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Episode 47 - The Good, The Bad And the Ugly #4
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Paul and Martin (co-Mayors of ADHDville) update us on their ADHD lives. This was recorded back in July and I cant for the life of me remember what's going on... so we can all find out together eh?
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Musical Surprises and Generous Strangers
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oh Back and but fuck it in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room. Back in the room.
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It's weird. Well, if you if if you listen to this and you don't know, ah I also do like ADHD albums or at least come out of my ADHD brain and make my ADHD brain really happy. So I kind of hope it makes other people's ADHD brains happy too. um So yeah, so I i ah do all these albums and I shove them up.
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on on the interwebs, on the magic cloud. And I got a little bing on my on my phone. It was on Friday, I think it was. And it said, yeah, someone's just bought your albums. and and like And I clicked on it. And it was like all of them. It was all of them. Your back catalogue, Martin West's back catalogue.
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Right. that that There is a back catalogue. I think there's about nine albums and then another incidental music one. So it's like nine things. And there is there is only one there that is actually
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you you actually have to buy right and then all the all all the others are free. They're just free, right? But but yeah if if you want to pay, there is and there is there was an option. So you can put in ah an amount and you actually put in an amount.
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for all of them so it was like oh so so he paid full price for the album and then he paid money for the for the three ones and i was like what that's crazy that's great that's brilliant the only other person who's done um who's done that is is my own is is my own brother right okay so i ah don't i don't um so he didn't buy them twice did he No, under an assumed name. um But no, he he is he is all he is awfully generous and he um and he buys all my albums and he he he pays a a he digs into his pocket. So that's really sweet of him. But this guy is a complete stranger. He lives in... Oh, I've forgotten now.
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where well but Where did he live? He lives in, I think he's in, I want to say he's in Brazil, but um somewhere like light light like that. But i yeah, there we go. Fabulous. that was ah ah know so so with that ah So with that little boost to the ego, yeah welcome to ADHDville.
Meet the Hosts: Paul and Martin
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kit chi chi ka chin kaching Hello, I'm Paul Thompson. I was diagnosed with the combined ADHD just nine months ago.
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And I'm Martin West and I was diagnosed with ADHD 2013. There we go. Quite a ways. Quite a ways of going the distant past.
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ah So anyway, we're too we were two mates who buy coicids after 39, nearly 40 years actually of friendship. Discover what the co-ADHD is, hurrah! that was It's really important to say this is an entertainment podcast about adult ADHD and does not substitute for individualized advice from qualified health professionals. No, no, no. So do not take any advice from us, especially me.
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which is here is a kind of all-inclusive ADHD punk bench with room for everyone including your doppelgangers, your alter egos, your buddy Dublaze, and your chaperones and even your best buddies. I know, I know. Yeah, still, yeah, still here. Great. So grab your jetpacks, your pedilos, yes, base hoppers, or any other transportation methods. And let us take you to. We've created in our minds.
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Where we like to explore different parts of the ADH and the D. Indeed. We start off as always here in the Town Hall in the Mayor's Office where we the joint Mayors of ADHD take care of business.
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And this is going to be a good, bad, and downright ugly episode. Right. So let's... So let's... Just delve. Yeah, so that's where we kind of talk about our ADHD lives. We delve. We catch it up. We delve. So let's...
The Tidiness Obsession
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So we should bring the car around the front. And then we're going to... Where are we going to head off to? I think it was at at the beach, Martin.
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We're going down to the beach this week. It's the summer. It's the summer. Of course. It's all south for summer. Yeah, we're going to get on. I've already packed my buddy smugglers. Yeah, ah I've got my speedos and flip flops. So let's find the car. There it is. Great. Come on over.
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Oh.
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Retail. Reverb tail. It's almost too short that bit. Could you repeat it? I was quite liking it. All right. ah Okay. i' answer that All right, boys. From the top. From the top. Yeah. Lovely. Lovely. Oh.
