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Games of 2007
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In this episode, Adam and Fraser (Satsunami) take a look to the past to discuss the iconic age of gaming that was 2007.
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Introduction and Hosts Banter
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Welcome to Chatsunami.
00:00:17
Speaker
Hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of Chatsunami. I'm Adam, and joining me is the icon, the Great One, the champ himself, Satsunami. And I promise I'm not just saying that because he's letting me host this week's episode. Satsunami, welcome.
00:00:35
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Oh, you're too kind. Aren't I just? I didn't tell you to stop. I think the ages ago when there was three, I was like, I was like, the great, yes you liked the great one. I was like, the man? No, no, no, that's not, that's not, that's not crazy enough. That's not brandoozing enough.
00:00:59
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Yes, I know what I'm getting you for Christmas now. I'll just be here like this on. It's been like, for me! And it's all the bad pages ripped out.
00:01:10
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that every great co-host needs. Yes. Yeah, oh my god, can you imagine if you did get someone like, in real life, like, you know, like someone who's like, here's a thesaurus to compliment me and you're like, ha ha ha. It's like, no, no, I'm serious. It's like, I don't pay you for compliments. It's like, I don't pay you at all. It's like the Jeff Bezos special gift. Straight to space.
Adam's Passionate Hosting
00:01:38
Speaker
So you might be wondering why I'm sitting in the driver's seat this week. Don't worry, I assure you this is purely a temporary event and Satsunami's going to be back where he belongs next week. So basically I was very keen to talk about today's topic and so I thought it was only fair that I take the brunt of the work on this one. And so I just wanted to say like, thank you Satsui so much for letting me take the reins and I promise not to crash the car and I won't leave a scratch on it. I might adjust the seat though. Yeah, I was going to say this, I'm really squished against the driver's seat here. I'm like,
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What have you done? It's alright, we're nearly there. Are we there yet? Nah, I'm only kidding. And I'll see just this. Thank you forward for taking the lead on this one. Because yeah, I know this is definitely a topic that you are passionate about. And yeah, just want to apologise again for being late on this one as well. So, apologies for that.
00:02:28
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you know some things are worth waiting for that's true well we're just building the hype you know and don't worry this time it wasn't because like some hello fresh man or like someone selling insurance or something came to the door oh no no no no this time damn it i'm gonna have to get rid of my section of who's at chat who's at satsunami's door
00:02:51
Speaker
Well, technically, no one came to my door. Well, someone did technically, but I was actually at somebody else's door. Well, straight, technically. Yes, I was at a movie set. I took a wrong turn, so that's why I'm late, so I apologise. So you're an extra now. You're an unintentional extra now in a major motion picture to be released.
00:03:10
Speaker
Yes, well, that's what they keep saying. That's where they're filming Indiana Jones. Five. Curse of the Weirrabbit. But I don't know. I didn't see Harrison Ford, but I did see someone who looked vaguely like him. Oh my goodness. It's confirmed. Yeah, cos that's what somebody said. They were like, oh, is that Harrison Ford's stunt double? And you looked at the guy and you're like, that's the kind of guy you'd squint your eyes at and go, is that Harrison Ford? And you'd be like, nah. He doesn't look angry enough. Like Indiana Bones, maybe.
00:03:41
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Sorry, sorry, that was a complete sight tangent, I'm going to hand it back to you. I'm sorry, I'm sorry for deario. We need this colour, we need this flavour. So yeah. It's all just a life. Yeah, so like, long story short, nobody came to my door this time instead, so I took a wrong turn at Albuquerque and ended up in America, apparently. Man, you have such a fascinating life. I love to live vicariously through you.
Gaming Memories of 2007
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Each week I hear what you get up to. Yes.
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Yes, it is a bizarre time. Some better than others, let me tell you. Anyway, so today we're going to be looking back to the video games of 2007. So 2007 is often listed as one of the best years in video gaming history. And so we're going to put that to the test and examine some of the games that came out that year. So let us know your thoughts about 2007 in the comments. What were your gaming habits like then? Got any favorite games from that year? And do you think it's the best year in gaming history?
00:04:34
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All right then so before we begin let's just briefly set the stage and just ease ourselves back through time. So first of all if we're back 2007 both me both satanami and i we were both gaming at the time so what were your kind of gaming habits like in 2007 what kind
00:04:50
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console were you on? What did you like playing? Well, if I remember correctly, I would have been about 15 years old in 2007. Unless I've... Yeah, okay. No, no, that's definitely the case. I wasn't very good at maths and school, so apologies.
00:05:05
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and just like, yeah, pluck an age out of anywhere. Yeah, in 2015, see, that's what I'm saying, that's like numbers, what are they? In 2007, yeah, I was 15 years old, so before that time, there was like a period in time, and I think I brought this up in the podcast before, my parents were quite stripped about what I could play. See, if I went over to a friend's and they had like GTA, that was a different story, you know, because like, you know, like where your parents can't see, you know, probably they can't see, they can't judge.
00:05:36
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But yeah, I wasn't allowed to play like, you know, FPS games, unless, you know, they were like, colorful, you know, like, Simpsons Hit and Run was my, was pretty much my GTA growing up. So yeah, so as soon as I got to 2007, something snapped within me because I saw all these FPS games like College of Duty 3, Halo 3, you know, a lot of threes, and I was like, I'm just gonna play them. It's like, you know the child, like, in a candy shop?
00:06:04
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It's just like, it gets the keys and it's like, I'm gonna put them all. That's what I was like with FPS games. I was like, I'm gonna play them all. And yes, indeed I did. So I was very much at that stage into a lot more kind of FPS games, but I was also transitioning a little bit more into PC gaming. Like not anything, not anything high tier. Like I didn't have a gaming PC or anything because they are damn expensive. Even back then, they've not gotten any better.
00:06:32
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you would think by now they had but no no no no absolutely not but like things like portal and that kind of thing you know like a lot of steam games i suppose like orange box and things like except half-life 2 i still haven't played that but i really need to
00:06:48
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That's the big thing on the orange box. That's the big thing. It's like, G-Maw, 10-portal. Yeah, that's all that was on the orange box, wasn't it? So you ate the relish in the meal, but you didn't actually eat the steak? Look, no, I ate the chips, okay. You ate the parsley.
00:07:08
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There's nothing wrong with drinking the peppercorn sauce. It is a valid beverage in seven countries, okay? I don't know which countries, but in seven countries, it is acceptable, okay? Seven real countries. Yes, such as Chatsunami land, Satsuvil, you know, all the cool places, all the cool places. All the places you want to be in fairness. No items allowed. There's been a travel ban every time.
00:07:38
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Yeah, so that was my kind of gaming habits. Clearly very plebeian compared to some others. But yeah, that's definitely, 2007 was when I started following down the FPS rabbit hole, I would say. And yeah, sorry, flipping it back to you. What was your time? Yeah, well, I was devoted to my 360 at this point. So I got my 360 about just over a year before and I was absolutely in love with it. And yeah, I was in a pure FPS
00:08:07
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Yes, craze as well. I always went well into my call of duties, into my Medal of Honor as kind of what other World War II games I could get. But yeah, I was, my Halo as well. I was very into, I was very into, I mean, I still happened to my FPS games, but that was, you know, that was probably like the start of the hype for me as well.
Impact of Call of Duty 4
00:08:25
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Same as you. So yeah, so it seems we were on quite similar, quite similar trajectories of probably why we're doing a podcast together now. Absolutely. The stars have aligned indeed.
00:08:36
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I mean, that's why we've also played Halo and things like that together. Very true, very true. And Call of Duty's as well, still keeping them strong. Oh good, Call of Duty. You can't live with them. So sorry you were saying.
00:08:50
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So that's where we were then, that gives you a bit of flavor of where we were in 2007. But let's have a look at, well we both live in Scotland and we were living in Scotland in 2007. So let's have a quick look at what was going on in the UK in 2007. So this was the year that Gordon Brown became Prime Minister. Sorry, if anybody who's not in the UK, this is very UK centric, sorry. So with what you know they say. The number one film in the UK,
00:09:14
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Do you see that one? Fun fact actually, I went to see that in the IMAX as well. So the IMAX is everywhere beyond the UK isn't it? It's got international. See that's what I thought. I didn't want to be like oh yeah you know that kind of indie thing called the IMAX.
00:09:33
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That's what the I stands for. Yes, and Dave to the mat. I went to see it in, I think it was a science centre actually. At the time I travelled through to the lovely city of Glasgow of course and I travelled through to the science centre where I attached to it. I'm assuming it's still there. I don't think it moved yet.
00:09:55
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Yeah, what they used to do, I think, I could be wrong, this is a tangent, I apologise. It's like they used to
Selective 3D Movie Experiences
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do 3D showings of Harry Potter but they would only choose certain scenes to convert into 3D. Really? Yeah, like for some reason, for the IMAX shows anyway. I don't think it was the same for
00:10:14
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you know the usual cinemas but it was definite with the case with that so for the fifth film they did the ending you know the big ending fight spoilers and between two titular main characters of course they fought and it was like all the 3d and it was really cool but it was just that scene the rest of it was just like normal boring 2d and you're like
00:10:35
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I mean, it's cool, I guess. And then they tried the same thing for the sixth film, and I think they just gave up after that. I was just like, yeah, this isn't the same, because it was just like the people flying through London and things, and you're like, it's not as cool as having glass being thrown in your face. It's a real Glasgow experience. Exactly. I don't want to say, but thank you. I'll say it. Thank you for taking the brunt.
