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Season Finale Greetings

00:00:04
Speaker
Welcome to the Chopping Block, the guillotine league podcast made for you. Oh boy, here we are for the last time. Plus, you know, plus a couple other ah guys coming on

Special Guests: The Podium Brothers

00:00:19
Speaker
the pod today. We got the podium brothers on the podcast. I do have Spencer here. Hi, just here in water. Just got back from a bike ride. I was literally pulled into the driveway.

Listener Speculations and Humor

00:00:35
Speaker
30 seconds. What do you think the over under is on the listeners for this? Is that like can Mitch, does Mitch count for like Garrett's pod and Garrett counts for Mitch's? Uh, yeah, sure. Yeah. Then I'll put the over under at four and a half. That's, that's pretty good. I mean, JJ is going to listen. That's like almost a guarantee.
00:00:58
Speaker
Chase is going to listen. Yep. So we'll see. Okay. Okay. Um, Mitch, what's up, dude? What up boys? You're here. Uh, you got out like weeks ago, but we're doing the podcast.

Mitch's Reflections on the Season

00:01:15
Speaker
Uh, how was the feeling of being the, like the king of the season? Everyone's like, Oh, Mitch's got this thing wrapped up.
00:01:27
Speaker
Yeah, um you know, lots of pressure for sure. Everyone's saying like season's over, it's Mitch's by like week eight. So, ah you know, there's definitely a quota that I had to try to meet. um And, you know,
00:01:45
Speaker
i never i was I was getting a little hyped, like, oh, this thing might be mine. But ah you know it's fantasy football. Anything can happen. So it's never a guarantee. And and it it wasn't in the cards for me. Slightly my fault, but not in the cards. Slightly your fault. What happened?
00:02:06
Speaker
ah Yeah, I'm assuming everyone knows that one week that I didn't bid Kind of screwed me up a little bit Yeah, if I just picked up like sake one, I probably would have survived so ah and That's probably like the only guy I would have got he was in there. Maybe Nico Collins, but uh,
00:02:26
Speaker
you know If I got some good points from Saquon, I would have been through the to the next week. That's on me. Not been on Saquon. It's a pretty big sell. He's like the factor number one RB this year. yeah but i had like as but I had like eight bucks. Everyone else had like four or less, so I could have... Or maybe six, but I could have solidified him if I wanted to, but you know no bid. I just slipped through the fingers.
00:02:56
Speaker
yeah pretty wild pretty wild you see you got it you didn't bid and then you got out that week right that's correct uh okay well there you go ah choke to the finish line i did i did yeah it Um, yeah, I was in, I was in the playoffs in like five leagues, you know, I would do all my bids for certain stuff. I always kept guillotine for last. And then, you know, I just got busy that day and then 12 0 2 AM hit. And I was like, Oh no, I had like that, like that tick tock audio, like that do like realization that I fucked up go in my head. And then, uh, I knew, I knew it would be over from there.

Proposed Changes to Waiver Times

00:03:38
Speaker
Well, yeah, I think that's a funny, not funny, but I have a rule change proposition going into the next year. And that's a waiver should clear the next morning at a time that we can all be potentially awake for us. We don't have those midnight snipers.
00:03:55
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. That's valid because, uh, I go to bed at like nine 30 five and like all like nine nine or eight a.m. Seems pretty reasonable. Yeah. Yeah. I'll put a note for myself for 2025. Hi, 2025, Joel. What's up? Remember.
00:04:25
Speaker
Roll waivers at 9 a.m. on Wednesdays. That's good. You got anything for me, Mitch? You got any recommendations for Commish? I don't know. I feel like like how we did year two, some people know, some people don't. You just kind of threw in some random, some random things in there. We brought someone back. So maybe the numbers that one.

League Format Innovations and Twists

00:04:54
Speaker
oh Yeah, maybe not that again, but you know something similar in line Just throw a curve ball in there again instead of keeping it keeping it plain a little bit of sauce a little bit of zest Okay, I mean I think that was the plan this year, but the league almost folded. Yeah, so like Yeah Yeah, it made sense this year. Like half the league was new. So it made sense to just go back to the roots. Yeah. Yeah. Back to basics. I mean, uh, it's kind of, it's kind of crazy Mitch last year. You got last obviously devastating. That's like the worst. Yep. I haven't been there, but I've, you know, been in the bottom half and it's not very fun. And yeah, that was here. You are on the podium.
00:05:40
Speaker
Do you feel like you did enough to like even the odds or do you feel like you still fell short? ah you know i I'm feeling like I fell short. like it was It was winter bust and ah you know i I got to the podium but no not much further. um you know Obviously getting last, just it's all in the draft. There's nothing you can do until week one hits and you see where all your players stand in the offense.
00:06:11
Speaker
Um, glad I'm

Mitch's Journey to the Podium

00:06:13
Speaker
not there again, but, uh, cause you just have to kind of sit there all season and get notifications. Um, but you know, it's kind of a bust. I should have won it, but I'll take a podium. It's it's my best finish. So can't complain. Okay. Okay.
00:06:31
Speaker
, Mitch historically, you're you're a figure of this league, um in 2022, we did the the vote back, the infamous vote back. yeah And now that all those other boys are gone, the SoCo boys, I was As a commissioner, I was really trying to cook the books to get you back in. yeah I was texting people, I'm like, yo, ah you're going to need to change your vote. Yeah, I remember that year. like um ah had I said that I would immediately cut half my money on no one, and so I would hope that would ah intrigue a few guys. but
00:07:14
Speaker
You know, it didn't work out. I got second because, uh, I forget that guy's name, but he was, he just had like a cult following. So there was no beating it. Yeah. What, what'd you call Matt that year? Spencer is like something like, uh, it was a meat ride. Matt. Yeah. Everyone's riding his meat. Yeah. It was fire was crazy. Uh, I gotta bring that nickname back. That was meat, right. Matt here.
00:07:43
Speaker
Yeah, I was never beaten that. So, okay. Well, you've come a long way. You probably have one of the most interesting stories in the league, you know, from, from losing the vote back to meet, right? Matt, uh, getting last place last year and in, in being the forsaken King this year.