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That's good. Nice, nice. Yeah, so I think, um where do we start? With the good. Who wants to go first? yeah You go first. All right, I've had, I'd say my ADHD world, and there's been some good stuff actually. So um I'm going through, I'm i'm attempting a thing that has only happened a few times in my entire life.
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And that is where, I know, right right? Every room in the house, every room in the house is tidy. Okay. Every room is tidy. All at once. Right. And it only happens when I'm selling a house, you know, like when you have people coming over to view the house and it goes through all the rooms and it all looks perfect. Yeah.
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That's the only other times that my house has is it has ever been like... Okay, okay.
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Nice. Because what does happen is I'll go, right, i've I've got to clear the house. So I'll start in one room, right? And I move on to the next. And move and note and it will take me like, I don't know, a week or so two, right? Yeah. be Like this is a deep, deep clean. you' You're deep cleaning the carpets, right? Every single inch of it is getting washed, scrubbed, dusted.
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everything right and you're throwing stuff out left right and center love that love that so it isn't just like tidying it's like my massive deep deep clean um and you're doing a repair repair work along the way so it's all so that room looks gorgeous right beautiful get get get the real estate photographers in because this this like room's done in instagram ready Yeah, absolutely. And then it's like being beach ready.
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but be beach ready You know, you've done your bikini line, you know, you've had your done. You're beach ready. You've got you, you've bought a new pair of speedos. And yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah.
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ah Yeah. um yeah yeah So what so what happens what has happened is that once you've done that room, you go on to the rest of them. But by the time you've got to the last room, the first room is already screwed up. you It's messed up. What said to my mate the other day was like is that you move all your stuff from one room to another.
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Yeah. And you go, i i'll I'll just sort that out. Right. And then you go to that room and then you move all that stuff to a different room. Right. And then that and that stuff just moves around the house. Yeah. until Oh, anyway, so I'm attempting to get the whole thing done. Right. Yep. Don't get in there. I was just going to say. Is no go the news.
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So you get my like but girlfriend, she's obsessively, um house she's very tidy, obsessively. She says she's not, right my world, she's obsessive, but she's probably not. She's probably just normal, maybe, but ah she but she has, she has, a like a ah but she has a, there was even more obsessively tidy. You go around, a thing out of place, not a thing, not i like a,
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things out and just unbelievable and I I said to her because we have a quite good relationship with so relationship so I could if she likes it but I'd like provide I reckon you've got like some kind of corner of your house that you keep dirty it's like tell me I think everyone I think everyone has to have like this like even if you're sort like somewhere that is just you don't tell anyone how quite how dirty it is and it's obscenely dirty it could be like a little tiny angle in a cup in a cup of the but it's there she's no no no no a everything in my house is not a single thing i said what about your husband she's a cattle farmer
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But when your husband, Silvio, hello Silvio, when he comes home and he's like, especially in the winters, like covered in mud and stuff, for you, you're looking at him, he's like, oh, fantastic, like fetish, like something to clean, yes. Something really to clean, not just like moving a couple of specks of dust, you know, from how she usually organizes her house, something like real.
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And from a girlfriend, it's her thing is her car. It's her car. The house is spotless. Her car is unbelievable. Right. That's my provocation. Even the tidiest people have a little secret place that they have to keep untidy.
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ah Just leaving it there, putting it out there.
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All right. All right. All right. So, yeah.
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OK. Oh, you know, I wonder if it's because like no one no one goes in the car like you might have people around in the house. Yeah. See, OK, my
City Life Stimulation: Palermo vs New York
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car is is. Yeah, it really needs to be played, but I'm the only one in it. I'm the only one ever goes in.
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So I don't have to deal with someone else's judgment if they look in my car. because yeah yeah is there Is there comfort in that? there is Because this is for me, I like a bit of chaos.
