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It's All About Perspective's with Sim From The Hill
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This week Sim From The Hill is on the podcast we talk about his motivation to create inspiring videos. His journey working in SOHO and how that lead to him being a creative. What it takes to be an addition to culture and how to push culture forward. What made him want fresh kicks and pushed his overall style. We also talk about the importance of have perspective. Plus a ton more!
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Transcript
Value in Social Gatherings
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I'm saying like if it's a big dinner, they was just happy they could selfie it up with with famous bro over here this that and the third and it's like or you can make sure that you got some value so that if there's ever a dinner niggas yo we're simming. Yeah. we You know what I'm saying? Like we're hot side like yeah. What's going on? Like, we need him here. The last time he was here, my guests, they fucking loved it. yeah You know what i'm saying? Or the food that he cooked was great. Or he... You know what I'm saying? Even if... The conversation that he had. Or he just made sure everybody's plate was... Yo, you done with your cornbread? You need more? You done with your... dress Like, people be just...
00:00:37
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I don't know, bro. They be the dude from life where he's like, you want your girlfriend? Yo, bro, just like taking space. Nigga be in the corner just watching, happy that he's there. And then he's like, oh, nigga not done with girlfriend. I'm going to see it. It's like, yo, bro, that's not valuable. And the next time we have dinner, we're going make sure you're not here.
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Yeah.
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What's good
Introduction to 'My First Kicks' Podcast
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everyone? Welcome back to My First Kicks, the podcast where i use sneakers as a through line to better get to know my guests. Sitting across from me this week is none other than Sim on the Hill.
00:01:12
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Sim from the Hill. Sim from the Hill. My bad. I've been staying in my head like eight times. I was going to go like full. I was going like Mr. Wentz of your hood. Right, right, right. Nobody knew you. That's all good. Sim on the Hill. I fuck with Sim on the Hill too. That's cool. uh yo welcome the podcast yo appreciate it bro this baby setup yo come on man uh look i met you at the omi what would you call he's just the stupid he's changing to the stufu now yeah yeah the omi the omi uh workshop yeah yeah yeah he did the um the acgs the easter egg thing yeah and uh there but i've been watching your videos for a hot minute you know i think that
00:01:51
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you know If you're not familiar, my boy here does some of like the best you know motivational things that we like videos that we need to hear nowadays.
Creating Intentional Content
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Because I think like a lot of people that are creating content definitely making content for themselves and not really necessari necessarily making content for everybody else. Even from like a content creator. you know, format where it's just like, i I got to experience this. All right, cool. Like, that's good for you. Like, you know? thanks um But I think it's just like, you know, we talked about it at at the event where it was just like, you know, I love that you're being motivational and intentional with your stuff. And so,
00:02:29
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Early on, just wanted to give you your flowers to make sure everybody taps in on on his videos. Repost that, because I always repost your videos. ah My favorite one is definitely the one that that's like you have pinned. is the the six you You did work for six months and then spent six minutes promoting it. yeah That's real shit, though. i mean and Everything I always talk about is always like some shit I dealt with. and I feel like that'd be the hardest part, being vulnerable about that. But that usually is the thing that like people think about the most. Yeah. You know that it's it's because like when I watch your videos, I'm like, I'm thinking about it for myself as well, because I mean, I've been doing this six years and
Challenges for Content Creators
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stuff like that. And, you know, my my goal is always to get better as I'm doing Right.
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When I see a lot of other people that they're kind of just like, you know, blow up and they don't get better yeah or like they don't try to like you know pivot or you know do something that's like you know motivational for themselves to to kind of just keep doing this thing. It does feel discouraging because it's just like, you know, i I've come from this train of thought of just like,
00:03:31
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I'm looking for, I'm trying to help people before me and after me. fact And I think a lot of people that that create content or like work within the industries that like we're definitely gonna be ta tapping in about, like they' they're just there for right now and they don't care. They just leave a wasteland and be I'm gonna get mine. I'm a get mine. You feel me?
00:03:50
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And it's like, I feel like even that, I'd be like, As I started creating content and shit, bro. i shit yeah as i started ps going up yeah bro not As I started creating content and shit, it made me think about like the roles people play and stuff like that. And even the voice that I want to talk from. like I never want to blame nobody. not going to lie. I don't necessarily have to champion somebody. But like if the kid that just started doing a certain content a month ago started blowing up, I'm just the type of dude. like i don't know if it's because I'm a Leo. don't know if it's because I'm from Harlem. like
00:04:23
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It just make me think about not like what I'm doing wrong, but like it just it doesn't stop anything from my timeline, if that makes any sense.
Staying Relevant in Social Media
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And it kind just comes down to Like for whatever reason that happened, that is what happened. Am I going model? Am I going to like what cue am I going to take from that? You feel me? Is it going to motivate me more? Am I going to take a strategy that he got? Am I this, that, and the third? But the one thing I'm not going to do is bitch and moan about the fact that he don't deserve it or this, that, and the third. That should make me feel like if I do deserve it, that I got to go harder. And I just feel like in this social media age, as everything keeps changing, staying sucker free is very big part of that. Because the one nigga I'm never going to be is complaining about him, him, him, and him. And then you strip it down, and it's really because Sim Phil is little... You're insecure. Uncomfortable, you feel me? Like, that's what we not doing at all. I'd rather talk about the things that if we in control of this shit, like control, you feel me? We can't control old boy starting last month and doing mad Googles and now he's the voice of this. Like, all right, cool. Well, become a different voice and show people why your shit is better than his shit. You feel me? Like, because complaining about what happens, bro, these shit's just trains, bro. It's going to keep moving. either going hop on or going to say, fuck that, I'm to walk or whatever it is. But like, standing there complaining on the platform all day, that shit don't do nothing, bro. And this is New York, we gotta keep shit moving. So it's like, are you gonna get to the destination or fucking not, bro? Stop worrying about who got there first and who got there quick and all of that other shit.
00:05:49
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I just, I think, and it's funny because like I've had this mentality for the longest, right? Because my biggest thing has always been, like id rather I rather, love putting people on new new
Cultural Contributions via Sneakers
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stuff. Like I love put, that's my thing. I'd rather help somebody find something new versus being like, i'm gonna get on here and complain about why this person in front of me is like, Oh, they're doing better. You know? Like, I'm just like, yeah, okay, cool. You know? But, like, my biggest thing, and I don't know if i don't know if this is, i you know, ah sneaker culture, Clark Kent, like, right right clark Clark taught me, not, like, through his videos. I didn't get to meet him. I did meet him one time, but, like, I didn't get to, like, really, like, chop it up with him. But he always taught me, like,
00:06:30
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that you want to be an addition to the culture. You don't want to just take from it. yeah you know And so i every time i when i since I started this podcast, I always just had the intention of like, I want to add. I want to add to this thing that I love. And it's like is hard to see people that just be like, you know you see people just take and take and take. And it's just like, so then there's room for people who want to just...
00:06:54
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You know what I'm trying to say? It really comes down to like, I feel like people downplay perspectives too much.
Power of Unique Perspectives
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I feel like, yes, there is like a series of like connections you have and fucking the money you got and this, that, and the third that helps you get there. But like perspective is heavy, bro. I feel like the time that we live in now is showing you people that don't have any of the resources that you typically need, but with like a like the conviction of their perspective, you could get as far as you need to. You know what i'm saying? I also understand the like the anti aspect too. yeah Being the the Pepsi to somebody's coke. You know what I'm saying? Where it's like, you like it's a marketing tool. yeah You just act like, fuck that shit.
00:07:37
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That's like their main, you know what I'm saying? That's your main enemy and that helps you become the hero. I get that. yeah i You know, it's a marketing tactic, but I don't think you should base everything on that because it's like, all right, cool. Besides just being, yes, Pepsi is the anti to Coca-Cola, but like what else? You feel me? Like at a certain point, that can't be just everything it is. But i don't know, him bro. I just feel like every like there's so much going on and I feel like perspective is one thing that's undervalued. I just feel like value in general, like people don't make sure that
00:08:09
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when they step in a room, they got the value.
Purpose and Value at Events
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Niggas just be happy to be in the room. You know i'm saying? Like if it's a big dinner, niggas just happy, they could selfie it up with with a famous bro over here, this, that, and the third. And it's like, or you could make sure that you got some value so that if there's ever a dinner, niggas, yo. Where's Sim at? You know what I'm saying? Where's Haas at? What's going on? like We need him here. The last time he was here, my guests, they fucking loved it. yeah You know what I'm saying? Or the food that he cooked was great. Or he... You know what I'm saying? The conversation that he had. Or he just made sure everybody's plate was... yeah You done with your cornbread? You need more? You done with your... dressip like People be just...
00:08:52
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I don't know bro. They be the dude from life where he's like, you want your cornbread? Yo bro, just like taking space, nigga be in the corner just watching, happy that he's there and then he's like, oh, nigga not done with his cornbread, I'm see it. It's like, yo bro, that's not valuable. And the next time we have dinner, we're gonna make sure you're not there. You feel me? That'll be the nigga who when like everybody, all the scragglers leave, they'll be like, yo, I wasn't feeling son over here. wasn't feeling son. Because it's like you're not bringing anything that will make anybody even fight to want to keep you here. Niggas just might have invited you for the one time because they was there. But I feel like we just also live in an age where like niggas be cool with that. They be cool being in a room.
