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Episode 111: Beyond the Darkness featuring Mark Hensley
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Mark Hensley is back and they’ve brought a recent discovery with Beyond the Darkness (1979). Prolific Italian filmmaker Joe D’Amato sends us down a psycho-sexual path through taxidermy and lost love. After the death of his girlfriend, a man preserves the body forever and this upsets his “wet nurse” who placates her anger by offering him sexual favors and cleaning up his messy kills. It’s a wild, gory ride with, maybe, the only instance of a love triangle that involves a corpse but at least is ridiculous and committed. Any way you slice it, it's got us in stitches and it offers up the kinds of questions that can’t help but make us laugh. That’s right, despite all the entrails and weird sexual practices we’re having a very good time with this one and you can too, tune in!
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Introduction and Roles
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That you would, if you could And you know that you should Yes, you know that you should
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hello hello hello and welcome to your favorite bad movie podcast it's the only podcast that's brave enough to ask the question this movie's so bad why do you like it so much we're your hosts my name is chris anderson i'm obviously a creepy little perv so i'm gonna be the frank of the show let's be frank i'm frank okay And of course, we got Mr. Greg Bossy, my wonderful co-host, loyal. i couldn't do it without you. So obviously, you've got to be the Iris of the show. Okay, I'll take that. i like Iris as a choice. This is interesting. I like it. I'm good. How are you? you
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I'm good. i'm I'm doing very well. Okay, good. And we have, of course, they're beautiful. They're beautiful. Almost always dealing with horrible health problems or just trying to get some rest.
00:01:36
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They're the Anna of the show, my lovely wife, Anna Anderson. Hello. Yes, I was going to say I'm like the Anna in the movie because I'm lying down a lot of the time.
00:01:49
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It's true. It's true. You also like to take it sleazy, just like the Anna of the film. I am alive, though. So, there's yeah, we're also we're also very different.
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And clothed. Most of them are unclothed. Most of the women. It's true. Yeah, it's true. um My wife is rarely nude. I'd say maybe a few times a day, max. But we do have with us, of course, a very special guest.
Special Guest Appearance
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You're right. Remember him from our episode about Money Plane, a true classic. And, of course, he's...
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a wonderful friend of the show, a, a vegetarian. So let's call him the Mr. Kale. It's Mark Hensley. How are you, Mark? I'm all right.
00:02:39
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Is Mr. Kale the... I feel like I'm like the ah mortician who just said kind of pops in. Yeah, yeah, that's Mr. Kale. Okay, yeah, exactly me. All right, you're right. yeah i like I'll be here for a bit, but I'm not really of character. yeah Don't worry about what I'm doing. i it It doesn't matter if it's important. It's not about the investigation. I'm just like nosy, really. Yeah.
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Yeah, i'm I have no authority. No, I can't do anything about it. I'm a mortician. Yeah. But we we have to get to that. we have to get to that. yeah
Movie Discussion: 'Beyond the Darkness'
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It's true. Listeners, this week we are talking about Beyond the Darkness. If you haven't seen Beyond the Darkness, here's just a short summary of the film to hold in your mind.
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A perverted taxidermist stuffs and mounts his dead girlfriend and with the help of his aging nurse, kills several women that he meets.
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Yeah. Right? I mean, that does happen, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the that's the movie. that's ah Just so you know what we're talking about. That's what's going to happen in this movie.
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And Mark, how did you come across Beyond the Darkest? Uh, so this is an advertisement for Tubi. Oh, yeah. That's a Tubi streaming service. Go to Tubi. You'll find some you'll find some shit.
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Yeah. Pop on over. I mean, yeah, we all know this. And yeah so I recommend you you put an ad v blocker on your Tubi. You don't need anything else. You're good for the rest of your I don't even do that. I want them to have the money. It's like every like half hour. to It's true. It's an ad every half hour. Don't worry about it. You can just get some food or whatever. It's fine. Yeah, you look at your phone. You take a break. They actually do a good job of figuring out where to put in the ads, too, which I desperately appreciate. They do But yeah, it was just like a random 2B click, and I was like, ah, this is wild.
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yeah Yeah. It is very wild. It's very wild very quickly, which I appreciate. It's not a slow build. That's what i that's honestly the part that, like, I love that the opener is... Are we getting into it yet? i don't Well, well we can we can get into the the opener. Have either of you guys seen this one before?
00:05:04
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I hadn't. No. i I feel like Amazon has recommended this one to me. Like, I looked at screenshots, and it's like, I looked at screenshots of this before at some point in my life.
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But I never partook. I knew the title because I made a game about movies with goblin soundtracks when we had did Contamination.
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and Because the Italian title is ah what? Buio Omega? which is That's a really great title. Yeah, Buio. B-U-I-O is such a weird word to like move your mouth around. I love doing it.
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Buio. Buio Omega. But yeah, I had not seen this one, but I was very excited when you ah brought it to us because Italian movies have always been a fun time on the show. Yeah, it's a classic giallo.
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It's a weird, like, post-Giallo, I want to say. Yeah, sort of. And, like, Anna said, it's like, yeah, it's weird, like, Goblin is a soundtrack, but it's like dog shit, though. Yeah. This is very cheap. That's the best thing about it. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's very like straightforward just exploitation. It knows exactly what it is. It's not at all pretentious. No, it shows Bush constantly. They don't care. Yeah. yeah yeah Yeah. Wall-to-wall, beautiful, nude Italian women.
00:06:33
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Most of them dead. Yeah. well Well, sooner or later. you could imagine You can imagine. Yeah, sure, sure. The actresses were probably alive. Probably. Probably. It's a theater.
00:06:48
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Well, I did a little bit of research into the context of buo Omega. Do you guys want to hear what I found out? Please. Yeah.
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I want to hear some details. Gossip scandal, all that shit. Can't imagine all the time.
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So Beyond the Darkness was released November 15th, 1979. The director, Joe D'Amato. Your tagline just won fate worse than death. Exclamation point.
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yeah It's not actually worse, though, really. Like, it's like they're already. Yeah. She did already die. no one goes to hell or no one goes to like hell or anything. It's just like. Yeah. Yeah.
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it It does feel undignified, but I'd say the indignity is not as bad as the death. Yeah.
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but Maybe it's just me. And now ah Joe D'Amato, he was known by many names. His fans sometimes call him the evil Ed Wood.
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Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. He was born Aristide Masacesi. maa chay It's Italian. it's italian Yeah, it's something that doesn't come naturally to me. He also directed roughly 200 films over the course of his career.
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And in the course of that ah career, he used at least 70 different stage names. Wow. Including Sergei De Palma. Michael Watruba.
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Fred Slonisco Jr. Okay. I loved him, but... Hugo Cleavers. Donna Alpert.
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Chang Lee Sun. And my personal favorite, Arizona, Massachusetts. Nice. That's good. That's a good one. One Massachusetts.
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Single Massachusetts. Yeah, it's one guy. I mean, what are you talking about? Yeah, he's ah of the Massachusetts, but he is Massachusetts. So he began working in film at the age of 14 when he started working for his father, an electrical technician working in the Roman film industry after World War II. I think he was ah like salvaging left behind electrical equipment that the Americans had left behind and selling that to the film industry. Okay. Okay.
00:09:54
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From there, he worked his way over to camera departments and then up to a cinematographer, then assistant director before getting his first crack in directing in 1972. That seems to be a sort of traditional path in the Italian studio system. Is is there like ah a pervert timeline where we can like track his perversity?
