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114. Dur-Rex V Superman
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Holy moly, it’s a pretty rock’n time for blockbuster movies this summer; and we’re love’n it! Simon & Adrian review director James Gunn’s Superman and director Gareth Edwards Jurassic World Rebirth. They also analyze the potential consequences of The Last of Us creator Neil Druckman’s departure from The Last of Us HBO series. On a somewhat gaming related-note, they also get hyped-up about Netflix's upcoming second season of Cyberpunk Edgerunners. Additionally, the 2 pals discuss the film trailers that premiered over the last two weeks, including director Christopher Nolan’s first trailer for The Odyssey. Plus, they converse about Netflix series You, the DCU’s Creature Commandos animated series, the fourth season of The Bear, Netflix’s Squid Game season 4, the unfortunate cancellation of the Josh Holloway starring Duster HBO series, and the overpowering taste of cooked bell peppers.
This episode was recorded in Canada on July 10th 2025. Episodes air every two weeks on Tuesdays! Catch us on July 29th for Episode 115.
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Director Reviews: James Gunn's Superman & Gareth Edwards' Jurassic World Rebirth
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This episode, we review director James Gunn's Superman and director Gareth Edwards' Jurassic World Rebirth.
Neil Druckmann Leaves HBO's The Last of Us: What's Next?
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We also discuss The Last of Us creator Neil Druckmann's departure from HBO's The Last of Us TV
Trailer Talk: Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey
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series.
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And we discuss the trailers released over the last two weeks, including director Christopher Nolan's first trailer for his epic The Odyssey.
Episode Introduction: Meet Simon Eadie and Adrian Pinter
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My name is Simon Eadie.
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And I'm Adrian Pinter. Welcome to Split Focus, a film and TV podcast, episode 114. no la wait la wait la no away
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to be Oh, my buddy, my pal, my Adrian, my friend. You're Adrian. That's so nice. ah You're the only Adrian I know. so Nice, dude.
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Not to diminish it. That's so sweet. and It's not diminished. Okay. Well, that's nice. That's nice. I think we should just get into it. We got a long podcast ahead.
Personal Updates: Culinary Adventures
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Theoretically, we've a lot of content to get through, a lot of conversations to have about film and TV. Usually we banter for a bit. I mean, i don't want to jump the gun. Do you have something you want to talk about? Maybe you want to say something you want to say to the audience? Maybe you want to say to me? Maybe there's something that happened in your life that's super exciting. I'm in if you have something like that. um I mean, there's a couple of things, but no need to update you here, man. I made a lasagna today, though, like veggie lasagna, um a big one. So I'm going to I'm going to be freezing it because it's just my fiance and I. Right.
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Yeah. Simon, I made the rookie mistake. i I'm always worried about over salting my food after this fiasco that happened like four years ago on Christmas where I over salted the shit out of a schnitzel.
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Because I just i I made a mistake. I made a huge little mistake and it was just way too salty. So now I'm always a little gun shy about salt in my my meals. I'm usually good. I'm usually good, but I'm always like and I made this big batch of lasagna, Simon. Right.
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Yeah. And the sauce. good. I was like, it's it's good. It's salty enough. I didn't want to add more salt to it, but I should have. Right? Because I have my cheese layer and like the cheese layer I usually make with like ricotta and like cheddar mozzarella. Cheese has salt in it. Yeah.
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So I was like, you know, together this is good, but I failed to just just clue in. I should have just gotten gone a little bit more salty because you got to season the
Family Cooking Traditions: Lasagna & More
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noodles.
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The noodles are unsalted, right? So although the sauce was perfectly seasoned, although the cheese mixture was perfectly seasoned, Simon, once you add the noodle in there, a little bit undersalted.
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So oh no I made a ah little mistake. today in my lasagna making. But hey, it's okay. It's delicious. And I usually make veggie lasagna, actually. Funnily enough, Simon.
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I don't know if you know that about me. I didn't. Yeah. no I do like a meat lasagna, but my sister's vegetarian. Even though she's not here, I've just gotten in into the habit making a nice like batch of like veggie lasagna.
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and like and I you know i and make like a nice tomato sauce with vegetables in it. Zucchini, mushrooms, carrots, onion, garlic, you know, tomato seasonings.
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um But anyways, and this is actually one of the first times where I was making the sauce. I put way too much garlic. um I love garlic. I'm like, I eat garlic for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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You know, I love it. Always got garlic in my meals. But this is the first time where I made my sauce. I like, oh, too much garlic. So I added more tomato in it to balance it out. It was okay by the end of it. It was okay. Yeah, I put it in a little bit too much garlic this time.
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Oh, it's OK. Because again, once I added the tomato is balanced, but now I got was this good. Is this a good lasagna? it's good Okay. You said it didn't salt it enough. and you Then you added too much garlic.
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You to offset it. I'm getting mixed signals here. That's all saying. it like Honestly, end dish, just a little bit undersalted. i should ah I love lasagna. I love homemade lasagna. Yeah, I do. do you Do you make lasagna at home?
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No. Does Don do it? No. but No, my grandmother used to. Both of them, actually. My ah my grown one grandmother always used to make lasagna. And, like, constantly she would make lasagna. She'd make a pretty solid lasagna, amazing lasagna. It's probably the best meal that she made, like, on a food perspective. Otherwise, she'd baked really well and she made, like, pies and stuff. Yeah. Like, strawberry rhubarb, you know, and homemade crust, etc.
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But my other grandmother... She's Croatian. So she didn't she doesn't really she didn't really make lasagna because it's not really a Croatian dish. But she made lots of really great Croatian dishes. Amazing. She's like an amazing cook.
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She was amazing. name Name two of your favorite dishes that are Croatian. From her? um i Well, the thing is, I don't know the name of them because they always dumb down the names of everything. Yeah.
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Well, explain. it that I love goulash personally, and that's not really
Movie Theater Experiences & Etiquette
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Croatian really, but she made a really good goulash for sure. And then she made like a like a strudel. They call it strudel, but it's not really – it wasn't strudel obviously.
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But she made like ah like ah like a pastry with like cheese in it or apple. Delicious as well. Or any berries or whatever. She would make like crepes. Delicious. what They call it pelachinkas.
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yeah pelajinka i know that there you go that one that one i know the name of but yeah lots of cool stuff i i yeah but oh no stuffed peppers i know you don't like bell peppers but like oh so good i like so so simon again you i do like bell peppers i don't like cooked bell peppers because i find them cooked yeah i know i know i just find it a very overpowering flavor i would i know still eat them i would still eat them i just i get the meat ah Dude, you're fucking ridiculous. She would make the meat separately for the people who didn't like the peppers, actually, interestingly. Yeah, that's what would make the peppers. That's what my mom did. With or without the meat inside.
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Yeah. so Yeah, that deconstructed stuff, yeah I guess. The audacity of you saying that bell peppers, cooked bell peppers isn't an overpowering flavor. You're wrong. Objectively wrong. i you know what's interesting about that is I feel like that's the dish in which they are more powering than other dishes. actually The stuffed bell pepper, like the that's the one that I really distinctly remember the flavor of bell peppers more than any other dish I've ever eaten, which is kind of a funny thing that we talk about that now.
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Yeah. But I mean, other moments, like if you have it in fajitas, I don't find it overpowering. Like the seasoning in fajitas and various things, that's largely on pizza, not overpowering. Like just so many moments, not overpowering, but i in stuffed bell peppers. I do like bell peppers on pizza now.
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Right. Because it's not that overpowering. Yeah. There's just some – I think it's something to do with the weight. There's a way that the bell peppers are cooked in that – the stuffed bell peppers. I think it might have biased you because you had stuffed bell peppers.
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I think that might have may have been what happened. Because now I never even realized it. I never thought of it as overpowering. But in that scenario specifically – It is in a way, but it's power but I think it's good powering. It's powering, you know?
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It's It's empowering. It powers through the taste buds. yeah It's empowering. It's empowering, yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, to say to food podcast, Adrian, this is a film and TV podcast, and we do have a lot to get through, unless you have more to say, in which case, please, by all means, and ah hopefully not food-related, anything about your day.
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You almost hit a pedestrian while driving your car. Anything like that? Any stories that you'd like to tell me? No, did did I almost hit a pedestrian? Because I drove behind you and we were driving home from the movie theater like an hour ago. Did you see me almost hit someone?
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Yes. Actually, you did actually hit them. You clipped them and you didn't notice. And oh there was an ambulance that came up behind and I actually had to help out. That's why we're late to record this podcast. Oh, dude, i'm not I'm sorry. I had no idea. Yeah, it was a hit and run. No, no, it wasn't. It wasn't a police officer listening to this podcast.
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It was. I don't have time for this bit. yeah all right, let's get on with it. We're in a hurry here. i was going to say, we just saw two movies in theaters. Let's get into the film and TV. Let's like weasel our way into it.
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we we We saw two movies in theaters in the last two weeks. This is a bi-weekly podcast. we we We record the episodes every two weeks. This is recorded, in this case, on a Thursday before the release date.
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We release every episode on every two weeks on Tuesdays. This is being recorded on the 10th of July. and set to be released on whatever day Tuesday is. But you know what day it is because you're listening to it, so I don't have to specify. Anyway, the point is,
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The point is, um the at the theaters this time, there's always some hijinks at these movie theaters, I find. i find This time, so we just saw Superman in theaters at the Cineplex. We saw it at AVX. We saw both movies we saw at an AVX.
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Yeah. But this, i don't know if there was any hijinks with the Jurassic World Rebirth movie. i don't think there was actually. It was actually rare that there's actually no crazy people in the theater. Yeah. Most packed theater that I've been in quite some time as well.
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It was pretty busy. yeah Yeah. Superman was not that busy in theater, which was weird. I will get to the review of that a little later, but I, there was something very strange in front of you. The guy sitting in front of you, he got up and left like,
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four times during the movie. And then him and his buddy, there was just the two of them sitting in front of us. They left before the end of the credits or even before the really, as soon as the credits started, which i was like, I don't understand. Have you never been to a superhero movie before in your life? It's a little James Gunn superhero movie who James Gunn's obviously had the history of working in the MCU, which always does end credits.
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I was very confused. I don't understand why people like, what are you going to beat the traffic? I don't understand what you're doing. And then the strangest thing is the guy who kept getting up. The weirdest thing about him is that when he sat down the first time,
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His butt crack was clearly visible. Every single time he got up and sat down, his butt crack was visible sitting but sitting back down. More and more all each time. and like His slowly going down. Eventually, he just had no pants on when he returned. It was crazy, dude. but no That part wasn't true, but the butt crack thing, man. Butt crack McGee. he was He was fierce in that theater.
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It was distracting. I don't know. Why did he keep getting up? He probably had to either urinate or... um Shit? Yeah, that. but I'm going to assume one of those two. Okay, maybe.
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It's possible. Maybe he was just passing gas and he wanted to be respectful and leave the room. i To be fair, though, I kind of blame my fiance for telling me about the butt crack McGee guy. So I didn't actually didn't initially, to be honest, see the butt crack. But then she's like, look, did you see that guy?
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He's like a plumber over there. And I'm like, no, I didn't notice. And then he just kept getting up throughout the movie. So that I had to see it. like At this point, I'm like, well, there he is again. don't know.
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Swipping a nice credit card right through that that crack there. I didn't do that. That that would be no-no, I feel like. But Crack McGee, though, he bought tickets to Superman, Adrian.
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He did indeed. Good stuff. I never noticed the Butcrack. Well, lucky you. See, at least I didn't lean over to you and tell you about it so that you had to notice it Because then you would have kept noticing it each time. Yeah.
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yeah Who knows what I would have done with that butt crack. Oh, well. All right. I don't want to imagine that. But anyway,
Impact of Neil Druckmann's Departure on The Last of Us
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let's move on to a few quick bites of film and TV industry news, Adrian, before we get into our reviews of Superman and and Jurassic World Rebirth.
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Okay. ah The first one...
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It's interesting. I wonder what you think about it. Neil Druckmann, the creator of The Last of Us and The Last of Us Part II, the video games, and then now the executive producer on The Last of Us TV show, season one and season two, is stepping away from The Last of Us HBO series to focus on Intergalactic, The Heretic Prophet, which is the next Naughty Dog game coming from Naughty Dog, obviously, but we're coming from Neil Druckmann, who's the creative director at at that studio.
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and He's actually the head of the studio completely. And they've potentially, there's a rumor game that they're also working on and on the side as well. What do you think about the fact that he's stepping away from the last of us HBO series? Obviously, if anyone's listening to this, let's listen to our reviews of season two of the last of us. ah You didn't like the last of a season two largely.
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So I'm curious. I know you're a fan of Neil Druckmann. What do you think about him stepping away from this HBO series? Yeah. Not as being participating in season three. And yeah, I'm just watching you start.
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you go dude Sorry, I had more to say, but just go. No, shut it out, dude. Now I feel bad. I set it up too long. You just tell me. Tell me what you think. Yeah, know. You're you're rambling there. Just rambling.
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um I was when I this is bittersweet news. Good news for me because I love video games. I love Naughty Dog is a video game studio. I love The Last of Us games. I think Neil Druckmann is an artist.
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and has released some of the best video games of all time. um So him going back and focusing on Naughty Dog and focusing on the games that are going to, ah yeah, the game that he's working on.
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I think that's good. Honestly, ah games take way too long to come out. I mean, Last of Us Part II came out 2020. It's 2025. That game is probably not coming out until, I mean, end of next year at the earliest, but probably like 2027 realistically.
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That's a long ass time to wait for my favorite studio to release a game and my favorite video game creator to release a game. So I'm glad that he is, again, taking a step back and focusing a little bit more on Video game production from a TV show fan perspective.
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I think this is bad for the last of us show. Personally, um i don't have as much faith in Craig Mason after last of us season two. I think where he chose to divert.
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um And I'm sure, again, i'm sure a lot of the the team you know chose to divert, but I just think he fundamentally doesn't understand Ellie as a character and and that portrayal in the sear season. um I just wasn't a fan of it.
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ah Again, you can listen to... seven episodes of me either praising some parts of it and, and really despising some parts of it. Neil Druckmann also was one of the main directors and and the writer for my favorite, or sorry, he was the director and one of the writers on my favorite episode of the series itself, which happened in season two, it's episode six.
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I think that was immaculate. and it's the first time I felt like, Ellie was her character i' throughout you know the entirety of season two. I adored that episode so much.
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So i'm I'm holding my breath. like ah Again, like hopefully he understands Abby as a character for season three because it seems like that's probably going to be... I don't know what you mean he doesn't understand Ellie as a character. I mean, there's a writer's room, right? So they wrote the character...
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together and they all understand the character and Neil Druckmann and Hallie Gross who made the character essentially. So it was interesting. There was, i listened to all the last of us podcasts after, um, as well, like after the episodes, after we recorded our thing, cause I didn't want it kind of skewing my opinion of the, of the episodes. And it was interesting to hear Neil Druckmann and, and Hallie Gross specifically talk about that last episode.
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Which they wrote. which Which, again, they they co-wrote with Craig Mazin. Which is your least favorite episode. Which is my least favorite episode, yes. But it seemed like Halle Gross in particular was kind of unhappy about some of the choices that Ellie made in that episode.
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And actually pushed a little bit back on Craig Mazin for some of the decisions that were made. And Craig Mazin kind of explaining why... Ellie made those choices in that episode. So it kind of enlightened me that maybe they didn't have as much creative power as... i mean, definitely they don't have as much creative power of the show as Craig Mazin, right? They're coming in from the video game industry.
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Holly Gross did, I think. I think she was involved in Westworld, if I recall correctly as well. But um like Neil Druckmann, this is his first foray into the TV industry. And I feel like, yeah, with with Craig Mazin, I think he had final say and final control. and So I don't know. Again, i just...
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I just don't think he nails what Ellie is from the game in the TV show. Whereas I think pretty much every other character was nailed. I think Joel is very similar in in both series. I think Jesse is Dina.
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I think a little bit more charming the show. I've got to reiterate this. They're not the same character. We're watching a TV show versus the game. I know, man. But my point is is every other character is similar to the video game.
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And it seems like he has an understanding of those characters, but I think he has a misunderstanding of how Ellie acts.
Adapting Video Games to TV: Challenges & Opportunities
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So they all get have a misunderstanding, right? Because the the the character's written differently overall. like It's a completely different actions this character's making in a fundamental ways. Yes. So either Neil Druckmann wasn't there, you you went to sleep.
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If you watch the behind the scenes, he literally, Neil Druckmann talks in every single behind the scenes for every single episode. Mm-hmm. I just, I don't buy that he was not involved enough. And if you're that much of a creative as Neil Druckmann is and in it, in it, in invested creator, I don't think that he just lets, Oh, it's okay. You don't understand the character. That's fine though.
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It's a writer's room of three people. Essentially. I don't think there's a fourth writer, right? Is there, maybe there was one for episode five. They were the three credited writers for those last two episodes. If that's what you're asking.
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In general, Craig Mazin wrote all of the other episodes. I think so, yeah. That seems right. so But that's when they look at the skeleton of the episode of the of the entire season and they break it down because that's how the writer's rooms typically work, from my understanding, when you're writing a show, you all come together and you determine who's writing what, but you also determine the skeleton of the show.
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And you figure out where things are going to go. Yeah. Ellie's not like just making – moment to moment decisions that are would be drastically changed their decisions that are changing the course of the entire season um so they just agree that they're just gonna let him just do whatever they want with their characters it just seems a little strange i feel like they knew what they were doing and they they let they they not just let they not only let him do this they they wrote it themselves because they wrote the episodes I don't know.
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I find that they knew what they were doing and they wrote Ellie in a different way. It's just written in a different way. She's a more immature character overall. It it just seems obvious. I don't know. i don't i You can blame one guy, but they're involved.
00:19:11
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Like it's completely, they wrote it. Like they literally wrote that your worst, though literally the worst episode, which has one of the worst scenes and in the entire season. season By far, yeah.
00:19:22
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um Because it's nonsense. It's just written badly. So I think maybe they might have been spread thin, but maybe they got a little, I don't know, but they wrote it That's what happens when you put your names on name names on things.
