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LOL’s Not Lost in Translation and Comedy Genres
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Sara quizzes Kristina about the different types of comedy and Kristina brings the ways we text laughing (haha) around the world. JAJA Let’s go!
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Introducing Laughing with Gingers Podcast
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This is our podcast song. It isn't very long. Hey, thanks everyone for tuning into Laughing with Gingers. The podcasts were two feisty redheads with loud laughs, share crazy stories, play games, and spread Salinas. Enjoy.
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That little Napasaurus Rex that you hear over there is fresh out of bed and excited to be here today. Christina Curry, my partner in crime on the Laughing with Ginger's podcast. Oh, she called me out, y'all. Sarah Alopin, my co-host of Laughing with Ginger is totally calling me out. Yes, I was kind of napping before we recorded.
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Very deserved, you worked so hard. So hard, so hard. I worked hard on this homework too. Oh, did you? Well, what did you bring today?
How Do Different Cultures Express Laughter?
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All right, so I brought how other languages indicate laughter on the internet. Interesting. Okay, I'm excited by that. I brought the different types of comedy.
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Ooh. Are you going to quiz me or something? I am going to read you the description and see if you can guess the type of comedy that it is. OK, OK, because I started running through my brain instantly. Oh, God, what are the types? I feel like she's going to close me.
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I guess I can put them in our little chat here, the different types of comedy. And then, so you'll have a little key list. While you tell me about the first one of the things you brought. Okay, cool. Well, obviously, in English, we write AJ, AJ, AJ.
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And, or we write LOL or he, he, you know, H E E H E E. In Spanish, instead of H A H A, they write J A J A, but that's because they pronounce the J like an H. Cause that's ha ha. Yeah, exactly. Um, and then Arabic, they actually write just a bunch of H's.
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Because in Arabic, they don't really write short vowels. So it's still read as ha ha ha ha. It's just spelled H-H-H-H-H-H. Really? That's kind of cool. Yeah, yeah. I'll give you one more.
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In Japan, they write a bunch of W's, the more the better. And it's because the first letter of the Japanese word for laughter starts with a W. It's W-A-R-A-U. I don't know how to pronounce that. So when you write it in English, it's W-A-R-A-U. So they just write a bunch of W's that stands for the word laughter.
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No, no. And the more W's you put, the funnier something is, which I feel like we don't follow that rule in English. Like, just because we write, you know, ha ha ha doesn't make it any less funnier than ha or less funnier than like five ha ha's, you know? That's true. But what about like a bahaha?
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Right. I feel like there was a moment of glory for bahaha and now I barely even ever see it. Really? I still use it all the time. Oh, you do? Yeah. When it's like when it's an appropriate situation for bahaha. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You bust it out. Also, in all fairness, I probably laugh a lot more in text messages than most people.
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just by nature of, I think things are very funny and I'm easily amused. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we are mutual in that, in that experience. I constantly am like, LOL, ha ha ha. Do they have different emojis? That would be interesting.
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Oh, I wonder. I don't know if the emojis Apple puts out are universal emojis or what. Yeah, I wonder. I mean, I have several follow-up questions to that because then if you do an emoji in a Google Doc, it looks different from the emoji that you use in your text message.
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Like use the shortcut, like the colon, colon, tada, which is the confetti popper that I love, colon, colon, that doesn't translate to Facebook. Oh, yeah. Facebook has their own set of different but same Z's emojis. Yeah. But you can copy paste out of a Google Doc into your text and it works. You can't do the same for Facebook to something else.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I've copied from somewhere and dropped into notes and it didn't translate. But from notes, I can drop it in to like a Word document and it translates. It's so weird how that stuff is. Yeah. So we might not even know unless we were looking at someone else's phone in another country. I know. Or yeah, exactly. I should ask Angie because her parents have weird phones, I think.
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Do they? Yeah, especially I think when they are coming back from Korea, I'll ask Angie what's up with that. If their keyboards are weird. That's amazing. OK, are you ready for guessing comedy? OK, yeah, I think so. Probably, maybe.
