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The Kids Got Something to Say With Bobo The Kid & Von Don United
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This week I am joined by the freshest father-son duo in NYC! Bobo The Kid and Von Don pull up to the podcast to talk kicks. How style is passed down from generation to generation. How we talk impact the youth and talk to the younger generation. How Bobo got into modeling, working with Awake and getting a chance to be heard here. How Von has been a staple around New York and what it was like to collect kicks and being an creative. Plus a whole ton more.
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90s Fashion Inspiration
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into that right yeah this whole um just like genre like certain time people logical so people try to tell me oh you dress like 90s right now Yes, I do. I pull a style from the 90s and inspiration, but I wouldn't say like you could go look on my Instagram, my Instagram page and you can see like, yo, like it's not just 90s. Of course, I love the 90s. I'm super into the history, you know, like I'm i'm into all of it. But I'm not one of those people that just, yo, I'm not, um let me put it like this. There's people out there right now that are Pinterest. like
00:00:36
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Like call them Pinterest people because they go on Pinterest. They, they copy outfits. That's not me. You know what I'm saying? I'm really true to this, not new to this. I see my father yeah like all these years, flee.
00:00:48
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Hold on, all these outfits. Like, you really think I'm going to go on Pinterest and look like, yo, I'm going to, nah. Like, I seen it firsthand. Then I'm from that swag era for real. You get what I'm saying? So I seen the 2010s and the 90s. Like, I don't even, like, I don't need to go on Instagram or any of that. This is just me. Like, so when I get dressed, like, you can ask him, bro. I'll be running. Like, we'll be ready to leave. I'm running back to that room.
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Yo, I'm about to put this back. I got to yeah we a three times.
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What's good everyone. Welcome back to my first case this is episode 265.
Meet Bobo the Kid and Von Don
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And this week we got the first, maybe the youngest podcast guest I'm probably going have and his dad, Vondon and Fobo the Kid, bro.
00:01:38
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Welcome, man. oh Welcome. Thank you for having Thank you for having us here. Nah, man, this is dope. Like, we connect, well, let's do the first connection. J Miles, shout out J Miles, man. Shout out J, man. He was like, I forgot where it was. um It may have been, it was either Extra Butter or it was at Family Food Fest.
00:01:59
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And he was like, yo, you got to have Von Don on. It was definitely one of the, like, we always was outside last year. Last summer was crazy. So shout out to J Miles for linking us up with us. Yo And then And then You did the You did the phone posit Yeah Shout out Jinx Yo shout out Jinx Shout out Jinx Shout out everybody All the good people I like you But you've been killing it As a way You've been everywhere Awake Awake But for people who are not Familiar with about introduce yourself um what's up everybody my name is bobo the kid i'm an actor model on instagram influencer um i just basically do everything i'm from the bronx new york yeah yeah and what's going on everybody i'm vaughn dawn you know uh i'm a graphic designer i'm a creative a multi-disciplinary creative uh graphic designer fashion designer and uh
00:02:55
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I manage my son and do some bunch bunch of creative stuff, you know, creative directing and i was gonna say it things of that nature. Directing, producing, you know, we getting into it all. Shout out the- From the Bronx. I got to rep the Bronx heavy, Yankee, Bronx bombers. You know what i'm saying? It ain't enough for the Bronx. The Bronx be quiet. When they doing they thing, they be quiet. They in the rooms, but they quiet, but we not going to be quiet about the BX. So yeah, shout out to the Yankee. I hope you've been enjoying this week's episode with Boba the Kid and Von Don. And of course, you can help out the podcast by liking, subscribing, and leaving a comment on this episode.
00:03:32
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Please, please, please leave a comment on the episode. i've been seeing a little bit of dialogue within the episodes. And also, it helps the algorithm. It gets me in front of more other people that want to listen to podcasts like this. And of course, if you want to go the extra, extra mile, hit up that Patreon, patreon.com slash myfirstkicks.com. I got $5 tier, and that's the only tier I have right now. You get two Patreon-exclusive episodes. You got an episode with AD Sneaks. You got an episode with Joe, a.k.a.
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Higher Living, Higher Learning, Higher Loving. We talk about Black Footwear Forum, and with AD, we talk about his book. We talk about his perception online, um you know, blowing up, and what that comes with it, and, you know, That's my guy, so we really talk about a lot of stuff. um And of course, I have, and it's coming, I swear, i have the walkthrough with Jinx at the 47 Christie spot.
00:04:31
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Lineage, you know, the history, of the gene genealogy of a phone posit. That should be on there as soon as JD gives it to me. So whenever you watch this, hopefully it'll be up there. um I got to reach out to him. But let's jump back right into the episode. Nah. This a mess a mets a man is a podcast here. know Jigga going to be performing at the Yankee Stadium. know. yeah I know. but so yankee state I know. I told my boy, was like, yo, that might be the only time I'll ever wear a Yankee fitted. It's like somebody. But under the circumstances that somebody invites me, I'm not paying for a ticket, but I'll pay for the fitted. Okay. Wear Mets colored Yankee joint. Yeah. That's like the cheat code. Nah. You know what I have? I do have um the kith drop. Yeah. the It's the Mets color. It's the Mets fitted, but the Yankee colors.
00:05:22
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See, I just do a Subway series. Shout out to Awake. Yeah, series, man. You know what I'm saying? um but But also, shout out to Compound. like You're working with the Compound. Oh, yeah. Definitely, man. Shout out to Seth Free. He just texted me just now. Shout out to my big bro, Seth Free, man.
00:05:37
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The Jedi. That's who he is. He's the Jedi. Facts. You feel me? The creative Jedi, man. I love it. Got a lot of stuff going on over there at the Compound, man. It's opening back up April 15th. Recently had the Nets in there. Oh, yeah. The Nets been in there. yeah They've been like family since like you know the holidays.
00:05:53
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They've been around a lot. Holiday parties. and That's crazy. you know Giveaways, drives, and stuff like that. Yeah. But, yeah, you've been crushing it with the Awake, like modeling for Awake in the in the six s yeah the six is yeah shadow end joe shadow angello and Angelo! Nah, I mean, they got the new storefront with the with the banner on it. Oh, yeah. We've been waiting for that. Yeah.
00:06:17
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Which is crazy. Because I remember, just to segue off this, but I remember saying, like like, I would walk by and I'd be like, what why is this plot spot so popping? And then you look up and it's like yeah like, it's like furniture. like a men's clothing. That used to be a suit store. Like an old casual suit store. And you'd be like, why does it look like that? And then you look inside, you're like, oh snap. That was fire. It was like kind of hidden. love that. It's like a hidden gem, like, oh shit, that's a wig? I don't know. It was the same thing with Lambs too. Lambs was yeah like that too, where it was like, you pass by, you you don't see the flags until you like, look up, look up. But then it's like, you're like, why is it so popping in there? Yeah, I feel like Angelo wanted it like that, know, to give off that like old school, like, yo, know just come find out for yourself, see what it is. That if you know, you know. Yeah, type of vibe. Shout out to Orchid, all the dope shops and... Stores and restaurant or restaurants on Orchard. Orchard is on fire right now. Shout out to Scars and Frank's Chop Shop, my boy Mike, all of them. It's the lifeline right now of New York for sure. like All that streetwear sneaker culture is living right there right now. It's dope. I mean, the transition, i don't know if you ever remember like Soho back in the day. How back in the day? Did you ever see like- Do you mean like the 90s? No, no, no. Or the 2000s. 2000s.
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I mean, i only na see, I'm 15 years old. I know it sounds funny, right? But I've seen like videos and stuff about in the 2000s. I like it better in the 90s. Like I like the history of it better in the 90s. That's crazy for you to say this. I've heard from like posts and like like seeing like videos. You know, watched the Supreme documentary. Yeah, that documentary is fire. That was definitely like a big, you kid already you got to see it for what it really was in the 90s, in the 2000s too. But did you watch the other Supreme doc?
