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Episode 95: Pursuing Your Passion
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In this episode we catch up with podcaster, actor, advisor and, your new best friend, Tyler Kamerman. Tyler shares what he’s learned since starting his podcast, how being good at helping people can open doors you never thought of, and the importance of parenting kids from good to great. Also, why sometimes you just need to go for it, what he’s excited about in the coming year, and what currently fuels his passion. To get in touch with Tyler go to https://tylerkamerman.com/ and find his podcast on iTunes at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pursue-your-passion/id1583654347.
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Introduction to the Uncommon Life Project
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Everyone dreams about living an uncommon life, but how we define that dream is very different for each of us. And for most, it's a lifelong pursuit. Welcome to the Uncommon Life Project podcast. We're going to introduce you to people who are living that life or enjoying the journey to get there. We're going to also give you some tools, tricks, and tips for starting or accelerating your own efforts to live an uncommon life.
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A life worth celebrating and savoring.
Meet the Hosts: Brian and Philip
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Please welcome your hosts, Brian Dewhurst and Philip Ramsey.
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Hello and welcome everybody to another episode of the Uncommon Life Project where I'm your host, Philip Ramsey. And I am Brian Dewhurst. Brian's hair looks amazing today. I wish you could see it in studio. I don't do that very often. But today is one of those
Guest Introduction: Tyler Cameraman
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days. Having a day. It's good. I can't wait to introduce our guest. It's going to be, I'm just going to introduce you to your new best friend. Okay? That's what I'm going to do, but let's have Brian talk about it because he's way sexier in his voice.
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No. I go into radio voice when I do the bio, so I got to kind of try to, you know, unify the voice. We've got the one, the only, Tyler Cameraman. He is the founder and creator of Pursue Your Passion podcast, married to a lovely woman, two kids, content creator, actor, voiceover specialist, and... Your new best friend. Your new best friend. Come on. Tyler Cameraman.
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I know, where's our stinkin' sound effects? We gotta upgrade this year. What is happening? I need to do that on my show too. The button where there's clapping in the background. Yup. Yup. Laugh track, maybe. I wonder if nobody else likes that except for us. You know, like when I hear it, I'm like, oh, what's happening? But if I was the one clicking the buttons, I'd feel like that's pretty cool.
Philip's Industry Beginnings with Tyler
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Okay, so I want to just flat out say that Tyler is the guy that I started this industry with, which is pretty sweet. We're pretty much brothers now. Yeah, yeah. Principal brothers. Principal brothers. There's not a lot of people that say- PFG, baby. PFG brothers.
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So Tyler and I started the industry at the same time and what I can tell you about Tyler's he's super uncommon and we have a fellow I would say a unified passion of trying to pull things out of people and Get their best out of people try to get them to pursue their passion. Yeah, and he started a podcast called
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Pursue your passion. Yes. I cannot wait to hear what you've learned because it's not that long of a show. It hasn't been out too long. Right. So what's like one thing that, don't answer this yet. Okay.
Exploring Childhood Dreams on 'Pursue Your Passion'
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We're going to really tease this out. Perfect. I want to know like what's been a common theme throughout because I feel like Arc podcast is a little similar, not as good as Tyler's in full disclosure. For sure.
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But I want to know like little things and I feel like Tim Ferriss kind of has the same kind of vision of us is like interviewing awesome people who are dominating at life. Basically our show if I don't need to tease it out anymore. It's just awesome. Yeah, but Tyler I want to know all about your history, your family, where you've been. How did you get here? Why are we not working together? Things like that, you know, you know,
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Full court press. Full court press. All right. So the first thing that I have to say, though, is it's interesting being on the other side of the mic, because I'm used to asking the questions and then listening. And now the questions are getting thrown at me. And I'm like, oh, right. I have to think now, not just listen and process.
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Well, starting the podcast has been awesome. And the first thing that you asked is one of the, I guess, through lines or some things that I've learned. And one of the questions that I ask is, to every guest that's been on the show, I ask, hey, what did you want to be when you grew up? Or what did seven-year-old Philip or seven-year-old Brian want to do?
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That's probably been one of the most fun questions because sometimes it's neat because you can draw a correlation from, I had one guy who was like, I wanted to be an artist and he's graphic designer and then content creator.
Monetizing Personal Passions
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So that was super, everything falls in line, exactly.
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For a lot of us, especially boys, it's like, I want to be a policeman. I want to be a fireman. Football player. Yeah, I want to be a professional football player. Yeah, exactly. And then it's a little harder to draw the correlation. But that has, I'm not actually answering your question, but that's been one of, that's probably one of my most favorite questions to ask because it also,
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I think as the show has started to evolve, and we're just in the beginning evolution stages, right? Because we're only 10 episodes in, but I can see
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One of the things that I wanna help people with is find that passion. If they've already found that and I am stealing a line from our conversation, how do you monetize that passion? But a lot of it is, I think for a lot of people, it's finding that passion because so many of us, we get out of college or we get out of high school and we go to work, right? And that's what we do, because we have to. And we have to pay our bills and then we get married and we have kids and blah, blah, blah, and the bills just keep getting higher, right? They seem to.
