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115. Don’t Make Shit, Unless Into Toilet
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The Emmy nominees have been announced! Adrian and Simon examine the Emmy nominations and snubs for the 77th Emmy Awards. Why were there no actors from Andor nominated in any of the major acting categories? Will Apple’s The Studio and Severance sweep the awards show? They discuss all of this and more! Plus, they analyze Marvel President Kevin Feige’s recent pre-Comic Con presentation about the state of MCU; and they take a look at the critical and commercial success of James Gunn’s Superman. Additionally, the boys discuss Vince Gilligan’s next teased project, the recently announced June Nielsen Ratings ranking for media distributors, the strange focus on AI across our society, hyperbolic online hate for genres of movies, and they dive a little bit too deep into politics while discussing the controversy behind the cancelation of the Late Show on CBS.
This episode was recorded in Canada on July 23rd 2025. Episodes air every two weeks on Tuesdays! Catch us on August 12th for Episode 116.
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Emmy Awards Nominee Discussion
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This episode, we examine the recently announced Emmy nominees for the upcoming 77th Emmy
Marvel and DC Universe: A Comparative Analysis
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Awards ceremony. We take a look at the current state of both Kevin Feige's Marvel Cinematic Universe and James Gunn's recently launched DC Universe.
Unintentional Dive into Politics: A Tangent
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And we discussed politics for like 45 minutes to an hour, way too long at the end of this. Unintentional. yeah We shouldn't have done that. Yeah, yeah. It was honestly- was a bit of a mistake, yeah. Yeah, it was- it it was It's because we talked about the Stephen Colbert show being canceled because it- it Yeah. Anyways.
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Lots of things. Woke, there's a lot of- woke But woke Superman, somehow Superman's woke somehow. Yeah. Because kind is woke apparently now, you know? And he's an em immigrant. Yeah. That's crazy.
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Yeah. Immigrants are woke too. So yeah, we talked about politics way too long, you know?
Criticism of Disney: Views from Non-Viewers
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and yeah And then the people talking about, I maybe brought this up too much, but we talked about how people keep saying that Disney is lame, like as a whole, as if like there's no, and but these are individuals who never even watched most Disney content, but they keep saying everything's lame.
Podcast Dynamics: Balancing Busy Lives
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yeah, yeah anyway i i may have brought that up at least seven times you did i mean i also brought up the the the phrase the james universe but adrian literally never responds to it at all it's such a cheesy weird thing like the dc james universe but he never even yeah never even responds i think he was distracted i think he was like reading emails while we were recording for at least i acknowledged it i wasn't i acknowledged Yeah, he was, honestly, I forgive it.
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No problem. I understand. You know, we're leading leading busy lives. It's fine. It's all good. I'm not trying to clown on you here. But anyway, yeah, that's it. Politics. Too long. I apologize to you, audience.
Tech Troubles: Apple AirPods Frustrations
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But we won't do that again.
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Probably. Maybe. I mean, look, we don't get paid for this. So we might just talk about politics whenever we want, but we probably won't. on episode 116. This is episode 115 though. And my name is Simon Eady.
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And I'm Adrian Pinter. Welcome to Split Focus, a film and TV podcast, episode 115.
Comedic Fly Hunt: A Host's Adventure
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bo no la la la la la la la la la
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to be at office Dude, i start i you know i start this ah I start this podcast up. I go to invite you. and put an Apple AirPod in my ear.
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And instantly, one of them is dead. The case is fully charged. One of them is alive. The other one is dead. What kind of software and nonsense is that? Apple, get it together. That's all say. Pro, right? Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. yeah i've I've been having that issue with my pros as well. Yeah. It's ridiculous. It's so funny. like Apple kind of and not invented it, but they kind of reinvented the charging case for like earbuds.
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You know what I mean? They made it popular. And I feel like they're screwing it up, even though they're the ones who are supposed
Electric Fly Swatter: Effectiveness Examined
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to be the best at software. They kind of don't have it right anymore. Yeah, it's train. It's quite strange. i don't know what's going on.
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But this has been a very strange day for me. Very odd. I was I was about to eat dinner before you ask. It was pizza that we ordered. We didn't make it. And and we're about to eat dinner. Right. And then a fly gets into the room where we dinner like in our like it's not really a theater, but like ah a small like living space where we watch movies and TV shows. Yeah. And so this fly is flying around, but I'm like, I will not accept this fly flying around while we're watching a show and we're eating this fresh pizza that we just picked up from the store.
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Yeah. from the from the pizza From the pizza store. And so we're like, literally we spent 20 minutes trying to kill this fly. We're literally insane. that It comes through the dog. My dog, Reddington, he the the fly gets to the dog and the dog is participating. The dog is trying to snap this thing with his with his mouth like it's like an alligator.
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you know Oh, my
Adapting to Allergies: Personal Experiences
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God. It's like hungry, hungry hippo over here. He's trying to catch it with his mouth. The cat's trying to catch it with her paws. This is like some kind of weird-ass Disney disney yeah animated feature or something. And then we eventually kill it. I kill it. I have ah my i have a a stray shirt.
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I take my shirt off, Adrian, and whack it. 20 minutes in, it's dead. It's dead. That was my dinner before we came to record this.
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I'm glad, man. I'm glad. you You're glad. It's stressful. it's I'm trying to tell you it's stressful. i'm glad? I'm glad that you killed it is my point, man. I'm glad that you killed it. Yeah.
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Yeah.
Pizza Preferences and Local Spots
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yeah yeah Yeah, okay. Are you okay? You seem distracted. I know the difficulties flies. flies? Of flies. Catching flies? oh Catching them, specifically.
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You ever use the electric fly swatters? i So, as a kid, my family had the the electric one, but really the only reason we had it was for mosquitoes. And I think it even attracted the mosquitoes because it made like a noise that it like pulled them in.
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There's a mosquito buzzing. but Maybe that was just the buzzing of the electricity. Anyway, we killed mosquitoes that way. Because the flies weren't really as big of an issue typically. But when you're at like in cottage country, mosquitoes can be really quite bad, especially if you're going to sleep and there's like 100 mosquitoes. Because june June is when the mosquitoes really hit in Ontario, I feel like. And then the dragonflies come out, kill a a lot of the mosquito population, and then...
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kind of resets and then it's not so bad. But like May, June is when mosquitoes get bad. Anyway, so yeah, we had it for that. Why? Why do you ask? you have one of those? Yeah, i've i've I've used it and it's like super impressive how how quick it just murders these things. It's just like a sense of electroshock. It's like the electric chair for
Viewing Habits: YouTube's Rise and Linear TV
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human beings.
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Yeah, it smells bad too. yeah I've never seen someone get... I was about to ask you if you've ever seen it. I'm like, of course not. But I've never seen anyone get... yeah That's me in an electric chair.
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I'm doing noises. I know we're not on video for the guests. like do Do those people smell when they get electrocuted like that? Oh, I imagine so, yeah. Do they even do that anymore is it all lethal injection now?
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They do do it in some states. In Canada, we don't have that here anyway. Oh, I know, I know. We're in Canada. yeah but like they do so you know What's crazy? Somebody chose, because you can choose apparently in some states in the United States, somebody chose to get killed by a firing squad.
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last year. Oh, or is it this year? I can't remember what it was, but like, really? He chose like, because lethal injection can kind of go wrong. Unfortunately, if you don't get the dosages right, firing squad um death this year. i don't know if it was this year.
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Just typing it in here. Yeah. Brad Sigmund executed by firing a squad in South Carolina. What did he do? That was this year. I don't know what he did, but people sit on death row for years to, know, it's strange. What a strange process that
Podcast Critiques and Nuanced Discussions
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is.
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I don't really get it. But hey, but yeah, he chose he chose firing squad. I feel 2001 double murder of his ex girlfriend's parents. Yikes.
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Yeah. Took him 24 years to kill this guy after that. That's crazy. That's a long time. That's what i'm saying. You sit on death row for like years. Tax dollars. Years. yeah sure damn he killed ah his girlfriend's parents with a fucking baseball bat dude before kidnapping his ex-girlfriend at gunpoint okay this guy's a piece of shit it's funny you say like you say like tax dollars dude but in reality i mean like in canada we don't have capital punishment so in reality tax dollars all the way for life you know what i mean you're using more of them
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So I don't know. I'm I'm not a fan of capital punishment. I don't know if we should really be playing God.
Capital Punishment: Methods and Preferences
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But but yeah, anyway. i yeah I don't know. don't really care. I'm i'm no I have no mind of it. We don't deal with it here in Canada.
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Right. We were also not a capital punishment podcast. No, you're at split focus of film and TV podcast. It's great. Before we continue, though if you were going to get killed like that, what would be your choice?
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I feel like lethal injection should just be better. I'm really confused. Like, why is it... what Get the dosage... Get the correct dosages and of what, like, chemicals that they use. Like, make sure that the chemicals make sense. Like, put someone to sleep and then... I don't get it.
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I am confused by this. yeah People die by accident with too many sleeping pills. Like, can't we just... get this right. I feel like we could. I think there's like, I feel like there's maybe a lack of caring about it because there's this, there's this like balanced people, ah you know, the state is trying to find.
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It's like, how much money should we spend into figuring this out? These people committed serious crimes, terrible. We don't want to spend too much taxpayer dollars to figure this out. and That seems to be what it is because I feel like there's a good, there's got to be a way you can do this humanely.
Allergies and Adaptation: Continued Discussion
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You know, we don't need them to suffer at the end. Guillotine.
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I think that would also screw up. What if it doesn't go through? It's not sharp enough. It gets caught. and your do You know, like did the your neck, neck bone may be stronger, den larger like larger density for some people than others.
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Explosion.
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That's horrible. that but That's got to be horrible. Yeah. I feel like firing squad can be good if you get, like, if they're aiming for the head, I guess.
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You know? Yeah. It's just over in an instant. but What if they miss quite if few times? And you're just being shot by, like, 10 guys. That's horrible. Horrible. Yeah, it's crazy. I feel like, yeah I mean, yeah, like, if I had to choose one of those three, you're going out anyways.
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You may as well go out, like, with a bang. You know what i mean? Many bangs. Yeah. Yeah. Many. Yeah. ah Yeah. The explosion one doesn't work too. I mean, i'm I'm sure that could be quick as well, but I feel like it
Podcast Adjustments: Respecting Time
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doesn't.
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I mean, we watched warfare. yeah It can be very devastating. Yeah, that's true. I'm thinking like, cause explosions are unpredictable. I think that's why the you wouldn't do that on a humane perspective.
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But if, If you do that as well, like where do you do the explosion? like In the middle of the desert in Nevada or something? what where Is there like a place where you die there? like It doesn't make sense. like because There's also like collateral like damage that could happen. Not to people, but like you can break property. You're not going to have... like You know what i mean? so feel like there's just no perfect situation. I think i really do think lethal ingestion. in ingestion I guess it is ingestion. Injection oh like can be the best method.
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ahtahi My cat's in here, Simon. I didn't even notice. That's nice. That's nice. He's been sneezing a bunch recently, though. Oh, he's got allergies. season one Seasonal allergies. Like me. Man, I've been really feeling the allergies. This has been really bad.
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This year, I don't know what's... I have no idea why. I can't explain it. I've had so many allergies this year. Yesterday, I was like really suffering. And the day before, like I had a serious headache.
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It felt like I was like, am I... Do I have a really bad cold? Or do I have allergies? I wasn't sure. i'm pretty sure it's
Pizza Preferences: A Brief Revisit
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allergies. But hey. I don't really suffer too often from my allergies. Like, I think I'm developing like a slight cat allergy, but I don't really care. going to.
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You're developing one. Because like time. undeveloped it. Undeveloped it. and yeah You're underdeveloped. You know about that, right? You undeveloping your ah cat allergy? Yeah.
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I mean, you know that I'm underdeveloped. I think you know that I'm a little bit wacky. But other than that, bro, you know me. I feel like ah but i feel like i and I know this. I feel like you've told me this tale yeah but in the past.
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i I'm having almost like the opposite where, well, to be fair, it's always like going to be cuddling my little cat Pesci and I'll be rubbing my face in him. And then like after I rub my face and I'm like, my face is just so
Emmy Awards: Anticipation and Significance
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itchy and like, bro.
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But at the same time, is that really allergies or is that just me rubbing my face on a hairy little cat creature and getting all the dander in my face? Could be. Could be. Yeah, but yeah, my fiance moved in.
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I had the dog. She had the cat. And over time, somehow I... became less allergic. My brother is incredibly allergic. So is my sister, but not as much as my brother. And yeah my brother like would not be able to survive at all. like there's so There's situations where like we went camping with a family friend, and this cat was in and around the tent that we were sleeping in before we went. like We didn't take the cat with us camping.
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And then we're in this tent. My brother could not sleep in there. like There's just a little bit of cat hair, cat dander, and he had to sleep in the car, which was horrible.
Daily Life Stress: Tech Issues Humor
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Like we went to like, what did we go? Tobe Mori.
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Anyway. Has your brother ever tried manning up a little bit, dude? You know, it's like he can't breathe. A little of cat hair? It's like this. It's like yeah like that.
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It's really bad. So overdramatic, dude. That's so overdramatic. And so for me, though, i was literally allergic as well. It's not like that. I was never had a breathing issue to that extent. I was like full on sneezing and like i would cough a little bit. It was bad. Yeah. i was like, oh, man, this is not good.
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But I'm like, it's not that bad. I can get used to it. And it strangely, I became immune. I was like, ah isn't that a thing in like The Prince's Bride? Oh, you never watched The Prince's Never watched The Prince's Bride. No. I think a character like poisons himself slowly and then becomes immune to poison.
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It's kind of like is a micro I microdosed the cat. dander you microdose the cat dander yeah okay and suddenly i became not i'm really not allergic now now i can put my face the face around the cat and there's like no issue oh you know the worst thing was the worst effect worst symptom was my eyes would get so red they'd get so bloodshot going getting near the cat just be terrible but now it doesn't even happen at all that part doesn't happen at all yeah anyway that's my story well
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I'm glad that you have developed a immunity to cat allergy. It seems like it, but. um To take just like a big step back,
Capital Punishment: Moral Implications
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Simon.
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Yes. What toppings did you get on your pizza? Oh my God. When you eventually ate it. um ah We got, we went to toppers again. It's a coincidence. We went on on a toppers kick.
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operapers kick Because I think we talked about this last week or the week before. Don't know, it's a 50% offering. This is a bi-weekly film and TV podcast, audience. Stick with us because we're we're going to get past the pizza talk in a second.
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And the capital punishment and cat allergy talk. But ah we did Topper's Pizza. We did like the ah meatball pizza. Pretty good. And then we did the um Tropical Heat Wave, which is like the pineapple and...
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Hot peppers. calm That one sounds good. I feel like I would. I'd get a kick out of that one, Simon. ah Domino's has 50% off right now. All summer long. All summer. Yeah.
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Use code 501. Wow. You're like you work there. Yeah. Now for Domino's corporate, there's a bunch of signs around my ah like house. area Just like lawn signs and stuff.
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<unk> cool. it's crazy.
Local Pizza Favorites: A Deep Dive
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I enjoy a good slice of Domino's, you know, but my my personal favorites, the pizza shop right around the corner of my house. Oh, three for one. So good.
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They got really good wings there, too. That sounds terrible. It sounds terrible. It does. guarantee to Three for one. Yeah. Three for one. That's just any place that's like named after the discount that you get on the pizza.
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Naturally. I'm like, I'm skeptical. I'm skeptical. There's two pizza places in Guelph that are like mom and pop shops that I think are really excellent. Which ones? Specific. Pizza Trocadero, I think is excellent.
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And there's another pizza. it Do you know this? is Is it like a Serbian guy that owns that place? I feel like I heard that it was a Serbian guy because my parents mentioned it many years ago. That might make sense. Yeah. yeah that's right Yeah. Sure. I don't know. i'm not I never asked their nationality when I went in there.
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um The second place escapes me because it's not a pizza place. Oh, I just found it actually easily. ah The Real Deal Sports Bar and Billiards. Oh, dude. Real Deal Pizza. It is so good. The cheese out of this world. So stretchy. It's like a super low moisture. Delicious.
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Flavorful. Good stuff. man good Good stuff. Guelph. Guelph Pizza. anyone Anyone listening to this? If you're into some Guelph Pizza, if you're in in the area, The Real Deal. Sports Bar.
00:16:43
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Good shit, dude. It's good. We actually have a pretty packed show um for film and TV this week. daily Yeah, yeah. There's actually quite a bit to talk about. There's more Quick Byte news than usual.
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Than usual. We also have a split focus
Marvel vs. DC: Recent Developments
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special segment. Oh my God. To go through ah to talk about the Emmys, which is exciting. I don't know we actually have that much to talk about in terms of what we watched. I don't actually, because we were going to potentially watch Fantastic Four first steps before we recorded this.
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ah And Eddington. there And Eddington. We didn't see either of those, both of which have come out since this episode is airing. But we're recording this on Wednesday, the 23rd of July, which is before the release of Fantastic Four.
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I mean, i mean i guess there's a chance that there's going to be a Fantastic Four review spliced into this episode. But I guess if you're the audience, you'll find out if that's the case. And you'll probably already know that because we would have introduced it in the ah the cold open to the episode. But I don't know that because I don't know the future.
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So anyway,
Busy Schedules: Podcast Recording Challenges
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so yeah, let's just get into the Quick Byte news. Unless you've got more to add, more to share. We haven't talked to each other too much because you've been, i think, pretty busy with various personal stuff over the last couple of weeks.
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You have also been busy, though. yeah I've been away. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. It's true. So. Yeah. Do you have anything to add or? No.
00:18:15
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Oh, no, I'm good. I had nothing too crazy. I'm nothing too crazy, man. I appreciate you recording early and and and also appreciate your understanding on on me having to switch art because we were going to go watch Fantastic Four upon release night.
00:18:30
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Right. but Yeah, I guess we should say that we're not just lazy, although we don't get paid for this anyways. But but we we do we would have recorded out. It doesn't make any sense to record this earlier. We usually will record a couple of days before the air date because that this this podcast launches every tuesday every Tuesday, basically every two weeks on Tuesdays.
00:18:46
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Yeah, We just couldn't do it because you were busy. Yeah, yeah. Like I'm out of town on the weekend and then tomorrow I have to pick my fiance up from the train station. She's going to Toronto. And of course the train comes...
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Right as Fantastic Four starts. Perfect timing. Oh, cool. um so and then yeah And then you're away on the weekend. and That's why we couldn't. Correct.
Marvel's Future: Post-Secret Wars Plans
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Yeah. mean, we could do a late, late showing of Fantastic Four tomorrow.
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and We could like last minute, but. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's possible. I guess we'll see you again. Yeah, I guess we'll see. I guess we'll freaking see, dude. I guess guess the audience will see.
00:19:26
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What will the future hold in this very podcast? Yeah. And the past, because again, we would have announced it in the cold open. So it's a mystery. But anyway, yeah, crazy stuff. Time travel. Okay. Well, Adrian, let's get into some quick, quick bite news of the film and TV industry.
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So this one's a little bit more packed than usual. I omitted the trailers, although if you have any trailers to talk about, I'll, I'll, I'll leave ah quick moment at the end of this quick bite news segment for you to mention it.
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But here's what, Oh, I see clicking on that link. It's pretty cool. we we'll We'll get to We'll get to it. That's the last last piece
Challenges in Marvel: Content Scaling
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of Quick Byte News. isn Letter D. but it little Letter A in my notes here, Adrian. The first bit of Quick Byte News.
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Nielsen Ratings reported, and this is something I just threw in here because I thought it was really interesting just as a quick thing. Netflix managed to crack the top three in viewership in June when compared to all media distributors.
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I would have thought they would have done this Many times before, but apparently they have not. did you Did you know this? Do you have any idea of this? This is a crazy thing.
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now Can you guess what the top media distributor is ah in June of 2025? Based on like market shares, 12.8% is the top one.
Media Consumption: YouTube's Dominance
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Guess which one. I think you can guess it. I don't think I can, Simon. I'm i'm actually... so Media a distributor, though. Broadly, very broad. Media distributor, not like... Media distributor.
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Yeah. Let's take a guess. Take guess. NBC Universal? You think NBC is a top one? I don't know, dude. i can't think of anything. Over Netflix? Maybe. I'll be honest. I thought the Nielsen ratings was done. I thought they kind of just stopped focusing on that.
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So Nielsen ratings used to be – well, Netflix is not on not linear TV, right? So Nielsen ratings – Nielsen, the company Nielsen ratings, they they changed the way they did their business. So but oh I should have, I guess, started with that.
00:21:22
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Nielsen ratings used to be linear TV ratings. What are the viewership numbers for the linear networks? That was the idea behind Nielsen ratings. Then – Nielsen Ratings evolved.
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You evolve or you die, essentially. and That's why MySpace no longer is here. They didn't evolve. No more BlackBerry. You know what I'm saying? But Nielsen Ratings did evolve, apparently, and they tried to encompass streaming services like Netflix, hence them cracking the top three ah in June.
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And so they just think every media distributor that ever exists right now, they've actually nailed it and they actually can determine the viewership for all.
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All distributors. Can you guess it now? Does that help you? Not NBCUniversal. That's incorrect. Although,
Superman as an Immigrant: Controversy
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where is NBCUniversal in here? ah and n be Oh, crazy. NBCUniversal is number four.
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It's not the worst guess. Yeah. Good job. Well done. Thank you. Thank you, Simon. Thank you. um i don't know. I genuinely have no clue. Would I say something like... Is it like thing?
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Can you guess why it might be NBCUniversal and you just said it? i would argue that the reason why is NBCUniversal is number four is because of sports. NBC Sports. That is a big thing.
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But there are other sports...
Marvel's Future Direction: A Reset
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distributors. There's also one that doesn't distribute sports. Oh, they do in and in a roundabout way. But it's arguably one of the most popular websites in the entire world.
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And it continues to be so. And you love it. And you probably watch more on that than anything else. The YouTube? The YouTube? YouTube is 12.8%. That's great. Wow. And the second one is Disney.
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So good for them. going to guess Disney because of yeah espn That's right. ESPN is huge. Then they obviously have Disney+, plus and then they have ABC, and then you combine all that together, and you get the market share of apparently 10% of viewership. Wow. Okay. So Nielsen's aggregated view of total TV usage by media company.
Marvel's TV Strategy: Quality over Quantity
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Oh, it is TV usage. Interesting, too. So YouTube must be on... Like Apple TV and various other places. I watch YouTube. surface Like um Smart TV, etc. Like I watch YouTube on my PlayStation all the time.
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So that must, yeah, that must be counted as well. Yeah. yeah Anyway, I thought I would just throw that in here because when I saw them like Netflix only cracked the top three, like ah that's a rare thing is what this article was saying. i was like, really?
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That's interesting. Genuinely. That's genuinely interesting. They're at 8.3%. Hmm. Apparently. Yeah, it's
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apparently yeah it's I don't know. Yeah, this is an interesting thing because like. i mean, for me, like YouTube is actually like probably where I consume the most content realistically, i would say like. it Viewing content because I watch a lot of YouTube, um just like different channels, like a lot of YouTube cooking stuff.
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I watch a lot. I watch a lot of like, um you know, video game related things. um i'll I'll fall in a rabbit holes on YouTube shirt or shorts right now. I'm I'm I'm watching this guy. His name is Sergio Outdoors.
00:24:33
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And he's this like old Eastern European man. I'm assuming like um older Eastern European and man doesn't say anything in any of his videos. And he just is outdoor survival tips.
00:24:44
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um So and ah yeah, how does he deliver them without saying anything? He just shows
Content Overload: Marvel and Star Wars Challenges
00:24:49
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you. He shows you. Okay, that's cool. Yeah. And he always ends his videos where he looks directly into the camera and does a thumbs up.
00:24:56
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This guy's nices that nice. guy's nice. um Yeah. That's cool. Honestly, that makes sense. Yeah. when you're When I'm really thinking about it because i watch so much YouTube, like genuinely so much YouTube. So this makes some sense.
00:25:08
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the The YouTube I consume is mostly linear TV. Oh, really? Yeah. Because the legacy TV, I don't have – I'm a cord cutter. Like I feel like you most people are age and below.
00:25:21
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i don't purchase tv linear TV, but there's a lot of linear TV networks that post the their content on – on youtube and actually we're going to get into some of that later in the show for a brief moment um but uh yeah anyway we'll get into it but yeah it so i don't i don't watch a lot of like youtubers which is strange i watch a few with my like fiance um Like that are just kind of like general that are like actual like YouTubers as opposed to like, you know, I don't know.
Quality vs. Quantity: Media Production
00:25:54
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Yeah. Like you're Danny Gonzalez or Drew Gooden, like those kinds of guys. if youre If you're familiar with them, they came from the Vine days, so honestly. And then like yeah Chris Reagan. I don't know. Yeah. um He doesn't really make much YouTube stuff anymore, though, to be fair.
00:26:07
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But then I watch again, like it's all the cooking stuff like you're Adam Ragusea, America's Test Kitchen. I watch a lot of America's Test Kitchen, Simon. um which I think is also like a channel on TV.
00:26:19
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So like it's it's interesting. There's a lot. And also like all the late night talk show guys, that they're on YouTube as well. Not that I wont really watch them. I'm sure that's what i'm talking about. That's linear.
00:26:30
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That is linear. It goes one way. That's not... For those who don't know, because Adrian's joking, but Linear TV is referring to network TV on on YouTube in this case.
