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Streamer Spotlight: SuperShadow271
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In this episode, Satsunami interviews his friend and fellow streamer SuperShadow271. The duo discuss their time on Twitch as well as their thoughts on the iconic Sonic the Hedgehog series.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Appearance
00:00:05
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Welcome to Chatsunami.
00:00:17
Speaker
Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Chat Tsunami. I'm Sat Tsunami, and joining me today for a very special streamer spotlight is, well, you might have seen him around playing a lot of really awesome Sonic the Hedgehog content. It is indeed the one and the only Super Shadow 271. Shadow,
Overcoming Streaming Anxiety
00:00:38
Speaker
welcome on to Chat Tsunami. Hey, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Hello everyone.
00:00:43
Speaker
I know the first time you've been on the channel, honestly. Yeah, you know. I had watched you do this several times and I thought it would be nice to do this, but I was always too anxious to just ask. Oh no, not at all. No, it's a pleasure to have you on. Because seriously, I really need to get back into the swing of talking to other streamers and things.
00:01:05
Speaker
and you know yeah that's same here yeah but honestly like what better way than to start with that this is me going on record not trying to you know butter up everyone that comes on the channel and be like you know oh the amazing but no genuinely um thank you so much um for joining me today yeah thank you yeah and of course we've known each other for i'm just trying to think like how long ago it was yeah i'm it feels like so long ago but i can't say i remember exactly how many months
00:01:34
Speaker
yeah okay it's it is definitely been a couple like well sorry a couple sorry i'm i'm under selling it here it's like it's fine i followed your train of thought there yeah because i remember the reason i think the reason that i came across your channel was because like for the celebration stream i decided to make the very fullest choice to play sonico six which oh yeah yeah if there's any
00:02:02
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any Sonic fans out there, you will realise how much of a goof that is. And I decided
Challenges of Sonic Speedrunning
00:02:08
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to play that for six hours, and I only got through a third of the game. It's a long one. It's definitely a long game.
00:02:20
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like I remember I was watching like a youtube video on like speedruns and some people have done like the stories and like under and over and things and I thought oh I can do that as well yeah no spoilers yeah yeah for me I know I've watched Sonic Adventure 2 speedruns and I always think like I could do that and then I actually try it and it just goes miserably
00:02:46
Speaker
Oh yeah, absolutely. Whenever you try to recreate a speedrun and then you're like, how the hell did they actually do that? And they do it with ease. They're just like, oh yeah, you have to hit this pixel in the right direction and everything. And you're like, yeah, this is impossible. This is absolutely- Yeah,
The Sonic 06 Streamer Experience
00:03:04
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yeah. Particularly in Final, I think it's Final Rush or Final Chase of Sonic Adventure 2, basically you're just falling throughout the entire level and they go like,
00:03:13
Speaker
there's an invisible kill plane right here and you have to like angle yourself at this angle and it's like how does anyone remember all that they've definitely got a different skill set by far yeah definitely they're just like focused and they're like yeah we're gonna get through this and you're like man just hats off to them yeah absolutely
00:03:35
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But yeah of course after my failed attempt at a speedrun, I wasn't really like, I was intended as a speedrun but yeah six hours later I remember like going around Twitch and trying to find other people playing Sonic 06 and I have to admit it's quite hard.
00:03:51
Speaker
Oh yeah I know they didn't make a tag for it or like a category. Yeah I was really surprised because I think I did the same thing as you where I used the tag of I think it was like just the regular Sonic the Hedgehog. Yeah just Sonic 1 yeah that's the closest thing.
00:04:07
Speaker
yeah honestly there's none which i was really surprised that because i thought even for the memes yeah oh yeah i mean they have shit they have categories for like metroid prime 4 and shadow the hedgehog like surely they could come up with one for oh six yeah yeah that was surprising when i saw the shadow one i was like oh interesting you've got one for that i've been not for oh six i think i was probably the limit that twitch was just like no if we put this in this against tos or something
00:04:34
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Yeah, we want to discourage this as much as possible. Oh yeah, Sega probably paid them off, you know? That too, yeah.
00:04:43
Speaker
That's why we've not got the Dreamcast too, because I paid off Twitch not to have that tag in. But yeah, I was looking for other players going through the game and then of course I stumbled across your channel and it was honestly just like a really chill, really cool stream in all seriousness. Thank you.
Advice for New Streamers
00:05:03
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No, I was really like... I'm not going to be like, oh I was surprised, but like, because you are genuinely a nice person, but it was like...
00:05:10
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because I have been in some streams for Sonic and some people streaming I have seen some people who are just like they're either doing speedruns or you know they're just more focused on the game but yeah but I think it was just the fact you were so interactive and everything oh yeah so like really you always have been like you know
00:05:29
Speaker
Yeah, well, one piece of advice I always got from, you know, when I started my streaming was like, just speak and try and talk even if there's no one there because, you know, you'll always get people who will stop by and hear you and, you know, realize that you're somebody cool. So that's always what I try and shoot for when I stream. And those six streams in particular were very, very much me trying to find someone to distract me. So.
00:05:57
Speaker
Yeah but yeah. I was just gonna say if I remember correctly was it no someone recommended you to play the game on stream? So yeah more or less I had a follower who really wanted to see well honestly he really wanted to play it himself and I thought hey it might make for a fun stream and I truth be told had never played it before like I had seen enough of it to know
00:06:20
Speaker
everything about it but I just never wanted to play it myself and so finally I was convinced to just give it a go and it ended up being a very fun stream or series of streams for me. So was that the very first time you ever played Sonic 06? Yes yeah I well okay I played a little bit of it at a friend's house in the multiplayer like they had me play as silver and I went wow this is quite terrible and just never wanted to pick it back up.
