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After their run ins with the dreaded podcast bots, a new organisation calling themselves the Brolly Corporation have emerged from the shadows seeking to destroy indie podcasts once and for all. It's up to Satsunami and the PodPack Collective to stop them by discussing the iconic gaming franchise Resident Evil! Welcome to Resident Evil Month!
In the final episode of Resident Evil Month, Satsunami is joined by Jules to discuss an odd duo of games in the Resident Evil Revelations series. Where did Revelations 1 succeed where the second failed? Why is it a bad idea to have your leg hanging out your wet suit? And WHO does Claire Redfield look like?! All of this and more in this episode of Resident Evil Month!
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Transcript
Resident Evil Month Recap
00:00:00
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previously on Resident Evil Month. Wait a minute, did that leave the catalogue? I think they all ran out of town when the big muscle zombies started hunting them down. Oh, that makes sense, big zombie, what now? Oh god, my leg!
00:00:16
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What the pain! Do you think that's Spanish for Welcome to Resident Evil Month? Absolutely not. Go, go, go, go, go! I want you to call me by my codename, Adam Breadfield. Nope, absolutely not. Nope, no way. Don't say it.
00:00:33
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Vampires. Satsu. Haunted dolls. I said don't. Rubik's Cube babies. And now, for the conclusion.
Post-Broly Corporation Life
00:00:46
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This is the life. No more Broly Corporation, boulder smashing, or multi-Airbnbs. Just a cruise out on the open sea on this wonderful ship, The Gone Podcasting. ha Wait a minute, is that? Hey Satsu, long time no speak. Fancy playing some bingo?
00:01:05
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Oh cool, sure, I'd love- Wait a minute, cameo from another content creator, Resident Evil reference. We are on the ship Gone Podcasting, right? Of course.
00:01:16
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Oh. Oh, thank God. Which is what I would be saying if we weren't on the sister ship, the plot twist. Oh, why is that a thing? So you mean bingo, no relaxing, and this bracelet that does nothing but whisper ominous threats? Ooh, is she yellow now? Eh, it's probably nothing. Welcome to Resident Evil Month.
00:01:37
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Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of Resident Evil Month. My name's Satsunami joining me today is none other than the one and only Revelations expert herself, it is Jules. Jules, welcome back to Chatsunami. Thank you for having me.
00:01:55
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i love Resident Evil, so I'm very happy to
Exploring Lesser-Known Resident Evil Games
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be here. And last week, you thought it was the last episode. Yep, spoilers. We are back and we are indeed talking about, quite an interesting pair of games. Is it right, Insanjos?
00:02:13
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I would say so. I feel like these are definitely the more forgotten games, to say the least, because I rarely see anyone talking about them compared to the main series, or even Code Veronica X, which is not a main series, but that's definitely way more talked about than Revelations. Yeah, would you say that Code Veronica is definitely the one that people are clamoring for a remake compared to these
Desire for Code Veronica X Remake
00:02:33
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games? And I know I'm jumping the gun here, but... Oh, absolutely. I haven't personally played it. It's on my list of ones to play, but I think out of all of the Resident Evils that I see clamoring to be remade, it's always Code Veronica X. Yeah, I have gone back and played all the main fine games. I've played, well, obviously, Revelations. what do Yeah, let me just tell you everything about it. It's going to be brand new. Yeah, it's like, I'm just going to sit back. You know, you take the episode from there.
00:03:01
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But, you know, i played Revelations 1 and 2. I played a handful of the others, but I did try to play Code Veronica, and it's got those icky tank controls. Oh, yeah. Oof.
00:03:13
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Yeah, I got my butt kicked. Not even by a special zombie. That's what's so sad. It wasn't like a crimson head or a hunter. No, no, no. Just your regular droll as a
Personal Gaming Experiences
00:03:25
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zombie. I didn't realize he had an explosive barrel beside him.
00:03:29
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but Yeah, they didn't paint it red. It's like bright white. How am I supposed to know? Anyway, yeah, so i had to put it down for my own sanity and safety. I don't blame you at all. i mean, I've got a few friends who have said, why don't you review Code Veronica for the month? And I thought, I don't have the time. I'm going to be honest. Between all of the other games, even though I haven't completed Resident Evil Zero yet, I've played a chunk of it. So far, it's all right, but but That one is also on my list. I've bought it, I'm like, okay, once I finish the ones that I'm currently playing, it's next. Just got them in the crosshairs.
00:04:04
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I mean, then again, speaking though of Resident Evil games to play, you've definitely played some of the more, and I'm hesitant to say this in case the Resident Evil fandom come after me with chainsaws, but, you know, you've played more of the, again, not obscure, but the spin-offs, let's say, like, Outbreak, is
Resident Evil Spin-Offs and AI Mechanics
00:04:21
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that right in saying? Yeah. Yes, I'm currently playing through Outbreak and I've played Survivor, Umbrella, Chronicles, Operation Raccoon City. I've played a lot of just the ones that have gone by the wayside or ones that quote unquote people call bad. Yeah. But I thoroughly enjoyed Survivor for what it was. It was pretty goofy. Outbreak, I'm really trying to like it. There's just a lot of this was made in a time period where it just could not thrive.
00:04:45
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was made today it would be really good but it just was hindered by its limitations so has it got those tank controls going on or do you at least have the analog to move around in yes you do have the analog to move around but the inventory system and just your partners being worse than cheva's ai is just the whole game of fighting what's the worst problem that you're dealing with oh now that is a bold claim come on now Oh, no, I have said this on my streams that I will hands down defend Sheva's AI after playing Outbreak. I will think it's the god tier AI compared to your companions in Outbreak.
00:05:21
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They will literally just run off and do whatever they want and just die. And then it's like, well, where are you can call them all you'd like. There's a whole mechanic system to it of like, hey, if I need help, you can call them. But they can choose programmed in their AI whether they want to help you or not. and you don't choose the companions. It's whoever you pick as a character. They just assign them to you. And you'll sometimes get stubborn companions. And if they don't feel like helping you, they just won't. Just imagine, you know, you're yelling on someone saying, no, come on, and it's safe here. And they're just in the corner like, my time has come.
00:05:51
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Or they'll just take items that you need. And you'll be like, where is this item that I'm looking for? And then you find them. And it's like, oh, it's in their inventory. Okay. Just aggressively eating all the green herbs. Yeah.
00:06:03
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Or like if they do need an herb to heal, they will not use it. It's like, please, can you use this so you don't die? I'm good. No, I don't think I will. but ah but Anyway, that's next week's episode, of course.
Market Trends and Resident Evil Collectibles
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as soon as i find a copy that isn't 100 pounds oh man i bought it right before the nine announcement yeah so it was still relatively cheap quote-unquote for ps2 games i think i bought it for like 60 bucks and i was like okay let me buy outbreak 2 as well before the prices skyrocket and then as soon as nine's trailer released it went out the window for the prices for the games it's insane honestly it is so surprising and i know this isn't the topic of But is so surprising. See, when you see yeah ah game get popular by proxy, for example, the Deadpool game or Sonic Adventure 2 when the Sonic 3 film came out, you look at the website going, oh yeah, that's a nostalgic game. Maybe I'll pick it up. How much?
00:06:57
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No, I can't afford a second mortgage. What are on? How much is my kidney worth? But anyway, enough about Rule of Rose. I was actually having a conversation with someone about that that. You can't really play it on stream unless you either admit that you're really rich enough to buy a copy, you're either really lucky, or you're playing it through dubious means.
00:07:19
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Yeah. It's like, which Russian roulette would you like to choose from today? But anyway, speaking of Revelations, that was a terrible segue, I apologize.
Resident Evil Revelations 1 Analysis
00:07:30
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Is that the name of the game we're talking about?
00:07:31
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That's crazy. Yeah. What coincidence, though. yeah what a coincidence you know it's only been what one two three years since you've been in chat tsunami yeah ah probably the last time after this but So out of curiosity, obviously you were talking there about your history with the games, but what is your history with both of the Revelations games? Were you a fan slash player of them when they came out, or did you come into it later on? So Revelations 1, how I discovered it was pretty interesting. I had played, my first ever Resident Evil game that I played was Umbrella Chronicles on the Wii. I was like, 12 years old. And that was my first experience to Resident Evil.
00:08:12
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And then I got into five and six because my friend was like, hey, these newer Resident Evils are out in their co-op. You want to play them with me? And I'm like, I don't really have that much knowledge on Resident Evil, but hey, it's co-op. And I wasn't even into horror games either. so i was just like, okay, sure. And I played five and six and then Umbrella Chronicles was next for me.
00:08:31
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And then i saw Revelations randomly on a shelf at GameStop. It was like the 360 version. I didn't play the 3DS version. So I picked it up. I played it for about an hour or two. I think I got stuck on something. was like, okay, whatever. I'll come back to this later. And that later was like 10 years later. So I played it fully on stream about a year ago. I love Jill Valentine. So I went into do it. I was like, okay, this is a Jill game. I'm going to enjoy it.
00:08:55
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And did end up enjoying it. Revelations 2, I played it directly after because I was like, it has to have something relevant to the first game, right? Yeah. Yeah. but So that's how I got into both of them was I got into my Resident Evil binge two years ago and I was like, I'm going to play every Resident Evil game I can get my hands on. And then eventually it was, okay, let's play Revelations. I enjoyed the first one and then the second one. i was like, okay.
00:09:20
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That was the game. Yeah. No, of course I know. I totally agree with you there, because as I've been talking about throughout this month, and the Pandalurids who have been binging these episodes, ironically enough, will be sick of me saying that. But I started off with Resident Evil 4 remake, and then I kind of did the Benjamin Button route. I was going back and forth, which is obviously how Benjamin Button goes, clearly. LAUGHTER Yeah, I went back and forth from 2 to 3, then I played 7, 8, 5, 6, you know, I was all over the place. And Revelations was one of the last games that I played for Revelations 1 and 2. In fact, I think I might have played it between when I was waiting for my friend to play 5 with me and 6. I was like, you know what? Why not? I've got it in my backlog. Let's dust it off. It's fine. And I'd heard about how it was out for the 3DS.
00:10:11
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And I remember at the time hearing that and thinking it is so weird that they would make a 3DS game right for this franchise, you know,
Balancing Action and Horror in Revelations
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for a console that is, again, you know, it's for everybody. It's not just for children. But I mean, come on, Prime Mario. It's targeted. i mean, it's different for the Xbox and PlayStation. They're kind of more older, even though it is all ages, but really Nintendo.
00:10:35
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but I know you get mature games on it, but it just seems like a strange thing. But I thought, you know what? It could be interesting. Obviously, I was a big scaredy cat as well, so i never tried. Until recently, and I played the Steam version.
00:10:47
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Yeah, I thought the first game was very over-the-top, very bombastic, and we will get into it, of course, soon, but it was interesting. It was definitely action-oriented, whereas the second game was just such a rug pull. Touching on something you said there, are where...
00:11:04
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It was like, well, yeah, I'm sure it has something to do with the first game. And I think it references the first game maybe once or twice. And then that's it. You never hear. Yeah. And you're like, this is just such a bizarre series. And I know why people want a Revelations 3, because overall, spoilers, they are pretty solid. But it seems like a bit of a whiplash between them, doesn't it? Oh, 100%. feel like there's very little connection, even gameplay-wise. I look at Revelations 1 and I'm like, it's this kind of tight corridor. more or
00:11:38
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I feel like I was more scared of the first Revelations. I don't really get scared mostly of Resident Evil games, but... I felt more anxiety inducing from the first game because you're in this tight submarine ship thing and you're going through and it's like, okay, I got to conserve my ammo. I got to make sure that I'm fighting the right things. In the second game, I felt like they were trying to throw in every genre of game.
00:11:58
Speaker
Okay, this is going to be a stealth section. Okay, this is an action section. Okay, now you're just going to be wandering around as a little girl. It's like, can we just focus on a genre for this game and not throw everything into it and hope it works? Ooh, survival horror. Ooh.
00:12:12
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yeah feels like a survival horror to me the second one it just didn't hit that same survival horror feeling to me it felt more of just a generic horror i can't really say that we're trying to survive with all these enemies i think my biggest problem going into two is that you'll have these areas with a lot of enemies and then it's just desolate in other areas and it's like this is crazy how these maps are so big but then it feels like there's literally nothing it's like you know that dragon ball meme where it's like let's fight where there's nobody around yeah
00:12:44
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Yeah, Revelations 2 would be a great place. Just Goku and Vegeta going at it. Like, oh my god.
Atmospheric Tension in Revelations
00:12:51
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I couldn't agree more. Because, I mean, Revelations 1 does kind of have that, but not to the same extent. You're right. There's always a purpose for certain things. And have to say, it threw me off guard when I was playing 5, and I must have played 5 after Revelations, because there's a scene in that where, I can't remember what bit, but you go into a boat and you have to fight off I think it's Xela or someone. And I remember going up to the deck and everything. I was like, hold on a second. Is this the same damn ship?
00:13:20
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And it obviously makes sense. They would use the same assets. But I was like, son of a... They've used the same ship. Is this the Zanemia 3? What's going on? There's always a bigger ship. Right.
00:13:33
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I was like, what is... Oh, but yeah. See, on that note, while we dive in and see the good, the bad, and the downright oddities of this game, ah So we'll be right back after these messages.
00:13:46
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Welcome to Chatsunami, a Scottish variety podcast that discusses topics from gaming and films to anime and general interest. Join me, your host, Satsunami, as well as the rest of our Chatsunami team for our takes on these very important pop culture topics. Sir, it's clearly a trap. I accept your page! That happens three times in the film. Every time that general goes, don't do this one thing, he goes, do you know what I'm gonna do? That's the exact... It doesn't well. She had the pointy teeth. What was that about? She looked like Bilbo when he wants the ring back.
00:14:20
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00:14:37
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00:14:43
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Character Dynamics in Revelations
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00:15:01
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00:15:14
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00:15:30
Speaker
oh thank god for that that'll do and we are back so let's start with revelations one because let's face it it's probably the best place to start number one i guess so i mean we could have started with two but if you want to start with one i'm okay with it mean i'm gonna start in a positive here come on i think if we started with the second one it would have been like let me tell you about these invisible damn bucks who what was umbreella thinking, okay, or somebody tries it, or somebody, whatever.