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and know No, I look at it and kind of go, fuck, you know, Jesus Christ. I look, you know, like, I think, Jesus, like like if if I'm parked up somewhere and someone walks past and looks in, it looks like that I that i live there, you know? by I live there. Yeah. Yeah. I once saw a couple of weeks ago, I saw a guy at the supermarket. He parked up and in a posh car as well. It was like a Mercedes. Literally, you know, the the the shelf at the front of the car, you know, behind the
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very well, there's a shelf that normally everyone keeps clean piles of paperwork. hu And I i was like curious, like, who is this guy? And I found out through a friend, he's actually he's actually a um commercialist, he's a yeah people, people are doing is an accountant. Apparently, he's an accountant. So I don't want that accountant working for me.
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No, no, no. Yeah, I've been in accountant's offices where there are piles of paper everywhere. Right. Right. That's borrowing. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It is a little. So that's my good. So what is your house at this right at this leisure, this moment, your house is spotless everywhere.
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No, no, no, I'm i'm getting there. So okay as kitchen one, two rooms. So I've done three rooms, four rooms. I'm doing this room that's behind me ah today. i've I've got to get that done today and into tomorrow.
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um And then I've got, i was i've I've worked on the master bedroom. Yeah, so I've i've got two rooms left. why And then it's going to be, can I actually manage to maintain it? So yeah that's the thing, isn't it? let's say Can I keep it going? How long is that going to last? For me, if I got to that point, it wouldn't feel like it was me. It wouldn't feel like it was my house.
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anymore, but that's just me. You know, I, I like a bit of, well, you can probably tell from behind me. I like, like a lot of stuff clutter. Someone would call it clutter. hu Um, I like to call it organized mess. Um, I just like a lot of stuff around eclectic, eclectic stuff. I like, I don't like, I couldn't ever do minimalism.
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I think, I have this bizarre thought, which is, um Am I going to lie on my deathbed and kind of go, I never managed to get my house in ah in a finished place or any kind of place. There was always something like, oh I never got round. I never actually managed to kind of sort everything out. I know that that's a really bizarre thing to do. It's not actually like because I had to sit there weren't wondering. no
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I had an argument with my girlfriend once, because she's a bit more obsessive than I am, shall we say. And it can be a discussion with conflict, not too much, a nice right amount of conflict, discussion, heated debate, shall we call it. And I was said to her, well,
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you know if you you know you're on your death bed imagine you're death bed and you're you know you're know you're like you're last you're last kind of breath oh at least my house was always tidy and i said yes never burn it's never never gonna happen so why obsess about it so much me right Yeah. Whereas me, where the house is is always untidy, I'd be lying on my death bed going, ah what why couldn't I just get my crap together? Couldn't I just get my crap together so my house was tidy? Yeah. Yeah. So I totally get where she's coming coming from. Right. OK. Because I actually do sit there and think on my death bed, I'm gonna be um going to be thinking about this but my house and how tidy it is.
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Yes, mate. Fucking crazy.
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and Oh, hang on. Hang on. ah Yeah, it's you, right? It's me. Hello. What's your, what's your, what's your, what's your ADHD? Good thing. Good.
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and turning the badge but onto a bit later. good bit I've been in Palermo, unless you got back yesterday, been Palermo for a month. And the last time I was in Palermo, I lived in Palermo for three years, up until a year ago. The last time I was in Palermo, I didn't have an ADHD um diagnosis.
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So now okay so this Paul, he goes back to Palermo, he spends four weeks there, and um ah he realizes it's not good for him. It is, but it isn't. It is because Palermo is right full of stimulation. Everywhere you go, site every all your senses are sensory overload. right um and so I'll give you an example. A couple of days ago I was in a like the bar, restaurant district of Palermo. There's a little place called the Vucheria. I was sitting there and with some friends, really nice chat and eating really amazing food. you know like
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a class of wine. And then a in a group you know kind of um starts playing really cool music. There's like a DJ mixing over the top of ah of his It was like, um, improvising an electric guitar, really cool vibes, everything. I
Gardening and Cultural Insights
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was like, Oh, this is great. And, and then this, but all of the time, but what's the, what's the problem with that is that it is amazing. I can't deal with it. It's just mention after three years. Pay too much. And it's like said.
