Introduction and Listener Engagement
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Hey everyone, it's Alman Qureshi.
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You're listening to the Expat Brad Podcast.
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How are you guys doing?
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Has it been a happy few days for you guys?
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Have you been making money and establishing your name in the world and doing all sorts of great things?
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Changing the world, making it a better place for you and for me and the entire human race?
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I wonder how many of you don't know those lines.
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It just says something about my age, doesn't it?
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You know, God, what's going on?
Introduction to Andrew Tate Discussion
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I've woken up to some great news about some dude.
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This is the kind of stuff I feel like I have to cover now.
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That's his name, right?
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You guys heard of him?
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Younger generation will know him well.
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I don't know if you if you don't know him.
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I'd say you're a little out of touch from the internet age, my friends.
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It means you ain't hip.
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You ain't down with the kids.
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Or you just don't check your news enough.
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Or your news feed is different.
Andrew Tate's Controversies and Social Media Impact
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Andrew Tate is this kickboxer.
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What is he, a sports athlete?
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Yeah, an ex-professional kickboxer.
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And then he was on some reality TV show in the UK where he was booted off.
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Because apparently there was a video leak of him.
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I think there was an actual video of him assaulting a female, a woman.
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And he kind of defended it, I think.
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He said it was made up and out of context.
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I'm not laughing at the viewers.
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I'm just, oh, my God.
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Like, this is the kind of stuff.
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Is this the kind of stuff I'm going to have to talk about?
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Because that's what's, you know, happening in the world.
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He's one of those.
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He's one of those guys who is selling misogyny.
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who's going around talking big about men being superior.
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He's made some comments that have gone viral about men being smarter, men own women, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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So it riles up both sides.
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He's playing it well.
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It riles up both sides.
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There's like millions and billions of views on TikTok, not just of his page, but of him trending.
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And on a lot of social media platforms, YouTube and whatnot, I think he was banned from Twitter recently.
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A little while ago, a couple of months ago or something, a month, I think in July maybe.
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And now he's today, yesterday.
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That's how fast time flies.
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He's been removed from Instagram.
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Instagram and Facebook basically meta has said, you have not followed or broken our community guidelines.
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And so we're going to remove you.
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Apparently, a lot of hatred.
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So the thing that's getting to people is that apparently...
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A lot of young guys, kids around the age of 14, 15, have been listening to this stuff and inspired.
Staying Relevant and Open-minded
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So they've gone into some classrooms and not taken commands about anything that's female related, like coming down.
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There's some classroom where they refuse to read some work given to them because it was written by a woman.
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And apparently one of the teachers, when she said to some of these kids, she said, well, I'm a female.
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Well, that's a woman's job.
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Women do these jobs.
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And that's a mindset, apparently.
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created by him, but I don't think one guy can have that kind of just him.
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It's a lot of stuff going on over the internet, isn't it?
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Now, how do I know this?
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Let's take a step back.
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Why do I know about Andrew Tate as an older person who shouldn't be in touch?
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Because I make an effort.
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If you're older and you don't know Andrew Tate, first of all, first of all,
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You are out of touch, my friend, and you need to get down and get hip with the kids.
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That's what I'm saying.
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You ain't hip with the kids.
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And I think I don't do it because I want to find out what's trending.
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But it interests me, you know, and I think...
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I think one of the things I want to do is not get old and stuck in my ways.
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And, you know, every time I catch myself saying something like the music these days is crap, I just I just want to stop freezing and go, no, no, no, no.
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Don't go down that path.
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Now, I have my favorites from the olden times, but I'm trying to listen to stuff right now because I think that's the only way to stay young and fresh.
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And my body may be breaking down, decaying, and probably my mind, my brain too, but my mind.
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My thoughts and my approach to life, I want to always keep young.
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I think that's something very important to me.
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And I don't want to become those people that get stuck in their ideas and never evolve or whatnot.
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And part of me will.
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It's just what is it?
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It's science that your brain becomes less elastic.
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Those neurons, blah, blah, blah.
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So it's somewhat will happen.
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But I think overall, I think if I stay in touch and I got this from my grandma, she passed away.
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Last year in the summer, it was the year of the COVID.
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I'm blurring years now.
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It was either 2020 or 2021 summer.
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I was really sad to see her go.
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And I think one of the things that really
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really always I admired about her was that she should try to keep an open mind and she would say stuff like, well, this is the thing about the, you know, it's the thing the new generation wants to do this.
