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Episode 32: GPT Preview and Tips for Building Up Your Mileage
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Welcome to Episode 32 of Peak Pursuits, your ultimate podcast for everything trail running in Australia. This week’s episode is hosted by Sim Brick and Brodie Nankervis ahead of both of them tackling the GPT50k this week. Sim and Brodie take you through a GPT preview, answer a listener's question about building up training from a low mileage base, and run through some awesome results for the week!
Start - 33:30 :- Sim and Brodie’s final GPT build
Brodie takes us through his first full week back in Aus and how he is feeling leading into his second 50k race of the year before Sim runs us through her week off the back of Triple Tops including a discussion on running to data or running to feel in training and racing.
33:30 - 47:15 :- GPT race preview
Sim and Brodie then chat through the fields for the GPT race weekend including the Miler, stage race and 50k.
47:15 - 55:20 :- Listener Question
The team answers the question ‘I'm doing KMR 25km in March, Any tips for building up from a low base?'
55:20 - 1:09:30 - :- Race Results
We then cover a few Aussie and International races that went down over the weekend:
GSER: https://my.raceresult.com/317572/results
TRSA Twilight series race 1: https://results.raceroster.com/v2/en-AU/results/xrz55vsp34sjswdq/results?subEvent=215834&page=1
Stromlo Running Festival: https://my.raceresult.com/313267/
Point to Pinnacle: https://www.multisportaustralia.com.au/races/point-to-pinnacle-2024
Skyrunning World Series Final: https://www.instagram.com/p/DCb6pqhMYSc/?img_index=2
Overall: https://www.instagram.com/p/DCcgA3bM68K/?img_index=1
1:09:30 - End : What’s coming up
Hear the races that are coming up next weekend before we wrap up the episode!
Thanks for tuning in to Peak Pursuits! Connect with us on Instagram @peakpursuits.pod to share your thoughts, questions, and your own trail stories. Until next time, keep hitting the trails and chasing those peak pursuits!
Sim: @theflyingbrick_
Brodie: @brodienank
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Transcript
Introduction and Setup
00:00:08
Speaker
Hello and welcome to Episode 32 of the Peak Pursuits Podcast. My name is Simone Brick, coming to you from home in Melbourne and I am joined by the one and only Brody Nancurvus in the same city Brody.
00:00:22
Speaker
Yeah, I'm finally home and I'm very happy about it. I'm actually so much more excited to do the podcast now that I'm at home. um I was actually looking forward to it today, whereas while I was away, I was like always dreading it because the Internet was bad or something.
Episode Preview
00:00:36
Speaker
So, yeah, it's it's very nice to be home to do the podcast. You did seem to find all of the worst places possible Internet-wise.
00:00:43
Speaker
No, I just think you somehow found all the best places. Like I think it was just a normal level of internet. But yeah, podcasting is not easy when you're away from home. So I'm pretty excited to be home. No, it is not. So yeah, this is definitely a relief. And I think we'll we all'll be home from the Grampians by the time we get to podcast recording next week too. um bus But for this week's episode, you've just got me and Brody today and it's going to be, we're going to give you a rundown of how we're both feeling leading into our races this Thursday at GPT 50K.
Brody's Training and Race Strategy
00:01:16
Speaker
We'll give you a full preview of the event and who we know is running so far. ah And aside from that, we've got a listener question coming at you. We've got results for some from some pretty big races and just otherwise whatever tangent the two of us end up on. um But to get us started, Brody, week at home, finally. How's it been?
00:01:37
Speaker
Yeah, it's been good. It's been um pretty busy um since getting home, just sort of um settling back in. I've been get it sort of throwing myself back into some work because I haven't worked very much for a few months. um So, yeah, I've definitely been a bit tired from that, but I got a fairly good training week in.
00:01:56
Speaker
um Obviously, GPT is coming up this Thursday and it's important for me and I've been sort of building towards this race, but the main goal for the last sort of two, three months is try and set the Achilles on a right path. So, I wouldn't say it's been the perfect or or the all of the focus has been on the 50K, it's more of been about getting the body right. So, this week was actually probably not the not not a taper because I'm still not back at full mileage. So it was actually my biggest week for about three weeks or three or four weeks. So um yeah, it was nice to get back into the rhythm of things. um Get back to the Dan Nongs, did a couple of runs out there, which was cool. um And I did a couple of sort of mini sessions to put a little bit of stress back through the Achilles and start to introduce it back to doing some more sort of running sessions.
00:02:49
Speaker
um and tolerated one of them really well. So on Tuesday I did, um I just joined Kate who was sort of going to the track to do some 400s and just did like some 200s, like the first 200 of her 400 as like some extended strides essentially. And that felt really good. My Achilles actually was really enjoying that, which is interesting because sometimes the faster running it it doesn't enjoy, um yeah but it was actually responded really well to that.
00:03:18
Speaker
Um, so that was, that was a positive. Um, and then I did a second session on Friday where I tried to do some threshold. And for some reason, um, my left Achilles was just not happy. It just didn't want to warm up and it just didn't want to do threshold. So I sort of kept going. I'd plan to do five by five minutes at threshold. Um,
00:03:42
Speaker
And as a sort of, again, an introduction, usually I would do about 30 minutes of work for Threshold, so it was a bit of a reduced session. um But it just wasn't great from the get-go. And I was trying to give it time to warm up, because sometimes it does, and it wasn't excessively bad. um And I thought it was improving in the third rep, um and then I did the fourth rep, and it still had sort of gone back to what it was like in the first and second. So I just called it a day at four reps.
00:04:09
Speaker
but Yeah, it's actually like positively i I felt really good. Like I was running what I would run for threshold in that sort of area pace wise. Earlier in the year um and breathing felt like I wasn't even working, um but legs were very confused at what 327 pace was. um And the Achilles was a bit of a, give me a bit of grief. So it was an interesting session that I felt really good aerobically or at least like breathing and heart rate wise. But, um,
00:04:38
Speaker
but my legs were were a bit ah unsure of what was happening and my Achilles wasn't so good. So yeah, has it it's a pros and cons, but I pulled up all right from that, um despite it not being good during the session. So overall, I'm pretty happy. I managed to do... I did a very short run this morning, um, from the Solomon new store at Chadstone, which is very cool. Um, so today was mostly like a rest day, but as I did that 4k, but before today I'd done 90 K and six days. So it was a.
00:05:10
Speaker
pretty good um and now I'll just do a little taper off before the 50K and I won't have a huge rest after the 50K and I'll start and try and get back into things relatively quickly. Like I still recover from the race but I'll get back into things fairly quickly because I haven't, I'm still sort of building up. It's not like I've been peaking for this race. um So yeah, that's about where I'm at at the moment.
00:05:36
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like you said not that long ago that you just need that maintenance phase though, rather than a build up in many ways of like. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And that's what it was. And I thought long and hard about whether I should be running this 50K and how it fits into the overall picture. And for me, like I would, like at the moment, my thoughts are I'm i i'm headed towards aiming for short trail world champs next year.
00:06:00
Speaker
Um, and I'd like to get, I'll do a race sometime in the first half of the year. That's that distance, but I sort of wanted to get another one in the books, just as a, a good race to feel the distance. I obviously ran trophy keema in the middle of the year. That was a very different race, a very hard 50 K and I also didn't do it that well. So I'd like to just get a conservative one on the board. I won't be going out to.
00:06:24
Speaker
go crazy hard on Thursday. ah The plan is just to get a 50K on the board, solid time, but nothing too crazy and and then build towards a sort of a more competitive ah or a sort of a more prepared race sometime around March, April next year. Yeah, that makes sense. I like that approach. Good call. Very good. So how's the after this week of training, how's the confidence levels for Thursday?
