt and funny.
01:43:44
Speaker
And then it's just like, all of a sudden it's like a very like intense, sexy. And I'm like Whoa, man, this is like 50 shades of gray. All of a sudden, dude, like what's, what's happening. Um, But yeah, all in all enjoyable. Again, great cast.
01:43:56
Speaker
I think, again, yeah Alison Brie. i love Alison Brie as an actress. Like one one of my big um celebrity crushes. um I really got to watch together still. I'm kind of annoyed. I don't think it's in theaters anymore. Maybe at Princess.
01:44:11
Speaker
But yeah, like it's... a I'd recommend it. If you're in the mood for like a nice little um rom-com, spend a little bit of time plus a couple of like very ah intense sex scenes,
01:44:22
Speaker
You should get a bill give it a look. So this movie directed by Leslie Hedlund, who is the showrunner for star Wars The Acolyte. Oh, really? Yeah.
01:44:33
Speaker
Damn. I have idea. is Are there sex scenes in Star Wars The Accolade? There are not. There are not. Oh, interesting. Yeah. interesting. Yeah.
01:44:43
Speaker
Wonderful. Okay. She's also the showrunner for Russian Doll, which is quite well regarded. Yeah. I have heard good things. ah Natasha Lyonne's in this movie as well.
01:44:55
Speaker
Oh, okay. Yeah. That kind of makes sense. Yeah. Who stars in Russian Doll? I guess I should make that connection. Yes. For the average Joe. Yeah. um Well done. So that's one of the things I watched.
01:45:08
Speaker
Actually, another movie, I didn't even mention this. ah This is a movie that both me and my fiance haven't seen before, but I think I bought brought it up. um K-pop Demon Hunters. It's that Netflix original like animated movie.
01:45:21
Speaker
um It's pretty good, actually. It's actually really good. There's a couple of bangers Sony movie, right? It is indeed a Sony movie. Very, very great animation style. I think these like Sony animated movies are...
01:45:35
Speaker
Pretty great. Like I think about like um Mitchell's versus the machines prime example, obviously the spider-verse movies. Yeah. Also Netflix, the spider-verse movies look phenomenal. This movie, the animation style again, looks really cool.
01:45:48
Speaker
um I'm obviously not the target demographic for this movie. So I got like, going to, you know, put point that out. Like I, I'm not in a K-pop and like, this is, I think made for, you know, like a a younger, you know, woman audience, ah yeah like kids essentially. Yeah.
01:46:01
Speaker
But it doesn't take away from it just being like a really good kids movie. um There's some cool action scenes. um A good like. What's the word I'm looking for?
01:46:12
Speaker
like Message, I guess. There's like a good message to to like young women um within the movie. um It's quite funny. Ken Jeong's also in it. He plays like an agent, like the agent for the K-pop group that we're following.
01:46:27
Speaker
And I just really like Ken Jeong. um I'm just going to start listing off all the community actors, actually, and all the things I've watched. Yeah, that's the only the only actors you mentioned.
01:46:38
Speaker
yeah yeah Or actors from community. Yeah. um So yeah, it's it's good. I obviously wouldn't recommend it to you. I i don't think this is for you, but um it is a good watch. And again, couple of those songs in that movie, genuine bangers.
01:46:54
Speaker
Genuine bangers. Good, good, good. I really enjoyed it. I mean, Netflix is canceled for me right now, so there's no way I'm watching it right now anyway. okay. Fair enough. Fair enough, Simon. Fair enough. um And the third and final thing, apart from the things that me and you both watched independently of one another and one together with one another, is um me and my fiance just wrapped up season one of Stranger Things.
01:47:18
Speaker
She's never seen it before. This was a rewatch for me the the second time I've watched a show. And man, Stranger Things is a special goddamn show. We talk about like Netflix not necessarily hitting, you know, quality consistently. Yeah, that one, they hit the nail on the head, yeah. 100%.
01:47:31
Speaker
hundred percent Ball out of the park, for sure. Yeah. One interesting, actually, this is a good opportunity to bring it up because you actually didn't mention this in the story. um The Duffer brothers who created Stranger Things, they're moving from Netflix over to Paramount.
01:47:47
Speaker
I don't know if you you heard this So they signed a deal with, I think it's Paramount. I'm pretty confident it's Paramount to produce content for Paramount moving forward. They're still working with their Netflix partners for all Stranger Things related projects, but they are now like making a deal with Paramount to create content exclusively for Paramount.
01:48:08
Speaker
So that's actually one thing that we didn't even bring up. In the story. ah In the stories that we discussed today. Yeah. yeah In the news. yeah Yeah. um But yeah, Stranger Things, man. see that we Again, we binge watched the first season.
01:48:22
Speaker
It's so good, dude. The cast of characters. It's cool to see like all these kids. It's kind of funny to like see them now. like Millie Bobby Brown is married and is adopting a child or some shit.
01:48:33
Speaker
like and And like she's like a little – she's a kid in the show. So it's funny to see like how much they've grown over the years. But I think like David Harbour in the show is so – he's cool.
01:48:45
Speaker
He just like oozes cool. It's like gruff. That's where he like hit it big, I guess. Right. Cause he wasn't that, yeah like he was acting around, but he's not, he was never as big as after that show.
01:48:58
Speaker
mean, good for him. Cause he's so great. I just love him and everything. Honestly. Yeah. He's really great. He is really great. And obviously Winona Ryder is phenomenal, but like, The first season is masterful because it's telling essentially three stories that will that intersect like later on in the season.
01:49:16
Speaker
And it's cool because like you're watching it and it doesn't do the frustrating thing of like once. how How can I word this? The people believe each other and you don't have to go through the loop of like, Oh my God, like, oh this like, Oh, is she crazy? Yada, yada, yada. Again, i'mm I'm kind of explaining this poorly. They cut to the chase.
01:49:38
Speaker
Yeah. They cut to the chase and it's like a tight eight episodes That is like this mystery unfolding in front of you. It's also dark, if I remember correctly, like in a way that is really, really great. And it doesn't, there's not a lot of like ah handholding. It is a horror in some aspects, certainly, even though there's kids in it, which is again, there's like that, i had that criticism of skeleton crew, how like stranger things is kind of like an Amblin movie, like a, like a, like a, like an ET or, yeah you know what I mean?
01:50:09
Speaker
And so I don't think that skeleton crew and contrast nailed it. Whereas stranger things does. And it's more frightening than ET. And certainly I guess they're going for um a darker tone too, but it's, it's really good. Yeah.
01:50:22
Speaker
That's cool. I didn't remember the three intersections. I did. I do vaguely the intersecting stories, but that's what the last season does really well. The intersecting stories, which is really exciting to to to remember. Yeah.
01:50:34
Speaker
So yeah, I'm excited to keep on watching this. Um, yeah I really loved it. I don't know why. Like, every time I think about Stranger Things, like, yeah, it's really good. But it's like, it's not, like, amazing. And then, yeah, me just kind of re-watching this first season. I'm like, yeah no, man, this was actually special. like not um Like, I remember where I was when I started watching the first episode. I was in my, like, old, not not the house that I moved into um back in, like, Maryhill, but, like, my...
01:50:58
Speaker
my house that I grew up in in for high school. I remember watching the first episode. I think it was like Halloween or something because remember kids coming to the door and it kind of just fits. um Brilliant show, man.
01:51:09
Speaker
Brilliant show. I do remember not loving season two as much, but again, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe maybe I'm misremembering. um I think it's the worst one. Yeah. Season three is really good again.
01:51:21
Speaker
And then season four, I think is maybe their best work, but I don't remember. I didn't, at that point I didn't remember season one as much. So maybe you're again, watching it all together. You're going have a different perspective, which will be cool to see.
01:51:33
Speaker
Um, yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I love that show. It's great. And I'm glad that I'm rewatching it.
'Alien Earth' & Adaptation Discussions
01:51:39
Speaker
It's nice to have like comfort food, man. Um, I mentioned like, I'm super excited to watch.
01:51:44
Speaker
Yeah. Popcorn TV. Yeah. And there's, again, there's a level of comfort when you're rewatching something where it's like, yeah you're remembering things like, oh, I kind of forgot about that. But then there's this, but why do you point behind you?
01:51:57
Speaker
Well, don Dawn is watching Buffy for the second time all the way through. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. And I think it's just funny because that's exactly what she does all the time. And she's seen The Office so many times over again because it's it's right. It's comfort food.
01:52:09
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That's the best way to describe It's comfort TV. Yeah. So, ah yeah, I'm excited to keep watching this and kind of go go through it. I'm definitely going – like we're going to binge through the first four seasons far before the the most – you know, season five comes up. But I don't know. i don't really mind.
01:52:27
Speaker
Take a little break and then hop into season five once that comes out. But I did mention, you know, I am very excited for Alien Earth. And I do want to watch it. But it's like – that's also – I only have the Disney pre Plus basic – And there's ads. And again, as I mentioned earlier, like I don't necessarily want to watch the show with an advertisement every like five minutes.
01:52:46
Speaker
Yeah, just just wait. Yeah. So i'm I'm just going to upgrade to like proper Disney Plus. Once it's done, going to binge it. I'm very stoked for this. By all accounts, it's really great. Timothy Oliphant with bleached eyebrows. It's very exciting.
01:52:59
Speaker
I love Timothy Oliphant. I think he's great. Yeah. Yeah, I'm worried about spoilers because, like, yeah, like, again, I'm still seeing some things pop up on my feed. I'm kind of scrolling away. Yeah. So, um yeah, but I am stoked for that show.
01:53:12
Speaker
I'm excited to jump into it. The one thing that I wanted to touch on, though, about ads, at least with Disney+, plus where they put the ads, they make sense. Like it feels like they, they, I feel like the people at Disney, i don't know, maybe they have an algorithm, but it feels like it's curated to be like, okay, cool. There's like a scene break. So we're going to put an ad here. Yeah, that's good.
01:53:34
Speaker
Talking about Craig basic. I've craved basic. They just throw ads in the middle of a conversation. And I guess that can lead us into ah peacemaker eventually. Actually, no, you, you tell your piece, you tell your piece.
01:53:47
Speaker
Yeah, sounds good. But actually, talking about ah Alien Earth for one second, I didn't watch it, but but I just want to say, like, Noah Hawley is really good at this type of thing, I think. Like, just taking ah an IP and making it like just sing i think he did a good i didn't watch it and i really intended to but they kind of canceled that the x-men did you end up watching that x-men watched the first season legion you liked it right it's good i really liked the first season yeah fargo is excellent i cannot stress this enough i love it so much and i and i'm on i'm i'm again it's funny i watched all three seasons and i'm i stopped at season four and i think it's on crave now so i can watch season four which is really exciting Yeah. So i'm I'm looking forward to that. But Alien Earth is reviewed really well. Wasn't like 100% or something like that on Rotten Tomatoes? It's like really high, right? It's like 80 something 90 something. Oh, 80. Okay. 80, 90. Yeah, it's hot it's high though, which is awesome. I think he just nails it. He understands he really or works to understand. He does his homework to understand the IP that he's going to adapt.
01:54:51
Speaker
Fargo is like, like who would have thought that would have ever have worked, I think, as a TV show. I think that I don't know. It's incredible that he made it work. And then we talk about Far Cry, which we just mentioned, that Far Cry is that a perfect thing to make a TV show. I don't think there's anything more perfect.
01:55:08
Speaker
Followed is a good example of something to make more perfect because of the same thing that Zack Greger said, is that Resident Evil should not be Resident and Evil again, the same retelling we did in the in the games. Because this what are we gaining from that necessarily? We don't want to see a new story, a different story that that that kind of feeds off of that world because Resident Evil is kind of anthology-esque. You would know better than I. it is. In some way. It's a series because the characters carry over.
01:55:36
Speaker
Yeah, there are sequels, but like again, like I feel like Resident Evil 7 is a prime example of kind of a a soft reboot. It's in the universe, but new cast of characters, different type of zombie stuff going on.
01:55:50
Speaker
um And like all the games, the ones that do... It's never like a direct sequel in the sense of like... It ends on a cliffhanger and then the next game picks up. Like there are big gaps between them. So it's like, you know, you have Resident Evil 1 with ah Chris Redfield and them. And then like he shows back up in like Resident Evil 5. But it's like many years later in a different country.
01:56:12
Speaker
Or Resident Evil 2 with Leon. And then Resident Evil 4 again with Leon. But again, many years later in a different country. And he's like older and more gruff. like So it's they're connected, but they're never...
01:56:24
Speaker
Direct sequels, except for Resident Evil seven and eight, which like eight is actually a direct sequel to seven, which is interesting. yeah But again, it nine Resident Evil nine seems to be like it's a new original character. She's, I think, a daughter of a character in one of the games, um one of the spinoff games.
01:56:41
Speaker
um And it is like a a new story. Doesn't doesn't seem to have the characters from the previous games in it. Like the main cast. I'm sure they'll show I almost feel like Resident Evil again, like most TV shows, sorry, like most games should be made into a TV show.
01:56:58
Speaker
I think the Far Cry though, as it, yeah, two did really well. Yeah, it was very poorly reviewed. It made into a good TV show with somebody who's responsible and knows how to make a TV show and knows how direct and write something that would make sense in the world.