00:08:03
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I don't know. The one that's on Hulu. Watch that one. That one's a lot. If you watch both together, you get a 360. Okay. Because what they did, and to let you know, is like they cut out a lot of the New York stuff. Like they had some of the New York stuff in it, but like there was like the the tunnel. i don't know if you remember. i don't know the story of the tunnels or do you know about the tunnel? did The club? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I know the tunnel. And then, but it was like the people at Supreme and New York was DJing at the tunnel. They had like this run room. Gotcha. You know, in the 30 for 31, they talked about like, they only got into Zoo York when they spoke about Harold Hunter. That's when they got into that. Yeah. Rest in peace, man. Yeah, rest in peace, Harold Hunter.
00:08:39
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I got to talk with to Dave Ortiz about him for a little bit on an episode. And I was like, i was like i damn, this I wish I knew more about him. But like, you only see all these videos and he's like, This character, yeah you know, and like he had this foundation and stuff like that. So yeah it's dope. dope. But y'all both here to answer the question that I ask everybody each
Sneaker Memories and Culture
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week. And that question is, what's your first kiss with that first pair sneakers you absolutely needed to have?
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Oh, yeahs yo, you know what's funny? Needed to have, it was so many. I can't, I probably can't even count, because like, you gotta think of like, the crack era, were like 88, like, you just seeing all these like, and not even dope boys, now they say dope boys, dope boys. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, big cake pens, you know what saying? With cement threes, joint fours, you feel me?
00:09:20
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I always wanted those, but like, yo, know like, it was so fire back then that you could get it's just like some fire basketball joints, like, from East Bay and be like lit. You feel me? So like, Some of the first kicks I do remember having are like, one of them are like the flights. Okay. Right? oh I love it. True flights?
00:09:38
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They were the white with the purple check, black midsole, black tongue flight with the little yellow and orange. They're not the 180s. No. No. They were just some flight Air Force. see it. I see it. They were fire, bro. They were fire. Team colorway.
00:09:55
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And some Accel trainers. Accel cross trainers. Mm-hmm. I remember them too well. Because one time I had to get a pair of favors or a pay lesson. I was mad. So I cut the cross trainer off of the tongue and I tried to put it on those. And I was just like, yo, they won't know. I'm going to tuck my pants around the back. I'm just going to wear these for a little while. I'm going to get out of them. Yo, it was rough sometimes when I was young. ain't going to front. From the state in the Bronx? Yeah, from the Bronx, 183rd.
00:10:24
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You know, Morris Ave, not too far from Fordham Road, not far from the Grand Conquest or Jerome Ave. Ford Train. Excuse me. D Train. You know i'm saying We call it the Delta. Yeah, Force, Force. You know what I'm saying? I gotta get with the new stuff. Straight Bronx. But um yeah yeah yeah, that's where um we were born and raised. I mean, I was born in Metropolitan Hospital on 99th on the east side. Bobo hates that. why thinks I'm trying to claim Harlem. by saying that, but we- We have East side roots. Like, you know, like my mom grew down there, like, you know, had a crib down there yeah you know before I was born. So yeah, my pops brought up to the BX. Shout out to my pops. He from DC, DMV, but we BX bound, baby. He have foams?
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He's
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That's how hard, DC people go so hard for phones though, though. He be like, yo, my dad, my dad from DC. My dad came through with the phones. Yo, damn, that was another good one, those phones. But yeah, Bobo, what about you? on my first My first kick probably was like the ah Jordan 5 Metallic.
00:11:36
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Okay. Yeah, i don't I don't remember what year. i think it was 2015 2016. Yeah, he got me and my brother He got me and my brother up here. um I don't remember where he got him from. But I just remember like that feeling of like unboxing that sneaker. And it was just like, yo, like I'm gonna wear these to school. like I'm not getting these dirty. like I remember just seeing that icy soul and that three and reflective tongue. It was just like,
00:12:01
Speaker
It felt like everything to me having that pair of sneaker. And that was just like, I think before that, had I had a lot of sneakers before that, but that was the sneaker. Yeah, that's the one that like, yeah, it made me like snapping like, all right, I'm into sneakers now. Like I want to keep my sneakers clean and I want to look nice. It was that sneaker right there.
00:12:18
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um Now let's hear the full story. ah Oh, what? How'd you get him those those metallic fives? Oh, the metallic fives? um I don't, you know, like, I think it's like Kix Crew or something. One of those, one those, like, you know, I guess they're valid yeah because there wasn't too many bootlegs going on around that time.
00:12:37
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Oh, man, you just hear it. They might be, they might be Panda by now. I mean, this wasn't 28th Street ever or anything, you feel me? So it's like, I'm pretty sure they were valid. You know what I'm saying? And they were small, because they wasn't making too many small bootlegs. But yeah, he had plenty J's before that. Like, Bobo was the last of my three. yeah yeah i'm the youngest twenty He's 2010, so he yeah i was LeBron's, you know I'm saying? All kinds of, you know?
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How'd you introduce him to era of sneakers the appreciate? All right, all right, all right. I'll give you a go. It's a good one. So we had a one-bedroom. It was a walk-up. It had a long hallway when you go in the door, and I had nothing but sneakers lined up.
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in that hallway, because it just looked good. It was like a little cut in the wall. I'm like, yeah, I'm line them up right there. So I don't know, maybe you could insert this pic somewhere, but he has a picture of the Air Max 2 Dukes on, with the pamper on, and this little beanie I had. He's just like bowlegged.
00:13:38
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First of all, that's where he gets his name from. The motor kid. He used be bowlegged when he was younger, so yeah, that's where his name comes from. But um that picture, man, it's just so cute. bad He's just wearing ah the the Dukes. You know what saying? Like, just chilling.
00:13:52
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Air Max 2s. And I gave those away to Second Street damn near because I'm just tired of, sometimes I get tired having a they had a slight squeak and I was just like, I can't wear these.
00:14:04
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Should've kept those. Yo, for real. That's part of his story. I got picks. Pippin' 2s, Pippin' 1s.
00:14:12
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Everything. The Nikes. The good Nikes. You know, you feel like, oh, they gonna come back. I'm gonna them all out again. Not in the in then in the time. During the time. When you're like, yo, I need. It's either you you get this off right now. Or like.
00:14:26
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Or you just gonna end up holding on to them forever. And it's like. You have to play that. That like. Oh, maybe I should do it. Maybe I i don't. But then sometimes it's just like. Because. Bro, I tell you. There's so many sneakers that I've.
00:14:37
Speaker
I've like sold, I still talk about, tell this story all the time. It's probably my biggest regret. I got the Syracuse SBs, right? So the white and orange. And it was like part of the Be True to Your School series that Nike SB did. So that was like the school. The college, right? Yeah, the college. And so, yo, I remember getting them hyped, hyped. had to pay my phone bill.
00:15:02
Speaker
Wow. but I had to put them on eBay, right? Oh. Sold them for like, so I was, I was, um i ended up becoming cool with this NYU professor. So me and him were the same size. So we would always buy sneakers off each other. And he saw that I listed them. He's like, yo, sell me for like 150. I got you. Comes meets me up, picks it up, whatever. Have never been able to get them back ever. And I was like, I was so like, I wanted to finish that pack. Especially during that time in like 2016, I want to say. Right. Like, I was like so big on like, oh, let me finish this pack. Let me finish this pack.
00:15:36
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And it's like, it's eight sneakers. I think it's eight sneakers. And like, I only have- forgot. The Michigans, St. John's. I have Michigan. No, i have Iowa. Yeah. UNLV, Syracuse, St. John, Iowa. Michigan. Michigan.
00:15:52
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um um red and red and white was the red we said that right it's eight though i'm pretty somebody in the comments somebody's had yeah um and so i was like i was like damn i'm never gonna be able to get i so i so i looked on them i looked for for them like maybe like like a year after yo they shot up to like 500 i was like it's over for me yeah man It's crazy. The resale game is crazy. like yeah I never was into buying resale much, if anything, or was standing on lines.
00:16:28
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I kind of skipped. I don't know if it's my age, because I'm not saying nobody my age has ever done and never done that, but ah kind of like, let's just say this. I was never a hypebeast.