00:06:54
Speaker
Like I'm feeling pretty good, like I've done, I've done what, ah two, three out of 20 runs in the last sort of six weeks. um And apart from my legs, actually the first one, my legs were not, were the limiting factor for sure, aerobically and nutrition wise, energy, all that, I felt good.
00:07:18
Speaker
um And then in the career race, I sort of felt like I could could keep racing. I was, throughout the race, I felt like I was going as hard as I could at that point. But when I got to the finish line, I felt like I could probably keep going a bit longer. So it was sort of like, no I'd pushed myself as hard as I could throughout the race, but it wasn't my limit. So I think I can stretch it for another hour, hour and a half. I think it'll it'll definitely be harder and I'll need to go out a bit easier.
00:07:45
Speaker
Um, but my plan is to probably run the first half, like it's more like a long run and then second half. it'll probably also be the pace of a long run, but it'll be feel harder than a long run. yeah But that's that's that's what I'm aiming to go off by feel, is because it's so hard to know how to pace this race. I haven't done the full course. um it's it's The technical terrain sort of dictates the pace to some extent, so I think you have to go off feel. um So I want the first sort of two, two and a half hours to feel
00:08:19
Speaker
Just like I'm out with a long run with, with the group and I could chat away and it's not too taxing. And then the second half will start to get a bit harder. Whereas as in Korea, I felt like I was racing the whole time for three hours. And I don't think I'll be able to do that for four and a half, five hours. So that's why, and if I have lots of juice at the end, yeah, great. I'll push.
00:08:39
Speaker
really hard for the last two hours. um But I have a feeling that I'll just continue at the same pace. Yeah, if you're feeling that the push will just be the maintaining pace.
00:08:50
Speaker
Yes, while feeling like you're pushing. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Well, it'll be good. We'll see how it all pans out. and But I'm feeling I'm feeling
Simone's Training and Recovery Journey
00:08:58
Speaker
confident. I definitely confident I can complete the distance. um I think if I'd had a different last six months, I could run faster time, but I'm not so worried about the time. I'm just worried about having a successful race in terms of pacing, nutrition, making the distance, those sorts of things. If I tick those boxes, I'll be very happy.
00:09:19
Speaker
Yeah, very, very fair. I like it. Awesome. How about you? How's the last week been? Any more crazy training? Actually, probably so so on the less crazy side this week, I'd say. um That's for sure. Just trying to, trying to tick the boxes. So um I know Monday, I just, it was the day after um triple tops, but I did an easy hour and my legs felt totally fine. Like that hour was at 4.35s, feeling brilliant. Like, like I hadn't really raced, which was good because I'm like, sweet. Hit the ground running with training.
00:09:54
Speaker
My arms though. Oh my goodness. yeah I saw that. So what saw what do you mean? Where were the, where was the dogs? Like you was scratched up i holding my arms in just a bent position. It was because you're trying to dodge the plants or like.
00:10:10
Speaker
I think from dodging the plants, but also from the number of times I was pulling myself up on trees or lowering myself down with branches or just swinging around branches. like There was a lot of arm use in triple tops for me. yeah And I have ah have had many people say that they were the same.
00:10:25
Speaker
um It felt like a run with a whole bunch of monkey bars in the middle. um But it surprised me. it was I was actually like having to run at times with my arms straightened out to try and release my biceps. So that was a fun experience. um And yeah, I was still pretty itchy, actually, because of all the scratches on me. So that was also not fun. But that's all good. If that was all I had to deal with, happy days.
00:10:49
Speaker
um I saw you rolling fairly fast pace for an easy hour, 4.35 spot shoes were you rolling. Oh, Spectres, I think. Yeah, I was going to say, I felt like it was a Spectre run because those shoes feel very comfortable cruising at 430s. And it feels like they do in another shoe. I think you'd feel like you're running like it feels like you're running five minute or five 30s in a different shoe just because I don't know something about that shoe. Like I guess it was designed for that sort of three hour marathon. So it feels it feels very comfortable running it for four to four 30s. You sort of just run along.
00:11:26
Speaker
Yeah, it definitely does. um And yeah, I was not looking at pace at all. I was actually just running laps of Dendi Park, which is 2K laps. um And I did the whole you're not allowed to look at your watch until an hour's passed sort of thing, um because I knew that I didn't I wanted to still be recovering from the it wasn't like from triple tops, just from the pounding and the descent and stuff to let my body decide the pace. So that was like just good signs that the recovery was there.
00:11:55
Speaker
um And then the next morning, early morning, um I got into the run club in Richmond in one of their heat sessions. So they have like, it's almost like a spin class, but with treadmills. So there's maybe 12 to 15 treadmills in a room that's all dark with like, they put different color lights and stuff, loud music, there's someone with a microphone running the class kind of thing. But for three sessions a week they do it, isnt and they heat the room so they put the heater on full blast and have a whole bunch of humidifiers in the room. So it's really humid and hot and by the time you've also got a bunch of people running in there.
00:12:30
Speaker
By the end, damn, it is hot. And I was sweating up a storm and it felt humid, not just like dry heat, which was perfect for me. um But because I i haven't and didn't have any sessions in the plan this week, I gave myself the freedom to kind of join in on the efforts that they were doing because it makes the time pass.
00:12:51
Speaker
So much faster if you kind of just join in on what the person is saying in the class. um So I didn't do anything too hard, but I did all the efforts that they were saying at about 4-minute case. So I think out of the 45 minutes I was in there, maybe 4Ks, 5Ks of it was at about 4-minute pace.
00:13:08
Speaker
um in the heat and then the rest was just for either 4.30 to 5 minute pace. I had the treadmill on for all the easy parts. um And yeah, like it felt good for the fact that I got some heat training in um and it wasn't too long. You're telling me about this on um on Wednesday. I cannot believe that there's normal punters just going to the gym and doing these heat sessions. it I still can't believe it. It's crazy like no not even like We, so you're doing it for a reason and, and runners would, I think most runners who are training for a hot race would be like, I should be doing it, but I don't really want to do it. Um, and you've got people who are choosing to go there to do it crazy. Yeah.
00:13:52
Speaker
year round. And like, to be fair, there's there's this satisfaction to sweating as much as you do in these sessions. i guess And 45 minutes when you're with a bunch of other people with good music with someone yelling at you, like, it's not the same as just jumping in a heat chamber and doing 45 minutes by yourself for sure. yeah So there's an extra layer of satisfaction to it. And yeah, like I to be there definitely have all the respect in the world for the other people in that room that I'm like,
00:14:20
Speaker
I know why I'm here and it keeps me going. So but no idea what keeps them going in that heat, but they're doing it. So, and they're making it easier for me because it makes you feel less weird to be doing that sort of thing. It's good to know that if anyone ever needs to do ah heat sessions, you've got something a good way for some motivation. um Yeah, for sure. um Yeah. And then double that day. My double that day was meant to be an hour. I kept it to 30 minutes. I can't even remember why. I think I was literally just tired. So.
00:14:55
Speaker
and I've been taking the option of kind of less is more this week, um but still trying to tick the boxes. but walk that line of not overdoing it. um Oh, that's right. Because I had blood tests. um After everything that I felt at triple tops, I had blood tests on the Monday. um I didn't have my results yet on the Tuesday, but I was still fairly sure my iron was low. And so when I got to 30 minutes, I was like, look, that'll do. um I want to know what these bloods come back as first before I keep pushing the limit on mileage and those sorts of things.