01:57:14
Speaker
You never watched that TV show on Netflix, did you? No, was rated incredibly poorly, but i I kind of want to watch it just because Lance Reddick is in it, and everyone says that he's the best part of that show. He's really good at everything he's in. Yeah, so.
TV Show Praise & Critiques
01:57:26
Speaker
yeah so Yeah. But anyway, my point with that is Noah Hawley is obviously doing Far Cry and I think Far Cry fits so well. Like the idea of this survival game, you just throw somebody on a tropical island and and like you throw them in a ah harrowing situation where there's like ah basically abusive people that are hurt crazy bullies.
01:57:45
Speaker
this the that Literally just abuse the abuse is the protagonist in the in these Far Cry games, every single version of it. I think it's perfect because, ah again, Far Cry very much an anthology series. And you can if you change every season, which is what their plan is, to do an anthology season it's sorry ethology series for every season being different, I think it could be really, really great.
01:58:05
Speaker
I, uh, I'm curious what Rob McElhinney's, oh, sorry, Rob Mac now, what his opinion is on Far Cry, because I've never seen him. I've never really seen him talk about video games at all. Have you seen him in an interview talk about video games? You you probably see him more than me because of what we're sending in Philadelphia. Obviously he made Mythic Quest, which is i love story, like a love letter, I should say, to video games in some way. But I've never seen him actually talk about playing them. And that I find that odd, actually. i never even realized that until maybe now.
01:58:33
Speaker
But anyway. Yeah, I don't think I've seen him in it. I don't really watch much of his interviews at all, to be fair. But yeah, I've never seen him talk about it. But I mean, it seems like he has a passion for video games because, again, he created Mythic Quest.
01:58:44
Speaker
He's one of the creators on Mythic Quest. Great news. Yeah. Noah Hawley and Rob Mack, the Mythic Quest, and then the like the guy the greatest adapter of random kind random thing ever. IP, yeah. the Name IP here.
01:58:59
Speaker
um I think that combo could be magic in in theory. But yeah, anyway. Yeah. No, I'm going to talk about what I watched. that long All right. A few things.
01:59:13
Speaker
ah I just started watching Slow Horses season. I on season four? I get confused because they blur together. Yes. Season four. think season three is nominated or is a season four nominated at the, I think season four nominated at these particular Emmys this year.
01:59:30
Speaker
But this season has Hugo Weaving in it, and I really like Hugo Weaving personally. I think he's great. And so this is a good season. Like every other season of Slow Horses because it's one of the best and most consistent shows on Apple TV. They're short.
01:59:44
Speaker
They're six episodes each. They're filmed all at once. They're actually filmed with two seasons back to back, but each season is filmed in such a way that it's almost filmed like a movie is filmed.
01:59:55
Speaker
So they film it and then they split it up at it i like basically smart spots within each episode. cut or Sorry, within this. There's basically, I'm describing that horribly.
02:00:05
Speaker
They split it up six times to make it a show is essentially what I'm trying to say. They film it as a giant movie, like a six hour movie and then split it up six times. Which is cool. And they just find little cliffhangers to split it up with because it is week to week because it is on Apple TV ah plus.
02:00:20
Speaker
But it is a really great show. Gary Oldman's amazing in it. I recommend it. I cannot recommend it enough to the average average watcher of TV. It's a comedy in some way. It's about a bunch of screw ups working in a And like a part of MI5 where only the screw ups work because they screwed up badly, but they're not screwed. They didn't screw up enough to get fired. It's such a crazy thing. And Gary Oldman's in charge of these people in there. And they still continue to screw up in the episodes. And Gary Oldman's always eating something while explaining something. And his acting is impeccable as usual. it's and It's good. It's really great. I love it.
02:00:52
Speaker
Anyway, and each season's... really satisfying. And man that's that's comfort food for me. It's like popcorn TV. It's weird because it is kind of deeper, but it's really, really great character studies. Each actor is like going into this and their character studies of these characters.
02:01:08
Speaker
um I really like it. It's great. Anyway, the other thing I watched, and i must say, it may be my favorite season of this entire show, is the Bear season four. i legitimately think it's amazing. I cannot believe that it is reviewed so poorly in comparison to the other seasons, not poorly in general, because it's still 80% of Rotten Tomatoes.
02:01:26
Speaker
But still, what on earth were people thinking? I don't understand. Season three is so much worse. So much worse. They don't get anywhere. Everyone's spinning their wheels the entire season in season three, I find.
02:01:38
Speaker
And there's like good moments and good episodes, like the that one episode following, what's her name now? Jeff. Jeff, what's Jeff's name? I can't remember her name, but she's really great.
02:01:50
Speaker
um in season three, like that one episode that de follows her journey. Oh, oh ah yeah. Oh my goodness. You're looking at me like I'm crazy. Anyway. i like I don't know what you're like yelling. Is that that one? You're saying and Jeff. I'm like Jeff Winger? like the No, Jeff. if She says Jeff. She's the one that that that joke comes from.
02:02:07
Speaker
but can't remember her name anyway. Oh my God. She's great. She's great throughout all three, all four seasons. But, It's such a great ensemble cast in general, but season four is is really good and very hopeful. You you described it as like, it's i think you said this, almost like Ted Lasso in some aspect.
02:02:22
Speaker
like It is more positive, and I really appreciate that because like these characters need to go on a more positive journey. They need to kind of develop in ah in a positive way, and that's why I feel like season three is a letdown a little bit because I feel like characters kind of regressed, if not just stayed still. They kind of stood in the same position, whereas season four, they really did – move forward, especially Jeremy Allen White's character. I think that, like, Carmi really moved forward, and I think that's really cool. And, man, there's there iss a there's a wedding episode I think is, like, remarkable. I think it's so good. It's so long. it's very It's a very long episode as well. But there's a lot of, like – it's a very relatable and grounded show, too. And it's just – it feels like these are real real people in in a way that –
02:03:03
Speaker
a lot of shows don't depict real people. I guess Ted Lasso tries to do this too in a way, but and shrinking, but they they they all have mental health issues in some aspect, like kind of we all do in some way, in some small way, you know what i mean? And they're all working through it. And I think we're all working through our own issues in some way. And I think they just do such a great job. The acting is so good. The writing is so good. there It does...
02:03:24
Speaker
but Something about the show I
'The Bear' Season 4 Discussion
02:03:25
Speaker
feel like, and I am okay with it, but I wonder maybe that's why it was reviewed badly, is they they take their time maybe a little bit too much with some of the scenes where the two characters just having a dialogue between each other. The last episode is incredibly, much very much a bottle episode.
02:03:38
Speaker
But I love that episode. It's so good. Yeah. I love it, but I think maybe it was criticized because it was too standing still-ish. yeah literally people are they're literally standing still. And, and that, but I don't think that's bad though. I think it's brilliant. I think the dialogue is brilliant. I think the way it's acted is brilliant. And it's, it's just, they're working through it.
02:03:56
Speaker
It's just this aspect of the, everyone working through it. it Yeah. if ah If anything bothered me, it was, as I guess, some of the choices, like one of the characters made a choice that I think is a bit stupid, and I'm hoping that they maybe go back on it. That's the only thing I can say, because I think that the angle, the way that they – the thing they chose, I think, is is maybe misguided, and I think that they might deceive.
02:04:20
Speaker
Sydney specifically, or – No, no, no, not Sydney. Oh, no, no. It's car me. But anyway, Oh, okay. I understand. There's an aspect there where it's like, there's just a little bit of like you, maybe you're going, you're like kind of throwing the baby out with the bath water in some aspect, but I just loved his performance the whole time. And I love the writing for his character the whole time. I just think it's great. And again, it's crazy how many cameos you mentioned this a few episodes back of our podcast. You mentioned how many cameos there are in the bear season four and how like, it's crazy that they could just have all of these actors in it and constantly and there's always like a surprise like matt damon in the f freaking coffin or whatever in in oh man i don't want to spoil that i guess if someone hasn't seen it but you know what i'm talking about that moment where matt damon wakes up and you're like oh well well that's matt damon in a particular movie and you're like what why is matt damon in this It's just crazy.
02:05:10
Speaker
um I won't say what movie that is, but it's it's really cool. ah So I really love it. I cannot, I don't know if it's my favorite one. I think season two is really, really strong. I think season one was amazing. And then they had a budget that they didn't have a season when it looked like, and then they just took what season one was and amplified.
02:05:26
Speaker
It's like, just us amplify this because it's amazing. And then season three was a bit of a letdown, but it's still really good. And then season four is if not the best season is the second best season of the, of the, of the series. And I'm very excited for season five.
02:05:39
Speaker
Wow. Christopher Storer, what a showrunner, let me say. What a director. Great job, which is so good. Again, got me funny. I finished Death Stranding 2, same day I finished The Bear.
02:05:50
Speaker
I had a bad day that day at the end of the night. I was like, man, this is a – I'm not feeling super well on a mental perspective. I already have anxiety. I'm like, this is – Anyway, so I was really sad at the end of that.
02:06:04
Speaker
Very emotional journeys for both of those properties. Great job for both. Hideo Kojima, Christopher Storer, good job. Anyway, um I really liked it. The Bear Season 4, excellent. Can't stress enough. Don't know what the hell the reviewers are talking about. I even i didn't read the reviews, but I don't understand how it's it's absurd that people – The reviews say that that's the worst season because it's just – It is objectively not.
02:06:32
Speaker
Objectively. Right. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. It's very strange. I think that maybe they're just, maybe they thought it was like a little bit too full of itself because it its holds on, it holds on certain scenes for too long.
02:06:46
Speaker
But I just don't agree. I just think that, I think that they, they told the story they wanted to tell. But. Yeah, it's 84% right now. It's 89% for season three and then 99% for season two, which I think is warranted. I think it should have been another 99 personally for season four. I agree.
02:07:05
Speaker
But yeah, anyway. Yeah, cool. That's all I watched apart from what you and I watched together.
Peacemaker Recap Critiques & Future
02:07:10
Speaker
so let's just jump into it. Which one you want to do for a superhero fare or a dark, weird horror movie?
02:07:18
Speaker
just talk about Peacemaker because that's only one episode. We can kind of get through it relatively quick. So I mentioned earlier in the episode that you know I really like this episode, but there was you know ah like ah things that I didn't love about it.
02:07:30
Speaker
yeah And the thing that I didn't love about this episode, Simon, is isn't the episode itself. It's the previously in the DCU. Because James Gunn specifically said, I'm going to do a recap, like previously on in the DCU.
02:07:46
Speaker
Yeah. To have viewers understand what occurred before in this universe. That's relevant to the show. the Sure. That's relevant to the show. But they did not...
02:07:58
Speaker
touch on what happened in the suicide squad, which might kind of be, it which is in the universe, but not fully. They didn't touch on creature commandos at all, which there is a connection because of a specific character from creature commandos being in this.
02:08:13
Speaker
They didn't touch on- It's relevant to the story in this first episode though. I don't know, maybe like I guess not exactly. But again, there's there still is connections. And then there's also no reference to what happened in Superman.
02:08:26
Speaker
The previously in the DCU is is literally just what happened last season in Peacemaker. And in there, I'm not against it. there There is a big retcon that they include in the previously on, which I liked.
02:08:40
Speaker
To essentially be like, hey, remember that one scene that kind of fits into the DCEU? We just changed this one scene to make it work for this universe. And I do like that they added that. But only in this recap and not in the actual thing.
02:08:53
Speaker
Yeah. yeah not I don't think they redid the first thing. They didn't change it on Crave because I went back and checked. Oh, did you? That's interesting. Yeah, because I'm like, wait, way wait, wait, wait. Because they don't show the whole scene. and They're just showing a snippet of the scene as if it happened this way.
02:09:08
Speaker
Yeah. And a character's like the justice gang. I'm like, nah, she didn't say the justice gang. She said the justice league. Yeah. and But anyway, yeah I don't know. Whatever. So I, I, yeah, like I didn't like the recap because essentially just it, all it did is it was a recap of the previous season, not the entire DCU, which is like, okay, whatever. It's fine.
02:09:27
Speaker
um But again, I do like the retcon just built into it. So you can kind of, okay, cool. I'm in it. um Yeah. And the yeah other thing that the, oh, sorry, go ahead. I was going to say in the defense of the situation of the actual previously on the DCU, I think...
02:09:46
Speaker
You're right in the sense that I feel like they don't explain Rick Flagg Sr. They don't. And that's a mistake. He's in the trailer. That's why I'm saying his name.
02:09:56
Speaker
don't want to spoil anything. Yeah. but yeah they anything yeah But yeah, Rick Flagg Sr. is not explained. He's not explained really in Superman out either. But I think the idea here is...
02:10:08
Speaker
Here's what I think. I think that they don't want to explain anything that they can spoil when they don't need to spoil it because they're going to explain it in the show itself. So why explain it when you're going to explain it? Because Rick Blake Sr. explains who he is in the trailer for Peacemaker Season 2.
02:10:24
Speaker
Mm-hmm. So maybe you don't need to explain it here. Yeah. And the Suicide Squad, you don't need anything from the Suicide Squad for this because we already watched Peacemaker Season 1 and that leads into, obviously, the Suicide Squad is already in. It's already related because cor Corso, Maltese, or wherever they went, that's in that's referenced many times in Peacemaker Season 1, which I think he did – do a previously on for that for season two. So he already kind of bridged that. So you don't bridge it now because it's too late.
