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128. The Bridgertown
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Adrian & Simon review director Nia DaCosta’s 28 Years Later: The Bone Temple and director Bradley Cooper’s Is This Thing On?. Plus, they take a look at the recently announced Oscar nominations, the casting of Sons of Anarchy actor Ryan Hurst as Kratos in Amazon’s God of War TV series adaptation, and the new leadership over at Lucasfilm. Adrian also questions the validity of the sheer number of whacky scenarios occurring in HBO’s award winning drama, The Pitt; while Simon swiftly reviews director Joe Carnahan’s Netflix crime drama, The Rip.
This episode was recorded in Canada on January 22nd 2026. Episodes air every two weeks on Tuesdays! Catch us on February 10th for Episode 129.
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This episode...
Film Reviews: Bradley Cooper & Nia DaCosta
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We review director Bradley Cooper's film Is This Thing On? and director Nia DaCosta's film 28 Years Later, The Bone Temple.
Oscar Nominations & Industry News
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We take a look at the recently announced Oscar nominations, the casting of Sons of Anarchy actor Ryan Hurst as Kratos in Amazon's God of War TV series adaptation, and the new leadership over at
Realism in Medical Dramas
00:00:24
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Lucasfilm. And we question the validity of having every possible illness and a potential school shooting treated by Noah Wiley in a single 15 hour hospital shift. You work in the hospital in the ER specifically, please message into
Podcast Introduction
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the show. I need to know if this is actually what a regular day at a hospital ER is like. It doesn't seem legit. So much happens. With new episodes airing every two weeks on Tuesdays, this is Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. I'm Simon Eadie. And I'm Adrian Pinter.
00:00:54
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Welcome to episode 128.
Insights on 'The Last of Us'
00:00:57
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Episode 128
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Oh, Adrian, I have a little bit of ah a correction I want to make. Please, correct. a little correction, just jumping right into this. on ah On a podcast, we reviewed, well, a few podcasts. We reviewed The Last of Us TV series, The Last of Us Season 2. Yeah.
00:01:36
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Yeah. i I don't know where where I just remembered that I said this, but i I realized I have to correct the record here because I've been playing The Last of Us Part too And I remembered that I said something bad about the the flashbacks and how I didn't like them in the game.
00:01:50
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It's something along those lines. I wasn't saying I didn't like them. I was kind of saying I was like beating around. the i was trying to be nuanced with it. But the point of the matter is I want to make sure I make it clear because I've been playing The Last of Us Part II, the video game on PlayStation. is The flashbacks are are great. I enjoy them.
00:02:05
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I my argument was that they would be too gratuitous if you weren't playing them. I feel like that's now my argument. Maybe it wasn't then. But I just wanted to set the record straight that the flashbacks in the game are well utilized. That's all I wanted to say.
00:02:18
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Just jumping into this. Not related it to anything. I'm glad. I'm glad that you're making that. because the Last Us Part II is a masterpiece in every way.
Game vs. TV Adaptations
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And i feel like I threw shade at it, having not played it for five years at the point of when we talked about season two of the TV show on HBO, which is, yeah I still think, a pretty good h HBO TV show. I just don't think it could be even close. It can't. It's not even close to what the yeah it's it's ah it's great prestige of the yeah game is. Like, i don't know. it's It's interesting. because I just finished the the game again for the second time now. And I was you were thinking you're talking about how they kind of dumb it down and stuff like that. I was I was thinking about like, there is certain things they could have done that would have been better.
00:02:57
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They just they come. I feel like they didn't tackle it correctly. It feels like when you play the game, there's so much detail in little every little crevice. It seems like how the story is told is is told in such a way that is very, very well thought out in every capacity. It looks like Again, it's like the Charlie Day meme of him you know with the red wire on the board type of situation. and They must have really thought it through. And I feel like it feels like Neil Druckmann, the creator of The the Last of Us and the and a co-creator of the show.
00:03:26
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I feel like his time was split. I don't think he was. he had a split focus, arguably. And he he didn't. I'm getting right into this. Right, right. When he started even making the show, even the season one, I feel like season one is much more straightforward and in his time is split making intergalactic the heretic profit, a PlayStation game coming to PlayStation at some point. And so I feel like because he had used deep into development in this game and he was trying to build season two, which is more complex of a story and harder to tackle effectively as proven by the backlash of the video game when it launched because of the narrative. I feel like he had his work work cut out for them, cut out for him.
00:04:03
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And I feel like maybe there's too many chefs in the kitchen. And I, and I wondering now what season three will look like without Neil, because Neil Druckmann will not be working on the TV show for season three. But anyway, those are just my, my quick thoughts.
00:04:17
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Uh, having just finished the last of us part two, what a masterpiece, what a crazy good game. It's just the incredible, it's one of the best told narratives in any medium in terms of the way it's told. Um, it's ah it's amazing. I know you you know you agree. Yeah, I agree completely, man. I mean, you know this about me and, you know, I'm i'm a big, ah big stand for um The Last of Us and The Last of Us Part II. But like I'm I think The Last of Us Part II is one of the great pieces of media ever, you know, and I i love it yeah so dearly. And I mean, depending on the day, it's probably my favorite video game of all time and mood. You know, I feel like my top fives always just kind of it could be any one of them on any given day. um Yeah.
00:05:02
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You know, maybe if I'm in like a super jolly, happy mood. Maybe I'm not going to be put, you know Last of Us Part II as like my absolute favorite game of ah ever, you know, because it is so dark and grim and depressing and fucked up.
00:05:14
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um But it is still just so brilliantly told. And it's also really fun to play. Like, it's really fun to play. The gameplay is amazing. Yeah. But yeah, just like the narrative, is it's beautiful, man. I think it...
00:05:27
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There's very few... beautiful in a really depressing way. Yeah. and it like it's it's It's just this beautiful tale about how someone's dealing with grief.
00:05:39
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And i just don't think many... I can't think of too many forms of media that have had such an emotional impact on me that that game had on me that I still consistently think about.
00:05:53
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You know what i mean?
Analysis of 'The Pit'
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i think and and I think that really matters. um That could be why it's so divisive is because video games just don't tell stories like this. This is like an arthouse film in some way in in the form of a video game. And I feel like people aren't used to that in games. And so when they saw this narrative, they couldn't understand why.
00:06:14
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certain characters, what what happened to certain characters. They couldn't understand why they would, that would, they would, you know, hurt their favorite characters or do things to their characters or make their characters make certain decisions because they're not the decisions that they would have necessarily made. But like, that's not, that's not how that works. If you're watching a ah movie like Hamnet, you know, you know, or, or watching like, uh, is this thing on you kind of, you're you're not like invested in that way that you're going to like think, Oh, this is not what I would do. It's like, this is a linear,
00:06:42
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narrative that you kind of have that you're taking along for the ride while also participating in a very immersive way. and so i think I don't know, there's not that many games like that. that's kind of the i think the problem and that's where the divisiveness came from is that there's a lack of acceptance that you don't have control. Sorry.
00:06:59
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Kind of like life in a lot of ways, in a weird way. But yeah. Yeah, the reason I brought this up is specifically because of the, I just remember, the again, the flashbacks thing. I just, I thought about how on the show, it makes kind of sense. It does make sense where they put the flashbacks in some way. But there's an element of the last flashback of the game. And I'm like, hmm, it would have been interesting if they used it in the spot that it, in the show in which it was placed in the, in the game and what, what that would have meant. And I just, I just thought about that was like shower thoughts. I was in the shower thinking about it after it finished the game again for the second time, like two days ago. And I was thinking, yeah, could they have done it properly in the show? I don't know. But i I remember throwing shade at the, the saying the flashbacks are kind of the worst part of the game. I think something along those lines. And I feel like they're not because you get to play through them playing through it yourself makes them engaging and makes them interesting and makes them amazing.
00:07:53
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there's this i was trying to say at the time that it was kind of gratuitous because you're you're being made to live in these moments of the past that are very, very long. In a TV show, i don't know if that works, to be honest. If you were to run like some of the scenes, like the scene in the museum as an example, to be vague.
00:08:10
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um That scene, I'm like, that's a very long scene to have happen after a certain event. So I'm like, I don't know. It's it's an interesting thing for a TV show. I don't think there's any TV show that quite does that, spends this that much time on one flashback. So you couldn't really do it. Like, again, that's the problem with adapting it to to the HBO series. And that's kind of what Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann had mentioned is that they they They had to change it to ah adapt to to the medium, but I don't know that it was adapted perfectly. I think that they didn't take enough risks, and that's something I definitely think you believe. I don't think it's a bad show by any means and bad second season by any means. I just think you got to take more you could take more narrative risks i think they they they
00:08:51
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I don't know. They try too hard to pull you along. like they're They're really scared of what the audience might, how they might react. And it's like, you weren't you weren't worried when you when you made the game at all.
00:09:02
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At all. There was no handholding at all. and So it's interesting. It would have been interesting to see them kind of take a bit more of a risk. It would have maybe made it it a little bit more mature in that way.
00:09:14
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That's kind of my criticism, but I take what I said back about if I said anything untowards about the flashbacks, I think they are brilliant. um Yeah. In the, in the, in the video game, although they are slower and they're a change of pace. Maybe that's also part of the reason why I didn't connect as much at the time, just because I wasn't sure where the story was going maybe, but I don't know, but I feel like I did connect with them, but it had been five years too. So I'm not sure, but I want to correct the record. They are great and they're great in the game and i recommend the game quite a bit. And I recommend the show.
00:09:42
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But I recommend the game more. If you're if you're somebody who can play a video game, unlike Pedro Pascal, apparently, yeah I think you should you should dive into The Last of Us Part One and Part Two.
00:09:53
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If you i agree, I agree. I think, yeah, again, like I'm very harsh on the second season of the show. In reality, like it is it's good TV. Like it is still good TV.
00:10:05
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It's just again, i am incredibly biased against it because of how much I love the game. I think. there is one episode in season two that I genuinely believe is is phenomenal. And I just think the rest, especially the finale, ah is either just OK or like, in my opinion, the finale of season two, I did not like whatsoever. I just thought it was kind of choppy and and and um a few leaps in logic that just didn't fit for whatever reason. Um, but it's okay. Whatever time will pass. I'm going to watch season three. I'm not like writing off the show.
00:10:37
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Um, yeah, we'll see what they do. I just, I do. I'm not holding out hope that season three is going to be much better. I mean, it could be because I, this is a part of the game that I enjoy, like what they're adapting. So it's just a matter of like, are they willing to make,
00:10:56
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the characters, you know, as, as, as gray as, as they do in the video game. And again, like be willing to really dive deep into it. i don't know. i'm curious.
00:11:06
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We'll see that. I'm not worried about that part. You said the moral, moral morality being gray. I think they're going to nail that part. I think that that's what I think they're going to do. They're going to try to hopefully, um I think that they'll nail that. I think it's just the way the story is told and and some of the details in it. I feel like that they just taking the risks of, again, of the way it's told, not revealing things too early, things like that. I feel like there's just some things in there that I question. There's also elements that I criticized about season two while we reviewed it that I didn't i didn't like. I just i don't understand. There's certain like ways that the
00:11:44
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that Bella Ramsey was directed as an example. I don't think it was her fault at all. I just think that the choices that were made, it was like, this is not quite. and Are you really nailing the way the tone was for for Ellie as an example? And yeah, in the game, I'm not sure. But maybe. Yeah, I am. Maybe I'll be proved differently when the the show kind of wraps up.
00:12:02
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But yeah, I guess we'll see. But yeah, like I've i've never been a person that thinks that Bella Ramsey is um a bad choice. I think she's well cast personally. I just think, again, some of the creative choices with her character were.
00:12:15
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Not my favorite. and And I just again, yeah, like it just didn't fit. It didn't work. um But anyways, I'm glad that you replayed this the part too and and that You finally understand where I was coming from.
00:12:30
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A little bit more. Just a little bit more. This many more. but this This many more, okay? I think I've already oh always understood where you came from, though. And I think you kind of, you you you expressed your bias right in the top of this part of the podcast. I feel like you explained... I think like you understand that it's also kind of a good show. Like the thing is, is like my wife watched it and she has no connection and she loved the second season, but she loved it in like a dark dark way because there's some dark things that happen in it. She didn't like she loves and she's excited for season three. It's it interesting to see people who haven't played the game at all and see what their opinion is. I feel like that's interesting. Wait, weren't your parents?
00:13:07
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They never watched season two. i never watched it. Cause I'm curious what they think. Cause they obviously have no connection to the game. Me too. So I'm curious. That's really interesting. Cause this is another group of people that haven't played it. that Yeah. Anyway. Okay.
Review of 'Slow Horses'
00:13:21
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Well, cool. That was a, that was the beginning of a podcast. Let's get into, uh, let's get into what we've been watching Adrian. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, you're just you're throwing me for a loop every time.
00:13:33
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I never know what's coming. You never know. never know. Episode 129 could be completely different. Every two weeks on Tuesdays, Adrian. OK, so what have we've been watching this week, I'm just going to mainly talk about what we both watched together because I think there's a lot of a lot of information there and a lot of things to get through. So if you've got more to talk about.
00:13:52
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Um, you can go through that and then I'll, I'll kind of end this segment with just a few things just quickly, but what I watched, I'll kind of get into them later maybe, or. So a little sandwich, the meat is what we watched together. I'm the bread to start. You're the bread to finish.
00:14:07
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Yeah, the bun on the bottom, not as good, I feel like, typically, for especially especially so most sandwich buns or like hamburger buns, but it is what it is. i'll i'll you know I'll take the sacrifice.
00:14:20
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But, I mean, we could just be a couple of nice slices of sandwich bread. and you like rye Do you like sandwiches made with bread though? I do. Except for like a BLT or something. It's very infrequent that I would like do sandwich meat on like regular bread, like slices of bread. Like even a nice Italian loaf, you know? I don't i feel like I don't do that very often. Maybe you do.
00:14:43
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I mean, I will Maybe very crusty bread, I would be okay with it. Yeah, like like ah on occasion. I mean, obviously, like a grilled cheese and stuff like that. But no, ill i'll put I'll put cold cuts on bread. But I rarely have like sliced bread in my house, man. Like rarely we buy. Yeah, like we buy like Costco baguettes and then like, you know, we'll go to like Vincenzo's over in Waterloo area. It's like a ah grocery store and yeah you can buy like fresh buns and we'll like buy the cold cuts there and make subs out of that.
00:15:12
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But yeah, everyone's, I don't know. I'm not against putting stuff on a slice of bread. I just rarely have it in my home. You know, I rarely have it in my home. Yeah, me neither. I usually, I'm a big Costco croissant guy.
00:15:24
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Love the Costco croissants. I do love the Costco croissants. I put the croissants in the toaster oven, you know, for just 30 seconds to a minute. Yeah. Sliced, obviously, at first. And then you take them out, put some hazelnut spread on there. Oh, dude. We're not sponsored by any specific hazelnut spread brand. That's why I didn't say the brand. Oh, dude. Right.
00:15:43
Speaker
Okay. but yeah but But yeah, it's good. Really good. It's like kind of, it kind of, because they're butter croissants, they it kind of, It takes the butter and like crisps it. crisps it just ever so slightly. It's delicious.
00:15:56
Speaker
Yeah. dudo What's your opinion on on making sandwiches with croissants? Oh, amazing. I did that for many, many months, like last year. We were doing sandwiches. We did like, did like turkey, Cajun turkey meat.
00:16:11
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And we just like made croissants with like pickles and nice pickles, cheese like provolone cheese and some, it was really good. Very tasty. I'm not much of a croissant sandwich guy. i don't know. There's something about it it. I just... Like whenever I have a sandwich, like croissant sandwich, right? And there's like the meat and stuff. I'll be eating it. I'm like, honestly, i kind of wish I was just eating this k croissant on its own.
00:16:33
Speaker
Oh, that's weird. I don't know. I just love like a nice croissant. Maybe you just haven't had enough of them. Maybe. Maybe. It's possible, dude. If get big thing of Costco k croissants, you don't feel like you're wasting the k croissants. You know what i mean? Because croissants are really good on their own. Maybe that's what your kind of your feeling is from. Maybe got to try that. I feel like the croissant, it takes the mayonnaise and it really seeps into it.
00:16:54
Speaker
And that's what's delicious, especially if it's sitting for a little bit of time before you eat it. Anyway. Good shit. This is not what we've been watching. We haven't been croissants. Good shit, though. That's good stuff. Yeah, I've been watching a lot of Food Network. No, I'm just kidding. i haven't been watching Food Network. I have been watching um a lot of food YouTube, though, as per usual. But anyways, not important.
00:17:15
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Simon, what I've been watching are two things that I actually brought up last episode, but I've watched more of it now. And I finished season one. Of the hit Apple TV Plus series. Sorry, Apple TV series. The boss isn't there anymore, Simon. They got rid of the boss. Slow horses.
00:17:35
Speaker
I finished the first season of Slow Horses. And I watched the first episode of season two of Slow Horses. And let me tell you. This show's a romp. I like it a lot. I'm enjoying this.
00:17:47
Speaker
I feel like this is a really cool, just like, it's a good vibe. It's easy. It's you've, you've talked about this in the past, how it's like, it's, it's like popcorn TV, but it's still like high quality popcorn TV where you're very intelligently written popcorn tv and incredibly well acted. And,
00:18:05
Speaker
Um, I, I can't remember if you told this to me directly or if we talked about it on the podcast, but I talked about how, know, the main character of the show is this guy named, um, River Cartwright.
00:18:16
Speaker
who like messes up this big job and like this, the simulation in this first episode and gets um thrown into a place called the Slough House, where all these like MI5 agents that screwed up at some point or another on their job or rubbed people the wrong way were put in this place called Slough House. And it's run by this guy named Jackson Lamb, who's played by um Gary Oldman.
00:18:39
Speaker
And I was saying like, yeah, River Cartwright's the main character. And then you mentioned how like the show, like as it progresses, it becomes more of an ensemble cast and very much so like by episode, I would say three of the first season. You start getting more of a feel of all the, you know, additional characters that are around. And by the end of the first season, it's like it's a whole group effort of them trying to, you know, solve this crazy thing that's that's happening. Yeah.
00:19:05
Speaker
And I find this show just like, ah it's really fun to watch. And it's just, I think they figured out how all the characters personalities were and how they would react to one another in these situations. And the actors just really go all in. And and like, I believe each of these actors are those people, you know, it, it, it,
00:19:26
Speaker
every once in a while you'll watch something and you'll be like, okay, that person's acting or it doesn't, you know, hit the spot. But it's like this show just perfectly in encapsulates each of these characters and who they are and how they'll, you know, ah in in ah interact with one another.
00:19:43
Speaker
And there's a lot of, you know, just kind of um animosity towards one another, but also this like very team mentality because they're all in the same boat together in this shit storm. And again, as the first season progresses, I don't really want to spoil because I kind of went into this show blind and what the actual story beats are. It gets fucking crazy pretty quickly and very like dark and brutal. Yet somehow, even though it's dealing with all these very...
00:20:11
Speaker
bad things these dark themes there's still this like little ray of sunshine throughout it where you're like i'm having a good time and i'm enjoying this this isn't stressing me out i'm not anxious even though they're like on a time clock or whatever and um god damn it's fun and you know hopping right into season two um after finishing season one there's like a noticeable time jump probably like i don't know six months or something maybe a little bit more And now that you know these characters and you know that much time has passed, you're kind of thrown into where they are at this point in their lives. And it's just an immediate kind of um understanding, I guess, for lack of a better term, of like,
00:20:55
Speaker
of how the characters are um dealing with the situations they are now in. And again, it's almost like a lighter tone because now I know these characters. Now they're closer with one another. Now they're willing to make you know more jokes and be a little bit more friendly to one another. And it just kind of It just works. It just really works. And I was just really in the mood for something like this, where it wasn't, you know, necessarily too dark or too gritty.