00:15:31
Speaker
Um, so yeah, then Wednesday ran with you. I was meant to do four hours, um, ended up doing two hours, 50 close enough to three hours. Um, because I did, I got there late, only had 40 minutes before you guys joined. And then by the time I stopped with you again, I was like, see what these blood tests say. And I got the results at the finish of that. And yes, lo and behold, my iron was low. Um,
00:15:59
Speaker
So, yeah, that explained a lot for me, which it's nice to know that I know my body well enough to sort of just pick up on it, then go get the blood test and confirm it. um But yeah, I did supplement the fact that I hadn't done the full four hours of that run. I then did go out for a bike ride that evening. um I was going to do elliptical, but then coach,
00:16:19
Speaker
Tim Crosby, who people
Training Philosophy: Feel vs. Metrics
00:16:21
Speaker
may have remember from the episode we did with him, um he offered to come for a bike ride with me. So that was a lovely evening bike ride, actually. um And my legs felt better. I hadn't been on the bike in months and months, and my legs felt better after being on the bike. So I need to do more of that again. um I forget how good it can be. And yeah, then I was kind of in a mad dash to try and get an iron infusion um to top up my iron before he's 100K because I do not want to do a 50K race into a 100K race with low iron. But um the next morning I just jogged easy ah with Kate around Studley Park, 10K, and then
00:17:02
Speaker
I don't even think I doubled that day. I think that was it for the day. But I got, that was Thursday, I got an iron infusion that afternoon, um which is actually why I didn't double because Sometimes I feel a bit tired and iffy after the iron injections. So I kind of was meant to do another heat session that evening. Um, but I had that much going on this weekend and it was just a case of life got too much. Um, and I was tired. So yeah, again, miss that one, but felt like the smart move. That's for sure. Because I knew the next morning I got up at
00:17:40
Speaker
5.30 a.m. to start a 6 a.m. run to try and get 40, what was it? I got 43 and a half Ks done in the end um on Friday morning around, this one was a flat run around like Studley Park trails, bit on Yarra flats and stuff. And this one I was very much trying to do at what I felt was sort of, I don't know, I don't know what 100K effort is, but at a pace or an effort, I felt I could literally just keep going and going and going. Like it felt like it had no endpoint um sort of thing. So get through that. It's a long distance obviously, but I wanted to get through it as easily as possible knowing that I'm doing this what, six days before GPT. um And so did that, felt good.
00:18:26
Speaker
actually felt fine, got through and. What's your, on that, like, that was a really good run, like, and obviously hopefully a big confidence booster. What's the, for you, do you do use a heart rate monitor or have you just got the wrist heart rate?
00:18:43
Speaker
I've got the wrist heart rate, which doesn't seem that inaccurate for the fact that I've always got the same watch on. So what did it say? I think at low intensities they're usually pretty good. Sometimes the wrist heart rates when you start moving, like you run faster, they move around a bit and they they jump all over the place. But I think sometimes at low intensities they can be, or sort of slower running. My average for that one was only 127 beats, which feels accurate.
00:19:13
Speaker
What's your average on sort of like an easy run? um Easy runs, if it's just a short, easy hour or something, I'll normally hold anywhere from 130 to 140. But I'll normally be running quick, like this was at 510 pace on the flat. Well, other than the, to be fair, the last few Ks on the trail made that average pace look a bit slower because I think there were six minutes something Ks to 50.
00:19:37
Speaker
um but um But yeah, they normally I'm running them a little bit faster. And so I know like at the moment, my if if I'm hitting sort of 430s, my heart rate's normally high 130s into 140. But if I'm running five minute case like this, yeah, it'll be 120 something um usually. And that's pretty normal for me. And I've done a lot, a lot of running at this effort where I'm in the 125 or so. um The last time I was doing big blocks of training, I tried to make all my long runs pretty much at that effort um and that heart rate. And when you were doing it then, were you looking at your heart rate? Not at all, but and I know my effort level. So you go off field more than heart rate.
00:20:19
Speaker
100%. Yeah, I don't actually look at my heart rate at all. um But like, I get to the end of runs, look at what my heart rate was. And I go, that checks out. Like, that's how it felt. um And I think, yeah, I think because I've always, from the very get go, I've trained to feel, I've never trained to a pace and I've never trained to a heart rate. I've trained to trust my own sense of how I'm feeling and how long I can hold that for and those sorts of things. So I've actually gotten pretty good at going. It's interesting because I'm like the opposite. I'm like, yeah, it's good to go feel, but also like I like the data to sort of guide that a little bit. So, yeah, it's interesting to hear that the different ways of sort of. Like I like the data afterwards, but I've actually gotten pretty good at going. I'll do an effort and I'll be like, yeah, I reckon that'll be 165 and it'll be there or thereabouts.
00:21:07
Speaker
um And then, and especially because I've done, I haven't used a tre chest strap a lot in the past. So, yeah yeah yeah and then cross training and stuff, I'll use heart rates. Every now and again on the treadmill, I'll use heart rate. But even when I'm using heart rate, I very rarely look at it. I'll look at it once and go, okay, I'm at where I'm at and just sit there at the same effort as opposed to looking at heart rate constantly. I don't know. yeah I just feel better doing it that way.
00:21:32
Speaker
Let me pitch something to you though. Um, let's talk Thailand. So Thailand first hundred K race. Yes. Yeah. Like I've done 85 and I think this one's technically 93. So it's not too different, but two but it's a lot more game.
00:21:49
Speaker
ah lock that in And you also add in the heat and the temperature. Do you think it would be, and I don't obviously don't want to mess with what, well, like you can decide what you're going to do. But like for me, if I was approaching a new race, a new distance, lots of unknowns, like there's a lot of unknowns with the Thailand race. I feel like given how accurate your heart rate data appears to be and how correlated it is with your feel,
00:22:15
Speaker
potentially it's worth keeping an eye on it for the first, say, 40K of the Thailand race to make sure that you're keeping things under wraps. Because I know you know for me in a race situation, I just get so excited. Like you can get excited and I feel like the adrenaline and those sorts of things can can mess with you what you feel. But yeah, that's just just a thought. That is true. um But I actually hate paying any attention to heart rate in races because of everything you've just
Simone's Race Experience and Adjustments
00:22:45
Speaker
listed.
00:22:45
Speaker
adrenaline on the start line will be affecting it. um The fact I'm in a race will be affecting it. And then there's also cardiac drift throughout a race where your heart rate will go up at the same effort, but that's actually fine. um You can hold a higher heart rate at the end because that of the cardiac drift that many people don't account for. And I think um I would rather my own sense of my effort be my limiter and not my heart rate be my limiter. um yeah But I think the two are so finely correlated now that I would probably achieve the same result with either, but feel better going off feel. Okay.
00:23:26
Speaker
Yeah. Because I second guess myself a lot less than I do going off heart going off field than I do going off heart rate, which probably doesn't make much sense because I'm going off the subjective, not the objective item there. um Yeah, but like you said, those things can mess with the objective, so sometimes the subjective is better. so Exactly. So I like to personally use a mix. but um I think it's very person specific and dependent on like the situation. Like for me, if there's a climb involved, then I'll, I will probably key into heart rate a little bit, but not, not over obsess over it. Um, but I think, yeah, it's very, it's very dependent on how you go. And it's, yeah, it's interesting. Um, it sounds like you're, you're so tuned in with your feel that like you don't need that extra data.
00:24:15
Speaker
Yeah, and so for the 85k race I did do, which was Old Ghost, um I went entirely. I did not pay a single bit of attention to my heart rate that entire run. It was all off effort. And to be honest, what got to me and changed my effort was mentally finding it, the dauntingness of I got to the marathon feeling pretty good, actually. And I knew um that I was at a good pace and those sorts of things based on timing splits, but also I mentally psyched myself out going, I've never done this distance now before. Like once I got to 60K, I was like, I haven't done this distance before. Like, am I pushing too hard? And I like kind of psyched myself out mentally. um And I was going pretty slow and had given up on all my time goals of sub 8 hours and all sorts of things. And then 3Ks to go realising that sub 8 hours was on if I picked up a bit, I started running faster.
