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Trail to South Korea Episode 4!
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This week on T2SK, Brodie is back on with Mikey, Charlie and Sarah as they discuss their training weeks then dive into travel plans, navigating travel, being in a different environment pre-race, and each of their approaches to the taper.
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Transcript
00:00:26
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Hello and welcome to episode four of our special series, trail Trail to South Korea. My name's Brody and I'm one of the regular hosts of Peek for Shoots podcast.
00:00:38
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And today I am joined again by our three amazing guests. So we've got Sarah who's just arrived in Sydney, I believe. Sarah, you've done a, ah well, we're just talking off air and you've been a bit slower than what Mikey thinks he could drive across WA in. um How are you feeling after the big journey? i'm I'm glad to be here. It's actually a real relief um to be in the cool weather. Like um I loved,
00:01:06
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Getting to go for a nice run at lunchtime today. That felt really a real treat, but yeah, glad to be somewhat more settled. There are pro hours now. Midday runs. Yeah. Unemployed, living the life. And we have the two boys from Canberra, back in Canberra again, Charlie and Mikey. How are you guys?
00:01:29
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Hello. Good. Shalom. Yes. We're, we're quite well. We've made it back from. mantebe Yeah. And record, record speed back from brought to Canberra as well.
00:01:40
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Yeah, it was actually, I won't go into it too much, but it was a really long drive. um Took quite a while and it was quite exhausting. I don't know if any of you guys know what a long drive feels like, but the four and a half hours got pretty hard towards the end of it. We had four and a half hours of breakfast.
00:02:00
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I can't believe. Yeah, definitely. All right. I have 15 hour days. 14 hour days. Yeah. We saw some enews and baby enews and echidnas and lots and lots of goats. Goats. There you go. You go. You're on Animal Watch again.
00:02:16
Speaker
um All right. Well, we might jump straight into it this week. We're going to cover some ah how we all navigate travel or how you all navigate travel in terms of um heading to a big race and what you're thinking about. um But first we might cover off a little bit of what's been happening training wise. And Sarah, last time you joined us, you were a little bit sick on the mic. You sound a bit better today. How are you? um have Have you been going and you've been able to do any training at all? Yeah, um I feel a little bit sick as an understatement. I feel like that's the sickest I've probably ever been in my life. um But no, I'm definitely a lot better now and I now um can talk a little bit easier. and I'm not coughing as much, which is great.
00:03:03
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But yeah, I did, ah I got, I stopped in on the Blue Mountains on the way um across and went for a nice run in the Blue Mountains. It was a nice rainy day um and just sort of went down further steps. Like basically the last part of um all of the races there just went down the steps and only, yeah, it did about 10K, but it was good to get out on some hills and Some stairs, my calves were very sore the next day. um I think they're still tender. It's called Dunston Special, which is like just 10K of running, but about 5,000 meters of climbing. Wow, I did not do that, but that sounds epic. I probably would have died.
00:03:43
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Charlie's exaggerating.
00:03:47
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so I, yeah. And then the, and then basically I've, I think I've done most sessions that I've been, um, scheduled for this week. Uh, definitely felt a bit like slow and not feeling like I've got pep in my step, but I'll, you know, I've got two more, I've got two more weeks to fill that pep in my step. So that's fine. Um, distrusting the process and.
00:04:11
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Yeah, focusing on fully recovered like feeling fully recovered. So um I head to Korea tomorrow 5am to leave the house and I haven't packed yet. So that could have happened somewhere in here this afternoon. Yeah, cool. Wow. So you're off tomorrow and therefore you have about two weeks before the race. Is that right? In Korea? Yeah, about two weeks. So I'll essentially get over there and then um I'll do like my last sort of longish run over there. um I won't get to go out on course because I'll still be in Seoul that time, but I'll head to, I think it's the, is it the back of Pakistan mountains or those ones that are in Seoul? yes
00:04:51
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um mountain Yeah, those ones. So I've got to do that, um which I'm excited about. Cool. Awesome. Fantastic. All right. Well, we might come back to that a little bit in a moment. um Mikey, you're back in Canberra this week. What's been happening training wise? I saw a nice little picture of your Australian uniform on one of your Strava runs this week. What have you been up to?