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oh we haven't gotten there yet, but it's coming. Nice. In 1972, he directed and wrote a sex comedy called the Amusing Tales of Pleasure. Hello. Seeking wives and penitent husbands. Decameron number 69. Oh, wow. I was going to write a book called exactly that. And so I'm like pissed off now.
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He directed nine more films between 1972 and 1975.
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Westerns, swords and sandals, pictures, war movies, all types.
Director Joe D'Amato's Career
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And then in 1975, you really found his niche with ah Emmanuel and Francois, a softcore porno and part of the larger Emmanuel franchise. I was going to ask, because I'm like, is there another Emanuel porn franchise? I guess well it's all connected. It's it's a universe. It's it's an MCU of sorts. but we It's actually, I have a lot of information about Emanuel, and we will be talking about it later in the show. All right, sure, we'll get to it.
00:11:22
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Oh, yeah, trust me. Put a pin in Emmanuel. ah But he would go on to make 18 films between 1975 and 1979. So doubling up his pace.
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Okay. And 14 of those would be softcore pornos. His final film of the 1970s would be a rare entry into the horror genre, Beyond the Darkness.
00:11:45
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So this is what he was doing after doing basically all porno for about a decade. I don't even think it's horror. I think it's still like psychosexual thriller. I don't think it's like full on horror. I think they were marketing it. Obviously, like the way that Giallo walks the line between horror and thriller. No, I'm not trying to make a point of it. I'm just saying. No, I mean, we don't want to buttonhole it. We don't want to minimize it. No, it's more De Palma, but not his pseudonym De Palma.
00:12:16
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No, no, not Seymour De Palma. Yeah. it's So D'Amato, was friends with a guy named Nino Guarini, who made a film in 1966 called The Third Eye.
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And Guarini gave D'Amato the go-ahead to remake it. This is a remake of a 1966 film that starred Terrence Hill, a guy that played ah Django.
00:12:43
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Fett? No, this whole picture. No, I know, I know, I know. Yeah, yeah. ah The whole picture was shot in two weeks in one summer 1979 in a northern Italian province, ironically named South Tyrell.
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Okay. okay Wait, why is that ironic? wait Because it was in the north. Oh, sorry. That, by the way, explains why it looks like Switzerland, because it basically is.
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okay Yes. The north Tyrol is Switzerland. so Okay, so yeah, this a border province. Yeah. So for a guy who spent the last 10 years or so shooting soft core pornos in the Caribbean, a summer in Northern Italy could still be pretty decent.
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Also, yeah, like I think six of his last pornos were shot in like the Dominican Republic. This guy was just spending every day of his life filming beautiful women in the nude. You just go where the bodies are. You go where the bodies are. Now he wanted to make this movie really gross.
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okay In the book Italian Gothic Horror Films, the star Franca Stoppi, who played Iris, yeah quoted D'Amato as saying, we're making a movie to make a people throw up.
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We must make them So this was, like he explicitly was hoping to make the audience vomit. That was his goal. Yeah, he's he's sort of a,
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Nevermind. Provocateur? I was thinking reverse Gallagher. Yeah. Yeah. i was thinking reverse gallagher so
00:14:35
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yeah yeah Yeah, ah to that end, ah he knew that he would need a lot of gore. To achieve the realistic gore cheaply and quickly, he just used the old trick of buying a bunch of animal parts from a nearby abattoir.
00:14:53
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Pigskin, assorted intestines, a sheep's heart, some eyeballs, stuff like that.
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Gambling on gore really paid off for D'Amato. Beyond the darkness. Well, just in terms of bringing international attention and success.
00:15:13
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It is one of his first films to reach an international audience, ah though often it did that posing as a sequel to other films that it was not actually a sequel to. Okay. in Spain, it was released as House Part 6, El Terror Continua.
00:15:30
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Mm hmm. in Mexico. But which house? A house from the haunted house franchise that starred William Catt. Okay. This would have been the sixth one in that series.
00:15:42
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Okay. No, that can't be because that came out in the eighty s Oh no, but this, it was released in Spain later. Well, who knows? It also got released at different times, a different country.
00:15:54
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Yeah. It got released in Mexico as zombie part 10. Nice. And it was released in Italy in 1987 as a knockoff as of the evil dent franchise in Italy. Evil dead was known as ah the house.
00:16:12
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And this was released re-released in Italy as ah the house beyond the darkness. Yeah. Well, that's a loose one. i think they can get away with that. Yeah, it's sort of like the Amityville thing. It's it but definitely yeah the audience knows that's what you're referring to, but also knows that it's not official.
00:16:30
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I did think it was weird when I saw Spy Kids 3 and there was a handjob scene, though. I was is this legit? Is this legit? don't know about this.
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Other horror films of 1979. What else could you be seeing?
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You got zombie two. Yeah. The classic Lucio Fulci. Yeah. It's a crazy one. Yeah. You had zombie Holocaust
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and killer fish. Those are the three Italian ones I could find something called killer fish. Sounds great. In other parts of the world, you got David Cronenberg's of the brood class. Nice. Love the brood.
00:17:15
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You got Amityville horror, spooky houses. Everybody loves the spooky house. Yes, sometimes houses are bad Yeah. Yeah. This is something that really resonated at the time. People were afraid that their houses were haunted.
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ah You got Driller Killer. Is that a video game? ah No, it's ah God, I can't remember his name. ah Abel Ferrara, I think. Oh, is it really? Yeah, dude killing people with a and a drill.
00:17:45
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Yeah. You guessed it. You got the prize. and That's right. ah You got Tourist Trap. I think of Jamie Lee Curtis, if I remember right.
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Okay. You got Herzog's Nosferatu.
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And my personal favorite of the year, the all time classic. He got Phantasm out in 79. Nice.
00:18:12
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Well, I think it's about time for me to transition smoothly to the next segment. And I'm going to do that by playing the plot bumper.
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Plot bumper, listen to me. I'm gonna give you the plot summary. Come on, baby. Here's the synopsis.
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Plot bumper, plot bumper.
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So we open been on a van driving through the woods on a beautiful sunny day and credits roll and Goblin plays on the
Plot Analysis and Themes
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soundtrack. They're billed as the Goblins, something I'd never seen before. Yeah.
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Great song. Incredible music. There's like four Goblin tracks that are on this movie and they just put them in heavy rotation. But every time they come back around, you're like, yes, it's this one again. All right.
00:19:31
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Yeah, I tried to take some notes and I like wrote down the goblins, but I was like, is it not just goblin? Like I was in my mind. and yeah it was really it put in an uncanny valley. It was like Costco or off brand. Yeah, the to be or not. No, what a Timu. The Timu. Yeah, it's the Timu goblin.
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ah So ah the driver of the van is an eerily handsome young man named Francesco or Frank. And he picks up a large cardboard box from a man in an abandoned house. And we're wondering what could possibly be in this box. What could be in that box? You will you will not believe what it is.
00:20:11
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it's a surprise. now you I did not guess. lose zero honestly This is honestly my favorite part of i think it's the funniest like joke. you could ever have It was great reveal. It's the yeah funniest reveal. Because it takes like five minutes. He's like doing this real serious thing. like Thanks for grabbing my box, bro. It's just like a guitar They cut to a whole other scene before we get back to the box. It takes so long.
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Yeah, because we cut over to ah a a severe looking woman named Iris. Very strange face on Iris. Yeah. And she's clearly like a beautiful woman that they have put makeup on to make her look ugly.
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And she smiles as an old lady drives needles into what one probably used to call a voodoo doll. I don't know if we still call them voodoo dolls. Is that, is that, all voooo doll is that bad now? I don't know.