00:11:02
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That's so crazy though that they'd sign up for it, it's selective 3D. I almost would prefer that method of 3D to be honest. We've talked about this before, maybe not that I can't remember what episode, but we've talked about how with a 3D film it was like, you got a couple of scenes and the rest of it was just two people talking and you're like, this is pointless. So actually selective 3D sounds like actually quite an interesting idea.
00:11:21
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Because I made a joke about that. I was like, oh, is it going to be the scene where Harry Potter's like changing these bedsheets? And they like, you know, throws it at the screen. It's like, whoa! Don't get hit by that mattress, Harry. Yeah, no, unfortunately not. It's never got the boring, you know, major bombastic fight at the end. It's like, ugh.
00:11:41
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I hope it is. Yeah, back then they didn't have that. Oh, would you even call that show on Netflix? You know the one where the woman goes into people's houses or thinks into them? Yeah, yeah, the one with that fork and joy. Yeah, that's the one. I can't remember a name, but yeah, I don't want to try and put you in. Yeah, but yeah.
00:11:57
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You know the one, yeah. I know the one with me. Back then. I'm giving everyone a note. If you've seen it, you'll know what we're talking about. But yeah, so... Yeah, so that was a number... No, it was fine. That was a number one, though. It was some good content, but that one was good. Number one song... See if we get some good content out of this one. Number one song was Bleeding Love by Leona Lewis. Do you know that one? Do you remember that one? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's a bad one.
00:12:19
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thank you yeah i listened to it again i was like man this is i'm not usually i'm not that big in the pop music but i was like damn that is a banger gavin and stacy debuted on on british television in 2007 and we also had liberty big brother's racism controversy with jade goody and shill pachetti which i didn't watch big 70 big brother but i remember that vividly at the time
00:12:37
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Oh yeah, terrible business. I think Big Brother in general is just like, hold a six foot pole towards it. I think that was when social distancing, like before it was kind of commonplace, like I think it was still acceptable to socially distance yourself from Big Brother. I agree.
00:12:54
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I don't even know if it still goes on now, but if it does, I think that still applies. Oh, absolutely. Keep your distance. Absolutely. So that was where the UK was at. So let's quick look at what the gaming industry was like
Nintendo DS Dominance in 2007
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in 2007. So this was the two years into the Xbox 360's life cycle, and we were one year into the Wii's.
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And 2007 saw the release of the PS3 in Europe. Do you know what the best-selling console was? Can you ever guess what the best-selling console was? I'll give you a clue. It's not any of those three that I just listed. Sorry, during 2007, what the best-selling console was. PlayStation 2? No. It sold a lot. That sold more than the PS3, I think, during 2007. But it was a handheld one. What, the DS? Yeah, Nintendo DS. It sold 8.5 million results. Down to between training.
00:13:38
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It was one of the biggest selling games in 2007. I'll remember it. See, it is terrible because I actually did buy that one. That was such a big thing. What annoyed me the most, again, often a tangent, surprise, surprise, but this is what really annoyed me about it was the fact that even you were doing the puzzles, it was like you were supposed to do the mental arithmetic as fast as possible, but sometimes when you wrote down the answers it wouldn't register. Like you would put a tune that's like, did you mean four?
00:14:08
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And it's like, no I didn't know what I mean for. And they would put it through as the wrong answer. It's like, you've got a brain age of 94. It's like, you know what, how do you sass me in my own home? A 15 year old boy, how do you do sass me? You haven't played it in years. I think that's why. I think I've got a bitter resentment.
00:14:29
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enough to get a lifelong resentment. Absolutely. That's took out of fire. But wow, I didn't know that though. Yeah, no, I was really surprised by that as well. Because I thought like, I presume with the PS3, at least that would be the best selling one or like the, I thought the Wii maybe as well, because everybody and their grandma eventually ended up having a Wii or two in their house somewhere.
00:14:48
Speaker
Oh, did the word just phrase that? Yeah, sorry. How many Nintendo see? That's why they call your console this name. No, no, no, no, go on, sorry. You were talking about families in the UK coming together for a wee. A wee, yes. Okay, families across the world coming together for a wee.
00:15:06
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Yes, especially Germany. Germany had all the wee's. I remember you saying the big Germany conspiracy. I honestly kid you not. So the reason I say this, people might be wondering why the hell I'm talking about Germany and the Nintendo Wii and the same sentence. It was because I remembered in 2006, I think, the year before. Well, technically on the kind of precipice of going into 2007, a lot of families wanted to buy the Wii, but there was a shortage. Haha, sometimes never change. And
00:15:35
Speaker
A lot of people in the UK were ordering from Germany, because for some reason they had a surplus of them. Why? I don't know. Genuinely. I actually had my friend tell me, he was like, you know, I'm ordering it from Germany and it's like, okay. I think I got mine a lot later, but it's like, okay. Fair news. You get it when you won the prize, Germany edition. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't get it. I'm really yelling at me, so I'm not upset.
00:16:04
Speaker
I'm upset. I just got a boring... I didn't even know. I was going to say a boring UK one, but it was probably manufactured as a far off land. Definitely not manufactured in the UK. Yeah, definitely wasn't. You'd have fallen apart instantly. Like an old British car. Exactly. You know, grand old British craftsmanship.
00:16:26
Speaker
So, yeah, you've heard it here first, Chatsunami exclusive, that a British wee is not as sturdy as other wee's abroad. Anyway... Yeah, moving on.
00:16:41
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That's the backdrop set. So let's get diving into some of the biggest games that came out in 2007. Yeah, let's go for it. So one of the big hitters, in fact maybe the big hitter in the viewpoint was Super Mario Galaxy, which came out for Nintendo Wii. Did you play this one?
00:16:58
Speaker
See, I never did. So this is the thing. I technically have it on the backlog because I bought the Mario a cave den. Okay. That's a Mac confession. Forgive me, Sandwich for I have sinned. But I got the You're the Mario All Stars pack. Was it
00:17:14
Speaker
Yeah Mario 64, Mario Sunshine and Mario Galaxy. Apparently Mario Galaxy 2 is meant to be better supposedly. Yeah I just bought the first one because I thought it might as well. Well no I didn't say might as well like it was part of the pack.
00:17:33
Speaker
So I had no choice. I guess I'll get it. But I still haven't played it yet. It's like, technically I think the closest I've got to playing it is I took it out the packet and then I put it in another, like, a sleeve. Oh, of course. Yeah, it's there waiting, just kind of peeking up saying, could I play it yet? Just like, no, you've sit on the back lot. Get down. Get back in the case. Get back, I say. I am feigned.
00:18:00
Speaker
Now I haven't played it, but I have heard good things about it. But in terms of Mario games, like I'm not even just saying that as like, oh, you know, obviously Mario game, therefore, it's good. But Mario Galaxy seemed to be really widely regarded, like both when it came out and then after the fact. So, yeah.
00:18:18
Speaker
I mean, it has the highest Metacritic score of any game from 2007. It's got 97 out of 100. 97? Wow. It was the first Nintendo title to win the BAFTA award for best game. As you said, it received basically universal critical acclaim. So did you say?
00:18:34
Speaker
Did you say the first game that won the BAFTA? No, sorry, first Nintendo type. Oh, first Nintendo. First time a Nintendo game.
Super Mario Galaxy's Acclaim
00:18:41
Speaker
I think, sorry, first part of a Nintendo game had won that BAFTA for Best Game. I was just going to say that must have boiled David Cage's piss. Like when he won the BAFTA for Heavy Reef. Did that win the BAFTA award for Best Game? I'm going to look that up just as you continue, but I'm sure it won something. It won the award for the most awkward prompt of all time. Oh my gosh, yeah.
00:19:04
Speaker
Yeah. As you can watch in our ongoing saga of heavy rain. Yes, go over to the YouTube channel, SatSanami42, where you can see us struggling through hell and bad. Funny, I've never, I had a wee as well, but it was one of these things I'd got for, and I don't think I've ever ventured past.
00:19:22
Speaker
So I never played galaxy it looks I want some video footage of it like never up for this episode It looked I don't like it. It looks so good like I mean obviously it's still like basically the plot is Mario Explores these different galaxies to rescue each and save the universe from Bowser's a pretty standard story But like the way it was a lot the way it seems to work is like Mario can land all these different like planets and he can like run around them
00:19:44
Speaker
so it's almost like rather than operating on a kind of like flat plane that most Mario games happen it's on this kind of sphere and it so you can like run up you can like you can run into a goomba and then like run around the planet and get behind him it's like jump on his head and stuff and i think like now some of the criticism is going to aim at like it's quite awkward mechanics and the way it
00:20:04
Speaker
plays because it's quite different from like the other kind of Mario games we're used to and that obviously it's really difficult to actually like see where you're gonna land when you jump because of the way like the camera works and because of the fact that it's a spherical thing. It also seems like like the last time that Nintendo tried something quite different
00:20:21
Speaker
with a major Mario game. Like I know they've had different mechanics in other ones but this seemed like quite a radical departure and like a lot of kind of creativity and on display not not all of it apparently working but still like admirable in that respect still very highly regarded. Do you know funny if you mention that about it being like you know it's like a sephirical landscape you know with Mario Galaxy because Sonic Adventure 2 and this is me bringing it back to the Sonic I'm sorry.
