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Speaker: We're doing episode. No-cut. So everything we say, you've got to hold back. I know what you want to say. And be used against us in a court of law. God. All right. Never mind. We're going to. You wanted me to talk about Trader Joe's. Yes. Does this have to do with being a boy mom, though? I mean, I think grocery shopping is a huge component. Boy moms love Trader Joe's, right? Moms love Trader Joe's. I don't really go to Trader Joe's. Well, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: but so So it was a rare thing. i was going to Trader Joe's to buy food for my kid's emergency food kit. That he has to get for school. Yes.
Speaker: Yes. We to fill a gallon bag of with emergency food. Granola bars, dried fruit, that sort of thing. Water? No. No water. What are they going to do for water? Wait. I'm going to have to suck it out of the dry fruit. Was this a project for class was this something you have to have? this is real. If there's an earthquake. Because Mike said he did this when he was a kid too. Because I never did this when I was a kid.
Speaker: No, I never did this. So apparently it's an earthquake thing. But what about the water? I thought water is like number one thing you die about. Well, they have a faucet with water for long time. Those like things to cut himself out of the room or whatever. He gets trapped under rubble.
Speaker: Yeah, they all have to bring in a pair of, what do they call them at the fire station? The spreader? Spreader? Spreader. Sounds dangerous virus-wise.
Speaker: So I went to Trader Joe's for the first time in a long time. Now, we should preface this by saying that the notorious thing about Trader Joe's in l L.A. is that the parking lots are horrible cesspools of hell. Yeah, and i think it's hilarious. My mom will be like, oh, yeah, ours is bad, too. Oh, come on. Arizona. Yeah, I don't think so. It's not. It's...
Speaker: It's not. It's a different world. And it's the Trader Joe's. I think it's like one of the worst ones. But it's weird. i don't know. They're all bad in LA. But the other grocery stores have reasonably sized parking lots.
Speaker: The parking lot was not the problem. Okay. It was when we were inside. it was all if it was all fine. It wasn't too crazy when we got there. And then we were milling about. i was spending a long time reading the ingredients on – c Cliff bars for Trader Joe's. Were you with your kids? Yeah. Yeah. So they were sitting in the car. Kind of. I put them in a spot. I was very aware. Because the main thing about walking through Trader Joe's when you're busy is you just.
Speaker: So what worked in my favor is that I i wasn't in a hurry. I'm never in a hurry. I never have anywhere I need to be. You were going to come over. with night Yeah. Who cares? fine yeah um That was my big plan for the day. So I'm never in a hurry.
Speaker: And. ah So the placement of the shopping cart. And the placement of the shopping cart. So no one can get mad at you. And i found a I was really proud. It was like in front of the some cabbage.
Speaker: it was like no one is buying cabbage at Trader Joe's, okay? And they shouldn't. Do you eat purple cabbage? they should No one's getting that from Trader Joe's. Their produce is notoriously awful. Some of it's good. You keep saying this yeah and you're – wrong um strawberries are good i wouldn't have been surprised if i ran into you there trying to get that cabbage yeah i like cabbage i like can ma'am can you move your cart so i can access the cabbage so they were there but then as i was reading the ingredients on the granola bars there was a to make sure they're vegan that's why you're doing that
Speaker: um Yeah, I just didn't even know. Cashew, you know, of the allergy. I had to that yeah and to think about so many different things. nuts Nuts is okay. You can bring nuts to regular school. Oh, you can? Yeah. Okay. Just not ah nuts your child's allergic to. Right. um Don't kill your child. Yeah, sure. Okay.
Speaker: So, one parenting but there was, there was a little tussle between a woman with sunglasses on, like a thin, very l a woman with dark hair and sunglasses and she was wearing all black.
Speaker: So she wasn't careful with where she was going. It sounded like sounded like she wasn't being careful with her cart. She's wearing sunglasses. And then she got, I know you can't see where you're going inside when you're wearing sunglasses. I've been debating getting those ones that, you know, have the shade all around. so it feels more like you're, you know, like seniors wear. Oh yeah. is I think maybe it's time for you to think there's yeah to get into that. yeah But I, cause I have prescription sunglasses. So trust me, I would love to just,
Speaker: keep wearing those inside because it's annoying having to trade my glasses out. But then I can't see when I'm inside because it's too dark. No, and your peripheral is almost – Yeah. So, no, you you feel crazy. So, yeah, she couldn't see where she was going. Yeah. And then he said something to her and then he – no, wait. She got mad at something he did and then he called her – believe he called her B-I-T-C-H.
