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Which Appalachian Cryptid Would You Rather be Haunted By?
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Sara brings the rules of Appalachia and the cryptids that inspired the rules. Which cryptid would you rather be haunted by?
Cryptid (n). A creature that people believe in and may have seen, but hasn’t been proven to exist (yet).
This episode is dedicated to Mandy Ross, our dear friend and fan of the show who passed away recently. She loved true crime, mysteries, games, animals, and laughter.
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Transcript
00:00:01
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This is our podcast song. It isn't very long. Hello. Hello. Hello.
Podcast Introduction
00:00:12
Speaker
Thanks everyone for tuning into Laughing with Ginger's. The podcast where two feisty redheads with loud laughs share crazy stories, play games and spread silliness and joy.
00:00:23
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That little camping enthusiast you hear over there is my partner in crime on the Laughing with Jingers podcast, Christina Curry. And that is Sarah Ellipin, aka Prankster Monk, and my co-host of Laughing with Jingers.
Appalachian Hauntings
00:00:36
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And my reference to you is quite timely because today I brought the rules of Appalachia to avoid hauntings. Oh my god.
00:00:48
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And before anyone yells at me about how you say Appalachia, it is specific to where you grew up, how you pronounce it. Yes, people pronounce it Appalachia. Where I grew up, we pronounce it Appalachia. I just want to be very clear. It is specific to the area where you grew up in the part of the Appalachian Trail or Appalachian Trail that you grew up on. So nobody come from... Well, if you come for me, whatever, fuck off. I don't care. They're coming for you.
00:01:17
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The ghost of Appalachia or whatever.
Appalachian Haunting Games
00:01:22
Speaker
It's like if someone threw an apple at you, Appalachia. I like that. I like that. Where I grew up, we all say Appalachia. Oh, got it. I like the other version better. I get it. I get it. What did you bring?
00:01:43
Speaker
I brought dumb criminals and the dumb things that they do. Like legit, some of these are real life people and it's ridiculous. Well, that sounds amazing. I can't wait. And because you know I always bring a game, I also brought which Appalachian haunting would you prefer to have? And you get to choose.
00:02:12
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Which did you would like to be yours? Oh, my God. None of the above. Oh, no. All right. All right. Hmm. I'm ready for it. All right. Do you want me to start with the rules? Yeah, let's start with the rules, I suppose.
00:02:32
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Okay, so I know this has gotten viral on TikTok and things, but this is actually true. If you've ever been on the Appalachian Trail or in Appalachia, we actually all believe this. And I didn't grow up in Appalachia, but where my dad grew up is in Appalachia, and we used to be up there all the time to visit my family and everything, and these are very accurate. So never be in the woods from dusk until dawn.
00:03:06
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OK. And if you are, you have to have nerves of steel and you have to really follow the rest of the rules, too. Like if you're camping, obviously. But yeah, follow all the other rules if you're camping. Never leave the marked trail. It is marked for a reason. OK, that's just good. That's just good advice no matter where you're at. True, true.
00:03:35
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If you hear voices close to you, they're far away. But if the voices are far away, then they're actually near. Oh my God, that gives me the EBGBs. Do not whistle or sing in the woods. Oh my God, why? And never look too hard into the trees because you might not like what you see.
00:04:01
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Oh my God. Ew, creepy. Oh my God. I'm going to have nightmares for sure. I'm so glad I'm not camping this weekend. We should have made this a two parter and split our episodes. Oh my God. We should have. I mean, we still can for sure. That's true. I mean, I'll let you decide.
00:04:32
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six, eight, I think 10. We might have to make this one a Sarah brought content episode. I mean, we can do it. You want to do it? Or do you want to you want to bring your dumb criminals to or your ridiculous? Because the dumb criminals thing, I mean, it's an endless sea of dumb criminal things. That's true. And
00:05:03
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We can make this a part two. Okay. Okay. Cool. All right. Are you ready to choose your haunting? God, no. You chose to do the game instead of your game. I know. Oh, God. Okay. I'm in. I'm in. Kristina's already going to die. She's not even being haunted yet.