00:06:50
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Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, I never, when I was younger, I didn't have an Xbox or a PlayStation. So when my friend was like, yeah, you want to play this new Sonic game? It's like, yeah, of course. And then I played it and I just thought, oh, no, I never want to touch this. Yeah.
00:07:07
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Well, see if it helps. The reason that I bought Sonic 06 was because I really wanted to get into the next, like, gen of consoles, and, like, at the time, and I thought, because, like, my brother had, like, a PlayStation 2, and I heard about, like, the red ring of death and everything,
00:07:25
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I didn't really want to get like an Xbox so I was like okay I'm gonna wait and I'm gonna get a PlayStation 3 for Sonic because Sonic at the time despite like you know some of the less favorable games coming out at the time I thought okay I'm gonna wait for the PlayStation 3 to play Sonic 06. Not only
Gaming History and Console Choices
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is it the worst version you can get
00:07:50
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yeah oh yeah oh but yeah it was like waiting for a console that yeah just yeah yeah well i was very much looking into getting a console for sonico 6 i you know when i was young i didn't have the money to just go out and buy a console so i kept trying to find all sorts of ways to get an xbox or a playstation just to buy that one game thankfully the stars uh did not align on that so
00:08:16
Speaker
I saved myself heartache. It sounds like a lucky escape. Yeah quite the bullet dodged. So this maybe is quite an obvious question and I know we've kind of hinted at it from what we were just talking about. What is the origin behind super shadow?
00:08:44
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Yeah, so funny story about this. So I used to be a big fan of Neopets back in the day. And I was a big fan also because it was basically the only thing that would work with my computers because my dad made me use OS 2 for a long time. And Neopets was basically the only thing we could do and I really wanted a Neopets account. So when I went to sign up, they wanted, you know, they asked me, what username do you want? And I thought,
00:09:11
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shadow he's my favorite character of course you can't just name yourself shadow yeah so I thought how about super shadow and then that was rejected of course and so I just started bolting on my favorite numbers after it until it accepted so I was like okay super shadow 2 super shadow 27 super shadow 271 and then that was what stick you know what stuck rather yeah yeah and I guess I just kind of decided to make that my
00:09:40
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it's a very distinct name at least well i have had a few people follow me saying like hey your username is so close to mine you know there are quite a few super shadows out there well i mean according to your name there's 270 before you yeah exactly i bested them all
00:09:59
Speaker
Yeah, there can only be one Super Shadow 271. Exactly. That's what the one stands for at the end. Exactly, yes. So I had curiosity. Like it is safe to assume that we're of course both Sonic the Hedgehog fans. Oh absolutely. But what was your first experience into Sonic? My first
Sonic's Design Appeal
00:10:20
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experience with Sonic, so I've been gaming basically my whole life as long as I can remember.
00:10:26
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And I started out on my dad's Atari 2600, and played games like Adventure and Circus Atari, which are a lot of fun actually. Seeing how much I liked the video games my parents went out and bought, you know, a quote-unquote modern console at the time, which was the Sega Genesis, and got it at a store called Funko Land, which is sadly gone, which is a shame because I love that store. And of course when you get a Sega Genesis and you don't really know what there is for it,
00:10:52
Speaker
When you tend to ask people, it's like Sonic the Hedgehog, that's the very first thing. So my parents bought me Sonic the Hedgehog, and I just grew up playing those games over and over again. Yeah, that was basically my first experience. For the longest time, I didn't think there was anything between the Genesis and the Dreamcast, because I was not up to date on my gaming news as a kid. My cousin would bring over her Dreamcast, and that's where I'd get to play Adventure 1 and 2. But as far as I was aware as a kid, there were
00:11:21
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Sonic's 1, 2, 3, and Knuckles, and Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, and that was it. So that's basically kind of my history with Sonic. No, it was just 1 down F like Adventure 2 might have been the first one, but... It's my favorite for sure, but not the first.
00:11:36
Speaker
I'm just trying to think of what my first game was, because I think I was kind of in the opposite boat of it was my brother that had the Sega Mega Drive, or Genesis, and I never understood why they named it two things at once.
00:11:53
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Yeah, I don't understand, and maybe I'm gonna say something controversial here, but I prefer Genesis. Yeah, no, go for it. I know people prefer Mega Drive, but I like Genesis. Yeah, there's nothing but hot takes and chat tsunami.
00:12:08
Speaker
You're in good company. Sounds good
Sega's Sonic Innovation
00:12:11
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then. But yeah, my brother I think had the original one and I never really played it very much. I think the closest I got to playing the 2D ones was like for our old family computer we had like a demo.
00:12:26
Speaker
Sonic CD which was a lot of fun but kind of going back to now I realize how old I've gotten because there's like so much going on in the screen there's like flashing colors and you're just like oh god just just put it away in a dart box
00:12:42
Speaker
Yeah, I did not know Sonic CD existed for a long time and it's very strange because growing up with the Genesis Mega Drive titles, it's such an odd duck compared to all of them because the goal isn't even so much to just get to the end, it's to create a good future.
00:13:01
Speaker
I had trouble grasping that when I first played it. It's still a little weird for me. Because you just want to run fast and just get to the goal rank. Yeah, well that's essentially what the Genesis games instill in you is like, you run or you get through the level, you learn, you go fast, you get faster at the game.
00:13:19
Speaker
and I've always held that as the core principle behind Sonic is repetition to learn to get faster, to feel good. And so Sonic CD being more explorative and goal-oriented was very strange for me. I think we were talking about this earlier, just a bit like speedrunners and things, but it's no wonder that speedrunners choose games like Sonic to play through. Oh absolutely.