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Yeah, right? I don't know how. So we have to go to work. And I think one of the things that I'm figuring out through this is I want to help people like you find that passion. And a lot of times, even if
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even if what they're doing now doesn't draw correlation to that question, a lot of times what they're really passionate about does. So that's a question that's gonna stick in the podcast for a long time. It might always be there because I want people to hear what Phillip wanted to be when he was seven, what Brian wanted to be when he was seven, because that's gonna hopefully get them to start going, and sometimes it's not seven.
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Another thing that I think was one of you guys, because I've got all these sound bites in my head now, right, is we all know what we want to be, but somewhere along the line, somebody talked us out of
Reflecting on Past Decisions
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it. And so if we can go back to
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college or high school or seven to find that thing, that's one of the things. You guys talk about, and that's what I'm talking about every show. I just saw a post on that on Twitter. It was like, if you could have whatever dollar amount would make you really question yourself, like a million dollars or $10 million, whatever, or go be 18 again, what would you choose? Oh, an 18 and a heartbeat. Wow. I would not choose that at all.
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I actually, so I go back, I saw six years old and I'm like, man, I don't want to go through elementary school again, like 18. That's a tough one. But I saw the same thing and I actually probably wasted, no, not wasted because it was good thoughts. But I spent some time thinking about that because I'm
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I'm like, oh, obviously you just go back and I scrape together or I tell my dad, hey, this Amazon thing's gonna be big. Let's just put 10 grand in that and then 10 million, who cares? Yeah, boom, exactly. That's kind of the way I think I'll get it more so. But then I also- All I need is Amazon, Tesla, and Bitcoin, and I'm golden. Oh, exactly, and we're gonna be way beyond 10 million.
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But then I also thought about, like, gosh, what if I, you know, then I went way too deep down the rabbit hole. I'm like, well, what if I make this decision and then I never meet Jess, you know, or I make this decision and Ian's never born. And so then I'm like, oh, yeah, butterfly effect, ripple effect. Like, so then I kind of shifted back to the 10 million because I'm like, I could clearly live off of 10 million dollars.
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Yeah. There's a little insight into the crazy that is right here.
Brian's Childhood Dream of Baseball
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Well, it's also a little inside of Brian's crazy. I liked it. Well, I want to take this even further. Maybe we shouldn't do this. Help us all. I've been thinking about it too, because I look at Tom Brady. So I wanted to be a major league baseball player, like die hard. Yeah. I was playing at a very high level. I would say this though too.
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After that, you wanted to be a financial advisor. Pretty quickly. He came out of the womb, he wanted to be a financial advisor. It was like baseball, financial advisor. So it worked. I feel like, you know, I'm like the artist guy you mentioned who's now in graphic design. But Brady at 45, it's like, oh my gosh. And so I just hit 40 and I'm like, could I make an effort? So we have, I had an opportunity last year to do a little home run challenge with a minor league baseball team.
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And he's like, hey, you can come back this year. And I'm like, what if I could just get a two week contract? Maybe I don't play. But I was just like, there's kind of a path there if I did the work. And I was like, what about what you wanted to be as a kid, thinking about it more in the sense of like, was that really the first time you gave up on yourself?
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Yeah. And then as that window is closing like permanently, like, you know, 50, I'm not going to be able to do this. Right. Baseball thing may be at the level I could do it now if I put in the effort. Yeah. And so it was just something I've been thinking about as I hit 40 of like, you know, and then when did you start giving up on yourself?
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You know what I'm saying? Right. Two things that come to mind
Lessons from 'Chasing Failure' by Ryan Leake
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when you say that. So there's a great book, and I'm totally blanking on the name of it. But Ryan Leake is the author, and he's a public speaker. I think he's probably got a podcast, too. But God, I'm totally blanking on the name. You just keep talking. I'll work on it. But basically, not 40. No offense. I mean, I'm older than you. But in his late 20s or early 30s, he was a Division III basketball player. And then he's like, I'm going to go get a contract. And so he starts something about failure.
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Chasing failure. That's the one. And I even read it to my son because it's all his, his, his, you know, the premise is like, you have to chase, you have to try to fail, you know, like you have to push, you have to go after something that's so out there that you, you, you fail. And so, I mean, you know, he, he did the work, he, you know, and he ended up Phoenix sons, let him come for a tryout. And, and, and it's, he's got video, he's got YouTube and stuff of him, like at the end, you know, and he,
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Kind of hung with him and then you know, he didn't make the cut but you know, it's just it's it's a great book It's quick read. It's I don't know hour and a half something like that But the other thing that came to my mind that I'm trying to be more intentional about as a parent is I had great parents My mom's still living. Unfortunately, my dad's not with us anymore and they were they were great They did a great job of raising us kids. But one thing that
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I think they let me do too much of was be okay with being good when I could have been great. But I think there's a fine line there, too, because you see the crazy parents that are pushing their kids to extremes and then. Throwing things at the refs. Right. Things like that. Yeah, exactly. But I think there's also a point of, hey, I should have been a 4.0 student in the grades or whatever, but I definitely should have been 4.0. School was easy for me.
