Introduction to O Brother News
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Hello, you're listening to O Brother News. I'm Gabe.
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James
I'm James, and we are brothers.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yes, we are. This week, we have so much to talk about.
Controversial Executive Orders Discussion
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
ah As Tim Miller put it, it is Executive Bukaki.
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James
Executive Order Bukaki.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Executive Order Bukaki. Yes, I am. Sorry, I stand corrected. um
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James
Defacing the Constitution.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Indeed. ah So a brief overview of what we're going to talk about today. ah ah New health policies, pardons, provoking secret service protections, taking down .gov websites, um the Doge, i borrowing people from government agencies, Elon's Nazi salute, ah border and immigration stuff, the Gulf of America, the Trump meme coin,
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Uh, I don't know why I said it that way and a hundred K watches, uh, birthright citizenship, massive loophole. And we're all women. You want to start with, we're all women.
00:01:13
James
Yes, because, uh, you know, I think we should all, I don't know if you can hear this on the radio. I play it, but, um, um did that record, by the way, ah noise canceling.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I didn't hear anything.
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James
That's been the little intro to Shania Twain, man. I feel like a woman but because based on the new executive order, we are all women. So
Gender and Healthcare Policy Impacts
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James
Um, new executive order, I don't have the exact text, I should probably have pulled that up beforehand. But ah they define man and woman based on what the gender is at the time of conception. And for anybody who knows biology, ah reproductive biology, especially everything starts as a woman, everything starts the female male,
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James
genitalia does not grow for weeks after conception, if it ever does. It either does or it doesn't. But at conception, we are all women.
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James
So we are all women. Everybody's a woman now. So I don't care what they say about section F about gender ideology, because everybody is a woman.
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James
Everybody's a woman now, according to Donald Trump, we're all women. So you go girls.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
It's just so hilarious that like that right after they passed the no trans athletes law, they immediately made all of the men trans athletes.
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James
yeah yeah section D and section E female means a person belonging at conception to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell male means a person belonging at conception to the sex that produces a small reproductive cell at conception and no such thing we're all women anyway yes these people are dumb they have no sense i'm really hoping that some trans women go to compete against some well, women, women, I guess, whatever you wanna call it, and invoke Trump's executive order that says at conception, I was a woman, so therefore I am a woman, and I hope that all the trans women go get their, but try to petition to have their birth certificates changed based on that executive order. That's all, yeah.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
That would be great.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Um, okay.
00:03:50
James
Legally, I don't know man. I imagine that I imagine that one would probably pass muster with the Supreme Court though so there's a lot of things that they've done that will and Some things that won't even with the 6-3 Supreme Court won't won't stand But that one might who knows it's worded really badly though um That was that one or the next one yeah general health
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
We all talk about health, healthcare. care So, a couple of things with healthcare. One, he repealed some Biden directives um that made it easier to enroll in Medicaid and get insurance under the Affordable Care Act. um However, it does not actually repeal the $35 a month cap on insulin or Medicare's $2,000 annual out of pocket cap on prescription drugs.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
or Medicare's ability to negotiate drug pricing because those are enforced by federal statutes passed by Congress. um Slightly better than I thought. We did, however, withdraw from the World Health Organization. So now it's just us and Lichtenstein who aren't part of the World Health Organization. I'm sure that'll go great. um And then there's a gag order on all federal health agencies. They can't tweet or provide any information. They can't do talks or publish papers. ah They can no press releases, no interviews, like literally no information. Anything that they do want to say or release has to go through a presidential appointee. if I don't even know if that person has been appointed yet.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I'm sure that won't slow things down. Uh, I'm sure it won't, won't matter. You know, this H five in one bird flu with like a super high mortality rate that just killed somebody in Louisiana.
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James
and touch but but even It's not as bad as COVID. people Most people have some level of immunity to it, though. It's actually better.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
No, no, no. So there's, so there's two, there's two types.
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James
I'm trying to know, right?
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
So, well, it's here in America. It's an American in Canada. There was one person who died in Vancouver and
Public Health Concerns and Responses
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
there was one person who died in Louisiana.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
And so the normal way that like the most likely way that people are getting this is that a bird infected to cow. And then the people got it from a cow. Uh, but the other way you can get it is if you get it directly from a bird and if you get it from directly from a bird, it has a 53% mortality rate.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah. Basically like. your immune system goes crazy and like destroys your lungs, something like that.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
So it's real bad. um But it's not human to human transmissible yet, but every infection gives it a chance to mutate.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
So, you know, avoid the sick birds
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James
Well, I'm sure, I'm sure the Trump administration, I'm sure the Trump administration, if faced with a, you know, really high mortality, a pandemic with a high mortality rate, I am sure that they would do the right
Federal Employee Reclassification Debate
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James
thing. I don't see, I don't think we have any evidence to suggest that Trump would be bad with a pandemic.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
They'll use the Comstock deck to get us all producing massive amounts of bleach and needles to inject it into our veins to clean us out.
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James
Yeah. Now but there's actually one thing I've forgotten. Maybe I should have mentioned this before we started, but there was one thing that was not on the agenda. That is probably the, probably in my mind, the biggest deal of all of the executive orders. The thing that got so little attention last time around or before the election. And it's probably the biggest threat to democracy and our government as a whole, which was one of the other executive orders, which is a reinstated schedule F.
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James
It's the one that says every federal employee is no longer a federal employee, just like a normal everyday American working at the job. you know Nope, they are all political appointees. So every single person with a job that's in any way you know a federal government job, they all serve at the whim of Donald Trump. So he could just up and fire everybody at the IRS, every little person, and replace them all with his criminal friends.
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James
could Get rid of every single person who's, you know, with the EPA and just replace them all with, ah you know, Exxon employees, you know, whatever. It doesn't matter. Every federal employee by the stroke of a pen has been labeled a political appointee that can be fired like that.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
What's the name of the um the Republican handbook for blah blah blah that we're totally not doing?
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Project 2025.
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James
They said they were doing it. As soon as he won the election, like within 24 hours, I said, I think it's okay to say that we're actually doing it I mean, every, yeah, it was project 2025, man.
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James
Y'all didn't, y'all had plenty of time to read it, but no one did. But yeah, it's it's here. Now it's schedule F, so it's back now.
Critique of Government Efficiency and Corruption
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James
They're suing, of course, you know, all the government unions and other people are suing.
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James
But yeah, it's kind of like a throwback to the pre Jefferson days when they just had to go to the Victor, go the spoils, and they get to put all their friends and buddies and everything. but Back then, the government was a lot smaller than it is now. It oversaw less people, less functions. It's much bigger now. Yeah, anyway.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I mean, it's a lot of like really important stuff, too. like The people who are going to say you know who are going to set the guidelines for railways, railways bridges, roads, on-ramps. These are the guys who were saying, this is the way you have to build an on-ramp, and this is the ah this is the length that it has to be, and the ah the angle that it has to be at, or the ranges of angles that it has to fall within.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
like really important stuff that like, yeah, enables like the day to day, like little minutia, um, that you start changing that stuff and cutting corners with that, or taking out the experts who are, you know, setting the standards, then but suddenly your roads and your bridges and your trains start crashing.
00:10:05
James
So many things that people don't know. Yeah.
00:10:28
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
And you know, LA is already having their third fire this year. So I think we have any more destruction budget left.
00:10:42
James
Well, hey, well, if nothing else, I mean, the I think the the thing about the people getting hired is a good segue into Elon Musk and his general corruption.
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James
I mean, you can talk about the SIG Heil or whatever if you want first, but ah ah corruption, corruption's front and center in the new administration already.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
You know, like,
00:11:06
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah. Okay. So let me see if I got, I'll start off for both of these. So Elon at, uh, like Trump's inauguration, post inauguration thing, like I saw the picture.
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James
Everybody's seeing the picture.
00:11:19
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Okay. Like my wife showed me the picture and I'm looking at it.
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James
That could be a bad frame.
00:11:22
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I'm like, okay. Like that's nothing. Like, like, I'm like, I'm like, Oh, come on.
00:11:27
James
And he does it He wants it.