00:16:02
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Whatever three-letter acronym organization was in this game. Speaking of acronyms, yeah. I have to say, i really liked how this game opened. You had this, was a news report of well, a fake city called Terragresia, which was like a floating man-made city or something. And then it was like, oh, by the way, it's gone now. you're like, hmm, that was quick.
00:16:26
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It's like, I wonder why. As a big umbrella. Dang you, umbrella! as your fault some but yeah i thought the intro for this was absolutely fantastic and it did took me in surprised andly because i didn't know what to expect i'm gonna be on this but were you the same when you started this I was immediately drawn in. I think I've mentioned that Jill is my favorite character, but that already had drew me But I was just like, okay, where are we going with this? This isn't a random mansion. We're not in Raccoon City. What are we doing? And it starts off kind of slow, but I feel like it needs that for where it does go. And then when you do get onto the ship, it just, it keeps building that tension. And I like that anxiety feeling I felt throughout the whole game because Because you didn't know what was going to be around each corner, what was going to be in each room. It wasn't like opening a mansion door hey, I'm going to go into this random building in Raccoon City. was truly unexpected. And I really liked that about the game. Yeah, because it was almost the opposite of Biohazard, wasn't it? where at the very end of the game, spoilers, but you end up on the ship, and somehow that's the worst bit of the game.
00:17:32
Speaker
It is. And this, the whole game is just the ship. Well, not all of it, but the majority of it, and you're like, oh my god, we're gonna... I'm gonna ship! But I mean, as you said, we get Jill Valentine, and she is partnered up with none other than the one and only protagonist himself of the Resident Evil franchise. It is Parker, of course! Yeah! Round applause for Parker! Our favourite Italian! A.K.A. No, i probably shouldn't say that about him. I was gonna say Carlos from Temu, but... but
00:18:04
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Carlos is one of my other favorite characters, so I'll allow it. I mean, to be fair, I did like his character. That was harsh, but I did like him. But it just felt weird. They were like, of all the characters they had at the time, they were like, yeah, let's add another BSA and get used to the acronyms.
Fashion Critiques in Resident Evil
00:18:20
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the bsa person to accompany her i thought that was quite strange that just right off the bat jill was paired with someone else but i mean it was still cool and their chemistry together was really good except for that one weird scene where i don't think the animation really matches up where she winks at at one point and you're like are you okay jill is there something wrong with your eye like yeah that was him no So randomly, I played the first one in Japanese as well. So Parker has this really deep voice like, daijoubu, Jill-san! It's like, it's so unexpected for how he looks.
00:18:57
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Jill has this nice soft voice and then you just have Parker just barreling and I'm like, this is not what I expected. But you know what? He's a good guy. Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, at the beginning, i was like, I don't know. And then it's a bit like Carlos as well when you get to know him. Which sounds so curly.
00:19:13
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It's like, you know, have dinner with him, go through a zombie infested ship. The best kind of meet cute. Yeah, exactly. Where did you meet your Tinder date? Yeah, that's the one collaboration I don't want to see. Resident Evil X Tinder date.
00:19:27
Speaker
There are dating sims in Resident Evil. I've played two at this point. Oh, so you have. Every time I'm scrolling, either on TikTok or Instagram, I see you pop up. And I'm like, okay, what curse game are you playing in Resident Evil this time? And it's like, oh, dating sims. Oh, okay.
00:19:43
Speaker
Not to sidetrack too much, but I played one where you date the women of Village. And then the recent one I played it is where you date Leon, for specifically during 4. Is that not the one where you just died randomly?
00:19:56
Speaker
I died at the very beginning of the game because my character had set bombs around and Leon didn't disarm them, so he died. saw you pop up in this old Leon on the scene. What's going on here? And it's like, you're dead. That was a quick speed run. Jesus.
00:20:10
Speaker
What a dating sim. I feel very accomplished. I mean, this is what Revelations needed. They needed condition sometimes. I mean, Jessica was trying with Chris. She was really trying. Oh, we'll get to her. i'll be okay We'll get to her.
00:20:24
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I loved her. Pre-Rexit, I loved her character. I have thoughts. but Thoughts and prayers. Yeah, I have thoughts. Speaking of interest interesting characters, can we talk about Columbo in this game? Ah, yes, yes.
00:20:38
Speaker
I have no idea what he's called. i have completely forgotten. know what you're talking about, yeah. All I can see, though, is Columbo. And it's every time he pops up, I'm expecting him to turn around and say, oh and Jill, one more thing. Surely somebody must have thought that when they were designing him. I don't know how popular Columbo is in Japan, I'm going to be honest.
00:20:57
Speaker
It's not my speciality. You're telling me not a Columbo month in the making? Well, yeah, we'll see. If the evidence falls into place, we'll see. But yeah, it's like at the very beginning, you're on a beach and you have to get
Innovative Mechanics and Glitches
00:21:12
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to grips. I actually like that tutorial.
00:21:14
Speaker
Same. I thought it was a good tutorial. It's just Columbo watching you search for seashells and things. It's like, this is interesting because they give you big scanner thing, which i have to say, I did like that mechanic that you could scan around the environment and you could also scan different enemies to get to know them better. Again, so you could kill them, not so you could take them out. Well, you take them out, but in a different way. Yeah.
00:21:36
Speaker
ah next dating sim i'll find it exactly but yeah it was really well done i mean it's a bit slow paced but again the whole game is relatively slow paced and i have a confession to make at the very beginning you go into the ship to rescue chris you go into this room and my game actually broke because i was playing it on the steam deck and the compatibility what it wasn't set correctly So you know the scene where it looks like it's Chris tied up on the chair and then it's like it turns out, oh, it's a mannequin and they tear the terrorist group are like, ha ha, I got you. yeah That whole thing was just static to me. I had to go and Google it and be like, what did I miss? Right, okay, they're captured. This is very important. How did I miss this? The most important cutscene.
00:22:21
Speaker
Ah, you're fine. You don't need this. But I mean, I don't know what's worse. That or, and I mentioned it last week when I was talking to Dan about Resident Evil 7 and 8. When I was playing 7 on the Steam Deck, that is quite bad for compatibility. And you know the scene at the beginning where you're driving towards the Baker Mansion? So I didn't realise this seeing the different gameplay, but it turns out there's a bubble of textures around you while you're driving, so it doesn't load, you know, the whole map around you. And I only realised this because I got hit in the face by what I can only describe as the pansexual flag.
00:22:55
Speaker
and But it was just completely freaking out, the textures and things. I'm like, why is he driving towards the pansexual flag? Is this going to be important for the plot? Spoilers, no, it was a game plan. Yeah, so when that happened as well, i was like, well, I didn't get any pretty colours, but I got to get static and, oh, Jill, she's been captured. I'm like, well, how the hell did that happen? And of course, yeah, you get captured and then it cuts to Chris and Jessica. Let's talk about them.
00:23:23
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Because Jessica is one thirsty lady. Oh, 100%. In the Japanese version, she is constantly saying, ara ara, in that kind of voice. And it's like, yeah.
00:23:36
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It's like, ah-da-ah-da, Chris-kun. It's like, okay, it's... silly We're going down this route, okay. Emma's like, when I was downed and I'm trying to fend off these wolves, and she's like, I'm getting my sweet ass over there. Chris is like, come on, just help me out here. I don't care. As long as those cheeks are carrying a gun. Just go. Again, I wouldn't call it annoying, but just baffling.
00:23:58
Speaker
Right? She had a thirst that I think I've only read in the Bible. Of biblical proportions. It was just every time Chris was on screen, she was like, I can be your boulder, Chris. I'm like, why Can we talk about her fashion sense? 92% of her fashion sense, right? Perfectly fine. No complaints. Why the wetsuit?
00:24:19
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but So, funny enough is that I do like a fashion reading series with my girlfriend, and we did Resident Evil, and I had Jessica in there, and she's like, what am I looking at? but she She's basically neutral towards a lot of the fashion, and then she saw Jessica's, and she's like, well, that was a choice.
00:24:36
Speaker
Not a good one, but a choice. It's baffling, because, I mean, she does look relatively, I mean... From my perspective, I was getting eaten by wolves at the time, but yeah, from what I could see past the fur balls going by my face. is Yeah, you know, she seemed relatively fashionable throughout the game. And then there's a scene, for any Pandalurians out there listening who don't know what i'm talking about, just Google.
00:24:58
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jessica resident evil revelations wetsuit and trust me this isn't a trick or anything you will see a woman with one of her legs hanging out the wetsuit and the other with the
Plot and Characters Analysis in Revelations
00:25:09
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full leg and sat there thinking is my game glitched or is this and then i looked it up and i'm like no no no this is right this is someone who's going into the middle of the sea could possibly be diving in and she's she's bearing her leg for everybody I really want to know what the inspiration was, Capcom. Please inform us. i don't know if you've seen that as well. You know the concept art for Jill and certain outfits they wanted for her? I think so, yeah. No, she doesn't need to be wearing a bikini throughout the entire game. Yeah, you're just sitting there like, oh...
00:25:42
Speaker
Again, to borrow your words there, that was a choice. That was certainly a choice. See, even if it was like short legs, you those types of wetsuits where it's like the shorts instead of? That i could understand. I think, okay, that's a bit weird that she's got that when everyone else is fully wetsuited up. But you know what? I can barely understand that. Her leg is going to be frozen off. That's the whole point of a wetsuit. I guess you're trying to tease Chris like, ooh, look at my one leg. Let's see if you'll see the other one.
00:26:10
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I don't think this is working for you. I hate to inform you, Jessica, but... I mean, have you seen his massive biceps? He is clearly not a leg man. yeah She was already losing at the off. funny No chance. And then, of course, she has... Again, I cannot remember his name, but Conan O'Brien in this game, who is part of the FBC...
00:26:32
Speaker
I'm like, what acronym am I using? Yeah, he is a... I don't want to judge a book by its cover, but he always looks shifty in every single scene. He does. No, I agree.
00:26:44
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Tell me I'm wrong here. Because he always looks as if he's hiding something, and technically he but you're like, can let me both why can't you be normal? yeah And I mean, when you look at that, you're like, yeah, clearly there's something wrong Again, you've got so many acronyms in this game. You've got the BSA, who are the kind of UN who fight against bioterrorism. Then you've got the FBC, which is like the American version of that, I want to say.
00:27:12
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I think so, yeah. I think that's why i remember that so well, because I remember playing it and I thought, of course America have their own version. Yeah, as an American, I can say, yeah, we would do that.
00:27:24
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And then, of course, in this game, they're fighting the terrorist organization Velcro. I did not Google that, I swear. Because I nearly called them Velcro. was like, are they? Velcro, Velcro, same thing. We're Velcro. We're constantly on you.
00:27:40
Speaker
if we peel off you, you're gonna hear it. I have to say, I was actually surprised at how little a part they played in the game, because, you know, they built them up. And this is something that I saw another reviewer bring up, was that during this time in gaming, there was a lot of episodic games, you know, like your Walking Deads and things like that.
00:28:01
Speaker
Or, sorry, Telltale's Walking Dead, Not the show, of course, but games like that where it's like, oh, we've got one episode for this and then you have to buy the next one and the next one. So it encouraged players to pick up each game each week and there was this, as we riffed on at the very beginning, previously on Resident Evil Revelations. And I felt it was playing a Netflix game. I was like, ooh, what's going to happen next? Although it's annoying and we all get into Revelations 2 when they do it because it just spoils the whole next episode.
00:28:31
Speaker
part and you're like oh if you're binging it it just as spoils it you're like oh why why are you telling me that's that they've survived or they're not so much i don't want to know this but yeah for this one it was i mean it was interesting the way they tackled it how did you feel about it playing through i didn't mind it too much because i played it mostly in like three hour stream sessions i basically did like three chapters i think a stream so that's how i paced myself so don't I felt like there wasn't really a particular part where I was like, okay, this is going too fast. This is going too slow. It's like, this is going great. There are questionable parts of the game. we haven't even mentioned these characters. I think their names are Quentin and Keith. Yes. not
00:29:09
Speaker
That section. I was like, okay, I kind of want to put this game down. Yeah, I was like, did I put in Mad Company 2 or something? That's where it felt like a completely different game. i was like, who are these people?
00:29:22
Speaker
What are we doing? does this have to do with the rest of the game? do you know what it reminds me of, though? Have you ever played Deadly Premonition before? I have started that game a while ago, but I never finished it, so I know it's kind of a joke horror game. That sounds about right. You said you started it, you haven't finished it yet. That sounds about right. Yeah, the tonal shift in that is, that's absolutely wild. I love it, but it's one of the worst, best games are played kind of thing.
00:29:51
Speaker
Yeah. There's an episode all the way back in season one for that. But yeah, it reminds me that where you've got a very serious horror topic going on where it's like, oh, there's dead bodies popping up and there's a bioterrorist threat and oh, there's a whole city that's been blown up.
Horror and Absurdity in Resident Evil
00:30:07
Speaker
And then you've got these two chuckle you-know-what's going around. They're like, oh, just plug in the hard drive.
00:30:12
Speaker
I'm trying. Again, I'm totally with you. What were they thinking? Yeah. Yeah, no, that felt like the comedy filler episode right there. it's like, hmm, this game isn't necessarily long enough.
00:30:23
Speaker
What if we have this little section in here to pad it out a little bit? It was just strange. The entire time I was just questioning. i was like, can we get back to Jill or Chris? Yeah. yes Why do we have Beavis and Butthead in here? Yeah, you're right. It was just quite, a it was a choice.
00:30:40
Speaker
Right. I didn't mind. No, that's a lie. It's generous yeah It was just questionable. Because it's like, I have to say, when I was playing the whole game, i thought it would be cool to have a game that was just, oh, let's follow the BSA and different missions all around the world that isn't necessarily linked to a legacy character like Jill or Chris, even though you have to have them if you have the BSA. But again, yeah, it was a choice. I don't even know. It was just...