Draft Strategies and Bijan Robinson

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Speaker
yeah Um, what do you think is in store for next year, Mitch?
00:08:05
Speaker
um I feel like I'm just going to fall back to my basic. like I think I finished 9th and 10th as well, so or somewhere around there, maybe 11th. So that's why my name's average Andy, because I was in the middle of the pack for a good bit. But the new strat got me here. um you know i kind of i got ah I got pretty lucky though, like with Spencer's getting out. like He had a lot of money. He was the only other guy.
00:08:33
Speaker
that could even ah compete with the amount of funds I had, but once he went out, I was like, I knew I was gonna dominate. You're like rocking half my team too for a minute. Yeah. I remember looking on there, I'm like, yo, what the hell, this guy's got like my entire team, like I got shafted. Yes, similar to the, to the dynasty quarterback, one quarterback league. I just kind of tried to money ball it this year, just getting points in certain spots and,
00:09:01
Speaker
Um, there was, there was some big names out there that I didn't want for certain reasons, even though they were like Kings, like Derek Henry and I'm gonna Ross and Brown, I would pass up, but I knew that the points I needed in a certain spot, those guys weren't going to get me that, that week. So passed up on him. Uh, but yeah, fumbled it right at the end.
00:09:25
Speaker
Yeah, I mean you drafted uh some solid guys ah that helped obviously bijon uh was uh, honestly a guillotine like God this year. Yeah, he was great. I don't think he went pat like below 12 points. Uh Chris Godwin amazing first half. Yeah, um, unfortunately I know you had some good hits that got you to the spot where you could save some of that money, which is nice um Would you have done anything differently other than put in bids? No, I think I did everything I wanted to do my plan worked all the way but you know life happens and it it's a Defers your
00:10:14
Speaker
um Focus on fantasy football and it did that day for me. I got busy and it just Didn't work out, but that's probably the only thing bit on sake one and I think I could have done it Okay, okay Get any other thoughts for the boys closing out this year? I
00:10:41
Speaker
No, no. ah It was good. Garrett did great as well. like I think he got lost as well. And I feel like we have a similar story of being all over the place. So it was it was funny to see us two all the way there at the end, but still couldn't quite get it done. But it was a good year, you know um looking forward to the next one. and ah now that half the league is gone and all these new guys are here ah it's gonna be fun watching the strategies change and ah the new guys kind of understand fab a little bit more ah like the like the rest of us that have had the experience um but yeah who knows maybe Eli will bid 600 bucks on TJ Hawkinson next year
00:11:34
Speaker
Let's hope so. yeah Spencer, you got anything for Mitch before we close out? No, not really. I feel like there's not much here. We're good here. Mitch in general has been killing in fantasy lately, so he needs to teach us something.
00:11:53
Speaker
yeah
00:11:56
Speaker
Well, ah we're going to do a megapod, so boys keep listening, but Mitch, ah thank you. Yep, thanks boys. Appreciate it. See you all next year. Alright, you just heard from Mitch and that was pretty fun, wasn't it? Now it's about to get even more fun. ah We got your second place finisher. Finishing with a silver medal. The guy who everyone was rooting for. Big Daddy Garrett. Oh shit.
00:12:28
Speaker
What's up? It's the Eddie Garrett series. You're not sounding too big right now. No.
00:12:38
Speaker
Bro, what the hell? Why'd you lose? Oh, man. Honestly, well, I think I did the math and I'm pretty sure I would have lost no matter who I played. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't i don't think I would have won regardless.