00:20:47
Speaker
I was like, I had to. I'm sorry. We knew it was going to happen. It had to be. It had to be done. By the way, sorry, just quickly off topic, Heavy Rain did won three out of the... How many chapters? Three of the seven awards available. Wow. What year did they come out?
00:21:03
Speaker
I think it was 2010, but it was 2011, they won the BAFTA. Oh yeah, fair enough. Oh wild. Sorry, I just had to say that. But sorry, going back to what you were saying. In Sonic Adventure 2, I think you've seen me play this. There's like a level where you have to go into space, and there's like a brief moment where you've got a very similar thing going on. Oh, of course.
00:21:25
Speaker
It's quite weird because that bit was poorly done. It was not good. It's like you're trying to get off and you can and I think Mario definitely did it better but they practically said we're gonna take that bit and we're gonna do it better and make a full game around.
00:21:43
Speaker
And somehow they succeeded, so you know what, props to them for that. No, props to them indeed. I think with Galaxy 2, I think they slightly reworked it. There was the same still, you could explore the planets and stuff, but I think when they wanted you to do platforming,
00:22:00
Speaker
more kind of specific platform levels they like locked you into like an environment where it became that kind of classic like flat and obviously with like different bits of terrain and levels but like a flat environment with like the kind of standard camera yeah to make it like that more easy but like at the same time as you say like they've tried something different and that's admirable at least and I said like the 97 out of 100 clearly a lot of people really like it I mean there's no pattern to it too but you know
00:22:25
Speaker
What is, though, in fairness? That is true. That film's a masterpiece. And I just want to go on a side note to say screw the person who actually did give it a negative review to bring down the score. That is all. You know who you are. Yes. We're coming for you.
00:22:43
Speaker
It's like, I'm joking for legal reasons. But anyway, sorry, back to you. Well, so from exploring the skies to the grim realities of modern warfare, Call of Duty 4 was also another big game that came out in 2007. The 360, PS3 and Windows. I mean, we talked about this game recently, so if you can go listen to our episode on the modern warfare,
00:23:06
Speaker
A series from a couple of weeks? Was that about a month ago now? Must have been now, yeah. Like that, yeah. But anyway, let's give it some time for our full thoughts on that one. But just to say, this won numerous Game of the Year awards. One of the best-selling games of 2007. I think it was like seven million copies sold by January 2008. You know, these college games had to come out at the end of the year. As I said, I'll just briefly say again, I think this is a groundbreaking title.
00:23:30
Speaker
and it changed the FPS landscape for better and for worse. I remember at the time, this was one of the games that I was really excited about to get in 2007, because I was really into Call of Duty. I was also a bit like, I probably mentioned this before, but I was a little bit like concerned and that I was really, I really enjoyed the World War II setting. I was a little bit like disappointed. They were going into a modern setting, but you know, I was still really excited for it. And then I played it and I was like, this is the greatest.
00:23:55
Speaker
You know, I still think it's the best in the series, and it's something that all subsequent COD games have tried to emulate. They tried to emulate its impact. Do you have anything you want to say about it? Funny enough, I actually didn't get into, or rather, I didn't play COD 4 when it came out. The reason, I don't even know why. I think, as I said before, because I was 15 years old, this was the time where I was like, I'm going to play all the games. I was playing all the FPSes under the sun.
00:24:19
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And one of the games I got at the time, because I don't know if I had an Xbox at the time, at the time that I started getting into Call of Duty, but I ended up playing, I think, Code 3 first, and I was in the PlayStation 2, and I remember absolutely loving it at the time, and then I heard that they were moving like yourself, that they were moving into the modern warfare setting, and I was like,
00:24:43
Speaker
But I just got here! I was like, that's so unfair! I just started getting into Modern Warfare 2 shooters and now they're bringing it to the Modern Age? I'm like, oh no! So it took me a while and I didn't actually get into the Modern Warfare series until Modern Warfare 2. But honestly, going back to later, I can see how it would have been a groundbreaking title. Because even going back and playing it, it honestly is just such an impressive game, both.
00:25:10
Speaker
And again, as you said, we've done, like, a full retrospective on the series, but it is just such an impressive game from its storyline, to its gameplay, to, you know, everything at the time. Except Mile High Club, that level can burn it in a dirty, dirty ditch. Yeah. Especially in veteran mode, it is a horrible level. Other than that, yeah, no written game. Turn it into... It's not Paddington 2. Paddington never had a Mile High Club.
00:25:41
Speaker
marmalade. There's another big shooter as well came out in 2007. And that was I get another one that we talked about a little bit longer than that. But that was Halo 3, Xbox 360. Now this was this was the best selling game released that year at 8.1 million sold. It had mixed reception for the campaign, but there was universal acclaim for its multi
00:26:07
Speaker
player. Oh, absolutely. And apparently, apparently the first 20 hours of its release still ranks as one of the biggest days for Xbox Live gaming in history. Yeah, this was huge. It was absolutely huge. I mean, again, you can go back to this. That was that was episode number two, my first episode. And we talked about all the way back in the day when I was just a young, a young co-host. Now look at me. Well, I made it, Mark. Back when the door was still being
00:26:40
Speaker
I think I said at the time that this is probably my least favourite of the original trilogy. I didn't play much in the multiplayer at the time, I wasn't really into online gaming and it was the campaign I played. I think it's quite a weak campaign, honestly. But I can see if you played the multiplayer at the time, it probably would have brought the game up in estimation. I think you probably are more favourable towards it than me. I don't know if you want to think about it.
00:27:04
Speaker
Yeah, the only reason for that is because this was my first entry into Halo. Halo is of course one of those series that you hear about non-stop, maybe not as much nowadays, but back in the day, obviously everybody knows what Halo is, but nowadays it's kind of like
00:27:24
Speaker
Oh, it's a guy from Fortnite, kind of joke. Where it's like, oh, Master Chief's in, you know, this and that. And I mean, Halo Infinite still not come out after, I mean, when did Halo Five come out? Exactly. Jesus, really? That long ago. Six years and still no new game. But anyway, sorry, I'm getting off of the run.
00:27:45
Speaker
Yeah, honestly, listen to our hero retrospective, it's episode two, we do go into more in depth, but yeah, this was my first entry of the series and yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I was very confused by the campaign because I kind of saw the promotional material, people talking about like the arbiter being the enemy and then
00:28:07
Speaker
when I actually played the game he was his friend and I'm like okay I don't get this. It was a very confusing experience and Halo was actually one of the first games that I played online with my friends.
00:28:21
Speaker
So I kind of have a soft spot for it in that regard. Between that and Call of Duty, there was a lot of online series. Do you remember Machinima? Yeah, yeah. Just for anyone who doesn't know, or you know, is forgotten about a long lost. I don't want to say legend because I have heard very dodgy things about them. Like taking PE and everything and taking credit.
00:28:43
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horrible horrible business but i don't know like for legal reasons i do don't know because i haven't worked for them or anything but that's an army to use or is it
00:28:54
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want me in with myself. I'm my own worst enemy. But basically there was a lot of like content creators who did a lot of gaming content and they partnered up with Machinima. One of the famous series was RB and the Chief which is one I bring up quite a lot and one I have to admit I really enjoyed back in the day. Did you ever watch that on YouTube? I don't think I did like I think I think I've heard about it for you. Yeah I think I would
00:29:19
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It's literally just a guy who plays about with these two toys and pretends that they're alive like the Master Chief doll when they are but a doll but as if it's like a toy story kind of deal but they just play hero. It is quite juvenile but at the same time it was like at the time you know it was like high-class cutting-edge comedy.
00:29:39
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I mean between that and then Online Gamer which is again a classic for Call of Duty and that's the other one that yeah it's like the stereotype of the Call of the Bro gamer which funny enough like thinking back to you don't really see that as an advertisement anymore do you?
00:29:57
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No, not really. Like, back in 2007, you know how you used to have, like, the kind of blow... I can't believe I'm just scraping it like that, but you're like the kind of blow, oh look at me, I play Call of Duty, dude. But, you know, nowadays it's like they've distanced themselves, and it's like, here at Call of Duty, we are a safe and inclusive environment, and it's like, I've been on the Xbox Live.
00:30:21
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I'd be in an export live during the 360 days. That is not a safe community. It is still not the same. But yeah, it was like those kind of, yeah, that kind of content that was coming out of the time as well, which endeared me towards like Halo, because I was like, oh, everybody's playing it. And there was also Rooster Teeth as well. They did, they of course did Red versus Blue, which I didn't watch a lot of, but I did see some scenes enough to make me interested, kind of in Halo.
00:30:48
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It was a shitting at the time. It really was. It's still going apparently. Is it still going? Apparently. I don't know if it's stopping now because they've got like 50 other series that they're working on but I did hear that and I was really shocked. It was like how is this still going?
00:31:03
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It's like, it's over! Stop, he's already dead! I was like, no, we're gonna continue the series. We're gonna keep going. Yeah, no, I absolutely loved it, playing it. It was a bit of an ex, but I think that was the first time my gamertag actually got made fun of. Not the Satsunami one, because Satsunami was only a glint in my eye at that time. It wasn't like a thing yet, that wasn't until I went to uni.