00:09:31
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for no reason and they won't make themselves value. Because you could be in a room, you might get a couple chances you're in a room for no reason at all. you know what I'm saying? Or maybe something online, somebody's seen a post, they invite you somewhere to stand in third, but I feel like it becomes your job to Especially if you want to be in that room. right yeah Make yourself valuable. Don't just be like, okay, I made it. Now you just said that. I'm not supposed to be here. Right, because that's what it really gives the end of the day. I'm not really supposed to get be here, but i don't know, bro. I feel like when it comes to value and like validation and all these other things, there's so many levels of it. And I think the reason it's such a heavy topic is because it's...
00:10:09
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It's like the algorithm of this shit is changing all the time. Yo, the time. All the time. You feel me? And I think it's just like it's not conducive to kind of build stuff, right? So, like, we talk about sitting in this room, right? Yeah.
00:10:25
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If you not going in there, not like you don't need an agenda, yeah but you just, you if you if you're not leaving there with like a new contact or like, or ah a new friend, at at the bare minimum, a new friend. Just like a person that you just spent the whole, like, yo, we got this in common. right That's all you need. Right? Because then at the at that at that point, now you're you're building something. the bare minimum.
00:10:46
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But like if you're just there to just sit down and be like, oh, cool. Yeah. The fish was good. Fucking hop on your close friends. Yeah. I can't believe I'm here. yo Yeah. It's like, okay. Like, I don't know, bro. But I also think it's just like that's a lot of what we see, especially in like our space, like, you know, especially in New York City. And and this, you know, very critical about, you know, there's so many events going on at all times. Right. And.
00:11:10
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Shoot, just like even this past week, there's just mad Nike stuff and Adidas stuff. And there's always things and it's just like, are you going there really add value or are you really just going there because somebody's just like, I want to give you something for free? Rob Markman, Like what's your reason for being here? Rob Yeah. mean that shit, you know, it comes down to that.
00:11:32
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And i don't know man, it's just also just like, even when people curate their their chosen groups, you know what I'm saying?
Curating Valuable Event Groups
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Like I hope people keep those kinds of things in mind. Once again, I'll never be the person who says don't include this person. Rob Yeah same. Markman, However,
00:11:48
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pushing people to do the right shit. Yo, these people are adding value in this way or like, it's like, I don't know. I feel like sometimes we people, I don't even know what the word is, but like, it's not enough credit for the people who are like going out of their way to be intentional about the right things. yeah You know what I'm saying? Like, if you doing your thing crazy, let's say, okay, the Omi shit. Shout out to my brother Omi too. That's my dog. Future guest. Yeah, gangsta. Right?
00:12:14
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Omi, right? If I would went in there and he just had a whole bunch of like, Bozos and no names and like people was cloudy. yeah i might holla at him about the side or some shit like that, but I'm not going to be in there and be on something yo, the fuck is this?
00:12:27
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But I always, when you go into a room and someone does pick people, like they're intentional about like cultural selections and this, that, and the third, I'll make sure to tell somebody, yo, that was good. You feel me? yeah i mean You have to encourage that kind of stuff. yeah You know what I'm trying to say? Because we live in an age where niggas will just go clout. They'll go blue check whoever's You know what I'm saying? And that that whole thing is dying as well. Because even when it comes to a brand you're trying to push, just having somebody that got a name that's not that's not doing enough anymore. You know what I'm saying? Paying 20 bands to get your t-shirt on a celebrity might not do it.
Supporting the Podcast
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That's crazy. People do that shit, bro. Yo, he's a football player. And it's like, nigga, I've never looked at him for fashion a day in my life. Why would you pay 20 bands to... Like, he's not going to... You know what I'm saying? But that was... Once upon time, though, that worked. For sure. Before we jump into the question, of course, I have to remind y'all to like, subscribe, and comment on this video if you're watching this on YouTube. And... If you are listening to this on Apple or Spotify, hit that review, put five stars on it, write a review. It helps the podcast out tremendously. Both things help the podcast out tremendously. But if you want to help out the podcast for real, for real, join the Patreon, patreon.com slash myfirstkicks. You get extra content there. You get as much insight as I can give.
00:13:50
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on maybe future guests or whatever I can muster up because it's not a lot of time in this world, but I try to put time into everybody. that puts you know their hard earned dollars into Patreon. So patreon.com slash my first kicks.
00:14:04
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Let's jump back in into the episode. You feel me? I mean, I think it's just like now what happened was was COVID and everybody started buying bots to
Critique of Pitch Decks
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make themselves look bigger. But you can't, when you buy, like during that time, I think it was just like a perfect storm. It was just like, you can inflate to a hundred thousand and then be like, yo, I got brand deal, bro.
00:14:25
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Yo, they hit me up, bro. I got a brand. I got a hundred thousand. Oh, you start pitching yourself. My biggest thing now is I hate, and I'm going to make a video about this. Very your style too. I hate pitch decks. What? No, but in this in this capacity. I'm going pitch to deck crazy right now. want to know mean. But i'm talking about I'm not talking about,
00:14:45
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like what i'm talking about what you're doing is different what um'm What you're doing is like, like you're you're you have a brand, you're working, right? right right Content creators, specifically, if they're just constantly pitch decking, right we're just giving these brands ideas. That they can re-rock and take. Exactly. So you take that away, now these people gotta to come to you. And I think the the biggest thing people aren't realizing is that when you grow organic audiences, like youers and mines, right? Now we have a following that we can actually actively bring with us, right? Versus a big number. So if you pitch if you're if you're pitching, nah, it's gotta be, they gotta pitch you because they want your audience, right? They want the way you speak to your audience so that you can be like, yo, you know, what really helped me is alpha brain, just a joke. But you know, it's really unlocked my third eye. You know, like now I'm really thinking about perspective. Like, you what I mean? Like- Nah, never thought about that. That's real shit though. That's definitely real shit. I'm kind of going through some shit like that now because I feel like they wanted something from me and I'm just giving, don't even want to talk about what brand, but like I'm just, I'm trying to figure out what they want. And this morning I was just like, yo, I need to ask them. Like I need to be straight up clear. Yeah.
00:16:03
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Because I don't know if they just, like idea farming for me and like, you know what I'm trying to say? yeah But it's like, a real thing that's a real thing though. Cause you gotta look at it like this, right? And I come from a corporate background and I've been in rooms where people are pitching straight up TV shows. Right? So like,
00:16:20
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I've seen every aspect of it from like the highest level. And when you look at it like this, right? If you go in there and you don't pitch them something that only speaks to you yeah and then they can't like, you can't re-rock it. That was the next thing I was about to You know? Like, like yeah.
00:16:34
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I guess that's a part of it as well. Like making sure if I'm giving you ideas, it's shit that like, you might could try this, but it's not going to get done. How I could get done. Or you can't get it.
00:16:45
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I could give you certain like people, but like what they'll do for me, And for the price they'll do it for me for, you can't get it. So, you know what I'm saying? Like, I guess that might be a part of like making sure you, you might got to give someone like a super beta version of of a pitch deck. Real shit. yeah yeah Whereas like- It's got to be like, yeah to be honest, like, and this is for anybody who's listening, like for real though, it's just like,
00:17:10
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we gotta turn the tables yeah in this in this industry specifically because like yes and look there are people that have these jobs that are listening to this as well but it's like we gotta those people do have to sell you on why you should we have to work together because that If you're just going to them and be like, yo, I need you, I need you're coming,
Youthful Creativity vs Business Practices
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you're going down. Like, you're looking, you're making them look down on you. Facts. So, like, yeah. Shit, that's a whole nother thing, too. Yo, gang, I literally made a video about this yesterday. I haven't put it out yet, but I'm 33, like, and I'm not weird about my age, nothing. Niggas be trying to, I don't know. I'm 37, bro. i My birthday's on Thursday. Oh, fine. Happy early birthday. You feel me? I never would have thought you was 37. I never would have thought you were 33. Yo bro, but niggas be telling me that and then it's like, yeah, I'm not hiding my shit either. I'm 33 gang. I'm very happy to make it to 33. But the reason I was bringing that up is that like, yo bro, we're at the age where we are the new bosses. The old niggas need us. yeah Respectfully. do you You feel me? Respectful to the old. And when I say old niggas, like the corporations, the brands, the people, it's brands and situations that have been around for 50 years and they make a hundred million every year, no problem.
00:18:24
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they might have recently started to see that the shit that was working before is not working. yeah And that's why they need us. And shout out to my young boys, you feel me? Y'all might not be there yet.