Garrett's Reflections on Second Place

00:12:55
Speaker
Um, but well, I mean, obviously third people on the waiver wire that I could have played that, that would have won me the week. But, um, yeah, I think if I had started Brian Thomas over Nico Collins, it would have still been a loss for me. So although I texted JJ about like right after, and he was like, you know, it's kind of funny. You played defense to get Josh Allen and keep him away away from, um, from what's his bucket, Austin. and ah And then it ended up that that didn't actually, it actually hurt you by doing that. So I was like, yeah, you're right. That sucks. I was never planning on starting Josh Allen. I just, you know, I figured, you know, keep, keep him away from him, but he didn't even want him. So that was, ah that was maybe the weirdest. I was, I was just a completely, it was like a surreal moment when I looked at the waiver wire after they went through, I was like, what the,
00:13:54
Speaker
Like we only competed on two guys. This is so weird. Like I don't know. It was weird. that would die So yeah,
00:14:06
Speaker
I honestly, I was bummed obviously, but I, I mean, there was nothing really else I could have done unless I had just, you know, could see the future, but whatever. Yeah. I, I have to tell you something. You might not know. Oh, go for it.
00:14:21
Speaker
Uh, so wait, let me, let me scroll back. So the two guys you competed on. umma right Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He got both and won both of those because it was zero dollar bids. Right. The reason he won that was cause he had the last, you're the last person to pick up somebody. Yeah. I had priority. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah.
00:14:46
Speaker
Wait, you want both of them because of that? But I thought that it just would switch off after the first one. Well, I think what happened was the order of it was that like it did go back and forth, but the order of it it hit him on both of the back and forth. Right. Right. Right. Right. Yes. Yeah. So I know. Yeah. I think that I think I did know that I was like, well, shoot, he's going to get whoever he wants ah for like the first priority, but whatever. Yeah.
00:15:16
Speaker
would Would either of those guys have won me the week? I don't know a pe um b john did pretty good yeah and i don't think he started al mi oh he did oh yeah he did fine yeah yeah The other thing that I noticed was like all of my guys did good like I don't remember. I'm not looking at the score right now, but I think I think I had a few like explosive performances, but not Not that many like I think I had only one or two and everyone I think like like Lamar Jackson great 33 points, I think something like that. I can't, I can't ask for much more from a quarterback, unless you have Jayden Daniels, but, uh, and then, but yeah, everyone else was like, yeah, 14, 16, you know, it was nothing crazy. So I was like, you know, I was pretty happy with my score because I freaking posted it before the one o'clock games even started on Sunday, but yeah you know, but it is what it is.
00:16:11
Speaker
Yeah, definitely a tough one. You'd have to have picked up Malik neighbors and started him. I, oh yeah. Yeah. See, I didn't really have a lot of faith with, uh, with Drew lock, Mr. Irresponsible being the quarterback there. So, but he is like his only target. So and I was like, Oh man, I thought about it because I had him the week before or maybe two weeks. I don't know. But yeah.
00:16:39
Speaker
Well, uh, what do you think went wrong? Did you just, uh, the luck ran out? I guess. I mean, yeah, like I said, I don't, I don't even really feel like anything did go wrong. It was just like, he had a better roster. Honestly, the week before when you were talking to Mitch, I was like, a hundred percent. Joel is Joel is like preaching to the choir. You said something along the lines of like, you're basically just playing DFS right now, which is so true. I was like, literally just trying to hit on everyone, you know?
00:17:09
Speaker
Which is not that hard to do when you're getting, you know, you can choose everyone besides like, you know, 12, 15 guys. But I was, it was just like, you're trying to get everyone that's going to explode and that's, that's not easy. So yeah, I don't know. I feel like, I feel like 166 in the last week is like, not that bad. Like it could have won. It theoretically could have won. So I wasn't like, I wasn't.
00:17:33
Speaker
I wasn't mad. I was more like, dang, that's just kind of a bummer that his team happened. Cause I mean, he beat me by what, like 20. It wasn't even that close at the end. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you said you came in with some talking points. was i All right.
00:17:53
Speaker
ah
00:17:57
Speaker
So the first one, i don't know are you I don't know. I'm a little bit of a history buff. I don't know if you can you know that about me, but... What kind of history? Well, I mean all of it, but... All of history. Yeah.
00:18:13
Speaker
But, um, no, I just, I don't know, like, I don't know about you guys, but sometimes I'll like look something up and and I'll like, you know, obviously click on the Wikipedia link and then you just start fucking clicking all those links. You're like, oh shit, that looks interesting. So then I, you just get into like a Wikipedia deep, deep dive, you know? So that's like something I do often. Yeah. So I can't, I think that was sarcasm.
00:18:42
Speaker
Anyways, so I do that a lot. It happens, but, um, here's, here's why I'm bringing that up. Um, Joel, do you know, joe I'm asking Joel specifically because it kind of pertains to you. Do you, do you have much like NFL history and in that na going a year the Um, before like 2016. No. Okay. All right. That's what I thought. So here's, here's what I'm, uh, I just think that my, my experience in guillotine has some, some parallels to

