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Ad Hominem or Red Herring?
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Unprecedented Events in the Guillotine League
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Speaker
Welcome to The Chopping Block, the guillotine league podcast made for you. We are in unprecedented times.
00:00:17
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Daniel Bigelow doesn't start his players, goes out 40 points, the lowest ever.
Early Morning Meltdowns
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And then Spencer has and absolute meltdown at 6 a.m. on Wednesday.
Inactive Managers: A Hidden Benefit?
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We're here to give the people what they want.
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Spencer, what do the people want? ah ah For D-Big, I actually think the people are down with what they got. because Yeah,
00:00:53
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i don't think anyone's mad at someone's own knowing their entry. Yeah, literally sacrificing their players. Like, yeah, this is the one league where if you're not active, it's a win, win for everyone. and We got, we got your funds and, uh,
00:01:08
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We can do what we love to do in other leagues when you have shitty inactive managers, and that is just kick them. And we got to do it. So it's perfect. oh what What people want for the other point, i think I don't know, man. I think you need to make a statement. i didn't I did not read my mind. this morning. yeah im I'm the victim of hominem attacks this morning. You're a victim?
00:01:34
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I am of ad hominem attacks for music. What the hell even is ad hominem?
Exploring Ad Hominem Attacks
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Look it up. Google it. I can't portray it that. hominem. That's a fallacy?
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yeah ah Directed against a person rather than the position they're maintaining? That's right. You called me a hamster. you sent Spongebob texts that said I'm against this, you know, stuff like that rather than trying to defend your case.
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all Yeah, i got I was the victim of attack. um i i was explain to
00:02:26
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shit That's funny. Dude, i was ah i I was up. you know It's funny to see the group of people that chat at 1 a.m. m and the pet group of people that chat at 6 a.m.
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What are you trying to tell you then? like it did's differently There were two groups. Yeah. We're leading different lives. oh Cause it's funny. I like, you know, wake up at six, like look at my messages, like, oh, people were like five hours ago, like all these people are messaging.
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And so, you I joined the chat and then boom, all these other homies joined the chat. Like, all right, we got a 6 a.m. crew. And so I'm just like chilling with my kid, you know, in the other room, like being a keyboard warrior at 6 a.m. It's awesome.
00:03:14
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Beautiful Wednesday. oh It's the best. But don't know. Statement, dude. The statement is the fucking read the rules.
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but doesn explicitly state one way or the other. it does. Here's what it says. Here's what it says. I quote. And I quote.
Podcast Rules vs. Enron Scandal
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a Or is this shit?
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ah The selling manager will receive the winning fab.
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That's pretty clear to me That's pretty clear. Yeah, yeah. But like, like that's like... Like, you know about Enron? You know those boys, right?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, their whole thing was like, you know, we're profiting or something from these companies, but the companies were themselves. So, like, they weren't really profiting.
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So, like, it's the same. same like Is that what happened with Enron? fuck shit like that Yeah, they took all the money and then they were putting it in, like, like uh side companies that were buying a bunch of fit from them but it was really just them selling their own stuff to themselves and claiming the profits that didn't exist and then there's no money yeah that's what happens no you're you're enron bro you're literally enron
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i I'll be honest, I don't even know the Enron story, so I can't fact
Enron Parallels and Podcast Humor
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check you on that. but I'll send you a documentary tonight. That sounds oddly specific to my situation, so maybe I am Enron.
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You are Enron, and ah it destroyed the lives of millions of Americans.
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Hey, I'm pioneer. Enron was a pioneer, I would actually say. They just gave shit. They were. They were. They were.
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Bro, they went into history books. Yeah, they were like the search. I swear they like tried to trade and right energy or something. As it was the year we're in right now with Robinhood, which you could like trade on the Enron platform.
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um don't know, man. it is They had some rules like this. and They were shady. You know, they were pioneers and, you know, because of what they did, you know, others profited by you know, learning from from from what they pulled off. So, you know, I think probably the same goes here.
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And the others, is what you're saying? i Sure. The funny thing is, I got a click great... I didn't come up looks with the harebrained scheme. i What I did was a safeguard. okay that's you know That just makes sense. you like If you're going to sell a player, like put in a little safeguard. Now, I'll say, my safeguard I thought was going to be surpassed.
00:06:29
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I did not expect to win back. Dude, he scored like 14 points in three weeks. What do you mean? Well, he's elite, but he has sucked, yes. I was very surprised Trey Benson went for more than Brian Thomas.
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that That was a little crazy. But... ah um yeah so i safeguarded right but you you come up with this you write this essay like oh i'm gonna i'm gonna dm everybody and fucking just suck them off and sell my player and and yada yada i'm like whoa where's all this coming from it's not what i did
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Allegedly? How do I know? How do I know? Allegedly? i know' thought No one bought BGJ. But what if someone said they wouldn't and they finessed you?
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And now you don't want to speak up to it because you're like, hey, Joel, I really want this guy. How's if you put him on the block and I'll pay $400? And you're like, okay, that sounds awesome.
