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Transcript

Introduction to Triple T Podcast

00:00:15
echo_blades
What's up, everybody? Welcome to another Triple T Podcast for Knife Makers. For those just joining us, that's Tools, Tips, and Talk. We'll discuss info for the knife maker.
00:00:27
echo_blades
The knife maker.
00:00:27
Denis Tyrell
so smooth
00:00:29
echo_blades
The knife maker in a world where we do YouTube and podcast for the knife maker.
00:00:38
Denis Tyrell
and we say for fuck's sake about a hundred times before we actually would get the right recording but not here
00:00:40
echo_blades
What?
00:00:45
Denis Tyrell
but but
00:00:45
echo_blades
For fuck's sake.
00:00:46
Denis Tyrell
but
00:00:47
echo_blades
That is my all time favorite. That is, there is nothing else. Anybody ever wants to ask me like, Hey, you you send me a message. If you're interested, but you want, what is Dennis really like? For fuck's sake.
00:01:01
Denis Tyrell
Maybe they don't watch my videos. Maybe they don't get that joke
00:01:04
echo_blades
oh maybe they're like me.
00:01:06
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you watch other people's videos dick You know what I mean Yo
00:01:09
echo_blades
Oh, what do you mean?
00:01:13
echo_blades
and it's funny. Soon, my friend, soon.

Hosts' Introductions and Podcast Theme

00:01:20
echo_blades
Well, I'm Jared from Echo Blades. And as always, I have my co-host, Mr. Dennis Terrell from Terrell Knife Works.
00:01:28
Denis Tyrell
yo
00:01:30
echo_blades
And we are very grateful for you joining us on this.

Reflections on American Independence Day

00:01:35
echo_blades
I guess it is America's 249th birthday episode, huh
00:01:40
Denis Tyrell
Is it 249? Is that how old the country is?
00:01:42
Denis Tyrell
Next year is going to be a big year, man.
00:01:42
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:01:44
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:01:45
Denis Tyrell
Wow.
00:01:45
echo_blades
It is. How was a your 4th July?
00:01:49
Denis Tyrell
ah It was good. um We went to a friend a friend of ours. Their parents, whatever, have a house on the Delta. So we went up and kind of boated around. We really just, there's a place up there. You you you park your boat.
00:02:09
Denis Tyrell
You throw a water balloons, it's just like a big giant water balloon fight on the on the water. It's pretty fun. But yeah, there was a bit of drama. ah I'm not going to go into it, but teenage drinking is not a good thing.
00:02:23
echo_blades
Weird.
00:02:25
Denis Tyrell
So the let's just leave it at that. Too many teenagers drinking ah leads to mayhem.
00:02:36
echo_blades
Weird.

Fireworks: Traditions, Regulations, and Preferences

00:02:40
Denis Tyrell
quo
00:02:42
echo_blades
Weird.
00:02:42
Denis Tyrell
Not my teenagers.
00:02:43
echo_blades
That's That's odd. don't know.
00:02:46
Denis Tyrell
Imagine how that happens.
00:02:48
echo_blades
ah that's that's that's odd it's ah
00:02:51
Denis Tyrell
How was yours?
00:02:53
echo_blades
It was good. It was good.
00:02:54
Denis Tyrell
No mayhem?
00:02:55
echo_blades
No. So i have I have a hot take. Are you into fireworks?
00:02:59
Denis Tyrell
ah Yes and no. Fireworks is like like, it's not that it's not a thing. It's banned. like You cannot use fireworks anywhere in Canada. So I never grew up with fireworks.
00:03:09
echo_blades
Oh.
00:03:10
Denis Tyrell
Uh, well, at least, sorry, I haven't been everywhere. Everywhere I've been in Canada, fireworks are absolutely illegal.
00:03:16
echo_blades
Like everything else.
00:03:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, kind of.
00:03:18
echo_blades
Okay. Okay. All right. All right. So not, not, not a thing for you. You didn't come to America and just buy up all the legal and sane and legal ones that you can get here in the Bay area.
00:03:29
Denis Tyrell
I have used them before. In fact, Kayla bought some, uh, to, uh, throw off in our little cul-de-sac and, uh, You know, the ones that fire up like four or five feet.
00:03:41
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:03:41
Denis Tyrell
So we did that, um which is okay. I'm not a big fan of like the Roman candle things because I've seen shit go sideways with those. I've seen enough video. Those scare the shit out of me, actually.
00:03:54
Denis Tyrell
I'm just waiting for one to hit a car and a car to blow up. But yeah.
00:03:58
echo_blades
Hmm. That happens all the time.
00:04:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:04:03
echo_blades
I don't know, man. So, uh, I love fireworks. I love the shows go, you know, like that's, that's one of the cool things about, uh, Friday night at the, uh, Friday or Saturday night special. What the A's games they used to do big fireworks shows, Disneyland. Like I love, you know, the, the actual shows, but I've never been the guy that gets off on buying,
00:04:27
echo_blades
bunch of fire works.
00:04:29
Denis Tyrell
They're fucking expensive.
00:04:30
echo_blades
Yeah. And I got a buddy that spent a good amount of money and, in a place where they have them. Right. And, uh, they can make a bunch stuff go boom, boom, boom.

4th of July Weekend Recap

00:04:40
echo_blades
This is not my thing.
00:04:41
echo_blades
And, uh, like I, I guess, and I'm older too now. So my kids are older, so we don't do it. But I mean, like, I really think so for the kids, you know, you need a couple of sparklers and some fucking things, you know, some snap, crackle, poppers, and I'm good with that.
00:04:56
echo_blades
But I promise you, i don't think I saw 830 the 4th of July. i was out. And that was pretty much the that was pretty much the theme of the weekend, man.
00:05:04
Denis Tyrell
Getting old, getting old.
00:05:07
echo_blades
It was had nothing planned and I loved every minute of it. We yeah we didn't we did little barbecue, hung out at the house, didn't do much, watch the movies and just kind of did low key.
00:05:22
Denis Tyrell
we We weren't actually that far off because we left the the house on the Delta um at, I think, eight o'clock. We were home by...
00:05:34
Denis Tyrell
like 8 45. i think we were in bed by 9 9 30. so it wasn't we weren't that far off and we did nothing uh
00:05:41
echo_blades
Yeah. I didn't even hear any. Normally it's like, you know, it's not that bad out here, but where I grew up, you know, there was always, you know, fireworks and then the knucklehead gunfire shooting off and, you know, stupid shit.
00:05:55
Denis Tyrell
gunfire what do you live in the wild west
00:05:56
echo_blades
Yeah. Come on.
00:05:59
echo_blades
You don't, you don't ever, you never been in and gunfire on 4th of July.
00:06:03
Denis Tyrell
No.
00:06:06
Denis Tyrell
Maybe I've never lived in the hood.
00:06:06
echo_blades
That's good.
00:06:08
echo_blades
That's good.
00:06:09
Denis Tyrell
never gunfire.
00:06:09
echo_blades
You hear they do it in Livermore.
00:06:10
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Hmm.
00:06:11
echo_blades
Get out of here.
00:06:12
Denis Tyrell
Hmm.
00:06:14
echo_blades
Have you ever heard a gunfire?
00:06:15
Denis Tyrell
ah yeah

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00:06:20
echo_blades
No, but it's seriously, it's like, it's always just boom, boom, boom, boom. boom And yeah, I didn't, I didn't hear anything. So it was cool. I enjoyed the day, celebrated the day, but not, not my thing. So, and there was a bunch of local cities that had their,
00:06:37
echo_blades
fireworks shows canceled because fireworks warehouse blew up here. Not too far from our place, but a couple hours.
00:06:44
Denis Tyrell
Oh, really?
00:06:45
echo_blades
Yeah. The, but the warehouse that was, this is sorry. We have to cancel our fireworks show. Cause our inventory blew up in an accident.
00:06:55
echo_blades
I thought that was pretty cool. And then, yeah.
00:06:57
Denis Tyrell
I bet that was a good show.
00:06:58
echo_blades
And then San Jose canceled. There's just because there was an accident. So not, not that there's,
00:07:05
Denis Tyrell
No knee jerk reaction kind of thing.
00:07:06
echo_blades
Yeah, yeah.
00:07:08
Denis Tyrell
Hmm.
00:07:08
echo_blades
Anyways, that was cool. And then really, though, and for the past 17 years now, 4th of July is always... My son was born on the 5th. We were in the hospital most of the 4th of July when he was born, and he was almost a firecracker baby, but he held on until the wee morning hours of the 5th.
00:07:29
echo_blades
So, um yeah, got to celebrate my son's 17th birthday. um we went out golfing in the mornings. And then again, just hung out here, did another barbecue and had some family over and it was cool.
00:07:46
echo_blades
It's good. I can't believe that that dude's 17 now.
00:07:50
Denis Tyrell
he was just 13 what happened stop that shit from growing
00:07:52
echo_blades
Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. It's yeah. That's my, that's my, that's my baby too. So yeah. Interesting. He's good kid though, man. It's a, that's the best part of it also.
00:08:05
echo_blades
And now, now I'm stuck in the between this, like, you know, ah I think i remember being 17 not quite realizing how fucked up shit's about to get.
00:08:16
echo_blades
yeah Like, yeah I mean, I didn't go to college, right? But you got you got one more year left of of the easy street.
00:08:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, reality is going to kick in.
00:08:24
echo_blades
Yeah, you got one more of the easy street and then shit starts to get real. But I don't think it sinks in yet. So. No.
00:08:31
Denis Tyrell
he know what he wants to do?
00:08:35
echo_blades
and No.
00:08:37
Denis Tyrell
i mean, most kids at that age don't, but.
00:08:38
echo_blades
No. Yeah, no, no, he doesn't. He's thinking
00:08:44
echo_blades
probably the service, some kind of service right now.
00:08:46
Denis Tyrell
No, really?
00:08:47
echo_blades
Yeah, but it's all all in the wind right now. We got a whole year, so we'll play it as it goes.
00:08:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:08:53
echo_blades
But yeah, I don't know. Get him through ah high school and all the rest of that. But yeah, that was cool. um And then, yeah, I can't remember...
00:09:07
echo_blades
Yeah, it was hot this weekend. It heated up. Fourth of July was perfect. It was a beautiful day.
00:09:13
Denis Tyrell
I and actually would have rather it be reverse because it wasn't quite hot enough to be on the water.
00:09:21
Denis Tyrell
Like it was fine to be on the water, but like I didn't want to be in the water.
00:09:21
echo_blades
Wow.
00:09:21
echo_blades
All
00:09:24
echo_blades
right.
00:09:24
Denis Tyrell
So I wish it was a little warmer, like 90 degrees that day. um But well, yes,
00:09:29
echo_blades
Got