00:31:10
Speaker
Just strange. Just truly strange. Yeah, because it's like, oh my goodness, look at all these agents getting killed! Ha ha! And I was like, are you going to be on much longer? Because yeah i've got places to be i've got a month to edit like you're gonna wrap this up here are they getting sacrificed what's going on here yeah what are we doing here guys you know come on but ironically enough one of my favorite parts of the game was another cutaway slash flashback with i think you play as parker and terra grigia where you are in basically the final days of the city where it's been overrun by hunters and i think just hunters to be honest yeah
00:31:51
Speaker
and there was a lot of hunters yeah yeah that's such a weird thing to put in the city because i have to say after playing the other games i am terrified of getting anywhere near hunters the shotgun comes out and i'm like that is as far as you come and care about the frog i don't blame you there was a part in three when you're playing as carlos in the hospital and i thought i was gonna outsmart them and throw a grenade in there it bounced off the door and hit me but Just my luck. Of course. I hate these things.
00:32:17
Speaker
Just my luck. Would you believe that was the only bit of the game that I died in when I was playing through the three remake? No, I died a lot because of the hunt. I got so much bad luck as Carlos and these hunters. It's please let me progress.
00:32:31
Speaker
yeah it's like they popped up and you're like, ah they'll be fine. I'll just close quarter and I'm dead. Okay. playing around it's like okay shotgun out rocket launcher right everything out at the same time right let's keep you in the distance but that's for these ones they were so goofy they were goofy boys they might as well have been riding a unicycle because here come that boy here come those boys because you shoot them and they do like a leon kennedy backflash faceplant you're like i don't have the heart to put these guys out the misery they're already embarrassed he's gonna go home to his hunter wife and hunter children and be like oh yeah your dad didn't get paid today it like like know just leave it sandra just leave it gonna be shamed at the local bingo hall exactly yeah where are they going bingo well but he's not
00:33:25
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yeah it almost felt like a bit of a yeah what enemies haven't we used obviously we can't use the ooze enemies so yeah let's use these okay you're gonna just dump hunters that's like dumping the whole load of mr x's on well maybe not as extreme but yeah a whole bunch of mr x's is in the hospital you don't have to have that many mr x's yeah what were your thoughts in that scene though I liked it. I liked whenever they did flashback sequences. I wasn't like, oh, whoa, what what are we doing?
00:33:54
Speaker
I think I liked for the most part whenever we did break away from Jill's story. because It's like, okay, we're going to get a little bit of a breather of the super serious thing going on here. But yeah, I liked seeing what Parker was before and giving ah a little bit of backstory because a lot of Resident Evil's problems that I think people have even said on Twitter is they will introduce a character and then just never talk about them ever again. So it is nice to see them get some backstory in the one game that they're in. Into the box you go. Go, go, go. No, don't fit me Me on my hands and knees begging for another Carlos game. It's like, no, no.
00:34:25
Speaker
Parker, Carlos, into the same box you go. as Jessica, go in there. Most of the people in this game are in that box besides Chris and Jill. Yeah, Clive, Columbo, the FBC guy, Voltro, or Voltro, whatever they're called. the whole organization. FBC, they don't come back again.
00:34:47
Speaker
oh no just you wait they'll make a cameo appearance in nine oh god they will wouldn't they it's like oh yeah we were the ones who orchestrated raccoon cities like really okay fine pop off kings queens whatever pop off it was interesting i did like that but especially as part of the narrative but see out curiosity what did your girlfriend say about jessica's outfit and that flashback because i'm ah God, what did she look like? and i need to look at what she looked like in that flashback again. She was bright purple, essentially.
00:35:18
Speaker
She looked like the grimace's caretaker. She probably did not like it. Because I think she gave her, like, 4 out of 10 score for the most part. Oh, yeah, okay, I see this outfit. Okay. No, she did not like it. She's like, she's so pretty, yet she cannot dress herself.
00:35:39
Speaker
Her one flaw... her achilles heel there's a lot of people who look good in burgundy no jessica i mean the one time you're showing your legs i mean come on yeah But yeah, no. Fashion faux pas aside there.
00:35:55
Speaker
Yeah, I thought for the most
Memorable Enemies and Settings
00:35:57
Speaker
part, the story barely rocked along, even though it did get a bit Resident Evil convoluted at times. I keep forgetting there's a casino on this show.
00:36:08
Speaker
I love that level. I'm like, oh, we're just in a casino now. Okay. Yeah, you just come and you're like, oh, I'm in Vegas. Great. Let's go gambling.
00:36:18
Speaker
I need Leon in a casino level. The amount of puns that man would make would feed me forever. Where's everybody going? Bingo! Blackjack! Blackjack! He would be in his element, let's say. so 100%. I can't believe the Leon's been in the White House, but he's not been in a casino.
00:36:39
Speaker
ah Yeah, I have to say, it never, I mean, there was one or two moments where I have to say it maybe dragged on longer than it should have, but for the most part, it never felt overly boring, I would say, and that is quite a hard thing to do, especially on a big ship that looks the same around every corner.
00:36:57
Speaker
But yeah, overall, story-wise, it did feel a bit convoluted where Columbo of the BSAA was like ah see it's a double cross no a triple cross no quadruple cross and you know you got jessica and kubrian at the end oh yeah we are a part of i think part tricell or working adjacent so feel bad just need a bad organization it's just a frowny face
00:37:29
Speaker
This is the part of Resident Evil lore where it was like, okay, we can't use Umbrella because we quote unquote killed them all after three and four. So who do we use now? It's like, oh yeah, we have Prizel. It's like, that's not as cool and you know it. It's like, get that out of my face, how dare you? And then you've got Neo Umbrella, which we'll never talk about that again, coffee.
00:37:52
Speaker
Why did they turn people into bugs? We might never know. Yeah, speaking of, well, I was going to say questionable enemy choices, what did you think of the enemies in this game? Because, let's face it, one of the biggest things in the Resident Evil that makes or breaks it is the enemies. So, yeah, what did you think of them?
00:38:09
Speaker
I like the design. Those regenerator-looking things, I think, is it called, like, just the ooze? I think so, yeah. I could be wrong in this, and again, I'm hearing the pitchfork getting sharpened there, but I think it's a variant of the T-virus, but it's like the T-ooze or something. The twos, if you will. They missed an opportunity. Umbrella, please hire me if I can work from home. I don't want to be in your lab. I'll be your PR guy, but don't want to be in your lab.
00:38:35
Speaker
ah But yes sort yeah, guys. Yeah, I like the, especially because I played Resident 4 remake and I was like, these kind of look like the regenerators. So, and those to me are the scarier enemies in Resident Evil. So seeing those being brought up again and being in that tight spaces and them chasing you and you're still in that like conserve your ammo kind of mindset.
00:38:56
Speaker
I liked it. It wasn't regular zombies. The hunter designs are a little goofy to me. Whenever we have dogs, I feel bad. So I've always said this, that as the Resident Evil games progressed, the enemies didn't get scared. They got more disgusting. Yeah.
00:39:08
Speaker
This kind of hit the balance for me where it's like, yes, this is gross looking, but it's also scary looking. So I really like that they honed in on that balance instead of, hey, let's make Derek C. Simmons level things again. Oh, you mean tournament at Tyrannosaurus for no reason. Yeah.
00:39:25
Speaker
ah Even a few weeks on from that episode, i still can't get over how they went, okay, here's the natural evolution. We're going to evolve them like a Digimon, okay? So, zombie, Lego zombie, further Lego zombie, Tyrannosaurus Rex, big fly. Yeah.
00:39:42
Speaker
I mean, I don't know where the digivolving went wrong there, but something went wrong. I don't remember this last time I looked at evolution, but okay, Resident Evil.
00:39:52
Speaker
ah Darwin might have a few things to say if it weren't for Umbrella. Resident Evil Darwinism coming spring 2028. First off the list, Jessica, cover your leg. Anyway, sorry, Jessica bashing aside. Nah, I'm only kidding. For legal reasons, that is a joke. But yeah, I agree with you. I do think that the designs were really, at least memorable. I think one of the more terrifying ones was, I can't of remember what level it is, but it's when you're playing as Jill and you go upstairs and there's a guy trapped behind a door and you just hear him muttering to himself. And I think there's a document lying around or something, you know, basically. Oh, yes, yes, i know what you're talking about. documenting his descent into madness he's like oh i gotta do this and yeah then he bursts out the door like the kool-aid man and you're like oh that is delightfully horrifying i haven't seen one of them before so yeah you have to fight them and oh it's kind of a double-edged sword because i felt as if it's strange how there wasn't more variations of them but on the other hand i'm kind of glad there wasn't It felt quite comfortable enough that you knew there wasn't going to be many, except for, is it Rachel who gets infected? It's the FBC. And again, it's FBC. You can't see it. I'm counting on my hands for some reason. like, FBC, yes. It's an FBC agent who goes in and she unfortunately gets infected by one of the new zombies in
00:41:19
Speaker
Yeah, she turns into her own variant. Yeah, you're supposed to chase her down and try and kill before she gets to a certain point, but my game glitched, so she was just running on the spot.
00:41:33
Speaker
It was quite embarrassing, not gonna lie. Oh, this is strange in a Resident Evil game. Yeah, I was like, this is new. all in the beginning section. That's what I really like to say. It just kept drawing you and drawing you and it's like, come on, you know, you want to keep playing it. This beginning section is so good. But yeah, what did you think of that boss fight?
00:41:52
Speaker
Because there is another boss fight I want to ask you about but because before we get into them. Yeah. What was your thoughts about, well, that character design and the overall boss fight experience? Let's just say I definitely love the design. Again, it combined just gross enough, but not I'm repulsed. Yeah, this is kind of scary. And I know she wasn't a main character. i was like, oh, I'm already emotionally attached to this. Like, oh, I feel bad. So I just remember I was like, wow, I'm surprisingly invested in this. And then I feel really bad fighting this character. They do a good job. But for the most part of getting you attached to these characters where you're like, oh, I want to see how did this goes. I want to see how this person gets on. Not you.
00:42:33
Speaker
You get out of here. You creepy Skeletor looking, you know what? You get out here. In the bin. Yeah, go on, get, get. ah Just ushering him out. Like, come on, go, go, go.
00:42:44
Speaker
Yeah, it was just, i know he was the good guy and everything and it's don't judge a book by its cover, but you're just sitting there like, clearly there's something here. And at the very end, you know, you see him meet up with Jessica, who I have to say had a bit more fashion sense.
00:42:59
Speaker
Thankfully. Yeah, can you imagine? It's like, oh, you're wearing burgundy again. Can you impress me a little more, Jessica? Come on. It's like she had that big hat going on as well.
00:43:11
Speaker
I could not take her seriously in that. I was like, really? We're fighting a serious threat here and you're like, hmm. Yep, this is the perfect attire. What i find amazing was the fact that we're in the middle of this. I mean, don't get me wrong, it was very upper class and everything, but it was this normal, like,
00:43:27
Speaker
big cafe kind of thing and then whips out the specimen and slams it on the table and he's like do you know anything about this? I'm like put that away that's a bio weapon Worst date ever Yeah It's like you said in your profile you were 6'3 after I take this I will be ah like I like don't want to say that I'm gonna be honest I think you already took the T-Virus Sorry I know I'm bashing here but yeah no no it's Truly, when you see this guy's face, I was like, oh, why does he not look like anybody else in this game?
00:44:03
Speaker
Is this a different game I'm playing? He looks like Claire in Revelations 2. Okay, not that bad. Okay. That was too harsh. Oh, the Claire stands are going to be on you. They're business. Ah, yes, for legal reasons, and I'm looking at my Red Panda lawyer in the corner.
00:44:19
Speaker
but Yes, he's giving me the thumbs up to say for legal reasons that was a joke. apologise to the Claire stand-out.
Final Boss Challenges in Revelations
00:44:27
Speaker
Moving on. Yeah, let's talk about the other elephant in the room. To distract from that elephant, that of course being the final boss of this game where you fight against, I think his name's Jack, which is the most normal sounding name ever. Not Krauser. Not Krauser. I think it's Jack Norman or something.
00:44:45
Speaker
So, so, Resident Evil has such good names and then they're just like, what if we have basic ones too? Like Leon S. Kennedy, Jill Valentine, Chris Redfield, all really good names. And it's like, Jack Norman. Okay.
00:44:57
Speaker
I mean, the test for it, I suppose, is like the Matrix one where, you know, when he says Mr. Anderson, like if he can't say Mr. Norman in a really cool way, then you think- That's how they say it in Heavy Rain.
00:45:10
Speaker
That is exactly- Mr. Jayden Norman, they're like, Mr. Norman. Yeah. Mr. Norman. Nam and Jayden. Shout out to Heavy Rain, one of my favorite games. It's so good. You ever have a Heavy Rain episode?
00:45:23
Speaker
Oh, I did, but you know what? I'll go back to it. Genuinely, I will go back and be beautiful. David Cage month when? Yeah, truly. I can talk about all of them. I love all of them. Oh, I have thoughts about all of them. Put a pin in that, by the way, Jules. You've opened up the bonus bonus. I'm opening up the schedule for the rest of the year. I got you. Yeah.
00:45:43
Speaker
Month one, Heavy Rain. Month two. We're just gonna do every character indirectly. Indigo Prophecy. Oh god, I still need to play that. Oh. I'll just say it's an experience but without going on too much of a tangent. I mean, I've played the other ones, I will say. I've played all of them. That one was the toughest to get through.
00:46:01
Speaker
There's another game that, i think it was Dan from Casting Viewers, a huge shout out to him. And slash blame to him. Yeah. It's like, oh yeah, this is a David Cage game before Quantic Dreams or it was either before Quantic Dreams or before Indigo Prophecy. You're like, oh boy. oh no. Oh no.
00:46:18
Speaker
Only a seal of quality there. exactly. Oh God, can you imagine a Resident Evil game with David Cage like that? It'd be horrific, but morbidly curious. Yes. Give me either a Telltale or a Quantic Dream Resident Evil right now. we need the ambiguous accents for the plot, okay? Ashley, please get in that trash can. Okay!