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Yeah. um But yeah, their names aren't on the other episodes to be fair. And I imagine that Neil's involved in the rest of the season because again, he's in the baign behind the scenes talking about every episode in every single behind the scenes.
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You literally see him talk about every single episode. Yeah. Cause he's, he's one of the two showrunners. Like he was a showrunner for these first two seasons. There you go. There you go. So yeah, he's super involved.
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This is involved as a guest. Yeah.
00:20:01
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Are you disputing that or not? No, no, were confused. No, like I mean, obviously he was a showrunner. I i just don't... like I mean, Neil Druckmann obviously understands that character because he created her.
00:20:15
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And yeah I've seen what he did without Craig Mason's involvement. I've seen what Hallie Gross did without Craig Mason's involvement when they created The Last of Us Part II. I think that game's immaculate. It's better than same property. And this is something that I don't think a lot of people online are accepting. And if you take people who have not played the game, there's no bias. And so when you go into it and you watch the show and you like it because you don't have a bias, those are different fundamentally different characters.
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Yeah, but again, i've never I've never denied that I don't have a bias, Simon. you know I've always said that i'm I'm very biased about this and that I can't let go. And i've I've made that. So yeah again, and you're asking for my opinion on on Neil Druckmann leaving.
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I think this is going to be bad for the show personally because I just don't. Yeah. like Right? like that that's That's my opinion. I guess from a just ah like the general perspective that doesn't understand or doesn't know the game.
00:21:06
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Yeah, maybe this is still good. maybe Maybe they're going to like it even more without Neil Druckmann involved. I don't know. Yeah. I'm not disputing that the show is going to be worse off. I'm just disputing the fact that I i find it strange that people are just be like, ah, it's not Neil's fault. it's like, no, it is.
00:21:22
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It just fundamentally is everything. Neil's completely involved. And that's kind of the dispute. Whether the show will be worse off is a mystery. I mean, Craig Mazins did a great job with Chernobyl. And I think the first season is pretty good for the last of it. I honestly think the second season is pretty good. I just don't have that bias. I don't know why.
00:21:39
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ah just don't see it the way you do in any capacity in that regard. I don't. There's also this idea that The Last of Us could never, ever in a million years, and it wasn't for both the first and the second season, be as close to the game or be as good as the game in any capacity.
00:21:56
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On a quality metric, they're just not similar. And they're not, it's not better. It just can't be. And the fact that you're playing a character is just so much fun to like the gameplay aspect of it, the playing the perspective of the character.
00:22:08
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It's just so fundamentally different. I don't actually know when they announced this and when they announced Uncharted years ago with David O. Russell and Mark Wahlberg to make Uncharted, you know, I was like, what, but, but why?
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When they, when you announce a game like Fallout, Becoming a a show or a movie. That's a really good idea because follow it's an anthology series. Essentially, you can kind of follow whatever in the world and the vibe of the world is actually the greatest idea for a TV show.
00:22:36
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But following a completely linear storyline that follows that gives you no choice and consequence options and then just giving us the thing again. The only thing I can hope for really is to see like completely drastic changes that I'm actually more interested in because I i almost look at it as almost like an alternate universe.
00:22:53
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Like for instance, the first season, episode three, a brilliant episode, one of the best episodes of TV that year. And in this season, changing Ellie in various ways is more interesting to you to me personally than doing the exact same thing. Because then it becomes the Lion King live action and Lilo and Stitch live action and Snow White live action and Beauty and the Beast live action. They're all the same movie.
00:23:14
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You just don't need to make them. I don't need to see these movies.
Success of Cyberpunk Edgerunners & Anime Tropes
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And i I largely didn't go see them. Now, I'm not negative on them. I'm happy that they're making The Lion King. You didn't like The Lion King. No. Correct?
00:23:26
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Right. but Obviously, you like the Disney original movie. Oh, yeah. I love the original. I grew up on i mean on on that. I meant the live action, but it's not a live action anyway. It's another animated movie, to be fair. But it's higher quality animation worse.
00:23:40
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Yes. That costs a lot more. Yeah. um But I don't dislike those movies. That's cool that they're making them for a different audience. But for me, they're never going to hit the mark because I just don't see the point like in any way. ah yeah It makes more sense to make like ah ah Mass Effect movie.
00:23:59
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show in a way versus God of War. Unless you're going to do something different with God of War because there's so much content with God of War versus The Last of Us, but God of War follows a distinct storyline. Mass Effect doesn't.
00:24:11
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The problem with Mass Effect is you're going to tread on people's decisions because of the choice and consequence there. Unless you follow a different character in the interesting world that Mass Effect perhaps is. So as an example, because they are making a Mass Effect show and they are making a God of War show. That's why I'm using those ah as an example. That is a good point. And again, you talked about Fallout as well. Like, I don't know if like Fallout's really known for its characters. Again, this is from a guy that doesn't really care about Fallout. They're not.
00:24:37
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And there's no characters really in the show that are in the games. they Yeah. They just don't. Except for... the ghoul or whatever right like isn't that like a like a character i don't think so i could be incorrect i don't believe so i haven't played every follow game i played fall of four and i know briefly the story of fall of three and like new vegas i don't believe he's a character in it i think they started to incorporate it that kind of character in fall at 76 like the oh multiplayer game because people love his character so much walton goggins plays him so well yeah he's brilliant he's best part of the show i think
00:25:11
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I agree. Yeah. I agree completely, Simon. Yes. But anyway, yeah i yeah, I see what you're saying. yeah but But likely it will be worse because Neil Druckmann is a brilliant creator.
00:25:22
Speaker
I don't disagree with you there. i love him. I've just heard online in various places people are like, it's because Neil's upset or like he he's leaving the show because he wasn't happy about the direction.
00:25:33
Speaker
It's like he is the direction. ah No offense, but like if you're Craig, you kind of just follow his to his lead in a way. It's kind of... it's He's the guy.
00:25:46
Speaker
He made it. So I don't know. We'll see what happens. But my thought process about him leaving, I'm really happy about him leaving for one particular reason. I can't even imagine how he's the bandwidth to freaking run this many projects at the same time. don't understand. There's no way.
00:26:01
Speaker
And to have somebody who has that attention to detail and go in and he's going to go and and run an HBO show and then also run Intergalactic, The Heretic Prophet... I want to see the new thing ah in in the reference to the fact that I didn't want to see a Disney live action version of Lion King because I don't care about that that much. like I don't care if you make it. Cool. That's great.
00:26:20
Speaker
It's good for someone. but For me, I'd rather see Lion King 3. I don't actually want to see Lion King 3, but you know what saying. That's what that Lufasa movie I'd rather see Intergalactic, The Heretic Prophet, or The Last of Us Part 3 versus seeing The Last of Us literally retold in a different format for people who don't want – like change their lives in a positive way and play video games. you know i'm saying?
00:26:44
Speaker
Yeah. I know what you're saying there. That's fair, dude. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. That's my thought process. So I'm really happy about like genuinely overall. I don't even care about the last of a show. I got to say like I, I, the last of a show for season one and season two,
00:26:58
Speaker
You were higher on season one than I was. I'm higher on season two than you were. But ultimately, season one and season two are lined up on the same line for me in the same planes. Like, cool. I like it. I like watching with my fiance who hasn't watched or played the game. That's cool. It's exciting. It's kind of fun.
00:27:12
Speaker
But ultimately, cool, Neil. Do something new, man. Do something that's a sequel or something that's related to... you know, another series or do intergalactic, which looks so good.
00:27:23
Speaker
I know. So good. I'm so excited about that, but it could be three years out. Who knows if he's not a part of it, how much, how much are they off track? Because he's not, he's not invested as the director. I think he's the creative director of the game, right? Yeah, he is.
00:27:39
Speaker
Yeah. So it's super important. So I'm, I'm happy about it. He's head of the studio and the creative director of that game. Right. So, and lead writer, obviously, and everything like that too. And then there's potentially another game.
00:27:50
Speaker
I assume he doesn't have much involvement in the other game. But he's the head of the studio, so they need to – That's true. Apparently, he said something in an interview where they were saying that he's like – they're bouncing ideas off of him. And then he – like even for Intergalactic, when he's gone, they throw – they say, oh, this what we've been working on. And he's just like, oh, that's not good.
00:28:09
Speaker
And then sometimes you they say, oh, this is what we've been working on. And he's like, oh, that's great. So like that he said that. I think that was the interview with –
00:28:18
Speaker
Alex Garland? I'm not sure. I think it was something like that because he was, Alex Garland was like, how do you balance it? Because you got like so many projects going on. Isn't that like a lot? Like you have to go, you're running an HBO show and then making a game. Anyway.
00:28:30
Speaker
All right. We've talked about this long enough. Unless you got more to say. No. Okay. Sounds was good. ah Another bit of Quick Bytes news. as Season 2. I know you're excited about this one.
00:28:43
Speaker
I am. Season 2 of Netflix's Cyberpunk Edgerunners is incoming and is now in production according to Netflix. Also based on a video game, obviously.
00:28:53
Speaker
Yes. But this the the key difference between Cyberpunk Edgerunners and Cyberpunk the game is it's set in the world of Cyberpunk, but totally different story. Totally different characters.
00:29:06
Speaker
Yes, which is really cool. And yeah the difference between the adaptations of The Last of Us It's just a linear, it's just fall. This a perfect, this is actually the greatest example we could literally just talk about. It's completely connected to what we were just talking about. This is less like the Lion King, you know, animated movie again.
00:29:23
Speaker
And this is more like fallout as a TV show adaptation, which is super exciting. And that first season was excellent.
00:29:31
Speaker
Cyberpunk Edrunners. Yeah, I agree completely. I think it was fantastic. It's what got me into cyberpunk, the video game, Simon. Yeah. I think you know this. I do know that. I, uh, Because heard such good things about the anime. I was what? I'll give it a try.
00:29:46
Speaker
Look at it. I'll watch it. And then I was very invested. Me and my fiance played, er sorry, watched the entire thing together. She adored it as well. And they were smart. They put Cyberpunk on sale when this show released.
00:30:00
Speaker
So I literally, I think I finished episode like one or two. we like watched the first two episodes and then my fiance is like, okay, cool. I'm going to go to bed. And I was like, fuck. Fuck. And then I immediately went on the PlayStation Store, bought Cyberpunk, downloaded and started playing that night.
00:30:13
Speaker
And I created my character and everything like that. So I – Yeah, I love – think also the part of the story you're missing too is you initially started it a year ago or two years before that. And you didn't really vibe with it at the time.
00:30:26
Speaker
It was incredibly glitchy. So that's a great example too is that you said it was on sale. They were starting to like ramp it up. But it really – I think it hit a fervor when the show had come out too, like Edgerunners.
00:30:37
Speaker
Because that game was very glitchy. It was being refunded by play on PlayStation. People still bought it in droves. It was still so wildly successful by any stretch of the imagination for a video game.
00:30:48
Speaker
But once the show had come out and then they had done all these updates, it was in such good shape at that point that it started to sell like even more. um And then the DLC came out later after Edge Runners, and I feel like people were very hyped afterwards. Yeah.
00:31:02
Speaker
Yeah, but ah season two of the show is awesome, obviously. Like, it's... ah Do not watch the trailer for this yeah season. Yeah, it spoils the first season. Entirely. I mean, watch it if you... Watch the first season, I guess, yeah. yeah yeah But yeah, it's it's the the the second season, because it's highlighting like, hey, this is an anthology, like this is going to be, it's still in Night City, it's going to be new characters, yada, yada, yada, but it still just spoils the entirety of the first season.
00:31:29
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't spoil anything about the second season at all. In fact, gives us nothing for that, at least. Yeah, it's cool, but it does spoil the first season, which seems like a weird choice because it is a anthology series. Mm hmm.
00:31:40
Speaker
It is an odd choice indeed. But um yeah, I'm very excited about this again. I think at runners ah like the the anime was. Immaculate. One of the, I think it's like one of those anime shows that even people that don't like anime can get into.
00:31:53
Speaker
Like ah our, like, like a mutual friend, Peter, that, you know, um like he, he's not an anime guy at all. And like, is very picky and choosy, like on the odd anime that he'll watch.
00:32:05
Speaker
And like, this was one of the anime shows that he like watched and was like, this is it fantastic. One of my good friends, Carter as well. He's not an anime guy at all. This is, was like an anime that he got into and and loved.
00:32:16
Speaker
So like, it's, it's, I hope they nail it with Ed runners too. Um, I think it's the same creative team, same animation studio. So I'm, I'm very, very excited about what they can come up with.
00:32:28
Speaker
Um, Yeah, Studio Trigger. Yeah, Studio Trigger, exactly. And I'm just curious when this is going to come out because like i want to replay Cyberpunk. I want to play the DLC. I know they're coming out with apparently the last update, you know update 2.3, was supposed to come out I think last month, but then got like delayed and they said like it's going to be a little bit larger than expected.
00:32:49
Speaker
So I'm going to wait for that. But I'm like, do I just wait until Edgerunners 2 comes out to play? It depends on how many games I'm juggling, but I really want to fucking play Edgeron. Just watching that trailer, I was like, fuck, I want to play Cyberpunk, man.
00:33:01
Speaker
Yeah, i think it will be next year, i think. I don't know. The show. the The season two of the show. I feel like yeah the the update's supposed to be imminent. It was supposed to come up by the end of June, but they got delayed. I wonder what the update will be, though. That's the thing. like the The actual update to the game, I'm not sure. The last update was pretty minimal from my perspective. like they added like You could change colors of cars. You could do customization in various spots for your character. That's cool, but I think... Didn't they add more Keanu Reeves?
00:33:30
Speaker
so Oh, yeah. They added it. Yeah, he follows. He shows up in more places. I don't think it's more voice lines, though, unless I'm mistaken. I think it's just. I don't know how play it. But there's so many voice lines in Phantom Liberty, the DLC that also stars Idris Elba.
00:33:43
Speaker
Oh, what a good. That's like they're them. And I think I think from software now at this point are like masters of DLC. Like of making like a really like compelling package, like Phantom Liberty, blood and wine DLC from the Witcher. um And then i I'm mentioning like Elden Ring DLC, basically by says it by mentioning from software, they're very valuable. Oh, I was, it's funny. We talked about Elden Ring being made into a movie and how we kind of thought that way. Like, what are you going to do with that?
00:34:12
Speaker
It's Alex Garland, like the the writer and director of like a civil war. and writer of 28 years later and 28 days later, he's somehow going to direct an Elden Ring movie. And I just don't think that's a very plot heavy good thing to potentially do make a plot around. I guess a movie is a strange thing because it's very gameplay oriented Elden Ring. But I will say it's kind of perfect because of the fact that the plot is so vague. It's kind of great. It's actually what we were just talking about.
00:34:41
Speaker
Maybe it will be a lot better than we thought. anticipate because it is he can put his own spin on what eldon ring is but yeah i guess we'll see yeah i'm excited about edge runners too i i really like the first season i watched it alongside i've been doing this thing with synergy i watched it alongside my second playthrough of cyberpunk when i played phantom liberty and uh it was ah very good excellent excellent show so yeah definitely worth watching this is it i feel like i don't i don't know anime is like kind of weird do you find that anime has like a big a bit of a stigma to it even the way you described it with peter like ah he doesn't like certain anime it's like yeah i but i don't know don't know if that it's like i'm a fan of good stories you know what i'm saying
00:35:30
Speaker
You know what mean? Like, this is an excellent story. It's really well animated as well. But it's just an animated show that's excellent. Like, you can... I don't know. There's sometimes just, like... ah There's some, like, ah there's some tropes in anime, like, very classic anime that yeah I don't like either, potentially. But it's just, like, maybe that's not good.
00:35:48
Speaker
You know? Maybe we accept it because of getting used to it. Like, oh, well, it's just anime. That's, you know, that's just what it is. But it doesn't have to be because Edgerunners is not like that. And it's...
00:36:01
Speaker
Yeah, exactly, man. Yeah, like I think, I mean, Attack on Titan, I think is like one of the prime examples where I think it's it's immaculate. There still is like the odd anime trope here and there, but it's just a phenomenal story.
00:36:12
Speaker
Yeah, that's what matters most. But I talked about how I watched like Jujutsu Kaisen not too long ago like i was like going through because my old co-worker recommended it to me and I just like, it's a good story, but it is so muddied by such like, like a, like an excessive amount of tropiness.
00:36:32
Speaker
And it's like, it's fluff. Like I watched what, like 30 episodes of this fucking show, maybe even more, maybe 40. I don't remember. It's like, you could have cut that down to 15 amazing episodes of TV.
00:36:44
Speaker
yeah Really. really But it's like they just have to add like the fan service-y-ness, tropiness, the bad comedy and that like I don't know who the fuck finds funny. Like it's just – All in all, it's almost like not good.
00:36:59
Speaker
Yeah. You kind of just accept it. but Yeah, dude. Like a lot of the time, the bad outweighs the good. And it's like, it's tough to get into some stuff like that because of it. But like, again, there there is the occasional anime that I'll watch. I'm like, oh man, this is really good. I grew up watching a lot of anime. and And like, it's, you know, something I grew out of over time, but I still love it. I still typically watch like one anime a year or maybe two.
00:37:19
Speaker
ah like go back to it and check it out. And yeah I don't know. i yeah There's a lot of good in there. It's just like you got to sift through a lot of the bullshit. yeah Which sucks. But and I guess that's everything. It's tight.
00:37:32
Speaker
It's tight. Super tight. Tight, tight, tight, tight. Yeah. Indeed. Okay. Super cool, man. Move on to...
00:37:44
Speaker
the next tiny quick bite of news. We got, um, Oh, this was just a trailer roundup. Actually. It's not really news at all. It's just trailers that we watched this week. There might be more that you have seen that I haven't written here, but we just saw this in theaters actually like the Phil Lord, Christopher Miller, Ryan Gosling, starring project Hail Mary.
00:38:04
Speaker
Um, I don't if youve seen that trailer before. I can't remember. i don't think so. I think I saw it like, you know when you're like scrolling through Instagram, it's like the trailer starts now.
00:38:17
Speaker
And you see like a bit of it and then yeah you just keep scrolling. I feel like I saw some of it. Isn't that a wild? That the reason they do that is just because they need to grab your attention. So they do a tiny trailer before the trailer. Like people have such short attention spans. That's how they have to be marketed to.