00:25:10
Speaker
by quite a bit. I think I went from five minute case to four thirties for the last three case and felt better all of a sudden. And I was like, okay, you psyched yourself out there and you could have been going faster for probably a little bit of time because I had a sprint finish in me for multiple kilometers.
00:25:27
Speaker
Um, that mentally I thought wasn't there, but physically was, which is why, like, I think I just didn't trust myself at that point, which, and having that knowledge now, it's a bit of a, it's, it's cool to know that, okay, you can trust yourself. Cause I didn't ever feel like I was pushing too hard, but I second guessed if I was pushing too hard. yeah yeah yeah So.
00:25:49
Speaker
Yeah, it's cool to know the mentality of these things is always what everyone's trying to figure out, right? But, um, I think my mentality is always better if I'm just going off gut instinct and then off data of any kind. Cool. Um, thanks for, um, letting me go on that little tangent. No, I liked, oh, that was a good tangent. I like it. Um, cause I do the same thing in training anyway. And like, yeah, you don't want to change what you do in training to what you do in racing anyway.
00:26:17
Speaker
Yeah, like my gut feel. I probably use it heart rate a lot in training. So it makes sense for me to use it a little bit in racing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. um But yeah, I got that back to the training. I got that long run done and my break end was a little bit hectic from there because.
00:26:35
Speaker
So I ran, what, 6 a.m. So three hours, 45 minutes. But then in that day, I drove up to Mount Hotham. So that was five hours in the car. And then camped at near the summit of Mount Hotham, because on Saturday we had, i um I was working as medic as First Aider for Great Southern Endurance Run, um which was a lot of fun. Spent the whole day at an aid station helping the 50 Mylas up there, but at the summit of Hotham.
00:27:06
Speaker
and I could have, I had time to go for a run on Saturday morning. But the thing with whenever I do these first aid things, and normally I would have if it hadn't been for the fact I had GPT there, because um anytime I'm doing first aid, if something happens on course, I'm a run medic. So if something happens to someone nearby my aid station,
00:27:29
Speaker
then I could be sent out to run any distance really with an eight kilo pack to go get to the runner first um to then relay information and all those sorts of things. Now, I didn't want, say I had it gone for a run and I was going to be on my feet all day, I didn't want me being needed to go out on course. And that could have been needed to go out on course anytime, like overnight as well. I was on call all night. um And I didn't want that to ruin my race and overdo me for the week. So I kind of opted for not doing the run in case, knowing that Murphy's law was totally going to occur. And if I didn't run, I wasn't going to be needed. And if I did run, I probably was going to be needed to run um that whole thing.
00:28:13
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And in the end, it was the the former. i um i So i I missed the run, but spent the whole day at the aid station. And then, um no thankfully, no one was needed to be extracted or ran into or anything um on the course from near where I was. So I ended up with a rest day, now rest day in commas, because it felt very restful. But at the same time, I'm aware I was at the top of a mountain at an aid station all day, crewing for sort of crewing for people, being medic.
00:28:42
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um and also spent two nights sort of sleeping. And the second night, which is last night actually, Saturday night, there were storms rolling in. um I don't know if people have seen on the news the wind that was at the top of Mount Hotham and stuff. It was hectic. So I didn't actually get to sleep in my tent. I had to sleep indoors in the shelter um because the tent wasn't going to last very well.
00:29:03
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um But yeah, two nights of camping. And then today, um I was meant to make use of the fact that I was at Mount Hotham and do a long downhill, long uphill to get like a run that way around. But yeah, thunderstorms and lightning and wind ah ruled that one out. So it ended up just being an easy 15K around Mount Poropunka that took I think at 800 meters gain took me a couple of hours because I was doing it with a friend.
00:29:31
Speaker
Um, and it felt again, super duper easy. So my legs at this point, even though I covered, I think what, 130 K for the week or so, um, almost 12 hours of running. Um, they feel rested, which I'm very, very happy with because I feel fresh going into the week of GPT. Um, which I didn't expect because yeah, it's not as if I've actually tapered that much. Um, but I feel tapered, which is a cool hack. Yeah.
00:30:00
Speaker
Yeah, that's good. And I know you were having a bit of fatigue last week. it Everything this week a bit better. Like obviously you had the, ah you found out about the iron. So it was probably a contributing factor. Um, yeah. Feeling better now. Uh, not yet. Last week. Not yet. um Iron infusions take a little bit to kick in. And obviously being up in Brite, up in Mount Hotham for the weekend, two nights of camping, lots of driving. um black um That was why today's run, I was meant to do 20K, again, did 15, took it super easy. um So i'm I'm like changing training still a little bit to navigate the fatigue. But because I'm doing that, in some ways, I feel less fatigued. um But I'm also aware, I haven't done any hard sessions this week, because I knew that they would
00:30:45
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cook me. Hard sessions when my irons low feel shocking. Um, yes. So yeah, like I'm actually very thankful. The body's a little fatigued, but the legs feel really good. Yep. Yep. So it's more just, I'm sleepy still. And I know that my top end isn't quite there. That's the main thing I noticed with the low iron, like You go to push and there's just feels like there's nothing. Um, so I'm hoping like GPT will be one week after the infusion. So I'll hopefully have a bit of the effect, but then it's only the two weeks after or so that you feel back to normal. Um, or that's what it normally is for me. So I'm thankful that GPT is technical and that might be, is more of going to be the limiter than the cardiovascular side of things. Um, yeah but, um, but yeah, that's all good. Feeling good going in at least.
00:31:33
Speaker
Yeah, nice. Cool. So I didn't ask you how much about, it like, obviously we talked a little bit, but like any other thoughts on your own race in terms of GPT, I talked a little bit about how I'm feeling. Like what's, where you are you at with your headspace and whatnot? Yeah, I think my headspace is in some ways actually similar to yours, but for different reasons. Um, yeah like I want to, I want a good strong run. I want it to feel good and I want to perform well with the knowledge that it is a last hard effort before the hundred K.
GPT Race Strategy and Considerations
00:32:03
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Um,
00:32:04
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Now that like it with with with got the weather forecast and it is looking like it's going to be pretty damn hot. um So that could definitely affect how I approach things. It's definitely going to be a heavier run with carrying a lot more water.
00:32:22
Speaker
um But my mentality will be that that's actually a really good thing for me for practice for Thailand um and that the whole 50k will be about looking after myself and getting to the finish line in a good time in some ways as easily as possible. um So yeah, I don't know.
00:32:40
Speaker
it's a I think ah I'm going to treat it like it's going to be a fun day out um and not, if at any point I'm not having fun, I'm pushing too hard kind of thing um is my overall mental approach to it. Knowing that I am like, i'm I'm a time person, so I am still going for a time. I would love to be somewhere around the five and a half hour mark. I think that that's perfectly doable. and And on a good day, hopefully if it's not the 34 degrees or what that one of the forecasts is saying it might be. um
00:33:15
Speaker
that should hopefully pan out. But at the same time, I just like having a time to chase when I'm out there because it helps guide the race. um But again, I'll be mostly guided by how I'm feeling. Am I enjoying it? Is this like, I just don't, I can't afford to cook myself for the 100K. Like I only have two and a half weeks between them, so. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Touching on, you talked a little bit, you touched on weather there. um Looking like, from what I'm looking at, just Google uh, Thursday's potentially 30 degrees. Um, but our race starts at 7 AM m and I think, well, at least the heat in Melbourne has been sort of peaking at like 2 or 3 PM rather than sort of midday. Um, so we might get away with having sort of mid to high twenties or mid twenties max, which is not too bad. Um, yeah but it is very exposed, lots of sun.
00:34:12
Speaker
Yeah, I was going to say lots of sun, still feel hot. um Still going to be a case of needing to look after, after it, after yourself. Make sure you're carrying enough water. Like, yeah, I'll be carrying a lot more water than I normally would, partially because there is a big difference, big distance between some of these aid stations um and or a lot of time between the aid stations. And um yeah, i don't I don't want to get dehydrated out there. That's one of my biggest things for this run.