00:18:35
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I was obviously like 10 years ago, 15 years ago. i would want to be in a great position where a brand would need me, but it's like, I don't, it's not just experience. It's also just like,
00:18:46
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is young boy mind. It's like, you know what i'm saying? Like you're all over the place. A great idea, you might be ready to put your life savings into it. And it's like, when you start understanding business and stuff like that, you realize everything doesn't go like that. You don't follow full on certain trends or certain trends, you got to see when you know about the trends. Certain trends you just got on, but that shit is on the on the downfall, you feel me? Versus like, yo, I think this shit's about to blow. Then a week later, it's a little bit high. you know I'm saying? It's just like the stock market. It's just like anything else. Like you got to catch it while it's going up. Yeah. But I mean, there's also no, like even being the
Embracing Individuality
00:19:21
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polar opposite of that. Like, yo, I'm going to be the tastemaker. Right. ah You know, of this trend. Right. And then really buying into it and living it because a lot of people just. That's a whole nother thing as well. in and out If this is something that isn't just a trend you and it's not just a moment for you, eyes show us what's deep about it you feel me like be someone that's actually putting us on to why this isn't just the trend um but i've just been talking to like a lot of my boys lately about that shit like yo we're really the new boss is like even if you're not in a realm you might have the connections and you could like fucking you could you could point guard the situation and just like make it be oh yo you do this you do this you do this you do this and that shit is a whole voltron type power you know what i'm saying like
00:20:05
Speaker
But I say all this to say it's like we're just at the perfect age where it's like we understand how certain things work. We understand how certain business works. um we might We're more in tune with the young people than the older heads and the corporate people. right But at the same time,
00:20:21
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going against the younger people, it's like we know how these corporation corporations work, we know how the business works. And it's like, nah, we're in the perfect position to be the leaders for our butt. Everybody our age doesn't see that. And ah feel like the way technology and shit is moving,
00:20:38
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it like it doesn't help the argument because there's some people who are our age and if they haven't hopped on social media, it's over. You know what I'm saying? That shit is like their biggest nightmare. Like, whoa, put my face on the camera. like That's what I'm saying. like If you haven't been doing it for a little while,
00:20:55
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It's like being 700 pounds and looking at the treadmill. It's like, bro, I'm scared to even, you feel me? Like I don't even want to face myself in that. Yeah, It's crazy, yeah. I don't know, but.
Building Authentic Brand Relationships
00:21:06
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I do think though, like, I mean, I think now we're also seeing like the tide of like people that have really loved this stuff, really sit at the table in some of these brands. And that's where I'm saying, you know, they already know what you can bring to the table. So now how do you have the conversation to build the relationship instead of just being like, here's a pitch deck.
00:21:31
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This is what I can do. Be like, yo, I see what you're doing. I see you really tapping in with the community. This is what i what what we can do. Let's do this together. And I think I've actually gotten opportunities more that way of having conversations instead of just me being like,
00:21:46
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Here's a pitch deck. Here's the podcast. There's how many followers. Like, it's just like, you know what I mean? Because facts. Because nine times out of ten, they already know the podcast is doing good. They already know they fuck with you for a
Individuality in AI Era
00:21:57
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reason. That's why they approach you. So it's like, I feel like like structuring up. I think the older I get, I'm also realizing that like, all right, even when you get certain opportunities, certain research and things like that you should do to help your argument, to help what it is that you're trying to get done. Because...
00:22:12
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these niggas might be approaching you and have a certain bag for you, but they want you to do something you're not willing to do. yeah And the difference might literally be you just bringing up, hey, listen, I do this and I know why you guys are, what's it call it, but if I approach this angle, I might could give you guys some one of one sauce that y'all never got. yeah And that might help you know your whole thing. Yeah, and I think individuality is what we need now.
00:22:34
Speaker
And that's why I love what you bring to the table. That's why I love your videos. Because that is what we need. We need to hear that. Especially now with all this AI and people being like, fake motivational videos. You what I You gotta tell niggas, you gotta say bugged out shit. You know what I'm saying? You gotta make people know like, yo, this is not AI. I'm not perfect all the time, but my thought process on this is this. I feel like that's like, it's the only way we're gonna know real people. You know saying?
00:23:03
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Man.
Sim's First Sneakers and Community
00:23:04
Speaker
ah So you're here to answer the question. Let's go. Ask everybody each week. And that question is, what's your first case with that first pair sneakers you absolutely need to have? First pair really, really need to have. I mean, you're from Harlem, so it's It's an ACG boot. It's only... Nah, honestly, think it was like an Air Bacon or something like that. Oh, I see. That's definitely a Harlem shoe, yo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It might have been like an Air Bacon or something like that. I could like... You know, that's a shoe that I wanted super, super bad, but I could give you a more illustrious story about a sneaker early on. Yeah.
00:23:38
Speaker
um And shout out to my bro, my bro Lonnie. You feel me? I remember this was the first and only time ever I did this in my life. But I remember there was a school trip in fifth grade.
00:23:50
Speaker
And I wanted to get some fresh ups for school oh to go on a school trip because there was like some girl I liked or something. you guys going you the Biggest motivator for young niggas, by the way. You feel Nigga changed his whole life. Oh, you like this button up now? Nah, I'm just wearing straight button-ups. Mom, I got to go to Sears. Yo, for real. um But I wanted to get some ups.
00:24:19
Speaker
I couldn't get the ups because didn't have the tax money. And the place I went to, I felt like they sold me shoes before and there was no tax. I thought I had enough and I didn't have enough. It like right on the money? Mind you, it's only like $6 or something. I already asked my mom for like the 10 and it was just, I can't get this other six. But I remember going to my brother Lonnie house and he gave me some fold deposit phone posits to wear. And like, you know, I'm not sitting here like pumping like, yo, borrow your shoes from your friends because I never did that again. i don't share clothes, nothing. yeah But that shit meant a lot to me at the time because there was some feats I probably wouldn't have gotten at all. And I didn't have like, I don't have older brothers. I got two older sisters. yeah So I didn't really grow up like having older people pass me down
Camaraderie in Sneaker Culture
00:25:01
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shit. He had an older brother who like...
00:25:04
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He just, came yo, bro, like his older brother, I'll never forget this too. Shout out my bro Lonnie. If you watch this, you're going to like, yo, you always talk about this. But like his brother, just cool shit. Like his brother bought him a polo sweater and some Vasquez for Valentine's Day one year. was like nine years old. I thought that was the waviest shit ever because all I knew before that was Valentine's Day was for like couples and like women and shit. u To see his brother come in his room after we get off of school like, oh, I got you something. to Have Valentine's Day. i was like, yo, that's fucking hard. You feel me? But like, yo I guess I'm bringing up this story to say like,
00:25:42
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Fuck the sneakers. It was how I got the sneakers. It was me being in need, wanting to be fresh, and my bro giving me something, and me being like, i don't want to wear your sneakers. That's kind of weird. But then I wore it, and I got compliments and shit, and I was just like, damn, that meant a lot. Like that whole, the transfer of that kind of energy of like, yo, bro, there's nothing here.
00:26:01
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That was some shit that like really- Nah, that's real brother shit right there. You feel that was like It's stuff like that. And once again, bringing up that same year, the Valentine's Day, his brother giving him that. it was just something where it was like, that's when sneakers started meaning something different to me in that kind of way. You know what I'm saying? Where it was like, damn.
00:26:19
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Like, since I was a kid, I can't wait. And I could do it now. I haven't done it yet. I don't know why. But, like, I've been wanting to, like, give my mans, like, 10 of my mans, 15 of my mans, like, pair of Air Forces on Christmas. You what saying? Like, small gesture. But, like, that shit means a lot. And it's not about the shoe. it's not about the fact that it's fucking $100 pair of Air Forces. It's just about, like...
00:26:44
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The camaraderie, the the love. The love. And yeah, I could've just gave you $100. I could've just bought you a bottle, but it's like, you always gonna need a pair of fresh. Nah, yeah. I don't know, that kind of thing. You know what I'm saying?
Uplifting Friends through Sneakers
00:26:58
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but That's definitely like, one one thing I'm, I mean, you know, i always hope to do with this as well too, is just kind of like give back as much as I can. It's like, yo, when you making stuff, obviously they send because they want you wearing it, know? They want you wearing this shit. But it's like, I'm always like, I'm always like, all right, cool.
00:27:12
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i I'm building that relationship. How do I help the people around me though? You know what i mean? yeah yeah like That's the that's the the cool part of it where can be able to really put myself in that position where I can like help everybody around me to kind of get their stuff. I mean, look, I get a lot of DMs. My people be like, yo, I haven't seen or whatever.
00:27:35
Speaker
Alright, cool. You want me to what? Send you something? I got that for you, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got those for free? Yeah, you got those? Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Kyle. Shout out to Reebok. Yeah, shout out to Reebok. Yeah, yeah. This is so funny. We did not plan this. Nah, not at all. We did not plan this. And I'm not going to lie, that's cool. When the fuck was the last time I seen two people Hit a Roo-Roo with Reeboks, bro. Shout out to Reeboks. Shout out Shout out to my BBC family. yes I didn't get it through Reebok. I got it through that. But it's still like, that's a statement. no i'm like Have you sat here before and both of y'all had on Reeboks? Nah.
00:28:12
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This is the first time. I was expecting you to have some Nikes.
Sim's Sneaker Culture Journey
00:28:15
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on I mean, look, though yesterday, i was in here yesterday, i had the lambs joints on, so, you know Cold, cold kicks, by the way. I was, literally had like two different conversations about this in the last week, because I haven't worn my pair yet.