Speaker: And it was very heated. And what did she say? She just kind of kept on walking, but she said something first, but I didn't hear it. And and so he responded to her. i think ultimately I'm going to be on the gay guy's side. Oh, you know?
Speaker: ah So I think he was on the right because the woman was wearing sunglasses. I mean, if she's the one who said something first, then she's likely the instigator. Right. Exactly. Yeah. We just don't know what she said. Yeah, I don't i didn't hear what she said, but he said, no, this was obviously your fault.
Speaker: And then she just kept going. But it got it was very heated. up There a lot of people around. The kids didn't seem to notice it at all. They were busy they were like getting attention from other people in the store. think they're Yeah. Like, aren't you guys so cute? But they broke the unwritten rule of Trader Joe's, which is to be passive aggressive. and not say anything out loud. Yeah, I think that, well, yeah, that's that's the LA thing is usually people are more passive aggressive. Yes. Well, and specifically in Trader Joe's, it's white passive aggressive yeah people who are upset about their lot in life that they're not in Erewhon, but they're dealing with it.
Speaker: I mean, i love, Trader Joe's is cheaper. Like it's the prices, you cannot argue with the prices. Yeah, no, that's why. And that's why for getting what we had to get, yeah it's like we have to go to Trader Joe's for this stuff. Yeah. So that's why we were there. but i Yeah, I think they just have a lot of bottled up emotions. i mean There's a lot. why is it yeah Why is it always Trader Joe's where this stuff is happening? It's crowded-er. More crowded. It's not a word. and ah Definitely not doing that. Oh my God, I see that. But that's what I'm saying. It's same thing with the parking lot. It feels like they're deliberately trying to manufacture. Cause, yeah yeah. They want conflict. It's kind of like how you when you want your show to seem popular, you just book a small room so that it always feels sold out. No, I think they do want to make it feel like it's a thing. Like, yeah, everyone is going there. Yeah, they don't want it to feel big and empty. Like, you know, those other grocery stores are are just voluminous in space, and it's like this weird but elevator music. Like, it's almost made to make it feel like it's empty, and Trader Joe's feels like the opposite. like a – They want it to feel like a scene. Yeah, like you're at the farmer's market or something. Yeah.
Speaker: And people are friendly. I mean, it does seem like a good place to work. I mean, I know. I heard a lot of employee exchanges about what they did this past weekend. I went on a Monday. So I was hearing. And there were a lot of like screenings because a lot of film bros work at okay Trader Joe's. Creatives. Yeah. Yeah. But I liked I liked hearing that.
Speaker: But the OK, the employee who checked us out, though. no No, it was just the the woman before me in line. Yeah. I don't know what they were talking about, but then the employee had to get her Instagram handle, and then she was also giving him her phone number. Ooh. And they were both around the same. They were both older. that a meet cute? That's what I was – I couldn't quite – she wouldn't give him her phone number, like, if she weren't into him, right? She would have just on the Instagram handle. But he said – and he has kids. Yeah. And he said my kids were really cool.
Speaker: He's a very nice, yeah, good guy. Yeah.
Speaker: Actually, I should go there and just thank him for a you know every employee? Yeah, you should. but they're always – No, they make good money, right? And the benefits are good? benefits are good. I know it used to be 25 an hour. It's probably gone up.
Speaker: It's like Costco. like They seem to treat their employees well. So like once you get a job there, you kind of don't leave. Yeah. Also, the thing that a lot of grocery stores have done this and it's ah a little upsetting is like they used to do the restocking at night and now they do it at the same time. That makes it so much harder. It's so much worse. And it's every grocery store. Wait, so why did why did they change? I don't know. i don't know why they changed it. I think it's that they are hiring less people. So people have to do both. Yeah.
Speaker: so So that definitely makes the atmosphere worse at all. That's true. My cousin was like, because I was like, oh, what are you doing? It just sounds like everything. Yes. I thought you were, yeah, like a checker. no or you do the stocking.
Speaker: It's all these companies are doing that now. I mean, like Target, all the grocery stores where it's like they just have to do it all. And it makes the experience significantly worse, like going into the store.
