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Twitch, Podcasting and Richie Rich?! || Chatsu Cafe #2
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Welcome to the Chatsu Café traveller! Rest your weary bones at this cosy café and listen to its patrons chat about their day!
In the cafe today I am joined by the one and only Andrew aka Greenshield95 as we reminisce over our content creation journey during the 2020s. When was the last time Satsu and Andrew streamed together? Are we living in an age of imitation within the content creation sphere? And what happened in that Richie Rich film?! Grab your beverage of choice and join us for a chill time as we take another trip down our time as content creators!
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Transcript
Welcome to Chatsu Cafe
00:00:14
Speaker
Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of Chatsu Cafe. My name's Satsunami, and joining me is none other than the one and only Andrew, aka Greenshield, aka Zeldafan123. How are you doing? Not all those are true, so that's only a half-truth.
00:00:34
Speaker
Hey, that's a half-truth. Ah, some sort references. And just as we have opened the cafe doors, we have a load of other fellow patrons that have come through the door.
00:00:45
Speaker
We have Robotic Battle Toaster bringing his friends. We've got Moon Eye Plays. We've got S. Banks, of course, friend of the podcast. We've got High Score High Stakes.
00:00:56
Speaker
This rig is top tier. Thank
Rebranding and Personal Branding
00:00:58
Speaker
you. This cafe is relatively new. We've only used it once with the one and only Martin McAllister. I was actually telling you this the other day, I think, that whenever I'm introducing other people on the podcast, you know, I'll say, oh, it's Andrew. It's Adam.
00:01:15
Speaker
And it's like, oh, it's Martin McAllister. Like he is some kind of Smash Bros. character. Well, he's like Dwayne the Rock Johnson. You have to say the whole thing. You can't just say Dwayne. Like, how weird would that be? Mr. Johnson? Mr. McAllister? I'm a huge fan.
00:01:33
Speaker
But I did have a bit of a rebrand a couple of years ago. That's the douchiest thing I think I've ever said. a rebrand. Yeah, well, because I i was Green Shield 95 when we first started. And then I kind of decided going into what we were doing with podcasts that I'd rather people just knew my name because I think that that's kind of yeah sometimes better to kind of just get your name out there. Not that I necessarily am trying to like get big, get famous kind of thing, but just felt from a marketing perspective and a just general kind of like people knowing who I am because I'm very i'm quite comfortable with
Podcast Guest Introductions and Name Mix-ups
00:02:04
Speaker
that. I know a lot of people don't want that and that's perfectly fine. But I was quite keen to transition from Martin, let's say,
00:02:10
Speaker
Mark McCasting. The truth comes out. From Greenshield 95 to Andrew. Greenshield itself was just an in-joke for my school. It's like a play on my actual surname, whereas I felt like it just felt bit more personal to go with Andrew. Yeah, because I remember when I first heard that, and I don't know why, because I know you're a big Zelda fan, so I immediately thought, oh, Greenshield, Zelda Shield. Fun fact, guys, Zelda Shield is blue. Well, sorry, Link Shield is blue. I was about to pull you up on that. I was like, are you really doing this right now? we doing it?
00:02:46
Speaker
We're getting into this now. Are we getting into it now? but We could have our first on-air argument. Please, robotic battle toaster's just rolled up. We can't fight in front of- Don't embarrass me in front of my friends!
00:02:59
Speaker
Look at all these patrons here. They're all like, you know, when you go into the- Well, I'm saying this as if I have any experience, but you know when characters go into the Wild West saloon and everyone just puts down their glasses? It just looks like, hmm. It's like that. of Everybody looking at us going, oh, when are they gonna stop fighting?
00:03:19
Speaker
Never. Never. We're doing it for the content, guys. It's all fake. It's everything so manufactured and fake. Unlike wrestling, which is 100% true, that was something that Martin McAllister told me to put in the script, so. Oh, I see. Fair. Okay. I'm gonna get an angry message. Is that something we can do? Can I just slide things into to future episodes, you have to say? I mean, well within then reason.
00:03:38
Speaker
Yes. Oh, okay. I'll work on it. I'll do some pictures. Yeah, we'll be back in a couple of hours for Chatsu Cafe
Behind-the-Scenes Content on Patreon
00:03:44
Speaker
After Dark. Ooh. For our spicy takes. Yeah, things get interesting, guys.
00:03:50
Speaker
Yeah, well, true, true. If I didn't tell myself that, please everybody come back. Everyone listening, they're not used to hearing what's essentially kind of the behind the scenes of us just talking nonsense, where which you often will edit out. It's now just me just doing terrible jokes. Sometimes we include it on the Patreon as like little bloopers and stuff. So a little bit of behind the scenes kind of look into how much nonsense we
Animation Month Review: Detective Pikachu and Your Name
00:04:12
Speaker
talk usually. At least 75% of that actually makes it to the show. I mean, that is true.
00:04:17
Speaker
Still mostly nonsense. Because, I mean, as of recording this episode in particular, we are just wrapping up animation month, which has been absolutely fantastic. I'm not going to lie. it has been such a whirlwind of going through different topics. Martin and I, we went through Wallace and Gromit, and what was the first episode we did? Puss in Boots of the Last Wish. That was the one. And with yourself, of course, we did Detective Pikachu this Friday, although when this episode comes out in audio-only format, or when you're re-watching this, the episode for Your Name comes out. I said it in that episode, and I'll say it again when I say Your Name. I mean the anime movie. Not Your Name, Andrew. Although, yes, nice name. It's all right. I might rebrand to Greenshield.
00:05:02
Speaker
I swear to God. but I swear to God, Green Andrew. Grand Rue. Grand Rue. New D&D character picked out right there.
Funny Moments and Bloopers
00:05:11
Speaker
Do you know, there's a blooper. I was looking for basically funny content to make TikToks out of and upload to have some kind of credibility. Hashtag, it does not work.
00:05:22
Speaker
But anyway, I was looking through my files and I've got a couple of them that are just nonsensical titles. So for some reason, I've got one that's just, I think, put the chickens in the bag and it's from when you and I were doing the Living in the Legends of Zelda universe episode.
00:05:40
Speaker
It was when I was saying, you know, what would happen if you grabbed a chicken in and you threw it in and... A cuckoo, please. Well, a cuckoo, yes, of course. A cuckoo chicken. Yeah, I was like, oh, what if you threw one of them? Because in the games, if you hurt them, they all flop to you. I was like, what if you robbed a bank in Hyrule? It was like, put the chicken in the bank!
00:05:59
Speaker
And it's like, why have I got this saved as its own thing? That's like 13 seconds or something of us performing a heist in Hyrule. But the other one is when you, Martin, and I were doing the, I think it was the four-year anniversary episode, I want to say. It's when, I don't know, was it you that called me Satsubold? Or was it Martin?
00:06:20
Speaker
I don't remember. I genuinely can't remember. I don't even remember the context. I just remember someone saying, instead of Satsunami, Satsubold. And then all of a sudden, we all just absolutely lost it. It's just like, Satsubold.