00:46:40
Speaker
Ashley! Ashley! People hated her shouting Leon. Now we're going hate Leon for shouting Ashley. Well done. I'm the last black ass killer. You're all the last black ass killers.
00:46:53
Speaker
oh god, we need this game. We do, we truly All of Leon's like dialogue options are just puns, nothing else. Press X to backflip. It's just like, we're looking for the origami camera. Did you just backflip?
00:47:09
Speaker
Can you settle down, Mr. Kennedy? Leon, please. You're like a child with ADHD and a sugar rush. Please calm down. I'm helping. oh God. Anyway, our fan fiction is like, yeah. Jack Norman. Yeah, let's get to Jack Norman. As David Cage would, of course.
00:47:27
Speaker
as a frenchman yeah i hated that boss fight a same same i hated it with every fiber of my being i hated that boss but i was like wow this game's pretty decent then you get to that boss fight it's like war flashback like oh that every time like i see posts on twitter it's like oh when you replay a game that you like you get to that part yeah that's the that part Oh, it's 100% that part.
00:47:52
Speaker
I was watching a review today, just to refresh my memory, and someone got to that bit and they're like, oh, i love this bit because it gets you to use everything that you've learned throughout the game, blah blah blah. And I'm like, conceptually, I love that idea of, you know, a game taking everything and making you do that. But not for this game.
00:48:10
Speaker
But when it's in practice, it's like, ooh. This game made me cry, and not in a good way. like I emptied everything into this guy, and I was like, yeah how are you not dead? I've hit your eyes several no times, you know, I've blown up all your fakes.
00:48:26
Speaker
Dragon Ball copies here. Why aren't you going down? And, know, it's like, oh, I'm gonna be the terrorist of the world. I'm like, I don't care anymore. Yeah. You know what? god does Go nuts.
00:48:37
Speaker
There's the door. Have fun. I have no more bullets to stop you. Go forth and terrorize. I don't care anymore. But no, oh, it was horrific. And when people say that, they're like, oh, it's actually not that bad. Lies.
00:48:50
Speaker
Slander. 100%. How dare you come into my household? You also have to keep in mind that there's like swimming sections right before this and ah the swimming control. I'm sorry, but the swimming, those controls.
00:49:03
Speaker
Oh, they're awful. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like you already have that pent up of like, oh, least I'm not swimming anymore. And and then you just see this boss you're like, okay maybe I should go back to swimming, actually. I mean, it doesn't help as well when you're swimming as Jessica and she's leaning to the side all the time because half of her leg isn't covered, you know, so she's got frost. I thought that was a weird game mechanic they added in, but I thought, you know, props for realism. For legal reasons, that again is a joke.
00:49:27
Speaker
But anyone going, did they do that? It's like, no, no, they didn't. It's just me being silly. They're just looking it up like, what frostbite mechanic? don't remember this. They're going to add that somewhere. They should have added in six when you were on the snowmobiles with Jake and Sherry. Oh my god, yeah. How they got off that without being stuck to them?
00:49:45
Speaker
Also, I died so many times at that part. I was so angry. This is coming from someone who played, you know, the original Mortal Warfare 2, where you have to go down to the snow buggy. Yeah, you have to go down the snow buggy and have to shoot people.
00:49:58
Speaker
I thought I was getting that experience. Let me copy your homework terribly. Yeah, let me copy your homework, but also do it while blindfolded. And I'm not even drawing on paper, I'm drawing on your face. It was the worst. Oh, that was awful. I know we're not talking about Resident Evil 6, but they're all interlinked because, yes, Revelations does, for some weird reason, link to 6. I don't know why.
00:50:20
Speaker
Yeah, so strange where they put those games. They're just like, well, there needs to be something happening between 5 and 6. Revelations! It's like, okay, I guess. I did laugh at the bit, though. At the very end They have You know the DLC That you play I think it's Lost in Nightmares Yes Where you play as Chris and Jill And you have to Yeah Stop Seven Minutes Wesker At the very top Of the Not the Spencer Mansion But his second holiday home The guy's got a lot Of mansions Okay
00:50:50
Speaker
The one on the creepy cliff for some reason. yeah Yeah. Oh, I want a room with a view. It's like, well, I'm Mr. Oswald. What the hell? That was something that we spoke about a couple weeks ago when were talking about Resident Evil 4. And I was reading the cut versions and you've got Black Fog version, you've got the Hookman version. And then there was one where it's like, oh yeah, it's set in, I think, Spencer Castle or something. And thought, why does this man have a castle?
00:51:13
Speaker
LAUGHTER and He doesn't need a castle. This man has too much money. ah but The true enemy of Resident Evil capitalism. Clearly. clearly ah I tell me I'm wrong.
00:51:28
Speaker
All I'm saying is if Elon Musk or whatever had the T-Vinus. Anyway, I'm not going to finish that sentence for legal reasons. You can write your fan fictions yourselves in that one. Yes, go to www.wattpad.com. No, no, I'm joking. I'll be on the lookout.
Impact of Episodic Content on Pacing
00:51:44
Speaker
you want xt virus so yeah the very end they have like a wrap up of all the characters i love it for how cheesy it is yeah it's like oh what happened to the two doofuses oh they got desk dropped what happened to colombo he stepped down from the bsa oh no what happened to jessica who cares they're in the box and What happened to the FBC person? Who cares? He's in the box as well. going to change the acronym next game. yeah What happened to Parker?
00:52:17
Speaker
Well, he died, but he got better, so he's fine. But again, in the box. because So he's gone. They're all gone. Well, actually, 90% of the game's gone. Yeah, you've got Jill, who... They was like, but what happened to Jill?
00:52:31
Speaker
It's like, you that moment in Interstellar when he's banging the door and he's like, don't go in there. No, that was me. That was me watching that. good No, there's a whisker in there. He has seven minutes to play with you.
00:52:43
Speaker
We have totally not made the seven minute joke at least 20 times at this point. How many minutes are they? Seven? We're at 1.07. How many? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 minutes. Unfortunately, he's not in this game.
00:52:56
Speaker
Right. would have made the game so much better if he just popped out of nowhere, like, from the bottom of the ocean and was like, Jill, it's good to see you again. It's like, oh no. You're pitiful, Whisker. He just sinks back down. I probably saw Chris on the ship and went, no, I don't want to get laughed at again. i don't want to play with you anymore. Chris, you're always so mean to me.
00:53:17
Speaker
Chris is the true villain. He's always making fun of Wesker. He does, doesn't he, though? As a kind of summary for this game, i would say that it's a bombastic experience of typical proportions. If you want sea monsters, I was going to joke and say if you want Still Wakes the Deep with guns.
00:53:35
Speaker
You know, you're not far off on that one, yeah. yeah I really like Still Wakes the Deep. So, yeah, if you like that game and you want a gun, sure. Yeah. It's a perfect game for it. Sorry, I'm just writing a note here. Get Jules on for Still Weeks in Deep episode. Okay, done.
00:53:52
Speaker
It's a great game! It is! Oh, it's so good. But yeah, if you like bombastic action in your Resident Evil game and a little bit of horror, to be honest, it's a far too goofy to be scary. Like, there's moments of tension, i don't get me wrong, going through the halls and everything. finding out you're on the wrong ship, which honestly is like, you know those old, I don't even know what Disney film would have done this, but you know, those old films where it's like, oh, I've turned up to class, but I've forgotten everything. Oh, and I'm in my underwear. yeah
00:54:24
Speaker
It literally happens. Literally, that does happen because Jessica and Chris go on the wrong ship and you're like, why did they make two of these?
Speculations on Resident Evil 9
00:54:33
Speaker
No, no, no, not two. They made three of these. They sunk the third one. I was like, I'm done now. You know what's better than one boat?
00:54:40
Speaker
Three boats. Ooh, I will get one free. I don't know what you're planning, Capcom. See if they have the Queen Zenobia 50 or It's going to be the last level of Resident Evil 9. You're going to board a ship and then you're going to like rub your eyes be like, what's this ship called?
00:54:57
Speaker
The Queen Zenobia. Ah! Why is there a casino in here? It's just like the new stalking enemy just on the slots. That's where Leon's like, kept you waiting now. Oh, have you seen that picture as well?
00:55:09
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, for anyone who doesn't know, and this will probably date the episode when R&E 9 comes out, but yeah, there's a image circulating right now of people saying, oh, there's a leaked image of Leon Kennedy, and he's going to be in Resident Evil 9. Now, as of this episode, he hasn't been confirmed, but there's strong hints. No, we totally know. We just can't say anything. Wink, wink. Oh, yeah. Wink, wink. Capcom. Yeah. then Leave the money back there. are Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that that's fine. Thanks, guys.
00:55:36
Speaker
ah yeah There's a picture circulating where they did that thing of, okay, we haven't had this character in the series for a while. How can we show that time's passed? Give him an eye patch and a beard.
00:55:47
Speaker
Didn't someone confirm that that was just Big Boss from Metal Gear 5, but just edited? That's what it looks like, because i think it is an edited picture of some kind, but it does look like Big Boss. As you said, it kept your wind up.
00:56:02
Speaker
Leon, Leon, Leon! You know? If this actually happens, Capcom's going silence us. Oh, is that why there's a red dot floating my head right there? Oh, right, okay. Well, I had a good run.
00:56:15
Speaker
But speaking of not so good runs... What a transition. Yeah. In fact, sorry, before we go on to that, do you have any last thoughts about Revelations as a whole?
00:56:26
Speaker
I definitely recommend it if you want to play a Resident Evil game that's not super actiony, but it's also not super horror. Like if you just want that perfect balance, I'd say give it a shot. You're going to be mad at the end when you're playing the final boss. But I definitely recommend this one. If you truly want to get into the Resident Evil series, I don't even think that's a bad one to really get started on, to be honest. Yeah, because it is quite accessible, I have to say. As I said, for the most part, as long as you don't make my mistake in playing this Steam Deck, the Deck missed half the plot.
00:56:57
Speaker
ah The only thing you'll be confused about is like, why is Chris yearning for Jill so much? What's the history here? My god, he's so needy. I mean, me too. I would also be like, oh, Jill.
00:57:09
Speaker
but but I mean, first Chris, then Parker. The only person who's not needy for Jill is probably Jessica. That is probably why don't like them. How can you not love Jill Valentine? Come on. Right.
00:57:22
Speaker
Should have be called the Queen Valentine, God's sake. Truly. Oh, yeah, and something, something. They introduced raid mode, which was essentially mercenaries mode, but yeah, that's a lot. I can't really say much about it. It was fine. It was fun. It was good.
00:57:36
Speaker
It was a mode. Zombies go boom. That's it. There have been people on Twitter and things that like, oh, poured thousands of hours into this. I'm like, how? How do you do this? Because maybe it's just the monkey brain in me right now where I'm just like, okay, I'm bored now. No, was like when 6 came out, I tried like that extra, what is it? Like Mercenaries, Raid, whatever it is in 6. I played that quite a bit, but not to the extent where people were like,
00:58:00
Speaker
Here's 8,000 hours in it. It's like, oh, okay, maybe let's try a different game. Maybe, just maybe. Put down the controller. Oh, yes, those are finger indents in the controller. Right, okay. Maybe clean off the Cheeto dust a little.
00:58:12
Speaker
but Just blow it away, that's it. There we go. Why don't you try something else? Like, Revelations 2. Glad you were on the same wavelength. Oh, Revelations 2. So it begins talking about Teragresia again.
00:58:29
Speaker
Terra Save! yeah People say that's corny, but I bloody love that tagline. I was howling. I nearly had to pause the game. I was laughing so hard. So for anyone who doesn't know, the game begins with a... It's almost like a advert for this new organisation called Terra Save, who are more like a charity organisation.
00:58:49
Speaker
A bit like the Red Cross if they fought zombies, essentially. he talks about Terra Grigia, which is the city. we don't really talk much about Terra Grigia. We really don't. No, but long story short, the city was like a man-made structure. It was going to be paradise, and then it got destroyed through an inside job, and all the hunters face-planted and destroyed the city, essentially. so They threw on their unicycles. Yeah, so the city had to be destroyed, and, you know, it was a big sore point for everybody. So in the second game, they start off saying, well, look at us, we are Terra Save, and we are going to save the world. Obviously not like the BS- Crazy concept.
00:59:27
Speaker
Exactly, yeah. Imagine, couldn't be me. Anyway, legal reasons joke, etc. But yeah, they have this advert, you know they show themselves off, and their tagline is, terror save, because terror doesn't have to end with wrist.
00:59:43
Speaker
yeah And I was like... Already setting the tone for the game. yeah it's like, I want whatever that PR person is drinking, because that is brilliant.
00:59:54
Speaker
People were like, oh my god, it's so corny, it's so stupid. I'm like, sign me up. This is so stupid, I love it. It's actually Leon behind it. yeah He's just at the desk. Where's Leon being this entire time? Getting bloody bed sores from his chair.
01:00:10
Speaker
Oh, I love it. But yeah, then it begins with fan favourite and angel who can do no wrong, Claire Redfield. Redeeming myself. Yeah, and yeah she is. wouldn't say the head honcho of the organization, but she's pretty high up, isn't she? I think so. I think she doesn't become the head until whatever the recent movie was. I think she was the head in that one, but i don't think in this game she is yet. Yeah, because I think it's another guy who's the CEO. Yeah, she's high up and then she meets Moira Burton, who's... Hmm, familiar name. Yeah. Can I actually confess something here?
01:00:46
Speaker
of course. This is something I probably brought off in the past episodes, but I actually got Barry confused with Brad. no I was playing this, right? And there's a scene later on, Spoilers, you play as Barry Burton. And i was like, oh, cool, this must be way before Resident Evil 3. And then I was like, wait, no, that doesn't make sense because Claire, you know, is out. She's with Terrasade. That was way after. and i was like, how does Barry fit in? Because- What's he doing here?
01:01:16
Speaker
Yeah, Barry died Raccoon City. And then- I had to Google it and I was like, okay, no, it was a guy called Brad Vickers. Why are the two people with the letter B such a name here? Why is there two people whose names start with the letter B? What is going on here? So I was genuinely so confused for half the game about how he was a laughing. can imagine that.