Speaker: Because people don't – like it's like let's say you go into like a Target and you want like help with electronics. It's like those people have like six hats. you Oh, yeah. And they always – you never want to bother them. No, no. They're busy. Asking them to open the case to get a razor or whatever. No, and they're underpaid. Like at least at Trader Joe's, you know they're they're getting paid better and there are benefits. But they're – wait. Is that where Mike had an interaction? We've talked about the Zoomers who – They got nothing going on. Why aren't you buying this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yes. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. I mean, I think it's, yeah, we did talk about that already, but yeah, it's the underpaid aspect. But I think also grocery store specific and Trader Joe's specific, it's the fact that they have to unload produce while people are shopping that is nightmares. No, it sounds like a pain for everyone. It's bad for everyone. Because it's like the people are space. And then people are calling each other the B word inside the store. Well, there's something of a rush. Like I do feel stressed even if I'm not in a rush at the grocery store. I do feel like I want to get in and get out.
Speaker: Like i'm like i'm I'm like I want to get this thing. And if someone's in front of it and I'm waiting, like i just forget it I'm not very patient. yeah Oh, what do you do? I just stand there. Why are you in a hurry?
Speaker: I don't know. I gotta think I'm scared that I'm going to forget what I need to get or like I'm going to – I mean men maybe it's an 80 thing. But it's like if I don't – like my memory can't sustain. So it's like i like you have to think of meet my thoughts like sand running through my fingers. So it's like there's a time limit to how long I'm going to remember to get this yogurt. like So I got to focus on it and get it before the sand comes through my fingers.
Speaker: Because then, and inevitably, I get home and I'm like, I forgot these other two things. even if they're on the list. So would say? Okay, you really, say you really wanted that cabbage. Yeah. There was a carp, two adorable boys,
Speaker: In front of the cabbage? In front of the cabbage. And I'm off over here. yeah You know, there's I'm a couple feet away evaluating the granola bars. What would you – how would you handle it it? depends on my frame of mind. But I'd probably just do the unwritten rule, like I said, of Trader Joe's, of just passive-aggressively standing there waiting for the cabbage. Ugh, you're one of those people. I'd be horrible. See, that's why that's why you do fit in LA, though. I do, yeah. I'm a jerk. Yeah. or is it No, but like i mean i would I think I would be more New York about it.
Speaker: You'd be like, excuse me, can I have a cabbage? I would move the cart. You'd move kids? oh yeah i would be like, I would talk to them. I would be like. Or you'd be like, hey, can you get me a cabbage? Yeah, I would interact with them. I would make it a thing. get scared to interact with other people's kids. That's so weird. I interact with other kids. I love that. mean, I like it, but i don't you feel like it's a bit of a boundary invasion? Like if the parent's not there?
Speaker: I mean, what am I doing wrong? I don't know. I mean, I do it. i' mean, obviously. I'm not going to kidnap them. Right. I'm not going to like hurt them or anything. Yeah. So you say. But why am I even bringing that up? That's a possibility. Why is that your next thought?
Speaker: I mean, but also giving them a task, like hand me the cash. Yeah, that's good. I don't know if would feel comfortable. You don't think you would it? wouldn't. But I'm Canadian. You know, we don't ask for stuff. We just wait and then say sorry. That's why people are creepy. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: Because you never know what you're really thinking. I love maple syrup. Do you have any? had some this morning. Of course I had some. I had some right before I came here. I have in the fridge. Yeah. I mean, it's from Vermont because, you know, I'm not a millionaire and I live in California.
Speaker: okay well, i had a question that comes up a lot on my TikTok that I was wondering what your opinion is. But let's say somebody and it comes up on my threads too a lot. But it's people who are like, ah I don't know if I could be a ah ah mom.
Speaker: How do I decide if it's something I should do or should not do? This comes up, people ask you this question? No, it's just always around. Like people are debating it and they're like, well, can you handle this stressful situation? And then they go into like detail of like watching a kid. But it's like you're totally leaving out any positives. Yeah.
Speaker: Right. That's not a good way to do it. No. Presenting one situation, like one scenario being like, how would you handle it? But what what would be your like- So all encompassing. How would you help someone figure out if they want to have kids or not if they can't figure it out?