AFL-NFL Merger Analogy

00:19:10
Speaker
NFL history. Here we go.
00:19:12
Speaker
So the NFL got its, got its start in like 1920 or something like that. And it like ruled the NFL or ruled like football in, in America. It was the, it was the league, but then in like the 1950s, maybe even the late forties, the AFL became a thing and they started competing. You probably know that. very Well in 19, I want to say 62, that sounds right.
00:19:40
Speaker
was the first time that they were like, all right, we're going to, we're going to like merge. We're going to turn this into one league. And the NFL had this like superiority complex. They're like, we're better than all of you bitches. Um, so, you know, we're just going to rule everything. And it was that way for the first two years after 1962, they played in the Superbowl. Well, they didn't actually call it that. They called it the championship game or whatever.
00:20:10
Speaker
And, uh, and both the first two Superbowls that were called championships were won by NFL teams. And then in the third year, you know, who won the Superbowl, which is actually, I think the first time they called it that, do you know, who won the the third Superbowl. Chicago. No, this is why I asked you because it was the New York Jets.
00:20:29
Speaker
So, the Jets fan doesn't know, it's okay. So, yeah, so that was the- Bro, I learned who Mark Sanchez was like eight months ago. You know Joe Nameth? Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah, I know Joe Nameth. All right. Yeah, so this is the Joe Nameth guaranteed. guaranteed Super Bowl win game When they when they said he was like, yeah, we're I guarantee we're gonna win the Super Bowl So they did so then that after that it was like, okay now this is like actually a league It's not just you know NFL versus AFL blah blah blah. So I say I bring all that up because This is this is the first year with all these these noobs, you know We got we got Austin the winner and then all these other guys said I don't really know some of them I've heard on the podcast whatever but um
00:21:18
Speaker
I basically can sit in this in my mind. and And let me ask you this. Let me ask you a question. Do you, who has, who has the most Super Bowls? Do you know? Uh, isn't like Steelers is up there and they're up there. Patriots are up there. I don't think the bears are up there. but It's like one of the.
00:21:41
Speaker
The Patriots are, I think the Patriots are first, I actually don't know, like right off the top of my head. Niners are, I think it's Patriots of the most and I think Steelers, Niners are. Steelers, Niners, something like that. Well anyways, some people, specifically Packers fans, will tell you that the Packers have the most because they have like 13 championships if you count NFL championships, which no one does except for Packers fans. So, I'm taking the stance of the Packers fans here.
00:22:11
Speaker
And I'm, uh, or sorry, not the Packers fans, everyone else. And I'm telling you that the previous years don't count. That's a lot of windup. Yes. So the reason, the reason I want to bring that up is because, well, mostly because you, um, decided to call me out in in the group chat there, uh, at the end of the year.
00:22:35
Speaker
I think you said, uh, my average finish, which was, was, it is now, uh, two, by the way. Um, by my average finish was what, like 15 or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. So the reason I'm not acknowledging those years as real is because, um,
00:22:58
Speaker
You cheated me out of those years, Joel. Because the AFL hadn't joined yet. Exactly. okay so that Now we see the parallels. I'll give a little background for the noobs that don't know because the old people know for sure. um One of the years Uh, I specifically told Joel, Hey brother, I, I'm like going out of town. I'm going to be out of service. I'll queue as many freaking people as I possibly can. But like it was on a slow draft, just like all of our other drafts have been. And I was like, it's like, who knows? I won't even be able to tell if my queue is empty because I'm out of service. And he was like, all right.
00:23:39
Speaker
cued like a mother fuck ton of people and somehow they still got all taken and so I got left with Michael Thomas the year that he was out in the first four games or five games or however many it was the literal downfall of Michael Thomas in the first round and uh and so I blamed Joel for that because he could have just paused the draft it would have been fine now I think I was going to be home the next day so it was not a big deal but he decided to just let me stick with Michael Thomas. and Then I don't even remember what happened in the second and third year, but we're just going to call that Joel fault too. so Well, one of the years, right front you didn't even get last. yeah You got second and you were the victim of the oh you're right one year bringing someone back from the dead ever.
00:24:27
Speaker
Oh, well, so I didn't, I didn't get last. Oh, that was probably what, like 15th or 14th or something like that. But you didn't even like, you didn't even get last in the week. Yeah. The one time we had a weird rule ever, you were technically eliminated, even though you didn't score the least amount of points. Yeah, that was dumb. That was dumb. Well, anyways, there you go. That, that was my main talking point. I definitely have some other ones, but if he,
00:24:56
Speaker
If you want to shut me up, that's fine. I'm just out of words. I did pull up the receipts. Yeah. What was September 3rd, 2021? Was that a Saturday? Let's get bored. What? Yeah, I don't. I'll have that in me just to call that off memory, man. Let's see. Let's see. Oh, it's a Friday. Our Friday. What are you doing on Friday, Garrett? Oh, my God. Are you serious? You want me to go back in my Google calendar?
00:25:24
Speaker
838 p.m. On Friday, September 3rd, 2021. This is when Michael Thomas happened. I said, you about to get auto'd. You said, fucking rip these draft rules. Caught me on my busiest day of the week, but okay. I said, I said in the message, gotta to queue up homies. If you don't get chopped early, you're fine. You said, yeah, I literally had zero time to queue, bro.
00:25:50
Speaker
Oh, wow. So you didn't, you didn't. exist No. And I said, ah, shite. You said fucking blows. Sorry, mate. So, okay. So maybe I actually might be getting my, uh, my years mixed up. Cause I know there was another like mix up in the second year or one of the other years where I did keep people and I maybe, maybe I'm getting a mixed up because I think, um, a following one was when that something similar happened, but, uh,
00:26:20
Speaker
that one I might, yeah, I might've just been, oh, you know what? It was because you had to speed up the draft because we were all being slow as hell. And I was like, not on my phone all day. Cause you know, I have a life.
00:26:32
Speaker
And then, yeah, I got screwed. So, well, you know, i I kind of agree with your analogy to be honest with you. Thank you. Yeah. I'm not even going to, it does feel like a new league at this point. So maybe, yeah, so maybe not. You know, you can keep counting my average. I won't acknowledge it. Isn't your this year's finished better than your normal average. I feel like we got another year. You're on the your little bias here as well. Mr. For me? Yes. my this year's This year I finished better than my average. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I'm sure you're going to like that idea. I see. well Well, no. I mean, that raises my average. Yeah. Well, yeah, but it would raise your average even more if you only had one year to go off of. Yeah.
00:27:22
Speaker
i mean ah I guess. I don't know. I feel like like a high average over four years is more boast worthy than like one. One good year. That's fair. i'll I'll take I'll take the like seventh average over like a fifth. one What is your average? Seven. I'll tell you right now. Let me let me add it all up. Yeah, go for it. Let's add this up. Let's bust out the calculator. Bust it out. All right. Last year. Not great. 11th place.
00:27:52
Speaker
Year before that, second place. Love to see it. The three of us have that in common. We all have second place. Year before that, again, not great, 12th place. Okay. ah Yeah, 7.5. Okay. Yeah. All right. Well, here, I want to bring this back because you asked me at the beginning what went wrong, but I feel like a lot of things went right. I feel like I had a really good year and I was very happy with myself.
00:28:23
Speaker
for a plethora of reasons. um Here's what I think I did right, one thing. You wrote this out? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told you, I'm talking i love it points. um um like the And I think everyone kind of hit on this. Most people and in their podcasts, they said like biggest thing is the draft, which obviously.