00:31:25
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Yeah, before it was a very generic name and some French guy, I think, just started like saying, oh, it is a silly name and I'm like, okay.
00:31:36
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Yeah, so, sorry. Fun fact of the day. But William's not cool. Fun fact, kids. We'll do it, kids. Come on. Just shoot them in the face. Be nice about it. Move on. Be the change that you want to be unless it's in Halo. Just get a gravity hammer. Exactly. Exactly. But you're totally right. I think we do forget how big, like, what a phenomenon it was at the time. I mean, the Halo 3 launch was huge. I was looking at some of the stuff about it. It was enormous.
00:32:05
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Bill Gates sold the first copy of Halo 3 in the... Where was it? It was in Times Square or something. It was a store. But he was there and he sold the first copy of it. It was giant. It was huge. I think I still could remember the advertising for it and everything when it came out. And that was another one that I was eagerly anticipated that year, because I was still really into Halo. This was the one where I started to lose my interest. I have to admit, I got more into college and games like that. But I was still really, really excited for it.
00:32:34
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Yeah, do you know what? I had a lot of fun when me, you and S. Banks played through with it. That was a lot of fun to do it. So yeah, do you know what? That is still a good game. As much as I don't think it's the weakest of the original trilogy, still a fun game to play. So there's no taking that away from it.
00:32:50
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kind of just like very briefly like a site engine but do you feel as if gaming hype and like culture has changed since 2007 like in the sense that you know how you were saying there that they made such a big deal about it that Bill Gates was you know like selling the first copy and everything yeah could you imagine something but obviously not because of you know what the big pandemic the big mist of it but
00:33:15
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Can you imagine something like that happening these days?
Evolution of Game Hype and Culture
00:33:19
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I think we're a bit more jaded now because we've had, there's been so many recent failures. I mean, again, we did an episode on hype and video games as well, but actually you can listen to more of our thoughts on that.
00:33:30
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There have been a lot of high-profile failures ranging from Fallout 76 to Cyberpunk to Mighty No. 9, Anthem. There's a whole litany of them now. I think we maybe are more jaded now. I'm sure there were probably failures before, but I don't know. I didn't feel like there were as many high-profile ones before the mid-2000s.
00:33:54
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Yeah like I guess it's different as well now because you can get like there's so much of like digital downloading of a game rather than like you know going to store and like queuing. I mean people still do that you know I've seen that people still do that but like now it's far easier to get a copy of a game and that's Bill Gates is like you know sending you your digital copy even if we don't know about maybe he is and then we can't prove it. You didn't do anything Bill Gates.
00:34:18
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didn't die they just disappeared back into the internet yeah so i think you're right and i think it has changed um just but there so there was one more game there was one more well actually a collection of games which was the orange box which came out on 360 ps3 and windows as well um and this was a collection from valve which had half life 2 with episodes 1 and 2 team fortress 2 and portal so ign called this the best deal in video game history
00:34:48
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And I still think that stands true. I don't think there's a greater collection of games that have been released. If you can think of one, please say, but I honestly can. This received 17 Game of the Year awards. Team Four, obviously Half-Life 2 had come out earlier. Half-Life 2 had been released in 2004. And Episode 1 was, oh, 2005-2006, I can't remember. Episode 2 was, 2007 was the first year that was released.
00:35:16
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regarded games, regarded games of all time. Team Fortress 2 remains popular. I mean, I know it's free to play now, but it still has a quite a, quite a hefty following and a player base. And Portal was like the real surprise. I don't think anybody saw that coming when the Orange Box released. Everybody was really into Half-Life. Everybody was really excited about Half-Life 2 and then they discovered Portal and it's usually cited as the kind of standout of the collection. Personally, Half-Life 2 remains one of my favorite games. I know I've told
00:35:40
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a bit about it during different episodes. I love it. I think it's great. I never played Team Fortress 2 because I wasn't really into online gaming and it never really took off from the 360. It's on PC now where it's retained its popularity. I popped in Portal tonight just before the episode because it had been a long time
00:35:58
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I played it and it's still really it's still a really interesting game. It's really fun to play and you know it's one of these games it's only like a couple hours you know so you can play it in a day and it's just such a it's such a great gem of a game so honestly I love I love the orange like the orange but I remember I think I got the orange box in 2008 it's my birthday and I just remember being like
00:36:19
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collection of games. What do you think about it? Oh no, I totally agree with you there. I have to admit, as I said before, I have a very limited experience with Half-Life 2, but I have also played, like, Garry's Mode and things like that. But if you can say you've played Garry's Mode, it's more of a social experiment going wrong.
00:36:40
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It's the same mechanics, you know? It's the same source engine and things and it operates really well. I feel as if it is a timeless system. You can just jump in at any time. It's like everything works the way you expect it and things.
00:36:57
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With the limited experience I had with Half Life, I did enjoy it. Portal, absolutely love it. Portal is just, as you said, a fantastic gem. It's surprisingly really well done with great humour and just all around just
00:37:12
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fantastic gameplay and great problem solving as well which is starting to sound more like a CV at this point but trust me you know it's really interesting it was a really interesting game to kind of get into because I think that was one of the ones they were really pushing to say oh look at our physics look at what we can do with these games yeah
00:37:32
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And, I mean, it is amazing. Even today, like, see, this is the thing that I think stands out in a lot of these games. Like, not even just the Orange Box, but a lot of these games in 2007 that most of them still hold up today, you know? And I'm not gonna be like one of those people like, they don't make them like they used to, but, you know, like, some of these games were really built on us. Yeah.
00:37:53
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so it's amazing how you can go back and play them again even when you know there's like a sale on like the steam sale you know the end from a steam sale and yet people still go back to play them because they're just that good so it's crazy that such a big studio is Valve
00:38:10
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made and promoted something like Portal. Like, I'm trying to think of another, like, something that's just, like, a relatively small experience built around such, like, a unique, interesting, like, mechanic, and with, like, this kind of really, like, wicked sense of humour and everything. Could you imagine, like, something like Ubisoft? Maybe Ubisoft have made it, but I can't think of anything like Ubisoft making anything like this. Like, it's just such a fascinating thing. It's one of these things, I think, it's also bittersweet, because you look at, like, what Valve made, and you're like, God, like...
00:38:43
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really enjoy that but like before that Portal 2 was in the last game for like 2011 you know then it was all like steam and hats for Team Fortress 2 so it's just like you're just like oh just like what they were able to do with like some of these games is just I think was just remarkable and it's just a real shame that they decided to move away from that but you know hey I suppose go with the money is and we still have the orange one you know along with Valve's other kind of library I mean I know it's a cliche at this point but it's like you know the famous quote that you love
00:39:05
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Like, oh no, half my balance.
00:39:12
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you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain and then as we always have Valve have kind of and obviously there's obviously worst companies out there but you know it's like they could have done more but why would they I suppose if you know they're sitting on a mountain of gold already with all their sales and things and it is amazing that they still kind of ride that train you know they could totally just walk into a bar and be like
00:39:39
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oh yeah we created that the game not the crowbar way but you know like it's just amazing that it still stands up all right you've given me if i ever start a bar i'm going at the crowbar that's amazing that's a great game yeah get that bracketed now
00:39:57
Speaker
Well if this falls through I've got my I've got my second line of business. Yeah that's true. Oh sorry a Valve themed pub. Ah yes. It'll be shut down and I'll be sued to IM. Well don't come crawling back here if you do.
00:40:14
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So those were some of the real big kind of hitters, the K9 2000s. But it's interesting because it's a year that's also really noteworthy for the release of a lot of first entries in several highly popular video game franchises. Now these include Bioshock, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Crackdown, Rock Band and The Witcher. So impressive like when you hear some of those names and you consider it like The Legacy.
00:40:40
Speaker
of those franchises. You know, there's some pretty big hitters there. Did you play any of these to any of these first games? Or did you play any of their sequels? Can I get into the series later? What, like Mass Effect, did you say? Yeah, like any of the Mass Effect, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed. Well, funny enough, I played a little bit of the Assassin's Creed series. All I remember, because I remember when my friends had it, and I was just blown away by how beautiful it looked.
00:41:07
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because obviously looking at it now compared to some of the games are a little bit cheesy. But I remember seeing the trailers forward at the gameplay. If you compare the PlayStation 2 to the PlayStation 3 or the original Xbox 2,
00:41:22
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the 360 the graphics were such an upgrade at the time just like what it is now like compared to the pn well maybe not i feel as if the barrier or not the barrier but the split between them is kind of narrowing slightly definitely back then there was a huge jump
00:41:39
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between quality for like, I'm just thinking of like PS1, like PS1 Hagrid, PS1 Metagear. Yeah, exactly. And then you get to like there or that stage with the PS3 and the S360. We don't talk about the Wii because the Wii, the Wii still has the same graphics.
00:42:02
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as it did in the... okay, no, that's a lie. It's a little bit better, but we all know how that went down. They never... they went over gameplay, which is fair enough. Yeah, as I said, the PS3 and the Xbox C60 were just... they honestly at the time looked so beautiful, and especially for Assassin's Creed.
00:42:21
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Mass Effect, I think the only reason I played Mass Effect was because I also bought, I bought like a 2-pack, and I don't know why they were doing these at the time, but I bought like this 2-pack of games, so it was like, it came with Crackdown as well. I don't know why though, because they're both not related to one another. They were both Xbox 360 exclusives.