00:11:27
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Like someone, he was doing a thing, you know, everybody there's, everybody's got a picture where they look like they're doing a Nazi salute. If you freeze frame and get the angle just wrong.
00:11:36
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Uh, and then she like clicks on it and shows me a video and I'm like, Oh, I'm like, Oh shit.
00:11:44
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Well, that looks bad. And then I'm like, I'm like, still, I'm just like, I don't believe it. I'm like, okay, well, and no, I come on. Like, what what was the rest of the context? Like, is that AI will hold up what's happening here?
00:11:56
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
And then she Googles it and it's like CNN Reuters, AP news. And I'm just like, Oh my God. And there. So he did a Nazi salute, not once, but twice.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I mean, it was kind of a weird Nazi salute, but he's a weird dude.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
You know, it was like once to the crowd, once to the flag, I guess, at at least he didn't do one, to like one to Trump. So that was, but he's been platforming, you know, and and like agreeing with, uh, neo Nazis on Twitter.
00:12:26
James
Well, the first thing you did is bring them all back. All the people who are blocked like that, you know, the neo-nazi groups or anything else. One of the first things you did was bring them on black. Bring them on black. Back.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
they would not like to be brought black.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
um But yeah.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
um And then people are saying it's like a Roman salute and the Roman salute thing is completely bullshit. So like, there is no such thing.
00:12:49
James
they the nazis borrowrate from it boom
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
There's no such thing as a Roman salute. What the idea of it being from a Roman salute. I'm so glad I saw like a video about this. This comes from a painting commissioned by a French king, I think, Louis the something I don't remember which Louis but it's one of the Louis. um And basically the people were getting pissed and doing an uprising. And he wanted to promote like, civil responsibility and like joining the army. So he like had this painting commissioned of like, three ah brothers, and they're holding out their hands for their father to hand them
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
ah their their swords so they can go join the army and defend Rome, presumably. And from it kind of like they're they're reaching forward. It kind of looks like a Nazi salute.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
It's not as it's not as up as they are, but it's kind of.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, it's it's it's like that.
00:13:49
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
But like, yeah, well, like this is not from this is not like a thing that actually happened in Rome.
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
This is like a propaganda piece from France when the people were getting uppity and the aristocracy was, you know, displeased.
00:14:07
James
Yeah, so far right Yeah, well, yeah cuz I mean
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GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Okay, so yeah, you can talk about the um to corruption.
00:14:15
James
It's kind of funny, you know, as they're blocking federal agencies, they're blocking all these other things, all the hires and so on. And they said they're going to cut that spinning. Well, they also, he also moved to make the department of government efficiency, like an official white house thing, right? Official executive branch, uh, department, which means just like Hillary Clinton learned.
00:14:42
James
Any emails, anything like that, if it's federal government, it's got to be on government servers. If you do stuff on your own servers, that'll get you you know you know that'll get the Russians invited to find your emails. But that's not the way they're running it. They're not running it like a government site.
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James
Now Twitter gave the Department of Government Efficiency, Twitter account, X account, what are you gonna call it? A gray check mark. Gray check marks only go to government agencies. right So it's a government agency. How might you and how much you how much you go about applying to work with the Department of a Government Efficiency? Well, you have to subscribe to Twitter and pay Elon Musk to be to get the verified blue check mark.
00:15:32
James
And then you can apply to the Department of Government efficiency from Twitter. You don't even have a real application process that goes to the government. All the emails, any communications are going through Twitter. So he
00:15:44
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
And they also didn't they say like, like it's going to be like 100 hours a week and like, you know, it's going to be unpaid.
00:15:49
James
said for people. They didn't say anything about it being unpaid. They said for people who work 80 hours, it's a tweet. It's not a policy, it's a tweet. And well if you're willing to put in 80 hours plus a week for that unglorified job of cover cutting government waste.
00:16:06
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
For the unglorified. I mean, it's like if you have the the money to survive not being paid and you
00:16:08
James
Well, you don't know if they're not.
00:16:13
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
you own enough capital as businesses or buildings ah so that, you know, by changing the government policies, you can line your own pockets.
00:16:26
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Then have we got a job for you?
00:16:27
James
and they're doing a lot of lining their own pockets too, man. God.
00:16:30
James
So there's so much talk about and we don't have nearly enough time to talk about all this stuff.
00:16:34
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Like Elon, but between between Tesla and SpaceX, he is the largest recipient of government money.
00:16:42
James
Government money. Yeah, corporate welfare.
00:16:43
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
he's biggest He's the biggest government contractor.
00:16:52
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, and he's gonna be running Doge, which is going to be looking at budgeting, which is gonna look at contracts that are gonna go to any of the ah other electric car companies, any of the other AI companies, any of the other self-driving car companies,
00:17:13
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
you know, satellite internet companies, like, he's in so many things, you know, and space, other space companies.
00:17:18
James
World broadband. Yeah, exactly.
00:17:22
James
I think about the grants for rural broadband. I live in a little town called Calts, Indiana, right? And we got some nice fiber internet out here. Don't think we would have had good fiber internet out here because of such a big population, such a big demand for it. You know, uh, Biden has been pushing for awhile for a rural but broadband and everything else and grants and subsidies and things to get the stuff built. I wouldn't be surprised if, if, uh, Elon Musk steers the government into, uh, having everybody pay him for Starlink.
00:17:57
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I couldn't be surprised.
January 6th Pardons and Historical Parallels
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James
Oh man, but, um, Hey, on the bright side, it's gonna be tough on crime, right? Trump wants to do, he wants to be really tough on crime, right?
00:18:11
James
Back in the blue, right? Let's stop all the crime. I'll stop all this invasion, right? Of illegal immigrants.
00:18:17
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
him Back in the blue with a knife in the back.
00:18:18
James
So what's that? Backing the blue. So the first thing, yeah, everybody, if you were in Washington, DC, January 6th, you committed crimes it doesn't really matter what the crimes were you could have gouged out the eyes of a cop you know what you got yourself a pardon yeah
00:18:37
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
like there was guy so literally like one of the guys was tasing a cop multiple times in the neck and he got off there were guys who like the head of the proud boys head of the oath keepers um yeah it's like it's absolutely insane like these are guys who were convicted by
00:18:41
James
oh yeah oh yeah the guys who literally gouged out the eyes they literally pulled the eyeballs out of the cops they got pardon yeah yeah
00:18:59
James
but not funny i'm not laughing because that's funny i'm laughing because it's over the top ridiculous they're his people patriotism if you're going to be a mob for him no for him yeah
00:19:07
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
of seditious conspiracies some of them by Trump appointed judges and the reason that they're getting off is because he wants to make it clear that like the rule of law doesn't apply if you're breaking the law to help the leader and this is this is so similar to uh to what Hitler did no to hit to Hitler because like Hitler got in and he uh
00:19:30
James
Proncharts. Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:36
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
What was it, the brown shirts or something?
00:19:37
James
That's what I said. Yeah.
00:19:39
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Oh, you said the brown. OK, I didn't hear you.
00:19:42
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I thought you said Richardson.
00:19:45
James
You start off with a mob, you get your mob. Hey. And yeah, so anybody thinks that. I don't know. I think it goes without saying, man.
00:19:57
James
I mean, whatever. I think it's a nice segue into the other stuff you did though. So if you're with them, you can break the law, you can attack cops, you can kill a cop, you can gouge out their eyes, whatever, it doesn't matter. You get a pardon, you're with him, you're okay. On the flip side, if you were with Trump, let's say you're John Bolton or Mike Pompeo, and you were with Trump and you assassinated you know iranian Iranian generals, you know because Trump wanted to do it,
00:20:29
James
And you did so, and you made it happen. And the Secret Service since then has been saying, whoa, there's a huge target. And they've been you know finding you know assassination attempts on these people.
00:20:42
James
Well, they spoke bad about Trump since they left office. So he revoked their Secret Service protection.
00:20:50
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
To who specifically?
00:20:50
James
Now, John Bolton on bolton and and Mike Pompeo.
00:20:52
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Is that Millie you're talking about?
00:20:55
James
Yeah, both of them.
00:20:55
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Bolton and Pompeo.