00:38:30
Speaker
Because that's what everyone, every trailer does that where they they trailer you before the trailer. It's like, ah you are you ready to sit through two minutes? ah You won't because you're too, you have ADHD. Oh, yeah. we' We'll help you out.
00:38:44
Speaker
it's It's pretty sad. Yeah. I mean, like if your phone's in portrait mode, you're swiping, you're scrolling, dude. So it's tough. It's tough. you get You got to do anything. But no, this trail looks good. This is by the... um
00:38:57
Speaker
Isn't this like the Project Hail Mary book? It's by the same author that did The Martian, right? Am I crazy? Yeah, that's right. like i yeah Yeah, okay. It's a similar concept, too, based on the trailer.
00:39:08
Speaker
Which is cool. I really love The Martian. I know you didn't love The Martian too much. I think it's awesome. I really do love it. I thought Matt Damon had a really great performance in it as well. But, yeah.
00:39:20
Speaker
That's really Scott. That was a really Scott movie. Yeah, direction. Yeah, I'm not too sure who's directing this one, except for the people that you literally just named mere moments ago. So I do know. So disregard what I just said.
00:39:31
Speaker
Okay, I thought maybe I made a mistake. No, no, no, you didn't. Okay, yeah, it is Phil yeah phil Lord, Christopher Miller. And like, I don't know. i always get them confused. this And theyf confused they muddy it. They do this on purpose. They say, oh, the Spider-Verse.
00:39:45
Speaker
the The creators of the Spider-Verse. It's like you didn't, but you didn't direct the Spider-Verse movies. No. Like those movies are not, they're, I think they're written by them in some capacity and they produce them certainly, but it didn't. Like there are the 21 Jump Street, 22 Jump Street directors. I think that's their most well-known films, I think.
00:40:03
Speaker
And maybe there's something else that I'm not thinking of.
00:40:07
Speaker
Yes? The Han Solo Solo movie called Solo, a Star Wars story that never released and then got taken over by Ron Howard. Yeah, right. ah They wrote the Lego movie. That was a fun movie. Yeah, it was a fun movie. The Lego movie and Cyberpunk Edgerunners, funnily enough, have the exact same plot line.
00:40:25
Speaker
I didn't watch the Lego movie, so I can't make that connection. They do have a very similar plot line, funnily enough. and and not Not even being facetious. there There was a meme going around, actually. One of my coworkers or my old coworkers sent it to me.
00:40:38
Speaker
And I like looked down like, yeah, this is actually a fair argument. um hu And I was like yeah, I can I can see. I can see the connection. But anyways, yeah, again, this movie looks cool.
00:40:49
Speaker
Ryan the Goose Gosling, he's just a regular old science teacher and he gets sent out to space to save the world or something and then he meets an alien. Seems cool. Yeah, it does look cool.
00:41:00
Speaker
I'm interested. Yeah. Okay. ah Next trailer. ah Did you watch the Edgar Wright trailer with Glenn Powell, the the Running Man? like yeah, did. remake of the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie?
00:41:12
Speaker
Yeah, so... I did. i did. i love Glenn Powell. I got him. That's my man crush, dude. I just think he's like, and I feel like he'd give you a nice warm embrace. He seems like a very nice fella.
00:41:24
Speaker
care Charisma of a God, you know? And I love Edgar Wright's flicks. Big fan of Edgar Wright's movies as well. So I think this is like a match made in heaven. I never watched The Running Man with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
00:41:35
Speaker
um But yeah if if I'm aware, if I'm correct about this, I think this is more faithful to the book, like the Stephen King book. Whereas... The Arnold Schwarzenegger movie back in the 80s or whatever was a little bit more sci-fi and not as faithful to the original novel, if I if i read correctly online.
00:41:55
Speaker
But yeah, this trailer looks fun, man. Edgar Wright that has such style. what What was his last movie? Was it that that horror movie that we didn't love? Yeah, with Anya Taylor-Joy? That one?
00:42:06
Speaker
Yeah. Is that the one? Yeah, I think so. I forget the name of it. i I don't know. like I could see keep thinking red light, blue light. Yeah. That's, uh, there's, there's red lights in that movie.
00:42:19
Speaker
Edgar Wright movies. Edgar Wright. Last night in Soho. Oh yeah. Was it the last one? Yeah. That, it seems as such.
00:42:30
Speaker
Yeah. It seems as such. Cool. Yeah. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Which was fine. I didn't love it. It was cool to see him kind of go into a different genre. I just don't think that was, uh,
00:42:42
Speaker
executed all that well um but yeah the running man stoked for it gonna watch it for sure man this trailer seems really fun there's but there's been a lot of content i mean again ah again this is based on a steven king book but there's a lot of that like oh you gotta yeah everyone's coming to kill you you gotta to survive um in a city are you thinking about something specific I'm thinking of the Quibi show with Liam Hemsworth. The Quick Byte. Yeah, we're on Quick Byte News and we're making a reference to Quick Byte.
00:43:09
Speaker
yeah Yeah, that one. But even most recently, there is the- What called? It was with Christoph Waltz. What called again? it was called the, oh, Dangerous Game, A Dangerous Game. Yeah, A Dangerous Game. There's also the the more recent one with Jake Johnson where he's like, everyone's trying to kill me.
00:43:25
Speaker
Then there was also the, I think, I didn't watch this one, the John Cena Aquafina movie. I think it was called like Jackpot. Yeah, right. I saw that. did you You didn't see that one? No, no, no. It's not that good. Don't watch it. I like John Cena and Awkwafina, though.
00:43:39
Speaker
I do like that as well. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah okay. That's cool. I should mention christopher ah Christopher Miller and Phil Lord, they directed...
00:43:51
Speaker
I love this show. The After Party. That's the thing that they did most recently that I like the most. I like 21 Jump Street enough, but I think that After Party is really good. you watch season two of The After Party? Because i never did. yeah Yeah, it's good.
00:44:05
Speaker
It's sad to go cancel because it's pretty it's pretty good. Cliffhanger ending? Or no? No, because they solve it. They solve it in the first one too, right? Yeah. they solve the crime. It's just like, who murdered the person? And you find you figure it out over time. oh It's also got Zach ah zach wood Wood in it.
00:44:22
Speaker
Zach Woods? Is it Woods or Zach Wood? I think it's Zach Woods. Yeah, Zach Woods. Plural. From The Office and from Avenue 5? Is it called Avenue 5?
00:44:33
Speaker
I was going to say 7th Avenue and I was like, that's not right. Yeah, the the the one with, oh man, um the names are escaping me here. Stop naming people. Hugh Laurie from House.
00:44:44
Speaker
He's in it as a captain of ah of ah like ah a ship, like a cruise ship that's going through space. Yeah, that's a really good show. That's that's really sad that that got canceled. Yeah, the first season was much better than the second one. But yeah, it is a bummer that it did kick get canceled because I like both seasons.
00:44:59
Speaker
Yeah. Um, okay. Other trailers. There's also, I guess we'll leave the best for last. We saw, we just saw this in theater again, and unless you hadn't seen it before, but the Bill Hader starring the cat in the hat movie.
00:45:10
Speaker
Yes. The animation style. This is what stands out to me the most is that it changes. It reminds me of Puss in Boots, the last wish in that the animation style changes based on the situation that they're in.
00:45:22
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's is pretty cool how they do it. uh, It's interesting though, because I like some of the animation styles and then the other animation styles seem almost like cheap.
00:45:34
Speaker
AI has ruined everything, genuinely. Oh. And there are like, that with the human characters when they're on them and like you see like the animation, it's like this is this looks like if AI tried to do like a like a Pixar animation kind of a little bit.
00:45:47
Speaker
um I don't know, maybe maybe that's... I feel like I'm being rude. Someone put in a lot of hard liked it. I thought it was good. yeah, like, I don't know, it took... Yeah, I didn't love that. But... Most of the animation style I do like. So it's like it's kind of like a toss up.
00:46:01
Speaker
I really like Bill Hader as well. Yeah, me too. Did you watch the the mike Mike Myers like Cat in the Hat movie when you were a kid? I didn't. I never saw it. Did you? Yeah, it's fucking nightmare fuel, dude. I liked oh like I sorry, I did not like it when I was a kid. I did watch it. Oh,
00:46:17
Speaker
Interesting. Okay. It's it's creepy, dude. The cast in this is pretty good. i was looking at the people who created it, like ah Alessandro Carloni. I was looking at this the other day because I was curious like what they did.
00:46:30
Speaker
he's like the kung He's a Kung Fu Panda dude. Oh. I think he was involved in Kung Fu Panda. Did you like the Kung Fu Panda movies? so I watched the first one, which I enjoyed. i had a coworker. I had a coworker who told me that their dad's favorite movies are Kung Fu Panda movies. And then he can't get him to stay awake for any other movies except for Kung Fu Panda. And this is like a six year old man. And I thought that was the funniest thing ever. i thought that was the greatest.
00:46:55
Speaker
He's like, no, even action movies is like most likely he'll stay awake for action movies. But if it's like a drama, he won't stay awake. But if it's Kung Fu Panda, he'll stay awake. And it's like the movie he's seen it and he'll see it over and over again. Not like watching a different Kung Fu Panda movie. You'll watch the same one over and over again. You'll stay awake.
00:47:11
Speaker
like that's remarkable. That's a love. That's that's a very wholesome story. But anyway, um the other writer or creator of this director for um cat in the Hat is Erica Rivenoja.
00:47:24
Speaker
And she wrote Borat subsequent movie film, which I think is super cool. Cause this is not that at all. She was also a producer on South Park.
00:47:37
Speaker
And trying to see what else you wrote. Interesting, because Bill Hader was a writer on South Park. I don't know if he still is, but he was. Oh, and she's a writer on Clone High as well.
00:47:47
Speaker
Oh, okay. They brought that back, didn't they? They brought back Clone High, didn't they? I never watched any Clone High. Did you watch? You liked Clone High, didn't you? I did, yeah. for seminus Okay. yeah Clone High. There was a reboot. Wasn't there? Am I crazy?
00:48:01
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know anything about Clone High other than you liked it. That's the thing. um Yeah, that seems to be the most substantive. I can't believe it's Borat's subsequent movie film is the one that she's most recently pretty much done other than Clone High. Oh, yeah. Clone High, yeah. 2023 to 2024. that what you mean? Yeah, that they just cancel it after it. I'm part of the problem. I don't fucking watch You didn't even remember. you didn't really realize it was out.
00:48:24
Speaker
You just thought it was and it never happened. and There's another thing at the very end of the montage that I want to talk about briefly that got canceled. I'm kind of sad about that because I also didn't watch it. I'm part of the problem, as you say.
00:48:35
Speaker
That last trailer to talk about is Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey. They showed this at the end of the Jurassic World Rebirth ah trailers. Actually, they showed it after, which I love when they do this. It's like, there's like ah oh, here's a feature. It almost looks like the movie's starting and it's not starting because they did did like the...
00:48:52
Speaker
They did the AVX for us watching it in the ultra AVX type theater with the really goodd good Dolby Atmos sound and huge screen, like a step down from IMAX. They showed the like the you know the trailer for, all you're watching an AVX movie. And then they showed Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey trailer for the first time.
00:49:12
Speaker
um because they're both universal pictures. What did you think of this trailer? It's pretty simple and pretty bare bones. I actually quite like this trailer because it's like, don't know, shot really well. And it's just pretty much the whole time. Mostly it's just John Bernthal talking.
00:49:26
Speaker
Hell yeah, it Yeah. Oh yeah, it is. I like John Bernthal again. Yeah. the The greatest, like he just gives 120% every time. The guy's great. and One thing i don't know if you picked up on, everyone has different accents.
00:49:40
Speaker
Oh, I didn't. Yeah. Yeah. So I feel like it's just a creative choice where they're like, just fucking talk however you want. Who cares? Yeah. Which I'm fine with. I don't really care. Cause I think this is going to be a little bit more fantastical of a, well, yeah, they're not speaking on movie Greek.
00:49:55
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So well yeah, I guess it makes sense. You what mean? what does it matter? Like, what are you going to English accent? I had like, what's the point? Well, Tom Holland's in it. Is he going to have an English accent? I guess have no idea.
00:50:07
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You know what's interesting too? The dude, Cosmo Jarvis from Shogun. I was going to say, yeah. I didn't. I think I had that in my write-up, but then I didn't because there's just too many things in the montage, um the next sequence of our show here. But I thought it was weird. like Cosmo Jarvis is like kind of making it big with Shogun because Shogun such a popular TV show. And then he had like a scheduling conflict, and it's ah the dude from...
00:50:32
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I can't remember the name of it now. Damn it. The OC. Yeah. Logan Marshall Green. Yeah. He's not in it much. Logan Marshall Green. Right. Yeah. Logan Marshall Green, though, i feel like is best known for actually a movie he was just in.
00:50:44
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Wasn't there? He was in a Marvel movie or something. I don't know about maybe, but he was he was in a big um see film recently. he he played like a. I can't remember now. I'm losing my mind. But yeah, you're right. Upgrade was the movie I was thinking of. That's because he's this he's like the star in that.
00:51:00
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Yeah, it's crazy that this Cosmo Jarvis fellow left this movie. it's You're going to be in a Christopher Nolan movie. i know, like but maybe was such a small part, and the other part was a huge, because he was playing a main character, I think. Yeah, he is gearing up to star in the feature biopic Young Stalin about the Russian dictator. So yeah, maybe he's like the main actor for that.
00:51:21
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but like That's the reason to do that, but that's still crazy, because it's a Christopher Nolan movie. like Matt Damon came out of, he was like doing a temporary like sabbatical, Because his wife wanted him to take some time off. And then Christopher Nolan came a knocking for Oppenheimer. And he's like, okay.
00:51:36
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Because apparently he told the story that Matt Damon kept telling was that he told his wife that I'm going to take a sabbatical like you want. But if Christopher Nolan asks me to be in a movie, I'm going to do it. that That was the rule.
00:51:47
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That's what he said. And so then he did it. did Oppenheimer. That was a pretty big big part in Oppenheimer for Matt Damon. Not for Matt Damon, but like it was a big part in comparison to other parts in the movie.
00:51:58
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And then, yeah yeah, then he's doing this, the the Odyssey. And then isn't he doing something with Ben Affleck? They're writing and directing a movie? um out an r RIP, yeah, RIP, for Netflix. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's what I thought. Oh, sorry, they're not writing and directing. They're just starring in that one. That's just directed by somebody else. Oh, okay. That looks cool.
00:52:14
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But the Odyssey, he's literally playing Odysseus. Like, he's the main character for for this particular movie. um So I guess he didn't get that much time off. I guess. Yeah, no.
00:52:25
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It's cool. this coming It comes out next year. um Yeah, I love the subtlety of the trailer. I just think like that's really cool. like you just put You kind of whipped it together. don't know.
00:52:35
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I'm in. I'm in for every Christopher Nolan movie. We went to this movie and we saw Jurassic World Rebirth and we went to go see Superman with Ken. Yeah. ah Frequent moviegoer with us.
00:52:47
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Friend of ours. And Ken talked about after the Odyssey. I said before it came up, I'm like, the Odyssey is supposed to come up. And then it didn't happen. And they showed it the Ultra AVX thing. I'm like, I guess it's not here.
00:53:00
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Like, I was literally most excited about Jurassic World Rebirth because of the Odyssey. I'm not even joking you. yeah I literally was most excited about it because I knew it was coming um for the trailers before. And when it didn't happen, i was super disappointed. And then they showed it anyway.
00:53:13
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But when it when it aired, Ken... ken leaned over to me and he's like ah i I wonder like this can either go really wrong or really well because like the Odyssey is a pretty complex storyline there's like a lot going on and like could you can you make this into a movie that's like succinct enough like and it's a good question like this is interesting too risk Christopher Nolan like excels around these like these narrative tricks I always find like every movie almost that he's made except for maybe i don't know
00:53:45
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The one with like Robin Williams and Al Pacino, um Insomnia. and so I never watched that one. That one is like the most straight of the movies he's made. Other movies like – even Oppenheimer, that there's the narrative trick of the black and white and all that stuff.
00:54:00
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Really cool. Memento. Oh, Memento is like the the the most aggressive one. Tenet. Oh, Tenet. No, Tenet is the most aggressive one. Dude, I love Tenet, man. I love it, too.
00:54:11
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Yeah, I love it. love it, too. And it was even better the second time. I think because we also saw it within two weeks, twice. Yeah. Yeah, we watched it. Yeah, dude, we watched it so quick because theaters were open for a two-week period, and we went two times in that two weeks to watch that. Right.
00:54:25
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And we also love to support the theater industry. We thought, like, you know, this is a dying industry. It's having problems. COVID is hit, and it's it's bad. It's really bad. and and And Nolan was, like, very adamant. It has to be in theaters. It has to be in theaters. It has to be in theater theaters when Warner Brothers was trying to put things on HBO Max.
00:54:41
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And so I was like, you know what, Nolan? This was a movie, first of all, worth watching twice because you can understand it even better. Yeah. And also, I think you were – I think the story you tell is that you didn't – I really understand it that well. Yeah, no. I finished it the first time. I was I don't know. Like, am I too fucking stupid? was like, I don't know this is good.
00:55:00
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And then you watched the second time. like, oh, this is a masterpiece. Yeah. This is really, this is so good back and you understand also where the character should be because of the rewind time situation. It's so cool. I love that movie, but that's, he went the craziest with that. I guess, I guess he's went the most nuts with his narrative style in that movie. And then he kind of like really toned it down for Oppenheimer.
00:55:21
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Will he actually do anything for the Odyssey? That's the question. I don't know. I guess the Batman movies are a pretty straight storytelling as well. Yeah, that's another example of... Yeah, that's ah actually, that's a really good point. It's arguably the straightest.
00:55:35
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Yeah. Yeah. Even more than Insomnia, actually, to be honest, I think. I never watched Insomnia. That's like the one Christopher Nolan movie I did not watch. It's pretty cool. It's good acting performances from Robin Williams and Al Pacino. want to watch it just because Robin Williams. I love Robin Williams. You know the concept, like they're up north. I think they're in the Arctic.