00:16:40
Speaker
Were you? No, I couldn't be. You get what I'm saying? Like, think about it. All right, 2020, would say that Hypebeast era came around like, but no, because Hypebeast just in general- 2016. Yeah, 2016, yeah. Galaxy phones. That's what I'm saying. Because I'm thinking about like clothes and sneakers. They were out before that because the Pewters came out in 2010. Yeah. about the Paranormans, like yeah galaxies, like just the whole wave started in the 2010s. That's what I be saying. When a lot of people be saying like, oh, you're young, you don't know certain stuff. I'd be like, you have to think about it. I was born in 2010, right? So all of those years, even though I was young, like you can tell how I am now.
00:17:20
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I am very like, i am i observe I observe and I absorb things. yeah So everything. like I watch my father, my older cousin Deja, everyone. you know Just from being being from one of the thirds, seeing people put it on. like just i got a question for you then. Because like you know I think kids now get really bad like a really bad rap about like following you know fashion style. But I feel like yeah you put on...
00:17:47
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you You changed it, right? Like I think like when I see your page, I'm like, nah, he got it. Like that that like, I'll tell you those. I went to a concert, a Lord Skull concert, right? There's a rapper named Lord Skull. Yeah, never heard of it.
00:18:02
Speaker
You don't put them on? Skull. You know Skull. You Skull? Yeah. I probably do. long hair. You in front of the lambs. Oh, yes, man. Skull. So I go to Lord Skull concert, right? And I'm downstairs. And I'm, you know, I dress like, to be honest, I do still dress the same from like right? Because I was fat back then, so I couldn't fit any of the clothes. So I'm wearing all the clothes now. You're like, it's my time. Yeah. I'm about to do this. So I'm downstairs. Yo, this guy steps up to me. He's a kid. And I'm like, he's definitely like 17-ish because it was an all-age show, right? And so comes up to me. He's just like, yo, love the fit, man. 2010s, right? And I'm like, yo. Yo, calling out the years is crazy. Yeah. Nah, straight up, yo. Because I could be like 90s all day, 90s, 2000, 90s. Nah. can we please get into that, right? Yeah. This whole...
00:18:55
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just like genre, like certain time. logic so People try to tell me, oh, you dress like the 90s, right? Now, yes, I do. I pull a style from the 90s and inspiration, but I wouldn't say like you could go look on my Instagram my instagram page and you could see like, yo, like it's not just 90s. Of course, I love the 90s. I'm super into the history. You know, like I'm i'm into all of it, but I'm not one of those people that just, yo, I'm not, um let me put it like this. There's people out there right now that are Pinterest. Like, no I call them Pinterest people because they go on Pinterest. They, they copy outfits. That's not me. You know what I'm saying? I'm really true that it's not noticed. I see my father. Yeah.
00:19:37
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Like all these years flee. Hold on, all these outfits. You really think I'm going to go on Pinterest and look like, yo, I'm going to, nah. I seen it firsthand. Then I'm from that swag era for real. right You get what I'm saying? So I seen the 2010s and the 90s. I don't need to go on Instagram or any of that. This is just me. yeah like So when I get dressed, like you can ask him, bro. i'll be running like We'll be ready to leave. I'm running back to that room.
00:20:05
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Yo, I'm going to put this back. I got to switch. Man, switch like three times. We got to go. Hey, I mean, so then like, all right, wait. What was trying to say, though, is like, I do think that like kids now is very get ready with me dressing, right? I've said this like a ton. And I do miss the like the individuality. Like when I see your page, I'm like, ain't nobody dressing like you. Yeah, appreciate that. So it's like,
00:20:33
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how do we, how do we as the OGs or whatever you want to call us, like the unks of this, like how do we connect to like kids like your age and be like, yo, without it seem intimidating and being like, yo, you know, I think, you know, this goes with this. Yeah. You know, how do how do we, how do we pass on the weight? So I'm happy you brought this up because I seen a video and it was a older guy and he was criticizing a younger kid for wearing something that wasn't cool in his generation. And I think that's the problem right now is that a lot of people are not helping people. Instead of instead of helping people, people are bringing people down. So a person will see something... a person will see someone inside of ah a certain piece of clothing. Like ah one of one of my father's friends, he like he saw a thing... A kid, that was he was wearing a South Pole.
00:21:23
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We all know South Pole was not cool in the 2000s. Hey, don't tell me when I was doing that. We fightin'. A lot of people don't feel like South Pole was lit. It's South Pole, right? It's South Pole. Yeah, South Pole first down. I mean, they were hanging in their bare. I mean, if you're from Queens, it was school of hard knocks.
00:21:43
Speaker
South Pole was a hefty coat. It was very- Oh, you're talking about the the coat itself. Downfill. Because I had the pants. I was rocking South Pole pants. And it was like the big, you get the big, ah the hammer loop. It was gigantic. Yeah, ands the carpenter. But it was a it was basically a kid and he was wearing that.
00:22:03
Speaker
And then some OG was like, yo, like that's not hot. like you know like don't Don't wear those or whatever. Now we're in a time right now where people are Instagram, like I just brought up about the Pinterest. People go off of what they wear because of what they see. Come and find out that kid saw a little Yachty wearing South Pole. Now it's just like, it's all off of what you see on Instagram. Yeah, that that influence. So I feel like the older generation should tap in more with the younger generation by uplifting them and yo, yo, put this on and, and, show them instead of a bashing them. You get what I'm saying? little compare and contrast. That's the problem. And I feel like my father just, we was we was talking about something.
00:22:42
Speaker
and he was like in the 90s, like the older heads, like they they were more help you. Agreed, yeah. Now wass just like, yo, forget them youngins. Like they don't know what they talking about. It's like that type of vibe. And I'm like, yo, we got something to say. It's just like when, when, um,
00:22:57
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Entree 3000 was like, yeah, yeah. I'm like, got say but i' say like like um kid' got some mistake yeah, to say. No, yeah. I mean, that's that's what i I love to hear. I mean, i i pride myself on just like, I'm open. Like, I'm always down to talk to anybody, you know? And so when it comes to like, you know, loving sneakers and sneaker culture, like, I want this to grow more. I want more kids to be like, and more, the more of the younger generation to be more like, you I want to go back. I want to yeah i want to read and see all this cool stuff. The Heritage learned about like you know um you know the OGs and Bobbito and all these people that really paved the way for a lot of these people in sneakers to the point where now we're getting collabs at a daily basis. But it's like now it's just like kind of whatever. And you know cultural spots like the spot that Jinx and I did the Jinx interview at, like um
00:23:48
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Like that's like Opens it up But it's also The awareness of like You gotta bring the kids there too Yes That's fact So like when he did The panel with you I was like This is fire That's why i was like Immediately i after i was like Yo I gotta have you on the pod but Thank you I appreciate that I appreciate it when Jinx set us up And was like Yo like we need you on it that felt good to know like, yo, I need this um input from my age group. Like, that felt good. Nah, yeah. ah But like, Vaughn, like, how does it, how is this seeing, you know, Bobo like, progress? Especially within this culture because this culture is not easy to get into.
00:24:24
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yeah yo man. Put it this way, like, I'm blown away by it because like, I've been, you know, into the fashion, the graphics, the fact, you know, just,
00:24:35
Speaker
Getting dressed, the style for like years. Like has been just something we actually just lived. And like just to see that I wasn't tapping in with downtown as much as I probably even wanted to a little. Because I was trying to build my own thing uptown and um organically. but What were you trying to build up there? And I had some situations that kind of kept me a little more...
00:24:58
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Stay put, which helped in turn, because I learned a lot by studying. Basically, creative hub. You know what I'm saying? like Helped a lot of brands build their brand from scratch and with with their graphics, their concepts, their sourcing.