Speaker: I think if they're asking the question, then they probably should. Or err on the side of doing it. Err on the side of doing it. if you Yeah. If you are considering it, then I think i think some people are very clear- That they don't. That they don't. Which is fine. And I think that's great. Yes. And it's good that they have that clarity and like – Right, but how – means don't do it. But I think if you're – yeah, if you're – do you get to clarity if you don't feel clear? like I don't know if anyone will ever feel clear. I mean, there are some people who are just like, I always wanted to be a mom. Yes. And then there's people who always never wanted to be a mom. But then for the people in between, it's like –
Speaker: you know, generationally, we haven't really had the choice before. so it's like, there's no roadmap for how to figure that out. It's the most normal thing in the world to do. It's been going on for a long time. But people do regret it. Some people.
Speaker: You love these Reddit threads of people. i think that is a very small number of people. You think? I think it's very, you I think a huge problem is waiting too long and it becomes harder. Yeah.
Speaker: So that is the danger of hemming and hawing. In addition to the physical aspects of it, that can be harder when you're older, course.
Speaker: But, you know, it used to be more common to have kids younger. young. Yeah, but that's just the way your body is made is you're, yeah, you're supposed to start a lot younger.
Speaker: I mean, i'm my grandma had my mom so young. And in a way, I'm very grateful because I've had a lot of time with my grandparents. That's true. I'm very lucky that I still have grandparents yes because of that. And I do think having like multiple generations around at the same time, that does feel right to me.
Speaker: Oh, I think my kid is calling one of his teachers grandma at school. Really? Yes. Because he kept being like, grandma, grandma. And I'm like, I hope she's at least in her 40s. She's I was like, is that what something the other teachers tease her by calling her? Like, I'm like, but I'm not sure. Or maybe she tells him to call him or maybe he's not. But I think he made it sound like he might be doing that.
Speaker: What did he say? He just kept talking about grandma. And I was like, who is grandma? And he was like, oh, it's and he said her name. Oh, and it's just one of the teachers. Yeah. School. Yeah. So i was like, hi, I hope she's not offended.
Speaker: Yeah, i hope she's not 28 years old. She's not None of them are. yeah Yeah, as long as they're at least 40. You can be a grandma. They're all at least in their 40s. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. yeah, no. um multiple Yeah, that's a good argument for having kids young, for sure.
Speaker: but i mean, I'm definitely glad I didn't have a kid at 20 because I was insane. You were insane when you were 20. Oh, yeah. You were probably in college. No, I was in stage. I think I was finishing stage up. Yeah. And then starting university. Yeah. um But I was like just incredibly histrionic.
Speaker: Why? I don't know. Why is anybody? was ah going from theater school to theater school. Like literally. Yeah. I also feel like i feel like when as I've gotten older, I've become more anxious. Like now I'm more scared of going on planes. Like little things like that, i think, were less of a problem when I was younger. And I could see how having, in some ways, having kids younger would be better in terms of neuroticism. But you must feel more – Because then always been around. Do you not feel more mature now than you were? I plateaued. Okay, plateaued. I plateaued at 20. Your personal growth. At 20 years old. I haven't –
Speaker: heaven gotten anywhere you really think so mean that's interesting i mean i i've definitely changed a lot i feel like a completely different person yeah but it's like yeah i met mike when i was 25 i cringe to think about people who knew i got pregnant 29 like i'm yeah even 29 i'm like the people who knew me then like i i truly am like i cringe to think about like what kind of person they think I am. Really? Horrible. Horrible. What were you even doing?
Speaker: Drugs. I know. But like in terms of personal like interpersonal relations. I mean, there was a lot of like um idealization and then not, you know, like like just being with people and then discarding them, let's say.
Speaker: Or getting fixated on, like there was a lot of romantic stuff going on that was not healthy. see. Yeah. And then who knows? I mean, I don't know. A lot of it is like full like hazy for me.
Speaker: But I definitely like wanted attention all the time, wanted to be the center of attention all the time. like and But it's like from whom? like From anyone and everyone. What was your group? Like, okay. So I understand wanting to be the center of attention within your family unit, right? Like when you were growing up,
Speaker: Yeah. But what was that for you? Well, it was just, I would go out and sing at piano lounges a lot. So you want it from like strangers? Yes. Strangers, strangers. I would fixate on like strangers, you know, like.