00:05:13
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um I actually felt really good after the camp for the first couple of days. and So I did a fairly big like threshold session on Wednesday. like We had our last big session on Sunday in the mountains. like We did a session long run up around Bogong, which is which was fun, with some flat and some climbing work. And then it still felt pretty good up until Wednesday. Did did like six by five flat threshold. And then have been doing some heat stuff around that.
00:05:43
Speaker
which I'm sure Charlie will also talk about at depth and in like and at length. But yeah, have been feeling pretty good. I think today I've just i've just i've just come off the back of like everyone where I felt like garbage. so I'm probably underestimating how how good I felt the past few days. but um Mike, you got dropped by Mike Carroll today. Yeah, pretty much. But that happens to everyone. Yeah.
00:06:08
Speaker
All right, so the threshold session in the week looked pretty good, so it sounds like you're probably in good shape. And I guess you always have these ups and downs within a week and across the week sometimes. But I don't really have... What have you been doing for... Sorry.
00:06:27
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No, no, I was going to say we're in school holidays now. So like I've got from now until Korea, you know, to just fully recover, which is, which is good. I'll be able to just relax and read books and whatever. Yeah, cool. Fantastic. What, uh, what have you been doing for heat training? What's, what's that look like this week?
00:06:45
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So in Bright, we did a little bit of sauna stuff, like 30 minutes in the afternoon after a run, um just like quite hot. And then we've just been doing passive or active heat training. So like just putting on extra layers for runs. So like yesterday I did.
00:07:06
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a run inside on the treadmill with a heater on me with like three layers on and i think i might have gone a bit too hard on that on that heat heat run which is maybe why i feel a bit blasted today but um yeah just like wearing extra layers on runs basically just to sweat as much as possible is the best you know pardon do you know how many liters of fluid you lost like how much you don't sweat So much like my, my two layers of my clothes were like completely soaked. Like I'd sprayed them with like the shower. How do you just take layers off? yeah I know it's very tempting. And you were doing that inside? Is that right, Mikey? Yeah. Yeah. On the treadmill. Yeah. Um, I feel like anytime I run on a treadmill inside, I'm sweating lots anyway, let alone adding layers. So it's probably an effective way of doing it.
00:07:57
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Yeah, I think so. Um, but yeah, I had a meeting with the precision people like while we're at camp and they just gave me a few tips for heat training stuff just for the next week or so, which is good. And chuck Charlie does a bit of research on it and reading and stuff anyway. So he's, he's pretty well versed, which is good. Yeah, cool. So are you following and Charlie can answer if he wants, um, are you following some sort of protocol or are you just sort of just trying to get in as many sessions as you can before you head to Korea?
00:08:26
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Well, I think what's been really interesting is um I had been under the assumption that the best time to do it was like two weeks to one week to go and you just go really hard for a week. um But out of my uni actually and and James from Precision said the same thing. There's been research coming out that's saying If you can do it consistently for like a month like three between two and four days a week. yeah Seven to fourteen exposures but yeah in total in total. You don't have to do a really intense period of it like you just you basically get these adaptations and then you keep them there and you just touch them up and then yeah two weeks to go one way to go you just do it a couple times.
00:09:11
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and you shouldn't lose any adaptations so that's kind of what we've been doing is it's like pretty much on my easy on our easy days you know we we rug up or um rather than doing a really intense period of it because like with say with two weeks to go if you did seven really hot days and you did something really hot every day likelihood is you're going to pull up. You're not going to be getting as fresh as you should be in that period. So basically James said to me, yeah definite like if you can do like from four to three weeks out, if you can do seven to 10 exposures and then in the two weeks out, you can just do one touch up exposure per week, like then that will be enough to maintain the adaptations or will go a long way to maintaining the adaptation. um ah just yeah Just quickly touching on there, you said,
00:10:01
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like I've heard you guys talk a few times like you're talking to um the the guys and girls from Precision Hydration, is that is that part of like their support of you? Like an important, it seems like a really important part and it sounds really cool that they're getting behind not only just like getting giving you product but like they're actually really helping you prepare Like that nearly seems more meaningful, like that sort of support that they're giving you. Like, is that something that was there from the get-go or is that something that you guys have developed a relationship with them ah along the way? Yeah, I mean, I've had i've tried to set up meetings. james is James is the contact and he's pretty much the the guy that we I have meetings with. And as if I set them up, then he's he'll find time to do them. You know, like as long as you're proactive about setting it up, then he's really keen to chat to you about stuff.