01:01:38
Speaker
I was genuinely... It was like when Moira said, oh, I'm Barry's daughter, I'm like, rest in peace, Moira. I'm with you. Solidarity. She would have been looking at me like, he's not dead.
01:01:50
Speaker
And there's Billy too. There's a third B name. Oh, for God's sake. Choose a different letter, Capcom. Imagine if you This is Billy's daughter? When did that happen? This is Wesker's daughter? What?
01:02:04
Speaker
so Screw it. Why not? But yeah, the intro isn't as strong as the first game, I have to say. No. You begin at this very high-functioned drinks and canopies, let's just say.
01:02:18
Speaker
they're playing that advert the background. It's like, because terror doesn't have to end in this. And yeah, then masked people break in like the Dark Knight Rises or something. You know, and you're like, oh, oh, we're doing that game. You know, just going up to Claire being like, where are they? Yeah, what were your thoughts, sorry? No, yeah, it's slow in a bad way. Unlike where it's slow in the first Revelations, it's like, okay, so we like the slow start.
01:02:45
Speaker
We're going to do that again in Revelations 2. And the entire time I'm like, okay, so is Jill going to come out of nowhere? where I was just going to relate to the first game. And then it's like, oh. That's the neat part. It doesn't. Yeah, that's the neat part. It doesn't.
01:02:57
Speaker
I'm like, okay, we got Claire. I loved Claire 2. I'm so for this. And then everyone is like, Claire needs more games. Let me get fully into this. And it's like, oh, this is Moira. She's Barry's daughter. And I'm like, okay, I like Barry. jill sandwich, one of my favorite lines. And I was just like, when are we going to pick up?
01:03:12
Speaker
Okay. Oh, we're in a prison now. Okay. Oh, what's this funny wristband? just just watching you like, oh, okay. This is new. Not what I expected. Two stars. We were in police department, but we were never in a jail.
01:03:29
Speaker
this is new territory. Okay, let's see where we go from here, team. Come on. I have to say the prison was creepy. I kind of hesitate to call it creepy because it's kind of...
01:03:42
Speaker
cheating in a way you know it's like having outlast for example you've got it in the asylum and oh it's spooky because everything's upturned and it's abandoned and obviously you want a spooky location for a spooky game but then you've got the guy with the peeled face going oh i'm a zombie i think oh let's go i mean probably don't know probably i mean maybe it was just acting i don't know Yeah, you're like, alright, it's going to be one of these games where it's like, oh, we're upping the horror, oh, let's go.
01:04:13
Speaker
but no No, no, no, no, please. But yeah, you're right. It's a slow burn. And I can see why people at the time must have been annoyed at this game because every week you had to buy... a new episode. Yeah. And then you bought the next part and the next part and some of these parts aren't as good as the others. Yeah, I'm going to be honest...
01:04:32
Speaker
I was going to say, at least you compared the prison section to a good game like Outlast. I vividly remember comparing what I compared this prison
Walking Dead Destinies Critique
01:04:39
Speaker
section to. don't know if you remember last year when that Walking Dead Destinies game came out. It was god awful. It looked like it was made from the PS3 era, but it was 2024 release. And it was like, rewrite the story of Walking Dead. You can have Shane live this time. And it was basically like that. And I was like, wow, this reminds me of when you're in the prison in the Walking Dead Destinies. It's so bad.
01:05:00
Speaker
because it's like wow it's just as sparse and there's like barely anything going on again i'm pulling up the chart with goku and vegeta on it again let's find somewhere that we can fight let's go to this prison oh i have to say initially i was like oh this is kind of spooky and then immediately that went from this is spooky to why is there a flamethrower at the entrance and jigsaw prisoner we in you know on the one hand you can be like oh it's to keep people in or oh it's to keep people out you're not doing a very good job if you need a flamethrower to do that for you that is the extreme that's like throwing a nook at someone that coughed at you the wrong way how much did all this equipment cost tax write-offs probably oh right right of course capitalism the greater enemy damn you
01:05:49
Speaker
completely off topic but if you want to subscribe to our patreon page patreon.com forward slash chat tsunami that's good capitalism we love good capitalism here yeah that's good capitalism this is bad capitalism this is american capitalism boo boo this capitalist system all of them yeah it did feel a bit contrived at times you're like oh look at all these zombies if only i had a massive flamethrower And then, yeah, you get out and I have to say, I did like the island for the most part, at least when you first went out. It got a bit tiring after a while, but, you know, seeing the bit where you get out the prison and you're running to the next bit and you go over the bridge, and was like, right, this is pretty cool. And I genuinely did not expect to just immediately be cut from Moira and Claire to, yeah, Barry and little girl who just wanders. Natalia. Yeah, little girl who just wanders along. island i feel as if someone should have been keeping tabs on this wee girl we'll get to that it was a strange dynamic but of course before we go further into the story what were your thoughts seeing the main four characters that you play as so claire i was excited because I, like I said, I love Claire. I think she's fun. I loved her dynamic with Sherry in two. And I was hoping, I was like, okay, she's with another woman. It's going to be a fun girls dynamic.
01:07:10
Speaker
Moira, I was immediately joking about because she kept making like millennial humor about everything. And I was like, I don't hate this, but if this is going to be her entire personality, ooh, this is going to be a rough one.
01:07:22
Speaker
i don't want to say it's like oh well this was 2015 so this is of the time but yeah you can tell it's from 2015 i mean the outfit alone come on i mentioned that when i was like what is moira wearing that's the thing that confuses me as well i mean obviously i wouldn't be going into like that later than that. I mean, i don't have the legs for one, but anyway, anyway you know, yeah, that was the, I mean, obviously I know why, because they couldn't obviously have her change in the prison and be like, oh yeah, let me put my combat gear on. The Jessica School Fashion.
01:07:52
Speaker
Yeah, and I know was like a casual affair and everything. Oh God. yeah I just registered what you said there. It was a deleterious one. Much like when I first saw Jessica and went, is that leg out dying sense?
01:08:06
Speaker
but Sorry, I know I said we'd stop bashing her, but no. No. Let the memes flow. But yeah, our outfit was a choice, wasn't it? Am I the only one who thought that? Sorry. Back when I was watching my playthrough, I was thinking it and then I said it during the stream.
01:08:22
Speaker
like You know it's bad when I'm thinking about it twice. No, no, no. Yeah, no, this isn't. And see Barry again because I loved his interactions with Jill in the first game. And like I said, Jill's sandwich is my favorite line besides bingo. If you know me, i use the bingo joke to death. But I was like, wow, we get to actually see Barry do something.
01:08:44
Speaker
I even suggested when I was playing through the game, i was like, you know, it would be cool if we got Barry's side to Resident Evil 1. That would be a great game. Instead, we get this. so Yeah, because the dynamics between the two characters, and I want to say this game is co-op, i hope it's co-op. It is co-op. I was going to mention how would have gotten one of my friends, would have been like, hey, come on, play this with me, but it's only local. You cannot play it online with someone. Really? Mm-hmm, because I was going to sucker one of my friends into playing it with me. Oh, that is cruel, Jules. Come on.
01:09:13
Speaker
Do you know what this game is the equivalent There is a narrative reason for why Boydard doesn't want to touch a gun. It's because, you know, she's an Xbox player, 360 no scope. She's just 2 OP. Too many Rust matches. Yeah.
01:09:26
Speaker
Everyone, come on Barry kept scolding her and ruts. ah But yeah, there's a narrative reason, of course, that because she had a very traumatic incident with a gun when she was younger, so she doesn't like using them until the very end. And I thought, okay, that's quite a cool idea that she doesn't use a weapon. So what is she actually going to bring to the table here?
01:09:46
Speaker
I had the same thought process. I was like, okay. And she ends up holding a flashlight, which is the Revelations 2 equivalent of the big scatter thing that you had in the first game, where she can find certain objects and they go ding. I called it Luigi's Mansion-esque when it first happened. i was like, am I playing Luigi's Mansion right now?
01:10:05
Speaker
i mean, you're not wrong. To be fair. I mean, I'll never unsee that now. You're not wrong. Whereas Natalia, she just kind of... Points at things. Yeah, she goes, I see dead people. Yeah.
01:10:18
Speaker
Do know what the dynamic reminds me of, though? Because you've got one character who shoots, that, of course, being either Barry or Claire, and then you've got the assistant role who is either Moira or Natalia. This is like the co-op equivalent of giving your friend the Madcats controller, because it's like, who did you want to play as? Oh, the cool badass who's shooting everything and doing all the action stuff, or the girl with the crowbar, which I'm sure is probably a Scandinavian horror series or something like the ghetto with the crowbarred and flashlight to bring back Quantic Dream it's basically because Beyond Two Souls was also co-op where one of you played as the main character and the other played as Aiden the telekinesis thing this kind of reminds me of that where it's like oh one of you gets to do something and the other just sits there oh I forgot about that
01:11:08
Speaker
Oh, I did not like that game. I have so many thoughts. Revelations 2 is the Beyond Two Souls of the Resident Evil franchise. I mean, it's a bold statement, but I'll live it. No, like you're not wrong. and Why would you say something so bold? yeah So controversial. It's so bold. It's true though, because it's like, oh yeah, let's have someone who does something. Let's have a literal child on both sides.
01:11:35
Speaker
I think I was more bothered between the split of Moira holding the flashlight because I would keep sprinting ahead of her and she would not keep up with me. So I'm like, oh, I'm in this dark room. And then it's like, oh, you're leaving Moira behind. And I'm like, I'm not trying to leave Moira behind. I promise. She's just so slow. Well, that only makes one of us, because I got sprouting. I was like, well, she got caught by the island. Let's go.
01:11:59
Speaker
The only thing that annoyed me about Moira, well, a lot of things annoyed me about but many one of the many you know pulling down the list here but i mean their dialogue as well going back to what you were saying about the references i mean the references like kind at all i of tolerate it was almost bordering on you know the first life is strange game i was going to make that analogy because i love life is strange in like an ironic way yeah i love the dialogue because it's so of its time oh yeah boyer would fit right in with chloe and max i 100%. could honestly put her in there. Keep the crowbar, sure, but she could go in and she would not look out of place. I was waiting for a mosh pit shaka bra anytime now. Yeah.
01:12:42
Speaker
ah The only thing I remember but about Life is Strange and my friend has said to me, oh, we should really do an episode on and things because it is. It's a good game and everything. The only vivid and visceral memory I have is walking into the wrong room and I think it's Chloe turned around and says, I don't care what anybody says. Final Fantasy, The Spirit Within is a great movie.
01:13:04
Speaker
And I was like, thanks Square Enix. Yeah. yeah It's like, thanks, very cool, guys. What's this game called again? Genuinely, I was like, okay, that's enough of this game. Life is lies.
01:13:16
Speaker
This is a game, by the way, that starts off with a student getting shot in the bathroom and everything and rewinding time and whatnot. Yeah, that is the thing I remember. but That series is near and dear to my heart. Oh, yeah.
01:13:27
Speaker
The first game is Chef's Kiss in like every way imaginable. of like Yep, this dialogue is cringe, but in so many good ways. And then yeah the most recent one, you know, it's kind of like Revelations 2. Not very good. So what you're saying is the new one.
01:13:41
Speaker
It's like the Revelations 2 of Life is Strange, yeah. What does this game have to do with the other ones? You got the same characters, kind of. Is there loose relevance? Maybe. For the most part, it looks alright, but am I the only one in thinking that the models are a little bit off in this game?
01:14:00
Speaker
No, they do. The game just reeks of being of the time period and not in a good way. I mean, that Claire herself, I don't know if it's just because they used a different face model for the game or whatever, but there were times and certain angles where she gave me impressions of, and people are going to kill me for saying this, so as soon as this part goes out, please distance yourself from me. She looked a bit like a female version of Tobey Maguire at times.
01:14:27
Speaker
You know what? I can see it. Yeah. And I don't mean this, you know, in no offense to the model that he used anything, but I just, I looked I thought- I mean, I love Tobey Maguire. I love Spider-Man.
01:14:39
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Well, she's just going down doing the Bully Maguire. That would have actually improved the game if that was like an emote option. It's like, oh, I think my dad's dead. do and and I can't hear you over this.
01:14:54
Speaker
Yeah, back to Moira instead of getting lynched by the Claire stanza. Again, it was a sailor mouth as well Yeah, now that you mention it, it's coming back to me of like, I'm not a prude or anything about cursing, but it's just like, is this necessary? Yeah, because i don't mind, you know, the occasional swear or whatever, and obviously she's immature and whatnot, but you definitely, when you were sitting there and listening to her going, oh, F this, F that, blah, blah, blah, F this, and I think she literally, when she finally picks up a gun again, and she goes, what, is it again like sitting a dildo boss or something? yeah It's no Ripley, that's what I'm trying to say. Yeah. It's no get away from her, you bitch, or anything like that. Not my first choice of words.
01:15:39
Speaker
but just There's a section I remember from the first episode where you like take a gear out of something, and she says, F technology, I'm like, what? Oh, yeah. What does that have to do with anything that we're doing right now? i guess the concept of gears powering technology. She's such a cavewoman, isn't she?
01:15:57
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Yeah. Oh, big shiny open
Repetitive Gameplay in Revelations 2
01:16:00
Speaker
door. Me swear now. ah was like Moira, you gremlin, get back here. I don't know. I feel as if for the most part, they definitely ramped up a lot of the wrong areas. You know, they still kept relatively the same action.
01:16:16
Speaker
Well, for Claire and Barry, they kept the same action. And in the raid mode, of course, where people put thousands of hours into the air. But yeah, they kept the action, for everything else, they tried to make it either as gory as possible. Like there's a scene where you go into an abattoir that is just literally, there's a pool of blood underneath.
