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Boy Moms Do Better

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Speaker: So, hello, welcome back to Boy Moms. Labor Day weekend is over. Labor again. Time for business. yeah, so we just came from dropping off our kid at, what do you call it, daycare or preschool, whatever. Childcare center. The place where he goes during the day. The place where he is kept. Yeah.

Speaker: ah Yes. um Actually, my husband made a joke because I was like, he's so much – he seems better behaved now. And I'm like, I wonder what they did. and my husband was like, well, they say that like criminals – Criminals commit less crimes in prison.

Speaker: and I was like, why are we comparing it to prison right now? That's so depressing. For him, it's prison. can't leave. He's trapped. But it's not technical. School is actual school is more like prison. Right, yeah. Because you have to go. I wrote a poem in fourth grade about yeah how it was like jail. Yeah. I said jail, prison. would been on board with this poem when I was in fourth grade Oh, yeah yeah. We should have run away together.

Speaker: And I said the teachers sounded more like preachers. That one i remember because it rhymed. No, we got to go with them. You know, what happened today was we're friends with the security guard um because she's also a comic. And she texted me that the dad that we had stopped to chat with. Wait, the security guard of your son's prison is also a comic? Yeah.

Speaker: I don't trust a comic to keep the Jews safe. Are you kidding me? They won't be, but it's on brand, if nothing else. Does she have gun? No. She doesn't have a gun.

Speaker: No. No. And my husband was like, should I get her a gun? was like, no. He will leap at any opportunity to get someone a gun. I know, just wants to get a gun. Is there someone who needs a gun? Let's go. Let's go. Let's go to North Hollywood where all the guestos are.

Speaker: There was one morning actually during lockdown where I woke up and I looked at him and I was like, maybe we need a gun. And he was like, finally. And I was like, no, no, no, I didn't really mean it. like i He was already out of bed. He was getting his shorts on. I've been spiraling because there was a lot of like scary TikToks about food shortages. There always are. I mean, right now there are some because of El Nino. But anyways, I digress. So the story is we always chat with our friend, the comic who's supposed to keep everyone safe. Yeah.

Speaker: We hope. um And she texted me after that the dad that we had stopped to chat with was the dad that all the teachers call the hot dad. And my husband was like. That's why you're chatting with him. And he was like, this is a horrible way to find out that I'm not the hot dad.

Speaker: music Well, at the park, a more eccentric look is appreciated. But the the the thing with the park is that the taste is more, yeah you know. eclectic. I don't agree. different Like conventionally attractive isn't hot to me. And I think a lot of people would agree. A lot of women specifically would agree with. Yeah. Women want men to like write songs about them or like sensitive. It's how you feel when you're with them. Connect emotionally. Yeah, it's not just – being ripped. No. And the ripped part is like if you're too ripped, it's like, yeah like yeah is that your only hobby? Right. and but Well, they don't feel as human. They they also feel less heterosexual. Yeah. as theyre I think you need to be prettier than

Speaker: The guy you're with? The guy, yeah. I don't know. I feel like me and my husband kind of look alike. You're equally pretty. We look like – We just both look like giant babies. If we shaved our heads. is also a thing that people go for people that they look – I know many couples. Who look alike. Where they look alike. Oh, yeah. Not me and my husband.

Speaker: Well, you both have those piercing blue eyes. heres no Wait, so your husband – He's not the hot dad. I guess. And I'm like, that guy's the hot dad? Like, is that who they're – does he look like? Normal. Just like all the other dads. It did not stand out to me.

Speaker: i don't know. Brown hair? Gray. Gray hair. it's the one I'm thinking of. There was also another dad. There was another dad that said hi also. And I'm like, maybe a sad dad because he's a little younger. You talking to him.

Speaker: Yeah, we stopped. The other one said hi. They're both dads of kids in our kids' class. So there were two dads that we said hi to. So I'll need to ask her to specify. Okay. I think one of them is is gay. there's like There's like a few gay couples of kids and in our kids' class.