00:25:15
Speaker
Things of that nature. So I was basically trying to open up a multi multimedia studio in the pandemic. And all you know that didn't flourish. I did it from home for a long time. yeah But like for the fact that I wasn't going downtown tapping in Like I used to work in Soho in 99. I used to work at City Cinema Angelica. Oh, okay. And like back when they had Tranchet, Atrium, David Z's, Cockpit, all those stores there. And I was like running around down there some, but I would always run back uptown. So to to not have been tapped in,
00:25:47
Speaker
With the culture, that's why I said, like, I wasn't into reselling. I wasn't, like, ah you know, I was buying a pair of sneakers every day when I was hustling. You know what I'm saying? In in the late 90s, mid to late 90s, like, we would buy outfit every day. yeah It's nothing like hunting and, you know what I'm saying? Going online and rebuying something for more. Like, what? Like, we was just... You know what saying? So to see, like...
00:26:11
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us Shout out to O, man. No idea's original. I keep giving him his flowers. I keep giving oh his flowers because he kept highlighting real people. like Everybody's real, but like when I say real, like people you know from the from the concrete, from the ground. You know what I'm saying? like People that are not celebrities that are on. like He highlighted what they wore.
00:26:32
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why they wore it, where do they wore it, yeah from the sneakers to the drip. And like, I was one of the- His page reminded me of like back in the day when you would, you do, when you go through like the yearbook at the end and people would like make like collages of like people's fits and stuff like that. Exactly. Like it's like ah a whole book of like the best dressed. You know what I'm saying? It's a it's an archive. that's a new yeah It's a New York archive for sure. Yeah, like everybody got it on. And like, I was one of the first people that he posted on his page. um I ain't gonna give no hints on nothing, but y'all see tomorrow, Air Max Day, shout out to all Air Max Day. You know what I'm saying? But like I was one of the first- I mean, this is coming out way after that. It's gonna be here. Y'all let us know what thought of it. But yeah, like I was wearing Air Max 1s, Royal Blues, like in 99, like 2001 or something like that.
00:27:26
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Yeah, he posted me on his page and Bobo started following him and then a lot of other people around me. And you know we went to his first event and like you know things just started flourishing more because the community started coming together more. like It wasn't just people who would stand online to buy sneakers or resell to you. These are people who actually collect, who care, who know.
00:27:45
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had Very knowledgeable of these of things And these stories I've been to I've been to Winter Wars I've been to Oh yeah Was there one that was like We Outside? somewhere way way we outside it was the first summer first summer First weekend of the summer Yeah, yeah. At Washington Square Park? No, no, no, no, no. No, we were outside. we We weren't there. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. The two at home game.
00:28:10
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Yeah. Probably was Air Force. We missed Air Force. Yeah. I think we passed. But like it was it was is dope how like the community actually really shows up for him and shows up for the page. Yeah. I think that like. Culture. Yeah. I mean, eventually he's going to be on the podcast. And you got to think about it. Like Bobo was 13. I brought him. See, he's been with me. I mean, obviously he's my son. Everybody doesn't spend time with their kids and doesn't bond with their children. But like, I never shunned my son or pushed him away. Whatever I did from selling things to creating things, being on a computer, networking with people out outside, you know, feet on the pavement, you know I'm saying? He was right there with me. You know, we got pictures. So it's like,
00:28:52
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it was only like natural progression when I hit the streets and went outside to an event and he's like right there with me. He's 13 years old and they like, who's this little kid? Who's he with? You know what I'm saying? He got coined the youngest in charge and you know what I'm saying? Shout out to K, Rillis McCoy on IG. But yeah, so it's like that just propelled into The whole Awake thing, like you know I don't want to get all the way into that story, but shout out to Angelo and Hugo and the rest of the team out of Awake, because they embraced us like family that they are.
00:29:22
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you know They're a community-based brand, and like they helped propel us and just put us on a platform where everybody else got to know who we are and what we do and shine us in the brightest light possible. And now Bobo's like, you know he's like the North Star right now.
00:29:38
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Yeah, I agree. I say, when we was on the phone, what'd I say? He the future. Yeah, he's you know like, he's leading a way right now. I think it's just like people, especially when they hear this too, because one of my things is like, I know kids don't listen to podcasts. Like who's going what kid's going to know what? Let me get on Roblox and Fortnite real quick and put it on the podcast. You'd be surprised. Yeah. But like I'm hoping you know you know people will tap in and hear how how like curious you are about the past and like you know bridging that and bringing that into the into the future too. like you know That's what, you know history repeats itself. like If you read every history book, it's just gonna repeat itself, right? And he's a connoisseur. like He actually studies and watches. like He knows more about soul, rock, like all kinds of genres of music and eras like in history, pop culture. He knows yeah a lot more than me to believe it or not. I know a lot of stuff because of my age and my wisdom. Nah, but you you were outside.
00:30:32
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Yeah, like, yeah. But like, you know, experiencing it physically. You more like me. I was used to be on the internet. have to think about it. Come on, 2010. Let's take a hold of conversation with like almost anybody out here like about anything. You know what I'm saying? You would have been great on the forums back in the day. Oh yeah. Yeah. Cause like, I don't know. I'm pretty sure people tell you about all the Nike talks and the ISS and like that, that conversation where, you know, if you were curious about something, you, nobody was afraid to to ask. Like now I feel like people are so afraid. Everybody wants to just be right from the job. Right. Right. They don't, they don't want the backlash. They don't want, you know, slander and anything, you know, what is it? So like, how is it trying to like build a collection with a son that also wants his own collection? Yeah. Yo, that, yo, you know what's, oh my God, I love that question. You know what's so crazy?
00:31:23
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I'd rather do it for him than a lot of other mother. You hear that? Yeah. You feel me? Nah, but um I helped a lot of people along the way. Some people, um they went further with it. They were serious about it and they doing their thing. Some people, you know, they dropped the ball, you know I'm saying? And i feel like even though his collection hasn't come out yet,
00:31:44
Speaker
We're building it and we're designing and creating it. Oh wait, you were talking about Run that question back.
00:32:05
Speaker
How does it feel? Yo, we about to go crazy. How does it feel have a son that also wants his own sneakers? I'm going to be very specific now. How can you collect sneakers and also have a son that collects sneakers? How does it feel to them both? mean, I'm to keep it a buck. At this point, you know, he gets more exclusive than me. Now, you know, like, I'm going to leak it. But, yeah, I'm bringing the undefeated AMAX out tomorrow. Yeah, fine. This is gonna be already there. Yeah, comes out with two facts. Yeah, he turned those down. Bruzy hit me like, yo, for the homies, what's up? You want them?
00:32:44
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was like, sure. Bobo's like, nah, don't want those. I'm like, you're bugging. He seen them? He was like, oh my God. Y'all sure y'all got any more? I was tight. He got the Yachtys. Which one? The Air Max 95s. No, but I know they dropped bunch of them. No, the New York ones is the neon ones. Oh, the neon. No. Oh, just OG. But they had like... Yeah, with the line. When you see... Yeah, the bug, yeah. My favorite was the blue one. Tokyo? Yeah. Oh, man. All of them were hot. The Tokyo's is mean, though. The red ones, the Tokyo's... Yeah, those are hot. Because come on, bro. You got the chili red, regular 9.5s, and you got the solar reds. Like, ah...
00:33:17
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I'm mad I didn't get those. One that I slept on so much that I'm like, I'm kicking myself for is because of Joe LaPuma, I'm kicking myself for this. But like the Lux 95s, the Supreme joints. Yeah.
00:33:30
Speaker
Crazy, crazy. Yeah, with the lines on it. With the lines on it. Yeah. And it's got the Supreme on the side. Yeah. Yeah. They had some forces like that, like Italian leather back in the like early mid But like, yeah, like he has the Yachty's. He did the Yachty shoot.
00:33:47
Speaker
Shout out to Nike team. J.A. Nike. Shout out J.A. And um like he has just some other exclusive. You was in that? well Yeah, he was in the Yachty. He was in the Yachty. Oh, yes. I was in the Yachty photo show. I was in magazine. That's crazy. Yeah, he was like low key. He was in it, though. Like the whole. yeah I was in it He was in it.