00:20:57
James
Yeah, both of them. because ah Technically, under the Constitution, only former presidents are automatically afforded secret service protection. But there's a lot of former government people, you know, secretaries of state, former secretaries of state, former secretaries of defense, you know, high profile people, you know, who when they retire, if they got big targets on their back, you know, and governments aware that there's assassination attempts and plots against their lives for things, they can give them protections. and and And Biden gave Mike Pompeo and John Bolton secret service protection because there was active assassination plots against them. They intercepted and stopped. And the during the transition, they also briefed the Trump people about this because they all knew, they were directly told that, hey, these people these other people have secret service details,
00:21:52
James
because of all these ongoing assassination attempts against their lives. But Trump doesn't like them. And in the same spirit that he pardoned all the people who committed crimes on his behalf, the people who were getting some protection, he at the exact same time told them, no, you're on your own. So good luck. Don't get assassinated. you know And he revoked their Secret Service protection. So I wouldn't be surprised if they get assassinated pretty soon.
00:22:22
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Jesus Christ.
00:22:25
James
Yeah, it's fun times and if ah So anyway, that was uh, I was just reading about that a little bit um Why we're on crime and you know crime and you know law and order um You know, they would they want to do a lot of stuff fun it ties into immigration, but whatever, you know, they they want to
00:22:28
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Um, no, keep going.
00:22:47
James
He's invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. You know, the the famous laws that had the military go on domestic soil to do things like, you know, kick Indians off of their land and and things like that.
Military's Role in Immigration Enforcement
00:23:01
James
Well, he's reinvoking that, um presumably for the border because they need to have bases and military personnel because they they're, he's some of the other executive orders, he's ending the process of asylum.
00:23:15
James
They are people who are now coming to the border to request asylum are no longer allowed to do so.
00:23:18
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Thank you.
00:23:20
James
They are no longer allowed to see a judge. They have to be immediately detained in you know and and or deported right back immediately. there is no There is no due process.
00:23:31
James
There is no judges. There's nothing like that. They're not allowed to have any of that stuff. And so they're bringing the military so they can use military bases and personnel to try to stop that.
00:23:43
James
um and addition to that. ah They want to he's ah ordered to stop off federal assistance to sanctuary cities, right? If you're a Chicago, New York, you know, whatever these quotes, sanctuary cities that for migrants, they want to cut off all the federal resources and less and make the cities play ball, which means have the cops at the local city, you know, local jurisdictions, play by play ball with them and Turnover people go do immigration, you know roundups and everything else and do stuff like that and share information anything with the federal government ah With them and and at least they have one friend in New York City. Yes, Eric Adams because Joe Biden ah Their Justice Department not Joe Biden but his Justice Department After investigating him, you know, they he got indicted, you know bribery wirefrog conspiracy soliciting campaign contributions from foreign nationals and
00:24:42
James
you know, real stand up guy, he got indicted by the Justice Department, but it hasn't gone anywhere yet. As we know with Trump, Justice Department takes his time for things. And so I'm sure Eric Adams is making a deal with Trump and them to probably drop these charges. And in exchange, ah looks like Eric Adams is just going to turn over and he said he'll do everything Trump wants. He's fully on board with this, you know. So.
00:25:08
James
New York is, uh, been ghost town. Some of the real migrant, like heavy Hispanic population places look like ghost towns right now. Same thing as Chicago. Everybody's worried about getting raided and stuff.
00:25:21
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, there was an Instagram post going around a couple of days ago about about cops asking for IDs at the Lake and Clark CTA stop this
00:25:37
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
morning, people. So but that's not all. So he also designated an invasion across the southern border, um which triggers certain executive branch powers.
00:25:49
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
um And he says his cabinet, quote, shall take appropriate action to repel, repatriate, or remove any alien engaged in the invasion.
00:25:59
James
yeah which also means killing you can kill people you can shoot them that's appropriate actually if you're being invaded you're you would be authorized the military would be authorized to kill them
00:26:08
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
But that's also how you get the US military to act as immigration and border enforcement officers. um Yeah.
00:26:18
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
So it's ah it's the military. It's also the National Guard, ah ground air transport vehicles, other logistics. They're using the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which has historically limited the use of military personnel and domestic law enforcement actions um because he's framing it as a the migrant flow as a national security threat.
00:26:46
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
um He's arguing that it justifies the military orders anyway. They're also stopping refugee arrivals. um They've redefined birthright citizenship, which is guaranteed in the 14th Amendment.
Birthright Citizenship Redefinition Risks
00:27:02
James
Luckily, I already stopped by the federal good.
00:27:04
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
and So but this one's a real like face palm moment because um so the 14th Amendment um It does have an exception.
00:27:15
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
It basically says if you're not under the jurisdiction of the United States, then even if you're parent, even if you're born here, um, you can't get birthright citizenship. And that's in place because if say you're a diplomat from an enemy country like Russia or China or any country, yeah, like the diplomats children don't become American citizens because they're not under the jurisdiction of the United States, but in doing this,
00:27:43
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
It basically says, and this is what's being argued, is that ah all non-citizens in America are no longer under the jurisdiction of the United States, which means they can't be charged with any crimes. Like all immigrants would have diplomatic immunity. So in addition to like making all of us girls, he's made all of the em immigrants unprosecutable by trying to get rid of birthright citizenship, which is, it's just so stupid.
00:28:13
James
Mm-hmm. It's stupid. It sounds face Unconscious and if i I wish I had the exact text I was looking at it earlier.
00:28:16
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
It's malicious also.
00:28:21
James
I was staring at it earlier it seems to be that if a woman
00:28:26
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Also, all of his children all of his children were were born to um immigrant mothers.
00:28:36
James
yeah but and that's the funny thing too on there as I was reading the the order the father Uh, if the father is a citizen, it's okay. All right.
00:28:47
James
It's weird though, the way it was written is like, it singled out like the woman. If the woman is, uh, temporary status or whatever it is, basically it doesn't say permanent resident.
00:28:59
James
It's as if the father is not a permanent resident or a citizen. It was, uh, I remember looking at the wording.
00:29:04
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, if, if the mother does not have legal immigration status, or is in the country legally but only temporarily, and to condition to the father is not a US citizen or lawful permanent resident, the order forbids us agencies from issuing any document recognizing them as a citizen.
00:29:05
James
It really looked like.
00:29:16
James
So if you get, yes.
00:29:20
James
So she's a lawful permanent resident, lawful permanent resident is not mentioned on her. So I'll tell you somebody who's a lawful permanent resident. They came here when they were three years old and got the law lawful permanent resident, permanent residents are here for life.
00:29:38
James
I mean, they're here, you know, exactly.
00:29:39
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Well, lawful permanent resident is a legal immigration status, no?
00:29:43
James
yeah but you it's why is it defined for the husband for the father but not for the mother you see i'm saying they would just argue that that's not permanent that's that's temporary because it's renewed every 10 years i think they are because i mean a permanent resident is permanent resume you start to renew every 10 years if you don't renew it then you're here you would be illegally yeah
00:29:48
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Oh yeah, I don't know, that's a weird thing. Yeah. Like, are they shooting themselves in the foot by like, trying to make it sexist also? Look, it's...
00:30:06
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
It's hard to juggle xenophobia, you know, racism and sexism at the same time, while like writing two sentence laws, like that's, ah that's a rough one, you know, like, should have used a third sentence, maybe, I don't know.
00:30:14
James
They do it pretty good. Yeah.
00:30:23
James
Yeah. It's bad. But either way.
00:30:25
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, they still use all over that one.
00:30:27
James
Yeah, that one got stopped immediately. And liza like, like, Brian Tyler Cohen and Mark Elias had a good talk about that one. And even Mark Elias, who's like, look, I'm no fan of the Supreme Court. And yeah, they really, they reached as far as they could for Trump in a lot of these cases. But he says he's like, even this six three Supreme Court is not going to uphold this. This is dead, dead, dead, dead. That's not gonna happen. So I'm pretty sure that I'm pretty sure that one's dead.
00:30:56
James
ah Yeah, that's not going anywhere.
00:30:59
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
They're also requiring the collection of DNA samples and fingerprints from immigration detainees. That is under a 2005 law, so that's an Obama law.