Speaker: um but And I haven't figured out who is and who isn't. Honestly, like it's all just like a medley of people that seem more successful than me. Also that we got a comment.

Speaker: on TikTok that I was gonna read. um curious to know your thoughts. Maybe it's better because you'll react in real time. like It's interesting. i did There's a lot going on. okay Ladies do better. i hate First of all, the way that starts is just, is that that is a rage bait way to start a comment. oh this is Oh, I don't know. I can check after.

Speaker: Y'all have no idea how or why postpartum psychosis develops, and it's clear you've done no research. That part is true. yeah Not for me. Let me help you. Okay, Paige is done research. Women getting cerebral spinal fluid leaks from epidurals and spinals and spinals.

Speaker: And doctors, assume it says, are not informing them or fixing them. This is very specific. It is. I don't think this is a i don't think there's an epidemic of what they're describing. But this is what the internet gives an impression of this sometimes.

Speaker: They see one TikTok and then because of the algorithm, it turns into seven TikToks. Yes. It turns into 30 TikToks and then epidemic. And then suddenly vaccines aren't safe. They're letting women... Oh, wait.

Speaker: Doctors are not informing them or fixing them. They're letting women walk out of the hospital with a CSF leak ah because they don't want to be held accountable for creating it.

Speaker: Every spinal gives a woman a cerebrospinal fluid leak. Botched epidurals are another way it can happen. Lindsay Clancy had a botched epidural. She wrote about it in her journal.

Speaker: Doctors hope the CSF leak self-heals and closes, but not all do, especially if a woman has a head slash heads. CSF leaks create physical and mental illness.

Speaker: PPD plus CSF leak equals PPP. This is really... like A lot of acronyms that we're all expected to know. Postpartum... that No, I think postpartum psychosis. Psychosis. Yeah, they're saying this plus the and this equals this.

Speaker: It could happen any woman who gets an epidural or a spinal. When women... stop getting epidurals slash spinals, then or there will be much less postpartum psychosis.

Speaker: Education equals empathy. ah Yeah, what do you think of that? Education equals empathy. I mean, this person is just down the rabbit hole. I mean, she's saying nobody should get epidurals. Which, you know, I do have my own thoughts about epidurals that I don't.

Speaker: What are your thoughts? I mean, I had a bad reaction to an epidural, but I didn't get postpartum psychosis from it. What happened? I just, I passed out.

Speaker: that's too strong. can That can happen. Even though I didn't even feel it that much. If I did it again, I would do no epidural. I say that, but. Yeah. Because the second time, i think I was trying to not get one. And then you got one. And then I got one.

Speaker: ah So probably you would get one. Yeah. i try I don't know. But because of the – because I didn't have anything bad happen as a result of the epidural that I know of. I was so deep in psychosis I didn't even know maybe the first time.

Speaker: And so – The second time, because there were negative effects. Well, we had some scary stuff from that. I mean, like, yeah there were the cause problems it lowered the baby's heart rate. yeah And then everybody would run into the room. Did that happen to you?

Speaker: That happened the first time, but that was because they induced. Oh, no. wasn't getting induced. So, yeah, the baby's heart gets lowered left and right, it seems. But they make a big deal about it. I didn't let them give me any, what's the induction stuff?

Speaker: Uh... The stuff they keep trying to give you the whole time you're there. Pitocin. Pitocin, i was like and I was trying to avoid the Pitocin. i was scheduled to get induced because I was at 41 weeks. So I was just trying to go into labor. So I just went and got the weird salad. and like I was just like eating anything anybody said, get put them in labor. None of it works. No, one of them worked. it didn't work. You were already due to have a baby. Maybe. Or it was the eggplant Parmesan from Jaguaras.

Speaker: People, any excuse to buy something. I don't like eggplant, okay? But the nightshades have been said to help. Because you were already supposed to be in labor. Or.