Choosing Cryptids
00:05:30
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Oh, no. Okay. The wampus. Option one, the wampus. This is a large black feline-like creature that lives in the woods and has been spotted around Pleasance County, West Virginia. Wampus beasts are four times the size of male mountain lions and weigh 500 to 600 pounds with massive paws. The predators have a strong odor
00:05:59
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with a strong odor, like a cross between a wet dog and a skunk. Oh, God. Gross. So that's real. These are cryptids. So it's folklore. It depends on if you believe in it. OK. I mean, I can't I I have never met any of these creatures personally. OK. But I also obey the rules of Appalachia when I go. So I have not experienced. I have heard things.
00:06:30
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I'll tell you about it after you choose. Um, you may have to remind me because I'm just so excited to see which one is going to haunt you. Cause I just love you. Oh, that's the anxiety sound when Christina makes that. Okay. Option two is the wolf man.
00:06:55
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a large canine-esque mammal that roams near Wolf County, Kentucky. Believed to weigh in at 500 pounds and stand taller than seven feet in height, the Wolf Man is a bipedal, which is two-footed.
00:07:15
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in case that was unclear. And has fur similar to a bear or a gorilla. Very different hair to me, the bear and the gorilla. I think part of it's the chest, because if you're imagining it standing up. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Also, gorilla hair seems longer. Maybe it's a texture thing. I don't know. I've never pet it either.
00:07:41
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Disbelief, although I would. I would given the opportunity to. It'd be the last thing I did, but. But damn, that was great. Worth it. OK, it is believed to live in caves and has been seen around the area since the 70s.
00:08:08
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Oh, okay. So what would I rather hang out with? Which one would you rather be haunted by? I guess you could hang out with us. Make peace with your ghost or cryptid. Oh, no. I'm going to choose the second one because the first one just sounds stinky.
00:08:33
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Honestly, what I was thinking too, although I mean, also the Wampus is 500 to 600 pounds with massive paws, whereas the Wolfman, yes, taller than seven feet, but is only weighing in at 500 pounds. So it seems like you may have a competitive edge over the Wolfman versus the Wampus. And this is, you know, not having met either personally.
00:09:02
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I mean, maybe the wolf man we can like sit and have a conversation. True. I don't know. What's he going to talk about? He lives in a cave. He could be like Chewie Chewbacca. He just never had a chance. Yeah, yeah. I think that person might really like tea. Oh, no.
00:09:33
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All right. So Wolfman, it is for this one. Yeah, 100% Wolfman. All right. All right. So here's your next two options. This one you're probably familiar with. May have heard of a time or two. I'm curious if you believe in this one because it has been rumored to be in other areas as well. Bigfoot.
00:10:01
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I have heard of Bigfoot. No, I can't believe it. The Appalachian Mountains are believed to be a haven for Bigfoot. The elusive creature has been spotted throughout Tennessee, Kentucky, Virginia, and West Virginia. Eyewitness accounts describe the creature as having
00:10:23
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different colored fur, though one of the most striking species of Bigfoot is a nocturnal creature with black fur and growing green eyes. Ooh, creepy. And the second option you can choose from is the smoke wolf. Ooh.
00:10:48
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A solid black smoke wolf, so it's not made of smoke, I guess, is a massive canine that with eyes as red as the sun. One witness has heard smoke wolves howl and scream in the night on his property, and he describes that as pure evil, noting they kill for fun.
00:11:12
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The only known way to deter a smoke wolf is with the rattling of chains. Oh, okay. I'm saying way clear from all of that. Sasquatch, hands down. Hands down is the way to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:11:36
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I mean, the thing is, you could technically rig rattling chains, though. I don't want to live in a world where I have to have rattling chains happening all the time. Good point. Okay. Okay. That's just like too much. I can barely handle the cat meowing in the morning.
00:11:58
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What if Bigfoot is elusive because they're secretly really needy and they won't stop talking to you in the morning? Everyone's ghosted Bigfoot. Things are a little changed then.
00:12:23
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I'm sure that's not the case because Bigfoot is beloved and then people really might murder me if I was to spread the rumor of Bigfoot being needy. How dare you, Sarah?