00:10:50
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um yeah like He loves talking about how he helped Hayden with his CCC win. Heat prep as well, which is fine. I haven't been quite as good as as doing that as Mikey, but I'm really lucky, like I'm doing a sports science degree and one of my lecturers is currently doing his PhD in heat adaptations for specific environments. um yeah So he's been really helpful as well. Like it's literally what he's doing his PhD in currently.
00:11:20
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Um, so I, and I, I think it's just about like, if you have these questions, just ask people, you know, and people are always happy to help. So I think that's, I think that's pretty important because there's a lot of these like weird little things in our very niche sport that are very niche to the sport.
00:11:40
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Heat training is not necessarily niche to the sport, but there's a lot of things, you know, for races like how all of us, things that all us four might just assume is normal, you know, say with packing your pack or with certain things, but like a lot of people just don't get that and they might not know it until they know it. So like one thing I'd say that, you know, anyone listening is like, don't be afraid to ask, you know, whether it's us, whether it's other people in the sport, like,
00:12:08
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People are keen and happy to talk about nerdy tri-running stuff if you want to talk about it. So don't be afraid to ask. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's fantastic. Cool. All right. Well, we touched on Mikey's training. Charlie, what have you been up to? I saw you also get out for a session and somehow i managed to run 240 for one minute in a session. What happened there? I think you did it. A three minute, a two minute rep at three minute case, but you've run 240. Were you going for a segment?
00:12:37
Speaker
No, I don't know what happened there. I think the GPS motor we got. It's probably one of the yeah weird segments that's like miss-mapped. Charlie couldn't possibly have done that. said, not everything actually knows what 240 is. It doesn't seem like a running speed for Mikey. Sub subs-sub-sub-3 minicase don't exist. For me, it's pretty standard. like I would go out and probably sometimes do an easy run at pace.
00:12:57
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Um, no, I'm kidding. Yeah. So, um, like Markie, we had pretty big long run on Sunday. Um, and yeah, with two by 20 minutes, which were pretty solid, like we ran them probably at race effort, but you know, they were after three hours, two and a half, three hours. Um, and we did about 2,300 meters of climbing that day. So that was a pretty big run.
00:13:23
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um I actually didn't run on Monday cause I was just like, I'm going to give myself every chance to recover from that. I just did two hours on the bike with my partner, Lil. Tuesday, easy jog, Wednesday. Yeah, I just did basically because I had been injured for,
00:13:41
Speaker
like two weeks, um I came back from that and kind of got straight back into like big sessions, um like as in big, long tempos that we usually do. yeah So I just don't quite have that ah speed that I usually get. So I'm just pretty much spending these last two weeks just doing some faster stuff, just to remember what that feels like and get the coordination back. um It usually doesn't take too long to come back to run fast. So like I'll do K reps on Saturday. on saturday Um, just to get that again. And then I've just been jogging, doing heat stuff basically in between like, um, easy rounds, been doing like hitting off. I did a bike session. Mikey did it on Mike was on the treadmill, but I put my bike under the heater. Um, and was really rugged up. And that was gross. Actually one, the worst part about doing this heat training.
00:14:33
Speaker
is that how much clothes you have to wash. Yeah. Like on every row you have three layers and you need to wash every layer because they just get so wet. It's, it's pretty gross. Um, that'd just be a a normal occurrence for Ludo. and Yeah. I would guess.
00:14:49
Speaker
Yeah, except I don't wear a jumper when I run in brief. Yeah. that's home It's much more pleasant to do it that way. I might try that. Just head out for a rubbish t-shirt. That might be nice. But yeah, other than that, just trying to feel good. um This last two weeks before a race is always quite funny because you're focusing on recovering from the block you've just done and thinking about what you need to do to feel good for a race.