00:06:34
Speaker
ah Please, that was my father's name. Because that's actually something that's quite funny, considering you've gone for a normal name, and I've been stuck with Satsunami because that was the name I chose for my stream. And then, yeah...
00:06:47
Speaker
Long story short. Yeah, I am stuck with the name, the myth, the legend, Satsubold. So going forward, Andrew, I'd like you to Yeah, I'll to you as Satsubold from this day
Upcoming Episode: Emperor's New Groove
00:06:57
Speaker
4th. Thank you.
00:06:58
Speaker
But yeah, of course, next week for Animation Month, we have a very special episode that I am totally, totally, totally not still editing. That, of course, being the Emperor's New Groove. Honestly, that was such a fun episode to do, wasn't it? Yeah, it was really interesting because it was a lot of kind of discussion over early 2000s Disney and just kind of where both we were at and where Disney was at at that time and the general kind of movie landscape. And then talking about what the creation of Empress New Groove looked like with regards to the huge production production. issues that it had, how long it took to come out, what it originally was based on. There's so much that we do kind of get into that is really, really interesting. And also we're providing our own opinions on the movie. Spoilers, we both love Emperor's New Groove. A lot of it is waxing lyrical about different parts of inner characters. i mean, it's such a fun film as well, but I genuinely thought when, and I say this in the episode as well, with spoilers, but when we were doing it, I thought this is going to be a really quick review. How many times have I said that, Andrew? We do any. And I was like, yeah, we're just going to go in. We are going to talk about the film. Oh, it's a funny film. And... and
00:08:09
Speaker
And partly there is a whole controversy behind the film that was supposed to be this huge Disney musical. Was that right in the scene? Yeah, it could be one of the Disney musical movies where you have all these characters that have preset songs. But I think there's going to be a lot of influence from, was a Sting?
00:08:28
Speaker
that was doing that one. I was trying to remember if it was him or not, but he was very heavily involved. And then when they did all these production changes, that side of things got cut. Sting got kind of cut out as well. And it became a very different film, different story. It seems like a very different idea to what they initially had thought of doing. Again, I say it's an episode as well, but I remember the Simpsons episode with Sting in it.
00:08:49
Speaker
And it's like he's digging the hole and he's like, Sting, you're tired. You should probably rest. Not while one of my fans needs me. I don't think I've ever heard Bart play. any of your songs. Marge, he's good at digging.
00:09:00
Speaker
Stop it. actually had made a Emperor's New Groove reference this the other day. My wife's sister has actually just moved in thus recently, and we were sort of taking stuff back and forth from her previous home to here, and her dad and her left 15 minutes before us, maybe. We arrived five minutes before them when we got there. We weren't firing along the highway or anything like that. We going a very normal speed, and it felt very much like when Kronk pulls the map out at the end, was like, the logic of it just makes no sense, really.
00:09:26
Speaker
I thought you were going to say, pull the lever. Wrong lever. Have you ever had that, though? Speaking of references and things, have you ever had that where you make a reference? Because I've had a couple I've made to you, and you kind of look at me as if you want.
00:09:38
Speaker
But have you ever had that where you make a reference and the person you're talking to is just like, what are you on about? Satsu, that's like 90% of my interactions with people. Is it just avatar references that you throw about? No, it's everything. I'm so terminally online and so deeply embedded in pop culture that I don't think I've had an original thought in about 15 years. know what the worst thing is See when there's a meme online and, you know, insert any meme because, let's face it, this particular thing is timeless, but... You have a particular thing that happens and then it hits the mainstream news or whatever.
00:10:12
Speaker
And then someone turns around and goes, oh my God, have you seen this particular weird thing? And you look at it and you're like, I was there when it was written. Don't cite. this black magic to us and terminally online what are you on about yeah at this point it's chronically mean that's the thing though especially when you're promoting things for the podcast and even when you and i were streaming together were both keeping our ear to the ground going all right what are we gonna stream what are we gonna play are we gonna play something that's quite popular a bit like when we did warzone together which
00:10:46
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I was saying to you before we came
Warzone and ChatsuPlays Highlights
00:10:49
Speaker
on as well. And there we are. I mean, how long has it been since we last played Warzone together? It was probably about two or three years ago now. Really? Wow. I think it must have been, because i can't think of any time recently that we would have done it. It was most popular around pandemic times. Like, we played a decent amount in, 2021, 2022, think.
00:11:07
Speaker
When we did our Let's Play channel, we had a fair bit of Warzone content on there, and that must have been three years old now. I'm looking it up. I mean, you have highlights from a year ago. oh no, but you imported everything over, didn't you? I imported it to our handy dandy Let's Play channel.
00:11:24
Speaker
Well, yeah, the kind of rebranded Let's Play channel ChatsuPlays, because previously it was called T-Posing. Oh yeah. Yeah, does that still exist? and Yes and no. I mean, we could rebrand it and put it out as Shatsu T-Posing. No, but i mean, like, are the videos still live?
00:11:40
Speaker
No, I think I took them down, but I put them up on Patreon. At least the film one. Oh, they're on your other YouTube channel. Yeah, I don't know if the full ones are up there. The highlights are because I took a lot of episodes that we did back then and then just kind of cut them up. and Because it is so difficult to get noticed on YouTube and I feel like one of those notice me red pandas.
00:12:03
Speaker
But not as me! I'm making content! And people are like, i know what you're saying, but no. don't want to watch your stuff. You have Best of Satsunami featuring Greenshield plays Pokemon Emerald episode one and then no episode two. The optimism in labelling episode one.
00:12:18
Speaker
Well, the funny thing is, i could have sworn we actually filmed the whole thing. Well, I say filmed, we streamed the whole thing, didn't we? Yeah, we did. I remember. And we used to do some grinding, getting Pokemon levels up off stream so that when we were on stream, it wasn't so boring. Do you remember? don't remember that time though of my streaming. Because that was the early days, wasn't it? Was that not one of the first streams that you and I did together? ah Yeah, it would have been one of, if not the first stream we did together, because it was pre-podcast as well, I'm pretty sure. I think it was back, it might have been pre-pandemic. It might have been 2019 or 2020. It must have been though, I'm just trying to remember because yeah that was the early scuff days of streaming on Chatsunami and well I say Chatsunami, it was formerly Chatsunami 42 and then it went to Chatsunami now. Because that's the thing, it's like I barely,
Shift from Live Streaming to Podcasting
00:13:08
Speaker
other than of course bringing back the wonderful Chatsu cafe, we have signs over there, we've got signs over there, you probably can't see what I'm doing, I'm pointing here, there and everywhere. But yeah, before that, it was mainly a channel for gaming and such. And I think for at least three years, I was very consistent. And then I really died down for the podcast when we really got that going, didn't it? Yeah, podcast became much more... All-consuming. Well, not necessarily that, but also that they were pretty chill with regards to not having to worry about entertaining a live audience. We say in front of a live audience. Don't worry about them. They're fine now.