00:12:39
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We're going to get an angry letter and it's not going to be pretty. Oh my God. I like to imagine that Bigfoot is a redhead personally.
Redhead Adventures
00:12:50
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Oh, me too. 100%. In my brain, straight up ginger. Oh yeah, totally. I feel like that's the best camo color for the woods, which I know sounds counterintuitive, but it's the closest to tree bark, I think.
00:13:09
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and like dead leaves. True. True. Maybe that's why we get attacked by birds. Oh, maybe. If you're new here, Christina and I have repeatedly been attacked by birds.
00:13:28
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like an abnormal amount of how much a human really should have to suffer through. Oh, God, I forgot to tell you remind me at the end to well, I'll just tell you now. I do know that I'm immune to poison ivy. Uh, oh, I think you slacked me something about that.
00:13:49
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Okay, yeah, so I did slack you about it. So I was immune to poison ivy growing up, and I'm kind of convinced this is a redheaded thing, but I'm not positive. There was no research associated with this. Devin, our friend, did a deep dive into it.
00:14:08
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And you can grow out of immunity to poison ivy. So I was very nervous that when I touched it the other day that it was going to get me and I've never had it. So I was like, Oh God, this is going to be horrible. So I like washed my hands right away because I touched it with my hand and then I like took a shower and then I did my workout and took another shower. And I took Benadryl and made my peace with whatever was going to happen at that point was going to happen.
00:14:35
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And I did not get poison ivy, so I think I'm still immune. And I'm very curious if you are also immune because I have a theory. It's a redhead thing. I mean, it might be a ginger thing. I also feel like you showered a shit ton and took Benadryl. So this is that you need to go back and just rub it all over your naked body and don't do anything. And then I'm going to be convinced you're immune.
00:15:04
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Even if you wash your hands right away or wherever you touch it, it still makes you flare up usually. You rub it all over your naked body, then I will and let's figure it out. Rub it all over my naked body. Just roll around in it.
00:15:24
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Oh, God, it's trying to take over my backyard, probably to hide some sort of cryptid that's now going to come for me when I go outside later tonight.
Cryptid Histories
00:15:35
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Wolfman. Which one said it was in Virginia? Is it Wolfman? Oh, no, it's it's Bigfoot. I feel fine with that. I will welcome Bigfoot for some. You're listening, Bigfoot. You're welcome to hang out in Sarah's backyard. Let me know if you're also immune to poison ivy.
00:15:55
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with your red head itself. All right, which one are you gonna choose? Here are your two options. Mothman. Mothman is one of the more famous surprisingly of the Appalachian cryptids. And also I could be saying cryptid and using this incorrectly because I did not fully read the description of some of these and I hadn't heard of all of them, but cryptids are like, I don't, I would call it like a paranormal
00:16:25
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doesn't make sense that it exists kind of thing. So that's how I'm defining it. But so Mothman is one of the more famous ones and they're like movies. You have to have heard of the Mothman movie. Yeah, I've heard of that word, but I don't have any vision in my head of what he looks like, except for a man with like moth wings. Yeah, so okay. So just for reference, that is the Mothman. The movie is about
00:16:55
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Mothman.
00:16:56
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OK, and stuff. So and there's like a huge history of Mothman. Like there's a cult following. There's like a festival or I don't know if a festival is the right word. But like a big celebration for Mothman every year in Point Pleasant, West Virginia. Yeah, he's beloved. OK, that doesn't mean that doesn't mean you'd want to be haunted by him though. Don't let me taint you. Sometimes I'm a trickster.
00:17:25
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Mothman is a bat-like winged cryptid that was first documented in Point Pleasant, West Virginia, prior to the collapse of the Silver Bridge over the Ohio River in 1966. The sightings have been reported ever since. According to legend, the creature is 7-8 feet tall and has a 10-foot wingspan and nests in caves.