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00:09:32
Denis Tyrell
yesterday was warm and Saturday was warm, but we like sat on the couch all day Saturday and did nothing.
00:09:38
Denis Tyrell
So it didn't really matter.
00:09:38
echo_blades
Nice. Nice. Yeah, man. I'll tell you what. So because it's my son's birthday, my wife normally, and I would do the same. i would always either take the day off.
00:09:49
echo_blades
If it was like on a Thursday, I would take the Friday off or the Monday or something like that. But we're generally taking some time off because it fell forth, fell on a Friday. I didn't put in for any time off and then woke up this morning and ah my wife and I go for a walk every morning.
00:10:05
echo_blades
And, uh, she was like, Oh, I'm tired. You know, I'm like, yeah, yeah. I'm not really digging, having to go to work. Like I was, I still struggle with this. Like every single day I wake up and I think about calling in.
00:10:19
echo_blades
It's still, it's, it never goes away.
00:10:23
Denis Tyrell
Doesn't your boss listen to this show?
00:10:25
echo_blades
Yeah. know you, but you'll agree. He probably thinks the same way. Like, yeah, ah no man. Every single day I got to make a solid decision to be, you know, a responsible adult and show up and go to work. And I do,
00:10:38
echo_blades
it almost perfectly. And this morning, though, I was just like, God, but that's absolutely no-no calling in after a long weekend.
00:10:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that's a...
00:10:47
echo_blades
that's the Yeah, you can't do that. so But yeah, and then she tells me she had the day off, and I'm like, mother, why why didn't you tell me? You know? So um it was just really enjoyable. I really enjoyed the the long weekend. A couple days off, it was just really, really good. It was really shitty to have to get up and get to work today. So, and I blame my wife for having the day off and not letting me know that was the plan.
00:11:14
Denis Tyrell
Well, you know, someone someone asked me um how's retirement? Like, how is how's the knife business when on July 4th? And I said, you know, I would have been just as happy being at home in the shop right now as being on this boat. That's how good it's going.
00:11:32
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:34
Denis Tyrell
i would have been happy as a clam being home in the shop on a Friday, but.
00:11:37
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:41
echo_blades
That's cool. So, ah yeah, 4th of July. Long weekend.
00:11:48
Denis Tyrell
If you read the notes.
00:11:49
echo_blades
No. I'm checking my phone just went off, so I don't know.
00:11:54
Denis Tyrell
Oh, it's actually been a good week.
00:11:54
echo_blades
I forgot to put it on focus, so.
00:11:58
Denis Tyrell
Um, uh, for sales had a couple knife sharpeners I've already sold two of the, the revised changes to the sand shark with the, without the motor.
00:12:10
echo_blades
Cool.
00:12:13
Denis Tyrell
So actually, first order I've ever had, which was, i mean, i have on my website that, you know, you can do a local pickup, but never never has anyone ever done that. Well, until now.
00:12:26
echo_blades
Oh, nice.
00:12:26
Denis Tyrell
So I have a guy that's actually coming to pick a Sandshark up, so that'll be interesting.
00:12:30
echo_blades
Cool.
00:12:31
Denis Tyrell
And yeah, I just sold two two expensive knives today. so my, the dagger and the...
00:12:38
echo_blades
Which one's with?
00:12:41
Denis Tyrell
um the
00:12:45
Denis Tyrell
The buoy with the nickel in it and the um twist on top. I
00:12:54
echo_blades
Okay, yeah, I know you're doing this hand gesture. I couldn't figure it out.
00:12:57
Denis Tyrell
um i don't know how to describe it. The one, the the nickel shim with the twist with the ironwood handle, that one. So, yeah.
00:13:04
echo_blades
Nice. Well, good.
00:13:06
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. That's been good. So, you know, maybe we're we're over... We're over that, uh, the hammock. I don't know, but it's been a good week.
00:13:17
echo_blades
Good.
00:13:18
Denis Tyrell
but Um, yeah. And now I got three to go on the website tomorrow. Actually four because Parker's knife will go up on the website tomorrow.
00:13:30
Denis Tyrell
and um it's his first knife officially for sale um as P-Dog knives. So P-Dog knives will be live on my website. It'll be a different category on my website.
00:13:44
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, if you want to support Parker and yeah, I think his first knife will be listed for 200 bucks. So, you know, it's not gonna be crazy, but yeah, go check it out.
00:13:56
Denis Tyrell
It's a really nice knife actually.
00:13:57
echo_blades
yeah ah Yeah, I saw. i didn't get to see it done, but he was. Oh, there it is.
00:14:03
Denis Tyrell
And there's the, I'm trying to show Jared the maker's mark.
00:14:03
echo_blades
Very cool.
00:14:08
Denis Tyrell
Oh, it actually shows up pretty good.
00:14:11
echo_blades
Are those sunglasses?
00:14:12
Denis Tyrell
No, it's just, it's just really dark.
00:14:17
echo_blades
Oh, that's cool.
00:14:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I mean, it's not, it's hard to read read in a maker's mark that small, but it's big.
00:14:20
echo_blades
Nice.
00:14:24
Denis Tyrell
It's a bulldog with a knife in his teeth. So it's,
00:14:27
echo_blades
Oh, got it. Got it. Okay. Yeah.
00:14:30
Denis Tyrell
so yeah.
00:14:31
echo_blades
Yeah, no. So I, ah this weekend I, I had to, um my shop is a disaster and it's really, really, really getting in the way. Like it was fine when it was the blade show push, but now I know when I go out there, it's like going to be cleaning and and, I just can't, I, for the life of me, all that bullshit about being motivated, which I am, right.
00:14:45
Denis Tyrell
right.
00:14:54
echo_blades
I want to go out there and do it, but it's like, I was just going to take, a good chunk of time to get shit squared away. So that's why I have you. So I said, uh, I'm going over to Dennis's house and I'm going to grind a knife, um, and force myself to get out there and and do that. So that was cool, man.
00:15:13
echo_blades
Um, I think, uh, I had, uh, use Tobin jig on a, on a chef knife. And, um, you know, i think, uh,
00:15:27
echo_blades
everything has its particular purpose. And, and I didn't, I had some issues with it. Right. And it was strictly because of the style of the knife that I was trying to grind in my complete and lack of understanding of geometry and how it actually would work in that, um, with that knife.
00:15:49
echo_blades
Um, so I had some, some issues and then Dennis kind of explained a couple of things to me that made a little bit of sense to me at the moment.
00:15:59
Denis Tyrell
yeah Sure seems like it.
00:16:01
echo_blades
And then, um, I, and it's not a, it's not a, like Dennis says it, I don't believe it. I think is that's not, that's not what I'm, there's plenty of like, man, I, yeah, that's, I love busting your balls, man, but that's, this isn't the one, right?
00:16:14
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:16:18
echo_blades
I really have a ah thing where Um, even in golf and anything that I'm learning, right. I, I, I, it's generally threes, right. So I'll ask three different people the same question.
00:16:30
echo_blades
And if two of them agree, ah kind of take that as gospel, like, and I don't lead them in any direction or, you know, I just kind of let them do their thing, but that's kind of the, the way I'll, I'll make a decision if I'm completely unsure and trying to take direction and suggestions.
00:16:47
echo_blades
But, um,
00:16:47
Denis Tyrell
That's a good rule in life, not just...
00:16:49
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:16:49
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:16:49
echo_blades
Yeah. But it, it definitely is a, a, a standing thing. But so I do that a lot. um But the, what I was remembering was when I first bought the jig, I had watched a bunch of videos on it and, and I'm the kind of person that will, will not do something and just sit there and overthink the shit out of it.
00:17:13
Denis Tyrell
no
00:17:14
echo_blades
And the, That's one of the things that I completely, you know, I