00:13:46
Speaker
Yeah, but that you can edit after the fact and just kind of make it your own project rather than it just being the chaotic nature of live streaming. I remember saying to pre podcast that we should look at doing that because I think that it would better suit what we're doing. And also it's easier for us to work around our different time zones because I live in North America on Eastern time and you're in the UK that there's a five hour time difference. So having the ability for us to be like, okay, we're going to do it at this time. And then we doesn't be like a consistent, we're going to go live at this time, we can be like, all right, we're not free in that day, but we're free on that day. So we can record but you'll still have it edited and up for that given day that there's not that pressure to be able to schedule both of us in. I think that is very handy. Yeah, because when I started it all the way back in, would you believe it was like October, I want to say, the first episode was streamed on Twitch? Because it didn't officially come out, aka I was too lazy edit it until then, but the first official episode came out in November 30th, 2020. It's
00:14:50
Speaker
crazy to think that nearly five years on we're still doing it because it almost became a part of the live shows of shatsunami or satsunami remember when we had all that free time of lockdown like right okay mondays we'll do a stream wednesdays the podcast fridays we'll do a let's play video and that'll go out oh my god where has the time gone See, I somewhat had that, but I was fortunate in some ways, in many ways, really, that my job was always remote during the pandemic. So I didn't lose time off work. I was just continuing to work the entire
Pandemic's Influence on Content Creation
00:15:26
Speaker
time. There was no redundancy or long break or something. And like part of me wishes i had that because everyone was doing fun stuff while I was still working. But at the same time, they made sure that sort of financially it was a lot healthier position for me than a lot of other people. Who needs money when you have podcasts?
00:15:43
Speaker
Who needs money when you have content? Look all this rich content we've got, yeah. I just remember at the time, obviously, everybody was doing it. Whether it was streaming, whether it was Let's Plays, it was just absolutely overwhelming to see the amount of people deciding to create content. And for all the people who have continued to do it after the lockdowns, and this isn't my weird roundabout way to be like, I'm patting myself on the back. I don't have an emote for that. I can't move my hand.
00:16:12
Speaker
I can't move my hands to give me a pen in the bag. And I have just seen that we have two notes that have been left here at the desk. are very good trend, Wonko The Sane, has come in saying that after working in Japan for nigh three years, I miss my pandemic free time. Honestly, I can see why.
00:16:32
Speaker
You can see why. For anyone who has just arrived in the cafe, please feel free to grab yourself a drink, whether it is a nice tea or a... I don't know what that is on your table, Andrew. A milkshake?
00:16:45
Speaker
It can be whatever you want. There's definitely like some sort of cake with some strawberries on it. And then, yeah, maybe like a float? Like an ice cream float? You ever had one of those? They're disgusting. Terrible idea. Ice cream float? Yeah. Is it that bad? Well, you know how I feel about Coca-Cola. LAUGHTER The purity of it.
00:17:00
Speaker
Well, that's the thing. Uncut Coca-Cola. On the rocks. I don't like it except for like ice. I don't really like Coke to be diluted or changed in its flavor. I like the flavor of Coca-Cola and I love ice cream. When you're combining them, you've kind of just got this weird milky soda-y contraption that fulfills neither desire. You've kind of ruined two good things.
00:17:19
Speaker
I honestly can't remember if I've had one, to be honest. Mind you, I was 11. It's been... It's been like 18 years since I had one. I might like them more now because I am a bit of of less fussy eater in general, but it still kind repulses me, to be honest.
00:17:34
Speaker
So if I don't have to have one, I won't. But if they're going, I'll try one again to see if I've gotten used to it yet. Well, if they're going, if there's like a float salesman on the side of the street. If you're not like, all right. So you're with your honey at the ice cream bar. It's the 1950s. You have to bear that in mind. It's the 1950s. You're at the local ice cream sundae bar place and you've got a really big glass with two straws either side because you're both sipping from either side. I'm wearing a sick leather jacket in this. The jacket's very important this.
00:18:02
Speaker
You've got a new haircut, yeah. Oh, not only a new haircut, it's greased, I've got a little comb, I keep using the comb just repeatedly, and I'm sipping on my float, and like, life is good, life is good, but it could be better.
00:18:15
Speaker
The ice cream could instead be in a bowl, and the Coke could instead be on its own in a glass, and I enjoy them separately. i don't know about you, have you ever had Coca-Cola while having a dessert? Oh, okay. I see your game here. Yeah, yeah. What, you mean like when you have ice cream in your mouth, and then you go to take a drink, and then you're like, eh... Kind of like it's sugar on top of sugar. I have a bit of a sweet tooth, not like a huge sweet tooth. I enjoy sweet things, but that feels like overkill. It leaves very kind of gross, sicky taste in your mouth. Yeah, I can see that. Have you ever had one of those? See, the utterly abominable sundaes, you know, the ones where they just pack sugar and sugar on top and you're just like, okay, first of all, mama, sir, how the hell am I supposed to eat this?
00:18:55
Speaker
See? are you trying to put me in the sugar coma here? I've not really because those kind of repulse me because I feel like yeah those are just for Instagram. No one truly enjoys, I can't believe anyone would actually enjoy those mukbang content desserts. They're revolting. They've piled ice cream in there, they've got then got fudge sauce and then they throw some Oreos in there and then they put like a slice of cake in there and then a donut and then they fire more whipped cream on it and then they put more chocolate sauce on there. Then like isn't this yummy? Wouldn't you want this? it's like no, no I wouldn't. That just put me in coma. Yeah, because those types of desserts are made for children. And I don't mean they're made for children to eat. You would kill a child if you gave them that. That's sugar. It's like what do you expect in a Richie Rich thing where that's what he's served? It's not a real, it's like what a child imagines that they want. But if they were actually ever given one, they'd take two bites of it and be like, no, I'm good. I can't believe in 2025 I've got to the Richie Rich core of the internet.
00:19:50
Speaker
It'd be cool if you had a McDonald's in there. It'd be cool. It's like, no, I wouldn't. You'd be going to bed and all you'd smell is fries. I'm downstairs. See, when you watch that film, and I'm going to put my panda cards on the table here, but it's been
Humorous Recollections: Richie Rich
00:20:03
Speaker
years since I've seen that film, but that's the only bit I remember from it, that they had That had a McDonald's?
00:20:08
Speaker
Yeah, like a deal with McDonald's or something. I don't even know what the plot of Richard was. Was he just- he couldn't get friends and he was just horribly rich. Yeah, his parents coddled him and he never- I guess because he was so rich he could never really truly believe that anyone was his friend just because they were his friend and they just liked him for his money. I haven't seen that movie in forever but Twitter keeps just posting random clips of not very good movies in the same way you used to see iconic clips from these great films kind of thing. Now it's just random 45 second clips from Richie Rich where butler's escaping from prison and is given like the magic toothpaste that'll dissolve the bars on his cell.
00:20:43
Speaker
That's what they're doing is iconic clips. I do not remember that part of Richie Rich at all. but Was he a Bond villain or something? No, Richie smuggled it in. This was all in the clip, by the way. Richie goes to the guard and is like, my my uncle needs a very special toothpaste.