The Importance of Early QB Drafting

00:28:43
Speaker
So the previous two years, I went back and looked at this.
00:28:48
Speaker
I picked a quarterback late and it sc screwed me. And I think that that was one like one of my biggest positives this year was having Lamar Jackson in a good year. previous Two years ago, I think I had Aaron Rodgers, and then the year before that, I had Mack Jones.
00:29:04
Speaker
um so i had some and that was I think the Aaron Rodgers one was when he got hurt when he was with the Packers, so I was like, not not good, not good. Um, but yeah, so the, the early QB strap in the draft, I think was the way to go this year. That certainly helped me out. That's good. Okay. Point one. Yeah. Um, and then I love that some people in previous, uh, this is not really a positive to me specifically, but kind of, I guess, um, in previous podcasts, I heard lots of survivor references and I know Joel loves that he gets horny for survivor.
00:29:40
Speaker
Um, so I would, I would like to say that up until like two weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago, no one said I was going to get eliminated. And I was like, wow, am I just flying under the radar here? Or, you know, is it, do people actually believe in me? It was very, it was honestly, like every time I listened to a podcast, I was like, yeah, it's going to be me. They're going to pick me because its my team is ass.
00:30:09
Speaker
And then it just never happened until like, I think it was like literally like five of us left. They were like, Garrett's looking a little sus. And I was like, you're right. I haven't been for awhile, but yeah, I was so no one wrote my name down. And then they did. I was expecting to, honestly, I was, I wrote that, that talking point down like six weeks ago, I think. Cause I thought I was going to be out. So I was like, Hey, no one wrote my name down.
00:30:34
Speaker
But, you know, now someone did. So are you saying you you believe big time and manifestation? I guess so. Yeah. Like hearing, hearing, I will. Yeah. Just the manifestation that no one thought I was going to be out. Cause I mean, like people in the league weren't like manifesting that like yeah you were going to be eliminated. Cause they're manifesting you. They were. And I, and it was my time. That's what I'm trying to say. Like yeah it's, I believe in, although I believe it's real. Yeah.
00:31:04
Speaker
I mean, I felt like a lot of people said your name before and it lasted a while until you actually finally did get out. But what, when did you get out this year? Like too early 14. No, I think it was in a single day later. 11. Oh, okay. Okay. Uh, nine. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. No, I feel like people started saying your name at like week 15 every week.
00:31:33
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. I guess maybe sure. We'll go with that manifestation. Okay. Point number three. I gotta, I gotta to like self glaze myself a little bit. Um, I thought I was like, well, and actually this goes back to, to one, I don't even, I think it was Eli's podcast, which was right after I picked up all my people and wasted all my money when Spencer was like, yeah, you guaranteed yourself.
00:32:02
Speaker
10th 9th 8th place something like that and i was like fuck he's right but i absolutely did but then i was like to myself i was like no like i'm gonna be a zero zero dollar bid gremlin when it comes down the stretch and that's what happened i kept on just grinding out little dink donk bids and i would just randomly get like an actual heat player sometimes so it worked out a little self glaze you know don't quit Um, or also, uh, go ahead.

Zero-Dollar Bids Strategy

00:32:34
Speaker
Sorry. I don't want to interrupt. I'm talking a lot. No, I'm so all saying is, uh, being a zero bid gremlin is important.
00:32:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. You just got to keep grinding. That's right. know eat Like that's the thing is like, if you look back at a lot of the bids. which you shouldn't because it's really annoying to have to scroll back and look at them. But if you look, which actually, Joel, you should try painting those posts. I don't even know if you can, but whatever. Anyways, um, I was, I was bidding zero dollars. I'm like literally everybody, yeah like all of the good players got zero dollar bids. I was like, I don't know. Maybe someone will forget to bid. And then obviously when it came down to like three or four of us left, it was like, I'm actually getting guys, but yeah, yo it was a good time. um
00:33:23
Speaker
You can pin those? Oh, you're absolute shit. You just fucking rocked my world. Cause dude, i' I'm like scrolling back to like, I'm like, wait, when did I get those guys? Like, you know what I mean? So kind of nice to be able to see those quickly, but.
00:33:40
Speaker
I wrote down a note for Mitch's pod and I'm literally writing that down for myself. pardon in the big Oh my gosh, that blew my mind.
00:33:54
Speaker
You're welcome, Commissioner. i take ah I take payment in the form of a cash check. Yeah, you owe me a Frosty. I do owe you a Frosty. Here's the thing. The reason I made that that bet is because i I will be the first to admit that I just didn't have faith in a rookie quarterback before.
00:34:13
Speaker
which I should have, I mean, he's legit. He's the one who put you in the grave. Yeah, I know. Sad. Um, and then also I like low key forgot that we only play, or that we play 17 games now and not 16. I was kind of stuck in the past and like the 1000, I feel like the 1000 yards, uh, like milestone is like less impressive now. You know what I mean?
00:34:39
Speaker
Like, I mean, one game less impressive. Maybe that's a hot take, but I feel like it's less impressive. Yeah, I guess. I don't think it's that hot of a take, but I don't think it's that less impressive. Like, mathematically, that math. Yeah, you have one more game, but like... Right. And that last game could be like the one that you don't even play in. Yeah. But I mean, that's, that was always probably true. Um, I don't hate it. I'm not going to like stand behind it, but I get it. Sure.
00:35:10
Speaker
Yeah, I thought about it after and I was like, yeah, I mean, what did he finish