02:10:53
Speaker
So he'll bridge it later though. He will probably bridge scenes from the suicide squad when it's relevant to Rick flag senior, as an example, or various other characters that were related to the suicide suicide squad. I think he might just keep doing previously on the DCU as the season goes on. Cause he's just going to keep doing it before the episodes anyway.
02:11:10
Speaker
Because that's kind idea. And you'll make the, like, and like i I find that some shows spoil themselves by kind of explaining, hey, by the way, this character you haven't thought about for the last two seasons?
02:11:21
Speaker
We're going to show you a scene from them for some reason. And you're going to be like, wait a second, why are you showing us me a scene from with that character? And then it just so happens that this that particular character in that episode you're about to watch. So I feel like that that might be what the plan is. But we'll see. it it remains to be seen, obviously, because only yeah episode one has aired.
02:11:38
Speaker
It is interesting. But yeah, then they also reference some events that happen in Superman as well in the show. And obviously characters show up from Superman. That's where I agree with you.
02:11:49
Speaker
Yeah. think that's a mistake. Like, i don't know. like I feel like you could have added. There's no scenes from Superman. And what are you doing there? Because you did...
02:12:01
Speaker
use characters from Superman in this. i That I agree with. The Rick Flake thing, I don't. But that, that for sure, 100%. What the heck? You said you were going to do that, and then the only thing you have in the DCU that's really substantial, the movie, you didn't kind of reference the characters that – Are in the trailer again for Peacemaker season two. And you know that they're going to be in it. So it feels like a miss a little bit there. Cause, but how do you introduce them in the previously on? i don't even know what you do to show them.
02:12:29
Speaker
Did they, were they in it at all? They kind of were because they did because of, yeah, there's an element of it. The retcon, but yeah. Yeah, the retcon helped to to talk about these characters. Yeah, I'm not, I don't know because I didn't want not watch Superman.
02:12:46
Speaker
So like if I didn't watch Superman, maybe I would have been like, oh yeah, I don't understand who these people are. Or maybe I would have been like, you know what? I had just enough information based on the retcon clip that I would have known.
02:12:58
Speaker
I don't know. Honestly, God, that's a good question though. I don't know. i think it's hard I wonder how James Gunn does that. Does he hire a person who's not seen Superman or has seen this stuff before and said, watch this. Do you understand what's happening yeah after watching these makers season two episode one and having seen that clip, do you get it?
02:13:16
Speaker
And they're like, yes. Cause I mean, how else would you do it? Cause you're so biased. You you're so close to this. What are you going to do? So I don't know. I'm not sure, but we are obviously watching all of it. So for us, it doesn't matter. But on a marketing perspective,
02:13:28
Speaker
I would argue that the idea, that advertisement, James Gunn said, of doing that of previously on the DCU would be helpful for the marketing of the overall like the overall universe. I would agree that that he was right on that, but I feel like maybe he needs to do a little bit of a better refinement.
02:13:44
Speaker
of that format of previously on the dcu like maybe we put a little more in there but i think he also didn't want to spoil it so he's like kind of balancing he's like on a tightrope you're walking yeah you're you're walking on a fine line because it's just i mean superman again we just we talked about it earlier and it came out a month ago a month and a week ago it's like you're gonna yeah but again like you you don't necessarily have to spoil that movie
02:14:07
Speaker
I don't know. Because they reference what happens in that movie in this episode like yeah and kind of discuss. Yeah, and they don't talk about it. You're right. They don't yeah reference it, but they don't talk about it's about dimensional situation because they're doing some interdimensional weird things in this.
02:14:25
Speaker
And they didn't go into that. You're right. They should have said, here is what happened in Superman, interdimensional, whatever this is, is happening. and also And then somebody says, it's like a clip from Superman where it's just like,
02:14:36
Speaker
The Justice Gang. And then it just shows the clip of the various characters like whatever. They're just in the scenes that they're in. You know what i mean? And it just shows them flying around. And then you kind of understand who they are. That would have helped.
02:14:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think they could do better. They could do better. It was too short. You could have added another 20 seconds to that and it would have been better. But again, we're biased. But you are seeing through it. So maybe don't know how biased we are.
02:15:03
Speaker
Because – Yeah, it's cool. That's a good point. Yeah. Okay. So that's the only criticism you have of Peacemaker season two, episode one. Is that what saying? Pretty much. Yeah, i am pretty much. Oh, yeah. I really liked it Apart from that, I think the, you know, I love seeing John Cena kind of play this character. I think, you know, Jennifer Holland, i think the entire cast of the show is is really cool. And I love the...
02:15:23
Speaker
It's funny because I was talking about how I didn't like how vulgar um sleeping with other people were in like specific scenes. But there's there's something fun about the vulgarity in Peacemaker. And it works with this character.
02:15:35
Speaker
They've set the tone and it's a consist like the vulgarity is within the tone that they have set in this in this show. So I'm cool with it. um And.
02:15:46
Speaker
I really like where this first episode ends as well. And like, kind of like, Oh, where is this going to go? I think it, I think they can do a lot of really cool stuff. I really, really liked this first episode though. But again, the actually, sorry, there's one other thing I didn't like about it and it's not because of it.
02:16:00
Speaker
I kind of, I alluded to this at least Disney plus, you know, they went on the basics. They put ads at a specific part on crave again, mid conversation. John Cena is halfway through a sentence, boom ad.
02:16:12
Speaker
And then it cuts back and he finishes a sentence. No. I'm like, come on, yeah man. I just bought the one with ads. I had premium for The Last of Us, and so I canceled premium and went back to ads.
02:16:26
Speaker
Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. But for me, next week i get I get Cray basic for free included in my phone plan and my internet package and stuff. yeah So it's like it's one thing if I was paying 15 bucks, I'll pay the extra five dollars.
02:16:43
Speaker
But for me, it's an extra it's 20 bucks. It's like twenty two dollars. It's like, do I just deal with the ads and save my $22 a month for this one show that I'm going to watch, you know, four episodes a month on?
02:16:55
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to do that. I'm going to do that. If there was an upgrade option where it's like pay an extra $5 and get the premium version, I would do that. If it's like $22, no, I'm not going to. I'm not going to.
02:17:06
Speaker
Yeah, I really like this first episode. I thought it was great. um My fiance was like, because she's not into the DCU. like She hasn't watched any of this. She hasn't seen Peace Get Maker. She hasn't seen the Suicide Squad. And I was watching it on the TV as she was getting ready because we visited a friend today.
02:17:20
Speaker
um And she literally came down and like was like looking out at the TV and she's like oh like, I didn't realize like this show was so vulgar. Like she was got, but like she was laughing because there's a couple of good jokes ah spring up there. And she's like, oh, like I didn't realize this is like, this is the Peacemaker show.
02:17:37
Speaker
ah yeah Like, yeah, it's like I had no idea. she's like, was Superman like this? I'm like, no, no, no. Like but Superman was very different. oh That would be crazy. Yeah. good because like i was like yeah Because I specifically said, i was like yeah, this is the same universe as the new Superman movie. And she's like, was Superman like this? And I was like it's yeah So yeah, there there is that going for it.
02:17:59
Speaker
Isn't that crazy though? He like starts his universe off with like two pretty vulgar shows and then he's got Superman wedged in between them. And he's kind of really hyped up about Peacemaker because I think he said it was the best thing he's ever made.
02:18:15
Speaker
So he's really hyping it up constantly, which is funny because again, it's so yeah, crass. It's it quite, it is. That's cool. Yeah.
02:18:27
Speaker
Yeah. I'm also – There's clearly – Sorry. No, no. Continue. Continue. there's clear You mentioned like you don't you're kind of seeing where they're going to go with this. I feel like there's a clearly an inciting incident in this episode. It really sets up the whole season.
02:18:41
Speaker
I think that's really cool. and i think I think he did the same thing with Superman. and It was really good. like he He created like this – Right in the beginning of Superman and right in the beginning of this Peacemaker season, he created – You can see where things might go. You can't predict it, but you understand like, oh, I see.
02:18:58
Speaker
yeah Like there is some serious conflict that's going to happen based on this incident that's happened um in both things like right away like there's the key waited he basically waited in no time before he jumped into that.
02:19:10
Speaker
I have kind of predictions I think I have an idea of where they're going to go with ah some of the storylines with like. like the, like the, the family relationship that Chris has. I, I have this idea, think I want to spoil it here. So I'm not going to say it, but it would be interesting to see where it goes, but yeah, it's really cool.
02:19:27
Speaker
It's, um, It's a bit too much for me at moments in this episode, but not that much. I don't care that much. I'm pretty i'm pretty open. I don't really care that much. so but like You mentioned about the vulgarity in that that Sleeping With Other People show. I don't know. I a really high tolerance.
02:19:45
Speaker
It's like Sausage Party. You really didn't like Sausage Party. I remember you you were really pissed off after watching that movie, like the animated movie, like the the Seth Rogen. He directed that, right? Or he He may have directed in it.
02:19:58
Speaker
but show They have a show of that, and there's two seasons of it. And he's in that show, and Michael Cera's in that show. It's on Amazon. Oh, crazy. i but I like the movie enough, but I don't know. I have a high tolerance, typically. But yeah, you're right, though. Tonally, it fits. It fits within the world that Gunn built. And I have to say, like based on this...
02:20:17
Speaker
this maybe it's this episode, but maybe I must have realized it was season one. i feel like this is the closest to Super that James Gunn has ever gotten. like Super is like really a lot like this because there's like this discount hero aspect of it. and he's just there There's just like so much violence. and it's just like These people could technically really die at any time because they're just really humans. they're not and There's nothing that special about them.
02:20:42
Speaker
ah From a meta perspective, like a meta human, like protected perspective, ah like the main characters in the in the show. the Same with super. i I don't know. You ever watch super? Did you ever see that movie? No, no, no. We we we we talked about this. i haven't seen it.
02:20:56
Speaker
Yeah. Anyway, it's, it's cool. It's just like so wacky though. It's so, this is so off the beaten path from like a mainstream kind of thing. You know what i mean? There's nothing quite like this on TV. It's so wacky and crazy. And I find it hilarious that he's advertising like watch this after Superman, go watch this. I don't think this is for everyone. Personally.
02:21:16
Speaker
i have a, met I imagine that it wouldn't be like considering how the first like half an hour starts. Yeah. But I don't know. maybe Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know.
02:21:27
Speaker
um Yeah, it's good. You can show Superman to a kid. You can't show Peacemaker to a child. No, you can't. More so in this first episode than I feel like the entirety of season one.
02:21:39
Speaker
From what I remember, yeah maybe I'm wrong. I just think there are some really, there's new there's some really adult stuff in season one. Yeah. This, this was, this was a lot.
02:21:51
Speaker
This was like HBO game of Thrones level. Almost there are the boys actually, there's a boys actually that that's actually is very similar to the boys in some way.
02:22:03
Speaker
in every season there's some crazy thing in the boys like he's something that's just so insane you're like why did you have to go there um now boys is crazier actually come to think of it that pretty much all of the scenes of the the crazy one one seat one scene per season scenes in the in the boys are probably crazier than and everything in peacemaker this has had but anyway
02:22:28
Speaker
Anyway, yeah anything else you want to add? Anything else you want to say? No, i'm I'm excited to keep watching this week to week. um This is going to be like my my week to week show that I'm going to watch on my own sort of thing.
02:22:40
Speaker
Cool. My fiance. Because typically on like week to week with... With some things like it because it's like, cool, me and my fiance are going to sit down and watch the show like, yeah, every Monday or whatever, like Bachelor in Paradise every Monday. Not good. Actually, I should have talked about Bachelor in Paradise this season.
02:22:55
Speaker
Not good. They changed it. It's totally different. It's a game show now. It's like Survivor. I'm not even fucking with you. They're like voting people off the fucking. Anyways, I'm going ah off on a tangent here.
02:23:07
Speaker
Not good. Yeah. Sorry, you were saying something. Don. James Gunn had said oh ah recently, quote, lots of guest stars coming up, lots of characters that are showing up that we we've already met in Superman. I don't think that there's anything that I've ever done that I love more than this season of Peacemaker. So I'm so excited for people to see it, unquote. Yeah.
02:23:26
Speaker
I think that's an interesting quote. We did see some of those characters, though. Mm-hmm. So is that it? In the first Maybe. and You know what they should do? They should get all the actors from the bear and have them cameo in Peacemaker.
02:23:41
Speaker
Because that the bear has so many good cameos. Yeah. So now bring those characters and have them cameo into. There's bound to be crossover considering how many actors there are, you know? Yeah. This may be an accidental. It's like an incidental crossover, you know? Yeah. We just have. Yeah. But yeah, um I guess since we're still on the topic of Peacemaker, it is interesting because I think, was it the same interview with Josh Horowitz?
Blue Beetle & Weapons Film Discussions
02:24:04
Speaker
Yeah.
02:24:05
Speaker
um that James Gunn was talking about how, you know, Peacemaker fits incredibly well into the DCU. You know, again, they retconned like one thing and that they put in that previously on, but then he also talked about how Blue Beetle just fits right in as well.