00:55:51
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Yeah, they're in the Arctic. And they they can't. Al Pacino is like from the big city. He's like a city slicker cop. And there's like a serial killer up north or like a person who's murdering people or whatever. And he's got to go solve the crime because they don't have the staff.
00:56:04
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So they ask Al Pacino to go. But this is a time when there's only daylight. like Because the Arctic only has like really, really huge periods of daylight. And there's like an hour of darkness. And then they at the other part of the year, they have the opposite. They have only darkness. And actually, 30 Days of Night starring Josh Hartnett.
00:56:23
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Oh, is that what that's about? i think so, because it's like the vampires come out and it's like 30 days of night. and Cool. the vampires There's also like ah True Detective Night knight Country is the same way with... um like the the last, but the most latest season of True Detective.
00:56:37
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Oh, with... Who I think? Jodie Foster. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that that was a reverse. So it was all nighttime, and they're just kind of like going a little crazy because it's dark. But Al Pacino can't sleep because it's so bright.
00:56:49
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And so like he's going a little crazy for that reason in this movie, and he's trying to solve this crime. It's pretty cool. i and I like it a lot. But anyway. um Yeah, that's pretty much it for the trailers. It was pretty cool. And this is anything else that you remember that you want to talk about?
00:57:03
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That's the best part, Simon. I never remember anything. Okay. Is that a good part? Yeah. For the audience? I don't know. I don't Who's listening to this anyway? Let's be real.
00:57:14
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Except for maybe Ken, and I'm not even sure he's listening. um but But yeah, okay. Well, then that's it. That's it for our brisk, ah brisk quite quick bite news here. Let's move on now, Adrian, to a segment of our show.
00:57:27
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In which I... Oh, sorry. I completely messed that up. Now on to the montage. A sequence of our show in which I briefly present seven of the bi-week smaller news stories as Adrian delivers a brisk verdict.
00:57:39
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Number one. As announced on social media, the hit Steve Martin, Martin Short comedy series Only Murders in the Building has wrapped production on season five. Steve Martin Short.
00:57:51
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Yes. Number two, according to publication deadline, Wicked and Crazy Rich Asians director, John M. Chu, has been hired on to direct a Hot Wheels movie for Mattel and Warner Brothers.
00:58:04
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Oh, nice, dude. I think they're they're gonna it's gonna be as big as Barbie. Maybe. Number three, FX's Jeremy Allen White starring restaurant dramedy The Bear has been renewed for a fifth season.
00:58:18
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Hell yeah, it has. Four season. Real good. Number four. As announced by 20th Century Studios, the Meryl Streep-starring Devil Wears Prada film sequel has begun production and will premiere in 2026, 20 years after the original comedy. That's crazy. i never watched the original, but I do know the guy from Entourage isn't coming back for it.
00:58:40
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Okay, okay. Number five. As confirmed on social media, Evil Dead Rise director Lee Cronin has finished filming his upcoming 2026 horror film, The Mummy, for Studio Blumhouse, the first of the long-running franchise not to be distributed by Universal Studios.
00:58:59
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Oh, so this is like the mummy as in Brandon Fraser, Tom Cruise, the mummy. Yeah. Although those aren't related either, really. Yeah, but but it is the mummy. Yeah.
00:59:10
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Oh, cool. Adrian Sean Grenier. Grenier. This guy. that Oh, yeah. The main character. He's on Entourage, dude. I guess he's playing Mark Wahlberg in the Entourage, right? Isn't it about Mark Wahlberg, the show?
00:59:24
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Is Entourage about Mark Wahlberg? We'll get to that after the montage. We can look at it up. Number six. As announced on social media, the fifth and final season of Amazon Prime Video's hit superhero drama, The Boys has wrapped production.
00:59:39
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Cool. I'm excited. We'll watch that one, probably. Number seven. Apple TV Plus has renewed the Gary Oldman starring spy drama series Slow Horses for season seven ahead of its season five premiere, which comes out in October, I'm pretty sure. That's crazy, man. Like, they're really, um, they're really locking Gary Oldman down, eh? They're like, you can't leave.
01:00:02
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You're stuck with Apple. He's locking himself down. This is an amazing show. It's amazing. got I gotta watch it, dude. I gotta watch it. You know what they say An apple a day keeps the doctor away, and that's why he's making all these seasons.
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01:00:15
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All right. Sure. And a bonus number eight. Netflix has revealed that Ozark director Jason Bateman's upcoming drama series Black Rabbit will premiere on September 18th, 2025. The show follows two brothers, two brothers played by Jude Law and Jason Bateman, who own a nightclub together. But danger threatens the business when Bateman's characters' bad decisions begin to catch up with them.
01:00:42
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you were You were talking about where is this? It's here. It's soon. yeah Number 9. According to Sinners producer, Sev Ohanian, on the Screen Crush podcast, Oscar-winning costume designer Ruth Carter was able to utilize a warehouse full of costumes that she designed for Marvel's failed Blade movie for the background actors and director Ryan Coogler's horror-period drama Sinners.
01:01:10
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They were on a tight shooting schedule, were running out of time to build the necessary costumes, and Disney was apparently kind enough to sell the costumes to the Sinners production team at cost. And I threw this in here for fun because I thought it was awesome. Dude, we're not getting Blade.
01:01:25
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No. no But they were apparently going to do period a period thing for Blade at one point. And then they kind of, I think they scrapped the idea completely. So they just had a warehouse of costumes that they would never use. It's crazy, man. It's nuts.
01:01:38
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Anyway. wck And a bonus number 10. We're really killing it with the montage here. Bonus number 10. According to Deadline, the J.J. Abrams 1970s action comedy series Duster has been canceled by HBO after its first season. Damn, dude, I kind of forgot this came out. Josh Holloway deserves better.
01:01:56
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But at the same time, i don't want to support JJ Abrams. And that concludes the montage. All right. So here's the thing about Duster. I just want to say this because it's kind of on the topic here. Yeah. Duster is 92% of Rotten Tomatoes.
01:02:11
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I saw, i I didn't see the interview, but I read about an interview with Josh Holloway when he got this role in Duster. ah Even popcorn meter, very high again, 84%. But he was saying like, he said something along the lines of, i'm I must have thrown up ah penny over my shoulder and...
01:02:29
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and hit a a mirror that broke because I just can't get anything. Like he couldn't get any jobs. That's why he's not in anything. But he's such a leading good leading man in my opinion. Like I feel like he would be amazing.
01:02:42
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And I feel bad about not watching Duster for this very reason, but I'm just such a – counter fan of rise of skywalker and what jj abrams did with ski star wars as a whole and the laziness that had to he was his involvement in that is so atrocious that that's the reason i didn't watch duster and now i feel bad because i feel like josh holloway deserved this and this is a 92 percent of rotten tomatoes and nobody saw this it sucks it kind of sucks because josh holloway deserved better as you just said i completely agree with that it's funny that you said that
01:03:13
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I don't know if you said it because you saw that interview with him or not. no But I just said it because he deserves better because of after lost and after that one paintball episode of community. Right. Better.
01:03:25
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Yeah. Like he he's so good and lost. I'm shocked. Like the only thing I've seen him in after that, ex right. The community episode, but he's also in mission impossible for like five seconds. Fourth or fifth one ghost protocol.
01:03:37
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Ghost protocol. Yeah. It's sad. It's sad. He should be in more stuff. And like, I hope they pick him up. That was a leading role. Maybe he's being picky. I don't know why he's not being cast in more things. um But he's like, I'm telling my agent to look for stuff. I don't want to not have a job. Like ah he's looking to be in more things. It's not like he's trying to do it.
01:03:55
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I just thought the funny thing is like, he has such bad luck that he can't get anything. He threw a bad penny over his shoulder and hit a poor guy. Class mirror. Dude, it's crazy. You're war right. Mark Wahlberg.
01:04:06
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Yeah. So according to Mark Wahlberg, Entourage was initially conceived when his assistant asked if he could film Wahlberg and his friends calling them hilarious, blah, bla blah, blah, blah. um To be more satirical of the Hollywood lifestyle, a fictional approach was chosen rather than a straight documentary in order to keep content light and avoid directly depicting Wahlberg's violent past.
01:04:26
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Vincent Chase, who was who's played by Adrian Grenier, was envisioned to be more similar to Wahlberg, but it was decided that some of his and his friends' activities, particularly some elements of their criminal past, would not work well on television.
01:04:39
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A Lighter Approach was subsequently decided upon. That's crazy, dude. Did you watch Entourage? Yeah. That's even weirder that you didn't know that. Yeah, watch I watched all of Entourage. didn't Entourage. I just know that as a fact.
01:04:50
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Yeah. I but was interested in it because of that, potentially, but I had never watched the show. I've watched like one episode. great. Oh, it's not good. It's an HBO show. I liked it. Oh, it's not on HBO. It's Star Wars.
01:05:01
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Am I wrong? No, is it on HBO? No, it is HBO. It is HBO. Yeah, no, I watched it. I watched it when I was young. I liked it when I was young, but it's also like- they all kind of suck yeah yeah but you don't like that that's the funny thing you don't like when that's all the characters kind of suck yeah it is a comedy so you could like it then yeah but they just like the studio cheating on there yeah that's good shit that's good shit but the people but the studio is like on another level of quality compared to entourage it's shot really well yeah that's yeah let's be fucking real i just don't have that affliction you have you know
01:05:35
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I'm just not like if I don't like any of the characters, I don't want to watch the thing. Yeah. I mean, it's like, I don't know what that is. i just need i need someone to be like have redeeming qualities. Unless again, it's a comedy where you're like, man, this guy fucking sucks, but it's funny.
01:05:48
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You know? Yeah. Redeeming qualities. yeah yeah I think, i think maybe what it is on a rooting person, like rooted perspective is like the root. And I agree with this aspect. If this is true, is that every character has to have,
01:05:59
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relatable human elements yeah i need to be able to you need to be grounded in some way that's why like supernatural characters and some things i'm like what you pull like calm it down like i gotta be able to relate to these people there's just like wackos like that's not useful yeah there's gotta be nuance in every character yeah sure even like um And we can dive into what we've been watching. You want to dive into what we've been watching? Sure. Yeah, do it up.
01:06:23
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So I'll talk about it because I've been I talked about last ah episode, but I've
Character Depth in Popular Shows
01:06:29
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rewatching you. Me? Yeah, dude. You are a classic. We're never going to stop doing that. Cute.
01:06:35
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Good stuff. It's good stuff. um But yeah, I've been rewatching you because I haven't watched the last season, but I watched the first four. and My fiance has never watched it before. So we're we're watching it together. She's loving it.
01:06:45
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I'm loving it, dude. That show is so good and it still holds up. Like, yeah, season two. Immaculate. Honestly, some of the best TV. I love season two so much. Season three, I really like as well. But I think I mentioned it last week where or last episode where I was like, I i love season two and three.
01:07:04
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I'm misremembering because like rewatching season three, I remember like the specific point where I was like, i don't like this as much anymore. And rewatching it, knowing where the story goes, it doesn't bother me as much.
01:07:14
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My fiance still really likes it. But I remember the thoughts I had when watching it. I'm like, oh, I don't like this. I don't want it to go this direction, but now that I just know the direction it goes, OK with it. OK.
01:07:26
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But you as a prime example of having characters that initially maybe really suck or seem like they're really good people, And they they have a lot more nuance to them. So like the characters that really suck will have these like moments where like, oh, actually, like they care about their friends or like they care about this person and we'll do anything for them. And like, yeah, there's these like moments of like where you see like positivity and even the worst people.
01:07:54
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Yeah, you like every human person has got like a like a vast experience and like various emotions and they if you can relate to them because yeah you can relate to everyone theoretically, again, even a serial killer theoretically, and that's their complete psychopath.
01:08:09
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And that's a bit different. But thats yeah, that's what they do really well with Joe Goldberg. Yeah. i think and one ah one of my favorite things about the show is that you're, again, you're following Joe Goldberg, who's a crazy person. He's fucked. he's He does bad things consistently.
01:08:23
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yeah But the show, i think you mentioned this last up episode, it he narrates the entire show. Right. Which is like you're in his head, which is strange. Exactly. And you're listening to him rationalize every single decision he's making.
01:08:35
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So ask the viewer, you can be like, I can see where he's coming from. Yeah, sure. but He's like yeah like, he'll kill someone and like yeah do something. But he's like talking about like, I had to do this because if I didn't do this, this is what could have happened. It could have affected, you you're the person I'm trying to protect life negatively. And you're like, yeah.
01:08:54
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that tracks. But it's like, no, it doesn't. He sucks, dude. But it's, it's so fun. This show is so fun. And I forgot how much of a comedy it it is. Like, I feel like it's ah it's a comedy first in a lot of ways.
01:09:06
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It was just like a really cool, like dramatic, like, story that's playing out. And um yeah, i I really love this show. I forgot like how good it was and I'm glad that I'm rewatching it.
01:09:19
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um And again, season two of this show is just like top tier stuff. I love Love Quinn as a character. Like she's a my favorite character in the show. And it was like even back then. And it's just, it's so cool to see where these characters go and how they play off of each other.
01:09:35
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Whether it's, you know, even like the tertiary cast that gets brought in. Everyone is three-dimensional, which is really nice. Um, I think the first season is like arguably the only season where the, the side characters seem a little bit one dimensional, but even those characters will have these like tiny moments where it's like, Oh, it adds like an extra layer to them.
01:09:55
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But yeah, I really love the show. Um, get to keep on watching it. Hopefully we can finish it in the next, you know, couple of weeks. Um, And kind of take it from there. Another thing though, that I've been watching another great show with human characters that have a lot of nuance them.
01:10:09
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I finished the bear season four. Nice dude. So good. I don't understand why critics don't like this as much as season three, hell even as much as season one, a season two is immaculate, but this season is so good.
01:10:25
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Adds much needed levity to the show. Characters are growing. Characters are evolving. There is one episode in particular this season. Again, it's it reminds me of like the ah the the Christmas dinner episode oh in season two.
01:10:40
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um The cast in the show is unbelievable. So the bear, it follows like ah Jeremy Allen White. He's technically the main character, Carmi, who goes back home after his brother's suicide and takes over as like sandwich shop like his brother sandwich shop but again he's like a professionally trained chef and he wants to do more with it and as the seasons progress he does more with it but again it's like this central cast of characters and he wants to keep everyone that was at the sandwich shop with him as he is growing and evolving this this restaurant um and season four kind of bring thing brings things back because season three again it was it was all anxiety all stress all just go go go without any sort of
01:11:22
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character growth and yeah watching this season as, as really made me acknowledge that more. Cause I really liked season three when I watched it, but watching season four now, it's like, Oh man. Yeah. Like they really stayed still.
01:11:34
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And I think it's kind of a shame that they did that. It's almost strange that this reviewed that's reviewed as high as it is. Like it's not bad. It's great, but it's just like, no, I don't know. There was some really, like really good flashback episodes in that season, yeah but I don't know.
01:11:48
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Yeah, i'm hope I'm excited to watch it because you've been raving about it. Yeah, dude. Much more than the critics are. so it's It's funny as hell, to like There's some amazing jokes spread throughout it. and ah like ah yeah Honestly, the entire cast, I mentioned Jeremy Allen White, but like even Moss, Backrack, Ayo Edebiri, Edebiri,
01:12:10
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ah ao to barrry um like edti beri um Amazing, dude. Like they're they're so good. And it's the coolest part about this show as well as like there. And this goes to show for like season two.
01:12:22
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um like pretty much from season two on is they have huge cameos in the show, like actors that you would not expect in a million years to be a part of ah a series, but they're in it.
01:12:34
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And, you know, they're bringing in this this amazing acting talent working alongside these characters that have fully embodied the characters that they play, like these actors that have fully embodied the characters that they play. And they all work together and it doesn't take you out of it.
01:12:52
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No, at all it's remarkable. don't know what that's about. Yeah. It's really good. It's really cool. It's such a good show. Yeah. crazy I really, really love it. And um I'm glad that I watched season four. I'm glad that it's been renewed for season five.
01:13:07
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um I highly, highly recommend this. um Yeah, really good stuff. And the final thing that I watched before we talk about the joint stuff, or I guess before you talk about what you watched, I watched the first episode of Squid Game season three, the final season.
01:13:21
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Yeah, ah really good. Really good so far. ah Great first episode back. I think it was just the first episode I watched. Yeah, really good so far. I'm excited to watch the rest of the season. um Just haven't found all the time to to sit down and watch it. You know, I'll watch it while i'm eating.
01:13:38
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but pretty much only eating a alone because my fiance doesn't watch it. And realistically, if I have some downtime, I want to be playing Death Stranding, man. I want to be building some fucking roads, dude. I want to building some zip lines.
01:13:50
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I want to be building some monorails, man. I want to um to be delivering packages, brother. It's good stuff. Death Stranding, audience, says the Hideo Kojima-directed video game on PlayStation in which Norman Reedus plays a deliverer of packages in the Apocalypse.
01:14:06
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was like my announcer voice. Who the fuck was Who said that? The Oscars. they you know they they like When somebody walk up walks up to so the stage to get an award, they're like, you know this is the second award for Tom Cruise. I don't know.
01:14:19
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Has Tom Cruise won anything? I don't know. look. wow let's look what have you watched though i'm gonna check out tom cruise oscars yeah for sure uh i watched a few things i've been watching and or still i watched episode 10 what a crazy good episode oh my god oh gotta watch episode 10 or episode 9 i'm confused eight um not eight eight was also great dude that's the last episode i watched i gotta get oh i'm ahead of you yeah oh there's an episode of the senate Oh, no, I haven't watched that yet. That is like literally. chris So I'm like, this is like really ramping up here. i only have three episodes left. No, I watched nine. Sorry. I've got 10, 11, 12 left. Okay.
01:14:56
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So it's crazy good. Yeah, then you're one episode ahead of me. Dude. episode eight was fucking nuts, dude. Oh, no i know what you're talking about. That episode was crazy. And then the next episode, yeah, yeah, I don't want to review anything.