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Mm. Is it. But it it is fabulous and I. It is, you know, with emotions like positive emotions, I mean, um you could see things or hear things or have a conversation with some. Be total joy.
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And that is great. So but when it was, it was fabulous, but I'm glad to be back to be honest. So yeah. um Yeah. nice and the other ah a Kind of linked to that actually, as I was working, I was actually building i'll do so um strangely.
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I got kind of tired, um, working on computer and usual kind of stuff. And I was ah kind of physical exertion. And, um, I was offered this chance to, to help build a garden in Palermo and I took it and I worked like a dog and I loved it. I really, I really missed that kind of physical exertion. I built a little low wall, which I'd never built before.
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I was really, really cool. And I worked with this amazing guy called Silvio, who was a bit older than me, really fit, um and an expert in building walls as well. and Ended up working really, really well together. We had such a laugh. um A couple of occasions he took me to his, takes his lunch with other builders from Palermo, all talking in dialect.
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which is complete it sounds like arabic it doesn't sound a bit like italian at all and having a real off it was brilliant i absolutely adored it so it's just like one example of how palermo is just on one hand is just, I adore it and love it so much. On the other hand, it's like, it's just too much. It's just too much for me. so Yeah. too much are Too much. But did you, what came to mind with to me about that is did you find that in, cause we've worked together in in London, right? And you've worked in New York. Did you find like as a place for an ADHD, yeah is it good New York or is it just overstimulating or?
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Yeah, working in New York. What is it like working in New York? It is like that there is a constant buzz to the place. Like it is it is always on. So and which is, as you're saying, is quite an exciting place to be. You know, like literally the craziest crazy stuff goes on all the time. Like you can literally just stand in one place on a street corner and you'll just see totally nuts stuff go on. Right. Right. In front of you. No one ever said that New York was boring, right? It's definitely not boring. Um, but yeah so yeah, you, you, I liked being in that place, but yeah, it's,
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it is quite exhausting. So when you kind of go home, exactly you you kind of like, yeah, ah yeah. I think as you get older, it gets harder to yeah to kind of be in those kind of spaces. Cause I feel like probably from what you're saying, New York is the same. It felt like to me, Palermo, you don't,
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get to decide how much stimulation you get. It's like the city is for you. hu And that is exhausting. It's like you if you feel like you need some time out, you can't.
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Yeah,
ADHD Coping Mechanisms
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I think most ah new New Yorkers will have this thing where they go where they get to a point, they go, I have to get out, I have to get out of here. And they'll go somewhere upstate, who knows, wherever, they'll just get out of of of New York. And they'll be out for like, I don't know, a weekend, maybe a week or whatever.
00:23:54
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And they'll spend the entire time kind of going, the pizza here is crap. And like they'll say, I went into to do some shopping and random people are saying hi to me. And that's weird. Why are they saying hello? Why are people being nice? I don't like it.
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And then yeah they'll get back on the in in their car, drive back to New York and go, oh, thank God, I'm back here again. Oh, yeah. Yeah. ah But you you until you get older, maybe, be like you like you were saying, until you get older, anything. Yeah. And then you're kind of going, I want some space. up but I want yeah ah bought a garden and a backyard. And I want to sit out and have a coffee and look at trees. Flowers, flowers.
00:24:54
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Pretty, pretty flowers. That's what I want, isn't it, Gavner? Grass. That feel of like, I like, like, you know, those simple things like barefoot.
00:25:11
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You know, you don't get that, you don't get that in London, New York, I suspect, or London. Yeah, but it's the same in London, isn't it? It's the same, we did that as well. There's a lot more people like trying to escape it, more and more trying to escape cities, like bugger this. Oh, get it out. Get it out, get it out. Shipping, shipping out, whatever that means. All right, let's shift to the bad. But in order to do that, we need your cowbell of change.
00:25:46
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Oh, shit. Remember that? I took it to Palermo and I left it there. What? Yes. That's like the thing. Yeah. I took the bell to Palermo and left it there. OK, why? Oh, no. Who takes a cow bell? I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to take a cow bell with me. More cow bell, you thought.