00:20:57
Speaker
And the guard's like, okay. And Richie gives it over. And the butler doesn't even know until he goes to brush his teeth. And all of sudden he looks down and it's only the melty plasticky bit. The head of the toothbrush has melted away and it's non-existent. He's like, oh, isn't this a remarkable thing? And it's like, ah, yes. Random American guy putting on a British accent to be the butler. i thought he was just giving it so he can make a ship or something.
00:21:17
Speaker
but Again, I've not seen this movie in 15 plus years. I'm pulling this out my ass. There's definitely a scene of the butler beating up a really tough guy in the prison. I need to re-watch this film because it's wild. And again, i can't believe the takeaway of a film where, you know, it's like the richest boy in the neighborhood or whatever. He's got... acid toothpaste.
00:21:38
Speaker
He's got a butler that kicks ass. And the only thing I can remember is, oh yeah, he had a McDonald's in his house. That is pathetic. Speaking of those clips though, do you get the, you know that song that Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga did? That Die With A Smile? That is playing on absolutely everything. You know, it's a really sad scene that's like, oh doctor, am I gonna live? I don't know. blah blah blah. And then you hear just Bruno Mars singing over them like some angel of death. I don't remember. I mean, if I heard it, probably with a lot of these clips, it just auto plays and with no audio.
Bot-generated Content and Online Engagement Issues
00:22:14
Speaker
And I just don't want to click on it and listen to the audio because I also don't want to give them the I know it still gives them the interaction statistic, even if I like hover over it. Just on principle, I don't want to click on it because I'm like this is such slop. And it's definitely like a bot that just generates these things.
00:22:26
Speaker
The worst thing, not the worst thing, but one of the worst things about Twitter right now is that you'd see no actual engagement with anything. If you were to click on one of those videos, it's all just what movie at Grok? Richie was truly a great servant to the community in this scene.
00:22:39
Speaker
What, you mean like the obvious bot posts? Yeah, there's so many like things where is it clearly has evaluated what's happening in the scene, but makes the most milquetoast response you could possibly ever imagine. And so if it's a real person, you are the most boring MF-er that's ever existed, or you're a bot. You can't be genuine with those kinds of opinions. It's so poor. I don't know, you get a lot of that either with a lot of Twitter posts as well, because trust me, as someone who spends their time trying to promote the hell of the podcast there, and you know, you just see all of these weird posts that are clearly bots.
00:23:12
Speaker
Like, you know that whole dead internet theory where it's a lot of people saying that there's pockets of the internet, that it's just bots talking to bots, it's not even real people. And you know, in years to come, all of these historians are going to be like, hey kids, you want to hear about this dead internet theory?
00:23:29
Speaker
That is if historians haven't been outsourced of, as you said, Grok or insert any AI here, which do you feel as if it's getting worse, though, that all these AI content channels are just overrunning
TikTok Algorithm Frustrations
00:23:42
Speaker
the platform? Oh, totally. It's become such an unbearable platform now. Unfortunately, I have such a severe addiction to it that I have not been able to pry myself off of that app. Because there's a lot of stuff on there that I'm still getting benefit from. But it is such a painful experience now. managed to get off of Facebook. Facebook I stopped using years ago. i very rarely use Instagram. It's usually just I get messages from people like you that I go on to look at and respond to. When I get those, i then press like back on the message and my feed come up. Sometimes I'll scroll down, I'll find something funny and then I'll send it to you or my wife or my brother or something like that. And then TikTok, I kind of tried, but I wasn't willing to invest enough time into making the algorithm know what I like, because it just kept giving me this sloppy guy stuff. There was just like hot girls and bikinis and videos of guys speeding on the road and cops pulling them over and practical jokes and alpha males and the Andrew Tate generation kind of stuff.
00:24:35
Speaker
And I'm like, this isn't what I want. I couldn't figure out how to tell it. Stop showing me this. That's the thing, though, because, yeah, when you click the I'm not interested in this, you know, YouTube or Twitter or whatever, i go, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, see what you're saying. But how about just put it out there? Twitter is so bad for that. It just ignores you. There's so many super right wing things that pop on my feed. I could block them. And I have done that some of the times because I don't want to see a lot of that stuff. And so I've done that. But a lot of time I'll click not interested, but it does nothing. I just keep being given that stuff and I'm not searching it out. So there's no reason for the algorithm to give that to me organically. It's very much, it's pushing it. There was one day or two where it was really bad. Every second post that I scrolled by was aggressively right wing. It was super anti-immigration and anti-LGBT stuff. And I was like, why is my feed doing this? What's happening? It's now toned down a little bit, but yeah, I was genuinely like, oh my God, gonna have to leave the app because it's just become a complete nonsense.
00:25:30
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Fortunately, it's only now 55%. nonsense it reminds me of and i cannot remember for the life of me which youtuber this is so and the chance they ever a listen to this or watch this i apologize in advance but it was this youtuber who decided right what i'm gonna do and this was years ago they said right what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna log out of my account i'm just gonna come in as if oh i'm a guest i'm a casual viewer as it were and the first couple of videos, I want to say. They were alright, I think, for them. Like, oh, I want to talk about speedboats, or oh, I want to watch this and that.
00:26:05
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And then, all of a sudden, two videos later, it like, do you want to be a manly man? do you want to be a manly man and be a terrible person? And it's like, dude, what the hell? but I just came here to watch funny podcasts and things. Oh, you want podcasts? And then it's the worst. I genuinely keep getting, because obviously, no surprise here, I'm part of the podcast sphere within Twitter, but every time my heart just s sinks, every time I get one of these stupid clips from these certain podcasts, you know the ones I mean, the ones where it's like five guys and one girl and they're all talking about why women are inferior and that kind of stuff. Pretty much, yeah.
00:26:44
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And it's just absolutely disgusting content. You're sitting there going, why is this getting recommended? And you go by, but because you lingered for that one second more, that they'll go, hmm.
00:26:54
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I have such an annoying curiosity slash FOMO that I do linger long enough that sometimes i think the algorithm does think that I enjoy that content. Sometimes my morbid curiosity gets better for me and I want to see what the comments say. And so I'll click on it to see what the comments say. And then it's like, oh, I see you enjoyed that. Here's more regressively terrible stuff. Please, algorithm. them No.
00:27:13
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I don't know. Are you still on TikTok out curiosity before I go on this ramble? I mean, I have it. I kind of use it in the same thing as Instagram, where if people send me stuff, then I watch it. You and my wife, essentially. But I turned off notifications. Some of the apps are really annoying where you either turn off notifications and get nothing or you turn on notifications. But there isn't like an option to be like just when people send me stuff. It's always like Dwayne The Rock Johnson's just posted on Instagram. And I'm like, I don't care.
00:27:39
Speaker
Stop telling me this. That is one thing I genuinely hate about, especially for Twitter slash X, where I have a profile under Satsunami42, which I had when I started out and then I transitioned to Chatsunami.