00:26:41
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But yes, ha ha ha, Adrian. Ha ha ha. But, oh, speaking of Chris Raygun, so we we both listen to Sacred Symbols. Actually, I was going to mention this. I forgot about this on the top, but I thought we had a lot to talk about, so I was going to skip
Podcast Reflections: Nuanced Opinions
00:26:55
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it. But I want to say because you mentioned it, okay?
00:26:57
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Okay. Those guys... Kind of annoying me lately. And there's a particular reason. Those guys are podcasters. ah The podcast network network they they run, Colin Moriarty and Chris Reagan, Dustin Furman.
00:27:10
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they They're running a podcast network for gaming specifically. But they sometimes get into movies and TV. what The last episode I listened to, I literally shut it off because I'm i'm getting so annoyed with this idea. And and this is not just them.
00:27:23
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But in general, I find it annoying that people present their opinion on things that they have never watched or played. It's getting me very annoying. you're very Very annoying. i Maybe I'm annoying too, but i it's getting me very annoyed.
00:27:36
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ah So one of the things that they said last episode was Disney is lame. Disney is lame. Star Wars is lame. Just blanket statement. They claim they don't watch Star Wars or Disney stuff.
00:27:50
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And the one guy actually said, oh, I did see Frozen recently. It was pretty good, actually. Really good. It's like, whoa. So you think it's lame, but the one thing you watch from them is not lame.
00:28:01
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So you didn't watch it, but you think it's lame? How can that be? And that's not them. That's everybody. That's what I claim. And we started this podcast, episode 101, and we said right out of the gate, the reason when we started this, one of the reasons, a sliver of a reason, like maybe 2% of the reason we restarted the podcast is because there's a lack of nuance on the internet. It's just so annoying.
00:28:22
Speaker
That is the literal definition of no nuance. You didn't watch it, so don't talk about it. Star Wars isn't lame as a whole. Some of it is. Rise of Skywalker is one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life.
00:28:34
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But Andor is one of the best things I've ever seen in my life. So maybe if you watch Andor, then you can claim it's lame as a whole after you watch it. That's kind of my argument. Do you want to you blanket it?
00:28:45
Speaker
The entire company of Disney, all the animated stuff, everything Disney makes, Marvel, Disney, they claim that's all lame. That's just stupid. Am I wrong? You tell me. I don't think you're wrong. i just you' just got to like take it.
00:28:58
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yeah they not Maybe not take it. um That's not the right phrase. You just got to – I don't know. Just don't let it get to you, man. Just so listen. i don't know. but I enjoy listening to there. I just don't listen anymore.
00:29:10
Speaker
That's fair. What do you mean don't listen? like Because the reason I listen to them is because of the like the amount of nuance. They have nuance when they talk about gaming. Yeah. That's a pre I appreciate it But then hypocritically, they just don't seem to have nuance.
00:29:26
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That doesn't bother you. I'm surprised. I mean, like, whatever. you like Like, it's it's a four hour podcast. And it's like they say a couple sentences that annoy me, like the the amount of enjoyment I get outweighs the the the odd negative thing that they bring up that I just simply don't agree with.
00:29:42
Speaker
like i mean I mean that's not my point, but sure. Yeah, no, no. I get it. I'm saying it's wrong. It's wrong. It's blank it wrong and there's nothing – I'm not saying that they're bad people. but See, now you're you interpreting what I'm saying as not nuanced, which is strange. No, I'm not interpreting it that way. Kind of. You're saying that I'm kind of taking it that they did that one thing and therefore I can't look at them – in any holistic way.
00:30:06
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Well, no, no, I turned it off that one time. i didn't, I'm not turning it off forever. You know what I'm saying? Right. Cause I get what you're saying. Jeez Louise. I get it. I get it. All I'm saying is just like, yeah, like again, that that and everyone will annoy you at some point or another. And it's just about like,
00:30:24
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i don't know. It doesn't bother me that much. that silly But I do agree. like I think that statement in particular is wrong. i think But they make it every time every almost every show.
00:30:34
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It's so insane. I don't understand why they're so obsessed. They're very obsessed with with dissing dis Disney and and Marvel and Star Wars. I guess Disney as a whole, but Marvel and Star Wars included.
00:30:45
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I find that very silly because it's like to me, anyone who's on top is an easy mark. You can always go for the the guys on top. Disney... Look at this. I mean, 10% Nielsen ratings yeah as a distributor. No, no. I get that. Again, and and you're like I actually wrote into their show once specifically about that topic. i don't know if you recall this like two or three years ago.
00:31:05
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That's why I'm surprised you're defending it. Yeah. And they literally – think, yeah, Colin Murray already literally told me to suck his balls on air. So like yeah um like, you know, it's like, okay, whatever. I made my piece at that point or I made my point.
00:31:19
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But no, do agree. You didn't. You didn't make your point. They didn't listen it. They made fun of you. It was annoying. At least Chris Reagan was a little bit more understanding at the very least. In this case, when Colin was calling it lame, he just agreed. I'm like, but I just don't i don't know what that opinion is. there there's It's so funny to have an opinion about something and then claim that, oh, but you know Spider-Man No Way Home, really great.
00:31:47
Speaker
It's like, well but that's not your opinion then. Because it's just like you're blanketing it all together because it's cool. It's cool to diss Disney. That is the point of It's a broad overview. to be honest, yeah it's also really cool to diss Intergalactic, something they have a serious problem with over on that show.
00:32:01
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Dissed really Intergalactic, The Heretic Prophet, the Naughty Dog game coming out, only has one trailer, completely destroyed on YouTube, just to absolutely wrecked by people who are very angry individuals, clearly.
00:32:13
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But it's like, that's kind of the same thing, actually. They're doing the same thing to Disney as people are doing the intergalactic. No one's played intergalactic. It's not even out there. They're destroying, people are destroying it in the comments. It's like whoa, calm down.
00:32:26
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Naughty Young has failed zero times in the last 25 years. So like, relax. It's a little strange, but that's kind of the same thing. I find it a little bit strange, but yeah, I don't know.
00:32:38
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I didn't expect you to defend, but yeah, okay. i' not really I don't think i was necessarily defending. I'm just kind of saying, like whatever. yeah like Yeah, it's annoying sometimes. But again, everyone annoys me.
00:32:49
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You annoy the shit out of me sometimes, Simon. know Probably right now. And I'm sure I annoy the shit out of you. wasn't really dude i get calling them out. and I'm just calling people out in general.
00:33:02
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I find it really silly. We're a new drama podcast and we're going start beef with a bunch of other podcasts and see if we can. Yeah, right. If anyone listens to this, we're going to have five. We'll just post it. We'll start posting it online. You clip this part out on Twitter exclusively, tag them all and be like, I think you're lame.
00:33:19
Speaker
i think you're lame Yeah, I think you're lame. Yeah, I might go back to their podcast, but yeah I shut it off. I shut it off. I'm like, you're lame?
00:33:30
Speaker
You're lame? I'm listening to music right now. i was I was on a big drive. Like I was driving up north. I was like, this is absurd. thought you were – I don't know. what My mind is so on Death Stranding. I was like, oh, you put on the music player in Death Stranding and you're driving up north to the Northern Distribution Center.
00:33:44
Speaker
Yeah, and tri-bike whatever they call it. Yeah. God. That guy's immaculate, dude. I've been i've been bal deep into it. Yeah, Death Stranding, excellent. You know what's interesting? I've never heard anyone's to have this take, but maybe I just haven't heard enough takes about Death Stranding because I'm trying to avoid the spoilers because there's a lot of wacky things that I haven't seen that I keep getting spoiled even on Instagram by accident.
00:34:05
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yeah um but But one of the the things that I thought about recently when playing the game is this game in the strangest way possible is almost, is kind of the most Batman I've ever felt playing a non-Batman game playing a video game.
00:34:21
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Hmm. Can you get where I'm going going with that before I explain myself? where Or maybe not. No. no I've never felt like Batman more. So Batman in the comics...
00:34:33
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He's got like, he's all about prepping. He's like planning. He's a planner. He goes in. He knows exactly what he needs. He goes to the location. is that the He's not the strongest guy at all, but he knows what he needs going into it because he's planned his route.
00:34:48
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He's planned exactly what he requires and he takes with him when he needs. The utility belt belt is a huge thing about Batman. And he's got all of these gadgets, like a crazy number of gadgets. He's almost an inspector gadget.
00:34:59
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The number of items in Death Stranding 2, is unbelievable. The things you'll probably maybe never use. There's some ridiculous things in there. Some unbelievable stuff.
00:35:09
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Like, that way ah way far and above what they gave you in the first game. Yeah. It's like, ah game director Hideo Kojima has killed it. There's like a lot in there. But like you can feel it. You just like whip out a gadget and you just got like this...
00:35:21
Speaker
You got a shotgun. i don't want to spoil the some of the fun ones, but like a yeah grenade pistol. Like, that's not that fun. But there's some crazy ones that like, okay. And then some of them like the the moves you have to fight with are like, okay, I guess I can do this now. There's just like some really crazy stuff.
00:35:37
Speaker
And of course, there's a lot of stealth aspects of it, which is very Batman-esque. And now in Death Stranding 2, where Death Stranding 1 didn't have this, there's a day-night cycle. So like, I specifically only go out at night when I'm attacking a base if there's like...
00:35:50
Speaker
armed armed survivalists as an example interesting yeah so does that make any sense or no I can kind of see where you're coming from from like a high overview you know like from from from like gadgets and like yeah but prepping i don't i yeah i don't feel like i'm batman in the sense of like i'm flying and swinging or you know like pulling people up and doing that isn't necessarily batman when i think about batman he's he's like this detective he's like this like really smart much detecting
00:36:22
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Sure, there's no detective. He's a smart dude is my point. He's going into these situations knowing exactly his enemy and he knows how a plan. And I find that like the Arkham Asylum games, Arkham Asylum City and Night, they're great games.
00:36:35
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But I don't think that they nailed that aspect of it Even the detective aspect, not necessary. There's some detecting, but not as much. But specifically the prepping aspect, barely at all. You're not really going in planning how you're going to attack the guy, like the the you the the goons you're attacking.
00:36:54
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They just show up. You're like, oh, I guess I got to take these guys out now. That's pretty much how it goes. You're doing it in the moment. Whereas like if you think about like Batman versus Superman, he plans out his entire fight with Superman before it even happens.
00:37:07
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You i'm saying
00:37:10
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He wins. Spoiler alert. Whoa. but Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. Uh, what's the next one here? Unless you got more to say about.
00:37:21
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No, I mean, we're, we're talking about DC. This actually kind of leads right into this. Perfect. Okay. Well, apparently Superman is woke now. Um, that's fun. Yeah. So, uh, the Superman movie came out. James Gunn's Superman came out last week, or I guess two weeks from when this episode aired, airs.
00:37:38
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And, um, But Superman was claimed to be an immigrant by James Gunn. Sean Gunn, his brother, claimed the same thing. And that somehow surprised people that Superman's an immigrant.
00:37:49
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So they claim that that's woke. Fox News claimed it's woke. Various other people in the internet claimed it's woke. ah Seems ridiculous to me. The box office, though, ah quite good.
00:38:01
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Quite good in contrast. So I don't know if that really matters. Although it's not as good on an international level, and that could be because of the situation with um like anti-US sentiment.
00:38:15
Speaker
Yeah. That seems to be the case. But i don't know if you had any thoughts about this, or the woke thing, or ah Dean Cain was like, oh Josh, James Gunn shouldn't have said it he's an immigrant because it's going to hurt the box office.
00:38:28
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It's like he's a fucking alien. He's an alien. we Are people babies? He's an alien from outer space. Of course, he he immigrated to Earth and and ended up landing in the United States.
00:38:42
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Yeah. yeah he's He snuck across all borders and landed there.
00:38:50
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it's 426 million dollars is the box office currently not bad not bad worldwide two weeks that's not but that's not bad at all man um yeah i don't know i i just don't care again if if someone is saying anything is woke i just immediately think they're stupid and they don't know how to put an argument together um or use words to define anything woke is such a fucking beaten to death term.
00:39:16
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um I hate it. And if you use it, you're stupid and I hate you. um Yes, you person listening. Okay, Jarrett.
00:39:29
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Jarrett. Yeah. Classic name. Everyone yeah the everyone knows Jarrett. um But yeah, no, I'm glad that it's doing relatively well. I'm not super shocked that it's not doing well outside of the US based on, I mean, hell, even up north here in Canada, there's a big anti-US sentiment, right? like And we're neighbors.
00:39:50
Speaker
um So like I'm not too surprised that it's not doing, or like that's what the, money sorry, that We're included in the North American, like domestic numbers. I know, I know. I'm just referring to in general, Simon, uh, that like, I'm not surprised that may be the reason why it's not doing well.
00:40:08
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Um, it is also, yeah, like a very like America movie. I think it's like fully banned in, in Israel. Um, which is funny because I made that reference. Um, or sorry, Israel is boycotting it or whatever.
00:40:22
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Um, which is funny because I made that comparison when we talked about the movie that there's like this, like these two nations that are kind of at war ah with one another and it's like a genocide. um So I was I was on the money with that, I think, making that comparison.
00:40:40
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ah I don't think that's again, I don't think that's guns comparison. that I feel like they them. think that they ban it them dan banning it is almost like an admission of like oh we know we know we're doing something wrong because like that's not the kind know i wouldn't even make that comparison that's so weird isn't that weird and why would you ban is that why they banned it because they think that james gunn was making it direct i didn't hear it was even banned oh damn interesting superman that's crazy what are they thinking ba no no you were right like when we when we did the review i think you were right to make the comparison but i think it was a it was an amalgamation of various wars i don't think that was the intention uh like at at all it's like it was kind of like a like yeah yeah sorry i guess it's not banned it's just they uh is like a lot of uh
00:41:30
Speaker
People were boycotting it. Oh, they're just not going to see it. Okay, well, it's... Israeli audiences are calling for boycott. Oh, I'm sure people are calling for boycotts in the United States because, again because ah you know, that's part of it too. I feel like this is the crazy thing about this is that Superman, we didn't really talk about this enough. I feel like i made a mistake of not talking about this enough on our review of Superman. I really liked the idea of the center of the movie being a kindness is kind of the moral of the story.
00:42:00
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Like Superman being very kind character. kind person and having kindness be at the center of the story as James Gunn points out many times in various interviews post movie release.
00:42:11
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I think that that is really unique in a way compared to especially Zack Snyder's Snyderverse. So now we're we're we're doing it. We're in the James james ah universe and Superman's kind.
00:42:26
Speaker
Fellas, is it woke to be nice? yeah is it yeah to Yeah, is it woke to be kind? That's the question. Well, I think that's the question they're answering. Yeah, it is woke to be nice. You can't be kind. I'm tired, man.
00:42:40
Speaker
I'm tired. But that that aspect of the movie is really great. It's one of the best parts of the movie is how much a focus there was. Like Superman, like... This Clark Kent is great in that regard.
00:42:52
Speaker
It's cool because I'm sure it will... You can, you you'll be able to juxtapose him with like people like, um, peacemaker as an example, or various other characters that are not like that.
00:43:04
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And James Gunn mentions that like in his DC, like the, the James, James, uh, universe, he's, he's making it so that the various properties are different tonally across the board is one of the goals he has.
00:43:20
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So it's cool. Yeah. Nice. Okay, cool. All right, we can move on. Unless you've got more to say about Superman. um Not necessarily about Superman, Simon. I was more so just thinking, because you have a little question here. Like, what what are we thinking about the start of Guns DCU? And I'm thinking this is really good. My question to you, though.
00:43:39
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yeah Because, ah you know, they're talking about the new Sandman movie that's coming out. Apparently it's going to be like a you know horror movie, right? You're talking about Clayface? Yeah. Sorry. what I said Sandman, didn't I?
00:43:50
Speaker
Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Clayface. Whatever. as One's Marvel. One's DC. They're pretty different though on ah on a tonal perspective, I think.
00:44:01
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ah you know Then there's a lot of talk about you know Wonder Woman fast-tracking that, yada, yada, yada. Apparently, the authority lost its writer, which I guess kind of goes to your point where you think that James Gunn's going to take over the authority and kind of go go with that movie, which is interesting.
00:44:16
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um But there's absolutely no talk about the Batman in this universe, the Brave and the Bold. like They announced Batman, Brave and the Bold.
00:44:28
Speaker
And I'm curious because there was a lot of hubbub. you know They said Bat Reeves' is Batman movie is separate. It's going to be separate from this universe. Do you think there's a chance that they're just going fold it in? You don't think so?
00:44:39
Speaker
No. It's too different tonally on ah on a like a different perspective. He just doesn't he doesn't view it that way. I think he respects what Matt Reeves has done, but I don't think he would i don't think that would be his Batman universe. Also, again, that they're running into the same potential issue as like
00:44:59
Speaker
I guess Marvel has run into with like the Eternals. Like there's like the Eternals didn't show up for Thanos for some reason. Like why is Gotham... Like, i don't know. so Gotham feels like it's siloed.
00:45:09
Speaker
And that that, I think, is a problem. I think they're going to cast the Brave and the Bold. No, they were asked. ah He was asked in another. There's so many interviews with James Gunn. James Gunn was asked an interview about Brave and the Bold. And he was asked specifically about Alan Richson.
00:45:22
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which i And he's like, oh, I really like Alan Richson, he said. I'm like, I think Alan Richson. I think Alan Richson, as much as there is no announcement and, there's again, there's no casting until a script is done, according to James Gunn.
00:45:33
Speaker
I do think Alan Richardson might be a front runner for the Batman in this universe, but I don't think Robert Pattinson will be Batman. in in the did you Do you think that? Maybe you do.
00:45:46
Speaker
think there's a possibility. I think i think there's like this this slight chance. I know they are different. there's grounded nature. There's a really grounded nature of Gotham in the Bat-Reeves universe. You know what i mean?
00:45:58
Speaker
Think about the Penguin, especially. Mm-hmm. Yeah, again, I just think there's a chance, again, because it is very different in tone. um i would I would be curious how they could fold that in together.
00:46:12
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um But again, like, I mean, there's there's so many different comic books going on all the time. You know, there's Batman comic books that are more grounded than Superman comic books, and sometimes they'll still cross over anyways.
00:46:24
Speaker
So I don't know. I think there's a chance. um But yeah, like, I don't know. yeah i would I wouldn't mind that because it – if it means that we get more bat reeves batman movies quicker um that'd be kind of nice but yeah i don't know i i'm i'm a little bit doubtful in that who would your top casting choice be though if they did cast new batman i kind of like alan richmond as a choice actually so i don't know i'm not sure it's just you need a younger batman i think um If you're going to try to... Well, I guess he's not that young, though because his child is Damien Wayne. Yeah. He's got a kid. His son might be ninja-ing about already.
00:47:04
Speaker
But you don't want, like, Ben Affleck. You know what i mean Like a Ben Affleck-aged Batman? Yeah, I guess not. I don't think you want Ben Affleck because i don't think he wants to be there. But I think you need somebody committed as well.
00:47:16
Speaker
But I don't know. It's interesting. Who would you pick? don't know. Ooh, probably. Pardon me? Dwayne the Rock Johnson. No, he's too busy being a a black Adam dude.
00:47:29
Speaker
I'm in the DCEU. That's over now. No, no, he's still coming, man. He's going to change the hierarchy of power in that universe. um ands it Yeah, I don't know. i maybe if anyone, someone like TJ Miller, you know,
00:47:50
Speaker
Yeah, sure. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, sure. that's That's my final choice. Final choice. Good to know. Okay. Great.
00:48:02
Speaker
Good to know. All right. Well, let's move on now to the next, the next I guess the other the other side of the superhero franchise coin, which is Kevin Feige's baby, the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
00:48:14
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During a press or with various Hollywood reporters, like ah the people from Variety, hollywood The Hollywood Reporter, Deadline. ah Kevin Feige teased a reset after Avengers Secret Wars that will be led by a new team of Avengers.
00:48:31
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ah He said, quote, Endgame literally was about endings. He's talking about Avengers Endgame, the movie. ah Secret Wars is about beginnings. Even Tony Stark apparently, sorry, that was an end quote.
00:48:44
Speaker
um Even Tony Stark will be be recast apparently, which is strange. And the new MCU seems to hinge off of X-Men after Secret Wars. We got three, two years after 2027 is when...
00:48:57
Speaker
This reset will potentially happen, but it also means that we probably won't see like this new X-Men or whatever their plans are until post the Avengers team-up movies by the Russo brothers. I have so many notes about what Feige said during this.
00:49:12
Speaker
Did you read any of of of what he was saying to Variety Deadline, Hollywood Reporter, and all the other? I saw headlines, but no, I didn't really dive into it. um Yeah, I could just go through them quickly and just say, have anything to say?
00:49:25
Speaker
ah but But basically, um the one thing he said, which I think is great because I think they need this. I wish he did. all The one thing I wish he said was – I'll just get this out of the way right now. He didn't talk about power hi hierarchy, which i I don't think he sees as an issue and that obviously we've pointed out many times, like knowing which heroes are more powerful than others and the fact that they just mix out that all up and somehow Sam Wilson's Captain America is like – a god without super serum, which is very strange.
00:49:53
Speaker
Seems like it's not well written, but that's just us, I guess. But one thing he he did find was that the MCU was scaling up way too fast with Disney Plus shows. So they scaled down by a massive amount.
00:50:06
Speaker
And they also scaled down the amount they like in terms of budgets, but there's way less TV shows being made. One of the reasons why Ironheart And Wonder Man were filmed and produced years ago, basically at this point, over a year ago.
00:50:21
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They were made over a year year ago and finished and not released on Disney Plus was because of the fact that they were releasing too much too quickly. And so they realized they needed to space it out. And so they've been making less content overall.
00:50:33
Speaker
don't know if you have thought about that, but I feel like that's a really good thing, I think. Yeah, I eventually tapped out as well from like the TV shows. Like I watched Daredevil Born Again. Didn't watch Ironheart, though.
00:50:45
Speaker
um Didn't watch Agatha all along. You didn't watch the best one, which is strange. Which one's the best one? Loki. Oh, yeah. Loki season two. I never finished. um What else? There's been a few others. It like kind of just got to the point where I was like, OK, OK.
00:51:01
Speaker
OK, like I've had enough, I think also like Secret Wars was just sorry. Secret Invasion was just so bad. I watched like the first couple episodes and I'm like, yeah, yeah I'm not into this. I was kind of excited because there's this really good scene in the first episode with Ben Mendelsohn and um and ah Samuel Jackson, where they're just sitting and talking on a train. I'm like, Ooh, more of this.
00:51:21
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And then they just don't do that anymore. Um, so like, don't know, at a certain point I'm like, yeah, it's just too much too fast. And it's the same thing with like, I mean, even star Wars, to be fair, I was a little bit more burnt out on star Wars because of rise of Skywalker.
00:51:33
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And there's what, like, I know you think the acolytes pretty good. Um, all things considered. And, um, know. I didn't watch Ahsoka. I didn't watch any of that stuff. The reason I'm watching Andor is because i know it's phenomenal. And I really like, you know, you you made that one recommendation to me and I fell in love with it with that first season.
00:51:52
Speaker
But yeah, I think there is, there is a thing is too much content at at a certain point. And like, sometimes I want variety. I know you mentioned that like,
00:52:03
Speaker
Star Wars is a genre and you can kind of like create a bunch of different stories within it and as long as it's good, you know, it's worth watching. And I i do agree with that to a certain point.
00:52:14
Speaker
But when everything is so in like everything is technically connected and everything is still happening within one universe, there is like a level of like. where you want to know everything because there's so much. It's like, well, why am I spending all this time kind of catching up? And then, you know some things aren't as great as others.
00:52:32
Speaker
And again, I, like I, I will blame rise of Skywalker as much as I love Andor. And then like, I think Andor season two is immaculate. Like there is something in the back of my head. was like, all this leads to fucking rise of Skywalker 30 years later. And that kind of sucks or 60 years later, however many years later, right? Like it's, it, there is like a,
00:52:53
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there's a downside to releasing so much content. So if they slow things down and just focus on quality, release one, two shows a year of really high quality, that I think will make it a little bit easier of bringing more people back in.
00:53:08
Speaker
Um, because honestly, like with the Marvel shows, not all of them are great. Like I think, I mean, even the earlier ones, like WandaVision was really good until the end. I thought the end was kind of botched.
00:53:21
Speaker
Um, What was the other one that that came out? ah Falcon and the Winterman. It's essentially purposeless because those characters have no growth, even in Captain America, the fourth Captain America with the Red Hulk.
00:53:36
Speaker
Sam Wilson's in the exact same position as he was at the start of that show anyways. Just complaining. Just like, I'm not ready. hey It's crazy to think that Captain America Brave New World, Captain America 4, it had sold more box office tickets than Thunderbolts.
00:53:51
Speaker
Yeah. and It sucks because it's excellent. Yeah. yeah And it's interesting too, because I saw like a thing that Kevin Feige also talked about how he thinks Thunderbolts didn't do well because so many of these characters were in Disney Plus shows or originated from Disney Plus shows.
00:54:07
Speaker
yeah And I don't necessarily agree with that statement alone because wasn't only, what's his name? um Wyatt Russell. The only character.
00:54:19
Speaker
Character introduced in a show that hasn't been in a movie. Introduced in a show. um Because Florence Pugh and David Harbour, they were in the Black Widow movie, technically. Yeah, I think what Feige was saying, though, to be fair, was he was he was making a reference to homework.