00:15:16
Speaker
And I actually find it kind of distracts me from the race because I'm just kind of thinking about, you know, I'm all my runs being like, do I feel good? What do I need to do to feel good? So just in that weird, and we're not quite tapering yet. Like we'll still run probably 110, 120 K this week, but, um, starting to dial it down and just, you know, everything that comes with the taper.
00:15:40
Speaker
You need to pick up a tape hobby. A tape hobby? Yeah, usually I rub my bike, but I don't do that. I've got uni to do. I'm writing just assignments upon assignments, which is a fun tape hobby. Definitely, definitely.
00:15:54
Speaker
Yeah, cool. Okay. Well, it sounds like everyone's training is going well. Sarah's back at it, which is good to see. We wanted to touch on, ah given that Sarah's traveling tomorrow and you guys will be traveling next week, um we wanted to touch on like what what you're thinking about and what you've planned, I guess.
00:16:14
Speaker
Around your travel, um I think when we compare, I was having a thinking like you and you compared to like a road race, um a running road race, a lot of people will travel and do a marathon or something. Those travels can be maybe slightly ah less complicated because it's in the middle of a big city.
00:16:31
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um it's ah It's on the road so you don't maybe necessarily need to go and check out the course. um Whereas in trail running there can be a lot of factors that you think about when you're travelling and getting to the race in terms of like it might be a bit harder to get to the location.
00:16:50
Speaker
it's important, maybe you might find it important to check the course, that sort of stuff. So what what did you think about Sarah when you were planning your travel to Korea? um and And what made you, what were what were the reasons behind your decision maybe to sort of head off tomorrow and get there two weeks before? um Yeah, I guess I opted for going a little bit longer knowing that I don't um have, like I've had no access to trails or or mountains.
00:17:18
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um I guess since Hounslow. So yeah, I guess I always would try to get my sort of like a long gish run over there. um Yeah, and like I suppose it was just possible. So um yeah, that's why I went over a little bit earlier. um I and then just really making sure that I planned to be near the trails and um making sure that I can optimize where those runs are and I guess the main task for each day is to do that training now. So um I think it can be really nice to sort of simplify life a little bit when you get away. um Just got to figure out where to run and get the right food in and and sleep. So it can actually be really quite nice. So um yeah, we're going to be in Seoul for the first part.
00:18:10
Speaker
and then we've got a couple of days um and on Juju Island and there's some good yeah mountains and trails and stairs there and then um I guess the the week um before the race we'll be heading to that sort of race area. I've got a couple of days there which will give us a chance to do some course wreckies and ah hopefully hopefully Yeah, hopefully it's accessible to do short runs on the course and and then get to see the whole course over the those days. That would be the i the idea. But I haven't actually looked into the practical elements of getting around and um that sort of thing. i'll I'll figure that out when I'm there to see if it's possible to do all of it. But um yeah, so I guess that's that's the main the main plan, really. Yeah. And when you have the, sorry, good Joe.
00:19:03
Speaker
Do you think you'll do much, like what will your long run be? Do you think you'll do a decent one or just keep it pretty crazy? um I think I have 26 or something planned or scheduled.
00:19:16
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So it's sort of a bit in between, um, or maybe it's 23. I can't remember, but I'll do that on, um, on 24 I'll do that on Monday. So yeah, essentially tomorrow's all day flying. And then I'll do a shakeout run on the Sunday and then the long run on the Monday. Um, so yeah, I guess like, cause the race is on what day is the race on it's on. I think it's a Thursday or Friday. So it's like Friday. It's slightly earlier in the year Friday.
00:19:45
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um So yeah, I guess that'll be the last main one. But yeah, that one won't be on course, unfortunately. But um I think it'll just be good to get a trail run done for fourth day. Yeah. ready And when when you do get to the area and you're going to check the course or you plan to maybe try and check some of the course, are you with any other runners then or are you still biased or with your partner then?
00:20:15
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Oh yeah, so me and Kelly. So Kelly comes across on the Monday. um So I'm essentially going to be traveling with her for the two weeks. So yeah, we'll be doing, I guess, most of our runs together.