00:28:27
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Not because I'm trying to keep them on ice, I just haven't found a moment where I'm like, nah, you got to bust those out. yeah But I was looking at them the other day Shit it Scotty, Joe Shout out my guy Shout out Lambly Y'all shit it ya did that for Y'all did that I mean especially cause it's like I'm a big graph head So I'm a big graffiti head And so like when i when I saw that post no bills I was like Yep.
00:28:51
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I'm in. I'm like, need them. The story behind it, the the storytelling they did with the the campaign for it, and then just, you know, once you really know all the details and you look at every piece of the shit, they bodied that. You feel me? That, like, I mean, i because I saw that you, well, now you're Mr. Billboard, you got you got the whole thing. But like, what what's so what's the journey be after, like, you know, you finally get into kicks and and so like, okay yeah. Yo, you know what's crazy? And don't shoot me. Like, I'm not even a big sneaker nigga. Yeah, that's all good. You feel me? Style-wise, like I feel like that's like the main thing that I fuck with. But like I wouldn't even consider myself super fashionable or like ah like a sneakerhead or none of that stuff. Because I know niggas that like they'll go way harder for
Influence of Family and Peers
00:29:38
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sneakers. They'll name certain things that start in the third.
00:29:40
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But I want to say like just going from like, I want to say like fifth grade-ish. That was like where I started going style style heavy. Yeah. You feel me? Trying to. And it really started with like hair and shit.
00:29:53
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What? Like I can get crazy talking. Yo, bro. Nah, I'm just saying like coming to school with a different hairstyle. Yo bro, so much, I don't mean to sound no crazy way, but like so much of like the things that shaped me had to either deal with like family uhhuh or like girls or like just wanting to be like fresh. You feel me? Like it's like- I'm mad Harlem, bro. When it comes to that, because that's the shit that spoke to me when I would see people with it or this, that, the third. It's like, yeah, like I want to be moneyed up. I want to be around, like you know what I'm saying? that The girl everybody likes in school, and then she says one time, like, yo, like your hair. That shit make your whole,
Evolution of Self-Expression
00:30:34
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yo, bro, that shit change my whole brain chemistry. You feel me? Now I'm no longer doing it for anything else. like Now I'm doing it to get more of that. yeah Jumping in real quick again to remind y'all, if you want to support the podcast another way besides Patreon, coppa cop a t-shirt. I got merch.
00:30:52
Speaker
It's real quick. Just $40 shipping. Just hit me up in the DMs or shoot me an email at info at myfirstkicks.com. Would love to put some of these dope shirts. You can see in this bottom bottom ah right. Bottom right. Bottom right. ah I have a little infographic right there with a little you know visual of the shirt created by former guest Chris Chaney.
00:31:17
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I got a box of these things. Please hook it up or just cop a shirt, please. All right, let's jump back into the episode. That shit made me feel good. And I feel like, you know, it's not rooted in violence. It's not rooted in all these other things. And it's like, I could talk to my, you know, feel me? Having two older sisters, like I was always cool with like women. You know what I'm saying? i i never, there's some people who don't grow up with like the matriarch side of their family. So like they might feel like everything's transactional with women. I got women that's bros that I could really be like, yo, what should I do? Like, don't know. You know what i'm saying? Or like, just have certain conversations where you figure out more about how women think of this, that, and the third. And I feel like, you know, those kinds of things early help me. So just going back to the question, it's like,
00:32:05
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Style-wise, it would start with like the hair and shit like that. like what I remember ah my sister texturized my hair one day, like S-curl, you feel me? So my hair, like I was looking Dominican in school, it's fifth grade. And like at first I was like, damn, like I didn't expect my hair to come out like that. But then after a while, I was like,
00:32:23
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it and I didn't do it again, but it was more about like, ah it was more about like looking different, like individuality, guess. You know what I'm trying to say? yeah Because now I'm not limited to just either having a fro or having braids or having a season. I got some shit nobody got. You feel me? But then it was like, okay, that just informed my style more. And then it was like, okay, sticking out isn't as bad. This made me start thinking about like,
00:32:50
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just certain things in a different way once again, you feel me? Individuality aspect. I feel like when you're a kid, there's a point where you don't want to stick out. There's a point where it's kind of dangerous to have ah a different kind of name or, you know what I'm saying? That's the whole, like I mean, especially if you're like, well, me, I come from, you know, my parents are immigrants. so right Right, me too. They teach you how to, you got to assimilate quick. Right. you know And that's the thing. And it's like, you don't want to stick out. You feel me? Like,
00:33:18
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you don't want to have a weird last first name and this, that, and the teacher says it in the first, like, those are things that stick with people forever. So I feel like when I started changing my thought process on individuality, like, oh, like I could have something no one
Influence of Diverse Environments
00:33:33
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else has. And even if mad people cut my ass, if like the thing that I want is there, it's still cool. yeah This is cool in a different way. And then you get older and like you,
00:33:43
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stop caring about that shit. Now it makes you stick out. You know what I'm saying? You get to 16 years old, the grungy kid, he don't give a fuck about, you know what I'm saying? He's going through his own teenage acts, but that's what makes that kid that kid. You know what I'm saying? And just like that whole side. So I guess I'm bringing it up to say like kicks and like certain style things. that Like all that shit started influencing my individuality. And I feel like that was probably the biggest thing that helped me because I didn't care about being like everybody else. You know what I'm saying? And then from there, it's like, all right, cool.
00:34:17
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how do I stick out still being a Harlem nigga though? I ain't want to not be a Harlem nigga, but it's like, you feel me? I wear these, i'll wear these bacons, but I'm wearing it with some shit that people in Harlem not wearing it with while I'm doing, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got, I mean, that, that's the one thing I i learned quick because I went to school downtown, I went to school to Washington Irving. Okay, okay. I went to MLK. You went to MLK? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You made it through that? Yeah, facts. Facts. Facts, I made it through that. I mean, I went to, you know, they closed it for a while, but some kid got stabbed, and when they reopened it, it was six different schools, but. Yeah. Yeah, I mean. magnet schools. Yeah. They started, because my school, went to Washington Irving converted into a magnet school. got a bunch schools in it now. But that was like, when I was there, was different houses.
Understanding Diverse Perspectives
00:35:02
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I said this thing. I broke it down to somebody yesterday and they were like, it was like, you went to school Hogwarts? I was like, nah, it's not like that. Nah, real shit though. Yeah. And then, so like, you know, it was different people. You'd go, you have the art house, you have the science house, different people. So you'd see different realms of people from around. They'd be from everywhere. And you'd see the different influences all around. But then, if we flash forward now, it's a lot harder to see that individuality. So now we're back if you stick up like a sore thumb, why aren't you doing it this way? why aren't you doing this way? And I think like,
00:35:44
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that's like my biggest thing is like, I don't need to agree with everybody. okay i just want have I just want to have conversation. like Let me hear your perspective because maybe you're talking about something that I haven't. You've been through something I haven't been through.
Authenticity in Fashion Trends
00:35:56
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you know Perspective. Once again, perspective is mad undervalued because i might not fuck with your style at all, but we have a conversation about and you tell me why you copped this or like what this means to you. are i might You might got on some fucking weirdo. like Not weirdo, but like you might got on some like indigenous looking joint. yeah I'm like, that shit's kind of corny. I have a conversation with you, find out you Native American, you Peruvian, and this, and the third, and this means to your bloodline. All of a sudden, the way I thought about your fly before is changed. yeah And I feel like- Now you have context. Perspective, yeah context, shit like that. It's like, I feel like when niggas start thinking like that, it's like that's how you carve your own lane, that's how you be yourself. And individuality is not just like, I feel like now, okay, there was like the V-Files era where like niggas was, there was certain people who was dressing weird and they would be in a weird crowd and it's like, you think all weird is created equal, like I prefer the V-Files era
00:36:51
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Like when when they when those weirdos were standing there u on that block, because worked at BBC for Mad Long, oh yeah right across the street, yeah you feel me? So I used to stand in the front and see them all the time. And it's like the weirdos now,
00:37:03
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They not even real weird. they It's like fake weird. Like I'm just doing this to stand out. Like I'm just wearing this shit just cause I don't want to look like this person. But you end up looking like, um ah like it's like the same type of weird. I don't know explain it versus like the V-Files niggas. It's like, yo, you're dead ass weird. Like this dead ass your swag and I can respect it because that's you. yeah You know what I'm saying? Not to say, it's like, I don't want to be on no hierarchy type of time. It's just, it's cool. to like think about all of these things and the reason somebody is individual, you know i mean ah has individualism, the reason a person will do something um you know and it be tied to other things. Once again, context, shit like that.
00:37:47
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I worked at BBC for mad years. So me wearing BBC and somebody else wearing BBC, like once again, you would have to talk to me to figure it out. right It's never the same. and um I got pieces in the crib that like Pharrell might have never seen. like right You know what I'm saying? Or like if you just got on BBC, you would not know anything
Sim's Retail Journey to Billionaire Boys Club
00:38:05
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about. yeah you know sorry How'd you end up at BBC? ah You know, it's crazy. So I worked in Soho mad long.