00:27:55
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And I was like, right, okay, perfectly fine. I am sure there will be no problems in the future with this. And I remember I was sitting there and I thought, yeah, this is okay so far, no problem. And then I got one or two posts that got promoted and it was like really personal stories from people. like I'm not judging anyone who decides, oh, they've gone through a hard time, they're going to post their voice, their story there. But it was just how I never followed these certain people and...
00:28:23
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yeah Yeah, as you were saying there, it wasn't even the Rock Johnson, it was just at Random 42 who was like, oh yeah, do you want to check this out? And I'm like, who are you? but You know that way? It's like your grandparent or something, it's like, who's in my phone? like get them out, get out of my phone! Oh, it's a pain and I mean I'm the same I've got notifications completely off TikTok because the amount of these videos that get recommended lot of them are just absolute nonsense and obviously you get the ones that you think oh this is clever this is creative at
Bizarre TikTok Livestreams
00:28:59
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Chatsunami cough cough but they You get ones that are just, you know, especially the lives.
00:29:05
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Have you ever scrolled by them? Not really. I know a lot of people just try and make it like their lives are really interesting. And so they just go live just doing nothing. And they sit there just kind of looking at their phone. It's either that or it's the most bat, you know what, insane thing. And i don't mean that as a compliment. I remember one of my fellow friends in the Podfat Collective, she had sent through a screenshot to our group chat. And again, it's going back to what was saying before, all of someone saying, oh my God, it's terrible. And you're sitting there going, yeah, unfortunately I've seen this. And of course it was a guy who had like a toilet seat around his neck with, let's just say chocolate on it.
00:29:45
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And obviously it was fake and everything, but it was one of those things you just looked at and thought, wow, this is the internet now, guys. so on the internet that's one of my least favorite types of videos that you see at the moment they're super staged ones that are made for engagement interactions and stuff i mostly see them on twitter but it'll be like carol's mom on the phone knocking over a bunch of cans in a store and then the kids picking them up and helping the old man stack them and it's like how great young people are and it's like this was clearly a staged video so many of them are like this where it was like a super staged video benefit the doubt in that one there might be a store camera but for most of these it's like why would someone be recording this
00:30:18
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How would you have caught this on camera just magically? It's all so fake. And then you go to the comments and the comments are like, such a good deed done. Children really are the future. Again, bots, just go away. Why is this just dominating every kind of discourse now? Sometimes you'll see a genuinely interesting video that I want to see if someone knows more information about it. And it'll just be bots that are saying nothing. What it used to be, i remember back in the day, there'd be some accounts that post videos that were interesting, and you'd go into the comments, and would be other people trying to be comedians and try and get famous, and they'd be posting videos and memes and stuff in there. And so there was no discourse to be had on the original video, because everyone was just kind of posting other stuff to try and get likes and engagements, stuff like that. And that was its own kind of hell.
Pressure to Imitate in Content Creation
00:31:01
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so really twitter's just been terrible for the last five years if not longer but it just goes in waves of just annoying stuff yeah i honestly can't disagree with that it's a weird weird system i suppose and again that's something that i've talked about to other creators of course in the podcast and yourself at length to which you block me for legal reasons as a joke but yeah it's where are there's almost this
00:31:26
Speaker
pressure for a lot of creators to basically abandon their individuality and just say, right, you know what I want to be? I want to be the next, I don't know, Mr. Beast or I want to be the next top podcaster or well, not podcaster, but the top streamer, the top YouTuber, that kind of thing. And you're just kind of sitting there like, but you've already got a great thing going here. Why do you want to be somebody else kind of thing? It is bizarre. And again, I'm not criticising them for following the trend.
00:31:56
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But I saw a thing actually, it was that, is it Kai Senet I wanna say? I'm gonna be honest, I've just seen clips of the guy, he seems to be very popular and everything and he's doing great his channel. I say that, he's like a, not a millionaire, but he does really well with it and gets all of these celebrities in. but there was a thing I saw and it was saying how he wanted to create this streamer academy and that's not the first time I've seen this because I think it was Dubai that also had a similar thing. They said, oh we want to create this school or university where we can teach you to be the best streamer and it's like, I don't know about you but do you think Andrew that this is just going to create a conga line as it were? Funny thought, but conga line of just exactly the same type of creator as opposed to individual ones.
00:32:46
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Yeah, I mean, there's certainly argument there. I think that's already happened, to be honest. I think that there is a lot of just the same stuff, each to their own.
Standing Out with Personality in Content Creation
00:32:53
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It's very much an opinion-based thing where I might look at something and say these two creators are carbon copies of each other. And their fans will say, no, this person's good for this reason, whereas I don't like this person for this reason. There will be differences and there will be some aspects that you can cling to with any kind of given creator. But for the most part, looking from the outside, it does all kind of seem the same. It's somewhat hypocritical because the nature of what we're doing isn't especially groundbreaking. There's a lot of people who do do what we're doing. And what our argument then is, is what we're doing is hopefully creating an entertaining, don't want product. like Again, that sounds awful. How dare you?
00:33:29
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but We're creating something for people's entertainment that they are able to enjoy and to grasp onto us as personalities. Yeah. That is what the general struggle of a creator is, that for the most part, a lot of what's being put out has already been done, and it now becomes very much a culture of personality. Can you present yourself in an appealing enough way to enough people that distinguishes you from the thousands of others who are effectively doing
Mental Health Challenges of Podcasting
00:33:55
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what you're doing? Absolutely. And I mean, even when, of course, you and I started streaming on Twitch and everything, it was hard to really stand out amongst the crowd. to Totally get what you mean. You can't say, that oh, we are groundbreaking at what we're doing here, because at the end of the day, we are talking about topics that are either important to us or are of interest to us. And that's
00:34:19
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the thing though, it's because we are putting our personal spin on it and a lot of other podcasters that I've met before, they do exactly the same thing of putting a different spin on it because I think it's something that is very undervalued that a lot of podcasters come into podcasting or content creation in general and think, right, all I have to do is play the game, talk about the topic, etc. And then that's it. You don't have to do anything else. And you're like, no, there's a lot more. I mean, you've heard to me moan about it as well, and I know you have your a editing roles with the Stop, Drop, and Roll Initiative podcast, which is a great podcast, by the way. All two episodes of it Yeah. Because technically, we have filmed, or recorded, I should say, the eight episodes, I want to say. Eight, nine, maybe? Yeah, I think it's either or nine. I think there's half episodes that need to be formed to one. Hey, that's a half episode.
00:35:13
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Yeah, essentially, I struggled very much with editing. I put my heart and soul into the very first episode of Stop, Drop and Roll Initiative. And my kind of background prior to even playing Dungeons & Dragons was listening to podcasts about them. Like some of the first podcasts that I listened to were Dungeons & Dragons. I still listen to NADDPod Today. I still listen to Dungeons & Daddies. Those stuck with me. And they really put a lot of effort into the editing and production of those podcasts. And a lot of them use certain sound effects and music and Critical Role, which I watched Fox Machina, the show. I couldn't really get into the actual podcast stream of Critical Role. But when I started listening to the first one, it starts out in a bar setting and you can hear chitter chatter from people around them. And to be honest, it was too much for me. I felt like they hadn't quite got the editing right there and it sounded a bit too loud. I couldn't really hear what the characters were saying, but I liked the idea behind it.