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00:17:19
echo_blades
think is a quality of yours that, that I admire um is that you just jump the fuck in there and do it.
00:17:26
echo_blades
And then I think I know now that, you know, I bet you 90% of what you've learned and stuff is just by getting after it and then fucking it up and then stopping and thinking about it after.
00:17:37
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, absolutely.
00:17:38
echo_blades
And yeah, yeah. And that's not me. That's just, I, I don't, ah the fear of failing and all that crap. And I want to get all into that, but so, but I think it was good for me not to even think about it, just jump on there and start doing it and then figuring out it wasn't doing what I wanted to do. And, um, you know, long story short, the, uh, the jig is great, but you got to use it with the right style knife. And, um, I didn't do that.
00:18:06
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, and let me elaborate for folks that don't understand what you're talking about. So the jig, the Tobin jig, is basically a cross slide where you put the heel, ah sorry, the spine of your knife up against the, you know, I'm sure many you have seen it.
00:18:22
Denis Tyrell
Well, because you're putting the spine up against a cross slide and you're holding the spine there, if the height of your knife changes dramatically from the tip to the heel,
00:18:34
Denis Tyrell
the angle is going to change, right? Because do the spine is fixed.
00:18:38
echo_blades
Yep.
00:18:41
Denis Tyrell
The knife is tilting towards the platen, which is unlike, well, you you know, if you're freehand grinding, you're grinding on ah on a facet and you're moving it with pressure. You're not fixing where the spine is.
00:18:55
Denis Tyrell
So you have to be mindful of if you're going to do that with a knife on the Tobin jig, you have to either compensate for that or... like grind it differently or just not grind that kind of knife the toba i think tobin is tobin jig is exceptionally good at things like daggers um swords things that have a long straight bevel um what it's not good at are things that have really curvy bevels
00:19:27
echo_blades
Yeah. I mean, again, and then this is ah the part where you and I were kind of going back and forth on it. I mean, it it was made for culinary knives, but it it definitely, you know, the the heel to so the edge proportion has to be somewhat
00:19:47
echo_blades
regular or proportionate, right?
00:19:48
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. and
00:19:49
Denis Tyrell
Or you have to compensate like Tobias does in his grinding example, which he doesn't mention in the, he should really mention that.
00:19:49
echo_blades
Yeah, yeah.
00:19:50
echo_blades
or you yeah yeah
00:19:57
echo_blades
there's a There's a bunch of them, and I don't know if he if he did, but yeah, he dropping the handle as he was bringing it across to get the low side up to the higher, to the same elevation.
00:20:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:20:07
echo_blades
So anyways, it was good, and I ended up getting impatient, and I steepened the angle, or shallowed the angle, and ended up like washing out a bunch of stuff.
00:20:21
echo_blades
So I abandoned abandoned ship and went to freehand grinding. And That right there is, that was a victory for me because it's it's been a and a little bit.
00:20:34
echo_blades
And, you know, I think ah if you're not grinding regularly, are it takes chops and you have muscle memory and all that good stuff. But it's not like, you know, playing with your beat off socks.
00:20:48
echo_blades
ah You know, if you don't use it, you lose it. Right. So you got ah it doesn't come that naturally, but I was, I was really pleased with how i was able to kind of, um, and that's one of the things I think you learn along the way if you've been making long enough is that, you know, I think really good makers aren't perfect. They're just really good at fixing their fuck ups.
00:21:10
echo_blades
And, uh, so that's what I was attempting to do. And, um, I'm pretty happy with where, where I'm at right now.
00:21:13
Denis Tyrell
yeah
00:21:16
echo_blades
So, um,
00:21:19
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I've noticed that there's a lot of different, um unlike the knives that I grind typically, like buoys and hunters and stuff like that, where I don't think you can do what I'm about to describe. But with chef knives, you can do a lot of the like grind on the like the the integral bolster attachments.
00:21:41
echo_blades
Yep.
00:21:41
Denis Tyrell
Like grind on top flat on that.
00:21:44
echo_blades
Yep.
00:21:44
Denis Tyrell
Grind like on a really steep angle. Like you can do all those things when you don't have a bevel line, like a plunge line.
00:21:52
echo_blades
Yep.
00:21:53
Denis Tyrell
You can do all those things that you can't do, you know, when I'm grinding a buoy. So you got a lot more tools in the toolbox.
00:22:02
echo_blades
Yeah. And there's so many different methods there, you know, the rest, the push stick, the, you know, there's just, it's,
00:22:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, rotary platen.
00:22:07
echo_blades
it's endless rotary plat and freehand and all that, all that good stuff. So yeah, I don't know.
00:22:11
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:22:12
echo_blades
Overall, man, I was, uh, I was a little defeated there for a second. Um, but I left feeling good and, and fired up again. So I'm, I'm, I'm good, man. I'm glad I got out and did something that was cool.
00:22:25
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. ah
00:22:26
echo_blades
Uh,
00:22:28
Denis Tyrell
Those two knives that are going on my website, two of the three knives that are going on, four knives, whatever they're going on my website, I just ground the bevels using my new Ameribraid grinder.
00:22:39
echo_blades
Nice.
00:22:39
Denis Tyrell
um So did the bevels the other day on those.
00:22:39
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:22:42
Denis Tyrell
First time doing a bevel with the Ameribraid was super happy. um So if you guys need a grinder, 2x72 grinder, ah go get yourself fast back two by seventy two from a uh they got all the attachments the best surface grinding attachment on the market plus other cool attachments i love the rotary platen um the drop the the new drop away deep sea platen is uh is the platen i use almost exclusively unless i'm using another attachment but uh go check them out also they also have the hyperdisk which is a
00:23:05
echo_blades
yeah
00:23:21
Denis Tyrell
a disc grinding super tool that has all kinds of little attachments. Jared's got one and um I don't know how much you're using that thing, but maybe I'll come over and use it.
00:23:27
echo_blades
yeah Yeah, we should. Yeah, I use it. I use it a lot. It's good.
00:23:37
Denis Tyrell
It's got some cool attachments. I like those, like the abrasive kind of wheels you can get for them.
00:23:43
echo_blades
Yeah, that's the that's the secret trick right there.
00:23:44
Denis Tyrell
Very cool.
00:23:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:23:47
echo_blades
They even got like burnishing tools, you know, things that you can attach to it. It's like it's endlessly versatile and it's a great tool. So, yeah, absolutely.
00:23:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:23:57
echo_blades
Mary braid for the one.
00:23:57
Denis Tyrell
So go check out Ameribraid. I got to find out from Kevin if we have a discount code or something like that. I haven't hooked up with him on that. um But go get yourself an Ameribraid at Ameribraid.com.
00:24:12
Denis Tyrell
Some of the best grinders on the market. And Kevin and Eric are great guys to deal with. So go check them out.
00:24:18
echo_blades
Absolutely. Yeah. that So when I did, when I bought the, uh, the hyperdisk on the pre-order, um, you know, uh, the, um I've met them a bunch of times, but I don't, I didn't order it as, you know, echo blades or anything like that.
00:24:35
echo_blades
Um, so was just some customer named Jared and, uh, I think it was Kevin called me and just said, Hey, thank you for the order. Let me know if you need anything.
00:24:46
echo_blades
If everything goes good, you know, blah, blah, blah. Appreciate the business. And I just thought that was a standup move from, you know, any company, but to just personally call somebody that, you know, randomly, put in an order, um, what they're with their number and, um, you know, reached out like that. Uh, it was a great customer service. So they, uh, they'll definitely take care of something's will goof goof booty.
00:25:11
Denis Tyrell
for sure
00:25:12
echo_blades
Cool.
00:25:15
Denis Tyrell
so um I want to talk about the Triple T series that's going to be coming up. I think I'm going to start it this week. Something that Parker's been bugging me on for ah probably four years.
00:25:32
echo_blades
Oh, and to mention, ah just at the tail end of the Ameribray, that was the Triple T that Dennis did this week. So if you want a good review on all the ins and outs ah of the Fastback, go check that video out.
00:25:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:25:45
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, that last week's video. Jared's just late.
00:25:49
echo_blades
That was last week.
00:25:50
Denis Tyrell
You said this week.
00:25:52
echo_blades
No, last week. Well, okay. Yeah, I did say this week, but it was the latest one.
00:25:56
Denis Tyrell
I'm just busting your balls.
00:25:58
echo_blades
It was the latest one.
00:25:58
Denis Tyrell
Yes, it's the latest one.
00:25:59
echo_blades
I don't watch them, so yeah. Okay. right. Here we go. This is a perfect transition before we get into your next Triple T series. So we had this thing go on with the Tobin jig, and I sent Dennis a link to a YouTube video.
00:26:15
echo_blades
This fucking guy. Text me. And lays it on with me. Oh, sure. You'll watch someone else's YouTube videos, but you won't watch mine.
00:26:26
echo_blades
And for like, I'm very split millisecond. I actually felt bad. I was like, oh, I seriously did.
00:26:34
Denis Tyrell
No, you didn't.
00:26:37
echo_blades
And I was like, oh, man, that's that's a bummer. But, you know, you get you put out some good content and then I'll watch it.
00:26:40
Denis Tyrell
well ah
00:26:46
echo_blades
No, but I did, though. I was like, oh, man, that's fucking that's funny. That was good. So I have a heart, dude. I like busting your balls more than anything.
00:26:53
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:26:54
echo_blades
But, yeah, that that yeah that one was like, oh.
00:26:59
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:59
echo_blades
All right. So new Triple T. What's going on?
00:27:01
Denis Tyrell
So um like part of this kind of sparked when I had, um you know, because its ah Parker wants me to build a lot of things. He's asked me to build a lot of things. Some I've done some I'm never considering.
00:27:16
Denis Tyrell
But when I had Trey after Blade Show and we had the discussion about the balisong knives, and Parker has been wanting me to build balisong knife for years.
00:27:29
Denis Tyrell
Well, probably over four years. um So I'm finally going to break down and do a series on building balisong knife.
00:27:37
echo_blades
You should have did that in June.
00:27:39
Denis Tyrell
In June.
00:27:42
Denis Tyrell
No way. Too busy before Bladeshow.
00:27:44
echo_blades
No, no, there's, there's a joke there. Yeah.
00:27:47
Denis Tyrell
Okay, I didn't get it, but...
00:27:49
echo_blades
Yeah. It's all good. It's pride month.
00:27:54
echo_blades
But anyways, go ahead.
00:27:55
Denis Tyrell
Oh, you're going to hell now.
00:27:56
echo_blades
yeah It's official.
00:27:59
Denis Tyrell
um
00:27:59
echo_blades
but It's official. like
00:28:02
Denis Tyrell
So I am going to make a balisong knife. I'll go through the whole design. And the reason I'm doing this on a triple T is because it's going to get a little technical. There's going to be a lot of milling.
00:28:12
Denis Tyrell
um You know, we're going to talk about designs, why this design versus that design. So it'll get pretty technical. So I'm sure it's only going to be for the knife makers. And, you know, that's actually my issue with I love making folding knives. They just don't make good videos.
00:28:30
Denis Tyrell
um because they're just so, oh, okay, we're going to drill five holes now. Now we're going to tap five holes.
00:28:35
echo_blades
yeah
00:28:37
Denis Tyrell
Like, this is so exciting. um The balisog knife, I think, will, it'll be at least a couple episodes, but I don't know. i I may have some grief as I build it, as a as I get it done.
00:28:50
Denis Tyrell
We'll see if I get the first their first episode out this week, which will be just on design and the important things of balisog knives.
00:28:59
echo_blades
Well, cool. I love it.