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I didn't have to do anything and I could get B pluses and A minuses, you know, and that was one of those places I'm hoping that again, not being critical of my parents, but I'm hoping that I can see that in my kids.
Parenting: Encouraging Greatness vs. Comfort
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And even with, they're both, they've both picked up the piano extremely quickly. Wow.
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not, you know, prodigy level or anything like that, but I can see my son starting to go, oh, this is hard. I'm like, yeah, but if you ever want to play Avett Brothers songs or, you know, Ben Folds songs, you got to keep, you got to do the work. So that's.
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You know, I think those are two thoughts that popped into my head with what you were saying. Yeah, we just watched the Serena Venus Williams movie with, was it King Williams, I think? Yeah, King Richard. King Richard, yeah. The border of like crazy and like the best parents. Obsessed. You know, like ever though. But it's somewhat of like the destiny of like those two girls actually had the physical
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you know prowess stamina to to play at that level he protected him in the ages that was super critical where most the other kids went haywire and yes it was really neat to to see that you know kind of tightrope walk as a parent yeah that's that's on the list to watch did you watch it with your kids or did you watch on your own no but i'm going to okay yeah yeah it's that screened it first that's a good call smart yeah
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Okay, I want to pull back because you guys will go
Tyler and Philip's Mission to Help Others
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on. I feel like we're just talking on a on a Friday, which isn't bad coffee talk with the boys anyway wanted to go back to principle. So we were advisor together. Yeah, it's like the best thing that ever happened to me at principle was Tyler Cameron everyone.
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And I remember just being very like, you and I were always unified. Like, hey, we want to help people bring out the passion in themselves because we believe they were their best asset. Now we've kind of formalized it with uncommon wealth, but you've always had this pursuit of trying to like pour into other people to then have them come out and be who they've always wanted to be and get paid for it, which I love. So tell me about your career from the time that you and I departed. So that was the hardest part about me leaving principal was
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leaving Tyler Cameron. But then I did, and then I felt like our two paths started kind of going in a different way. And even today, you're still advising people financially, which I think is awesome. So I'll have you talk about that. Yeah, yeah. So I think that that's.
Tyler's Journey into Financial Services
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at the heart of what drew me to financial services. My, without going too far back, when my dad got sick, it was a rare neurological disease. His short-term memory went first, his long-term memory was fine, and he kind of had things in different places. You know, he lived in a small town, he worked at a bank, but he knew everybody, right?
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They were the typical Midwest couple that dad did everything with finances. Mom knew nothing about what was going on. But I took the time and was able to because dad was still there. If he would have had a heart attack and been gone, it would have been a mess. Because it was like, hey dad, where's the loan for this piece of land is here. Oh, this investment is here, blah, blah, blah.
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But through the course of a week of going to him, going to the next person, I was able to kind of put that all together. And then we had a meeting with one of their financial advisors. And after dad passed away, she was like, hey, have you ever thought about doing this? And I'm like, no. Your mom or the other advisor? No, the advisor was like, hey, have you ever thought about doing this? And I'm like, no, I just had my buddy help me allocate my 401k. I don't know anything about this stuff. And she was like, yeah.
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Yeah, but you do because you have a passion for helping people figure things out. And I'm like, Oh, okay. Totally blew that off, you know, and then like went back to working for, you know, fell back into, you know, building products and then, uh, you know, cut to a year and a half later and meet, uh, Mike and, you know, we're,
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And I basically said the same thing to him. Like, I don't know anything about this stuff. I've never tried to be, you know, no finances. And, you know, he said, you have a passion for helping other people and for building relationships with people. That's the key. Right. And I can teach you the rest of this stuff. And so, you know, for me, it's...
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It's always been about trying to find how to help them improve. To be frank, it's a little harder working on the private banking side of things because most of my clients are super successful already. Now there's always, if they're willing to be coached, there's always a place where I can still help them. But I will say I probably got more of that altruistic
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Not probably. I got more of that altruistic value when I was working at Principal because I was helping more people who really wanted the help. And I will say that's the question you asked a few minutes ago.
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One of the things that I'm figuring out by, by, by doing this podcast is that it's rekindled that passion for helping other people, you know, 100% like re-listening to the programs, talking to other people who are passionate about this. It's like, okay, where can, where can I, uh, what can I be doing differently that, uh, that that will.
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bring out the good and people will help them to see because you know you guys talk about it too it's it's not always hey quit quit your day job you know in fact a lot of times it's not um and and the guy that i just had coffee with before this it was like hey
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A lot of times the passion is outside of that nine to five. And a lot of times you're never going to quit that nine to five, or sometimes you're not gonna quit that nine to five. But if that nine to five isn't your passion, let's find you something that is, because that makes you a lot happier at that nine to five job.
Finding Passion Outside the Day Job
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It's fueling what you're excited about. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. We just had this conversation with another client, and he was talking about his mother-in-law.