00:42:44
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Yeah. So maybe that was a reason that's the only link I can think of. That probably was. You know what, you're probably right. Yeah, I played a little bit of it. I didn't get into it really. I have to say, sorry Mass Effect fans. I did go through it and complete it, but I was like, yeah, it's alright. But I feel as if I should have put more time into it, you know? Because it is.
00:43:08
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Yeah, I think I just went from point A to B and that and finished the game. You didn't play two or three or anything? No, never. I don't know if I got it on Steam, like in the humble bundle or something, probably in the backlog or something, but no. And I never went back to it. I really should, because it seems as if it's been such a huge fanbase, like a very caring fanbase, you know?
00:43:30
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Not one that says we're a caring fanbase, but it's written on a napkin underneath a cardboard box being propped up with a stick. And as soon as you go under it's like, aha, we got him, fool! Yeah, nothing like that. What about yourself though? Did you play much of those games?
00:43:48
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Well, a funny thing about Assassin's Creed, this was another game that year that I was so excited for because, you know, like it was a history game and I was like, so the free running looked awesome. And as you say, like the graphics were beautiful. This was really like when I think HD gaming was like, we really showed what it could accomplish.
00:44:04
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you know, graphically. And I loved it at the time. I think now, if you look back at the first Assassin's Creed, it's an objectively bad game. The free running is cool, and it looks nice, but the missions are all like the same. It's like tales of the piece of the art, eavesdrop, like it's really not much variety. It's like, oh, collect a hundred flags. The story has always been nonsensical in Assassin's Creed.
00:44:26
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And like, I think now, like, there's clearly better ones in the franchise. Like, I've, like, I was into this has a big franchise for the first three games. Then I fell away and I then came back and played Black Flag number four later on, which I think is amazing. And they're probably the best, like I would say in the series. And I've
00:44:42
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I've kind of fallen away from it again because I don't like the direction it's gone. And with like, kind of like Foo Butcher games that they have now. But like at the time I was so excited. Mass Effect, I didn't, I remember hearing, I remember hearing people like raving about it at the time. It was a couple of years later I picked it up. I had a sort of similar experience to you in that I tried to play it at first and I just was like, I'm not into this. And I put it down, but I came back to it, completed it and I fell in love and then like went on to two, went on to three. And I really do adore, I really want to go back and play those three games now. So I really do like,
00:45:11
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Bioshock for me is maybe the standout because I didn't play in 2007 but I remember it hearing everybody crazy over it. So I think I got it like the next year for my birthday. That was a great birthday by the way, to get Bioshock in the orange box.
00:45:26
Speaker
I was like, my god, I'm the luckiest kid ever. But yeah, like, and I still, I mean, I hopefully, like, if I never convinced you to play the original Bioshock, hopefully we can do maybe do an episode on it. I genuinely remember when I first played it being like, I've never played anything like this. And it's, it was one of my favorite games for a long time. I don't think everything it does works. I think the second half of the game kind of lets the whole experience down.
00:45:54
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But the first half of the game is so amazing, I love Rapture, I love the characters in it. I think it was a real step forward for gaming, just something so unique. Well obviously it was building on stuff like System Shock, the System Shock games are done, but I never played it.
00:46:10
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first experience and I absolutely loved it. I've played like the Uncharted ones, obviously Uncharted is a huge franchise, I mean I don't know if it's still going, I think it is still going, I know they finished the kind of great side of it but like obviously a huge one, I mean I've played the first three and they're fine games, they're not really my kind of thing, like they're kind of fun to play but not something that I'd probably break that highly and I think again like the first Uncharted game is quite rough, it's a bit like the Assassin's Creed, I don't think it's like as unplayable as the first Assassin's Creed but I think it's that rough around the edges way that
00:46:41
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the later ones for that. I mean, I never played Rock Band, but I remember Rock Band being another one of people who was going to have to be crazy for it. Oh, I had that. At the time. Did you have Rock Band, did you? Oh, it was very fun. I think it was because Guitar Hero was kind of sweeping everyone off their feet, but it was because it only had the guitar. Obviously Guitar Hero needed a guitar, but with the Rock Band you had
00:47:04
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The drums, which I actually did have, you had the mic as well, and you also got a free USB adapter as well, so I was like, yes! So yeah, that was a good one. It was definitely worth it. And that changed that genre as well.
00:47:21
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I don't think they ever went back to just having single guitar. I think maybe when they tried to reboot guitar here a couple years back, they tried to go back to just having the guitars. Before that, that rock band came out, that changed everything. You just couldn't have guitars anymore. You had to have the mic and you had to have the drum set as well. So it was revolutionary in that sense. I have curiosity. Although it's two years later, I just looked it up there. Do you remember DJ Hero?
00:47:45
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I still, do you know what I found recently? I actually found my old, I still have my DJ hero set. Oh, did you actually have it? I had it, yeah. I got really into these rhythm games. It's not a lot of fun. It is a lot of fun. I never played it, I have to say. If you ever get over to my place and we'll crack out the turntable. Absolutely. It'll be a night for them. The police were called shortly after.
00:48:14
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It's fun times. It's just amazing that so many of these games, the franchises that basically came to dominate the gaming landscape in the years to come all happened to be released in 2007.
Notable Franchises Debuting in 2007
00:48:25
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And ones that, as we say, even stuff like The Witcher that took a while, took basically until Witcher 3.
00:48:31
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for I think to be really held up with like in high regard but the fact that it like started off you know I just think it's amazing that they got this group of them all coming together even if as we said it perhaps don't maybe they don't stack up as well now those original ones like just maybe their legacy is quite incredible it definitely set the foundation though didn't it oh yeah no doubt so do you know what it's anything to say about those games or oh no like I feel as if the sales have said more than that that's true
00:48:57
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They're saying more than I ever could. I could sit here and rant saying, oh, they were the worst things ever. But honestly, considering how much of a fan base they've got and how Mass Effect is getting re-released this year, or rather it has been with the Ultimate Edition, even when the PlayStation 4 came out, Uncharted,
00:49:17
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Which is another game in my backlog because I bought it. It's like the trilogy. They brought that out. You know, it says a lot. Like even Halo, the Master Chief Collection. Like it's a lot of games that kind of hit their stride in 2007. And now they're being re-released for future generations. Better and polished and everything. Yuck.
00:49:38
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What the authentic experience with our, what we thought were amazing, well we're amazing graphics at the time for the most part, but now you're like, oh gosh. It's weird looking back on it though, isn't it? Yeah, it's quite strange, isn't it? Yeah, like before you would think, as you said, looking back, I think the worst one for me is probably Assassin's Creed, the first one, because you think, oh this is such, you know, an amazing game and, you know, it looks...
00:50:05
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Sorry, I'm just laughing because I'm thinking of what they said about it being historically accurate and now where it's gone since. I remember, and I don't know if they still do this, but I remember being blown away at the beginning when it was like Assassin's Creed is worked on by a team of multi faiths. A multicultural team, yeah, with different faiths and beliefs and things.
00:50:30
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and you know they want to preserve the historical accuracy and it was like wow that is so cool and the fact that you know all the buildings look cool you know there were lepers on the streets and everything you were walking it is amazing at the time where was the recent one?
00:50:47
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Where was the recent one set? Oh, it's Viking time. It's like in Britain. Oh, so it is, yeah. Is that Valhalla? Valhalla, yeah. I mean, technically, I think maybe that one's a bit toned down as far as I'd heard. I can't say that for definite because I haven't played it.
00:51:03
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I've heard a lot of people enjoy that one, but I just remember there being like a kind of subplot or something about, I don't even know, like Templars and Mystic Magic, or I don't even know. The mythos and everything is just so like, it was out of whack to be honest. Two really made it go out of whack at the end of that screen too, but like yeah, it's just out of control now. Honestly like, the future stuff I always thought was, I'm sorry, the present day slash future stuff was always like,
00:51:33
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Well, for me, I'm like, why is this here? I think the most telling thing is, as I said before, you know, seeing like how much time and effort and I think even with Assassin's Creed, the original one, they actually took off the crossbow off of Altair, the main character, because they said it wasn't historically accurate. Now that could be like a complete myth or so.
00:51:55
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Yeah, anybody feel free to challenge me in case that is not the case, but I'm sure I heard that, that they took that out because, quote-unquote, it wasn't historically accurate. And then you flash forward to, like, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, I think? Was that the one set in Egypt? Or... Origins. Thank you. Origins. And, yeah, it's like, pre-order now and get your free Horsemen of the Apocalypse! It's like,
00:52:20
Speaker
What? What? I beg your pardon? Excuse me? You go to the Assassin's Creed Syndicate where you have like the Batman grapple thing in like Victoria, London. Assassin's Creed 2 where they had like the totally accurate like sort of marksman style like 15th century footlock crystal. I mean I suppose taking the clay and I'm being very generous here but was that not the game that you were friends with like Leonardo da Vinci?
00:52:48
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Oh yeah, that's true. At least you can kinda play that off as kinda silly antics with a real life inventor or something. You can be like, okay, that's how you pass it off. But would you keep doing that and being like, oh yeah, look, you've got a Tommy gun or something.