00:21:05
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i don't know. Well, it was like, you can call it a pop it actually. pop it. Okay. Okay. you know what you You know what I'm talking about, listeners. You know what it is.
00:21:20
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ah So, yeah, getting that thing stabbed. And then it turns out that the old woman is cursing a beautiful blonde woman named Anna who's suffering in a hospital bed with her twin sister, Eleanor, sitting patiently by her side.
00:21:36
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This may or may not be the only occurrence of magic in this film. I think so. I expected it to be like a Frankenstein situation. Yeah, the guy's named Frank.
00:21:47
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I like that that was a fake switch. That is the only magic involved. Yeah. Yeah. Now, we we cut back to Frank, who is finally unloading this mysterious box.
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And he brings it down to a dimly lit basement. And we hear him dump out the contents onto a table with a loud thud. And then we hear him slowly walk over the light switch and flick. It's a dead baboon. It's a baboon. Yep.
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Yep. And also, it's not like it's not even like refrigerated. It's just like in a cardboard box. Anyway, here's your baboon asshole. um Like it looked like it died today. yeah it's like And it's like he went to like an Amazon pickup point. He's like, yeah can you leave it at the, there's a guy with like an empty barn. If you can bring in there, I'll pick it up there. I'll put it in my red van and then we'll take it home.
00:22:42
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It's the craziest thing. just to you in my absolutely bizarre It was a incredible reveal. I'm sorry that we spoiled it for you listeners. But it again, it's another like hour before they address the baboon again.
00:22:57
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Like we're like, well yes. And then only like barely. Anyway, sorry. Go on. Yeah. this ah So let's see. Yeah. Dead baboon.
00:23:09
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ah It turns out that Frank is ah and ah taxidermist. He's a taxidermist. yeah Also, he lives with Iris, the maid that was cursing that lady.
00:23:22
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And Iris stops him as he gets out of the shower and he runs out nude in front of her. And we're like, oh, these two seem to have a strange relationship. that They sure do. It seemed like these two seem to have a strange relationship.
00:23:34
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And, uh, but she tells him that, oh yeah, you got a phone call from the hospital. He's like, the hospital. And he runs off to go to the hospital. Well, he thinks it's a baboon hospital. And he's like, do they have another one? maybe there's Maybe that baboon didn't make it. Fresh baboon corpse.
00:23:50
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I've got a guy at the vet hospital, but no, it turns out it's the human hospital. And Anna is his girlfriend. And she tells him that she wants to make love to him just one time before she dies. Just one time. And he, yeah. And he really blows it. He's like, don't worry about that. That's the opposite what you should be saying, bro.
00:24:12
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Uh, but then before they can, you know, go through that whole concept, she dies. Mid kiss, which is really nice. Not one I've seen before. Yeah, it's really funny.
00:24:28
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I mean, I've never done yet. because it's never I don't think I've ever killed anyone while kissing them, though I could. Because a kiss could be even deadlier if you mean it.
00:24:42
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Yeah. Yeah. ah Yeah, she's dead. Frank is a wreck. And he goes home and he weeps. But Iris has just the thing to turn that frown upside down.
00:24:57
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Her breasts. Yeah, suckle. Just suckle. yeah Get a handjob and suckle. Yeah. And yeah she keeps calling little Frankie and he starts getting a little freaky.
00:25:09
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And we in the audience realize, like, yeah, these two definitely have a strange relationship. They sure do. And there's still a baboon in the room. Yeah, there's still a dead baboon that hasn't even been addressed.
00:25:23
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Don't worry about that. Later at the funeral home, Frank injects Anna's corpse with some sort of chemical. But he's observed doing this by a mortician named Mr. Kale.
00:25:36
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Yeah, Mr. Kale is great. It will give Mr. Kale an itch that he will need to scratch. And he'll be digging away at old Frank for the rest of the movie once every half hour or so.
00:25:51
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That night... Frank goes back to the cemetery and digs up her body and tosses it in the back of his cool, big red van. I want to say that's the most conspicuous fucking thing to be driving around. It's very identifiable. Giant bright red van. Yeah. Like brand new. And he keeps doing clearly like custom. Mm hmm.
00:26:16
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On his way home, he gets a flat tire. And while he's getting it changed, he turns around and there's a British hitchhiker named Jan sitting in the passenger seat. Yeah, British. Because I think the movie's British, actually. I'm not even sure. like It seems like was naturally American. yeah I was never entirely Frank's an American name. I i they had this took place in the Adirondacks. But yeah, so...
00:26:42
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Yeah, so we get this who's from Britain. Yes, I loved Jan. I thought Jan was a real breath of fresh air. She's great. She doesn't seem like that she belongs in the movie, and that kind of makes it fun.
00:26:55
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Yeah, yeah yeah she's it's like ah all of a sudden you bite into a chili pepper. It's like, ooh, oh, okay. Yeah. Rather than kicking Jan out of the van, ah he gives her a lift.
00:27:10
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Fortunately for him, Jan has brought some of the shittiest looking weed you've ever seen with her. And ah she rolls herself a sad looking little joint and smokes it and immediately passes out.
00:27:22
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She's still passed out when they get back to Frank's place. So Frank just leaves her sleeping in the front seat and sneaks the exhumed corpse of his girlfriend back inside the house. Real brazen.
00:27:35
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Yeah. Yeah. but I mean, he's on his own turf now. Jan is in the dragon's lair. It's true.
Character Dynamics and Dark Scenes
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Now, he brings Anna downstairs and starts taxidermying her. First, he cuts her open, and then he starts ripping down all her guts and tossing them in a bucket like loud schlops. Splat!
00:27:56
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Splat! i guess It's so gross and wonderful. Yeah. I was eating during this scene, and I stopped. That's reasonable. It was really effective, I thought. Yeah, just after while, i was like, I can't do this. I literally can't. I can't do this anymore. I i want to just ah briefly say, like, I have taxidermied.
00:28:18
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Yeah. Okay. I've, like, personally taxidermied a rat, and my dad, I've seen, like, had, like, a ah deer head taxidermied. Mm-hmm.
00:28:29
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So, at, like, not that I'm saying the rest of this is logical, but At some level, I'm annoyed that he just kind of like sucks some fluids and slaps and guts out. Like you have take the whole skin off.
00:28:43
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You can't just leave it on the skeleton. Yeah, you can't just leave the skeleton and the brain and shit in there. Like, well, I want to kiss her, so she's shit out of her brain. No, you got to, like, drape the skin over, like, a styrofoam form or something, right? Exactly, yeah. You have to make a form. have to, dry out the skin. You have to put it over a form. I had to make a form for the rat or whatever. Yeah, it's like...
00:29:09
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And so, again, it's like one of those things where it's like, this is nitpicking for a movie about this. But I was like annoyed. It's the whole thing is about him being a weirdo taxidermist. Let's get that right. Let's get it right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, go to the library when you get to this part. Just that part.
00:29:28
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Anyway. No, I completely understand. But it is incredibly gross. Yeah. Now, ah last but not least. Oh, he eats the heart, too, right? Yeah, he cuts her heart out, and he takes a big bite out of the heart.
00:29:42
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And then he shoves, like, a straw up her nose and starts squeezing, like, her brain out of her nose with, like, a vacuum pump. Yeah. It's ru ridiculous.
00:29:57
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And at this point, at least it's become very clear that he is not trying to bring her back to life. No. That is not the movie that we're watching. Right. No.
00:30:05
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Meanwhile, ah Jan has finally risen from her cannabis-induced stupor. She starts wandering around the mansion until she stumbles on Frank, inserting glass eyes into Anna's skull.