00:38:12
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um Like where? I worked at Urban Outfitters. Okay. on on ah when it used to be? ah The one on Broadway. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. like right I guess that's technically no, because it's right above. yeah But um i worked that I worked at, there was this old girl store called Brandy Melville. I worked there for a while. Obviously, I worked there. yeah Yeah, yeah. It was on Spring Street. They moved me around because I became a store manager. They had me in LA, and they had me in Boston. And then I left that shit because I was like, that's not it for me. I started working at DQM.
00:38:45
Speaker
And then they opened up. Oh, DQM Vans. Yes. Okay. Hurt my heart. you held almost You almost got me, bro. We could talk DQM. I used to be in DQM all the time. Yo. You feel me? Shout out Dave, bro. Episode 100. Episode 100, baby. You feel me? like DQM, I still got like their mainstay crew neck sweater with their logo on it. like I remember that one of the first times I went to
Networking through Retail Jobs
00:39:12
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Soho in high school, like they had some crazy back to school two for $80 SB sales. And i went stupid. I was cleaning up in there too. You feel me? It's certain shit like that. And that's a whole that's a whole specific era of Soho on its own as well. i would You have to come back.
00:39:28
Speaker
You feel me? Like I don't even want to get into that because that's a whole nother joint too. um But we I was- I was going to say, because i used to do the loop. i don't know if you did the loop though. it was DQM, North, Comeback. used to do the whole, you feel me? Yeah. Like it's like, oh, Bro, that was the time. And it's like, anyway, I don't even want to get sidetracked. I started working at on um the Vans DQM spot.
00:39:52
Speaker
And then I was the so ah the store manager there. And I remember a nigga came in. I was like, I was like um i don't know. i like That store was very slow. So I'd just be standing outside all the time. And I remember dude came in, 21 Mercer was around the corner. He was like, yo, go in there and get these kicks. He dead paid everybody in the store to go into 21 Mercer. They wasn't giving him more than one pair.
00:40:17
Speaker
I forget what pair it was, but he was like, yo, go in there get these kicks. I'll give you $100 on top, plus the retail cost. And I remember that just like, What? Because I did it, and then I went back and did it again, and went back and did it again. Mind you, i work around a corner, so it's like, it's nothing. I'm to be here until fucking 8, regardless. yeah And i already knew one of the niggas.
00:40:38
Speaker
It just became a thing where i started thinking about network. I started thinking about certain things. So then, this is this might have been 2015.
00:40:47
Speaker
Then I start going, you feel me? I never really fucked with Supreme, but this is around the time that reselling is starting to go crazy. yeah And I'm like like, I'm not trying to wait in this line, but I know one of the security guards
Retail as a Creative Platform
00:40:58
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there. So I'm able to start popping up 8 a.m., 9 a.m., 10 a.m.
00:41:04
Speaker
And don't got to do no line, nothing. He just throw me in. And that's when I'm just like, okay, there's a value in this shit. Yeah, bro. Leave DQM. Uh-huh. There's a whole year in between this. is when I start my creative journey, but I'm also reseller heavy because that shit is shooting blah, blah, bla blah. Yeah. Anyway, there comes to a point where I need a job again because I fucked up my money doing some whole other shit. Uh-oh. Regular NYC shit. Yeah. Sometimes you got to take the one risk you're doing and take the chicken in and yeah do another risk. yeah You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh.
00:41:34
Speaker
Fucked it up. I had to get a new job. And I'm like, I don't got time for Indeed and fucking LinkedIn and none of that shit. I mean, I feed on Lynn, I gotta get some shit to pay. I'm paying rent, you feel me? So I went in into DQM and I just ended up having a whole hour long conversation with my bro, Jules. Shout out to Jules, shout out to Damien. They was the manager and assistant manager at the time. And mind you, I had i had been the manager for the last two jobs that I had, but I'm telling them, yo, I don't want to be a manager. I want minimum wage, all that. Because- Oh yeah, you just want to be like a regular- Because if now I'm on my creative journey. I had in between this year that I didn't have a job and I was like reselling and shit like that, I was like selling weed, all types of stuff, right? I started working on my first zine. That was how I got my, like that was how expressed myself creatively for the first time. So at this time I'm like, yo, if I need to call out on a random Tuesday, i want to be able to call out. When you're a manager, you can't do You know what I'm saying? You are the coverer. I'll take way less money, less hours, all of that. But like it's also going to force me when I have free time to really utilize that shit because I'm not going to be comfortable. I'm still not making that much money, this, that, and the third. so
00:42:48
Speaker
But yeah, with BBC, they took me in and was working there. And once again, I've always been someone who like I think about more than just the job that I'm at. like I never work food, but like like if I work at Starbucks, I'm coming home every night with whatever they got left over. yeah like I'm utilizing any job, especially if I'm not getting paid well, yeah for the benefit. Right, yeah, yeah. feel me? When I was working at Urban, I'm coming home with clothes. Whether I ain't, whether took it or whether I, you feel me, bought it. Like, just certain things like that. So, BBC was one of those things where I'm like, yo, the network here specific. yeah It's not just random people coming in. yeah Most people that, you know, there's a lot of tourists and shit like that, but you'll get very specific people who, like, will remember your face, who want to lock in with you, this, time that, and the third. A lot of them are creatives themselves. Mm-hmm.
00:43:39
Speaker
So that, it was just more of like, all right, cool. I'm not making that much here, but I'm going to capitalize on this. yeah And it goes to you know me modeling for the brand, this, that, and just doing
Cultural Exchange in Retail Jobs
00:43:53
Speaker
all types of stuff. And I ended up leaving in 2021.
00:43:57
Speaker
And I left a few times in between there, but you know that's family. They took me back every time. I never left on like no bad terms. It was just like, yo, I want to go do my own thing for a little bit. yeah and i mean there I feel like that's it understandable. You feel me? It's retail. It's not like... is But you know i don't even want to get into it. We could get into that later. But one thing I do want to say, because it's on my mind, like shout out to like BBC, Bape, those kinds of stores that like ah I don't know if they like that anymore. I'm not at that age or nothing like that. But I remember being a teenager or being early 20s and thinking about working at those stores yeah and knowing you know how impactful it is. Or even thinking about like a Kid Cudi type story where it's like,
00:44:36
Speaker
You was working there at some point and then you end up collaborating with them or this, that, and that third. like Creative wise, especially being young, running around New York City, those are things that like you have in your mind is like, that's cool. yeah You know what I'm saying? It's basically like, I mean, how to make it in America. You feel me? And just across the board bro, shout out to retail jobs in general. Niggas be shitting on retail jobs. like You know how so people will say like um like one thing for native New Yorkers like you had to have gone to school here because it puts you through the ranks. You fucking 10 years old, I'm a train and shit like You know I'm saying? 8 AM, you gotta ignore your first person smoking crack and shooting up in the corner and you're 10 like, God damn. I was just talking about this i was ah recently. I was like, because I wanted to write it out like a joke. yeah Where was just like, you know you from New York or like, you know you've been in New York long enough when the one guy in the train is talking about how you can fight everybody in the train, but nobody pays them any mind. You feel me? It's like, granted, you could go through that at 30 something, 40 something if you just came to this country, but I feel like people bring up the whole going as elementary or middle school here because this's it's thatass a writer it's a certain rite of passage. for sure And then after that, you get to school, you might got to do, they might got metal detectors or some shit. Then you get upstairs and now you in a sea of multicultural kids and you getting put on the shit that you never thought about. and older niggas is picking on you. It's it's like a whole thing. yeah You know what i'm saying? But I feel like another version of that is working retail in New York City. I feel like niggas don't give that shit enough credit. You learn a lot. There's a lot of cultural like ah exchange happening.
00:46:19
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? You get to see just, once again, just different walks of life. You get to deal with dead being broke as shit, having to just think about your survival because whatever job you're doing is not paying enough. Rob Markman- You're like, I'm a hop the train. This month. you've Just so I can eat. You feel me? It's also just a cycle
Strategic Retail Opportunities
00:46:39
Speaker
of life. You be sitting there on the shift thinking about your life for real. You looking at son, this nigga 50 still working here. God damn, I could never be this nigga. But then you looking at bro, he might adjust. This might be his first job you're like, yo bro, you talented bro. Put your energy into this. There's a certain aspect of all that that just comes back down to the New York spirit of like,
00:47:00
Speaker
I don't know how to fuck I'm going to make it, but I got a take for me. We're going to figure it out. I mean, you're right. like I do think, because I don't shit on retail. I just said, there's a moment. you have to You have to realize that there is a moment where somebody just goes, all right, I'm done with this. like I can't do this anymore. right And so, but you have to do, like I worked retail, so oh like set six years, like six years until I figured out how to get into corporate from my retail It's a stepping stone. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And so if you don't, like, but that's what i'm saying. Like if you're not thinking about it beyond where you're sitting in there right now, if you're just looking at it like it's just a check. then it's just gonna be a check. It's more New York shit too though. Also working in retail, like I don't think anybody identifies with like, yo, this is my life.
00:47:47
Speaker
It's always just a stepping stone. no yeah But you gotta know, if you don't got no game plan and you working at a retail spot, you'll fuck around and end up there six years. yeah But if this is just like, yo, gotta get my little bit chicken here, do this, do this until I figure out this other step.