00:21:21
Speaker
And there was this like nice amount of fun in it. Um, And yeah, man, fucking slaps. The show slaps. Apple TV just kills it, man. Everything I've watched on Apple TV, I've pretty much liked, except for Platonic, the season one of Platonic, which I just, don't know.
00:21:38
Speaker
i don't know, man. That's fair. That's fair. but yeah it's It's cool. it's The way you described it here, I didn't really think about it until you kind of said it this way is this kind of in a way it's kind of a buddy comedy in the weird, like a buddy cop comedy and cause they are like agents. So it kind of works cause they keep pairing these really wacky personalities together and they all kind of mesh together and, or like repel each other in various ways.
00:22:01
Speaker
There's like a, the team bonding is really good. As you mentioned, yeah, it's a cool way to look at it. I never really thought of it cause it is a comedy. I feel like it's a dramedy in a large way. Um, and it's, it's cool.
00:22:11
Speaker
But, uh, Yeah, we talked about it in the theater as well as talking about it on episode 127 of Split Focus. And I and I realized I almost I kind of spoiled something for you a little bit. You did. i it's okay I completely am sorry about that because I don't like doing that. I just didn't know. I couldn't remember how far you had gotten. I knew what episode you on, but I didn't realize where the thing I spoiled was in the episodes. And like I felt so bad when I got in my car. I'm like, I'm such a dick. I didn't mean to do that. It's OK, man. It's OK. But don't worry about It it wasn't necessarily a big sport because where that specific character ends up, it's still like a surprise by the end of season one. You're like, oh, like this is happening yeah interesting. So there is like a dance we do when we describe things in general on this podcast, like the way we describe it like you. I
Film Reviews & Preferences
00:22:57
Speaker
wasn't spoiling it because you had already mentioned something that the event that had happened.
00:23:01
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And then I kind of like I went further than I should have in the way I spoke about that character. i was stupid. anyway I'm sorry. Hey, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it was still a surprise. It was still fun to to experience. So, yeah, it's cool. It's good. Yeah, it's crazy. that You're a lucky guy. It's always i always think when someone's watching a show for the first time, I'm like, oh, man, to go back and watch this again. some Something like Avengers Endgame in theaters. You know what i mean? You're like, oh, wow, it's such a fun thing to experience. I don't know. There's something very chill. I distinctly remember. i actually I've eaten a lot of ah a toaster oven croissants with Nutella.
00:23:39
Speaker
in those while watching slow horses just coincidentally because i would just like put on an episode before bed kind of thing and it's like a little you know 10 p.m snack before before sleepy time anyway 10 p.m snack of a croissant and you tell some of the heaviest stuff how are you so lean you're such a lean mean machine guess i work out i don't know thanks yeah or or not thanks look you man work it out no no don no No, you're not. um But OK. Well, yeah. All right. Anything else you watched? You're excited. Yeah. So I continued watching more of The Pit. HBO's The Pit. I'm like 10 episodes in now, the first season. Nice.
00:24:21
Speaker
And. Hmm. How do I want to word this? I've been kind of talking about this with my fiance because she didn't want to watch it anymore. Yeah. She just like she doesn't like the hospital setting. And this show is Arguably, like it's very sad, but to a point where it's almost comical when you're really just like watching it and paying attention to it. And what I mean by that is... so cause i was ah i'm I'm watching the show again. I'm 10 episodes in. I'm like, how is this show so freaking popular? i i genuinely don't get it. It's a medical drama. Medical dramas, I guess, just in general are popular, right?
00:24:58
Speaker
But there is just... So the the the setup of the show, of The Pit, is you're following this like essentially this emergency room over the course, I think, of 13 hours as the first season. And every episode is hour by hour, right?
00:25:12
Speaker
Yes. And it's a cool setup. It reminds me of you know you know the old 24 show with Kiefer Sutherland, just again in a totally different you know setting and premise. Yeah. And, you know, you're you're sitting there and, you know, all these people are coming in. There's a big cast of characters because, again, like every hour, maybe there's someone new there or over the course of like four hours is the same character. They're dealing with like an operation or whatever else.
00:25:39
Speaker
I'm like, I'm sitting there. I'm like, the writing in the show is. Presumably pretty good to to a certain degree. um Presumably. Because I don't understand 56% of it because they're all talking in medical terms. So I imagine i imagine it's accurate.
00:25:54
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I imagine because everyone says online like it's very accurate like medically. But then there are these like like character moments where these, you know, the the nurses or the doctors or the interns are all talking with one another or are having conversations with one another.
00:26:09
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And it's like there's one character in particular, and it's like we're 10 hours into this shift, and I know everything about this character, like their entire life story.
00:26:20
Speaker
This one character's life story, their past, how they got into the position they're in, um you know, why they why they have a an ankle monitor on their leg. um like a house arrest monitor on their leg that they used to be a drug at addict, yada, yada, yada.
00:26:36
Speaker
I'm sitting there and like, when you're watching a season of television, it's like, okay, cool. I'm learning about this character over days or years. And like this character has overshared their entire life story over the course of eight hours or nine hours in real time when they have worked at this hospital for years. and And you're like, and as soon as like my brain kind of clicked in on that, it became comedic because she's talking about this like traumatic event that happened to her. I'm like, why the fuck are you talking about this right now?
00:27:10
Speaker
Why have you told everyone everything about you in one day? Is this a new person to the hospital? she's is She's worked there at the hospital for many years, for many years.
00:27:21
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so So there's like these little moments where I'm like, it's kind of confusing. Yeah. And again, like, I guess, but I guess the the premise is like, okay, maybe someone new in the hospital is learning about her from that perspective, or she's talking to a patient or whatever else. So there's like this, i don't know, there's just this level of oversharing. And i think in the eighth or ninth episode episode, she's like talking to someone and she's like, listen, I know I'm an overshare.
00:27:46
Speaker
and And she says that like verbatim. I'm like, you fucking think you think I know everything about you as the viewer. and it's like But you didn't overshare before the audience was watching.
00:27:58
Speaker
Yeah, I guess. Which is the problem, I guess. Yeah. That's I mean is the plot hole part. Yeah. It's very small. Like, it's not really a hole. It's like a kind of a crack in the plot, I guess. Exactly.
00:28:09
Speaker
So it was just a little odd because of that. Because then I started paying attention to it. And what I mean about, like, paying attention to the show is so much fucking happens in the show over the course of, I guess, what am I on, hour 10.
00:28:25
Speaker
So much. It's crazy. And this show is almost made for the ADHD, like TikTok brain in a weird way, because there's always something fucking nuts happening at like at any given time, like six different things. And they're constantly pop into other like operation rooms and like different medical emergencies. And you're like, okay, wow, that's crazy. Wow, that's crazy. And when I say they deal with almost every social issue imaginable,
00:28:52
Speaker
They deal with that like fucking almost every social issue. imagine Not actually, but they deal with so many social issues. It's genuinely bananas. I'm sorry. one One second, Simon. Okay.
00:29:05
Speaker
Adrian is gone now. He's decided to take a presumably a work call after hours, no less. What a what a dedicated employee.
00:29:16
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? because we were, of course, would record this podcast. after hours, like after 5 p.m. So it's impressive. But but yeah, he's ah he's doing it. He's taking that work call and I'm waiting patiently.
00:29:31
Speaker
So I guess i guess I'll ah bid you adieu for the next, what is it, two seconds for the ticking clock? Adieu.
00:29:45
Speaker
Okay, sorry about that, Simon. just had a um one of my clients call me they were looking for assistance so just wanted to help them out real quick of course i was just talking to the audience about how you were doing this after hours and you're such a dedicated employee hey man when i'm helping a you know a customer i sign them up on on on my service i'm there after hours anytime they can call me you know Yeah, reliable. I appreciate that. Good old reliable. So I think I was talking about how in the pit there, essentially it deals with, you know, like every issue imaginable.
00:30:19
Speaker
And it's, you know, if you're watching like a series, like a Grey's Anatomy, as an example, which deals with honestly less issues than the pit does. But the Grey's Anatomy takes over the crime yeah it takes takes place over the course of like months as opposed to 10 hours. So you know in the pit, you know you're dealing, I guess, very minor spoilers for the pit because I'm going just mention random occurrences that happen. and I'm going to touch on like i don't know a few, ah but there is way more than what I'm going to list off. There's, you know, obviously people dying, right? You know, ah a kid dying from a drug o to overdose, a kid dying from drowning. Um, there's a parent dying from like a stroke. There's, um,
00:31:05
Speaker
ah a drug overdose where the person survives. There's a homeless people that show up there's, or unhoused people, as they call it in the show, there's a trans person that shows up that's ah misgendered and they adjusted. There's a racist ah guy that's, ah you know, yelling at the people that assaults. ah There's a, there's a person that gets, that works at the hospital that gets assaulted. There's um rats in the hospital. There's that, that just show up in the hospital because they were on a homeless guy's body. um There's a,
00:31:35
Speaker
yeah Dude. Okay. i just listed off nine things. That's not even a fraction of all of the, all of the issues that this hospital deals with. And I'm just talking like, those are like, I guess some of those are more social issues. Um, and then some are like, you know actual issues that people deal with. And I'm like sitting there, I'm like so much fucking shit happens in the show so much.
00:31:58
Speaker
I'm like, why is this popular? So I was like sitting there. I'm like, because I'm watching it. I'm having a good time. I'm kind of viewing this as a comedy in a weird way now because it's like so obviously trying to hit so many nails and hit hit you in your feels at so many times. that I'm like, I think this show is popular because one way or another, since they're you know dealing with so many issues, there is at least one thing that when you watch the show, you relate to you have maybe, and that is, that's my assumption. It's like, yeah, maybe you lost like a loved one and you were there for them when they, when they passed away in the hospital. Maybe, you know, someone that died from a drug overdose. Maybe you have a trans friend that has been misgendered. Maybe, you know, someone that's become homeless or you have dealt with the homeless people. And it's just,
00:32:50
Speaker
chances are you, you've maybe even dealt with multiple of the issues that have arisen in this show, or you yourself have been in a hospital situation. And it's just, I think the the reason the show is so popular is because it is so relatable. And the reason I also question if the writing is good,
00:33:09
Speaker
Because again, there are these emotional moments where I'm sure people cry to, but I'm sitting here now looking at it from like this analytical perspective. I'm like, is this actually like well-written emotional beats or is this just a very sad situation?
00:33:25
Speaker
That is going to arguably be emotional regardless. It's when a kid dies, it's fucking sad. Obviously, that's an awful thing. So it's like, yeah is it actually sad because the writing is good or is it sad because a kid just fucking died on screen and you see parents crying over their child's dead body?
00:33:44
Speaker
You know what I mean? And it's like, now questioning They just pick the most extreme scenario and they're like, cry. Are you ready to cry? Yeah. Exactly. And so like, I'm sitting here fucking feeling like a piece of shit because like, you know, the scenes are happening where it's like super depressing. And I'm, I'm sitting here almost laughing because I'm like, Oh my God, so much has happened over the course of these like eight, nine hours. And it's like, come on, dude. Like how, how much shit can these people deal with? It's just one shift. Yeah. And again, I've never worked in the healthcare industry. If this is actually what working in an emergency room is like, I do not envy anyone that works in that situation ever, ever. I feel like that's arguably you're insane for going into that industry. You're doing the Lord's work. Good on you. But God damn it.
00:34:37
Speaker
Is this show just fucking absurd in so many ways. There are quite a few moments of levity as well. And then again, there's this like internal drama with, you know, some of the people that work there. But again, it's just everything is so escalated and quick.
00:34:54
Speaker
Like, you know, there's like an intern that's there that's like questioning one of the people that have been there for a while that they're that they're possibly stealing drugs or something from from the hospital. It's like, dude, you've been here for four hours.
00:35:07
Speaker
Why are you even concerned about this? Aren't you here to learn? Like, it's just it's it's absurd, man. It's absurd. And I I'm missing something. I'm missing something because this show has won an Emmy for being the, you know, be for best drama series. That's what i won for. You know, like that's going to go in the Golden Globe.
00:35:28
Speaker
It's going to go as well. And it's just like I got it over severance. Yeah. Which is absurd, dude. Over and or I'm just kidding. Yeah. right and or Why not? Why are you kidding? I was kidding because all I do is bring up and or. But no, I'm not kidding because Andrew is the best TV show of 2025. Anyways, but yeah, it's just it's just wild, man. And again, I'm like sitting here.
00:35:52
Speaker
Maybe I'm not missing something. Maybe my analysis of the show is correct. And I'm just looking at it from too an analytical of an angle to, you know, just like get get into my feels and enjoy it from that perspective. But God, man, I don't want to fucking cry to kids dying. Yeah. you know so maybe it's like this like defensive mechanism my brain's putting on where i'm like oh this is just fucking crazy that so much shit has happened um and again man i just i listed off like fucking what 12 things there that's that's not even a third of what they have dealt with over the course of nine hours not even a third i'm not even joking dude it's crazy yeah um
00:36:33
Speaker
Anyways, I know I kind of ran it there. I feel like I went off the rails a little bit because I've been very passionate about this in like a weird way. And I don't really have too many people to talk about it with. um Yeah. How many episodes you have left?
00:36:47
Speaker
I think there's 13 episodes in season one. i think 13 in total.
00:36:54
Speaker
13 hours is a long shift. Damn. It's a long ass shift, dude. It's a long ass shift. Yeah. And again, yeah, it's it's just it's fucking nuts, dude. Here, let me let me just triple check. I'm going give you the correct thing because I am on episode 10. I think I'm like partway through episode 10. I was watching it while you were almost done. Yeah.
00:37:12
Speaker
Um, almost it's almost it. Oh, shit. I lied to you. There's 15 hours. There's 15 episodes in that first. Wow. That's a lot of hours. So it's it's Noah Wiley's character's whole shift. Is that the idea? yes Yeah, it is. But there hasn't been like a shift. Like this, this show starts off with a shift change. Yeah.
00:37:31
Speaker
And none of the cast has left their shift yet. So i'm like, is everyone just working 15 fucking hours today? Is that normal to have in the healthcare care industry to work 15 hour shifts in a hospital? right I would assume so. Maybe on a day like today where everything is happening, everything ever happened, happened. yeah um So maybe, but like, again, like they're like, we're almost in, in episode 10, I think it was, or maybe it was and at the near the ah end of episode nine. They talked about like, all right, we're almost nearing the end of the shift. Apparently not. You guys got like fucking six more hours to go.
00:38:03
Speaker
Interesting. anyway Maybe they were nearing the end of it and then they had got stuck there. but No, you would know that by now, by the 10th hour. i don't know. Maybe they, maybe they have 12 hour shift and then on hour 12, something crazy is going to happen.
00:38:17
Speaker
you can't leave. Yeah. They can't leave. But again, it does do some cool things though, in the sense of like, it'll set something up. Like, but again, it's, it's the absurdity to it. Like it's, it'll set up this, like it'll plant a seed in like one episode where it's like, Oh, like an ambulance was stolen, which is an actual thing that happens. i like, what the fuck? someone ambulance Yeah. Anyways, that's ah number 13. Ambulance gets stolen. I'm like, oh man, who stole the ambulance? And then over the course of like one or two episodes, there's like, oh there's like a pursuit of the ambulance. And then eventually um the people in the ambulance like get into a car accident and then are brought to the hospital. And you're like, oh, okay. So it's like, it sets up these little things where it's like, okay, we're going to go back to this. We're going to go back to this. And they set up like this, this, um,
00:39:04
Speaker
This is in the first episode, I'm pretty sure. Again, is number 14. Again, we're not I'm not even hitting the the third mark yet, okay? But there's a kid that, um like, his mom brings him in. This is either in an episode one or two. His mom brings him into the hospital, and she, like, pretends that she's sick. And then she's like, I'm actually not sick. I found a note in my son's.
00:39:20
Speaker
bag and it has like a like a hit list of these girls that are in his class. And I'm worried that he might do something. And they're like, we got to talk to this kid and make sure he's OK. And then the kid runs off. And then and over the course of like, you know, the last eight episodes, they're like, what's going on with the kid? And the one doctor is like the one doctor who's an overshare. It's like, we got to call this in. And then Noah Wiley's character is like, no, we're not going to call the cops and ruin this kid's life over a thought crime. Yada, yada, yada. And it's like brought back multiple times. And i think we're finally you know, hitting that point of like the the explosion of of what might come from that scenario.
00:39:52
Speaker
But again, it's like, dude, wait, is the kid still in the hospital? No, he left. He ran out of the hospital. Okay. So they're just thinking about it for. Yeah. Multiple hours.
00:40:03
Speaker
Right. Yeah. They keep on talking about it. they Keep on bringing it up because the mom's still there. Hmm. For a thing that she's not even sick about. Anyways. So when did you look for her kid?
00:40:14
Speaker
I don't get it. I don't know. they keep She keeps on calling. They're like, did you get, did you reach your son? And she's like, no. And then they go up ah back to her like two hours later, which is two episodes later. And like, did you reach your son? It's like, no, he's not answering my calls.
00:40:26
Speaker
and huh hours are going by you would think you'd run out really scared for your son yeah if you're not sick i don't know i don't know i've seen it so can't say don't know your your your wife has watched it i know that yeah i'll talk to her about it see what you did she like it she thought it was as wacky she did like it enough she did say though think she said like there's no way it should have beaten severance season two god no was that Even Pluribus. I thought Pluribus was pretty great. I don't know, but I don't know. I haven't seen it, so how would I know?
00:40:59
Speaker
How would I know? don't know. I don't know, dont know man. What else have you been watching? me you That's really it, dude. Do you have more to say about the pit? Okay. No, no. Again, I kind of said all my thoughts on the pit. i'm gonna like But it's funny. you know I'm talking smack about it, but I'm still watching it. I'm still going to keep watching it.
00:41:16
Speaker
Okay. That's cool. Anyways. so That's really all I watched. All right, well, let's move on now to the thing things we both saw in theaters
Bradley Cooper's Film: Themes & Realism
00:41:26
Speaker
together. We watched two movies in theaters we saw. Is this thing on? And we saw 28 years later, Bone Temple, a bone temple, the bone temple. I'm pretty sure that the in it, i'll give you a bone temple temple.
00:41:40
Speaker
Hmm. Clever. Okay, so what do you want to talk about first? Is this thing on? Yeah, let's talk about is this thing on because we watched that first. Okay, sounds good. Yeah, we'll watch that first.
00:41:52
Speaker
All right. Bradley Cooper's single feature. I suppose. Yeah. Is this thing on? um I love this movie. I thought it was amazing. I think this my favorite movie of 2025, personally. i didn't We didn't see it in 2025, but we saw it, obviously, in 2026 because that's when it came to theaters here. but But I really, really think it's great. And I think that the best thing about it is it's strange. It's more of a drama than it is a comedy, which is kind of the vibe I kind of got from it before I went in personally anyway. Yeah.
00:42:26
Speaker
just based on the the buzz around it before we got to see it in theaters. But I just feel like it's, to be honest, the most realistic telling of a love story ah in that what I believe love to be is it's an action.
00:42:40
Speaker
ah It's kind of a, it's a sacrifice more so that than something you fall into. And I feel like this, it shows kind of how these two characters are kind of, kind of falling, you know, out of love, I suppose, or like they're, they're drawing and drawing apart. Yeah.
00:42:56
Speaker
in Will Arnett and Laura Dern's character. But essentially, the movie is about Will Arnett's character. ah is ah He starts doing stand-up comedy after his wife asks for a divorce.
00:43:07
Speaker
ah he He doesn't have the money to get into a a bar, and it it turns out to be a comedy club. He's just trying to go there to to to get a drink, and he signs up for...