Speaker: And do you think that's because like you didn't get enough of that from childhood? I mean, that I'm sure there can be many psychoanalyses done of that. I don't know, you know, ultimately.
Speaker: I could do it right now And when I was the youngest, I think there was an aspect of people loving a performance in my home. People love, they... They liked me to put on this show.
Speaker: Okay. So that was rewarded. That was rewarded. There was a lot of like... emphasis on like the wow very impressive that i'm good at musical stuff but that's chicken and the egg it's right well and it seems like that would instill confidence and then you would need attention from well but then there was the adhd factor of like hey why aren't you doing okay in school if you're so smart so there's a lot of that that have to do with the performing i compensating you know Why do you think? Why would someone be chasing a No, that's what I'm trying to figure out. I mean, I also from a young age was like into... I was just histrionic. I'd like imagine if someone read my diary what they would think of me. You know, like a lot of that.
Speaker: Should i read the diary entry? Oh my God. Yes. glad yeah Okay. So for those of you who weren't tuning in This was two episodes ago. Two episodes ago, we memorialized H's birthday on 9-11.
Speaker: um Now, this is a diary entry from the actual 2001 9-11 Paige's birthday. there anything else you want to say about this? I just want for anyone watching, this is the handwriting.
Speaker: Can I see the handwriting? Oh, that that explains a lot. Okay. Yeah. this is okay yeah Okay. Date nine eleven o one i had the worst birthday ever My presents stunk, most of them.
Speaker: In all of both of the parties I had, only six out of 30 people showed up. Whoa. To top it off, today was the day of the attack, probably the first day of World War III. very cursed.
Speaker: I only got 10 presents I already don't have. my My sixth birthday is still the best. Oh. This one stunk.
Speaker: I think what I'm saving up for now is a phone, cable, and other stuff. See ya, and I've never figured out what this says. Your can i see something page. Okay, wait. See ya. Your... How do I zoom in?
Speaker: It looks like It looks like a... Cunist? Cunist? Your. youness It looks like a D, you right? D-U.
Speaker: Or as ah people have speculated in the past that this says your cursed page, but I don't think I would make a C with a line there. You can see the U-R maybe.
Speaker: and then i what is, okay, see ah your, you know Maybe it had to do with something on the next page that we can't read. Hmm.
Speaker: Chris, right? That sort of seems like, see ya, page. I really was convinced. Wait. Oh, and there's also- You're dumb? After the page, there's of it's a smiley face, but it's not smiley. I still use that a It's just a straight line. Yeah, the two dots with a straight line. That's still a favorite emoji of mine. Yeah.
Speaker: Dour. Yeah. It looks – can you show that? I'm sorry. That's how she ends it with that face. nine eleven did not go well for Paige. Me more than anyone. To top it off.
Speaker: It was the beginning of World War III. A lot of people were saying that back then. I mean, now people that really in a way. But, yeah, I was kind of ahead of my time by – My referencing. World War III.
Speaker: It is – I mean, that was a crazy thing to happen for an 11-year-old. This is diary. i read it I read it on my first day at my last job a million years ago. And too. That's the impression. And then so that became like my – Which is better. The previous job I had, all anyone could talk about in relation to me was being vegan. And I found it so annoying because I literally never brought it up. But it was the only thing people could think of to talk to me about. you want a zucchini, Paige? Just like, why are you vegan? Are you a vegan for ethical reasons? And I'm like, yeah, and you're a bad person because you're not. like what do you want me to say? What am I supposed to do? I want to argue. –
Speaker: so For this one, it was having a 9-11 birthday. and That's my an improvement. yeah Yeah. For the vegan thing. Yeah. And it's sort of still, I've kind of been writing that ever since. It's your identity. Yeah. Yeah. Like people in our group, everyone remembers my birthday, which I didn't, I didn't realize most people don't remember most people's birthdays until I had kids and like no one ever remembers their birthdays or they think it's the wrong day or whatever. They're always asking. I remember because you told me it was going to be on Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah. That's the only reason. Yeah.