02:24:20
Speaker
um So I'm curious. Okay. I kind of, I didn't watch the bo meal Blue Beetle movie. By all accounts, it's good, but I'm like, do I watch it? Because they're doing that Blue Beetle animated show.
02:24:32
Speaker
it's I think they're bringing in the same cast. right he never mentions the canon aspect of blue beetle though does he he says that it fits right into the universe the same way peacemaker does so i'm like does that does that mean that's canon i feel like yeah maybe i don't know know i gotta watch that movie i might just watch it just for the sake you watch it's just freaking marvel formula like to a t though you did watch it No, the trailer shows you the movie. I think I can predict the whole movie, I think, from the trailer.
02:25:04
Speaker
Yeah, because it's Blue Red Beetle. Yeah, Blue Beetle fights Blue Red Beetle. not against it. It is reviewed well. So I should maybe see it too, but I don't know.
02:25:14
Speaker
Okay. Cool, man. Yeah, it's good. so I'm very excited for the rest of the season. It's going to be a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So weapons.
02:25:26
Speaker
Weapons. We saw it in theaters. Very exciting. Directed by Zach Kregor. Pretty crazy. Fun fact about Zach Kregor, dude. You know what i found out about Zach Kregor? You ever watch the YouTube skit channel from back in the day called whitest kids The Whitest Kids You Know?
02:25:42
Speaker
No, I never saw it. He was a part of that. I found this out like a week or two ago. Yeah. And he was one of the main guys, a part of that. Yeah, i never watched it. So I said, what? What? Yeah. Oh man. I watched the whitest kids, you know, all the time when I was a kid, the great best is one of like the great skits on you or great early skits. Yeah. You always reference that. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I would know it.
02:26:03
Speaker
Yeah. I know it from you. Yeah. and And he's in like a lot of the skits. It was crazy. Cause again, he was part of that core group and it's, it's interesting to see that so many of these, um, comedy forward, like creators or actors can create like a phenomenal drama or horror i think of bill hater you know creating barry right zach craig are creating barbarians and now weapons like mean barry is kind of a comedy yeah it is the weapons is kind of a comedy too at times to be fair no barry is legitimately classified as a comedy yeah it is it's a comedy yeah it's half hour so is the bear yeah that's right that's why
02:26:50
Speaker
Yeah, that's why. But yeah, that was a cool story. I interrupted you there like right off the bat. But I found that out like again, like a week or two ago. And I was like, dude, what? Because again, I watched this content when I was in like high school.
02:27:04
Speaker
It's crazy. It's crazy stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, Zach Kroger directed the film. It stars lots of stars. um I should have brought up the thing. Josh Brolin, Julie Garner, Benedict Wong.
02:27:18
Speaker
Yep. ah Alden Ehrenreich.
02:27:24
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, that's the main. That's the main people. don't even need him to pull it up, Simon. Look at me going off my brain here. Very good. And Amy Madigan who killed it.
02:27:35
Speaker
in my opinion. I think she did a great job. But oh what I was going to say was, before I was interrupted there, was basically, we're not going to spoil it because it's very easy to spoil this, I feel like. We can't talk too deeply about this.
02:27:47
Speaker
just The trailer really doesn't show very much. But when I watched the trailer back today, i watched it back and I was like, oh, it actually did hint at a lot of things, but it's very, very subtle because it does these like really quick cuts.
02:27:59
Speaker
And I think it's really smart ah filmmaking and marketing to to not spoil your entire movie in ah in a trailer, which he did in both Barbarian and in this film. I feel like he just doesn't explain the plot or try to explain too much about it. He just he uses the the basic concept to bring in an audience. And he doesn't try to explain to you anything about the twist or he doesn't go too far into the story at all. He really does included the premise in the trailer and then kind of put some interspersed.
02:28:31
Speaker
He interspersed some really crazy images that really would never, you would never really connect to any particular scene. Yeah. In the trailer. So you kind of are like, whoa, that's really haunting. But what's going on exactly? I don't understand. Isn't this about kids who don't go to class?
02:28:48
Speaker
Yeah. so yeah but So you don't ever know what to expect. And I really appreciate that. I didn't know what to expect. And it was I knew to expect... What?
02:28:58
Speaker
i was like, God, no. I did not know what to expect. I feel like it's interesting. knew true on but to expect the unexpected. That's what I knew to to expect because of Barbarian. Specifically, he set the tone. I didn't know what to expect with Barbarian at all.
02:29:10
Speaker
I was like, I did not predict. I only predicted the – first little bit of that movie. And then I was like, where is this going? I didn't understand the Airbnb angle and various things, like, especially with Justin Long's character. I'm like, what is happening right now? I didn't understand that.
02:29:25
Speaker
They did the same thing here. i do I really appreciate it. Sorry. Yeah, no, no. Yeah. It's interesting because I feel like the promise of the trailer And the tone of that trailer is ultimately fulfilled in the first five minutes of the movie. And then it just kind of goes from there.
02:29:44
Speaker
but it never concludes anything in the trailer. You can't really – you can never put a pin in it, which is I really appreciate. They just set up a tone. And I think yeah the tone is is replicated in ultimately the first five minutes of the fucking movie.
02:29:57
Speaker
And then it kind of – it it maintains ah like a tone throughout it, but there is like a, just like in barbarian where there's a shift where things start revealing itself. And I think it's done very, very well. And I think it was interesting. Like once the movie ended, I, I really liked it. I was like, I like it, but it's like,
02:30:21
Speaker
I don't know, like you're on such a ride that like it's hard to figure out how you feel about it right off the bat because again, it's it's so different than honestly ah a lot of things, I guess, like apart from Barbarian, I guess. um and yeah Again, in terms of the sharp, it's like a fucking like – Drifting, not not even drifting, just like fucking pulling the handbrake on a car and just like shifting like crazy.
02:30:50
Speaker
And that's what I feel like this this movie does at like a breakneck speed at a certain point. and not And I don't mean in the way of like it's going like at breakneck speeds of like boom, boom, boom, a bunch of things thrown at you. It's just a big shift in how the story is unfolding.
02:31:05
Speaker
And... It's a mystery movie. It is. It's just very, very deep. And he understands how to tell a mystery without giving away the plot too early. He he understands. And the way he does perspective is really interesting too. Not showing the trailer at all. Like he just, he changes his perspective of characters and like tries to tell a story, which by the way, and there's a, there's a relevant aspect of this too. There's another thing we talk about that does that kind of thing where he tries to change perspective. And and we've talked about it a lot.
02:31:33
Speaker
Yeah. And I find it's interesting because the way this movie does a lot of red herrings throughout the film constantly is really ingenious too. And I think he knows what he's doing exactly.
02:31:43
Speaker
And I think the red herrings are never – they're never more interesting than the final reveal of the actual mystery, which I really appreciate. That was my criticism of a thing like WandaVision, which I feel like so many red herrings, but it's never – the payoff wasn't as satisfying as the actual – what the red herring might have led to if the, if it actually was the red herring, but this is not like that. It's it's just like, it teases little things and like has little Easter eggs in the film.
02:32:07
Speaker
And you're like, oh is it that? And you're like, and then he's like, Nope. Or, or you'd be like, yeah, he basically just said no repeatedly. He just keeps doing that over and over again. And he's like, no, no, no, no. no Yeah. Josh Brolin.
02:32:21
Speaker
was really good in this too it was supposed to be pedro pascal uh potentially but pedro pascal couldn't make the schedule work i think you might have mentioned that on either on the podcast or to me in the parking lot and we we talked about that parking lot i thought that was interesting like and then you made a funny point where you said like you know josh brolin you know who he would have done a really good job as joel and the last time i was like yeah honestly very very much yeah And we didn't really, we talked about fan casting. I think when they were casting the last of us back in the day, I think we talked about that. We discussed it. Like, what do you, who do you think should it, should it, it should be. And we didn't really pick Pedro Pascal. Like, but like, i mean, it could have been anyone, I guess, but, but Josh Bolin is a really good choice and we definitely didn't pick him either.
02:33:02
Speaker
I think that's really interesting. I don't know why, why I found this to be the thing that would tell me that he should have played Joel Miller or he could have played Joel Miller. But I feel like he he did a good job. If they ever make it, well, i was going to say if they ever make a movie of, nah, it would be too late, probably. If they ever remake The Last of Us as a TV show or a movie, it would be like 20 years from now, I feel like, or 10 years. They're never going to do it that quickly.
02:33:24
Speaker
But especially because the show is lower than 10 years. 10 years from now, to No way they they would redo that in 10 years. they did They've done Resident Evil 15 times, dude. Yeah, but they're all different. Are you serious?
02:33:35
Speaker
They're all different. Highly successful? Not really. So the idea is that The Last of Us is so successful. If you're going to do anything, you can do a film and you can do it soon after. Because you can you can do it.
02:33:46
Speaker
That's not soon after. 10 years is not soon. That's a long time. How many iterations of Batman do have we have in 10 years? yeah I don't know. That's a fair comparison. Batman to the last of us, though.
02:33:57
Speaker
Like, I don't think that's a that's a fair comparison whatsoever. I think Resident Evil is Resident Evil's. but The key difference is that the movies don't follow the games at all.
02:34:07
Speaker
And the TV show didn't follow the game at all. Resident Evil? Yeah. The last movie did. but that's the only thing that has followed the games. Yeah. That is the only thing. What if you made a movie, you could make it not a remake. You could also just do a movie separate.
02:34:23
Speaker
You could even just do, you you could do so much in that world. Theoretically, you can kind of pull, you could do Like, I feel like that's not, not at all without with, you could have a prequel to the last of us.
02:34:35
Speaker
hundred percent. in a movie form or a TV show. You could stop the TV show after this part two, and you can easily make a TV show that follows the story before. you You should make a game.
02:34:47
Speaker
You should make a game. No, you're connecting two things that aren't related. You're getting turned around here. You're saying that it's unreasonable to think that Hollywood, which makes so many remakes constantly, would make a remake of something that's incredibly popular versus something that they've made. early? Within 10 years? Resident Evil has been made 15 times. It's not that popular.
02:35:12
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It's not even close. Not even close. Those movies made millions of upon millions of dollars, Simon. Oh, yeah? The million of each movies. They were incredibly successful overseas.
02:35:22
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That's not a joke. That's not a joke. Yeah, sure. They were. The most recent Resident Evil movie wasn wasn't particularly. But you understand my point, I imagine. like yeah the Hollywood is known for doing constant remakes.
02:35:35
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It's unlikely, but like it's as just as last as likely as anything, really, because they remake things. A Star is Born was made like three or four times. Wasn't it? it Yeah, but that was over the course of like a century.
02:35:48
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so A Star is Born, a century? No, not that much. Didn't it originally come in like the 20s? The first one? First rendition? Let's see.
02:36:02
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Star is Born is 1937. Okay, so 80 years. Yeah, long time. A lot of iterations though. But yeah, anyway. yeah This is the thing you're incredulous about for my take.
02:36:14
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I barely even had a take about that. yeah Yeah, I don't know. i just yeah I was just loosely saying what if they did... Anything to do with The Last of Us, I feel like with you is incendiary. You're like, relax.
02:36:27
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It's okay. It's okay. I love The Last of Us, dude. I just didn't like season two. You're very protective. You're very protective of it, I feel like. but I think Josh Brolin. The point was Josh Brolin could make a good Joel.
02:36:39
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And there's no way Josh Brolin, the point I was making was there's no way Josh Brolin could be Joel in an iteration of The Last of Us if they remade it because he'd be too old. That was what I was trying to say because there would be a huge gap between making remaking it I said 10 years, maybe 20 years.
02:36:54
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And you're like, what? 10 years? Jesus Christ. You said 20 and then 10. You said 20 and then 10, actually. Who cares? that but bond Anyway. um But yes, that, yeah, unlikely. But yeah, very good movie. I don't know what else we can say about it. Not much. very intense.
02:37:11
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it it It doesn't. I don't know. It doesn't let up, I guess. Yeah, it's the bit funny. kind of it it does this It does a curve that's like very exponential, I find. it is funny too, but it's like an exponential curve in that it's just like rising and rising and rising to like a a fervor where it's not it doesn't let up at the end. It's just insane. And you're just like, what is this reason and reasoning for what what's happening here? Why did these kids disappear? I don't understand.
02:37:40
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And he just, he makes it interesting throughout without revealing too much too quickly. And I really appreciate it. And I think the acting is really good. And I think I would trust Zach Kregor with a lot.
02:37:52
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So I i think, i don't know. I mean, Resident Evil is not my baby. I don't care for it at all because I don't play any of the games. But I wonder. I'm excited to see what he can do with that. Because again, I think both barbarian and weapons, there are scenes in it that that feel Resident Evil coded. um Yeah.
02:38:12
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So like, I think he, he obviously, it's cool because one thing I kind of wanted to point out is like, we're in a kind of a renaissance of horror, right?
Horror Film Renaissance
02:38:22
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um In terms of movies, you have these new directors coming in, making these very well-renowned horror movies. Yeah.