Perceptions of Milestones with Extended Season

00:35:14
Speaker
with? Do you know? Did he play today? Let's take a peek. I think it was close to 11. Did he play today? Yes. I didn't watch that game, but... Let's see, did it all add up?
00:35:32
Speaker
Uh, I didn't all add up yet. He was at a thousand 34 and he did today. Uh, 62. So yeah. Okay. So 1100. Yeah. So I guess next time the the line is 1200 yards and I would have won, but it's fine. I'll buy you a frosty and you got this new like caramel flavor. Holy they shit.
00:36:00
Speaker
All right. I have 0.4. Two more talking points. Here we go. okay Last point is mostly just ah to shout out Eli. Najee's the goat. He's the reason that I got to where I am. And then also last talking point, the whole but whole debacle of me picking up all of my all of my players in one week. Spencer, I remember you saying in that podcast, you're like, yeah, he He didn't realize that he was going to get as many as he did because he didn't put the same person to drop on multiple people. That is a hundred percent what happened. And, uh, but I also didn't think I was going to get both or all three. I did the same like thing i'm in a previous year. I was shocked. Yeah, it was dumb, but I was shocked. I like genuinely thought that I would get outbid on at least one of them and I wanted to. So I was like, damn.
00:36:57
Speaker
Like, okay, I guess, but yeah. And then my one, my biggest. Yeah, go ahead. No, the same thing happened to me. That's why I was like, I know, uh, you didn't mean to get all that. Cause it was like two or three years ago. Yeah. I spent like $750 in one week and I was like, well, what the hell? Like, I think I just feel like 200 on like every bunch of people. I'm like, there's no way I get all these guys. And then you wake up, you get everyone. You're like, uh, okay. Yeah.
00:37:25
Speaker
I know. Yeah, it was kind of a cool week because I was like, ah, I'm probably good then. But at the same time, cup was hurt and for a week. so i did I think I did want both cup and DK because I was thinking DK could, you know, help me survive for a few weeks while cup was out. And then when I had the back, then I'd be like good for a little bit. But I did not expect to get Najee. Like I was not expecting that at all. So, but he's the goat. He was my king.
00:37:54
Speaker
love it love it I think that my biggest like failure at near the end of the year was when I had like I think I had like $15 or 20 bucks and I was spending money on like spent like actually spending money on Like shit because I was trying to get well, I think one week I spent money on Tyler Conklin I was like, oh my god, that was not smart.

End-of-Season Budget Management

00:38:19
Speaker
But I needed a tight end, so I was like, whatever. But yeah, I think I I just needed to probably just stand tight and just be like, it is what it is at this point and not spend money on those people because otherwise I probably would have had some cash at the end and been able to do some more things. That is a good point. At the end there, even though you're spending $1 or $2 or whatever, when you get down to those final weeks, that's actually a lot of money, even though it doesn't feel like it. Yeah, I know.
00:38:46
Speaker
Yeah. If I had, if I had $3 in the last, the last waiver claims that, I mean, I probably, I don't know if I would have won, but I would have gotten more people. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy that at the end, it's like a different economy at the end. Yeah. It's crazy. It's also weird. Yeah. Like at the beginning of the year, you hear people talking about, Oh man, like my players went for $600. Yeah. And then like Mitch's guys all went for zero. Kind of crazy.
00:39:16
Speaker
Anyways, those are all my talking points. I'm done now.
00:39:21
Speaker
Well, you did well. I think ah it's it's it's really tough to get to the end of guillotine. You're in the club of second placers here. Yeah, JJ's there too, I'm pretty sure. He texted me about that earlier today. He was like, I got second place. Didn't he get second place last year?
00:39:41
Speaker
think so' positive all right i Yeah, and there you go yeah it's an elite club. Yeah. 49ers.
00:39:54
Speaker
getting American get the win. Yeah. Um, well, I liked your talking points. Thank you. I do feel like it's a new league this year. I feel like next year it's going to get fun. Do you have any oh gosh things you want to add or subtract or change going into 2025 that I should write on my notes app. So I remember in nine months. Oh,
00:40:24
Speaker
No, I honestly, I'm a very simple man. I think I like it. I think I like it simple. Maybe it's from my PTSD of getting eliminated when I shouldn't have, but yeah, no, I think I like it simple and and clean just the way it is. Okay. Okay. But I've heard rumors that things are changing regardless. So I make no promises. We'll it out in July. There you go.
00:40:53
Speaker
All right, sir. Uh, we're doing a mega pod. So thank god yeah, you're getting sandwiched here. We're doing one more.
00:41:06
Speaker
Talked Austin sorry he's he's a chi he's a champ i mean like now we just shouldn't do them. I Know i sold know and I just had to get on my soapbox. That's all i know It was it's so tough doing the last podcast we didn't do them last year because really yeah, it's never did his winners podcast I believe he goes over and it's like yeah, whatever yeah it's like who cares at this point well that's how much i know that no one's gonna listen to this probably i'll have like two two listeners maybe two as fencer set the the line at four and a half oh that's definitely under i don't know man are you counted are you counting us yeah i think yeah he will oh well then sure yeah four and a half we'll get we'll get two more you can probably jay jay jay listen j j that's what i said too i said jay jay the guaranteed listen
00:42:01
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know about anybody else. i Yeah, maybe. Maybe Mitch, he Since he was right right there at the end, there you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Garrett. Any last words? ah do i get Do I get an emoji or no? Sure, dude. Yes. I didn't let Mitch do one, but... exactly i good of What the hell? it What? Mitch didn't get an emoji?
00:42:27
Speaker
I mean, it's like you're at like the 45 minute mark right now the podcast No, it's not. I'm looking at it. This is 30. I know this I'm doing a megapod Too many damn talking points ah My emoji is the guy that's like it's like a profile of a picture a picture of a guy and he's like talking and there's a bunch of like sound waves going out of his mouth because he's talking too much and He's got talking points. Yeah.
00:43:01
Speaker
Uh, anyways, that's all I got. It's part three of the mega pod and Spencer got tired. So he said, fuck this. I'm out. Uh, so it's just me and Austin, but what, what's up, Austin? What's up, man? How you doing?
00:43:19
Speaker
You made it so far, so far, all the way and as far as you can go. How do you feel? Uh, it feels pretty good. I mean, being at my first year, I know it was definitely just luck. Um, so I'll just say right now that I got lucky and to everyone who messed up, I appreciate it.
00:43:40
Speaker
Uh, what do you think were the things that led to you being here? Well, like I said, luck was definitely on my side. Um, and definitely, uh, sorry, I can't remember the, the, not the guy, not grubs, but who was the guy before grub? Mitch. Mitch. Um, I, I would like this to give my, uh, my biggest thanks to him because he's the reason why I won. Um, him forgetting to bid is definitely the only reason why I won, uh, I won this. And like, if it, if it wasn't for him, then, uh,
00:44:14
Speaker
then I would definitely not be here. I would have been out that week. So you ah what's funny is he said, you know, the basically the other side of the coin. Uh, but that yeah, that's wild. So you think if Mitch bids his, his team, you know, does well enough and then you're just out. Well, okay. Here's the thing. I was doing the math a little bit, not a huge numbers guy. I do like numbers, but I was doing a little bit of the math and there's almost a guarantee that he would have went after Saquon Barkley, but there's no guarantee on how much he would have spent on him, whether he was thinking, trying to call my bluff or whatever it was, I don't know what it was, but say he word a bit on Saquon Barkley and get Saquon Barkley that week, he would have taken 27 points out of my lineup and then added 27 to his, you know obviously not a full 27, and I would have put someone else in and it wouldn't have been enough, because that week was, i I'm pretty sure it was really tight. um Yeah.
00:45:10
Speaker
So pretty much that was, that was the decider right there in that week. Shoot. Yeah, that's pretty wild. I mean, you make it all that way and right at the finish line, uh, you, you end up benefiting from that. which high Yeah.
00:45:30
Speaker
So you, you've, you've won the league. I sent you your money. Yes. Um, what were your expectations coming in and then has that changed your perspective now?