00:31:18
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Oh, wow. Oh, wait.
00:31:20
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, that makes more sense. OK.
00:31:23
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
They forbid catch and release.
00:31:27
James
Yeah, go straight to the camp.
00:31:27
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
ah They've directed back over the border.
00:31:29
James
You have to go straight to a camp or away, or go over the border. Or just disappear them. That's what's probably going to end up happening with this administration. They'll probably just disappear all these people. Oh, also the kids, the kids, man. The ah thousand remaining kids who were kidnapped from their parents under the first Trump term, ah where we they got the people who didn't speak English, just made them sign papers, and then they deported the parents and kept the kids, and then let the kids get turned into foster families and everything else, and lost their parents because they didn't keep any records. Well, Biden had a task force to try to reunite the kids with their parents that Trump sent away and kept their kids.
00:32:07
James
ah that was That was also one of the very very first ones he got rid of that task force So we are keeping those thousand kids that we stole from their parents There you go Just to be mean it could be mean because the whole family separation thing was just to be mean and He wants to send a message that hey you come over here with your kids.
00:32:16
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
But why? Like, if we want all the immigrants to go, why are we? why are we
00:32:31
James
You'll just lose your kid
00:32:34
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I mean, on the one hand, right, that sounds like a deterrent. And I bet for some people that that actually is a deterrent.
00:32:41
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
But for other people, they're probably thinking like,
00:32:44
James
It'd be better off in America. Yeah.
00:32:46
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, these kids will be better off in of America.
00:32:47
James
and Yeah. And besides Republicans don't give a shit about taking care of people's kids. I mean, when shit, they want to get rid of abortion, but they don't want to do shit for the people who are having kids.
00:32:57
James
So I mean, it's, it's still tracks.
00:33:01
James
You know, once it gets boring, they don't give a shit about them until they can be a soldier or rich.
00:33:06
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Unless it's a woman, unless it's a, unless it's a woman, and then, you know, she doesn't have reproductive rights right off the bat.
00:33:18
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
They ended the so-called, quote, parole programs, which were often referred to as family reunification, which allowed family members of certain citizens and permanent resident immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela to come to the U.S. while their visa applications were still pending.
00:33:36
James
Have they gotten rid of the temporary status yet?
00:33:39
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
They required a review, that's actually the next thing, is they required a review of all cases for all immigrants now in the U.S.
00:33:45
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
under temporary protected status. with the stated intent of ensuring that such designations are appropriately limited in scope and last the minimum amount of time necessary to fulfill the textual requirement of federal law.
Southern Border as Invasion and Military Action
00:33:59
James
That's better than I thought it was going to be right off the bat.
00:34:02
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
And I ah really wonder what that is going to mean.
00:34:02
James
It doesn't mean it's not horrible.
00:34:05
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Like I wonder if if they're going to apply these immigration laws like evenly across people from different countries or if it's going to be like
00:34:13
James
Of course not, they didn't- no, they didn't do the last times.
00:34:15
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
people from South America, you know, are going to be like the top of the list.
00:34:17
James
I didn't do that last time. I didn't do that the last time. No, remember last year, last time they said, hey, there's a Muslim ban.
00:34:21
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
How do they do it last time?
00:34:26
James
Muslims not allowed to come here. And the court said, fuck you, man, you can't do that. You can't just say a Muslim ban. Jesus Christ, man, for religion. And then they said, fine. We'll just ban everybody from Libya, Algeria, that and just rattle off all the Muslim countries. you know Except for the ones that were giving Trump and his family a lot of money, like Saudi Arabia. you know So except for those ones, everybody else but was banned. And then the Supreme Court said, well, those places are deemed to be you know unsafe, whatever places. It's okay, it's okay. you know Same thing with this. i mean he'll he'll
00:35:05
James
If he wants to block everybody in South America and then some big you know drug cartel wants to give Trump, ah but buy up a whole bunch of Trump meme coins to jack up the price you know of the meme coin and make Trump richer, I'm sure they that country would not be on the list.
00:35:19
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Okay, so that's a really interesting thing because because because
Mexican Cartels as Terrorists - Impact Analysis
00:35:23
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
the one thing that he did that I like is that he designated the drug cartels as terrorist organizations.
00:35:34
James
yeah so what i mean he also designates antifa as a fucking terrorist organization who's the drug cartel who is the drug cartel you can say drug cartels are terrorists okay but now you'd be more specific you know people know who they are but you get to designate it just saying a drug cartel is a terrorist organization
00:35:38
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Well, and that's true. No, I mean, we know who that we know who the drug cartels are. I think that like that gives
00:35:53
James
well let's say you are a drug cartel okay you have to be labeled officially by the government as a cartel to be that just because you're a group of people with guns and drugs who's to say you are a drug cartel and you're not just a group of biker enthusiasts
00:36:15
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Oh wait, so it wasn't all the cartels actually. It was just the Mexican ones.
00:36:19
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
So not the Colombian ones, for example.
00:36:20
James
See? it There you go.
00:36:24
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Colombian drug cartels, not terrorists.
00:36:27
James
See? There's always a catch with Trump man, with his people.
00:36:36
James
be a Trump meme coin.
00:36:36
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I mean, it could lead to penalties, fines, asset seizures, criminal charges on companies and individuals. Found to be paying ransom or extortion payments, US companies could yeah be ensnared by standard payments made to Mexican companies that a cartel controls without the American company's knowledge. Some extortion payments, even if made under duress, could be considered material support to cartels.
00:37:08
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
former U.S. officials and analysts point out that it would be nearly impossible to identify which businesses ah may employ or be affiliated with cartel members given the tens of thousands of people involved in operating in various industries including the hotel and agriculture sectors.
00:37:14
James
ah could tell There you go, that's well thing and just what I was just saying. it was like
00:37:24
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Cartels used the legal economy to launder money which could mean that unwitting employees working at a resort or an avocado packing company could technically be on the cartel payroll but not know it.
00:37:32
James
Mar-a-Lago. I mean, he's a fucking cartel leader anyway, so yeah.
00:37:41
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
banks can turn people away because they may not think they're worth the risk if they have links to Mexico. This just seems like a way to punish everyone from Mexico and kind of like just treat them like terrorists.
00:37:54
James
well yeah it's an invasion for mexico and they have a woman president now two strikes against the man and a woman president who won't back down and laughs at him trying to call the gulf of mexico the gulf of murica gulf of america folks
00:38:11
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
That's just, that's just on the, that's like the with the, that's like with Elon's Nazi salute. Like that's the distraction from all of the like the real stuff that they're doing.
00:38:25
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah. So there were the rewarding reverting, excuse me, to vetting and screening standards used by Trump's first term. They're repealing a Biden order requiring planning for the effects of climate change on world migration patterns.
00:38:40
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
So we're just going to not plan for that, I guess.
00:38:45
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Direct the Secretary of State and US s diplomats effectively to threaten sanctions against any nation seen as reluctant to accept and facilitate the return of its citizens that the US deports.
00:38:58
James
hmm I did not know though on the Gulf of America by the way um Stephen Colbert floated it back in 2010 as a joke when he was still doing the Colbert report and ah yeah there's a little satire he he came back to it in 2012 again too when he was interviewing some Mississippi lawmaker and so yeah from a Stephen Colbert joke and maybe yeah naming it the Gulf of America
00:39:22
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Wait, what did he float?
00:39:26
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Oh, yeah.
00:39:27
James
is a Stephen Colbert idea is a Colbert rep report idea.
00:39:31
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
This is why we can't have nice things.
00:39:33
James
Yeah, but yeah, Gulf of America, man. But um yeah, that's the that's one of the distracting
00:39:43
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
You know, I heard that the yeah the stuff with like Panama and Greenland, like Panama and Greenland both have so Panama isn't like really worth anything monetarily. It's like a $5 billion dollars business, and we lease it anyway. So it doesn't do us any good to own the land. But it does have strategic significance, um and so does Greenland.
Environmental Policy Rollbacks and Criticism
00:40:06
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
And the person who those both have strategic significance to is Putin.