00:13:44
Speaker
as it's just like such not such but so fast to get through it sometimes it's like you can play a game for i mean like i've done it in stream and i know you've played through it as well and it takes like a couple of hours depending on the game to get through certain stories or depending on the game like sonic adventure for example and then
00:14:04
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all of a sudden menacingly looming over the distance is like the speedrunner coming in being like, I'll just do that in what, 20, 30 minutes? I'll be fine. I'll break the game. And it's like, OK, fair enough. Fair enough. You do you. Yeah. Well, I've always felt because if you ever read the Nintendo Power issue with Yuji Naka, he was saying how the original concept for Sonic was replaying World 1-1 of
00:14:31
Speaker
Mario so often that like you got really fast at it and that felt rewarding. And so to me that's like the essence of Sonic and the essence of speedrunning is you learn, you figure out what works and it feels rewarding to go fast. So that's, you know, that's why I think Sonic and speedrunning go so well together is that whole process is essentially one and the same. And absolutely. And especially for like the adventure series as well. When it transitioned into 3D it was just like
00:14:57
Speaker
Yeah well it was for the first game anyway like Adventure 1 that was just at least for the Sonic sections we don't talk about big here. Yeah we do not discuss big. Yeah we don't talk about that cat because if I do I feel as if I'll be told you something into existence. Yeah for any non-sonic fans listening thinking what the hell am I talking?
00:15:19
Speaker
Yeah, big the cat. Imagine a very fast-paced game and then all of a sudden they think, do you know what this platformer needs? It needs a big purple cat with a fishing rod. That's what we need.
00:15:32
Speaker
Well, you know why they added him actually, right? Yeah, was it that they wanted to test out the physics or the mechanics on the Dreamcast? No, actually the reason they added him was to cross-promote Sega Bass Fishing. Oh god. Yeah, they thought that if people played big, they would be incentivized to play Bass Fishing and buy Bass Fishing. I'm not that much.
00:15:57
Speaker
I'm not gonna lie I feel as if like Sonic fans are not the main demographic for fishing. Oh yeah I wouldn't think so either but I guess someone had said I thought so. Yeah I mean have you ever seen a fisherman and a Sonic fan in the same room you know? Polar opposite. Probably.
00:16:18
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Yeah. The adventure games are really unique to me because they took something that I think most people assume can't work, which is like Sonic and 3D, and really just applied those same philosophies. And I have a top five favorite games video on my YouTube channel.
00:16:36
Speaker
I kind of talked about it a little bit. Adventure, especially Adventure 2, but sort of in Adventure 1, you don't go fast the first time. The idea, much like the Genesis titles, is that you replay it, and then you learn, okay, I need to jump here, and there's a hidden thing here, and I can go fast here. And I think Adventure 2 in particular does that better than any other Sonic game, and that's why it's my favourite. It just feels so good. I mean, it definitely does get the balance down for gameplay, for the most part. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Well, I mean,
00:17:04
Speaker
there are things you can tweak certainly oh yeah absolutely yeah for for my money i would rather replay adventure 2 than basically any other sonic game and then of course after that was just yeah a very dark period which yeah even if you're not a sonic fan i feel as if it's like yeah i feel as if any kind of gamer knows like closely like how bad the reputation is after that kind of period
00:17:29
Speaker
Yeah,
Sonic's Cultural Impact
00:17:30
Speaker
well, if I can go on a slight tangent for a second. So I think what makes that period especially bad for Sonic is really the fact that I think Sega listens to its fans too much about things, which I know sounds really weird, but if you ever hear the story of why they made Shadow the Hedgehog the way it is with guns and all that,
00:17:51
Speaker
is because they hear several fans go like, this, you know, we want Sonic to have a gun. And they try and incorporate that when I think there needs to be a healthy amount of, okay, but would that really be a good idea? So I think for Sega, they try something and then they hear fans and try and overcompensate and then hear fans again. And it just, I think they just need to kind of focus on something and refine it instead of try and appease everyone too much because
00:18:21
Speaker
you're never going to please everyone because i mean that is like one of the big strengths of the series mind you that it is a series that is willing to take risks and kind of try different things oh yeah absolutely but on the other hand when your different thing like for example with mario you know like with odyssey you had the hat you know the possessed people with sunshine you had you know the water can you like things like that with shadow the hedgehog they gave him a fully automatic rifle
00:18:49
Speaker
and told him to go shoot the military. And you're like, it's Sega, Sega, award. Yeah. Well, it's funny. It's funny to me because everyone's reaction. I feel like if they had spoken to even a few more fans about the concept, everyone could have told them, hey, this is not a good idea. Even when I was younger, though, like, I do remember being really excited for the game. Oh, same. Yeah. Like, I was really hyped to play it. And then when I played, it was kind of like,
00:19:20
Speaker
Well actually I just did a stream a couple days back of it and there are things I do actually really like about it but I think just so many other things were not well thought out and
00:19:32
Speaker
I think they would have just done better to stick to a formula rather than trying crowbar and gun mechanics. They did have interesting ideas in the game with the branching narratives and things like that. There was a lot where you kind of felt as if you hit a brick wall. Sometimes literally you would hit a brick wall because that was one of the missions.
00:19:55
Speaker
10 different endings for, you know, essentially the same thing. And I mean, don't get me started on like the... So again, just to kind of explain, to give context, there's a particular level when you have to go to a space station. That of course being the arc levels. And that is by far some of the worst level
00:20:19
Speaker
ever played in the game is one of the absolute... I don't even have any words to run about this. Don't worry, I will bring it back in.