Ongoing Projects and Damascus Steel Techniques

00:29:02
echo_blades
I can't wait.
00:29:02
Denis Tyrell
you
00:29:03
echo_blades
I may watch those.
00:29:05
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:29:07
echo_blades
You have any idea how to make one? Hmm.
00:29:09
Denis Tyrell
I do actually. I've actually made like, this is way, way long ago when I first, um, started before I was really even had the YouTube channel. I did try to make one. Um, it was, it was just an abysmal failure. Cause I made the handles out of aluminum and it was just, it was just bad, bad, bad.
00:29:32
Denis Tyrell
And, uh, And that's what going to talk about on Thursday, like the different, the main, the two main designs for battle song knives and why I like one over the other. Um, and we'll, we'll talk about that on Thursday.
00:29:46
echo_blades
Cool. How many series, how many episodes until you're done?
00:29:48
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I have no idea.
00:29:53
Denis Tyrell
Till I'm done. I'm,
00:29:54
echo_blades
All right.
00:29:54
Denis Tyrell
ah I need, honestly, and the other reason is I just need i need some Thursday video content. So I think, um you know, I'm doing other things. So, you know, i usually when I have these series, I'll spend a day do every week doing that series. So we'll see how long it's going to take. i don't know.
00:30:12
echo_blades
Gotcha. That's interesting.
00:30:14
Denis Tyrell
It's going lot of milling.
00:30:15
echo_blades
That's, that's, Yeah, that's out of the box, though. that's ah I don't know if I've ever looked if anyone has done that.
00:30:18
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:30:22
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:30:22
Denis Tyrell
You don't see a lot of balisong knife videos, ah like making balisong knives.
00:30:25
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:30:28
Denis Tyrell
um
00:30:28
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:30:29
Denis Tyrell
And Parker's a, you know, like every teenager, is a big balisong kid. So he knows a little, quite a bit more of them than I do and what's important and
00:30:39
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:30:39
Denis Tyrell
you know, what they look for. Cause I'm looking at the one he showed me, he goes, Oh, here's one. And I'm like, it doesn't even close all the way. And he goes, out Oh no, actually you want it that way. Cause it's easier to grab an index. And I'm like, fuck, I wouldn't have done that.
00:30:51
Denis Tyrell
I would actually made the handles close completely, but yeah.
00:30:53
echo_blades
Right.
00:30:56
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:30:58
Denis Tyrell
So yeah.
00:30:58
echo_blades
Well, that's interesting.
00:31:01
Denis Tyrell
But, um, And I think Mr. Keeling, Gabe Keeling, Gabriel, I'm not sure if he goes by Gabe or Gabriel. ah We're going to delay our get together another week, I think, because he he had some other plans.
00:31:18
Denis Tyrell
but So I had to push forward um making the Damascus for the Midwest Knife Makers Guild hammering. I'm really excited about this pattern.
00:31:30
Denis Tyrell
I think it's going to be awesome.
00:31:31
echo_blades
It looked absolutely bitching.
00:31:36
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:31:36
echo_blades
The shims were, yeah, that's, yeah, that was, that's going look cool. i don't know if you're telling them about it but.
00:31:42
Denis Tyrell
you know, it's basically, it's just, I've never done kumai like this where I've made the cladding. ah It's 33 layers alternating 1084 in copper.
00:31:55
Denis Tyrell
And it's 16th inch 1084 in copper. And that is compressed down to like three 16ths. So it's really, you like really, really fine. And that's the cladding.
00:32:10
Denis Tyrell
um and then there's another layer so in the with the 1084 core and another layer of 1084 cladding on top of that.
00:32:18
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:32:18
Denis Tyrell
So there's going to be this streak of really, really fine copper mesh kind of.
00:32:23
echo_blades
Seeing all the layers though, and that clouding was, was really cool. It looks, it looks pigeon just in the billet.
00:32:27
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:32:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:32:29
echo_blades
Not, not even forged yet.
00:32:30
Denis Tyrell
So I'm.
00:32:31
echo_blades
That's cool.
00:32:31
Denis Tyrell
And then it's going to have it's going to be bordered by a thick copper because I had to put copper between the next, like the 1084 cladding again. So what i did I forged it out today. Looks good. I used my ring Damascus dyes.
00:32:49
echo_blades
Okay.
00:32:50
Denis Tyrell
you know, it looks like the Audi. Someone said, hey, it's like the Audi pattern.
00:32:54
echo_blades
Oh, geez.
00:32:55
Denis Tyrell
Which exactly it is. it's It's a great way of describing it. It's the...
00:32:58
echo_blades
I thought of a belly button. I did not think of the car. Nice.
00:33:00
Denis Tyrell
not an Audi an Audi um ah so I'm curious I'm I need to like do a little bit more forging and send it out but I'm curious what it's gonna look like with those ripple rings on it so but I should have enough for
00:33:17
echo_blades
nice
00:33:21
Denis Tyrell
a buoy and ah small buoy or a hunter. And so one of those, the smaller one is going to be what they're going to raffle. I'm leaving it with the guys um for the the Midwest Knife Makers Guild guys, and they're going to get to raffle that guy off.
00:33:40
Denis Tyrell
So that knife off. So yeah, so that'll be cool.
00:33:42
echo_blades
Cool.
00:33:46
Denis Tyrell
Um, yeah, cause my first session at the, at that hammer in, um, doing three sessions. The first session is, um, a Kumai theory class, um, all about Kumai and, um, you know, how to do it, all that stuff.
00:34:04
Denis Tyrell
And then guard fitting and then a handle shaping followed by, meant Northstar forge doing, um a full two day class on a guard fitting and handle shipping right after that.
00:34:19
Denis Tyrell
So limited spaces for that available. So go check out Northstar forge um and check out the class there.
00:34:27
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:34:27
Denis Tyrell
And the buoy is what I'll be working on there.
00:34:30
echo_blades
Cool. You just going to like profile it out and do all the business there or
00:34:37
Denis Tyrell
It'll be all done. Like the blade needs to be done. The Ricasso area. Like when you do a guard,
00:34:43
echo_blades
Oh, cause you're doing the, you're doing the guard. Yeah. Okay.
00:34:45
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, the ricasso has got to be done because you don't want to be sanding that after.
00:34:45
echo_blades
right. I'm following Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I gotcha.
00:34:49
Denis Tyrell
So i'll it'll probably be sanded to like, you know, 400. four hundred um So that i the usually like what I like to do is sand it up to like my second last grit.
00:35:02
Denis Tyrell
And then I just do the last grit. And I'm not even actually going to etch this thing because it's only 1084 in copper. So I'm only going to coffee it.
00:35:13
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:35:14
Denis Tyrell
So, why yeah. But if you don't want to make your own Copper Damascus, you go check out Baker Forge and Tool. ah They got all the fancy patterns.
00:35:25
echo_blades
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:35:27
Denis Tyrell
um this actually This pattern I'm doing is actually inspired by something at Baker Forge, which is one of their... i think it's the Aurora pattern, like the one...
00:35:39
Denis Tyrell
Anyway, it's one where like there's black on the top, black on the bottom, and there's like at the copper in the center.
00:35:45
echo_blades
yeah
00:35:45
Denis Tyrell
um Maybe it's a river of something, I forget, or volcanic... Volcanic River? Maybe that's what it's called. Sorry, Koi, I don't have all your patterns memorized, but it's one of those.
00:35:56
Denis Tyrell
um They have so many amazing patterns over at Baker Forge for their steel. You got to go check it out. Use the discount code TTT10. um what it do you know what they got up this week?
00:36:08
Denis Tyrell
I had it in...
00:36:09
echo_blades
Yeah, I do. They have a Firestorm Dam Core ah Ripple.
00:36:14
Denis Tyrell
Nice.
00:36:15
echo_blades
Yep. That is ah live right now. And if you, uh, next week on the drop, if you use the, uh, Baker forge, uh, app, you can get, one day early access to the drops.