00:34:04
Speaker
I told you the future. Yeah, nah, that's a whole fact. That's a whole fact. So, like, his collection is is getting there. is is is It's almost like his followers. His followers are getting up to me, like, my my amount of followers. But, like, you they not just there. The same thing with her sneaker collection. Like, I don't got the craziest amount of followers. But, like, you know, i got a nice amount of pairs. No, yeah, I mean, the the thing is with that, with, like, social media. And I think, like, you would go crazy. It's just you just got to post every single day. And I was like, you know. Yeah. But like I wouldn't, you know, sacrifice, you know, your presence in school or like, you know, anything just to be the next thing on the internet. Especially when the- Yeah, don't really care about followers, you feel me? As you should. right and And I think that like- People have spoke about it like, you know, like, yo, followers matter and stuff like that. But I feel like my following in real life is so real yeah that I don't even need followers on Instagram. And your followers organic. Yeah, man. A lot of people buy followers. Mm-hmm. Oh, I know. really want to get into it. I know y'all be buying followers. Y'all follow me. Nah, like, buying followers.
00:35:11
Speaker
I know, I know, I know. I will do that to somebody. I'll come be like, yo, you following That's a little more organic than cop in the butt. I know what I'm saying. And a blue check. They likes don't be adding up to they follows. I'm like, you got 100 likes, but 10K followers. Yeah, mad views and no likes. Nah. I see y'all hating. I see some. It's crazy. I mean, it's crazy on these internet streets. But the way that like... of things that I always have to tell myself sometimes is just like it's not about the amount of followers. It's all about who's following. Yes, yes. Quality over quantity. Oh, for sure. And I mean, that's good to have it as like a kid because like I'm pretty sure everybody, you know, they looking at follow accounts in school, you know, or something like that. What is it like? What is the clout chasing like in school Yeah.
00:35:55
Speaker
is cloud chasing like you saying from my standpoint or from in general like what you see like your observation i don't know like wait what do you i need you to like like are people like because you know how i mean for example and i mean like look kai sanat he did his thing he's doing his thing and so i think like the streamer world everybody's always trying to be the next you know person with a million followers or whatever so like okay Like some people, and and you you can see like, for example, the Bronx thing where everybody ran to, what's the the mall that they- Bay Plaza? Yeah, Bay Plaza joint. Yeah. you So the people, I know the people who um incited that. Uh-huh.
00:36:38
Speaker
or started it, whatever. But it's just... Don't indict yourself. Yeah, no. But it's just bad. It's just bad. But that, I feel like that Doing anything for club. Exactly. Just like that. know they're going to go viral off of that. Then they could be like, that was me. Yeah, there's a lot of bad stuff going on, though, with the whole cloud chasing stuff.
00:37:03
Speaker
I'm not going to go deep into it, but it's just bad. Well, no, that's what was, want your observation of it because like you're in, you're the one that's like, you're literally living this, right? You know, we've, we've gone through, I mean, i don't know if you remember a Knockout Game. We've gone through Subway Surfers. But like one, two, three, Knockout? What you mean? Nah, Knockout Game was like, if you, I don't know if you were old enough for this, but, or like old enough to be walking around for this, but like it was like. One, two, three, point them all, Knockout? What? Nah, what that? That, I don't know. I don't know what that is. Knockout game was like if you walk by, like there was like a group of kids and one kid would just swing on you to see if you see if they can knock you out.
00:37:38
Speaker
You remember that? You remember that? That one, two, three, knockout. Is that? That's like when you when you walk in my, you point to point them out, knock them out. Say in the comments. They know what I'm talking about. Say it in the comments. I would say that's to 2010s, like all the way 2015 maybe. Yeah, yeah.
00:37:54
Speaker
I played that game before. Yeah. I ain't never knock nobody out. My fist was too little. Like Boomp Gang stuff. He was running up in stores and wilding, taking stuff, running on. It's just wild. I never done that. Yeah, Boomp Gang. Boomp Gang. Y'all was crazy up in the Bronx. No, that ain't the Bronx. He from down south. I just know him from R.G. or something. You know the song? He running a store, he just like. Nah, that's crazy. He gave his life to God. He stopped doing that. He's like Y.M.B.
00:38:26
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You know why I'm based? I know why I'm based. course, oh folk Supreme. I You know what's crazy? I never ran into him. it And and i I used to hang out in front of Supreme and my religiously.
00:38:40
Speaker
And I never ran into him. That's crazy. But it ain't that crazy because people claim blocks that they don't own. And they fight for blocks they don't own. Yeah. Yeah, but like... Just like Jay-Z said. Brands, they don't have no part, no money, and no... You know what saying? But yeah, that's when your observation on like, what is that overall? Like, how does how do how do kids how do kids see that now? Like, is it just... Is it like, yo, I gotta be as big
Social Media Ventures of Bobo
00:39:05
Speaker
as somebody? Or like, they're really pursuing what they really want to pursue.
00:39:08
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They're definitely not pursuing what they want to pursue. Like, from what I've seen, yeah um it's definitely... um Copying off others. ah Seeing what other people are doing and going on for what they are doing.
00:39:21
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Like, yeah, like what y'all just said, clout chasing. it's very It's a lot of clout chasing going on. It's a lot of um following people and copycats. Like, shout out O, no idea is original. It's true. I love that saying because it's really true. Yeah.
00:39:37
Speaker
Nobody's original anymore Nobody tries to be original And that's the problem with today's society Everybody's That's why go yeah These things right here like these are they It's pros and cons to it It's definitely pros and cons to it yeah yeah what i mean When he started pur ah Pursuing like you know Posting on the on the internet like How did that make you feel?
00:40:00
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ah Like pre-Bobo the Kid Because he used Bobo before that And he was supposed to TikToks And all that type of stuff Cause he was like a young Like he was going down the streamer lane In the beginning Oh yeah And TikTok Him and his brother Like you what was real early in the game Mmhmm You know what I'm saying? I could have helped hone that craft a little more, but I was cooking up, pressing up shirts and all kinds of stuff. But when he turned Bobo the Kid, it's just Scott Craig. I was like, that sounds like Billy the Kid. That's like some gangster shit. I was like, yo, you made... Cause he's Ben Bobo, I'm like the kid part, was just like, hmm, got a ring to it. And you know what's so funny about that name is I made that name like just random. Like when I was making, like when I first made my first Instagram, probably when I was 12 years old, like so one year before we started going outside, just- Did you sneak off and make the Instagram? Nah, nah, nah, he was right there with me. Cause you know, you need to purr purr. Yeah, parental permission. So yeah, I just made that name like, yo, Bobo the Kid. didn't know what else to put. I was just like, Bobo the Kid.
00:41:07
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And I was just crowned. And then the youngest in charge, shout out to K. People just, the name. It's so funny right because he was Bobo the kid. He always been fly see Bobo when he was young he used to be the life of the party You know I'm saying he had crazy charisma. He was risen adult woman know yeah let love like yeah you know Like I'm just saying that's his background, man Very outspoken be on the block. Yo, Bobo. Yo, what's up? ah
00:41:39
Speaker
So it's like, once it was time, you know what I'm saying, it to lights came in action, it was what, natural. bound you know what I'm saying? like I remember copping him the Barclays, 9-4s. The triple blacks? um The triple blacks, right? And the Doe's in a pair of Gold Dome, H-E-G boots. Christmas, yeah. For Christmas, and I was just like, let me buy him some Black Fire.
00:42:03
Speaker
Because he won't cook it. Yeah. And it's just hot. Even though ACG, what what was that, four years ago? They wasn't back popping yet. No, it was 2022. Yeah. And, yeah, four years ago. I'm pretty good with my memory. So, yeah. So, like, yeah. And I was just like, and I remember him, like, and then I, like, bought him some Carhartt stuff. It was a size small and mint.
00:42:23
Speaker
You know what saying? Went to the Army and Navy and copped him some Carhartt stuff. He was just getting into it He was like, i wanted to this how I want to look, man. because he was in my closet. You feel me? Taking shit. So it's like, I'm like, here you go. Here goes the blessing. Here goes the kicks and the clothes that you could build off this. Now you could go your direction you want to go, however you want to style things, whatever you want to start buying now. And like,
00:42:45
Speaker
you know i thought you know I let him i let him like manage his page. You feel me? Because he was a little picky about it and stuff and stubborn about it. And I was just like, yo, you a strong-minded individual. You're Taurus.