01:16:35
Speaker
Oh my God. And you just have to keep putting meat in. Yeah. filling up with blood it's like what in the saw contraptions is this right it really feels like they watched a couple of saw i've never seen a saw movie i will admit but i've seen like clips of it of course and my girlfriend has told me about the series i'm like is this not exactly what saw is like did they just binge them and like you know what would make a great video game it's like you know that is this a jojo reference you Is this a Saw reference? Again, you've got the body horror, you've got the over-the-top gruesome deaths and things, which I have to say, whenever I ran into them, I was like, oh, great, here we go again. right
01:17:13
Speaker
You had a guy with a burning pot that, was like a demonic Winnie the Pooh, where it was like he would reach in with a stick or something, he would pull out fire, and then he would basically be like, I kiss fireball! And then he'd fire a fireball at you, like D&D, and you're like, this isn't Resident Evil! I don't like this. Yeah, was just a strange choice. But the other weird thing as well was that for Claire's storyline, and the big twist, of course, being that when you arrive as Barry and you meet Natalia and you try to rescue your daughter, you realise that six months have passed.
01:17:46
Speaker
And I have to say that, but I did not see coming. I was like, oh, shit, okay. Moira's dead, okay. Yeah. I was like, well, okay, we have some decent storytelling here. Okay. And then my intrigue immediately fell off my face when I realized it's just playing the same level over again as Barry and Natalia.
01:18:03
Speaker
I talked about this with a friend because he likes Resident Evil Revelations 2. And I'm was like, okay, let me hear what you like. And he liked the fact that you did things twice. And I was like, compared to Revelations 1 where you were backtracking, it felt like you were progressing. But this, it's just like, okay, you're going to play the same level again. Is there really any difference between Claire and Barry?
01:18:22
Speaker
Barry has his magnum. Okay, good enough for me, guess. I have to say that whole sequence where you had to carry the box really irritated me. You had to do it several times. There was actually one moment...
01:18:34
Speaker
I was like, had to carry the generator and there were hundreds of these zombies and creatures and things. I literally, I tried several, I died, but I tried several times just to get around them because I thought, I just want the box in the hole. like, the square box goes in the square hole. Why won't you let me put it in the square hole? It was my PTSD moment. I was like, I don't like this anymore. I want to go home. Yeah, completely right though. There's a lot of repetition in this game and not in the fun Resident Evil way. Yeah, it's just more, oh, do the same thing. to point A, go to point B. Oh, Moira has to pull this lever even though it doesn't give you time to run through the door. It's like, why can I not just run through as clear single-handedly? Oh no, you have to do this puzzle when there's laser beams and... Yeah. They just threw so many different elements in this game and it feels like none of them. It's Jack of all trades, master of none. But instead of like Jack of all trades, it's like, oh, this is things of all trades.
01:19:32
Speaker
And I wouldn't mind the repetition if the levels changed even like the slightest. But you can look around and it's like, oh, that spot's going be for Natalia when you play the level again. Or like, oh, this was when Moira did this. You like notice these things. So it just doesn't give you that different feel. Like when you're replaying Resident Evil 2, when you're doing Leon's campaign versus Claire's, technically you are playing the same game, but they feel different enough that it's satisfying. When you're doing it in Revelations 2, it's just like, oh, okay. I went through it with Moira and Claire. Now I got to do it again with Barry and Natalia. I'm literally doing it with a grizzled ex SWAT member and a literal child. Yeah.
01:20:10
Speaker
who does nothing but point at things like she's in a sweetie shop. I'm really curious who was like, you know would be a great game mechanic to introduce? Pointing. mean, that's true though. Oh yeah. You know Navi from The Legend of Zelda? Let's make that a child. Why though?
01:20:26
Speaker
I didn't even mind Natalia as a character. i was like, she's not really an annoying child. It's just the circumstances of this game where you have to play as her to point at things. It's like, you couldn't have done anything else. Like, obviously I'm not going to give this child a gun. But, yeah but Like, come on, the best you could do was pointing at things?
01:20:42
Speaker
Yeah, she could have had some supernatural. I mean, she already has a supernatural power anyway. We might as well have given her, don't know, yellow paint powers. You know in video games now it's like, oh, you go this way because there's yellow paint everywhere. Have that power where she shoots yellow paint out her hands and goes, you have to go this way.
01:21:00
Speaker
ah Thank you, Natalia. Very cool. Or even spraying those damn bugs, which I hated. Oh my god, yeah. I like the idea of it, much like Rome. love the concept, but let's face it, things went wrong.
01:21:14
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but Yeah, for sure. Yeah, they were just awful, weren't I don't know if you remember, even opening boxes was a whole concept in the game. There was two separate tutorials to open boxes because you had to like, there was like a lock pick mechanic.
01:21:28
Speaker
was like, why in my Resident Evil game do I need to go beyond slashing it with a knife or hitting a button to open it? I remember when the first tutorial popped up. It's like opening boxes one. I'm like, what do you mean one? And then like later in the game, it's like opening boxes two. I'm like, you cannot be serious. This is a joke.
01:21:45
Speaker
You're kidding with me right now. I bet it was the same guy that got Natalia to point at us. You know what would be a great concept? Making opening boxes a whole game mechanic. I've been playing this great game. It's called Skyrim. You're going to love it Yeah, was going to say, what am I playing?
01:22:01
Speaker
Skyrim? Hey, clear. You're finally awake, huh? We caught you trying to cross TerraSafe. Let me go back to sleep, let me go back to sleep. Yeah, I feel as if this game just completely ramps up all of the wrong elements, and I think this is probably the best time to talk about the seven minutes in the room, as it were.
01:22:23
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That, of course, being Wesker. But it's not Wesker, as you know it, because he's pitiful when he's busy being in a good game. Yeah. No, it is his sister, who we never heard about until now, Alex Wesker. Right. What is it with Capcom? Right, we've had Barry, Brad, and Billy.
01:22:41
Speaker
Now we've got Alex and Albert Wesker. Choose another letter, guys. It's not that difficult. There's 26 on them, come on. Not even Wesker's son has an A name. Exactly!
01:22:52
Speaker
Right! sadly Oh my god. Yeah, what did you think over? Honestly, she's so forgettable to me that I'm just like, oh yeah, she was related to Wesker, wasn't she? Again, not to sound like a psycho, I didn't laugh so much at what happened to her, but it was more the, hey kids, do you want to see a magic trick?
01:23:11
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because throughout the game and i will talk about this in a minute but you've got these bracelets that are attached to you and everything and if they
Alex Wesker's Storyline
01:23:20
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turn red then it means that you have exhibited a lot of fear responses and it mutates you because she's infected everybody for some reason with this yeah with this mysterious wesker disease let's face it that's just something i was going to mention earlier before i got I thought, oh, that's a really cool game mechanic. Does that mean that you're going to have like a fear meter or something? i think it would have been annoying, granted. concept, like an interesting one, but I can't imagine that would probably limit the game into being more of like a stealth kind of game because it's like, you got to kill these zombies or else Moira's going to freak out and the band's going to go off. Because even if it was like you took so much damage and then it turned red or something, you know, like Dead Space. I thought maybe they might have done something like that, but it never really came into it. It was more a story beat. And of course, you meet up with all of your characters.
01:24:16
Speaker
All of them just as forgettable as the last. Even the CEO of the damn organisation is forgettable. I'm sure there's one Stan out there who's got the shrine to him going, how dare you?
01:24:27
Speaker
He sat on a dildo for our sins. Yeah, they were pretty forgettable. But I mean, considering they were probably just as forgettable as Alex, but the only difference was Alex at least had the Wesker name. So that's the only thing that was holding out. above everyone else and literally you fight through the game and you go through all the saw traps and the first thing you meet her face to face and granted face to face behind a partition wall okay i'll admit it i looked down for a second to have a sip of tea i looked up and she was pointing a gun to her and she shot herself and i was like what did i miss what was in this tea what
01:25:06
Speaker
Were you blown away? No pun intended, but were you blown away by that when you first saw it? I think I was. I'm really trying to remember everything about her, but I think I was. was like, oh, this is a direction that we're going.
01:25:18
Speaker
I was trying to get back into it when that did happen. was like, okay, maybe we're actually getting somewhere serious, somewhere where the story is going to really ramp up, even though the game has been so far, but maybe it's going to finish really strong. And then it's just like, yeah. She should so soon. We're playing Persona 3 now.
01:25:36
Speaker
first soa go to summon westsker ah seven sexual ah seven Persona I have to spare That's why she did that She didn't even want to be in her own game don't blame her I don't blame her But that was the thing you just sat there you're like Oh did I win?
01:25:58
Speaker
is Ah, damn it. I was so confused because I was like, oh, is she going to transform? Is she, you know, we're going to get the big boss fight? No, she just kills herself. And granted, there is a reason before anybody gets up in arms. It's like, no, there's more to the plot. Like there is. That she kills herself because she thinks that by dying, she, oh, it's so stupid. By dying, she'll regenerate into her true form. A bit like Whisker and the way he kind of died. And then your favorite game, Umbrella Chronicles, came back.
01:26:29
Speaker
She comes back as like this quasi-modal-less T-virus husk and turns out it's her eye on the front of the cover, by the way, which I didn't realise I thought. At least I think it is. It looks like her eye. I'm just assuming, you know? No, we're totally experts on eyeballs over here. Oh yeah, clearly, yeah.
01:26:46
Speaker
but Next to fashion, obviously. yeah Burgundy out this season, okay? ah But how did you find her transformation is what was going to say. I was just like, at this point, I was so done. I wanted the game to be over, but I knew that there was the DLC episodes after it that I was just like, okay, can this just be done?
01:27:05
Speaker
I don't even think that I was thinking of, oh, is this actually a good boss fight or not? Or like, is this, I was just so, my soul was taken out of me by the time I had gotten to it. Fun fact, I got the bad ending because I was just so done with this whole game that I was just like, I don't even care that I got the bad ending. Well, for the DLC, or...? For ah the fourth episode, I got the bad ending. There's a bad ending?
01:27:28
Speaker
Yes, there's a bad ending! No, I mean, like, an actual bad ending, not objectively bad. If you don't give Moira the gun, if you have Claire... handle it you get the bad ending because moira doesn't get over her fear and then i genuinely i'm trying to remember what happens for natalia and barry but basically like everyone dies it's just like well wesker is taking over it's like cool great you know what i actually like this short hello She's trapped on an island. She's not like Ricardo from, you know, RE5 where he turns into a big fish monster.
01:28:05
Speaker
How is she getting off the island? least She can't exactly go in the helicopter. Yeah, I know that I was in the mindset of, oh, I'm so done. It's like, but Jules, you have the DLC episodes. I'm like, those are even worse. I don't even know else to describe the DLC episodes. What, you mean the one where you play as Moira in The Child?
01:28:23
Speaker
It's like, oh, look at this spooky, silent, hell-esque where you're through this nightmare realm. It's like, yeah, okay. but Yeah, and then Natalia's episode is just purely stealth, and I am so bad at stealth games. It's a running joke at this point that I'm bad stealth jewels, because I just get comedically bad luck when it comes to stealth.
01:28:42
Speaker
I'll be hiding, and it's like, oh, I see you. It's like, hey! How? How did you see me? I don't understand. unnecessarily died so many times in Revelations 2. I remember towards the end when there's a timer going off, I was playing as Moira and she just jumps off the side.
01:28:58
Speaker
like, I didn't even, why would she do that? i don't understand and there's like one episode i think you're playing as claire and moira during the section and i was playing as claire i was shooting was shooting the monster got to i don't remember it was like when you're in the fact not factory but like you're outside yeah yeah that section and that big final monster during that section i was running out of ammo that's the other biggest problem i have this game is the ammo i constantly ran out of ammo for an action-oriented game but i remember was playing as Claire and the monster had glitched through a container and got to Moira and killed her. And it's like, you died.
01:29:30
Speaker
What? How did I die? What do you mean? We? Who's we? Or the section with Barry and Natalia when you're pulling these switches and Natalia needs to get on these platforms.
01:29:40
Speaker
I had her on the platform. I pulled the lever. She stopped. The elevator was moving. She stopped. She went through it and it killed her. was like, this is a greatly polished game. I have to say. 10 out of 10. No notes. Yeah.
01:29:52
Speaker
but So it's little frustrating things like that where if it happens so many times, like, is this actually in a decent game? i would say it's serviceable. I haven't even dropped my hottest take where this is where everyone's going to, is you're going to to distance yourself from me.
01:30:07
Speaker
I think it's the worst Resident Evil game. Oh. no Oh, hold on. Let me get a drink of water. That was a spicy take. well I think out of all of them that I have played, which is a good amount of them, I genuinely think it's the worst Resident Evil I've played. If I think about which ones i would replay, i would replay Survivor and Outbreak. over it any day.
01:30:27
Speaker
Because at least with Survivor, it's a short and merciful like two hours and it's really funny. The storyline is pretty bad. It's funny. think it's just the blandness combined with just the frustratingness that I look at it and I'm like, I never want to play this game again. You know what, I can't really disagree with that. I mean, I would definitely put Revelations 1, I would say up there as probably some of the funner experiences. I mean, I had my fair share of moments where i was like, screw this game, gonna Have a break. Can have a cup of tea? And that's it. But for Revelations 2, again, I really struggled to get through it. Not because it was difficult, although Lord help me. difficult
01:31:08
Speaker
There was a lot of difficult
Revelations 2 Forgettability and Fashion
01:31:10
Speaker
moments, but it didn't hit the same notes as Revelations 1. Revelations 1 was unashamedly this B-movie, oh, who's the mole in the BSAA? And oh, this kind of intrigue and trying to find the three ships with the same damn name. Right, right.
01:31:26
Speaker
but in revelations 2 it was like oh we've got claire redfield oh okay and barry that's it yeah it's like we've got claire we've got barry who else um his millennial daughter a little girl who has abilities and is now in the box because now it's something we haven't talked about is the reason that natalia's around i can't even remember where she came from The reason she's there is because Alex wants to transfer her consciousness to her and live as her.
01:31:59
Speaker
I think that's what happens in the bad ending, if I'm not mistaken. She does successfully transfer her consciousness into her. Well, it happened in my ending and everybody lived, so... It doesn't matter if you give her the gun or not. She's still good. Because that is again, this is another what we will now be calling a box character. Yeah, we're going to wrong when nine drops and then they just all return. Yeah, it's just like, Clive.
01:32:23
Speaker
Natalia, what are you doing it i mean, it's been 10 years nearly. That has been 10 years, roughly. Oh my God. Revelation 2, yeah, came out in 2015. Oh God, I feel old. Same.