01:15:07
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It's so good. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, 8. 8 is really crazy good. It's like this show is like the this is my favorite show of the year for sure that I've watched this year. I'm like savoring every moment of it and I'm taking advantage of it watching Star like playing my Star Wars Outlaws on PlayStation 8.
01:15:23
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And like really, like, I don't know. I'm going to be really sad when it's over. Cause like, I just want more Star Wars content like this, like taking unique big swings, making like actual statements and like making these characters complete. Speaking of three dimensional characters, like, come on. Like you just, you, this is just good storytelling again. Forget it. Like ah if an audience member is listening to me that you're like, yeah, I'm sure this is good. Oh, you nerd. You're watching Star Wars.
01:15:47
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This is just literally great TV. It is. I'm hoping it really gets some awards love. yeah for the Emmys. i'm ah I'm really hoping it does, but we'll see. I don't know. discuss We'll find out. Maybe they'll get they'll get typecast as not awards worthy because it's Star Wars, but I really do think it deserves a win.
01:16:05
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I would lose it. um I would lose it. um Interesting thing, again, connected to Andor, there's like a rumor going around that Adria Ariona, who plays Vix,
01:16:17
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That she is apparently, again, big rumor, might be Wonder Woman in the DCU. Yeah, but I think it was basically dispelled by James Gunn. I don't know. He's like, yeah, she would be a good Wonder Woman. He said on social media.
01:16:31
Speaker
i feel like that makes it seem like she's not it. They didn't cast it yet. So like she might be, but I feel like that's like a ways out. So it's like that. Yeah, she could be great. Because Adriana, she's in a James Gunn movie.
01:16:46
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she was That was one of the first big movies she was in. What was it called? The Something Project. It was like the experiment. No, Belko Experiment. yeah um mean she's in that that was one of the big movies that she was in to start like that's almost the start of her career and she she says something like along the lines of like oh i love james gunn because he gave him my start in some capacity which is really cool yeah like she just started to blow up like not that long ago really it's really and or season one belco experiment she was in that movie recently with glenn powell she's now and gonna be in everything she's gonna watch hitman with glenn powell in her hitman yeah good so good good that was a fucking sick movie big good stuff yeah anyway
01:17:23
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What else you watch? um So I also watched, I finished and i it was definitely season two. I don't know why I said it was season three last time we recorded. and by Season two of Invincible. um Very good.
01:17:35
Speaker
It's funny. I didn't really like the beginning of the season and it just, it felt like a slog for me to get through. I don't know why. Maybe it's just because again, I watched so many shows month with my fiance. This isn't one of them. And like, I have to play, I either, have to I'm playing either, I'm either playing a game or I'm watching a show on the side and the shows on the side just don't get a lot of love because my fiance just watches everything with me anyway. Like all the big, like major shows. so And I just really liked this show. I think it's really emotional. The characters speaking of again, three dimensional characters again, this really like They're really like fleshed out characters, and they feel like these relationship relationships between these characters, like Mark's relationship with his girlfriend at the time, is very like heartfelt. There's like tears you know rolling down my face at times. It's pretty good.
01:18:14
Speaker
and like Really well told. i also really love Seth Rogen's character. And I think that... Yeah, Alan and JK, JK Simmons is excellent as he always is in everything he's ever in. He's his voice is so man. He's just like, what a compelling dude, eh?
01:18:29
Speaker
He's just like, he's really he's gravitating. He's he's so he's got us such gravitas. He's great. He does. But yeah, that's awesome. um And then I segued on purpose like this. I also watched another and ah animated animated show on purpose because I wanted to get ready for Superman. And it's the first ah DCU property, James Gunn's first DCU property, Creature Commandos.
01:18:50
Speaker
Nice. Where every second character in the DCU is Sean Gunn. ah And... He does play two characters in that show and he is character in the live action. What's his name? What's the guy's name? Maxwell Lord. Maxwell Lord, right. Who was played by Pedro Pascal in the other DC universe. Oh yeah.
01:19:09
Speaker
anyway I didn't watch that Wonder Woman movie. That was the Wonder Woman. didn't either. Yeah. The second Wonder Woman movie. lady You know what's funny about that is that the trailers look really good for that. And then the reviews came out and then it was not good. And then I watch it.
01:19:21
Speaker
Pedro Pascal has been around. It gets crazy. In the last 10 years, he's just completely blown up. He's entered the stratosphere. People love the guy so much. It's crazy. It's awesome. It's awesome good. Good for him.
01:19:33
Speaker
But anyway, um but he's no longer in the DCU. I'm so sorry. That was the DCEU. Yeah. Whatever. Whatever. But yeah, Creature Commandos is excellent. Speaking of, again, really emotional storytelling, again, three-dimensional characters. Is everything we're going to talk about today have three-dimensional characters?
01:19:54
Speaker
No, is the answer to that question. Well, technically, yes. Because we watched one of these or both of these movies that we're talk about it with 3D glasses on. I would even hardly call that 3D. Is it really three d i don't i don't I don't know. That's that's a stretch.
01:20:09
Speaker
Creature Commandos is really good. It's got slick writing, really great music. I love the theme song. It was in my head for literally days as I was watching it slowly over time. Actually, I watched it pretty rapidly. Each of the characters, like the Commandos, the Creature Commandos, like the monsters that are a part of this team run by Rick Flagg Sr., who's then...
01:20:27
Speaker
and First of all, all the actors who are like voicing roles in this animated TV show are literally going to have counterparts theoretically, theoretically in the overall DCU live action.
01:20:39
Speaker
like I love that tie in. But the basic premise of this is there's ah it's just like the Suicide Squad, essentially, except they're monsters. There's monsters run by Rick Flagg, senior instead of Rick Flagg, junior, who is played by um damn it, Joel, Joel Kinnaman. Thank you. Yeah, that was very useful.
01:20:57
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Joel Kinnaman, who's great. I love Joel Kinnaman. Yeah, anyway. And Rick Flag Sr., who's played by Frank Grillo, is also in Superman. He's in the trailer for Superman as well.
01:21:11
Speaker
The one thing, sorry to cut you off there. doesn't look like him. He doesn't have gray hair. What's up with that? Yeah, don't they dye his hair gray? I don't know. i don't know. I thought that was a bit weird.
01:21:23
Speaker
That's really the only thing. Yeah, and then the other thing is like I feel like he only wears the same thing every single episode of Creature Commandos, but he does go home and change at one point like he would have.
James Gunn's Superman Movie: Expectations & Tone
01:21:33
Speaker
is it What is he, Mickey Mouse? like And then in the in the in in superman and Superman, he's not wearing that. I'm like, yeah yeah I think you would have worn that because your son also wore the same thing. What do you like, a weird family – family attire you all wear a uniform it's strange i thought that was weird that they just didn't make him wear it and that when i saw him in the trailer again after watching creature commandos i'm like that's weird why isn't he wearing the yellow shirt the yellow shirt's like an iconic rick flag senior or junior outfit i don't know that seems strange to me
01:22:07
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um But anyway, i'm I'm curious to see how they tie in again these characters into the greater DCU. But I really think that the emotional storytelling especially is funny with Weasel.
01:22:18
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ah The Weasel episode was so so literally heartfelt. The whole thing was heartfelt the whole way through because they do these like really great flashbacks in the seven episodes of the TV show.
01:22:29
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Really bite-sized episodes. You know what I really like too? sorry, I'm on a tangent. I feel you want to jump in, but I'll just say this. These episodes are very short and they're the perfect length. And I love how short they are.
01:22:40
Speaker
Like 22 minutes is really, really, it's really easy to digest it. Like I going from invincible to this, there's something really refreshing to one run these 22 minute episodes. As much as I kind of like longer episodes at times, I feel like it's kind of nice to have the shorter episodes. And then see each of these little tiny pieces of story like conclude because each of the little arcs concludes in each episode which is like really brilliant writing overall yeah anyway it's also very violent it's rated r like basically it's a rated mma show so yeah impressive yeah and uh i mean like it's the same thing like uh that that like like the tagline for the suicide squad is the same like don't get too attached like it it
01:23:20
Speaker
That's the same thing with creature. There's no tagline here for that here, but it is that you should, you should Yeah. Yeah. It's really cool. Like, yeah. I'm glad that you watched it, dude. You know, it's funny. Like I'm getting like a Alan Tudyk overload to like Alan Tudyk.
01:23:36
Speaker
He's also playing multiple characters. yeah voice Yeah, he voiced. um Yeah, but Sean guns even more. like Yeah. Because he's literally playing himself, too. i Because it's weird when you watch the Dr. Foss first centered episode. he it looks like Alan Tudyk. When they're throwing the various like aspects of this character over time.
01:23:57
Speaker
I'm like, oh, that's pretty neat. I don't know. I love him. Honestly, I think Alan Tudyk is like, I don't know. i wouldn't say underrated, but maybe he is underrated. Alan Tudyk and Nathan Fillion are good friends in real life, and they're friends with James Gunn. I'm pretty sure both of them.
01:24:11
Speaker
ah Nathan Fillion apparently is in every single James Gunn know if you know that. He's in every movie. every I remember him in Guardians 3. He's in Guardians 1 as well as like a monster, and he's in Guardians 2 as something as well. He's in the prison in 1.
01:24:27
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uh, the beginning of the movie. Um, and then, and he's in slither. I'm fairly certain he's in, he's in super for sure. ah yeah, he's, a he's in, he's not always in a big part in Superman. He's actually one of the bigger parts that he's been in the James gun movie.
01:24:42
Speaker
I really liked Nathan brilliant. and And again, Alan Tudyk has just got this comedic timing that is just excellent. Like honestly, and I love Alan Tudyk in like rogue one as an example,
01:24:54
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I think he plays a great robot in general. Yeah, he's got a really good vocal range, Alan Tudyk. He does. not It's not like you can pick him out from a... like If you hear his voice, it's not like, oh, that's Alan Tudyk. He does a really good job adjusting his voice accordingly yeah based on the character that he's playing.
01:25:10
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Because you could tell me K2SO... and Dr. Phosphorus are voiced by the same person, but it doesn't sound like it. Yeah. And he's like Superman, which is what you were mentioning. Exactly.
01:25:22
Speaker
But like, yeah. And he's King Candy. Oh, yeah. King Candy. Oh, no. We're right back. and Yeah.
01:25:34
Speaker
it's Good stuff. Cool. But yeah. Yeah, no, I really like Alan T. Honestly, he's probably the most the actor that probably nobody knows that I like the most. like that they you eyes Like, if I told someone, like, oh, really like Alan Tudyk, they'd be looking at me like, what are you talking about? and I like Brad Pitt.
01:25:49
Speaker
You know what i mean? Yeah. That's kind of the the reaction. But, yeah, I really like Bradley Pitt. Same with Nathan Fillion. They're both great. But, anyway. um Yeah. Really awesome and really good way to jump into Superman. do you want to do Superman first? do you want yeah, yeah.
01:26:02
Speaker
Okay, let's do Superman. Because we're on the topic anyways. Let's just do – we're going – We can spoil it at a certain point. We're not going spoil it here because that we're not spoiling it, but we're going do lead-in to the spoiler cast that we will not have on this episode 114. Okay. But that the audience will...
01:26:19
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You'll see if they want watch it separately. I do. I'll do it. We'll do it later on. But again, episode 114 of the podcast, the list the thing you're listening to now, audience, will not have spoilers. Do not worry. We do not spoil small anything on this podcast except for things that are spoiled in the trailer because I think that's fair game.
01:26:35
Speaker
Yeah. um But yeah, let's get on with it then. Superman. Let's take a look a closer look, Adrian, at Superman, 2025 Superman. the twenty twenty five superman because there's another movie called Superman from years ago that this is not.
01:26:48
Speaker
But this is directed by James Gunn and written by James Gunn. And this guy is like a powerhouse. Honestly, man, speaking of like ah people we we talked about that are really you know inundated with work, like Neil Druckmann, this guy must be like – he's dealing with a lot of things, trying to run a universe, and then also writing and directing this movie.
01:27:08
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This stars David Cornswit as Superman, who's a not an unknown actor because he's in a few things, quite a few things, but he's mostly in side parts and a lot of the things that he's in for the most part.
01:27:19
Speaker
But I think that David Cornswit killed it. I think ah Rachel Brosnahan playing Lois Lane killed it. I think Nathan Fillion, speaking of Nathan Fillion. Killed it. And he's in it a lot more than I expected him to be.
01:27:32
Speaker
ah yeah But I don't know. I think like overall the cast is great. I think the tone is interesting. ah James Gunn recently said that that this universe largely will be a different tone in every piece of like every property, whether it be the Lanterns TV show or another movie like the Supergirl movie going forward.
01:27:53
Speaker
So i'm I'm super curious how – how things will go. Cause we, we've seen what happened to the MCU and like the late game MCU after end game has kind of not been as steady going. And it was such on a, such a good role. And I really personally, based on seeing this movie, I'm hoping that,
01:28:12
Speaker
the rest of the DCU can follow this trend because I really liked Superman. I thought it was excellent. And I recommend anyone who's interested remotely in Superman to go see this. Yeah. um But yeah, that's what, those are my kind of high level thoughts on it.
01:28:26
Speaker
Oh, I also love the fact that the Superman is such a square. i think I just, thought I love it. I love the music choices. He's just like a, yeah, it's great. Sorry. I'll throw it to you. What did you think overall?
01:28:36
Speaker
No, man. Yeah. Like I agree with everything he said. I think, The cast is phenomenal. I want to shout out, because you didn't mention him. I might be mispronouncing his name. Eddie Githeggi.
01:28:48
Speaker
don't know how you how do you pronounce his name. I'm probably saying it wrong. But he plays Mr. Terrific in this movie. Oh, yeah. So good. think he's the standout, actually. He was my favorite character in this movie, funnily enough. um I think he adds, like, there's this cool factor with him, but also adds a lot of comedy throughout the movie.
01:29:05
Speaker
um I only know this guy... um from, uh, or at least like from what I remember him from was he's in X-Men first class. He's like one of the kids in X-Men first class. So it's kind of crazy to see him come back, I guess, why like 15 years later, 14, 13 years later.
01:29:21
Speaker
And now the DCU and playing this like major role in the Superman movie. Really good. Isabella Merced also in it, uh, as hot girl. Um, yeah yeah. Again, we talked about her quite a bit because of, uh, last season two, but, um, Eddie, uh, got,
01:29:39
Speaker
get tegy i think you pronounce it i'm pretty sure that's his name but he he's he's in um he's in for all mankind in a pretty huge role and he's excellent in it excellent i've seen him in something else before that as well but that's the most prominent role because that's many episodes any tv show really that you see like jeremy allen white i feel like i know really well now because we've seen so many episodes with him same with like um diego luna like i i don't see diego luna in that many things but then you see him in like that many episodes of andor and it's crazy to think that diego luna is in star wars more than harrison ford you know what i'm saying kind of crazy whoa yeah that's good one and mark hamill to be fair oh it's just if you're on a tv show for that many hours you're just you're technically in the show you're in the universe more yeah it's just the way it works but
01:30:29
Speaker
But um yeah, I don't know. This movie is really good. I think it has a very balanced tone as well. Like it's not it's not like a ha-ha comedy, but there's a lot of jokes spread out throughout.
01:30:40
Speaker
It's not dark and dire like the Zack Snyder movies, which again – Certainly not. like i love Batman V Superman. I think it's great. You know, I like Man of Steel. um I like Zack Snyder's Justice League, but like this is very different in tone.
01:30:54
Speaker
So if that's what you're hoping for, you're not going to get it. um Simply we put, but there are dark moments. It's not like i think James Gunn is a like a master of balancing tone in in his movies. Guardians 3, I think, is is is actually his best example of that, where it can be very sad, but also very funny and very heartfelt.
01:31:13
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yeah And I think I personally think this is a little bit of a regression in comparison to guardians three. Um, but that's not necessarily like a super bad thing. I still say think this is very, very good.
01:31:26
Speaker
It's different. It's not the same tone, but again, I don't think it says like, it doesn't go to the heights or the extremes as guardian does with the emotions that you feel. I think this is actually a relatively safe movie. Personally, it does a lot of interesting things, um,
01:31:40
Speaker
But it, funnily enough, kind of follows the original Marvel formula where the hero fights a very similar villain to them at the end. And that's kind of the setup. mean, part of the Marvel formula, though, that you...
01:31:58
Speaker
Yeah, actually, yeah. No, it is. It's funny. The movie overall is kind of a Marvel formula. and Yeah. They don't do like an origin story, which is cool. Like this starts right away. You know that right right from the get-go, which is cool.
01:32:09
Speaker
Like they just like they they skip a lot of the parts like the Man of Steel didn't skip, yeah I guess, which is cool. But yeah, you're right. In some way, we can talk about it when we get into spoilers, but let's be careful about ah but let's tread lightly on this yeah course topic. Yeah, of course.
01:32:23
Speaker
It is ah and the The cool part about this is this feels like a lived-in existing universe. Like, this universe has existed for for a long time, and it kind of throws you in. So it's interesting. Star Wars-like in that way. Like, the original Star Wars in that way. Like, you you get thrown in in a more deliberate way, and it's like not like...
01:32:40
Speaker
The thing and that I love about it is how much detail and thought James Gunn clearly put into it. And one of the things that I think represents this the most is what MCU is screwing up the most, is the power metrics.
01:32:52
Speaker
Figuring out where one hero or one character or one monster is more powerful than the other heroes in the in the list. Figuring out where their powers come from, trying to define those elements of what makes...
01:33:06
Speaker
characters fighting each other, one would win over over the other. That is super important. And I don't think they failed at all in this. And I think that's a detail orientation that James Gunn brings to this. I really, this is why I think it sets the tone for the DCU is that I hope he just brings that level of detail.
01:33:22
Speaker
Like, I hope he's got a room somewhere where he had got a power hierarchy that he's not going to like adjust. Like, he's not going to just like have a director come in and say, you know what? I want Clayface to just be more powerful than Superman now.
01:33:35
Speaker
Like, no, He's not. i talk don't i Don't you mean Black Adam? Because the hierarchy of the DC universe is about to change, man. When the rock showed ah Yeah, right.
01:33:46
Speaker
It's Black Adam. but What a good movie that was. It's crazy. Crazy. What a shit show. Anyways, we're on to bigger and better things.