00:42:57
Speaker
You're a bullhead. ben it I was just like, yo, do your thing, kid. Just don't post no wild stuff. And I have looking at me crazy. But yeah, like he took over his page and I just helped curate it, advise him at times.
00:43:11
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And like, yo, man, like I said, once we went to a wake, man, that day, they was like, who is this kid in the Avarex with these Barclays? You know what I'm saying? It just went crazy. With the on? It's crazy. Yeah, he had the AV on. Stole that from him.
00:43:25
Speaker
Shout out to Avarex, but those AVs ran a little small when I dropped them again. So, yeah. I don't know who listened, but I would like an Avarex. I still won. They don't fit snug for me. Those are my guys over there, but like, i probably gonna, maybe I gotta to lose one. I'll wait. But yeah. um yeah I wanna, to I mean, so like going to school and getting fits off.
00:43:49
Speaker
Yes. Like. I got to know the thought process. Like, are you are you trying to break next? Like, I'm pretty sure you were trying to break next in high school. Yes. Yeah.
00:44:00
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What? Yes. if we I mean, I'm going to just say one fit. Eggplants, DKNY carpenter jeans, Ebtek book bag, short sleeve, cool G, all black, short sleeve button up, polo, cool G.
00:44:16
Speaker
You? or I got kicked out of school in that fit too. You think? Or high school. I got kicked out. But anyway, yeah. what yo That was the start of some some sound terrible, but it turned out pretty good. But yeah, of course. 90s? It was what? It was a fashion show. Yeah, for sure. its It wasn't all sweatsuits. You know what I'm saying? We had naughty sweats. It was like naughty sweats.
00:44:40
Speaker
You know what saying? Go to Texas with sweats. Make tracks like I'm homeless. But like now they all wearing sweatsuits. So imagine what this kid is looking like in school. Nah, yeah. I'm very, I was saying school. He's the anti-sweatsuit kid. Like, you get dresses. It's crazy that it's, literally schools have, like it's everybody just rocking sweatsuits and slides. Yeah. They just going to school. Yeah, they look, going to school in pajamas. Like the sweatsuit,
00:45:03
Speaker
I'm not even going to say no names, no brands because I get very, im yeah, I'm too passionate about clothes and I'm very, I'm i'm a hard critic. Yeah, you got to be. Come on, like, yeah you know what i'm saying? Like, it's hard, like, seeing certain stuff like, dang, like, I wish it wasn't like this. I'd be wishing I was a kid in the 90s sometimes. I wish I had a time machine and all that. Nah, man. You changing the... not You standing out now, bro. That's like... there you You pushing it. so it's like... People are going to be like, oh, nah. Like, you can't be doing that. Like, you gotta... You... had you all i mean, I could... You exude confidence. So it's like...
00:45:42
Speaker
Like if people are being like, you know, oh yeah, I'ma pull up in, you know, sweats. They're like, oh nah, but I got class with Bobo today. I i can't now. Yo, it's mad funny. Like I was talking to one of my friends. She's a girl. She was like, yo, like we made a nickname for you. Pepto-Bismol, right? Because I had a, had I wore an outfit. Shout out Mikey Phelps. Shout out Hood Holiday. Yeah. I had a um pink, it was like a pink biggie. Yeah. One of the pink biggies he dropped, the Desert Storm joints. And I had the,
00:46:12
Speaker
ski pants that he he dropped and I had on ACGs or whatever. But- Oh, you went full. Full pink. Yeah. With the hood. Yeah, with the hood. Yeah. And then- You went full camera on. Yeah, they was like, they was like, um yo, like we call you Pepto-Bismol because don't know. I'm surprised they even know about that stuff. Yeah. Stomachs hurt. They eat Takis. Yo. Not they They still eat Takis?
00:46:37
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. Hot Cheetos and Takis? Hot Cheetos is not, nah. Hot Cheetos is out of it. Takis is definitely it. Hot Cheetos is classic. Nah, they are, they are. But people just eat, like kids eat Takis more now.
00:46:49
Speaker
I hate it. Seven in the morning, Takis. Like, it's crazy. I'd be like, yo, nah. I gotta chill. It's too early. You know you know what I be having in my head? Like visions of like when you just said like how do you know how do you look at school and how do how do people receive that? How do you dress?
00:47:09
Speaker
every everyone I got like a shudder of pictures in my head of him walking, because I'm sitting at my computer chair before he goes to school. And he's like, yeah, I got on this. im I'm like, I'm like, all right. He looking like a 90s. You feel me? call it new 90s. I was, you know, it's one of my little things. But yeah, I'm like, yo, I see what you doing. Who puts it on better?
00:47:33
Speaker
You and his agent. I'm not him. not him. No, no. Agent H. No, no, no. He got it. and He got it now. 15 and 15. 15 Van Dam. He's working with a lot of brands. Oh, yeah. He's working with a lot of brands. He's, yo, he actually is working.
00:47:50
Speaker
more and better than me. And I love that because you should want better for your children. yeah I'm so proud. So I support him. He's a real dad. yeah You know what I'm saying? When I was, what, 16, I was working at City Center of Angelica when Blair Witch Project came out.
00:48:04
Speaker
I was buying, like, I just spoke to the people at Ava Rex, the good people over there. And I was like letting know One of owners, I'm like, yo, couldn't even afford an A-Rex when was 16. Well, before started doing things I wasn't supposed to be doing. But when I had a 9 to 5. I love the vagueness all the time. You know what I'm saying? But at the cockpit, right around corner on Broadway and Houston, I copped a five-panel orange, like kind of bright orange. Mm-hmm.
00:48:31
Speaker
Avarex like wind brick nylon hat and like that was just my piece until I couldn't find me at Avarex somewhere down the line. You get what I'm saying? Yo, yeah, because that was me with Supreme camp hats. I would just cop camp hats because I couldn't fit the shirts. So I would just be like, I got it. I got it. You got make cool price points pieces. You know what saying?
00:48:49
Speaker
That's what helps build your brand. You make affordable pieces. But, I mean, come on.
00:48:56
Speaker
Look at this kid. No, he about to be 16, but, like, I mean, he was doing for a long time. Like, shout out to his cousin, Deja. She used to take him to Soho when he was younger take him to Kif and, you know, Bape and he was supreme. He was about five, six. I probably saw you. He was about that age wearing that stuff. He was look at this cool Like, yeah, we were like ping ponging. Like, I would get his low stuff. Yeah. And like all his other run around stuff. She would get him some stuff from down there. Then she'll buy him some J's. I'll buy him some J's. And he was just going crazy. was just fleet all around. He had hair. He was lowed out. True religion. I'll buy him true religion. Like, he been it. I've always been the flyest kid in my school, I guess. Is everybody in the family this fly?
00:49:40
Speaker
oh In their own way. Everybody has their own, yeah, everybody has their own like degree of fly. yeah um I'm probably the flyest side of my family aside from my son. Yeah. but I get some of it from my uncle. He used to work um down on East 3rd and 2nd Ave. So that was another reason I used to go downtown.
00:50:03
Speaker
And he was one of the first people who took me to Eddie Bauer. And that's where like in 90- know Eddie Bauer is? Of course. With the ready power, tucked in my guts under my Eddie Bauer. The club faddy style. In 96. I was wearing like a lot of Eddie Bauer and like when they had the green, they had only two colored Timbs in 96. They had the green ones and they had the blue ones with the brown collar and the double sole. I had the green ones with a green Woolrich my uncle passed down to me with the with the tan insides. You feel me?