00:48:01
Speaker
Or just like meeting other people, find out the person's a creative, find out the person's a a model, find out the person makes music, this, that, and a third. and then it's like You know, food, retail in the city, these things that'll keep you humble, but also don't limit you to just like, okay, this is the job I have. I'm trying to rank up. Like most people that work retail, they're not trying to rank up, bro. This shit is just means to get to this next place. yeah And I feel like even being there in whatever capacity you are, and talking to other people and figuring out, yeah, I've been here for a year, but like I'm only doing this till this. yeah All of that shit is very inspirational and very... You know what I'm saying? like It's a part of that New York energy that will really put you put you in the mindset of like, damn, like this is not my end this is not the end all be all, but like shit, I got to utilize what I can to make this shit the next level.
Adaptability and Entrepreneurial Thinking
00:48:54
Speaker
And this just goes back into the BBC shit that I was talking about where it's like, I made sure i kept a great relationship with everybody that's there. um
00:49:03
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ah Once again, I stopped working there in 2021, but like I've gone to this is gonna be my, this year's gonna be like my sixth complex con with them. yeah You know what I'm saying? Like, gangster. You feel me? But like even, yeah, like just the first complex con I went to them was 2018. Oh, okay. ah Chicago?
00:49:23
Speaker
Nah, it was, it was, it was LA before they moved it to Vegas. oh Long Beach, actually. Long Beach. It was Long Beach. And um like, I don't know. like I guess I'm also saying something about how- I mean, you're you're talking about the relationship that like you- The relationship aspect, but you got to be someone that recognizes it. Because there's mad niggas that was in the same position as me and do shit with it. yeah And I don't mean that to say anything. I'm just saying that like some people might not value those things because they don't have a game plan of what they could do with that or- how that's valuable. But i also think that's just like, if they don't have a drive, like, if they don't see that. That aligns. You know what I'm saying? it's like like Like I'm knowing where I'm trying to go with shit, so I'm already thinking about like, right, cool. But yeah the reason I bring that up is to say, if you're in a situation where you're just getting this bare minimum thing,
00:50:15
Speaker
you should be thinking about the other things you can get. Everything is not just about the money. Some people only take a job based on the money that they can get. But it's like, where are you trying to go? yeah Okay, what world are you trying to build? What other players do you need in that world? It's not just... Because you can fucking make $50 an hour and that shit takes up all your time and you don't ever make... me miserable.
00:50:35
Speaker
Be miserable. Never get home and do anything with your own shit. And then before you know it, you done made somebody else millions for 20 years and retired. And that's cool if that's what you cool with. Because some people also want stability. They just want to know they can pay their rent. But it's like...
00:50:50
Speaker
I know, but I think that's like that's the hardest part about being a creative, though. It is. Because, I mean, I'm in this i'm in the same with you, right? We're We created you. Bro, like, you built this. yeah You know what I'm saying? But like, I mean, look it comes out of just because my job, so my my day job is mundane. So I'm like, yo, I'm not itching. i'm I have a creative itch. I'm not itching it. be creative. itching it with the day, right? Right, right, right. But you know, some people, the money or the comfortability or whatever it might be, the day to day, the survival will make them not pour into that side of it.
00:51:21
Speaker
And it's like, yo, if you approached like that you feel optimism when you're 17 and you feel like you could do anything, or you feel like, I don't know what I want to do, but I know when I figure it out, I'm a go up.
00:51:32
Speaker
I feel like if certain people approach certain jobs like that, It'll go way crazier. But this is also why new jobs, like Jobs is coming up with like, not coming up with, but like the creative director role is more of a thing. It's, I mean, to me it's like, you know what I'm saying? I don't mean it in a bad way. I'm just saying that like, Jobs that never had someone that was directly supposed to be a creative director now have that position where they realize like, oh, you do need this thought process behind shit.
Creative Needs Beyond Traditional Jobs
00:52:03
Speaker
But i also but i also think it's just like, especially even the word creative director, because like, I do think a lot of people who, like there are terms like content creator, creative director, he's and they're all entrepreneurs. Yeah, they're all entrepreneurs, bro. Like, you know, they're just being like, we need you to do everything. you're being like, all right. There's literally, there's a brand, there's a brand out there that has a creative director role. And it's like,
00:52:28
Speaker
Yes, we want you to tap in with the youth and do activations and do certain things that's like more geared towards where we at now with society, right? And then there's definitely a brand out there that's like, yo, we hiring as creative director. We pretty much want to pay you a little bit to do five different roles and how you be cool with it. And it's like, that's a whole nother thing too. Rob Markman, Yeah. Markman, You know what saying? Rob Markman, It's just, mean, we- Rob Markman, Shit changing. I guess the point I'm trying to make is like, I just, feel like niggas got to start analyzing what's going on, how shit is changing, analyzing where you want to be. Because once again, you even saying like, yeah, I got the day job, but it's not fulfilling the creative itch. Some people don't even think like that. You know I'm saying? Some people don't, won't recognize that
00:53:14
Speaker
They just know that the the creative rich is not being scratched, but they won't like try to channel it into something that does this for them. yeah You know what I'm trying to say? um And I mean, like that's you got to find the motivation to do that, right? And your job is not there to tell you that. And it was funny because like it's it's funny because like what people don't Or like what how was but how I was brought up was like, you're not supposed to talk about the stuff you do after work at you at your job. like You're not supposed to talk about that. Bro, the soonest I started talking about what i with the podcast and stuff like that, that's all they talked to me about at work, bro. And it's just like...
Balancing Work and Creativity
00:53:52
Speaker
Like, I'll be like, I'll be trying to figure out like, oh, should I like, because then you start pushing and be like, or you start like creating like two different worlds inside your head of like, yo, should I really be like, should I be pushing this more? Should I be like, why am I still here? And then you start, you know? Like, yeah, I mean, i fucking think that's beautiful though, bro. Especially in a place where like,
00:54:13
Speaker
if if the job If the job, you know what I'm saying, it's a cell, you just a random little organism in it. You bringing what you do outside of work into the job and now people talking to you about it, it's like you're a nucleus of your own cell inside that cell. That make any sense, you know what say?
00:54:31
Speaker
It's like, I guess, like I love that you brought up that point because I feel like it's related to what I'm saying. like The entire time I worked at BBC, and I was different from the other jobs I had, I knew what I was trying to do.
00:54:44
Speaker
So it was like I was a nucleus in that cell. And I just made sure that, like, I brought everything that came around to me, whether, you know what I'm saying, little petty checks, connection, sneaker drop, this, that. I'm making sure that I utilized it to my advantage. Not in a way where it, like, did anything negative towards anybody else. Right, yeah. I got an agenda. I got some shit that I'm excited to run home to.
00:55:09
Speaker
I'm not excited to go to work. Nobody is. But you feel me? When I go home, I'm trying to do this, this, that, and the third. um And I'll even give you an example. I made i told you like the first thing I did was ah made it I made a zine while I worked at BBC.
Retail Jobs for Self-Promotion
00:55:25
Speaker
I started in 2016. So I literally worked at the old store for like a couple months. Yeah. But in 2018, they hadn't brought back ice cream yet. This is the time where it was just BBC, the running dog, they wasn't using it at all. And I was like, I made an ice cream zine.
00:55:44
Speaker
You have just like archive stuff, but I redid a couple of shoots. I put some information in it, ah, ah. And the store manager let me, even though it wasn't an official BBC product, after I printed it, he let me sell it at the register. That's fire. You know what I'm trying to say? It's those kinds of things that's like, if I didn't put myself in a position to see what this world lacked,
00:56:05
Speaker
and something I cared about and then do this blah blah blah blah. And that was the first time I got like international customers like I like watching the Japanese nigga walk in that only knows about BBC. He's copping the zine. I don't know whether he thinks it's a part of you know what I'm saying? but it's still a part of the universe. Right. Yeah. And that's like Once I started shifting them kinds of gears where it's like, oh shit. That's gotta be a bad, like a crazy battery. Yo bro, it's different because then it's like, damn, I've been playing this game a little, not wrong, but just like, you could really play anything that you want to into your, what's it called? Like guys or or you like, you know, you can start building it around you. Start, yeah bro. I feel like all of these things is just, it's shit that like, as time is changing and you know, these roles is coming out. Yeah.
00:56:51
Speaker
Oh, new this and new that and these trends that's here today go tomorrow and all this other stuff. Like we don't have books on this entrepreneurship shit. Nah, we don't. Not the way it looks now. You know what I'm saying? These connections that we built. You just got Shark Tank, bro. You just watch Shark Tank. You film me? You might got to just watch mad podcasts.
00:57:09
Speaker
to know how to operate this shit the best. There isn't a like a brochure yet. There isn't like a fucking blueprint yet. And it's like, as we go in these types of, um in this way where ah you know those things don't exist, we build our own, paying attention to all of those things that where it's like, damn, this is a huge battery in my back or damn, don't know if anybody ever did this before or mixed these two things.