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Okay, I'll fess up. Then you covered your tracks, but this did in to make sure you know it went through. and you woke up this morning, you're like, oh, what the fuck? I didn't give my 400 bucks.
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I wonder if that's what happened. I'll fess up. Okay. It was you. You told me you would give me 400 bucks. And you didn't do it. Honestly, and my money would be on Chris. You and him, you guys got something going.
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So I don't know. Nah, dude. That's crazy. That's crazy. I didn't even think about that until you said it. I'm like, damn, that's that's some freaking... I mean, legal, I guess, but that's some such shit, dude.
00:08:08
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I would never do that. I'm down to one ticket. I'm for the people. I gave a ticket for the people. and get You're welcome. For the people. Yeah, so...
00:08:21
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Honestly, it just want to spice it up. Like, one's sold a player yet. I'm like, shit, I'll do it.
Strategies in Player Selling and Ticket Use
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Might as well. But you didn't. winner Well, well i unfortunately the unfortunately, yes. Unfortunately, yes.
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oh But, you know, when are you going to sell a player, huh? Well, I might be doing it next week now that I know how the rule works. But i was I was under the impression, you know, that i literally thought once I put my player up, I can't get him back. He's done.
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So no shot. I'm selling one of my boys right now. My squad is – they're cheeks. Yeah. He saved you. He did. 100% did. So I can't – I can't be – ah can't be you know Where my mind mindset was, I can't be putting my players up on the block. I'm i'm trying to survive. Yeah, well, we'll see. yeah um'm you know i just ah I just wanted to spur the ticket redemption. wanted to get people excited, yeah using up their tickets. took one for the team, used my ticket, showed them how it's done.
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Really just an emergent strategy. know So you're welcome.
00:09:37
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I think you got chill on the your welcomes here.
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and Also, since you mentioned Chris, it's actually kind of funny because the solo player was Chris's idea. but See, that maybe. I'm just saying you and Chris throughout the years and differently. It's a great idea.
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You've had some ah so sneaky business going on after all. Sneaky business. Bro, if Enron is sneaky, then sure. Enron was extremely sneaky. No, They were... Nuh-uh.
00:10:14
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Okay, I'll send you the video and you can watch it. It's a good flick. Okay. So, what you're basically trying to say is you're not a hamster. I'm not a hamster.
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I'm not...
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okay i'm not I don't know why I'm being framed as a villain here. I'm actually ah very much against what was what went down this morning. You were against it?
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and and I'm disgusted by yeah it. You were having a good time. I'm disgusted by The other night, I don't stand for it.
00:10:53
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In one of our chats, you started a sentence with someone argue with me. yeah I think you're just itching for a good argument. I said that, I'm trying to be more respectful.
00:11:09
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So I was starting it with like, you know, someone argues me, because I didn't want just come out on blast and just be like, go literally brain dead for doing this. Because that's what I thought. Assuming, assuming that you couldn't pick him back up. That's why I said that.
Humor in Miscommunication
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Here, I'll i'll quote um something from the bug, um the chummy bug. Those are clear things up, okay? this those so clear things up okay He says, paid the into the system,
00:11:43
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won the bid so he gets the three twenty five back and keeps the play that's how it is
00:11:53
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I didn't clear anything, man. And you said you said, quote, watching it play out is actually dumb. It is.
00:12:03
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You're just mad. I'm not mad. It's just, it's it's dumb. How much would you buy BTJ for? I'll sell them to you next week. ah Check my bid. I put a bid on them.
00:12:16
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Okay, let's see. Let's see what your bid was.
00:12:22
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$101. I'll pay $101. That's a little too low for me. JT put $1. Hey, that's pretty good. I mean, I think that's the right price. I got T. Higgins for like $30, and he's been just his cheeks.
00:12:38
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You got him for $69. Oh, $69. Okay. Sick. Yeah, he has been just his cheeks, actually. Yeah, so, I mean, $101 seems...
00:12:50
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I got Travis Hunter for $9. I know. I think that's a good value. He's been even more cheeks. I got both cheeks receivers on my team.
00:13:03
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Let's go. Okay, well, I don't know if I have anything else say other than D-Biggs is a silly goose, ah but I'm happy with what he did because ah we're all still here.
00:13:18
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And Put in those tickets, guys.
Encouraging Player Sales
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Sell some players. Obviously, you see how electric it could be, so, you know, get in there.
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Or don't. I can fuck.
00:13:33
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Get in there. Sell them back to yourself.
00:13:40
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Use some Enron shit, you know. It's really fun.
00:13:47
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okay okay That's all I got. That's all you had for this week? is just absolutely You didn't want to talk about Bid and you just wanted to... don't fucking I mean, sure, we talk about whatever. ah du I don't know um know if anyone's going to do the podcast, to be honest with you.
00:14:07
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I mean, D-Biggs was a lock for not doing the podcast. We already know that. Yeah, D-Biggs is not going do the podcast. Why are you laughing? We got... we got We got guest on the podcast, I hear.