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Not for every crazy thing.
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She was like, well, you know, if they want to take drugs, that's cool.
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It's their generation.
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But more along the lines of trends and thought process and stuff.
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And I like that about her.
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It always made her relatable and fresh and energetic and lovely to talk to and just more full of life, you know.
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So I take that and I go, yeah, I want to be kind of like that.
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And so I do, I've been, again, I've been lucky because nephews and nieces around me.
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I hang out with them.
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I've got a kid myself who, you know, exposes because of him.
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I'm exposed to a lot of kiddie stuff.
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But more so in a lot of the work that I do in the theater, we have a lot of teenagers coming through.
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I get to work with lots and lots of young kids.
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They're always so fascinating to me.
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I love young people just starting out life and hopeful and just happy.
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It's just a great feeling to see that.
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Because I'm around them, I
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A lot of them are in my Insta and TikTok stuff.
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So I do pick up stuff that they're putting on and it interests me.
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So this is this is what's trending right now.
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This is what's blasting all over.
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And so, like I said, like a lot of this TikTok stuff, like this Andrew Tate story, I would not have probably caught on to it unless I was around seeing their posts and stuff about these things and how passionate they are.
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And that's interesting to me too.
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Also, it's scary, man.
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It's scary to think someone like him has blown up, especially over the last three, four months.
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He's got millions of people watching him.
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And I think on Insta, was it 4.7 million, something like that?
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It was his Insta page or TikTok, one of the two.
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And I'm just thinking, that's not a small number.
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That's millions of people all over the world, young kids, men.
Role of Social Media and Influence of Figures like Tate
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who are, you know, lapping this stuff up and corrupting their minds.
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And for Instagram to take that stand.
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I know we want to talk shit about these social media platforms all the time.
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And they're and I know it's not this doesn't like absolve them of everything, but.
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I got to applaud a good step, right?
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So you can't allow these voices to be amplified.
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And so you got to go, that's a good thing.
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That's got to be a good thing.
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And I know people come around in these right wings and go, freedom of speech.
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What about freedom of speech?
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And I go, screw your freedom of speech.
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This isn't about freedom.
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He's not going to be shut down.
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He's going to go around on podcasts and other men, Joe Rogan type shows and stuff and go on and still have his videos played out and pass around and whatnot.
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It doesn't shut him down, but it's just nice to see some kind of step taken.
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And freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom.
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You get Instagram is not freedom of speech.
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Instagram is a private business.
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They get to choose who you do it.
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And I'm glad they made that right choice because this is crazy.
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At least part of me thinks that.
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And it's just I can't in any way reconcile his what he says to anything good whatsoever.
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And this is beyond my ability to answer, but I'd love to know at some point, what's going on with these kids, young men, to feel the need to latch on to this kind of stuff?
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What programming has been done to them?
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That's the interesting bit.
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Why do they feel the need to think...
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I got to put down women, especially in an age where we're talking more about being inclusive and fair.
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What's what's going on with these kids?
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What's what's making them like this stuff or buy into it?
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You know, is it just to rebel against whatever the trend is, which is to be more inclusive or they feel left out some way that they're threatened by a
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That's an interesting one to me.
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And these guys, you know, one thing, the other thing I really think these guys do well, Andrew Tate and his types, is that I think they...
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They're doing well to rile people up so they start watching their stuff.
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I'm going to do that too.
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You know, I'm going to latch on to you.
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Here's the way to go viral.
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Take one of the hot topics.
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or anything good that people are doing, right?
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Take climate change, take diversity and inclusiveness.
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What else is there?
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There's any political thing.
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And almost take the...
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I wouldn't say unpopular, but the opinion that's more likely to upset people.
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You get what I mean, right?
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Just go against it.
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So if everyone says Superman is great, amazing, just say he's not.
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He's the worst comic ever.
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Or any movie that comes out.
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Just go against the grain.
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That's what I'm saying.
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And double down on it and be deliberately mean about that stuff.
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And I think you can go viral.
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Because people just like doing that.
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They like latching on to controversial topics and ideas.
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And all these social media platforms are created to do it.
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So what do you do?
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You're supposed to.
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I think what we're supposed to do is ignore the Andrew Tates of the world.
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But you can't, right?
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It's like an explosion you can't control.
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Someone threw a grenade, and if you're saying, okay, maybe if we don't talk about the grenade, then it won't matter.