00:34:40
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So I'd rather carry a lot extra if needed and not be dehydrated than get to the end too in a bad state, which I think should hopefully be everyone's approach that's out there um yeah yeah as ah yeah as someone that is then also the big one for the 100 milers as well. I'll be out doing.
00:34:59
Speaker
me um first aid again for the 100 milers. So everyone please carry enough water because the most DNFs I saw on the weekend just gone from GSCR were also people dehydrated with not enough water. So that's... And they're pretty good at GPT and making sure people have got their water. So um be nice to the volleys that are suggesting that you should take water because you probably should have it.
00:35:22
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um But yeah, the weather looks like it might be a bit better for the miles. Last year it was crazy. It was like storms and yeah, it was probably the most ah the most crazy weather you could ask for for a mile. I think maybe a little cloudy, a bit of rain and and warm, but um not crazy storms at this stage, but I've been not jinx it.
00:35:43
Speaker
Yeah, definitely don't jinx that one. ah To get us on to, we've got the start list, or at least the registration list. You never know who signs up last minute. um And we've both had a bit of a look through it. So for a short rundown of who to look out for if you are tracking along, um shall we start with, we'll start with a 50k, since that's where we've been talking about. um And on the women's side, I'm excited. We've got Caitlin Howlett, who she came second last year in a very nifty time. Can't quite remember exactly what it was. But yeah, Caitlin and then Lauren Rook, she is fresh off Asia Pacific. What does she come 10th at Asia Pacific Champs?
00:36:27
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Yeah, it was either 10th or 11th. It was just one place behind Sarah. Yeah, so 10th. So she's fresh off that and that is exciting. She's last minute signed up, which I'm very excited to have Lauren out there. And then also Amelia Horn, who I believe you know a bit about Brody.
00:36:45
Speaker
Yeah, Amelia's a Orienteer from New Zealand who also does some trail running and she actually went to World Champs for trail last year when it was in Innersbrook and ran the short trail there. So she's nice quite a handy runner herself. So it's cool to see her coming over to run the 50.
00:37:04
Speaker
Awesome. On the men's side, there was less names that me and Brody actually recognized, but Kieran Rook, who's Lauren's partner, he's going to be out there with you, Brody, and obviously our very own Brody, but there were no other names that we fully recognized were there on the men's side.
00:37:23
Speaker
Yeah, none of that it jump out at me, but I'm hoping that there's a few that, there there always seems to be at every trail race, that the the popularity of trail running is getting more and more every race that, or more and more every year that you you have people turning up that you've you've never heard of. So yeah, two years ago or 18 months ago, Billy Curtis was turning up to races and people didn't know who he was. So there's definitely probably going to a few people around that are going to be running some some good time. So I'm sure I'll have someone around me.
00:37:52
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Well, we're definitely going to have people around us because starting at the same time as us is actually the stage race. um So which will do the 50K on the first day. And then I'm not entirely sure what the break up is the next couple of days, and but they cover the whole hundred miles over three days, maybe three or four. um yeah And so they'll be starting the same time as us, which on the men's side, you're going to have Matt Crean to go up against.
00:38:20
Speaker
Yeah, I'm quite worried about Matt. I think he like he has capacity. Depends how hard he goes on the first day. He's obviously got four days to get through. so um But given it is the first day, he could run it as hard as he wanted. And if he did run as hard as he wanted it, he could well and truly beat me. So we'll see. I assume I'll be sharing the trial with Matt for at least some of the race. So that'll be fun.
00:38:42
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. And then were there any other men um that we saw in there? I'm trying to, there was someone else. joe nu Joseph Nunn? Yes, Joseph Nunn. And he came 11th in the full miler last year. So he's okay decided to split it up over four days this year. So we'll see. We might ask him if he has a more enjoyable experience, split it up or doing it as one.
00:39:05
Speaker
Yeah, actually, which one's harder? I like that. um On the women's side in the stage race, on the same start line as us, I'm excited. My cousin, Tara Brick, she's going to be out there. She came fourth last year in the 50K, so she's going to be out there for the stage race. ah And then again, the the women are showing up for this one, which is exciting. Tali Bird, ah she's going to be out there. um She's a very fast runner on the road, so she and she So it'll be interesting to see how she goes for the stage race. ah Jasmine Vollmer, I can't off the top of my head remember what Jasmine's done most recently. Do you know Brodie? Not off the top of my head and I just i know the name but ah I can't even bring to my mind exactly what I know it from. What race has she done in the past, do you know? She's done lots. I just know that she's an absolute beast on the trails so I'll quickly look her up.
00:39:57
Speaker
um and give her the credit where credit's due because I know she's ah she's done a lot of very cool things ah recently. why she did ah She was at UTMB this year, but she was 11th at UTA 103rd at Buffalo Stampede Marathon this year. ah so That would be probably where we most recently know her name from. yeah That's a bloody fast run, four and a half hours for that marathon. and Then the there was one more, Karen Blair.
00:40:28
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um Who is another absolute powerhouse in the trails she's out there on the stage race as well so I'm keen to see how the stage race goes. but Do you want to take us gonna be really interesting it's cool to see that state last year I was doing the stage race relay so we start at the same time as the stage race runners and.
00:40:46
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yeah It was cool to see them all rock up every day and and see how they were going because they were yeah putting in 40K day after day and yeah, it looked tough and I think a lot of it is about how well you can recover as well. So yeah, good luck to them over the four days. Yeah, nice. ah Do you want to take us through the Mylas? Yeah, so I guess the the big event or whatever the the event that the the the event that the event is named after is the full distance. So it goes from one end to the other. um I think we did a bit of a deep dive into the course um in in some of our road to JPT series.
00:41:23
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But yeah, Trail 2, sorry. Yep, that's it. um It's going to be a really exciting race. Say a few weeks ago, I didn't actually know who was running, um but now looking at the start list, it's shaping up to be um quite a good race. So in the women, we have um Cecilia Matus who came second last year and recently very recently came fourth, was it fourth? It was fourth at Asia Pacific Trail running champ. So she um she's in very good form and she ah has seen the whole course, which I think will be um will be very useful for her this year. um She's up against some some really good runners. So Lou Clifton, I'm pretty sure she ran last year, but she actually unfortunately injured herself part way. um So she had to pull out.
00:42:15
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um and up against Lucy Bartholomew as well, who ran the 50K last year. um And we all know how good Lucy is over the mile of distance. So um I'm really excited for for that matchup. um I think you've also put Sally Theobald here, Sim. I don't know Sally. Do you want to give her a shout out?
00:42:36
Speaker
Yeah, so Sally, um I knew the name from somewhere. I think she was, she was third at Ranlara Pinter last year. So went the distance there. And then she was also third at one of the 2023 Warby Trail Fest 50K, which is probably where I remember her name from. um And then, yeah, she's, uh, just a name I recognized on the start list from a few different runs. So she's, I think she can go the distance, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. No, it'd be exciting to see how she goes. And there's definitely a chance, like who knows what can happen. All of those other three runs are very strong. You never know what can happen over a hundred miles. So she still, um, got a chance at that podium, that top three, um, jumping to run through the man as well.
00:43:25
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Yeah, yeah. Rolling. So in the men, we have some ah returning runners from last year. So we had ah George Murray, who I also think didn't finish last year. um I'm not sure if that's 100% correct. Sorry, George, if that's wrong. um yeah But I do know ah he was up the front at the start of the race with Matt Crean and Michael Dunston. And they were going fast, all three of them. um They covered the 50K.