Speaker: But I was in very slow labor for a long time. Like, I had painful contractions for. That's common. Yeah. Especially for the first. 60 hours. Not that common. That's rough.

Speaker: Yeah. But the first one's usually. But I got epidural. After two days, i got an epidural. I was always planning on getting epidural. I had no plan to brave it out. um And once they understood that the epidural lowered his heart rate, they knew to just give a bolus right away or something like that.

Speaker: I don't really, I'm not medical professional, obviously, but they knew like what to do to prevent that. They just had to like know that I had, that's the kind of reaction I was having. But ah yeah, I don't know. I mean, would I have birthed him sooner without the epidural? I don't know. It's hard to say.

Speaker: But ended up getting the C-section anyway. Because the epidural can slow it down. Yeah, that's the question is like, is that what slowed it down? You know? And that happened to me the second time. It did. It slowed it down. And then they're trying to get Pitocin. And to me, so to me, the anti-epidural stuff is more about just being anti any intervention because it always seems to cause more problems.

Speaker: The interventions cause, so getting the intervention known as the epidural. Yeah. Causes the need for an intervention of the Pitocin. Or the C-section. Keeps going. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker: Well, it's just they're just scared. I mean, because the stats of childbirth without intervention theoretically aren't great. Or I don't know. I don't know the stats. I don't think so. Well, it depends. Well, like pre-modern medicine. like But like if you're just if you are in a hospital, but you don't get any interventions. But I feel like they just won't let you not get any interventions. feel like they don't want you in labor too long at the hospital. They want to get you out. They have some kind of time limit for the labor room or something going on with that. Yeah. Or they're going home. Yeah. The doctor really wanted me to take Pitocin. And then another nurse came in and was like, you don't need Pitocin. They tried over and over with the Pitocin and I kept saying no. And thank God I did because my contractions were going really fast by the end. Oh, it would have been. Yeah.

Speaker: It would have been very bad. like and but the problem with me is that I wasn't dilating. That was what they were worried about. so it's like the contractions were really fast, but I wasn't dilating. and they wouldn't happen yeah we made it this far you made it this far they wouldn't admit me because i wasn't dilated the first time we went we came home for another 12 hours before i did that but then when i got that bedrural i was like this is the best thing i've ever felt in my life yeah because you were high two days yeah and i didn't realize oh i get back on drugs i didn't realize they put fentanyl in there this was your chance I thought they were just numbing it. Like, I didn't know there were also drugs. No, they don't make clear.

Speaker: They do not take it clear. They do make it They do not. Which is crazy. it is crazy. They don't tell you what's in it. Because I would have said, like, I'm, you know, I don't take drugs. Yeah. Yeah. But because the first time we got there, she was like, do you want do you want some fentanyl? Like, she was like. But that is what the epidural is. She was like, it'll just be like a couple margaritas. Like, is what she said.

Speaker: Yeah. like no i don't want that look what just to make you less annoying yes i think it's the the less annoying factor i don't know one obviously ah as we know i've done zero research on this i was researching a lot this is a very niche thing this person has went down a rabbit hole yeah yeah and i wish them all the best i think they need to uh get off the internet sunshine and talk to people.

Speaker: It's also interesting when people have fixated on something like this from the internet and then accuse you of doing no research when they have just like totally made one tiny little statistic way bigger than it actually is. And then it sucks because it's hard to take it seriously. I thought someone would have a good some good constructive criticism, which I would have been open to, but that never seems to happen. it starts off that way. When she starts talking about spinal leaks, you're like, okay, maybe, you know, that's something I've never heard of, you know, but...

Speaker: I mean, the main thing with the birth that I was really grateful for is that I had taken a breastfeeding class while I was pregnant because nobody told me to try breastfeeding immediately after giving birth.

