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Taubnernaut
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Taubnernaut was formed several months before the first pandemic lockdown with the intention of creating a power trio with the improvisational intensity of Jimi Hendrix and the darkness and heaviness of Black Sabbath. In the end, what you have is heavy psych with a variety of influences and always a hunger for improvisation.
Taubnernaut is Guitar-Vinny Taubner, Bass-Nathan Crumpler, Drums-Mike Land.
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Introduction to Podcast and Guest Band
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You are listening to something rather than nothing. Creator and host, Ken Delante. Editor and producer, Peter Bauer.
00:00:17
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This is Ken Vellante with the Something Rather Than Nothing podcast. We got Tobn or Not. Long into making this episode, long backstory. We'll skip over that for now, but we got them here right now. I just downloaded their new single, Scorcher, down off the band camp, highly recommended. Tobn or Not, welcome to the show. We got Vinnie Tobner, Nathan Frumpler. Vinnie, say hi to the folks.
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Hello, everybody. A lot of you I interact with probably on
Fan Interaction and DIY Recording
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Instagram. So it's nice to get a chance to have a much longer period where we can talk about our music, you know, because in passing and talking to friends and everything is often just brief things you say to someone. But here, this type of podcast, you can really dig deeply into the issue. So I'm looking forward to it. I appreciate it. I appreciate you saying that. And I think it's really cool to
00:01:14
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to listen to artists and how they make things. Nathan, say hello to the something rather than nothing audience. Great to see you. Hello, everyone. I'm Nathan Cromer on the basis. I regulate the fab bottom. All right. I do a lot of work around here. I'm not just the basis, you know, like whenever like we do a recording on the guy who's hitting the record button and the stop button.
00:01:36
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You know what I'm saying? He's wiring everything up, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'm saying, like, hey, let's lay down the guitar track. Let's lay down the lead track. Let's go record the vocals, you know? We do that all in our house. I don't think there's never been a time where we, like, stepped into a professional recording studio. It's just all DIY. And that's good. He told me. He used to tell me, like, almost every week that if I go, we shouldn't go in a studio because I wouldn't be able to play well in a studio because of the pressure.
00:02:05
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Yeah, I've heard cuz like there is some people back in Modesto, California. That's where I'm from He was talking about how like how nervous it was for him to like go into a studio Like so the base Jake
00:02:20
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He talked about how nervous it was for him to go into a studio, because he had that time pressure, and they were paying hourly rates. So that's money down the drain. It's pressure. It's pressure. So then he talked about how he would just record the guitar player's house. It was like, OK, there's no pressure. You can just fuck up as many times as you want. Exactly. He plays a lot better.
00:02:45
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And you know what? You can. We do that, right? We have that philosophy. You can fuck up as many times as you need to, because we've got a comfortable space with people who support us, and we love the music that we're making. But, you know, it's like... What were you talking about? What was I talking about? What's the last thing you said, because it was going off of it really good. You know I have the memory card. Why is he forcing this to the surface?
00:03:11
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I'll tell you, okay? You know you blow. We're talking about recording. You gotta try to stay up with Nathan. That's what we're trying. He came out hot out of the gate. I'm with you. Nathan was dropping back at how you pull this thing together, the pressure in the studio. I don't know, being able to make your music
Authenticity and Guitar Solos
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in your place and have it evolve maybe in a DIY rather than we get two hours, four hours, five hours to crank out this shit, we better be perfect pressure, right? That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. And what I was going to tell you before I forgot was that we can
00:03:54
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We can do things just in our own living room now. Anyone can, really. This sounds just as good and just as authentic as any, you know, high fee studio, you know? Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't go that far, but like you can make a very listenable,
00:04:11
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song in your own basement your own living room oh and we only took one take so we have that philosophy but at the same time we don't ever use it because they say here's a guitar a solo and I play the guitar solo and that's it like that's very sure bands I mean a lot of I've talked to guitars who said what I just got finished my 90th
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To be fair, I think that a lot of guitarists, they'll play out their solos, they'll play out their rhythm section. I think a lot of your philosophy, especially guitarists, solos, you throw whatever's against the wall and see if it sticks. If it just sounds good, then it sounds good. Whereas there are a lot of guitar players where if they miss a note on their guitar solo, they're like, oh no, I need to go back and redo it. I try to never do that.