00:30:18
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This really freaks her out, which makes Frank freak out. He grabs her and starts ripping her fingernails out with a pair of pliers before smothering her with a rag.
00:30:29
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See, I feel like you could have done the reverse and that would have been... yeah Strange kill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really anticlimactic with the rag to the mouth. I gotta say. It's like, so you just wanted to torture her with the nail part?
00:30:45
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Yeah, yeah. I guess so. I guess he did. Yeah, just a bad guy, I think. what The funny thing about that is that's one of the one of the goblin tracks plays beneath that, and it's like a smooth groove, and he's like she's tearing her fucking fingernails out. and he's like This like really cool groove. It's like, oh, yeah, I'd listen to that, but it's like the worst scene I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:11
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ah Now, Frank tosses Jan's body in the van, and he figures that he'll figure out what to do with her later. Meanwhile, Iris has found out what's going on with Anna's corpse.
00:31:24
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While Frank still thinks of the corpse as the love of his life, Lily thinks of it as Frank's little doll. i's like, okay, yeah, you can keep your little doll, little Frankie.
00:31:36
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she She doesn't feel threatened. i want to ah I think you may have missed a point that I thought was crazy where they do address the baboon where a guy's just like, someone wants to buy the baboon. Oh, that's coming. We haven't got it. Sorry, sorry. i No, don't you worry. I'm not going to miss but i yeah the Someone in
00:32:00
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you've been We've been talking about this thing the whole time. I finally found one guy that wants to buy one of these things. He wants to buy the baboon, baby. We're going to be rich. You got it from that guy in the barn, right? Of course I did. i thought that was the guy in the bad barn. I thought that that baboon supplier was also the guy that was but finding clients for the taxidermied baboon. i thought it was him. I think he is. That's his whole job. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:28
Speaker
Yeah, and Frank is just like a specialist that he brings for one part of the the transaction. Right. He's the baboonist, and this guy just has to... You want him alive, you want him dead, you want him stuffed.
00:32:43
Speaker
I'm going to get you the baboon, I'm going to give you the baboon, then I'll sell the baboon, and that's it. I'd make up just 10% every time. Every time I'd skip 10%. This is how you do it. I'm a baboon flipper.
00:32:58
Speaker
Now, Iris and Frank, ah they dress her up in a nightgown and they paint her nails and they do her makeup and then they tuck her into a twin bed.
00:33:09
Speaker
Later, the guy that gave Frank the baboon corpse rolls up with another guy and that other guy is Mr. Kale, the mortician. They have to scratch his itch.
00:33:23
Speaker
Now, baboon corpse man says that he brought a buyer for the taxidermy baboon. And Frank says he's been a little bit too busy to taxidermy of the baboon lately. Uh, but he's going to get right on it.
00:33:35
Speaker
<unk> get messing enough the whole man then They've refrigerated this baboon ever. in know they No box. And then poured out of a box. This is just a good ride. That's going to damage the skin. You want to look at it looking subtle. This is a rotting baboon corpse that he's going to have to deal with.
00:33:52
Speaker
It's it's true. It's probably truly grotesque and festering with disease. ah But Mr. Kale, he searches the property and finds Anna's locket left behind inside the van. But curiously, he doesn't find Jan's corpse.
00:34:08
Speaker
Isn't that interesting? Very. Well, it's because he's not an inspector. He's just, he's mortician. he's just a no There's no reason he's investigating this. Just an itch that he has to stretch. He just wanted to pop in. And you see, just a naturally curious man. You got any women or baboons in the eye?
00:34:31
Speaker
It's basically, he should be like a Jessica Fletcher. He should have his own murder, she wrote. He's the mortician that investigates the murders of the people that come through. thought you were going to say a baboons. He's obviously found like a new baboon. That's the spinoff.
00:34:47
Speaker
For his cousin that works at animal graveyard. Special baboon victim unit. Exactly. Now... ah Kale and the baboon salesman leave.
00:35:02
Speaker
And we find out that the reason why Kale didn't find the corpse is because Iris moved it. So now Iris also knows about that. So Frank sort of just has to be open with what's going on here. Yes, I've taxidermied my dead girlfriend. Yes, I've killed a woman.
00:35:19
Speaker
So ah they drag her corpse up to a bedroom and ah then they strip her nude, dismember her and dissolve her in a bathtub full of acid.
00:35:30
Speaker
Then, for the final indignity, Iris collects the slop out of the tub and dumps it in a shallow hole in the backyard. It's um it's very Breaking Bad.
00:35:40
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, it's real gross. It continues. They wash up. Iris serves them a little stew for lunch. And while watching Iris eat, with the stew slopping out of her mouth... Why does she... Is she doing that intentionally? Yeah. Crazy. feel like she is. She's making a meal out of that meal. It's like, no, she definitely, I feel like she's just being like, fuck you for killing her and making me clean it up. And this is going to remind you of that. Something grotesque. yeah's That's gross. That's grosser than the bloody parts. I think it's pretty bad because it's real. And she's like, um, it's just like, oh my God, that is gross. You're not wrong.
00:36:22
Speaker
And, ah then, ah this makes Frank throw up in the sink nearby. Mm-hmm. Then, he's very upset about all this, so he goes to spend some time with Anna, and Iris feels bad for him, so she jacks him off while he stares at his girlfriend's corpse. These last 10 minutes or so, I want to say, is like the perfect distillation of this movie.
00:36:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. There's going to be some hand jobs. going to be a couple hand jobs. Yeah, there's... It makes sense within the context of the film, but I'm like this, these last 10 minutes are the purest form of beyond the darkness. I want to say now, uh, Mr. Kale, the investigating mortician,
00:37:06
Speaker
gets a report on this mysterious Frank. He hired a private investigator or something? He did a background check on Frank somehow. Very strange. Very strange.
00:37:17
Speaker
It's also not a very good report. it's just like It's just like, here's his name and here's who his parents were and he owns a house. Yeah. It's like, great. Wonderful. Turns out he's an orphan and that inherited this big house and he lives with his nursemaid.
00:37:33
Speaker
Everything that we sort of already knew. No, I kind of got, I kind of got the juice to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kale is caught up with us at this point. and Yeah. Except we know about all the murders. I guess he doesn't know. All right. This is like dramatic irony for him or us. I don't know which.
00:37:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Now ah the next day, Frank goes for a jog and he meets a beautiful jogger just as she sprains her ankle.
00:38:01
Speaker
He invites her back to his place for a little first aid. And ah the tender intimacy of caregiving quickly transitions into hooking up. ah Frank leads the jogger towards the twin bed that's twins to Anna's twin bed.
00:38:18
Speaker
And at the height of their lovemaking, he pulls back the covers on Anna's bed we can look at her. The jogger sees her too and starts screaming because there's a corpse three feet away from her.
00:38:31
Speaker
And Frank, in response, bites out her trachea. I know. He's like, I'm sorry. Why are you upset about this? It's Yeah. It's not like I have a third in the room. It's not a cuck situation. She's not going to join us. It's fine. She's just there. The corpse is just going to be over there.
00:38:52
Speaker
Yeah, it's fine. She just likes to watch. Have you heard of compersion? That's my cold wife. That's really fine.
00:39:04
Speaker
That's really good. Sorry, I'm laughing at my own joke. you slam dunked it, my dove. You slam dunked it. You are the comedian of the week. and Iris bear's ah iris hears all the screaming and helps Frank take the jogger down to their incinerator that they have down in the basement.