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And she wants to retire, but like there's a little bit of a chasm there. You know what I mean? Maybe not necessarily financially, but like I don't, I'm not done done, but I don't know what to do. So anyway, she's really good at like basically seamstress stuff. And she's done all this custom work for him and updating some clothes. And he's just like, what, you could totally do this and make 10, 20 grand a year and be done. And then have this.
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The problem is you won't make 10 to 20 grand a year. You'll make like 70 to 90. Does that make sense? You've got to be careful, because sometimes what you're passionate about, you can almost trap yourself into something like, I just want to do this part time. Well, you're that good. I think a lot of people, I guess the point I was trying to make, he
Taking Steps Towards Passions
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was talking about it. They've been talking about this for five years. Half a decade has gone by, and it's like, what baby steps could they have taken to maybe formalize this a little bit more than onesie twosie?
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Cleaner launch out of you know the nine-to-five to this and she is in that place of passion full-time Yeah well and I love the I love that you said baby steps because that makes me think of something else back to that kind of original question like One of the biggest takeaways from a couple of the people is just go do it
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I think too many times we're told, oh, you got to think things out. You have to have a plan. You have to do this. And it's like, no, that's true. But sometimes, especially when it comes to chasing after a passion, you just got to go after it and then plan later. And so there's this, for some people, it's going to be the baby steps. And that triggered that. For some people, it's like me, for example.
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I finished the West Des Moines Leadership Academy and from stage, they asked us, hey, what were your key takeaways from the program and how are you gonna utilize this going forward? And a lot of the people were like, oh, this is what I'm gonna do within the company. And I'm like, hey, what I realized is that I still at 43 worry too much about what other people think of me.
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So I'm going to work on that. And I said, my key takeaways are within three months, I'm going to start a podcast. Within a year, I'm going to book my first public speaking gig. And within two years, I'm going to write a book. I missed the podcast by one month. I still have still checking it off, though. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, that one's definitely done and it's and it's rolling. I have until June to book a public speaking gig.
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So listeners, if you need a paid speaker, you know, let's put a quick blurb out there. Paid sponsor. Yeah, exactly. But I just needed to jump in. Now that the podcast is up and rolling, we're getting some listeners, which is fun. Yeah, it's fun. And now I'm like, OK, so this is actually working. So now I'm at the spot where it's like, hey,
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Let's start doing, sorry, I backed away from the mic. Let's start doing some planning.
Tyler's Public Speaking Goals
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And so for me, it was the just do it and then plan back to your baby steps comment for other people that are wired differently than me. Maybe it's way too scary, even if the just do it isn't that big of a thing, but what are those baby steps that you can be taking to start making this happen?
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Yeah, so I want to go back and one, welcome to your new best friend, Tyler Cameraman. And then two, if you were going to speak at some place, what would you want to talk about? You got to give our listeners something to grab onto. What would you talk about? I think right now it would be about pursuing your passion, which I know that's super broad.
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I also, you know, add a little color to the conversation. Right after college, I moved out to Los Angeles to try to pursue, you know, the film and television industry, which, you know, hey, there's lots of people that do that. But it took...
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I mean, it took some stones, you know, I mean, small town Iowa kid, like, I'm just jumping into the second biggest city in the US. And, you know, I think my experiences, just mine alone, but even just the conversations that I've had through the beginning of this this podcast.
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I could put together a pretty compelling either intro to your event. I think at this point I'm probably still the hype man. I'm not a keynote just yet. It's interesting though because when you start breaking that down and the conversations that we're having, one thing that
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I posted about on Facebook last week was just at the beginning
Networking: Building Genuine Relationships
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of last year. I was the heaviest that I'd been in my life and I set a goal to lose 40 pounds and guess what? I lost 30. I didn't hit my goal, but I'm back to feeling healthy. I mean, you know, and I think another thing that I could, that I could talk about is, is routines, you know, how having a morning routine is, is super important. You know, what couldn't you talk about Tyler cameraman fricking love you.
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What would, I want to know this from Brian just cause this is fun. What would you speak about Brian? I know what I would speak about. So I'll give you a second to think. Mine would be networking, how important networking is and how much I hate networking. Like if you asked me to go to a network event, I'm like hard pass.
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but how powerful networking has been in my life when done the uncommon way, dare I say it. But that would be what I would say of just how important relationships are, the right relationships that are cultivated in a way that is intriguing and inviting. And then people love to help people.
00:22:15
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Yes. It's crazy. And if you're humble enough to be like, Hey, this is who I am. This is what I'm good at. This is what I'm not good at. I'm going to be really honest, you know? And that was kind of my story of how ultimately I got to this career. Uh, but I was without a job for a year and I didn't apply for one job.
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not one. And I kept praying like, God, give me one door to open. I don't need three. I'm not that smart, but I need one. And I did that by just networking with people that I knew about or I've worked with in the past and then let them vouch for me to get me in front of somebody else. And like, it was such a joy.
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for me. Anyway, that's what I'd speak about. I could get on my soapbox, but now it's Brian's turn. What are we speaking about? Oh man. Pitching professional pitching.