Exploring Types of Comedy
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Maybe, maybe. Definitely.
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OK, so this type of humor focuses on the shortcomings of a particular character or performer. The shortcomings. And I guess for while you think about it, for the for those of us who are playing at home, the types of comedy are slapstick comedy, dark comedy, self-deprecating humor,
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high comedy, situational comedy, romantic comedy, parody, observational comedy, deadpan comedy, farce, tragic comedy, and surreal humor. I think I got them all because I read them in a weird order so it's possible I missed some and I'm not quizzing you on all of them so ha ha.
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Oh, so some of these are like, like, not real. Well, they're real. I mean, they aren't going to be used. Yeah, I'm not going to throw me off a sense. Yeah, like there are some where you can't describe it without it being the most obvious thing in the entire.
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OK, OK, I get that. Get that. Yep. OK. All right. Read it to me again one more time, one more time. OK. This type of humor focuses on the shortcomings of a particular character or performer. OK, I feel like that's self-deprecating. Ding, ding, ding. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It kind of threw me off because you said of the character instead of like the character will do this to themselves. Yeah, I actually thought that was interesting, too. And I believe that these descriptions all came from Judd Apatow. So it's from the from a different place than as the comedian writing it. Yeah. OK, I see. Because he's like writing for other people.
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Mm-hmm. That makes sense. Okay, so Yeah, I was thinking the same thing I was like cuz self means yourself All right, good job you want another one yeah
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I'm keeping tallies. Oh, God. You're going to get laffy face emojis for this. Ja, ja, ja, ja. Ha, ha. It's ha, ha. I know. OK. This type of comedy draws humor from the relationships and dynamics between a recurring cast of characters
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in a consistent setting. So what'd you say? I said, ooh, there's more. I think you probably need an example because this one's kind of hard. So some popular TV examples of this would be The Office and Seinfeld. Oh my goodness.
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So it draws humor from relationships and dynamics between a recurring cast in a consistent setting. I feel like it's situational comedy. Ding, ding, ding. Oh, nice. I thought that one was really hard. Yeah, yeah. It's one of my favorite types of comedy because you named two sitcoms that I love.
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For me, I get that secondhand anxiety. You can't hang. It just depends on what the situation is. And if there is anxiety involved, Seinfeld kills me. Oh my God, I love it. I love it. There are moments where I'm like, Oh God, I can't with this. But otherwise, yeah, mostly I'm down with it.
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Yeah, it's oh my God. And there are moments the office is brutal too. I have to take breaks from it because I'll like notice later that I'm antsy. Do you want another one or do you want to? Okay, you ready? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so this type of humor involves physical comedy, including exaggerated facial expressions and stunts.
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It was popularized in the early 20th century. Is it slapstick comedy? Is that your final answer? Final answer. Ding, ding, ding. Nice.
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I was thinking is slapstick like goofy, like, you know, like daddy jokes, but it's like the Three Stooges or Yeah, yeah. Are they the ones that popularize that type? I wonder. Charlie Chaplin and the Three Stooges. Okay, that makes sense.
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Alright, you want to give me some more laughing translation? Yes, we I mean, let's go to France. Okay, so haha is straightforward. By the way, let me just blanket statement. The resource I got these from was all on Reddit. So they might be adjacent accurate.
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we are not a credible source. Oh, man. Okay, so AHA is straightforward. So for so when it's like
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Okay, French, they were saying, and I saw a couple of resources. It's a little hard to explain, but if they type the HA, it's more of a giddy. They're like, giddy. They're like, ha ha ha. And then HE with the accent on it, so HE accent, HE accent, is a laugh that kind of accompanies, it's like an evil laugh, like a dark humor. Like, ha ha ha.
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Totally that. Yes, totally that. And then the French equivalent of L-O-L, if they don't actually just use L-O-L, they'll use N-D-R, which stands for morte reere, which is like dying of laughter, basically. So it's like the first letter of that phrase. It would be like us saying, you know, D-O-L instead of L-O-L.