00:43:19
Speaker
open mic to just basically get ah get into the bar without paying a cover because he didn't have enough money on his person at the time. So he enter enters the bar and his name gets called up. He goes and does the stand-up comedy and he falls in love in love with it essentially. But it's mainly a story about the relationship between him and his wife, arguably. And it's just, I feel like the telling of that aspect of the movie is like, I don't know, it's very heartfelt. It's very realistically told. The way it's shot is very chaotic. It feels very grounded in every capacity, the way the characters interact with each other. There's literally, there's characters in it that are literally
00:43:57
Speaker
married in real life. There's a scene in which like they all wake up in the morning and they're like kind of singing. And I was thinking like, this is incredibly grounded. It's there's something very human about this film in like in every capacity. And it's very impressive from that angle. But Bradley Cooper, the director and writer alongside Will Arnett and his writing partner, um,
00:44:19
Speaker
I think that they all did a great job writing it. It feels very real. And I think think Will Arnett and Laura Dern were snubbed at the Oscars. We'll talk about that in a second when we get into the stories of the week. But I feel like they were just snubbed for most award shows. I don't know what happened there with the with the acting awards. I feel like it was...
00:44:39
Speaker
There's a grand mistake, in my opinion, in that regard. But yeah, it's funny at times, but I feel like it's more of a drama. And I just feel like they nailed nailed the tone and they nailed the overall film and the acting is amazing. And they and I love it. Anyway, I'm big fan.
00:44:54
Speaker
Thoughts? Those are more than just high level thoughts. I gave you all my thoughts almost. But anyway. Yeah, I'm definitely not as high on it as you. um Okay. i I did really like the movie. I thought it was quite great. And as you mentioned, it is very grounded.
00:45:09
Speaker
i i love Will Arnett as an actor. I think he plays the sad guy so incredibly well while still having such amazing comedic chops. Again, like one of my favorite shows of all time, BoJack Horseman, know, he – he he's the voice of Bojack in that. He's like a very depressed person. And it's just, he, he has this voice that just like, like reverberates sadness. You know, like you can, you can hear the sadness in his voice, even when he's talking, like trying to be all positive. And it just, I think he is just a phenomenal actor. And I do agree with you, like him and Laura Dern's relationship and chemistry in the movie is, is awesome. Yeah.
00:45:53
Speaker
um And yeah, like it it is ultimately a love story in a way that, But, you know, angled from the perspective of a divorce um happening, you know, like a family falling apart.
00:46:08
Speaker
And I mean, I made this joke when when we finished the movie because we both watch like our our wives were with us. I'm like, probably not the the best movie to watch right after getting married. But hey, you know, I feel like it's funny because I disagree with you. I think it is the best movie to watch right after getting married.
00:46:24
Speaker
Mm hmm. and con yeah i Yeah. I mean, I appreciate your your perspective in a way. yeah I guess there is like this level of maturity to it. um Yeah. and And, you know, kind of understanding what what might be to come, which is that's kind of what I'm referring to. It's like, i don I don't want to think about ever falling in love with my wife. I don't think I ever will. um But again, I feel like everyone says that. And it's just that this movie isn't necessarily about falling out of love. It's just about becoming maybe like too comfortable or bored or disappointed or sad. And it's just how that impacts your relationship. um
00:47:03
Speaker
And again, it is just it like, it it is very grounded and and believable. And there is like the way it's shot is super, I don't know. it It makes you feel like, Very immersed in the movie. There's this there's this level of realism and the the character conversations where it's like, you know, you see people talking like that when you're at a bar and everything.
Trilogy Comparisons & Box Office Challenges
00:47:22
Speaker
Funnily enough, like my wife, she liked the movie, but she literally said like I was she that she started feeling kind of almost motion sick watching it because like there's never a single moment in the movie where the camera is steady.
00:47:35
Speaker
It's always constantly shaking slightly and everything like that. um And she's like, she she she said that once she was made aware of that, she couldn't like unsee it. And like by the end, she was like, I can't like it was tough to like watch because it's the camera's constantly moving. She is very prone to motion sickness, though, to be fair.
00:47:52
Speaker
um But yeah, I don't know. I like that sort of. camera work, there is this like raw nature to it, which again, makes you feel more a part of the, um, part of the action. So to say the, you know, cause I watched the first trailer that came out. I can't remember if I watched any more of them and going into it. I don't know why I expected it to be more about, you know, Will Arnett's character, you know, finding his love of comedy and, and really, you know, his journey through becoming a comedian, I guess. And,
00:48:27
Speaker
it's kind of about that, but that's not really the point of the movie at all. And they don't spend as much time on that than I would assume. It is really a ah movie about relationships and, and family.
00:48:39
Speaker
um And again, I think, I think it is done very well. There was just something, I don't know. I i don't want to say missing. Cause that's not fair. Cause I can't tell you what was missing. It's just, I was expecting to like it more um than I did. I still really liked it. I still really did, but it wasn't like a movie where I'm like, Oh, i got to watch this again.
00:49:00
Speaker
or um Oh, I'm like thinking about this since um compared to like another movie that we we actually watched shortly thereafter um or that I watched fucking last year.
00:49:11
Speaker
It has like so been ingrained in my brain. Um,
00:49:16
Speaker
Yeah, like, i don't know. Again, I've only seen like Bradley Cooper. He's, I think, a great director. Again, I've i've only seen this movie and and the Star is Born, like a Star is Born remake. And for me, I think a Star is Born is is the better film of the two that I've watched.
00:49:30
Speaker
um So, yeah, again, i I did really like it. i I don't want to sound negative. I feel like I'm trying to be a little bit more like balanced, but I feel like I might be coming off a little bit more negative than I want to. No, it's all good.
00:49:41
Speaker
It's cool. Yeah. It's sweet. Yeah, it's cool. I don't know. for me this was like a it's just for For me, this is a realistic love story. Whereas, again, we see in rom-coms like Notting Hill or something, you know you you just see a lot of unrealistic. they're just a lot of It's fun. They feel good. But this is not as as feel good. It shows the messiness of of relationships, especially long-term ones, and and how much work you really got to put into them to to make them work. And it's just, there's something about it is like, I just felt like these characters are real and there is baggage there. And there's lots of clearly like long-term emotions that have pent up. There's a lot of vulnerability in the actors and a lot of vulnerability, even just the writing. It just feels, it's just, again, it's i I'm so impressed with that aspect of it. I don't know if I've ever seen anything quite,
00:50:30
Speaker
as much of a dissection in terms of a raw dissection of a relationship in this way. And you're right. It's not very standup comedy based. There's an element of like, it's the, that moment in the, in the trailer, the first trailer and where Will Arnett is, is sending, standing in the subway station. And he's like,
00:50:48
Speaker
He's like, i'm going to be okay. It's like that. That was the thing that got me invested in the film in the first place. That's what really I love the idea of the stand up comedy and how hard it is to get into and all that aspect. Like I love the movie. Sorry, the the TV show. I really liked it with Pete Holmes um crashing where he's crashing on people's couches as he's just trying to become a stand up comic. But it's just so hard.
00:51:10
Speaker
So like that, that is really cool too. But I think the relationship angle of it and Willard net's performance again in that moment where his voice cracks and say, I'll be okay. I just like, that's the representation of, of this film for me. It's like, he's not going to be okay. And you can tell right from the trailer and right from that moment in the film. And you're like, okay,
00:51:27
Speaker
This is going to be where I'm in for a little bit of a kind of a heart wrenching experience in some way. and And you're like, you're rooting for these characters to potentially have a happy ending, but this is not life. Isn't a life. Isn't work that way. Typically there's no like happily ever after necessarily exactly as it's told it's more nuanced than that. And I i think that's what I appreciate most about it, but yeah.
00:51:49
Speaker
Yeah, i I get where you're coming from there. And yeah, I don't think you're you're wrong. um Because yeah, again, it like it tries to deal with this like more nuanced nature. I just think it didn't hit as many emotional beats that I was assuming it would.
00:52:04
Speaker
It got me. Yeah. It did for me. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. Something about maybe the way I was when I went in there, my emotional state maybe too. Yeah. i think I think that has a lot to do with like how people react to movies. I mean, I think about going into La La Land, and I think I was in the perfect headspace to watch that movie to be emotionally broken by the end of it. And I like i think about that movie so fondly, and I love it.
00:52:27
Speaker
But like yeah so compared to a very similar movie, like in in regards to theme, like the theme of divorce and like a relationship falling apart, I think of a marriage story. with Adam driver and Scarlett Johansson, where like watching that movie again, like just destroyed me at multiple points. And like it, that also felt incredibly realistic and very human.
00:52:47
Speaker
And I just think it nailed those emotional beats, at least from memory. It's been many years since I watched that movie better than this. Um, it's very different though. that The, the, the the I feel like the weight that what they're going for is, i don't want to spoil either movie, but I feel like what Noah Baumbach is trying to do also stars Laura Dern. But yeah what he's trying to do, I feel like it's kind of in some ways flip side. They're kind of different ways to look at it.
00:53:17
Speaker
um Yeah. Yeah, that's actually a very fair point. Because yeah, it's it's the it's a similar situation from, like I guess, a different perspective. Yeah. Um, so yeah, it is interesting.
00:53:30
Speaker
But, um, yeah, yeah. Again, I still really like this movie. I, again, I want, I want to be crystal clear. ah still very much like this movie. Um, it's just, so good it's just not my favorite.
00:53:41
Speaker
Um, that's fair. I don't even know what my favorites. And it Academy's favorite either, apparently. Yeah. There's a lot of weird things with the Oscar nominations. We'll talk about that. There's a lot of weird things that unrelated to this thing on. I found, like, some of the missing stuff in this year's Oscars ceremony, like the nominations, nominees. I found them kind of weird and jarring. Some of them were like, really? Oh, I must have missed something, I guess, this year.
00:54:05
Speaker
um Yeah. Yeah, well we'll talk about that soon. Yeah, I don't trust the Oscars after they never nominated... Resident Evil Welcome to Raccoon City for best picture. I just, I'm never going to believe any of that.
00:54:16
Speaker
Right, yeah. I'm joking. Okay, well, let's so let's do it. Let's move into, I think, a movie that you are definitely higher on in The Bone Temple. 28 years later, the Bone Temple, directed by Nia DaCosta and written by Alex Garland, much like the rest of this trilogy. Hopefully, there is ah third movie in the trilogy. I don't know. We'll see based on the the box office success or not. But, but yeah, this is the second in the, in the trilogy. The first one was last year directed by Danny Boyle. And this one take picks up basically where the last one, last one ended in, in a large way. It also stars Ray Fiennes as well.
00:54:59
Speaker
Uh, Jack O'Connell and, um, Yeah, it's ah it's ah it's a pretty big one. I'm going to just say my my kind of brief thoughts, I guess, and then you can jump jump in. But I feel like I really like this movie a lot. I do not like it as much as the first iteration, like the first 28 years later. Not the first iteration. I guess that would have been 28 days later. Yeah.
00:55:21
Speaker
I feel like it's not quite as good as 28 years later. And my reasoning for that was it's the detail orientation in the first film and the way it's shot is also unique, but there's like a element of being thrown into this universe. And I, I'm not sure I've, I believed it quite as much in the second movie.
00:55:38
Speaker
But there is so much good writing in it. It is so well written and so much amazing acting. And there's like a, there's one set piece. There's one moment that I that was like kind of blown away. it kind of almost reminds me of,
00:55:53
Speaker
The Sinners moment in a strange way, actually. A great moment to see a movie in theaters, I guess. It's just, it was so awesome. And I think Ralph Fiennes in particular was amazing. Chee-Lewis Perry is also so good.
00:56:07
Speaker
He's ah like a past m MMA fighter and he plays Samson. So good. Anyway, I'm a big fan of this film. I just didn't quite love it as much as the previous one, but who cares? Is this what does that matter? Really? It's just such a joy to watch. And yeah, so I'll throw it to you. I know like you coming out of the theater. I'm sure you love this film.
00:56:27
Speaker
But yeah, but yeah, go on. Yeah, dude, I freaking love this movie. I think it's awesome. I do agree with you that When I compare it to the first movie, I think it's missing just a little bit of, I think, style.
00:56:42
Speaker
I think the style of how the first movie was shot and its direction was a little bit more refined and more familiar compared to, you know, like when you're watching 28 years later going into 28 episodes.
00:56:53
Speaker
Sorry, 28 days later, going into 28 years later, because again, it's directed by Danny Boyle for both of those. And he he's just refined his style over you know the course of 24 years. He's just really creative in the way that he shoots films. I think that's just the thing.
00:57:06
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I think Nierkosta kind of shoots him a little bit more straightforward, kind of closer to like Spielberg. And we're in like a a strange, not to knock anyone, but I just feel like Danny Boyle had like a very, iil but again, we talked about chaotic style of the way is this thing on this shot. This is, that was kind of Danny Boyle kind of his editing and the the chaos of the way we it was shot was unique.
00:57:28
Speaker
Definitely. Yeah, very much so. So I think that's kind of really the, the major thing that, differentiates these two in the form of quality. However, I think just like how in the first movie it took this like genre, this zombie movie horror genre that's been essentially done to death and created something wholly unique.
00:57:50
Speaker
Um, They captured that again in 28 years later, the Bone Temple, in a lot of ways. And they do so many cool fucking ideas in this movie where it literally – you're in it for the ride. And I know you mentioned there is this like almost lack of um realism.
00:58:12
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not Not necessarily realism, but like believability of of what everything, like you know, what's occurring compared to the first, ah you know, first movie in the 28 years later franchise. It's tough to talk about these because there's four movies now, but you know what I'm trying to say. And I guess I can kind of agree with you on that, but ah there is this, not necessarily a suspension of disbelief, just It almost feels like Alex Garland, the writer, trusted the audience enough to to figure that out on their own.
00:58:42
Speaker
um There's like one... Sorry, go ahead, please. This is where I i don't necessarily agree. like How do you figure it out on your own? like Because the first movie establishes certain characters living in a specific spot that makes it clear how they would have survived.
00:58:59
Speaker
And in the second movie, you're like, wait there's other characters There's other people surviving, but they're how this has been 28 years. So that's my issue with it. Like, wait, wait, wait, they're where they're just in the middle of the mainland. Like these zombies are fast and they're strong.
00:59:19
Speaker
So how? And that's, that's my issue. It's not like a breaking. It's not like I was almost a game breaking, but it's not like a plot breaking thing. situation for me, but it's not, it's not as like, I'm, I'm having, I'm like, I'm like, how do we be squaring that? Like, I'm not, I'm not going to figure that out. I couldn't figure that out. Like, how did these particular people survive? Because you see them not doing too well. So you're like, Wait a second, 28 years? yeah like it's just It's confusing in that way. and i I feel like i don't I don't know if they thought it through. and That's kind of my issue with it. like I love Alex Garland's writing. I think he's amazing. but I wonder if like they're like kind of like, eh, suspend your disbelief a little bit. Just a tiny bit.
01:00:04
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you know yeah This ain't companion. That film definitely asks you to suspend your disbelief quite a bit. But this doesn't do that. But that's kind of the level I was saying before. If you and didn't understand my drift.
01:00:19
Speaker
I follow you now. That makes a little bit more sense. Yeah. Yeah. that That does make a little bit more sense. I can see where you're coming from. I don't disagree with you. It's not a bad thing because I'm like, you just got to suspend your disbelief. It's not a plot hole. It's just kind of like, ah, it's kind of like, ah, that's too bad because it's a it's a blight on another wise because they they do a lot in the first movie.
01:00:37
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to establish like how things are in the world around them in the UK where this, this, this infection is taken hold. And they're like, well, okay, I understand this. This is it's crazy. And you're like, oh, I can see all these people are surviving. They got this whole plan and there's a lot of things in place, strategies. I'm like, this is very interesting. And they take risks, but you're like, should they be? And it's kind of cool, but this is like, well, wait, there's like some, Some strange things going on. Like not everyone is in this same situation as the people shown in the first movie. And like how, what is the situation? And that's kind of the question. And like, I'm like, I'm not believing as much. Sorry. I'll throw it back to you. You were about say something. No, no, no, no. That's fair, man. I, I, I do get where you're coming from there for sure. i think that makes a little bit of sense. Cause yeah, there are these, I i guess these moments um where, yeah, you literally do have to suspend your disbelief where I feel like you never really had to in the first one.
01:01:28
Speaker
So no, I got everything through. Yeah, they they did think that through. And I guess anyway, there is, I guess, this lack of um scale. And what when I mean scale, like distance, that's great.
01:01:41
Speaker
Great work. Yeah. Like it's like where like where are they compared to, know, like where is like the bone temple compared to where, you know Spike came from in the first movie compared to where he was at the start of the movie compared to where this random like farmhouse is and like these set pieces in it. Yeah. You just kind of great point.
01:02:00
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you don't necessarily even know how many days pass throughout the, this, this movie. You, you assume that maybe it's just a couple days, but at the same time, like they could have been traveling for days and we just don't see it. It does. That's like tricky. Cause again, yeah the the thread is so deep that, um,
01:02:17
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you know? Yeah. So like, yeah, that that is, I think that's a fair assumption, but they also like show how capable a lot of these people are, at least like this, the core cast that you're following along with.
01:02:28
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um The one thing that I do think that this, this, this movie does super interest that are like super, sorry, let me take a step back. I don't know how the fuck I I'm talking right now. the The one thing that this movie does incredibly well is how it brings these,
01:02:47
Speaker
Main characters, but this main character from the first movie to essentially being a a side character, still part of the main cast, but not the focus point and brings this character that was introduced either right at the end of the movie or as a side character in the first movie and brought them to the forefront. And again, you're following the movie essentially from the villain's perspective 50% of the time.
01:03:10
Speaker
And I think that's a really cool thing to do. And it's like these, the villains that we're following and and watching, they're cool. They're intriguing. They're fucked.
01:03:22
Speaker
And it's really disgusting and messed up, but it is still like this, like cool, like setup. And again, like as soon as you bring in, like, you know, this is like religious angle to it. And it kind of makes sense why there's a religious angle. Um, And, you know, the the character like explains like what his beliefs are not in like the walking dead way where I'm going to sit down and tell you exactly how I feel, but just based on context clues from the beginning of 28 years later. And then these moments throughout 28 years later, bone temple where you're like, oh shit. Yeah. This guy's fucked in the head for good reason though.
01:03:55
Speaker
And like believes this for good reason, because again, he was a child when everything happened and, you know, his his worldview adjusted immediately. and And again, there's some like really cool reveals throughout the movie.
01:04:08
Speaker
And how the two independent tales that are occurring throughout the movie eventually intersect at the end is fucking awesome. There's this, again, I think it's the scene that you're talking about at the end of this movie with like the music blaring and everything that is so fucking cool. It is one of the coolest things I've seen in a movie in God knows how long where I'm just like, I'm like smiling ear to ear despite the fucked up circumstances that are occurring.
01:04:37
Speaker
And, um, This movie, although again, dealing with incredibly dark themes and like really fucked up scenarios is like really fun to watch. Whereas i think...
01:04:49
Speaker
I guess tonally it's different from 28 years later where I think 28 years later, the the start is like fairly anxiety inducing and intense. And it becomes kind of like a somber tale. Like it's the sad, like family story, which again, I love.
01:05:02
Speaker
And this movie is kind of a, a romp all the way through in a lot of the, in a lot of ways. um Yeah. And you're like, Holy fuck. Like this, this shit's crazy. But i like, I want to know, ah like I can see myself, you know, going back to this and like rewatching it. Just if, if I'm in like the mood to watch something fun,
01:05:19
Speaker
Whereas like when I want to watch 28 years later again, or like when I decide to watch 28 years later again, I feel like I got to be in a headspace where i'm like, I just want to watch some like really high quality, like emotional storytelling. That's still, you know, a lot of fun moments. And like, there's again, cool camera angles that that Danny Boyle does and everything.