Brian's Interest in Bitcoin
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I have outlined a book on pitching and I bought the website, but, and I want to do a podcast. Oh dear. But, uh, more like, you know, like just six people in one day and that would be not like ongoing. Um, so good.
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I would probably speak about the importance. I think Bitcoin is like one of the most important things second to Jesus in the world. And I don't think people, I think a lot of people are approaching Bitcoin of like, how much money can I make or I'm going to lose money? And it's not about that. It's about we need to separate the state and money. These politicians are drunk on our money and it needs to end. And Bitcoin to me,
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is the first solution, real solution we've had in the last hundred years. And it's more about that than it is about how much money you can make in preserving the sovereignty in the US. So anyways, I'll get there. I like it. I'm like, oh, right. Yeah. You can see the difference between Philip and Brian.
00:23:56
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Tyler's on my camp. Okay. I probably lean a little, where I'm sitting on the table, I probably lean a little more right than left, but that's also very, I love that thought because right now I, well, my, my not to go down the crypto path too far, but I'm still on the, how much can I make from it?
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But I've read enough to begin to understand how it can change things. So I think that that would be, I'd sit and listen to that speech. I'm still on, my wife is bigger than crypto, so it's like God and then my wife. Oh, sure. I mean, maybe Brian's different. I don't know, it seems like he is.
00:24:33
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Sometimes you just gotta call it out here at the host bill. I just love it. We're great. He didn't really mean that. Megan, you're totally number two.
Understanding Strengths and Genuine Connections
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On the networking thing, I am not a big fan of networking events, but I love the idea of connecting people.
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You know, um, the, Hey, uh, you know, this person does this and this person does this. If I can put them together, I love that. I mean, that's one of my favorite things to do. Why do you think you hate networking events? I'll tell you why I do it, but I want you first. So I think because.
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Too many of the people that go to networking events, all they do is go to networking events and they have a checklist of things that they're going to ask you or tell you every time they come up and talk to you. They all want something from you. Exactly. I don't have any time for that. That's the way that most networking books, seminars, blah, blah, blahs are set up, is you have to have an agenda if you're gonna network well. I understand that I am much more comfortable talking to people than a lot of people are. I understand that that's a talent of mine that I was
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blessed with but that I've also improved upon myself so I get that I'm more comfortable in that situation than most people but for me networking is about getting to know you understanding what your strengths and talents are and then that's how I can promote you to other people and hopefully how you can promote me to other people not by immediately asking you know
00:26:03
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Now I'm by walking away from that conversation by saying, Oh, sweet. I've got this meeting set up because I asked for this. Yeah. I don't know if that makes sense. Yeah. It's really off putting to me. Sorry, but it's just, that's what, that's where we're at. Yeah. Okay. So Tyler cameraman, what questions can we ask you? Cause I feel like you're a wealth of knowledge and I just like want to pull it all out. Maybe we do seven more shows with you. Okay. Only you. Yeah. Every Friday, same time, same place.
00:26:27
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I want to say this, who out of all your guests you've interviewed up to this point has been your like, aha moment or like, not favorite, but like the thing that struck you the most, because I would say in every podcast that Brian and I have, we always are like, I needed to hear that or, you know, every time. Yeah.
00:26:47
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That's a really hard question. So I will say one of my first aha moments. How about that? I might give you more. I might give you more than one. Basically what I'm asking is like, all your guests were hanging off a cliff. Who would you say first? I'm totally kidding. Well, clearly Brian Newhurst and Philip Ramsey. We have it on the show. We have the answer that way.
00:27:09
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My first big aha moment was in the very first episode, and I was interviewing Adam Carroll, who I know you guys know as well, and I asked him the seven-year-old question that I've already, you know, what do you want to be when you grow up? And he talked about how he had a, he said an entertainer, and he had a comedy routine that he had memorized, that he would perform for his family, an extended family as well. And he said, you know, I think that's probably still
00:27:39
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That drives me. And I just went, oh my gosh, I've been chasing this acting thing. And I still, don't get me wrong, if a script gets laid in front of me, I will keep doing the podcast, but sorry Bank of the West, I'm out.
00:27:56
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Um, but, but it made me realize that I can, I can utilize a podcast. I can utilize a public speaking platform to fulfill that passion in me to, to entertain people. And I'm like, yes, yes. So that w that was huge. Um, I would say just, uh, um,
00:28:17
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each one of my episodes there's been there's been something which has been fantastic and uh um one thing that i know i've grown through is i listened to the first episode and i listened to my last one and i'm getting better at interviewing people which is fun to hear that improving as well you know it's a challenge it's a learning curve for sure well because you know adam straight up told me after the first episode like hey i
00:28:40
Speaker
He said, don't be afraid to drill down. You can have your set of questions, but don't feel like you need to ask them all. And he said, by the way, you were natural enough that it didn't seem like you had a list. You don't have to reshoot this. But I know you had a list. And the last episode that we did, I'm like, it's just so much more fluid. Fluid, yeah. But I will say, feedback-wise, and I'm not just saluting the room, but I got a lot of great feedback
Aligning Podcast Goals with Helping Others
00:29:05
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on ours. And I think it was because we really
00:29:09
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You said at the beginning of the show, your guys' goal, even though you're financial planners, is really almost 100% lockstep with mine. And that is to help people find their passion and then to get them to go after it. In any capacity. Whatever that capacity is. Exactly. Not necessarily including your job, but just making it more concrete.