00:39:25
Speaker
This is assuming what he does with all his animal guts. Just chucks him in there. Is it even an incinerator exactly? Like, genuinely, like... could be a kill. It looks like a pizza oven. Yeah, it seems more like you make flatbread down there. Yeah. Yeah, it looks like a really nice pizza oven.
00:39:47
Speaker
But for their purposes, for the movie purposes, it's a small incinerator. All right, fine. Uh... So they both watch her burn to death in there. it Turns out she was still alive. We see her writhing around on fire. That's pretty gnarly.
00:40:02
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's wild. Yeah. And all all the sort of gore scenes do go on for like a good amount of time. He really lets you sit and wallow in them. Mm-hmm. These are not like quick cuts. This is not like a slash. And then we're on to the next scene, you know?
00:40:18
Speaker
So Iris says they need to get rid of Frank's little doll. But Frank has a counteroffer. He still needs Iris to take care of the dead bodies and jack him off while he's feeling sad. So he agrees to marry her, but only on the condition that can keep Anna around.
00:40:35
Speaker
She's in. Once again, not threatened. Yeah. I mean, it's a corpse, so. Yeah, she's dead, so. Once they get married, I'm assuming she's going to toss Anna in the incinerator anyway, and if Frank has a problem with it, she'll kill Frank, too. No big deal. Yeah. Well, and they're Italian, so she'll make, like, a series of pizzas with, ah Yeah.
00:40:57
Speaker
Yeah, just work it into the dough. Yeah, slice her thin and put her out on top in nice Ah, nice. Yeah. A nice and a rony. Make a nice and a rony.
00:41:10
Speaker
So ah she proves her worth to their pending marriage when a pair of cops show up looking for the jogger, ah saying that she disappeared three days ago. Iris shows them around. There's nothing suspicious. She hides one of the joggers shoes between a pair of boxes that never comes up again. i thought for sure it would. Nope.
00:41:29
Speaker
ah And then and she gives one of them a taxidermied squirrel and sends them on their way. That's the classic Italian tradition, by the way. Yeah. If you have a taxidermied squirrel, you're like, here's a squirrel.
00:41:46
Speaker
Bless sir you. love Love the Pope.
00:41:52
Speaker
Let's see. and Later. Iris invites her whole family over for an engagement dinner. In a fantastic touch, her family is composed entirely of weird-looking freaks. Yeah. Total weirdos. They're wonderful. Yeah.
00:42:07
Speaker
Good to see a table of freaks gathered together in a movie. Frank gets one look at this crew and walks out without saying a word. He'd rather hang out with his dead girlfriend somewhere.
00:42:18
Speaker
Yeah, I love that. That's kind of like the moral of the story is like, it turns out like killing a couple of girls, taxiderming one, It makes you little depressed, ultimately.
00:42:31
Speaker
Yeah. It gets you down It's not all it's cracked up to be. Yeah, and it's not. It's not all it's cracked up be. It's just like, wow. And know now I got to marry my wet nurse? Yeah. This was a bad plan, ultimately. You can't solve problems by making more problems.
00:42:51
Speaker
Now, a the next day, Frank goes for a jog. While he's out, Mr. Kale sneaks back into the house for some more investigating.
00:43:02
Speaker
I hate nosy Mr. Kale. I do hate him. He's great. I think he's great. He eventually finds Anna's corpse inside a wardrobe.
00:43:14
Speaker
And as she falls out on the floor, he takes her picture. Then he goes home and he develops the picture. So don't worry, audience, the picture also got developed. Yeah, classic one, two. yeah you Take the picture, develop the picture. Yeah, he took that over to a processor. and that we It shows him in the darkroom. He's doing it himself. Oh, right, he did have it he did have a like one of the classic like red tinted darkrooms. Yeah, and he's like, that's the picture I took. And then he goes back out into his home and he's like, I'm so depressed. I have nothing but this.
00:43:50
Speaker
I was really hoping this wouldn't be it, but at least now I've solved the case of the missing body. my I've solved the case. I have no authority, but but at the same time, I got him yeah in a way. My honor as a mortician has been, I can honestly say I've never lost a body. I've still never lost a body.
00:44:10
Speaker
I know where is. not lost. It's just not there. it's not lost it's yeah not there ah Now, when Frank gets back, ah Iris once again pushes Frank to get rid of Anna, and Frank slaps her around for even suggesting the idea.
00:44:28
Speaker
Instead, he kisses Anna goodbye and goes off to a friendly singles bar, perhaps inspired by the great American institution TGI Fridays. Mm-hmm.
00:44:39
Speaker
Greg, was this far reminiscent of a TGI Fridays to you? Certainly. Listen to our episode about cocktail where Greg tells us all about how all singles bars evolved out of TGI Fridays. It's great stuff.
00:44:54
Speaker
There he spies another beautiful blonde. This guy has a thing for beautiful blondes, which is probably not the rarest of things you can know. ah He follows her into the bathroom and asked if she wants to go for a drive. And she's like, yeah, sounds good.
00:45:12
Speaker
I love it. It's a different time. Yep. Frank takes her back home for a little murder sex, but before they can get down to it, he's interrupted.
00:45:24
Speaker
He's got a house guest and it's Anna's twin sister, Eleanor, from the beginning of the movie. Yep.
00:45:33
Speaker
Now this was the reveal that she was a twin, wasn't it? Cause she's wearing like big sunglasses. I, know the first time she appears. Yeah.
00:45:44
Speaker
i feel i think I think it's supposed to be a surprise to the audience as well as it's certainly a surprise to Frank. Oh, yeah yes. yeah I think so, yeah. I'm going to confess, I didn't realize she was a twin until I was going through the Wikipedia summary after watching the movie.
00:46:02
Speaker
I thought she was just a sister that looked like her a little bit. She should have had a baboon with her, too. She had the but like a baboon twin. She also brought in. And another baboon!
00:46:15
Speaker
I got a baboon here. now Everything's coming up Frank. or ah So, yeah, Frank says, get out of here, blonde from the disco.
00:46:27
Speaker
I've got something better going on. And then he tells Iris to make sure that ah Eleanor doesn't leave while he drives the disco girl home, I think. Yeah, he offers her a ride, which is very classy. I'll be back in like 45 minutes. If you could just... I got to drive around the countryside for a while with this woman. I need to get all the way back to town.
00:46:57
Speaker
So Iris brings her to the drawing room, the perfect place to step a guest. Uh, but then she kills the lights, which sort of adds some tension to the situation. We start to freak out.
00:47:12
Speaker
And then we have possibly the only other supernatural thing that happens in the movie. Anna's voice warning Eleanor that this house is bad and that she should get out.
00:47:24
Speaker
It's cursed. It's cursed that. Yes. I thought that was Iris. I very well could have been Iris. I just did her head. don't think it's supernatural. I don't think it's like, it also could have because her own voice would sound a lot like her twin sisters. Naturally. Yeah.
00:47:43
Speaker
It could be all three faces are all three in some sense, the same woman they should have had. And the actress that played Anna also play Iris. That would have been, and Eleanor, that would have been sick. Yeah. Would have been pretty well.
00:47:58
Speaker
Now, uh, yeah, she starts running around the mansion and eventually Eleanor finds Anna's corpse.
00:48:10
Speaker
Then Iris comes in the room brandishing a big old kitchen knife and Eleanor passes out. Iris is about to stab her when Frank rushes into the room and the two of them start literally tearing each other apart, like biting chunks of their faces off and ripping their eyes out. Just like nasty serial killer fight. It's pretty cool.
00:48:37
Speaker
And then Frank ends up stabbing Iris in the heart. as So RIP Iris. ah He then picks up Eleanor and carries her downstairs to his taxidermy workshop.