00:40:13
James
and i do ah In China, I mean in dude but real oh oh Environment the environment I mean with all the Nazi salutes and all the other horrible shit and
00:40:26
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
let's see what else um
00:40:36
James
The one thing that people always, the thing that's always in the back of everybody's mind, way in the back of everybody's mind, the thing that will doom humans to, you know, die off, you know, the planet will be fine, like Neil Grouse Tyson's always said, the planet will go on just fine. People may not. but People will die. But the planet will recover from people, you know. There's been other things before, people are a blip.
00:41:02
James
but wow the assault on the environment man it was like it was like an ex-wife of Pete Hegseth man that's how bad the environment got it you know how Pete Hegseth is you know grabbing his ex-wife by her crotch and being violent and everything else well environment got a ah piece of that action you know open up all Anwar ever you know and you know the takeaway indigenous peoples land up there and in the in the Arctic
00:41:34
James
open every single every single thing that was denied for oil drilling in Anwar or Alaska and everything else. Everything has been revoked. Drill, drill, drill everywhere.
00:41:46
James
Complete assault and everything.
00:41:46
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I mean, and this like, and like this drilling is comes at a time when the United States is producing more oil than any other country in the history of the world.
00:41:56
James
Yeah. Well, we have to get more.
00:41:57
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Like we're already drilling the most ever.
00:41:59
James
yeah um removed all the reversed by executive order, all the mandates on electric vehicles, took us out of the Paris plum climate accord again.
00:42:12
James
Everything every everything he could revoke that helped the environment by executive order was basically just now undone. ah God.
00:42:21
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
We also declared a national energy emergency so that they can, um, you know, they can, uh, they can use the imminent domain and the defense production act to come into your private land and resources.
00:42:36
James
yeah but we blocked all the new wind energy because you know he still thinks windmill causes cancer and he says they're ugly yeah oh yes and according to the mit by the way just in case anybody's thinking about this because in just in case
00:42:43
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Oh yeah. That was like on the northern shelf or something like that.
00:42:57
James
because the best lies have something that rings true right people will think that more I could see that Trump says that these windmills they're spinning around kill birds and yes it's true a bird can fly into one of those big things there and die just like your window in fact I your window or actually house cats and fossil fuels kill more birds house cats that get outside they kill more birds all of the wind binds combined the wind turbines combined so just let you know yeah windows windows we should ban windows to save the birds it does happen you can ask matt kish ask her friend matt flew into his window he had to go out there and do a new work
00:43:33
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I mean, there's plenty of there's plenty of birds. But you know what else kills birds on the topic of fun things that kill birds? um i don't think windows are I don't think windows are killing birds. I feel like that's that's a cartoon.
00:43:49
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Dude, you got to quit. you You got to quit. You got to remember this is the internet and stop using full names and and and specific towns.
00:43:54
James
okay It's a friend of mine. I got a friend who's who a bird flew into his window No, I didn't say much the time he lives in but whatever man Just some brand-new guy I work with man and a bird flew into his window don't go looking him up on the internet
00:44:02
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, but yeah, don't don't say what town you live in either.
00:44:12
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
No, but OK. If you're ever driven from LA to Vegas, like you might if you were escaping the wildfires for a weekend of frivolity, let's say, it's like a mirror power plant.
00:44:32
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
And so it uses a massive array of mirrors to redirect the sun's light, kind of like a magnifying glass on like an ant if you're a horrible person. um And it all points at this central tower when they pump water up into that and then it turns into steam and produces pressure. But like all of the air, but like around from the mirrors beaming the sun's rays at the tower like the air around it becomes superheated and if the birds fly into it they just explode and if they just like burst into flames and just are immediately burned to a crisp.
00:45:04
James
Well, one of the other executive orders he signed, and it sounds stupid and ridiculous on his face, he signed an executive order that reverses the decision that climate change is dangerous.
00:45:19
James
Climate change is no longer dangerous, okay?
00:45:23
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
What a relief.
00:45:24
James
Because of climate change if climate change is now not dangerous, Right. That would go, there's a 2007 Supreme court ruling that said the EPA has authority to regulate any planet warming gases.
00:45:36
James
If they determine that they pose a threat to public health, if it's dangerous and they did that, they said greenhouse gases and ginger endanger both public health and public welfare of the current and future generation. So by executive order, if you say it's not dangerous, now the EPA has no authority to regulate anything.
00:45:54
James
Cause it's not dangerous. So now EPA.
00:45:56
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Well, they don't have the authority to regulate anything anyway because of the, God, what was the, this was from like a year ago.
00:46:02
James
but they had the authority to regulate it. the The Supreme Court ruled that they didn't have the authority to um they could regulate something that's already like, like, the laid out to them, they couldn't impose any other like guidelines or any other restrictions on things, you know, it's a nail in the coffin.
00:46:22
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Like the basic, I can't remember the name of this, the name of this decision, but the
00:46:25
James
I know what you're talking about, but it's a nail in the coffin. This is a
00:46:27
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, but like the basics, the basics of it was that, um, interpretation of the law was given over to the federal agencies.
00:46:35
James
Chevron, over run Chevron.
00:46:37
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Chevron doctrine.
00:46:38
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yes. Thank you. And what that meant was that like, you know, Congress would pass a law that would say, you know, like the roads have to be safe as determined by the department of transportation.
00:46:51
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Then the department of transportation hires like a civil engineer and that guy says, you know, You have to use these materials when you build an off ramp so semi trucks don't just break it and fall off. We have to have this much of a, you know, ah this much it has to be this long so you have time to slow down or it has to be this much of a curve gradient or whatever. um And so like those guys would be able to decide that. And with this decision, losing the Chevron doctrine.
00:47:24
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
ah Now the judges in those cases where the government sues some company for not following the law, to the judges get to interpret and determine what is, what is meant by, you know, safe roads or any other like number of statutes on anything, AI, crypto, you know, like all of the things that old people don't know anything about because they're they're new and you have to be like an expert in that domain.
00:48:01
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, that was a while ago. So I mean, they were already, they were toothless, they were toothless for a while.
00:48:04
James
They were working on it. But basically they were saying if there's any ambiguity, they were saying, to be but things like Chevron took it, it beat it up. It beat up these agencies, right?
00:48:15
James
It didn't kill them off. It says, ah hey, they can't come up with something that says, hey, ah ah if there's ambiguity in the law, where what is it that Robert said? He said, ah Congress expects courts to handle technical statutory questions in course of, you know are excuse me, let me go back here.
00:48:31
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, but dude 50 years of laws were written with the assumption that the agencies would be.
00:48:36
James
Yeah, yeah, they're saying that make clear that the agencies should interpret statutes like agency interpretations of the Constitution. um <unk> It said that silver means that the responsibility of the court to decide whether the whether the law means what the agency says. Now, of course, with the EPA, it's already been decided. Yes, greenhouse gases, public threat, they're allowed to do that. They have certain steps they're allowed to do. And I mean, there's no ambiguity there.
00:49:02
James
Right under currently, even with Chevron, even with the Chevron decision, EPA could still do things these things, to these companies with Trump's executive order. If they just say climate change is not dangerous now, now the EPA no longer has the authority to regulate any of this stuff for the, for the, you know, the greenhouse gases, because it's no longer dangerous. It's not dangerous. They only have the authority to regulate it.
00:49:25
James
If it's opposed the threat to public health, if you say it's not, uh, you don't, there's no threat to public health. Now they don't have the authority to regulate it. So yeah, anyway, there's, and there's a lot more, I mean, God, there was so much more.
00:49:34
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Let me see. Great.
00:49:40
James
They, they, they opened up a whole bunch of drilling. There's so many things I did on the environment.
00:49:45
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
They rolled back Biden-era limits on our regulations on fossil fuel extraction on federal lands.
00:49:52
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
They restored the first Trump administration rules on hunting and trapping in national preserves.
00:49:57
James
yeah Yeah, you can see.
00:49:59
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
and ordered the Interior Department to align federal rules on hunting and fishing in Alaska with rules for state government lands.
00:50:07
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
ah They denied a pending US Fish and Wildlife Service request to create an indigenous sacred site within the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
Water Rights Legal Battles
00:50:17
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Fuck the fish. That's how we're going to make America healthy again. Oh, and we are re-engaging a legal and regulatory battle with California state government over water routes from Sacramento, San Joaquin Delta.