00:04:56
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So I'm a little bit different in that regard. And so is Nathan, because I feel like Nathan kind of set the tone for that, you know, for us. But because when we recorded Welcome, you know, it was just like very low volumes, you know, because we were in a studio apartment. And it was fun. It was we had none of the things we have now, but we had enough to make an album.
00:05:24
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Yeah, adapt into what you have right there.
Exploring Artistic Themes and Definitions
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So tell us about, folks, I've listened to some Tom Nunn for some time here, and we're going to play a track for you so you can hear it. I always find it a little difficult, typifies.
00:05:46
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wonderful guitar work, kind of like a stoner-doom type of vibe. But there's a lot of elements, a lot of visual elements. I know on your recent single you had a beautiful image by Stephen, I think it's Yo Yada, the image on that scorcher. Tell us about scorcher. There's something you just dropped. And folks,
00:06:09
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Tom the Knot stuff on Bandcamp, Escalating Fetishes. They had a Tom the Knot EP. You'll find all that there. We'll talk about it. But what about Scorcher? What about the artwork and stuff like that? Some good energy around that.
00:06:23
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Now the, so the artwork has always been me doing it because when I started doing the Instagram gig and I was in touch with so many people, thousands of people in the underground metal IG, you know, whatever, that part that we used to make up.
00:06:39
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We really got this theme of the astronaut, right? In all the different ones, except the first cover, which was fine. I thought it was good for our first release to have that cover. It didn't have to be fancy. It didn't have to be whatever. We were just guys throwing something out in the wind and seeing if it sticks. Let me talk about that. Absolutely. The first album cover is basically, I volunteer at a cat shelter. Once an animal shelter has cats and dogs. Wonderful. That's awesome.
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There's this one room where there's this little cat bed on top of the shelf, and they have a little welcome mat on it. And there's this one cat that just, her name's Tig, and she just hangs out in that little cat bed. And so I just took a picture of it, because I take a picture of a lot of the cats. I was looking at it, I'm like, this is going to make a pretty good album cover.
00:07:29
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So that was like back when we were like paracousia. And so at first it said like paracousia. I dropped our first single. I think her single was like welcome or whatever. Put it on YouTube. And so I had to like change her name. I had to take that down and like edit the image and like put it back. Actually, I don't think I ever put it back up. I think I just took it down. Hey, maybe now you got a work assignment out of this. Jeez. Ken, have you heard that album, the first one?
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's very different than the other stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When was, when was that one released? Oh, 2020. Yeah. 2020. 2020. Yeah. 2020 was a crazy year.
00:08:09
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Yeah, absolutely. Hey, so I wanted to hit you up with a couple of the main questions of the show. I'm going to ask one of the big ones, and then we'll cut the scorcher, which will be fun. We'll listen to that overhead, everybody. But one of the big questions, and I'm just going to throw it out to both of you, probably jump in on it, that we ask in the show is, what is art?
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What is art? What are you up to? You're trying to create good music, trying to create art? What is art? Well, in terms of art with us, we use sound, right? And also rhythm, which is just different, you know, pauses between a line. And it's very mathematical in a way, if you think about it that way. But it's also very intuitive. Art.
00:08:58
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can be an expression of anything you want. And then you put it into the art exhibition or whatever you're showing it at and what it means and what it is transforms with every single person who looks at it.
00:09:11
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you know, because everybody has their own opinion of art and their own opinion of how it affects them emotionally or, you know, different things like that. Some people get an emotional impression from a piece of art. I don't think art necessarily means anything. Like I have some lines, for example, when I'm playing solo, I have some lines that I would say that are completely wrong. I mean, in terms of notes I'm playing.
00:09:37
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I'm not following the normal use of those notes and creating kind of a dissonance. But it's like that.
00:09:51
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Well, you know, that's that's enough from me. But yeah, well, no, I mean, I think part of the thing is you're talking like the the the general sense of like creating dissonance, you know, like, like out of out of that. And sometimes it feels like it's it's just right or feel as it's not just right. But even on the dissonance and styles of music, I think like a lot of metal and dissonance, it's
00:10:14
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it's right when it's wrong in that sense sometimes. So Nathan, what do you think? You're an artist. What is art? What are you up to?