00:54:37
Speaker
He's saying that like the problem is is that we've got so much content and you kind of have to you have to keep up with it. And if you don't keep up with it, you which is really point you point you just made, Yeah. um to be honest because that's the same thing with films too potentially you go to the theaters whatever and you don't see the the movie or the tv show that that you need to to watch to understand the rest of the plot that's not the way that they were really built according to fige but the problem is when there's that much content like how do you possibly make, make the audience know that they're not doing like, they're not, they don't have to do research before they jump into the next film.
00:55:15
Speaker
And so that was the claim about Thunderbolts. You're right though, that it, that does seem to be right about Wyatt Russell, but it's hard to keep track. I think that's the point where it's a team up movie of, they're not, none of those, none of those characters are Captain America.
00:55:28
Speaker
They're, they're all B, B characters. Yeah. the B roster, all of them, that was the whole point of it. That's why that's the whole idea. It's a, it's a crappy team is the whole point.
00:55:40
Speaker
And so if they're all B characters, you do have to kind of pay attention. It's like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, I'm sorry. Who, who's this person who can kind of phase in and out of walls?
00:55:50
Speaker
Do I, am I supposed to remember who that is? Ant-Man 2. She's from Ant-Man 2. Right. But how long ago was that? Right. Like ghost was so long ago. Yeah. And so it's like, you have to keep track of all of these random side characters. That's kind of the point I think he was making.
00:56:06
Speaker
Yeah. And so like the, they have to make it more deliberate in their choices. The quality over quantity is also a part that he was specifically mentioning. Uh, that was super important. Um,
00:56:16
Speaker
And he also doesn't like things sitting on shelves like Ironheart. That was not intentional. They they did that because they they spread themselves thin because there was a company directive specifically for Disney Plus content that they had to make a lot of Disney Plus content to sell Disney Plus. That was therere their goal.
00:56:30
Speaker
That's what Bob Chappick told him to do. And they started to do that. And it was a mistake is basically what he said in not that many words. He didn't say Bob Chappick or blame anyone. um But anyway, yeah.
00:56:43
Speaker
But yeah, you you kind of mentioned that though. That was kind of the your problem with it. they're just a bunch of B characters. It's funny that you haven't watched Loki though, a little bit, because it is the best one. there I think largely the TV shows were pretty good.
00:56:56
Speaker
Pretty good. But you don't want pretty good. You want excellent. that's what that like That's pretty good in this landscape is ah is ah is a death sentence and a reality. There's too much content out there. There's too much stuff. There's too much you amazing content you is the issue. Like Andor.
00:57:10
Speaker
Like Andor. Like... andor link I mean, we're we'll talk about a bunch of amazing shows that came out this year or late last year alone, right? um Because we're going to be talking about the Emmys a little later.
00:57:20
Speaker
And there's just been so much amazing TV and the expectation of being able to keep up with all of that. And then also watching some performances. pretty good stuff is just, it's absurd.
00:57:33
Speaker
And not only that that, like both you and I, we're fans of movies. So we go to the movies a lot, right? though That's not as big of a time commitment, you know, maybe two, three hours, ah you know, on a day, just go to the theater, cool, watch that.
00:57:45
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um But on top of that, we play video games and there's, I mean, dude, the past like couple of years for video games in general, I've been bananas, especially for me. Like last year was crazy for me.
00:57:57
Speaker
And this year is already off an amazing start. Like I'm what, like 80, 90 hours in a death stranding. I'm like, I'm nearing the end, I think. But it's like, i don't know, man. Like if I have some free time, like I'm going to be playing that fucking video game instead of sitting down watching a relatively OK TV show.
00:58:12
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You know what i mean yeah Yeah, that's the reason like people always say to me, always like, why do you care about Rotten Tomatoes scores? It's like, you know how much stuff there is? you just putting on something? like i don't I'm not one to go through Netflix and just like, what's on today? And just scroll through. I don't do that at all. I just don't do that. it's That's a dumb way to watch TV shows, in my opinion.
00:58:33
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I look at Rotten Tomatoes. I stra strategize, like, what am I interested in seeing? Like, i where they really want to see Poker Face as an example. Yeah. think it's Like it was like a lot, like it's gotta be like, if it's not an 80 or above, it has to be a recommendation from somebody that like, this is a one underrated. Like you gotta watch it. It's really good. Like that's that's kind of where my um mind's at.
00:58:51
Speaker
I'm not choosing, Rotten Tomatoes is not flawless in any capacity capacity. It's quite fallible actually, but that's not the point of it. The idea is having review scores helps me weed out the crap because I don't have time.
00:59:03
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the and just don't have time. As you just said, we just don't have that much time in a day. And so my backlog of shows, my backlog of games, my backlog of movies is built upon good review scores, word of mouth, people are who I trust who recommend things to me, that type of thing. That's the whole point.
00:59:20
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So yeah, I will say in contrary to what you said about Star Wars, I actually find Marvel and Star Wars to be a little different in terms of jumping into them because i do find that Star Wars has done a really good job of separating timelines quite well and that there's a lot of different timelines that each of the individual shows or movies follow.
00:59:38
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So as much as you're right, Andor does lead into Rise of Skywalker, I guess, eventually. it really leads into 1977 Star Wars more than anything else, I guess. um Reality is really what the whole goal is. It culminates in like in the the sort destruction of the Death Star is the high whole highlight, whole idea.
00:59:58
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So I find that Marvel, though, the problem with Marvel is that they they love the... Oh, look who it is. at it. It's Charlize Theron. yeah Like, look who it is. It's, it's, it's, it's Dr. Strange again for some reason. Oh oh yeah. Look who it is.
01:00:17
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It's, it's fricking the, the guard, one of the guardians of the galaxy that you loved in that move one movie. It's like, it's like, okay, okay. Relax. but like That's a lot of what the movie is, and that's kind of... Those movies are, and that's where they kind of They almost have to stop doing that a little bit, and actually, and somewhere in my notes here is written here.
01:00:34
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Feige also mentioned specifically with Fantastic Four First Steps. That's one of the things that was great about it. The new Fantastic Four characters are in another timeline because... They don't want that issue.
01:00:45
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There is no worry about, oh, why didn't why didn't Thor come and help in this situation? But because they're in another another timeline. And you can tell that in the trailer. It's like yeah literally, it's a retro futuristic aesthetic, which is so cool.
01:00:59
Speaker
So cool. I'm so excited about Fantastic Four First Steps. I know it's aired already, audience listening. But we will watch it in due time and review it. But it looks really great.
01:01:10
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But yeah yeah, I'll continue unless you've more to say. No, continue, please. Those points. please Okay. ah Cool. Please. ke Kevin's lesson from Superman is that superhero fatigue is nonsense. He likes how Gunn throws you right into a detailed world right away, which we talked about on the our review.
01:01:26
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So one of the points that we both brought up is this idea of it. It actually is like Star Wars, like 1977 Star Wars. You're thrown in. You're like, what? These people live in the igloos um in the desert? Oh, there's two suns? Oh, there's weird people with like...
01:01:39
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kind of like butts on their face. yeah They have butts for faces? Crazy. There's just like this element of it. It's just that you're thrown into it and you just like, hold on tight.
01:01:50
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and And it's really cool. It's like they're space wizards? It's neat. it's It's awesome. And that's kind of what James Gunn did with like Mr. Terrific and the the team of – what are they called again? The Rogue Gallery, the the Outlaws, the the Super – Justice guest this Gang. Gang. Justice Gang, yeah.
01:02:07
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The Justice Gang in that movie, really entertaining. And the fact that like Superman is not an origin story, that they kind of start you in the middle of it. It's cool. And I think that's really neat. And I think that him not believing a superhero fatigue is real – I believe that too.
01:02:21
Speaker
But I said this with Star Wars again. Make good stuff. Don't make shit. And then people will come watch it. That's the key. That's the key. I agree.
01:02:33
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I agree with that, Simon. but Make good stuff. Yeah. Don't make shit. Don't make shit, dude. Don't don' make shit. Unless into toilet. Okay.
01:02:44
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So, um that's what else do I have here? That's actually very, that's a very good point. That's like super, that's a good line there, dude. Incredibly insightful.
01:02:54
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Unless into toilet. Yeah, like that. you. Don't make shit unless into toilet. Simon Eadie. Put that on the shirt. All right. these These notes are too tiny. I need to work on on making these notes not so tiny, you know?
01:03:09
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um But okay, so, oh, apparently the Doctor Doom pivot away from Kang is but not because of Jonathan Major's troubles with the law initially. it It was actually, they were thinking about it beforehand, when ah before Quantumania came out, which I think you shouldn't even be shaking your head because you don't like that movie. So it makes sense that they saw the movie and you're hmm, maybe we should pivot.
Kang's Impact and Legal Issues with Jonathan Majors
01:03:36
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But apparently they thought that Kang wasn't big enough. That is like, nobody really cares about Kang. He's just not a big enough character for people to really care. And the buildup has not been good enough. And everyone kind of cares about Dr. Doom already.
01:03:48
Speaker
And he's a pretty monumental villain. So they were thinking about doing it. They weren't sure, but they're like, ah maybe we're gonna maybe maybe we should do something. And then the like obviously Jonathan Majors had trouble with the law. And then they're like, okay, I guess we have to.
01:04:00
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it It seems to be what Kevin Feige was suggesting. so suggest Yeah. Yeah, I guess there is like a point that like Ant-Man and gang literally beat Kang in a fight in like the first movie that he's in.
01:04:12
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Yeah. But it does end and there's like a million Kangs on like an island or whatever. And then I guess like he's in Loki as That was still the strategy. They weren't sure. They were like, maybe we should change. But like the idea that there's no build up to him – is i kind of I just don't agree with that because there was buildup and then obviously he got arrested.
01:04:33
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There's absolutely no buildup to Doctor Doom at all. yeah At all. Like, I don't know about- did I misspeak? It's not about buildup. Maybe I misunderstood. It's about monumental villain.
01:04:43
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Like a big figure, like a Thanos-like figure. Okay. Like big up buildup is not really the thing.
Spider-Verse Series Delays: Mixed Feelings
01:04:51
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Oh, I thought you said something along that line. Maybe I did. You just said that there's been no buildup to- him but yeah i built as in like he's not built up like he's just not in a lower perspective people don't care about okay yeah fair enough touche there's also like this idea of like there's so many of them and there's also he's been in loki and it's like there's there's like which which one's the real one and they don't seem that tough none of them seem that tough is that is that they're not really that's a lack of build up like a build up on a hype perspective
01:05:22
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you have to hype him up thanos doesn't lose multiple times before he goes and fights there's no losing before he gets to infinity war yeah that's kind of the idea yeah fair enough um okay what else do i got uh live action miles morales not happening until spider verse series is done don't know if you saw that i heard that as well i heard that as well um yeah it makes sense that's got delayed by the way end of june end of june 2027 yeah like it was delayed by yeah two weeks it was like a two-week delay or something from yeah it was like the beginning of june Yeah.
01:05:53
Speaker
It's interesting. I'm kind of like, that first Spider-Verse movie was really good. Like, i I loved it. And then they waited a while for the second one to come out. And then they made the promise of the third one coming out a year after that.
01:06:07
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Yeah. And it's like they... What a mess. it's It's I think I feel bad because, ah you know, obviously there's a lot of animators that are putting in like the work to do it. And those movies are visually stunning and they are quite interesting. And I'll probably go rewatch them to build up that hype um when we're, yeah you know, leading into this, that this third one.
01:06:27
Speaker
But like, that's two years from now, dude. it was the other one came out, what, two, three years ago at this point. Like, Do I care that much? ah Maybe.
01:06:37
Speaker
right Right at this moment, I don't. But like when it when it comes out, maybe I'll care. But like I feel like I have a vivid memory of like not loving that second one that like that much. I thought it was good and getting visually stunning, but I feel like I have a memory of thinking like, I thought the flash movie was a more fun movie and that I had more enjoyment out of it.
01:06:59
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I feel like I had that thought. Maybe, maybe I'm totally wrong. And maybe it was just like this in the moment thing that I thought that recency bias coming out of the flash. But, um, yeah, i don't know.
01:07:12
Speaker
I don't know, man. Um, ah Like I just i don't really care too too much. i I do find it odd though that they're so hesitant to allow a Miles Morales on the line like on the big screen, like live action, um until that franchise is done.
01:07:31
Speaker
But I mean it kind of makes sense because Sony was so averse it's putting so a Spider-Man in any of their Spider-Man villain movies. Yeah. So I don't know, man. it may The people at Sony like making these like decisions, there's something off of them.
01:07:48
Speaker
I'm telling you right now, there's something off of them. It doesn't make sense based on what you just said. Yeah. How can it be that they won't put Miles Morales as a live action figure in the Spider-Man Marvel slash Disney, sorry, Disney Marvel Sony movies?
01:08:06
Speaker
But they literally have been making crappy movies for 10 years. None of them were good. None of the side movies were good. None of them. Not one.
01:08:18
Speaker
The Venom movies were fine. Like, fine. They were passable. Craven was apparently horrible. It's like a 7% of Rotten Tomatoes or something. Yeah, I showed you the scene with my mouth. Yeah, oh, there's also that. The CG, yeah, unbelievable.
01:08:32
Speaker
some like they They couldn't get one of the actors and they CG'd their mouth saying different words like over a voiceover. them Maybe they recorded it at home on their iPhone. Who knows?
Sony's Spider-Man Spinoffs: Quality Concerns
01:08:41
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But it's messed up. there is There is a serious issue with that.
01:08:44
Speaker
So the fact that they have some standards now and they can't but allow Disney to put Miles Morales into their movies, like... What are you talking about? It doesn't make sense. Yeah, Morbius. There was Morbius. That was really, really, really, really really really really bad.
01:08:58
Speaker
That was like a really bad dude. don't you think it was worse than Madame Web. I got to be real. I think Morbius because of Fall is the Marvel. No, I didn't, but it's reviewed worse. Is Morbius reviewed better? Maybe I'm wrong.
01:09:10
Speaker
i have no I have no idea. I didn't watch Madame Web, so i can yeah I can't make that statement, Simon. you know I'm not going to say that Disney's lame here when I haven't watched all the movies, okay? More of this is 15%. Never mind.
01:09:23
Speaker
But you're not saying – that's the thing that I'm – that was the point at the top of this, though. I know, being facetious. I know, but I'm not saying that it's not okay okay to say that like certain properties are bad.
01:09:34
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You can say one thing's bad over another. That's that's fine. Just don't claim like a blanket statement that something's bad because you haven't seen it. It's like, it feels like it's like a FOMO situation when people do that.
01:09:46
Speaker
Like, oh, I have no time to watch that, but it's all bad. It's like, no. It's funny because I think people recommend it and or to those hosts, which is quite strange um on that show.
01:09:58
Speaker
Anyway, okay. ah Blade is still happening apparently. Crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. I'm ah i'm genuinely shocked. But okay. I guess we'll wait for that.
01:10:10
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ah Yeah, anyway. my Marvel... and i didn't I don't know if I knew this until like this year. But anyway. Marvel basically just changes their scripts constantly in post and throughout the production. like Constantly. it's like it's like ah It's a thing they do. And Kevin Feige calls it plussing.
01:10:29
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like They just keep plussing the script. They keep changing it, plussing it every turn is the point. They're changing it, adding it, making things better, making sure that the characters who have done a character study on the character, sorry, the actors who have done a character study on the characters they're playing can add to the characters in some meaningful way as well.
01:10:47
Speaker
Having the writers rewrite. Michael Waldron apparently is writing apparently coming in to help write Avengers ah Doomsday um alongside Stephen McFeely, who wrote like the Avengers Affinity War and
Kevin Feige's Collaborative Script Refinement
01:11:00
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Endgame.
01:11:00
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So like they've got like somebody else coming in to just even make it even better. So um Michael Waldron of Loki, Loki writing fame. He's a showrunner on Loki, I believe.
01:11:14
Speaker
um But yeah, that's something. So that's that's just interesting because when you look at James Gunn's strategy, that was the thing that actually they asked about. ah They asked Kevin Feige in the room there. They're like, oh, well, James Gunn, he doesn't do anything until – what's up?
01:11:29
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You had some like a thumbs bubble. but Oh, I give the thumbs up thing in the video. I was make it happen to me. but Yeah, I don't know why. You can never force it. It can only happen randomly. Yeah, the Zencaster has some strange thing where you put a thumbs up and the thumbs up comes up on screen. But anyway, James Gunn doesn't do anything until he launches a script.
01:11:45
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like He doesn't need to even do casting or whatever. that's kind of what Kevin Feige does too. Kevin Feige claims that he's never really he never started a movie without a script, but then they just keep changing it and making it better and better and better.
01:11:56
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And that's like a thing that apparently disney Walt Disney used to do is that you just keep you keep making things better over time by collaboration, et cetera.
01:12:06
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Anyway. Yeah. Okay. We talked about this. kind of Well, I mentioned it, but we didn't really talk
MCU Reset Plans: Impact Debate
01:12:13
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about it. Jake Schreier's X-Men will be a MCU reset after Avengers Secret Wars, apparently.
01:12:18
Speaker
And it looks like they're going to go to a singular timeline. which is interesting. They're like going to merge everything together to go to a singular timeline, which just seems to be what's insinuated, which is weird.
01:12:30
Speaker
What's not in the timeline right now?
01:12:34
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What do you mean? like They're saying that he's merging everything into a singular timeline. Is it only Fantastic Four in a different timeline?
01:12:43
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No.
01:12:46
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Definitely not. well Loki, obviously. but But yeah. And then also, no, because there is... Multiple timelines going on, yeah. Multiverse of Madness. There's also the many different Loki timelines.
01:13:02
Speaker
Oh, bless you. But yeah, there's like multiple timelines that throughout that they've shown off. And then they're merging them in that they're going to take the best of all worlds and then recast what they can if they need to.
01:13:13
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That's the plan. Apparently. Interesting. Yeah. That could help though, because their issue is that because of they all the timelines, people can't keep track as well. It's too many characters as well, which is hurting their box office numbers theoretically.
01:13:27
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I think that's also part of it. Like there's too many characters that you have to keep track of. and it's like, which character are you really is beloved at this point? Like you had Tony Stark, Iron Man and a lot of things and it was helpful.
01:13:38
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I think it helps sell your properties.
Marvel's Character Development Issues
01:13:41
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And so I think that that's part of it too. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I find it interesting. Like I'm up two minds about this like sort of reset, quote unquote.
01:13:52
Speaker
It's because they have been setting up so many characters, like additional characters and everything. This seems like a purely financial decision, oddly enough. How so? Because like you're setting up characters like, you know, Simu Liu in Shang-Chi.
01:14:06
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Like he's he's like kind of present, but he hasn't had anything since like. Yeah. like How is it financial to reset though? Isn't that kind of a risk? It could people go both ways.
01:14:17
Speaker
I feel like it's more creative decision. I think right it's not that much of a risk because it seems like things are kind of going down as opposed to up. I don't think so. I think that they have the chance to have only up now. because Maybe. They have two Avengers movies directed by the Russos with a massive cast for both.
01:14:35
Speaker
I feel like there's – and Fantastic Four is slated to – it's supposed to make over – 150 million dollars on weekend one so i think that's good for for that movie i'm just saying in general like it just seems like marvel is kind of going down and so like but because there is no connection to the this new cast of characters that have been brought in i guess it makes sense to reset and like recast like the previous you know popular characters but i feel like it's kind of tough like is this really going to bring people back
01:15:06
Speaker
is Is my question or is it meant to captivate and or capture a new audience? Because I don't know, maybe that'll be the thing. But you've you've spent so much time cultivating a new cast of characters that haven't really... i think so. Again, with like Shang-Chi, Kate Bishop, um you know, Florence Pugh. Kate Bishop's even going to be in the Avengers Doomsday.
01:15:28
Speaker
Well, that's my point, man. It's like you've had these characters and you're not utilizing them. They're not cultivating. more That's the issue. They're not cultivating. Their issue is they're not cultivating them. They're doing a bad job nurturing the characters. They're throwing characters in one-off things and like helter-skelter nonsense. They're just throwing them like – I don't know.
01:15:48
Speaker
To me, it's like having a crystal ball to determine whether it's a financial decision because they the the financial decision is to do Avengers movies. ah You're going to make billions of dollars, theoretically, in the ah two Avengers movies coming up.
01:16:01
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that That, I think, is the financial move. Then resetting is kind of a risk.
Marvel's Post-Endgame Direction: Risky Resets
01:16:07
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You're also claiming you're resetting it before you even do Avengers. So by the time everyone now loves the characters, then you're going to reset. That doesn't sound financially viable to me. This sounds like a creative one and in some aspects.
01:16:19
Speaker
Because at that point, you've now – like you just basically set up this massive event movie and then you reset It's like what – like dude, now you just finally hit your stride yeah and then you're just going to throw it out the window.
01:16:33
Speaker
it It seems almost like – It's not like – It almost seems creative versus – Is it a reset within the universe though? Like is that kind of what they're – Inclining, are they they talking about like a reboot? Like a reset like that? reboot. He said it's not a reboot. It's a bad word, he said. He didn't like the word it's like a reset within universe. I don't know. Because I think they've done this in the comic books, like, you know, kind of resetting the timeline. That's the Because they have like the ultimate universe and other universe and kind of bring it in. I do find it weird, though, that like you would bring back like a Tony Stark, though.
01:17:00
Speaker
I don't know if we need that. i don't think they need it. Yeah, they shouldn't do it. Yeah. That one I don't really care for. But the Captain America, I think Steve Rogers is potentially what they want to do. But even then, like you've you've set up Sam to Captain America. Not well. Not well.
01:17:14
Speaker
And then you know there's also Bucky that could eventually take over. like I think people general generally like him. um I don't want Bucky to take over. Sam Wilson should keep it, but they need to get their shit together with ah the writing.
01:17:27
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But from the sounds of it, he's not going to keep it because if they just bring it back, it's Steve Rogers on who the fuck cares? Potentially, yeah. That's kind of my point. It's weird. that That was a strange thing about it. Yeah. what Why...
01:17:38
Speaker
Why do this at all? It is a little weird. But that's like what? I don't know that's financial though. Like are you going what are you to You're recasting it. the The thing that's beloved is Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark. what i mean? Like that's not what's beloved about resetting.
01:17:54
Speaker
Like it's, there's almost nothing there. And you're doing it, I think for creative reason more than anything else. Sorry, what are you saying? Like a new starting point, making it easier to jump back in. They say it's like – Yeah, again, they claimed it was – Again, Endgame was an ending. This is a beginning. that That's the problem with Endgame. We talked about this before too.
01:18:12
Speaker
Endgame is an issue because it basically shuts down all the plot threads. They close them all off beautifully, but then they had nothing to go off. and ah In a TV show format, when you're making a TV series, when you end a season, you end you end it with lots of threads that can be pulled at. Like Severance Season 2 is like – Oh my God, you have too much to go off of.
01:18:34
Speaker
that's That's kind of the thing. like It's beautiful because you have so many plot threads you can pull at for season three. That's the beauty of that. so like I feel like they're they kind of screwed that up in Endgame because they didn't really set any villain up that was potentially like more difficult to face than and like
Marvel's Villain Challenges Post-Endgame
01:18:52
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than Thanos. And I think that that was a mistake.
01:18:54
Speaker
They just kind of just like let that... And then they're just talking about the, should have been talking about the multiverse immediately. Like the first thing they did was it like, oh, multiverse. Oh, there's this big villain and here he is. And here's what it is. And they just didn't do that. And it's like, I feel like you're making a mistake. Like you need to kind of build into it immediately instead of again, having the one direction guy in it.
01:19:15
Speaker
Like why do we need these cameos? It doesn't make any sense. Like cameo things that people are going to be really hyped and excited about, not What's One Direction guy's name again? He's good. Harry Styles. It's okay.
01:19:26
Speaker
Yeah, Harry Styles, right. Other than the accent and the Florence Pugh movie. Directed by Olivia Wilde. What was that called again? don't know. We talked about it the other week and... Yeah, like weeks Not good.
01:19:38
Speaker
Not good. Yeah, yeah. But it wasn't the acting that was the issue. was the writing. from my perspective, other than his accent, which was weird because it kept going in and out of British and American.
01:19:50
Speaker
Okay. um But yeah, that's pretty much it. Anything else you want to add? Any other thoughts? I'm excited about this though. I don't know. I'm excited about it all generally, to be honest. I don't know. I'm not that jaded, I guess, and about this. i like I trust you until you screw up.
01:20:05
Speaker
And when you have a secret invasion, i'm like, this is a piece of shit. I don't know why you wasted my time. um and then But they already screwed up a bunch? By this point, why do you still trust them?
01:20:18
Speaker
Is it just because you you trust the creator's individual? like and You trust the Russo brothers? or I'm not trusting anyone. I guess ah I'm optimistic. like I'm just like optimistic in general because it's exciting. Why why why is everyone... Everyone say hates everything. it's just it's like ah It's fun to hate everything. Again, this is one of those things.
01:20:35
Speaker
I don't trust anyone, literally. ah literally don't trust anyone. but the idea is like the and the The guy who made... um secret invasion i'm never gonna watch anything he makes ever again that's for sure it's horrible but uh but the idea is like i feel like everyone should be kind of taken on on a neutral ground until you do something like but again that's a not nuanced oh disney marvel messed up once oh five times out of 20 times oh i guess now they're garbage No, there's Guardians the Galaxy 3. There's ah Spider-Man No Way Home. There's Loki. There's Daredevil Born Again.