Family Legacy of Fashion and Artistry
00:50:36
Speaker
With the fur, undetachable. With Eddie Bauer on. So I was dressing like that in the 90s. I'm not sure it the 76s or but the marred blues, look them up, they was fire. They looked aged and old, but they weren't. It just an ill blue. I was dressing like that, like... kind of preppy, hood, outdoor-ish. Like we had many styles in the 90s. Many styles. Many styles. That's where he gets lot of this from and I love it. I mean, have you, have you like showed him pictures of you younger? Like, we got a couple. Yeah, he, He'd be like, yo, I was putting this on. at this. He sees some that I did take because when I was young, I had a lazy eye and I didn't want to take a lot of pictures. I was very fly. Very, very fly. It's just, I was just shying away from the camera. I'm like, I,
00:51:25
Speaker
I beat myself up every day and I'm like, wait let me take a pic today. not not Because, out you know. Wait, you can like not have a lazy eye? I thought you had lazy eye. No, had surgery. Oh, see. I'm thinking like, oh yeah. look I was doing physical therapy. No, had surgery. Like it was ah it was pain to me. it was giving me a little pain. I was straining to read and stuff like that.
00:51:45
Speaker
I mean, of course it was somewhat cosmetic, but you know some doctors like, man, i get out of here. We're not doing that for you. But yeah, like I didn't take pictures because of that when I was young so much. But the ones I do have, he gets to see. like yeah You feel me?
00:51:58
Speaker
I got a few fire joints, you know what saying? Rockaway shorts. You know what I'm saying? Icy Soul Air Force with the loose straps, hot top. Like it's some joints in there, it's some joints. He get to see some pieces, like you know what saying? But I always point out the pieces I had and you know, I let them know. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't fake jacks like, yo I had this, I had that. I'd be like, listen bro, I had the black 10th Dunkin', but I didn't have the silver ones. with the Spurs Jack and the Hat and the Fat Fon Velour suit, great joint with the piping, with the white pipe. Like I break down, like I'm very descriptive. You are extremely descriptive. grew up around a lot of rappers. You feel me? Like, and we all, I spit too, but like I just don't do it for a living. So very descriptive with it. So it's easy to explain what I had and why and all that to him. I like storytelling. I went to college. I like writing and shit. So yeah. So yeah. Yeah, so this guy here, man. I just, I,
00:52:55
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Being like in a room with this conversation is just like, i need to see- All we do is talk about then, that's fine now, and the future. We talk too much. We're chatters. I'm not going to lie. You know what's crazy? It's because you don't hear a lot about that. You don't see that, especially you know within the black community, of black fathers and stuff like that. So it's beautiful to see. Definitely. and and you know You gotta push that to other people too because I think a lot of people just don't have conversations with their kids or like, you know, have that working relationship order to create this, like, you know, this bond. Then it's like you could pass down and be like, nah, you know, you gotta rock it like this. And it not come off of being like, oh, nah, that's my dad telling me this. I'm not gonna do that. You know? So I love the harmony of it because we don't see that. We always hear about like, Man, my dad don't understand me. I'm going to get out of here. It's dope. Was that from the jump? Was there ever a moment? I'm going to tell you right now, and I'm going to give it to you in short because I want to let my son talk. But basically...
00:54:03
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It was sacrifice. it was that's That's the one word I'm going to use, right? um You know, my mom, she almost about to retire from the VA a hospital. My dad, he still works some, but he's a freelancer. He's the artist. He went to School of Visual Arts. When Keith Heron went to school in the late 70s, he came to New York. So it's like, um I learned sacrifice from both my parents.
00:54:25
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You know saying? But like in another aspect from my father where it's like, listen, I'm a freelance. I'm a work on my own. I'm be an entrepreneur. I learned entrepreneurship from my father. You feel me? We painted murals. We did on-ends. We did, you know, graphic design, all kinds of things for people. You know what I'm saying? So he worked at Macy's doing layouts for the magazine. So been on the computer messing around, messing with arts. And man was on that Quark Express over here. There you go. See, you know. You know what I'm saying? I didn't even know you guys. People don't talk about that. I went to school for graphic design. I went to school for print production management. Okay, see? I know all of it.
00:55:06
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Remember they had the little, the sheets of with the letters on it, the font typefaces? yeah You scratch them off rub them off into, yeah, all that. Design markers, all that. You gotta get them on a lithography machine, bro. bedroom guy man room was a studio. yeah You feel literal, like drawing board, izu, all that. So was like, but he taught me sacrifice. And one of the big sacrifices I made was not working nine to five a lot of times in my life. Yeah.
00:55:31
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Like, yeah, I've periodically worked nine to fives, but I know how to get it how I live. And within that, I understand that I allot time for myself to allot time to spend with my children. Yeah.
00:55:44
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Yeah. So that's where the bonding came from. That's where the sacrifice. When you see me moving and shaking, I'm outside. They like, why he outside? But he fly though. Mm-hmm. But he like, yo, come I'm gonna go with you. Like, pop, what you doing? And I'm just like, yo, come on, let's do Let's get it. You know what I'm saying? Get to it. And it's just, yo, throw that on. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, I wasn't blue collar in a sense. I wasn't dirty. I come from like the hustler background and hustler. You know saying? Like, you know? Just looking decent. Influence. Yeah, so it's like always fly. Like, I'll be fly going to the corner store. Like, I might overdo it sometimes. you're also present.
00:56:21
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Oh, yeah. So, like, that's the biggest part. Yeah, yeah. Just being there. How's that feel? Just being there. Especially because I'm pretty sure you hear kids, like, you know. course. Like, my friends, like, a lot of their fathers, like, are going past the way. And some of my fathers, some of my friends' fathers is not there. Mm-hmm. So when I hear about that, you know, I definitely, I definitely like... Appreciate I appreciate Yeah. I thought you was about to cry. The way you was holding on to that, I thought you was about to let it go. Nah. I feel it right here. I definitely appreciate like just my dad actually being here. Yeah. But that also... My bad. But that also comes from his father actually being there too. Yeah, that's true, know what I'm saying? Like...
00:57:05
Speaker
It's just, it's deep. Our whole family, like, rest in peace our uncle. Well, that's my great uncle. That's his uncle, Uncle Melvin. You know, you can tell. You can tell. Oh, yeah. My uncle was a master teller for 40 years. He went to the service, and he went to school for tailoring, and he had a teller shop, Melvin's custom tellering, downtown D.C. for 40 years. God bless his soul. He transitioned about two years ago. Mm-hmm.
00:57:33
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And um he passed down some you know some stuff to us, some equipment and you know things of that nature. But he just, you know he had it in him. My mom was a model, my dad was a fine artist. you know he He started doing graphics, graphic arts, but to this day, he still paints. that' He still paints portraits, murals. like He has pieces in museums in DC and everything. We got pieces of Diana Ross, Jay-Z, Prince, like Michael Jackson.
Jay-Z Concert Experience
00:58:02
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So you asking him for the Jay-Z tickets? Yo, man. Yo, we got it. Yo, we from the Bronx. We got to be in the out of being there. I mean, people have mixed opinions about Jay-Z and, you know. I mean, I've never seen him live. His personal tell him my life and his performance.
00:58:17
Speaker
if You know, they say he's a little, like, you know, weak on stage. He doesn't really... Look, I want to it. to see it. I mean, we seen Unplugged. We see, you know, we see. I never went to a NAZ concert. It's been years. I never went. It's just the aura. I doubt who's going to do that at Yankee Stadium. Nah. Yankee Stadium is too loud. They said that the last one was really good. The energy is mystical. It's going to be crazy. Imagine, you know, all the people that's going being there from everywhere, you know?
Advice to Younger Self
00:58:45
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Well, we're towards the the end of the podcast. So i want to ask one last question for you, both of y'all, but Vaughn's going to go first, right? We're going to go, we're going to, we're going to go back to the flights because we're going say that was your first kicks, right? ah
00:59:00
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Now one of them you're, you're, you're older, you're older Vaughn behind your younger self. What would you tell him as he opens that box?
00:59:10
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What I would tell him is don't look at the sneaker for what it could do. look at this Look at the sneaker what you could do for it.
00:59:24
Speaker
What I mean by that? Yeah, please. What I mean by that? I'm to elaborate. Look at Tinker Hatfield. He's a designer. Look how many like iconic sneaker styles he designed. You get what I'm saying? Maybe one day he was just like wearing Procats or PF Flyers and like he can't imagine designing the shoes of the the magnitude that that he has. You know what I'm saying? And what I mean by that is just...