Speaker: And if I hadn't taken that class, I wouldn't have known. And that's what I think made it so easy. Yeah, I think there's not enough. Well, because we're just not naturally, we wouldn't need a class if we were just around babies all the time and other mothers were living in village. But breastfeeding, like the mechanics of it are not intuitive. or They weren't for me. like Like that you have to like, and like the angle, like, you know.

Speaker: um But they offered a free class at Huntington. I just pretended like I was giving birth there and took the free class. It was good on Zoom. um

Speaker: So this is that. Yeah. what else do you have about? i mean, those are my. way I wanted to say something about your child. so I have some things to say. Oh, wait. So he behaves better in prison.

Speaker: Well, that's what my husband's better at home. He's in general. That's not when he's in prison, though. I think he just hit like some new milestones and it coincided with starting this program. I don't think it's like, in my opinion, it's like he's getting older. Like, so he's changing. that I think he'll get annoying in different Yeah, but he's he seems less, um i don't know how to describe it, like like easily agitated, guess. He didn't, the last time we were all at the park together.

Speaker: He was pretty good. He was still trying to play with other people's toys. Yeah, but he wasn't impulsively hitting or That's the thing. That stuff is really – and I'm like, what are they doing there? Or did he just move on from that? yeah It's hard to say. you might never know.

Speaker: um I definitely will never know. It's always – it's a problem if they're doing that stuff at this at school compared to at home. Acting out at school – Is the bad one? – means that you the home is troubled. Oh.

Speaker: Acting out at home – I guess means. I don't get a clear answer. Every day I'm like, did he hit people? Did he fight? how do they say What do they say i say? They all do it. Oh. I think that's a pretty clear answer. I'm like, okay, so he is. like Right?

Speaker: That's good. They're not explicitly lying to you. observing him, yeah, I know. But I'm like, but are we are we should we be worried? like I hope they would tell me if it was something I would i should be worried about. I don't know, you know? But when I went- far does he go? Like when I've observed him on the playground, just me,

Speaker: Compared to when I would go with him before, he seems way less aggressive than what I was witnessing days leading up to him going to this school. Like, of like grabbing things and freaking out. And yeah. So it's like, he has he from what I've seen with me, he's improved.

Speaker: um School obviously is still a mystery. i know they made challah one week. Like, I get like little... things but one time they were like I don't think he ate much of his lunch and I opened it and it was empty like I was like you might have been thinking of someone else right they might mix them up I mean there's other curly boys you know oh they're right yeah yeah um but generally he's he's like once I worked out the nap thing and told him like you don't have to nap if you don't want to you can play quietly everything's been much better

Speaker: Okay, so they figure that out. I talked to them. Yeah. And they said like it's early, but yeah, he can, if he doesn't want to nap, he can play, they can give him a quiet activity and that's fine.

Speaker: You know? So once I communicated that to him, i think the scary thing was that he felt like he had to nap. Yeah. Like it was a coercion. um But now he's just like, okay, we sleep at school and then mommy comes back. like He's like getting used to like the rhythm of – and then I always come back. like you He says that. I mean, if it does make me sad, but but he goes in fine. He's like happy to go there now. So he's excited to go. Yeah. No, I wouldn't say excited, but there's no resistance. There was no resistance today. Okay. Yeah, did it was a three-day weekend. I didn't know. Three-day weekend felt perfect. like I'm like, if maybe we should just –

Speaker: You don't have to go every day. We don't have to. i mean, and like, yeah, we don't have to So, and that felt nice because then it's like we had time as a family. we had time individually with him. Like,

Speaker: Yeah, right. It's like a good amount of combinations. Yeah, good amounts of um being together. But things feel generally good. And i I mean, the difference I've noticed, obviously, is just in me that I feel less like rage underneath everything. Like I'm like calmer.