01:32:33
Speaker
I mean, I was just finishing uni by then. Oh God. yeah I graduated high school. Oh my God. But yeah, sorry. My midlife crisis is like... I'm joining you there.
01:32:44
Speaker
Yeah. It's like, oh my God. Yeah. At the very end, have the quote unquote happy ending where Moira finally calls Barry dad and everything. And I'm sitting there going, oh, right. Okay.
01:32:56
Speaker
let's wrap it up yeah it's like that's all finding good but quasimodo the second over there is about to just rip us a new one so gonna just get the rpg and shoot things and you have a cool moment where clear fires the guns and everything out the helicopter dar and you have to is i think you're barry i could be wrong you're running through these caves up into like a spiral running running running again chase fires like oh my god i hate this running well for like a 60 year old Oh yeah, he didn't skip leg day, that's all I'm saying. I mean, but yeah, clearly watched Jessica's fitness video, anyway, last one, I swear.
01:33:32
Speaker
So yeah, at the very end, there is quite a kind of nice wrap-up where Claire's on the phone to, think, Chris on the BSA. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, and she says, oh, Chris is away to Shanghai.
01:33:45
Speaker
Oh no! with a guy called Pierce, and again, it's that interstellar moment of, no, no, don't go. Doomed Yowie's happening right before my head. Isn't that just Resident Evil in a nutshell? Doomed Yowie.
01:34:01
Speaker
Something something seven minutes. We all know who he truly loves. We know what Wesker really meant. Chris, stop it. Oh, you're pitiful, Wesker. I wish he said that in five, but anyway. But yeah, there's a scene where they're talking and they're wrapping it up and, oh, Natalia's being adopted by Barry and that's kind of nice except for the fact she's wearing in the same dress, but who am I to judge parents? No.
01:34:24
Speaker
Clearly we're fashion experts here. Yeah, of course, yeah. Fashionistas, if you will. Next month's Fashionista month, but anyway. The rise and fall of Gucci Chanel.
01:34:35
Speaker
If they had the T-Virus, where would their direction go? That's what we're asking. Would Nemesis be dressed better if he had simply looked into Gucci fashion? I mean, trash bag or trash bag with Louis Vuitton written on it. We might never know. Someone will make that mod eventually. I think it probably will.
01:34:52
Speaker
You know, if it's not out there, would be more surprised. I mean, he's got the drip, as the cool kid say. of course, of course. Clearly I'm too old to say that. He has the riz, if you know what I mean. I'm not even going to say the other one that came to mind there. He even disgusts me. I'm like, no, I'm not saying the one that begins with an S. But anyway, yeah.
01:35:12
Speaker
You know the one. But yeah, so she's reading a book and then she's like, oh, something, something, ominous, ominous, da-da-da. And then she does the smile and it's like, oh my god, Alex succeeded in transferring her consciousness. Into the box you go.
01:35:27
Speaker
Yeah, I was gonna say, I wonder where this will go. Oh, it's never talked about again? Yeah, nowhere. It's just, here you go. Here's the box. Get comfortable. People say that 6 is the downfall of Resident Evil, but then you play Revelations 2, and it's like, hmm, maybe this was actually the downfall.
01:35:41
Speaker
Well, I mean, when did 6 come out? 2012? Yeah, so, I mean, three years apart, surely. Yeah. They should have learned their lesson is what I'm saying, but they didn't. They could have, could have, should have, would have, but they didn't. Resident Evil 6 took it and the, oh, let's make the action more bombastic and over the top, whereas this game went for the, oh, let's go for the gory body horror and things. And you're like, did you not watch the last game? Yeah, this game, honestly, I would still recommend people to play it at least once.
01:36:14
Speaker
But for me personally, I don't know there's people out there who absolutely love this game. I've seen people on Twitter. I've seen multiple people. I don't follow these people. I'll put that out there. It's on my For You page. I saw one on Twitter once because my friends know that this is my least favorite Resident Evil game. It's not my least favorite game of all time. That would be insane. But I saw a post that was like Resident Evil Revelations 2 is the best game. And it was like a whole thread of why. And most of it was just Claire glazing, which understandable, I like Claire.
01:36:43
Speaker
But if the sole reason you like Revelations 2 is because Claire is in it, I promise you there's a different Resident Evil game with the number two that has Claire in it. That's better. Yeah, Code to Ronica.
01:36:53
Speaker
Code to Ronica. I screenshotted it. I sent it to my friends. I was like, Twitter is being mean to me today. It's throwing hands. I've seen posts out there that's like, it's the most underrated. deserves a remake. like, I don't think anyone else is saying that this one deserves a remake, but each their own is what I'll say. Yeah, I'm going to be honest here.
01:37:16
Speaker
Of all the games that do deserve remakes, I think they should
Remakes Deserving Early Titles
01:37:20
Speaker
be solely focusing on the earlier ones. And obviously they have with 2, 3, and 4. That's how numbers work.
01:37:27
Speaker
I nearly forgot. I was like, 2, 3, 4? Because I know they did the remake for the first game, which is absolutely fantastic. as Absolutely. It is so good. But wonder if they'll ever go back to it and do it in a more modern sense. If they do, I don't think that'll be for decades. Right. I see all the time the discourse because I'm not really in the Resident Evil circles. I'm kind of just like a lurker on the outside. Like I participate, I cosplay, I play the games, I stream them, but I don't get into the discourse. I'm like, I'm too old for it at this point. yeah But I see what people are clamoring for for remakes. And I agree with Zero and Code Veronica X being the next ones that should be focused on. But I see people throwing five, six, and then the Revelations games out there. And I'm like, the
01:38:11
Speaker
thing that y'all want the most about those being remakes is probably just graphical ones because it's like they think that they'd fundamentally change everything about six and revelations two but i don't think that would necessarily happen if they did remake them because a lot of revelations two to me just suffers from oh episodic games were very popular at the time i mean they were kind of dying off by 2015 and resident evil's never done an episodic game since So clearly they were just following a lot of the game is, oh, this is popular within the game sphere. Let's put all of it in here. And just a lot of it doesn't work. And if they did, for some reason, for whatever reason down the line, we're like, okay, we're remaking Revelations 2. I think there would be so much to fix because it's just, it suffers from 2015 jank disease of dated gameplay that just doesn't really work anymore. And you'd have to fix so many things about it that graphical upgrade wouldn't fix.
01:39:04
Speaker
Because the thing is I do think that the game, for the most part, does look good. Both of them do look good. But at the same time, something that always baffles me is the fact that, as you said, when people say, oh, they want 5 and 6 remade, I think eventually they'll probably go to 5 in a couple of years.
01:39:22
Speaker
But, I mean, beyond the controversy that 5 courted, and we spoke about this a couple of weeks ago I think there is some severe rewrites that need to be done there before they go oh yeah this is acceptable when 20 or not 50 by the time it comes out but the thing is is that with two and three mean other than if you go into GOG.com or if you buy them in the PlayStation store now I mean they didn't always used to be accessible right and I think that in order to experience them if people are able to get the remakes that use a modern scheme and look a lot better sorry i know that's heresy but let's face it come on they have more polygons playing through survivor that was uh because that was from the playstation one Yeah, that one was hard to adjust to control wise and graphic wise. I doubt that we'll ever get a remake. It's in the same vein of Outbreak where people aren't talking about it, but it's not accessible anymore. You can't play Survivor Outbreak anywhere else besides the original hardware, you know, less than legitimate means. So I could see why those ones, like if they're somehow rose up a fan base to remake those, I would fully accept those as getting remakes. But to be fair with Revelations 1 and 2, they're not as accessible either. Yeah, I mean, it's really weird the way that they've put them on Steam. And granted, maybe they have changed it. You know, you're going to look it up while you're listening to this episode and it'll be like, such as lying, he's unaccessible. But not like you have, you know, a gold edition or whatever. They have, right oh, buy episode one, it's really cheap, it's only 79p, oh, look at this. But then you're like, where the hell's the rest of the game? Oh, you have to buy that, too bad, the sale's over. know, you're like, you don't get the full experience, so you have to make sure you're buying the gold edition or whatever, or the collection, or Claire Redfield experience, feed some child.
01:41:12
Speaker
Yeah. You're completely right, though. So I just looked it up. On Xbox, there's a collection. And ooh, Resident Evil Revelations 1 and 2 bundle is currently $8. Ooh, spicy. o space it yeah Yeah, what you doing listening to this episode? Go buy that. There you go, shilling Xbox. I think all of them are on sale. Well, most of them on sale on Steam right at least in the US. I think the Resident Evil games are on sale. So listen to the podcast, go play them, play them while listening, you know? Yeah, and Capcom, if you're listening, I will shill any game, even Revelations 2. Maybe not remember me.
01:41:46
Speaker
That was the best. Oh, God. It's Remember Me on sale. Oh, God. I never finished that. It just randomly came to my mind. i was like, oh, Remember Me. So, it is funny you mention that, right? And I know this is slightly off tangent before we finish, but I have to say this because nobody else will listen to me and my therapist won't return my calls, but...
01:42:05
Speaker
I remember hearing about this and the whole joke of it was, ooh, remember me, but no one remembers this game. hu Right. So I bought it very cheap. I bought it and I thought, you know what? I'm going to play it. Screw the haters. This looks like a fun game. And for the first couple of minutes, Yeah, it was fun. I have never been so bored at a game in my life. I got past the scene where you pretend that somebody's husband had died in the memory, which was like horrifying. And then when they kept calling with them Errorists instead of Terrorists, that's when I was like, okay, that's not funny.
01:42:37
Speaker
Because Terror doesn't have to end in Errorists. Fun fact, that game was also made by Dontnod, the people that made The First Life is Strange. What is this vein diagram?
01:42:50
Speaker
My god! The plot goes deeper. That's a rabbit hole. Oh my god. I remember I got pretty deep into that game. Do I remember a single thing? No, but I played a decent amount of it. See, that's the thing. You always think, oh, these people are being too cruel. They're just picking up this phrase from a YouTuber.
01:43:09
Speaker
Oh, you don't remember it. I think you do, and you're like, i don't remember any of this. This is just ridiculous. But that's next week's episode. That's the third time I've made that joke, but... I'm gonna run with it. Look, if Revelations 2 was just as lazy, it's a kind of closing point.
01:43:23
Speaker
I do think both of these games are worth checking out if, you know, it's on sale like it is now. Wink wink. It might not be by the time this episode comes out, mind you. But yeah, that's a big whoopsie daisy. Whoops.
01:43:36
Speaker
They're usually on sale a couple times a year. That's just how Resident Evil always is. It's like, especially during October, usually it's like, oh, it's the horror month or something, you know? Yeah. In fact, I'll tell you how I knew about the sales recently.
01:43:49
Speaker
It's because I got a notification on my phone saying, oh, now all the Resident Evil games are on sale on the App Store. And all could think was, who's playing this on an iPhone now?
01:44:00
Speaker
I thought about, because I made a joke with my friend. but I think I also posted on Twitter that I'd play every version of Resident Evil 4 because I love Resident Evil 4 Remake so much. And I love Leon a lot, especially Bingo. So I like, oh, I'll play every version because I own the Wii version and two of the PlayStation 2 versions. I have the Japanese version. i have the English version.
01:44:18
Speaker
was like, what if I actually played the mobile versions of these games too? How insane would I be to do that? I mean, yeah, I've seen up but a lot of things for it. But, I mean, my phone is... Granted, I think I got it probably during the lockdowns thought... Say, my phone is five years old!
01:44:36
Speaker
Mine is a 13 and I was like, oh yeah, I'm sure this would run and it's like, nope, 15 or older. Why? I mean, granted, I don't think everyone's going to their iPhone 7 going to the end.
01:44:48
Speaker
What if I want to play at three frames per second?
Revisiting the Revelations Series
01:44:50
Speaker
That's my prerogative. Which pixel's Leon? It's like you might never know. Oh, God. Imagine. But yeah, unfortunately, I don't think you can play this game. Or maybe you can play it. I mean, I don't know. I have an old phone.
01:45:03
Speaker
Live my dreams, Pandalorians. Live my dreams of playing this game on your iPhone. But the series as a whole, this spin-off is interesting. But again, if you want bombastic, over-the-top, episodic action and whatnot, definitely go for the first one. The first one is definitely the one that i would suggest people play.
01:45:22
Speaker
The second one... I would say yes with a but. I would say yeah, but you have to take it with a grain of salt. If you're more into survival horror, then that's probably going to be more your vibe, you know what I mean? Coerce someone to come to your house to play it with you, duct tape their hands to the controller. i mean, what?
01:45:39
Speaker
Mad Cat's controller. Yeah, improve the experience by giving them a Mad Cat's controller. Why does this have a turbo button? What does it do? Turbo pointing. Yeah. but Just flashing the flashlight on and off again. We'll be playing Alan Wake here.
01:45:57
Speaker
That's another game i have to play. say I need to play the second one. I played the first one. I liked it I just need to play the second one. I've heard nothing but good things and I keep going, oh yeah, I'll play that after Resident Evil month and I'm like, maybe.
01:46:09
Speaker
One day. but yeah, what are your final thoughts about these two games? And after you're done, i do have one more question for you. Oh boy. I highly recommend the first one. I'm not going to say don't play the second one because if you're like me, you're trying to play every Resident Evil game. I just think maybe have some friends watch you play it. Maybe have something to improve so you're not getting either bored or frustrated. That's my recommendation for Revelations 2 is I wish it was better. If there is a Revelations 3 somehow, make it a telltale episodic series.
01:46:42
Speaker
And, I don't know, bring back Carlos. That's my requirements. Well, that is exactly what i was going to ask you about Revelations 3. Because I was going to say, if you were creating a Revelations 3, what would you want in it?
01:46:56
Speaker
Where would you want it to be? What character other than Carlos? Hard mode? No Carlos. I mean, my dream Resident Evil game in general is a Jill Leon game. That's my dream game. So if it's a Revelations 3 with Jill and Leon, I would love it if they just turned it into kind of like a buddy cop comedy. Like just fully play into them playing off each other's dynamics.