00:20:31
Speaker
No, no, it's fine. It definitely was a huge barrier right at the end of a run because it's one of the later levels. So if you get that, you're already committed to a story and then you just get to that level and it just drags on and on and on.
00:20:50
Speaker
because it is just one of those like if it's not a collectathon objective it's going to be like well you have to kill as many you know like i don't know aliens soldiers sonic clones you know whatever you just you have to do that every sort of or find the computer room there's a famous one yes definitely
00:21:10
Speaker
and it is it's just it's so it's just it almost feels as if it's just like a mishmash of ideas um and yeah it's got good and bad ideas but yeah i take it as safe to assume that that wasn't the game that inspired you to get into streaming oh yeah definitely not no no no
00:21:29
Speaker
I enjoy it for what it is, but I definitely, if anything, it would have been Adventure 2. But there was no one game I said I would start streaming on. For me, because I'm a game collector, I have almost 2,000 games physically, and probably around 6,000 if we're including digital.
00:21:50
Speaker
Yeah, and I have a horrible problem of buying games and just not finishing them, or even playing them really. So I got into streaming because a friend of mine who I met, I actually met him at my job at a super
00:22:08
Speaker
Well, not a supermarket, it's a department store. And he and I connected, and he was a streamer, and he said, hey, you really know your stuff, you should try streaming, a lot of people would probably really like you. So I figured it would be best to kill several birds with one stone by, you know, actually playing games I buy, and being able to vent about games and game topics that I otherwise
Sega's Strategic Focus
00:22:30
Speaker
can't.
00:22:31
Speaker
Yeah, so I've just kind of gotten to streaming that way, but I think I've definitely played a lot more Sonic than any other franchise. There's nothing wrong with that.
00:22:40
Speaker
yeah yeah i almost feel like it wouldn't be it wouldn't be right for a guy named shadow to not stream sonic at some point yeah well i think like salt in the wind would be if you decided to be like okay i'm gonna call myself super shadow i'm gonna have like the shadow the hedgehog and signia and then you did nothing but play mario yeah exactly right just like yeah this is a mario only channel you know people being like yeah yeah
00:23:06
Speaker
What the hell? Any time travels from the 90s just being like, what the hell is going on here? I'm still waiting for that Mario and Sonic crossover game so that way everyone from the 90s can have their minds blown. Yeah, like a real one and not like an Olympics. Not Olympics, yeah. Such a strange crossover, honestly. It really is, of all games. Why the Olympics?
00:23:32
Speaker
yeah i can get them doing like a party game or something or something like that or even smash bros technically yeah yeah loosely you could say but it's not really like a mario and sonic you know but yeah i'm honestly surprised considering nintendo are like quite uh what is the right and like nicest way to put this like very lenient
00:23:55
Speaker
Well, just very hungry to capitalise on a lot of nostalgia for a long time. At least some of them. They've probably got the biggest nostalgia base, but they don't capitalise on some of them. Again, this is coming from someone who was a Banjo-Kazooie fan. My heart has been broken more than once.
00:24:16
Speaker
Aww, I feel for ya. Oof. Yeah, just good on time's ahead. Yep, yep. I do think though that Sega sits on its franchises more than Nintendo does. As far as modern Sega is concerned, Sonic, Yakuza, and Total War are basically the only franchises that exist, so...
00:24:36
Speaker
Total War is a really weird one. In fact, I think most, well, I can't speak for the Yakuza games because that's another game that I've downloaded. Yeah, I've downloaded it. It's on the backlog. It's on the game pass, you know? Honestly, you see the amount of times I've rung up the game pass and Chatsunami, you would think I was sponsored by them. I'm not, but if anybody knows who to contact, you know, give me a phone.
00:25:04
Speaker
but yeah right like yeah I've downloaded it and I have not played it yet but I really want to it's one of those games where I'm like should I stream it should I just play it on my own I think I'll probably play it on my own because it's such like a long you know story based game and everything yeah definitely that's that's what puts me off of it it's like I look at all the times to completion it's like I don't have that kind of time but then I'll spend a hundred hours in a roguelike or something and
00:25:29
Speaker
yeah realize i probably should but i mean with like franchises like total war that has definitely evolved into something completely different from what is started out like i mean the core concept's the same like you choose a faction you know take over the world but i think ever since rome 2 they've like introduced a lot more micro transactions oh yeah it's definitely and it's like oh do you want to be the spartans get your wallet out and you're like yeah what yeah i don't want to be
00:26:00
Speaker
Yeah but in that sense though you can't understand why they keep it alive because they can bulk it for a lot of money. See this is the thing like people complain about these kind of franchises yet because they're like buying into them or buying the DLC it's like well you're so like supporting it if you know what I mean. Yeah oh absolutely I mean they wouldn't they wouldn't make fans unhappy if it wasn't making them money.
00:26:27
Speaker
clearly it's working out for them because they're still buying it that's that's uh kind of a different topic oh yeah it's tragic yeah yeah if you've ever seen that that modern warfare screenshot i mean there is some debate about it now but like the one where it's like boycott modern warfare 2 we want dedicated servers and then it's a screenshot of everyone in modern warfare 2 oh yeah that's another franchise that has oh it's it's i don't even know where to even begin
00:26:56
Speaker
with that. One of those franchises that you know the way you grow up with a franchise and then you just see it slowly decay. And I don't know whether that's just because it's like rose tinted glasses for the old games. And then not always, like sometimes it is, sometimes it's like the game, like the original game is genuinely a really good game. But
00:27:21
Speaker
yeah with Call of Duty it's just it has literally become like I think I was not arguing but I was talking to someone about this the other day about Warzone and the fact there's so many like because it's a free battle royale game yeah although the updates which I won't rant I won't rant about the updates because we could be here all night
00:27:44
Speaker
The updates are just ridiculous for that game, but they've also got a lot of microtransactions and things like that. You can buy skins, you can buy the battle pass, and that's clearly where they're getting the money from.