02:38:30
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Specifically, I'm referring to Robert Eggers. I'm referring to ari Aster and now yeah Zachary Kreger. But the coolest part about it is there are these three directors that are prominently making horror movies, I guess.
02:38:45
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um Yeah. But all of them are so different in tone. I think I mentioned like Ari Aster has like, he has, he's mastered this level of anxiety that is consistent in all of the movies that he makes, even though not all of them are, are fully horror. Like Eddington isn't really a horror movie, but it gives you that same level of anxiety that you got with Midsommar that you got with Hereditary. Yeah.
02:39:06
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um and then again you have like robert eggers jordan peele too is another big i mean there's like mentioned a few guys but there's so many of them actually that you mentioned three really prominent ones but i think jordan peele is huge as well as modern that is true um and it is interesting i don't know if you remember but jordan peele apparently fired his entire like team back in the day for passing on the weapons movie like passing on the script and and ah the distribution for it. Like he you fired a lot of people his production company.
02:39:34
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Yeah. which I think he like heard about it and he's like what the fuck? Like you guys actually passed on this. Get out of here. um fire much Interesting. So Mike Flanagan, perhaps. Oh yeah. Mike Flanagan.
02:39:46
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God. He's great.
02:39:50
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Wow. It's interesting. Oh, I see. Yeah, I guess so. I was going to say Alien Romulus isn't that much, but Fede Alvarez. Yeah, Fede Alvarez. Because, yeah, he did Evil Dead.
02:40:01
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He did Romulus. Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. That's a lot. There's a lot of, and it was ah I mean, you could say it's a renaissance of the video game movie too, if we're going to connect that to like, there's like so many, there's actually good video game movie adaptations and TV show adaptations where we didn't have that.
02:40:18
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And that there was almost like an aspect of the Hollywood kind of giving up on it at a certain point. They're like, you know what? This can't be done. It's like, no, I think it can, but I think you just got to do it properly and you have to have to have people that care.
02:40:29
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And they didn't have that. I think the the horror renaissance, as you describe it, is like, I feel like it's caused also by the fact that it makes a lot of money and it doesn't cost a lot of money to make.
02:40:39
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And that's a big part of it. theyre There are huge theatrical releases. Like the main things in in theaters right now is horror movies and superhero, like an act slash action movies. Like that's, there's a reason for that because people are going to see those films.
02:40:53
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Yeah. So when you get a movie like even, i mean, it's kind of an action movie in some way, but you get a movie like F1 and it does as well as it does. F1. Yeah. But the thing about F1 that is a joke to me, I don't know if we talked about this, it's called F1 The Movie. It's like, ugh.
02:41:10
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Was it actually? Yeah. Oh, I don't know that. It's such a bad name. I think it was a licensing dispute with like, or not dispute, but like F1 wanted that to be the name of it. Like Formula One was like, why didn't they just call Formula One?
02:41:24
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or like I don't know. like I want to watch that movie still. It did really well in theaters. It's crazy, man. That's what's so insane is that that did so well and it's not really and it's not an action movie really and it's not ah definitely not a horror movie.
02:41:37
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So like that's what's interesting about it. When you get a movie like that, as my point, is it's kind of like an anomaly. They're like, wait, these movies can do it? Because I don't think Naked
Comedy vs. Horror Box Office
02:41:45
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Gun did particularly well as an example. Yeah, comedies I just think traditionally don't do well in theaters.
02:41:51
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But they try. They keep trying. And this is what's sad about that. It's why I wanted to go see it in theaters because I wanted to kind of make it work. We could go see it. Let me check F1. I was just checking F1 the movie. How did Naked Gun do? That's the question I have.
02:42:06
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did $598 million though. That's pretty awesome. How much did though?
02:42:11
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how much did it cost though It seems like a costly flick. I wish box Box Office Mojo had that info. i don't Maybe it does. I just never see it. I don't know where that's supposed to be. um But how did Naked Gun do?
02:42:24
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film Are you looking up Naked Gun? Or no? Yeah. ah but For the box office? Yeah. i don't know. This is from Screen Rant. I never trust Screen Rant.
02:42:37
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Oh, this is Box Office Mojo. They usually nail it. Box Office Mojo. Naked Gun. I got it, actually. Sorry. $78 million.
02:42:48
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Yeah, that's what it says, $78 million. But the budget on that is apparently $42 million. So if they get to $100, potentially it was worth it? I don't know.
02:43:01
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Now I'm actually really curious. What is F1's budget reportedly? Because you can never really know. studios don't really tell you. F1, the movie budget.
02:43:12
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F1, the movie. It's such a stupid. just wish it wasn't called that. But it did well, despite the the dumb name. So there's that aspect. F1, the movie, not box office.
02:43:22
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Oh, it auto-corrected. Come on. F1 movies budget is widely reported to be between 200 to 300 million. So maybe they just broke even actually.
02:43:34
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That's a lot of money. yeah Damn. I wonder much of that was licensing to F1 from like from F1. Yeah. I don't know. It's interesting.
02:43:45
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But yeah, I don't know. Weapons? Very good. It's hard to talk about. Yeah, you can't. Dude, you straight up can't. That's the issue. is um I think even Zachary Craig released like a video being like, just don't talk about it.
02:43:57
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um Yeah. so It was just ruining highly recommend it. Go watch it. Yeah. It's definitely worth seeing. and if you haven't seen a Barbarian, go see that too. I kind of love Barbarian. Yeah. i like deep Do you like Barbarian more than this? Or do you like Weapons don't know i don't know when we when we see barbarian did that come out 2021 something like that 2022 maybe it was post i feel like covid was still a thing but it wasn't really like the height of covid anymore yeah i think like 2022 i think is right or it's funny so this movie i like on letterboxd my score is four i'm pretty sure out of five on barbarian i rated weapons the same yeah
02:44:38
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So I'm like, it's four to five for me. So i I don't know. um i think about it. I think there's a there's there's a disjointed aspect of Barbarian like in the center, but I didn't like maybe as much. And I found the final twist to be not as interesting. So I think i think app weapons is is the one I would go with.
02:44:57
Speaker
Interesting. I feel like he's refined it even more, the way he, again, does red herrings in his final twist. I think it's more interesting. um Do you think they'll do a sequel to this movie? do you think they'll try to do something like a prequel or a sequel to this?
02:45:11
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you think it's going to do well enough that it will... They could. i don't i don't know if I necessarily want that. like I kind of like it being a little bit more self-contained. It would be cool if you was kind of creating like a wider universe of his horror movies, but you can't really do that because Barbarian was... Was it Fox or some shit? I don't remember.
02:45:31
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Two different like movie companies. So, I don't know. I think... Weapons is definitely a more fun movie than Barbarian.
02:45:41
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But I like it. Yeah, I don't know. I think I like Barbarian more than this personally, personally, but I did really like both of them. I loved it. And I yeah kind of agree with you. i'd probably say four out of five for weapons as well.
02:45:54
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Barbarian, I would maybe do four on five out of five. Oh, wow. Hi. Budget of weapons apparently is $38 million. The box office $180 million. So he destroyed. He did really well.
02:46:06
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But again, when you have that low of a budget, you can do some magical things for the for the studio who funded you. That's not
Julia Garner & Jordan Peele Projects
02:46:14
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Jordan Peele's.
02:46:16
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Apparently. So sad for her Mr. Jordan Peele. What's Jordan Peele making? He's producing that like him movie, but ah like again, he's not released. What is he directing?
02:46:28
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ah Jordan P. I haven't looked into that in a while. It's been a while since Nope, right? 2022? Something like that. He has an untitled horror movie set for release next year.
02:46:40
Speaker
Next year? oh cool. Yeah, Nope. If I remember correctly, wasn't announced until like quite close to the date. Yeah, the advertising for Note was really cool, too. I remember like when they were doing the ads for it.
02:46:52
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I liked Note quite a bit. I don't ah do, yeah, too. I don't love it, but I liked it. Not of Planet Earth?
02:47:03
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Oh, yeah. That's what it stood for, didn't Yeah, it's cool. Yeah.
02:47:11
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Yeah. Yeah. That him movie that he's producing looks kind of cool. I know he's not directing it, but again, he's putting his name behind it. And I feel like at least putting his name behind it means something.
02:47:24
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little bit. What was the last one he did that was really, he put his, he produced that was really good. Candyman. Wasn't it? Yeah, was really good. And he did put his name behind that. I don't know that the last one, but it was really good.
02:47:35
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That's for sure. Also, got to say, because I feel like we through Shaded her earlier, i thought that Julia Garner was amazing in this. And I think she's usually really great.
02:47:46
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And so I just want to say that because she's in, she's actually in a lot of movies. This could be the year of Julia Garner as well, because she's actually in three huge, well, one that wasn't that good, but but yeah two pretty huge films.
02:47:58
Speaker
Another horror film in The Wolfman. And I think that like she was pretty great in Fantastic Four First Steps from my perspective. And I think that she was pretty great in this too. So yeah.
02:48:10
Speaker
So good for Julia. The last movie that Jordan Peele put his name on was Monkey Man with Dev Patel. I thought it was, but I thought it was confusing because his name, isn't it Monkey Paw Productions? So I'm like, that can't be that because that's too on the nose.
02:48:24
Speaker
But no, it is. I thought it was. That wasn't as good though as Candy Man. Do you watch Monkey Man? I never watched it. Monkey Man. Oh, I'm sorry. Monkey Man. I'm confusing it with the monkey guy. Yeah. your thing You're thinking the- It's also Monkey Man. No, I'm so sorry. Monkey Man's amazing.
02:48:41
Speaker
Dev Patel? So good. That was- Yeah, I really liked it. I think that was his directorial debut for Dev Patel, right? Very good. Yeah, I really liked it a lot. got watch that movie. That
Upcoming Releases & Expectations
02:48:51
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was a four for me too, if I recall correctly.
02:48:53
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I really did like it. It was good. I like a really cool vibe to it. There was like that element. We talked about how we like this in things where they do like a red light thing. And that film from my remembering has like a lot of that red light. Like he they shine this like red ambient light on characters while he's like doing fight scenes. I just love that anyway. But the overall movie is quite enjoyable. And that the choreography for fight choreography is really good. And Dev Patel did a solid job.
02:49:23
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was really good. I like it. Yeah. Anyway, okay. We should move on now, yes? Cool. Yeah, let's do it. Okay, cool. I just got to switch back to my document real quick. All right. Now onto a segment of our show that I like to call A Look to the Future.
02:49:39
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portion of our podcast where each of us present at least three of our picks for the t for the TV series or movies that look most interesting to us that are releasing between the dates of August 16th and September 8th.
02:49:51
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Sorry. Wait, that can't be right. Is that right? August 16th. No, dude. August 25th. How did I write that in there? August 16th.
02:50:04
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We're going back in time. August 25th and September 8th, 2025.
02:50:11
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Adrian, as his customer, you go first. What is your first pick? The first thing that I'm going to bring up is the movie that I feel like I was was supposed to be released like eight years ago and then...
02:50:22
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ah now is finally getting released. It's the Toxic Avenger movie coming out on August 29th. I feel like this movie, again, was filmed like many years ago. I remember the first trailer coming out like a couple years ago.
02:50:35
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on This seems like a fun time. I'm curious. Like, the tone seems very wacky, and it looks to be like a very dark, like, ultra-gory movie starring Peter Dinklage as the Toxic of and Avenger.
02:50:49
Speaker
He's just killing people. He's like a weird-looking... tarmon like like goo monster man with a wand yeah that's interesting i hope it's good in some way that were my i think i said this when we watched the trailer in one of the movies we watched i felt like it was kind of like a james an old james gunn movie some way and the way that it's like comedy it's a comedy horror slash superhero film.
02:51:18
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So yeah, I'm curious to see how it will do, but it it doesn't bode well, well that it didn't release for many years. It was like a festival film though. And I think like it was shown off at festivals and i think people liked it at the festivals. Like, aren't there reviews for it? Am I crazy?
02:51:36
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Yeah. Toxic Avenger.
02:51:40
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It's 89 on Rotten Tomatoes with 27 reviews. So it's reviewed okay relatively well. but Right. Okay. Okay. My first pick in this for this bi-week is Caught Stealing. It's on my list as Which we've seen the trailer quite a few times.
02:52:05
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At least thrice. At least thrice. um But it stars Austin Butler and... Zoe Kravitz is directed by, I'm forgetting his name now, Black Swan director.
02:52:17
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um um my God. Oh, dude. Yeah. um Oh my God. Is it Alfonso Curon? No, I'm mixing that guy No, no. What is Alfonso Curon doing? That's actually a good question too. He must be making something cool.
02:52:34
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Darren Aronofsky. Yeah, that guy. But yeah, this one looks pretty good. Are you interested in this at all? Um, yeah, like enough. I like I would prefer to watch Toxic Avenger over this.
02:52:48
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And I still got we still got to watch Nobody 2, which I really want to watch. um So I don't know if I'll get around to this. movie it It looks good, though. It looks good. and I'm not against it.
02:52:59
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um Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't really. I haven't really seen much with Austin Butler, if anything. So, well, we watched Eddington. He was in Eddington. But that's really. Yeah. So Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
02:53:12
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I don't remember him in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but I believe you. I believe you. Yeah, he's like the main... He's in it more than Manson. I'm pretty sure.