Unique Steel Patterns and Sword Project Plans

00:36:26
echo_blades
And, um, because it'd be Tuesday now when you guys are hearing this and there'll be some scraps left. So jump on that.
00:36:35
Denis Tyrell
Scraps.
00:36:36
echo_blades
Yeah. Jump on that next week for sure. For whatever awesome pattern they got dropping. And they also have all of the, uh, premium entrance, uh, live and ready to go. they the, the OG Gator piss Gator max Gator heavy, um max for your stainless and heavy for the, uh, for the blackout effect, uh, and the brand new Gator skin nano ceramic technology to help you beat off
00:37:06
echo_blades
water off of your blades. Yes, that's right.
00:37:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:37:09
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:37:10
Denis Tyrell
I'm sure it'll beat other stuff, but...
00:37:12
echo_blades
hydrophobic power.
00:37:18
Denis Tyrell
Sorry, that just...
00:37:19
echo_blades
yeah
00:37:20
Denis Tyrell
Something really... Something I'm not going to say on air came to mind, but Okay.
00:37:26
echo_blades
Yeah, it'll repel ah everything.
00:37:32
echo_blades
So you got to put it on your beat. Yeah.
00:37:37
Denis Tyrell
why Why do our sponsors even like us? I don't get it
00:37:44
echo_blades
So Rainy Day Forge, yeah, go to Baker Forges and Tool, Triple D10 for discount on that large cart that you put in and make sure you use that for your order and save yourself some my
00:37:57
Denis Tyrell
o
00:37:58
echo_blades
and doll hairs.
00:37:59
Denis Tyrell
Dull hairs, yes.
00:38:01
echo_blades
Yeah, Rainy Day Forge, Justin sent me a reel about somebody with some... Anyways, it was, the end of result was like,
00:38:16
echo_blades
Thanks. It was a sweet gesture, but it was mostly cringy. because
00:38:23
echo_blades
i can't even explain it, but it was funny. It was a good time. I had a good laugh. So thanks for sending bro.
00:38:31
echo_blades
ah
00:38:32
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you know, I do that a lot. I see a um a little video, whatever, little meme, not a meme. Usually it's videos that I think are hilarious. Then I'll send to someone and they're like, ah thanks.
00:38:48
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:50
Denis Tyrell
I sent one to Noah. like I know he's a big Lord of the Rings fan. And it's this like, like, reggae Rasta version of, it was like all ai generated of all the characters on Lord of the Rings if they were all like, you know, Rastas.
00:39:08
Denis Tyrell
And they were playing like the beat. I thought it was hilarious. i didnt He didn't think it was funny.
00:39:12
echo_blades
i I was kind of like, huh?
00:39:17
echo_blades
I know it good intended, though. that's That's the main thing. They can't all be bangers, though. They're not all wins.
00:39:23
Denis Tyrell
That's right.
00:39:24
echo_blades
Yeah. But, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:25
Denis Tyrell
That's right.
00:39:28
echo_blades
Cool. You know what I haven't used in a while that ah I'm kind of itching to use is my Two Bastards fat peen.
00:39:35
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:39:35
echo_blades
Straight from the beat-off to the peens, dude. Because if you're in the market for a hammer, go check out Frank and Nita at Two Bastards, Smithy, and Supply. They got all the peens.
00:39:46
echo_blades
That you need there. It's mine and Dennis' go-to hammer. When we're forging or I'm hitting the hammer. Hey, Koi. ah Just FYI. I did get the ah the message that you sent to to Dennis about me missing. that
00:40:07
Denis Tyrell
but
00:40:12
echo_blades
a Fucker. Yeah, that was a good one.
00:40:16
Denis Tyrell
ah
00:40:16
echo_blades
But yeah, when I'm when um'm using the peen, though, it's always the two bastards. So go check out the two bastards for your next hammer.
00:40:25
Denis Tyrell
I had posted the picture of Jared the panda hammering his knife and Koi sends back. ah You need to update that picture with Jared missing the knife and hitting the ant.
00:40:37
echo_blades
yeah Tappa, tappa, tappa. but
00:40:43
Denis Tyrell
I have another secret one, actually, that I didn't show you that I'm keeping for stickers of Blade Show.
00:40:51
echo_blades
Oh, nice.
00:40:55
Denis Tyrell
Thanks to Mr. John Chandler.
00:40:59
echo_blades
Yeah. Good dude.
00:41:02
Denis Tyrell
ah You know, I'm also, um I've been going back and forth between that Kumai billet for the the hammer end.
00:41:02
echo_blades
Cool.
00:41:12
Denis Tyrell
And my sword for the military challenge, which I'm just going to start telling you guys what it is. So I'm going to be making, I think is, well, at least if you live in the U.S., probably the most iconic, I think is one of the most iconic weapons of modern, like, okay, it's not modern. Obviously, it's not a gun.
00:41:35
Denis Tyrell
But of our military, which is the U.S. Marine officer sword. which is the, the mama Luke sword, um, which is like ah it's like a saber.
00:41:42
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:41:48
Denis Tyrell
It was, there's some history to it. The original saber was given to, I don't, I don't remember. I gotta look it up, but anyway, it was given to some guy way back who was a Marine, whatever. and that became the iconic U S Marine officer sword.
00:42:04
Denis Tyrell
So I'm going to be doing that sword. um it has it has a hilt that's made out of brass so i'm like okay well maybe i want to do this thing in brass in the blade and i've never done that and uh started looking up the melting points of brass and it was making me nervous and then i uh of course i have you know mr coy on speed dial messaged him
00:42:34
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:42:37
Denis Tyrell
and said, hey, what do you think about that? And he's like, yeah, we don't use brass. We stay away from that. We use ah bronze. But I did find a an alloy of brass, a 230 alloy, which is red brass, which is a pretty high copper content, but it still looks brassy.
00:42:57
Denis Tyrell
So going to be using that. so I'm waiting for some of that to arrive.
00:43:01
echo_blades
um
00:43:02
Denis Tyrell
so I'm going to do a little test knife. with that which is probably what i'm going to um make with uh gabe keeling next week as we're going to make some of that we're going to attempt some of that brass ah brass my um so that's in preparation i have the damascus um mostly done
00:43:16
echo_blades
Nice. okay
00:43:27
Denis Tyrell
for the blade that then i'm going to add brass to so anyway it's going to be a little more complicated i'm i'm doing a mosaic what i would normally do for mosaic but instead of tiling it i'm going to twist it
00:43:42
Denis Tyrell
so it's kind of like a half explosion that i'm going to twist yeah and then and that's what i'm and that's what i'm going to use as cladding and then brass and then a core
00:43:46
echo_blades
Interesting. And clad it with brass.
00:43:55
echo_blades
Interesting.
00:43:56
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I think it'll look...
00:43:57
echo_blades
You tired of losing this challenge? Yeah.
00:44:02
Denis Tyrell
You know, ah I said from the beginning, my money's on Yakko.
00:44:08
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:44:09
Denis Tyrell
Looking at his knives and what seeing what he's done, i think he's... Yakko, don't disappoint me, man. but My money's on you for this one. He's an awesome Smith, and I think he's...
00:44:25
Denis Tyrell
yeah he's the I think he's going to be the one to beat here.
00:44:30
echo_blades
Yeah, he's a badass for sure.
00:44:31
Denis Tyrell
He just did a couple where he did the Canadian flag in a Mosaic Billet and did three keyhole hunters.
00:44:44
Denis Tyrell
um
00:44:44
echo_blades
Yeah, he did that with the American flag too not too long ago.
00:44:47
Denis Tyrell
No, he didn't.
00:44:48
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:51
Denis Tyrell
Yakko, he's Canadian.
00:44:52
echo_blades
He did one with America. He was selling fucking American Damascus pattern keychains at a blade show, I think.
00:44:59
Denis Tyrell
Oh, really?
00:45:00
Denis Tyrell
Oh, I did not know that.
00:45:00
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:45:02
echo_blades
Mm hmm.
00:45:04
Denis Tyrell
That seems very, it's not very Canadian.
00:45:09
echo_blades
Jesus. think it's ultimate Canadian.
00:45:15
echo_blades
Oh, man.
00:45:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, now I'm going to go look. I'm going to look them up and see, yeah did I miss something?
00:45:21
echo_blades
You did, 100%. hundred percent
00:45:24
Denis Tyrell
i see Canadian flags. Canadian flags? Oh, I see little keychains, but not a knife.
00:45:32
echo_blades
therest There's a knife in there way back when.
00:45:37
Denis Tyrell
Hmm. All right. I'll trust you.
00:45:40
echo_blades
It happened.
00:45:42
Denis Tyrell
Okay, I see it now.
00:45:45
Denis Tyrell
I see it now. Okay. Once in a while, you're right. Not very often.
00:45:53
echo_blades
See Canadians do cool things, but if you want to go check out the coolest of them all, you should go check out Lawrence Lake from maritime knife supply for, uh, anything knife related that you need to, uh, put a build together, whether it's an American flag or a Canadian flag.
00:46:09
echo_blades
Uh, he's got it all, uh, steel, braces, machines, tools. Um, a lot of our sponsors are, um, so you can get all the, their stuff from, from him as well.
00:46:23
echo_blades
Um, Dennis's favorite service he does. He will cut your steel to whatever desired length you want for for your Damascus builds. So make sure you go check out Maritime Knife Supply for all your knife making needs.