00:50:35
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Because they want to override fish and wildlife protection efforts to route more of the water to the Central Valley in Southern California.
00:50:50
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, everything everywhere all at once could also be the title of this episode.
00:50:56
James
Hmm. Let's see. Oh oh yeah. Now, if you want to look, let's, I'm gonna do this something real fast, okay? I'm gonna see, if you wanna look up the Constitution, right? If you wanna look up the C, if you wanna compare the text of the Constitution with,
00:51:17
James
but with it's only on the Obama White House archives.gov.
00:51:23
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Ah, at least there's the Internet Archive.
00:51:23
James
Anyway, if you're wanting to look up the Constitution, if you're wanting to look up the Constitution, the new Trump administration, removed the constitution from their website.
00:51:35
James
When you click on the link to look at the constitution, you get a 404 error.
00:51:40
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
And also reproductiverights.gov and the
00:51:41
James
Yep, it's still there by the way. Whitehouse dot.gov slash about dash the dash white dash house slash our dash government slash the dash constitution.
00:51:53
James
That's the website, the government website, the White House government website for the constitution. It's a 404 page not found. It took that down and like, you Oh, when you click, Oh God. ah Jesus and you oh my god, why did I click on this button?
00:52:06
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, the white house the the White House page for diversity, the White House page for the Spanish version also taken down.
00:52:09
James
Oh God, oh my god, if you go to whitehouse.gov, it's just a big fucking infomercial for Trump. Just go to whitehouse.gov.
00:52:19
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
was it Does it have links to buy the meme coin and the $100,000 Trump branded watches?
00:52:19
James
It's a it's a fucking not yet you have to know first you have to watch a whole big promotional video about Donald Trump.
00:52:31
James
It's a video. Go to whitehouse.gov. It's a fucking video all about Donald Trump. It's just, oh my God.
Trump Meme Coin and Financial Implications
00:52:39
James
oh but can get That'll keep people from going to the whitehouse.gov website.
00:52:44
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
great uh but you know there's like this whole like thing with the trump meme coin like and it's shooting up in value it's just like the easiest way to just directly give him money because they also like they mint out a whole bunch of the coins originally for like the trump family so like they all just have like a massive share
00:52:46
James
Anyway, yeah, the constitution is removed.
00:52:51
James
Oh God, corruption.
00:53:06
James
Oh, they all have it. Milania. Yeah, Milania has one to do Milania has one too and there's another there's like four of them now There's like four trump coins and Milania owns one he owns one of it yeah yeah I'm so pissed though, man.
00:53:16
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
You know, I'm going to buy, I'm going to buy some Trump coins. I'm going to, I don't want to like, I don't want to get left behind when it like blows up. Like if you're going to bribe the president, I at least want to ride along.
00:53:29
James
Like I'm so like I did crypto man. I was mining crypto back when you know, crypto was awesome and I You know, I was a fan of crypto. I understood, of course, that, dude, they really do need to regulate this shit because, yeah, it's it is.
00:53:44
James
I mean, yeah, I understand the principle behind it. I kind of like it a little bit, but I understood it's a criminal's dream come true for money laundering and and things like it's why all the ransomware things always want you to pay in Bitcoin and always goes back to Russia.
00:53:59
James
You know, it's it's
00:53:59
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Oh wait wait on the topic of criminals dream come true that reminds me so one of the pardons was for the guy who was the founder of silk road yeah like how does that like how like why that guy like
00:54:08
James
Oh yeah, I saw that one too, yeah. Life in prison. From life in prison for drug trafficking and guns and all kinds of illegals on the Silk Road website. He's doing life in prison. He got out. Yep, he pardoned him. I don't know if he pardoned or commuted his sentence, whatever. It doesn't matter, he's out of prison now.
00:54:30
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
That one seems so random, but like sorry, go back to whatever you're...
00:54:32
James
Follow the money. Follow the money. Follow the money. I'm sure it goes back to crypto. Remember, like he still has like tens of millions of dollars in Bitcoin. You know, the Silk Road guy does. He's still got plenty of money waiting for him. I wouldn't be surprised. i Remember, it's legal for Trump. Trump could have sold all these pardons. Silk Road guy could have said, hey, dude, I'll give you 20 fucking million dollars. Give me a pardon. And he said, hell yeah.
00:54:59
James
And nobody could have done with that pardon. He could have bought up $20 fucking million dollars of Trump coins to make a the price spike from $6 to $75 like it did like within 24 or 48 hours. Somebody was pumping it.
00:55:10
James
Somebody pumped it. and yeah i mean But it's legal now.
00:55:14
James
The Supreme Court said that's legal. You can sell a pardon. You can do whatever you want. You can profit off the presidency as long as you have an official act associated with the crime.
00:55:26
James
You can't even bring in the the evidence of the crime because it's an official act. You can't touch it. So yeah, he could have sold the pardon for $40 million dollars to him. Who knows? Is the Supreme Court said it's legal for him to do that?
00:55:38
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
What do you think is going to happen with that, um, with that law to have the US government have a Bitcoin reserve of some huge amount to like spike the price of it?
00:55:48
James
Oh, he's already signed it. I think that's one of the executive orders that saying that the government can't do that. He already made an executive order saying the government cannot do that because you don't want to compete. You don't want to have a...
00:55:58
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
No, but I mean, that was a, that was a Republican thing.
00:56:01
James
Yeah, but no, he signed an executive order against that.
00:56:05
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Oh, okay. Well, that's.
00:56:08
James
You don't want something real and something for the government to be able to regulate and, you know, because here, if you have a government doing that, you're going to have to have some regulations around ah ah run crypto, right, to make it...
00:56:19
James
official if you want to have it just be a free for all wild west for money laundering criminality then you're going to do what trump did and I'm so pissed at coinbase and everybody else oh yeah before the election I was so fucking pissed at coinbase because I still have some crypto in coinbase and I logged in there and I was looking at the stuff and man they're stupid little Recommendations to to support Donald Trump Donald Trump is for all this and bla blah blah blah blah and all the crypto All all of the crypto exchanges all gave millions of dollars to Trump, you know and the Trump inaugural fund and all this that was Trump's pocket people It's not get ourselves, you know, and yeah, they all gave millions of dollars to Trump all of them crackin coinbase and All of them they all give millions and millions of dollars he Yeah, I mean
00:57:04
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
It's disappointing but not surprising.
00:57:08
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I mean, they are...
00:57:10
James
criminals yeah and now trump in the trump coin is listed on coinbase remember coinbase used to try to pretend that they wouldn't let every little flash in the pants meme coin be listed and
00:57:13
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I mean, that's just directly and to the benefit of their businesses.
00:57:33
James
i can tell you man the shit coins on coinbase are endless now it used to be a lot they used to be a lot more selective but uh yeah trump coins now on coinbase you know i have the trump coins and the the trump meme coin.com coin that's another coin and the oh what was one of the other ones there's like a whole handful of these maga coin they're all being listed yeah they're all being listed on coinbase now they're all flying up in value being the the the pump and dump schemes it's crazy yeah so disappointed.com that's the MAGA coin there's the Trump official trump coin at least it's come back in value all the way down to $33 it's still way up from six but people who are buying at 77 fuck you you're stupid
00:58:29
James
Only 20% of the supply is even circulating. There's only 200 million coins. 80% was held by Donald Trump.
00:58:39
James
Yes, 80% is held by Donald Trump. So all the people they pumped it and it flew from $6 it released up to $77. 80% of it's held by Trump legislat and you just let the price fly up there, then he's going to dump it and screw everybody.
00:58:54
James
But yeah, within 48 hours after 48 hours of the launch of it, uh, the Trump meme coin accounted for, I think it said 81 or 87% of Donald Trump's wealth.
00:59:06
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
eighty one per cent of his wealth
00:59:08
James
Well, yeah, he had a meme.
00:59:08
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I thought most of it was in his the media company for...