02:53:24
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and dr um But yeah. Yeah, okay, cool. What's your next pick, sir? My next pick is a Netflix movie called The Thursday Murder Club.
02:53:36
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That's coming out on August 28th. yeah Yeah, this one seems kind of fun. Like, i don't know. i haven't seen much about it. It just seems like it would be a good time. um
02:53:49
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Yeah, again, I don't know much about it. I like kind of like murder mystery movies. um I'm definitely intrigued is my point. Yes. And it it it stars. What's his name?
02:54:00
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Chris Brosnan. Yeah. And Ben Kingsley. Yeah. but And Helen Mirren. Yeah. Yes. It's a good cast. It's good It is a really good combo of of people in it.
02:54:14
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Yeah, it's like ah it's ah it's a retirement home, and therere they're basically – they have a club in which they they they try to solve murders for cold cases. That's the premise.
02:54:25
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It's a movie though, right? It's not a TV show. From what I understand, it is. Okay, cool. you're going to tell me otherwise. No, no, it is a movie. I was pretty confident – I was pretty confident it was just a movie. Yeah. I saw Pierce Brosnan in an interview with, i think, Seth Meyers.
02:54:39
Speaker
And he was, they were asked, he was asking about it. It's a cool, it's a cool cast. And it's a really stacked cast, theoretically. And it's cool to see, like, don't there's something about that. Like, people of a certain age, you know, and they're kind of like, it'd be cool if like, that would be what Inside, Inside Man or whatever it's called with Ted Danson becomes, you know, they, they all team up and they all try to solve a murder or something like that in the next season.
02:55:03
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Yeah. what's it called? Inside man on the inside. Yeah. It could be like retirement i retire even but retirees on the inside, you know? Yeah.
02:55:15
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Yeah. Cool. Okay. Next movie I'm going to pick an August 29th release again, just like caught stealing the roses. Adrian, we've seen this trailer a hundred times now. Uh, stars Olivia Coleman, been in a Cumberbatch, uh, Kate McKinnon and Andy Samberg. And, uh, I don't know what to make of it.
02:55:31
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uh,
02:55:33
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I don't know. I don't know what to make of it because I see the trailers a lot, but it, it see, it seems really dark in some aspects. There's also very funny, but it also feels like the the whole thing was shown to us in the trailer. So I'm like, is there anything to, to, to, is there anything that didn't show us?
02:55:51
Speaker
Yeah. I'm not quite sure. So yeah, anyway, I don't know. What do you think? do you want to see this? I'm interested. Yeah. Cause it's only in theaters. This is one of those ones that they're trying to push as a comedy in theaters too.
02:56:04
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Yeah. Which is pretty neat. Cause it's like, obviously it's comedy, British marriage marriage story.
02:56:11
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Yeah. Yeah, that's right. But it's not British. We talked about this. It's taking place in the United States, I'm pretty Yeah, but it's British in the sense Olivia Colman and Benedict Cumberbatch are British. For some reason, they're in America, and they're they're married in America for some reason, and they're having marital problems in there. Yeah. Yeah.
02:56:30
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Right. There's a crab in a bathtub. there's a There's a... Right. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. there's Yeah. There's people.
02:56:41
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There's people in the movie. There sure are. There's definitely some people in the movie. Cool. The other thing that I have on my list, Simon, is Wednesday season two, part two. It's coming out September 3rd. don't really care about this.
02:56:55
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It's just the one other thing I had on my list. Okay. I never watched the first. I never watched the first season. um Are you going to? No. Is that?
02:57:05
Speaker
Okay. You don't plan to. um I don't really care. Yeah. Yeah. I heard it's good, but I don't know. like I liked The Addams Family when I was hearing it. It's like Harry Potter. Did I tell you that or no? Did I make that reference before? I don't know.
02:57:18
Speaker
It's Harry Potter, but with quirky people instead of instead of magic people. yeah That's what it is. That's the premise of the show. It really is. Except it's Addams Family-esque and Tim Burton-esque. And I like Tim Burton's filmmaking style.
02:57:31
Speaker
It's very quirky and and fun. So that's cool. And there's a... like Yeah, it's cool. I like the cast. it's It's neat. And there's, I don't know, there's something about that.
02:57:42
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I don't know. It's almost like a coming of age story. Like Harry Potter is, I guess. it's like ah It's like a school for gifted children in a strange way. But a gifted, gifted, yeah i was going to say emo children, but it's not really the case because she's just the only one like that. But there's like a bunch of people with like weird abilities.
02:58:02
Speaker
Her ability is being a weirdo. In a strange way. Oh, it's cool. Jenna Ortega does a good job in this though. I feel like she was like, she really nails it. And and that that dance was like a meme for a while.
02:58:16
Speaker
Yeah, i know. I felt bad for her. Why? Because I feel like every interview after that show came out, they were like, dance, monkey, dance. like Did they do that? Yeah, man. I didn't notice that. She was just ah so over it.
02:58:29
Speaker
Again, I didn't ever watch the show. That was like the scene that was going around. And I feel like that was like the scene that convinced my fiance that she's like, I don't want to watch this. This just
Nostalgia & Animation Excitement
02:58:37
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seems too cringy. Really? and I was like, yeah. that that's free i feel like that's the least cringy thing.
02:58:42
Speaker
What's cringy about the dance? Oh my God, that's the least cringy thing. You're telling me that it's even more cringy than that? than God, I'm definitely not watching that shit. What's cringy about that story? Explain it to me. It just looks uncomfortable.
02:58:52
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You know, when you look at something and you're like, that looks cringy.
02:58:56
Speaker
You know that feeling? Are you defining the word cringy with the definition is cringy? Is that what you're doing right now? That is exactly what I'm telling you. All right. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't find it cringy.
02:59:07
Speaker
I didn't find it cringy. Anyway, it's Tim Burton. It's just Tim Burton-esque, but it's a coming-of-age story that's like Harry Potter. That's the best way I would describe it. It's reviewed well, right? Like, cringes don't dislike it. assume so.
02:59:19
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I, like, saw, like, online, like, again, there's always, like, the people complaining, like, Nate doesn't... they're not following the source material. they They don't understand the source material. I'm like, motherfucker. Nobody cares that much about the Adams.
02:59:33
Speaker
and Like nobody did I like the, I don't know. think you ask, uh, I think you ask Mr. Mr. Kenneth Saddlebauer and I think he disagree. Ken, let me know if you think the, the source material isn't being appreciated as much in the show.
02:59:49
Speaker
You let me know if you've watched the show. That's what I asked him. yeah Love you, Ken. I hope you're doing well, man. I haven't talked to you since ah Fantastic Four. I should message you. Ken, I'm talking to you right now. This this this message goes out to you.
03:00:03
Speaker
I love you. Do you think he still watches our podcast? I feel like he doesn't. I don't know, dude. and Ask him. and that And that means zero people are watching it. Maybe you watch it. i don't know if you you watch it, Adrian. but i got I have so many more picks.
03:00:21
Speaker
Spit them out, dude, because I kind of out. It's kind insane, actually. i didn't actually realize. Rapid fire. But I have way more picks than I thought I did. ah The first is one we just talked about, so I'm surprised it wasn't your at your pick instead of what Wednesday, which you don't even won't even watch.
03:00:36
Speaker
You might watch this. It's a little show called The Paper, which comes out on September 4th. Oh, shit. I forgot about that. I literally did talk about that. that comes out to Peacock. I don't know where the hell that will be Canada, to be honest. I don't know.
03:00:50
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No idea. The paper Canada. There's also, ah pretty sure this is popular for a lot of people. I think it is. This would look good. I thought I saw a trailer. Maybe I'm wrong.
03:01:02
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Are you familiar with Pokemon Concierge? Yeah. Is that coming out? That's coming out on September 4th on Netflix, apparently. no way, dude. I had no idea. Dude, Pokemon Concierge, so cute and so wholesome, dude. I love that show.
03:01:16
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There you go You're welcome. brilliant, dude. Pokemon Concierge. It's like a stop motion animation. Let's make sure. Let's make sure. Pokemon Concierge. Let's get two sources. Concierge. Scheduled release September 4th, 2025, according to Wikipedia. Excellent. There you go. There you go. Wow, that's so exciting, dude.
03:01:32
Speaker
It's so cute. Genuinely so cute. It's about like this young woman that kind of gets a job at this like... Pokemon ah resort where she goes there and there's people working there and they take care of people's Pokemon.
03:01:47
Speaker
And then she kind of like develops like there's a there's a side deck there that's kind of like weird and doesn't get along with anyone. He's kind of sad. Have you seen this? Is this like Is it it... This is a new season? sorry Yeah, it's season two a Pokemon Concierge. Oh, okay. That makes sense. So you watched season one already on Netflix. Yep.
03:02:06
Speaker
I loved it, That's cool. It's so cozy and adorable. And i don't know, like as someone that grew up playing Pokemon a lot you know as ah as ah as a young'un, it's cool to see.
03:02:17
Speaker
And it's very, very adorable. I loved it. It's so cozy. It's so heartfelt and funny. The stop-motion animation is... amazing It's cool because like once the show like when when they finish the first season, they kind of show like a little behind the scenes of how they did it all.
03:02:33
Speaker
It's so impressive. um It's short and sweet. Like, I think I don't know, it's like four or five episodes and each were only like 15 minutes or something. Oh, it's a very brisk watch.
03:02:46
Speaker
Definitely worth watching. Are you a Pokemon show fan? I don't know if I know that about you. like In general, like this is not a traditional Pokemon show and by any stretch the imagination, but are you like a fan of like the traditional Pokemon TV shows on...
03:02:57
Speaker
um not ah like Not as an adult, but I loved the Pokemon. Back in the day, and I should say. yeah like Did you watch it alongside like Dragon Ball Z and all that stuff? Oh, yeah, dude. that The Pokemon movies, dude.
03:03:08
Speaker
The first Pokemon movie. Sublime, man. good. Did you ever watch Digimon? Of course I did. Dude, I love Digimon. I was more of a Digimon guy than a Pokemon guy. Me too. I watched Digimon more than I did Pokemon. I actually watched Dragon Ball little bit. Digimon.
03:03:23
Speaker
Digimon. Yeah, it's clearly a rip-off. Digital monsters, Digimon are the champions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. Change into... Wow.
03:03:35
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I don't know the lyrics except for the first part. Oh, you don't? the first part. You just recited. Okay, I got another one. you ready? Yeah. I got...
Spike Lee & Film Accuracy
03:03:45
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It's the Five Bloods and Black K Klansman director, Spike Lee.
03:03:50
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He's got the next movie coming out with Denzel Washington, Highest to Lewist. about It seems to be about the music industry, but Denzel Washington is like a big, I think a music producer or is it artist and his son gets kidnapped and he's got to negotiate with this guy.
03:04:05
Speaker
um But it's got Jeffrey Wright in it. It's got Denzel Washington. It's got A$AP Rocky in it. Just kind of neat. He's an artist and it's a movie about the music industry. Rihanna's husband.
03:04:18
Speaker
Yes. is that Is that her husband? wasn't I don't know if they're married, but definitely the baby daddy of her children. Oh, okay. She has like three kids. That's cool. Oh, sorry. I didn't set a date, did I? That's September 5th.
03:04:31
Speaker
No. Are doing good? Yeah. that stuff you know it's great You know what's great, Simon, about Google AI? What? That one I put in in the paper show, Where to Watch Canada. It says, the series, the paper, will be available on Peacock in Canada.
03:04:45
Speaker
Yeah, of course it does. Fucking Peacock in Canada, bro. Then I saw somewhere on justwatch.com, it says, currently you are able to watch the paper streaming on Stack TV, Amazon channel. there It's not even out yet.
03:05:00
Speaker
So I think, if anything, it's going to be... It's on Stack TV. New series streaming September 4th. That sucks. I'm not even going to watch it. Doesn't that feel like a missed opportunity for Netflix, though? 100%. Wait, are we sure it's not on Disney Plus? And I'm asking that question because Disney Plus just got the licensing agreement for The Office.
03:05:20
Speaker
I don't know. In Canada. And I'm not sure that's the same in the States. it that would be That would be very poetic and smart of them to do that. ah Yeah, i don't know, man. It would be... well Did they ever know get anything, though, from Peacock?
03:05:35
Speaker
Have they ever done that before? I have no idea. Maybe Paramount Plus got Twisted Metal. um City TV in Canada got fucking... the that show that ryan johnson show that we both want to watch oh poker face yeah poker face yeah that sucks that's on there i don't fucking know dude but that's just because it's on city tv like rogers got the licensing yeah so it was just on city tv the channel so then they just got isn't poker face in two places i thought i saw it is i forget where yeah it might be on stack too god fuck stack
03:06:08
Speaker
Do I have stack now? Because I technically... Oh, I forgot to say that. I've been watching the Based on True Story show. I don't necessarily recommend it. I got to tell you. It's reviewed very well. the The show about the podcast about the serial killer.
03:06:21
Speaker
There is something really weird and awful about it. Like it's not... The story isn't told...
03:06:27
Speaker
In a normal way. And the characters make such stupid decisions. I'm not sure it's the greatest. But it does have... um What's her name from Brooklyn Nine-Nine in it? Who I really like, actually. And she's not in that much. She's like the... She's like the really smart cop.