01:05:36
Speaker
Um, But yeah, again, I really love this movie. I thought it was fantastic. It's my favorite movie of 2026 far. the only 2026 movie I've watched in theory, but like my favorite movie this year and how 28 years later was my favorite movie of last year. i wouldn't be surprised if,
01:05:55
Speaker
finishing this year and being like 28 years later, the bone temple was my favorite movie of, of 2026. Um, yeah, it's, it's interesting. Like, yeah, it is very, very fun to watch. There's that element of it. I feel like, yeah, you're right. Compared to the first,
01:06:10
Speaker
Yeah, it's so interesting. It's so cool how they built this essentially as a trilogy right from the get-go. Like, they thought about it, and they it feels like a TV show, or like a miniseries, more than it does a movie, and it like movies in some way. Yeah, so...
01:06:26
Speaker
It seems like it's even the way this one ends, you're like, oh, I see where they're going to go with it. like You understand that it's going to continue and in which which directions it's going to go. I didn't quite understand how they were where they were going to go from the first one because it it does end pretty well, but then they kind of epilogue it and they give you a little bit more to kind of show you where they're going with the storyline. I'm curious how they're going to end the entire trilogy, less so how they're going to end the last film.
Film Criticism & Star Wars Parallels
01:06:51
Speaker
And I hope that, again, because the box office success hasn't been exactly,
01:06:56
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ripe I'm hoping that they do get enough money to to fund the last film because they they haven't started it yet. that's supposed to be, I'm pretty sure, directed by Danny Boyle as well. yeah So that that's super exciting. But yeah, no, I'm a big fan of this film. It was amazing. It was very, very good. It's great. It's just, I kind of, the sense of scale is confusing in travel, but also like how is everyone living? the scale The scale is weird because you're like, you're thrown into the space and the bone temple seems to be central to everything, but where is it? You're like confused by It's just confusing. fusing. And that's my only criticism. Hard to follow.
01:07:28
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But it's cool. Like how they also investigated the infection in this one from a perspective of like the overall, looking at the overall universe of 28 days universe and looking at how, like, what does it mean? Like what, how do these work? And again, Rafe, Ray fines is so good in this. It's just crazy how good he is. And like the relationships with certain characters in this movie are are very fun to watch and very interesting. And,
01:07:54
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um This is the second kind of movie. We see Jack O'Connell as like a deranged villain yeah in the last like 12 months. And he did a really good job in both of them.
01:08:09
Speaker
So yeah, no, it's, I I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan. This is also the best film. Wait, is it the best film for 2026? Yeah. For the, for as far as the 2026 film. Yeah. A hundred percent. I did watch another movie though. And I'm about to talk about it. If we're done talking about, uh, 28.
01:08:26
Speaker
Um, yeah, just give me a minute. Sorry. Oh, you're out again. Yeah. no Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.
01:08:36
Speaker
Okay, apologies. I'm going to be interrupted momentarily. pro I just don't know exactly when, but I will be interrupted again shortly. I apologize. That's all right. um It's the it's the ah the negatives of being a ah top-tier businessman, you know? Yeah, you know it, dude. what were going to say before we move on to... Yeah, before we move move on from 28 years later, have twenty eight years later i have a like yeah A theory of why it's not doing well box office wise. Okay. um And honestly, I think it genuinely has to do with it releasing so close to the last one. And the reason why I think this, Simon, is I think about the last movie ah franchise that had a very similar situation happen.
01:09:21
Speaker
And that was Star Wars when The Last Jedi came out. And then the Han Solo Solo movie called Solo A Star Wars Story came out only five months later. i think December to May. I think there's such a small gap in between that. I think a lot of the average people out there – might not realize that these movies are honestly different.
01:09:40
Speaker
And the reason why i think my theory is correct is at work, I was, you know, one of my morning meetings, I think literally the day after we watched this movie, I mentioned on ah my work call, was like, man, I just watched the 28 years later movie last night. It was awesome.
01:09:53
Speaker
And like my one buddy who watched the first 28 years later movie literally says like, dude, there's another one. Like I didn't even know. And I think it's probably because he assumed that the trailers for this new 28 years later movie were just trailers for the DVD release of the last one.
01:10:08
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um I think the marketing kind of did that ah a disservice to this. So I'm a little bit a little bit saddened by that. I hope they it hope they don't get gun shy of releasing a third one because of this.
01:10:20
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um I just think, yeah, they didn't do a good job of differentiating. And I think it would have been better if they just, you know, wait a full year. Like you don't necessarily have to release this movie so soon after.
01:10:31
Speaker
As much as I'm happy about it. Huh? It came out in the beginning of last year. Didn't it? Didn't it come out in the summer? I don't think so. Did it? Was it June? Oh, it was June. Yeah, it was it yeah swear yeah just the beginning of summer. So it's been about six months, give or take a bit. Six, seven months.
01:10:47
Speaker
More than six months, yeah, but still. You're right. Yeah, I thought it was January for some reason. Yeah, that's a good pull call out. I don't know. I'm not sure that that's the reason, though. i'm I don't know. I feel like the marketing is muted. Is there really any marketing?
01:10:59
Speaker
and get made The other one, 28 years later, made $151 million worldwide. And this film has made $30 million so far, which is nothing compared to what they spent. So yeah so I don't know. You may be right, though. I would agree. I feel like that's a smart idea. You at least gap it by 12 months. why Why the gap?
01:11:18
Speaker
You want people to want it a little bit more. And you also can avoid confusion that way. So I don't disagree with you. That's a good call out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's too bad. It's too bad.
01:11:28
Speaker
I don't know why I thought it was in the winter. It was like one of the first movies we saw last year, but it's not. We saw lots of movies before that. We saw many. We saw many. we yeah We saw at least one movie before that. At least At least one. Yeah.
01:11:41
Speaker
yeah that's it's interesting yeah i hope it does well like it's it would be really crappy if they don't get to complete the trilogy because they just like set up a pretty big i know at the end so it's like that be disappointment oh well i mean i'd be very bummed out yeah i thought it was already greenlit though did they not already greenlit the sequel i guess they could always go back on it but i swear they greenlit the third one i don't know I don't know. it's not They aren't that expensive to make, that that's for sure. I think it was like something like $40 million or something.
01:12:15
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Oh, I
01:12:20
Speaker
oh i don't know. That's AI, though. Google AI says, yes, the third 28 years later film has been officially greenlit by Sony, but I'd have to click a link to see if that's true. Yeah, deadline um ah back in December said 28 years later, part three moves forward.
01:12:36
Speaker
with um yeah killian murphy in talks i wonder why well i don't know what the heck then like yeah i just don't know why why did they do that why did they put the the movies why they released them so close i mean there's nothing in january there's not that many movies ones with there's that advantage i guess i don't know it seems like a bit of an unnecessary risk yeah Yeah, it's a it's a good call. I don't know what they're doing. this This befuddles me a lot when they do this. No, the Star Wars one was way worse, though, if I remember. Oh, no, it wasn't because it was no, it was about the same. Yeah, because ah it was 2019, like November or December for Rise of Skywalker. And then Solo was in May.
01:13:15
Speaker
it wasn't that far off. is ah it It is a bizarre thing to do. Yeah, people were confused. With Star Wars, I think that didn't help it. I mean, it may not be the only reason, but yeah, right maybe people were tired because of Rise Skywalker being garbage. Maybe that also did it a little bit.
01:13:33
Speaker
They didn't want to go see Solo. didn Didn't it come out between Last Jedi or after the Last Jedi? it was Last Jedi. Oh, well, thoughts same reason. yeah yeah Same reason for some people. And I guess you can make argument.
01:13:48
Speaker
Yeah. Unfortunately, I don't talk to many people who who like say the last Jedi is good. i don't, I don't know many people except for you. like It's rare. I don't know why that's so rare because critics love it. And the Rise scholar rise of Skywalker is genuinely thought to be bad by critics.
01:14:06
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And I think true fans of Star Wars. But anyway, not
Film Recommendations
01:14:10
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Rotten Tomatoes fans, apparently. ah yeah yeah Anyway, so should we move on? home I guess so. We're not doing number rating anymore. Did we just kind of give up on that? I'm fine with that.
01:14:22
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and The problem with doing numbering, I feel like we should just do it when we do, if we do a closer look of episodes, just because it it keeps it simple. I don't like doing it because I feel like my numbers change constantly in letterbox. So I'm giving you the letterbox number and then I like change it. Like, is this thing on kind of went a little bit up and I took...
01:14:41
Speaker
I almost moved ah but the Bone Temple up a little bit too, but I i took it back down. i did i Just to kind of go into what I've been watching, I'm not going to go into them too much, but i saw Jay Kelly on Netflix, which I liked quite a bit, speaking of Noah Baumbach.
01:14:56
Speaker
And it was pretty good. And I also watched The Rip, which I thought was very entertaining, and I recommend it. It reminds me of ah ah of a game of Resistance or Mafia, where you're like trying to guess who the villain is. You can't figure it out.
01:15:09
Speaker
But The Rip as stars Matt Damon and Ben Affleck in a movie directed by Joe Carnahan. And basically, they're they're cops and they they're going into these houses. they're they're They're given a tip about them being stash houses for like the like the the cartels.
01:15:24
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ah down in South America or Mexico. And so they they go into these stash houses to like to to get take the money out in the they they basically dismantle some of the the cash flow from these cartels.
01:15:37
Speaker
ah And they essentially find, as shown in the trailer, a huge stash house. It has so much money. And the problem is they know that there's corrupt cops somewhere in their organization. and like there's it's kind of shown that like they're worried that there is some some people are corrupt somewhere and they're worried that there there could be a corrupt person in this organization and everyone's kind of like on their, on their toes and they don't know who to trust. And so it was like, it's a, it's a complete movie about who to trust. I didn't love the action sequences as much. And I wasn't a huge fan of like the action music in it.
01:16:09
Speaker
That was kind of the the downfall of it. But I felt like the acting was very strong and the writing overall was strong and they were kind of, throwing hints here and there about like who it could be, but they're kind of like red herring sometimes stars like, um, uh, Steven Yeun as well.
01:16:25
Speaker
It stars that Kyle Chandler as well. Uh, and taa Taylor, who's like blowing up. She's just in everything. So Tiana Taylor is in this as well as obviously one battle after another. oh and she's in that Kim Kardashian show. i always forget about that show because it's crazy. Glenn Close, Kim Kardashian, and Tiana Taylor. And what is called? I was to say is' this thing. All's Fair. Something of like that. All's Fair. Yeah.
01:16:47
Speaker
Something like short. Yeah. All's Fair. That's right. Some lawyer shows. The beauty show. A little. It's okay. Yeah, it's not getting that bad reviews. 73. Yeah, it's okay. That one, because we were about to, don't know told you this, were about to watch the other, was it Ryan Murphy show? The one with the dude from Sons of Anarchy, what's his name? Charlie Hunnam.
01:17:07
Speaker
We're going to watch the show where he plays like that that's serial killer. And because we watched the other two series monster shows, like the shows on Netflix called like the monster series. um This is the Ed Gein story. And we were like, we're about to watch it because i have Netflix now. And we bowed out because we're like, no, i can't. I can't in good conscience. It's like below 20% or something. It's really low on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm like, I can watch something. We have so many things to watch. Do we really need to watch this particular thing? It sucks because I think Charlie Hunnam looked like he was probably doing a good job.
01:17:38
Speaker
I just feel like the overall writing might have been the problem. I don't know. Maybe one day I'll watch it when I get Netflix again. But anyway. Yeah. but Yeah. The rip. I recommend it. If you're, if you're interested in it, actually, i don't recommend it to you. I recommend it to the ether. Everyone out in the world. if you're interested in like a, kind of like a, like a, it's like a, it's not a murder mystery though. It's a, it's a mystery show, but you're kind of, you're trying to figure out who the trader It's like a game of trader. You're trying to figure it out. It's really kind of an.
01:18:02
Speaker
Dude. What? ah That just reminds me. I've also been watching the traders because it came back. The hit reality TV show. Awesome. So this is like a movie version of the hit reality TV show, The Traitors, is what you're telling I don't know about that because I haven't seen that. That's what you've just been saying. That's what you've been saying.
01:18:20
Speaker
If you have Netflix, i so I would say it's a good time. It's it's ah it's entertaining and it's got a good budget. It's it's cool. It's it's exciting. And I there's nothing really I didn't like about it really, except again, I just wasn't a huge fan of that. It felt like the action sequences were kind of forced. Like it's like one of those examples where the action isn't dictated by the plot and in a strange way. Like it's not really necessary. like Some of them were needed, but some of them were like, ah is this really, do really need to go into this now? It just kind of felt gratuitous for no reason. So that was my only kind of criticism of it. but And I think the Ben Affleck, Matt Damon duo is just is great. There have been a lot of movies together. they just They have worked together a lot. They're best friends, whatever. And they won an Oscar together. It's cool. But I feel like I can't get enough of them. I'm i'm good with it.
01:19:09
Speaker
I'm happy to see them together. Nice. But anyway, they they have good chemistry. All You out? Yeah. Sorry. One second. My apologies. Another business call. This businessman, he can't be stopped. He continues to business. He continues to businessman. He is the best at business. right. I'm going to stop.
01:19:27
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I don't really have any material in this. Okay. Bye.
01:19:35
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Okay. I'm sorry.
01:19:38
Speaker
I'm sorry, all these all these business calls after hours, man. It's absurd. It's absurd, I tell you. Absolutely, absolutely. That's what happens when you deal with clients on the West Coast. You know what mean, man?
01:19:50
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Three hours behind. Of course, that's gotta to be what it is. Now, Adrian, we're going to move on to the montage the sequence of our show in which I briefly present at least seven of the bi-weeks smaller news stories as Adrian delivers a brisk verdict. Number one, after Paramount's multiple rejected hostile takeover bids to acquire Warner Brothers Discovery, David Ellison's Paramount is now suing Warner Brothers to force them to provide transparent details of Netflix's successful bid to purchase Warner Brothers. Oh, my God. Get over it.
01:20:22
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Jesus. So clingy. Number two, according to publication deadline, Whiplash director Damien Chazelle's mysterious next film will star Knives Out actor Daniel Craig, 28 Days Later actor Cillian Murphy and Dying for Sex Golden Globe winner Michelle Williams, with production scheduled for later this year. Oh, OK.
01:20:44
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Good cast. Good cast. Good cast. Number three, Interstellar composer Hans Zimmer has been hired on to score HBO's Harry Potter TV series. Oh, amazing. Okay. Not too shabby. Man, everyone's so negative about the Harry Potter show. I'm in it.
01:21:02
Speaker
I'm going to enjoy it. Why the fuck not? Yeah. Unless it's bad. Well, yeah.
Reality Series & Streaming Strategies
01:21:06
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Yeah. Yeah. Number four. Amazon has announced that they have greenlit a reality TV series called Fallout Shelter based on video game series Fallout, where contestants compete while trapped in a Fallout shelter.
01:21:19
Speaker
that's so fucking good stupid dude what a leap in logic there i hope they bash each other with wrenches and pipes that's one of the challenges you gotta kill one of your fucking shelter fallout shelter people with a fucking pipe gotta sick a huge rodent roach Filled with radiation on your fellow man.
01:21:41
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Have them kill them. feel like there might be laws against that type of thing. Oh my god. Number five. In an interview by the New York Times, Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos now claims that Netflix would commit to a 45-day theatrical window if their deal to purchase Warner Brothers finally goes through. Yeah, you better Saran do that.
01:22:01
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Number six, as Deadline reports, Netflix has adjusted their Warner Brothers purchase agreement to make it an all cash deal now by removing the stocks part of the deal. This amendment that was made to the agreement to make the deal even more appealing to Warner Brothers shareholders and to potentially speed up the process of closing the deal by removing the uncertainty of shifting stock prices.
01:22:22
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By the way, all of these news items about Warner Brothers purchase are in order, I believe, of chronology. That's amazing. I mean, good for them for having that much cash on hand.
01:22:33
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What a what a twist. Well, you seem so interested. Let's speed up this process. Let's speed up this process. I'm just over it. Who who the fuck cares? It's happening.
01:22:44
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Yes, that's why it's in the montage. That's why we're not talking about it in the trilogy of topics. Anyways, number seven, as Deadline reports, Flash and Birds of Prey scribe Christina Hodson has been tapped as the screenwriter for the upcoming DC Universe Batman film, Batman, the Brave and the Bull.
01:23:02
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As announced previously, its director, Andy Muschietti, has been set as director. Nice. Okay, fantastic. i don't know. I'm just waiting. And that concludes the montage.
01:23:14
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wow want want Didn't James Gunn say that we won't be hearing about anything Batman Brave and the Bold until after Batman Part 2? Didn't he say that? Huh. I don't know. Maybe it was just, well, he didn't, he didn't reveal it. Yeah. Fair enough. Leaks happen, you know?
01:23:27
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Yeah. That's good that she's, there's somebody writing
Soap Operas & Oscar Nominations
01:23:30
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it. Jesus. If they don't get a writer first, they're kind of screwed. I thought they were already wrote this, movie this movie. I thought it was already like in pro in progress of being written.
01:23:39
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I know. There's no script at all. Like you didn't have anything until now you just started. That's the strange thing. They might have like a storyboard or something. of them Every time I hear Batman, the Brave and the Bold, I think about the freaking Brave and the Bold. Isn't it called the Brave and Bold, that soap opera?
01:23:56
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Oh, no. The brave. Wait, maybe it is. I'm thinking it's like something young and restless. And then, ah man, brave. And there's just something about brave and the bold. It's like young and the restless. It's the same idea, you know? Yeah.
01:24:12
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Um, I can't, my God. What are they? What are they? What are they? What are those called? Soap opera. Soap opera. You're still there? he' so Bold and the beautiful. Bold and beautiful.
01:24:24
Speaker
Bold and the beautiful. Whatever. That's what I think about. beautiful my My grandmother used to watch so many soap operas constantly. she would always watch the daytime soap operas. I think her her soap opera of choice, though, was Young and the Restless.
01:24:36
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She would watch it she would be always like, I have to go see my show. I got to go see my show. can't be making Palachanka right now. I got to go watch Young and the Restless at 1 p.m. or whenever it aired. No, 5 p.m. I think it aired right at like, yeah, shifts end for nine to five workers or something. It's it's crazy. Like soap operas like they're like they're they're machines, man, like how quickly they're released. Like they'll film, i don't know, like months in advance and then just essentially release a new episode every day. It's like it's impossible to catch up on. And the storylines are crazy because my my wife's mom will watch some soap operas and occasionally she'll talk about some stuff. There's like demonic possessions.
01:25:20
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People dying and then being reincarnated, having like face surgeries to become different actors. It's crazy. They don't fuck around. It's great. that These spots are crazy. There's just, it's a, it is a machine. I agree. It's a crazy machine. It's a, it's an impressive one. I will say this too. It's like, i was watching young and the restless with my grandmother to hang out with her at certain times. And she's just, you know, she put it on and like, I'm not, I'm at her house. I'm not going to just go, what am I going to go do something else? So I'm like, just hanging out with her.
01:25:48
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And I'm watching young and the restless. I'm like, wait, is that Jesse Faden? I'm like, it is. It's freaking yeah Courtney Hope. in like a large part of Young and the Restless. It's weird. Like a lot of soap opera actors, they don't break out of that, those roles though. They kind of just stay in those roles. That's like like a genre they just live in. They don't like leave it.
01:26:12
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So it's kind of neat. Like Courtney Hope like was in a pretty big budget role. role at a huge studio. Well, it's bigger now than ever, but yeah, like in Remedy Entertainment, like they, don't know, I feel like that's such a good game control. Yeah. so it's It's funny that you mentioned that because like when I played control a couple of years back or a few years back, my, my, my then um girlfriend who is now my wife, um she literally was like, i think I know who that actress is. And it's because her mom watches the young and the restless.