00:36:03
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So I decided when I was editing the first episode that I would include ambiance sounds throughout. And so in the first episode, you hear some bar chair chatter, you hear doors opening, you hear horses clip-clopping as the characters are going down the road. You hear cave noises when they're in a cave and stuff like that. I'd spent a lot of time doing that and it became such a long process to do that I couldn't do it for the second one. It took me too long to do. And so just getting the second one up, I just put the podcast out there without it. And even that, it took a long time and dealing with four distinct audio channels that I was having to edit around became quite overwhelming. And a big problem I had largely from my own mental health issues was if I see something that's a big task, rather than saying, I'll break it up and do little chunks at a time, I see the whole project is too overwhelming. And that then becomes quite a difficult project for me. So I don't know if you've had that maybe when you first started and what you kind of did to get over it, or if you've always been able to manage it in I'll do this bit then, this bit then, and also managing your own personal life, because it's kind of being able to say like, I'm going to go set aside time to go do this and instead of being like, I'm going to go play a game. I'm going to go interact with my partner. It baffles me how you're able to do it and how other players are able to do it, because I just, it seems so challenging to me. Lots of caffeine, lots of prayers. Next question.
00:37:21
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ah Legal reasons, that's a joke. Please bear with me here.
Growth and Learning from Podcasting
00:37:24
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Yeah, I am 100% with you there. And especially when I started doing the podcast, because as I've said to you before, I've said to our lovely Pandalorians in the cafe right now, I genuinely it was just so taken aback by how much I had to do for the podcast.
00:37:42
Speaker
Because a lot of people, I've said this before, and I'll say a million times over, if you're wanting to start a podcast, you have to know what you're getting yourself into. Because it's not a case of you just get a microphone and you speak into it. mean, that's the fundamental basic of it. But if you're an indie podcaster, you're not a celebrity or anything like that, or you don't have a big following to support you in the initial push. Because I remember I saw someone today who started Twitch streaming, and I think They got about 100 followers in one stream. And the reason for that was because that they had a huge audience to begin with on Twitter, Blue Sky, those kind of places. So you can understand that, but I feel as if it's very demoralising. And I mean, I was moaning to you all the time when we were creating content together that I just didn't know how to promote it. i didn't know how to get into the right circles and things.
00:38:37
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Because a lot of people, especially at the beginning stage, I don't want to say they want to use you, but they want to do that follow for follow. They want to do that. Oh, I'll check out your content link. Yeah. And then, of course, they're just blasting their promotion and it's just this not a healthy relationship. But when you're putting your all into it and you're not getting as much back from it, I can totally sympathize with the fact that I know there's hundreds of people who feel the same way. And going back to what you were saying about the mammoth task, I mean, see if I sit down in front of a computer and I had the willpower, as it were, to just spend the whole day just working on it, then I would probably get it done. But it's so much work and I feel as if I do have to break it down because if I sit there and I do it constantly, I mean, there's episodes that you and I have done some... Absolutely amazing episodes.
00:39:33
Speaker
And I shudder at some of them because of the mistakes I've made. Because I've rushed through certain bits. I've said, alright, I'm going to edit this, I'm going to edit that. And then when I listen, I'm like, how did I miss that big gap? in the middle kind of thing. It fills me with that sense of, or at least back then, because i always remember Martin told me that, oh, you should maybe leave a like or a um, or, you know, to keep it more natural. Nowadays, I don't listen to that advice. I just take them all out. I'm like,
00:40:05
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no, there's not going to be a like, there's not going to be a numb. It is so overwhelming at the very of beginning. And I feel as if maybe it is just Stockholm Syndrome, podcast Stockholm Syndrome. But the more you do it the more shortcuts that you start to see. You think, right, okay, this bit's easier, that bit's easier. And you do get them out a lot more. But as as you were saying, I think that's something that people grossly underestimate the time management that's involved in a podcast.
00:40:32
Speaker
So much so that I genuinely think if you run a podcast, put it on your CV, because if someone thinks, oh, it's a silly thing where, I mean, I say silly thing, I'm a red panda on screen right now for anyone who can't see it. this in the audio only episode but you know i'm talking through a red panda and you're a pfg but at the same time you guys know it's true it is such an important thing to realize that there's a lot of work it's gonna be an uphill struggle and especially at the beginning i'm totally with you there my mental health with it for the first
00:41:07
Speaker
maybe a couple of months of content creation. I genuinely wanted to give I wouldn't be here if I had, but I genuinely thought, right, I'm not getting the views. I'm not getting the traction. It was partly on me for the tactics I was using. I mean, you'll have seen this as well, the evolutional.
00:41:24
Speaker
of the podcast but you go from that and you think right okay is this who I want to be and it's not very static is it you find that that this whole journey that we've been through together because let's face it you've been here since the beginning as well do you feel
Personal Growth and Evolution in Podcasting
00:41:39
Speaker
it's been quite a fluid journey rather than a very static one you want elaborate on what you mean by that it's constantly changing I don't feel as if we've been the same two people since the beginning of this journey yeah i was called Adam yeah true and then you're Martin you are
00:41:56
Speaker
It's like Doctor Who all over again. i get reborn every few years. But yeah, do you feel as if we've changed? Because that's actually something I've asked you. You've changed, man. You used to be cool.
00:42:06
Speaker
You're silly, man. Chatsu's still cool. And it'll happen to you. Do you feel genuinely, because and this is something that was scaring me when I did the first episode of Chatsu Cafe and Martin said we'd been friends for probably over half my wife And I was like, oh, my God, do you feel as if if we had started the podcast and university and then going on, it would not be the same, would it? No, I mean, we had talked when we were in university about setting up a YouTube channel because you and I watched Game Grumps a lot. And we would play video games together and we would have a lot of laughs while playing it. And we thought like, oh, we'd be such great Let's Players. People would love us.
00:42:45
Speaker
The idea of a podcast hadn't really even occurred to us at that point. But we would not have been nearly interesting enough. We didn't have enough lived experience. We didn't have enough fully formed opinions at that point in our lives that I don't think it would have been an entertaining enough experience. And we probably would have said something stupid. Yes.
00:43:03
Speaker
that would have maybe gotten us in trouble or something. Nothing bad in that way, but like we weren't mature enough, I don't think, at that point to be able to have the kind of conversations that we're having and do it in a more concise, cohesive way. I say that while rambling. To answer your question, yeah, I do think that we've kind of evolved in how we present the podcast now.