03:06:39
Speaker
which team Amy Santiago. That's the character's name. I don't know the actress. That's the character's name. I forgot her name. Damn it. I just saw her name just a second ago. I'm a fool.
03:06:51
Speaker
It is Melissa Famaro. Melissa Formaro. Yeah. Anyway. So yeah, she's cool. So she's it. Stack TV is $15 a month. Yeah. I got it for $3. Cause they had a promo. That's how I'm doing it. That's why I did it. Christ. There's like three 95 or something like that. So $4. It's not bad. um Okay. So the last one I think is the last one that I'm going to pick here.
Crime Drama & TV Series Introductions
03:07:15
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for the five picks instead of the three I have. um Yeah, any interest in highest to lowest, by the way? I don't know if you have any interest. like I really like Black K Klansman. I thought it was great, personally.
03:07:27
Speaker
Yeah, I like Black K Klansman. Yeah. I don't know if I'm necessarily interested highest to lows. I don't really know much about it. I haven't seen a trailer or anything. I just see the trailers.
03:07:38
Speaker
I'm always watching Apple TV plus. So that's kind of why they always, they always hit me with their stuff. There's an Apple TV show movie. Sorry. Oh, it's a show. Oh, okay. Yeah. Sorry. Movie, movie. um Okay, another one. and then I think this is the last one i'm going to pick here. Oh, sorry. I got two. Oh my God. There's a lot coming out. It makes sense. It's fall. Fall is when all the shows start in traditional TV as well. But anyway, September 7th, I got Task, Adrian. Did you see the trailer for this?
03:08:06
Speaker
No, I don't know what this is. Okay. This one's really interesting, in my opinion. This is from the the ah the creator of... um It's Brad Inglesby, the creator of Mirror of Easttown. Oh, yeah. ah kate with with With Kate Winslet.
03:08:21
Speaker
and's so It's another crime drama. It's following an FBI task force. and The guy in charge of the fbi FBI task force is played by Mark Ruffalo. He's playing this grizzled cop. He's got these like amateurs like trying to do the the task forcing. and They're trying to catch this... like raw like armed robbery gang ah who's led by Tom Pelfrey's character who i really think is great I think Tom Pelfrey in Ozark is like one of the best actors in Ozark as a whole um other than Julia Garner, actually, who we just talked about.
03:08:53
Speaker
I think Tom Palfrey just kills it. in ah like like his His whole performance and everything about that, his character is heart-wrenching in Ozark. And so to see something with him in it in like ah like a dark role like this, pretty interesting. So I'm curious to see how it gets reviewed. And it's HBO, if I didn't say that already.
03:09:09
Speaker
So it's going to be on HBO Max and I guess in crit on Craven Canada. i don't know you have any interest in this, but I would recommend watching the trailer because the trailer kind of gives you a good rundown of the Of the show.
03:09:19
Speaker
That was a big one. I wrote that down, actually. This one I wrote down like a few months ago. I'm like, task. Remember what task? I talk about it on the the show. But I never watched Mirror of Easttown, which I intended to do, and I just never did. Did you?
03:09:32
Speaker
Same. I'm in the same boat as you. I remember it coming out. It got a bunch of Emmy nominations. I'm like, this looks really good. I want to watch it. And then just never got around to it. So it's cool. Yeah. It looks like a drama with a capital D. Like it's, ah it's like dark, I think, but yeah, it looks cool.
03:09:48
Speaker
Uh, task does. And so does Mary Mary of Easton. Um, this is another one. I don't, I just got it. It has to be accurate. Uh, September 7th, the walking dead, Daryl Dixon. Did you ever watch the Daryl Dixon spinoff show?
03:10:00
Speaker
I think this is the final season. I think they decided that they're not doing any more seasons of Daryl. Daryl. Oh, really? i think they said that. Yeah. They've got car Carol came back, right? Yes. Last season. The book of Carol.
03:10:12
Speaker
Is that what they called it? I think so. Yeah. Daryl Dixon. season I think it's season three. I think this is a... It is, yeah. How many of the Walking Dead shows are still running, Adrian?
03:10:23
Speaker
Do you know? I don't know. um This one and then the Jeffrey Gene Jorgen and Maggie one. Right. Jeffrey Gene Jorgen.
03:10:34
Speaker
Classic. Walking Dead City. Right. That one, the New York. The New York one. But what about the one with... Andrew Lincoln isn't that one still going?
03:10:45
Speaker
I thought that was a one and done. I could be wrong. i watched the first episode. I was like, wow, this is really good. I'm stoked. And then I just never watched it. I don't know. Oh, really? i watch you when i was Yeah.
03:10:58
Speaker
First episode was stellar. I remember finishing. I'm like, damn, fuck, this is good. I can't wait to continue watching this. And then I just never watched it. have no idea why. Okay.
03:11:09
Speaker
Probably because it was on AMC Plus and I ran, it maybe I ran out of my AMC Plus subscription. i was like, I'm not going to fucking subscribe right I probably haven't said this ah in a while, but I started watching The Walking Dead again and then my Netflix expired. So I'm kind of in the same boat as you with The Walking Dead because I started to watch it again.
03:11:26
Speaker
and I'm like, yeah, I like the show. It's fun. I got to like a pretty climactic moment in the story and it seemed like it was like the, I think it actually might've been the mid-season finale. And then I stopped watching because Netflix expired. But I was i was like, i was planning on playing Dying Light 2 again to like get the synergy of like zombies with zombies.
03:11:44
Speaker
But I had the synergy a little bit because I was watching The Walking Dead season 11 while I was playing Death Stranding 2. So I had like a Norman Reedus fix. And think simultaneously – no. That was just before.
03:11:58
Speaker
i was going to say I saw Norman Reedus The Bell Arena, but that was just before – that was before Death Stranding by a month or two. So anyway. Yeah. It looks like – um The Walking to Daryl Dixon, just to correct you, it's renewed for a fourth and final season. So season three is coming out and they have the fourth and final season.
03:12:16
Speaker
Good for them, though. So must be getting enough numbers that they would renew it. Well, maybe not. Maybe that's actually why they're ending it. Is it all over, do you think, for The Walking Dead? Is like is it just going to sizzle still line that and ah out into the sunset? you know I don't know.
03:12:33
Speaker
I don't know how popular that Dead City show is because they have two seasons of that. Apparently, the second season aired in June. Right. Right. Dude, there was the Walking Dead World Beyond. I forgot that was a show.
03:12:47
Speaker
That was never watched it. We made fun of that, didn't we? Yeah. Yeah. Huh. OK, I think that's all I got for you of the big stuff that I'm excited for or semi excited for. If you got anything else for me, anything else?
03:13:05
Speaker
No. You know what? No. There's that one movie I saw the trailer for that like seems like a wacky like drama comedy.
03:13:16
Speaker
Like a romance comedy. The Threesome. Did you see the trailer for that? No. With Zoe Deutsch. That looks pretty wacky. I don't know how I saw that trailer. I saw that like a few weeks ago.
03:13:27
Speaker
But that looks like like just like a crazy... That's cool though because again, another comedy. um Going to theaters. So they're trying. They're trying to do it. If we go to the movies in the next little bit, I know you're pretty busy lately, but like if you were to go to the movies the next little bit, what would you prefer to see?
03:13:46
Speaker
Would you go watch The Naked Gun? Or would you go see... um What was the other one we were just talking about? Sorry. Nobody 2 is probably the priority, would say. Okay. Sounds good.
03:13:59
Speaker
I really like that first one. Yeah. I love Bo Bo Odenkirk, so I'm good to do a little... Celebration of Bob Odenkirk. Yeah. But yeah.
03:14:10
Speaker
Oh, you know what? Another movie that's coming out yeah that I didn't mention.
Gaming Glitches & Experiences
03:14:15
Speaker
Yep. Oh, I guess it's already out. Wait, I thought this was coming out on the 29th. What's this? It's the movie Relay starring Riz Ahmed and Lily James.
03:14:25
Speaker
Oh, is it out? Yeah. I swear to God it was releasing on the 29th, but apparently it's already out. I just checked the Cineplex app. Oh, that one.
03:14:37
Speaker
What's wait, what's relay? It's like a bribe broker facilitates deals between corrupt companies and their threats. He breaks his own rules when a client needs protection, complicating his usual operations.
03:14:50
Speaker
Oh, I saw like the I think I saw it like. Yes, 76% that the one. Yeah. Audience score is 92 popcorn meter, whatever the fuck you call it. Okay.
03:15:04
Speaker
I thought this coming out on the... It shows release date September 8th, 2024. But obviously that wasn't the case for us. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.
03:15:16
Speaker
Okay. Anyway, that's it. Okay. All right, man. Anything else you want to say before we wrap this guy up? Episode 117. Oh, yeah. I don't know if we talked about this on air. I don't think we did. but What's up? make me I don't know. Whatever. Who cares?
03:15:32
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um You know, I talked about how the library, you can like get games from the library, and it's free. right And you know, I told you, was like, I'm going to try that Pacific Drive game. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. And then you were like, you think you're going to like that? i was like, I don't know. That's why I want to get it for free. I don't want to buy it.
03:15:47
Speaker
Right. I don't like it. I played it for an hour. yeah um And one of the, I was like, i'm ah you know, this is not my type of game, but I kind of want to keep playing it.
03:15:58
Speaker
And you know what happened, Simon? An hour in, The game doesn't save, mind you. there There was no save point. I was an hour in. And literally, I'm just like, I'm doing what it's telling me. And I guess I picked up an item out of order that I'm supposed to do in this like tutorial section.
03:16:16
Speaker
And it literally bricks the game where like you can't move. You're stuck. What? And I Google it. And this is an issue from when the game released in fucking the beginning of last year in 2024. And they were like, the only fix is just restart your game. It's like, it's fine. You're early on.
03:16:31
Speaker
It's like, i just played this for a fucking hour. No. So I literally just like, thank God, no trophy popped because I was like, that would drive me fucking insane.
03:16:41
Speaker
yeah yeah I hate when that happens those percentages would be all over the place yeah it's crazy man it literally annoyed the shit out of me so i like I literally like I'm taking this out of my fucking console I'm gonna bring this back to the freaking library ah snap it in half and then put it back in the tray nah I wouldn't but it was like that when I got it i put it in my i I put it in my console and and the game bricked while I was playing it I don't know yeah I didn't notice it was cracked It's crazy though.
03:17:12
Speaker
Like this is a known issue from over a year and a half ago when the game released and you didn't fix it. It is an indie developer, but yeah. I don't give shit. I don't give a shit. it's a year and a half and you're selling this fucking game still. I know I got it for free, but like there's no, there's no warning.
03:17:26
Speaker
You can't just fucking put a warning. You can't fix it. yeah it's weird genuinely pissed me off because i was like i'm playing boulders gate 3 right and i'm like i'm getting to the 100 hour mark i'm getting tired like i like i'm excited for it to wrap up but i feel like this game is never ending because there's just so much to do so many storylines that i'm like figuring out great game but like i'm i'm reaching my limit with it like i'm like i i kind of wanted to wrap this up so i was like you know what i can i can fit in this little like this other game to kind of break it apart.
03:17:56
Speaker
And then I like yeah put it in and immediately fucked up and I was like, nevermind. So i don't know. i'm going to play that Indica game, which is on PS plus right now. I also want to play that sword of the sea game really bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you like the other games from the sort of the sea guys? with with What's the name of them? There's the journey. That's a journey developer. I only played journey.
03:18:15
Speaker
And then there was a lot, the one they did at the beginning of the PS5 generation. The Pathless. The Pathless, yeah. Never played it. yeah I wanted to. It's been on sale a few times for like $16. Isn't that on PS Plus as well, like extra? No. thought you had Never was. okay Which is a shame.
03:18:29
Speaker
feel like that's a good one for PlayStation Plus Essential to give out. I know. I'm surprised that it hasn't been. Especially now, because they have the new game coming You'd think they'd want to like, because they're kind of similar. like there's They're in motion.
03:18:41
Speaker
Yeah. They're very flowy games. They just kind of... except that this one has like, or that one had ah the pathless had a bow and arrow element to it, which I think the, the see it sort of the C is like, you're riding a sword, like a surfboard.
03:18:54
Speaker
Yeah. i don't think there's any combat. I think it's just like point A to point B, like move around, enjoy the ride. And that's kind of why I want to play it. So
Game Adaptations & Silent Protagonists
03:19:02
Speaker
yeah. Relaxing maybe. Yeah. Frustrating when a game just like messes up. It's crazy. It's too bad though. Cause I wonder what you would have, if you would have liked it, if you got past that part, part if you were in the tutorial, that's weird.
03:19:13
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. I was intrigued. You'll never know. Yeah. Yeah. Like I was genuinely intrigued. I was like, okay, I like, I'm curious where this is going again. It's like kind of survival. Like you pick up materials and you build the stuff and not typically a genre. I enjoy, but i was like, you know, and I want to, I want to try it. And then it just, you're building your car and the apocalypse is like this weird but apocalypse where there's constantly thunderstorms or something.