01:33:57
Speaker
um In regards to the special effects in this movie, I think they're really good. I think... It doesn't really take you out of it. There were a couple moments with Crypto in in particular, the dog. Like it's it's a CGI dog, but he looks really good. i kind of do wish that at least sometimes they had a real dog there.
01:34:16
Speaker
Yeah, you should put that dog in a harness. You know what i'm saying? Yeah, dude. Just fucking can do that. make Make this cute dog. Because there's a lot of cute scenes with, um you know, it's in the trailer, but like Crypto lying on on Superman and like looking at his face. I'm like, this is really cute, but I kind of wish it was just a real dog.
01:34:33
Speaker
Like at those moments, obviously you can't have a dog fucking flying around, rip, you know, throwing people about in like a 780 twirl or whatever, 720 twirl, a twirl, multiple twirls.
01:34:47
Speaker
But you could do something. You do something. Yeah.
01:34:53
Speaker
Yeah, I think music really good as well. Sound design really good as well. For sure. Sorry. Sorry. Please go ahead. I interrupted. No, but that's a great. i would agree We could talk about music. Yeah, I think like the the score is really good. I think that the pulling in the original Superman score like John Williams score.
01:35:09
Speaker
And then yeah in using that was really, really great. And we saw obviously saw that in the trailer, so we knew that was coming. um That's awesome. But then obviously, James Gunn's signature style, he loves music, clearly, and he loves various artists and not just using a score like a composer to make the music for his movies, but using...
01:35:28
Speaker
using music in a grander way. And there's one scene in particular in about the middle point of the movie with one particular character that I thought was just like awesome. And there's lots of moments in the movie where he uses music and like, he does this in guardians as well, where he uses music and like fight sequences, like fight choreography that think is just really, really great in general.
01:35:48
Speaker
And it's like the, the, the deep cut choices he makes to the songs he chooses or the bands he references in the movie ah in his movies in general are really great and they make these these songs popular as it has with guardians certainly over the years like with volume one especially like how like like uh hooked on a feeling is such a like a song that everyone like thinks about more than i had ever heard before that movie came out there's no way that that was as popular as it was maybe it was popular back then when it came out
01:36:21
Speaker
in the eighties, but not like now it's again, it got a resurgence in a way. It's almost like when stranger things had that, uh, on a hill song, yeah running up the hill. Yeah. Running up the hill. Yeah. Yeah. That was a, obviously resurgence of the song, but yeah, he just does a great job with that.
01:36:35
Speaker
Um, it's awesome. Like James Gunn's kind of a hipster, but in like the, the, the actual term hipster, as opposed to the guy who's just wearing like a monocle. and like you know weird clothing like he's actually a he kind of sets trends in some capacity i find it's really good i'm i ah yeah i really love it the the stylization the stylization overall though even in like the fight choreography and like the again it's all about the devils on the details type situation which i really appreciate and the thing i think you didn't mention this guy yet but nicholas holt was just amazing i think he was excellent like he was such a good choice for luther
01:37:13
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One of the great things about this as well is like Lex Luthor is such an intelligent character. I'll just leave it at that. Like I think that – James Gunn knows what these characters are about and he understands them in a fundamental way.
01:37:30
Speaker
And that's what makes this work in a superhero movie. This is like the almost the number one thing that Marvel needs to get right right now and they're failing. and And James Gunn came out of the gate swinging and he knew even in Creature Commandos, he he knew what the characters, the powerma the power hierarchy, I should just start calling it the power hierarchy. It's a better term than power metrics.
01:37:51
Speaker
Power metrics sounds like some kind of ah ah situation with like your hydro bill or something. So, but yeah, I feel like creature commandos, like does the same way. You have a bunch of characters that have very distinct power sets and to actually show where some would beat others, I think is super important.
01:38:09
Speaker
And I think they understand that he completely understands it here. and But yeah, I think overall, what you saying before about James Gunn having like always bringing heart to his movies. This is exactly what he did here. And I think again, the way David Cornswept plays this character in such a, again, he's a, he's kind of a,
01:38:28
Speaker
he's he's he i don't know he's a pretty straight dude you know he's he's got it like not straight as in like well i mean he is straight sexually as well with and him and his that's gonna be a spoiler cool yourself what do mean in the trailers they're making out dude him and rachel brosnahan you never know he could be bi he could be bi that's you don't know yeah there is actually a scene where uh never mind i don't want to talk about it Yeah, right.
01:38:54
Speaker
But yeah, okay, cool. Anything else you want to add before we jump slip into ah slip into trailers so let slip into spoilers for a brief time? um Yeah, I mean, again, like yeah I just briefly touched on it. I got to stop doing that. Slip into spoilers only for the the the people watching a closer look. But yeah, we're not but not going to spoil it here.
01:39:16
Speaker
um Again, ah David Cornswit and Rachel Brosnahan, their chemistry was palpable. I thought they... Really great how they how well they play off each other. There's like this... Their relationship in the movie seems like a real relationship. It's complicated. It's not all roses.
01:39:31
Speaker
Yeah. But there's like... I want to see more of them though. Maybe that's my criticism that. Yeah, again, I don't want to get into... I don't want to get into too much because it's maybe that's a spoiler time conversation. But that you're right. That was really great.
01:39:42
Speaker
They're yeah're awesome. their're their whole Their chemistry is fantastic. You're... Yeah. ah Yeah. I think they, they, they do good stuff. I think Jimmy Olsen as a character in this movie, I don't think we see much of him in the trailer. He's played by Skylar Gisondo. Yeah.
01:39:55
Speaker
um i I haven't seen this guy in too many things. Like I think most recently I saw him in the video game, the quarry made by like super massive. Like I think he's like one of the characters in that, but I like Jimmy Olsen's like portrayal in this.
01:40:08
Speaker
I'm not a huge Superman guy. I'll be honest with you. Like I didn't, I never even watched like the original Christopher Reeve movies. I don't think maybe in passing, I've watched a few episodes of small bill here and there, but again, like I'm, I'm not much of a comic book reader in regards to that, but I think this was a really great jumping off point for this DC universe. It gets me excited about more to come. And um yeah, man, this is awesome. if If this is how the DCU starts, i'm I'm curious to see where it's going to go.
01:40:37
Speaker
I liked it. I liked it a lot. I think this was really good. But let's move on now. adrian jurassic world rebirth simon dinos coming together yeah the d-rex baby yeah the the the durex am i right durex fucking big ass head looking ass motherfucker the the goddamn uh the thing from star wars looking ass thing rancor yeah rancor dude it's very star wars coded in some aspects there's a lot of references in this film ah like jurassic world rebirth yeah
01:41:10
Speaker
did we say Did you say Jurassic World Rebirth? I did, yeah. I just had to remember if I did. so i just wanted reiterate. thought did, but then you looked like you were confused. So was like, okay, good. Yeah, Jurassic World Rebirth, he's kind of it's very referential. And I think Gareth Edwards, the director, ah references a lot of old old jurassic world Jurassic Park movies.
01:41:30
Speaker
Yeah. In the process of making this. Yeah. Sure. um And yeah, I mean, this movie, I just give a brief description. it it takes place after Jurassic World Dominion.
01:41:43
Speaker
it the the The world is already filled with dinosaurs. ah so Not really. but Not really because it's not really done well. It's the opposite of Superman in that regard. They didn't understand the world building assignment.
01:41:58
Speaker
Well, they understood it. They just wrote a line of dialogue at the start of the movie to retcon what happened at the end of the last movie. But they never did it well, though. Let's be real. Dominion is the greatest sin. That's the greatest sin of Dominion, actually.
Jurassic World Rebirth: Plot & Critique
01:42:10
Speaker
That's the greatest problem in Dress. that big, big, big, what was it? Big cicadas or whatever? What what were those things? Locusts? I don't know. Locusts are taking over the planet. Not dinosaurs, just big bugs. Anyway.
01:42:20
Speaker
The premise of this is that Scarlett Johansson's mercenary character is going on a journey and she's assembling a... Well, dude played by... A rich dude played by Rupert Friend is assembling a team.
01:42:33
Speaker
That includes rob Scarlett Johansson, and who's a mercenary. and they're go to are With a big heart, because she's a good mercenary. Sure. And they're going to go on a journey back to one of the islands of some sort that has dinosaurs on it to get certain samples. That's basically the premise. One of the...
01:42:50
Speaker
So there's multiple islands in the Jurassic Park universe, right? So there's Jurassic Park one, which is the first island, right? Yeah. And there's Jurassic Park two, which is another island or the same island as the first Jurassic. No, another island, right?
01:43:04
Speaker
Where they take the dinos off it. And then in Jurassic Park three, i that's either the same island as two or a new island. And then in Jurassic World, it's just on it's just on the world. It's just regular town.
01:43:17
Speaker
Then Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom takes place on the first island of Jurassic Park or the second island from Jurassic Park 2 or 3. I don't remember.
01:43:29
Speaker
And then Dominion is just everywhere. And then this movie takes place on a new island. Dominion's everywhere, but not really. Let's be real. Yeah. yeah its It's the worst, the most lazy thing ever.
01:43:40
Speaker
yeah This series, I gotta say, very lazy. I love Jurassic Park. I think it's really well written. yep It's one of the great movies. Ever. yeah When we left the movie that Rebirth, you were like you're trying to say, ah this is fun, right? It is.
01:43:57
Speaker
yeah but i don't I don't understand why we have to deal with mutual exclusives. Superman is fun and it's well written. though so Why can't we do both?
01:44:09
Speaker
Well, you can. yeah can. You just talk about it. read an article, I read a headline of an article. Somebody who was writing like de writing articles like, do we need, we have like eight draws like park movies. Do we need it? Do we need any more?
01:44:24
Speaker
Yeah. It's like, you do if you write it well. That's it. That's all I ask for it. The plot is king. Just write the movie better. I am not a big fan of this movie. I'm just going to say out of the gate, but I don't dislike it.
01:44:38
Speaker
i don't I don't think it's terrible. I don't think I wasted my time. I enjoyed myself watching it, but I'm disappointed that they couldn't take... Why is it so hard to just... You know what's crazy about this? is the craziest part.
01:44:51
Speaker
Craziest part. Tell me. This movie is written by the freaking original Jurassic Park writer, David Koepp. Oh, really? Yeah. don't even know that. That's the strangest thing.
01:45:04
Speaker
He's gotten worse with his lead. Well, if you look at his track record, it's not flawless. There's some missteps in there. Anyway, I don't know. I just, yeah, that's my high-level thoughts, I guess. It's just, the premise is they're going back to one of the islands, and they're going collect samples. No, no, no, this is a new island that they've never been to in any of the movies, Simon. It's an island with dinosaurs on it, whatever.
01:45:29
Speaker
yeah but the this island, they've been experimenting. Yeah, I know, it's a testing island. Yeah, it's it's good. so they got They only experimented on one. no dude they experimented on a bunch they got raptors with wings they barely they yeah it's it's a it's they got wing raptors dude that are like partterodactto part pterodactyl part raptor it's weak okay they got sure no don't spoil any of the dinosaurs here let's just like we're not spoiling this film yeah i guess that's i don't know what there is to really spoil but i I don't remember the trailers. I feel like they showed a lot of the big action set pieces. I guess I will say this.
01:46:01
Speaker
like the The team they assemble, Rupert Friend is the billionaire dude. They they get, Carla Johansson's a mercenary person who's got a team of people that she likes. ah Namely, Mahershala Ali's character who's a like ah you know a mercenary with a heart of gold. and you guys They all have hearts of gold. No, some of them don't. and then Except for Ed Screen.
01:46:22
Speaker
You can kind of guess which ones might you know not live as long. Yeah. No. Yeah. Every character that's not a main character, you can just assume will pass away.
01:46:36
Speaker
like I think that's a fair assumption. In the series. and then And then you got, i think most importantly, Jonathan Bailey's character. but Very charming man in this. ah Jonathan Bailey from Bridgerton and Wicked.
01:46:49
Speaker
He's in it too. And he's a scientist. Yeah. who's apparently not supposed to be capable, but is somehow the most capable. I don't know. He's very he's a very capable fellow. How is this possible? I don't know. Anyway, that's the story.
01:47:02
Speaker
Yeah. So I'll throw it to you because I know you like this more than me. What did you think of this It's fun. There's dinosaurs and they kill people. That's true. So that was pretty cool. In less fun ways than ever any other movies.
01:47:14
Speaker
But yeah. I don't think it's as less fun. I think there's some fun deaths in here. All right. Definitely more fun than Jurassic Park three, where they only kill like three people. Yeah, they kill more than three people in this movie. I'll tell you that much.
01:47:28
Speaker
Yeah. um But no, like I can't deny it. Like this, this movie isn't well written by any stretch of the imagination, but sure it is like, it's still fun. And I think the action set pieces like, oh, like allow for entertainment.
01:47:41
Speaker
Right. And I, I know once we finished the movie, you thought every character is stupid and it's like, yeah, they're not the yeah brightest folk, but I don't think they're all dumb. There's a child. She's the smartest one.
01:47:54
Speaker
the the kid oh my god okay so there's a family dynamic in this movie don't spoil too much though again because it's like yeah i won't i won't spoil too much but there's a there are in the press tour so that that part is yeah There is a family dynamic that that get it included in this mercenary trip for whatever reason.
01:48:13
Speaker
And um the father in this movie, worst father of the year award, worst father in any movie. I heard you say that in the theater. I don't really agree with you necessarily. understand what you're saying, but I don't really agree. it But we can't get into details because we're not spoiling. Ken agrees with me.
01:48:29
Speaker
I get it. I get it. I'm not saying he's like, he's not the worst. Like, he I get it. The the the family trip. I know what you're talking about. He sucks. ah Sure, if you say so. don't agree.
01:48:41
Speaker
I do say I don't completely agree. I don't i don't not completely. You know, I'm ah half and half on that. I understand what you're saying. But okay I'll say this. Scarlett Johansson's character is maybe the most disappointing.
01:48:52
Speaker
I really do think that. And i I watched the scene again that I referenced in the theater when we left. There's a scene in which they're she's shooting a rifle. Yeah. She's a mercenary, so that's really not a spoiler.
01:49:04
Speaker
In the beginning of the movie, basically.
01:49:08
Speaker
And I'm just like, I couldn't believe it. Because I was like, that's so stupid. Because there was a scene before in which she's talking to another character about shooting a rifle. And she's kind of mocking them. And I'm just kind of like...
01:49:19
Speaker
I don't know. So here's the problem with her character. And there's a problem with honestly every character in this entire movie. Except for Jonathan Bailey.
01:49:29
Speaker
What? His character. ah He's perfect. Is he? Okay. Cool. He's a perfect man. He's flawed. He doesn't make any sense. He's he's the least. Where's kate the key? One of the biggest problems in the movie is there's no character development in the entire movie. like where these Yeah, there is. Are you kidding me? There's a scene where Scarlett Johansson and Mahershala Ali are sitting and they're giving exposition about the past.
01:49:53
Speaker
The music in that scene was very jarring. Did you find that it was very awkward? Yeah, was. It was like, what was going on here? It was like this weird piano. It was like this really sad piano music. I'm like, what's going on here? felt like, you know, we talked about, I forget what trailer it was, like a few weeks ago where it's like the music is trying to make you feel emotional on purpose. Yeah, but it's like, it's failing though because it makes you feel like, what's going on? Like, can they hear this? There's like an element of it like, is it...
01:50:21
Speaker
I don't know. They were just playing it off their fucking iPhone. Is this diegetic sound or not? Yeah. Anyway. But yeah, no. There's ah there's there's a scene with – so the problem with the scene that I'm talking about with Scarlett Johansson, she's shooting the rifle, is the mocking aspect but not just that.
01:50:38
Speaker
She's meant to be this capable person who's really capable of planning. that was they established her in an expositional way like they explain it there okay other characters say like oh she's so good at this she's so good at this this is cool she's so great she's good you're the only one that can do this because you're the best the problem with doing that and they don't do this in jurassic world and i'll give an example of that chris pratt's character is shown to be very capable right when you see him in the very first shot that's actually one of the coolest scenes it's the the it's like one of a lot of the covers yeah you Yeah, he's doing this hand thing.
01:51:13
Speaker
It's awesome. It's amazing. He looks so badass. And it's part of why Chris Pratt's career at risk Skyrocket is that role he played. And he played he did a great job in that role. i but In the first one specifically.
01:51:25
Speaker
Yeah. He's great in all three. Yeah, yeah. Sure. He's great in them, but the movies don't make sense. But but like that's a really cool scene and it establishes him ah who he is.
01:51:37
Speaker
As an audience, being told that somebody is effective or good or professional and then being shown the first scene with them being potentially capable is like they're not literally not capable yeah makes you question everything. It just ungrounds it and it makes it completely unrealistic.
01:51:54
Speaker
You can't anything at that point. It's very tell and not show in this But I don't believe it. It doesn't matter what you tell or don't show. I don't believe it. And the thing is that there's other moments where they explain her backstory. Again, that sad scene. And like, oh, there's this bad mission that she was on. And it was bad. And then she's just like, I'm like, is she good at all? Where is she being good? don't understand that. She's getting of nowhere.
01:52:18
Speaker
It makes no sense. I really dislike that. It's like, it's not Scarlett Johansson's fault at all. Like she's very charming. I think she, that's cool. But that's not what, like, no, no, I'm i'm talking about Scarlett Johansson as an actor. Like she's a charming actor. And like, I think she's and yeah one of the few actors that can just like deliver,
01:52:39
Speaker
arguably not great dialogue very well still because of just like how charming she is and and how charismatic she sure she can portray any role yeah um i don't think i i genuinely believe this movie would have been worse if if you casted another actor that was not as highly skilled as she was in that exact same role yeah i think it would take you out of it a little bit fair i guess
01:53:06
Speaker
his also ah That's not a problem with like the characters don't react like human beings and like people are dying around them. did Again, a great example is Jurassic World and Jurassic Park have a perfect formula.
01:53:22
Speaker
They follow this idea of like the beginning of Jurassic Park. It starts with these characters are all disarmed. They're like, everything's safe. Of course it's safe. If it wasn't safe, they wouldn't have opened the park. There's this aspect of like – and then there's this like – speaking of charming, everyone is being charmed by the park. It's like the spectacle.