00:48:55
Speaker
Later, Mr. Kale returns. And this time, he's brought the cops. I think, or maybe he shows up again later with the cops. The cops show up sooner or later. I ran out of steam at this point. But Kale shows up and he finds a burnt corpse in the incinerator.
00:49:13
Speaker
And then he brings Anna's corpse back to be reinterred. And he goes to nail her back into the coffin when she busts out. It was Eleanor. Eleanor is alive and survived the movie. What a twist, a happy twist. Who would have thought?
00:49:28
Speaker
The end. It literally ends in screaming. It's like, ah, the end comes up. Yeah. Great. Also, I forget when before that, like ah briefly before that I wrote this down it' like one of my few notes.
00:49:45
Speaker
There's a part where someone, I think one of these women at the end it was like, what was that all about? He's like, who knows? Some crazy old bag.
00:49:56
Speaker
Who can say? no, just crazy old bag. It's just a crazy old bag. Well, final thoughts, five star ratings in terms of watchability and weirdness.
00:50:07
Speaker
Greg, you kick us off.
Reviews and Reactions
00:50:11
Speaker
So, yeah, I thought this was a pretty good time, except for the parts that weren't. ah And I think it was pretty watchable. I like this kind of Italian schlock. It's a good time. It's ah always surprising.
00:50:24
Speaker
But admittedly, I would give it a four, except that I did like at times i actually want to vomit. uh and so because of that it's difficult for me to like watch sections of it so i'm going to give it a three and a half for watchability but i think it was a pretty good time and i think uh if any of this sounded interesting to you you should certainly check it out because you will not be disappointed ah And weirdness, this one's this is pretty weird. it's I'm going to go four and a half, I think. Okay. It's not quite, i think a lot of the weirdness about it, like looking at a corpse while getting a handjob feels very like Euro cult. It's still pretty weird, but it's still, knowing it comes up in a European sexual horror film, it's like, yeah, that makes sense. Right.
00:51:06
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:08
Speaker
Well, what about you, Adam? What do you think? Watchability and Um, I'm pretty similar. i would give it a four for watchability. It was a great time. ah yeah, simply just with the caveat that it is very gross and also psychosexual. And if you don't like those things, watch something else. There's lots of movies.
00:51:32
Speaker
Um, as far as weirdness, yeah, i'd also give it about a four. yeah.
00:51:40
Speaker
That baboon, man. That baboon is so weird. That's still available if you want to buy that. That is... never actually bought it. It's true, because Mr. Kale, he was just... He didn't really want the baboon.
00:51:56
Speaker
What if you could go on movieprops.com and you found the baboon from Beyond the Darkness? How much would you shell out? $375. I think that'd be my upper range around there. Yeah.
00:52:08
Speaker
I think that's very fair. I'm going to give this one four stars for watchability. I think it moves at a good clip. It keeps on figuring out new ways to be weird. That's something we always talk about as being important for a bad movie. There's plenty of babes in it, although they are quite frequently dead.
00:52:25
Speaker
um But you know they're you know they're not... Yeah, I mean, they're live. They're live playing dead women. Live and well.
00:52:36
Speaker
Yeah, the gore can be a little bit much, but it's a fun ride if you know what you're getting into. And for weirdness, I also gave it four stars there. There's definitely like a genuine air of perversion to it that I feel is pretty transgressive.
00:52:50
Speaker
ah But there's also like some... proto torture porn stuff going on here with like the ripping off the fingernails that going on for so long like there's just a lot of different weird things coming together and like late era giallo it's just at a crossroads it's very strange uh but yeah i thought it was uh incredible marco what about you watchability and weirdness out of five stars I mean, i i guess it is like about like four, even maybe like four and a half watchability. I don't think it's like...
00:53:29
Speaker
it's like It's like a lean 90 minutes or something. Less than a houndo. I'm not really affected by the gore and shit, and it's fine.
00:53:41
Speaker
I've watched it like three times at this point. Okay. So it's like fine. I don't think it's like great to watch, but it's it's fine. it's like Yeah, it's like a four. It's like a four star. it's like You can watch that. It's not bad.
00:53:54
Speaker
yeah it's worth it it is bad it is bad yes but yeah yeah it's pretty weird but like it's hard to define its weirdness like it's like it's definitely gross and it's it's like the director here kind of laid himself bare where it's all about like so you want to be like suckling and like being jacked off all the time you know Yeah, definitely some vulnerability on display from Damata. There's some vulnerability on this display. But then also it's about like, and also you just kill any woman who like, you know, is a problem. It's, yeah. it's So, yeah, it's like not like weird in like a ah weird, weird way, but it's weird if like you kind of look at it and you're like, what is...
00:54:42
Speaker
what is the message here? Yeah. And the message is just like, it turns out you get a little upset if you've taxidermied your girlfriend and killed a couple other girls and burn them. Yeah.
00:54:54
Speaker
Yeah. it's It's sort of like, uh, that scene in burn after reading where it's like, what did we learn? Well, guess we shouldn't do that. Yeah.
00:55:07
Speaker
Well, you guys want to hear, I put in some research into a little bit of a tangent. We put a pin in it earlier. It's the Emmanuel movies. You guys want to talk about the Emmanuel movies? Let's do that.
00:55:18
Speaker
Sure.
00:55:23
Speaker
Sure. The movie is the main event, but that's not the case with this segment. No need to be sad or lament.
00:55:36
Speaker
Cause we're going on tangent.
00:55:42
Speaker
Yeah, that's the name of this segment. Going on tangent. Tangent.
00:55:57
Speaker
Tangent.
00:56:08
Speaker
I'm just like already getting steamy thinking about Emmanuel. I mean, or many adventures. I'm just like, well, as I mentioned earlier, D'Amato broke out into soft core porno with Emmanuel and Francois.
00:56:24
Speaker
Or Francoise. There's an E at the end. Francoise, yeah. Francoise. This was the first of eight Emanuel films he would go on to direct. How many Emanuel films do you guys think have been made?
00:56:38
Speaker
Don't look it up. are we including Are we including the... They like did, I believe, a remake version. Are we including that? 2024? No, not I think before that. I think there was like one with... like Every remake, every reboot, anything that you could reasonably call an Emanuel film.
00:56:56
Speaker
Because yeah didn't they not make someone with, like, a the... There's a go ah gal from Baywatch, and she like... yeah. The one he, like, ah feels up in Yes Man.
00:57:08
Speaker
like Yep. That, like... That one would count. they may all right It's going a lot. Stop. Well, I'm like just clarifying. All right. yeah there any Anything.
00:57:21
Speaker
I think 64. 64. I don't think it's that many. But there were probably like... God.
00:57:32
Speaker
I'll say like 30. There were over 100 Emanuel films made since the first one, which came out in 1969.
00:57:45
Speaker
A little over half the Emanuel films produced to date have been part of the six Emanuel franchises. There have been six separate Emanuel franchises. okay How many ejaculations?
00:57:56
Speaker
ah I don't think any on screen. I think it's consistently been soft. No, like off camera. Oh, canonically? Yeah. You know, I did not go through and count partners. That would have been, I have a breakdown like that diagram about Golgo 13 somewhere, but I don't have one for Emmanuel. That's hilarious.
00:58:16
Speaker
Now, ah let's see. but but but bu but Yes, six Emanuel franchises. The rest, I believe, were all sort of standalone Emanuel films. Emanuel films have been produced in 11 different countries, and she has been portrayed by 49 different actresses. Wow. Most frequently by an actress named Laura Gemzer, who I believe was initiated the role. No, no, no.