Speaker: Well, you have a lot of time. Yeah. How did you spend? When I'm less like, so like all constant, you know, is I mean like it's hard. i mean the the, the amount of solo parenting I was doing every day, like eventually. And some people don't like, you seem more adjusted to it than me, but like I just was, was going zero to a hundred a lot faster before. and now I'm like, okay, I can like,

Speaker: And also zero. We watched one movie as a family. we do once a week and that's it. We watched Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Oh, that's one. And it was great. Yeah, it was great. Did he like the ant? You like the ant, the giant cookie. Like there's a lot of fun stuff in it. And it's like, it's actually the perfect because it's like a little scary, not too scary. You know, like fun characters. It's good for interaction. Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah. We talked about it while we watched it. And it's like fun for everyone, that type of movie. Yeah, yeah. That's a good kind of movie to watch. I wish there were more like that. they're mostly really bad.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah. Like Flubber or like what else is there? a movie like, oh yeah, Flubber. But are those movies good? Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Honey, I Shrunk the Kids is really good. And like I like live action, you know.

Speaker: Yeah, i mean they certainly don't make them like they used to. Just like a good live action family movie. Yes, and it was definitely like stop motion. It was fun. like the graphics like The special effects were really cool and fun.

Speaker: No, that's to me the ideal as someone who is so anti-screens, obviously. That is movie. It was great. much Yeah, I recommend.

Speaker: give you an A. Ah! Not A+. So what do I have to do around here? A+, would be you just sitting and you're trading parts with Shakespeare, okay there Actually, I read a comment. and I think it was on TikTok. She was like, I'm a child care provider, whatever. I like i nanny, basically.

Speaker: And the kids that have zero screen time, um there was a kid, a four-year-old had arranged life forms in his room according to Biosphere. I was like... That's not the zero screen. Like, i agree that screen time isn't great, but, like, that is a particularly, like, science-oriented genius child. That's like every kid would be doing that. like But you have more time?

Speaker: You do? That's ah the thing. Okay. She was like, the only books they have in their rooms are encyclopedias. I was like, that's going far. That's going too far. Like... How old are the kids? but Two and four or something like that. like I mean, it seems like it'd be better to more books around so you have other options. Yeah, and learn a bit about narrative structure. like The two-year-old can't be reading an encyclopedia.

Speaker: i don't know. That's what I'm saying. I mean, everything I read about the screen stuff, the most crucial thing seems to be that they're not doing other things during the time when they're – it's not about – it's not just about what they're watching, how it's affecting their brain. It's about what they could be doing instead. That they're missing all this time of playing. Yeah, playing or reading or whatever. Yeah, and that could have been some of it with my kid that he was just a bit understimulated and now he's getting the right amount, you know, and I wasn't providing that.

Speaker: You weren't – because you were watching – Yeah, I was like – we were like watching Frozen in the afternoons or whatever. Yeah. You know, because I was burnt. I was just burnt out. ah And I do miss snuggling with him and watching Frozen. But this is better for him in the end than sitting with me on the couch.

Speaker: Likely. I don't know. Although we did notice that I'm not sure we can go to the playground after school because he doesn't go to bed when we do that. and the Oh, he gets too hyped? Yeah, he needs a lot of home time to be able to go to sleep after school.

Speaker: Yeah. Which sucks because I love that playground. Well, you guys just stayed there too long. stayed so long. And there was a rabbit. There was too much happening. Oh, the bunny.

Speaker: came with the bunny. But it wasn't just that day. I said the bunny is here. Time to go Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but it wasn't just that day. We've done a few days of going after. Okay, what if you leave by 5? yeah Yeah, we could try it. gotta leave earlier. It's hard. it's It's hard to leave because he's having fun. got home like half an hour later. Like Mike was like where all of the food had had aluminum foil in it. Oh God. It's housewifey. like, there was a bunny. I burnt dinner. Like I...

Speaker: No, you just got to leave earlier. You guys are there for a while. You know, it's hard to leave once we're there because we're having fun. like And what what if we leave? We'll try to leave with you because I also don't. We also lose track of time. I mean, i have I know people hate when people say this, but I have major time blindness. So it's like I'll just lose track. Oh, time flies when you're having fun. Yeah. Or when you're just, you know, me.