00:27:59
Speaker
Oh absolutely, yeah. But this is one of my friends who I do the T-pose and Let's Play series with. We record like quite a lot of like just matches that we've done in Warzone and uploaded onto YouTube. But there was one instance where we actually got attacked by a guy who basically was hacking the game. Like he managed to like shoot us from right across the map. Oh geez. Fun. It was just ridiculous. But that's the thing for a game like that.
00:28:28
Speaker
you know not having like anti-cheat measures and it's just yeah fun times yeah yeah yeah yeah well I'll just add one last thing to it I actually just saw earlier today a report that basically every Activision studio is now a Call of Duty support studio so yeah yeah they are killing every studio just to prop up
00:28:51
Speaker
Call of Duty, and that makes me quite sad because I was hoping for other things from them, but so be it I guess. That's tragic, actually. Yeah, yeah. Speaking of... Yes. I was just gonna say, speaking of decaying series, I'm Sonic. Oh yeah, that too.
00:29:08
Speaker
yeah have you been have you been reading up on like all the rumors about sonic rangers the supposedly new game i actually haven't haven't already read many of the leaks like i heard it was called sonic rangers which i think is the extent of it i can't remember what the other thing was but no feel free yeah
00:29:26
Speaker
So, Sonic Rangers is definitely confirmed because even in Sega's press release they added the title to it, so that much is pretty much a lock-in. But several people who supposedly playtested it were speaking out about how, like, so apparently it's gonna be a lot like Breath of the Wild. Oh yay. And, yeah, I like...
00:29:47
Speaker
I appreciate that Sonic's trying different things, but it's just you have a formula that works. You have adventure right there. People are begging for it. Just use that. Why do you have to copy Breath of the Wild? Like, I love Breath of the Wild, but it's not Sonic. See, funny enough, I was actually talking to some of my friends at Green Shield, and ironically enough, we were playing through Breath of the Wild.
00:30:10
Speaker
And I actually brought that up with him. I was like, why is it that nowadays games always want to be like the new Breath of the Wild? Because don't get me wrong, Breath of the Wild is like a beautiful looking game. It controls well, you know, there's like so much room for exploring. It's a great game. I can't take that away from it to be like,
00:30:30
Speaker
like, oh, I'm going to bash it because I'm not. But it seems as if, and I was saying this to Green Shield as well, it seems as if it's a bit like, remember there was a time where every game wanted to be like Skyrim? For example Fallout. It's Skyrim, but with guns or Far Cry. It's Skyrim, but with Dark Souls. It's Skyrim a bit harder.
00:30:56
Speaker
Yes, it's just, it seems as if it's looped around that this is a new game that has raised the bar and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, every game has to be like Breath of the White, which again, there's nothing wrong with like, not lowering, but you know, making your expectations higher or your standard rather, like, higher.
00:31:17
Speaker
yeah yeah oh what do you think of it though sorry so i think at least in terms of i think breath of the wild is just another instance of uh i mean ever since the industry was really created it's kind of been based off of knocking what's popular you know it's it's hey mario's popular so like a lot of platformers get created or hey street fighters now popular so we gotta make a lot of fighting games and
00:31:40
Speaker
I think that's just kind of been the history of the industry as a whole. I think Breath of the Wild, once people finally get sick of, you know, those styles of games, whatever next game comes out that inspires people, it's gonna get copied to Hell and back. Because I mean there's always, like, phases though, isn't there? Like, as you said, it was like the platformers in the kind of 90s, then it was like the shooters, then it eventually led on to sandbox games, and then...
00:32:06
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MMOs and battle royales. Oh my god battle royale is just the beat of my existence.
00:32:13
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about like that that's me being a hypocrite because I'm like oh I play warzone and then I'm like but also because of course you go you've got fortnite which honestly god like I just look at that game and I feel old I'm just like yeah not in a bad way like it looks as if it's a game that's like really like well made and everything and obviously like there's a popularity to it but I'm just like I honestly would not know where to begin
00:32:38
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And I don't like the idea of being absolutely decimated by a 12-year-old online. Just like sniped in the head. Just like being part of Little Jimmy 420's YouTube montage where he and I quote Pones noobs.
00:32:57
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Like, do you remember a few years back when everything was turning into a MOBA or like a, you know, Dota clone or anything? I remember that was one of the most, like, difficult times for me because it just felt like everything was like, we're gonna, you know, be the next Dota or the next League. I mean, technically they're still doing that, just very kind of subtly and off the side, like, especially with Pokémon.
00:33:22
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they're working with, I think it's Tencent. And yeah, they're making an MMO, or sorry, MOBA even, not an MMO. Like we'll never get an MMO of Pokémon. But they're making like a MOBA game and it was not really received well either. It was just like everyone was like, yeah, we don't want this. We just want a polished game.
00:33:47
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It's like, no. You don't deal with that. Yeah. Well, that is the one weird thing about trends. Trends don't, I mean, most trends don't really die off entirely. You know, there will always be at least a little subsection because, you know, people still make platformers, people still make shooters, people still make, you know, I'm sure they will still make battle royale games in the future. But I think the, you know, the zeitgeist of it will die down and move on to the next thing. We can only hope.
00:34:16
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Yeah, yeah, oh of course. Sonic trying to emulate Breath of the Wild just seems like a massively misguided idea. I honestly think nowadays it's just a series that they're trying to throw everything at the wall and seeing what sticks.