00:14:21
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and Who? Ashley? Yeah. What's new here? Does she want to comment it on the state of affairs? No, she just walked in and i have my camera, like I'm doing dishes and my camera's not on, thankfully. Bro, that sounds backwards.
00:14:40
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but What do you mean? Just that situation you just described sounds backwards. but but What's backwards about it? Um... why Why is Ashley not doing the dishes?
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I
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don't see. she was She was just freaking out because she thought she was on camera. And I assured her she's not. And she's like, I don't want to be on camera. I don't want them to see me.
00:15:07
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now she can hear her in the background being like freaking out.
00:15:14
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Okay. Okay. I think she's having a heart attack. She literally... die She's famous. Boys, put a put a fucking emoji in the chat for Ashley.
00:15:26
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i don't know which one. Just pick one that fits. well Spencer's about to get married soon. So that's a congrats. Yep. Yeah, that's true. um yeah what do you think the over-under is for people who are going to do the podcast? I'm thinking like three. I'll go five. Five?
00:15:47
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Five. okay I take the honor.
00:15:52
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I think five. Okay. I think maybe just we have some silly gooses getting out early.
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Maybe. Who you think going to get out next?
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I mean... Me?
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You almost got out, but... i mean That means that you've... This is really bad logic. I'm going to jinx myself. So I shouldn't even say it, but I'll say it anyways. Just a little bit of sport.
00:16:22
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Like, if you, like, have a really shitty week, like, you know, another one's probably coming, but, like, not back-to-back, you know? That's what I think. That's what I think. You can't have back-to-back bad weeks.
00:16:34
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Yeah. So not to say like a city was not in my future again, but like back to back to just dog water. Nah, I'll be good the next week.
00:16:46
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Okay. You know, feel like Chris has been teetering on the edge recently, but he, he a scataboo that helps him out. I don't know. i think chase was worried.
00:16:59
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um but bug's worried.
Concerns Over Team Rosters
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Bug is, i think the bugs always worried.
00:17:08
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Um, yeah, well, maybe the bug should be worried, actually. Did you just look at his roster? I did. Who the hell is H. Fanon?
00:17:21
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Who is that? It's sad, man. you're You're turning into a geezer, a dad. I can tell. You are a dad. But you're just like, who the hell is this Fanon guy?
00:17:33
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and' Come on. Rookie, tight end. What happened to Joku? He's still there, but you know he's just shit. Damn. Okay.
00:17:45
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Sick. Wow. Who's this Jamar Chase fellow? also said that Nico Collins sucks. You did. You did. It's okay. I mean, you're you're embracing your...
00:18:02
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I'm a boomer now. What can I say? I mean, I'm not going to pull D-Biggs and just not set my roster because I'm a dad. but ah Yeah, that was just that was just dog. i don't know i might not know who Harold is. Yeah, I just ah don't know what that was, D-Biggs.
00:18:22
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He's definitely not listening to this. Yeah, I don't think he's listening. I put the over-under on podcast list and guillotine lifetime at 10. tim What are you taking over-under on that joint?
00:18:33
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For D-bids? Yeah. Dude, I put like 5K on the under.
00:18:40
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oh He's catching some shade. Who who do you think going out? This next week? Yeah.
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I'm
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going to throw random dart and go with Mitch. Pretty sure I don't even know what his team looks like. I'm doing the dishes, but I'm pretty sure I saw his warning. He hasn't spent any fab. So that's the only reason I'm saying that name.
00:19:08
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Okay. Do have a thousand bucks still? You're fucked. You're fucked, but that doesn't mean you're going risky now. And I'm not surprised. Mitch did the same straight last year. but strike if you could catch a straight.
00:19:28
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You never know. You never know. I think he has the most points for Mitch. yeah Mitch is 3-0 in his little matchups with the most points for and $1,000. Yeah.
00:19:41
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I mean, that's the perfect perfect call by me. i mean It is the perfect call. The Browns are shit on the Packers. We thought they were the best team in football last week. So you never know. What's that quote that Denville Washington says? It's something like, when you're at the highest peak is when you're the weakest or some shit.
00:20:02
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You what I'm talking about? No, not
Favorite Logical Fallacies
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at all. I'll send that in chat. lot references today, boys. You pulled it out. Ad hominem, Enron, fucking Denzo.
00:20:15
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Shit. and so That's why I'm here, man. That's why I'm here. All right. Well, we made it to the end. Drop your favorite fallacy in the chat. I i think Garrett's is probably straw
00:20:32
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I think heard him say that before. What's your favorite? don't fucking know let me look up popular fallacies do you like the what about the cave one it's like someone's cave fallacy that that's a good one slippery slope no no no it's like uh it's like one of those like old theologian it that's not even the right word but old philosophers it's like plato plato's cave fallacy look at that one
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Oh, you know what?
Red Herring Fallacy Anecdotes
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My favorite fousey is the red herring. Oh, you like the red herring? I love it The hamster was a red herring. Did you call your cock the red herring back in the day?
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ah Yeah. my thought.
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Yep. Actually, that's that's Eli.
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That was fucked, man.
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donald