Speaker: So what? Okay. so screen time. Okay. ah The latest. Yes. In school. Which I wrote about in my, did you read my sub stack? I did. I did. Yeah, it was emailed to me. was in the email this time. it's there. Okay. It doesn't always happen. It doesn't always happen. I could look into that. um Maybe I have email blindness. So weird. I have blindness about everything. Except for what the things like I get.

Speaker: ah So Thursday, at school, they watched, well, it was reported that he watched a video about kindness and involved the word ripple.

Speaker: So I searched YouTube kindness think I searched kindness ripple and it was the first or second video. And he confirmed that that was it. And I was like, this is the most atrocious video ever seen. was all just the sloppiest AI slop you could possibly imagine. and I mean, you saw it. I didn't watch the video. I just saw little frames with the big eyes. Right. Yeah. I can't even, it's like they're round on both sides.

Speaker: And it's marked. It's funny. says I didn't realize it's marked as AI on like YouTube.com. It's clearly AI. And they're just like, no problem. whoever Whoever decided on that video. So we freaked out about the video.

Speaker: My husband immediately emailed the principal. She tried calling him. He doesn't answer his phone. And then he... So but she emails and says this... I think there was some misunderstanding. Like I think this...

Speaker: I don't think this video was shown as part of the social emotional learning curriculum today. oh she denied it at first. She initially was like, I mean, maybe to give her some credit, like, but she's like, this couldn't possibly have been shown his class. Like, he must be confused. So in that habit, I was like – to my kid, like, are you sure it was this And he's like, yes, yes, yes, yes. yes um And he's pretty reliable about that stuff. But I didn't, I even, I messaged a few other parents and they all confirmed. That's how i found out i was watched twice. Twice? You didn't have to show it twice. Like I know it was in the slideshow. So the the principal followed up later and said, oh no, this was, this video was embedded in the slideshow that is sent over from LAUSD headquarters the social emotional learning department.

Speaker: a So they have to do it. So they it. It's part of the curriculum. I mean, I do wonder if they're... Are they getting... Is this AI slop company getting money from LAUSD to create these videos? It almost seems like it. It does. But it's some very...

Speaker: It's just such a rinky-dink YouTube channel though. it's The YouTube channel has seven videos. it It hasn't posted in a year. ah it's just for the curriculum. it's just Yeah. Like what? You think so? I don't know. What's the name of the channel? Your eyes got so big. What's the name of the channel? was like...

Speaker: Is it L-A-U-S-C-A-I? it' it was It doesn't tell you anything. Remember, it does evoke God, so there's some god Christian connection. Uh-oh.

Speaker: What was the company called? mean, this does go to my theory of that that robots are domesticating us. Velvet Grain Kids is the name of the YouTube channel.

Speaker: Yeah, that image I saw. That's scary. Yeah. Can you see that? Whoa. it's Basically, let's describe it for the listeners. it's a there are You know, there are always errors in ai ah configuration. like so there were And there were errors throughout the video. Like the signs in the classroom, like just don't.

Speaker: There's no words. It's like weird letters. yeah It makes you feel crazy. And then at the end of the video, it says, the end or us beginning with all the gathered around this. So it's kids. So it's basically like you're looking at the backs of children in the shadow facing like the sunset, but the sun is a heart and also kind of drone-ish. Like it has like, like light coming out of the bottom of it, twisting around and the kids are all raising their hands, just one hand.

Speaker: Up at the heart sun. And then it says the end or us the beginning or us beginning or i even beginning. And one of the kids has like a blanket, what a piece of paper.

Speaker: So these are all, I don't even know if they're consistent characters. is It was about the ripple effect of kindness and how one kid didn't have his lunch and so someone, and another kid shared a sandwich with them. Oh, are they not supposed to share food? I know. With no concern for allergies. What about, yeah, allergies or dietary restrictions?