01:53:41
Speaker
No expense spared. It's just this like really fantastical place that everyone loves and nobody thinks it's really a horror movie until shit hits the fan. And that's the beautiful thing about Jurassic Park is it's like like that.
01:53:53
Speaker
This movie doesn't start that way. It starts in a weird-ass way. Where they're like... And then the characters never really... There's there's no trauma. And I don't know what's going on.
01:54:05
Speaker
It makes... Oh, shit. Oh my goodness, are you okay? Mike, I'm so sorry. hopefully make Well, there's trauma... for the scene that takes place after someone dying, but never But it's so short-lived. That's what I It's one scene. it's It's like, oh my God, I just lost one of my good friends and that I'm literally never going to reference after this one conversation we have about them.
01:54:31
Speaker
um It's just, it the pacing makes no sense because of that. It's just not, I know that you're trying to pace the movie better in an action to like, But what Jurassic Park does really well is a sense of wonder. And I don't think they brought the sense of wonder. They were trying to go for the horror elements in a ah more, like i guess, even way across the movie. And I'm not sure that that's really useful.
01:54:54
Speaker
i just I just don't think it's realistic in any capacity. It's it's probably the worst one I've seen for Jurassic Park. I'm not sure. Maybe not. Maybe not. I didn't love Fallen Kingdom either.
01:55:05
Speaker
The problem is... It's still entertaining though. was entertained. So like when you hear my score at the end, you might be surprised to hear what it is because I was entertained. I enjoyed it because in some way it nails the tone a little bit. It almost reminds me a little bit of like the Meg 2 specifically, not to make the Meg. I gotta watch Meg 2.
01:55:27
Speaker
Maybe I like this movie less than I think. I don't know. i'm I'm a little bit on the fence. But anyway, you you should tell me more about why you like it because I am ah im a wet blanket and I think you should Well, dude again, i keep things simple. Like for these movies, i like there's no dinosaur movies. You don't get dinosaur movies except for that Adam Driver or dinosaur movie, which was not good.
01:55:46
Speaker
um And even that, there wasn't enough dinosaur action. and dinosaurs killing people, right? So this movie, it you have a larger cast of characters compared to like Jurassic Park 3 as an example, where you can now kill more of these characters in a, not necessarily unique way, but like in in a fun way where a dinosaur is going to fuck shit up, right?
01:56:09
Speaker
um And that's... I understand. Jurassic Park, one of my favorite movies. I grew up watching this movie. It's it's a it's a masterpiece. gen Genuinely, it is a masterpiece. Spielberg, dude.
01:56:21
Speaker
He's got the magic. But to be fair, Spielberg directed Jurassic Park 2, like The Lost World, and that's not that great of a movie. like that i That's one of my least favorite Jurassic Park movies, right? So it's like, yeah, maybe he made had the magic for that first one. I mean, like...
01:56:35
Speaker
Spielberg is amazing director. Yeah. Like, let's be real. But I mean, like, you' like, calm yourself. Yeah. He's not the magic. get out of hand. I'm not, I'm just saying he's not the magic sauce that made every Jurassic Park movie amazing. Because again, he directed the second one, which is arguably my least favorite.
01:56:51
Speaker
Yeah. Um, and again, for me, it's like, I just want to see dinosaurs fucking shit up in, in fun ways. There's, there's really, and like, again, this movie is entertainment. It's not, is it good? Yeah.
01:57:05
Speaker
Like from a writing perspective, dialogue perspective? No, dude. Like it's it's simply not like and I can acknowledge that. But was I having a really good time throughout the entire movie? Was I tensed up at moments with the dinosaurs chasing the people?
01:57:20
Speaker
the the The scene with the river, like the boat. yeah There's a brief thing in the trailer where they're on a, like a, like an inflatable boat and the T-Rex is chasing them. Like yeah brilliant. There's awesome moments in this movie, these awesome set pieces. Right. And I think that's what makes this movie just like a really great time and very enjoyable.
01:57:39
Speaker
And it's like, as long as you hit like this sort of bar where it's fun, right. And I know we should have like good, like, get like a belt. Well, better balance me with good dialogue. Well-written just do also fun.
01:57:53
Speaker
But like, if we're still hitting that fun meter entertainment meter, yeah, dude, fuck it. Whatever. Who cares? I'm in it. I'm i'm in it to enjoy it. It's a popcorn flick. You know, and it's like, I'll have a good time with it. You can have a book. Would I be that? I'd be yeah like Superman's a popcorn flick. I know I had an entire fucking bag of large popcorn watching this. It's well written.
01:58:16
Speaker
Yeah. Like it's good. In every way. I'm just saying different strokes for different folks. You know what I mean? you know you're Oh, yeah. This movie is better than First of all, why is it called Jurassic World Rebirth?
01:58:33
Speaker
like What are you doing? Yeah, i don't know. frick are you doing? It makes no sense. yeah It doesn't mean nothing. is This movie is just a snackier Kong Skull Island with bad writing. That's what this is. That's ah that's actually...
01:58:49
Speaker
A good comparison. and um Lots of snacks. lots Lots of snacks. The product placement in this movie is un unbelievable. It's so often. yeah Slight spoiler for literally the start of the movie.
01:59:02
Speaker
A Snickers bar causes a big fiasco on this island. A Snickers wrapper. um Right. Yeah, I guess. Bad product placement for Snickers. You shouldn't eat Snickers at a work site or else dinosaurs will come loose and kill everyone.
01:59:17
Speaker
I think, though, what the message was like the Snickers was already gone and the dinosaur was hungry and you're not yourself when you're hungry. Yeah, get good point. Yeah, but good stuff, man. It was eaten.
01:59:30
Speaker
It was eaten. And then yeah the dinosaur was like, what? Nothing for me? And then she'd hit the fan. Yeah. To talk about the only negative that I have about this movie, Simon. Yeah, i I'm being facetious.
01:59:43
Speaker
But I think the scale of this movie, in particular with the D-Rex that they introduced at the start of the movie, and and they have a big thing at the end of the movie. um Spoiler, it's about the penis.
01:59:55
Speaker
Got a big penis. No, I'm kidding. It is. This is a PG-13 movie. Huge cock, dude. and Fucking swinging around. That's actually how one of the characters die. gets hit by the D-Rex's big D, dude.
02:00:07
Speaker
um No, no. But in reality, um well, not in reality. In this in this movie's reality, the D-Rex can change height dramatically. um He's like as tall as a, like, the scale is off.
02:00:23
Speaker
with the D-Rex in particular. Right. ah Like, especially at the end, even at the start, it's like, how big is this door? How big is this monster in, in this, in this confined area?
02:00:33
Speaker
And at the end, it's like, it's super high. Can, you know, be as tall as like, i don't know, like how, how high a helicopter will fly at a certain point, but also be kind of low as weird little arms. Yeah.
02:00:49
Speaker
Yeah. I don't like the end of the movie that much. I think that's like one of the weakest parts of it. No spoilers. Careful. Yeah, not going to spoil it. um But I don't really love the end of the movie, but who cares? Whatever. It's the about the ride.
02:01:02
Speaker
Right. It's a perfect example of a theme park film, I guess. Yeah, dude. Exactly. Exactly. and guess. actually This is what I would call a theme park film, but a movie that's badly written and is kind of fun to watch.
02:01:15
Speaker
Like the Meg 2. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like this is better than Captain Falcon.
02:01:22
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Because that movie wasn't even that fun. That's the issue with it. That's a mess. Yeah, that movie sucked. I don't get it. I don't get it.
02:01:34
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Yeah, dude. All right. Cool. What do you rate this movie? I'm curious, is actually. ah ah Okay, yeah, we should just move on, I guess. Do you have more to say? No, no if you have more to say, please. I don't know. just looking at my notes just to make sure I didn't miss anything. I think I captured everything I... Okay. i so There's just some weird shit in it. it's The Reber thing is so weird. Scarlett Johansson's character not being established is actually effective. is so strange.
02:02:04
Speaker
The snacks placement is so weird. Yeah. So strange. The Star Wars weird references that don't make any sense that are so... Again, very weird. It's just like... Again, and even the family. The funny thing about with the family is that they're kind of the most entertaining part of the movie in some capacity.
02:02:22
Speaker
I found that the family dynamic was actually quite funny because there's like ah like these conversations with the... like You didn't like that. Okay. I don't know. I don't like the family dynamic just because of the dad. I think the dad sucks. He's annoying. He's not really annoying.
02:02:39
Speaker
I don't really know. he sucks a little bit because he made it what one decision that doesn't make up. Multiple decisions. No. Yeah, dude. No, it's multiple. He's a human. hero wrote he He reminds me of a human being. he's the most They're the most realistic out of everyone, potentially. But then there's still a lack of trauma.
02:02:57
Speaker
Again, there's a lack of trauma across the board. No one has any trauma. Jonathan Bailey's character is a freaking superhero. he At one point, he did a roll. He jumped and rolled on the ground like he did parkour, parkour.
02:03:10
Speaker
Yeah, he did parkour. No, they established that. He says a line of dialogue how is ah one of his best friends died when he was a kid while they were doing parkour together. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. No. But you believed it for a split second. I did because I'm like, that would make sense.
02:03:25
Speaker
At least that would make sense. That's they established his character arc. I like, to be fair, like I like Mahershala Ali as well. we didn't really talk about him. Like, I love him. He's a great actor. He's great in everything. I hope they make the Blade movie. He deserves it. And and I think he'd be great as Blade.
02:03:38
Speaker
Amazing. I'd rather much see, rather see a Blade movie with Mahershala Ali than this movie. But, alas. What? Okay, you rate it. You rate this.
02:03:50
Speaker
I think this is like, ah again, it's a fun romp. It's a 3.5. It's good. Are you serious? Yeah. It's 3.5 for me. No, this is ah this is the three. This is the three, which you probably would be like, expected i feel like you would expect it a two, but I gave it a three because it is fun. It is fun. God damn it. It's fun to watch. I'll give it that. It's it's in some capacity more fun than companion actually to watch. Whoa. The shitty thing. I give it a three as well.
02:04:19
Speaker
I think Companion is a better movie, but I think this is more Companion a funnier movie. No, it's not that really a better movie because it's got worse plot holes. the At least it this nails its tone. the Companion is like, we think we're taking this kind of seriously while also being a comedy and then they make a bunch of weird... You you got to look at that film more objectively. It's ridiculous. Anyway.
02:04:41
Speaker
All right. All right. Well, we're done. I think we're done with Jurassic World. So the Jurassic World rebirth, you rated 3.5. I rated 3. That makes it a 7.5. That's so high. That's so high for this movie. It makes it a 6.5, dude.
02:04:55
Speaker
Three plus three equals six plus point five. I just don't know how to Jesus, chill the fuck out, dude. Chill the fuck out. I'm throwing it off. I'm throwing it off. It's been a long episode. I know. We're getting late. We're getting late. We wanted to speed up. Let's move on. It's six point five.
02:05:09
Speaker
Six point five out ten potatoes. that's That's a fair score, I think. That's a fair score. It was entertaining enough. Okay. Cool. All right. Fine. Jesus. All right. What a mess. All right.
02:05:22
Speaker
um' ah Not that much of a mess, though, because I gave it a three. um So, okay.
Excitement for Upcoming Releases: Smurfs & More
02:05:25
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ah This is the last segment of our show, Adrian. it's a It's a segment of our show that I'd like to call A Look to the Future. Wow.
02:05:35
Speaker
A portion of our podcast where each of us present at least three of our picks for the TV series or movies that look most interesting to us that are releasing between the dates of July 2025 and July 2025. Okay. twenty twenty five okay so Um, yeah, as this customary, you go first. What is it? All right, Simon. I think, you know, what i guys I think you know what I'm going to choose here.
02:05:58
Speaker
I think it's obvious what I'm going pick here. I'm going with Smurfs. It's coming out July 18th. Rihanna is Smurfette. Um, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
02:06:11
Speaker
Can't wait for this movie. Oh, my God. Most anticipated film of the year. We talked earlier about, like, different art styles with, like, Cat in the Hat. And this movie goes to live action, right?
02:06:22
Speaker
I reading that correctly? I have no idea. All I know is that Rihanna is Smurfette. And that's what matters. This Smurf's written here. I was never going to say it first. I have it, like, as a backup. And it says, stars Rihanna for some reason, is what have written.
02:06:35
Speaker
Dude, it's on the poster. Look. Yeah, she's an important part of the... Is she trying to get into acting in a bigger way, you think? i don't know. Just shows that Rihanna is smurfette. Yeah, it's interesting. Oh, do you think they just cast her? She had like, what, three kids recently? Like over the past like eight years, she just released her new album or whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's been a while. She's been kind of taking it easy.
02:06:54
Speaker
Raising a child. child Oh, I think you're saying she's doing it for her children. Oh, maybe that too. Yeah. Maybe that as well. But I feel like she hasn't been doing as as much.
02:07:05
Speaker
She's just not like in a lot of things as an a Public eye. Or musically. She hasn't released music for quite some time. Did you see that meme about James Corden?
02:07:16
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, I have actually. James Corden was trying to get Rihanna on ah his a car carpool karaoke show. Yeah. And then he left he left the the Late Late Show.
02:07:30
Speaker
with James Corden and then she's now releasing it. Oh, right. Rihanna said she would never do it unless she had an album to promote. And then James Corden left the Late Late Show and now Rihanna's got an album.
02:07:41
Speaker
Yeah. So they think it's because they didn't want it. I'm going to hang out with James
James Corden's Public Image & Industry Comebacks
02:07:46
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Corden. What do you think about James Corden? There's something about him that rubs me the wrong way. I don't know what the deal is with him. reminds me of the controversy a little bit with Ellen DeGeneres.
02:07:57
Speaker
like I don't know how much of it is a fake, overblown nonsense. Because when you see James Corden, he seems to get along with various... actors but then there's like these rumors that he was like rude in a restaurant or something but i'm like is it real yeah yeah no i remember that yeah he got banned from a restaurant because he treated the staff like shit yeah no no okay i remember that restaurant like is did he actually get banned though is it overblown he did okay Yeah, you got banned from a restaurant.
02:08:23
Speaker
Did he do something wrong or maybe there's somebody else, maybe they just did something to him and then it got... No, no, it was him specifically because the rest... I literally watched a video on this like within the past like few months, funnily enough. It was like ah like men one like a YouTube creator. he He was talking about the death of late night TV, Eddie Burback.
02:08:43
Speaker
And he did like... That's not dead. He was just talking about like a bunch of the... like late night TV hosts. And he was talking about James Corden specifically in in one segment. And he was talking about like how James Corden kind of sucks because of the literally like he got banned from a restaurant. The restaurant owner literally posted online saying that he would never let this guy in, that he treated people like shit.
02:09:04
Speaker
And then there is like a lot of things that um I think him and Stephen Colbert or, or, or Seth Meyers, they were like sitting down and having a conversation and they asked James Corden, like, okay, i like if you don't mind, just name your three cameramen here. It's like, say their names.
02:09:23
Speaker
And then he, he wasn't able to say their names. Like he like, uh, uh, or whatever. Oh, um, so i think they're Really? They were humiliating him on camera? they They humiliated Corden on camera?
02:09:33
Speaker
Yeah, like it it was like during Corden's show, actually. like i think it was Stephen Colbert, and they were like asking each other random questions. and Stephen Colbert, I'm pretty sure Colbert. Colbert could have been just doing it for for fun. Do you think it was being malicious?
02:09:49
Speaker
No, I don't think he was being malicious. think he was making a joke. The name of the show is after Colbert. Okay. So yeah, I think it was Colbert. They're on the same network. Yeah, I think Colbert was kind of making ah like a joke, like a little jokey jab. And I was like, okay, cool. like Name your three, you know the three cameramen that you have here. And then James Corden simply could not.
02:10:05
Speaker
Oh, okay. I think there's like ah there's a lot of background noise. but It's interesting. I didn't like James Corden before then. There was something about him that rubbed me the wrong way. It's kind of like Jay Baruchel to me. like I mentioned this like a couple weeks ago.
02:10:17
Speaker
I have nothing against Jay Baruchel, but there's something about Jay Baruchel that just rubs me the wrong way. like look I don't know. I don't have anyone like that. But I would say, like the yeah, I don't know. I have no idea. I just don't know. I don't know James Corden. I watched some of the lately shows because I really like Craig Ferguson, and then he replaced him.
02:10:32
Speaker
yeah And the coolest thing that he did was in the beginning of the show, they they they didn't have a set. I don't know how that's even possible because they did the first episode on the set that they had for the Late Late Show. And the second episode was literally in some guy's house.
02:10:48
Speaker
i thought that was the coolest. I don't know if it was a marketing ploy or they lost the set or something happened. They literally had – um
02:10:59
Speaker
It's Beck, right? The the artist? Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking i got you on the brain here. Yeah. yeah But yeah, it was Beck. be Beck, the artist, was who I like.
02:11:10
Speaker
So I don't know why I – yeah, me. I'm so stupid. Beck, the – whom I like. So don't know how I forgot that. It is late at night. We're almost 1 in the morning here. But yeah, Beck was – Beck, for – they just kept introducing guests. They have Jeff Goldblum coming to this random guy's house. It literally was a random man's house. They just went door to door and like, would you like us to do the show in your house?
02:11:30
Speaker
And they had the setup. like It was a guy's basement and this guy was like renting the house. And Jeff Goldblum was sitting on this guy's couch next to this guy and they're just interviewing him.
02:11:40
Speaker
it was It's one of the most crazy – episodes. It was great because the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson was all unscripted. Essentially, like when he was doing interviews, he didn't really do pre-interviews and he would just interview people very off the cuff.
02:11:52
Speaker
And this felt like that. And then they're like, oh, and here's Beck. And then Beck comes into the freaking guy's house and just starts playing music. It's one of the most absurd things ever. And like the acoustics were all weird because they're in the guy's house.
02:12:05
Speaker
And like this is the craziest, coolest way to start a TV show ever. did ever i don't think the Late Late Show ever got like were new they never even After James Corden left, they just stopped doing it.