Speaker: But that's – so, yeah, people don't remember birth, but everyone remembers my birthday. So i get a ton of attention on my birthday, and I always have, and I guess I always will, right? Until people forget. Yeah. Some people say this is the last – Until couple of planes? I think Mike says the 25th is it, and no one's going to care anymore. The 25th anniversary. Yeah. ah When it becomes obsolete, like – But I'm like, we're still around. I don't know. I think it's like, I don't want to say iconic, but I don't think it's like- is iconic. Okay. I just think the image is like, that will live. It's like, I'm trying to think what's the equivalent of the Civil War, but like, there's like things that are like emblematic of a certain time. No, I mean, I'm getting chills just thinking about it.
Speaker: ah And I haven't watched the documentary that just came out that people were talking about. Did you watch it? No, I don't watch sad things anymore. I can't. Sometimes it can be good to think about stuff like that. Why?
Speaker: Put things in perspective. what Just feel like you're part of a bigger thing. A sad thing? Yeah. But it's not good for me. Because i i if I go to like a sad...
Speaker: plane of existence it's hard for me to get out of it apparently there was a plane that was hijacked recently but they fought the people off they did yeah it's the saudi arabian september 30th is that today yeah yeah this happened today I guess so. I saw it on threads. I haven't.
Speaker: The way you consume news too. is You read something that might have actually been a dream and then you bring it up like you know what you're talking about. I'm really representative of our time in that way. but It was really like part heart of a headline that you couldn't actually read the whole thing. It could have been a fake AI. I'll research and get back to you. What else has been going on? I mean, I've been solo parenting.
Speaker: Yeah, I do want to talk about I mean, I feel like I have nothing uplifting to say about that. I mean, I could say that in some ways, solo parenting easier and is easier. There's one less stimulus. We've talked about this. Yes. We talked about it but i don't think we talked about it on the podcast. So it's like it's easier when you know that you're just the one carrying the whole load. so you can just organize your thoughts and tasks around that.
Speaker: Without having to have this, yeah, this like X factor of what's the other person going to do? And then figuring that out. And also there's no, and I don't think you guys are so much like this, but sometimes there's this comparison in my head of like, that where I feel like, if I feel like I'm doing way more than him, I'm i'm pissed and vice versa, you know? Oh. If it doesn't feel even. I don't know everything.
Speaker: I always want to be doing everything. So I know. Yes, that's your type A. So that's different. But it's like when it's two type B parents, it's like we're just always kind of volleying the responsibility back and forth.
Speaker: it Like, here, you carry it. Okay, this is my impression of you. scene watching your kid or like being in your house. Oh, no. um ah Baby, baby.
Speaker: Baby, why aren't you in here? Baby, he's going to be but he's by himself. Baby, I need to go to the bathroom. Yeah. Imagine if you were that anxious all the time. Just picture it for a second.
Speaker: Yeah. um What if he's a alone, Paige? What something happens? OK. What if a book falls on his head and we don't see it? um Yeah, what if? What if? What would happen?
Speaker: What if? If a book fell on his head. and Hopefully nothing would happen. would fend off book. child can handle a book falling on his head. He can handle a lot. I mean, like, I just have OCD intrusive thoughts, so it's like it does feel like the end of the world. So have OCD, intrusive thoughts, ADHD, ADD. What else? I don't have OCD, but I have intrusive thoughts like someone who has OCD.
Speaker: But I've not been formally diagnosed with OCD. It does – it runs in my family, but it's like I think I just got like trace elements. like So it's really just a personality trait, I'd say. um What was the other one? ADHD? ADHD.
Speaker: That one I have. ADD? Wait. ADD is – I don't know what they call it anymore. think it's like they're all ADHD now, but I don't think the age steps hyper. you have dyslexia? No. don't. No dyslexia? No. I've never had that.
Speaker: um What's another – I mean, anxiety, hyperlexia, anxiety. Yeah. I mean, that's, i think generalized anxiety. i think that's a trace to OCD. That's i like, cause it's just basically like you just picture horrible things happening to people all the time all around you.
Speaker: That's, that's the intrusive thoughts. okay So you'll get like a very scary image of like your kid getting like mangled by a car, like just that it hit you if you're turning a corner or so you're scared of a car or something.
Speaker: Something triggers it that's like logically, you know, is not going to hurt them. But like you're picturing their head getting smashed. like But did you think I did a good impression of you Yeah, I think so. We do call each other baby a lot.
Speaker: Baby.
Speaker: And I don't know why. i never planned to call him baby. Like, because he has a name. and I mean, I call my kids pet names. Oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah. Sometimes we pretend to be more Californian. We're like, babe. like a Sometimes you get into babe.