00:20:28
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um And yeah, then I think there's four four or five of us girls are staying at, um I don't know what the hotel is, but it's in neither race area. So that'll be, I think Jess, Patricia, Kelly, and and then another girl, Lauren, who isn't in the team, but she's going individual for Australia. So, um and I met her at the World Champs a few years back. So yeah, there'll be a good crew of us, I think. So I guess it'll just be, um whoever we can tee up runs with will do together and, um, yeah, it should be fun. I reckon it's always good to have a good crew and hear, hear how everyone else's training is going and everyone ah obviously has their different strengths. So it's always good to hear, um, you know, what other people have done. You know, I've learned so much from just being on this podcast from Charlie and Mikey about everything. So it's always good to chat with others.
00:21:24
Speaker
yeah Yeah, that'll be really fun. That sounds cool. One last thing before we move to the other boys. In terms of um ah making the travel process as smooth as possible, do you do anything specific even in regards to like what you eat or any of your routines or where you stay or any of those things?
00:21:45
Speaker
um I found it actually quite hard to figure out where to stay. Um, you know, when you've got a lot of different names, it don't really mean all that much. Um, so I had chat GPT helped me out a little bit. Um, but, uh, I don't know, I think I'm doing anything specific. I guess I just, I tried to find, um, you know, convenient central locations at least where I can, um, uh, get on trains to places. Uh, we did hire a car on, on Juju Island because it's pretty small, but
00:22:16
Speaker
We don't have many days there. And so I think just to to for ease of getting around. um In terms of food, I'm taking a little bit of um just emergency food. um Yeah, I guess I i don't eat meat or or dairy or anything like that. So it can I guess I'm not sure what it'll be like. I know that there's There'll be a few places, but I guess it can be a little bit harder to just pick stuff up on the way that you know is gonna be sort of a complete completely nutritious meal at the times that you need it, i.e. after like a long run if you're in the middle of nowhere and gotta get a train back. So definitely would take some like recovery drink and things to just have available and some not bars. And peanut butter, always travel with peanut butter.
00:23:03
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Yeah, Mikey, um, I have a recommendation for you in Seoul is me near Namsan National Park, which is in the middle with the one with the tower. There's a restaurant that's called the vegan restaurant and it's really good. And that's where we went. We went like every day and we got kimchi fried rice, or you can get like a big kimchi hot pot or you can get you can get anything. And it's all, it's all just, um, just check, just check that they, they don't do me.
00:23:32
Speaker
but Charlie's into this really dry humor currently. But it's like an old vegan recipe. Yeah, it's it's called vegan restaurant. Just write that down. Got it. fantastic Just in case I forget, you know. It's in Myeongdong. That's the name. Anyway, I think that's definitely an important point in terms of like taking something with you and some of the emergency food and especially when you have specific like dietary requirements or what you like to eat.
00:24:04
Speaker
um and I think most most of us would do that in at least some form and take something with them so that's yeah it's cool to hear um that you're prepared and ready and and I think careers I guess if you've never been before um at least we've had Mikey to give us a few tips but I've had the same thing like I've been looking at career and trying to figure out the accommodation has done my head in a little bit and and and I'm a bit unsure of what the food's going to be like but yeah I think that also makes it exciting that it's nice to have some some backup plans ready to go. actually have so many Absolutely yeah and I think I think it was really funny i it must have been in Austria um you know you always think you can buy a peanut butter somewhere but at the like there was the I don't know the equivalent of like the IGA or Woolies sort of next to the hotel accommodation and
00:24:54
Speaker
all of the athletes clearly wanted peanut butter because it was sold out. for like yeah whole but i like and like I think I went to all of them in the vicinity and they were all sold out. So I'm like, I'm gonna take peanut butter with me. I actually have a jar of peanut butter in my bag at the moment that I've been carrying around Europe with me. Always stay strapped.
00:25:14
Speaker
boy i stra Seoul is one of the best places to get Norwegian style coffee. So if if you're interested in that, ludar I'll send you some places. Norwegian style coffee. Yeah. so is that um raising all It's like, it's like you do it twice and you do it at a low intensity. Yeah. So you do one in the morning, one in the afternoon.