01:21:10
Speaker
but i like the Moon Knight just fine. I think miss marvel Ms. Marvel is good. I think Thunderbolts is great. um like ah Really, really great. like Awesome. One of the best things they've put out in a while. but Why is it... Again, like, well, they made a few bad things, and now it's... Now Marvel's shit.
01:21:27
Speaker
Disney's lame now because they made... Like, no. Yeah, I just think yeah any the difference is like when you had such a good track record initially. like When you think about that first like run of MCU movies...
01:21:39
Speaker
There were some not like amazing ones, but I don't think there was anything that was bad. like I think Thor The Dark World, I guess you can make the argument, was a bad movie. But like I still found it enjoyable enough. It's whatever. There's a weird elf guy um or whatever the fuck happens in that movie.
01:21:56
Speaker
But I think like you just had hit after hit after hit after hit after hit going all the way up until Endgame. And the buildup was so... Immaculate, right? So you start this new, like you finish it, it's an ending, as as you mentioned, or as as Kevin Feige mentioned, and you start this new universe with no direction, they're throwing spaghetti noodles at the wall, seeing what sticks, adding a bunch of different plot threads, and when these movies come out,
01:22:28
Speaker
And not not only are they unfocused on the direction of the universe, like where it's going to go, but some of them are downright bad. Some of the TV shows are downright bad and not worth watching, like genuinely awful stuff.
01:22:40
Speaker
i'm I think it makes sense that you'd be a little bit jaded and be like, all right, you know what? I had my, I had a great time with that, you know, ah first few phases. That's my MCU. That's where I'm bound out.
01:22:53
Speaker
I don't really want to watch anymore. I don't necessarily think you should be on the internet being like, I hate everything. Fuck them. blah, bla blah, blah. Like, no, no, thats that's obviously not my point, but I don't blame anyone for being like, all right, I'm done.
01:23:05
Speaker
You know, uh, like I'm out. I think that's an okay mentality to have. I'm sure, but that's not what most people are doing. I know. I know. I'm just saying general. Someone who's bowing out completely after Endgame. Like, you know, i'm i'm I'm not as interested in anymore. That's different than like, that again, that the vocal people are very vocal. Like there's like this, like it's garbage.
01:23:28
Speaker
It's shit. Also, Kevin says something really cool. He said that like – When you make something very successful like we did with the the run until endgame, if you don't take risks, you're kind of it's like a wasted
Defending Marvel's Risk-Taking: Innovation Needed
01:23:41
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opportunity.
01:23:41
Speaker
something Something along those lines. It's like, yeah, so you took a risk in in Eternals. We like Eternals. So are you good? Yeah, sorry.
01:23:53
Speaker
Like we liked Eternals, right? Yeah. No, I did enjoy Eternals. Majority of people didn't, right? Yeah. Didn't. Didn't. Talk to anybody? Did not like Eternals. So like we that's like a risk they took.
01:24:04
Speaker
It was like a balancing thing. Like it was a middling movie for some people. They didn't like it. You really liked it, as you said before. yeah like Yeah. You take a risk. Some people liked Captain... I've talked to people who like Captain America Brave New World.
01:24:16
Speaker
I guess it's fine. Like, is yeah, I don't know. Like I, I feel like the, the largely the success of up until end game was are also the same movie over and over and over again.
01:24:28
Speaker
I don't want that. I don't want that at all. I think that's more boring than what they're doing now. Actually. Honestly, I don't want to see so ah Dr. Strange slash Iron Man slash Black Panther slash Ant-Man over and over again. It's tiring.
01:24:41
Speaker
I don't care. I don't care. and I'm not here for the theme park film. That's a good example of what a theme park film is. You're not really writing a plot. You can basically get ChatGPT to write the same plot again. i don't care.
01:24:52
Speaker
That's not the not why I'm in it. I'm in it for the risks. I'm in it for the interesting stories Chloe Zhao might tell in Eternals. And I'm a patient guy. I'm okay with it not being perfect all the time because that's what creativity is.
01:25:06
Speaker
like They're not really... Yeah, I don't know. I'm good with it. ah ah But yeah, I'm never going to say don't – oh, you better watch them all. That's never my been my point. ah The point is that, again, it's not lame because there's lots of great things in there like Guardians the Galaxy 3, which was excellent.
01:25:24
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, one of the best MCU movies. so So it's worth watching piecemeal each one that you find interesting. And if they can't make it so that it makes sense vi and viably on a financial level, that's their problem. they They need to lower their budgets because their budgets were ballooning really badly post-COVID.
01:25:42
Speaker
And they fixed that a little bit because they're like two-thirds of what they were before, apparently. So that's cool. But yeah, I'm not going to tell people to... keep watching it. but yeah So you're jaded is what you're saying yourself or you're kind of talking in a devil's advocate sort of way?
01:25:56
Speaker
a More so devil's advocate. I mean, I'm chronic of excited for Fantastic Four. I'm going to watch it. Because I was like, I'm really excited about it and you're like, well, why should you be? That's not what I was saying. I was just saying like it makes it makes sense why some people wouldn't be.
01:26:10
Speaker
um But yeah, know no. like I'm pretty excited for Fantastic Four. I think it's going to like I'm not chomping You know, like I'm not like drooling out the mouth for it, but I'm going to enjoy it when we sit down and watch it.
01:26:28
Speaker
Okay. Hopefully. Hopefully enjoy it. I guess I'm being a little bit premature. Who knows? Maybe we'll even review it soon. Right. Okay.
01:26:38
Speaker
Well, last bit of quick quick bite news. um This is a strange one. You click the link, I assume, based on your expression earlier. But this is an Apple TV show coming to Apple TV, obviously, Apple TV+. plus And the the the the social media post is basically just a yellow Petri dish with a smile and a Q-tip.
01:27:00
Speaker
And it says, happiness is contagious. And there's like a timer. ah This is the YouTube video actually on on yeah on Instagram. There was no timer, but there's a countdown for like a live stream it seems like.
01:27:12
Speaker
And this is Vince Gilligan's next project. So the creator of Breaking Bad is making something for Apple TV+. plus I think we knew about this because i feel like we talked about this at some point. Yeah. um I'm a big fan of Vince Gilligan.
01:27:24
Speaker
So I'm super curious to see what he does. Yeah.
01:27:30
Speaker
But yeah, any thoughts on this? I don't know i know if you have any predictions as to what the heck this is. I have no idea what this is going to be, dude. I don't know if there's stuff online about it. I think maybe there was and that I read a little bit about it, but I don't remember it.
01:27:44
Speaker
So i'm kind of glad I don't. i'm Dude, I'm stoked. Why wouldn't I be? Vince Gilligan, he made two of the best TV shows out there. with Breaking Bad and then something that I think is even better and Better Call Saul, right? Like, and so yeah, 100%, I'm all in on this, man.
01:28:00
Speaker
I'd be shocked if it was anything less than great. you um And yeah, I don't know, like, what is this? Is this science stuff? what What is this? hat is it Is he going just a comedy route?
01:28:12
Speaker
Just a lighthearted comedy route? There's a lot of good comedy in it. Who knows? Maybe. Maybe. Yeah. do Do you have any idea what this is going be? What this could be? No, no. I looked it up briefly, but it just seemed like nobody knew what it was exactly.
01:28:26
Speaker
Damn. Yeah, it's cool. Apple TV Plus is kind of killing it, based on the Emmy nominations as well. We'll get into that. but Yeah. It seems like they potentially will win Best Drama and Best Comedy. um So we'll see, but we'll talk about that in a second.
01:28:38
Speaker
ah Before we get into that though. Yeah. Oh yeah. By the way, I guess I should just mention this again. of course, this episode is being recorded on the 23rd of July. The episode is releasing on July 29th. So the, the, whatever this happiness is contagious tease is, it will be revealed by the time, obviously this episode releases our episode.
01:28:56
Speaker
I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. the time our podcast episode releases. So we'll see, but it's interesting. We'll, we'll, we'll see. Cool. but But yeah, with all the – I guess like with all the Marvel and DC stuff we looked at, do you think there is like – it's going to get a little busy in the superhero space? It's interesting. Like Feige's like – I forgot to say that. Like Feige was saying that superhero fatigue – It doesn't exist.
01:29:21
Speaker
I'm just curious, actually. I was thinking about this in context of Vince Gilligan as well, just because I'm thinking like people always say, this is something I hear it constantly. I think you do too. It's like, there's nothing original anymore. It's just franchises.
01:29:33
Speaker
And when we look at DC and MCU, obviously that's something like there's nothing original anymore. It could be said, but that I also think is ostensibly false. like I think we agree with that idea that yeah there's a lot of original content. If you go to theaters and actually watch the films that are out, instead of just being marketed to and then just choosing to go to the marketed movies, there's lots of content constantly, lots of incredible movies from create incredible creators on a consistent basis, especially TV shows. If you look at the how many original TV shows, like, I mean, The Bear obviously is a huge one. The Studio is incredible. Like,
01:30:08
Speaker
Again, Severance. like we this These are all shows that are nominated this year. and There's some crazy TV shows out there um but as well as movies, but people don't go watch them.
01:30:19
Speaker
and That's kind of the one of the issues. and Then they complain that there's nothing original, which I think is hilarious. yeah I'm like i'm looking pulling up like the movies that I watched this year. and Honestly, i mean most of what I watched are not franchises. I mean i guess a few are.
01:30:35
Speaker
Yeah, few are. Sure. But but yeah. watched a few Marvel things this year. Yeah. Marvel things, I guess the DC stuff. Yeah. Paddington, I guess I watched. That's a franchise. Yeah. But it just doesn't matter. This why I'm saying this is the same thing as saying that Disney
Audience Criticism: Originality Complaints
01:30:50
Speaker
is lame. It's the same idea. It's like people like to complain. It's like, but you just need to go and open your ver horizons, you know?
01:30:56
Speaker
Go watch it. Have an open ah an open mind. It's useful instead of just complaining about everything. It's just kind of it's it's very tedious. But yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah. Wolfman was one of the original things.
01:31:10
Speaker
Companion. That was okay. That was okay. 28 years later, I guess, is a franchise. Theoretically, but I mean, it's like came back 20 years later. so I feel like, I don't know if we can give that some grace and thinking how, especially how original that's that story is. It's crazy. Good.
01:31:26
Speaker
Anyway. So yeah. Do you think the fatigue will get set in? James Gunn's going to go hard. I mean, as long as the, as again, if the content's good, I don't think there's going to be fatigue.
01:31:38
Speaker
That's the key. Yeah, okay. So we agree on that. All right. Cool. um All right. Let's move on to what we've been watching this week. I'll throw it to you. I don't have much to say. So I'll just like, oh, what's up? I'll be right back.
01:31:50
Speaker
pee? No, no, no, no. No pee pee time. Okay. I need a... Poo poo time. No. No bathroom involved this time. Okay. Well, don't, Adrian, don't make shit unless it's into toilet. Okay.
01:32:05
Speaker
Don't make shit unless it's into toilet. Yeah. Unless it's into toilet. Sorry. I said is. I'll be quick. Damn it. That's not the quote for the shirt. Bye.
01:32:21
Speaker
All right. I'm back, Simon. Plot twist. I actually did go pee. I decided to go pee. I was like, I'm already out. I may as well just piss now. But you to know the real reason I left, Simon?
01:32:31
Speaker
Sure. What's up? I was just getting a little sleepy, so I had a little power coffee. Oh, sleepy. Sleepy boy. Yeah, I feel like i'm I'm not bringing in the energy today feel I'm feeling maybe a little lethargic today. So I was like, maybe a little bit of caffeine will get me back into the action.
01:32:51
Speaker
That's fair. That's fair. Thank you. I'm doing it for you, man. I'm doing it for you. Thanks. I was worried that you were a bit distracted. i don't know. I wasn't sure if you were falling asleep. Well, but and i like I wasn't thinking that. I thought maybe you were dealing with some personal things.
01:33:02
Speaker
That's what thought was happening. So kind of. I'm in between jobs right now because I'm switching to a new company in like ah week and a half. Yeah. So I left my previous company and gave me my two weeks and then they essentially pushed me out after a week. They were trying to push me out immediately because like, you're in sales, you're not going to make any sales. i'm like, no.
01:33:23
Speaker
I am in two weeks. And then I was like, I'll, I'll stay for a week and then sure. I'll, I'll take two weeks off. And so are they even allowed to kick you out? I think they're not allowed to, it they were really pushing for it. So, and honestly, kind of left a bad taste in my mouth with the one person there, like the vice, the vice president of sales.
01:33:39
Speaker
I was like, it's kind of lame. I was like, I wanted to leave on a very positive note and my entire team, they're amazing. Like fantastic people. Right. But left a little bit of a sour taste. So it kind of pissed me off a little bit.
01:33:50
Speaker
um But whatever, it doesn't matter. I'm not there anymore and I've been enjoying my week off. going to next week off. That's actually why I'm visiting my my good pal Peter this weekend, Simon. Why I have to make some things around. um But i have a work laptop that I have to send back.
01:34:04
Speaker
And so they've been emailing me trying to set up like the time to pick it up tomorrow. And they finally just set up the time between 12 to 7. So long like, okay, cool. That's a window.
01:34:16
Speaker
window in quotations. but that's a That's essentially a shift that I would have worked. But okay, sure. I guess I'll be home at that time, even though I wasn't planning on going anywhere anyways. But I'm like a little annoyed about it regardless, because now I can't go anywhere from that time.
01:34:30
Speaker
And like, wonderful, they'll be there to pick it up between 12 to 7. um Print this off to give to the delivery person when they come like come by. im like I don't have a fucking printer here. I'm not going to go to the library like some person that goes to the library, like some person that reads books and print off a piece of paper at the library.
01:34:48
Speaker
So i I emailed back and like, I do not have a printer, so I can't print that off. Sorry. Oh, wow. um Oh, is that where you went? so You went to go email them? Oh, no, yeah you did do the caffeine.
01:35:00
Speaker
I did the caffeine and I wrote that message while I was drinking coffee. Oh, no way. That's crazy. we don't You don't have a printer, eh? No. Interesting. What did I need a printer for? I don't know. I guess printing off the odd thing here.
01:35:12
Speaker
ah My parents have a printer, but they they live like a 25 minute drive away. I'm not going to drive 50 minutes to and fro to print off a fucking piece of paper. Email it to the courier. Yeah, they shuffled you out.
01:35:23
Speaker
They shuffled you out early. So I was like, i can't I'm not doing that. I was hoping that they would just forget about the laptop and leave me with this MacBook. But they they ah they obviously no weren't going to do that.
01:35:34
Speaker
It's fucking hell, yeah. But anyways, so I just, I emailed that back. So that was also, i was I was getting like a little annoyed because i kept on like email and they were calling me a bunch too.
01:35:45
Speaker
So that's why I kept on looking down at my phone cause my phone kept a ringing. Oh, okay. And I was wondering what was happening. I was worried about you. Oh no, it's all good. Do we need to stop? But you don't want to say it because you're trying to be polite.
01:35:56
Speaker
Yeah, no, they just kept on calling me and emailing me. Like, motherfucker, i but like maybe you should have dealt with this the week that I was still at the company. You guys are the ones that didn't make me work this week and aren't paying me, and you're just dialing me like crazy? Get fucked.
01:36:10
Speaker
And then that that's why I was like, i was just getting annoyed. And I'm like also tired. And I was just like, I'm not bringing in the energy to the show. So you know what? This is the second half of the show. You're getting full energy, Adrian, going forward unless they try calling me again.
01:36:24
Speaker
In which case, I'm going to- should answer it on the down the air. Maybe I won't. It would be entertaining. yeah Okay, well- What are we moving on to? Oh, yeah, you we're doing the segment in which we talk about what we watched this week, and I'll give it to you.
01:36:39
Speaker
I'll leave it to you. I'm sure you watched quite a bit because I didn't know you were off. It makes sense. I keep seeing you on Death Stranding. I'm like, is this guy just playing Death Stranding all day during business hours? It's like, yeah, because you weren't working.
01:36:50
Speaker
That makes perfect sense. Yeah, that's that's us so I've been getting a lot of time in. So again, just yeah, that game is awesome, dude. But again, we won't talk about that here. I watched a few things, my friend. Nothing too crazy.
01:37:01
Speaker
Nothing too crazy. However, Simon, I have watched...
01:37:09
Speaker
Yes. It, everything is escaping me. Oh, okay. Sorry. Literally just had like the biggest brain fart. I had like six, there are the three things I've been watching, like all coming at the same time. And I did not say it technically four things at the same time.
01:37:25
Speaker
So what I, what I'm going to say right now is i watched where I'm, can Oh my Jesus, dude. Oh my God, dude. Just do it in chronological order. Okay, so I'm like watching. Is the caffeine hitting you all at once? I guess so.
01:37:39
Speaker
Ah! A little chiral tea. Yeah, chiral tea, dude. Chiral tea. So I'm on season four of You. Me? Yeah, you dude, You. No, the Netflix series You.
01:37:52
Speaker
um Doesn't get old. So we're on season four. Um, this is the last season that I have watched previously. my fiance again, going into this blind, we're on the last episode, I think we're just about to finish episode nine. So really enjoying ourselves. And I'm excited to get into season five because that's all new content for me. And I know it's like the the final season of the show. And it's interesting because like, i remember not loving season four as much as the other seasons.
01:38:20
Speaker
And I still think that's the case. I'm rewatching it, but I have like a new found, um enjoyment out of it just because like it is whodunit and like that's what the season is set up as is like a whodunit which is a fun tonal change and knowing what the answer is it's cool to see all the clues that they put through that entire season leading up to that point yeah so it's been satisfying watching re-watching it from that angle However, I do think season four of you is weaker than the other seasons for one key thing.
01:38:58
Speaker
And again, each season of you has it but has a different tone, a different like sort of story that they set up and and none of it's the same. And i really, really like it because of that. But season four such a dramatic change, like twist from that.
01:39:15
Speaker
not only from the, again, the tone and the setting, but also there's significantly less comedy in season four. Like the first three seasons of you, i would argue are are kind of comedies like that there's like ah you know, it's a drama, but there is a lot of jokes sprinkled throughout. It's really, really funny.
01:39:36
Speaker
And season four is not that actually. It's actually quite grim and dire, um which is interesting because I think like some of the funnest Horror movies that are also like kind of comedies are whodunit movies like Scream um as an example.
01:39:53
Speaker
So um I think that's one of the main reasons why I think of season four falls a little bit flat in comparison to the previous three seasons. And one key thing to note is like, I feel like in at each of the other seasons, the tertiary characters are fun to watch and follow and they add a lot to the show itself and you like them kind of even the shitty ones like they have like more redeeming qualities and I think this season is the first season apart from maybe like one character where all the side characters kind of like aren't aren't
01:40:29
Speaker
enjoyable to watch. Like I'm not rooting for any of them. Like I don't really wish any of them well in a weird way, even the ones that like seem a little bit more innocent, you know, like I don't necessarily think like that, that are like, you know, objectively good people.
01:40:45
Speaker
Um, yeah they're they're just not as fun to watch as the as the previous season's cast where like every character, like additional side character, even ones that get significantly less screen time, have like fun personalities and bring a lot to the show. And I just think like this season, and it loses that a little bit.
01:41:03
Speaker
um So I found that a little bit disappointing on this rewatch. But again, I was kind of going into it expecting that I wouldn't like it as much. um I do think I like it a little bit more than I liked it the the first time. I'd have to go back and I don't know if we reviewed it on a previous iteration of our podcast or not.
01:41:21
Speaker
um But ah like I'm curious what my thoughts were back then. um Yeah, and I am very excited to see where season five takes everything. And I hope they kind of go back to that more...
01:41:32
Speaker
you know first three seasons, like a little bit more lighthearted and funny, like a lot of the comedic elements being brought back. Cause even Joe as a character, he's kind of like depressed in a lot of season four.
01:41:46
Speaker
Um, and so even his inner monologue isn't as funny, like, you know, like there is the occasional where he's like a fuck, um, where like you'll get like a laugh out of it. But I think consistently in the first three seasons, there's always like he'll be saying something and trying to rationalize a situation and it's genuinely funny. Whereas in this season, there isn't much of that. So I think that's a little bit of a miss.
01:42:07
Speaker
um But all in all, still really good. I still really like the show. i highly recommend it. Did you finish season five yet? Oh yeah, it's done. Oh yeah. did Did you enjoy it? Did you like the...
01:42:19
Speaker
I didn't talk about it last two weeks ago. You mentioned, I don't think you said that you finished it. It's over. it was good. It was good. It was very, it's very different than the rest of the seasons.
01:42:30
Speaker
And it's, uh, it's quite interesting. It's quite interesting. I, uh, I feel like it's, uh, yeah, it's first fairly satisfying. i thought it was pretty good. I will say, I said this before the, um, what's her name now?
01:42:42
Speaker
Oh my God. Uh, yeah. I can't remember her name. um Whatever. Anyway, she the like the one of the main characters that was introduced in this particular season, I don't think she's a great character.
01:42:57
Speaker
I think she's not an unrealistic person, but she's kind of annoying. I will say that. I mentioned her a couple weeks ago when we talked about it before. And so when you when you get there, I think you'll know what I'm talking about. I think you'll probably agree, but we both my fiance and I did not appreciate this character very much.
01:43:13
Speaker
Fair enough. She's annoying. I don't know. I also describe it. It's just like, ah, there's like, there's problems because it's just, it just feels like, it's funny because then there's like, there's a moment where you're like, oh, she's actually better than you think. And then then you're like, no, it's just just not that good. I don't know.
01:43:33
Speaker
But it's like a non-realistic character necessarily. It's not necessarily badly written. It's just like maybe they could have like not forced the annoyance as much. i don't know if they're trying to make her annoying or not. I have no idea. But anyway, it's a pretty good season though.
01:43:48
Speaker
I enjoyed it. I think it ended pretty well um as ah as a whole. So I liked you. It was good. Me? Sure. You too. Yeah. Past tense. But this but the series on Netflix. Yeah, fair enough. um Cool, man. Cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Another thing that I ah have watched, we briefly talked about it. I am on the last episode now of Andor season two.
01:44:11
Speaker
Oh, wow. I am very sad that I'm ah about to finish the show. I'm going to finish it tomorrow. But by golly gee, dude. Oh my God. Oh my God. Some of these episodes. So i talked because i I ended off on episode eight, which I think is like yeah one of the great episodes of television.
01:44:28
Speaker
But the next like two episodes, dude. Are really good. Unbelievable. Unbelievable, man. Unbelievable. You talked about 8 very fondly, but because I watched episode 9 and 10 right after, I was like, yeah, episode 8 good. yes really good yeah It's didn't pale in comparison and but it just it just felt like i was like i'm just watching like a straight Like bang rapper banger. Yeah. It's just great. It's just designed really well. It's beautiful. It's again, it's just so good.
01:44:57
Speaker
So good. It's not lame at all. No, dude. No, dude. Yeah. Episode nine is... Wow. Like that it's that's the Senate episode, I believe.
01:45:08
Speaker
Yeah. And like, hold my, hold my Lord, dude, there's so much going on. God, this is like the peak. like ah ever Like when I think about Star Wars, I want to think about Andor. But again, I was like, was talking to my fiance today as I was washing dishes after making dinner.
01:45:24
Speaker
And I was like, yeah, I got one more episode in Andor life. I'm like, kind of sad about it. It's like, yeah. Chances are we're never going to get Star Wars this good ever again. like chance that you know like Maybe we will. Maybe someone will come around and create something this good.
01:45:37
Speaker
But it's just like, i don't this isn't just good Star Wars, man. This is just good, amazing TV, dude. and It's like crazy to think that Mandalorian got more... Mandalorian Season 1 got more Emmy nominations than Andor.
01:45:50
Speaker
it's like It's not even close, dude. I like Mandalorian Season 1 and Mandalorian Season 2. good But like... there's nothing There's nothing, nothing as good as Andor in any anything Star Wars, period, full stop. I'm going to go i'm gonna go that far. Like Andor is the best piece of Star Wars content out there.
01:46:10
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It's some of the best content out there, period. Not Star Wars, just content. It's a little tricky to say that only because like it's obviously rooted in Star Wars and everything that came before it and they make referential... like they They're so deep on the lore of Star Wars in that they throw you into it like 1977 Star Wars. I was just going to say though, right? The creatures and the droids and all of the different elements, they bring it all together.
01:46:35
Speaker
and then they bring in some original things that we've never seen before in Star Wars at the same time as paying respect and homage to all the Star Wars that came before. It's really... Like Coruscant as a great example. The Senate is like, we really only saw that in the prequels, the movies that people don't really love as an example. I don't know if there's anything from, there's not too much from the sequels to be fair.
01:46:56
Speaker
I can't think of too much, but I'm on Mothma.
01:47:01
Speaker
What? Oh, wait. Oh, sorry. The sequel. The sequel, not the original trilogy. Yeah. I was worried for a second. I'm like, wait. No, she wasn't. in yeah she wasn't. Sorry, i misunderstood you. I was thinking the sequel to the prequel. The most was the original trilogy in terms of referential moments, but...
01:47:18
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it's a Yeah, it's really, really cool. And then they create like creatures that we've never seen before and they do practical effects and like all of that part of Star Wars is there intact as well as it telling this incredibly deep political story that's somehow incredibly relevant to our time. yeah And again, it's really, really cool. It's it's amazing.