Speaker: So this is quite ah quite a scandal that ah this is coming from the top down. As I said in my sub stack, AI slops right from the top. Also like in in such a city as LA with all these talented writers, creators, children's writers, animators.

Speaker: Well, so what's the next step? they They said- So the principal said that she would connect me She said something like, this is an opportune time for feedback. so Okay. Because they're going to have some kind of a conference or something? i No, I think – I don't know if she's just going to give me someone's email address. Okay.

Speaker: But she said I should provide feedback on the videos that are being included, which is funny because like I'm not even supposed to know about it. Right. My kid just happens to be mole is telling me everything. God knows what he hasn't told me about But he just happened like having the word ripple because he's a vegan child who drinks ripple the time. Oh, ripple. That's the best milk replacement. I also like ripple. But that's why he remembered it because he's ripple. Ripple. But yeah, if you're lactose intolerant, ripple is the to worth that, yeah. Because you actually get nutrients. What is next? And your husband also got upset and said maybe he'd pull him out or like –

Speaker: threatened to, but now it's so, it's just when it was the teacher or even just the principal, it felt like, and I, yeah I, see I did feel like I made progress yeah with the, with the teacher. now you have to go further. But now I'm like, i have to go to the top. i imagine it's just someone who works, some like intern who works in the ah SEL department who added the video. Like that's, and don't even get me started on SEL curriculum in general. SEL. Yes. Stands for. Social emotional learning. Oh, yes. No, I was thinking about this when I read your article because we also had stupid stuff in elementary school. We had read a program called Conflict Resolution.

Speaker: Did you have that? Uh, But it was like, I was like, this is not like basically what I remember of it, what it boiled down to was there were two kids whose parents I think were going through messy divorces or something was going on. So they were freaking out at school.

Speaker: So they would be like put on display for all of us Really? Because they were like fighting with each other. And so they'd like have them have a rapprochement of like them being working it out, and that was conflict resolution. i don't like that. It was so bad.

Speaker: was so bad. And it was also like- seems so exploitative. Yeah, it wasn't on purpose. It was just when conflict would come up, we'd all like- use principles of conflict. is This is my obviously thwarted memory, like, because it's years and years years ago at this point. But from what I remember, it was like, can we try to talk about it? I don't even remember what, there are probably like different things you implement to like resolve conflict without throwing, because they would like throw things at each other basically.

Speaker: In what grade? I think it was like fourth grade. Like they were like – One of them threw a chair at the principal. Whoa. And he now I think works for like a large weapons manufacturing company.

Speaker: Well, things fall into place. I mean, I remember him drawing tanks in elementary school. That's beautiful. His dream came true. It his dream. Yeah. Yeah. But it's depressing. I mean, that feels like it should just happen naturally. Without an audience, you know?

Speaker: Yeah, no, for sure. and No, but that's the thing. It's like when you take stuff like this and make it a program that we're selling to district. Everything is medicalization. It's just like we were talking about with the Lindsay Clancy stuff.

Speaker: Yeah. Where if you use the therapeutic language with everything – then it's just like everyone is mentally ill. Everything is medicalized. Everything is a problem. Everything needs to be categorized. I think it's like when you sell it as a program, there's something that sounds uniquely sociopathic about that because it's like this is stuff you learn through experience. Right.

Speaker: And interacting with people that have had life experience. Yes, but then being like we have a numbered program, ABC 123, How to Be Nice. With the slop videos, be kind. Kind is And then they all talk about it. And I guess my kid was like, I didn't learn anything from those videos. No, you learn from feeling. like experience yeah not From it. Yes.

Speaker: from didactic videos. Maybe people who do have stunted empathy need stuff like this. I just don't know what percentage of humanity that is. Right. It seems like a low number. It can't be as low as we think because clearly people like that are thriving.