00:10:25
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Art as bare minimum is something that it has some type of response from you. You can look at mountain range and you really like to look at that mountain range for whatever reason. That has some type of response. Obviously, that mountain range wasn't created by a human being, but nonetheless, that is kind of like the
00:10:49
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To me, that's like the bare minimum of what art is. It gets a response from you. And so there are a lot of people who argue about what is or is not art. And a lot of times, their argument is usually just like, whatever this art piece are criticizing.
00:11:06
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it didn't take any kind of like skill or anything you know someone like tape a banana to like a white backdrop like all that's art it's like there ought to be like all that's art because it doesn't conjure up there's no skill involved which there's to be fair to to be fair their criticism like there is a lot of like great art that dick
00:11:26
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that does take a lot of skill. I've seen pictures of these sculptures. It's insane. If somebody told me that some way to magic wand and turn a human being into stone, and that's how that is, that's more believable than somebody actually sculpting this sculpture. Because I've seen pictures where the clothes on this woman
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It looks like it looks like it's see-through, you know, that's how good this art is. Yeah. Yeah. How good this culture is, you know? And so if you're comparing that to like a banana tape to a wall, I got to understand people saying like, okay, I got to say people saying like, okay, this sculpture is art, but like the banana tape to the wall isn't. Well, you have to look at it in context because art is a living breathing thing. That's why we have different periods like Baroque and
00:12:16
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Renaissance, whatever. So like this art of the 20s, 2000s that is, as I've noticed, has been very autobiographical. You'll see a lot of artists listing the title of the thing and a little blurb about the materials used and then usually an explanation of the art. But they're just filling out pages and pages of like
00:12:42
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conceptually what it means. And it could be a banana taped on a wall, but they say what it means to them and what conceptually it means. And so art can get a little funky like that. And I think it can go so far in that direction that that people are kind of scared of art. I mean, how many regular people do you see going to the opera? No, it's usually like some people who have maybe gotten more education or this or that. But sure.
00:13:06
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I don't know. I'm derailing now, but I would say it'd be really but I think there's a lot of artists are just like Insane, you know, like if they weren't like a if they weren't making a living being an artist and they'd be homeless because they couldn't be So like from like that perspective like
00:13:32
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There are people who create these like off the wall, batch of crazy looking art. And so there's just a lot of normal people who look at it like, okay, that's just like, you know.
00:13:42
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It looks like you just threw a bunch of different colored paint at the wall and that's all you did. There's a lot of that. So it's like Jackson Pollock or something? Yeah, something like that. Do you think his was a little bit more meaningful because he was the first one ever to do that technique? Like splatters and spills?
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You know, but I'm not into abstract art. I guess in this regard, I'd be more like a normie. You know, I like somebody drawing a picture of like something. Yeah. Yeah. Like representation wise. Yeah. Yeah. Like Monet or Manet or Vincent van Gogh or those guys. Yeah. Yeah. I would prefer to look at that. Yeah. I'm a huge fan of Vincent van Gogh. I really like his art. Yeah. Oh, we're going into art history.
Artistic Inspirations and Emotional Reactions
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What's your favorite artist?
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My favorite artist, I would say in photography, I love Diane Arbus. As far as painters go, I love the dark art of Francis Bacon. I do love Van Gogh. I love Munch. Writers, I'm really into writing.
00:14:56
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Just curious that you ask the writer Cormac McCarthy who did like The Road and The Country for Old Men and that stuff. He just released his first new book in like 16 years and he has another one coming out in a couple months.
00:15:11
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for Mac McCarthy. Yeah, I love different types of art, but painting, I would say painting as far as an art form, I adore music, but there's something too about painting that I think painters are like the magicians. I'm so intrigued by somebody pulling off an amazing painting because it's such a different way to depict.
00:15:39
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the world. There seems to be magic going on there when it works effectively. I think people feel the same thing in their body about music a lot of times. Do you get goosebumps when you listen to music and you know you and your friends because your music freaks? You do get goosebumps and you get excited when you hear the riff and ready to jump. Not everybody's like that, but I think that's what's fun about it. That's what I get into.
00:16:10
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Yeah, it's all about the feeling. And I think some bands really, like in the old days, like, for example, like a Santana concert or a Rolling Stones concert, those are some crazy ass concerts. And the people are feeling the music. People aren't even thinking anymore. A lot of them are literally not thinking anymore because they maybe took acid or something. So but anyway. They're thinking a whole lot. They're thinking a whole lot or not at all.