Andor: Celebrated Star Wars Content
01:47:39
Speaker
It's truly amazing. The acting is incredible. The writing is incredible. The character study is incredible in terms of like what the actors have done with these characters over 24 episodes. The music is incredible. Like it's not just Nicholas Patel. I realized I didn't give – I think it's Brandon Roberts is his name, the composer.
01:47:54
Speaker
And even like episode eight, some of the music in that is crazy. We Are the Gore. Oh my god. What a what a freaking chilling episode that is. It's it's so good. I'm on – Um, I'll let you go. Actually. do you want to say more? I was just going to say, I'm on episode. I haven't gotten past episode 10.
01:48:12
Speaker
So I'm i'm okay about to do 11 and 12 and then do rogue one all at once. But I didn't want to do, i was going on a small vacation, so I didn't want to do 11 and 12 and then wait for rogue one. I wanted to be able to jump right in once. And so i I held off. That's why I've taken so long. I would have been done by this episode, but I, got stuck. It was at a funeral and stuff, but so yeah my condolences, dude, I'm sorry.
01:48:34
Speaker
what ah What else did you want to say about it or anything else that stick out to you? or um No, I mean, like I think you touched on all the points. like it's It's so incredibly well acted. like The writing is impeccable. There's never a dull moment. um I mean, technically, there are like dull moments, quote unquote, where it's just people talking, but it's still It's not dull. Yeah, it's not. Like, it's intriguing. It's as dull as Black Bag, I guess, could be.
01:49:00
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Yeah, exactly. Which is like still just so... Ah, man. And yeah, the these characters are so... well-defined and so intriguing and just like the the level of grayness. Like no one is is purely good. No one is purely evil. there yeah There's these rationalizations for the actions of what some people are doing.
01:49:21
Speaker
And it's just, again, like, oh my God, dude. i Yeah, I love this. I love this. I love it. I love it. Yeah. I love it. It's so good. I don't know.
01:49:32
Speaker
It's just crazy, though. It's crazy. i go We live in a crazy time. like Yeah. I think there's no chance it wins Emmys because it's like, unfortunately, like, oh, it's Star Wars. It's like, did you watch it? i could do Like, it's really, don't know.
01:49:46
Speaker
It just annoys People annoy me out there, you know? Yeah. um But yeah, it's very good. Very good. Cool. Anything else you watched? Yes. Yes. The final thing that I've watched is the final season of Squid Game,
Squid Game Finale: Bleak Yet Engaging
01:50:01
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Simon.
01:50:01
Speaker
Squid season three. Oh, you finished the whole thing. finished the whole thing. Seven episodes. Seven, right? Six. Six. Six episodes. Right. um And, man, so Squid Game is interesting, right? So the the premise is like, you know, it takes place in Korea and it's essentially this like, this- is Yeah, fair enough.
01:50:23
Speaker
But there are North Korean characters in the show. Key point. And that's actually ah one of the cool elements that they bring in is that like they're like defectors um from North Korea. um And what's really cool about it is, you know, it's a bunch of these like poor people that get taken advantage of and and they sign up for this game called so Squid Game, quote unquote, um and like brought to an island. and They have to it's like games of death.
01:50:49
Speaker
And That's really the setup of ah all of the seasons. But season three is like a direct continuation of season two. Like it it honestly feels like season two and three are just one longer season as opposed to. That's enough to do, isn't it?
01:51:04
Speaker
Yeah. Like, so i think if I'm looking at it from a season by season sort of perspective, i think season three is unfortunately the weakest. Yeah.
01:51:16
Speaker
But that doesn't mean that it's bad. It's honestly really fantastic. And I think all three seasons of the show are fantastic. My gripe, I guess, with this season, not really, it's not really a gripe, but like, I think one of the main reasons why this isn't as good as the other two is since it's a direct continuation of season two, a lot of characters are already dead.
01:51:39
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Um, so all the characters that kind of bring levity, um There's less of them, right? So it makes for an incredibly bleak six episodes, man.
01:51:53
Speaker
it's It's a tough watch. I'll be honest with you. Like I was sitting there and after every episode, like, man, this is sad. and Like, this is very sad, but the writing is so good.
01:52:05
Speaker
The acting, um i mean, like from what I can see, is is um stellar. You know, I don't speak Korean. I'm reading subtitles while watching this. Right. That's good to go point out. Let's point that out.
01:52:16
Speaker
Yeah, watching in Korean. watching it subbed. Yeah, subbed. Subs is better. Do not watch this show dubbed. I cannot stress that enough. i will I will say that until the cameras come home. played this game before!
01:52:27
Speaker
what it sounds like it's terrible like imagine the experience of the people watching it like that though it's it's default yeah jesus christ there was a thing about did you see this thing about the fact that when you watch it dubbed the the there's like there's an english speaking people in the show like there was in the first season yes and then they they they for some reason dubbed over the english speaking people so So if you watch it in dubbed, you have a different person speaking over the English actor already saying the words. Like, how does that work?
01:53:01
Speaker
Like, come on. And apparently it's much worse. and Like, their performance is much worse than the people who initially performed it. Interesting. I'll let you decide, but... Well, I didn't watch it in dubbed, but I was going to say that they have English speaking characters in in season three that'll show up.
01:53:19
Speaker
Right. um That's what referring to. called like the VIPs. Yeah. And I swear to God, it's dubbed. so maybe it did Oh, my God, really. Yeah, in the Korean. Because there's like, i don't know four four or five VIPs that kind of show up. And and so, again, the premise They're speaking in English, though.
01:53:38
Speaker
They are, yeah. Oh, you said it's dubbed in the Korean. I was like, what does that mean? No, no, sorry. Like, in the Korean version, it still is dubbed in English. in the Korean. Yeah, right. And they're speaking Korean. So there's like...
01:53:49
Speaker
And these VIPs, they're essentially just rich people from around the world that show up into South Korea that will watch like the final few games just because they they're getting a yeah kick out of it and they're super rich and they'll be putting putting bets on each other.
01:54:02
Speaker
By far the worst characters in the show because they just they're standing around and stating like if that part of the show honestly feels so anime in like a way of like characters over explaining what is happening, they'll be like,
01:54:16
Speaker
oh my God, 456 just jumped over 222 and helped them do this or whatever. And like it's like, yeah, i know. I just watched it. like why are we why Why are we moving the camera back to them? um So it's a little bit odd that they chose to do that. And again, the performances by them, it's weird because, again, there's four or five of them.
01:54:39
Speaker
And it seems... like not all of them are dubbed weirdly enough. Like one of them, it honestly seems like a relatively good performance. And the other ones, it seems like it's just 80 yard over these people's lips. And it's like, wow, it's kind of, it's kind of, it's shocking. Honestly, it takes you out of it.
01:54:57
Speaker
Um, which is a little bit interesting, like disappointing considering how good the rest of the show is. And it seems very out of place. Um, I've heard that there might be in the subversion that there might might have been dubbed in so certain markets, but in like in the Canadian market? like why yeah Why?
01:55:20
Speaker
I don't understand. have no idea. okay Okay. It's not good, unfortunately. Right. The other thing that I think is like genuinely bad about ah this season, and maybe this was common in the other two seasons. I just don't remember the CGI atrocious.
01:55:41
Speaker
It's honestly like really, really bad. I don't even remember CGI in the other seasons. Yeah, there's there's a CGI dog at one point, and it looks like it's from a PS2 game. Like, I'm not joking. I was like, Jesus, dude.
01:55:54
Speaker
was like, Death Stranding like looks like immaculate. like there And there's like certain games where it's like, okay, they film this on a green screen, and they're like... Hop in over like this, this thing and it just it does not look good.
01:56:08
Speaker
So there's a few moments like that that kind of take you out of it briefly. But I think just the writing and the interactions between the main cast of characters is just so good that it just kind of brings you right back.
01:56:19
Speaker
And that's really what the show is about is the characters and how they're interacting. How they have the It's Netflix. I don't know, dude. Yeah, I don't know. And they knew it was popular. It's not like the first season, which makes sense. It's like Game of Thrones season one. There's no battle, mass battles, because they had no budget.
01:56:33
Speaker
So that they would have people like, like oh, I just bought a battle. They just come back on a horse. It's like, yeah, good for you. That was that was Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones season one was amazing, amazing but they they knew where their budgetary like constraints were.
01:56:47
Speaker
And this is the third season of this incredibly popular TV show on Netflix, which is one of the biggest... the Actually, not one of, the biggest streamer. yeah Shocking.
01:56:59
Speaker
But okay. Yeah. um So, yeah, like I think apart from those two gripes, I think where it ends is satisfying. Like I wasn't unsatisfied or dissatisfied by the route that the story went.
01:57:14
Speaker
um And again, it's like really it's just it's incredibly bleak. Like it is sad, dude. Like it's a very sad show. And I feel like season three, i funnily enough, i kind of made the same.
01:57:26
Speaker
ah complain about you season four is like the comedy's gone there's there's not much to laugh about anymore you know in in this in this uh season three portion um but i did really love it and i am honestly very excited to see what they do with the american version of squid game because that's david fincher isn't it am i crazy Is it David Fincher like showrunning it completely, though? Or is he just... Yeah, right. We talked about this. um I just can't remember what exactly he was his role is. Is he just a producer? Set to direct and an English language spinoff of the popular series. Oh, so he's going to set the tone like he did with Mindhunter.
01:58:10
Speaker
Maybe. I guess. interest Interesting. yeah It is also... i Don't look into any of this. time just I don't want it to spoil any of... um It's October 28, 2024, though, this article I'm reading.
01:58:25
Speaker
Yeah. Shouldn't spoil it. Interesting. Okay. yeah Yeah, it is interesting. He's doing the Once Upon a Time in Hollywood prequel now, I imagine, too.
01:58:37
Speaker
Yeah. um And it is cool because I think originally when this was reported on, like the Squid Game American, it was reported on as a remake. It's not. it's ah like ah It is like a straight up spinoff.
01:58:49
Speaker
Yeah. So like, I think it's kind of hinted at in the show that like these games aren't only taking place in Korea and like, why are the VIPs just coming to, um you know, Korea? So like, I mean, in theory, you could make a bunch of these spinoffs in a bunch of different countries and a bunch of different languages and just like yeah milk the shit out of it.
01:59:10
Speaker
That's milking it too much. Yeah. That's, that's where I'll dry the draw draw the line, you know? Yeah. I'll take 20 Marvel movies in the next 10 years, but I feel like.
01:59:21
Speaker
We're getting like Squid Game and yeah Brazil. india India. Squid Game China. Squid Game United States. Like i don't know if we need that. Dude, I would watch the shit. Like I would I would watch the shit out of like these like random spinoffs. If they're good quality.
01:59:38
Speaker
Again, I guess it doesn't matter as long as it's good quality. I guess that's really the moral of the story for the for the entire thing. I guess that's the moral the story of this episode, really, is where we're kind of knelt down, is that like everything varies in quality.
High-Quality Content: Avoiding Blanket Criticism
01:59:50
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It depends on the people making it, the creatives, the collaborators is making it. and like Some of them are bad.
01:59:55
Speaker
And so sorry, but that's just the nature of it. And then some of them are meddled with by executives who don't really care anything but about anything but money. And then some of them are good. Watch the good ones, I guess. That's really the thing. And don't don't chalk up an entire studio if you can avoid it.
02:00:10
Speaker
Yeah, honestly. bad or I mean, to go back to your your point, don't make shit unless into toilet. and Yes, exactly. man that's the that's That's really the moral of the story. Netflix, I hope you're listening.
02:00:21
Speaker
Kevin Feige, James Gunn. James Gunn's on a roll so far because he's got one for one. three Actually, three for three. Three for three. Peacemaker, Creature Commandos, you know, and...
02:00:33
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And um Superman are all in the James, James gu universe. Okay. Are we ready to move on? Or you have more that you've watched?
02:00:46
Speaker
No. Did somebody email you back again? are they calling on the phone? Yeah, sorry. They just emailed me back. They're like, is it possible for you to drop it off so that they can provide the printout to the way bill?
02:00:57
Speaker
Okay. Sure. I'm just going write. Sure. mean, I can print it for you if you want. The UPS is arguably closer than you are. I'm just saying.
02:01:10
Speaker
I don't mind helping you out. You've got a lot of work to do tomorrow, Simon. you I do, but it it will take me five seconds after we're done recording this to print it out. In fact, I can print it off right on the air here. But you do have you're not that close to me in terms of a drive. I'm actually relatively close to you, honestly. I just got to pop on the handling, dude. I'm at your place in seven minutes.
02:01:28
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Eight minutes, maybe. They don't dox. Possibly. right Possibly 20 minutes because the handling. Handling a mystery. Too many If hit red light, you're going to hit every single red light.
02:01:39
Speaker
That's crazy. Because that's how highways work, man. That's how it makes sense. Highways don't usually have that many lights. That's the problem with the handling. it's a It's a mess.
02:01:50
Speaker
That's why when they remove that one light near the 401, I was like, wow, they just created an overpass. That must be very costly, but very great. Like that's the best thing that they've done in a while. in terms of construction in this neighborhood.
02:02:01
Speaker
you know Great stuff. if you remove one That one light was horrible. That was the worst light. They removed it. Maybe they're going to put overpasses into multiple spots on that road because there's a lot of lights. It's ridiculous. anyway du it's It's relentless.
02:02:15
Speaker
All right. Well, what what else did you watch? so that Is that it? Yeah. Okay. What did you watch? ah Nothing of note. I'll bring it up later on.
02:02:27
Speaker
I've watched more of the studio. ah watched the show at for the first a pilot episode for a show because I've got, because I watched Creature Commandos last two weeks ago. I told you about that on the last, on 1.14.
02:02:38
Speaker
And so um i I still have Stack TV in Canada, like the Amazon add-on to get like some of the linear streaming. TV like shows that for some reason we don't get on other streaming services. I have the other streaming services, but I can't get it.
02:02:51
Speaker
So like I got some Peacock shows that I've been checking out, but it's like one pilot here or there. So I'm just going to hold off until I start to... I watched the pilot for specifically um ah based on a true story.
02:03:05
Speaker
I haven't even heard of it. Let's go. Kelly. Cool. Yeah. The thing is that we don't get Peacock here in Canada. We don't really get any. It feels like they don't even like allow us to get Peacock content here. Like that's NBC streaming service.
02:03:16
Speaker
NBC Universal. Yeah. so There's the odd show like um Twisted Metal. Right. Like you the Twisted Metal is a Peacock original. What is it on? Yeah. we Right, Paramount Plus. Right. That's another one i don't really get.
02:03:32
Speaker
That's true, though. i didn't Which is, yeah, random. CBS. And, um I mean, Poker Face, ah you mentioned that earlier. That's a Peacock show. We get it on City TV Plus. Yeah, I guess the Canadian – Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. A lot of the – Yeah, that's true. They they just took – Just like Sony, I guess. The Sony stuff ends up on various streaming services. Mm-hmm.
02:03:52
Speaker
I guess the Peacock stuff for us because we don't have Peacock is ending up on everything. But Sony's different. Sony doesn't have a streaming service in the United States either. So they're just like, it's on HBO Max. It's on Netflix. It's on...
02:04:04
Speaker
They do. It's on Max. It's on HBO. No. No. It's called HBO Max. what wait Sorry, what are you stopping me for? Sony. Sony has their streaming service, dude. They don't have a streaming service. Yeah, they do. It's called Sony Pictures Core. You get it with your PlayStation Plus Premium subscription.
02:04:18
Speaker
no. you get a collection of of some of their titles to stream included in that cost. Streaming service is like a, it's like Cineplex. That's like the Cineplex app. But that's why they're looking to you guys was looking to buy Paramount Plus.
02:04:32
Speaker
That's why they were looking to buy CBS. Yeah. I mean, I'm obviously doing a bit here, Simon. Oh, okay. Obviously. Self-advertising. Well, I don't know. Maybe you think that that's a streaming service. I don't know how much you've used. mean, it technically is because you get. Sort of. You get an you do get a library.
02:04:48
Speaker
I know, I know. It's good. It's just not quite like that. It's different. and It's also a small part. You're getting credits and you're buying things separately. It's like iTunes. And they do – they own Crunchyroll to be fair, but that's not like – That is streaming service. Yes. For anime. Yeah, 100%. Which is for animation now at this point. So they have almost all – they have monopolized the entire anime scene except for Netflix's fair, I guess.
02:05:13
Speaker
Yeah, it is interesting as well because it's like they have like they have all anime on like Crunchyroll and stuff like that. But so many anime are on multiple streaming services like um Spy Family as an example. Like I watched the first season of that really good on Netflix.
02:05:30
Speaker
But it is also on Crunchyroll. It is also on, I think, Funimation if that still exists. so um But it's also on –
02:05:39
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ah Amazon Prime, like video. So like, I feel like a lot of these larger streaming services are kind of pushing into that anime market because there is a lot of money to be made yeah
Netflix and Anime: Surprising Viewership Stats
02:05:49
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there. And like, i think, didn't Netflix say something crazy? Didn't we talk about this?
02:05:54
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Something like,
02:05:57
Speaker
I don't know. I feel like maybe I'm speaking out of my ass. Maybe I dreamt this, but it's something crazy like one-fifth one-tenth of their viewership is ah ah spent on anime. Did we talk about this? No.
02:06:07
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No, we didn't talk about it. I don't know i don't disagree that with that existing. I don't know if that's true. and i Definitely, we didn't talk about it, though. and Unless we talked about it on like the first 100 and you mentioned it in a passing, but I didn't put it in a write-up, not from what I remember.
02:06:22
Speaker
Okay. One fifth. That's a lot. I know. i Dude, I swear I read this somewhere or maybe I dreamt it. i mean, i haven't really, i' been having these weird thoughts lately.
02:06:33
Speaker
Okay. I'm going to do it at Kingdom Hearts reference there. um ah But no, I've been having weird dreams lately. Apparently I was talking in my sleep last night. Not sure what's going on.
02:06:45
Speaker
I don't know. Stress maybe. Maybe, dude. Technically, I should be the least stressed in the next couple weeks because I'm not working. I'm just doing fuck all. You're not working next week either.
02:06:57
Speaker
no, no. no I'm off. wow. I gave in two weeks so I would have a week off. And they're like, no, we're you can you're off after one week. now I got two weeks off. Gotcha.
02:07:07
Speaker
It's fine. It's fine. Whatever. Who cares? I'm not salty about it.
02:07:15
Speaker
No, yeah, not at all. It doesn't seem like it. All right. Are you looking this up? The one fifth stat? Yeah. Okay. Interesting.
02:07:26
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I can't see anything. Oh, okay. Okay. a fan I fan. So I was wrong about what I said. um The Hollywood Reporter um had an article that came out July six That says Netflix says 50% of global users now watch anime.
02:07:43
Speaker
So 50% of all their users are watching anime. Okay. Right. That's a lot. That's crazy on a different – like unrelated statistic because it's obviously not related to what you're saying. But that's a crazy statistic anyway. 50% of all users watch – they must – what does that mean though? Like they watched it once? Yeah.
02:08:01
Speaker
they watched it every year. That's the question. Like I wouldn't be in the statistic if it's every year because I don definitely did not. Because I watched Ed Renner's and that's the only one I've watched on it on Netflix in the last like three years.
02:08:12
Speaker
So was every year. Yeah. So this is from Hollywood Reporter again. um So according to Netflix, more than 50% of its members amounting to over 150 million households or an estimated 300 million viewers now watch anime.
02:08:25
Speaker
The company says anime viewership on the platform has tripled Over the past five years, with 2024 marking a record-breaking year, 33 anime titles appeared in Netflix's global top 10 non-English rankings, more than double the number in 2021. Wow. for them.
02:08:45
Speaker
all right. so It's important, I guess. All right, cool. Adrian, I think it's now time to move on to the montage. what do you say? Sure thing, man. All right.
02:08:56
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The montage. A sequence of our show in which I briefly present seven of the bi-weeks smaller news stories as Adrian delivers a brisk verdict. Number one. As announced by Warner Brothers Discovery, the Harry Potter HBO TV series has begun production and will air in 2027.
Assassin's Creed TV Adaptation: Showrunner Choices
02:09:12
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That's exciting, dude.
02:09:13
Speaker
I feel bad. These kids are already getting bullied online, so... That's good. Didn't see that. That's unfortunate. Number two, as announced by Netflix, Halo writer David Weiner and Westworld producer Roberto Pitino have been hired on as showrunners for Netflix's recently greenlit Assassin's Creed TV series adaptation. Dude, this is fantastic. Bring on the guy that everyone, you know, ah that wrote the show that every Halo fan hates to write another video game adaptation.
02:09:43
Speaker
Brilliant choice. Ten out of ten. I know you're being sarcastic, but I will say that Assassin's Creed as a concept is a lot looser than what Halo could be. And I feel like this is as more...
02:09:55
Speaker
position to succeed, especially because Halo reviewed pretty well, my critics, shockingly. Anyway, i kind of
The Late Show Cancellation: Colbert's Comments
02:10:03
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want to watch it. Number three, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, the highest rated late night show on television, hot on the heels of their most recent Emmy nomination, has been canceled by network CBS just days after Colbert jokingly called the recently settled CBS lawsuit with President Donald Trump a bribe.
02:10:21
Speaker
The show will close its final curtain in May of 2025. 2026. Excuse me, i wrote that wrong. 2026. Yeah, that's crazy, man. What a coincidence, eh? I feel like it's definitely a financial choice, though.
02:10:36
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but Jesus Christ. Number four. A Captain Planet and the Planeteers live action TV series is being developed streamer Netflix with Mrs. Davis writer-producer Tara Hernandez set as the showrunner. Oh, interesting. I have no attachment to...
02:10:52
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ah Any of these properties, although I wanted to watch Mrs. Davis because that was show run by um Damon Lindelof. Yes. As well as Tara Hernandez. Correct.
02:11:02
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Number five, as announced by Nintendo game director Shigeru Miyamoto on social media, this Haunting of Bly Manor actor Benjamin Evan Ainsworth has been cast as Link, and renegade Nell actor Bo Brageson has been cast as Zelda in the upcoming Sony-produced Legend of Zelda film adaptation for Nintendo. Wonderful.
02:11:24
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I don't know either of these actors. I don't think I've seen anything that they've been in, but this this this is cool. This is going to be big for for these two people, presumably. They look the part, certainly.
02:11:37
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know if you saw the photos. but Yeah. Number six.
Captain Planet Series: Mixed Reactions
02:11:40
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As HBO executive Casey Bloys has stated to Variety, The Last of Us Season 3 is planned for a 2027 premiere date.
02:11:48
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Okay, cool. I hope so. It's been two years. There's two years between the first two seasons. So... Number 7. According to publication The Hollywood Reporter, Thor Ragnarok director Taika Waititi is directing a Judge Dredd film adaptation with Mission Impossible Rogue Nation writer Drew Pierce set to write the script. Interesting.
02:12:09
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I liked the dread movie that came out like, I don't know, 15 years ago. I thought that was really good. I don't think it did well. And let's go back to this point because I i want to talk about Taika Waititi specifically. And a bonus, number eight.
02:12:21
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As publication deadline reports, the DC Universe's Booster Gold TV series will be showrun by our Flag Means Death showrunner, David Jenkins, and has been greenlit to move forward with an HBO pilot.
02:12:35
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Awesome. Is this animated? That's what I'm looking into right now. No, shouldn't be. Should be live action. Okay. Because they're doing the animated Blue Beetle series. that's my it And I know they, Booster Gold and Blue Beetle have a lot of crossover. And that concludes the montage.
Taika Waititi's Projects: Backlash and Success
02:12:52
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brown but Interesting. So. I wanted to jump back there um to to points number seven with Taika Waititi specifically.
02:13:04
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I feel like the internet has turned on that man. Yeah. So intensely. why The internet has? Yeah. I feel like ah anytime I see anything about Taika Waititi, it's just so much hate.
02:13:17
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Again, maybe I'm just living in some random bubble, but it bums me out because it's like I did not like Thor, the this last Thor, whatever it's called. Thor Love and Thunder.
02:13:27
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Love and Thunder. I did not like it. I think he went a little bit too far. I think it was unfocused. I don't think it was good. um Like personally, but like we're talking about the guy that brought Thor Ragnarok to screen, which is stellar, who did the original What We Do in the Shadows movie, which is amazing. One my favorite comedies.
02:13:46
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He did Jojo a Rabbit, which literally got nominated for Oscars. Like he has skill. Yeah, he made one kind of shitty movie. Um, But like people are so quick to forget all the other amazing things that he has brought to the screen.
02:14:02
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But this is kind of unfortunate. love how this is the theme of this episode. It really is the theme of this episode. It's the same thing as when I started this. When I talked about the Sacred Guys talking about, again, it's lame. It's like, what you're actually going to blanket Taika Waititi as bad because he made Thor Love and Thunder or whatever random thing you particularly watched the screen.
02:14:21
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I even like Glasgow wins. I didn't mind it at all. I think it's incredibly entertaining. literally just pulled that know it's not reviewed well. It's like a 50% of Rotten Tomatoes. But still, I thought Michael Fassbender was pretty good. He was charming in it. I think the overall thing was okay. People are just really down on Again, they see one thing they don't like.
02:14:37
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and it's And it's just the thing that, of course, it's going to be the biggest franchise thing that everyone's seen. And then the guy's shit now. It's like people didn't like The Last of Us Part II. And now Naughty Dog is the worst studio to ever make a video game. Like, get get the shit out of here. That's fucking so stupid, dude.