Evolving Media Literacy and Content Appreciation
00:43:23
Speaker
If you do listen to my very first episode, which was the Star Wars Clone Wars episode that we did, Not only is the audio quality on my end much worse, but I think you can kind of hear a nervousness in my voice. I don't have the same confidence when I'm speaking in these episodes that I do now. And so I think that there's certainly ah comfort level that's come from this and an ability to speak about things in a more general, well, both general and a more niche kind of way that you have the ability to look at things from a wider lens and then also look at it from ah more detailed perspective. Whereas think before, you would have had a very close-minded view, not you specifically, like you being us. dare you!
00:44:01
Speaker
A good example, and this came out now a couple of years ago, I think, but our Perfect Blue episode, that is a very good encapsulation of where we've come as podcasters and hosts of this channel and how we discussed that topic. I felt wasn't a very, not necessarily mature, that's not really the word I'm looking for, but that we were able to discuss it in a way that better fits the property and the discussion on mental health and all these kinds of things. So that that I think is something that I would have struggled a lot more with at an earlier stage. And even just kind of a media literacy kind of standpoint, that I might have discarded the film for it being kind of weird and not really being into it. Whereas now I appreciate it in a more, i keep saying the word mature, but in a sense that you're able to grasp the themes and the imagery in it. I mean, you're completely right there because I was actually thinking about this when i did an episode. It must have been either the end of season two or early season three with Adam, where we talked about a couple of indie games that we absolutely loved.
00:45:01
Speaker
That, of course, being when I say loved, I mean that with a big asterisk. when I say that. That of course being things like Papers, Please, Return to the Obra Dinn, even things like Kind Words, and especially for me, To the Moon. Now, I remember I actually got to the Moon in the Humble Bundle probably at around the same time that you and I met, and I honestly thank the game and God every single day that I did not play it in university, because I feel as if if I had played it then, A, I would have spoiled it for myself, and i wouldn't have understood it the same way. Because, you know, when you're a student back then, especially, and this is over 10 years ago, which is a scary thing to think about. But, you know, over 10 years ago, we were making jokes, having a slightly calmer life compared to, you know, nowadays. with everything going on. But, you know, you had that all going on, and you're completely right. There wasn't that sense of lived experience. You know, you'd be making jokes going, oh, ha-ha, they're going to the moon. Oh, they might meet aliens. Whereas you see this game, and I don't know if you've played it yet, but it's just such a bittersweet game. It's so heartbreaking, but it's also got the lovely moments as well. I mean, if you look at kind words, that is...
00:46:19
Speaker
Again, Adam summed up perfectly, said he wouldn't really describe it as a game because it's not really a game. is a game, but it's like you're getting other people's opinions sent to you, or not opinions, but views and vents, and as an anonymous person, you have to go back to them and say, okay, this is what we think of this thing, and if I can offer advice that, I'll give you it. But those those are the kind of things that I think...
00:46:44
Speaker
past satsu or as martin said in the past the chat to cafe standard satsu mini martin and standard satsu time pastu yeah pastu yeah exactly or ancestor andrew as well you know i don't think that i would have had the same reaction to it i feel as if a lot of the episodes come across better for it it's not one i would recommend unless they're an anime fan but i think that the Perfect Blue episode especially as one of our best together. Fun fact about that one is we recorded it twice.
00:47:16
Speaker
Very true. Very true. Oh my god, yeah. I remember trying to save the audio and i was just like, no, no, it's gone, guys. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. mean, it didn't hurt the episode, surprisingly. I think we made relatively the same points.
00:47:31
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Yeah, I think we actually brought up some points that we had missed in the first time, and I think that the second time round was actually better than the first. Because it's something that we don't really get much of, is it? When I say that, like a chance to do over certain episodes, because funny you should mention that when we did our first episode together, I i I want to say it's the first episode that I didn't do live on stream. Correct, yeah. Because of the time zone differences, it made it too difficult to be able to have us both available at the same time. So we did a pre-recorded episode and that was your first time doing that. Because we did the Clone Wars. We had to split them up into two, but we did the 2003 Clone Wars show part one, part two, It was an interesting episode, but I remember even Adam saying to me that when we did our Halo retrospective, he hates that episode, by the way, because, oh my god. It's just, again, it's the same reasons, because the way you felt and the way he felt, that was just quite nervous getting into it. And I mean, even if you listen to my first episode of Chatsunami, it is rough. It's got over 300 plays. I don't know why. So many people start with episode one when they check out a new channel, and so episode one is usually gonna be pretty heavily listened to, but yeah, more times than not, the first episode is usually one of, if not the worst.
00:48:52
Speaker
I remember! In fact, it might have been Toaster. Robotic Battle Toaster, that is, not my own toaster. I remember he said to me when we first met, oh, by the way, I'm listening to your podcast. cast It's really cool. And I was like, oh, cool. What episode are you listening to? See my face? It dropped.
00:49:11
Speaker
It dropped so hard when I saw that he was listening to episode one. And I was like, you know, that scene that always like to reference from Interstellar, the guy banging the glass going, no, no.
00:49:23
Speaker
please don't do it and you know they're listening to episode one there was another i think it was actually one of our Pandalorian patrons Cryptic 1991 and he was streaming on Twitch he was playing a lot of our episodes on there big shout out to Cryptic 1991 by the way he was playing i think Euro Truck Simulator, one of these simulators where you drive the truck, and he was playing the podcast through his stream, and I thought, oh, that's really cool, thank you so much. I'm going to be honest, I didn't recognise half the episodes that came up. take I say old, but you know, they're about four to five years old. I was just really surprised, I was like, oh my god,
00:50:02
Speaker
I did not expect that. I didn't even know that was a thing you could do. Well, yeah, you can play audio through Well, I don't think it was through the game. I think it was more just, it was playing it through Spotify or something. i mean, he did ask me beforehand and I said, yeah, absolutely, go for it. Is there someone they forgot to ask? Jesus. Yeah, it um was it was it was Jesus. Yeah, true.
00:50:21
Speaker
but Yeah, I've got a question for you though. Do you usually listen to old episodes? In fact, where is your cutoff? See, for listening to old episodes, where do you stop? Because I know you must stop somewhere. I stop episodes that I'm not on and then continue when I'm back on that episode. No, but seriously, is there any season that you don't go back to, like season one or early season two? I'm not a big re-listener of episodes. Just in general, i don't look backwards. I don't look forwards.
00:50:49
Speaker
Occasionally, I'll have a bit of nostalgia and I'll listen to our Beyblades episode or our Halo Legends episode or something like that. But I kind of will listen to it at the time. Yeah. And that's kind of fine for me. I don't really need to go back. The kind of thing with podcasts...
00:51:03
Speaker
for me is how it's a new thing each time that I'm not hearing what I've already heard before. There are some movies and shows and stuff that I will go back and do rewatches of those things, but typically I like to move on to the next thing. The only time that I would often rewatch or re-listen to things is to show them to someone else.