00:16:40
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Yeah, so that pumped you up. And I like these small room shows, but I would like it if you go to a small room show, you can still have an audience that's rowdy and speaks up. And when I get an audience like that, it doesn't matter if there's only five or 10 people, then that's worth it.
00:16:56
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It's it's it's fun. Hey, uh, hey listeners, we're gonna go over to top the knots a New single their scorcher you can find on band camp We're gonna play that and be back around and chat with top the night his scorcher coming in hot from, Ohio
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00:19:27
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It's all there to take. You could leave us in a fire. And I think it will argue over our votes while they fill the night. These things are nice.
Metal Music and Philosophical Musings
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What really annoys me is that people are like, oh, we need a tax Elon Musk. It's like, here's a bear idea. Make it so the government stops giving them fucking money. Hey, I hear you. I hear you, Nathan. I hear you, Nathan.
00:21:23
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Everybody everybody getting paid nobody giving back to nobody On this this Babylon bees podcast Yeah, where he told that like he would have gone bankrupt multiple times. It wasn't for the government bailing them on bailing them out. Oh
00:21:42
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Okay, so instead of like keeping him on life support and then like taxing him, how about we just take him off of life support? He sinks in swims based on his own genius. And I don't know if he's genius or not. But he is definitely charismatic and definitely effective. But I think he also has blind spots of the, you know, he doesn't I mean, a man who has that much wealth and doesn't talk about how he's creating love for other people seems kind of what would you say the selfish?
00:22:12
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Yeah. Right. Yeah. I think him being selfish to me is not that big of an issue. It's like the fact that we taxpayers have to keep giving him money, whatever his company goes under. Doesn't he just do the formal process of Chapter 11 bankruptcy for a business or something, right? I'm not entirely sure, but I know he gets money from the government, and the government should not be giving me out money. Yeah.
00:22:35
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Hey, what I wanted to know, and maybe we're getting to this to begin with, I had a different question for you guys. What's metal?
00:22:48
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What's metal? I adore metal. I adore Doom metal. What's metal? I don't ask that a lot. In the old days, it was easy because there were not as many bands. It was easy. And you would have someone walk into a bar just because they heard someone say something about a band, watch the band, and then say, yeah, we should sign these guys. You know, there's lucky shit like that happening back then.
00:23:08
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But once you get into the 2000s, and Nathan actually knows a lot about this, you just get so many friggin bands that what you can do is create little networks where you're popular, but it is very hard to actually break out and get the whole community. And it's also hard to do that because metal now has all these different amalgamations, you know, stoner metal, psychedelic metal.
00:23:29
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Sometimes people combine those, you know? So a medal is only in the eye of the beholder at this point. So this is kind of interesting, I feel. And then you have some young kids, 16, 17, 18, who are actually learning the old stuff and getting into metal. So that's cool, too. I think what is a really good question, because like you have like the old guard, like Black Sabbath, you know, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest.
00:23:54
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And a lot of their stuff, like you can find stuff that's like maybe even like more aggressive, but it still classifies like, you know, hard rock. And so what is metal, what isn't metal is like a really good question considering that like, a lot of like modern music can get like, like really like heavier and like really aggressive, especially with like modern recording techniques.
00:24:17
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Yeah. Yeah. And so, um, me personally, I think the difference between like, like, I, I know some people are going to disagree with me, but I, I could say like ACDC, I could say, um, uh, Motorhead to be like hard rock, you know, uh, somebody call it class rock or whatever, you know, hard rock. There's something metal about them too, especially motor. And so like, there are bands like, you know, um, black Sabbath and Iron Man where they have songs are just, they're not as fast and not as aggressive as like so many ACDC songs or some, uh,
00:24:47
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that was other than Motorhead songs. So my mentality is there is something a little bit more malevolent than when it comes to a metal song. Even when you have some power metal song, like Dragon Force, where they're like pretending to be the good guys or whatever.