00:59:11
James
Well, yeah, when you have hundreds of millions of coins and each coin has a value of $77 within 48 hours, he was freaking loaded. from nothing from a meme coin that he just they just came up with not even his own meme coin it's a sallana it's a it's a it's not even a real you can't use it anywhere it's a total meme coin I mean there's some meme coins out there like Doge and there's other coins Litecoin Bitcoin blah blah blah there's a bunch of things that you can actually use like Litecoin you know it's not a meme coin but it was a you know and we call an right
00:59:51
James
If this is straight up a meme coin, you can't use it anywhere. There's nothing anywhere in existence that you could buy with a Trump coin. I didn't think he accepted on his website or for his stuff. I don't think you could buy Trump shoes or Trump anythings with a Trump coin.
01:00:12
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Well, you can buy a president pardon by the president.
01:00:14
James
You can buy a president, yeah. you can but hey ye
01:00:19
James
oh man anyway jesus so yeah trump coins milania i don't know where her coin is gone what's the milania coin called uh let's see oh yeah milania
01:00:36
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
There's a bunch of like, really just like, It's just dick moves for the sake of being dick moves like this whole section on the death penalty they Take all necessary and lawful action to supply states with adequate drugs to carry out lethal injection
01:00:46
James
Dollar Sun, Trump, Dollar Sun. Oh yeah, the death penalty. Yeah, they want to they they brought back the federal you know death penalty and they made an executive order to say, you need to procure, do whatever you need to, to procure lethal injection, lethal drugs.
01:01:05
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Direct the attorney general to explore whether 37 federal prisoners who had death sentences commuted to life imprisonment by Joe Biden can be charged and tried with capital crimes in state courts.
01:01:17
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Like, oh, that's just so dirty.
01:01:23
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Direct the attorney general to seek reversals of US Supreme Court precedents that limit application of the death penalty in state and federal
Death Penalty Policy Reversals
01:01:32
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
jurisdictions.
01:01:33
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Encourage state attorneys general and district attorneys to pursue the death penalty in all possible cases.
01:01:43
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
It's just like, it's just like mustache twirling at that point. Like if that's like the the one we're like, well like, we're not going to give the fish the sacred grounds in the wildlife of refuge. It's just like, it's like being an asshole, be an asshole.
01:02:06
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
It's very disheartening. I mean, I guess it shouldn't be. It should be like, well, at least like, you know, we're not all required to wear swastikas and have our little red books yet, but it's kind of going that way.
01:02:28
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I can't remember if TikTok had already had their stay of execution the last time we were here.
01:02:37
James
I mean, TikTok, again, TikTok doesn't matter, man. TikTok was a stupid thing. First of all, don't even forget, who was the first politician out there calling for TikTok to be banned?
01:02:51
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
But I actually agree with, I agree with the TikTok ban.
01:02:52
James
And then the Republican party came along with him. I mean, I kind of do too. i Who cares? I mean, honestly, I don't even care, but it's not gonna happen because Biden's CEO gave a bunch of money to Trump and immediately after they had a meeting at Mar-a-Lago and give money, he reversed his stance.
01:03:07
James
And even so he he suffered for, he suffered for 75 days in his executive order.
01:03:07
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
He was only able to stop her for 45 days. It was a
01:03:14
James
Although the law already said they only haven't, they has, they can stop for up to 90 days provided by dancers, X, Y, and Z. And they haven't done any of it. So it doesn't really matter.
01:03:24
James
It doesn't really matter because law and order does not apply to Donald Trump. He doesn't care what the law says. He's going to do whatever he wants to do. And it's just, and and who's going to stop him really?
01:03:35
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Okay, so what do you think is coming next?
01:03:41
James
Uh, Reichstag fire took Hitler 58 days. We're at what day, uh, three, 50, 55 more days ago. Let's see if, uh, Trump's team can do in 55 more days. What Hitler did in Germany in 58 days. so That's where I think we're going.
01:04:09
James
but no We'll see really soon. We'll see soon enough if I'm you know, if my prediction plays out. I'm not one of those like a Seventh-day Adventists who say the the world is going to end on x-day seven years from now or something.
01:04:21
James
Let's just see, you know He doesn't have any guessing that he's he's well no from everybody who's in the car with them.
01:04:22
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I just feel like he can't have that much gas left in the tank. Like.
01:04:29
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Like how much longer how much longer is he going to stay alive, one?
01:04:32
James
from everybody who was in court room with him. He has plenty of guests in his tank.
01:04:36
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
just as kind
01:04:37
James
Remember, he's falling asleep from partying everywhere. But it doesn't matter. he He doesn't give a shit. ju hook here He didn't write any of these executive orders. He didn't write any of that shit.
01:04:48
James
He scribbled his name in the big block, like jaggedy letters, you know? That's all he does. He doesn't do shit. He cheats at golf. He doesn't even golf. He cheats. He has his people throw the ball.
01:05:01
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Seriously?
01:05:01
James
He doesn't do shit. His people do. His psycho people. He's just there to be, he's there to get rich and to be treated like a god. And if he might talk shit about him, then he wants to do whatever he can to make their life hell. That's it. That's his job. In his mind, that's all he does. He doesn't give a shit about the job. He doesn't give a shit about the country. He's there for himself. And he has some psycho people with him.
01:05:28
James
who Some of them are real zealots man. They really are there for the job. They really do believe in all this shit and they're Psycho Stephen Miller types, you know You got your white nationalist you got your over-the-top fanatics. You got your hold You got your rich oligarch, you know fucking billionaire people who just want to make them as much money and screw everybody else Do y'all you have your little coalition?
01:05:53
James
of people with their interests and they will work hard to get their interests done. Trump doesn't give a shit. He just wants power, money and accolades.
01:06:05
James
You know, if he doesn't get accolades, he wants to be the ultra villain and just get revenge.
01:06:06
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
so this So at this point, do you think any of his cabinet nominees are going to not make it?
01:06:20
James
Do I think they are going to not make it?
01:06:22
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, I do you think anybody will not be confirmed.
01:06:30
James
i Think Tulsi won't make it. I think Tulsi Gabbard won't make it and I and I think I'm pretty sure RFK won't make it You think all of them are gonna make it Well, well, here's the thing I I'm talking about confirmation.
01:06:40
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I think they're all going to make it. I think he's going to, I think he's going to get a hundred percent.
01:06:49
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I think that letting, ah letting the Senate can confirm them.
01:06:51
James
I'm talking about Senate confirmation I don't think those two would pass in a confirmation now whether or not they end up in the job is a different question
01:07:00
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I think that him letting them do Senate confirmation was like, uh, was a deal so they could still look like they're important, but they're like, don't worry, we'll do it.
01:07:10
James
I think Hegseth is going to get in with a 51-50 vote with JD Vance being the tiebreaker vote.
01:07:10
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
We'll get them in.
01:07:18
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
You think, who's going to flip on?
01:07:21
James
We got two people already flipped and there's a third one who said even though he voted to advance him to the floor, if they did a vote to advance him you know, and that passed with only Murkowski, mer Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins were the only two Republicans to say no, not even to advance it to it, you know, to official vote or whatever like that. There was another Republican guy who said he wants more of an investigation on some of these other things. Can't remember his name, but I don't remember. What was the name?
01:08:00
James
I close it a while back, I was reading earlier, but there's a couple of people who are good to definitely know.
01:08:07
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
So a couple people.
01:08:10
James
There's two definite noes on Republicans, which was 5149.
01:08:14
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Man, i don't think I don't think anyone's a definite no until they actually vote no.
01:08:14
James
And that's how I, and there's one, well, they did, they did vote no. They voted that he should not even be moved forward in the process to be allowed to be considered for Senate.
01:08:29
James
And they've already said absolutely not.
01:08:30
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, but that's like a symbolic
01:08:31
James
They've already said no.
01:08:35
James
No, that's not true.
01:08:35
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
that's That's a token vote. That's not the real vote.
01:08:39
James
But it'd be really stupid to say he is unqualified and he should not be in this position. And I do not support him. I am not voting for him to even be considered for this because he is not qualified for the job at all.
01:08:50
James
And then turn around and vote for him. That doesn't you're not going to
01:08:53
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
That sounds like exactly what I would expect from a Republican.