00:25:40
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yeah
00:25:43
Speaker
Sorry. nation nations right I'd like some more details about that, Charlie. You can send them my way as well. Yeah, I will. I will. Fantastic. All right. Well, on that note, um let's let's go to Charlie. Charlie, what's um yeah I know your plans, you you and Mikey are leaving next week, and then you're going to be around Seoul for a little bit and head down to the race, maybe just a few days before the race. What's your plans around the training once you get there and um settling into Korea?
00:26:16
Speaker
Um, yeah, so we get in a week before I race and then we stay in Seoul for five nights. We don't actually get to the race village until the Wednesday and I race on the Friday, which Thinking about now, I don't actually like that much, but that's okay. It's the decisions we've made. um i The week before the race, I usually just like, ah I try not to think about the, run I just do the running as I feel. Like, for example, Tarawera last year, I got to New Zealand and I didn't run for three days before the race. Just because I was super stressed, I was super anxious and I just like,
00:26:58
Speaker
didn't feel like I needed to or it was too stressful to for some reason. Um, and that was, ah that was okay. Like that's just the decision I made at the time. And then whereas sometimes like before UTA, but I think I did a bit of running the week off just cause that's what felt good. Um, so I think, like, I think I've been doing this long enough now that I know what feels good and I just will do that. Um, I would like to get a decent, like a, you know, maybe like 16 or 18 K or something when we get into Seoul maybe to check out some of that, but 18k in that national park could take you four hours if you want it. Yeah, so and and maybe we do want it. um
00:27:38
Speaker
but no like just Just take it easy, and i think yeah I think you can get too stuck on the plan in that last week, but it's just whatever makes you feel good. um In terms of the food, yeah, I always bring stuff. like I'm bringing my breakfast. We're there 10 or 11 days. I'm going to bring 10 or 11 days worth of breakfast, and maybe even like some pasta, um if we just need to boil pasta for the race day. um What's a little bit upsetting is like going to Seoul for a week.
00:28:09
Speaker
um And I will eat some stuff, definitely, but I'll probably be try to be pretty safe and boring with my eating just to make sure the stomach doesn't get all weird and upset. um I've got, I've got three days after the race before we leave. So I'll eat some weird stuff then, but still that we I'm going to find some weird stuff. ah pretty sure Yeah. I'll find some fun stuff. But, um, just keep it very simple. Really. Um, trying to keep things as much as normal. Um, and yeah, not stressed out about it too much. It's just a running race kind of. So should be sweet. Yeah.
00:28:52
Speaker
Yeah, what do you take for breakfast with you if you're taking 10 days worth of breakfast? Oh, I'll do like, I'll just bring like sachets of oats, oats, protein powder, chia seeds that I can just fill with water or oat milk um and like overnight oats kind of style thing the night before. That'll probably be the like easiest way to do that, I think. That's a lie. He just, he he ties them around his face like a feed bag, like a horse and he just eats them dry.
00:29:20
Speaker
in going to do that. But you're going to prepackage and pre-prepare that. That's very well thought out. Unless you're going to put the protein powder in separate sachets and whatnot. No, I'll put the protein powder in with the oats. Because you have a protein powder. Yeah, but you're going to prepare each little pouch. I was just saying, it's impressive food prep. Yeah. Because I could bring a bag of oats, and you could bring protein powder. But it's just easier to make it beforehand, I think.
00:29:49
Speaker
but Yeah, that's a good point. Nice, nice. In terms of your accommodation, like where you're staying, was this, is there anything that you look for when you booked your accommodation in Seoul to make it more smooth when you got there and, and whatnot, or is it what happened? Mike doesn't like to cuddle with me anymore. no When we we're, when we're in France, we, we stay in, in beds.
00:30:19
Speaker
ah feet were i don't know and yeah Our feet were tight and ah feet wove foot to foot and it would just piss me off a lot whenever I could feel Charlie's feet in the night for some reason. So I moved down to the lounge for the last month of that training pretty much. um yeah So we look for a room with separate bedrooms. yeah um We're also, and poland we're staying in the National Park in Seoul, I think, so we can do some nice running. yeah We might be far away from everything else in Seoul, but it looks a bit, but everywhere's close in Seoul. Like, nowhere's further than like, it's just like two hours. It's literally 40 minutes is the furthest away to the outskirts of Seoul on the train. Like, nowhere's that far away. So it's good.