00:25:06
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I still think there is this siren edge to it that's at least a hint of malevolence that a lot of hard rock just doesn't have. Hard rock is more like a big brute that you're frightened of it because he can beat you up, but metal is more like someone who's like,
00:25:24
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more sneaky, somebody's more in the back, that kind of malevolence, that's like worse because at least a big brute you can see coming and you can plan for that. Whereas somebody who sneaks up on you, that's like worse because they're waiting for you to turn your back. So I think that's the difference between heavy metal and hard rock and I'm pretty sure
00:25:47
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People who've never listened to any of them, if you're like, you grew up on jazz or classical, you're not going to have any idea what the fuck I'm talking about. But that's the best I can do. Yeah, no. I like to think about the question sometimes. And one of the things I like is there's something about the sound, the doom, that's like this underneath. I heard it's so different.
00:26:12
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the basis for the track Scorcher there, there's just this beautiful doom element foreboding and doom's always foreboding. And I find that a lot with, I hear that in The Cure, some of The Cure and I hear it in some goth that there's this kind of slow
00:26:31
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slow plotting and some of the old stuff that is like this is doomy and it's not metal but like there's a doomy element that you find in that that just is underneath do metal and I get really interested in those in those pieces because I'm trying to describe something that
00:26:49
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You want to think of the cure in terms of Doom, but of their album, Faith. There's tracks that are just slow. They're almost going backwards, and it's that impending kind of slowness and heaviness. What I really like about Doom Mel is, one, the tone of the guitar is really sludgy and dirty. Yeah. Another thing is, it just seems like a really laid back genre. You can be a virtuoso and play a bunch of
00:27:18
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What's that guy's name? Yngwie Malastink has guitar solos. You don't have to do that. That's not what it's crafted around. To me, it just seems like a really laid-back genre.
00:27:33
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I want to I want to knock you over with the big big question in the show because you just want to get it in there right now as to why is there something rather than nothing? I got Nathan here and I got Vinnie here and they're looking at each other and I know
00:27:49
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I know the last time I went first, so you want to go first? Yeah, Nathan, Nathan's rocking in. The reason why there's something rather than nothing because somebody put something there, you know. So if you have nothing, then like that is an opportunity for you to put something. Yeah. So we're artists. You make art. That's what we put into the nothing.
00:28:11
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Yeah, to make it something. I think that's an underlying theme. That's an underlying theme of the show. Yeah, Vinny. Yeah. He's creating meaning there is what he's saying. And I believe in that we all create our own meaning in events. And there are two different levels or degrees of accuracy. But for me, there's something rather than nothing because there's always been something.
00:28:33
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There's never been nothing. So there's always going to be a development of something rather than nothing. That's going to try to fill out the space, even though you look at space and we're basically the size of a grain of sand on a beach. That also is another thing that should cause people to take pause and think about their life, right?
00:28:55
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Yeah, that's such a big I am there's this video where it's a it's a flash out as far as like perspective of you on the city you on a city block you on the earth you in the like this galaxy you in this like part of the universe and then you and you know, it's like this zoom out and Wait, did you know to the Boston planetarium?
00:29:18
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I've been there a long time ago. Is that where they show that? It's where I saw it. Okay, like a similar type of thing, like a video that showed you that same type of perspective. Yeah, Tom Hanks was guiding us. Yeah, and I love that. I love that perspective. I think that the question gets on it.
00:29:37
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hey a couple things um you know i just wanted to throw it out there if we give us some details where you know the listeners to you know find the stuff that you do on instagram things like that but uh you know maybe sometime we get you guys to pop on doing like an instagram live from the podcast or play a track or just hang out and chat there it'd be really fun to do um particularly after the episode but um
00:30:02
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Where do listeners find your stuff?
Where to Find Tobn or Not's Music
00:30:05
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I mentioned Bandcamp. I have a lot of bands on here. Bandcamp is a great place to go. I just did today to get some more tubbed or not. But where do folks find you?
00:30:14
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We put our stuff on DistroKid, and they put our music up on pretty much anything imaginable. The ones I've never heard of, like Deezer. I've heard a little bit about it, but I've never used it. Yeah, exactly. They pull stuff up on YouTube, on Amazon Music, on Spotify. Yeah, like you said, Deezer or whatever. Just pretty much anything imaginable. Our music is probably there.