01:26:44
Speaker
Oh, right. like she She's like, I feel like I've seen this woman before. And she was like Google search again and found out that, yeah, she was on the Young and the Restless. I was surprised it was. It was. yeah This was years ago now. This was like five years ago, like right when control was kind of coming out.
01:26:58
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I was like, was watching. I'm like, wait a second. Control is coming out. Control came out and they're like, I'm gay.
01:27:05
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What? Because the control was coming out. get it. I get Yeah. Wow. Good good one. Thanks, dude. All right, Adrian. Thanks. Let's dive in now into a trilogy of news, a component of our show where we discuss at least three film and TV industry news stories that have been somewhat zeitgeisty over the past two weeks. Adrian, we begin with awards season being in full swing, and we're going discuss this with the announcement, which actually happened today as ah as as the time of this recording, because we were recording this on a Thursday.
01:27:34
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But the the Oscar nominees were were announced today, um which is kind of exciting, I guess. It's kind of cool. um But yeah, it's the 98th annual Academy Awards. It's going to be hosted by Conan O'Brien, and it airs on March 15, 2026. Notably, I put some notes here, but if you have any other things to talk about, we'll we bring them up. Notably, director Ryan Coogler's Sinners.
01:28:01
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ah one of the biggest movies of last year for Warner Brothers, has has made Oscars history with 16 nominations, which is crazy. The previous top number of nominations, I think, was 14, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know which movie it was. I feel like it might have been Lord of the Rings.
01:28:16
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I'm not 100% sure. But anyway, and so that's one notable thing. ah There were other things too, actually. i wrote them down separately. But is there anything that kind of stood out to you before I get into some other things, other notes about the Oscar nominations? Are you – any snubs or surprises that you're interested in talking about here today?
01:28:37
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i'm Not off the top of my head, man. i mean, i'll be honest with you, Simon. I didn't look too deeply into these nominations because I kind of forgot that they were released today. Oh. So – that's okay it's it's yeah like i i mean i've been working all day simon i work eight hours and i think these were released about eight hours ago so is it at least at 8 30 in the morning yeah and i was working and so it's been longer than eight hours it's been it's it's been 11 hours since the release of those i went what can you do sometimes timelines don't don't match up But here here's what I got. here's what Here are the things that surprised me. And then we can jump into the Golden Globes because that did happen ah like pretty much right after we recorded the last episode. And you watched that show. I watched them. Right.
01:29:25
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So we can talk about that too. Because again, the award season, full swing right now. It's it's moving along. Critics' Choice Awards. Wow. Lots of things going on. But here's the thing. Here's a weird some weird things okay that I found.
01:29:38
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Timothy Chalamet, first of all, is a cool thing. to Timothy Chalamet became the youngest actor since Marlon Brando to garner three Oscar nominations. Amazing. That's cool. Good for him.
01:29:50
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Good for him. Good for Timothy. thing I didn't know. Did you ever know why they capped out the nominees for Best Picture? Sorry, did you ever... I just give it away. Do you ever know about why there's sometimes less or more Best Picture nominees?
01:30:04
Speaker
No, please tell me, Simon. I thought that they initially they put... i i thought they were just making it up each year, but it's not the way... They do preferential voting. so they They make you list it in a row of what ah like what movies you want to be nominated for Best Picture. and then it's just There's basically a cutoff that gets them put into the pool.
01:30:25
Speaker
and They can go up to maximum of 10. That's why there's never more than 10. That's the reason. But they made the cap 10 at a certain point years ago. I think it was the first year. i think the first year was when Op was nominated. i can't remember what year that was. um But I think that was the first year. I just didn't know that. And I thought that that was a really neat thing. Because I was always wondering, like why did they keep changing the rules? like why are they and and And honestly, this is exactly how the Video Game Awards should do it. I don't know what they're doing over at the Video Game Awards. I think it's absurd. And it's really... a disservice to the industry in which they claim to honor that they don't put more than six nominees for video game awards. And and the best way to do that is if you have the
01:31:03
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nominating party, the nominating group of individuals, putting the nominees in, in a list and you, you choose it based on like, again, in order of the the movies you want to see when the most, um, I feel like that's the best way to do that. It's kind of the, but maybe the best way that we should do voting for for our countries. Actually, you should kind of do preferential voting as opposed to, in it but don't know, that's not going to change that. things don't change that, that, uh, that quickly in the, in the old government level. But anyway, that would cool. But yeah, this, uh, the one, that's one thing I think the video game board should do, but I thought that was really cool. That's why there's 10, there's 10 nominees this time for best picture. You might've already seen them up in your screen there, yeah which is cool. One weird thing that I thought was really weird as a snub. There's a lot of snubs that was like, wow, it's weird. Paul Mescal was not nominated for hamnip, but he was like kind of nominated everywhere else, which is strange.
01:31:54
Speaker
Um, yeah so that's weird. there's no love for Dwayne the rock Johnson or George Clooney. George Clooney has been nominated quite a bit. I feel like for Jay Kelly, which I think is a pretty great movie.
01:32:05
Speaker
I like it. Jay Kelly's like Hollywood. It's like Hollywood, what a Christmas Carol. That's what I say. It is. It's pretty cool. I like it. Adam Sandler killed it too. Not nominated. um And, ah and wicked for good was completely snug, snubbed. It's not in there at all, which I thought was interesting, dude.
01:32:24
Speaker
Obviously, the first Wicked last year was nominated. Exactly. it's I've never seen something fall so hard from Grace in such a short amount of time. Everyone was so high on Wicked, the first Wicked movie. Everyone was talking about it like it was the second coming of Jesus Christ. Everyone's like, this is a fucking banger of a movie. It's amazing.
01:32:44
Speaker
Then the second one came out. And it was like a fart in the wind, dude. It was just, it just kind of like, it just, it became non-existent and I didn't hear anyone talk about it. People were like, oh yeah, it's not that good. And then it just died.
01:32:56
Speaker
It was like nothing. And it's kind of crazy to think about. It's a shame. It's a shame. There's too much. i I think like our world is very much like an attention, like governed by like an attention economy. It's, it's getting crazier and crazier out there. There's just too many things drawing our attention. Yeah.
01:33:13
Speaker
and The way that our screens work and, you know, social media and like the video game industry is bigger than ever. And then there's like there's obviously movies and TV shows. TV shows were never as big as they've they've been now. And so it's like there's so much trying to draw your attention. So if you are 66 percent of Rotten Tomatoes when your first film was well above a million, a million percent, I think. It was very well regarded at 88% for Wicked, the first Wicked.
01:33:40
Speaker
So I think that that's part of it, and it just wasn't as well-reviewed. So this got, i again, shafted, which sucks. but I also didn't hear like any of the music. like I feel like everyone talked about the music so highly in the first Wicked, wicked the one the first one, where they were like, wow, Defying Gravity. Right? or whatever the song is called. I don't know. I don't remember. it loved it. But they're like, the music is so good. I haven't heard a single thing about the music. don't know if the music's good or bad in the second one.
01:34:07
Speaker
Yeah, but how can it be that bad? Didn't they just film it and produce them at the same time? Like, that's the weird thing. I thought that that's what they did. I guess so. I don't know. i are I honestly, I'm curious if it just like people turned on Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande over the course of a year being like, these people are fucking weird.
01:34:24
Speaker
Why they crying all the time? But the critics don't like it. The audience score really high, dude. Oh, it is? Yeah, Rotten Tomatoes shows the audience score for Wicked for Good at 93%. Damn, that's very, very high.
01:34:37
Speaker
Then why haven't I heard about this movie? I don't know. That's a good question. Yeah, it's a strange one. Don't know what happened there. But yeah, not no love there. And then the other one that was really weird in my opinion, No Other Choice was not nominated at all for international film even.
01:34:55
Speaker
But we talked about. Oh, yeah. That's the new parkronn Park Chan, Park Chan Wook movie, right? Yes. I want to watch that really bad. Old boy. And I thought that was pretty weird because I was very interested in seeing that. And I was like, wait, this wasn't nominated for best international feature. Like what happened?
01:35:12
Speaker
There are some movies in there that i didn't even recognize. for the international feature. And I thought it was going to get nominated for best picture. And it it obviously didn't get that because it didn't even get nominated for best international feature. It's incredibly well regarded.
01:35:25
Speaker
Yeah. It's very well regarded. And there's there. I already mentioned this before is this thing on is completely not nominated at all. And I think that's a shame personally. I think that the acting at at the very least could have been over the entire awards season season could have been nominated a lot more. Personally, I'm kind of disappointed in that aspect.
01:35:45
Speaker
um That's too bad. Yeah. on assault of the osk sorry Sorry. Go ahead. No, no, please, please, please. No, I'm changing the subject. Oh, because I'm going to say like another kind of snub that that's sticking out to me that I didn't really think about up until this very moment looking at these lists. Warfare, man.
01:36:01
Speaker
Warfare didn't get nominated for much at all. shit Yeah. And that movie is a fucking masterpiece. That's probably one of my favorite movies of last last year after like 20 years later. good Yeah. Which is which is kind of bananas to think about because that movie is um that movie is something special.
01:36:18
Speaker
Incredibly special. It is. You just mentioned in another movie, though, that it got zero nominations. Did you notice that? 20 years later, I know. What the? That's weird, no? Yeah. Same with weapons, man.
01:36:29
Speaker
Weapons, nothing. Weapons got nominated. Oh, did it? Amy Madigan. Hmm? Amy Madigan got nominated for weapons. Oh, she did. Okay, fantastic, fantastic. Okay, good to know.
01:36:40
Speaker
Well, it's all good. Yeah. But yeah, but 28 years later, though, how could it not get nominated for anything? It just seems a little strange, like visual effects or nothing, nothing. Costume design. It is weird to me that like Avatar Fire and Ass got nominated for like best costume design.
01:37:00
Speaker
but I guess, I mean, you're designing ah the costumes on the computer. Does that count? No, it doesn't. So they must be talking about Spider's outfit. Oh my God, dude. I swear to God. if We talk about spider one fucking more time.
01:37:14
Speaker
It has to be. It has to be the reason he's fucking just, uh, he's weird Tarzan, man with a mask. While I was waiting for you to get off one of your calls there, I watched a little clip of James Cameron talking about why he does the high frame rate thing.
01:37:28
Speaker
The high frame rate thing is for 3d. I don't know if I knew that before. i just forgot. But the reason why is because the problem is when something is framey, it has trouble with your your mind has problems with 3D images because like the parallax effect or whatever. So that if you can speed up the frame rate, it fixes that issue. That's pretty cool, I thought. i was like, oh, well, that makes perfect sense because people obviously complain about high frame rate, but they don't understand technology. That's the thing.
01:37:54
Speaker
My brother always talks about the soap opera effect and he's like, it's just film doesn't look the same anymore. It's just not good on TVs. It's like, no, just turn off. Freaking motion smoothing. It solves the problem. Yeah, I agree with that one. That one's actually bad. But I do like the high frame rate when you're actually putting the frames in for real as opposed to making fake frames and motion smoothing. Yeah, is actually pretty cool. I think that i that was kind of a neat thing about watching Way of Water in theaters last year. I thought that that was cool. And I think it does. It is the best 3D. And that's probably part of the reason why the 3D is so good because he's he's able to increase the frame rate. um
01:38:29
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but Anyway.
01:38:32
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Yes. Okay. Well, yeah, that's that's all I had here. That was the last one I had was what you just said. 28 years later was not nominated. That was bizarre. I thought that was like, there's not one thing it could have been nominated for. It just seems like a shame.
01:38:45
Speaker
Oh, well, it's such a creative movie. It's not really as just a zombie movie. It's really creative. I think it's, I think almost 28 years later is almost more creative than 28 days later. It's just the way that it's shot. the court Even this like the cinematography, like it wasn't nominated or no one thought the cinematography was cool. There was some crazy shots in that where he uses that freaking thing where he uses multiple iPhones and the,
01:39:06
Speaker
It's in a circle. Yeah, like what is it? Like a hundred fucking iPhones or something on like a dolly thing or whatever it was. Apple just added an update for like the new cameras, like the new iPhone 17 Pro cameras can do that now easier because you can kind of merge the the video easier. I can't remember what they call that. What do they call that camera?
01:39:24
Speaker
But it's a really cool fact that only only like filmmakers like Danny Boyle would even use. um But it's a really neat thing. Anyway, yeah, so not no love there. But anyway, that was kind of my thought process for the Oscars. It was cool. it was ah The announcements were made by Lewis Pullman and um what's her name? Oh, my God.
01:39:43
Speaker
From Color Purple purple and and from Peacemaker. Danielle Brooks. Mm-hmm. They announced the nominees. I watched it at 8.30 in the morning, pretty much. I just coincidentally was on my computer working, and then I saw it on YouTube. It came up, and I was like, oh, okay, sure, I'll watch this. Anyway, yeah. So moving on now, speaking of award season to the Golden Globes, you watched the Golden Globes. What did you think about them? What what were your thoughts? like ah you You have better perspective than I i just watched a few clips.
01:40:12
Speaker
Yeah, I thought it was good. don't know. I've been I've been like kind of vibing with award shows. It's a nice change of pace every once in a while where you just like put it on. It's easy to watch. It's fun. You see these, you know, these totally normal people that are actors coming on stage being real.
01:40:27
Speaker
not I'm just kidding. But I mean, you you do get some like genuine, like genuinely real like interactions. I'm thinking about um Stephen Graham at the Golden Globes. He like went up on stage because he won best. um best best actor and in a limited series or or television movie he's like you know giving his expect acceptance speech like saying thank you and then you know right at the end he looks at into the crowd and like oh queen lativa oh my god like just like like just in shock because he like didn't even notice her he's like oh you're a legend or whatever he said and there's like these like wholesome moments
01:41:02
Speaker
Yeah, it's wholesome, but it's also the effect of having live shows. It's kind of rare. We don't see live shows very much, and these are live, which is kind of unique. like When you watch like Jimmy Kimmel Live isn't live. It's like a joke. It's just because it's and so like When you see the Video Game Awards and like some guy runs up on stage and starts talking about Bill Clinton or whatever, you know what I mean? like Those types of moments. Mattan, Evanoff. Things can go wrong, and there's something exciting about that. or like Even E3 used to be very live, and there's a lot that could go wrong. It was interesting.
01:41:32
Speaker
So that's, I feel like that's kind of a fun moment. Like, yeah, there's a charm to it. There's a charm to these like, um, yeah, these live events. I don't know. And it just, yeah, there's like this, yeah this realness to it, which is, which is always fun. i think the award show itself, like the way it was presented was a little weird. I think, There's these two guys kind of narrating the show, and I'm sure they're big in the industry. i don't know who the fuck they are, but the one guy, he sounds like this.
01:41:57
Speaker
And yeah I feel bad. Maybe he has like some.
Golden Globes Review
01:42:00
Speaker
I don't know. Should I be rude? Whatever. I'm going rude. And he's like talking in the way he's like talk. Yeah, I am. And again, I was Googling and I'm like, am I the only one thinking this guy sounds fucking weird? Not only his voice, but the like what he's saying. And there's like this. There's like like weird, like almost like sexual undertones in the ways talking about people. I'm like, i don't know. It's kind of uncomfortable, but I feel like he's trying to just be a wholesome, nice person. So I feel kind of bad saying this, but I said it. It's out there. We're all going to die.
01:42:29
Speaker
um And. Yeah. And I don't know, like Nikki Glaser, she was hosting it. missed the first, like, I want to say like 20 minutes of this, maybe 25 minutes. So I didn't see her kind of opening monologue live.
01:42:42
Speaker
um But she's not like hosting the entire event. So there's like a lot of these like almost awkward silences where these guys are like talking about, you know, what the award is and whatever. And like, who's walking up on stage and,
01:42:56
Speaker
i don't know. there's There's this lack of like smoothness to it. And like, again, it's like palpable awkwardness. um And then again, like Nikki Glaser was there and did a host a couple of things. I think she's fairly funny. Like she's, she's a comedian.
01:43:09
Speaker
I think like she, she says like some jokes, there's a lot of like cringe comedy in it as well, where I'm like, this is not funny. We're like people trying to do like musical comedy. And I feel like musical comedy specifically is an art form.
01:43:22
Speaker
It's very difficult to do. And um I can only think of like, two, maybe three, three people that, that, that can do it well um off the top of my head. And um there's like this like musical set that she's trying to do. And it's like, it was just grossly on funny to me again. I'm not trying to be funny police here, but again, there was a couple like you are moments. I am, I am, I am.
01:43:46
Speaker
um So yeah, there was a couple of these moments where I'm just like, fuck, I don't like this, but um all in all, it's a good show. you know, I'm happy about some of the wins like Ray Sehorne winning for best actress in pluribus considering she was snubbed the entire time Better Call Saul was on, which is fucking nuts. Like she never won a single one for Better Call Saul bananas. Didn't she call out some famous actor as well? She was like she was really excited to be there and she just like ah Wasn't that her?
01:44:16
Speaker
don't remember. No, it's been like two weeks. She was just really hyped to be there. Yeah. It's cool. I don't know. that That was really neat. Yeah, I think I had a few notes about the Golden Globes. I had Ray Sehorne won for Best Actress. We had one ah for Pluribus specifically. One Battle After Another and Adolescence both garnered four awards each, which is cool. um Marty Supreme, Timothee Chalamet won for Marty Supreme, beating out DiCaprio.
01:44:43
Speaker
ah And there was that really good moment with George Clooney and Don Cheadle. I thought that was awesome. That silly moment where... that it was It was wholesome. it was funny. Yeah, it was good. They're kind of making fun of the fact that he lost, which is cool because they would have known... He would have had a good idea, I think, that he was going to lose or they thought about this in the last half an hour to make this joke. Maybe they had two different jokes set, like one where he loses, one where he wins, but... Yeah. It is cool. They did that. I don't know if you remember this, but Matt Damon came on stage when Jimmy Kimmel was hosting for the Emmys. And Matt Damon was like, did you win? And he's like eating an apple.
01:45:19
Speaker
It's like a its a really like ridiculous thing. And Jimmy come was like, you know, I didn't win. you You're in the audience, you dick. And he's he's like, I didn't know I didn't win. There's like that feud is just very entertaining to me. The Jimmy Kimmel, Matt Damon feud. So I like that. But anyway, was cool.
01:45:37
Speaker
Yeah. so yeah' mentioned Sorry. Um, it's also interesting. Like, i don't know. I feel like there are like specific presenters that do a really great job presenting. And like, you know, i think a lot of these people are reading off of teleprompters and some of it seems so like stale, which is always interesting. think they're all reading off the teleprompters. Well, that's what I mean. Like they all all are. and And some of the presenters like read it so stale and like feel feel almost like ill prepared. But then you have like the George Clooney, Don Cheadle situation, which just feels like it seems legit. Yeah.
01:46:10
Speaker
Yeah, it's very natural. Or the smartless guys. Like Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes. That was a pretty good moment too where the announcer, don't know if it was the one you didn't like, said that I don't really care for Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman is just like bewildered on stage. He's clearly not looking at a prompter.
01:46:26
Speaker
But he's positioned really well that he can, the mic can catch him though. So he knew where to stand. He was hitting his mark, I think, because you could still hear him in the PA. So I don't know. there's There's good moments that felt like they were very natural as if like they weren't scripted, but they clearly had to have been. Yeah.
01:46:42
Speaker
And then you have like ah Joe Keery and Charlie XCX on stage doing the award and Charlie XCX is definitely ah under the influence of something and just like very like uncomfortable. And then I feel like Joe Keery standing up there be like, oh, my God, like what the fuck's happening? So, again, it's there's some good moments there.