Speaker: but But as jokingly, like, we're like, babe, come on. No, I like hearing what other people call their... I didn't think I would go to baby. Like there's nothing innate about that. My parents didn't do it But you guys are babies, right? It's second nature. Other babies come here. This is a house full of babies. It is. It's the blind leading the blind. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, it's it's not great. It's not great. So you never have – so you never worry about – you would just prefer to take charge and do everything. And then if Mike – well, he always does the cooking, though.
Speaker: Yeah, that's the thing. So you have roles. Yeah, exactly. So i I like to take care of the children yeah um while he's doing the cooking and the cleaning. Yeah. See, um we don't have designations for those. Yeah. So it can get very muddy.
Speaker: because there's not a lot of cleaning that like naturally comes about nagging on his part. Yeah, no. You know, and that can that can wear on you like when when they're around because they're also making a mess. So it's like I'm cleaning up after you and him and me, you know, like and then you get frustrated. like yeah, yeah.
Speaker: But then you can't really – like if somebody doesn't naturally – clean up after themselves at the rate that you want them to, there's kind of nothing you can do about that. Like that's like, it's like their standards are just a little bit lower than yours. Yeah. My standards are definitely lower.
Speaker: Yeah. So it's like that can, it's like, at least if he's not around, i don't, yeah he's not making more mess, you know? Right. Yeah. And I can just, and I'm not expecting him to clean at all.
Speaker: right like there's no frustration. Yeah. yeah yeah know Although there are certain things that I'm like, that's, you're doing that. Like, like take out the trash or anything where you have to carry anything. Right. Right. Yes. yeah And he is great about that. Like, so i don't want to say he doesn't do anything, but it's like, you know, um just getting stuff ready. Like, it's like, you don't have to ask anybody else to do anything. You just do it all. Cause they're out of town. Like, yeah.
Speaker: So then there's, it's just the option is off the table. yeah Yeah. And there's less, um, like organization you have to do on your head of like, you're going to do this. so I'm going to do that. Like, because we don't have the, right. You don't have the delegating. yeah Yeah. Yeah. It's just all you. Yeah. Probably we should just be like, I'll just always do this. And you just always do that.
Speaker: But that just hasn't happened with us because we both dislike doing anything. Well, you guys are in a weird, you're in a weird spot right now. I feel like you need to have a more of a routine. Like once you guys have jobs, jobs.
Speaker: Yeah. That'd be great. Um,
Speaker: Then you can figure out who does Right. The stress of not having income, you're saying, is like. It's probably like taking over. for sure. And then how can you do anything else? You can't. It's like this brick wall you have to tear down to get to the grocery store. Like it's scary all the time. It's a horrible feeling.
Speaker: should probably cut that because it's depressing. Cut what? Cut talking about money because it's depressing. Yeah, I will. But yeah, no. Yeah, it's very scary.
Speaker: But yeah, so in that sense it's easier. um but But then you don't have like the, know, somebody to talk to about what's going, like you I just have less company.
Speaker: Right. With all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. like, that sucks. Yeah. Oh yeah, and yesterday, did you talk to anyone yesterday?
Speaker: I don't remember yesterday. Like in the afternoon? What did you do in the afternoon? We just came home. Didn't do anything? It's depressing. Didn't go anywhere No, I thought my friend was coming over, but she actually meant today and not yesterday. So then I just, we had nothing going on. Yeah, it was just us.
Speaker: Very sad. Yeah, it's very sad. What did I even do? don't know. Yeah, it's depressing. I mean, I call, obviously, my husband a lot. i yeah We're on the phone a lot and like FaceTiming, you know.
Speaker: It feels so much longer this time than last time when he was away. Well, he's gone for, is he gone for longer? it the same amount of time? No, we did a six days before, but it did not feel, there's some kind of expansion of time going on where this week felt way longer. Trying
Speaker: to think. We all hung out at your house. Yeah. Anything happened then? I sang Beatles songs.
Speaker: We just have to call it. oh Be a short one. Yeah. I mean, think short is not that. We would like to say thank you to many listeners. and Do we have a listener on every continent now?
Speaker: I believe we do. We would just like to say thank you to all of our listeners. Hopefully next space. What? The people who live on Mars.
Speaker: On Mars. The slate that you're on my sleeves.