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So they'll go MDR MDR MDR like they're dying of laughter. That is hysterical. I love it. I know. I know. It's so funny how they have a different tone for ha ha versus like he he which we kind of do too. I feel like in English if we type in like he he he it's it is kind of like a giggly one. I think it's the reverse though. Like he he is like a
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smaller laugh than haha. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so too. And like, tee hee. I never realized we had so many ways of doing it until like right now in this moment. We do. I hadn't thought about it either until you started doing this and I was like relating it to our language.
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Yeah, that's so weird. Okay, one more, one more. So in Italian, it's the same as the English, haha, lol. But here's what's interesting is they don't use the MDR for lol, even though like the French, they have the same sort of saying, worto, da, reder, or however you say it. But like several people are like, I've never actually seen Italians using that shorter MDR like the French do.
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Interesting. I would also like to point out that Christina lived in Paris and still cannot say this. No. And that's okay. I mean, I lived there a very long time ago. I know I have zero capability of speaking French in this moment, or any moment. I barely squeaked by.
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All right, you want another one? Yes. Okay, so this type of comedy is considered highbrow. And it's sometimes known as the comedy of manners. And it generally uses satirical wit in the context of upper class societies. Oh, man, like Frasier.
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That's the first one I thought of for sure. I'm going to say high comedy. Ding, ding, ding. Yes. You're four for four. I like high comedy too. I love Frasier. It was such a funny show. Oh, man. You want another one? Yeah, I like this game. I know you're doing so well. Killing it.
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You really are. Okay, so this sub genre focuses on the incronguity, incronguity. Is that right? I don't think that's the right way, but like, I'm, I'm not quite sure the right way to do it.
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That's what we're going with here of comedic elements like morbid and morbid subjects like war, death and crime. Oh, I would say dark comedy. Ding, ding, ding. Yeah. Yep. Five for five. Oh, my God. How you feeling? Oh, God, a little nervous. But confident.
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That's good. That's good. Should we take a little break? Yeah, let's take a break and then I'll, you know, bring you over to Sweden.
Unique Laughter Expressions in Sweden and Russia
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Yes. Okay. So in Sweden, you can type ha ha ha, like in English or H-I-H-I-H-I or H-O-H-O-H-O or H-E-A-G-H-E, all different kinds.
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And again, each one has slightly different meanings to them. So H-I-H-I-H-I is a little more giggly and H-E-H-E is more chuckling. The traditional ha-ha is just kind of like, you know, just a normal laughing. Yeah, exactly.
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And then in Russia, they type it X-A, X-A, X-A. And it's because the X is actually red like H in Russia, Russian. Interesting. And then actually in both Russia and Ukraine,
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they'll type in a bunch of Gs or a B and a bunch of Gs, and this is used to indicate giggling. I don't know if it's because giggle starts with G, but that's like the giggle form of it. How fun! I know, I know. Okay, I'll stop there. I love that even though they're different, you could actually understand it across all these languages so far, I think.
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I know. And if ever you see weird, you know, GG, GG, GG, GG, it's not because a cat sat on your keyboard. Although that would also maybe be funny, depending on what you're doing on your keyboard in that moment. Oh, boy. All right. You want another one from me? Yeah, definitely. You ready? You're five for five.
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All right, so this type of comedy focuses on absurd situations that defy logic and reason. Oh, that sounds like a fun one. Hmm, I'm going to say surreal. Ding, ding, ding. So this is
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like Monty Python style. Oh, love it. Wouldn't they be like deadpan comedy too? Because sometimes they're so dry with their humor. I feel like that's pretty much the British brand.
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Yeah, it's true. It's true. They do really good with that. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting because a lot of these like you could classify multiple into the same like a movie could fit in multiple buckets. Oh, yeah, totally. I should have looked into how often it fits in just one bucket. That would have been an interesting question. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you ready for another one? Yeah. Yeah. Let's do it.