00:34:31
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yeah that's probably pretty accurate yeah it seems to be like you know oh let's try one with parkour oh no it doesn't work let's try one where we you know create your own OC oh that doesn't work oh we'll try one now that you have to fight as a werehog oh no please stop yeah i bet i don't go backwards in the timeline there but you know what i mean
00:34:53
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Yeah, no, I know what you mean. I think 06 really damaged Sega, or at least Sonic Team, to the point that they just don't want to go back to any previous style because it'll get, you know, mild criticism and then they just think, well, we can't go back to this now.
00:35:09
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I think O6 really just damaged them long term. I mean if you look at a parallel series in the form of Banjo-Kazoo, they had a similar experience where maybe not to the same extent as Sonic O6. I think definitely that killed off any
00:35:26
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attempts of innovation um there but with like nuts and
Sonic's 30th Anniversary
00:35:31
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bolts that came out it was like one that was completely different from what came before it and ever since then the only time I've seen them again is in ironically enough um in Smash Brothers but that's like I've never been seen since and I could be wrong in that if anyone could correct me on that please feel free to let me know but
00:35:50
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yeah like any main like any main series game i should probably reiterate like they're not really been one since but i suppose at least with sonica didn't kill off their you know the series completely but they still managed to like i wouldn't say brush it off because it's kind of become like especially with the let's players and things it's become a bit of a meme to play through sonic yeah that's the that's the trouble i think
00:36:14
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Also, if you, uh, I forget when this was, but if you read the art, there was like a Sega press release where they were saying like, we want to make less Sonic games and more Yakuza games. And I think that's a pretty indicative statement of their stance on Sonic is just like, you know, nothing's working out, so we're just going to de-emphasize it.
00:36:35
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It is. I think Sonic has so much potential still left in him, it's just not being brought out. It's a bit of a shame though that with the exception of Mario of course, because Nintendo are just like a huge cash train that just are not gonna stop. They're just gonna keep rolling through. But you know if you look at other series like Sonic, Mega Man, I mean even Pac-Man to an extent.
00:37:02
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yeah oh well no technically sorry i'll take that back because pac-man had like the tetris 99 treatment that they not recently oh yeah that is true yeah so okay pac-man you you get a you get a pass this time yeah yeah it's just a shame like a lot of these you know franchises are kind of
00:37:21
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No, like I get, you know, you have to evolve with the times, but it's kind of a shame that these franchises are kind of just getting, I wouldn't say dropped because there is sort of a demand for like, Sonic games and especially Mega Man games, like there's a whole other beast in itself.
00:37:38
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they yeah the trouble is like at least in terms of sonic they still even the bad games still sell surprisingly well but i i think sega has just stopped wanting to put in all the all the you know weight behind it they're probably gonna start draining something else like yakuza and and persona since they do own that now well do they
00:38:00
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Yeah, well, because Persona's Atlas, and Atlas is owned by Sega. Which is very weird to think about. That is actually quite strange. And if rumors end up being true, maybe Microsoft will buy Sega, and then it'll just all be owned by Microsoft.
00:38:17
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i wouldn't be surprised like if they just hovered them up because microsoft seemed to just be doing that with all the company like they did it with Bethesda most recently yes so we get to i mean rumor has it oh no no it's fine it's rumor has it microsoft wants to get into japan so at least from my perspective buying sega is a very smart choice it's got a lot of really japanese franchises and influence and
00:38:42
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It would be smart for them to do, but I would be sad to see Sonic be exclusive or PC and Xbox. I feel like he's always had a home on Nintendo, so it would be very sad if he never went to another Nintendo platform. Yeah, he would just get the banjo because of his treatment.
00:38:58
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Yeah, exactly. Where they'll be building cars and not only will they workshop and it's like, what has happened? I mean, truth be told, I don't think Microsoft could handle Sonic any worse, necessarily. Did you see the statement where Sonic Team said like, we were so surprised that Mania did well?
00:39:19
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why why is that surprising i mean this is the same company that uh and i know you did like a stream on this and everything and the response was a bit lackluster but for the 13th like stream or not the 13th sorry the um 30th even yeah get my numbers 13 or 30 what ages
00:39:41
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Yeah, the 30th anniversary where they basically announced a lot of very lackluster stuff to it and it just was not received well at all. Yeah, it really wasn't. I saw quite a lot of memes of people screenshotting before a prediction, people going like, oh yeah, we're gonna eat well tonight and then
00:40:07
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they post an after picture and the plate's empty. It's quite sad. No, sorry, I was just going to say, is he considering how one of the highlights was them saying that they were going to include a Sonic skin in the Olympics game or something? And I kind of remember what the game's got. Two Point Hospital, I think it is. Yes, Two Point Hospital. Yeah, because I remember growing up with
00:40:34
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as a theme hospital, a theme park hospital, something like that. And then they brought it back as that. But I was really laughing at the memes because it's like, you know, you've got your doctor who you can dress up as like Sonic or Tails or just any of the Sonic characters and it's like,
00:40:51
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Imagine if you're coming into the hospital to get your vaccine or you walk in and there's just a doctor dressed up as Sonic the Hedgehog waiting to give you a job. It's like, did nobody in Sega think, okay, maybe this isn't the best idea?