00:53:05
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And like the Renaissance, it's like, yeah, I don't think Leonardo da Vinci was that much of a good inventor. He was a great mind, but you know, I don't think, you know, a Gatling gun was on the top of his list, I think, to invent. I'm a great inventor of that book on the top of his list. Oh god, can you imagine?
00:53:28
Speaker
Introducing, it ain't me, finally, Leonardo da Vinci. Well, there was a couple of other notable games as well released in 2007, so we had the PC dick measuring contest that was Crisis, if you remember that one at the time. Was that Crisis? Was it Run Crisis? Was that Crisis 2? No, this was Crisis 1. Oh, was it the first one? This was the first Crisis, yeah. I just remember Crisis. Was it the sequel that everybody jumped on, though?
00:53:55
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Yeah, you're absolutely right though when people were like, oh can your PC run crisis? And I was like, clearly it can. And I feel kind of worried because I know technically my PC probably could run it, but I feel as if they're like dicks in the sense that they'll put a patch in, meaning that I can't run. And they'll just be like, oh your PC can't run crisis? And it's like,
00:54:17
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I don't even know what crisis is. I know the game. I've seen the pictures and it's like an FPS, but I don't know what it's about. I've gone out in North Korea. You go to some island in the Pacific where the North Koreans are like, there's a North Korean task force there and it's like, it's a deal with aliens. There's like, when she comes to aliens and alien technology and you're trying to race North Koreans to find it. I do. I even see this.
00:54:42
Speaker
No, I might. Go look at the plot. It's wild. It's actually on game pass. I've downloaded it off game pass. I feel there's something I have to at least experience. I don't know if I'd see it to completion, but I kind of want to run around and hunt North Koreans on a Pacific island, trying to find alien artifacts.
00:54:59
Speaker
I was going to say, I thought you got that mixed up with Homefront. It was like proto. The people who developed Homefront played this and were like, do you know what? There's something here about this in North Koreans. Oh, thank God. It was probably since 2011. That means we don't have to talk about it. No, it's true. We don't have to talk about Homefront now. Terrible game. Next week, 2011 games. No! We also had Legend of Zelda came to Nintendo DS in 2007 with Phantom Hourglass.
00:55:32
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from what I understand, although it's kind of interesting they tried to incorporate a lot of the touchscreen, the stylus mechanics. I feel as if DS games are a very fine art, because a lot of games try to jump on the DS kind of train, and because of that you get a lot of guff on it. Do you remember the days of the Game Boy, where there were just so many games that were just nonsensical?
00:55:58
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Oh, yeah. Like, you know, every property from like Scooby-Doo to, you know, Beyblade and things like that. Just everybody wanted a piece of that like portable pie. You know, like even Robot Wars had a game on it. It's like, it wasn't great, but it wasn't the worst. Because have you ever tried, you know, like trying to battle other robots with a D-pad? Not fun. It gets these days you don't understand it. You don't understand the trials and tribulations. Exactly. They do not understand. It's terrible.
00:56:27
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That's absolutely, that's horrific. But yeah, for the DS, it was quite similar. For me, I only played, like, yeah, this and me putting on my contrarian glasses on. But I really only played, like, the DS or Pokémon. I did not play it for really much else. I don't think you're alone in that. I think that's probably quite a common experience.
00:56:49
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Honestly, it could be like, oh, I had a DS. I love the DS. It's like, name your top three games. And I'd be like, Pokemon, Brain Training.
00:57:01
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That one game I got to learn French and it turned out it wasn't very good. That's my top three. Oh, funny enough, actually, there was no Pokémon game in 2007. Well, actually, technically there was. I'll jump ahead now, but there was a North American and European release of Diamond and Pearl. Technically, it's come out in Japan the year before, but like, a worldwide release of Diamond and Pearl. Did you play over those, did you?
00:57:26
Speaker
I didn't play them until much later. I mean, that's another whole tangent in itself. But that was when, as I said before, that's when I started drifting away from other games. Again, I think I brought this up in our childhood episode, our childhood games episode.
00:57:44
Speaker
that was kind of the time where I started trying to move away from like what I consider to be old childish games and things which is complete rubbish but you know uh 50 years old it's like I wanna buy games where I can show things and you know I like see that's the thing it's like I wanna buy more adult games and it's like what does that even mean
00:58:03
Speaker
you know like you gotta have fun in a game when you don't there's no point like judging in how mature it is but yeah that's when i started to move away i did play it later on and it wasn't great i'm gonna be honest like there's a lot of people growing up or who grew up and that was like their very first pokemon game although like i have a cheek saying that because pokemon yellow was my first game and that has like a lot of bugs and things like that but
00:58:29
Speaker
Oh god, it was just really slow and clunky. I really did not enjoy it at all and everyone keeps saying, you know how they used to do the third version? So it was like they had Diamond and Pero and then I think 2008 was when they brought out Pokemon Platinum and I did not. I honestly don't want to fork out the money for it because people keep saying, oh it's the definitive edition, it's the best edition, play it. And it's like, listen, if I didn't enjoy my steak I'm not gonna order.
00:58:57
Speaker
I'm not going to order a beef bugger right after that. I'm not going to tell you what kind of steak it is because that's just going to cause another war in the chat. There's too many wars reaching this up. Yeah, we've got too many wars and too many fronts. We've got to fight, or we've got to pick our battles. Speaking of battles and war, gaming's angriest man, Kratos, returned in 2007 and got a war too, which was almost like a send-off for the PS2. Probably quite a thing, to be honest. I've played a bit of
00:59:27
Speaker
I completed God of War I and I had fun with it. I played a bit of God of War II. I hated God of War III. I've not played the recent one, so I know it's in a different direction, but God of War is not really for me. Again, with the caveat, I've not played the recent one. It was certainly a nice thing, I suppose, if you did have a PS2.
00:59:51
Speaker
that generation ended. I never got into God of War maybe just because I was an 18 at the time so because of parental restrictions I couldn't but even then like it wasn't a game that interested me. Fair enough. Like I was probably more into as I said like FPS games and things like that. Yeah. And yeah it just wasn't for me I don't think. That's fair enough.
01:00:13
Speaker
Yeah, I feel bad saying that because I know that it is like a series that everybody, well not everybody, but like a lot of people do cherish, you know, and say, oh it's a great series, but I'm like... It feels like you could go into the, it feels like you could start with the new one now though. It doesn't feel like you'd need to play any of the original three. Like, it feels like if you wanted to get into it you might as well start with the new one because it seems like quite different
01:00:43
Speaker
in that sense of it but yeah it sounds like not really a series for either of us. I'm gonna guess again this is probably another series it doesn't have much interest either of us but it was a notable release in that Skate came out like that year and kind of bringing like a more realistic edge to the world of kind of skateboarding games and like
01:01:03
Speaker
Tony Hawk one so I can't speak to it but I know it was a favourite of like of skaters. It was a bit more realistic the skate games like in the way that rather than like with Tony Hawk you know where you press buttons combos and things like that flips in skate you kind of flick the the right I think it's the right stick the right thumbstick on like an Xbox 360 controller I presume it's probably the same on a PS3. That kind of did it and it felt a bit more intuitive if that makes sense a bit more like if you're actually doing
01:01:32
Speaker
and the complete same there it doesn't seem like something I would be into either sorry sorry sorry to our skateboard you know our skateboard enthusiasts yeah yeah apologies I'll be putting a formal apology out on the YouTube channel so yeah feel free to look out for that now one game one game that I really did like I was also another game I was excited for I really enjoyed Guitar Hero 3 and was the last of the well last Guitar Heroes
01:02:00
Speaker
But yeah, that was the first Guitar Hero game I got and I really enjoyed it. I had a lot of fun with it. Did you play any of the guitar games that you were rock banding? Yeah, I was more a rock band person. I never played Guitar Hero but I was one of those weirdos where everyone else had Guitar Hero and I'm like, I'm a rock band person. But that's the weird thing about this because I'm thinking of games like Just Dance or any music or rhythm games nowadays.
01:02:25
Speaker
But during the days of Rock Band, they didn't really have DLC for it. What they did instead was they had a themed-based game. So it'd be like, you would have Lego Rock Band, you would have the Beatles Rock Band. Aerosmith, I think. Aerosmith, they actually bought a couple of them at this time. They were a lot cheaper, for obvious reasons. But even still, it's a bit of a scam, having to shell out for like, if you want to play, you know.
01:02:53
Speaker
hard days night you know it's like oh you can't buy the original yeah you know you have to buy like a whole separate desk and you're like why why do we have to do this weird why you do this and nowadays you just have to steal your mother of father's credit card and yeah just just pay for it in the store for legal reasons that was another joke thank you for laughing
01:03:15
Speaker
We don't do crime here. We don't do crimes. We don't, but anyway. So last year I was going to mention there was the LEGO Star Wars The Complete Saga came out, which collected together the two LEGO games that didn't like the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy. Honestly, the only time, any real fun I've had with the prequels is playing LEGO Star Wars, I'm going to be honest. That was some fun stuff.
01:03:45
Speaker
I thought you were talking about the other games and I was about to throw down hands. I was about to defend the maiden battlefront's order.
01:03:57
Speaker
I was like, how dare you? How dare you saw the other day? Oh, no, no, no. There are better Star Wars games out. Oh, yeah. They were a lot of fun. I think there's better LEGO games as well. But they were some of the first ones. They might be the first ones, actually. They were a lot of fun. They were a lot of fun. Probably some are a lot of fun.