00:31:00
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And what about like kitchen facilities? Is that something you look for that had a kitchen given you you want to, if you want to cook your own food or are you going to eat out? Yeah. This place has got a full kitchen. yeah we've got We will eat out. We will like go to, I'm going to go to vegan restaurant. Yeah. I'm tempted by vegan restaurant. Um, I can meet Ludo at vegan restaurant. Oh, Ludo won't be there. We could get the four person share mega I feel like that sounds like a two-person challenge. Or we could get one HNC. The cool thing about that restaurant as well is that it has serving robots that come up to you and they wow they bring you water and then they ask for your order and you like click their chest and you give your order. Wow! Yeah, it's pretty it's pretty legit. Lou, don't be used to that. That's just broom, isn't it? Don't you just have that up there?
00:31:48
Speaker
I don't even think we had, I had to, I had to get people to bring food when they came to Broome because they didn't have it at the coleslaw. He's there. So no, I'd make everyone plant-based Milo when they came and visited. I think this has become a, um, sponsored post for vegan restaurant in. Yeah. Yeah. Travel South Korea. and something not like me
00:32:14
Speaker
or as you get them on board for the next episode. um Is there anything Charlie that you're gonna take with you apart from like the breakfast food, like anything else that you take on every trip or you're specifically gonna take on this trip that sort of helps just day-to-day life um be more normal when you're away from home?
00:32:33
Speaker
um I mean, I always bring my like just the classic things like my foam roller, all my little supplements. So I'll have all my magnesium in my,
00:32:44
Speaker
vitamin C and my probiotic. Um, just, just standard stuff. I like, like I'm very routine based and you know, like I wake up and I do the same things in the morning and I like do the same things before bed. So I think when you're traveling for a race, just try and keep a lot of those same things as normal as possible. That definitely helps. Cause like, it's easy to get somewhere and be like, Oh, I'm going to go crazy and do some weird stuff, but just keep things as normal as possible. And usually it's fine. Yeah.
00:33:13
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, nice. And um I know you've been known to sort of take a coffee machine to various locations. Are you gonna take a smaller version or what's the what's the coffee plan? Well, I've been looking at whether I could get a suitcase for my espresso machine in Grindr. But that seems harder to do than you would expect. um So i always I've got like a little filter travel kit that I'll travel with, I'll bring some nice coffee. And like I said, some of the best Norwegian style coffee in the world is in Seoul. So I'll buy some so nice beans that are roasted in Copenhagen and have found their way to Seoul, which I'm pretty excited about. Yeah, nice. Cool. Awesome. um Anything else you want to add about your travel plans? Otherwise we'll hit Mikey with a few questions.
00:34:11
Speaker
Um, no, no, no, I've got a lot of lectures to do on the plan, which is going to be a treat. Yeah, that's always fun. Good way to kill time. Um, Mikey, you obviously you're traveling with Charlie. So we've got a bit of an idea of what you're, what you're already doing, but is there anything additional to what he was saying that you factored into your plan? Like anything specifically you'll be taking with you or, or how's that going to work out?
00:34:38
Speaker
I'm going to not take a drowsy antihistamine on the plane last time, which was a bad idea because we nearly didn't get through Singapore airport. um and I don't think anything else. like i'm goingnna try and um I feel like this year I've been more relaxed about racing, which has been a lot better for me and I've raced a lot better. so i think i'm gonna i like I had a great holiday in Seoul while I was there and I was eating whatever and I was having a good time and I also was running in really good form when I was there doing that. So I think I'm just going to try and you know not not stress too much about you know eating the right things or being super relaxed. I'm going to go out and see the things I want to see and eat the things I want to do. and
00:35:20
Speaker
be happy to do that and then I've been there before so so I'm comfortable that I'll that'll be i'll be good to race. I feel like you you get some cumulative why mental benefit by being slightly more relaxed about races in that way than then you do perhaps if you try and over control insight sometimes. like Obviously you have to control some of it to make sure that you that you're going to get to the race and feel okay. but I feel like there's a cumulative benefit for just being a little bit more relaxed about the race in general um with your mindset and like how you feel.