00:58:40
Speaker
Maybe. Well, anyway. ah I'm sorry. I wonder where that ranks in terms of single character played by oh number of different actors, because somebody like a Sherlock Holmes or a Hamlet would obviously be way, way, way up there. But that's certainly a lot. yeah Yeah, that's respectable. Yeah.
00:59:03
Speaker
It's like we should be talking about Emanuel like Bond. Like, who's the next Emanuel? Yeah, who's the next Emanuel? Who is the next Emanuel in space? That would be a better world.
00:59:15
Speaker
ah Now, ah let's see. There have been at least 60 different directors of Emanuel films. Joe D'Amato being the third most prolific director of Emanuel films.
00:59:26
Speaker
Behind Konefsky, who directed Nine. Most of them coming through the Emanuel Through Time series. She traveled through time for a little while. Well, she can move her around.
00:59:39
Speaker
Yeah, you got to keep on coming up with fresh premises. She's modern woman. That series, all of those films came out in 2011. And then there was Francis Leroy, who made eight and a half Emanuel films in 1993. He co-directed Emanuel 4. Did he jack himself off to death halfway through and they had to get someone else?
01:00:01
Speaker
I mean, i think i think he must have made it through the year because if he did die during that year, I'd hate to see how far he could have gone.
01:00:11
Speaker
So the inspiration of the Emanuel films came from a series of novels written by either Mariette Rolet-Andrian, a Thai actress married to a French diplomat, or her husband, that diplomat, Louis-Jacques Rolet-Andrian.
01:00:28
Speaker
The character of Emanuel herself is pretty straightforward. She's a young French woman married to diplomat. Wait, is this like big guy's scenario? Where, like, the wife actually did it, but, like, the husband was taking credit? What do you mean either? or or were they just alternating?
01:00:47
Speaker
um I think they, I think she might have started it, and then he picked it up, would be my guess, because there were later entries. But I didn't find, like, an exact...
01:01:00
Speaker
I didn't do enough research to get to the bottom. right I just didn't know if it was like alternating credits or if it was like, uh, inconsistency. oh shes if we knew All right. whatever.
01:01:13
Speaker
Uh, they were apparently, ah big, uh, swingers in the seventies. I think if you were trying to find a pervert, the French ambassador to Thailand during the sexual revolution is probably going to be number one perverts on earth.
01:01:29
Speaker
Thailand has been known for its, uh, as a pervert enclave. Yeah. It's a place that perverts like to go to. You don't really trust a lot of white guys going to Thailand. No, they, they swim there. They love it.
01:01:44
Speaker
Yeah. They can't keep away. Uh, now, But yeah, the book was about her yeah going to Thailand to live with her husband, the diplomat, and then screwing through all the sort of rich expats that live in Thailand, as well as some Thai people.
01:02:05
Speaker
That sounds fine. As I believe the series progressed, this biography was sort of streamlined further until Emmanuel just became beautiful, horny woman.
01:02:16
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. well yeah what What else is the concept? I don't really understand what you're saying. It's like you're saying like you know eventually eventually Superman became just like a really strong guy. Yeah, exactly. yeah I don't know exactly. but Okay.
01:02:33
Speaker
and Now for a while it seemed like Emanuel films might die out. They started sort of slowing down. After seven films... This economy.
01:02:44
Speaker
Well... After seven films that made up the Emmanuel through time series came out in 2011. No more Emmanuel films were made until 2022. There's a big 11 year gap.
01:02:59
Speaker
Since then, they've been making a quiet comeback, most notably in 2024 with Emmanuel rebooting to the main continuity. There was like a big feature film at Naomi Watts was in it as like an old lady that knows Emmanuel. Well,
01:03:15
Speaker
Yeah. Came out in 2024. I think it was an attempt to revive the erotic thriller. One of those situations. Okay. The film did quite poorly and was drubbed by critics.
01:03:25
Speaker
But there's no way that this is the last you've seen of Emmanuel. I'm sure Emmanuel will be coming back. The world will always love a beautiful horny woman. I did watch two Emmanuel related films this weekend. I watched the original Emmanuel directed by just Jakin.
01:03:40
Speaker
It's pretty much what you would expect. It was, I think the most successful French pornography ever made. Okay. Yeah. Not a bad porno. ah And then I watched something. ah Hang on. I have to look up the title because it was so strange.
01:03:56
Speaker
I think it was like porno nights of the world. Nice. Something. And that's an Emmanuel or is this just like another porn you watched? It was hosted by an actress that, uh, yes, here it was. ah It has two titles, sexy night reports and porno nights of the world. Both are great.
01:04:19
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And it was hosted by the actress that played Emmanuel in the D'Amato films. And it was sort of like a Mondo movie, but it was just like sex acts around the world. But also there was one scene of a guy getting his dick cut off, which was weird. This is like an Elvira scenario now, though. It's um yeah just like, we've got the actress and she'll introduce this man getting his dick cut off. We've got something super sexy coming up.
01:04:48
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Yeah. You know how they do things down in darkest Africa. And it's like, oh, brother, here we go.
01:04:58
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So, yeah, I don't particularly recommend porno nights of the world. I'll skip it then. I do recommend moving on to our next segment where we're going to play a game. You guys want to play a game?
01:05:09
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Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. We're going to play a little two out of three are real.
01:05:17
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He's this He's this guy. He's that guy. He's that guy. But there ain't no way he ever played the third guy.
01:05:29
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I know how you feel. How you feel. But two out of three are real. I said I know how you feel.
01:05:47
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But two out of three are real. Maybe we can talk all night.
01:05:57
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But now it's time for the segment.
01:06:04
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It's going to be Emanuel titles, isn't it? ah Well, it's going be Joe D'Amato films. Some of them are Emanuel titles. Some of them are not. ah Emanuel shows up a couple times in the quiz.
01:06:16
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ah But yeah, what I'm going to is I'm going to read you three film titles and two of them will be real. One of them I made up. I want you to tell me which one is the Chris original. Okay. You'll buzz in by saying your own name. If you get it wrong, your opponents will have the chance to steal.
01:06:32
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Is everybody ready? Yeah. Okay. All right. Hands on buzzers. Which one of these is not real? Porno Holocaust.
01:06:43
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The super porno heiresses. Or porno is my name. Greg. Greg? The super porno heiresses.
01:06:56
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No, that one's real. Mark. Mark? i I think porno holocaust isn't real. Porno holocaust is real. Anna gets to the point. All right. and I mean, yeah. Porno is my name.
01:07:15
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Question number two.
01:07:19
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Erotic bluff. To the sex stream or arrogance, no limits. Anna.
01:07:31
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Anna. Arrogance, no limits. No, that one's real. Mark. Mark. I think it's the second one.
01:07:42
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To the sex stream. Yeah, that's too stupid. You got it. but before you say that's too stupid, you haven't heard the rest of the quiz.
01:07:54
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Question number three. Chinese Emmanuel. Oh, boy. Chinese Kama Sutra. Oh, boy. Or China and sex. ah Greg.
01:08:07
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Greg? Chinese Kama Sutra. You Chinese come to suture is weird. I would have gone there, too.
01:08:17
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Anna. Anna? Fine, I'll do it. No, Anna buzzed Oh, sorry. All right, go ahead. Okay. China and sex.
01:08:31
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Yeah. mo Mark gets the point. It was Chinese Emmanuel was the one I made of. He did direct several entries into the Black Emmanuel series, though. Okay. Well, there's going to be a a multiverse of Emmanuel. Right. Yeah, absolutely.