01:04:13
Speaker
Oh no, it's definitely a fun game. And actually, funny enough, that... I don't know if you were the same, but I remember playing the LEGO game before I actually saw Revenge of the Sith. Oh, nice, really? So technically I got spoilers for the... That's amazing.
01:04:29
Speaker
Yeah, because that's the thing. It's like, obviously they have to know what happens in the film. So, like, you go through story missions of the films. I remember going into it thinking there's no way they'll give, you know, there's no way they'll give you the plot points or anything, but they did. They gave you the full film, about an abridged Lego version, obviously.
01:04:50
Speaker
That was interesting. It was definitely interesting. And then I was watching the film and thinking about the Lego version the entire time saying, this isn't how it played out in the Lego version. This isn't how it played out at all. Too much dialogue nutting off. Yeah, exactly. Oh yeah, that was before they started doing dialogue. I remember that. Before the dialogue it was always, no!
01:05:16
Speaker
Oh yeah, the Yoda screen was incredible. I'm not going to try to replicate it because you can replicate perfection, but yeah, I remember well. And one last game that's like, I'm going to say it's near and dear to our heart, maybe not, but 2007 also, I don't know if you played it in 2007, but also we got the birth of Blooper and the Bard because Lord of the Rings Online came out in 2007. Oh. Which if I'm right thing is where that started. Now, I didn't play it in 2007, but
01:05:45
Speaker
Just to give you a bit of a back story for all those people wondering who Blonbrough the rugged man of a bar does. Oh rugged no, but you know, like I'm not biased.
01:05:54
Speaker
basically when I started D&D with yourself of course and a couple of the friends basically were trying to you know come up with the characters and I came up with a character called Blimbro the Bard and the reason for that was because I forgot halflings were a thing so I forgot like hobbits halflings whatever you want to call them were a thing but the reason I created that character was because it was in university that one of my friends was really into Lord of the Rings
01:06:21
Speaker
And he kept saying, like, oh, do you want to play it? And I was like, I guess. So I used like a name randomizer and yeah, ended up getting Blimbro. I was like, okay, I'll do it. So I played a minstrel hobbit called Blimbro.
01:06:37
Speaker
And yeah, ever since then I've used that name for like, any fantasy games. It's like, yep, Limbro lives on from that like, one throw away character. And I try getting the account back and I'm sorry. I'm sorry to tell you this live. But he's in that big farm in the sky. I'm sorry. What a sad end. Just remember the good times. In the arms of the age.
01:07:03
Speaker
Actually, can I mention an honourable mention of a game? No, go for it, go for it. So, did you ever play The Simpsons game? No, that's a funny, I did notice that came out in 2007. Yeah, cos I just noticed that there was just, like, looking up any other games, and I honestly really enjoyed that. I think I bought that for the PlayStation 3, and I remember having a blast with it. There were some levels where it was like, oh, this isn't fun, but, yeah, did you play it?
01:07:28
Speaker
Yeah, like, do you know what? I think it's, if you look at it like mechanically, I think it's like, you'd say it's probably like a pretty mediocre game. Yeah. It's not much, but it was the writing, the writing and the fact like how it parodied, like it parodied different games and kind of the gaming industry itself, like really elevated it. And it was a lot of fun for that aspect. So yeah, like a really good shout, a really good shout. I'll give a quick shout out to a game called The Darkness.
01:07:58
Speaker
as mafia enforcer who's targeted for assassination who realizes discovers that he has demon powers kind of use them to enact his revenge i really really liked it like it's been a long time i've played it and i really actually want to go back and play it think about it again but yeah i really enjoyed that one so i'd give an honorable mention to that one
01:08:16
Speaker
We knew it was going to look back to me. We got to say Sonic, I remember. In Airborne, there's Nazis who wear gas masks and wield heavy machine guns. It's amazing. Tell me more after this episode.
Was 2007 the Best Year in Gaming?
01:08:37
Speaker
So I tell you what, let's get into our final part here and talk about is this really the best year in gaming history? So I'll give you my opinion quickly here. You can tell me what you think, tell me if you agree or disagree.
01:08:54
Speaker
Thank you for listening. See you next week. No, I'm good. No, no, no. I think if you look at it, I think there's other years in gaming history that are probably more historically important. Something like probably 1985, which is the one that brought the gaming industry back from its massive crash.
01:09:11
Speaker
A couple of years before, thanks Atari. You know, you had the first Super Mario Bros. There's the Atari battery. We're getting all the stereo, we're getting all the cliches out. And that was Super Mario Bros starting in 1985. 1998, another one, you know, like what kind of games began to compete as a series form of entertainment. So, you know, you had like Half-Life, Ocarina of Time, Metal Gear Solid.
01:09:37
Speaker
And you can argue as well that there's like some years that have had a better lineup of games. Like, go look at 2004. 2004's lineup of games is insane. Like, I'll list a couple here. Halo 2, Half-Life 2, GTA San Andreas, World of Warcraft, Star Wars Night of the Republic. It's an insane year.
01:09:53
Speaker
Like just in terms of this game list, but I think 2007 kind of marries both these concepts together because not only do you have this great catalog of games released, but I think it really defines the landscape of the modern gaming industry. So, you know, developers were really getting kind of get into grips with the console hardware of the seventh generation.
01:10:11
Speaker
And they were releasing games that you do visually, mechanically, and narratively. It's pretty stunning for the time. And if you look at the franchises, we talked about this, that were released in 2007, they became mainstays of the gaming in years to come. And some like Assassin's Creed remain in that position. You had great games on every system, basically. And a lot of games set the template for their respective genres. So like CODS forwarded that for FPS games, Uncharted for Action Adventure, as we said, Rock Band for rhythm games.
01:10:39
Speaker
You know, the popularity of online multiplayer increased rapidly in 2007 with Halo 3, Team Fortress 2.
Promise of the HD Gaming Era
01:10:45
Speaker
And I think, like, crucially, I mentioned this before, I would say as a final point, like, I think 2007 would be kind of delivered on the promise of the HD era of gaming. Yeah. And just set the stage for what's going to head. So that's what I think about it. Like, do you agree, disagree? What do you think? I disagree just because I'm pretty. There's a fair reason to disagree. Thank you for joining me. No, I'm joking.
01:11:07
Speaker
Now, in all seriousness, I totally agree with that. As she said, there were definitely other iconic years. I would agree that 2007 maybe wasn't the year that defined it, but see, this is the thing though. Gaming is, and I don't want to get too philosophical here, but gaming is an ever-changing landscape.
Shift to Games Requiring Patches
01:11:28
Speaker
It really is, isn't it? Because as I was saying before, I honestly feel as if gaming has, for better or worse, I think maybe slightly for better, but you know, it's a very grey area. It's completely changed. You've gone from the days of we would get a game that had to be polished on release to games that are half baked now, but because we have the ability to, you know, like patch them and everything, it's
01:11:55
Speaker
Technically, they still had that in 2007, but they were more likely to push out a game that was going to be finished, if you know what I mean. They weren't just going to push out a game and be like, this is rubbish. It's half-baked. We're just going to throw out, unless you're all coerced. Sonic 06.
01:12:15
Speaker
I feel as if it's definitely a year that is like a bright spot in gaming history because I'm gonna be honest and I don't know how you feel about this but I recently or not recently but over the years I have been getting a lot of like gaming apathy like did you feel like this where sometimes you just go on the game you start
2007 as a 'Goldilocks Year' in Gaming
01:12:37
Speaker
playing it and you just think I can't be bothered with this and you just turn it off
01:12:41
Speaker
and you go to look at the gaming news and it's just nothing but scandal about how you know cyberpunk is the worst thing since uh bardemic or you know like this game isn't working oh there's microtransactions and that it's few and far between nowadays that we're getting good news and again whether that's like a good thing that we're challenging these companies more or not
01:13:06
Speaker
Because you know it is, it's good to hold, and sorry this is a tangent, but it is good that people are kind of holding them more accountable, but at the same time it's not like, and maybe because we were teenagers, but it's not like in those days where gaming was a completely different thing in 2007 compared to what it is now. And I mean it was completely different compared to what it was in the 90s. You know in the 90s it was
01:13:28
Speaker
Haha funny Italian plumber and blue hedgehog, you know that then evolved into haha military shooters to sandbox games to now it's battle royale simulators You know, it's it just keeps changing business models keep changing I feel as if though for 2007 it hit a sweet spot. I feel as if in
01:13:51
Speaker
spoilers for if we ever go ahead but like I feel as if like up to 2010 maybe that's where it peaked but 2007 was 2007 was definitely that just right it was a Goldilocks years I would say yeah you know it wasn't too cynical it wasn't too you know obviously unless you chatted on Xbox live but we'll just brush that under the table like so many of
01:14:15
Speaker
a gaming failure to game in. But it wasn't the worst, it wasn't... I wouldn't say it was hugely the best, but at the same time, it's one of the most nostalgic years of gaming. And I would agree. I feel as if we don't get many of
Nostalgia vs. Today's Gaming News
01:14:31
Speaker
those years. I don't feel as if, especially us, because I know we talk about a lot of games where
01:14:36
Speaker
because it's funny because I'm thinking back to when we were talking about like Halo and Black Ops especially for Call of Duty 1 and it seems as if the theme was we begin really strong saying this game was great the next game was also great the next game was
01:14:51
Speaker
okay and then it just kind of goes in the downward spiral of it's getting worse and worse and maybe that's because we're getting older maybe it's because you know there'll be a whole host of reasons but it's the fact that 2007 is just it's like his own capsule if you know I mean just to kind of fondly look back on to say oh this is when the orange box came out this is when you know Hero 3 came out modern warfare pokemon
01:15:17
Speaker
It is. It's a nice era to look back on. We don't get enough good news nowadays. It's true. I was just saying it's true.