Austin Joins the Guillotine League

00:45:42
Speaker
Well, the expectations coming in were just, this is absolutely, you know, almost the definition of insanity where there's an 18 man draft and everyone has XYZ amount of hours to make a pick. I just, I've never been in anything like this before. Um, I'm i'm a pretty seasoned fantasy player, but very just.
00:45:59
Speaker
simple season fantasy player where the the most intricate league I'll get into is a keeper league. um But, you know, I've always wanted to do dynasties and do other stuff. and And when Chase invited me or you and Chase invited me, I was kind of just like, you know what, it's only 25 bucks. I might as well just throw it in. And the expectation was don't get last place.
00:46:22
Speaker
After the draft, were you feeling good? You felt like you could make it a little bit? um I was feeling like pretty decent, but I think I really lucked out with um Justin Jefferson and Sam Darnold. um I think you know picking Justin Jefferson is almost a lock every single year because I think last year I was saying that like Justin Jefferson still averaged you know a hefty amount of points even with, I think it was like Nick Mullen under center or something like that.
00:46:48
Speaker
and um I was like there's no way Sam Darnold or you know at the point it was JJ McCarthy it could have been that bad um so I was thinking like at pick number eight that can't be the worst thing ever um obviously there's probably better choices but I mean I definitely made my mistakes in the draft um taking Travis Kelce early taking CJ Stroud early those two were definitely pretty bad but I know it was a down year for tight ends regardless so
00:47:16
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, I think one of your key pickups was Josh Jacobs, which I got flames for, I believe. Yeah. I, I don't, I wasn't a believer. I mean, he's, I think finish RB five. So that's pretty hype. He picked it up. He wasn't mean. He didn't start off very hot.
00:47:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. He started off a little cold, but he's been sure doing it great since then, but you spent like 400 bucks on them. And I'm like, I probably flamed you for it. Cause like 400 bucks for Josh Jacobs, yeah you know, you can get whoever, but you, you didn't even, you don't have the experience of knowing who goes for what and it it ended up not even mattering.
00:48:01
Speaker
Yeah, I mean you guys could see I think after week one I had spent like six or seven hundred bucks um I know I spent like four on Josh Jacobs and I spent like 200 on T Higgins and I Definitely got flame for T Higgins and I think that one was a bit more justified But at the same point or the same in the same like yeah point I didn't really know what I was doing and I was like Oh $200 for you know in my eyes. He's a he's a wide receiver 1b um But to to most people he's wide receiver too. um But he hadn't played and I didn't know when he was going to come back and I was kind of just being wishful. And I think that again, kind of the luck kind of played in there because Joe Burrow is actually having one of the best seasons of his career. And, um you know, T Higgins is is a benefactor of that. So I think, you know, in the weeks that T Higgins would play it would definitely benefit me.
00:48:51
Speaker
Yeah, yeah Well, uh, you did it man. I got no criticisms and uh, the haters gonna hate um I had a question. What was it? Um Well, i i'll have my second question which is I won a fantasy league i've already spent all the money Where's your 200 going?