00:51:22
Speaker
If I was showing someone, which I've never actually done, one of our episodes, then I would do that way. There's a podcast channel that I've referenced before that was actually the very first podcast I ever listened to, and the Bruiser. They're now rebranded. They're called Nerd of Mouth. but they would do very specific topics on properties that they would go a deep dive on the history and making of and all that kind of stuff and it's very interesting and so sometimes if I was driving in the car with someone usually you my now wife then partner I might have been like oh you might be interested in the history of the Muppets and we'd listen to an hour long thing talking about Jim Henson's past and where each of the Muppets shows and stuff came from and that kind of thing that I will revisit because I'm experiencing it with someone else who hasn't heard it and so you can kind of get a discourse from it kind of just discuss
00:52:06
Speaker
But I'm not the kind of person generally who goes back and listens to other episodes. I take enjoyment in listening to what I've made with regards to you and I recording the content I've created, and I will listen to the first time, like, nice, okay, good job. But I feel like if I go back and listen to again, I'll just pick out the things I could have done better. Oh, I could have been funnier if I'd said this. i Oh, my audio wasn't very good in this bit, or something like that. So I feel... feel like I would be more critical of myself re-listening to it Kind of getting back to what you were asking though, the only ones that I have really listened to are, it's mostly when back like in the days with you, Adam and I, where we had the three of us on an episode, first and last, or just other chatsu nannies kind of stuff. Those are typically the ones I listened to back most, but there isn't necessarily cutoff, I would say. Because I have to say, when I go back to listen to them, and usually because I re-listen to them, they get mixed up with a lot my other podcasts that listen to. Because I listen to a lot of other indie podcasters, like Casting Views, who's actually launched a really good gaming podcast called Gaming Views. Now he does a really good gaming podcast as well as a general topics one. There's Seismic Cinema, there's Howdy Beans podcast, those kind of ones. Game Club Pod, they would absolutely kick me in the face if I didn't mention them. You know, but I'll have them in the lineup and then all of a sudden i'll be like, oh, these guys are funny. And I'm like, wait a minute.
00:53:26
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us it's me and you andrew oh my god which i always find hilarious but i think i was saying this to you the other day that i was out cutting my hedge and had every single person in my neighborhood you know lovely neighbors by the way can't fault them for that but the amount of people who were like oh do you want to do it this way do you want to borrow this you want to borrow that i'm like i just want to get my hedge but i was of course listening to another episode and then of course that ended and I couldn't change episodes as it were so what ended up happening was episode started playing on Detective Pikachu for animation month and I was like ah interesting but and that is a great episode by the way if you haven't listened to that please go back and listen to the Detective Pikachu episode but I have to say i don't really listen to many and the kind of season one tier because again that's when my editing was at its worst to be honest but honestly i feel as if see going forward and ending this episode on a very positive note as it were yeah i feel like the future is only going to get better for chat tsunami isn't it it can only get better can't it andrew well we'll have to wait and see won't we
00:54:35
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It's all up in the air, really, you know. it Depends what I reincarnate into as the next host. I mean, you're actually going to reincarnate as a rich host or... A richy rich host, if you will. Call back. You know what's scary? I was about to make the exact same thing to be like... You reincarnate as someone who works in a richy rich McDonald's.
00:54:52
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Oh no, the worst kind of future. No, send me into the bug! please. It's like, no. God damn it. But honestly, as I was saying before, the season has been absolutely fantastic of Chatsunami. You and I have done about two months, I want to say. Two themed months in particular.
Future of Chatsunami
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We did the Avatar month, the month after. Martin and I did Mario month last month. There, we did Animation Month, and of course, the yeah, coming up in the next couple of months in August, we will have Bioshock Month with the amazing pod pack. So cannot wait to show you that. But saying that note, because I'm looking at the door and I can see the barista turning his sign to say closed. The McCafe barista.
00:55:34
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The McCafe. Don't insult my baristas like that. Come on now. Richie Rich's McCafe barista. Richie fell on hard times after the lockdowns, okay? His rich career doesn't go off.
00:55:46
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Can I have nuggets? No, they don't do nuggets at the McCafe in An espresso and a stale muffin or nothing. A stale muffin or nothing. They should put that in a t-shirt. And on that note, before Richie Rich decides to sue us, you should get commission of me wearing an apron as a stale muffin or nothing. and Stale muffin or nothing.
00:56:04
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Take a note of that, because I probably will try and get that as the merch. But yeah, on that note, Andrew, thank you so much for joining me at last in the Chatsu Cafe. Hope you have had fantastic time with your uneaten sundae and cake, but it's okay. We'll eat that after the cameras are off. But yeah, thank you so much. Curdled. why? But yeah, no, thank you so much for coming. No problem. Thank so much for having me. And before we wrap up and I do the usual spiel of where to find us, etc., where can the amazing Pandalorians find your content? The Pandalorians can find... find my content on many other fantastic episodes of Chat Tsunami. We talked a little bit about of the stuff that's just recently come out. At the time of this live recording, we're reaching the end of animation month. So there'll be a couple more animated movies that we'll be discussing over the next couple of weeks, which will since passed if you listen to this on recording. Yeah, there's been several other fantastic theme months and just random episodes that I've been on. And there's been other some fantastic episodes on Tatsunami in general that I've not. you can find me there. You can also find me on our other podcast, Stop, Drop and Roll Initiative, the Dungeons and Dragons podcast with myself, Tatsunami, Robotic Battle Toaster, and Martin McAllister. That can be found where all good podcasts are found at Stop, Drop and Roll Initiative. There's two episodes out currently and at some point in the distant future there will be a third and that can be found at SDRIpod on Twitter and you can find me at Greenshield95 also on Twitter. Where can the fine Pandalorians out there find you? Well, I'm glad you asked, cut out of Andrew.
00:57:32
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The amazing Pandalodians can find myself and of course you as well on our website, Chatsanami.com, as well as all good podcast apps. I also want to give a huge shout out to our amazing Pandalodian patrons. You can see just on that board, we have Robotic Battletoaster, we've got Sonya, we've got Ghosty, and last but not least, we have got k Cryptic 1991. Thank you so much. You get that paw away from me. Stop pointing that at me. Get that the fuck away from my two-dimensional image. I'm putting my paw down now, Jesus.
00:58:03
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It's still up. I can still see it. It's creeping me out. Stop it. Anyway, sorry, the pause down. ah And yeah, if you want to become a Pandalorian patron and you don't want me to point at you, this is a threat, not an offer. You can indeed check out. legal reasons that's a joke you can indeed check us out at our patreon page patreon.com forward slash chat tsunami where you can get a wide range of exclusive access early access commentary tracks bloopers and yeah many more wonderful things so please feel free to check that out this podcast is of course a member of the pop pack collective for more information check us out at our Twitter slash X page. Had to think about that for a second. Our Twitter slash X page at podpackcollect.
00:58:46
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Until next time, thank you all so, so much for joining the cafe. Hope you have an absolutely fantastic evening and a fantastic end of the week. Stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly... Don't drink any ice cream floats.
00:59:00
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Yeah, because that one's curdled. I mean, look at it. Look at my paw, Andrew. The audio only listeners. I love this. This great for them. Such great content. Yeah. ah Stop pointing at me. oh Bye, guys. Bye.