00:43:55
Speaker
really quick. So the first 50K is the same as the 50K that me and Sim will be running. And they did really quick times on that. And then they continue to hold that pace um until they ran into a storm. And then and then I think um they all they all managed that a little bit differently. And and ah Michael Dunson made it to the finish line first. But that was such a great battle to see. And it'll be good to see how George goes this year. I'm sure he's back for a bit of redemption. um The other name from last year that jumps out is Chris McAuliffe, who I believe came third last year. So he ah he was not up the front with the others the day, but he was the one that sort of survived. And I think he was breathing down Matt Crian's neck near the end as well. um So he had quite a good run. um I so always say he's out running um in the Yu Yangs doing some crazy long runs. So
00:44:49
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I've actually seen him out there a few times. I feel like every time I've been to the Yu Yangs, he's there. So I think that's one of his training grounds. So good to see how Chris goes. um And then we have a few other, probably one of the biggest names um we've seen at this race or even some races in ah in Australia. And if it's right,
00:45:09
Speaker
um It will be very exciting to see. So Max King, who's an American trail runner, he has some really impressive results. I can't remember them off the top of my head. do you know oh Max, I had them. yeah Here we go. He was the winner of the 100K World Championships in 2014 and the 2011 World Mountain Running Championships. I think he's represented America multiple times.
00:45:33
Speaker
um he's u team UTMB index is 894. He's a really good runner. I think he was going to be coming out last year, but something happened and he didn't make it. um But at the moment, he's on the start list and his Instagram ah just checked out how to story of um him skiing and said it was his last run before heading to GPT 100. So it sounds like he's on his way. um That's going to be really exciting to see what he can do and see how he tackles this might be a bit of a um temperature shock for him. um But it'll be interesting to see how he tackles the
00:46:12
Speaker
the terrain um and then a couple of other Aussie runners or those that live in Australia, Owen Davies, who was at the Sky Running Champs ah running the long distance at the World Sky Running Champs this year. um He's also running and Thierry Lamarc, who I know has run a lot of these sort of longer races in the past, is also on the start list. So um yeah, both the men's and the women's are shaping up to be some really exciting racing.
00:46:39
Speaker
Yeah, nice. Very, very cool. Well, this is all going to go down from Thursday to Sunday. um There'll be trackers and all sorts. I'm sure, just check mine and Brady's stories. We'll post stuff. um Yeah, and I think GPT, well, at least last year, they did some really good coverage on their social media. um I'm not sure.
00:46:59
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ah if It'll be exactly the same this year, but yeah, um yeah if you want to follow along, the miler starts at 12.30 on the Friday um and will run through to sometime on the Saturday for the winners coming through.
00:47:14
Speaker
Yeah, exciting times.
Listener Q&A: Trail Race Preparation
00:47:17
Speaker
Cool. Well, we're going to cover off a listener question that has come through now. And that is coming from Liz on Instagram. And that her question is that she's doing the KMR 25K in March and was wondering if we have any tips for building up for from a low base.
00:47:39
Speaker
So they're sort of getting started in trail running, got a low base, got a while until getting to that race, which is good. um Giving yourself plenty of time to build is definitely tip number one for me. ah so But Brody, and maybe give us the physio aspect. the yeah what's ah How would you yeah recommend someone builds up from a very low base of mileage safely? Yeah, I guess ah i guess it really depends on what what the low base is, whether that's ah running low base, activity low base, like is it is it doing nothing? Is it doing a little bit of running? Is it doing a little bit of running but a lot of sort of gym and other cross trading work? So it does depend a little bit on those things. um I guess the main things when I'm thinking like KMR specifically is yes, it's a 25K race but it's actually much more than that. it's If you think of it on the flat, flat it's more like 40Ks because it's got
00:48:36
Speaker
1300 meters of climb up and, uh, going up and then coming back down. So, um, you can expect to be out there any time. I think the fastest, uh, males was 210 last year, fastest female somewhere in the two thirties. So a lot of the runners are out there for say three, four hours, um, over four hours. So it is, it is actually quite a long race. Um, so that's probably the first thing I'd take into consideration.
00:49:05
Speaker
It's probably the same as ah probably very similar duration of running to a marathon. and And so you can think of it that way if you have any idea of what your marathon is. Except I'm going to say that it's not the same duration of running, which is a key thing here.
00:49:23
Speaker
Which I think makes it a bit might similar to your duration of running to a marathon. No, no, no, but I'm talking. It's a movement, but you're hiking. You don't have to most people will be hiking a lot of that. It's not the running motion and it's not the impact load.
00:49:39
Speaker
that you're actually trying to build yourself up for. um yeah so Which is where- It is a different base, but duration-wise it's the similar, but it's, yeah, the distance and the impacts are ah very different. Very different, yeah. I answered this question actually at the store run today. Some of us were asking,
00:49:58
Speaker
About hiking and and and kmr everyone was hiking like the top the top men were hiking so yeah there were Everyone on that course is hiking at some point um So you if you're hiking you're not you're not going slow. Yeah, you're actually doing what you should be doing um I'll get around to answering the question But that's the first thing is like know what you're signing up for is probably the first thing in terms of building up. um But then when you say you're wanting to build up from a low base, it' say don't rush towards the twenty don't rush towards the race. So don't go, oh, it's only three months away. I really need to do this so that I can do this training. If it's your first 25K or it's your first race like that, then
00:50:44
Speaker
just I would suggest approaching it to complete it and then the one after that you can try and go a bit harder. So if you're on a low base now and you're trying to run KMR in March, I'd be doing mostly just focusing on volume.
00:51:00
Speaker
um not throwing in too much intensity um just so that you can really focus on getting that volume up enough um that you will be able to get around the course. And and so that means starting wherever you are now, try not to increase any more than 10% each week and really try not to sort of increase probably more than 10% over the period of four weeks would be good, but it really depends what level you're currently at.
00:51:26
Speaker
um But yeah, that would probably be my main tips and um get out on similar terrain. Feel free to hike, do a lot of hiking. um The duration is the important part, I think, um and getting out on on your legs and and and and in similar terrain. So that would be my thoughts. What about you? Yeah, I think my biggest tip for, and this is for someone not trying to build up to a flat run, like this is very specific to a run like KMR. And that is that the safest way to build up from a low base is actually to, um depending on how much you're already running, I've very successfully prepared newer trail runners for a run like KMR through leaving them running exactly as it is, if that's three or four times a week, um maybe only 30 minutes at a time to an hour at a time. So they're not actually running that much, but we add two long hikes.
00:52:19
Speaker
into the week and the hikes get longer and longer and longer. So it might be that your running stays exactly the same. And then I add in a one hour hike and a 90 minute hike to begin with. And because they're such lower impact, um they're easier to build up the time on feet without affecting too much of the injury risk or the other running.
00:52:42
Speaker
But you're then doing the other running already more tired than you were. So you're getting a slightly different training stimulus in the running that you're doing by adding only hiking in. um And then those hikes can go up to the time that you are going to be out on the race course. So up to the four, even five hour hikes. But when I'm doing this with a newer runner, I'm very specific in that they are never running in these hikes. um The running is the shorter parts. The running is for the running days. On a hiking day, they're putting a pack on so you you've got a bit of weight too on you. um And they're just getting the legs used to moving up and down.
00:53:19
Speaker
Now I'm not going to send someone for a four hour flat hike walk because I think that doesn't achieve the pro, achieve either. So when I'm sending someone for a hike, it's, it's always hilly.
00:53:30
Speaker
So it's always going up steep hills, down steep hills. And then you don't actually end up covering that much distance. um So your distance you find your distance doesn't jump up that much, but your time on feet jumps up um over time. And that can be one way to build it up um for someone just trying to complete the run. ah For someone just trying to get into more running, if everything Brody said essentially, like don't add too much too soon,
00:53:58
Speaker
um When I'm adding for newer runners, I always add it in as run-walk. So if they're only used to hour runs, I might start them on an hour to build up the run time-wise, but have them take walk breaks every even 20 minutes, 30 minutes, give them five minutes to sort of and absorb or let stop the legs from having to do the exact same motion over and over just anything to help you gradually ease your body into the training required without it being a shock to the body because it's when you shock the body that you get injured um or things start to go wrong.