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If you're in the vicinity and you're going to be impacted by the explosion, unfortunately, you don't have a choice, right?
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So that's where we are.
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So what's the thing?
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So then you start countering it.
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You try making fun of it.
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All of it makes it bigger.
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And then it turns into a thing of us versus them.
Comparison with Sports Figures and Issues of Entitlement
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And here we are, right?
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That just crazy, crazy stuff.
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This guy's 35 years old, this dude.
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You know, he's gone so far.
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Even some of the other right wing guys are going on and going like the Logans and stuff.
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They're like, I don't know.
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I don't agree with that.
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He's like the Trump.
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of the right wing people.
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Like even, even the Republicans are like, Oh my God, like I'm going to have to support this.
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You know, you've gone really far if you've done that, like, but he's getting away with it.
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And, uh, I know he's get, he's got banned from a few places.
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He is a, he's a Donald Trump, uh, fan.
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surprise surprise right so yeah there you go there you go and I just think I think the only way I can think of is like we should be allowed to make fun of it and by ridiculing it is the only way you can possibly I mean Anchorman did that right the movie did so well and yet here we are here we are what's the solution keep doing jokes I guess so that's all I have in my power and I
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These things... You know what I'm... I think it's something about men as well.
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Something to do with this?
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I know women have their own issues maybe.
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Are we really two different animals?
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But men... Sports... I think it's people with power and privilege is what it is.
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Like I'm watching sports right now.
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I'm listening to the stories about Ronaldo and KD and their demands about being moved to different teams and stuff.
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Man, this isn't player empowerment like they claim it to be.
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I'm all for player empowerment.
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They're the ones who get the, you know, that's who you go to watch, put the butts on the seats and whatnot.
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But too much of it is, like, too bad.
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And also, it's not, like, I really think it's not, it's not, it's just a top few players that get all the advantages.
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And then it's not player empowerment.
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Because, you know, this stuff is, I don't know if you know, but, like, Kevin Durant, like, he just goes up.
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He just gets up one day.
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He's the one who built this team together, the Nets, the Brooklyn Nets.
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And then he goes, I'm out unless you do this for me.
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And that demand is deliberately...
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I think that's what it is.
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And he's put the whole organization in the situation just a few months before the things is about to start.
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Maybe Ben Simmons, when he moved over to the Nets, because he's not been playing, he's probably just been chatting with these guys.
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And some of it has rubbed off on them.
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And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.
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I get paid for not playing and just make lots of demands and then blame the organization for not bringing in a championship.
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Got to go somehow.
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I don't care how great you are as players.
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Particularly, what's interesting to me is Ronaldo and KD, those two are getting old.
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I don't know Ronaldo's whole story, but he's also making demands about moving off from Man U and...
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Not happy with the... And both of them had the similar thing about, I want to win a championship now.
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And it just says, I don't know, it just says something about...
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what's become important is possibly not the thing that should be important.
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I know championships are important and they're a huge part of your legacy.
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But I think, think about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, right?
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Like he's stuck in towards the end with the Lakers and stuff he's playing.
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And then he won a couple of championships at the end to go with that.
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So there's no sense of like, I think you can criticize these players without...
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It's sounding like you're taking sides with owners or something or you're against the power of players having empowerment and whatnot.
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So you should be allowed to criticize these moves because they're rude.
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At the very least, they're super rude, right?
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They've done all these things.
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And you know why I say this is not a true player empowerment thing?
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Because it's the big guys like these guys calling shots.
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But it affects so many other players.
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Can you imagine the Nets team just...
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Just the rest of the players going, hey, man, am I going to be moved now because this guy's demanding this?
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And all of us, we don't know what's happening now.
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Can you imagine all the players that have to be transferred around and accommodated or rooted out of their places and whatnot because this guy has to be accommodated?
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I think that's so unfair.
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You know, they're out of touch with the stuff.
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It's throwing tantrums and everything.
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That's what it is at this point.
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You know, they just, is it too much money?
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It's the players on top, right?
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Like Shaq, I heard Shaq say this.
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You know, Charles Barkley was apparently, I don't know if you know the whole thing about Live Golf and the scandal that Saudis are sponsoring it and the PGA fight off with the two.
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Shaq goes in support for Charles Barkley.
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He says, I would have supported him every which way if he had gone on.
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This is the part that got me.
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He says, Charles is one of those legends, like Bill Russell, that didn't make a lot of money playing.
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I hear you in comparison.
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You know how much Charles Barkley made?