00:59:53
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think with a Think and live with a creative mind. Because you can basically do anything you put your mind to. Some people don't believe that. It's the law of attraction, manifestation, big manifestos. yeah Your turn, Bobo. I mean, this is like five years ago. This was like two weeks ago. That wasn't five years ago. What would you tell younger Bobo as he's about to open that that box of the the fives, the metallic fives?
01:00:18
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um I'll probably tell myself, like... um
01:00:25
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Kinda what he said, though. He said it too well. Like, I can't even- Nah, you gotta say your own way, man. Come on, you can't cop out right now. We gotta hear Like, don't know, to be honest. I don't know what I would tell myself. You're right, that was so close. Like, I don't even know what I would tell myself. yeah I would just tell myself, be true to yourself.
01:00:43
Speaker
Just be yourself. like don't let the sneaker change you or don't let a materialistic item change you because i see lot of people like that happens with a lot of people for sure you know just be yourself with or without that oh have confidence yeah i feel like confidence is a big thing in my life because You know, people people say things, definitely. But if you have confidence, none of that matters. Confidence is key. Yeah.
01:01:15
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Like, definitely. Facts, man. Beautiful. Manifest confidence. Yeah. You heard?
Podcast Info and Reflections
01:01:21
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everybody know where to find y'all. Yeah. Yeah. You can find me at Vaughn Dawn United n yi Yeah, Bobo the Kid on Instagram. um Yeah. and that's all you No TikTok.
01:01:33
Speaker
No, we ain't tapping to that yet. We got TikTok, but we ain't turned up on TikTok just yet. You know where to find me, who is Hassan. Also, need to follow the podcast at MyFirstKicksPod. Hit me up if you got MyFirstKicks story. Info at MyFirstKicks.com. Don't forget to hit up the Patreon, patreon.com slash MyFirstKicks. I got tons of stuff on there.
01:01:53
Speaker
I got two... Patreon exclusive episodes I got the walkthrough With the space that we talked about With me and Jinx We talk through We talk about everything That's on the walls And in the space At a It was called Lineage Lineage The lineage of The genealogy The phone posits Yeah the lineage is The intro No The genealogy of a phone posits Something like that Something like that Yeah We talked about that whole thing We walk through it Walk And we take pictures of Pictures We walk through And he explains Every single piece That's in there So
01:02:25
Speaker
You're only going to find that within the Patreon. But I'm to kick it to myself to do the outro and do the Patreon shoutouts. Peace. Peace. Thank you for listening to this week's episode with Bobo the Kid and Von Don. I hope you enjoyed that. Getting to sit with a father-son duo who are fly as hell is super dope. um I think that, like, I learned a lot, and I hope that, you know, you take some of the stuff that Bobo has been saying and, you know, use that in a way to kind of connect with the youth because, you know, we have to bridge this gap, in my opinion, and it's so important. Like, this is one of my favorite episodes. Like, we are... If you grow... Like, growing up, you know, we have
01:03:11
Speaker
And I'm pretty sure a lot of the people that listen to me are you know parents or you know millennials like i I. know. I know my demographic. But it was very interesting to hear how his dad connects with him and the rest of his family and how they really get fly together. And it's like a family affair. And, and it really thinks me brings back to like me when I was younger and how I mainly just like had to only pick one thing and kind of focus on that. And i do think, you know, the, the thing that rings true is like,
01:03:51
Speaker
kids of immigrants ah catchphrase, we are our our parents' wildest dreams. And I think that you know growing up from my mother, who's you know an immigrant that immigrated here and wanted to give me the best life that that she can give me, like i take that onus on on like trying to you know experience as much as I can. And so to pass that on to the younger generation, like my experience, and try to like help and usher and and kind of want to see them take sneaker culture into whatever form that we believe that it should become. And that can only be a positive and that can only be, you
Emotional Journeys and Gratitude
01:04:36
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know, growth. And in order to do that, you do have to honor these things. And I feel like Bobo has a really good grasp on it because his dad has been an integral part of this or has seen
01:04:48
Speaker
a lot of how sneaker culture has grown and adapted and become something so big within the New York scene. And so hearing both in their stories and how Vaughn's story goes into Bobo's story, like Super dope. Super, super dope. So I really appreciate y'all for tapping in. I really appreciate you if you get to this point of the podcast, because I know at any given moment you're going to like, I'm tapping out. I'm good. So like, you know, the people that stay for the extra innings, like I like to call it, I really appreciate y'all for for hearing me out at the outro. I'm going to keep this one short. You know, last week I talked a little bit about what I'm going through and, you know,
01:05:36
Speaker
going to Cincinnati and getting some love and talking to Phil and getting his advice about the situation that I'm dealing with really helped me out. Shout to Kari as well because I also asked him for some advice about the situation I'm going to as well. And, you know,
01:05:56
Speaker
I'm really appreciative of everybody that showed me a love out in Cincinnati. i Getting to meet, you know, Jfire Fridays, B-More Sneaks, Rami SB, you know, my my people's brother D, Boricua, Ginger, like everybody that was there, Tiana. um And I'm sorry if I miss everybody else. ah But...
01:06:20
Speaker
ah Melissa Chanel, you know, we we we all fam at this point. And it's so great that, especially during this time, like I've been such a rollercoaster of emotions. Like I talked about, you know, my best friend's birthday was was last week and and, you know, dealing with his passing and, um you know, wishing that I can get like a text message from him and and all that. But like,
01:06:47
Speaker
I was having such a huge up and down roller coaster and the roller coaster has not stopped. um You know, right before this, I got like a really interesting phone call, but I was also dealing with the current, you know, situation I'm dealing with right now, which I won't go into. But I really appreciate every one of y'all who stick around to the end. And gives this a listen and um appreciate the messages that I've been getting about, you know, keep my head up and, you know, sending prayers. I really appreciate that.
01:07:21
Speaker
It goes a really long way and it does, it does, it does, it does brighten the the amount of darkness that is around us each and every single day um you know because like i do talk about that those moments where like you know i'll randomly get a message on monday and be like yo your podcast really inspires me and so that's what i'm trying to do i'm trying to bring more light more more stories more more things that we can like kind of hitch our hat on and get us through these days and, and some conversations that are just needed in order for us to reach wherever we want to reach. So,
01:08:05
Speaker
Really appreciate y'all for tapping in with me each week. But let's do Patreon shoutouts.
Conclusion and Call to Action
01:08:10
Speaker
Shoutout to everyone who has been a patron. We just hit 11 patrons. um That's huge. That's huge. I never thought, didn't even think I would get one. So really want to shoutout everybody. And you know you can also get shouted out at the end of an episode by becoming a Patreon subscriber.
01:08:27
Speaker
at patreon.com slash myfirstkicks. And you can become a Patreon subscriber by subscribing to the Patreon at patreon.com slash myfirstkicks. I only have one tier. It's a $5 tier. With that, you get Patreon-exclusive episodes. You get extra content. And I'm trying to build that out as much as I can, with especially when I get more free time. I do have content.
01:08:48
Speaker
from 2023's ComplexCon that will live on there once I have time to put it on there. It's going to be some fire stuff. I promise you that. So let's do the Patreon shoutouts. We have Ross Adams. We have Adam Neustetter.
01:09:03
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We've got Derek Lipkin. We've got Adam Butler. We have Plox. We've got Derek Hawkins. We have Jordan Kaiser. We have Samia.
01:09:14
Speaker
We have Sean Hates You. We also have... Brett, and we have Jesse, Jesse G. Appreciate every single one of y'all for tapping in with me each week and making it this far, especially if you want to hear your name.
01:09:31
Speaker
And of course, you can also get your name said by subscribing to the Patreon, patreon.com slash myfirstkicks. And of course, if you want to check out more of this podcast, check out these two episodes here. Subscribe to the podcast if you're on YouTube. And you know what we say each week when we end these episodes. Wear your kicks.
01:09:52
Speaker
Peace.