00:41:06
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I, you know, I've been talking to some friends about the Sonic Central stream. And so the three things they started off with were like, hey, you can wear a Sonic suit in the Olympic Games, the Two Point Hospital DLC, and that Sonic the Fighters is going to be an arcade machine and lost judgment. And I thought, like, those are neat little things, but those are like Easter eggs to me. The fact that they spent, you know,
00:41:33
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more than like a minute on those really just signaled to me they had like nothing to show and uh it really felt that way because when mania was announced as horrible as that stream was they spent an hour focusing and really pushing sonic mania as a concept this stream just felt like they really couldn't be asked to put that kind of effort in you know it's just hey here's sonic colors ultimate there you go and then it just really was quite sad
00:41:59
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I think considering we didn't get news about a new Sonic game until that time and the fact that the stream itself glitched out and was like, what? Because after a bit it was very interesting seeing your response to it on your channel because I know you streamed it and it was not a good time I think for anybody.
00:42:22
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Yeah, I mean like there were there were some some nice things like obviously the new sonic colors Animations look pretty cool, but there were so like when they talked about sonic prime I was like they showed nothing and said nothing about this and wasted like five minutes
00:42:38
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You know, it just always felt like they either weren't ready or didn't really care enough to put much, you know, behind it. Sonic Origins Collection, where it's like, hey, the Sonic 3 is getting re-released. It's like, great, who's doing it? There were rumors that they're gonna change up Sonic 3, and like, what does that entail? And they wouldn't even tell us that. It all feels very half-hearted.
00:42:58
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yeah other than that great company 10 out of 10 please sponsor me yeah right yeah sega you know if you're looking for someone to chill your products yeah i mean we've literally got super shadow here you know it's the perfect spokesperson for your company yeah exactly right
00:43:15
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Get in contact. But yeah, I know what you mean. It
Critique of Sega's Sonic Strategy
00:43:20
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was quite... I suppose not really reading the room or the internet as it were. Not really getting... Again it loops back to what you were saying before about like on the one hand you don't want to like cave in too much about what the fans want. But at the same time you kind of have to listen a little bit because otherwise you just get whatever the hell Sonic Forces was. Yeah exactly. Did you ever play that?
00:43:42
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I did. I mean, it's like a two-hour game. Oh yeah, true, true. I really detested it, because like even when I started to get into it, like the levels were so short, it was like by the time I really felt like I was getting going, it just ended. And of course the Avatar stuff was really poorly implemented. Like it was fun to create an OC, but beyond that it just wasn't fun to play as. Of course me bringing this up, but the Shadow DLC was terrible. Yeah.
00:44:12
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they made it like three levels yeah i think their original plan was they were going to make more would they not i think uh i don't remember hearing that well maybe that was just a fever dream from my end but no it's fine
00:44:28
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I got all sorts of like Sonic stuff mixed up. I was gonna say because before we joined I was thinking of bringing up something but I didn't want to be wrong about it so I looked it up and I couldn't find info on it anywhere but I remembered reading about how Sonic or you know Sega thought Sonic Heroes was the real Sonic Adventure 3 but they just didn't want to call it Sonic Adventure 3.
00:44:53
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Yeah, I would have been very disappointed. Because I'm going to be honest, I haven't... Remember you were saying earlier about how you played through the early Sonic games and you didn't realise there was a space in between that and the Adventure series?
00:45:10
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yes yeah yeah i was the same when i played sonic adventure one and two i absolutely loved them played through them and then just by chance i was in and this is like this is how far like this is how i'm showing my age here but i was in a blockbuster and of course i came across like the cover for sonic heroes and i was like sonic heroes why is that
00:45:36
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never heard of this. And I was honestly flabbergasted. I was like, oh my god, I've got to play this. And I played it and completed it, but it was not really for me.
00:45:54
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Right. Sorry, I was just going to say quickly that I just absolutely detest the art style for that game. You know, actually, I don't detest the art style so much, but I think certain graphics just need to be adjusted. Like, maybe, like, okay, maybe I'm being too harsh on, like, saying overall. Like, overall, it was okay, but the models that they use, like the sheet and the plastic, I just
00:46:18
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I don't like them and I hate the fact they use them for shadow. Considering that's meant to be like a dark and gritty game and then the like, oh by the way, yeah, we've got Plasticie Man with an AK-47 that's like, no, no, stop. Please stop.
00:46:34
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Yeah, well, if I remember, because Sonic Heroes was their first game being multi-platform. So they thought like, let's just make an engine that will work across multiple things in multiple games. Yeah. And, you know, stuff like that.
00:46:49
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happens. But sadly before stream I wasn't able to find their exact quote about heroes being adventure 3 so like I might be lying about that but I definitely remembered reading them go like well you know we after adventure 2 we wanted to continue on with like an explorative style so we made heroes and we decided we didn't want to call it 3 because that would you know scare non-sonic fans away. That does send vaguely familiar about scaring fans off.
00:47:18
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But that is definitely one of the games that people really wanted, like an adventure 3, and they've never won it since. Yeah, you're talking to one. Yeah, exactly.
00:47:30
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I still, to this day, I will be very excited about Adventure 3, but I'm going to be the most critical person of it. I will be that guy looking at every pixel in the trailer. I mean, let's face it, the closest we ever got to Adventure 3 was Sonic 06, and exactly, exactly. That is not something I'm happy to admit on the channel, to be like,
00:47:57
Speaker
I don't, I can see what they were going for in the third round then, O6, but it's... Well, at least for me. What I find difficult about saying that though is that it wasn't really intended to be a Sonic game initially, because I forget who, I think it was the programmer. It was like building a different physics-based game, and
00:48:19
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they said you know he thought like hey what you know since we need something for sonic's anniversary let's make a sonic game out of this so for me saying it's adventure three kind of feels off because like it wasn't planned to be a sonic game but then it is so i don't know i have mixed feelings on that i mean considering the art style for that is how big can we make sonic's head in proportion to a real life human being yeah yeah basically
00:48:46
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the love interest which again you know I'm cringed to say it but if she curled up like she was just a normal human woman if she curled up into a ball you know went to fetal position she would probably still be smaller than Sonic the Hedgehog's head and that is something that keeps me up at night I like it a lot I look at the ceiling and I think
00:49:06
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why did they make that decision? why is it about like a bobblehead or like a defunct a funkopop or something like this yeah yeah okay one thing though i will play i will at least play devil's advocate a little bit so sonic in his like conceptual stage was intended to have a human girlfriend oh yeah at least in that sense it's not unheard of yeah
00:49:32
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But they changed it during the planning stage and I'm glad they did because it obviously does not work. On the other hand though, at least that was the 90s where there was a lot of wacky things going on.