00:17:52
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Mothman tends to be spotted just prior to catastrophe. Oh, shit. And then he's gone. Oh, snap. So you'll see him for three weeks or six weeks leading up to this terrible bridge collapse. This bridge collapse was devastating. It was in the middle of winter. Tons of people died. It was one of the worst
00:18:21
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things that's ever happened in West Virginia and in terms of life loss and preventable and all the things and just overall inability to do anything about it when it was happening because of the freezing temperatures and everything. Oh my God. And then he's gone. So are we saying he's the cause of it or he's predicting or warning that it's coming?
00:18:51
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like to believe that Mothman and Mothman is one that I did actually grow up with. I like to believe that Mothman is there to warn you. OK, OK. Mm hmm. That still doesn't mean you want to see him. Yeah. Oh, choice number two for you is the Grafton monster. The Grafton monster was first spotted in West Virginia in the 1950s.
00:19:21
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and is described as a massive bipedal creature with short fur. It's estimated to weigh between 1,000 and 1,500 pounds and boasts broad shoulders. Its head sits low in the front of its body, making it appear headless from behind. And it is believed to eat livestock. Oh my God. Okay.
00:19:50
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On one hand, Mothman doesn't eat things like livestock and sounds not that scary, but he's a bad omen. And then on the other end, there's this beast that eats livestock. I have animals at home. And it's huge and also looks helpless from behind. Yeah, that's creepy AF.
00:20:14
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Oh, I'm gonna have to go with Mothman even though I'd be like by soon as I see him. I need clarity on how often the Grafton monster needs to feed like if it's a once a year thing. Yeah.
00:20:34
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I think I would take the Grafton Monster. I suspect it eats more than that, but no one told me any otherwise, so I would like to believe that. If he eats once a year and then hibernates the rest, I'll take him. And also, you don't have livestock. You have domesticated animals. I know, but those are even easier.
00:20:58
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But those are like snacks. But they taste different. Yeah, they taste different. And they're just like a little snacky snack, like not worth the effort. Yeah, you need to be more concerned about eagles with those cats. OK. And hawks. And coyotes. That's the big thing here in LA is coyotes. Yeah, I was still an Appalachia in my mornings.
00:21:26
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. So you're going Mothman. Yeah, I'm going Mothman. You are having a very haunted day. Your next two options are the Raven Mocker, which according to Cherokee legend, the Raven Mocker is a shape shifting bigfoot standing seven foot tall with black
00:21:56
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fur and solid white eyes. Ew, creepy. This type of big book, big book. I like big books and I can not lie. This type of big foot is believed to inhabit Southwest Virginia.
00:22:19
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and is able to shift into any animal. It can also take on the appearance of an old man or woman. In its human form, the Raven Mocker can lurk among unsuspecting people and eat their hearts from their chests without leaving a mark. No, thank you. Hard pass. Your second option.
00:22:51
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Uh oh. Is the silver giant. The silver giant is similar to a bear and can run as easily on its two legs as it can on four. When standing, it is between nine and 11 feet tall. While its fur is generally dark, it has a silver streak of hair running down its back. Oh.
00:23:20
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That one sounds way better. Between the choice of the two of them, I'd take the seasick crocodile. I don't know why I've decided to sing in this episode. I know. It's Briae. All right. Here is your next set of choices, and this might be
00:23:50
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Your, hold on, hold on. This is not your last two. Okay. The last ones, we've got three that you get to choose from.
00:24:01
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Also, I miscounted on the initial thing, so it's good we're doing it with just lifestyle. Numbers are not our forte. I went hard on this one. Well, because this one I actually knew things about. My research was like, oh, I know this. This is correct.
00:24:24
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or I've been told this my whole life. I don't know it as in I scientifically studied it and have seen or experienced them, but I've heard these stories my whole life. Okay. Choice number one for this set is the Cherokee Death Cat. This cat-like beast is said to look like a lion and measures approximately four feet tall at its front shoulder and nine feet long from its head to tail.
00:24:53
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Okay. Let me say that again. Do you need, do you need me to re-say that? Cause I feel like that was. I'm picturing a really lopsided thing in my head. So it's four feet tall and it's nine feet long.
00:25:09
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Okay. Okay. Yeah. The way that I worded that this was worded was kind of funny. It sounded like the front was short and the back was really high. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like the butt was just really sticking up. Like how a cat stretches and sticks a butt in the air. That's what I was picturing. I'm like, well, that's weird. How do they walk?