02:14:51
Speaker
It's dumb. It's just like, again, it's like the same, again, it was, or it's like The Last Jedi. People don't like The Last Jedi. So now Disney's shit. No, it isn't. That's not what it is. It's just not the case. Yeah, Disney is shit because they did Rise of Skywalker, okay?
02:15:05
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That's why Disney is lame. say that or you could say that it's shit because it's woke or whatever the frick everyone's going to make up some reason for for why their reasoning is for why it's bad but in reality it's not bad at all and disney is not doing that actually that badly actually if you would think about it they did quite well this year like lilo and stitch did pretty well thunderbolts didn't lilo and stitch crossed a billion dollars Yeah, they do. They, they, they make it all work.
02:15:29
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I will also say like, speaking of that, like, I feel like there's also some like Hollywood accounting going on with like all these studios always like, they say don't make money. Like Thunderbolts didn't make money. Thunderbolts made money because when Thunderbolts goes to Disney plus people will watch it on Disney plus as well.
02:15:44
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Same thing with like brave new world for captain America. Like they've got two hits now. We talked about this before. Like, Like Black Widow was going to be on – it literally was. It was on Disney Plus at the same time as he was in theaters. Does that mean it didn't make money because it didn't make box office money?
02:15:59
Speaker
No. That's not how it works. Like they make the money in two different ways. They make it based on streaming like subscribers as well. There's a benefit there too. So there again, they're not failing. Taika Waititi is not bad. And the last thing he made was – I think was specifically Last Go Wins.
02:16:15
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Yeah, was. Off-Light Means Death is really quite good from my perspective. I know you didn't love it, but – why and and just watched I just watched the pilot and it didn't hook me. Pun not intended.
02:16:27
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I would say it didn't hook you. Nice. Very good. That was good. If you take a look at the, like if you watch that show all the way through, it's very touching. Like overall, it's it's one of those comedies that like it's almost cringy a little bit, but then it gets you over time.
02:16:41
Speaker
i really appreciate that. was it We were really sad. My fiance and I went out got canceled because it's it's quite, I mean, that's probably, you can consider that to be woke, I guess. everything what our flag means that yeah why you have to watch it to find out but it's really good are they yeah is there a gay in that show oh yeah oh my god dude i can't believe it that's what it's so good though it's really entertaining it's fun is there a person of color in that show simon because if there is oh yeah yeah oh my god dude that's fucked up i know how dare they yeah how dare they is there a woman that speaks
02:17:21
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She's black. Oh my God, dude. I'm going to fucking lose it. And she speaks. Oh, dude. That's really fucked up. Actually. I can't believe that. Welcome the Manosphere. Yeah.
Colbert's YouTube Success: Digital Impact
02:17:33
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Yeah. Anyway. Okay. Well, it's, yeah. No, it's messed up. We live in a bad society of bad people, you know? And there's like no guardrails now. The guardrails are unchecked because they got a crazy guy as a president in a way.
02:17:45
Speaker
No, really good guy. Really good guy. No problem. Yeah, dude, that guy's fucking totally sane and and not stupid. It's like crazy. Like CBS canceled the late show.
02:17:58
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It's nominated for an Emmy. It has the highest ratings. It's the most viewed one. And the thing is, is that it's not just about ratings on TV. Linear networks are not the only thing that they get the money out of. YouTube is huge for these guys. like colbert I don't know if you know this, but Colbert gets like 2.5 million views on every monologue he posts.
02:18:19
Speaker
pretty good i mean you make a pretty good million on every monologue yeah damn so every every every day he does a monologue at every every show and every every one he gets 2.5 million and then don't even just factor in all the guests views youtube is a huge piece of what they do that's like it's like like something like that two between two and 2.5 million at least recently it's also a zeitgeist now because he got fired but he's going ah oh he's going ham i love it he's going so ham on the epstein thing The Avsene Files thing, man.
02:18:49
Speaker
Crazy shit going on. Oh, dude, they don't exist. Except they do exist. That's crazy. But they were also so written by the Democrats. Yeah. it's going But all they only wrote Democrats' names on it because that country is being run by a fucking genius, dude.
02:19:06
Speaker
That's all I'm going to say. He's a genius. That guy's so fucking smart. I feel like he's just he's forty he's playing 4D chess. And we're playing. Right, 5D chess. We're playing tic-tac-toe, actually. yeah but We're that that far behind. This guy's thinking outside of the Epstein list.
02:19:21
Speaker
Yeah, outside of the Epstein list. Yeah, Obama. He's going to arrest Obama now. Obama. That's crazy stuff. love Tesla. Yeah. Anyway.
02:19:33
Speaker
All right. We're not a political podcast, but it's crazy. Some crazy stuff going on. No, dude. I like Superman getting less views overseas because of – I wonder actually you mentioned this point earlier. um we don't know the numbers for this, but I wonder how – I think you were trying allude to this when we were talking about assuming What are the numbers in Canada?
02:19:49
Speaker
Do you think the Superman numbers were far lower in Canada? Yeah. It's interesting because I think what what James Gunn was saying though, it's funny in the in the in the all of the interviews he was saying, he's like, kindness is a part of like the American DNA. like The immigrant story is a part of the the the the DNA of America, but that's obviously not what that side – like the current administration believes, you know, kindness is not like, you know, assholes live forever is is basically their motto. I feel like they don't give a shit about anyone.
02:20:23
Speaker
And so I feel like that as much as James Gunn's messaging is about the origins of America in some capacity, i i don't think that necessarily played overseas, I guess, because he's wearing blue and red and he's a very American figure, Superman.
02:20:38
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And this time, Superman's American. David Cornswit, American dude, which is kind of cool because Henry Cavill wasn't American. it was he's He's obviously English. So there's that.
02:20:50
Speaker
Yeah. I think – no, like I wasn't necessarily alluding to that it wasn't like for us here in Canada specifically. You were saying that – Yeah, yeah. It might have influenced because we obviously have a beef with the American government. Yeah, we we fucking hate the Americans. Specifically, we love the Americans.
02:21:04
Speaker
Well, I love the Americans. i look We hate them all. We're a Hollywood-centric podcast in Canada. So obviously – but But yeah, I think, yeah, there's a lot of issues with the the Trump administration and like a lot of Canadians are are kind of, I mean, arguably our liberal party won this federal election because of how regressive I think Trump is and and how much people hated him. And they're like, oh we don't want to see that. And that's why we're not going to vote in a conservative leadership.
02:21:32
Speaker
I feel like that definitely played a bat factor. Not, again, to get too political, but this particular liberal government is kind of conservative, but yeah. Yeah, no, it is. But it's like, yeah yeah, it's like they were- Also helped, I think. Yeah, I think so as well. And I think, I mean, with Pierre Polyev, he was essentially trying to campaign the same way as Trump
Canadian Perspectives on American Politics
02:21:51
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did. And everyone, I think, saw through it and they're like actually, fuck this guy.
02:21:54
Speaker
And he's still looking for a fucking seat. um Yeah. Our liberal government now is more like- It's traditional. Not- Like it's... Yeah, yeah. right're Very center, which is it is cool.
02:22:07
Speaker
Which I'm fine. I'm honestly fine with the conservative government here in Canada a lot of the time because I feel like there's a lot of just like... not not It's more center. It's not that far right wing, yeah. Yeah, and that's why I was like so anti-Pierre Paulie, because I didn't want...
02:22:23
Speaker
Anyway, yeah we're not why are we diving into politics? Yeah, yeah. But long story short, i think like this, i mean like Canada is a is a country, I think specifically even more so than and the United States that is like built on kindness and and immigration and everything like that. Like, I mean, were our population is growing by like a million people every fucking year because of you know immigrants moving in, right? so Uh, that sounded like I was pissed off about that. wasn't i was I wasn't, I wasn't, um, it sounded aggressive, but I wasn't meeting it that way. So like, I'm not too surprised. It's just a fact. It's yeah it's what's happened. Yeah. We're not necessarily going attribute anything to it. yeah Yeah. So I think, yeah, I think that that's a, that's an important ah thing to note.
02:23:05
Speaker
So. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. so fun All right. What? Okay. So what are we at? We're on the special segment unless you've got anything else to add about. Cause you were getting, you were going to, you talked about, Oh yeah. Taika. Yeah. I didn't know that he was getting hate online.
02:23:18
Speaker
think we're going to say that. Yeah. I don't know. i don't know what you're going to say. I don't remember what I was going to say. If I was going to say anything. Well, you said Taika was getting hate. Yeah, it was more so saying people have such a short memory of all the good stuff he did prior to the one thing that they hate.
02:23:32
Speaker
Jojo Rabbit, as you mentioned, was nominated for an Oscar. Yeah, dude, that movie's phenomenal. don't get it. That movie's impactful. That was on the heels of Thor Ragnarok. like so he was on like He did a huge blockbuster. It's like one for me, one for them type situation. yeah That was the one for them. And then then Jojo Rabbit was the one for me, I guess.
02:23:49
Speaker
Yeah, and again, like I really dislike Thor 11 Thunder. i thought I think that's like a genuinely bad Marvel movie, personally. It's okay. It's not as bad as ever anyone states, but I get it. I did not like it. know, know you didn't. But...
02:24:05
Speaker
That doesn't mean I dislike TechAwayTD. He made, like again, one of my favorite comedies of all time with what we do in the shadows. like hes He's done so many hits. Honestly, I forgot about that Next Goal Wins movie. I wanted to watch it.
02:24:17
Speaker
I think it came out, and then I just never got around to it. But that movie, funnily enough, not not doing well critically, but the audience ah meter is incredibly high on So what the heck then? Yeah.
02:24:28
Speaker
but so What's to do with that? i don't know. It makes even less sense. yeah right Is that on a streaming service? Maybe I'll watch that. It's on Disney Plus, yeah. I watched it on Disney Plus. Oh, it is? Yeah. It is? Yes.
02:24:40
Speaker
Unless it's not there anymore. You're saying it like it's not there. It's on Crave, apparently. Oh, is it? I watched it on Disney Plus at the time. Oh, he also executive produced Time Bandits. I forgot about that.
02:24:53
Speaker
And he had that reservation dog show that he was doing as well on Disney. That was really popular. Which i like I don't know if it's still around. award shows specifically. Like really well well quite well regarded.
02:25:05
Speaker
What am I looking for? Next goal wins Disney. It's still on Disney as well. Okay, good. Yeah. There you go Cool, man. okay Let's now move on to our topic of the show for episode 115, a topic which concerns the 2025 Emmy nominees.
Emmy Nominations: Snubs and Dominance
02:25:25
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On July 15th, the nominees for the 77th Emmy Awards were announced. As is customary, the Creative Arts Emmy Award winners, which include categories like Outstanding Casting, Costumes, Music, and Makeup, will be announced on September 6th and seventh I don't know have any thoughts on this year's broadcasted emmy awards ceremony will be hosted by comedian nate bgatsi and know if you have any thoughts on nate bergatsi
02:25:56
Speaker
I've never seen any of his standup. ah By all counts, he's funny. I've heard that like he does comedy. Yeah, sure does. He's a comedian. Yeah. He's a standup comedian, yeah. so He's pretty cool.
02:26:07
Speaker
Yeah. I've seen him a couple times. Maybe I'll check him too deep. yeah Yeah. Cool. and Well, for this, i feel like it's kind of fun to go back and forth with the snubs and notable mentions ah that we both see in the Emmy Award nominees being announced ah from the 15th.
02:26:25
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Things that we kind of think that stand out to us. We'll go back and forth. we were picked We picked a minimum of three picks each. of of of standout situations about the Emmys.
02:26:36
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So it could be it could be about anything, honestly, but it's probably going to be about the nominations and ah the snubs, the things that – or the people that didn't get nominated this year for the 77th Emmy Awards.
02:26:47
Speaker
little ways ways out, of course, to get announced. I feel like these – I'm always like – like, what the heck? Does he get it get announced so early? The timing is always so confusing because it's like the bear – yes is is nominated for season 3 not season 4 but it's like Severance season 2 is in there, Last of Us is this season 3 of The Bear, are you sure? because I looked this up and 99% this one I looked up because I was wondering about which The Bear season it was and I thought it said season 4
02:27:20
Speaker
I'm confused by that. um If you're 100%, then we'll go with that. But I didn't. I thought I looked that up specifically. and Maybe it was a different show I looked up. Because it, yeah. How do I love you how do i find this?
02:27:32
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but Yeah. Specifically, this this is from a Hollywood Reporter. yeah Specifically, the third season of The Bear was nominated for casting, directing, picture editing, lead actor, lead actress, supporting actor, supporting actress, guest actor, guest actress.
02:27:45
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Sound editing, sound mixing, yada, yada, yada. Okay, so they won't win.
02:27:51
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Yeah. Because I think that's like, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not as big of a fan of the season three, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they're going they're going to, maybe they'll take it all away. Who knows?
02:28:03
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Season three. Yeah, you're right. how did I guess I looked up something different. It must have been a different show. was looking up the season. yeah It is confusing. I completely agree with you. It's proven by our confusion right now. Yeah, like it's strange because they their schedule is weird. It would be nice if they did the January to December type situation and that would just include everything and then it would make it easy.
02:28:21
Speaker
But it's never that, and unfortunately. It doesn't seem like. But yeah, I don't know. Anyway, yeah, so let's go back and forth. I'll let you go first. Anything, what's your first pick for things to stand out to you about the Emmy nominees?
02:28:35
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Do you want me to go with a snub? Do you want me to go with a... Whatever is most, most you know, the thing that you think will... Drum up the audience to click this episode and listen to the podcast.
02:28:48
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So, I mean, i mean we we talked a lot about the the show earlier, and I think one of the shows that got snubbed in a bunch of different places was Andor. But for me, where it got snubbed in three distinct categories, but I'll just do one right now, where I think a couple of the actors got snubbed for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series.
02:29:11
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There was three... There was three White Lotus actors, three Severance actors, and then one actor from Paradise, James Marsden, right? For supporting. Yeah, for supporting. Outstanding supporting specifically. Are you talking about actor and actress, like both?
02:29:25
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No, just talking about actor. Oh, for actresses, a White Lotus essentially sweeped that. It's like, I think, four or five nominations for White Lotus and the rest are, I think, Paradise Again and other stuff.
02:29:37
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But the idea... what? was saying lead... yeah Oh, yeah, supporting. Supporting. see what you mean. Yeah. Where... where
02:29:49
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I just lost train of thought. Anyways, it doesn't matter. White Lotus, yeah, sweep, crazy. It's nuts. and it's Jesus. Did you watch that, by the way? No. No. I've only seen the first season, which was good. Oh, right.
02:30:01
Speaker
Yeah. Did you watch season three or no? No, just season two and season one. And I intend to go back, go to it. It's just too many shows as we, I'm sure it's great. I'm sure it's great. But the idea that like you're taking up six out of the seven nominations from two like and just just two shows. And then you have the one from paradise, which is pretty impressive.
02:30:21
Speaker
I've heard good things about that paradise show, but there's absolutely no love for Stellan Skarsgård in Andor. Yeah. Or Kyle Soler. Are you fucking kidding me, dude?
02:30:32
Speaker
That's, that's blasphemy. I genuinely believe that's blasphemy. And it, it, it breaks my goddamn heart that that was the case. Alan Tudyk get nominated.
02:30:44
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He got nominated for, where did he get nominated? Actually, i think for a voice acting. Yeah, he did. So, um, but yeah, no, he did. um,
02:30:55
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Yeah, and or. Which is... Character voice performance for Who Else Knows.
02:31:04
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The episode. Oh. I was like, I don't know who else knows. I didn't, obviously.
02:31:11
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But I just find that, honestly, that bullshit and it pisses me off. um Yeah. You know what's interesting about... i don't remember... White Lotus was two years ago. I think it would have been nominated for the for those Emmys. I don't...
02:31:24
Speaker
I'm not the biggest fan of The White Lotus. I feel like it's good. And but I don't want to speak too out of turn because I haven't seen the latest season. I i got to see it first. So i'm not going to call it lame without watching it. But i mean I'm going to say like, I feel like it's a bit overrated as a whole.
02:31:40
Speaker
and Like from the two seasons I've watched. It's great though. i really think it's great. But it's kind of feels like Emmy bait in a big way. And I'm not sure that it's really doing it for me in an overall writing perspective. Like, ah so I'm curious because I know White Lotus was a talk of the town.
02:31:54
Speaker
Everyone was watching it at the time it came out this year and everyone was hyped about it. So it's really cool. Same with Severance as well. it's like that was a big show this year too. So I got to watch White Lotus and then form an opinion on it because it it is, I didn't even realize that it's dominated supporting.
02:32:09
Speaker
That's crazy how many nominees they have for that. Let me double check that for supporting actors. I'm sure it's doing the same thing there. supporting actress it's more it's five uh oh my god four nominations well it's the whole idea of that show is and ah is the ensemble cast i feel like that's the main thing they've going for them as well i wonder what they did for writing because i don't remember now um directing i know that was yeah that's so interesting wow that's crazy no directing oh there's directing there's one episode yeah okay my mike white actually is directed
02:32:46
Speaker
He's the creator of the series. But okay. Yeah, it's cool. All right. Yeah, no, i complete I have that written here too. I have the snub though in terms of acting. I have Diego Luna and Genevieve O'Reilly. Like I think that they were excellent and I think that that was a miss.
02:32:59
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um I don't know if you that was another snub you had written or if you're you're leaving that. Yeah, yeah. I guess like if we're talking about all that. Yeah, I had Diego Luna down as well. I also had Denise Goh or Goff.
02:33:13
Speaker
Goh? I think it's Goff. I'm not sure. Goff? I always thought it was Goff. Come on, dude. Are you kidding me? Denise Goff is crazy good. she's not on there at all no crazy i forgot yeah that she's amazing yeah know i think adria our our hona is also like amazing too yeah like it's just that's crazy to me that none of them got nominated it's like are you fucking kidding me if you were going to at like like literally like gun to my head if if i had to pick one of these people like you got to nominate one of these so you didn't nominate fucking stellan scars guard are you had killed it he really killed it it's crazy fuck
02:33:48
Speaker
dude he has a supporting actor but so there was one nominated as a guest actor it's forrest whitaker and then alan tudyk but forrest whitaker was nominated as guest actor it's like cool but like really he's great he's great in everything where's whitaker is really great he's i will say he's really good but it's like i don't know like diego luna really killed it like uh tony gilroy said it right like once the emmys were not like the um nominees were announced he specifically said like he was kind of disappointed that they didn't get nominated, but it's like in reality that, I don't know, he kind of looked on the bright side. I was like, eh, he was kind of saying it though. He he felt like he was, he's like, yeah I felt like he was saying it. Like, it's like, what are you guys doing? Like you didn't nominate any of these guys. These guys put on a clinic for 24 episodes and they didn't get anything.
02:34:34
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you'll Yeah. Yeah. Cool little ah factwood I don't know if you know this, Simon, but Diego Luna and Adria Arjona, they do the Spanish dub for their characters as well. I know.
02:34:45
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Yeah, it's cool. It's really cool. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah. So I think a lot of work though, apparently they were saying that an interview, there was like a lot of work to do that for some reason because of the way that it's done.
02:34:57
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Cause they have to time it with the lips because they're saying it in English and there's, they're dubbing it. So like they have to try to time it. So it's harder than they, I think they gave them, ah i think they were saying like they gave them an appreciation of the, the dub that has to go. Yeah.
02:35:13
Speaker
Yeah. So yeah, that, that, the that's honestly like all my snubs were Andor. i'll be oh I'll be honest. yeah yeah I only had one and I had Android. I was that. yeah it's Maybe I have another one. I'm going to take a look.
02:35:26
Speaker
It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. All I got to say. Yeah. Okay. um I'll go next, i guess, on the Andor topic. Andor was nominated for directing. Yanis met specifically for episode eight. It's weird that they don't write that anywhere. i don't know if you you could find a document that said what episode. Maybe this one from Wikipedia says it. Vanity Fair has the name of the episode.
02:35:51
Speaker
Okay. Some of them weren't really saying it. I was like, why wouldn't you see the episode? Because like some of these directors or or writers, as an example, might have written multiple. um I'm looking at Wikipedia now. I'm curious if I can find it in here. Yeah, Vanity Fair actually does it poorly because Vanity Fair says the show and then the name, but it doesn't say who actually directed it.
02:36:11
Speaker
so Oh, this is the opposite. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, and or was a Yanis Mets for episode eight, which I think we can agree is one of the better, like one of the best. I shouldn't say better. It's amazing.
02:36:24
Speaker
It's honestly one of the greatest episodes of TV of all time, period, full stop. And I think um and yeah, I guess to piggyback off that outstanding writing for a drama series and or welcome to the rebellion, the follow up to that episode, episode nine.
02:36:37
Speaker
Some of the best writing in it. Oh, so the writing got for episode nine. I couldn't figure out which one. So yeah, good you got that list. Because I was wondering which Dan Gilroy episode it was. Because it's Dan Gilroy, like Tony Gilroy's brother. I'm just like, which which episode is it?
02:36:50
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Oh, it's this it's the ninth episode. yeah So they didn't even get – episode eight wasn't nominated for writing, but it was nominated for directing. That's pretty cool. agree. Good for them. That shows you how much they spread the field in terms of how great the overall season is. That's awesome. Yeah.
02:37:04
Speaker
Okay, cool. I didn't realize. That's awesome. I'm glad you have that list because I couldn't find that. I looked in multiple spots and I could not see where they were writing which episode it was. Okay, cool, man. yeah um Is it my turn then or is it your turn? um I mean, I guess I can continue going. We're just kind of riffing.
02:37:19
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um So yeah, that that's that's what I got for Andor. Again, loved it. that Thought it was... God, I love Andor, man. Oh my God. ah But another big win, which is cool ah for actually both best writing and best directing, sorry, not big win, a big nomination, is Severance ah Cold Harbor.
Severance's Critical Acclaim: Finale Nominations
02:37:38
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the episode I think that is the season finale, if I recall correctly. Yeah, um that's right. And it was also nominated for Best Music as well, which I think is well-deserved because that that specific episode is great. That whole season is incredible for music. Theodore Shapiro.
02:37:53
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So good. yeah Yeah. Actually, it was episode eight that got nominated for Best Music for Andor 2. So by the way, um which it makes sense because we are the gore. um So that's cool.
02:38:04
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yeah um so that that's fantastic i'm very excited again severance is kind of like they they had so many nominations it's crazy it's cool like you know again i i i don't want to take away from the people that did get nominated for the shows that they got nominated for like zach cherry being nominated for supporting actor and tramelle tillman and john totoro like they did so great as well like i don't want to say like oh take it away from all of them but it's like Three, like three nominations for that one show in the one category. It's like spread the love a little bit.
02:38:36
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Come on. Spread the love a little bit. um Oh, interesting. Yeah. So you even you're in poking at Severance.
02:38:48
Speaker
Yeah, dude. Come the fuck on, man. Three. of it I loved that season. Like I thought it was immaculate. Like i thought I think it's so good, but like come the fuck on, dude. Yeah, it it is a bit strange because it's like you. Yeah.
02:39:01
Speaker
yeah that is Yeah, that's a little weird because when you look watch a movie, in in like the the Oscars, right? you're not You're not seeing like that many multiples for best actor from the same movie. It's incredibly rare, actually.
02:39:17
Speaker
So to see that happen, it's like, yeah, we know that these shows are really good and the acting is really good. But again, Diego Luna did kill it. So you kind of like... took that away from him for whatever the other shows are, or you're talking about supporting. So then in that case, Stellan scars guard, like you don't have him in there, but why? Like, it's like, yeah, I can, yeah. I don't want to call anyone out for not, not deserving it. They all potentially deserve it. It's just like, there's, I guess there's a big year for, i don't know. That's strange. Severance. How many nominees did you see? How many nominees they got in total?
02:39:52
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No, no. It's something crazy. Isn't it? Didn't get the most nominations.
02:39:59
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um No, the most nominations was the studio, I think. Oh. The studio got ah specifically is tied for the most comedy series nominations for a series. Oh, maybe not. It's 23.
02:40:14
Speaker
How many nominations
02:40:18
Speaker
did Severance get? Severance gets for 77th Academy.
02:40:26
Speaker
Oh, Academy. Emmy. Emmy.
02:40:32
Speaker
Let's see here. Oh yeah, you're right. They did. Severance got 27. Wow. So comedy, I guess comedy doesn't get as many in total in general, because that's like a huge jump away. 27 nominations for Severance may is the most nominated program for the 77th Primetime Emmy Awards. But I guess if you're doubling up, tripling up your acting nominations, that number becomes a lot easier.
02:40:57
Speaker
Yeah, but not only that, in the Outstanding Supporting Actor and Actress categories in comedy series, it's spread out. like there's Every nomination is slightly different. the The only thing is ah for shrinking, um for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a comedy series, they got two nominations in that.
02:41:14
Speaker
But like every other, it's like someone new from everyone. I guess Actress Abbott Elementary got two nominations for that. So it's like, i don't know, they didn't spread the field as much, which I find it a little bit silly, but whatever.
02:41:28
Speaker
Who cares? yeah I don't do this. i' I don't make the shows.
02:41:36
Speaker
You don't nominate? I don't nominate. Is it the Academy, of these guys? These guys are in Academy as well? No, it's the Emissary. No.
02:41:48
Speaker
I imagine you're joking. I can't see you right now on a different page. What is it called? No, it is Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. Yeah. All right. Whatever. ah Okay. The other thing that's really cool, Harrison Ford received a nomination for the first time ever at the Emmys and Martin Scorsese was nominated for his first acting nomination ever.