Economic Context of Gaming, Then and Now
01:15:27
Speaker
It's why we've got to put on our rose-tinted glasses and just like, look back. The good old days. But instead of actual money, you had to pay through Microsoft budgets. No. This is when we had money as well. This was before the 2008 recession as well. Oh Jesus, yeah. Probably a good time.
01:15:46
Speaker
It's probably a good time to invest in gaming. Indeed, it's true. If you knew where it was going as well, yeah. Bye bye bye. Oh absolutely. And I mean don't get me wrong, they're still cheap on Steam, but yeah, just type into Google. That would be my final closing statement. Go into Google, type in 2007 games and if you can get them cheap, yeah, just pick them up, get a couple of snacks, set aside some time and yeah, just enjoy yourself. It's an awesome year for video games and I do completely agree with you.
01:16:15
Speaker
Look at that, what a nice way to close with congeniality and shared opinions all round. I still disagree with you though. I still fundamentally disagree.
Generational Shifts in Gaming
01:16:27
Speaker
Yeah, for petty and or legal reasons, I still disagree but... Wasn't seven sucks. Zero out of ten. Zero out of ten, yeah. I'm the one that's bringing down the Metacritic score for these games. And I'd do it again if I could. You monster.
01:16:45
Speaker
do you have any final thoughts on what we've discussed? I would just say go check them out like if you haven't already because I honestly feel as if a lot of people are in that mindset of because I honestly get really excited when people haven't played a game that like I've played and I've really enjoyed it and they've been like oh yeah
01:17:04
Speaker
I haven't played this game, like Castle Crashers for example with you, and I know it's a running meme that I go on about it a lot, but genuinely, it was a game that I played at university, I had a lot of fun with it, and I just wanted to share that kind of joy and that nostalgia with somebody else. Whether they were forced to or not for legal reasons, I can't comment.
01:17:25
Speaker
You know, it's like sharing... I mean that is gaming as a whole, isn't it? It's shared experience and just... because you do get like a lot of adverts like that nowadays which is very depressing considering we run the hurdle towards our thirties and it's like that's a scary thought to think years and years ago we were playing on these consoles that nowadays are considered retro.
01:17:47
Speaker
Yeah. Like, I mean, I have ranted about this before, but remember, in fact, were you there when we went to that Comic Con? And there was a retro gaming room and it had like a 360 and a Wii and everything. And I don't know whether they were memeing or not. That was like a couple of years ago.
01:18:04
Speaker
but it's weird to think that that's the way it's going now. Now a lot of gaming companies obviously they're marketing to kids because you know that's where the money is but at the same time they also have an understanding that a lot of the core demographic have grown up and there's all that nostalgia pandering as well when you know
01:18:22
Speaker
the advert where it's like the guy who's supposed to be in his thirties but he's got like grey hair and everything and it's like a bugger of Nintendo.
Marketing Nostalgia in Gaming
01:18:30
Speaker
And he like comes out and he's like, oh what's that you're playing son? I'm playing Pokemon! He's like, oh Pokemon! I used to play that and it's like...
01:18:40
Speaker
It's like, I know, this isn't your grandpa's poking, you know, like the whole back and forth. It's like, wow, great job marketing team, I will never buy a Nintendo product. Insert two days later when I buy another Nintendo product. But you know what I mean? It's like, that, like...
01:18:57
Speaker
fondly looking back and wanting to pass on that experience to future generations because when we were younger you know how you get those YouTube comments where it's like kids these days were born in the wrong generation or kids these days have never played you know XYZ and you're like people say oh Fortnite sucks kids haven't played you know that and and the kids
01:19:18
Speaker
in a cynical way, I suppose that's them wanting to share their experiences with other people, whether it's mean-spirited or not. That was a long way just to say that, but it is. It's good points though. Yeah, it's trying to pass the torch on.
01:19:35
Speaker
Yeah, I would say that as well. Go play these games. That's what it is. Go play. Go check out and just remember what it is. As we wrap up, here's one last question for you. Is there one game that stands out to you from 2007?
01:19:49
Speaker
Honestly, probably Halo. It sounds like a really weird thing to say, or not weird but maybe genetic. Because, you know, there's so many good games. There was Portal, there was Modern Warfare, Bioshock, you know, all of these games. But for me personally, gaming has usually been quite a solitary experience with the exception of
01:20:10
Speaker
If it's a very popular game like Pokémon, for example, this is the real-time section of Chat Tsunami, so embrace yourselves. But you know, when I was younger, I was a very shy kid. Still am. Not a kid. Just shy. It's like, I wish. But I was really shy, so it was really hard for me to open up to people. Unless, you know, we had a shared interest, like gaming or something like that. Nowadays it's a bit better, you know, because obviously you can just talk about anything, and if you don't like a person you can block them.
01:20:39
Speaker
Anyway, but with gaming, Halo was kind of the first game that at least it exposed me, both to the FPS genre as a whole, but it also exposed me to that kind of wider world of gaming, that you could just switch on your PC, play with someone halfway across the world. Whether they, you know, EO Slurge or not, that's a whole different issue.
Rise of Online Play in Late 2000s
01:21:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's just as weird that the world suddenly became that much smaller, and I think it was that moment that kind of dawned on me that, oh my god, is this how gaming's going to go? And nowadays it's like, see this is the weird thing, it's commonplace nowadays, isn't it? Yeah, like, I feel as if in 2000 and, I mean, you did have online play, but I feel as if the late 2000s was when it started to really pick up steam.
01:21:29
Speaker
yeah no pun intended but you know like it was really the time that people started to say oh online plays are both profitable and it's you know it's a great way to connect with your friends without you know having to invite them over not that i'm saying i didn't like my friends at the time but you know it's like
01:21:46
Speaker
Yeah, it's like maybe they couldn't come over so they just played, you know, online at night. You know, it's that kind of thing. I know community thing. You're totally right. And that was, as you say, that was just something that was getting huge in 2007 and as you say, just exploded.
Personal Online Gaming Memories
01:22:00
Speaker
Can I just share, like, one quick funny memory from back then? I always remember, I think it was around the time that I first met you and we were starting to become friends. Like, how was the initial stages? And I remember we were playing, like, I think Halo or
01:22:14
Speaker
college duty. It might have actually been a GTA and it was still when I was living with my parents at the time. I think my brother as well had come over to stay and I think because you and I were having such a good time and I kept laughing I was trying not to laugh so hard because this was like in the middle of the night so everyone was sleeping but it got to the stage I was laughing so much that my brother actually came through and he was like we are trying to sleep.
01:22:39
Speaker
And I was just like, yeah, I'll keep it down, I'm sorry. But it's those kind of memories that you make though. I remember that, it was funny, I was laughing because I remember that as well. I remember people were like, I'll have to keep it down now. Like, oh god, like proper like we were, like, you know.
01:22:53
Speaker
like a sleepover type thing but that's the great thing about it moving to that online for as much as like there are negative aspects to it like oh yeah they're so positive because you can just forge these memories you know and it's so much easier to just connect absolutely in that way so no I totally
01:23:11
Speaker
I totally agree. It's a good choice, Halo 3, just in that regard. I think if I had to pick one, I'll slightly cheat and say the orange box, just because I think it's incredible that a developer slash publisher made something like the orange box, and it should be held up in like, this is what you just aspire to make. You should get this collection of just flawless, well, not quite flawless, but very close to flawless games is the one I would pick. Thank you so much, Nancy, for giving me the chance.
01:23:40
Speaker
battle on about this topic. Hopefully you and everyone listening enjoyed it. And as I said at the beginning, rest assured, normal programming will be resumed next week and I'll be safely back in the back seat. Well, we'll see what the people say.
01:23:55
Speaker
The people must decide, they must believe. So, yeah, Adam, thank you so much for taking us through this rabbit walk of nostalgia. It was my pleasure. Thank you so much again for enabling me. I'm sure everybody will look forward to when it's back to the way it should be. Oh, no, no, no. The people have spoken. They want more to the sandwich. Be careful what you wish for.
Social Media and Channel Content
01:24:19
Speaker
Don't rub the sandwich for wishes, that's not how it works. Yeah, you won't get wishes, you'll just get crumbs. Yes, so don't get crumbs if he attracts ants. And trust me, they're a pain in the arse. Anyway, enough about my hatred towards ants and the wealth of starship troopers.
01:24:35
Speaker
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01:24:58
Speaker
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01:25:28
Speaker
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01:25:56
Speaker
Oh, no, I don't think I'm ready. No, you do. I'm too nervous. No, you're ready for the stay. You're ready for the stay safe, awesome and hydrated. Come on. That was what I was born. I couldn't actually remember. Okay, right. I've got it now. Well, thank you all for listening and we'll catch you again next week. And so in the meantime, stay safe, stay awesome and most importantly, stay hydrated. Bye guys. Bye.