00:26:14
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Well, it's more than a cowboy. It's got a beer opener on the other end. It's a combined cowbell. It's a classic. Yeah. It's a combined cowbell and beer opener. Beer bottle opener. And you thought, you know what? I'm going to get to Palermo and there's going to be no beer openers. I'm going to be screwed. Exactly. So I'm going to take it. But I did buy it in...
00:26:43
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All right. All right. So, and it was used, how it was, it was used in Palermo before I came here. It was used as like a baro clock kind of sounding device. Oh, really? Yeah. So we're we're back to Palermo. It's like so it ready.
00:27:07
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All right. So it's it's gone back to its spiritual home. Yeah, is that exactly. Exactly. Yeah. ah But I forgot it. I nearly brought it back with me and I i decided I should I should make a decision to leave it there. Anyway, ah all that means is I have to do it. I have to go ding, ding, ding. Is that good enough? Is that right? Ding, ding. It will change it would do. umll I'll find another bell. OK. Yeah.
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but before the next yeah before the next good bad and the ugly says another bell great hells all right yeah all right so bad bad what what what what has been bad ADHD bad um oh boy You know what, it's it's actually been mostly good. Oh, that's fantastic. It's like, yeah, yeah, it has been, although, you know, like if, ah ah yeah, I'm sure after I could come off this, I'll be like, oh, God, yeah, no, that was what am I doing? um You know what, the heat, right? I've been really bad about, about
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registering that it's effing hot out there. OK, yes. I've not been drinking enough water for one. been said to myself, yeah, I'll mow the lawn. It's like 200 degrees out out there. And, you know, animals and wildlife are just bursting into flames. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spontaneously. And I'll just say, yeah, yeah, i'll I'll just go and do that thing. And then wonder why I'm I'm expiring. Right? Yeah, I thought what? Yeah, I had that in Palermo as well. My problem is during the summer, I like a cold beer.
00:29:00
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And, uh, so yeah, guess what? Gold beer is just not only bad cause it's got alcohol bad for hydration. It's also basically liquid carbohydrates. So it's bad for my, my stomach as well, which is, you know, even if I was building for a month, I did lose a bit of weight. I lost about three or four kilos, uh, building. Yeah, which is good, which was good, but I did find out that actually there's a
00:29:33
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The ability that like four or five o'clock in the afternoon, you're absolutely. And the first thing that comes to mind is like in your body as fast as you can possibly get them in there. So
Work Conflicts and Cultural Differences in Italy
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there was like a push pull, but if you know, rich between um losing weight and putting it on again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah, so there's nothing bad for you at all. Well, I mean, yeah, there was there was that bad. um Went down to, um oh, we know what i I did do. I went to see the Foo Fighters last night. Uh huh. um And that's that's just a good thing. But I just remembered it. OK, OK.
00:30:29
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Right. So, uh, come on, come on. Bad, bad. It's supposed to be thinking about bad stuff. there we go Usually it's supposed to be really easy. It's supposed to be easy to think of bad stuff. No, that's on the other. It's quite actually know think of anything bad. That's good. I like that behavior.
00:30:47
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Yeah. Yeah. Although it's, although perhaps it's just because I, it just shows lack of preparedness, I think. Okay. Which is also bad. There we go. There you go. That's the nearest thing you'll get. That's the nearest thing we're going to get from bad. Just not being prepared for thinking about something. Yeah.
00:31:13
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Yeah, how about how how about you? How about you? I well i had a bad and it was it was the bad was again linked to to Palermo, the people that I was doing the work for. Not very nice people, as it turns out, and I was breaking my ass. I was like a dog day in, day out. And um at one point I said, look, I can't work with you anymore. I'm sorry, I'm i'm out of here. And I shipped on out and stayed with another friend of mine in Palermo. um and ah And I leave, that they about two days later, they they asked me to go back. And I said, okay, but I want you to, because I was actually working for money. Some of it, I said, look, before I come back, I want
00:32:13
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otherwise I'm not coming back. And the only reason why we're back to work for it, because actually out of personal pride in just finishing what I'd started it of kind of put it into context of ADHD, I realized that I wasn't doing it because I was people pleasing. I'd like given that up.