Traditional vs Modern Knife Making Techniques

00:46:41
Denis Tyrell
Yes, and that is my favorite that he cuts the steel because that is ah terrible... There are certain things I don't mind doing and that is not one of the fun things that I like doing. I don't mind even taking the mill scale off, but cutting it up is a pain in the ass.
00:47:00
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:47:02
Denis Tyrell
Did we finish the Two Bastards one? don't know.
00:47:06
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:47:08
Denis Tyrell
um I just was seeing a whole bunch of posts um from Frank, a bunch of pictures of him and Nita. Those two just look like they're having the grandest time.
00:47:19
Denis Tyrell
they're I think they're traveling somewhere. I don't know.
00:47:21
echo_blades
Nice.
00:47:22
Denis Tyrell
Just saw a whole bunch pictures from them. it's ah That's a happy couple right there.
00:47:27
echo_blades
Yep. Agreed.
00:47:30
Denis Tyrell
So, you know... Yesterday i was working on the, um, those two knives and, uh, told you I was going to do, you know, so these are ABL, the ones, a hunter and ones of sand tigers. So they're smallish knives.
00:47:46
Denis Tyrell
Um, and I thought I'm, I'm just getting burnt out on doing, you know, the stonewash finish and all this. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to go back to old school on these.
00:47:59
Denis Tyrell
And, So it's, you know, hand sanded finish metal pins. I haven't done metal pins. I don't remember the last time I put stainless steel pins like in a, eye in a full tang knife like this.
00:48:14
Denis Tyrell
And, um, now that got it done, um really like it. And I'm like, I gotta do more of these. Cause, uh, I think it looks and just the, you know, back to the, the silver finish.
00:48:28
Denis Tyrell
i'm I'm showing Jared on the screen now. I'm like, why am I not doing these anymore? I just feel like everyone's doing the the um the stonewash finish because you can sandblast it and it's easier. and
00:48:44
echo_blades
Well, that's all it is. Nobody likes hand sanding, so they're getting away from the satin finish.
00:48:46
Denis Tyrell
Right.
00:48:48
echo_blades
But yeah, it looks good.
00:48:50
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. yeah i was Yeah. I was really happy with both them.
00:48:53
echo_blades
it's been a mile since It's been a while since I've done um a metal pin, too. think that's what like most people start with anyways.
00:48:58
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah i think so a lot of people do the brass pins and stuff but
00:49:04
echo_blades
Yeah, and then you find out there's G10. Yeah.
00:49:08
Denis Tyrell
there is definitely some extra time sanding the pins there's there's definitely that so you don't dome the pins and and put the little
00:49:12
echo_blades
Yeah. Well, if you care, right.
00:49:18
echo_blades
Leave this the J hooks all over.
00:49:22
Denis Tyrell
Well, and the ring around the pin, right? If you just sand it with your hand, you'll get the little donut around the pin.
00:49:24
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:49:27
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:49:28
Denis Tyrell
and
00:49:28
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:49:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. But it didn't take me that long. And, yeah, I love how they came out. So, yeah.
00:49:36
echo_blades
yeah
00:49:38
Denis Tyrell
But, um yeah, it's good to get back to the old ways once in a while.
00:49:42
echo_blades
Yeah. How'd you finish it up?
00:49:45
Denis Tyrell
um I finished these. Well, they're stainless steel, so I wasn't going to use the Gator Skin. so i coated these with some uh pelican paste uh just to shine up the handles keep those nice and lustrous um put some nice pelican paste soft wax on these babies and uh yeah they're they're good to go now so if you need something to put on your knives uh hard wax soft wax pelican oil which
00:49:57
echo_blades
Mm-hmm.
00:50:17
Denis Tyrell
I never did get around to getting at Bladeshow, so now i got to go on the website and buy some. And you need some hand salve and soap to keep your hands all pretty. Mine look like talons of a dragon right now.
00:50:34
Denis Tyrell
Or you need some... It's butter not? Is that... is that It is. Okay.
00:50:39
echo_blades
you better not You better not mess that up, dude.
00:50:39
Denis Tyrell
I'll make sure.
00:50:42
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. um to season your cast iron pans. So all that stuff and more, go get yourself some at PelicanPaste. Use the discount code TTT10.
00:50:55
Denis Tyrell
i Tell Travis we sent you because, you know, he's a good guy and we want to tell him that we sent you.
00:51:04
echo_blades
Yeah, he needs to know. Jeez. It's bottom line. He just needs to know.
00:51:09
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:51:12
echo_blades
Cool.
00:51:13
Denis Tyrell
So... so
00:51:13
echo_blades
Well, our, our last guy, ah sponsor, not guy. Um, Hey, we had some pretty big news come out of, uh, his, uh, his shop in the last couple of weeks. You probably have already known. i think last week we were talking about it, but, um, I think he made it, uh, official.

Rebranding and Project Updates

00:51:32
echo_blades
He's,
00:51:33
echo_blades
rebranding rock solid skills. Um, and the official name is, uh, grip tech industries. Um, and the IG handle is a grip tech official.
00:51:49
echo_blades
Um, and grip tech is now called grip X. So, uh, he did put out a post, um, last week kind of explaining what was going on. And there's a bunch of reasons. If you're,
00:52:02
echo_blades
ah the way he explained it, it kind of makes, makes sense that he's, this wasn't just a, uh, out of the blue thing that he did. Um, but it's been in the works for a while.
00:52:13
echo_blades
And, long story short, it seems that, uh, it, it was easier for him to rebrand than to kind of deal with some, um, not, not really legal stuff, but, uh, some trademark stuff from the grip tech name, I guess, overall. So, uh, same product.
00:52:32
echo_blades
Um, he is now really focusing more on, on the grip X, um, kind of exclusively. Uh, he did mention that he got into doing this just because uh, of, ah of wood.
00:52:45
echo_blades
Um, and he still got a shit ton of supplies there. So that's not going away, but, um, he will be focusing more on, on the grip X. So. If you're in the market for an outstanding newer handle material, go check out Grip Tech Industries at Grip Tech Official um and load up the cart and use the discount code TTT10 for 10% off your next purchase.
00:53:14
Denis Tyrell
I've used it. It's awesome.
00:53:16
echo_blades
It's fantastic.
00:53:20
Denis Tyrell
Cool, cool.
00:53:22
Denis Tyrell
So what's what's your next project? What are you working on besides this chef knife?
00:53:26
echo_blades
I have two more chef knives. um I have about five things. Well, no. Two, four things.
00:53:40
echo_blades
Two chef knives and chupacabra. couple things to just wrap up that are there at the finishing edge. And then i have probably, i still have a bunch of those the chef knives that we forged out.
00:53:57
echo_blades
that are, I need to get done. But, um, I also have five or six billets of some cool patterns that we've done that I want to finish up there. So, um, that's really the, uh, the focus right now,
00:54:17
Denis Tyrell
You should get those all like,
00:54:19
echo_blades
the stainless billet. Like I, I, I got a bunch of stuff,
00:54:23
Denis Tyrell
but you should get a bunch of those like, okay, I'm going to do chef knives and batch like four of them at the same time and do the same processes on like, and do like four of them.
00:54:36
echo_blades
Yep. Yep.
00:54:39
Denis Tyrell
That'll get you motivated.
00:54:39
echo_blades
I agree.
00:54:40
Denis Tyrell
Well, at least until you get to hand sanding. Um,
00:54:43
echo_blades
Well, that's what happened. I have, that's where i got stuck in, in bailing out on the hand sanding. I, I, yeah, I have a, yeah, I just got to get through all the Jared effect, uh, builds and then we'll focus on some some more stuff.
00:54:54
Denis Tyrell
You know, there's a machine that'll help you out with that.
00:54:57
echo_blades
I do. I do use it all the time.
00:55:00
Denis Tyrell
Yes.
00:55:00
echo_blades
Mainly to get through that first grit though. That's kind of, I don't know.
00:55:02
Denis Tyrell
Yes, I agree.
00:55:04
echo_blades
There's still a, a labor of love that of actually just hand sanding on the higher finishes that I, I enjoy.
00:55:12
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:55:13
echo_blades
So, but I just don't like doing it for eight hours. That's all that's straight.
00:55:16
Denis Tyrell
Yes.
00:55:17
echo_blades
So
00:55:17
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, of course, we're talking about the... The Sandshark. So if you guys need help hand sanding, get yourself a hand ah hand sanding machine, the Sandshark from yours truly.
00:55:28
echo_blades
get yourself a pair of hands, another pair of hands. hear yourself.
00:55:31
Denis Tyrell
yeah yeah Get something else to do it.
00:55:32
echo_blades
a ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:35
Denis Tyrell
but ah But yeah, shameless plug for yours truly. Get Sandshark on my website. ah It will help you with your hand sanding.
00:55:45
echo_blades
Absolutely. Yeah. You know what i was thinking about was actually posting some of the, or, or the blade show picks that I did that I took that I have not posted yet.
00:55:57
echo_blades
Now that it's been about over a month now, try to relive all that.
00:56:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I didn't post any of those pictures from Bladeshow.
00:56:06
echo_blades
Yeah. Neither did I, but.
00:56:07
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I'm just not a good social media person.
00:56:12
echo_blades
Me either, as of lately. so
00:56:14
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:56:14
echo_blades
But yeah, I was thinking about doing that and kind of spreading out the the Blade Show spirit over a little bit of time here. Because you get that flood of everybody doing it right after, you know?
00:56:23
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:56:27
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:56:27
echo_blades
And then there's... ahead.
00:56:30
Denis Tyrell
I usually do a ah Blade Show recap YouTube video, but since I did the the Blade Show pre-video, I didn't think people wanted to hear more about Blade Show and everything to happen.
00:56:46
Denis Tyrell
So, yeah, I didn't do it, which is usually where I put those pictures. But, yeah.
00:56:53
echo_blades
Gotcha.
00:56:55
Denis Tyrell
I don't know. i'm I am just not. much into Instagram these days. I'm not posting much. don't know the occasional story, but not, you know, the pictures like from Coop and stuff like that, of course I'll post. But other than that, i haven't really put much out on on Instagram lately.
00:57:16
echo_blades
Hmm. That's something got to do too, is finish up my website.
00:57:20
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, get on it.
00:57:21
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:57:22
Denis Tyrell
What are you using for that?
00:57:24
echo_blades
I don't know.
00:57:25
Denis Tyrell
You don't know.
00:57:26
echo_blades
No, my wife surprised me with the, with the domain and the, and what is up.
00:57:30
Denis Tyrell
So you have the domain.
00:57:32
echo_blades
I have the domain. I have a website that's, but it's just, she just slapped it together real quick and then we were supposed to sit down and I don't know.
00:57:38
Denis Tyrell
wait What did she buy the domain on?
00:57:41
echo_blades
And I can't remember. Yeah. Brent and I were just having this conversation the other day and I couldn't recall. So, um,
00:57:48
Denis Tyrell
got My website is through GoDaddy and their their website builder super easy.
00:57:54
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:57:54
Denis Tyrell
um So especially if you've got the the domain through them, their website builder is free.
00:58:00
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:58:03
Denis Tyrell
So I think it's...
00:58:03
echo_blades
yeah I don't know. I i haven't spent any ah second working on it. So, but that's something I got to do too as well.
00:58:13
Denis Tyrell
Yep.
00:58:15
Denis Tyrell
Come on, man.
00:58:17
echo_blades
Yeah. I'm just sitting here doing nothing. It's great. Join me.
00:58:21
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:58:25
echo_blades
oh It's good times.