00:57:33
Speaker
I feel like just paying attention to that shit is very important because that, him letting allowing me to sell that in the store, that is a regular ass job, that I'm seeing people start working there and quit two weeks later, yeah all of this other shit, that shit made me feel different than just like a so ah floor sales associate, whatever the fuck. Right, yeah, because now you're actually, like, there's people dreaming to be able to sell anything in my store.
00:58:00
Speaker
I fake forged my way yeah into it. like It's not even like, you know what I'm saying? They never took that as an official, what's it called? But it's like, shit, I'm still getting the same experience. oh yeah And I still, when I put it out on Instagram, I told everybody, come to BBC to cop it. And people were, you know, going on Instagrams and putting like, yo, I just copped Sims ice cream zine and blah, blah, blah. And it still gave me the same energy of it.
00:58:21
Speaker
But... Yeah, I don't know, like that that that type of like discovering self, discovering your own journey, yeah trying to figure out the ways in which you fit in the puzzle, that shit is like, it's a newer thing for me.
00:58:37
Speaker
is it? Like, in the way in which I'm handling it now, yeah. Because I've always thought about what I wanted to do and like the way I stick out. I feel like that was what I was talking about with the individualism.
00:58:48
Speaker
But I feel like that's what has crafted who Sim is. Like, from going back to the first thing with the sneakers and then with the hair and certain things, it's like, Figuring out how you can, how get the the role that you're playing plays a bigger role in everything going on instead of feeling like I got to do the job because I got to make money. got to do this to fulfill this role, bla blah, blah, blah.
00:59:13
Speaker
I feel like it just makes everything, it gives it a certain perspective. You know what I'm saying? I made a video about how traveling gives you, it takes you out of your social, what is it? Social roles?
00:59:27
Speaker
Like, You travel for the first time, or some people travel for the first time out the country, and it's the first time they think about their time and the energy difference. First time they think about themselves past the things that they have, you know what I'm saying? i do think they yeah The routine. The routine of like, especially in the city, you're like, you know, we we do take advantage of like, yo, we're able to do as much as we can, but then we're when you go to some place that you're not able to do it, or it takes two hours to get to the next poppin' thing, right? right you You change the perspective of like oh how much accessibility we really have, or how much people are around you. right Or just like, yo, bro, your is really a real thing. yeah You fucking work all year to get a week off and then go somewhere for a week off, and then you have your time, you're like, yo, bro.
01:00:15
Speaker
Like I know for a fact, or at least I think, everybody's thought process at some point is like, yo, how do I make more out of my time? Yeah. You know? I mean, look, I think, you know, the the biggest eye opener is always when somebody passes.
01:00:30
Speaker
Right? as soon as That's like some whole other shit, but facts though. Yeah. When the bad shit happens, that's when niggas sit here and start thinking. You be like, damn, I worked five years without a vacation. okay And you're like you're like, what am I doing?
Financial Constraints and Life Decisions
01:00:43
Speaker
Why do why is it like that?
01:00:44
Speaker
why do Why does bad shit have to have have to happen for for like people to start thinking about stuff? Even though they've known the entire time that they should be on that. Why is that the biggest motivator? And when people know that, why do they still even subscribe to that? I think's is i think it's just money. Money. Money money is is this thing that holds us, caresses us, and is our is always going to be the fuel, the coal to get us going. and But the thing is, it also traps us because if you don't have money, how can you have a vacation? If you don't have money, you don't if all your bill is not paid, how can you enjoy a vacation? right like
01:01:22
Speaker
We live in a city where now with the mayor and stuff like that, obviously the prices are going down, but we still live in a world where inflation, we still live in world where like,
01:01:32
Speaker
We don't, you know, some people barely make minimum wage and or, you know, we have a ton of people that that are being getting paid under the table and not being able to, you know, living with 30 people in the crib. Facts, no insurance, no money. So when somebody passes, we look at that we're like,
01:01:48
Speaker
We're like, how do we change this? The thing is, it needs and need you need money in order to change the thing. And in order to do that, you need to spend more time making money. So
Time, Money, and Relationships
01:01:58
Speaker
the only thing is just like, how to- Money is very related to our time. Yeah. And yeah. But I think it's just like,
01:02:06
Speaker
Cause like, yes, when somebody passes, it's like, damn, I should be doing more of my time. That'd be the one, bro. That'd be the one that really made niggas think. like And especially when it's like a family member.
01:02:17
Speaker
yeah And it's like a family member you spent years with. and then you you turn back and you're like i didn't get to see them as much as i thought like or you're like you're like yo i haven't seen my aunt 10 years and why i mean you're like why start asking why didn't make the time yeah do this or but no but because it's like i don't have the money to go well sometimes all right yo bro but okay what if your art live across town Well, that's different, but I'm talking about like, you know, situations. Right, right, right, right, yeah, of course, you know of course, of course, of course. You so it's just like, you gotta weigh all in. Nah, it is. It's all tied together. The money, the time, the energy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? All that i shit is tied together. Yeah, because especially when it's like, oh, yo, I want to go see, you know, Like it's same with friends, bro. I have people haven't seen once a year maybe, you know? Like my birthday's coming up, so I'm hitting up everybody and i I'm hitting people i haven't spoken to since my last birthday. And i'll be like and I'm like, damn, that's fucked up. Like, you know? like and then I just question myself. Like damn, I'm a bad friend. Like, you know, I'm not checking in when I should be checking in, you know, every month or something like that. and it's like
Therapy and Self-Reflection
01:03:23
Speaker
yeah because i'm busy trying to make shit happen like there are people that you know they have the luxury of like you know they don't got to worry about the meal they don't got to worry about the food they don't worry about where they live they just worry about all the time that oh you know what time they need to to spend to in order to just you know fulfill their obligations stuff like that you know and even they can feel like they don't live a fulfilling life but At the end of the day, it's like they have the luxury to, you know, change that situation while other people are hamstringed and and back and like buckled down and be like, damn, I got to spend four hours on a train to come down to work, work for eight hours, go back up. And then I got to deal with my family in the house and then also make sure to check. You know, it's like there's too much going on. man Now, you're right.
01:04:06
Speaker
So yeah, it does take somebody. it does take it does take for somebody to pass for you to be like, damn, I gotta slow down. That shit, like, I don't know niggas that and didn't know exactly what they need to do to blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, that'd be the biggest...
01:04:20
Speaker
thing that actually tells niggas about they self, but it's like, is it telling you about yourself? Or you been doing it and you like, it finally screamed at you. You were just ignoring the voice for a while. yeah And it finally just screamed at you to the point that you can't ignore it.
01:04:36
Speaker
And I mean, it is what it is. It's just, I'd be wishing that we could get away from like bad shit happening to be the catalyst for people to change because- I mean, but we need to we need to employ therapy within our communities.
01:04:48
Speaker
So that's a whole other difference. That's a you know lasts a whole other one. Real shit. Real shit. We got to be more therapy positive. Why you hate yourself? Like, why are you self-sabotaging? Nah, real shit, bro. Because I'm not
Self-Dialogue and Journaling
01:05:02
Speaker
going to lie, bro.
01:05:03
Speaker
Yeah, bro, bro. It's like, nigga, I remember being mad young and like, yo, I got the fire in me. I just don't know what I'm gonna do. But when I figure that shit out, yeah I'm going crazy. And then I remember the time when I finally figured out what I wanted to do. And like, I was like, I wasn't going as crazy as I was gonna go. And I'm like, yo, why am I doing? I was like, I guess I'm scared. yeah There's a whole unknown aspect that I don't know. And like, what if i I'm not good at it? Or what if this? Or what if that? But it's like,
01:05:31
Speaker
I'll tell you this much, like I never been afraid to have those combos with myself. That's you thing that's the thing. Nobody talks to themselves, bro. Niggas don't talk to theyself. I talk to myself all the time. You my dog, bro. Because I literally made a video about this yesterday. I said, yo, bro, I don't care how niggas feel. Keep a fucking journal, yo. If you a man, keep a journal, bro. Talk to yourself. I got to make time to talk to the realest nigga.
01:05:53
Speaker
Every day. You hear me? And there's a lot of days that i don't, I don't get to and I feel crazy because then I start having thoughts and I don't know how I feel. I don't know which way I want to go about stuff. But it's like, if you have family and have friends that you could talk to, this, that, and the third, for sure. But I know that everybody has stuff that they don't want to talk to nobody about. Yeah.
01:06:13
Speaker
And it's like, at least my nigga talk to yourself. Yeah.
Advice to Younger Selves
01:06:17
Speaker
Speaking of talking to yourself We're towards the end of the podcast Oh yeah yeah So I got one last question me There's a little visualization Once you think back To young Sim He about to get them baked Nah he's about to get that phone positive He about to get the phone positive Right So Now you're older you Yeah Behind your younger self What would you tell your younger self As he You know gets gifted Or gets gets to borrow Gets to borrow Gets to borrow For the field trip Yeah Um don't fucking What I would tell him, like... I mean, already knew when I bawled them shits, I felt crazy. So I knew I wasn't going to bawl them shits again.
01:06:57
Speaker
But you know, and I knew that was one of my best friends, he's still one of my best friends to this day. But like, did I know why that shit meant so much to me? Nah, I didn't know like how I felt about family at that time and like that kind of love, unconditional love especially. yeah You feel me?