02:12:16
Speaker
But yeah, it's crazy. that's That's really unfortunate if you treat like service employees. I feel like it kind of tells little bit about who you are if you're treating customer service employees like that badly, like hospitality employees, unfortunately. And we were kind of one of those.
02:12:32
Speaker
we We both worked in that industry yeah in a wider way. So I feel like that also... that rose That robs me the wrong way more so, but I also wasn't there and I wonder how much, because again, people like to do things for fame too. Like I'm not saying the restaurant owner is not right. I just was like, I don't really know, you know?
02:12:50
Speaker
Me neither. But yeah. Okay. Yeah, it could be true. Don't know. Anyway. and he The Smurfs, July 18th. Yeah, that's all a conversation about the Smurfs. Dude, we went on such a chance. I don't even know how the fuck we got went that far. Oh, yeah. How did we get to James Corden?
02:13:04
Speaker
Because he wanted to do carpool karaoke with Rihanna. Correct. Who is Smurf at in the Smurfs movie coming out. Yeah. Yeah.
02:13:14
Speaker
Okay. Yeah, it's like the six degrees of Kevin Bacon. Yeah. You think Kevin Bacon will be in the DCU? As a main character somewhere. Maybe. He was in the MCU. He was in X-Men last, not last stand, X-Men first class.
02:13:30
Speaker
that With me with them the guy, Mr. Terrific actor. Yeah, Eddie Gathagi. Yeah, but no, he was in the Guardians holiday special, I think is what you're referring to.
02:13:42
Speaker
That James Gunn did. He's in first class. I know, but he's also... Oh, he's in that, right. yeah That's the other thing. Yeah, i guess so. That's directly connected him. But he can't... The thing is he that one's struggle a struggle because he is literally playing himself.
02:13:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. I'm saying, will he be in it as like an actual character? No, I think he's going to be in it as Kevin Bacon. Yeah, again. That'd be funny, actually. He'll do another Christmas special. Yeah.
02:14:05
Speaker
don't think he's got time to do things like that anymore. You know what i mean? Kevin Bacon? James Gunn. Oh. Interesting thing about James Gunn. Think about it for a second. Like five years ago, the guy was canceled.
02:14:20
Speaker
Yeah, for for dumb stuff. But no, but imagine that's a crazy. And James Gunn was in an interview, I think it was with like Happy Sad Confused podcast. And like the conversation was like, did you think you were done?
02:14:31
Speaker
He's like, I 100% thought my career was over. That's what he said. That's crazy. yeah That's crazy. He's now the head of the DCU. Yeah. That's why it's pretty awesome that like it's yeah, it's like he got canceled and then just like a bunch of fans rallied behind him. And then it wasn't just it wasn't fans. it was the people who cares what the fans say. The people we worked with.
02:14:52
Speaker
That was it like Dave Bautista and like Paul McLeod and like a bunch of other actors just rallied to the call. Zoe Saldana came to the rescue. Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt. like they really like yeah You guys don't know this guy.
02:15:06
Speaker
He's a good guy. Anyway, that's pretty impressive that he he's able to pull that off. It's pretty wild. It's like he went from like zero to like being a head of, head of like one of the most like valuable franchises.
02:15:19
Speaker
He's in charge of the video games division. I mean, thank you. I think too, technically, look on a narrative standpoint, like he gets to determine what DC video games are. I think. Doesn't he?
02:15:31
Speaker
I don't know. All right. Cool. and next pick is mine and I'm going to get through this eventually. Uh, the next pick is, uh,
Eddington Movie Preview
02:15:42
Speaker
I'm going to change it up. Cause I think you'll just pick this one. Imagine we never pick it. Eddington, the July 18th launch of Eddington, which is next week. Adrian, it stars Pedro Pascal and Joaquin Phoenix alongside, um, Austin Butler and Emma stone in this, uh, strange, somewhat true tale about a town during COVID, uh,
02:16:04
Speaker
where there's some strange some strange politics going on. And the trailers for this look really good. And it's Arya Aster from of the old direction for Midsommar and Hereditary.
02:16:21
Speaker
What? No, I'm sorry. I hit a video on my phone by accident about the next thing I'm talking about. It looked at me weird like I said something stupid. I did say weird. I did say something weird because I'm tired, but I said the old direction. He's the director of Hereditary.
02:16:36
Speaker
he ah He is a he has of a directed thing. Yes, that's correct. But anyway, Eddington is very exciting for me. That's next week. I think it's going to be very divisive, to be honest. No, I'm going away next week. so To where?
02:16:48
Speaker
ah Just ah to ah like a cottage, just for a brief time. But anyway. What what cottage? This isn't the time for this. Your cottage? ah With your family? Sure. It's like your family cottage that you hang out with with your family on occasion?
02:17:02
Speaker
Yes. um Are you lying to me? How divisive do you think Eddington will be? Very. Like, do you think it will, like, cause people to be like, oh, this is bad. Ari Oster's woke.
02:17:18
Speaker
Probably. He's a woke director. Because people are annoying. Yeah. But I don't know. I think everyone is I think all the the the woke crowd right now is so focused on all the all the shit that Trump is doing with like Epstein and causing a war and everything that they're too busy.
02:17:34
Speaker
being mad The anti-woke crowd. You mean the anti-woke crowd? sorry. Yeah, the anti-woke crowd. They're too busy being mad at each other to to focus on anything. The Epstein list apparently doesn't exist anymore.
02:17:44
Speaker
why are we spending so Why are we talking about the Epstein list? We've been talking about this guy forever. did Did you like see some of the hypocri hypocrisy of like how J.D. Vance like in 2021 was like... Yes. How can we not? Of course.
02:17:59
Speaker
course I did, Ian. and there's no journalist worth their salt. They're going to not look into this. yeah and And now it's just like, it doesn't matter. There are fucking caricatures, dude. They're all so stupid. I don't know how JD Vance looks like as well. I still don't know how he looks like.
02:18:14
Speaker
I'm going to hammer that point out. i didn't send you that clip. There's a clip for like an actual news broadcaster about this guy who was going through like a checkpoint for like, um, he was from like the Netherlands or something. Yeah, dude. I know about this. I know exactly. i guess i do the clearway This is a really good news broadcast. Like the like ah the actual newscaster did a great job with the actual presentation.
02:18:36
Speaker
Imagine being dude, uh, but yeah Sorry, I should give context. The guy was going through a checkpoint, if you want to look up the video. Guy's going through checkpoint, and he had it on his phone because they somehow check people's phones now. And they checked his phone, and there was a picture of JD Vance ah in strange...
02:18:52
Speaker
and a strange A strange way where his face looks like a baby, essentially. And then he was told to go home. Like he literally got turned around and got sent back home. That's great.
Tucker Carlson's Controversial Persona
02:19:03
Speaker
very disturbing. We live in a reality right now where Tucker Carlson, the most punchable face in the world, is on the right side of history. What is happening, dude? Like it's stupid.
02:19:14
Speaker
he's not really on the right side of history. He's on the right side of history. One thing. Okay. He's very pro Russia. Like, like, like yeah ongoing pro Russia. Yeah. Let's not get too political. This is not a political podcast. All right. Yeah. Touche. Touche. I don't know about calling him the right side of history, but alas, I'm sure people listening to this might like him.
02:19:35
Speaker
So he's great. Um, and anyway, uh, Uh, fungible Cool. I'll go up next. Okay. You know exactly what I'm going to say, Simon. You know what I'm going for. It's coming up.
02:19:51
Speaker
It's my melody and Chromie. It's the, it's the Sanrio series. It's coming out on Netflix. It's a stop motion. Okay. Like animated thing about my meta melody and Chromie. I don't even have that here. It looks really cute.
02:20:06
Speaker
looks really cute and really fun. Um, and, uh, yeah so i i don't know did you watch pokemon concierge no that came out like a couple years ago really good it's a super cute pokemon stop motion animated series adorable and this seems like to be in a very similar style i might actually watch this my my fiancee really loves like the like the san rio stuff she thinks it's very cute and this song sorry you may have already said it july 24th okay july twenty fourth okay Cool.
02:20:34
Speaker
Yeah, anyways. Sweet. That's it. That's all. ah You're up next. The next one is one that you probably did predict for sure. It's Sandman season two, Adrian. comes out on July 24th, the same day as ah as the thing you just talked about.
02:20:51
Speaker
Isn't it already out, Sandman? No, season two is July 24th, isn't it? Am I wrong? No, it's already out, dude. It already began. Maybe the the second half of it, but it's out.
02:21:01
Speaker
Season two? The first six episodes at least are out on Netflix right now. there There's a there's on the 24th. There are maybe the final so volume two. Yeah, there's a final of five episodes of volume two for Sam and for sure.
02:21:15
Speaker
July 24th. Cool.
02:21:18
Speaker
When in the first. Oh, July 3rd. OK, cool. We never talked about it before, so I thought it was a good thing to bring up because like there's also that controversy. I wonder how well it's doing with the new gaming. Yeah.
02:21:29
Speaker
yeah Yeah, it's pretty apparent stuff that he's being accused of. I don't know how accurate it is. i don't i don't want to discuss it just because I don't know enough about it. Yeah, and if it's true.
02:21:43
Speaker
Yeah. um but yeah It's good that they canceled the show because there's a lot of people who worked on that. I mean, they did because it's it's done after the season. But they didn't like. like and cut it okay season two like oh you know what we're halfway through filming at it's over yeah because they found it they talked about this like last year it's no gaming controversy anyway okay your pick is next cool pick is next awesome simon okay so you obviously know what i'm going to pick here there's no denying my next choice it's so clearly obvious
02:22:18
Speaker
You literally won't even see it not coming. Is this your last choice? Yeah, it's my last choice. I only have three choices, dude. Well, you don't have to do three. Remember, we have that rule. Yeah, okay, that's true.
02:22:30
Speaker
But it is my last choice. It's actually the clueless 30th anniversary. It's coming back to theaters July 18th. No, you can't do that. but That one you can't do. You did Ma.
02:22:40
Speaker
You did Ma. It was an accident. i didn't I don't know why I didn't think that movie came out yet. Octavia Spencer starring ma Yeah, man. She holds a gun in a very compelling way. It it got me. It got me. yeah I made a sticker out of that.
02:22:56
Speaker
I like it. and I just yeah i send it on a c city sticker. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Anyway, what's um it's I know what you did last summer. It's the requel. Yeah. surprised you didn't do this one yet. Yeah.
02:23:06
Speaker
Yeah. This is coming out July 18th. I only watched the first. I know what you did last summer. Right. And I know there was that. I still know what you did last summer. And I know there was an Amazon series that was like one season. of with the same name.
02:23:18
Speaker
um Will this be good? i don't know. Will I watch it? Maybe. Yeah. That's it. That's all. Okay. What about you? That's all. yeah Okay. So the next one I'm going to pick here is the July 25th airing.
Upcoming Star Trek & Happy Gilmore 2 Announcements
02:23:32
Speaker
You definitely know what this is. On July 25th, Happy Gilmore 2 comes out on Netflix. Dude. Yeah. I knew you were going to say that one. I knew it. Yeah. Happy Gilmore 2. Adam Sandler returns as the hockey player who becomes a golfer, who apparently in this one is kind of washed up and not good at golf anymore and then becomes a better golfer, it seems like.
02:23:52
Speaker
But it's a it's workaholics director Mike Newacek. Newacek. Directing. So that's cool. Yeah. Any more do you want to add into the mix before we wrap it up? Yeah, sure. You know what?
02:24:05
Speaker
Obviously, you know what this one's going to Simon. You know exactly what this one's going to be. What is it? What is it? So it's the ah Netflix limited series Untamed releasing July 17th starring Eric Bana.
02:24:19
Speaker
Um, it's coming out July 17th. It's in the vast expanse of the Yosemite national park. A woman's death draws a federal agent into lawless terrain where nature obeys no rules, but its own. Eric Bannon is not in that many things anymore. Do you find that?
02:24:34
Speaker
It's interesting. no I mean, yeah, like I, yeah, yeah he's not. Yeah. Okay. It's good actor though. Anyway. You'd think he, he, yeah.
02:24:44
Speaker
Yeah. It's like Josh Holloway. Damn. rest in peace i mean they're not maybe on the same level but josh hallways is sad sad you just can't get can't catch a break show just got canceled after he finally got the lead anyway It's unfortunate. But yeah, okay. I got another one as well. It's um also releasing on July 17th, actually. Star Trek Strange New Worlds is coming back, Adrian, for season three.
02:25:08
Speaker
Oh my God. That's great. That one is actually what I have on the list. I have all these on my list. I'm not just like looking through a document that you found online here. Is that what you're doing? That's what you're Oh, this is on your list?
02:25:19
Speaker
Yeah. Wow, okay. Good for you. Did you ever watch any of the Star Trek? Anything? No. Anything Star Trek at all? Nothing. Okay. That was another thing that J.J. Abrams got to got to direct. He directed Star Trek before Star Wars, right?
02:25:34
Speaker
Like the new... It is true. It is true. Yeah. New films? i guess Yeah. I guess the yeah the most recent films. Yeah. And then the the new shows have been pretty good. like the People like the Picard show...
02:25:48
Speaker
And Strange New Worlds is the dude from Hell on Wheels in it. Oh. You know what I'm talking Ants and Mount. Yeah. Inhumans.
02:26:00
Speaker
Yeah. Jesus. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. What a crazy, what a crazy debacle that was, eh? They must have known they had something bad on their hands, though, eh? But it's strange because they put it in theaters. Yeah.
02:26:13
Speaker
It's like their first TV series. They're like, this is canon. And then they like slowly slid away from that. Like, actually not. It's actually not related. Yeah. To the MCU. That was like the internal civil war between like the... Yeah?
02:26:31
Speaker
People. You think it was... Really? Wasn't it? Because there was the TV Marvel guy and then it's like Bob... It was like Bob Iger and Bob Ike or something.
02:26:42
Speaker
It's like Ike something. Oh, no, I don't think that was related to this. Was I think so? I thought so. Oh, maybe i wasn't aware of that. I know what you're talking about, though. Yeah. Then that guy got ousted.
02:26:53
Speaker
Yeah. And then he tried to take Bob Iger down again, I think later on, like recently. The gun. no yeah No, no, no gun. Yeah, no. He just hired Octavia Spencer.
02:27:04
Speaker
I'm OK. I got one more here because I got one more as well. Okay, you go. It's your turn. Okay, so again, to be real, obviously you know which one this one's going be. We've been leading up to this one. It's been a while. This is the longest the longest segment of A Look to the Future that we've ever launched. And we're literally it's 1 o'clock in the morning.
02:27:27
Speaker
Okay, go on. You know exactly what I'm going to choose here. This is what we've been leading up to. actually don't know. I wonder if the audience even knows what the movie is that we're dancing around. That's the, or the TV show, I guess.
02:27:40
Speaker
I'm curious. it It would be funny if they just don't understand, like, what are they even even laughing at? This isn't even that funny. Is this segment usually run for 45 minutes? No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.
02:27:51
Speaker
But it's, it's a, it's a movie that's coming out. um It's a normal woman. It's coming out on Netflix. It's an Indonesian movie. Indonesian movie. No,
02:28:06
Speaker
Come on. That's a cop-out a little bit. You're not going to watch that. You have no interest in it. that's That breaks the rules. What are you talking about? The Raid is an Indonesian movie. You're not watching this one. The Raid 2 is an Indonesian movie.
02:28:18
Speaker
yeah That's true. Those are great movies. You gonna watch this for next episode. I will. I know I'm a woman. You better review it. Well, comes out on ah July 24th. I don't know if I'll find the time.
02:28:30
Speaker
Okay. July 24th. Why? We won't find the time because we're going to watch the movie Fantastic Four First Steps, which comes out on July 25th. Oh my goodness. That's coming out?
02:28:41
Speaker
Yes. That is the movie. That is the the the biggest movie of maybe of the month. I don't know. I think Superman might be the biggest movie of the month. Jurassic. but No, Jurassic Park. You think Jurassic World Rebirth will sell more tickets than both of those other films? I think so.
02:28:57
Speaker
That's crazy, eh? That's crazy. And imagine if they had a good plot. I guess it wouldn't matter because no one gives a shit, apparently. No one cares. Nobody cares. That's so unfortunate. I don't care. It makes me so miserable to think about. Fuck it. watch some dinosaurs killing people, dude. Honestly, if it wasn't for my fiance, I think I wouldn't have gone to see Jurassic World for What? What about me?
02:29:22
Speaker
your Adrian. You said that at the start of the episode. You said this three hours and 12 minutes ago you said my Adrian. And you, but I wasn't going to combine you as if I needed both of you to go see it. But I just feel like it's not i don't know it's not pressing. I would have not not gone to see it, but I didn't go see other movies this this year that I feel like I would have gone to see. like I didn't see Wes Anderson's Phoenician Scheme.
02:29:48
Speaker
Oh, that's true. much rather have seen Phoenicians game in theaters. what I'm saying. I wouldn't have. I know. I'm aware.
Episode Reflection & Wrap-Up
02:29:55
Speaker
All right. Well, that's the end of our regular scheduled programming for episode 114. Do you have anything to say, Adrian, before i close off the show? No. It's funny. we like we We wanted to make this a brisker episode just because we both work tomorrow morning. It's a Thursday night. It's 1.11 a.m.
02:30:11
Speaker
we were i got to get up for like 9 a.m. Shit. Shit. So I'm done. I'm done rambling. I feel like I've talked a lot. I feel like i I just continue extending everything I'm saying just like a little bit too long.
02:30:25
Speaker
And realistically, like we should be ending this episode at this point in time. There's like arguably nothing left to say. Like we've just said so much and we just keep talking and talking and talking. and so I'm just like, dude, yeah, this is, yeah.
02:30:42
Speaker
You know? Yeah, I know. Okay, well, thank you for listening, at audience, to episode 114 of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. My name is Simon Eadie, and it has been a pleasure to host you alongside my endearing co-host, Adrian Pinter.
02:30:59
Speaker
Please join us on July 29th for episode 115. Good evening to you, and good luck. Good night. Take care.
02:31:10
Speaker
Goodbye. Goodbye.