Austin's Winnings and Future Speculations

00:49:14
Speaker
Oh man, the adult answer is is rent but you know the fun answer is you know going to dinners and stuff like that. That's what I love spending my money on. um so that Yeah, the adult answer it more than likely is going to rent and it already actually has. so but okay But the less fun answer is I would love it to go to not rent.
00:49:36
Speaker
All right. All right. Um, do you, oh, here's my question. So you listened pretty much to a lot of pods, right? Yeah. I saw a lot of emotions dropping from you. I listened to pretty much every week. I didn't, I didn't listen fully through in the week one. And then when started, people started dropping emojis. That's when I kind of realized that I missed out on some things.
00:49:56
Speaker
Um, so then I, I started listening every single week because I was just trying to learn and understand. And, um, one podcast really stood out to me. I don't remember the guy's name, but it was like week three or four. Some guy absolutely flamed me for having the worst running backs and told me I was getting out like week three. And I think I was just mad about that. And I was like, okay, I'm going to try my best to make it a few more weeks. And, and here we are. So yeah, a few more weeks. Um, any ah beef for the league, any thoughts for the league?
00:50:26
Speaker
um No, but the only beef I'll have is with Chase right this moment because in the week where he spent five or six hundred bucks on Kyler Murray, i was his biggest i was I was his biggest critic telling him, don't put that much money on him. And I think that's where he went wrong. So if there's any beef, that's the only beef I'll have. I don't even know if I call it beef, but that's it.
00:50:47
Speaker
Yeah. Chase was telling me like every week he'd be texting you like, bro, what what who you been on? He was stressing every week. ah Were you stressing or or like maybe more than normal league, but what what was your stress level each week?
00:51:03
Speaker
Um, yeah, definitely higher than a normal league and it's funny because this was like the cheapest league that i'm involved in But it like for some reason it just you get so on edge with like wanting to do So much in the league and and so yeah like I stopped paying attention in all my other leagues, which i'm worth more money and like, you know, I went like Seven and seven and all those leagues are seven and eight whatever it was but I pretty much was middle of the pack in every single league And in this league, I was like definitely the most tryhard, or at least like paying the most attention to. so Yeah, that's hype.
00:51:37
Speaker
um
00:51:40
Speaker
I'm going to give you a special honor, which I have not given before. Okay. Which is, uh, you know, kind kind of the normal, normal shindig, but, uh, the, the year's over. Okay. So we can't do our, you know, you pick your yada, yada, pick that, but for next year, you know, just based on vibes, listening to the pods, who do you think is going to get out first next year? Who do you think is going to win it all? Oh man.
00:52:05
Speaker
I don't know enough people in the league to be able to do this, which is like the hardest point. And and I apologize if people didn't want me to win because they didn't know me, and and i'm I'm sorry that it it had to be me, but but at the same time, um man, who who's gonna be the first one out? I think the first one out, i don't I'm not gonna say any names, but I'll say it's gonna be i'll say it'll be like the 14th pick in the draft. Whoever the 14th pick in the draft is is is probably probably cooked.
00:52:34
Speaker
Okay, interesting. This year the 14th pick was Pick Spence. Oh and he did Ethan. Yeah, you did decent. Yeah. Let's see. You know, this, this is a fun exercise. I want to see the, like the worst picks, uh, this year, like well what ms are CMC was definitely suck. That's tough, but like, yeah I'm curious if any, I should look back and see which like draft positions, if any have any trends of like doing better or doing worse. Um, because I feel like it's all over the board in correlation with with this how they finished.
00:53:11
Speaker
Yeah, like Dylan got out first, but that's probably not indicative of his position. Uh, Fitz got out second. So Fitz was the 15th pick. So all right. 14, maybe he's not a bad shot. Not a bad shot. All right. Well, Sean, the dark, but whoever gets 14, sorry, that's, that's my pick. All right. Who, who wins it all then?
00:53:35
Speaker
Um, I mean, obviously I'd love to go in and say me, but I think with my luck, I'm going to go ahead and probably place in bottom, like five, uh, if I get invited back, of course. Um, but I want to give it, I want to give it to chase chase. I feel like has some, some pretty bad luck in fantasy leagues and I want to see him improve and I want to see it. I want to see him get a win. So I, uh, I'm rooting for chase next year.
00:54:00
Speaker
okay and okay do you have any more thoughts for the boys this is your last chance but and then we we talk next july with all the boys um no thoughts but i want to give a big shout out to uh chummy bug because i feel like he played such a good game and The week he got out was just so unfortunate because I felt like he had the strongest team in my opinion He had the strongest team whenever there was a week where he was able to get like three or four guys I think I put in the chat and I was just like it's over like this guy won and He ended up just having a really poor week with all of his really good players um but I think he he played I think he played a really good game and I think obviously Mitch he was a favorite throughout so I want to say like he played an awesome game, too um But big shout out to grub dubs for sure for ah for making it too because he was on he was on empty with like I Don't know how many weeks left, but you you can only respect that that was crazy
00:55:01
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, we made it to the end. Uh, last emoji of the season. If people made it this far, this, this is like an hour long podcast. So if they drop your emoji, you really know they're, they're the homie. So make your picture. All right. Well, I, uh, I own a sneaker shop. So my emoji has to be a sneaker. I think there's that white little sneaker in there. That's, that's the only emoji. And I think it's very, uh, it relates to me very well.
00:55:30
Speaker
There you go. All right. And if somebody wants to buy some sick sneakers, where can they go? You guys can go to shophiddenrealm.com. We're in Orange County, California. So I know most of you guys are NorCal guys, but we ship. So if you guys are interested in the sneakers, if you guys are any sneaker head, you guys feel free to either stop by or shop online.
00:55:51
Speaker
They ship. Yeah. Austin already took your money for this. might as well give him i discount code If you guys send me a message on Instagram and say you're from the guillotine league, I'll throw you guys like a 10% off. So. Oh, hell yeah. All right, bro. Thanks. Thanks for chatting. Yeah, absolutely, man. You guys, you have a good one.