00:32:34
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is just trying to please them and like thinking, oh, you know, feeling guilty and whatsoever of that, thirty that like abandoned the project. But it was it was it was a bad time. It was a really bad time. I was really, really, really angry about it, to be honest. But it didn't spoil the time I had there. It didn't spoil it.
00:32:57
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But, um, yeah, I just, it just, as I say, this is the first time we're back to post-diagnosis for ADHD. And just having that, like keeping in mind the people pleasing bit, you know, that keeping under control.
00:33:15
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Yeah, that was it really, but y'all weren't dog. And actually as I said before, I did really enjoy that exertion.
00:33:24
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right so yeah that was my bad that was my bad all right cool all right uh all right we we'll uh we'll move on silently to silently ugly um yeah there's Yeah, as I said, because if you haven't had a bad thing, they haven't really had had an ah and ugly particularly. So yeah, I think it has been an an ADHD, ugly, free week. Yeah. Kaboom. Kaboom. Kaboom. Yeah. I'm going to think ugly. I mean, that that bad thing did turn ugly. It was said right at high
00:34:17
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bit of a cold, blown argument, you know, that you, you know, you generally in the north, in fact, if, if sit on a serious note, if you had the same argument in the north, you probably wouldn't be friends with them ever again. And just like, I'm out of here and never want to hear from you. I'll see you again. It Palermo just completely normal.
00:34:46
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It's like, okay, after a couple of hours, it's forgotten, which actually is a nice part of it, but it's and yeah not, you know. That sounds really stressful. Yeah, it is.
00:34:58
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how how is How is your rapid swearing in Italian? i heard Or do do you end do you end up having to revert to English? I don't know. It depends. it If it's angry, if it's just angry, I could still Swear and and make myself reasonably I can articulate myself pretty well in Italian if I'm like blowing steam Blowing off steam. Yeah, if I'm like really losing my shit it am It just sounds really weird Italian it comes out as English Right because I'm thinking I'm thinking it's hard to
00:35:47
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ah Well, I think it's, yeah, because in my head, you're you're having to think of the words more in Italian than you do in English. so Yeah. whereas So if you lose your shit, as you as you as you say, that that cognitive part has gone, so your access to the to the Italian libraries. Yeah.
00:36:16
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yeah try and and yeah and yeahre yeah because you go back to the You haven't got time to make the filter work anymore. just like It just comes from your gut and you know straight out of your mouth. yeah And you have an English gut, Paul, an English gut. This is there an English gut. But i do I do think in Italian now, I know it's you might be just slightly concerned about that, but I do think in Italian mostly.
00:36:45
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Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. After 20 years. So yeah. So yeah, but, um, luckily, I mean, it turned out okay in the end, even if I had to like, you know, I, well, I had to use a lot of patience because it they, she didn't get any at all. And I just had to like, you know, help the situation along, you know, kicking and screaming as much as I could being really, really, really, really patient and just get the and just get out basically. Right. Paid. And I was gonna say, did, did you get paid? Yeah, I did. Yeah. I was literally there yesterday morning. All right.
00:37:36
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until their yesterday morning and quite relieved. It felt like they were in prison a little bit anyway. Right. Do they tip? No, it tends to tip generally, not even in restaurants. No, right. It's just different. Yeah,
Frustrations and Farewells
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generally, if you pay a price and it's the price on the menu or whatever price you've agreed, that is already, everything is already included.
00:38:06
Speaker
Yeah. Right. cause Because if I had a bunch of guys coming around doing a a small wall, ye or or for you, it's just a normal height wall because you're quite short.