Relaxation and Historical Insights

00:58:27
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
00:58:27
echo_blades
So I did watch this thing and we're going to wrap this up real quick because it's almost an hour now and I'm actually tired. So I was watching this YouTube video. So I started, you fall asleep in the quiet.
00:58:43
echo_blades
You have any noise? Are you, you need white noise of anything, any kind of fan or something like that?
00:58:45
Denis Tyrell
No. No.
00:58:48
echo_blades
You're just silence and you're out.
00:58:49
Denis Tyrell
No, i'm I'm a silent room kind of person.
00:58:53
echo_blades
Yeah, not me.
00:58:53
Denis Tyrell
I can't fall and fall asleep in front of the TV downstairs, but not in the not in my bedroom for some reason.
00:58:59
echo_blades
Oh, and interesting. Yeah, I don't know, man. i if i If it's quiet, I ain't sleeping. So i I always have something going. We have fan noises, sound machines, waves. fuck like it's It's pretty loud ah and in my room.
00:59:15
Denis Tyrell
um
00:59:17
echo_blades
But Lynn's the same way. she I prefer the TV on.
00:59:20
Denis Tyrell
Hope so. She's in the same room.
00:59:22
echo_blades
No, I'm saying like that with the TV, like at all of that stuff.
00:59:23
Denis Tyrell
oh
00:59:25
echo_blades
You know, I prefer the TV to be on and out and I'll pass out in three seconds. But if it's off and she's complete opposite. So we have the sound machine and all that crap like that. But anyway, so I'll sometimes I'll put an earbud in and I'll put some dumb ass YouTube thing on. So I actually found this channel that's called Boring History to Fall Asleep to.
00:59:52
Denis Tyrell
is Is it really what it's called?
00:59:52
echo_blades
Dude, I swear, that's exactly what it's called. And I searched it and I was like, cause I used to listen to this one called weird history and you know, they're like 15 minute clips. and And normally by then I'm, I, I normally fall asleep, but this one's there. I can't believe there's like, it's a huge channel.
01:00:12
echo_blades
I can't believe there's many people that subscribe to this dumb ass channel, but they're long ass videos and, are ah They are videos, but they're not really. So anyways, I've been doing that. And then every now and again, they' I'll put one that peaks my interest. And then I'm like trying to fight to stay awake because I'm trying to listen. It's kind of counterproductive.
01:00:33
echo_blades
But I did find one about what it would be like if you were an actual blacksmith in the Middle Ages. And it was interesting. it was interesting ah the is just it It was definitely not as glamorous as we make it out to be now.
01:00:52
Denis Tyrell
thank
01:00:53
echo_blades
like
01:00:53
Denis Tyrell
I don't think it's been glamorous at all.
01:00:53
echo_blades
i think I don't know, man. there's yeah watch Watch ah all the all the channels and all the you know the about you know being... I can't think of the word.
01:01:10
echo_blades
God damn it. You know when you're doing it...
01:01:10
Denis Tyrell
Prestigious?
01:01:12
echo_blades
Yeah. yeah or Traditional. You're doing the traditional blacksmithing and stuff. But ah they were just kind of going off about like, there wasn't even, it was mostly barter.
01:01:18
Denis Tyrell
like
01:01:22
echo_blades
There wasn't really actual money. So like, you're going to make a fucking wagon wheel for three chickens. And I was like, yeah, for food.
01:01:30
Denis Tyrell
for food.
01:01:32
echo_blades
And, and then you're like in charge of like, you're always on call. Cause somebody's fucking plow breaks or something like that. And you know, like, I don't know. It, it was about 15, 20 minutes on this, this video of, of what it was like and and the conditions and everything. And I was just like,
01:01:47
echo_blades
Yeah, I'm glad I didn't watch this before I started all this crap because this shit did.
01:01:53
Denis Tyrell
i think I guess it depends what kind of... Were you the blacksmith for the royal court? Were you the blacksmith for like...
01:02:00
echo_blades
Even worse, they they were they were talking about if you were word for the royal court, you probably had these fucking holier than thou, better than you customers that didn't want to pay you and wanted everything right away and had to be perfect.
01:02:01
Denis Tyrell
the
01:02:11
echo_blades
Can you imagine like fitting up some top fucking little night of some kind that was like no this doesn't fit right like you know because if it's too big they're gonna you know they can't move and it's too tight they can't you know their life depends on it like I don't know man the whole thing just didn't it put a whole spin on it that I was just like oh man this this would be horrible no tools your tools break you got to make new tools I mean like yeah
01:02:32
Denis Tyrell
ah Yeah.
01:02:38
Denis Tyrell
your Your only tool is a hammer and a spinning stone.
01:02:43
echo_blades
yeah that's it yeah
01:02:43
Denis Tyrell
That's your that's it
01:02:45
echo_blades
It was, you know, coal forge bellows and like starting your apprenticeship. You were like, they were like starting kids out of like seven years old. So by 17, you had a 10 year apprenticeship already there and that's your back's already fucked up, but you know, yeah, yeah, exactly.
01:02:58
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, you already have the beginnings of lung cancer by then from the coal.
01:03:04
echo_blades
The life expectancy was less than any other tradesman. Like it it was interesting. That one kept me up for a little bit. So, but yeah,
01:03:10
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm not that much into forging, you know, the traditional ways. I'm always looking for the shortcuts.