01:47:01
Speaker
Anne Hathaway and what's his name? James Franco awards for the Oscars. Oh, I don't remember. James Franco was high. Oh, they both hosted together. was like one of the notable ones that people didn't love for hosts. I didn't mind it. I watched that Oscars. I did i didn i don't think I watched that Oscars. I definitely didn't watch that Oscars.
01:47:22
Speaker
Yeah, but Anne Hathaway hosted that. Oh my goodness. What? Sorry. Anne Hathaway hosted. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. I love it James Franco simultaneously.
01:47:34
Speaker
But yeah, Chloe Zhao won for Hamnet for best drama film. Paul Thomas Anderson won for but one battle after another on the best comedy film. That's barely a comedy, but okay. I hate the awards for that. like so Like best comedy or musical and then one battle after another is in there. I'm like...
01:47:50
Speaker
um Yeah, just because there are funny moments in a movie doesn't make it a comedy. It's weird, man. They submitted themselves for that so that they could more likely win, probably because they blame what they're going up against. It's strategic. It's pretty sure it's strategic. It's going to get to my next point. Before I do that, I'll give one more thing. The studio one and the pit one again.
01:48:10
Speaker
So the studio one for best TV comedy, the pit one for best drama series. You don't see why the pit necessarily would win. But there was a nominated for best TV show. Did you notice? For the dramas? remember. I feel like it might have been. Probably.
01:48:24
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must have been. Adolescence, of course, being a miniseries, wasn't in that category. So it won its category on the miniseries or movie category. But here's what I'll say about this. Matt Damon recently came out and said that he thought that it was ridiculous to campaign for these award shows. And this is the point I want to make to close this ah little news story thingy up.
01:48:45
Speaker
I think it's ridiculous that you would campaign. I think the campaigning is stupid and there shouldn't be campaigning allowed. Everyone should just see the movies. The marketing itself is marketing itself. So if you're marketing Wicked for Good or Zootopia, which got nominated for best animated feature as an example, Zootopia 2.
01:49:03
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You marketed the movie. You're not marketing it to the people on the trades website. When you go on deadline and the Hollywood Reporter and stuff, like all the ads are like showing up as like for your consideration for Hamnet or whatever. Like, okay, like I get it. But like, this is part of the reason why so certain things don't get nominated. It's kind of annoying. And some movies are too big to not get attention, I guess. Like like a Oppenheimer, as an example, kind of naturally fell into that mold because it's a blockbuster and... It's an artsy film in some way. Yeah, it was for best comedy last year, I think.
01:49:36
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Right. But it's just kind of like did Sony campaign for 28 years later? no You know what i mean Like, I don't think they did. And like, I don't think anyone should do that. It's kind of, it's just like they're picking and choosing which movies they like and which they don't from the studios themselves. You know what I mean Like they're like, yeah which ones were likely to win? So like Warner Brothers is like, we're going to put Sinners and we're going to make sure that Sinners gets campaigned for in one battle after another and F1. F1, by the way, nominated for Best Picture.
01:50:03
Speaker
Interesting. I know, which is interesting. I feel like that movie. Yeah, here john gold glo yeah, yeah. yeah Yeah. Sorry. um I feel like I didn't hear too much about that movie. Actually, wait, was it nominated for best drama at the Golden Globes?
01:50:17
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I don't even know. i don't remember. I don't think so. I feel like I didn't see anything about F1, but don't know. I'm not always aware. I'm not always aware. Not F1. the movie. the movie.
01:50:30
Speaker
i've won the movie one Wait a second. f one the movie garner garnered two nominations of the Golden Globes, one for box office achievement.
01:50:42
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And the other for best original score by Hans Zimmer. I'm watching F1. It's Hans Zimmer did the score of F1. Oh my goodness. I'm going to watch. I was planning on watching it anyway, but I was waiting for my Netflix subscription. on Apple TV, right? Yeah.
01:50:55
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yeah Yeah. I'm going to watch that. Heck yeah. I kind of wanted to see it in theaters, but I just didn't didn't get around to it. But yeah, because it was one of the biggest movies of last year. Although didn't need my help. So there's that ah element. When a movie is doing really well in theater theaters, like on a box office perspective, I feel less obligated to go see it.
01:51:13
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that's I'm probably like the opposite human being, though, in that way. You know what i mean? Like when people see a movie is doing well, they're like, oh, well I want to go see an Avengers Endgame. You know what mean? But from for me, it's like, oh, I don't have to go to this one. I don't have to hold, you know, put my vote vote with my wallet type of situation.
01:51:28
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, okay, let's move on. Award season, season fast approaching. ah or is it We're in it. Sorry, the Oscars is fast approaching. We're in the storm, dude. We're in the storm, dude. Yeah, it's super exciting. Okay. Yeah. All right.
God of War Casting & Adaptation
01:51:43
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The next thing we're going to talk about here, Adrian, is pretty exciting. It's video game related. As announced by Amazon, Sons of Anarchy, and God of War Ragnarok actor, Ryan Hurst has been cast as Kratos in the upcoming God of War TV series, being created by Battlestar Galactica showrunner, Ronald D. Moore. Yeah.
01:51:59
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As reported by deadline with casting well underway, warm body, warm bodies actor, Teresa Palmer was also just cast as lady Sif in the series. Interesting. It seems like every five days now, because there's another, there's another actor, a cast who I don't really recognize as a, who was it?
01:52:20
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I don't remember. Anyway, sorry, it doesn't really, I know exactly what you're talking about, but I, I don't remember. I should have had this ready because I was literally looking at it earlier. Um, Yeah. Yeah. This is interesting. So I think the casting is is pretty good so far. I think it's great, actually, so far. i don't know I'm saying pretty good. I think, you know, having um Ryan Hurst cast as Kratos is honestly, i think, a really good choice. And it's also interesting because, again, he plays Thor in God of War Ragnarok, the video game. So it's kind of cool that they're bringing him back and allowing him to play a totally different character. I'm i'm super I'm super curious about how that's going to you know um work out.
01:53:03
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um The guy that we're talking about is I'm sorry. Go ahead. Sorry. Ryan Hurst is also interesting because he's very, very tall. He's 6'6", which I think is going to be helpful for forced perspective if they're trying to make Kratos seem massive as he is yeah very, very large. um Ryan Hurst, I haven't seen him. and I didn't see him in Sends of Anarchy. I obviously played him and played against him, I guess, and as in guy and God of War Ragnarok. But I did see him recently in The Walking Dead.
01:53:31
Speaker
That was a like a role that he's not. His face isn't very much in it because he's like playing a He's beta, right? Or whatever. Yeah, he's beta and he's ah in a lot and a lot in season 11. Like he's in show up quite a bit. um And he was pretty great in that. ah You just don't see his face too much.
01:53:47
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But when they showed like the side by side of like Kratos from the game and Ryan Hurst's face with the beard, I'm like, I can see it. They did a good job with the face, like trying to match the face in the in the actor they chose.
01:53:59
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And his voice is perfect. I think his voice is awesome. So it should be cool. I'm curious to hear who they're going to cast as Thor, but he doesn't. His body type isn't really like Thor in the game. So I'm I'm good with this aspect, I guess. Yeah, not really.
01:54:15
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But yeah, sorry. Who was cast? A guy named Max Parker, and he was cast as Heimdall. Right. Heimdall. Right. You know what's weird about this? Max Parker in anything. The casting they're announcing is all from God of War Ragnarok, but this timeline theoretically is going to be from 2018's God of War and onward. It's kind of like the soft reboot timeline. So I'm kind of confused as to why those are the only cast. And the person I really wanted to see cast, because I think he's a great actor in everything I've ever seen him in. And he was actually, he was in the awards circuit for um for Justified for a little while. is Jeremy Davies as Boulder.
01:54:50
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I really want him to be cast as Boulder because I think he's amazing in God of War. And not every actor in God of War is motion captured fully. They don't use their facial animation, but there's two that are very notable. One of them is Richard Schiff as Odin, and the other one is Jeremy Davies as Boulder. They're very much...
01:55:09
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in the game, essentially, whereas Kratos is not that way. And hey, this is as different as you can look pretty much yeah those actors, although that actor is amazing. And he won Christopher one at the video game awards. Yeah. Christopher Judge, who's a great actor and he did a great job. He had the longest speech in in history, like like an award show for for a time.
01:55:31
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Right. And he won the best performance. It was ridiculous, dude. That was absolutely absurd. He was motion captured, but they didn't use his full facial like features. They just completely changed the way he looks, obviously. um Oh, no, that's all I'm wrong about this. Atreus was also completely... and They won't be able to use him, though because he was a child. So I imagine they'll recast Atreus, Kratos' son, in this one. Because Atreus was also motion captured. Yeah, the kid looks like exactly like the... the guy in the game it's interesting out they picked and choose chose which ones they would do that for it's kind of interesting because like there's a game like the last of us the last of us completely every character does not look like the act except for maybe marlene maybe a tiny bit marlene and then um also um
01:56:16
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Jeff Wright's character, I feel like a little bit. similar jeffer It looks pretty different. yeah I was looking at him recently. i was like, oh, he doesn't look like Jeff Wright almost at all. I don't know. He looks like I'm a little bit. He's like the stature of him is is cool.
01:56:29
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um They just changed his facial. That's why I was saying Marlene, too. Like, I feel like she's different enough. But when I saw a photo of Marlene in her character, ironically, those are the two actors that they brought back for the TV series to play the the exact same character. Right.
01:56:44
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Yeah, funnily enough, actually. So maybe that's why I'm like thinking of it like that. or Like we're a little biased because of that knowledge. That could be it. Yeah. um Yeah, I'm trying to look up the the actor from Merlene and their respective character. But anyway, I'm really excited about this. I think this is awesome casting and I think the height was a big factor. I really thought it was going to be Jason Momoa. I got to be real.
01:57:07
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I thought this was such a high profile role, ah but I don't know if he was even interested in it. It would have been cool. but this is good. I like this. And it's good too. Cause Ryan Hearst is not really a lead in too many things. So it's kind of works. He's not like, he's not huge. Like Jason Momoa is almost too big and you kind of might not be able to see anyone, but Jason Momoa through the, through the makeup still. So it's kind of awesome to have somebody who's, who's maybe going to become bigger now because of this role, but not, is not like a, you're like, you don't have Tom Cruise playing Kratos. That would be ridiculous, man. But that would be the worst choice ever. You have to really force perspective that by a massive amount.
01:57:46
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But but yeah, it's very exciting. I'm excited this. Anyway, I think it I think it is great casting. But again, you make a really good point that they are casting characters from the sequel game God of War Ragnarok.
01:57:58
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yeah So what what ah what I'm assuming this means is that they're going to really develop those characters more and spend more time with them in this series early on.
01:58:10
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yeah So ah yeah, like i'm I'm very curious how that's going to play out and what they're going to change. Because again, I really like i really love God of War and 2018 and God of War Ragnarok. I think they're fucking awesome games. I had a blast.
01:58:23
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um I thought the stories were freaking stellar. and So I'm I'm curious, like what they're going to change. It's not as near and dear to my heart as like The Last of Us Part Two as well. So I think I'm not going to be as critical of it when it comes to the changes that they're going to make. And I think, yeah again, just from the casting alone, they're going to make some story changes early on um to.
01:58:46
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Integrate these characters into the series earlier. Yeah, the thing. yeah again, I just hope Jeremy Davies. Darren Davies is like my number one casting choice. I don't know how I haven't talked about that before. We've talked about this show and the casting for a while. We've kind of like dabbling and talking about it. I don't I feel like, again, i just I think he's underrated. He's not in enough things and it frustrates me.
01:59:07
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i I love him in Lost, but I think he's amazing in Justified. and and so i And I think he's amazing in Thor. Sorry, in Thor. In God of War. i think he's really good. like I think that that's one of the most compelling things about the God of War game in some aspect. It's not the most compelling, but i mean there's a lot of good things about it in terms of a narrative narrative perspective in the acting. but i think He's amazing. So I really hope that happens. um But here's another thing that I thought was weird, or I'm hoping happens. So they they're focusing on God of War Ragnarok actors right now. Maybe that's just a coincidence. The weird thing is like, well, first of all, Lady Sif is not that important.
01:59:45
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But Odin In either game, to be fair, yeah. Yeah. Odin is important. So you don't, and Balder is very important in the first game. so I'm like, you didn't cast those yet, or maybe just never leaked, or it's just a little weird in that Odin is more important than Lady Sif. So why didn't that get cast, even if it's God of War Ragnarok you're focusing focusing on?
02:00:05
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I'm wondering if they're making maybe making the deal with Richard Schiff, because he's been around longer and he's got to you know a more veteran actor. I don't know. But here's what I wanted to say. This game, what I interpreted as it as is because it's a TV show, much like The Last of Us goes back in time and shows us scenes of things that aren't even actually in The Last of Us games because there's just no context for that because they never made that yet. So Neil Druckmann just wrote up scenes of like, you know Pedro Pascal's character, like Joel's father in the past, which I think is an amazing scene in the know show. Just so awesome. And there's just like things that they do, like a flashbacks that are really cool because they like actually the first flashback of the entire show, which is the very first shot of the show, which is like that talk show.
02:00:46
Speaker
I thought that was really cool about talking about the fungus and how that can like, I just thought that a fake talk show was really, really a neat kind of, it it, it taught us really quickly. It's like, here's the lesson on what this fungus can do and how it really exists in real life. And, Actually, they reference that in weapons in a weird, strange way. yeah The fungus that can control your mind, which is is so interesting. And so it's funny because that exists, which is it's so that's such a great thing about The Last of Us to kind of sidebar. I think that's just such a cool thing. It's so realistic as in a concept of of of what an infection could be from a fungus level. And we're so lucky that that that doesn't exist in our world today. But anyway, um my point I was going to make is
02:01:26
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The Last of Us does this really good in the TV show, in HBO's TV show, where they go back in time. my My thought process was the reason why, and a lot of people, I've talked to people in my my workplace, et cetera, about the God of War TV show. And and a lot of the times it comes up like, well, why aren't they just remaking this from the beginning of the God of War story?
02:01:46
Speaker
Because the God of War story is... in Greek mythology, not Norse. And they're going into Norse mythology right out of the gate. yeah So Kratos is from Greek mythology. So my thought process and what I've been kind of thinking, and I thought this was the case, but now I'm wondering if it's not true, is that they were going to go back into Greek mythology in flashbacks constantly and just kind of do that in a more substantial way. But I'm wondering now because they've – They're focusing so much on the very end of this story that I'm like, I don't.
02:02:14
Speaker
Are they even going to do that? There's an element of like, are they going to go back or even acknowledge the Greek aspect? and If they don't, that's a huge mistake. I agree. Don't acknowledge it at all. It's it's an error, I think. Yeah, you could just not do it. You could just say, oh, we don't need this.
02:02:28
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You know? So. Yeah. yeah think I think they are. And I agree with you. That was my thought process. They're going to have these flashback scenes to develop Kratos' character a little bit more set in the Greek mythology. But yeah it makes sense that they're making this show based on the God of War 2018 and Ragnarok story because one, it's the most popular.
02:02:50
Speaker
I think people liked that the most and myself included. I never really played the original series when I have. The story's not particularly good and Kratos isn't a particularly compelling character in that game. No disrespect to you know the the creator of a David Jaffe. I like his stuff, but I just don't Yeah, yeah i just I just don't think he's a compelling character in that one at all. He's just yelling.
02:03:20
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He's yelling a lot, killing gods. He's a very angry guy. There's not much substance. um Whereas they made him into like a nuanced three-dimensional character in God of War 2018 and Ragnarok.
02:03:31
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and ah ragnarok So I don't know. I'm i'm yeah cautiously optimistic about this show, considering who's attached to it, the casting thus far.
02:03:43
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um i I think this has like a potential to be something really great. I'm just curious how they're going to do the action scenes and like, is it going to look wacky when they do these action scenes? Because there's some.
02:03:55
Speaker
There's some crazy shit that happens, man. Like I think about the opening of God of War 2018 and how wild it is and how they're blasting through stuff. I'm like can you make this look really high budget and cool on ah on a TV show budget? And I understand TV shows, their budgets have skyrocketed in in recent years. But again, i'm i'm are you going to be able to replicate it to that degree?
02:04:19
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on the um Are they able to? The answer is yes. Will they? That's the question. Amazon is known for a few TV shows that are so expensive. And the first one being the Lord of the Rings series. So they've definitely thought about what they should do in terms of paying for things at a massive scale like that. So hopefully they are willing to do that. The thing that kind of I think I'm most worried about it and I don't think anyone's thinking about really like on a large perspective, like the big God of War fans, because no one ever talks about this except for maybe you and i I. feel like we talk about this the most is I love the fact that it's a one or and there's no way it's going to be a one or in my opinion. one of the reasons why that fight scene in the very beginning of the of the game is so interesting, in my opinion, as well, is because it is a one or and it's very visceral. like You feel like you're there because it's so crazy and you're like, whoa, this is insane. The game, of course, is not in third person sorry in first person. It's in third person. You're following essentially a movie. It feels like a movie.
02:05:18
Speaker
Yeah, it's a cinematic. Yeah, it's like a very cool cinematic experience. Yeah. Yeah. That's like, I wish they would do that. I just don't think they have the guts to, or the budget to do that. Cause if you're going to a one or, and do the kind of CG that you're talking about here, the visual effects, I think you're going to, you're going to, you're going to be spending a lot of money and I don't think they're necessarily willing to do it. It's interesting. Cause if you look at the fact that Sony decided to not make horizon, the horizon series, zero dawn and forbidden West, a TV series. It was supposed to be one on Netflix and they then decided to make it a movie. I think that was a budgetary reason, honestly, as like ah a saving grace situation. I think that they were probably, although there was like a controversy with the creator of that, the dude from, wasn't it the dude from like Umbrella umbrella Academy? yeah
02:06:05
Speaker
Right. Yeah. So like, I think that, uh, Yeah, I hope they can do it. I hope they can do like the amount of forced perspective needed. I hope they can make it really look real and cool. I agree with you. it's going to be interesting. I'm curious. I don't know. It could be bad. I mean, anything has the the chance to be bad. I wish it was on HBO just because I feel like it's got the best chance always on HBO.
02:06:26
Speaker
Or Apple TV. If Apple TV took it, I'm like, I'm in. I don't think there's any risk. But even any other streaming service, I'm like, they could be good. It could be bad. It's completely unknown. We don't really know. I'm trying to think, is there any other streaming service that has the kind of quality metrics that Apple and HBO have had?
02:06:43
Speaker
It's cool. I don't think Good for Apple that they can even be on that level, eh? Yeah. it is ah You make a good point, though, because like when you think about it, i think... Amazon has a lot of like relatively popular TV shows, but I don't. Yeah.
02:06:59
Speaker
I'm trying to think. I mean, i guess Fleabag is like. oh yeah. They have some big ones. Amazing quality, but like I don't think they have that. That like cachet um that again, HBO and Apple TV have where it's like, oh an HBO show is coming out.
02:07:14
Speaker
You know, it's probably going to be like hit a specific quality metric. think Amazon's a little bit more spread, out just like Netflix, right? Like where where they they're a little bit more spread out in their. quality yeah You just don't know what you're going to get, but they have like a lot of really good ones. Like I think fallout's really well produced and that's a big budget too. I forgot about fall different.
02:07:36
Speaker
Like it's just different a little bit. I think they, they did the, but it's again, it's high quality, but it's like the night manager um is them as well. I believe they've got a lot of really good ones, but it's like they don't, they also have ones like the wheel of time.
02:07:51
Speaker
You know, people didn't love the Lord of the Rings series, but I think that that budget and what that looks like and how it feels, it feels like Tolkien's works. In my opinion,
Diverse Casting in TV & Film
02:08:01
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I'm not an expert on Tolkien.