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He made $50 million over the course of his career.
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I looked this shit up just because I was like, really?
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His net worth right now is $40 million.
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These guys are so out of touch that they think that's not good money.
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It reminds me of this story of this banker, senior banker I sat with.
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I was in the banking industry back then and the financial crisis.
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It was 2010, two years down the line.
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People have lost their homes and whatnot.
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And the senior banker is lamenting this fact.
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He's like, oh, yeah, it's tough.
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Well, two of my three houses have lost a bit of value in the UK.
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You're whining about a little loss in value.
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People have literally lost their whole life savings.
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And that's it's being out of touch, people.
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It's just being around so much money.
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They don't know what they're talking about anymore.
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And when you know, and that's why that.
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I got to admire people like Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and these guys at that point.
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I don't think they lost their head like this.
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They were focused on the right things, and these guys aren't.
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These superstars, they're just kind of annoying me now.
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Whose shirt should I buy right now?
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I want to support.
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I like having that, but I'm like, hey, man, I might buy some player's shirt and then jersey or whatever and then find out they've shipped off to another team.
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I just feel bad for the other players.
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They're just sitting around.
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They're going to be displaced by these trades.
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Maybe sent to the worst teams all because one person wants to go.
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It's like you're being sent to the Jackson 5 for Michael Jackson.
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You're like, that's...
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And why are they allowed to do this?
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You know, these guys are good basketball players, but they're not necessarily good managers or constructing winning rosters or cultures, no matter how successful they are in NBA 2K and in the in the my GM mode or whatever.
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We've seen actors ruin franchises when they get too much control.
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Maybe not Tom Cruise, a fan of his, but other actors do that all the time.
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You can't do this.
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You can't have these players running around like that.
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That's just crazy.
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Ronaldo is worth like 500 million dollars or pounds or whatever he's made.
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Like it's insane money.
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Ben Simmons hasn't played a game.
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He's worth six million dollars, man.
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The guy has six million million.
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We say million like it's peanuts.
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It's a lot of zeros.
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And these guys, none of us are going to make that kind of money in our whole life, probably.
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A lot of us might not.
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And so it's this wish without sounding anti players or anti whatever that.
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I think these players at the top need to buckle down or something and start playing, right?
00:22:04
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Ronaldo throwing a hissy about the teams.
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I don't like the way the team is putting together.
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Just be a more positive influence.
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These guys are at the dead end of their career anyway.
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I don't know how old is Ronaldo.
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These guys, they just, okay, Ben Simmons is young, but he's an idiot.
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I don't care how talented you are.
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I don't care even if you're in your prime.
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There's got to be a place where the team owners go, all right, stop this.
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And look at all these stories, all right?
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Everything I'm talking about today.
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It's just, it's not men.
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It's not a race thing.
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To me, it's people with too much privilege and power.
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centered into one thing and then they go off their rockers.
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They just want to feed off that kind of stuff.
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Even coming back to these right-wing guys saying, I think Andrew Tate just said something.
00:23:03
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He got cornered in and he went, you know what?
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I'm just going to play it out now.
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Some PR guy probably said, play it out, be that person, and who knows what he really believes
Conclusion and Farewell
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He's actually that guy.
00:23:16
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idiotic or he's doing it to get likes and fans and we all fall for it that's uh that's the way it's going to happen so you know what i'm gonna jump on that bandwagon and uh
00:23:29
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I'm going to title this one.
00:23:31
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If you're just listening to this right at the end, that means you made it.
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I'm going to title this one Andrew Tate and Privileged Men and see what kind of bites it gets because I'm jumping on that bandwagon and see what happens to this episode in particular.
00:23:50
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So if you've listened this far, you're on to my thinking right now and you've fallen for it as well, just like everybody else on the Internet.
00:23:57
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And there is no escape.
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We're just hooked on to this like it's a drug and it's going to happen again.
00:24:05
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And now, even though I've said it, it'll still happen.
00:24:08
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That's the beauty of it.
00:24:09
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So anyway, this has been great.
00:24:11
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You guys have been great.
00:24:12
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I've had a chance to vent.
00:24:13
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I feel much better about my life.
00:24:15
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Probably my negative ranting has left you feeling hopeless, but I feel really great.
00:24:20
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So thank you for listening.
00:24:22
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I'll catch you guys at the next episode.
00:24:24
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Take care of yourself, guys.
00:24:26
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Or as a dog would say, woof.