Race Results and Highlights
00:54:35
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um So in many ways, when you're just trying to complete one of these things, you want to get the work done in the easiest way possible for your body to begin with, because the pushing comes after, after your body's sort of, as I tell some of my runners, your body needs, to you need to earn the right in a way to push your body to its limits, because you'll find the limits a lot sooner and normally via injury if you do it too soon.
00:55:01
Speaker
ah So hopefully that helps. good yeah i think Let us know if not. good overview um but yeah Thank you for the question and keep them coming. We'll try and put posts out every week. We don't always get there, but they can come in via direct message or in person if you see us out any way possible. But to finish us off this week, we're going to go through some results. Now I was up at GSCR or Great Southern Endurance Run.
00:55:27
Speaker
and very cool event. I do love this one. I think this was the first year they didn't have the miler. So they got rid of the 100 mile out of this one and the longest now is a 50 mile race which and the courses all a bit different. Now this course forever, at least in my experience of being out there, gets affected by weather because you're up in the high mountains.
00:55:50
Speaker
um But ah this year it was weather-wise, overall went off without a hitch because the storm stayed away until just after the race was done. um But for the 50 miler, we'll start there, um the men's winner was Julian Schultz in 10 hours 45.
00:56:13
Speaker
Not that far behind in the end was Luke Barrett in 10 hours 52. And again, not far behind. It was actually a really cool race to watch because these guys were not far but away from each other all day. And that was ah Francis Collins in 10 hours 57. So only 12 minutes between first and third over a 50 mile, almost 11 hour race.
00:56:33
Speaker
um So yeah, they're tracking each other all day and on the women's side, ah actually fourth overall was our women's winner and that was Morgan Lane in 11 hours 19. Second female was Marika Walsh in 12 hours 36 and third female Grace Wellington in 13 hours 38.
00:56:56
Speaker
I think I was at the 53k point and at that point I think Marika was in the lead so Morgan Lane has come home very strong in that one and then for the 56k that was one which the results online don't actually show the reality of what actually happened out there which I find very interesting but um Tom Dade got the win in six hours 45 I think based on his Strava. ah Second overall and first female was Mia Noble in I think about six hours 57 just under the seven hour mark. um And then third overall second male was Mitchell Thornton in seven hours 15.
00:57:44
Speaker
And then, geez, I've made this a confusing way to do it. But second and third female was Sarah Tapp in 7 hours 50 and Sarah Jackson in 7 hours 58. So first female, Mia Noble and Sarah Tapp and Sarah Jackson. And part of me just absolutely loves this. We had three females finished before we had three males finished.
00:58:06
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um Because Sarah and Sarah were fourth and fifth overall. And then in third male was Jake Watson in eight hours 16. So on the men's side it was Tom Dade, Mitchell Thornton, then Jake Watson.
00:58:21
Speaker
Uh, that was GSER. Um, they had a couple of other events, but we'll go through now the Trail Running South Australia Twilight Race 1, which this one was a 10K and this one was close. Very cool to see because on the men's side, it was won by John Songai in 3817.
00:58:44
Speaker
So, must be a pretty fast course on O'Halloran Hill in South Australia. Then second was john Jordan Harvey in 38-32, so what's that, like 15 seconds back or so? And in third was Duncan Moore in 39-55.
00:59:01
Speaker
On the women's side, first was Belinda Richardson in 46-23, second Abigail Drew in 47-35 and third Lisa Davis in 47-37. So two seconds there between second and third. Nice and close. Brody, you're taking us to Stromlo.
00:59:20
Speaker
Yeah. So this weekend they had the Stromlo Running Festival. um So they had a lot of races. I tried to pick out some of the, and some names I knew. um So the longest distance was the marathon. So we'll cover that one. um I'm not exactly sure where this one runs, but I think it's around Stromlo Forest as well. Maybe some on the cross country track. I'm not sure, but it seems fairly quick.
00:59:46
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ah because the first male was Jordan Cowley in 3 hours 12.02 which is pretty speedy for a marathon. Um, if it's on how much on the trails. Uh, second was Michael Daly in three hours, 1454. And third was Ronan McNally in three hours, 2045. Um, then in the women, uh, first was Joe Acier, Zach Razuski. I hope I got that right. Probably didn't three hours, 59 44. Second was Chloe Hanbury in four hours and five.
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and third was Lindsay Hamilton in 408.37. So that was the marathon.
01:00:32
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They also had a 30K, which also seems quite ah some quite speedy times. So first in that was Matt Gore running 201.30.
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Second, Michael Chapman in 206.22 and third, Trevor Spencer in 211.25. um And the females first was Brittany Harraden in 2.17.44. Second was Emma Sullivan in 2.23.42. And third was Ellen Bradley in 2.33.19. I'll do one more because I think the 10K also looked Uh, had some runners that I recognized and was quite far. So Andrew Gattanby got the win 35 27. So he's got John's time, um, from over there in Adelaide. Um, second was now was Carl fun in 36 24. So not too far behind.
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And third was Jack Ratz in 38-47. First female was Julia Murphy in 44-19. Second, Lily Mooney in 45-02. And third, Sarah King in 46-40. We went on to all those runners. Looks like a pretty cool event. There's lots of people running across lots of different distances, so a good shh.
01:01:57
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a good showing there. um I've also got the results for point to pinnacle. So this is a road race, but it does have 1200 meters of climb in it. So I'm going to call it halfway on the way to a trail race. So yeah this race goes from, I'm pretty sure it's Sandy Bay where the casino is. ah which is the point up to the Pinnacle in Hobart, which is the top of Kanyani or Mount Wellington. So instead of the way that we do it at KMR, where they go the shortest possible direct route, this one goes up the road. So it's a road race, but it has a 1200 meters of climb in 21.1 K. So I think it's pretty brutal from what I've heard. I've never done it myself. I really want to.
01:02:47
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Um, sounds like a very cool race. Uh, the other, uh, thing is we had some trail runners doing it. So in yeah nice the men first place was James Hansen, who's a fairly well-known runner from Launceston. He ran one 25 54, but not far behind. us Yeah, it's really quick.
01:03:09
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Not far behind him. Uh, we'll call it friend of the podcast. Very good friend of the podcast. Leo Pederson ran one 26 25 to come in second. Um, oh le so that was, yeah, a really impressive run from Leo. Um, third place was Brett Ellis in one 28 21. And I'm pretty sure Benson Lawrence came forth. So the quality of the field was really good. Um, so yeah, a fantastic run there from Leo showing.
01:03:38
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Uh, the trail runners can run on the road pretty well. If you put a big hill in it, um, he's very good at running on the, he's very good at running on the road as well. I was going to say he's pretty fast and he's up is good. Yeah. I looked at James Hansen Strava, the gap pace for that race is three 17. It was showing up on Strava. So pretty quick. Um, when they take it all run faster than that for an actual half anyway.
01:04:08
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Yeah, probably. Yeah, true. Yeah, they would. That's actually not that impressive. yeah stra Strava's done them. Strava's done them a dirty, I reckon. and um Yeah, yeah. In the women, ah first place, well-known runner down in Tassie Millie Clark, who ran 141.51. Second place as Melanie Daniels in 146.26. And third was Malayeva Matis.
01:04:36
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matty's in 146, 48. I've heard some tricky names today. have ah They also had 10 kilometers. So we had some other a trail runners doing that one. um So the 10K goes to the fern tree pub, I think, which is about halfway.