00:35:53
Speaker
so That's the plan. Also, at 7-Elevens in Korea, you can get sweet potatoes that are roasted on little stones. So I'm going to eat lots of those when I'm traveling. And you can also get, they have little ramen. Yeah, which is great. And they have little ramen bowl, like do-it-yourself areas where you can make it you make your own little ramen bowls. That sounds exciting. I'm very excited for that. just So that's good. So that's, that's you know, eating water. That's fine. That's carp load. Just hot potatoes. Yeah.
00:36:24
Speaker
Yeah, yeah and I think that's a pretty good cardboard. What's the training wise, is there anything specific that you'll do once you get there, anything you want to tick off or again, keeping it pretty relaxed and just doing what what feels comfortable?
00:36:37
Speaker
Yeah, I think just like in terms of the running, just doing what I would normally do, like just we'll do a a normal like, you know, seven days out, seven days out, 18 K 16 18 K and then do a little sharpener session the next week and then just do check outs and strides and stuff before I say pretty much, but just as feel like, you know,
00:36:59
Speaker
obviously if you're feeling trashed definitely you know you just take extra rest days and take more rest and if you're feeling good then you can enjoy running a little bit more yeah cool cool and do you know much about logistics of ah all three of you do you know much of logistics when you arrive at the actual like competition like in terms of like the but I think there's a hotel that you're all staying at or like, have you got much information about that stuff yet? I've been sent three texts by one of the organizers that I haven't replied to. so you should reply I should probably reply to that.
00:37:31
Speaker
We're getting the transfer from the train station, I think, but... Yeah, okay. And I think it's always interesting, like, if anything's I've learned at these events, like, all of this organizing goes in, and then, like, on the day, it's just, anything goes. Like, it's still chaos. It's all chaos. As if there was no organizing, so I think we've just got to be calm and keep in mind, and, you know,
00:37:58
Speaker
hope that they'll be able to figure out if there's a bed for you if they forget you. True story. yeah Is there a team manager of sorts like for the Australian team or is one of you guys the team manager? like what's the i don't know scar we we I don't know if there's anybody going with us but there's people organizing online. but i Yeah. Do you Do you want on ground? I don't know if Simone's going. I don't know. i don't know it ah someone um Either way, I think we would nominate Ludo to be team to be team.
00:38:34
Speaker
We'll elect Ludo on behalf of Peepershoots and all of Australia. She is now team manager. um and look lu we should We should print, vote for Ludo shirts. That'd be fun. Absolutely, we just a little And just be ready for the lack of attention to detail, so you know. I hope he's not lying all right.
00:38:59
Speaker
ah
00:39:01
Speaker
Nice. like We've got Kelly. Kelly is team captain and there's is there someone else too? but there's a just flat so killinglaing Flattened. She knows stuff. yeah yeah Two very experienced heads to have um in in those positions, so that's great. and they'll be yeah You guys will probably be able to learn some stuff and they'll be able to keep everyone.
00:39:25
Speaker
on course. So that's exciting. Thank you guys. Got anything else to add for traveling or should we leave it there for today? no We can leave it there. We can leave it there. seam fantastic Their passport. Just make sure you pack your passport. I nearly, I thought I lost my passport yesterday. It was really stressful. I actually found it in one of my storage boxes downstairs.
00:39:49
Speaker
you have a Yeah. No, both next to each other. And then we're just in a random Woolies bag. really bad. It gives me goosebumps. That's scary. Oh boy. I've been in a similar situation before like being like, shit, where is it? And then you're just like, oh, it's a horrible feeling when you've got everything planned out and you're ready to go and you don't have your passport. Nice. All right. Well, thank you all for joining again. We'll touch base with you sometime next week or the week after, one more time before the race and just go over some final feelings if we've learned anything more about the course and that sort of stuff. So thanks so much for jumping on and and giving us your insights again um and we'll see you in the next episode. See you later.
00:40:36
Speaker
thank you