00:29:28
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Yep, and so I think that that was, it was awesome because it was just so aligned with the purpose of the show. And they don't all have to be. I mean, I love talking with people that are passionate about what they're doing and maybe helping other people isn't their number one thing. Like that's fine too, but our conversation was really awesome. It's probably just, it probably feels to our listeners like we just have another uncommon wealth
00:29:55
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person with us. Honestly, like it's probably like, well, what are we talking about? But like, this is really good stuff. I would love to somehow pool questions of all of our listeners and get in a room and just like throw them on the board. Like here's a question and have us all answer. I think to check off your thing, we should just do an event together and then you could speak, we could speak. You guys could throw me like five bucks and then I'm paid. Boom. That's what we do.
00:30:20
Speaker
Check these off. Yeah, we've done some events like that in the past and just getting groups together and just talk real quick, 20 minutes each and then open it up. What's fascinating to me is this whole, what's your risk tolerance? That has always been, two words, risk tolerance, have always been,
00:30:39
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in like money in the market. What is your risk tolerance? And that's something at Uncommon Wealth that we've tried to pull off and it's like, no, it's not about your money in the market, but what is you as an individual, if you were gonna bet on yourself, what is that risk tolerance?
00:30:54
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And the people that have very, very high risk tolerance, almost speculative, if we will, can quit their job tomorrow and go all in. But that to me is not really what we see the most. It's what we've seen in you of like, I'm gonna start something and I'm gonna have my...
00:31:10
Speaker
current job help me facilitate what I'm passionate about and see if I can start getting traction. And once they do, it's really exciting. And their day job, like you said earlier in the show, gets way more exciting because it's fueling what you're truly passionate about. And that to me is smart. And you might have a different risk tolerance than your spouse.
00:31:31
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And if you do, you've got to be very careful to be going the slower risk tolerance of the two of you now that you guys are yoked together. You don't want to be pulling that cart by yourself. Right. I'll tell you that right now. So that's something that I would say in the past almost 100 episodes, can I get a whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. Uh-huh. Thank you. That's what I've found is your spouse on board. If you're not, we got a problem. Houston. We had that call this week. So I had a call like that this week.
00:31:59
Speaker
I think I know different pages I think I know that and so a lot of it is almost counseling like let's talk about it let's put a plan together in that the person that has a lower risk tolerance is comfortable with the checks and balances that are laid out to say hey if this hasn't been achieved by this time we might be off track but if it has been achieved maybe we have something that can be pursued right anyway
00:32:23
Speaker
Yeah. That's good. I think that's a huge point. And risk tolerance has changed. Good point. I think my risk tolerance was huge when I moved out to Los Angeles. I mean, granted, I didn't go out and do the waiting tables thing. I had a job selling windows and doors for Pella. So I had that. But I will say that I am confident in myself. But there was a certain level of my confidence that got broke a little bit
00:32:52
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at principle, and not anything that principle did. I probably didn't...
00:32:58
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I didn't do some things that I should have done, but at the end of the day, I walked away from there in debt. And so I bet on myself and it didn't work. And so that affects your risk tolerance as well. And so I had to build that back up. And as we start talking about looking at these other opportunities, I can tell
00:33:22
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I've built my risk tolerance back up and justice is still pretty low. Yeah,
Discussing Risk Tolerance in Partnerships
00:33:28
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absolutely. And I respect that. And what you said is 100% accurate. You've got to be on the same page before you take the next big step. Mitch Matthews talks about your leap number.
00:33:42
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And I wouldn't care. I don't know what the episode is. I could find it pretty easily, but he does a, he does a podcast on your leap number that to your point, I think you would, it would be worth listening to because he talks about what is that number that you're both comfortable with.
00:33:58
Speaker
and obviously there's a lot more that goes into it because it's a 45 minute podcast or whatever. It's funny that he uses that word because we always say like, oh you're jumping off the bridge when you're going uncommon. Your parachute will open but it's scary as ever and we always talk about that analogy and I've never truly to this day have somebody jump off the proverbial bridge.
00:34:16
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and not be happy they did it. Right. And their parachute opened, and what we always say is like, you can always land on another bridge, like. Yeah. Your bridge will, your parachute will open. Yeah. People will surround you, and like, back to what I said, people love to help people. Yeah. Um, so, Brian, talk to me. What's going on? Well, I just want to know what, you know, it's early 2022, shooting this, and what, what are you looking forward to in the new year? We're 21 days in. It's been a little bit of a hot mess, but,
00:34:45
Speaker
Yeah. What I think he said is like, you can work here anytime you want, but on commonwealth partners, I don't know if you heard that, but I heard it. Sorry. Awesome. That's good. Hopefully my boss is listening. No, no, I'm totally kidding. He's totally joking. Hey, where do I sign?