00:30:41
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That's why we had a really stunted idea of how many people are actually listening, because the only statistics I ever follow are Spotify's and Bandcamp. But it is nice to think that we probably have a lot of supporters on Deezer or, you know, what is it that the, what did Mac do their version of
00:31:03
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Apple music you're where I've known nothing about Mac. Okay, yeah Well, it's like Spotify basically, right? Well, the thing is yeah where you have these kind of like smaller community I think I even find it on the podcast too because in the sermon list similar sense of distribution it pops up in different places and in its tracked or known or there's activity in different places you kind of
00:31:26
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Hunt around in and see you know who's listening and where people are Listening so it's a little bit different when you try to hustle and kind of like track all that type of stuff But it's great. They hear that your stuff is everywhere and then of course Of course for some of the actual, you know download tracks Via being camp and of course top and not of course have you have a good?
00:31:51
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a presence and networking on Instagram where we've interacted. So, I mean, it's been a nice thing for
00:32:00
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You know to see you guys in the work that you do and in listeners We've been planning on this. We had a temp before and so, you know, this has been an episode been waiting to get out to you I'm really excited guys to to have you on and to make this thing to make this thing real and to create our thing here and um, I
00:32:23
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really appreciate you. And there's any final words, like what to listen to or what magazine article to read or whatever. Right. In terms of reviews or magazine articles, there isn't much out right now. But we have the new song Scorcher. And the easiest way, if you're on Instagram, to find our music or find anything we're involved in, you could just go to our link tree, which is the hyperlink in the bio section of the
00:32:51
Speaker
What's it called? Someone's profile. Yeah, yeah. The bio in the bio of my profile, I just hit the link to linktree.com. And, and you can find everything we've done, even stuff people don't know about, like the, what's that thing that you've been using, you can chat with people, but it's, there's more levels of safety, I guess, perhaps, or
00:33:15
Speaker
You're talking about Discord? Yeah, Discord. We don't have Discord, but nobody's in there. So enjoy our Discord. Go to Discord now. There's only one way to start. Go over to tell, you know, let's have folks go over to Discord. Yeah. Yeah, go to our Discord. You can hand out there and chat with people. I guess you can chat to each other when you get there. Go to our YouTube channel, because we'll drop our own podcast there.
00:33:38
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The way we do our podcast is we'll just talk for like an hour, maybe two hours, and then we'll chop it up into 30 minute chunks and just release it every Friday.
00:33:48
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Yeah, one chunk is released every Friday. Awesome. And so that one day can spend a couple of months. And so actually, I think the one I just dropped now, today, I think it's like an hour long. Because usually I try to find a good spot to chop it in half. Yeah. But this one ended up being like an hour long because I couldn't find a good spot. Yeah, it's like what? Nathan talks more. Let me fish. Let me fish. Let me fish.
00:34:21
Speaker
We talk about politics, our podcast. For some reason, we decided to do a political compass test. Yeah. And so this guy started it, and I think it took us 45 minutes to actually do it. And so either I chop it off into the first 15 minutes and the last five minutes or whatever, or I just leave it all together. So I decided to just leave it all together and just put it up there.
00:34:46
Speaker
So yeah, go to our podcast if you like podcasts and hear us talk about goofy shit.
00:34:53
Speaker
Yeah, no, I love it. It's great hanging with you, Vinny, and great to see you, Nathan, here from Taubn or not. Really, really great to connect. And everybody, check out the music, support this cool music and what they're doing. Yeah, I told you to check out the link. Oh, all right. Oh, good idea. Any last words? Oh, God, this could be a D. I offered last words. You get last words. I offered last words.
00:35:23
Speaker
Go ahead and go to our Twitter account as well, at top or not, at Twitter. Go ahead and go there. I run it. I try to keep politics at minimum. I try to just keep it music, but sometimes things happen and I say things. You want to talk. You want to talk, yeah. He's very reactionary.
00:35:49
Speaker
No, I'm kidding. It's just a big and toned man, and this guy can go off on politics like no other. Sometimes it feels like he's Mussolini on the balcony. What? Oh, that's right. He's in charisma, not because of politics. Because of his charisma, and everybody's listening to him.
00:36:09
Speaker
Well, hey guys, again, great pleasure. Folks, check out Taberna, check out the stuff that they put out there. You guys keep rocking and we'll talk again soon. Sound good? Yeah, definitely. Take care, guys. Love you. Thanks, guys. See ya. This is something rather than nothing.