01:08:48
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Question number four. Blue erotic climax. She loves the climax. Or super climax.
01:09:00
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Greg. Greg. Super climax. climax. Mark. i don't I don't think she loves the climaxes, right?
01:09:13
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You've got it, Mark. That one was a Chris original.
01:09:19
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Question number five. We're going to get away from the sex stuff for a second. well Why? yeah Well, just for a second. Don't worry. You're shy. Okay, go on. 2020 Texas Gladiators.
01:09:32
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Hercules Fights Alone. Or Quest for the Mighty Sword.
01:09:41
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can you repeat Can you repeat these? Absolutely. 2020 Texas Gladiators. Hercules Fights Alone. or Quest for the Mighty Sword.
01:09:53
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Greg. Anna? 2020 Texas Gladiators. That one's real. i think I've seen that one. ah Greg. Greg? Quest for the Sword.
01:10:06
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No, I'm sorry. Mark gets the point again. It's funny. I was going to actually guess the one that was that Hercules fights alone. I was going to guess that, but it's a great doesn't matter. Still still got it.
01:10:18
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Yeah, you're running away with it. Question number six. All the president's women. oh God. Some like it hard. Or gentlemen prefer big breasts.
01:10:35
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o Anna. Anna? Gentlemen prefer big breasts. You've got it, my dove. God, that one was so bad that I thought maybe it was right. Yeah.
01:10:50
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No, I was brazen enough. I did go there. Question number seven. Cop sucker two. Wow. 120 days of anal.
01:11:02
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Too much anal in my opinion. Or Pussy Demon. Mark. o Mark? I think 120 Days of That one's real.
01:11:15
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Greg? Greg? Pussy Demon? You're on the board, Greg. Are they referencing, like, 120 Days of Sodom? like I think so. That wasn't, like, a major film. That was.
01:11:31
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yeah I mean, it's right there. mean, it was different. It's right there. Jesus Christ. It's not like saying like super cock or something. like jesus All right. Fine.
01:11:43
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Question number eight. Caligula's dreams of pleasure. Emmanuel's perverse outburst. for Or paprika, the last Italian whore.
01:12:02
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Anna. Anna? Emmanuel's perverse outburst. That one's real. Oh, okay. Mark. Mark? I'll other do the first one.
01:12:15
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Caligula's dreams of pleasure? i mean, it's... God, it's going to be writer's name, but no, I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll i'll stick with that. yeah You're correct. Okay.
01:12:30
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Last question.
01:12:33
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To love a ghoul. Erotic Knights of the Living Dead. Papaya, Love Goddess of the Cannibals.
01:12:46
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What was the first one again? Anna? Papaya, Love Goddess of the Cannibals. That one's real. What was the first one again?
01:12:58
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To love a ghoul. Greg. Well, don't know. Whatever. you Greg, to love a ghoul. You've got it, Greg. But thing in not enough.
01:13:10
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Marco wins it with five big points. A dominant performance. Congratulations.
01:13:25
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It's the Batty Awards.
01:13:35
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Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards.
01:13:45
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Now you're messing with the Batty Awards.
01:13:51
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Congratulations to all the nominees.
01:13:58
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That's right. Congratulations to all our nominees. It's the Batty Awards. The awards that we give out to all those people, moments, and choices that make a bad movie so good.
01:14:10
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Greg, do you have a Batty Award? I do, ah but I want to address one thing because I forgot to bring this up. the the Mr. Kale, who's constantly trying to figure out what's happening with this curse. He's a prominent character. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like maybe part of his quest is because the father, when leaving the funeral, is like, I want you to watch the grave constantly and make sure that it's protected.
01:14:34
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So i'm assuming maybe there was some sort of, like, honor system set up or maybe he's being paid to make sure no one's doing anything to the corpse. But I've also just loved the idea that someone would be like, can you just like watch and make sure nobody does anything to my daughter's corpse? It's a weird request to ask anyone, I think.
01:14:53
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Uh, so she was a beautiful girl. It's true. I wanted to throw that out there. My Betty award though, goes to, uh, the dance that the woman is doing in the club.
01:15:04
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when he goes to the club i found her dance just mesmerizing like i was just like look at her look at it's a lot of shoulders it's a lot of like suddenly changing moves like it's a lot of like steps and then it's like in tight she's just like all over the map but she just it's just felt like she was really truly expressing herself uh and i feel like that's what dance is supposed to be You love to see it. That's very emotional. That's very personal. yeah Also very attractive. I was just like, she's the one, obviously.
01:15:37
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No, no she was oh There were a lot of babes in this movie. Let's be honest. Anna, do you have a bounty award? I do. I'm going to give it to the salt saura, hydrochloric acid that they dissolve Jan's corpse in, and specifically to the fact that the hydrochloric acid is in a big body.
01:16:04
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green glass wicker wrapped bottle a house wine wasn't it except except that it's got this a label that says salt sour which apparently is hydrochloric acid in german and a little skull and crossbones i i thought that was great yeah that was great I'm going to give my baddie award to the most Italian moment in the movie. And that's at the beginning of the movie, before Anna dies, she briefly wakes up out of her coma. yes. And the first thing she does is ask the nurse for makeup.
01:16:37
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Yes. I don't want to be seen without makeup. That was almost my baddie award. It's such a good little moment. And the nurse is like, of course, of course, of course, my darling, of course.
01:16:48
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Marco, do you have a baddie award? ah Uh, I, it's gotta go to that baboon. I mean, yeah yeah. I mean, like, I mean, the guy's, he he's, he's silent. He's a background actor, but he's, he's shining the whole time.
01:17:03
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Anytime that baboons on screen, I can't take my eyes off. It's like when we gave like Lupita Nyong'o an Oscar for like, uh, 30 seconds screen time or whatever.
01:17:14
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Yeah. got We gotta, we gotta give it to this baboon. Okay. Not in racist way. I don't mean to equate. No, no, no, no, no.
Surprising Movie Impact
01:17:25
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Oh, God. Oh, God. No, no, no, no. We absolutely do not mean that. No. That's not what I mean. Do not clip that part of the show. No, you should cut that.
01:17:36
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But no, I'm just saying, no, he's got little screen time, but he's just like, wow. Why is he? What's he doing? What's he about? We don't know.
01:17:46
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Well, Mark, thank you so much for bringing a movie that had just as much impact as that baboon.
Guest Promotions and Next Episode Teaser
01:17:52
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It was such a fun watch. Do you have anything going on?
01:17:58
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Do you have anything that you need to plug these days? Do you have anything going on? ah I'm still alive. um If anyone wants to see me, I can tell you like my number and address.
01:18:11
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Just like pop on by... No. All right, everybody go swing by Mark's house. We'll leave his phone number and address in the show notes. No, I guess I'll plug a my friend's band, Anna Altman.
01:18:26
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I'm going to do shirts for them, I think. Nice. Sick. And they're really good. I like them a lot. All right. well check them out. Let's just check us out next week. We're going be rejoined by returning guest Larry Brown. We're going to be going back to Italy, but this time for an Italian buddy comedy called Watch Out, We're Mad.
01:18:50
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Huh. Very curious about this one. excited. Yeah.
Engagement and Support Call-to-Action
01:18:56
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01:19:16
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Five stars all the way. You'd do it for your Uber driver. Wouldn't you? You can do it for us. And ah until next week, be good and goodbye.
01:19:28
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Goodbye. Bye. Buongiorno. Arrivederci.
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It's bad to be bad.
01:19:58
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That you would, if you could And you know that you should Yes, you know that you should