00:35:02
Speaker
No, so what I am, what I'm excited about in 2022 is continuing to do what I'm doing with the podcast, you know, and actually I'm toying
Tyler's Goals for 2022
00:35:15
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right now. Are you guys weekly or are you every other week? No, we're every other week. Okay, except for that one month.
00:35:19
Speaker
That one month had a little hiatus. We had a little glitch. We're back. Number one thing not to do, Tyler, is hiatus. And so that's where I'm towing right now. Can I handle weekly? Is there a benefit in going weekly? Right now, I've got a bunch lined up. So I'm like, yeah, let's go weekly. But then you hit a drought, and you're like,
00:35:39
Speaker
What do I do now? We've talked about it a lot, but it's a big commitment. And I think that because of that, unless someone can show me like, hey, if you go weekly, you get this many more listeners, I'll probably stick with the biweekly. But that's one of the things that I'm looking at. And then how do I make that step into promoting myself as a public speaker? And how do I start booking those gigs? Not toying with, I'm exploring
00:36:06
Speaker
what it would look like to do some coaching as well, you know, and, and, uh, outside of, you know, financial coaching, but you know, sitting down and saying, Hey, how do we, how do we put, you know, how do we put together a plan to, to, you know, to, to do that? So, um, but then outside of that, I want to continue to focus on, um, promoting myself and the voiceover and the acting world as well. You know, um, I do have, you know, I have local agents for that. And, um, I saw you on a commercial the other day, actually you did. Yes.
00:36:37
Speaker
What was it for? Was it Mediacom? Am I out of my mind? I haven't done a Mediacom in quite a while, but they could have repurposed something. The crappy part about shooting non-union is they're like, hey, we really like this commercial. Let's throw it out there again. Whereas under SAG rules, then they have to pay you for. I did a one-hour optical commercial. And the guys did a great job. There's a couple guys that I knew. One that was a friend and one that I got to know. But their whole premise was, hey, we're going to shoot
00:37:06
Speaker
Look, you can tell the difference between local commercials and like actually produced commercials. And the difference real quick sidebar is the ones that you're like, Oh my gosh, wow. That's typically the television station just produces it. And like, Hey, you buy ads from us, we'll produce the commercial for nothing or for 500 bucks. And then you've got these larger, I mean, not
00:37:27
Speaker
Universal, but the studios here and I'm kind of doing Eric No, I mean their studios but the guys that are gonna charge a good chunk of change to do a commercial Well, these two guys had this idea like hey, we're gonna split the difference. We're gonna shoot good quality stuff. We're gonna use bare-bones Cruise and then we can make money and and and shoot good commercials. Anyway, I digress we shot this one-hour optical commercial It's a funny commercial. It was great
00:37:52
Speaker
I got paid next to nothing for it, because they're like, hey, we'll do more of this. We'll pay you more. And I'm not mad at those guys at all. I'm not mad at one hour optical. Not better at all. No, really, I'm not. It's just funny that because we do this non-union, I mean, I saw that one hour optical commercial run for, like,
00:38:07
Speaker
almost 10 years. I mean, they ran it for like eight years. And I think I got a hundred bucks. You know, so value that value. Exactly. Good for her. I mean, it's a good commercial. It's an, and, uh, but yeah, so that, that, uh, I digress.
00:38:23
Speaker
That's something that I try to, every night there's a website that has postings, casting notices from across the country. So I will get on there and submit my headshot and resume. I just read a script last week for a film that's shooting in Kansas City in May.
00:38:43
Speaker
cool little sidebar there. I auditioned. The guy responded, said, hey, I really like it. You're in our good pile is what he called it. So I'm not a casting director. He's a writer and a producer. But he's like, who is your reader? And does she act? And I'm like, yeah, because my wife just read with me. And so then Jess got
00:39:02
Speaker
Audition and then you know he responded and like hey, can you guys act together on screen? Are you guys gonna fight like cats and dogs if you're on set? I'm like no we can totally work together only make out what so yeah I mean, it's it's supporting roles, but it's you know a lot of times with lower budget like small Local stuff like I always asked to see the script because I'm like is this just a heaping pile of garbage, you know Because if I'm gonna work for you know peanuts next I want at least be in a cool project this script is
00:39:32
Speaker
Awesome. I was like, yes, I will totally take a small supporting role in this movie just to be a part of it. So anyway, I'm, I'm, uh, rambling, but that, uh, I would, I'm staying focused on, you know, chasing the acting and the, and the voiceover stuff as well. And so, yeah, that's, that's what I'm excited about in 2022. Very good. And then quickly. So what fuels your passion now? Like, where do you work that helps you provide for your family to then do what you want to do? Where do you work now?
00:40:01
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Yeah,
Balancing Finance Career with Passion Projects
00:40:02
Speaker
awesome. I am a senior private client advisor at Bank of the West. Sounds amazing. It is amazing. So really, it's private banking. And when I introduce myself, I say private banker, because a lot of times people hear private client advisor, and they're like, oh, no, we have a financial advisor. We already worked with Brian and Philip. But I'm like, no, hang on. What I am actually more focused on is the banking side of things. Dude, it's very important to have a good banker that knows what they're doing.