01:04:56
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Um, yeah so the winner in that was Isaac Bonsie in 37 58, which is very speedy. Um, he's actually in the 16 to 19 category. It's so showing up here. So a junior doing very nicely. Um, second place, Toby sparks, who was running triple tops last weekend. I think, um, he ran 39 30 and third was Marcus Seeley, who runs a lot of the, um, Kanyani trail series. He ran 40.
01:05:25
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39 and I think Dave Bailey may have been fourth. um In the women, Ruby Smee actually was third outright to win in 4023.
01:05:39
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ah Second was Abby Butler, 48-46. And third was Anna Smee in 49-02. So maybe two sisters on the podium, maybe? I'd guess so. Who knows? Sounds like it. Who knows? Nice. Nice. And one last result from overseas.
01:05:57
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Yeah, so also just um we've covered a few of the races this year, as well as I've run in a couple of the races of the World Sky Running Series. um So that had something like 24 races over the whole season, but.
01:06:11
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they have a final at the end of the season where essentially the series is decided um and I think you have to run four races to qualify and essentially all the very best Skyrunners were at this race and it was yeah very deep and very very exciting race to watch. I was sort of following on the stories and a lot of ah backwards and forwards in both the men's and the women's Um, lots of changing of places. Um, so I think the race was like 40 K with 3,700 meters of climb. So it was literally just going up and down the entire time. It looked really nice. Um, in the women, uh, Anastasia rub to sober one in five hours, 38 53, I think she was actually in second or third for most of it. And she took the lead.
01:07:01
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near the end. She's a lady that I was racing in Korea, so it was cool to see her get the win. um Second was Julia Font in five hours 40, 58. And third was a sprint finish between a Jana Cortazar running five hours 46, 40, and Hilary Girardi running five hours 46, 41. So they sprinted to the line after running five hours 40.
01:07:31
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daniel I think I saw on Hillary's Instagram that she should have been prioritizing some sprint training for her six hour race.
01:07:42
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I just love that. What happened in the men? In the men, Roberta DiLaRense finished a fairly incredible season. I'll call it. He won. In a really packed field and Roberta's had like a really crazy season. He's been running Sky Running and Golden Trail Series. I think maybe he was fifth or sixth overall in Golden Trail Series. And he had some injury troubles that pulled him out of a couple of races and stuff too. He also won the European mountain running up and down champ. So he's had a really good season. He won the race 4 hours 45, 48. Not far behind was Luca del Perro, 4 hours 46, 49. And third place Manu Marillas in 4 hours 47, 16.
01:08:30
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So very close and they beat some quality runners like Frederick Tronchard was in fifth. Antonia Martinez was in sixth. I think Rui Ueda was leading for most of the race, but then blew up a little bit and came in like 12th or 13th. Japanese style. Yeah, he went hard early.
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01:08:47
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He had like a minute gap at like 13K. I was like, what's going on here? He's either on or he's going hard. He was going hard. He was going hard.
01:08:57
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Yeah, so that was a really cool race to watch. The overall winners of the season were the two winners. So Roberto won the men um and Anastasia won the women. So good on them. I think it's quite a big prize pool for the overall. The individual races have a little bit of money, but it's 20,000 euro for the win. So yeah, they had a bit on the line and both of them I think were leading and and held on to it. So good on them.
01:09:21
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Yeah, very cool. Nice. I need to go back and look at the results and some of the footage from that. That'll be damn cool. Awesome. Well, that ties up our results for this week. Now what's coming up next week is the ATR Summer Series 1, Onkaparinga River. How do I pronounce that? And where is that? Oh, South Australia. So it's Adelaide Trail Runners. so Adelaide Trail Runners. I get it now. Cool. I guess different to the trail running South Australia.
01:09:51
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Yes. Yeah. Two different series. Adelaide has that many trail runners in such a cool scene. I have no doubt that they have enough people to get to all of these events that are put on. And then South East Queensland Trail series is also on Bayview Race there. Grampians Peaks Trail, obviously. And another one is at Coast to Cozy is next weekend.
01:10:11
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Oh, is it? I missed that. Sorry. Yeah, 240K race from the coast to the summit of Cozy. A good portion of it's on road. I don't know how much of it's on trail, but there's definitely some. um But yeah, the coast of Cozy is starting or probably on Thursday or Friday. um you Do you know anyone running it? I feel like Coast of Cozy used to be like the premier ultra event, but with the the introduction of lots of back out ultras, I guess big races like GPT, um lots of people running across Australia. Like I feel like it's just, it's yeah lost its relevance a little bit, but maybe I'm just not across it.
01:10:49
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Yeah, I think it's, it's ah I'd almost call it one of those cult events where once in a good way. where once you're ah Once you're interested in it, it's a bloody cool thing to be able to achieve and do. and Yeah, it's so cool. Like I know there's a lot of people that probably return to it and they've still got the full application process to actually get a start.
01:11:06
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um I'm looking at the start list right now because they actually have it on the website. the One name I recognize is Ben Coobra. I'm not even sure where I nick recognize the name from. I think he's um part of Vlad Shatrov's sort of like run. yeah okay ka or I don't know if it's pronounced K or Kai Brets. I've definitely seen his name before on some of these really long distance races. um I'm doing this on Nicki Wind.
01:11:36
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I know her name. Um, I'm doing this completely on the fly here. Ah, Simon Neal. He's a, he's from Vic. Um, so good luck, Simon. I know him. He's deep been, uh, he does well at all the really long distance races here in Vic. Um, so yeah, I think there's only what?
01:11:56
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or I don't know how many people are here on this start line, but maybe 50 to 80. I don't know, but it's a pretty small race. Yeah, definitely limited entries. It's a very big logistics race for like your crew having to get you from the start to the finish and stuff. So um yeah, but um yeah, that'll be, I always love following that one along.
01:12:16
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It looks damn cool, damn hard to do. But, uh, uh, coming up for both of us is just GPT and... Oh, you forgot about the, uh, combo race that everyone's been hanging out for that they didn't know that they wanted to do. No, I purposely did that. I don't like these races. Why don't you like the fishing one? I philosophically disagree with catching a fish and piercing it and then throwing it back just for fun.
01:12:42
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Yeah, it's true. but That is the sport of fishing. Can't deal with that. Sorry. like You're just hurting it for your own entertainment anyways. I'll go on a rant if you let me. um Definitely disagree with this race. so I'm sorry if for someone you put that in there for someone wanting us to spook it.
01:13:01
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but No, I just saw it in the, I saw it in the calendar. I thought it was interesting, but yeah, it's a, it's a, that's a, definitely a take on it. It's a, so people know what we're talking about. It's a, it's a race, a running a trail race where you have to catch a fish during and then release it. And I think you've got to take a picture of it or something. And then somehow your fish and your race time add up to your result. So interesting. Not a race, not a race for Simone, Rick to do. No, not a race for me, but definitely not a race for me. That's for sure. Just a race for someone. I would just... No, my heart would break. Anyways. Anyways. Conversation for another day. We are not...
01:13:47
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um Cool. I think that ends us up. that's ah That's us for the week. I think next week it will be interesting. Both of us recap in the same 50K. I'm looking forward to the road trip with you and a fun house. We've got us staying with Kate Avery and Sarah Ludo and a few others. So it's going to be a good week.
01:14:07
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Yeah, it's going to be exciting to watch everyone racing. um lots of Lots going on, the miler, the stage race, lots lots happening. I'm doing a little volunteering gig at one of the aid stations, so I'll be cheering on the milers at the start of their race. Hope everyone stays cool.
01:14:22
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and Everyone look after yourself out on the trail, stay cool no matter what race you're doing. And yeah, thank you so much for listening. Keep the, any sort of, any questions, queries, requests, results, keep them all coming. Thank you so much for joining us for another week and we will speak to you next