02:08:03
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I haven't read all the books. I've read The Hobbit. But there's a black dwarf. That's all right. They're very people. are I think they're freaked out maybe from a woke perspective, more so ah the actual what the content is. I actually quite like it. I think they did a pretty good job of it and it looks and feels really good. I thought I thought that was really I'm quite excited for the third season. In fact, I kind of think of this.
02:08:25
Speaker
Not quite on the same level because the writing is not quite as strong, but in a level of like popcorn TV, like I just love watching it. It just looks so good. It's like a feast for the eyes. Like every time I go into it, I like again, it's like a kind of a midnight snack type situational. You're croissant and just watching like, oh, what's going to happen? Because you don't know exactly going to happen. This is prequel to the Lord of the Rings. So it's it's it's like.
02:08:47
Speaker
many, many years before. So it's it's kind of a cool, it's very fun to watch. And I don't really think that they're really making any missteps that are substantial, but people are very obsessed with race. So I guess that's important to people. It's like the Harry Potter TV show as well, right? It's like they cast on Snape as a black dude and there everyone's like, oh my God, if you wanted to keep it traditional to the books, you wouldn't have casted a black man as Snape. I'm excited about Snape being black just because of the flashbacks with ah Harry Potter's dad bullying the shit out of him.
02:09:19
Speaker
Right. context. That's the funny thing. That's why I found it weird that they did that. Actually, I know that that was the only reason I thought that was strange. I'm like, are you sure? i'm so I don't really care. The thing that we we've said this before on this show and split focus, like the thing that matters in terms of casting, in terms of races, it does the race somehow dictate the character in the previous works or the way that it's written.
02:09:43
Speaker
Like, does it, yeah does it matter? And if it doesn't matter, then it shouldn't matter. Like shouldn't matter to the audience. It doesn't matter that because James Bond was white before, he has to be white every time. If they if they had casted Idris Elba when they rumored it 10 years ago, i would be like, that's badass. I love Idris Elba. You know what I mean? As 007, like James Bond. But they just didn't do it. And so now it's too late because he's little bit too old, I think, because they're going to probably cast a younger Bond. But it's like that's not an issue because his the color of his skin is irrelevant to the character. It just has no relevance. Like, why do they care? i know thiss that
British vs. American Actors
02:10:17
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i don't know.
02:10:18
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it's so stupid. Like for Snape, it's like, who gives a shit? Like, why does this literally doesn't matter? I know it's not described on the page, but what does it have to do with who he is? It's not like there's black people in the UK. I guess like, wait, wait, yeah. What's the issue here? I don't, well, it's also like, i don't know. You think about the Harry Potter movies, like they recast what's, what's that fucking guy.
02:10:40
Speaker
Oh, man, the one character in like the last movie, he's like one of Malfoy's like lackeys or whatever. yeah. Crab. Crab or Goyle. Crab. Yeah. Yeah. Crab and Goyle, one of them. And they recast him. it It was like a larger white dude. And then they recast him in the last movie or two as like ah just a black dude. And it was like, dude, what?
02:10:58
Speaker
yeah like right what So that's an example of where it doesn't work. Yeah. so Don't do that. That's stupid. You should pick somebody that's similar to that guy that you cast initially so that there's yeah a lack of confusion. You don't want to create confusion for the audience, especially because I don't feel like he wasn't really called out by name that often. And when he was, it's like, wait, wait, wait. What? what If anyone paying attention to the rest of the series who'd watched the other movies, but he could have been black from the beginning. Who gives a shit?
02:11:24
Speaker
That's the point is like, what, where would that have mattered? Um, I'm still like blown away that John Lithgow was, was cast as, as like Dumbledore because you just don't see, you just don't see American actors,
02:11:38
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play British people often because they they're just not good enough at the accent, I guess. I don't know what it is. Like British people are always like, look at, um I mean, I'm now I'm blanking on everyone's Dan Stevens.
02:11:51
Speaker
Sure. sure ah Right. He's a British man. Yeah, he is from the UK, I should say. I'm not sure actually where he's from in the UK. But
Harry Potter Series Expectations
02:11:59
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is that we regardless, he's from the UK. And he he's got an accent. He does a really good American accent. There's just just so many British, a like UK actors that are able to do amazing American accents. But then on the flip side, it's just rare to see ah a John Lithgow. Whereas John Lithgow did a great job in The Crown, as an example, as Winston Churchill. And so I guess they they they're like, yeah, this guy can do it. I just love Joan Lithgow. So that casting to me was like, yeah, it's exciting. I'm very excited about the show for the Harry Potter show. I know we mentioned this way earlier in this episode.
02:12:30
Speaker
You were thinking that a lot of people are down on it. Are you talking to a lot of people who are down on it? Like, did you know, or you're just seeing it online as like, ah you just occasionally see it online. Look, I have a buddy that that's like talking shit about the Harry Potter thing i like that. We already had the movies. It's already good. don't know if he's kind of rage baiting, but I'm like man, you're intelligent. Your opinion. I disagree. I'm i'm always cool with something.
02:12:53
Speaker
Oh, my God. like Yeah, I'm good with it. It's been enough time. It was years ago at this point. i'm I'm okay with As long as they do a good job and they really try to dive into the stories in a deeper level, because if you're not going to do that, then why you even bothering making a TV show? The fact that it's a different medium, I think, is the most interesting thing. If they were making movies again, I'd be less interested.
02:13:12
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agree. think it's because it's a TV show that makes it way more interesting. Yeah, you can expand on it like over the course of –
02:13:20
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you know, book into an eight hour series or ten hour series, depending on how how many episodes you do, as opposed to like a brisk, you know, two hour movie where you're trying to put in a lot of content.
02:13:31
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And we talked about this before. This is also we're really refreshing. And I feel like it hope I hope it moves the industry forward from the TV angle in that they are on a time crunch. These kids are going to grow old and they need to have them do like act in these seasons before they're too old. And so that means that we're probably going to get these seasons of the Harry Potter show on a brisk pace, probably like Slow Horse's pace, which, by the way, Slow Horse's only has six episodes per season. But at the very least, they release one season per year at the least, which is a much faster pace than most HBO shows are running right now.
02:14:05
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And so i'm I'm very excited to see this actually come out in, you know, less than a year a time. ah You don't have to wait more than a year for per season. If they don't do that,
02:14:17
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I'm like, you guys are out to lunch because you can't. These kids are going to look like the Stranger Things kids at the end. Like plump lips, you know? like don't know. It's a little bit distracting. You didn't have to do that. I know there was a writer's strike. It caused issues, but it's just.
02:14:34
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Yeah. just Anyway. fuller Okay. I mean, I'm excited about the God of War series. That was what we were talking about. I am. Yeah. I forgot. That's what we we're talking about. i agree. I try to be optimistic, man. I try to be cautiously optimistic. yeah Yeah, I'm excited. And I really hope they do the flashbacks. And I really hope they cast Jeremy Davies. That's my last my last word about it. but Cool. Okay.
02:14:52
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Last thing to talk about in terms of the trilogy of news, Adrian. Longtime Star Wars producer Kathleen Kennedy has stepped down from, speaking of rage baiting, has stepped down from the helm. as president of Lucasfilm with Clone Wars creator Dave Filoni taking over as chief creative officer and Linwen Brennan taking over on the business side.
02:15:14
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I don't care too much about the business side. Good luck to Linwen Brennan. Shout out to Linwen Brennan taking over the business side. Shout out to Linwen Brennan. Great name. That's a quality name, dude. That's a quality name of a man or a woman.
02:15:28
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It's a woman. It's
Lucasfilm Leadership Changes
02:15:29
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a woman. Anyway. I'm sorry. But anyway, um cool name. i Actually, i'm not I'm not being facetious. I do think it's cool. ah But Kathleen Kennedy writes stepping down. There's a funny story about this, actually. So I've worked in like Field as a brand rep for a while, and I was talking to some guy at a a retail store, and he was very, very...
02:15:49
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Very, very negative about the current state of Star Wars. But the thing he the thing he fixated on specifically was Kathleen Kennedy. And I kid you not, it was two years ago, like today, and he said to me, Kathleen Kennedy, mark my words, Kathleen Kennedy will step down in six months.
02:16:07
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And I said, I remind her my phone for six months from the day in front of him. I'm like, I don't think that's true, buddy. But now she stepped down. So there is that. Yeah, I guess he he was. Didn't they announce this like months ago, though, as well? I feel like we talked about her stepping down.
02:16:23
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She was planning on it. Yeah, she was just like – I think it was rumored that she was planning on doing it. and Yeah, but I don't think she's doing it because of the – he was saying was stepping down because of the controversy because Lucasfilm was in bad shape or some shit. It's like, no, and don't I don't know. They're very, very, very risk-averse right now.
02:16:41
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So that's that's a negative of what they're they've been up to. Yeah. But I don't know. I think Kathleen Kennedy – But like, I feel like they are, but like, i mean, and or is was kind of a risky project. I mean, I was super negative on it prior to its release. yeah I don't give a shit about this fucking character that was in a prequel. Now we're doing a prequel to a prequel. And then it's like they have a big budget on it. Again, amazing creator and.
02:17:05
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they they were willing to deal with topics that are incredibly mature for Star Wars and have have created something remarkable. But yeah, I do agree with you from a from a high level view, apart from, i guess, Andor specifically, it is it is fairly risk averse.
02:17:22
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um it's It's interesting you mentioned Andor. That's such a great example. It's so funny because they're risk averse more so about movies, actually, but because they don't want to spend the money on the movies. But Andor was so expensive, as as shown by like, I can't remember how how that reporting came out, but it was like so much money to make. And it was like more expensive than the average, like overall than the average movie, certainly. But they haven't been since Solo failed, basically. And Rise of Skywalker didn't do maybe as hot as they wanted it to do. They've been scared. But oh, no, Rise Skywalker still did pretty well. Still made a billion, didn't it? It made a lot, actually. That's maybe not the best example. Solo was, like I think, the example because they stopped the Star Wars story type thing.
02:18:02
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Although I guess Mandalorian and Grogu is a Star Wars story anyway. But but yeah Yeah, but it's also like a sequel to like a popular TV franchise, like a TV series. So very risk averse. So it's kind of interesting. They're scared a little bit of making a movie that isn't, especially in like a Skywalker saga because their next planned the situation is with Simon Kinberg and they're going to do a Skywalker saga. So that's cool. Very, very great. Everyone loves Simon Kinberg.
02:18:33
Speaker
It's got a cool name. His name is Simon. Other than that, I hate that flag name. I think it's a dumb name. wow Well, yeah, I don't know, man. So yeah, I'm, but yeah, actually what I was going to say, I thought you were about to say is that she hasn't done a bad job in my opinion.
02:18:51
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I think that actually she largely did an okay job. I think there was problems with the marketing and I think Solo is a great example. You mentioned this earlier. They put it too close to the last Jedi and it caused an issue. You're completely correct. It was, after the last Jedi rise of Skywalker. don't know why got that confused. Um, but yeah, that was like, that was an issue that they, they made that mistake and they didn't seem to take a lesson from that and learned how to, to kind of do this, um, appropriately. Cause now, I mean, they're coming back with the, um,
02:19:21
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ah Levy. What's his name? Whatever. Sean Gosling project. Sean. Sean Levy, Ryan Gosling project, which is also kind of a Star Wars story that's not related to the Skywalker saga, I think. yeah um So i'm I'm very excited about that. I feel like the screen like the screen grab of that was really cool. The black and white one. I thought that looked really awesome. So i I don't know. They're just kind of, it's been hit and miss, I feel like, under Kathleen Kennedy. But largely it was good. The worst thing that she did was the fact that her Skywalker saga, it feels like to me, this is what I think.
02:19:51
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there's actually not enough studio meddling. i know that might seem strange, but it seems like she didn't have any kind of idea or plan to to like make them rein in ah an overarching storyline.
02:20:04
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I think that that was an issue. And that's kind of what I got the as a vibe. She kind of gave good creators that, you know, creators who are potentially, except for Simon Kimber, he' like She gave them the reins and then they... She was like, run with it. Do what you want. She gave Rian Johnson the reins. pretty cool. He made a Looper. She's like, yeah, you can do this.
02:20:24
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like He made Looper. It was like the most substantial movie he made. That's it. That's not that crazy. It's pretty cool. Bruce Willis was great in it, but not freaking...
02:20:33
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I don't know. It's not. Well, I don't know what a good example is, because actually that's like what Marvel did um back in the day with even Jon Favreau. But um yeah, I don't know. it's ah It's interesting because she she's like she trusted her creators in a large way, but almost too much. Like she didn't think that it was smart to create again the Charlie Day with the red string.
02:20:52
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just have somebody be the map maker who understood yeah where the the franchise was going in ah in a very cohesive way. And I think that's why they They already promoted Filoni in a deeper role before this.
02:21:06
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He's already kind of in the role that he's called now. He's like the chief creative officer. I think he was already kind of doing that, but now he's just got more responsibility and more pay, um but a step up from where he was.
02:21:19
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yeah But yeah, anyway, i don't know if you have any thoughts on this, but I'm kind of excited about this, but i have no I'm not excited that she's stepping down. It's irrelevant to me. I think it's the same shit because Simon Kinberg's still hired. Anyway. Yeah, I don't know. I'm kind of like whatever. i like I don't think a single person's to blame with how how awry the franchise is. And I think it's kind of foolish to assume that it's like, you know, one person. um Yeah, I think, you know, if if someone's going to take the reins, I guess arguably Dave Filoni is a good choice because he is.
02:21:46
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um Shepard in a lot of the, yeah, like he he loves Star Wars. He's essentially like George Lucas is like protege in a lot of ways, like knows the universe inside and out and, you know has a lot of respect for the original trilogy, but is also willing to, you know, take it to the next level. And then with him and his relationship with Jon Favreau, that's how we got, you know,
02:22:05
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some really good TV with like the Mandalorian and then people swear um about like the Clone Wars and everything like that too. And mind you, Kathleen Kennedy was all there during this entire process as well. It's again, like people like picking and choosing and like, I'm going to blame Kathleen Kennedy for everything bad, but not give her any credit for the, you know, good stuff that's also come out under her. There's also an element of that. She's a woman. I feel like got to say, I think it's something. that I'm sure I'm sure it plays a factor.
02:22:33
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um because the star Wars is very dudes, dudes being fans. You know what i mean? Like it's not like there's a toxic fan base there. And I don't think it's the women as much. Yeah. coming to the table. I don't know. It's just, it's been hit and miss. I would say that I'm hoping that they can kind of rein it in a little bit better and try to fix it. But she also green, she was ready to green, let the Adam driver, Steven Soderberg thing. And she completely, that was studio meddling. It wasn't her meddling. She didn't meddle with it. They literally like Bob Iger nixed it, nixed the project, the Steven Soderberg sequel project with Ben Solo.
02:23:08
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I was like, okay. So she knew what was up and they like her, because I think she's just not, that's not her role. She was never in, in it on that creative level. That was my argument to the guy who claimed in six months, she's going to be gone. I'm like, I don't think she's involved as, as involved as you think like that trilogy. Like I think honestly, the one who was the most to blame is literally JJ Abrams. I really do think that because he had the path, he started it on that path and then they didn't have a steward.
02:23:37
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For the actual creative process, she was just kind of producing from a business level, I feel like. But yeah anyway, I don't know. I don't know. we We're not in the room. I just don't. I think it's bullshit to blame her. was in the room.
02:23:50
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i just paying attention. Except for hiring Simon Kinberg. That I do blame her. That was the only recently, though, and I don't understand how anyone could do that. That guy's got something on someone for sure. I don't know what's going on. He knows was on Epstein's Island. Yeah.
02:24:02
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i maybe but i don't know it's I don't know. Maybe. I mean, he's not. He hasn't got the worst track record. he's Not everything he's made has been bad, but I'm in. yes Yeah.
02:24:13
Speaker
Okay. So we move on to trailers, sir. um Yeah. I mean, I mean, to like kind of jump right into this, um because we're already talking about Star Wars. They released like a new Star Wars animated series trailer for the Darth Maul show.
02:24:27
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Yeah. um Something dark Darth Maul in the in in the in the mall. Darth Maul in a mall. Star Wars Maul Shadow alert Lord. I had out my other notes, but not the actual. Again.
02:24:40
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Yeah, it's like a Dave Filoni project. it's It's interesting. I feel like they like Dave Filoni essentially took Darth Maul and made him into a far more impactful character over the course of many, many years, which is interesting. Yeah.
02:24:55
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And I mean, like, it's it's just interesting that they keep on going back to him. I guess there's a lot that you can kind of fill in.
CGI Quality & He-Man Concerns
02:25:02
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um Yeah. But I don't know. I'm not really interested in it. i'm I've never been so into Star Wars that I was like watching the animated stuff um really that much. Like I watched some of the Clone Wars and everything, but I didn't watch like the Bad Batch as an example, which was more recent or the. um There's another one I thought. Rebels.
02:25:22
Speaker
Rebels. Yeah, which I didn't watch. So I don't know. I'm curious. um Will I watch it? Probably not. But hey, it's something. Yeah, it's interesting. I like the animation quite a bit watching that trailer. I'm like, this is, this appeals to me.
02:25:35
Speaker
There's something about the way it's animated. It's kind of unique. It's unique to Clone Wars 2 and Rebels. I feel like it's kind of, I feel like evolution of what those shows were, but it does look cool.
02:25:47
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um ye I'm probably not going to watch it either. It's just too much content for me. It's just too much to to absorb. I feel like that's the issue and that's kind of why I'm probably not going to. Dabbling. But yeah, for other things, other trailers that got released in the last two weeks, Lee Cronin's The Mummy, Fantastic Four Black Panther Doomsday trailer, which you sent me, a Euphoria season three trailer. And I'm like, do I want to watch this? And then Masters of the Universe, ah like the Masters of the Universe trailer, like the teaser trailer that just announced or released today. That Master of the Universe trailer teaser, i I recently saw something from, think Gore Verbinski, the director of Pirates of the Caribbean, where he was talking about how the one of the reasons why, this is a crazy thing, one of the reasons why c CG looks worse now than before is because they're using Unreal Engine.
02:26:36
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Oh. That's his claim, that they're not using Maya anymore which like for 3D modeling. They're using, like because it's a shortcut to use Unreal because of the way that he uses assets, and it's just a faster process. And because of like the uncanny valley valley aspect of it,
02:26:52
Speaker
Because video games are what use Unreal Engine most often. it's an It's an engine for video games. You don't have to worry about the like the uncanny value as much because we're as gamers, we know it's CG right of the way right right away. But in a movie, when it's live action actors, you have to ah you have to believe that it's actually a real person. And so his claim is that because of all the Unreal Engine, it doesn't look good The reason I'm bringing this up is the Masters of the Universe, the worst thing about that trailer is I think the CG isn't that good.
02:27:20
Speaker
I'm not, I don't, it doesn't look that realistic. it It looks like a video game more so than I think it should. I'm like, that I just thought about that because I just read the Gore Verbinski quote and I was like, oh, okay, well, here's an example. I don't get turned off too much by bad or worse CG, but people keep pointing it out over the last couple years that like Marvel CG has gotten worse. And like, they keep looking at like,
02:27:43
Speaker
examples of cg from 20 years ago or like 10 years ago where it's it's kind of almost better than today but using miniatures like star wars did to make the ships fly in space it's just i feel like practical effects are always kind of better but he was using maya as an example as a program that was more effective at creating realistic cg than than that anyway are you have any thoughts on masters of the universe i don't think you had any connection as a kid you were too young but No, no. Yeah, no connection to this. i when i i did watch this trailer, though, and i was like sitting there. i'm like, is this going to do well? Like, I don't see any appeal in this it in in this universe. Honestly, I was watching. I'm like, this kind of looks like Thor in a lot of ways.