00:40:30
Speaker
Yeah. By the way. It is. So now I also am still securities licensed and I do, when we start talking about the planning, when we start talking about investments, I'm a part of that conversation, but I bring a financial advisor to the table. So my focus is more on, hey, do we have you in the right products? Do we have the right checking money market for you? If you're looking at a mortgage or a home equity line of credit, you get some discounts for being a part of our private banking group.
00:40:59
Speaker
I mean, that's what I do now. And so it's a great spot because I...
00:41:07
Speaker
I'm learning more about banking and learning more about lending while still staying active in that planning space and at least keeping my finger on the pulse of how that, you know, what changes are happening in that industry other than crypto. Cause you know, nobody, nobody can do that unless they have an RIA. That's true. It's funny. Cause we always tell ourselves or tell some of our clients, like I feel like we're more bankers than financial advisors. Um, so that could really help you in the future. That's really good. Uh,
00:41:34
Speaker
So, okay, what are we gonna do? Close this thing up, land the plane. What are we gonna talk about? Brian Dewhurst, everyone.
Dream Guest: Bob Goff on the Podcast
00:41:40
Speaker
What's the one guest you wanna get on your podcast? Oh, Bob Goff. That's a great question. I just emailed him to be in our 100th episode. Oh my goodness. I don't even need to think about that. Like, Bob Goff. I think we actually talked a little bit about him when you guys were on my show, but we got, everybody does for kids.
00:41:59
Speaker
So he's got everybody who does for kids and he's also got everybody all, sorry, love does. Love does. Sorry, I'm combining two book titles. Oh, okay. Love just come to ours, not his. Yeah. Go to theirs first because they're on episode a hundredth and then- No milestone here. Right. Yeah, so love does for kids is phenomenal. I forget how old your kids are, but my kids are just eating it up and I love, we're reading it after,
00:42:24
Speaker
After dinner and I love it because it's all the stories from love does I'm like, oh, oh and then like good one I'm like flipping ahead to see if this stories in there and like it's the guy is just awesome like III a friend of mine is actually going out to his writing workshop. Okay in February or something with Kimberly Stewart. She's local sweet They're they're starting to do these writing workshops together. So our friend stuff is going out there I'm like, oh you're gonna actually meet him and
00:42:51
Speaker
And I'm like, oh yeah, there's like 200 people in the room, right? And she's like, no, I think they cap it at 15. I'm like, oh, you're gonna actually meet him. Like, this is awesome. Yeah, so yeah, he would definitely be, you know, at the top of my list. What would be your,
00:43:08
Speaker
Like, what would be the question you'd be most excited to ask him? Or is that too much? Is that too deep? Are we going too big down the rabbit hole, Adam Carroll? Are we? I don't know. Wow.
00:43:23
Speaker
You know, I would love to hear what he wanted to be when he grew up. Like that's, I said, that's probably my favorite question that I asked my guests. And I think that would be, um, you know, I think that would be actually, you know, another fun one would be for him, but he would probably take like two hours to answer it is, uh, you know, what goal or what dream haven't you reached yet? Because you think about everything that that guy has done. It would be, I would be nuts to know what's still kicking around in his brain that he hasn't accomplished yet. Right.
00:43:52
Speaker
That's a good one. For sure. Yeah, I'd ask him, what does burnout look like for you? Honestly, is it sustainable on where you're at? And have you ever hit that point where Sweet Maria was like, tapped out over here? Yeah, exactly. You're done, dude. You're interesting to see. Obviously, probably not what he would want to be talking about on our podcast, but it would be something to... And you know I'd have to go somewhat uncommon, so I'd have to do something different. You two are all wired similarly to him.
00:44:19
Speaker
Yeah, but you've got to find a hook to get him too, right? Because he's got to get asked to be on 75 podcasts every day. Right. Yeah. Right. That's good.
00:44:29
Speaker
Tyler, you're amazing. Thanks for being introduced to your new best friend, Tyler Cameraman. We did it. I'm excited for just your show and your continued success to pour into other people because it is powerful to be able to see people's passion and then see it realized. I don't know if there's anything better like seeing people like see their dreams come true and actually see it not being monetized, but almost being validated by other people that they're impacting.
00:44:58
Speaker
It's like, what do we do? This is the best thing ever. And so I would say that I feel like the wealthiest person in the world because I get to impact other people every day to help them achieve something, to help them impact more people. Now, maybe not financially the wealthiest, but I feel like I'm the most wealthy because I get to see and have interactions that are impactful.
00:45:20
Speaker
That's huge. Yeah, thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you guys. Keep going. Great hanging with you. Yeah, we'll do it again. All right. You've been listening to the UncomiLife project. I've been your host, Philip Ramsey. I'm Brian Dewhurst. Until next time, go be uncommon. Thanks for listening. Thanks, everybody.
00:45:35
Speaker
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