00:25:32
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You're like, I might choose this one then. Just to see. This creature can leap extremely far and is an expert climber navigating the trees with ease. It feeds on large livestock like cows and horses and focuses its attack directly on their jugular veins. Oh, that doesn't sound fun. No, poor livestock.
00:26:01
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Your other option is a grim. These red-eyed beasts guard some Appalachian cemeteries. Legend has it that settlers throughout the region believed that burying the family dog alive in the cemetery would mean the dog's spirit would morph into a grim, a black dog with red eyes.
00:26:28
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and that the dog would then protect the graveyard. Who's burying their dog alive? I'm like horrified by that. Good Lord. There are probably a lot of things the settlers did that we don't agree with. Yeah. OK, so I have to choose between those two.
00:27:00
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Um, I feel like I'm going to go with the dog, the dog, the, the grim. Yeah, the grim. Yeah. Okay. You're not here to death cat. It's a little much. I mean, it's a little much. This one, you have three to choose from.
00:27:29
Speaker
Are you ready? Okay. I'm ready. Okay. So your first option, wait, let me double check that I didn't already say this one. Okay. I did it. I keep confusing two of these because in my mind, they do similar things. Okay. The when to go. The when to go is- When to go? When to go? Yeah. When to go. When to go. So this is all when to go.
00:27:58
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W-E-N-D-I-G-O. Okay. Okay. Got it. So this is also kind of a famous one. People that know about any of this have probably heard of. Some of these I hadn't totally heard of. I'd heard things about them, but it took reading it to remember. Some of these I read it and was like, ooh, goosebumps before I liked the name. And I was like, ah, I forgot about you goosebumps.
00:28:24
Speaker
Okay, so the wendigo is a creature sometimes referred to as an evil spirit that is said to be 15 feet tall with a body that is thin with the skin pulled so tight that its bones are visible. Many native legends. It is a spirit of greed, gluttony, and insatiable hunger. To be clear, I was laughing at your ew. Not about
00:28:55
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the spirit of greed, gluttony, and insatiable hunger. It is a flesh-eating beast that is considered most active during the colder months, and its presence is easily felt and smelled. It has been described as having a distinct smell of rot and decay due to its skin being ripped and unclean.
00:29:28
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Yeah, this is one that I grew up hearing about. Sometimes I hear stories about Appalachia and I'm like, oh God, no, no, please.
00:29:44
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that where people do the right things, but you're not supposed to acknowledge either. That isn't in the official rules, but one of the rules of Appalachia is you're not supposed to acknowledge any of these things. You're not supposed to speed up your walk. You're not supposed to speak to them. You're supposed to just pretend that they do not exist, which is why you don't look into the trees or sing or whistle.
00:30:08
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Oh my God, oh my God. Yeah, so that's like the unwritten part of it. Okay, sorry, I'm like shifty in my seat now. It produces an overwhelming urge of greed and insatiable want. Most notably, it is not one to chase or seek after its prey. Instead, it uses a terrifying mimic cry.
00:30:35
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skill. It often mimics human voices, screams, loved ones, or anything that might, I'm getting goosebumps, entice its victims to come to it. In some cases, it is believed that the Wendigo is a spirit that can possess other humans and fill them with greed and selfishness, turning them into Wendigos as well.
00:31:04
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Thank you. If you hear anything about mimics, those are ones that most people know about, and especially if you look into any of this, that is like the wendigos. Sounds creepy. They'll come up behind you and they'll go,
00:31:26
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And then you won't hear I have so many goosebumps. You won't hear any footsteps. But you'll then hear the person is next to you. And they'll say hello. And you just have to like my face has goosebumps now and you just have to pretend that it isn't there. And just doing whatever you're doing. It is so terrifying. It's like,
00:31:56
Speaker
Yeah. OK. Not to taint your opinion, you might choose the one to go. Might be your particular breed of haunting for this option. Let's see. OK. Your second option, and remember there are three for this one, is a spear finger. So a spear finger is a Cherokee legend of a shape shifting, stone skinned witch.