03:19:34
Speaker
Right. It's like you get a nuclear winter. that teleported into it? ah So there's like a like a kind of like in Superman where it tells you like in 1978, you know, there was a place in United States where weird shit is happening. And then like you go there and you in your car get teleported into another dimension.
03:19:53
Speaker
um and there's a weird anomalies going on. And I was like, oh, cool. I'm curious. Like, what's this mystery? I'm sure I'll figure this out. Yeah. and there's like people talking to you on the radio. They're like, how the hell do you get here, man? Like we haven't had, you know, someone into this dimension in many years.
03:20:07
Speaker
Like, okay, cool. I'm i'm intrigued. And then I was like, I was in, you get to this first garage and I was like, fall in the tutorial and grab this one thing out of the mailbox i was like okay i'm in the mailbox i grabbed the one thing there's six other items in there i'm gonna grab the six other items but no if you grab the one item before the game tells you in the tutorial it just it stops yeah i was like i'm gonna lose it i'm gonna lose it it's pretty dumb yeah did you see this i just sent you a link in the in the chat here
03:20:38
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and We might have talked about this, but I just wanted to point this out. Because it's completely relevant to what we're talking about. James Wan is making a survival – is making a a tv show based on Pacific Drive, the movie you just described.
03:20:52
Speaker
Interesting. I'll watch the show. Yeah, sounds good. But this is another one of those things from my, well, how much of a story is there? Like, that's why I'm curious. It felt to me like this could be like a Far Cry situation. Like how much is there to really, it it looks like this is it almost, you can kind of graft your own story to it.
03:21:12
Speaker
Similar to like a Fallout or to a Far Cry and that you can kind of make up your own. adventures in this world. I feel like that's maybe why they wanted to do that. But I don't know. I didn't like the only reason I didn't play Pacific Drive because I was intent. like I kind of like the look of it in a way like this idea of like building out your car and then driving across this post apocalyptic type world.
03:21:31
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Is it I found I don't like tones like that where it's just the really dark. I kind of like this like like Fallout is like that, but then fall, it's really goofy.
03:21:42
Speaker
And I like the goofy retro futurism aspect of it, like of the old fifty s music. And like there's something like strangely over awry in that mot like that kind of universe. like It's like ah as if as if our our universe is split off at a certain point.
03:21:57
Speaker
um And so I really like the goofiness of Fallout. It's kind of funny. It's almost a comedy in a weird way. But the Pacific Drive just looks really dire. I don't know if you haven't had any experience with anything happy but in it. But it just felt really like really like a downer a little bit. It's like Fallout without the happiness, but that's say without any kind of like severe doom and gloom, from my perspective anyway. Yeah.
03:22:17
Speaker
Again, I was early in it, but there were other characters talking to you, and they seemed add a little bit levity. Are there like you're actually like human beings you can see, are they just talking to through like- I seen them. They're talking you through radio. All over the walkie. Yeah, okay.
03:22:30
Speaker
That's what I thought. yeah Who the hell is this guy? How did this guy get here? Right. and He's like come on on, Skeeter. It's fine. Is that a line? in the No. Your name is Skeeter?
03:22:42
Speaker
Okay. Okay. The protagonist is silent. Yeah, yeah're okay, right. Yeah, your your own personality kind of... I kind of like that games. Sometimes that don't like it as much as I would... It's him, Miss.
03:22:56
Speaker
I like how V talks in Cyberpunk, even though they're trying to immerse you completely. yeah like Games like Bethesda games like typically don't give you a voice because they want you to be the voice of the character, so you get to choose the dialogue choices. But when you play V in Cyberpunk, you're still playing as V and you feel incredibly immersed, but you still...
03:23:14
Speaker
you You have a pretty great voice acting. You're a character versus like – Yeah. You are, but you make choices that make different – they literally change the story like very fundamentally. Yeah. And you are very inside that because it's a first-person view. So you are really that character and in every way. There's no third-person view at all except for driving a motorcycle and a car. But – um Anyway, my point was, is that when you have games like that, and like what's a good another good example other than Bethesda games? But Starfield does that too. Like where you just, you're a first person, you're this character, you get decide what they say and there's there's no voice because people got really upset when Fallout 4 had a voice.
03:23:50
Speaker
Do you remember that? There's a controversy when they had voice acting for the protagonists. I'm like, that's that. It didn't bother me at all. In fact, I kind of like that better personally. Cause there's an element of like, you get to choose what they say and then you can choose it. And they, you say it, who cares what your voice sounds like?
03:24:06
Speaker
It's not that. um Yeah. I feel like typically I like it better, but I, I don't know. I think it's, it's hit or miss, I guess. Yeah, I suppose. Okay. I think it's thing. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to sidetrack. But anything else you want to add?
03:24:18
Speaker
That a cool, that was a cool little tidbit about the library. It's getting your use of the library. Now you didn't pay 30 bucks for a game. You just got it for free and you knew that it wasn't good because he bugged out in five minutes or an hour, I guess.
03:24:30
Speaker
It was a fucking hour. Okay. the waste of an hour. Yeah. That's terrible. I played a game recently that was very much a waste of time. What game? Behemoth. Anyway.
03:24:41
Speaker
Oh, it's not good? Skydance's Behemoth. if you If you saw that I played it and you're like, oh, maybe I should play I don't recommend this game. I don't think it's a complete waste of time. I think it's one of the most unpolished games I've ever played. And I don't understand why that is.
03:24:55
Speaker
And it really bothers me. This is a virtual reality title where you're fighting these giant behemoth, like giants, literally. And it's like a medieval fantasy type setting. And the problem is the polish is so bad that I'm like shocked this ever got by the goalie. Like how did they not realize like play test your game? Like it feels like it wasn't play tested at all.
03:25:14
Speaker
And there's a lot of redeeming elements of it. Like it it is really good in various elements. Like I think the combat is really satisfying to play, but it's so annoying in some other elements that I'm just like, this could have been so good. like It makes me so mad. As somebody who's a big fan of video games, like I think that it's just it's kind of... you know I mean, I don't not recommend it if you get it for free. like If it's on like PlayStation Plus and you can play it, maybe play it for a few hours. But I literally... I got to the very last trophy for collectibles and had to go through the chapter select. And I'm like, no.
03:25:45
Speaker
I can't. I noticed that. I know. i tried to go through the guide. I was like, the guide was really badly put together to be fair. Like also to the game, I guess the YouTube person doing the guide, like didn't, didn't label the guide properly. So he labeled the wrong collectibles in the wrong spot. So I went to the spot that he claimed to look for a collectible and it wasn't there because I had already got it. Cause it was a different collectible. Cause he,
03:26:09
Speaker
Anyway, that was really annoying, but the game was like glitching out where I was trying to run as a character, and it wouldn't let me run through the level, so I had to walk incredibly slowly. So I'm like, I'm going to collect this for 10 hours. It's going to take me longer than playing the game. I am not playing this anymore. I can't do it.
03:26:23
Speaker
but gay Because there's no combat anymore. The combat's done after you finish the game. There's no more combat, so you're not even you're just walking through the level getting collectibles, and like ah like you can't even run.
03:26:34
Speaker
so it was the worst. it was It's one of the worst... experiences I've had in the last five years, unfortunately. And it's funny because it's most it's reviewed badly. Like, and I was like, you know, when I started the game, I was like, why is this review badly? This is great.
03:26:49
Speaker
I'm like, i was excited to talk about it with everyone. I was like, this is great. I don't know what people are talking about, but then I, the further I went in, the more annoying it became. Again, i almost want you to play it because I want you to see, I got it on sale.
03:27:02
Speaker
I don't regret buying it because it was a good experience in that regard, but it's crazy because Skydance is the other guys who made, speaking of The Walking Dead, The Saints and Sinners, which I think is my favorite VR game, actually. on ah On a narrative perspective, certainly.
03:27:15
Speaker
I think my favorite VR game on PlayStation VR 2 is probably Gran Turismo 7 because it's really immersive, but. um or Call the Mountain, which I really liked. Actually, I really did like Call the Mountain, but I do think that Saints and Sinners on a narrative perspective of actually having a full-fledged narrative, narratively structured game where you're following a storyline and you have lots of options and survival it's horror it's it's really cool but i think that it's crazy that's that that's the same developer it just felt like they ran out of time they had to get the game out and then they're like we're not we're just gonna cut caught we're gonna cut time we're gonna have to cut our labor here because we just don't have the time to do it that's so frustrating man i hate shit like that it pisses me off honestly like maybe you disagree with me though
03:27:55
Speaker
To be fair, i'm not go I thought I would disagree. I thought for sure I was going to disagree with the critics. I was like, especially in the first two hours, I was like, oh, I disagree like like quite a bit with the critics. I think that especially the combat, because ah some of the critics were saying was repetitive because it was, um they thought that the combat was repetitive. I'm like, the combat is the best part. and What are you talking about?
03:28:13
Speaker
It's like the glitchy aspects of it is what's the problem. You know what i think it was actually part of it? I had two theories. One with theory was they didn't play test it, so they didn't catch a lot of the problems.
VR Gaming Critiques & Preferences
03:28:23
Speaker
And like, there was just like,
03:28:24
Speaker
ah quality of life improvements they could have made like handedly and that was a problem but i also think because this was on meta quest 2 which is such muted old hardware at this point they try to get it on every platform so they're playing to the lowest common denominator and that's why there's like not a lot of the features that the the v playstation vr 2 has like a lot of like the rumble features and the headset it's oh they don't have any of that They're very little. The implementation is very low and it's just very disappointing because it it could have been a lot better.
03:28:53
Speaker
And so that's kind of the problem too. i can't even believe that they put it on MetaQuest 2. ah Near the end of the game, I was like, think there's a chance to because like some of the graphics are really good and like some of it's like really rough and like what's going on here so i like looked it up andm like is this on meta quest 2 and it was and i'm like hmm that could explain some of the annoyances with it because it's just they really were trying to get it to work on meta quest 2 as a priority because meta sold a lot of units for quest 2 yeah as a quest to use like the top selling vr maybe of all time i think
03:29:24
Speaker
Is it? I think it is. i think you're right about that. Yeah, it's I don't know. I like VR, but like i have my v like PSVR headset. i have like the like the Best Buy protection plan on. i think I'm just going send it in and get a gift card.
03:29:36
Speaker
I call it. I play it every once in a while quite a bit. I think it's definitely worth it I love it. I really enjoyed like the, and whenever I have it on, it's great. But at the same time, it's also like, I got to set it up. I haven't like when it I moved into this house, what in February, I haven't set it up.
03:29:50
Speaker
And I was always meaning to set it up in the basement. And I just never did. And then at this point, I'm like, my, my protection plan ends early next year. I'm like, am I really going to play it in the next like six months? Probably not. I'll send it in.
03:30:02
Speaker
I'll get a big gift card. I'm going to buy a fucking TV for the basement. Okay. I really wanted to see, and I'm hoping they do this because I have a feeling it's a timed exclusive because the game I'm most anticipated, i really want to see, my most anticipated, I suppose, although it's not announced and may never come, is the Arkham VR.
03:30:19
Speaker
I think that looks really good. And it's reviewed very, very, very, very well. And I'm really disappointed that Meta, again, money had a that to only have it on their platform. It's on the MetaQuest 3 and three s And so that that's one of the games that I think like it's going to work perfectly on.
03:30:33
Speaker
It's going to look better on PSVR. One of the games I got recently that's amazing on it is Hitman, Hitman 3. It's so good. Oh my God. Cause they've, they've tried Hitman like four times on VR.
03:30:45
Speaker
They tried it once on Quest 2. They tried it on PC and they tried it on, Oh, PSVR 1. That was the first one they tried. And it was bad pretty much every time.
03:30:56
Speaker
It was reviewed very badly across the board. And this is the first time it was reviewed very well. It's very ridiculous, though. When you're freaking choking someone from behind, it's unbelievable. Because you're in VR. So you're like, it's very, very strange when you're like, you're you're you know would satisfied. i gro I don't know about satisfying. It's a little bit, there's something about it. But good it's cool, though. You can like hide in a closet and you're like peeking out of the closet. There's something really neat about it. But you have like almost like third person helps you in Hitman because you can kind of peek around corners supernaturally.
03:31:27
Speaker
like just like any game I guess but in this you're really really in first person like the most you could be and so you kind of peek around corners where you're like kind of struggling because you're in first person so the stealth is becomes a lot harder it's good though I really like it a lot it's it's it's really satisfying they did a really good job with that port again this depends on who's porting it, how they're porting it, how much time and effort they put into it. Because again, Hitman, they tried three other times before and it literally was reviewed like abysmally three times in a row.
03:31:56
Speaker
Anyway, we're not a gaming podcast. We've been talking about this for 20 minutes. So I think we should move on unless you've got more to say, my friend. No, that's the end, right? We're done. That's it. Yeah.
03:32:07
Speaker
Yeah. Sorry. the So move on to the end? and disarray Yeah. We're going to close it. Yeah. Let's do it. All right. Take care. See you. ah Well, I'm going to close. Anyway, thank you for listening to episode 117, audience of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. My name is Simon Eadie. And it has been a pleasure to host you alongside my intelligent co-host, Adrian Pinter.
03:32:30
Speaker
Please join us on September 9th for episode 118. Good evening to you and good luck. Take care. Goodbye.