Spotlight on Knife Makers and Their Craftsmanship

01:03:20
Denis Tyrell
And yeah, that's bullshit.
01:03:21
echo_blades
No. Yeah.
01:03:22
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:03:23
echo_blades
I gotta agree. I agree. Thank God they made a press and a power hammer.
01:03:27
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, absolutely.
01:03:29
echo_blades
Yeah. But.
01:03:30
Denis Tyrell
yeah I got forge out that, um, the Nickel Storm, the the other Nickel Storm buoy I did with the channel. Well, I have the other piece from that, so I'm forging the buoy to that one.
01:03:40
echo_blades
here Okay.
01:03:45
echo_blades
Yeah. God, I have so much. I got the feather billet that Mike and I did that I want to forge and It's a good problems to have.
01:03:51
Denis Tyrell
Get busy, man. Yeah.
01:03:54
echo_blades
Too much to do.
01:03:55
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's that whole pesky day job thing.
01:03:58
echo_blades
It's really, really lame.
01:04:01
Denis Tyrell
oh Oh. What do you got for, who do you got for Maker Spotlight?
01:04:08
echo_blades
um Oh, I have not ready. um the The guy's name is Nelson Chen knives.
01:04:26
Denis Tyrell
I was not following him.
01:04:30
Denis Tyrell
So tell tell me about him.
01:04:30
echo_blades
Yeah. um Yeah. So I am trying to get there. He's a cleaver specialist and he is on high ah cleaver specialist is what it says.
01:04:36
Denis Tyrell
Cleaver?
01:04:39
echo_blades
And he's, it says he's on hiatus, but he just was posting something not too long ago. He's got 1600. and 83 followers. The IG handle is just that his name, Nelson Chen Knives.
01:04:52
echo_blades
But yeah, he popped up in my feed and i was looking at some of the stuff he was doing and I was just like, good God, lot of Hamon. He had this real cool post about a knife that he made um and it's been used weekly.
01:05:11
echo_blades
for I think five years and the patina on it was, it's said the first post that he's got up there. It's just incredible.
01:05:20
Denis Tyrell
And typically we're talking about mostly Chinese cleavers here. We're not talking about big bone cleavers.
01:05:26
echo_blades
ah Okay.
01:05:26
Denis Tyrell
These are.
01:05:28
echo_blades
Yeah. Thank you.
01:05:29
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:05:30
echo_blades
You go check it out and see all of them. Um, but yeah, really cool stuff. Um, and I thought I'd just give them a shout. So,
01:05:38
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. I see he's got ones with with hollow grinds in the center, like S-grind kind of things.
01:05:45
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:05:46
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. He's got some beautiful stuff.
01:05:50
echo_blades
Yeah. Really good stuff.
01:05:51
Denis Tyrell
A lot of Japanese-ish, Chinese-ish influence, I think. lot of wah handles.
01:05:59
echo_blades
A lot of wall handles.
01:06:00
Denis Tyrell
Yeah.
01:06:01
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:06:02
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, very cool.
01:06:02
echo_blades
Really cool stuff. Yeah. And I, like I said, just randomly popped up in my feed and I was like, that patina just looks fucking incredible.
01:06:12
Denis Tyrell
Very cool.
01:06:14
echo_blades
I dig Patina. So, yeah, go check them out. Give them a follow. Tell them the boys at Triple T sent you. Who you got? 257.
01:06:22
Denis Tyrell
I have someone, um, Benjamin's B N Benjamins Benjamin's underscore blades. He's only got 256 followers.
01:06:35
Denis Tyrell
Um, hobby knife maker in Western Australia. Um, just some really nice stuff.
01:06:40
echo_blades
two fifty seven
01:06:41
Denis Tyrell
Um, I love that the second knife in his, uh, grid there.
01:06:45
echo_blades
Oh, yeah. That's gorgeous.
01:06:47
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. Really nice. Um,
01:06:51
echo_blades
He's doing satin finish. Look at him.
01:06:52
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, yeah. I don't know if it's the lighting or, because the third picture is that same knife and it looks, yeah, it must just be the lighting. um Yeah, some beautiful, beautiful work.
01:07:06
Denis Tyrell
um Some nice, if you scroll down, he's got some cool chef knife handles, just some interesting stuff.
01:07:15
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:07:15
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, good good to spotlight some of the, I don't know if he's a newer maker, but you only 256 followers. We need to give this guy some love and get him show his stuff off to more people.
01:07:27
echo_blades
Absolutely.
01:07:31
echo_blades
Yep.
01:07:32
Denis Tyrell
So yeah, so Benjamins underscore blades, go give him a follow.
01:07:33
echo_blades
Yep, yep, yep.
01:07:40
echo_blades
Do it.
01:07:41
Denis Tyrell
Do it, do it now.
01:07:45
Denis Tyrell
All right, man. any Anything fun coming up this week? or It's all work and no play.
01:07:52
echo_blades
That is it. That is it. And you're busy all weekend, huh?
01:07:57
Denis Tyrell
I have a Thursday, Friday, Saturday class. And of course, you look at the weather, it's like a pyramid from now until Thursday. The temperature goes up every day.
01:08:10
Denis Tyrell
And it peaks on Thursday, and then it starts ramping down. And Thursday is the day we have to forage. So I was...
01:08:16
echo_blades
oh Oh, it's 101. Oh, God.
01:08:20
Denis Tyrell
That's by you.
01:08:20
echo_blades
oh Yeah, it's I'm a couple hotter.
01:08:24
Denis Tyrell
Yeah. It's 94 here. So I emailed the guys... 94.
01:08:35
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:08:35
Denis Tyrell
Emailed the guys and said, look, we're going to optimize... for uh fewer forge weld sessions so we're going to be doing i think definitely starting early but we're going to do twist damascus so we don't have to restack um and that'll be our cladding and then we're going to do the second forge weld the twist damascus copper core and then forge that so hopefully we'll be done by 1 p.m which is right when
01:08:42
echo_blades
Absolutely. Start early and.
01:09:06
Denis Tyrell
the sun hits the foraging area.
01:09:09
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:09:09
Denis Tyrell
So, uh, that's the goal to be done by early afternoon and then profiling. and I'd like to have those chef knives, um, even heat treated, um that first day so we can, uh, um, temper them, uh, overnight and, uh, continue working on them because they're going to have to, I want them to take, take them to the etching process. So,
01:09:34
Denis Tyrell
They're going to have to hand sand those blades while they're here, so that's going to take them some time. so But they're here for three days. so
01:09:43
echo_blades
Two guys?
01:09:44
Denis Tyrell
Two guys, um both Patreon members. One guy, actually, you met at Jeff Brumbaugh. You met at Blade Show.
01:09:57
Denis Tyrell
Maybe you met him.
01:09:57
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:09:57
Denis Tyrell
i don't know if you were at the...
01:09:58
echo_blades
I think I do. Yeah, I think I know.
01:09:58
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, I think you did.
01:09:59
echo_blades
Yeah, yeah. He's good guy.
01:10:00
Denis Tyrell
He's coming, and then Dan, another another one of my Patreon members.
01:10:05
echo_blades
They're not local though, right?
01:10:07
Denis Tyrell
Neither one's local. One's Oklahoma, if I'm doing it from memory, and the other one's in North or South Carolina.
01:10:08
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:10:11
echo_blades
yeah cool
01:10:14
Denis Tyrell
One of the Carolinas. Dan's from me. I think it's North Carolina.
01:10:20
Denis Tyrell
So, think they get to experience the California weather, but... I told them we might be jumping in the pool after the second forge well, and we'll see how it goes.
01:10:30
echo_blades
horrible yeah that's gotta to be that's gotta to suck right on
01:10:37
Denis Tyrell
Hey, I invited you over for a pool, and you declined, so you're golfing next time.
01:10:41
echo_blades
and I was golfing.
01:10:46
Denis Tyrell
Well, hopefully ever get these damn jet skis back. Yeah.
01:10:46
echo_blades
Yep.
01:10:48
echo_blades
Yeah, that's what I'm into right there.
01:10:51
Denis Tyrell
A couple weeks. Hopefully... I was going to mid-July. It's already the 7th of July already. We're almost in mid-July.
01:11:02
echo_blades
Jeez.
01:11:04
Denis Tyrell
Crazy.
01:11:05
echo_blades
Yep.
01:11:05
Denis Tyrell
I got five weeks and I'm going to be in um Minnesota.
01:11:12
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:11:12
Denis Tyrell
can't believe that.
01:11:13
echo_blades
yeah As we get, as that day gets closer and closer, I'm i'm less and less bummed that I'm not going.
01:11:22
echo_blades
what What day is it?
01:11:24
Denis Tyrell
um I think, yeah it's the weekend of the 15th.
01:11:25
echo_blades
The 15th? Yeah. And then sure shit, I had a, I'll be in I think Washington that week anyway. So I wouldn't be able to go.
01:11:33
Denis Tyrell
Yeah, it's the the fifteenth sixteenth and then I'm at North Star Forge the seventeenth and
01:11:43
echo_blades
yeah
01:11:43
Denis Tyrell
and fly back the nineteen
01:11:45
echo_blades
Yeah, it wasn't going to work out anyway. so
01:11:48
Denis Tyrell
yeah
01:11:49
echo_blades
but Right on. Well, I'm good, man. I'm tired. Let's wrap this thing up.
01:11:55
Denis Tyrell
All right, man. I've had enough of you, too.
01:11:57
echo_blades
Yeah. See you tomorrow.
01:12:00
Denis Tyrell
I can't see. i can't find the damn button. All right.
01:12:03
Denis Tyrell
Bye.
01:12:03
echo_blades
ah Yes.
01:12:06
echo_blades
We've heard that. ah
01:12:12
echo_blades
Dennis can't find the button. Dennis can't find the button.
01:12:15
Denis Tyrell
Start my life.
01:12:21
echo_blades
that's a wrap.