00:32:25
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with a long knife in place of one of her fingers. She often was described as an old woman, which she would take the form of to convince Cherokee children that she was their grandmother. She would sit with them and brush their hair until they fell asleep. And then she would kill them with her spear finger. Oh my God.
00:32:53
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She had a love of human livers, which she would extract from the bodies of those she killed. It was said she left no visible scars on her victims. She carried her own heart in her hand to protect it, as it was her one weakness. The legend goes she was captured and defeated
00:33:18
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with the help of several birds that carried the information to defeat her. Though she has been destroyed, sometimes you still hear her cackles and songs throughout the mountains. Oh my God. No. And your third choice is the moon-eyed people.
00:33:47
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The moon-eyed people were short, pale-skinned, bearded humanoids with large, bright eyes. Their eyes were so sensitive to light that they were completely nocturnal. They were not mythical creatures, but they were considered a separate race of people by some. As they were viewed as a threat by the tribes, they would
00:34:15
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I wish I had read this well before because I would have switched that to cultural groups. Sorry, everyone. They were chased out of their caves on the night of a full moon. With the light of the moon too bright for their eyes to handle, they were said to have scattered to other parts of Appalachia. Several early structures were sometimes related to the moon-eyed people and some date back to 400 BCE.
00:34:43
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Isn't it just BC now? I think so. Sorry, breaking the tension that I'm building with my voice. There are speculations and theories suggesting these people were early European settlers who arrived far before Columbus discovered
00:35:09
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quotations discovered the Americas. Allegedly discovered.
Recap and Dedication
00:35:15
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For those of you who couldn't see me and didn't also see me roll my eyes, it's loud. So what are you taking? Spear finger, the Wendigo, or the moon-eyed people?
00:35:29
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of moon-eyed people. Hands down. They do have a really scary name, though. Oh, they definitely do. But like, way less scary actions than the other two. Very, very targeted, those other two. Yeah, and plus the moon-eyed people, it sounds like, hey, we're going to have a party. Party by the moonlight.
00:36:00
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Yeah, they're just trying to live their peaceful lives. I know. I get it. I get you, moon eyes. You can hear redheads and they just couldn't be out in the sun. I don't know. I didn't meet them. I didn't meet them either. And they most likely were. Well, Christina, you are you are taking with you the hauntings of the moon eyed people.
00:36:32
Speaker
The Grims, the Silver Giant, Mothman, Bigfoot, and Wolfman. Sounds like a party. Most people aren't going to want to go to. Maybe everyone will just have some green tea and it'll chill them all right out.
00:37:00
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Yeah. Let's just have some hot tea and chill the fuck out, guys. Here's a joint. Oh, take some chill pause. Oh, my God, I love it.
00:37:13
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That's a lot of some of those mythical creatures. Oh my God, you'd have to get a vat at that point. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was fun, Sarah. Thank you for bringing the folklore from your side of the country. I have heard of not a lot of them. Yeah. Good luck when you have your family reunion in two weeks.
00:37:42
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I know. I will maybe not go into the woods at night. I won't acknowledge anything that's weird. Don't look into the woods at night either. Oh, God. Well, before we close out, you guys, I know we're all here for fun and laughter and silly things, but we just wanted to take a moment to thank and dedicate this episode to probably our number one fan who we met in season one.
00:38:10
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We
Closing and Promotions
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actually asked her if we could do a little interview of her and ask her questions because we wanted to make our podcast better and she had a lot of really amazing insight and she passed away this past week. So Mandy, this episode was for you and we were thinking about you the whole episode. I didn't think I'd get choked up. It's probably not helping that I'm sitting here choked up and you can see it.
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Anyways, thank you everyone for joining us on Laughing with Gingers today. We are so happy to have you listening to our silly podcast. And if you like the show, give us a follow rate and review on your preferred podcast platform. And follow us on Instagram at Laughing with Gingers. You can also let us know if you have any Appalachian folklore stories you would like to share.
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or experiences that you would like to share, because I know most people that have been in the area long enough do. It's hard not to acknowledge something when it's going, you know, hello? Right behind you. And get active.
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