00:23:22
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Okay, so this type of comedy strives to entertain audience by using witty phrases, including puns, double entendres, alliteration, and rhymes. Oh my God.
00:23:41
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That sounds like so much fun. I'm going to go with a wordplay comedy. Ding, ding, ding. Nice, nice, nice. Yay. How many how many do you have? OK, I have one, two, three, four, five left because I skipped one. OK, I have three left just just to lay my cards out there.
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All right. Well, you want to give me another translation? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Um, in Thai, they spell it out with the number five over and over and over and over again,
Thai Laughter: The Number '5' Phenomenon
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because in Thai, the word five is pronounced ha.
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I love that. I know. Isn't it great just typing the number five? I think so far that one's my favorite. I think that's so cute. I also love that. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so it's super fun. Super fun. That's amazing. All right. Are you ready for another one from me? Oh, yeah.
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Okay. This comedy combines elements that are humorous elements with serious subjects to explore different aspects of the human experience. Parody? Damn it. Observational?
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Earn. Oh, no. Do I give you two points off for that? Oh, God. Which one is it? All right, you're giving up? Yeah, I'm giving up. Tragic comedy. Oh, OK.
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Oh, such a far fall from. I know. Damn it. You can make it up though. I believe in you. Do you want another one to recover and then we'll switch it back over to you? Okay. Yeah, please, please. Okay. This type of comedy centers around exaggerated characters dealing with improbable situations caused by miscommunication or mistaken identity.
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Oh, snap. Is it surreal comedy? Oh, no. Oh, no. You guys. Oh, no. You're winning crying face emojis, not the laughing one, but like the streams. Yeah. OK, I think
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I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Tell me which one it is. Do you want me to give you the two examples? Yeah, okay, do it. Okay, so home alone and the hangover. I mean- Exaggerated characters dealing with improbable situations caused by miscommunication or mistaken identity.
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Are we repeating these? No. Oh, farce? Yes. Oh, all right, all right. I kept going to situational in my brain. Yeah, I think for that you get the single tear smiley face. Trying through my pain.
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since you recovered. Oh, good. All right. All right. Oh, I forgot to tell you this story really fast. Over the weekend, total side note, my friend who is a ginger at heart and also dyes her hair red just so she can be a ginger like we are.
00:28:10
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told me, so she nannies for this little girl and she was telling this little girl that she has a friend that has a podcast. And the little girl was like, what's a podcast? And she's like, oh gosh, well, it's sort of like a TV show, but you don't see her. And she's like, I don't understand. And my friend was like, I couldn't tell her it's like a radio because she definitely doesn't know what a radio is.
00:28:35
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And then she was like, well, I mean, you just listened to her talking. And like the little girl was just so confused and was like, okay, like you're crazy. I don't know why that's entertaining. I guess it would be like listening to a book. Yeah, but like how many little kids are listening to a book? I don't know. But you can't see a radio show. It would be like a phone call.
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where you are on mute. Yeah, like you aren't allowed to talk back. So funny. Adults are silly.
00:29:17
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We really are. We really are. I know. What do we do to ourselves? Okay. All right. So Brazilian Portuguese uses H-A-H-A-H-A. So far that is the leading winner across the whole board. They also use H-U-A, H-U-A, H-U-A and R-S. And sometimes they use just R-S and sometimes they repeat R-S, R-S, R-S.
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And RS is short for miso, which in Portuguese is the word for laughter. Yeah. They also use KKK, KKK, KKK, which is pronounced... Christina Curry? Yeah, exactly.
Laughter in Brazilian Portuguese and Vietnamese Cultures
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Christina Curry over and over and over and over again. Yeah, but it's pronounced ca-ca-ca-ca-ca-ca, I guess.
00:30:15
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All right. I am very much enjoying these different laugh abbreviations. I know I was too. I went deep dive Reddit resource here. Amazing. All right. Are you ready for another one? I have three left. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. I have one left and it's a big one.