01:47:21
Speaker
I don't even care if it's like a major Wesker villain. If it's like, this is Wesker's nephew being evil. I just want them to be in a central location like Revelations 1 and then just to have it be fully co-op, fully go into that co-op. Because in Revelations 1, you have a partner sometimes, but in Revelations 2, the partner's not really a full experience. I would say with Revelations 3, make it online co-op. One of you play as Jill, one of you play as Leon, and you're exploring something. It doesn't even matter to me. Let's see. Where haven't we gone? An airplane? Yeah.
01:47:51
Speaker
I mean, diton in six, they were on a plane. And five. Oh, yeah. In five. In space. There we go. In Revelations 3, Jill and Leon in outer space investigating Wesker's corpse somehow that got shot up there. No, sorry. Are you mixing up Resident Evil 5 with the end of Jojo Part 2?
01:48:11
Speaker
Is this a Jojo reference? helicopter plane same thing aviation vehicle yeah you know what jill leon's space adventure that's revelations three yeah to be honest they haven't really gone into space for obvious reasons i wonder if there's a series that's dead while in space can't think of any truly a genre unexplored oh yeah pikmin sure yeah yeah Because again, I asked my friends when we did Bioshock Month about, you know, where would you have Bioshock set? And again, I would say underwater, but i feel as if we've already already done that with Resident Evil. At least with Resident Evil 6, I think, did that. That was literally with the end of Chris's campaign. And then this year underwater, so I don't know. There's not really many places you can go. I mean, there are places you can go, but we're running out. Is there another castle? No. Does Spencer Oswald have a long lost brother? or Perhaps we go to a residence that's full of evil.
01:49:07
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No, that's just too outlandish. Come on now. ah Come on, don't be silly. They're just in an RV this time. Haunted RV. Road trip. It reminds me of those fierce Fathom games. Yes, love those games!
01:49:20
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Where it's like, don't talk while you're crapper, or else he's gonna find you! It's like, yeah, don't have the bravery for those games. Yeah, I am gonna scream, I'm gonna cry, and that's before I turn on the game.
01:49:35
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I can fully admit I've only ever been scared once and it was a jump scare in 7. 7 and 8 are the only ones that have ever made me feel actually scared because it's in the beginning of Village where you're like looking at the locker code or something and then like the zombie just comes through the window. That got me.
01:49:52
Speaker
And then in 7 when you fall through a pit and you're like climbing up again and you get jump scared. Those are the only ones that have got me. But the most I felt scared by a Resident Evil game was Resident Evil Remake, the first one. It's just the whole atmosphere. Meanwhile, Revelations made me feel anxious. Revelations 2, I was just like,
01:50:11
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Oh, that's gore. That's gore of my favorite character. ah Great. Can't wait for this game. I'm totally with you there. The first remake made me jump out my skin when I discovered that Crimson Heads were a thing. Oh, yeah. I had heard about them, but I never really understood. I thought, all right, they're just more aggressive. And nobody told me they were faster. So I walked through a door and then all of a sudden the whole herd was... And I was like, oh, my Jesus. Yeah.
01:50:42
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but I mean, with number two, I jumped with Mr. X, who was stomping around at the speed of sound. That terrified me. Even though, again, I knew about him. And the other one, of course, was seven. but When I went to go into the Baker estate and I closed the door and it was just pitch black. Yeah. it's you know in jojo where they've got the menacing menacing characters floating that's exactly what it was like beside that was menacing menacing menacing i was like i don't want to be here guys gonna be quite frank with you let's cut to brad's tax here this is a great place revelations there was only one or two times i maybe jumped away oh that's unpleasant understatement oh that's not spiffing but
01:51:22
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But the Revelations 2, I'm completely with you. There was maybe one or two moments I jumped, but I kind of thought, that's not a fair jump scare. Come on now. Where's the evil in this? I know, it's like Lord of the Rings. Where is the jump scare in the night?
01:51:37
Speaker
I never even intended to fully play the series because when I was a kid, I was scared of Luigi's Mansion. I stopped playing Luigi's Mansion at the first level. I was that terrified of games when I was a kid. The way I started it was I had it was like a charity goal of mine. I was like, OK, I'll play the first Resident Evil. And then it just snowballed from there. And then it got me into Revelations 1 and 2.
01:51:56
Speaker
Aren't you happy? It got me into Revelations and Revelations 2. Previously on Revelations 2. I mean, that was the same. As soon as I played 4, I fell in love with it, and then that spiralled into, quite frankly, doing the film under Resident Evil, as you can see. But I am totally with you there, because the game that scared me when I was younger was Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.
01:52:21
Speaker
I think I've seen clips of like people playing that game. It's pretty funny looking. So it's so funny now. But back then, Little Satsu was not all for it. Because there's a scene where, can't of remember, someone throws something into the dungeon. He's a wee prat. But anyway, so you go down and you have to retrieve this. And you go into this room and there is a troll sleeping and what you're supposed to do is you're supposed to use a levitation spell and move this cage onto it's like a pile of hay so you don't wake him and then you sneak in you grab the key you run out i didn't know this at the time so i was slamming it down and every time you slam it down the troll wakes up and that scared the bejeebus out of me honestly i couldn't get by it for ages and then one day you know plucked up my courage i said you know what i'm gonna do it i'm gonna complete this i did it i was screaming the whole time but i did it and you I was going through a whole thing of adrenaline my heart was pumping I was like oh great but finally I'm out this damn dungeon I don't have to do this again got to the top of the stairs and what's waiting for me three more trolls
01:53:23
Speaker
I turned the game off. I never played again. The game was trolling you. It literally was. mean, I stand behind older games being scarier because of the graphics. Like the thought of i can't distinctly tell what this is to me is a scarier concept than high definition. Oh, this is gross and creepy looking, but I can tell what it is.
01:53:43
Speaker
Nine's looking to be scary. I will admit that. I'm like, this is looking like ramping up the horror here. Yeah, because that's something I brought up a couple of weeks ago when my friend Luke and I, we were talking about the difference between why Mr. Rex was so scary versus, you know, subsequent stalking villains like Nemesis. And by Nemesis, I mean remake Nemesis, Louis Vuitton pinbag Nemesis. Not original OG 90s, you know, he's got the cap on backwards Nemesis.
01:54:09
Speaker
I was the 90s kid, sue me. But ah but Yeah, the reason I found Mr. Rex so scary was because he looks so human and he looks so relatable and you kind of thought, oh my god, this is terrifying.
01:54:21
Speaker
Whereas when you saw William Birkin in comparison, you know, it's like, oh look, he's got a big eyeball on him. and you're like, oh, okay. Admittedly, with the Revelations, a lot of them didn't look very humanoid and you thought, oh great, here's another monster. But then others really did. They doubled down on that design and you thought, this is actually terrifying. Like with a Rachel and her big body horror kind of thing. You're like, I don't like this anymore.
01:54:47
Speaker
There's just a certain balance between scary and gross slash goofy looking, which is like we mentioned with Derek C. Simmons. Like it goes from, okay, this is kind of scary to, okay, we're getting a little, we're getting a little crazy here. Yeah, it's like T-Rex. Did you watch Jurassic Park before this? or What's the vision, guys?
01:55:05
Speaker
First you turn Shanghai into bug people and you've got a T-Rex roaming around. What's the end game here? but We're going to get a Resident Evil cinematic universe in this eventually. I mean, that's the thing. And it baffles me, see, when I look at the animated films. Yeah. And you see how they are, again, not grounded by any means, but they all have very similar end bosses. It's either going to be the big blob with the big eye going, oh, I'm going to get you. And then they blow up at the end because, let's face it, Resident Evil came. Or it's just a variant of the tyrant. But they never went back to that.
01:55:40
Speaker
right They never went back to the T-Rex or anything. As far as I know, there could be one out there. are But yeah, it's always like a humanoid or a tyrant or whatever. It's never animalistic, I suppose. yeah Yeah, I'm totally with you. I cannot wait for how Nine is going to tackle it because it's going to be terrifying, but I'll also have to buy it day one. For sure. Yeah, no for a fact there's going to be someone, probably that person who I insulted Claire Redfield in front of. It's like, Yeah, well you called her Tobey Maguire. Anyway, Grace dies in the end.
01:56:11
Speaker
For legal reasons, I don't know if that happens. The game's not out yet as I'm recording this. So if anybody gets angry going, oh, you spoiled the game. I had that happen to me when Danganronpa V3 came out. I did a prediction video and I was 95% accurate. So everyone that watched it was like, they came back and left a comment and was like, thanks for spoiling it.
01:56:31
Speaker
I know that feeling. i promise I wasn't spoiled. or the worst one they can do where are you say this is my favorite character ga was watching i think it was money heist you know that it's the netflix show it's like the spanish one where they try to rob a bank great show by the way i think i've heard of it yeah would totally recommend it well first two seasons i'd recommend the others it jumps the shark but anyway That's another episode. But in that, there was a character i really liked and I said, oh, I really like them. They're really cool. You know, bit chaotic, but really cool. And then some idiot underneath commented, oh, don't get too attached to them. ho ho ho And I went, you mother...
01:57:09
Speaker
ah like You know that way when people say, oh don't get attached to certain characters in the series and you're like, Especially horror series. It's like, oh, don't get attached. It's like, I can't help it. I'm a human being. Does the dog die in Resident Evil?
01:57:22
Speaker
When I was going through JoJo, my friends wanted me to get into JoJo. I was like, under one condition, if you make me a whole list of where animals are getting harmed and you like tell me that is and I'll skip it. They did. They committed and they made me a whole list. So I watched JoJo because they gave me every timestamp of where it happened. Yeah. So essentially you just skipped half a part one.
01:57:42
Speaker
I put my hand in front of the screen. I was watching it subtitled. So I was reading the subtitles at the bottom while my hand's covering what's happening. Part three is really bad with the two. oh yeah. But yeah, if in Resident, I'm glad Resident Evil, it's like, okay, the zombie dogs are kind of gross looking, but I still feel bad. Yeah, I'm the same. I don't take pleasure on that. Right. Let me just admit I'm a psychopath right now.
01:58:05
Speaker
funny enough and again last side tangent as well but my partner and i were watching think it was the conjuring you know for the very first time and whenever we watch a horror film and then a cute dog appears i'm like does the dog die and then my partner was like why are you looking that up you know it's a horror film people are gonna die and it's like yeah but they know what they signed in for moving into this haunted house and whatnot this dog didn't have a say at Exactly. And then it was like, yep, that scene, skip. Okay, right, okay, back to them getting haunted and thingy. Just like, oh, okay, now I can watch it. I don't blame you. If I see an animal, I'm like, hold on, hold on, what happened?
01:58:42
Speaker
I can't wait for Revelations 3 where it's going to be like, here's the cutest dog in the world. It's going to be Leon and the wolf again from 4. And it's going to like, oh no. With the eye patch. The wolf has the eye patch. Diamond dogs. Anyway, Capcom, get on that.
01:58:58
Speaker
I'm high risk. have plenty of good ideas, obviously. And on that nugget of cold there, honestly, Jules, thank you so much for joining me in this episode. And yeah, talking about Resident Evil Revelations and Revelations 2.
01:59:12
Speaker
thank you for having me Yeah, before we wrap up, where can these amazing Pandalorians at home find your content? So every social platform I have, it's one simple name. It's Bad Games Jules everywhere. YouTube, Twitch, Twitter, Instagram, all Bad Games Jules. And yeah, I can only reinforce that. Definitely go check out Jules.
01:59:30
Speaker
Absolutely fantastic content. And if you do follow our page, then yeah, videos of yours will pop up randomly go, what Resident Evil game you playing today? Survivor outbreak. Great.
01:59:44
Speaker
but Oh yes, a second helping of Revelations 2, please. But yeah, if you would like to check out more episodes from ourselves, as well as our interview that we did three years ago, can you believe that, Jizo? Oh my, oh man.
01:59:58
Speaker
Time is a flat circle and all that. This is something I say to all my friends and things. I'm like, oh yeah, I should definitely get you back on for an episode. There is somebody that I've been saying that to for years, and I never realised the last episode was like a year or two ago. I'm like, oh no.
02:00:15
Speaker
like, oh no, need to get you back on. But yeah, definitely. well We'll be in talks after for David Cage month, of course. Oh, I'm 100% down to do that. I can talk about all of them at length. I think you are literally the only person who will agree to that. sort note it's All right. you be Yay. I will replay all of them on stream right before it, just so it's completely fresh in my mind. i am not even kidding. I will definitely talk to you.
02:00:42
Speaker
like yeah Let's try. Hell yeah. name but The things I do for this podcast. I won't be playing Heavy Rain again because I know it too well.
02:00:53
Speaker
I think I've played it six times. I've played it so many times. but I've got a compilation video. So if you go to Chatsu Plays on YouTube, we've got a... It's like over an hour long.
02:01:06
Speaker
It's just us absolutely riffing on the game. It's one of my proudest achievements as a content creator. And it's not even close, even though it hasn't got thousands of views or whatever. I do not care. It's my baby and I love it.
02:01:19
Speaker
No, I understand that feeling. It's like, I made this out of passion and love. I don't care how many people seen it. It's a game always creator could love and I am here for it. Oh, gosh. But, yeah, if you want to check out more episodes from our ourselves, as well as other episodes from Resident Evil Month, then you can check us out on our website, chatsanami.com, as well as all good podcast apps. I also want to thank our amazing Pandalorian patrons, Robotic Battle Toaster, Ghostly, and Cryptic 1991. Thank you so much for supporting the show.
02:01:48
Speaker
But if you would like access to exclusive episodes, commentary tracks, early access, as well Jules and I's full thoughts about Revelations 3, of course.
02:02:00
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ah Then, of course, for legal reasons that last one's a joke, then you can indeed check us out at our Patreon page, patreon.com forward slash chat tsunami. This podcast is, of course, a prime member of the PodPak Collective. For more information, check us out at Twitter slash x page at podpakcollect. But until next time, thank you all so, so much for joining us. Stay safe, stay awesome, and most importantly, for the love of God, before you stay hydrated, go play Revelations 1 first. You're welcome. Regretta, Revelations 2, we'll see you on the other side.