First Emmy Nominations: Harrison Ford and Martin Scorsese
02:42:06
Speaker
Yeah. For the studio. So Harrison Ford ford was of course for shrinking and then Martin Scorsese obviously is a big time director. who should be in death stranding but hey guess he didn't didn't want to be in it you know didn't want it i have no idea i'm just joking it's just funny because like george miller's in it and like yamil del toro and i wonder if if kojima tried to have a relation a good relationship like be friends with martin scris says you're spielberg you know that would be like the other two another two legends i think those guys oh
02:42:39
Speaker
Okay. I'll ask you another the time. I don't want to, I don't want to bias you. I'll ask you. ah ah This is a banter topic. I got to remember the beginning of an episode in the future. I got remember to ask, um but I won't, I'll write it down somewhere.
02:42:52
Speaker
um But yeah, your, your pick next. Yeah. So my other pick here is honestly, I just wanted to give a shout out to all the main actors that got nominated for best comedy, like yeah or best actor in in the comedy, best lead actor in a comedy, outstanding comedy or whatever the fuck.
02:43:10
Speaker
that I don't have it open right now. um Adam Brody got nominated for Nobody Wants This. Seth Rogen got nominated for The Studio. Jason Segel got nominated for Shrinking. Martin Short got nominated for Only Murders in the Building, which is great. I haven't watched the last two seasons of Only Murders in the Building, but I'm confident it's still great.
02:43:26
Speaker
And Jeremy Allen White got nominated for The Bear. It's weird, though, that they consider The Bear a comedy. Because like, it's funny, but I feel like it's, eh, I mean, never mind. Who cares? Well, that's the joke every awards ceremony, though.
02:43:41
Speaker
Because i keep winning these comedy categories and really they're not a comedy. Let's be real. yeah Other than it being half hour, that's so that's the only thing that really makes it a comedy. don't know.
02:43:54
Speaker
Yeah, there's not a lot laughs. Yeah. There are some, but it's, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's a drama. Yeah, what about half hour makes it a comedy? That's the other thing too.
02:44:06
Speaker
Like in general. What about half hour TV shows makes makes such a thing, eh? Yeah. Is there a half hour drama at all? No, there's nothing. Not that I can think of.
02:44:17
Speaker
That's why it's a comedy. That's why it's a comedy is because if there is no system. That's true. They don't don't do half-hour dramas. Damn, dude. That's actually... The accessibility of it makes it a comedy.
02:44:30
Speaker
I don't understand what that... What's that about? That's absurd. Like, if Andor was half-hour, would it be a comedy?
02:44:40
Speaker
Some pretty deep stuff in there, but... Damn, dude. I never even considered such a thing. Yeah. There aren't obviously obviously animated TV shows, but animated TV shows are just animated TV shows. They don't fall on comedy, so it doesn't matter anyway.
02:44:55
Speaker
Anyway, it's pretty strange. again that's the Again, that's the joke that has been made. Wasn't it the Schitt's Creek guys that joked about it that one year? It was ah Dan and... Eugene Levy?
02:45:06
Speaker
Eugene have no idea. i don't i thought they were the ones. There was a clip of them like doing... either i don't think they were hosting, but they just did like ah when they were presenting. They were like, the bear? Is that a comedy?
02:45:17
Speaker
I don't know. Because they also therere they're literally... Schitt's Creek is a comedy that won Best Comedy at the Emmys. So i feel like that was part of it too. That was the year they swept. It wasn't the global Golden Globes, right? They swept. Schitt's Creek won like everything.
02:45:30
Speaker
It was for their final season, right? Yeah, they just destroyed. And they never even got any love before. That's what I was hoping would happen, by the way. Did you know, i don't know if we talked about this in depth, but Better Call Saul has like the record for the most nominations with zero wins.
02:45:44
Speaker
Yeah. They have like 40 something nominations. Crazy. How ridiculous is that? That show never won for acting one time? No goddamn way that can be true.
02:45:56
Speaker
That's absurd. But it got nominated many times though. At least it got nominated unlike Andor. And Orkid barely got nominated for acting at all and they only have two seasons. It's ridiculous.
02:46:07
Speaker
It's absurd. Yeah, there's like – I don't know. There's always that idea like Oscar bait, Emmy bait. you know like there's this like there's like i've read I'm sure it's cliquey and I'm sure it's marketed. you know They market to them the the people at the academy like for your consideration. They want people to – like on Deadline, when you go on Deadline, they're on the banner. because The only place I ever see it ah is on those like those trades trades websites.
02:46:31
Speaker
but like You'll see it on the side. It's for your consideration. It will so it will show like the bear. It's like, okay. Because you don't see that on YouTube. They're not trying to advertise on YouTube to me. for It's not for my consideration.
Colbert's Social Media Success: Media Consumption Shift
02:46:42
Speaker
But people are going to be in the industry. They're using deadlines. sign specifically says for your consideration. For Simon. Yeah, for Simon's consideration. No. yeah but But that's interesting to think. That's why I know I'm on the right website when it's on deadline.
02:46:54
Speaker
And when somebody comes up to me and says, oh, did you hear that – I don't know, some stupid thing that doesn't make any sense. Do you know that The Last of Us is being remade next year, actually, because of ah they didn't like Bella Ramsey or some stupid nonsense that's just bullshit? Is that true? but No, it's not true.
02:47:10
Speaker
And then I'll be like, if the if that wasn't on Deadline, The Hollywood Reporter, a variety, I don't trust it. And that's that's for sure. Because if they one of those guys didn't pick it up, and that's not happening.
02:47:22
Speaker
that's ah That's kind of my rule of thumb. So I always check it on those three websites because they know what they're talking about. Typically. anyway, my next pick is going to be one that we just kind of talked about. So I'll be brief.
02:47:33
Speaker
and But ah Stephen Colbert's show was nominated for Best Talk Show, but was canceled three days later. Like three days after they got nominated, they got canceled. Yeah. They were nominated alongside Kimmel's show and The Daily Show.
02:47:46
Speaker
And The Daily Show is also on CBS. And Jon Stewart of The Daily Show was very critical this week. Very critical of the firing. So I'm curious to see because CBS owns Daily Show, of course. They own Comedy Central.
02:48:00
Speaker
Really? will they Will they shut it down as well? Oh, what did I think?
02:48:06
Speaker
Because Daily Show, it's on HBO, which is Warner Brothers. No, The Daily Show is on Comedy Central. Oh, shit, dude. i'm I'm mixing it up. You're right. You're right. so Sorry. i was You said John Stewart. Oliver? John He's going to kill it because he kills it every year and they make a lot of money and they're on HBO. I feel like that show the most popular of all of the shows. That's not really a talk show, so it's in a different category.
02:48:27
Speaker
Because there's no guests on that show at all. um I love that show. That's my favorite of the of the talk show. i watch a lot of those late nights because they're they're funny and they they I know it makes the medicine go down easy.
02:48:38
Speaker
Like seeing the comedy version of the the crazy shit politics that are happening right now. It's a it's easier to to digest. I find. And and there're it's accurate. And then if there's something I'm not sure about, I can just check it it check up the on the depressing version of the news later. you know i can just double check it later.
02:48:58
Speaker
But um it's it's sad that Colbert is going because I do watch his show, and like ah especially his monologue. And also, the other reason, also, this is crazy, by the way. So we look at the fact that obviously linear TV is declining and late night show is not what it was.
02:49:13
Speaker
That's a fact. No doubt. I'm not disputing that. But when you look at the way they're doing it with social media, especially The Tonight Show is crazy on social media. They have like millions of subscribers on Instagram as an example.
02:49:24
Speaker
Same with Kimmel, same with Colbert. But The Tonight Show is like the top of the social media type thing. YouTube as well. And then Kimmel's in the middle for both. He's in the middle of linear and he's in the middle of of social media. Colbert is the bottom of social media, but he's the top of the ratings on linear.
02:49:41
Speaker
So it's like it's kind of like a flip. Interesting. But that's not their only thing. So they're making money off, sure, they're making money off YouTube and they're making money off the socials and whatever. They're making TikToks and lots of other things. There's lots of other revenue streams. That's that's what their strategy is at this point because linear TV is dying. That's not about talk shows dying. it's not about late night shows dying.
02:50:01
Speaker
It's about that type of TV dying. That's what's happening. But then, so that's tricky because then how do you sell to advertisers with the upfronts and all that stuff? But Colbert is not just doing this. Neither is Kimmel, neither is Fallon.
02:50:14
Speaker
They end up, what they do, especially for ah Kimmel, but um it's CBS is paramount. So you have people, like Mission Impossible comes out. Then you have the actor from Mission Impossible to promote the movie on the, they come to the set and they are on the show to promote the movie. So you're promoting movies within your own network, with um within your own,
02:50:38
Speaker
Big publishing house, it's not a freaking book. What am I trying to say? You know what I'm talking about? Within Paramount Family, you're trying to so your son has sell the movie. Same with the ABC. Kimmel always has a Marvel team of people on. And when they're going to have probably, the if they haven't already done it, they'll have Fantastic Four, the whole cast. on to be interviewed it to gear up for Fantastic Four First Steps.
02:51:01
Speaker
And that's useful because you advertise inside. Then you have Kimmel and Colbert and and Seth Meyers, whoever, they host the Emmys or they host on your network the Oscars. Jamie Kimmel has hosted the Oscars many times on ABC, many times.
02:51:15
Speaker
And so you use those connections. They still get paid for that too, but there is a benefit to that overall marketing platform in that regard. so like You can say, oh, they're losing. They claim that over they're losing $40 million dollars a year, which I also think is bullshit Hollywood hollywood accounting, that you just basically fudge the numbers to make it not look profitable.
02:51:33
Speaker
But yeah, it's not profitable in the linear networks. I completely agree. But when you take all the other stuff, like you're marketing within your own thing, you have ah you now have a spokesperson who goes to the upfronts to sell advertisements, to sell to the advertisers for your network later.
02:51:48
Speaker
That's what they do. They have Seth Meyers go and... Tell jokes on stage to sell to the advertisers before we don't see that as ah the audience. The advertisers do in the big network, big wigs see it.
02:52:00
Speaker
Kim will go for ABC and he'll he'll tell a bunch of jokes and like in that big room of people who are basically like, i don't know, Coca-Cola and all the various advertising agencies there to to to buy ads on the platform.
02:52:14
Speaker
That's kind of the idea. So like, it's ridiculous. It's so funny because like their argument is that they're not making money, but it's like, well, they're not making money in this one thing. There's other things that help you to not have any late night hosts at all. Cause CBS already lost the late, late show. They that's gone.
02:52:30
Speaker
James Corden has been gone. So they already kicked that thing to the curb. That's already over. So they have the least already. And they all, they're the the second most storied one. The tonight show is obviously the most storied because of Johnny Carson.
02:52:43
Speaker
But obviously, David Letterman is like a freaking household name because of that show. And yeah, it's gone downhill since David Letterman, but it was going downhill with David Letterman because ah the linear network is declining. It's just the nature of how it goes.
02:52:58
Speaker
So anyway, that's my that's but i said it was going to be fast, but that wasn't fast. But I don't know if that was helpful in any capacity to explain it. i Because I keep seeing on Reddit in various places, people are complain like, oh, it's bad. he just He's not doing well. It's like none of them are doing better than they were because it it's just – that's how linear networks have gone. You're not on linear TV, right? No.
02:53:20
Speaker
Yeah. i don't know if you watch any of those guys at all. No. and Okay. That's fair. Yeah. That's why I digest my politics. It's just easier to – o No, dude, I digest politics by reading um things online in two sentence structures to incite anger and to ruin my day.
02:53:42
Speaker
Facebook specifically. Facebook's the best place for news. Everyone knows that. Yeah, I use Apple News a lot too, but yeah. Apple News is probably the best place to be.
02:53:53
Speaker
I try not to be on social media at all. I hate social media. It's so so awful. I just, I go on it for you and my fiance. obviously Yeah. yeah I'm not even joking. Oh, I'm on Instagram only essentially.
02:54:06
Speaker
And I'm on there for the memes for you and my fiance. I tried to, I don't send you too many memes just because like, like you know, i'll so I'll send you very curated ones.
02:54:16
Speaker
because You're funny. Well, why, why not? Well, I don't know. I know that you don't really care about it. You don't like all of them. feel like you don't respond. You don't send too many either. So it's like, I'll keep it curated. I'll keep it small for you. I appreciate that. Sure.
02:54:33
Speaker
There was a time where i you would send me a lot of them and I would go through them all at once. Yeah. Because I would look at them all at once. But then you would get you got one time you got you gott offended by it.
02:54:43
Speaker
you like, what are you doing? you're You're not even looking at them. I'm like, I am looking at them. I think it's funnier though to look them all and then like them really fast because then it's so aggressive. I think it's more I don't like that. I don't like that. in it I know, but it's more fun that way. So that's when I looked at them and that's when I liked them.
02:55:00
Speaker
Yeah. So I just, I just try to, you know, send you the odd one. I'm going to actually send you one because this is a brief aside. You brought up Fantastic Four. yeah briefly and there's a video where it's ah vanessa kirby and pedro pascal and they're like being interviewed and the interviewer is like talking to vanessa kirby being like oh yeah you know like people are loving you online i think she's like a british woman like and you got like you know pardon me you're saying vanessa kirby's british no the the the interview oh the interview yeah yeah but i don't know i can't remember here oh you're gonna play it
02:55:36
Speaker
Should I? Okay, fuck. Just send me later. Okay. We're doing a podcast. Yeah. Well, I wanted to play it because it's like a specific phrase that the interviewer uses. I see. andset I'm just going to it. Where is it from? At least credit it.
02:55:49
Speaker
I don't know. It's from Pedestrian TV. Oh, I don't know what that shit is. I don't know what the fuck Pedestrian TV is, but they they're interviewing Pedro Pascal and Vanessa Kirby. Jumping right into you, Vanessa. You've kind of become a social media icon for your force field snatched.
02:56:04
Speaker
Cunty, fierceness, face. Oh, my God. How did you come about to go into that? mean, that's good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. Cunty face is good, babe. What's that from sunglasses, maybe?
02:56:15
Speaker
Cunty face just means fierce. Does it mean, like, Fabulous, beautiful, strong. Strong. It's good. It's good. Okay. Independent. I promise.
02:56:27
Speaker
going to send this to you right now just so you can actually see their facial expressions as well. But yeah, it's it is crazy. like She's like, what the fuck? Didn't this woman just call me a cuck? Did you just insult me? No, but in in Britain though, like she's british Vanessa Kirby's British too. She's from the UK.
02:56:44
Speaker
So like that, kind like, i mean, kind of exactly the same connotation. Yeah, but it's like the, the gay population kind of took it over. Um, like one of my good friends, David, he'll say like, Oh, like you're, you're serving or like you're serving cunt, you know? And that's like a good thing.
02:57:02
Speaker
So like, Oh, you know, like I learned this, like, i don't know, within the last year and I was like, what? Sure. you So you think in North America, it's become more ah okay to say. Maybe. Yeah. I just, well, like calling someone a cunt and being like, oh, you're looking cunty is different.
02:57:19
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Like a compliment versus like bad thing. That's clearly evidenced by that interviewer said that. You know, I'm, I'm ingratiated into the lazar lasagna garlic bread time question mark community.
02:57:32
Speaker
Lasagna. What? Lasagna garlic bread time question mark. LGBTQ dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2A plus. I don't know the full thing. What's the Q? What did you do for the No, no, no. I know what the Q is in the actual acronym. You ended it.
02:57:48
Speaker
Lasagna garlic bread time question mark. Oh, question. Oh, question. Why is it M? i just. What am I just going to say? I don't know. I don't know that many Q words. It would just be question. Question. There's no mark.
02:58:02
Speaker
Yeah. anyway yeah anyways what do I what the Q was queer. yeah but i know what the actual acronym is. It's queer, I'm like, I know. okay um We've gone really sidetracked. I went really crazy with my explanation yeah of late night tv and that my my you know the loss the loss we've we've had here. My favorite late night comedian was Craig Ferguson. I've said this before.
02:58:28
Speaker
It's very sad that Late Late Show was gone. He was also on CBS. He also made fun of CBS quite a lot. It's interesting to see like CBS get taken over by... That's another whole thing. like You have Skydance coming to take it over. it seems like the dude, like David Ellison, seems to be pretty right-wing. So it'll be interesting to see. CBS is not a very right-wing network, but Fox is.
02:58:48
Speaker
So I'm curious, is is it going to become a right-wing... Is CBS going to Paramount going to be right-wing? Are we only going to have... What's that guy's name? Shapiro movies? Shapiro. oh Ben Shapiro?
02:59:01
Speaker
Ben Shapiro? Isn't he making producing movies? What's going to happen now with Paramount content? is because there' Everything's too woke, right? Oh, I forgot to say this.
02:59:12
Speaker
Kevin Feige also said in that interview with all those reporters that um the Marvel Cinematic Universe is not too woke. that What Marvel has tried to do from the beginning, and they've met before and after people kept saying woke since 2008,
02:59:26
Speaker
and They try to make it so that it's the the world outside your window, as he described it. yeah We see lots of people outside. It's not just white people. So that's what we try to show.
02:59:38
Speaker
ah when we when we do We're not doing anything different than we did before, which I'm like, that's really pretty respectable, I think, to say, because that is what it is. But yeah that's not what people think. Marvel's woke, Adrian. It's woke, like Superman.
02:59:52
Speaker
Anyway. Yeah. But yeah. Anyway. It's fucking returned. It is what it is. But I'll see what what happens to CBS. that's That's the question. Is CBS going to be something completely different?
03:00:03
Speaker
It would have been interesting if Sony did take it over because Sony would not have done that. Like Sony's like more center, if anything, they're just a company with a capital C in a large way.
03:00:14
Speaker
They're not like, can I just have like some political agenda to to run? And they're also Japanese. So they don't have any, they don't necessarily have to like do this nonsense. Skydance is American from my understanding.
03:00:25
Speaker
So yeah. I think, right? Skydance isn't from the UK, is it? I don't know why. I always assumed Skydance was British, but you might be look. Skydance is an American media company and finance company based in Santa Monica, California.
03:00:38
Speaker
um Founded by David Ellison in 2006. Interesting. Apparently, he's right-leaning. California. Yeah, you'd think he wouldn't be right-leaning he's in California. I don't know.
03:00:50
Speaker
I don't know. Mystery. We'll see what happens. But I think a lot of those billionaires are right-leaning because they want to make more money. Yeah, it is interesting, though, like, to be fair, like. There aren't many like talk shows.
03:01:03
Speaker
That I mean, I guess it's all online, it's all on like your rumbles and random streaming service, but there there isn't like a TV talk show where it's like a more right wing presenter. So there is it might be interesting. There is Gutfield Gutfeld. I don't know who that is, dude.
03:01:19
Speaker
He's on last week. Oh, he's on Fox last week. But is it like the late show? Is it like that?
03:01:27
Speaker
It is like that. What is it called? It's called Gutfield. His name is Gutfield. And then with an exclamation point. Gutfield. And I'm going to send you a link right now. no.
03:01:38
Speaker
i I don't know if I can find a good one, though. ah kind of like He said something along the lines of like, we should we should we should free the word Nazi. like like ah He said something along the lines, we should free the word Nazi like black people freed the N-word.
03:01:58
Speaker
That's what he said. What? He said, and he said, no way. That's unbelievable. Find the clip yourself. It's absurd. But that's, ah that's the comedy they've got over there.
03:02:10
Speaker
That's the, that's the, his ratings are actually quite good. But the thing is, is that, of course they are. Because there's only one. Yeah. There's only one. So everyone is, it's all split, right? They're all split between Kimmel, Myers, ah Fallon and Colbert versus, and, and, and the Daily Show with Jon Stewart and the other hosts that are on there now, because it's the split, various hosts, and, and John Oliver versus Gottfeld.
03:02:36
Speaker
Look at the Nazi thing. That's ridiculous. It's an unbelievable thing. I'm living in a bubble, eh? Because like, Yeah, like this has been around for a while. He gets a lot of views, I guess. Yeah, he's at three. i think his ratings were like almost 4 million, if I recall correctly. And Colbert is about 2.5 million. But that doesn't mean anything because if you add it all up between the other hosts, they're destroying Gutfeld. But that doesn't matter because that's that's not what they're going to look at. it's not the It's not the buzzy headline, you know?
03:03:02
Speaker
But that the Nazi thing's crazy. Greg Gutfeld wants to know who the asshole is. is on This is I mean, that might be biased. That article is free. The News host's latest gag is instructing conservatives to say to each other, what up, my Nazi?
03:03:18
Speaker
Yes. Hey, what up, my Nazi? That he did say. That was quoted. i saw the clip. and I'm pretty sure I saw the clip of this. It is unbelievable. It's worth seeing the clip. I feel like you can find the YouTube clip. It's probably easier to... Maybe the...
03:03:32
Speaker
you find it just as ah maybe Maybe they blocked it out because it's so absurd. So Fox was like, you know, this is going a bit too far. Maybe this guy makes good stuff. Maybe he's just a little bit...
03:03:49
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He's a little bit what? and what is he Maybe he's a comp comedian.
03:03:56
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um He's a comedian. That is what he's supposed to be anyway. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. You don't have to go that far. You could be a bit more centered. You're just looking for it.
03:04:13
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looking for it Well, I can't find it. Whatever. I'll find it. I'll find it after. But yeah, they do have one. ah And obviously now they even have like, I think probably a bit more left wing, although it's probably just a nutty show is frigging. What's his name on Netflix, right?
03:04:29
Speaker
What's this dude? What's this guy? like John Laney. Yeah, he's got a talk show now. I wonder if Colbert will land on his feet. Will he will someone else pick him up? like Like, it would be like Disney Plus. Like, hey, guy, want to be...
03:04:40
Speaker
No, Disney Plus wouldn't do it because they Kimmel, so that's a waste of money. Netflix would have been the one to do it, or Amazon would be the one to do it, but Amazon's got Jeff Bezos. He's pretty ingrained in making more money, too, so I don't think you'll- I mean, maybe it would make him a lot of money.
03:04:55
Speaker
could see Netflix do that. No, Bezos needed the Washington Post, right? Oh, yeah. He didn't want the Washington Post to post because just Donald Trump said no. that's true It's crazy, actually. so like they're they're suit Donald Trump's suing the Wall Street Journal. do you see that?
03:05:09
Speaker
No. Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns Fox, because they posted that but Epstein thing. There's that Epstein birthday letter from Trump. ah Allegedly. Allegedly. They're suing him because they said it's not real.
03:05:22
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But it's like, I don't think the Wall Street Journal owned by Rupert Murdoch would do that because they they are very right wing. So why would they post it? Why would they even release the article if it wasn't real?
03:05:32
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You should take a look at it. It's really creepy. It's one it's a very creepy letter, whether it's real or not. It's written really creepily. And it's likerit it's he he wrote his signature. as like ah he he He drew a picture of a woman.
03:05:44
Speaker
but like And then the say his like the Donald apparently is like the pubic hair on the woman. how it's written. But it's very weird language. like the word The language used is very strange. the But the weirdest thing is the Wall Street Journal aspect of it because they're very a very right-wing publication.
03:06:00
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to The fact that they they would write that they would take that risk because they knew that he was going to sue them. And he is. He's suing them for $10 billion. $10 billion? $10 billion, dude? Yes.
03:06:11
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It's a lot of money. That's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. I love what we say. We're going political, but who's the last thing to this shit anyway? yeah We can do whatever we want on this... 45 minutes talking about politics yeah of political stuff who cares who cares man yeah its well it's kind intertwined now and in the most yeah ridiculous way possible but tariffs Tariffs.
03:06:34
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Tariffs. Yeah. Anyway, the last thing I'll say, no two more things. Lots of writing and directing nominations and nominations in general for The Penguin. Penguin's a great show. Amazing. I forgot that it would be in this in this Emmy cycle.
03:06:46
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It's pretty neat that that's there. And then the last one I have here is HBO medical drama, The Pit. Just clean want watch that. ah my fiance watched it she didn't really say it was that amazing though but i guess it's amazing because it's a lot of so this has a medical show because it's on hbo a lot of naked bodies you know how you like watch gray's anatomy and it's not really that naked like you see the gore little bit but you don't see the penis lots of penises lots of penises dude and various naked versions of people Just it's, it's obviously it's HBO.
03:07:15
Speaker
So they're not afraid, not afraid of the penis. Fair enough. Yeah. I also had, um, you penguin, uh, being, being nominated, um, Colin Farrell and Christian Melody being nominated for best actor and actress respectively for limited series.
03:07:30
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And my final one here, outstanding reality competition program the traders being nominated is great i really like that show it's really fun alan coming being nominated as the uh host um outstanding host in a in a reality show as well cool good stuff the traders is really fun man it's genuinely a fun time i really enjoyed that show that's right well i watched the next season i don't know i don't have crave anymore so all right i'm sorry okay
03:08:01
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Okay. Is it the last thing? Yeah, i think that's it. I'll just say one more thing. Any predictions?
03:08:10
Speaker
Oh, i'll just who might win. Who might win? I only got two, the predictions for the top awards written here. so Oh, I didn't do predictions, actually. that's ah Yeah, yeah just just like the top ones. like Who do you think will win Outstanding Comedy Series and Outstanding Drama Series? And if you want to do Outstanding Limited Series.