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Okay. This style of comedy is very dry and evokes laughter through intentional lack of emotion while talking about absurd topics. Oh, this was an easy one. Zedpan comedy. Ding, ding, ding. That was a gimme. Do you want the final two before you give me your last one? Yeah, let's do it. All right.
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This type of comedy is used by performers to draw attention to the unnoticed humor in everyday life. Parody. Damn it. Tragic. Oh, no. Observational. Observational. Ding, ding, ding. You're going to get another single tear smiley face.
00:31:32
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I forgot to look at, so you guys, just so everyone knows what I'm looking at, Sarah sent a text message through our platform, and one message says slapstick comedy, another message says observation comedy, and then the next message lists all of them. And so I keep forgetting to look back at the other two messages that are just saying, I feel like she did it on purpose. Well, I was trying to hit shift enter, and then I thought the second time it happened, I was like, okay,
00:32:02
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I must not have hit shift. So then I tried it again. It didn't work. And then I was like, Christina's going to have to scroll through this text box forever to find them if I keep sending them one by one. So then I changed my style. Totally like to throw me off the scent.
00:32:22
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Well, you've already used slapstick and observational. So you know that the last one is not either of those. So now you can just look at the big chunky one. Thank you. All right. So this is based around spoof. And it works through imitation and exaggeration.
00:32:46
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Okay, so that one is parody. Ding, ding, ding. Thank God. Okay, I got it. I got it. Do you want the bonus one? Ooh, okay. This comedy is based around love and humor. Oh God, that is tragic comedy.
00:33:10
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Just kidding. It's romantic. But can't be tragic. True, true. Along the way. All right, you got 10 correct. One, just a complete blowout failure. So 10 laffy face crying slanted emojis. One crying emoji with the streams of tears going down your face.
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And then two with just one little teardrop and a smile. Okay. Okay. I'll take it. That's a good emoji situation right there. Good emoji route. Good job, Christina. I didn't get the one with the high fives on either side of the face. That one's my favorite.
00:34:03
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I don't remember what it is, but I love that one. It seems like the emoji is just so excited. It is a very excited emoji. Yeah, we should at some point share what our most commonly used emojis are. I wish there was an app that could tell you what's the most commonly used emoji. You can just go to your recent thing. Mine is always the same ones.
00:34:33
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Oh, mine switches because sometimes I'll be on a kick to use one thing. And I'm also always using emojis for clients because I'm posting on social media for them. So it's not like an accurate representation of what's truly in my heart. Oh, yeah. I get that. Oh, man. Okay.
00:34:54
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All right. So in Vietnam, they use H.I. H.I. H.I. and which again, they use that in Sweden as well, which is very weird. They also use the K.E. K.E. K.E., which is oh, gosh, who used that one also? I think it was I don't remember. I can't think of I can't see it. OK. There was K.K.K.K. and that was in Brazil. Brazilian Portuguese. Yeah.
00:35:24
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So that particular version, K-E-K-E-K-E is the evil laugh, which is similar to our mwahaha.
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And then here's a really funny side note for LOL, which was first introduced, you know, when we all started using it, of course, and back in the day, Vietnam started using it too. And the thing was they weren't familiar with what it stood for and would often offend people because that word in Vietnamese is actually slang for pussy.
00:36:05
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Oh, and so it was considered super insulting. And so lol was mistaken as an insult, which now is not the case. But back then when it first started coming out was totally an insult. Oh my gosh. Can you imagine?
00:36:26
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I know the kids were probably using it and the adults were like, what is happening? It's like when when moms think that LOL means like something about love. Oh, yeah.
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And then they're like, Grandma died lol. Oh my god, we should really look up like the mistaken identities of these, you know, shortened versions, like what people thought they were at first and what they were actually, you know? Yeah, be kind of funny. That's true. That's a good episode idea. H A H A H A. Thanks everyone for joining us on laughing with gingers today.
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