Speaker: so she's like the the SEL program is very effective and that's why all the kids at the school are so kind. I'm like, I think, I think the kids at the school are so kind because that for the most like children are naturally pretty kind. They're just say pretty kind. yeah And you know, it's a We know a lot of parents who live in this neighborhood. We know like the vibe of the parents who live in this neighborhood. Yeah. And yeah, but I would expect the kids to be overall think so pretty kind with even without the AI slot. Well, you can't. It's like, it what is it? Co, what is it?

Speaker: When things happen at the same time, correlation is not causation. Yeah. You do you can't prove that. Right. And we don't know why the kids are kind. Like. Yeah. Was there a big difference?

Speaker: Because she hadn't she hasn't been at the school long enough. Oh, she is it? No, no. And the principal also hasn't been in school long enough. So you'd have to ask someone at the school who's been at the school for 20 years, have you noticed a difference in how kids treat each other? Even then there's a subject-object relationship where it's like that person's gotten older, you know, and they've changed their perspective. Like it's like – Right. Yeah. It's just not quantifiable. Yeah.

Speaker: But it to me, it seems like – it does seem like a waste of time. think that stuff should also – like if anyone's going to be teaching them Danny Tanner-style lessons about this stuff, it should be me or Mike. Like, you know, it should come from the parents. You just want them to hire you. No, from their own parents. Oh, at home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: i don't cause i don't like Do I agree philosophically with what they're saying in these videos created by robots? What was the message in the end? like Just share if somebody needs something. If you're kind to a person, they'll be kind to another person. Why can't you just learn that by it?

Speaker: because it's and it's like What is that movie with the paperclip? where he trades Where he trades things for bigger things? i don't know. We'll come back to that. can't remember what it's called. I just remember that I cried at the end and then the lights came on at the theater and I was like, I have been duped by this movie. Like, this is the most trite bullshit movie I've ever seen. loved it. But I was sucked in. Something like the paperclip.

Speaker: Paperclip theory or something like that? The paperclip question? got to look it up. It's a dream. No, this was real. This is real was real. was real.

Speaker: ah Yeah, so it's it's hard because I have so many problems. ah I don't like the AI slop, but I also just disagree with the SEL curriculum as it is anyway, you know? Right. Well, and that might be that might be a political thing. I mean, I think the question is also who's mandating, first of all, the curriculum?

Speaker: Is it state or is it city or is it, who is it? Right. Is it the school board? Like. Yeah. It seems like people seem to be saying you need to go to the school board. Okay.

Speaker: So. And I told you, you should watch pump up the volume for inspiration. Yeah. So I go to the school board to say that this is what is like you guys all voted to have this curriculum. Yeah. Yeah. But did you no know that this is what is going into it? Yeah.

Speaker: this is the result. And was it a salesman? Like, it's like some of this stuff is like, they get kickbacks for selling curriculum. Because they're just trying to make money. Not just, what's that guy from Shark Tank?

Speaker: ah But he sold ah the, hooked on phonics or whatever. Like, that's how he made a billion dollars. Like, you can make insane amounts of money selling stuff like that. Yeah, with education stuff. Yes, government cheese, yeah as we said. As you said. Yeah.

Speaker: So, yeah, it should be bottom up and not top down. And that goes for every sector, in my opinion. But we know this. There's just no, like, what do we what do? we do We can't get them to stop making these deals. Seize the means production. You've got to run for, obviously, for school.

Speaker: For the school board. Yeah. um You and Mike, so you have two seats. Okay. That way you have like a block people have to get. Do that? I don't know. i don know Who's going to watch our kids? I mean, me and my husband have different last names. How would they know?

Speaker: Maybe we'll get one of you guys. Yeah. Maybe us. We should just get all the park parents to get to get and vote as a block. And the whole school board will be just dominated. I mean, that's what you this way I did with student council in high school is me and all my friends.

Speaker: We got to pick what the dances would would be like. All right. Stay tuned, guys. I'm running for office. Announcing it right here. Paige Mom Donnie Pearl.

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