01:07:14
Speaker
um I guess I would just tell myself something about like unconditional love, like yo, He loves you for real, no like no matter what you could provide or what you, you know i'm saying? If it's his, it's yours.
01:07:26
Speaker
Like that type of energy, That's some shit. That's beautiful, bro. Let everybody know where to find you, man. Come on, man. Sim from the Hill. Sim from the Hill. My bad in the beginning. Sim from the Hill. from the Hill. Yeah, man. I think I'm Sim from the Hill on pretty much anything. I think I'm Sim from St. Nick on Twitter, but on everything else, I'm Sim from the don't be using it well. Yeah, I don't. I'm be using Twitter much like that.
01:07:51
Speaker
um But yeah, man. Yo, shout out to you, bro. Talk about the brand. yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, Oh, went to your hood, man. missed the- Nobody knew you. You me? Went to your hood and nobody knew you. That's the brand. I am not trying to make, like, I am not trying to be Mr. Cool Design or this, that, and the third. My shit is about, like, if you know, you know. You know what I'm saying? You understand what that means. Everybody comes from somewhere. Everybody loves where from.
01:08:16
Speaker
And we in a city, from a city that everyone loves to claim. Yeah. So, you feel me? Went to your hood, nobody know you. If you go to Sugar Hill, depending on the type of stuff that you're involved in, niggas will know me. yeah You know what I'm saying? And yeah, man.
01:08:33
Speaker
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Promoting Identity and Authenticity
01:08:34
Speaker
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01:08:50
Speaker
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01:09:10
Speaker
Peace. Thank you for listening to this week's episode of MyFirstKicks with Sim from the Hill. Yo, this episode was so fire. I felt super amped after recording this episode. Like, it was super insightful. And, you know, my conversation last week with AD was extremely insightful as well from a creative perspective. And this one's more of a little bit of both of just the process of, you know, getting yourself to do the things that you really want to do um You know, a lot of people...
01:09:47
Speaker
Don't figure it out immediately. A lot of people definitely tend to, you know, sit on their laurels in terms of just not like more on their circumstances. Like everybody feels and has been in a situation where they feel like their circumstances are not letting them do the things that they want to do. And ah I, I, I,
01:10:08
Speaker
I struggle with that as well. And we talk about that living within you know our means and living within the city. ah you know we're I always felt like we were... When you're born here, you're you're kind of like pigeonholed into making enough to survive within the city. And so
Balancing Creativity and Career
01:10:26
Speaker
you know, when you see people create success out of, you know, their means is just not being what we are, you know, hoping that they could be or something similar to just like we just see somebody just blow up out of the projects, something like that. Like it's it gives us hope, but it also makes us look within ourselves of just like, oh, maybe I'm not doing as much as I should be doing. And so
01:10:53
Speaker
A lot of what Sims ah content does is just give you a different perspective outside of just this negative thing of just like, oh, ah I suck. I shouldn't be doing this. Like his outlook is very similar to mine where it's like i thought I was on a specific path that path that was like, you know, go to school, do your thing, um you know, then get a good job. And then, you know, you'll become the president and such and such. But when you start moving up within corporate America or when you finally get a job within corporate corporate America, it really puts you at a fork in the road of like, maybe this is not for me or maybe this is for me. And so far,
01:11:38
Speaker
I've been able to juggle both, right? I've been able to, you know, scratch my creative itch. If you listen to the first episode of this podcast, I talk about my creative itch and how the podcast came to be because of that. But When we talk about just the idea of pursuing a career and pursuing your creative endeavors, it I've always tried figure out how to do both, right? um When you pursue things at a later date or a later age, you know you have to put a roof over your head, can't really like sit in your room and and hope you know your parents pay your bills for as long as they can. like
01:12:17
Speaker
That's not going to create the hunger that some people, I think, need in order to be creative. And so what Sims content is, is more of just believing in yourself, like like putting things in perspective. And I and i had to have them on the podcast. Like after watching like so his like seven videos consecutively, because I remember being in that mindset of like the top, the total opposite mindset of like, man, I'm not really doing anything. Like I'm not, you know,
01:12:51
Speaker
reaching my potential per per se um and for a really long time i i was like down on myself and i thought like hey you know maybe i am the biggest failure within my my friend group at the time um you know just i'm super down on myself and you know i would find ways to kind of disappear, right? I would play video games and get really good at video games, but like never really pursue video games. And then I finally try to pursue video games, but then you're like, it's too late for that. So I, I was like trying things in order to get out this rut of self doubt. And what I love is what I, what I love about Sims content and videos is i wish I had that voice talking to me earlier in, in, uh, in my like college years, because
01:13:46
Speaker
There was a moment of time where you know i pursued graphic arts really heavy, and I thought that was going to be the thing. And and i thought that like I had what it takes to really like make you know ah album covers for musicians, ah posters from movies, or video games, cover art. like I thought that was going to be my path, and and i try to like hone really hard into just learning everything I could about graphic design. And so that's why you see a lot of my stuff. Like I'm always trying to, ah you know, push on the graphics or or incorporate a lot of my what I've learned over the years into this podcast. And that's how I scratch my creative itch.
01:14:32
Speaker
But I really wished that like I did have somebody that was telling me, like, yo, you know you and your mans, like you could figure out you know a way to work together and get money together in a creative capacity ah just off y'all's ideas. and and I think like simple motivational conversations that we don't hear in every day is something that we need more of because we currently live in this content landscape where it shows everybody
01:15:07
Speaker
how easy something should be. um But it's not as conducive as I thought it should be. I think a lot of people are taking more easy way out into just I'm a content creator and I'm big against that. But They're not building the community around them that will actually push their content. like And I'm not talking about pushing it to other people.
01:15:36
Speaker
Pushing it to be better. you know When I first started this, and I talk about this a lot, like... My one of the biggest things I was always trying to build was a network of people I can bounce my ideas off of. And I think that it is extremely, extremely crucial in order for you to become a better whatever. Like that can be within your job, your work landscape or, you know, anything that.
01:16:11
Speaker
you think you want to ah pursue as a career, having people that you can kind of, not kind of, that they having people that you can talk to within, like, just an opinion matter of just like, hey, I need a different perspective of what I'm doing, right? And so I was always building that around me. When I was in college, I had people who were photographers I still talk to now this day. Shout out to my boy Joel. And, and said, like, he was always pushing me to try new things and, and check out new music and look at this art or go to this thing. And, and you need people around you that will, will get you out your comfort zone in order for you to creatively try different things. And,
01:17:01
Speaker
What social media has done is kind of taking people back from experiencing and going to try things by making it very accessible and you could make it feel like, yeah, I've had that conversation, but you did it. You didn't. You need somebody that you can really like tap in with. And so.
01:17:22
Speaker
What Sims content does is really give you that like push to find these things, to find these moments of like, hey, I should probably talk to this person that's been trying to get in contact with me because they like the thing I did.
01:17:36
Speaker
and I think that's crucial. I think these are these these are probably things that you don't hear about relatively often because a lot of people...
01:17:48
Speaker
tend to stick to themselves, especially in a creative capacity or especially in in a career. And i don't think that's fair. um I'm big. I don't think that's fair in terms of just like I want to see a change. And so, ah you know, there's mentorships. Please look out for that or programs that, you know, when you partake with a but in a class, like you have to treat it as that. Like there are people that are in different you know walks of life that have a piece of or a nugget that you can pull off of and it'll, you know, better or change your path. And
Incorporating Creativity in Careers
01:18:22
Speaker
these things are crucial. These things, these life lessons, these learned experiences are very crucial in order for you to better yourself and in order for you to feel, to feel the motivation you need in order
01:18:36
Speaker
to pursue what you may think you need to pursue. And that may all sound vague because I'm trying to streamline and streamline it ah streamline it into dipping into career and creativity because you know this is not just a creative podcast. This is also a career podcast as well because as we talk to people, who have careers within the the sneaker industry, within the music industry, anybody that I'm super intrigued by um and hearing about their path into where they are now. um
01:19:09
Speaker
these are things that I've learned along the way. And so I implore you to check out any other previous episode because I do tap into, you know, what gets people going, what gets people curious. And I think curiosity is something that is learned and also you are born with, but I think curiosity is, is is extremely crucial in order for you to kind of push and you're the needle and create impact in whatever capacity you think that is. And so,
Final Notes on Podcast Support
01:19:39
Speaker
I hope this outro, whoever got to the end of this, is very crucial. Not crucial. I hope this outro helped anybody who listened to it.
01:19:50
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And I hope this episode was insightful as well. please make Make sure you follow Sim from the Hill. Great, great, great, great follow. And this man is doing... He's modeling for BBC right now. It's like... It's crazy. Awake. he's ah Nike. Like, this man is everywhere right now. So, shout out to Sim, man. Hopefully... Definitely he's gonna have... um He's gonna have to come back, you know, before... he's gonna He's gonna blow up. So, I'm gonna have to have him back again. Right? So...
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We got Jesse, Jesse G. We got Plox. We have Jordan Kaiser. We have Samia Grandpierre. We have Sean Hates You. We have Brett. We have AD, former guest AD, last week's guest AD. We have MDOT. Thank you all for...
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