02:28:24
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um like i feel like the guy's not big enough. Yeah, like it looks like it's Asgard. Yeah, I know. The guy doesn't seem like super jacked or anything. Like, i don't know. He's jacked, but... my My knowledge of He-Man is the meme. He's a clown.
02:28:38
Speaker
Oh, I see. it's like yeah It's like the meme when he's like singing. Yeah, you know for non-blondes. That's exactly right. So it's like, is this going to be the connection that people make? I said to my brother, though, because he had He-Man toys and he like played with them as a kid.
02:28:50
Speaker
So like that was his that was the thing. He liked Skeletor and all that. But like the this... I don't know. It's funny. He-Man's a clown. He's a freaking clown. He's a very beefy beefy boy. You know what I mean? And this guy is not that...
02:29:04
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there's like Captain America size or something. It's like, I don't know if this is a I don't think he's buff enough for this. He needs to be freaking Arnold Schwarzenegger level, like levellike size, like Arnold Schwarzenegger peak bodybuilder. Yeah. And it is also like, it's just like the, i don't know. This just seems like boring in a lot of ways. It's like another origin story. Like, let's like see how he man was made. I'm like, brother, i don't give fuck.
02:29:28
Speaker
fuck about how he man was made. And again, you have like all these people that again, probably an older crowd that likes he man. It's like they already know he man. Like why wouldn't you just have a have a prebuilt universe and just kind of go with it? I don't know. Nah, don't know about that.
02:29:42
Speaker
It just it just doesn't seem that funny to me personally. I don't like origin stories when you when you keep doing them over and over again. So like I like that they did
Previews & Teasers: Spoiler Concerns
02:29:51
Speaker
Spider-Man Homecoming and didn't do the origin story again. Yeah, like that's kind of a cool thing. But if you haven't done it for 30 years,
02:29:58
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And never done it in live action at all. I'm like, god I don't care. but I'm not sure it would have mattered if you did a if you did it like if you did any kind of origin story. Plus, I don't think that's the origin story. He's not stuck in a different universe. This is like this's almost like the movie Barbie. I don't think that's the story of He-Man.
02:30:13
Speaker
Is it my crazy? I no idea, dude. Again, my yeah knowledge of E-Man is it's the place's attorney, I think. But they they're in attorney right from the beginning of the show. I don't think they're in like the real world and they're like he pulled out like it's like it's like an isekai.
02:30:28
Speaker
Is this like the story of Hook or something? Is that what they're doing? Like you ever watch? I love that movie. You never you never seen Hook at all? I must have on like Teleteen. I feel like it played on Teleteen when I was a kid. I but i never I never owned it.
02:30:42
Speaker
I love it. It's reviewed very badly. So I don i don't want to watch it again. i think it's awesome. I think Robin Williams was great in it. Dustin Hoffman's in it. His hook is pretty cool. I like But anyway. Okay. Anything else here?
02:30:54
Speaker
Fantastic Four Black Panther Doomsday. Eventually, we're just going to see the whole movie. That's what you sent sent me in an Instagram message. like All these teasers. like We're going to see every meetup that was possible in this movie before we actually see the film in December. If
Upcoming Releases & New Projects
02:31:06
Speaker
we if you have to keep this pace up, it's its like, i know how how long is this movie? Yeah, it's it's kind of ridiculous, but my theory is correct about like this is built for the average person that maybe fell out of like the Marvel Universe and stuff because talking to my buddies, um a lot of them were like, man, I'm super excited about this. This looks great. I'm i'm stoked about seeing these characters or whatever. I'm like, OK, yeah, so it's not for like you and I that have stuck with the universe and like like surprises.
02:31:33
Speaker
Right. so I guess. Yeah, I don't know. But I mean, when they watch it and then there is no surprises, don't you think it's possible that they'll also just think it as negative at that point? Probably. That's the problem.
02:31:45
Speaker
So we'll see. We'll see. Maybe they got more surprises up their sleeves or maybe they're just going to reveal them and then in the months prior to the film because there's so many months. We talked about this last time, but like how many teasers can you do for this? Like 12 months in advance. It's so many months away. Like you're a crazy guy. Like Spider-Man, still no trailer.
02:32:03
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No Spider-Man trailer for the July release of Spider-Man, um whatever it's called. Home, home time. Home time is now. Home, home way.
02:32:14
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but but There's no home in this one, is there? Brand new day. Brand new home. Brand new. Yeah, it should have been brand new. home friends That should have been brand new home. What would they think? No, the the home the home trilogy, I think is what they called it.
02:32:27
Speaker
That's the John Watts home trilogy. Anyway, anything else? Anything else you want to talk about? Oh, Euphoria season three. I never watched season come two. I'll get around to it. I'll watch it. Dude, I watched the Euphoria season three trailer and I was like, do I want to watch this this show from season three?
02:32:43
Speaker
Do you watch season two? No, i didn't watch season one. i am. I'm turned off by the fact that these like there's like nudity and there's supposed be high schoolers. It just it turns me off. I just don't like this idea. I think it's silly and it's a little bit creepy and I just don't want. That's why I kind of didn't watch it. I know it's awesome, but it's like and people talk about it being so highly regarded. It's cool. Yeah.
02:33:04
Speaker
It's just there's an element of that that kind of turns me off. But this is not in high school anymore. they They're in college. They're adults now. Yeah, they're like out in the world. So i'm like, oh, this is kind of cool. And it's like a crime drama. It looks pretty cool. An actual crime drama with like a younger younger people. It's like that sounds cool to me. like that This is the most appealing that Euphoria has ever been for me personally. personally But hey.
02:33:29
Speaker
Fair enough. Yeah, i've i' haven't watched the trailer. i I'll get around to it. I got to finish season two and I'll go back to it. I like the first season. I thought it was pretty great. It was very skins oriented. Like it reminded me a lot of skins. um I watched skins when I was a teen myself.
02:33:44
Speaker
So like, I don't know, it was like that perfect time. um And yeah, again, like, yeah, there's nudity, but then again, it's like all the actors are in their twenties. So you're just kind of like, you just gotta accept it. You just gotta accept it. Well, otherwise it wouldn't be allowed. Yeah. That would be not good. That is true. Then it would be child pornography. It would be arrests made. Yeah. Touche. Yeah.
02:34:06
Speaker
uh okay and then i watched the lee cronin's like the mummy trailer this is interesting so lee cronin most recently he did evil dead rise which fucking slapped so i'm i'm intrigued about this this is also weird because this is like the the mummy like tom cruise the mummy brendan fraser the mummy but it's a a reboot in its own universe the mummy correct and they're making a brendan fraser the mummy Soon.
02:34:34
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Sequel to the original Brendan Fraser. The mummies. That's what threw me off. And I was going to ask you about this from a perspective of you being more of a a horror guru a little bit.
02:34:44
Speaker
But you don't seem to know because you look like you're looking at me and asking. Were you asking me or you're telling me? Yeah, no, I was asking. Yeah, I was like, is this is this? don't know. Is this the same? I think it's not the same universe. Like, was the Tom Cruise movie in the same universe as the Brendan Fraser movies? No, I think it was supposed to start a new universe. Like a new dark universe. Yeah, that's what this is. I think they were like, we're going to make a horror version of this franchise. But is The Mummy based on something else, like a book?
02:35:11
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It's probably like an old tale. Is The Mummy horror movie based on anything? We're to find out. We're going to find out right now.
02:35:23
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Yes, the mummy horror movie French is primarily based on a blend of real ancient Egyptians. Obviously, it's based on Egypt, you piece of shit. it is not No, it doesn't look like Wait, hold on.
02:35:36
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The Mummy 1932, which established the archetype, was largely inspired by the... Oh, there's a movie from the 1932. Oh, there you go. I didn't know that. From the 1932.
02:35:47
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so Okay, so The Mummy in 1999 with Brendan Fraser is a is based upon the 1932 film. It's loosely a remake. Like ah reimagined as a swashbuckling action adventure.
02:36:01
Speaker
Oh, cool. Oh, interesting. So like they're kind of reimagining that again, maybe the Lee Cronin. Interesting. Cool. Okay. I'm into this, though. It looks good. I'm not i'm not denying It looks pretty darn good.
02:36:15
Speaker
I'm intrigued. And again, i like Evil Dead Rise. I thought that movie was awesome. so Yeah, cool. All right. Okay. Now on to a segment of our show, Adrian, that I like to call A Look to the Future.
02:36:29
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portion of our podcast where each of us present at least three of our picks for the TV series or movies that look most interesting to us that are releasing between the dates of January 27th and February 9th, 2026.
02:36:40
Speaker
All right. I'll let you go first. As is customary, what do you pick, sir? Oh, Simon, what do I pick, my friend? So I got a couple of things. But the first thing I'm going pick is releasing on January 28th. It's the third season of an Apple TV Plus show called Shrinking. I'm very excited about this. I've seen a lot of ads on this um on Crave, funnily enough, watching the pit because I got Crave Basic for free with my mobile subscription.
02:37:07
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It's crazy, eh? Like you see yeah ads for a different streaming service on a streaming service. Like it's funny that they allow that. Yeah. it's a lot You see a lot of Disney Plus ads as well, which is interesting on there.
02:37:19
Speaker
There is a deal between Crave and Disney though. Exactly. You were about to say that, sorry. Yeah. Which makes a little bit more sense, but yeah, I don't think there's an Apple TV Plus like pairing deal or nothing. So I don't know. Whatever. Interesting.
02:37:31
Speaker
But very excited. I can't wait for for this. Yeah. It's so feel good. It's so wholesome. There's like, I went back and I watched a clip. I don't know where I got that clip from. Maybe it was like Apple, Apple TV, some social channel, but they, they watched, they, they put the clip of Harrison Ford at that party.
02:37:48
Speaker
I'm like, that's a fricking, that's a banger clip. Yeah. He's like killing it. That the finale of season two, wasn't it? I think it was the finale. Yeah. It's just amazing. And then there's been a lot of like little clips so between, um,
02:38:02
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Oh, my God, I don't know any anyone's name right now. ah ah Jason Siegel's a character and oh, ah gold ah Goldberg Goldstein. go see bret Goldstein.
02:38:14
Speaker
Yeah, Brett. Yeah. How did I forget that? Jesus, my brain broke easy. It's easy to forget. But yeah, Brett Goldstein. So good. Dude, he's very good. He's a very good character in this show.
02:38:25
Speaker
It's very interesting. A very interesting dynamic. It's it's awesome. I'm so curious to see where they go with this. and do they They didn't say it's only three seasons or only four seasons. like Ted Lasso was ending after a third season. did they Did they say anything on a concrete basis? I don't remember.
02:38:41
Speaker
No, I don't think so. Okay. I hope it doesn't end soon because it's awesome. Okay. My first pick here is on January 29th, they go in chronological order. Adrian is a Netflix series that's hitting season four, incredibly popular series made by Shonda Rhimes. Bridgerton season four airs on January 29th on Netflix. I know you love Bridgerton.
02:39:03
Speaker
I know much love it so much. yeah Yeah. They build so many amazing bridges on there. that show. Yeah, the the architects, the engineers, the architectural engineers. In fact, they're so good at it that they built a town out of it.
02:39:18
Speaker
Yeah, to take the town of town out of the bridges. Yeah, major your town. Bridger town.
02:39:26
Speaker
Wow. Good stuff. Good stuff. Good show. Wait, I think we just found our title. yeah ah Bridgertown. Wow, our titles are great. It's the greatest greatest titles and the the greatest clickbaity titles anyone has ever seen. All right, Adrian, it's your your pick. What's up? Let's keep it in chronological order. Coming out on January thirtieth is the new Sam Raimi movie.
02:39:53
Speaker
We missed one already for for January, so we're going to have to go back in time. But yeah, Sam Raimi movie called- I don't want to. We're moving forward now. It's a new Sam Raimi movie with Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien called Send Help, which seems just like a fun time, dude. This seems like a yeah good freaking movie, like right up my alley. I'm in the mood for this.
02:40:14
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, you know, Rachel McAdams, she's down on her luck. She's, she's Dylan O'Brien's assistant. He's a young buck running a business and he's her her boss and he's a meanie bobeanie. And then they crash land on an Island yeah and he's not her boss anymore.
02:40:32
Speaker
No, no, no. He's a little weakling. Yeah. Yeah. The laws of the jungle. I'm going to put leg from a blank wrench. I'm so poor. Okay.
02:40:44
Speaker
All right. Yeah, that's exciting. That's a good one. um My next pick is ah almost the exact same plot. And it stars Charlie XCX. And it's called The Moment.
02:40:56
Speaker
Yes. It also comes out on January 30th, the same same date. No, this is like a... I thought this was February 6th. Isn't it? Wait, what? That's what have it on January 30th. What the hell? What the hell? Am I wrong?
02:41:09
Speaker
Am I wrong? I don't know. Maybe it's a wide release. and According to Google, it's January 30th. I got it from the Cineplex app and the Cineplex app said February 6th.
02:41:21
Speaker
Anyway, this is kind of cool because it's like a mockumentary. I think it's very like it's got actors in it like Rachel Sennett and Alexander Skarsgård, but they're playing characters. But Charlie XCX is playing herself and it's about her being on tour, I believe.
02:41:35
Speaker
It's kind of a neat kind of meta type of type of situation. Kind of cool. Kind of cool idea. Yeah, hopefully it's ah hopefully's good. I guess I'm not going to probably see it, but it's cool. It's interesting. I might watch it.
02:41:48
Speaker
Yeah, I might watch it just cause my um my wife she she's a fan of charlie oh yeah she is interesting yeah okay yeah that's cool i mean she says she has a couple bangers something yeah your wife yeah brat summer dude i was there i was there for brat summer honestly that album slapped there's some bangers on there i'm not even denying it take your word for it
02:42:14
Speaker
thanks you're welcome are you gonna say your next pick Yeah, so the next pick I'm going to choose is a
02:42:26
Speaker
you know coming out on February 6th as well, or in future. Or not. yeah um But it is coming out on February 6th. It's The Strangers Chapter 3, Simon, which is a sequel that a Strangers Chapter 2, which was a sequel to Strangers Chapter 1.
02:42:42
Speaker
I didn't watch the second chapter. The first one was really bad. It was a bad movie. It was absurd. But hey, I'm going to watch the second and third one. Why the fuck not? They're pumping these out, eh?
02:42:54
Speaker
They're pumping it out. Madeline Perch. she's She's starring in them. she's She's starring in these movies. Yeah. Along with other people. is.
02:43:09
Speaker
Okay, I got two more. One is Pillion, which I felt like... come Oh, sorry. That's after. That's that's the 14th or the 13th, I thought. February 6th. You got like earlier dates than I do. Limited release. get it off Cineplex's website. I don't use Cineplex. I just use something that's a secret and I'm not going to tell you but I think this is a limited release.
02:43:29
Speaker
Okay. Oh, okay. I'll hold off on this. and I won't say this one. Fine. Pillian is not coming out yet. It's weird. I thought pillian came out. That's what I was going to say. Me too. No, it hasn't come out at all. Me too. Like, okay. okay Incredibly well rated, dude. It's because it was at, um, it was at like, i don't know, TIFF or some shit. It was at like one of those movie, um, events. And yeah, it's like, it's a hundred percent on Rotten Tomatoes with 69 reviews.
02:43:51
Speaker
Yeah. It's interesting. I think it got nominated for like best romance movie or some shit. didn' alexand Yeah, which is strange because again, such a delay of it actually releasing. I thought it would have come out limited, but now I've given you February six and you're saying it's some other time. So I feel like that is the limited release. Anyway, Alexander Scarsgård and Harry Melling star in this love story.
02:44:11
Speaker
But yeah, cool. All right. The other one. You have another one actually? back forth for a sec. Yeah, got I got um Jason Statham's shelter movie, The Shelter Man, coming out on January 30th. Yeah. He runs a shelter.
02:44:29
Speaker
I don't think he does. right it's called Oh, it's called Shelter, man. Okay. But it is called Shelter. Is he running a shelter then? So he does have a job again. He is employed somehow.
02:44:39
Speaker
Yeah, he's always employed. He's always employed, but he's not he's not usually employed as like an assassin or like a bodyguard. He's always employed as some other job, like the beekeeper.
02:44:51
Speaker
Or the transporter. The worker. The construction man. The working man. No, it's literally a movie called The Working Man. right Yeah, The Working Man. It's not even a lie. The newspaper delivery driver.
02:45:02
Speaker
yeah basically. He's just like riding a bike and throwing news. That would be amazing. They should make it they should make him do that. The milk man. Yeah, it's like in the nineteen thirty s yeah that The Bridgertown builder. that bridge Yeah. he' says He's the architect of the bridges in the Bridgertown.
02:45:22
Speaker
All right. yeah Cool. Great. We missed one. We're going to go back in time now to January 27th, Adrian. That was a back in time sound effect. It was amazing. That's really good.
02:45:33
Speaker
Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Okay. Wonder Man. Speaking of men. Oh. Wonder Man. yeah is Also starring Jason Statham. Yeah, that would be cool. Jason Satham should be in the MCU in like a weird minor role like Ben Kingsley. But yeah, Yaya Mateen II, Disney Plus, he plays an actor who apparently has some kind of powers that are undisclosed in the trailer. It should be cool.
02:45:58
Speaker
I just really like that Ben Kingsley is in the MCU and every time he shows up, he kind of steals the spotlight. I feel like even in Shang-Chi, killed it. Really great. So I'm excited about this.
02:46:09
Speaker
I am curious to see if it does well. They held onto this for a long time. Apparently this was like done like two years ago or something like it was finished and in the can and they never released it, but I'm hoping that it's good.
02:46:21
Speaker
And I'm just about to kind of resubscribe to Disney plus. So it might be just in time for this if it is good, but we'll see. I'm not fan of week to week. I haven't watched fallout specifically because of week to week. I would have already watched it because I i am kind of hyped about it because I really like Justin Theroux actually. and everything he's in and i like the fall of season one so it's cool justin throw i think he's playing andrew house so it's it's cool i'm excited to see how that show goes but it's week to week and it's not finished so i will eventually anything
Podcast Wrap-Up
02:46:50
Speaker
else you want to say before we move on you've gotten up like 15 times i know my cat's being absurd he's being a a crazy cat okay okay okay all right he's being a crazy guy there's probably gonna be a bunch of taking like three phone calls i gotta edit here you You've gotten up in the last hour, I swear to God, seven times.
02:47:11
Speaker
Actually, if I'm going to swear to God, I should be more accurate. It was a five. It was a lot. It was a lot. My cat's being absurd, man. i got my My wife's not here, so she can't take care of their burr cat. He's high maintenance, okay?
02:47:23
Speaker
I see. I see. yeah Well, this is it. We've done it. We're incredible. we've We've done episode 128. How do you feel? 128 episodes.
02:47:35
Speaker
I feel incredible, dude. That's nice. I feel like I could build a town out of bridges, baby. I feel like I could do the whole thing. That's a lot. I don't know. I'm not sure you can. It would be a lot. Manage that. But anyway, that's it pretty much. So I guess we should wrap this up. Anything you want to say before I close the show with the final statement, Adrian? No. Okay. Okay. Thank you for listening to episode 128 of Split Focus, a film and TV podcast. My name is Simon Eadie.
02:48:01
Speaker
And it has been a pleasure to host you alongside my delightful businessman, Adrian Pinter. Please join us on February 10th for episode 129. Good evening to you and good luck. Well, thanks. See you later, guys.
02:48:15
Speaker
Thanks so much for watching. Wow. Goodbye. Thanks so much for listening, actually, because you didn't watch shit. You can't see us. you can't You can't even see us.
02:48:27
Speaker
It's true. Goodbye. Take care.