00:38:21
Speaker
and
00:38:24
Speaker
I had to get that in there. Squeeze that. Squeeze that. Yeah, I would I would be expected to like I would provide drinks so that there might be water. You know, like I'd make sure that that that that everyone was like fine. ah and But that was yeah, that was part of my agreement. I was paid a certain amount.
00:38:51
Speaker
Right. and But I also said that I wanted ah the fridge should be kept pretty healthy, healthily full whilst I'm working. All right. Yeah. So, uh, yeah. And then I would probably pay about 20% above. So if it was like, if it was like a, if it was a thousand, I would, I would give like 200, 200 extra. Yeah. um But obviously see that's the huge, the huge culture difference. And it's something I love Italy. I love Italy so much, ah but there's one really crap part of Italy is
00:39:30
Speaker
Everyone tries to, when it comes to money, it's really bad. And people, even as my job as a graphic designer, my normal job, they will try, you know after the job is finished, they'll try and pretend that they weren't 100% happy with the job. Not just because they because they weren't happy with it, just because they want to pay less. And it's just a game. Everyone plays here and it's shit. It's shit. And I've called out people, I've called out Italians on it.
00:40:00
Speaker
on a couple of occasions. You're shit in Italian. Yeah. I've said to them, look, I'm not Italian. I don't play that game. Literally said those words. Right. Right. I'm a poor peasant. I'm a poor peasant. There's that dishonesty when it really dishonest. Sorry, Italians. But you are. I just for them, it's a gag.
00:40:30
Speaker
Right. Yeah. All right. All right. So I think we've kind of got through that. Um, so I think, and unless you've got anything else we can jump back in the car. Yeah. No, no, don't get back in the car. Yes. no too
00:40:51
Speaker
cool all right so um uh let's head head to the post the post off office office oleo um yes let's go there now why not who cares let's go fuck it yeah we're back back in this dingy ass uh uh post office i never like being in the post office It's always that weird. and Yeah. There was a strange smell.
00:41:28
Speaker
Yeah. It's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Post offices are not, I mean, I mean, they're federal, they're government institutions, right? So they, so, so there's no, there's no money for soft furnishings. No. For, for nice colored paint to work.
00:41:52
Speaker
um Yeah, so this is the point where you go on and say... I go on and say, I do, I don't know. I say that ah your feedback is vital to us and we read older yeah we read all of your comments and we might read yours out on a future podcast.
00:42:14
Speaker
Right. Yes. Yes. Yes. yeah Well, we have had some nice, nice comments, but can I find them when I need them? No, I can't. Well, I don't know about you, Martin, but it's really hot here in Italy at the moment. And my brain is not functioning as it should. It feels like, um, yeah. my
00:42:39
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tea
00:42:42
Speaker
I will say, because you're, I don't know whether you're aware of this, but your mic's been cutting in and out here and there. So there might be some for, yeah, so I might have to go over and then just add in some words. Really? In your blank space. Yeah. But that could be quite funny.
00:43:06
Speaker
That could depends. Depends on the words. It could be me we trying to work out what, what you were saying. And then I'll just kind of say it over the top and then I'll, I'll preface it up the front of this podcast and say, yeah, Paul's mic was a bit Dodge in places. So I've just overdubbed him. Okay. I'll just say, yeah.
00:43:30
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Although I think um I might just put words in your mouth. um So hopefully by the time if you've yeah you've listened to this podcast and you've got to this point, let us know in the comments whether that was good. Is it really going to be cutting out? Mike's been cutting out.
00:43:55
Speaker
Yeah, just kind of here and there. ah And then as it was happening, I was thinking, I was thinking, oh, yeah, I could just drop in here, just overdub me saying your your words in ah and know okay in and ah in ah in in in an Italian accent, in a stupid Italian accent. That'd be great. Okay. All right. Let's see how that comes out.
00:44:20
Speaker
See what happens. Let us know in the comments what you thought of of that. um All right. So that just leaves me ah to ah good lord. I've got off the tab. There we go. I've got to find the outro button. There we go. Click that. There we go. All right. We're off.
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