01:08:56
James
No, I would expect the Republicans to do well.
01:09:00
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Like I saw a guy. I saw a guy. It was like a, it's like Jim Acosta. He was talking to some senator. He was a congressman. I can't remember. I think it was like Tom Cotton or something. I can't remember what the guy's name was. I'm going to get it wrong. I'm just guessing throwing out names. But he was he was talking to him about the pardons. And he's like, he's like some of these guys, like, you know, were ah were tasing police officers were like, you know, were the guys who were were convicted of like having
01:09:32
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
logistical plans put in place to like move in ammunition from this one location into here so that there was plenty of ammo for the people taking over like you know people convicted of like uh violent sedition uh you know and plotting sedition and like you know all the like the serious stuff and like this guy couldn't even just say like Yeah, I don't agree with all of the pardons. I think like the violent ones shouldn't have been pardoned. like He couldn't even say that. Like see the the amount of like, I must agree with the leader is like, like not even that much dissent is allowed. Instead, he was like, it it was kind of hilarious because he kept asking the question. He's like, Well, what about this? What about this? Did Biden do this? what Did you guys cover when when Biden didn't do blah, blah, blah? What about but about the Antifa? what What about the Black Lives Matter? Are those guys in jail? Did you talk about that? And I'm like, I'm sitting here and I'm like, he should ask him, like like, are you interviewing me or am I interviewing you? Because it was just so ridiculous.
01:10:54
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah, but like, you know, I felt like I felt a little nervous. I felt like, uh, like excitement because I knew we had so much to talk about, but like going through all these things, even just like, you know, list and touching on them lightly.
01:11:10
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Like I feel so much more demoralized than like, like I only knew like 10% of it before I really like dug into the full list. And like, I know that this list is isn't even everything because
01:11:20
James
this is not even this is not everything this is yeah yeah
01:11:24
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
because I knew there were other things that weren't on this list that I knew about. So like, oh my God. It's just so bad.
01:11:40
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
So like, I mean, I guess on the on the bright side, the fraternal order of police ah rescinded their endorsement of Donald Trump. So they finally
01:11:50
James
Who gives a shit, man? Seriously, man.
01:11:53
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
They finally made it to the right side, just a little late.
Make America Healthy Again - Feasibility Questioned
01:12:05
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
But yeah, so like the the maha thing doesn't seem like it's going to be a thing.
01:12:09
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
It seems total. It's already all bullshit.
01:12:15
James
but what Which one would you say? Sorry.
01:12:18
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
The maha, the make America healthy again.
01:12:21
James
ah ah sorry I mean roadkill guy didn't I mean come on man that was never know if you're eating roadkill and and putting plastic bags on your children's heads you know ah that's when they were he cut the whales head off they people found out there they were going to go on a vacation or whatever they found out there was a beached whale on and in the in the area he had to cancel what they were doing took the whole family be like holy shit Mobydix on land and he went home got his fucking chainsaw and
01:12:34
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
oh What was the one where the thing was? yeah What was that? What was that one? What was the one where it was strapped to the to the roof?
01:12:45
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah. Wait.
01:13:05
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Like, why didn't you leave?
01:13:05
James
Kids and family are still in tow.
01:13:06
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
He must have.
01:13:07
James
Ran home, left the car burning, ran to the garage, get a chainsaw back in there. We're going to the beach, kids. Flew to the beach to use a chainsaw and cut the head off of a whale. Imagine the spray and blood, oh my God.
01:13:21
James
Cut the head off a whale on the beach. Bring it over to your, lug this thing over to your car. Put the severed whale head with blood, as they were calling it, whale juice, pouring down everywhere.
01:13:36
James
Strap it down with bungee cords Strap it down with bungee cords Strap it down with bungee cords And when of course you got to crack your windows For the bungee cords to hold this severed whale head on top your car And then you start to drive it home, right?
01:13:36
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I remember like the first time i like I heard all the stories about ah RFK, like I was just dying laughing.
01:13:47
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Of course.
01:13:52
James
And where all the blood from the whale head all the whale juice was flying into the car hitting those children in the face So he put plastic bags on their heads So that you know, they wouldn't get sprayed with with all the whale juice and this was before the election everybody heard him tell this story he was and tell it brain worms yes he thinks he has a brain worm he thinks that's why he talks the way he does now he thinks he got a brain worm from all the roadkill he likes to eat mmm like Julian man my son Julian god he begs for SpaghettiOs all freaking day and ah RFK likes roadkill like Julian likes SpaghettiOs so
01:14:12
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
this and then And then he told the brain worm story.
01:14:37
James
never saw it I mean I've never heard Road Bear ooh Road Bear yeah get it you know anyway who's scraping roadkill off the ground to eat it has some issues man that is not the person you want to make America healthy so
01:14:45
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
a rare delicacy is it is it a rare baricacy oh man okay well so we've survived we've made it through three days and we're still alive free
01:15:06
James
Anyway, god, it's 14 hours in, man. Three days.
01:15:15
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
and making a podcast that I don't know if anyone has seen.
01:15:21
James
Otherwise, it's scenic, because we're still only doing audio. At some point, we're going to start recording video.
01:15:25
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Well, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Heard, I guess is the correct way to say this.
01:15:28
James
Although I didn't do my hair. I'm kind of glad we're only on audio. We'll probably be on video soon. but For right now, it's still nice to not have to worry about how I look.
01:15:40
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
<unk>ll Wait for that. um Wait for it until we get the the subs for the, face reveal. Do a subathon at the midterms.
01:15:53
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Yeah. Yeah, big plans.
01:15:55
James
So mad that Mitt Romney returned.
01:15:55
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
We'll get there. We'll get to um putting in a video clips, cutting up it it into shorts, putting it on the socials, little clips. And um I'm going to try again to get us onto Apple podcasts for all the iPhone users out there.
01:16:14
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Don't have Spotify.
01:16:19
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
All right, any any clothing closing thoughts?
01:16:19
James
Yeah. All right. Well.
Closing Thoughts on Political Climate
01:16:30
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Oh, we're so fucked.
01:16:31
James
That's it. We're all fucked, everybody. We're fucked.
01:16:36
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
We're so fucked.
01:16:38
James
We didn't even talk about all the immigration stuff really. We talked about some of the border stuff, but not all the other, just just so much bad. Whatever. and so It's so much bad. And the only thing I can say is good. I'm actually one thing I can say. Here's closing thoughts. 24 hours before he was inaugurated, I got a ah call from the ACLU.
01:17:01
James
I went ahead and re-upped my membership and went ahead and gave a hundred bucks and got my little card in the mail. So I definitely urge everybody to donate to ACLU, you know, any other groups that are really going to be having to work overtime to stop the worst of what's happening for the next four years.
01:17:20
James
That's what I was saying.
01:17:20
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
ah Sure. This is the way that you can help. If you want to do something, there is the ACLU. There is Planned Parenthood.
01:17:28
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
And next week we should have more, we should have more links.
01:17:29
James
to say to Richard, and
01:17:32
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
And so we should do, we should, we should start coming up with some ways to help.
01:17:32
James
say let me say rest in peace to Cecile Richards awesome woman gone brain cancer and Richard's daughter Cecile Richards who ran Planned Parenthood for a long long time you've seen her blonde hair you know um if you Google or he'll see a picture of her yeah yep
01:17:45
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
I don't know who that is.
01:18:02
James
And, uh, oh, I didn't know that. I didn't see that. Right-wing activist celebrating the death of, of her.
01:18:08
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Oh, you know, Trump put the on on an inauguration day, he raised the flags back to full staff, by the way.
01:18:19
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
and can't put the flags can't fly the flags at half staff for 30 days to honor a former president who didn't like you so just the pettiness knows no bounds yeah all right make sure to meditate sleep hydrate it's going to be a marathon folks
01:18:45
James
Yeah, that's it. And if you're in a state where marijuana is legal at night, kids are in bed. Probably not a bad idea to unwind a little bit at night because can't get it too riled up every single day. You need a little whatever your outlet is. Stay happy. Try.
01:19:11
GABRIEL ZIEGLER
Alright, that's it folks.
01:19:11
James
That's all I say. Yep. ah Good night.