03:08:26
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but I feel Outstanding Comedy Series. Outstanding Comedy Series, is The Studio. Yeah, I think
Outstanding Drama Series: Emmy Predictions
03:08:33
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so too. Outstanding Drama Series, The drama series Probably Severance.
03:08:40
Speaker
I want it to be Andor, but probably Severance. Do you think it'll be the White Lotus? Ooh, actually, that's a good point. I didn't watch it, so I don't know. I want it to be Andor too, I think. But you don't want it be Severance. im mean That's interesting.
03:08:52
Speaker
I like Andor more than Severance. I think I do too. It's crazy. I love Severance. Don't get me wrong. It's like comparing diamonds with another nicer diamonds.
03:09:04
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Yeah, i yeah, it's true. very Incredible analogy. Unbelievable. I love how Slow Horses gets nominated every year. doesn't win anything. but Ever? I don't know if it's won anything big.
03:09:16
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Maybe it'll take away the Better Call Saul crown. I don't know. I feel like it won something. Hopefully. The Slow Horses won an Emmy. Yeah. well Also, they're going to do more seasons.
03:09:28
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They're frigging, that's a powerhouse. In a time when we don't get seasons for like two years gaps, like for most shows, like Slow Horses is launching, like they're launching a season every year, like a network.
03:09:40
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Well, it's only six episodes a season to be fair, but. Oh, they're doing the British thing. Is it a very British show? It's British. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What do you mean? It's London is the MI5.
03:09:51
Speaker
that yeah i don't know I don't remember what you told me about it. do i did i did i I feel like this is the show that I should recommend to you. like I haven't recommended you any TV show, movie, or video game since Andor.
03:10:07
Speaker
I think this would be the show to recommend to you. It's ah amazing. um I'm really slow to watch it too because I'm like, I love it so much. it's all and that's Honestly, Slow Horses is a comedy more than it more than The Bear.
03:10:20
Speaker
The Bear is not a comedy at all. Slow Horses is incredibly entertaining. Gary Oldman's hilarious. hilarious it's so funny it's not like a deliberate comedy it's not like a is it an hour long it's not the office no it's how oh yeah that's the thing it's an hour long that's why i can't be a comedy yeah it's impossible that's the rule yes little horses won at least one emmy award and this is freaking gemini google gemini so take this with a grain of salt but um at the 76 primetime awards will smith won the emmy for outstanding writing for a drama series oh okay cool man know what's awesome smith the actor
03:10:53
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah.
Apple's AI Features: Disappointment Discussed
03:10:55
Speaker
You know, what's awesome about AI and stuff that Apple released their iPhone 15. I'm just talking about how AI is going to be its core functionality and that they're going to update Siri. And then they delayed the Siri AI update until next year, which is fucking awesome.
03:11:09
Speaker
It's fucking stupid. and I didn't buy that phone because of it. I needed a new iPhone. So I just got the latest and greatest, but it's like you're marketing this as like the, the big key change key selling feature. And it's like,
03:11:21
Speaker
You didn't do that. You didn't do that. Why did that up? How did you get this? What did you get this segue? Google Gemini. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's not even close. Yeah. yeah They're are so behind. Siri was like popularized theoretically like these not AI, but these voice voice assistants and then they just never did anything with it for years. Yeah, mentally. And then PT ate their lunch. Ate lunch.
03:11:45
Speaker
Yeah, mentally. Yeah, I was always going to do like a focus special segment talking about like the ridiculousness of AI and how like people just think that AI is like the be all and end all of everything. Like, but they love it so much, but they also don't understand the implications, like how it's stealing all
AI's Impact: Plagiarism and Authenticity Concerns
03:12:02
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the stuff off. It's just scraping the internet. And if you never go to that website because as they're run by ads, you just literally, you're just, it will just fail. It's almost like piracy, but like we're acceptable.
03:12:12
Speaker
Yeah. You realize it's also interesting as well. You're just like plagiarizing everything everything you write, even like emails. You just write the email with AI. it's like Is it in your words? When I was in school, was like, write it in your own words.
03:12:25
Speaker
Sorry, what were you saying It's also interesting. But no, like it's interesting because like so many other websites now are just essentially being written by AI. And it's like, AI is stealing from AI. And it's like this endless like cycle. What is it?
03:12:38
Speaker
Isn't it like the dead internet theory that eventually it's just like, AI is only going to be talking to itself on the internet and like we won't even use internet. Yeah. Okay. That's scary. Not much AI used in the show at all.
03:12:50
Speaker
The only AI used is I use it like an AI like acid in our, I wish I could say I didn't use it at all, but I i thought about this deeply. i was like, did I use AI? I use an AI image in, in a thing I made.
03:13:03
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I spent all the time making it, but I just used an AI like TV for the closer look. And that's it. None the writing is in this show at all. None of the, obviously us talking is AI.
03:13:16
Speaker
I wonder if that's the thing that will happen is that everyone will just advertise. This is not made with AI. This is authentic. Mm-hmm. But I felt like that using the AI image of the TV is is like the same as if I went in and got a, went to a website and like, like I just took a TV picture because I don't have an old TV to take a picture of.
03:13:36
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it was like, if I had my own photo, I feel like it's the same thing and in theory. but But yeah, that's the only thing. Otherwise I didn't really use that TV is just part of that clip.
03:13:48
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Mostly was made by me. Yeah. It's, it's interesting. I was, um,
03:13:55
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. i like i they put like At my previous job that ah that I now don't work at anymore, they pushed AI like a lot. like We had a new v that a new VP of sales. She was like, I love AI. like We're going to be using it.
03:14:05
Speaker
And then they really pushed it for like email writing and stuff like that. and Right, but yeah. Did you do it? I did do a lot of AI stuff at the end. and I'm like, this is easy. like This is good, I guess. But it's like...
03:14:18
Speaker
There's no authenticity at all. Yeah. it's And it's like, I would go in and rewrite things because it's like, i mean, chat GPT loves dashes.
AI Content Creation: 'Dead Internet' Concept
03:14:26
Speaker
All right. Yeah. yeah It's not your own words anymore.
03:14:30
Speaker
Yeah. That's so strange though, because it's just not with the way I was trained in school, like through university and high school. I don't understand why that's not not not valued anymore. Yes, it's easier, but it's making our society dumber.
03:14:43
Speaker
Is that useful? And as we've said before, these search searches are really bad. They search Reddit and they search other things for facts and they don't understand sarcasm and they just present it as facts. That's why, was it Google that said that you should eat rocks?
03:14:59
Speaker
Yeah. Whatever shit. Yeah. like But that happens all the time. And we've talked about this before. Whenever I search anything, like I'm always like very skeptical. I'll click the link because I'm like, there's no point in this. And then it's, again, it's also ripping off the, ripping off all of these websites. Because if you don't have ad ad revenue, the websites don't exist.
03:15:17
Speaker
So if there's only ai these websites won't even exist. They won't exist at all anyway. You know what I'm saying? like yeah As much as it's AI talking to each other, it won't be because they won't be able to rip.
03:15:28
Speaker
Well, I guess they can rip off the other AI that they've ripped off from the previous website that is now dead because they can't sustain themselves because they can't they don't have ads anymore. Anyway.
03:15:40
Speaker
Okay. Sorry, do you have anything else to add or say? No, no, no. Okay. I'm going to move
Podcast Episode Critique: Entertainment Value
03:15:48
Speaker
on. don't. Yeah, this AI stuff's crazy. Which was not even about the Emmys mostly.
03:15:53
Speaker
Yeah, dude, we went off on a tangent. Lots of tangents. We're pretty deep in this, but it's okay. Three hours. We're three hours into this podcast. It's exciting. and Yeah, that's what they're doing. reviewing is this is this even Is this even entertaining at all? I guess you'll tell me if you listen to this in the future.
03:16:15
Speaker
I'm going to say no. You think it's not entertaining? Our worst episode. Dude, by far, man. Oh, yeah? is I think this is this was awful. i I hated all of this.
03:16:30
Speaker
Whoa. Okay. No, I'm getting facetious, dude. You know me. You know me. I don't know. You could be telling the truth. No, not telling the truth. Regardless, it is time to move on now, Adrian. Now onto a segment of our show that I like to call Look to the Future. Look Future.
03:16:47
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A portion of our podcast where each of us present at least three of our picks for the TV series or movies that look most interesting to us. but releasing between the dates of July 19th, 2025 and August 11th, 2025. Adrian, as his customer, you go first.
03:17:01
Speaker
What is your first prick pick? Yes,
Upcoming Movie Releases: Anticipation and Ratings
03:17:03
Speaker
Simon. i will tell you what my first pick is as I open up my document that I closed on my phone. My first pick, Simon, is the movie...
03:17:16
Speaker
Together, starring ah Dave Franco and Alison Brie. It's coming out July 30th. It is ah the best rated horror movie of the year. I think it's still sitting at 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. It's like a body horror movie.
03:17:30
Speaker
um Looks super intriguing. I haven't watched. they I think they released another trailer the other day. haven't watched it ah because i'm I'm quite confident i'm going to watch this movie.
03:17:42
Speaker
You want to watch this or is this a no-go for you? I know you mentioned, I think you said no. We've got so much to watch and I really want to see Eddington and I want to see Fantastic Four. Okay. And then there's a couple other things that are coming out that I'm interested in. So I think- It's lot. I'm going pass on this one because we've got too much coming out.
03:17:55
Speaker
Fuck. Okay. I'm watching this one alone. Okay. I'm watching it alone, dude. Enjoy it. Fantastic Four, by the way, we didn't talk about this, but it's 88% of Rotten Tomatoes.
03:18:06
Speaker
Good for them. They did it. it's It's every other Fantastic Four movie combined as a score. Is it actually? I don't know. It's probably fairly close. I just kind of said that, but.
03:18:18
Speaker
Maybe. Yeah, it's interesting. um Okay. Well, obviously, i Fantastic Four would have already come out, so that's not a pick for me. I'm going to pick The Naked Gun coming out ah August first The Naked Gun, Adrian, is a reboot, soft reboot, with Liam Neeson, playing the son of Leslie Nielsen's character.
03:18:39
Speaker
So we'll see. We'll see how it goes. so This is written, I believe, by... Is it also directed by Seth MacFarlane, isn't it?
03:18:48
Speaker
Seth Naked Gun. Isn't it? I don't know for a fact. I think... and know it's not. I'm so wrong about that. Why did I think that?
03:18:59
Speaker
It's Akiva Schaefer, the dude for from... Who did Never Stop Never Stopping or whatever. Yeah. Popstar. it No, Akiva Schaefer is the dude from Lonely Island. He's a Lonely Island dude. that's but Why do I think that it's Seth MacFarlane related at all?
03:19:15
Speaker
Maybe he produced it? I don't know. i don't even see his name in any way. Yeah, i don't know. No idea.
The Naked Gun Reboot: Seth MacFarlane's Involvement
03:19:24
Speaker
Okay, crazy.
03:19:25
Speaker
All right, well that's my pick. Anyway, do you have any interest in this? I'm curious. You never watched the originals though, right? No, no, i haven't. um However, like I did watch like Airplane, which I know it's not the same movie, but it's the same sort of slapstick comedy and I enjoyed that.
03:19:42
Speaker
Like I enjoy that style of humor. Yeah. But yeah, not something I ever like watched or or was interested in. But I mean, I'd watch this if you want to. It's coming out the day after together.
03:19:53
Speaker
so There's so much stuff coming out. We could do a double feature, dude. Yeah, potentially. Seth MacFarlane produced it. I found his name in the... Okay, I was right, dude. You looked at me like I was an idiot.
03:20:04
Speaker
Did I? Okay, well, I'm sorry for that. Anyway,
Zack Greger's 'Weapons': High Expectations
03:20:07
Speaker
what's your next pick? Yeah. My next pick, Simon, is
03:20:13
Speaker
Weapons. It's coming out August 8th. It's the new Zack Greger movie. um The guy that did Barbarian. The guy that's going to do the new Resident Evil reboot, I guess.
03:20:24
Speaker
um The guy's name is all over Companion, even though he didn't direct it. Yeah, it's from the mind that brought you Companion. Not really, though. Yeah, no. In name alone. Yeah, so i'm I'm excited about this. I didn't watch the most recent trailer because I don't need to.
03:20:40
Speaker
Because... It's good. It looks good. I'm sure it's going to be good. I'm going to watch it. There's so many weapons in that trailer. It's crazy. How many? At least 10. 10 weapons, dude?
03:20:51
Speaker
Yeah. 10? Yeah. No, didn't watch the trailer. I have no idea. Oh. I was going to ask which weapons. Mind. te 10 weapons? mind Mind weapon?
03:21:03
Speaker
That's number one. Okay. Yeah. What's another weapon? Finger. Finger is another weapon. Okay.
03:21:16
Speaker
Teeth. Teeth. Okay. Yeah.
Freaky Friday Sequel: Comparisons and Expectations
03:21:20
Speaker
Teeth weapon. Yeah. pen mightier than the sword pen weapon i'm not gonna go through 10 this is incredibly boring i'm gonna pick my next pick though shit my next pick is freaky or friday adrian comes out august 8th the same day that weapons comes out august 8th is this coming out the theaters though it is or is it just coming to disney place no it's coming out theaters release and i was confused by that because weapons is a wide release oh trust me eyes so the ads on fucking disney plus are shoving this movie down my throat it's coming to theaters
03:21:49
Speaker
I know that much. Cool. Are you excited? Freaky Friday? and I watched it when I was young. I don't really remember it. Obviously, this a sequel to the Freaky Friday with Lindsay Lohan and Jamie Lee Curtis.
03:22:02
Speaker
Yeah. Which came out in what? 2001? don't even know. Freaky Friday. That seems like day. that seems like a day Yeah, they swap bodies. and This time they're doing a Jumanji, though.
03:22:15
Speaker
but The Jumanji sequel movie where they swap bodies but with different people. Right. to jama The Jumanji sequels are swapping bodies. yeah Those are good movies. Those movies weren't that bad. yeah They were fun. I like those.
03:22:30
Speaker
like I like those movies a lot. Honestly, better than Jurassic... Jurassic world rebirth. I'll give you that much. I don't know. I think it was better. Yeah. It's more entertaining. No, I like this.
03:22:41
Speaker
I don't know. They're just like, they know what they are in fundamental ways. i't yeah I don't know. just don't like the writing and dress. We're worth it. We're worth it. just write it better. that's all I'm saying. Anyway, your pick, your next pick, Simon, my next pick, let me just verify this. Cause I'm pretty sure this is coming out, but now I'm just like question myself. Cause I only watched the trailer once I'm like, it has, it is. What is this?
03:23:03
Speaker
What is the movie sketch? Yeah. yeah It's like a, it's a horror comedy. um Cause I think it was like released in at like, um like last year like events.
03:23:18
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know what events it's rated incredibly well. There's only 12 reviews, but it's a hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes and it starts like Tony Hale. And it's about like, um, You know, a young girl and she's like doing a bunch of drawings in her book and then all her like sketches are coming to life.
03:23:36
Speaker
So it's like like a kid horror movie in a weird way, but it seems like also lighthearted and funny and like what like kind of emotional. Yeah, that's good.
03:23:47
Speaker
That's good. interesting yeah it's it's coming out august 6th so two days darcy carden in it i don't know who seth warley is he's the director yeah me either for this first movie like his first big one obviously not his first movie but first like big film yeah the film pre premiered in this special presentations program at the 2024 toronto international film festival tiff Tiff.
03:24:13
Speaker
All right. Cool, man. All right. Cool. What number are we on? Is that your last pick? That's my last one, technically, yeah. What do I have left? I have a few left here. Spit them out.
03:24:25
Speaker
I've got Chief of War, the Jason Momoa Hawaiian drama where he plays the Chief of War. Yeah, he's putting on an accent for it. I just saw the trailer. i Oh, yeah? Part of a trailer. Okay, cool. And he's doing an accent.
03:24:39
Speaker
This is an Apple TV Plus show, you're interested... Out there audience, their production values are off the chain. Oh, we didn't talk. There's another thing to talk about with the Emmys. The freaking Apple TV dominated. It's a domination.
03:24:52
Speaker
Destroyed. Yeah. Like there's some HBO and it's HBO and Apple TV and that's it. Netflix got nothing. What did Netflix get at all? Nobody wants this.
03:25:04
Speaker
Yeah. It's very little though. Yeah. One nominee for acting. Something like 290s for acting. It's crazy. Apple is like f freaking destroying and they're they're bleeding money on this. So it's good that they they're they're they're winning. they Apple's killing it. I hope they continue it because I know that it can be a loss leader and they can still make... That's what that's that's the word I should use for the late night shows.
03:25:25
Speaker
It's a loss leader. Apple should pick up Colbert. Although they had Jon Stewart and they bought that. so Yeah, why did they squash that? Wasn't there something like they didn't want... So Stewart wanted to say something about China and then, They're like, nope.
03:25:38
Speaker
And then they didn't fire him, but he left because he's like, if I can't say what I want to say, then I'm up from my understanding.
Apple TV+ at the Emmys: Impact and Strategy
03:25:44
Speaker
That's what I understand. Allegedly. Not sure. Exactly. That's fair. But it would be cool to have like a talk show. That's a good one though because Apple doesn't have a network, like a linear network. So that would make sense for them to have a, they should do a weekly show. They don't have to do monthly.
03:25:58
Speaker
Sorry, a daily show. It's too much. <unk> It's a lot. You don't need to do. i think maybe that's part of the problem with the format too. If you do like John like john Oliver with last week tonight, it's just easier to do. But anyway, anyway the point is they're loss leaders, right? They they lose money up front potentially, but they advertise everything else about their their whole overall package. It's Paramount or Apple or Netflix or or NBC, whatever it is. And that's part of it too.
03:26:25
Speaker
So that's kind of the advantage. That's what Apple is doing with Apple TV+. plus they They're adding value to customers for their products with Apple TV+, plus but they're losing money as a whole.
03:26:36
Speaker
Or a better example, Arcane. Arcane, great example. Cost a lot of money. They probably didn't make that money back, but they made the money back in the end because of League Legends. And the executive or one of the creatives at League Legends at Riot Games, they said that exactly. They're like, we lost money on the show, but doesn't matter because we didn't overall.
03:26:54
Speaker
And that's what matters. And that's the whole point. So you can claim with the Hollywood account or you know accounting that Colbert was losing money, but in reality. It's the same thing here with chief of war, probably very expensive show to make.
03:27:06
Speaker
It's like a period drama and it looks like it's probably shot on location. Like C was another Jason Moe drama, but it looks pretty cool. And hopefully it does well, but it looks good. But that's August 1st comes out. Apple TV plus anything else you've got.
03:27:19
Speaker
I got one more. Um, I closed my documents. I don't remember. I got two more actually. Okay. Okay. ah'll go I'll go next and if you find it again. I got The Bad Guys 2, August 1st.
03:27:33
Speaker
Oh, that was the other one I had. Animated movie. um Never watched the first one. meet Who's the main actor in that? I remember. Jason Bateman. Oh, it's Jason Bateman. Cool. At least I think so. Bad Guys 2 coming out on August 1st as well.
03:27:48
Speaker
That I've seen some advertisements for. I never saw the first one, but it kind of looked entertaining. I lied to you. It's Sam Rockwell. Oh, yeah. That's right. I distinctly remember his name as his voice in the trailer, too.
03:28:00
Speaker
Yeah. Didn't they do a bad guy's TV show? Did they? Yeah. Hmm. i don't know. Bad. I don't know. i'm not familiar with it that much. I gotta watch the first one.
03:28:12
Speaker
The first one does look entertaining. It's... Yeah, they did the...
03:28:22
Speaker
Yeah. The other one I've got here, you're looking that up there, i got the pickup. August 6th, Eddie Murphy and Pete Davidson drive an armored truck. Did you see this?
03:28:34
Speaker
Yes? Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't look that good. I gotta say. I'm not sure. That's the trailer. Again, don't want to judge the book by the trailer here, but hopefully it's you know funnier than... It's on Amazon Prime.
03:28:46
Speaker
August 6th that launch launches Amazon Prime Video. And lastly, Twisted Metal comes back for season two. Do you ever watch Twisted Metal? I did. I watched the entire first season. the premiere is on July 31st, apparently.
03:28:57
Speaker
So you thought it was okay. Did you ever play the game as well to get some context? but When I was a kid, yeah. I didn't play it when they... I played it too. like re-release them on PS5, like the PS1 versions, but I played the PS1 Twisted Metal games at my friend Ishtvan's house when we were kids and we would like drive around shoot each other.
03:29:15
Speaker
Nice. It's, but yeah, i never played, like, I know there was like the Twisted Metal Black, which I think was the PS3 version, never played that or anything. Yeah. it was like yeah I enjoyed it. old one Yeah, I really liked it when I was a kid, but I don't really remember much of it. I played, I think, one or two on PS1.
03:29:31
Speaker
David Jaffe games. Yeah. The guy that did God of War. But not the new not the latest God of Wars. No. The old God of Wars. Yeah. trying to say I don't really care for.
03:29:43
Speaker
Corey Barlog also worked on the old God of Wars too. It was a team, right? Yeah. Who's also working on the new God of War or worked on it. But yeah, okay.
03:29:53
Speaker
A God of War is a thing we haven't heard of in a while. I'm curious to see what how that's coming along for is Amazon, right? They're making that? Yes. I'm so curious. I feel like, yeah. I'm surprised we haven't heard anything about casting.
03:30:05
Speaker
But who knows? Maybe it's in development hell. Probably. Unknown. Unknown.
Closing Remarks: Podcast Wrap-Up
03:30:11
Speaker
All right. That's it for this incredibly long episode of Split Focus Film and TV Podcast. Anything else you want to add, Adrian, before we wrap this guy up?
03:30:18
Speaker
You said it was the worst podcast you've you've ever recorded. Yeah, this is like kind hurtful. Yeah, absolutely awful. So just to correct myself, they did The Bad Guys. Yeah.
03:30:30
Speaker
It wasn't a show. They had like two holiday specials on Netflix, but a different cast came back to play the characters. So it wasn't like Sam Rockwell and stuff like that.
03:30:42
Speaker
Yeah, it's crappy. It's crappy. So. Bad guys, the haunted. Yes, it's other people playing those characters. So that's that's all I needed to say.
03:30:53
Speaker
I needed to correct my little white self. I'm the least woke guy here, dude. White man, dude. No woke in here. Yeah. got it. You even got a beard going.
03:31:03
Speaker
I even got the beard going. and feel like that helps. You're podcasting. I'm podcasting, dude. I'm about to say something really racist. Right. No, don't do it. Like, like we should bring knots.
03:31:17
Speaker
no I have it open. I found the clip. Actually, i found the clip. Yeah. yeah I want to watch it. Should I watch it on air so you get my live reaction? Sure. Okay, great.
03:31:28
Speaker
Got failed! The exclamation point, you know?
03:31:34
Speaker
Is it, you having trouble with the internet? You having trouble with the connection?
03:31:40
Speaker
Are you frozen? Oh, no, you moved eyebrows. You're not frozen. Are you, are you really having trouble with this? No, I was watching it. Sorry. Well, I can't hear it, obviously. Oh, I see. You're just watching it. Right.
03:31:55
Speaker
right Yeah. You're playing it. Yeah. What you think of that? What did you think about that? Did you enjoy it? um I don't know, man. i don't know about this one.
03:32:06
Speaker
I don't know, man. That's a modern clip that happened a week ago or two weeks ago. Yeah, he's like, you know, like they're calling us Nazis, Nazis this, Nazis that. And like, we got to learn from the blacks is what he said.
03:32:18
Speaker
Jesus Christ. ah the the yeah We got to take it back by using it. They took back the N-word. At least he didn't just drop the N-bomb on air. Yeah, yeah, that was appreciated. So honestly, good for him.
03:32:30
Speaker
Yeah, he acknowledged that it was taken back. Arguably, I'm going to say he's woke for not saying the N-word on air. This guy's a woke guy. Don't do that. Don't, don't. It's like, I dare you. Don't I dare you to dare them to do it.
03:32:44
Speaker
Because they will do it. They'll start doing it. That's probably what's next, honestly. that I wouldn't put it past. And then he'd get rich. some of these individuals. people would pay him. Like that, like that woman that called the, like the little black kid, um the N-word for bullying her little white kid.
03:33:01
Speaker
then And then someone recorded her and then a bunch of people donated a shit ton of money. What? This happened like a few months ago. Like a legitimate thing. Great. woman made like hundreds of thousands of dollars for calling a small black child N-word at a park. She made money for doing it.
03:33:19
Speaker
She said it? Yeah. People tried to cancel her. And then she was uncanceled by- then people went online and donated a shit ton of money to her. Yeah, good.
03:33:31
Speaker
That's great. We're learning the right examples. Positive reinforcement, Adrian. It's fucking sick, dude. Positive reinforcing unkind behavior. Honestly, I would argue it's kind of woke to give money to a woman.
03:33:48
Speaker
Hmm.
03:33:51
Speaker
Okay. On that note, thank you for listening to episode 115 of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. My name is Simon Eadie, and it has been a pleasure to host you alongside my delightful co-host, Adrian Pinter.
03:34:05
Speaker
Please join us on August 12th for episode 116. Good evening to you, and a good luck. Goodbye, everybody. ah hope everyone has a good night.
03:34:18
Speaker
See you later. Goodbye. my God, Siri just turned on. And I said, see you later. Siri like turned on. She just thought I was talking to me. Apple AI, intelligence. Amazing.
03:34:29
Speaker
In the flesh. Goodbye. See ya.