00:49:46
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yeah well i mean his girlfriend was going to be Madonna or something like that so did you know what looked like um oh what's her name the is it Pauline or something the woman song she kind of yeah yeah she kind of was like a blonde Pauline it just looked so weird yeah i i don't think i would have accepted it but i just would have been like yeah okay this is weird this is like bumpsy levels of weird which is a game i never played either but
00:50:14
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I played a little bit of it. It's not good. I was going to say, was it everything you dreamed of? I mean, I guess if that dream was a nightmare, yes. Okay. Fair point. Fair point.
00:50:26
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Yeah. So you know Sonic Xtreme? Yeah. The Saturn game that they cancelled? Oh yeah. So it was originally planned to be Sonic 4, and if you read the description for the plot that they were originally planning, it sounds like a really bad self-insert fanfic. Oh really? And I'm very glad they cancelled it, yeah. It's like, hey, there's Princess, you know, whoever and her father, the king, and you have to go rescue her, and it's just like...
00:50:55
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that would have been such a massive departure from from the classic 2d ones where it's like you're saving forest animals yeah i don't know it actually almost reminds me of when they tried to make a film for sonic not the new one but the yeah the ova ova that's the one yeah that was like him saving a cat girdle
Building Community in Streaming
00:51:14
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or something and
00:51:15
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yeah yeah never again full yeah never again to be honest i don't like the ova i like the animation style but not much else yeah uh i mean f anything it's given us good meme content that too yes i i admit i do like the i know everything you are going to do yeah
00:51:37
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Yeah, but you know what I equate it to? I equate it to, like, someone playing a piano off-key. Oh, okay. I'm gonna figure that out. Yeah, yeah. Because, like, you can recognize certain things, but then it just sounds so wrong. And that's what that feels like for me.
00:52:15
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yeah just yeah that kind of show was fine but yeah the OVA was too far apparently yeah i agree and the fact that they're partnering with like a
00:52:22
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But apparently it was meant to pitch a TV show that never actually got the green light.
00:52:26
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an owl in like a tie-dye shirt and it's just so bizarre it was very 90s yeah very because i think how did you ever oh sorry sorry no no no you first no no what were you gonna say oh well i was gonna say like did you ever see the episode of okay ko with sonic um i don't think so no
00:52:46
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Oh really? Oh, they announced it at Comic Con or something like, hey, we're gonna do an episode with Sonic in it. Honestly, I liked it. It was funny. A few memes came out of it and everything. Okay, that's fine. At least if you can laugh about it, then it's like, okay, some good came out of this.
00:53:07
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that's like yeah yeah um well one of the things they really focused on in that episode later well not focused the internet focused in on it but there's a scene where sonic is reclining in a chair that looks exactly like the one in ova at the start everyone got all excited i i died a little bit oh god i can imagine
00:53:27
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yeah but thankfully it wasn't a big thing it was like a quick gag just get it get it away get it gotta make the reference and then and then it just disappears speaking of that though like in terms of like fond and maybe not so fun maybe
00:53:45
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Because I'm thinking of the games you've played on stream, especially Sonic 06 of course. And Shadow the Hedgehog being another notable one. Because I do remember jumping into that stream and just being like, oh god, you're on that level. I was on the arc level when you joined. I was like, hey guys, how's it going? Oh no, you poor, poor person.
00:54:07
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Oh, I know. And I was trying to do the hero route too, which is the worst one. It really is. Usually I think I just do the kind of semi all right, and then by the time I get to the end I just do like a B-line for either Good or Evil. And the last couple of levels I'm like, yeah, I'm not. I'm not playing that. Go away.
00:54:26
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But yeah, sorry. I did have a point, sorry, to that question. So are there any memorable moments that you have when you were streaming?
00:54:43
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Oh, just in general. Oh, quite a lot. I mean, even just aside from some of my clips. So Sonic Adventure 2 is, I think, the only game I've ever 100%ed more than once. Because, you know, certain games 100%, but Adventure 2 is just so good, I just did it again. I did it on stream, and that was a very satisfying moment for me.
00:55:04
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you know, in that series, there was a clip of me playing Meteor Heard, uh, the Knuckles stage, and I was doing hard mode, and so hard mode has fixed emerald locations. If you've played Meteor Heard, you know that sometimes it'll spawn in a meteor to come down and hurt you. Yeah.
00:55:23
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But what's frustrating is on the hard mode stage, the first emerald is located behind a panel that you have to smash with a rock to access. And I had been trying at this stage a couple of times already because I would get the rock into the right position and a meteor would come down and destroy it.
00:55:44
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And it got to the point where I had positioned this rock perfectly. It was basically guaranteed that I would break the panel open. And then a meteor came down and destroyed it and I got really mad. And I had to take a deep breath and collect myself. Yeah, I've had a lot of fun moments. I could share playing Blade and Sorcery, which is a VR game. That's a ton of fun because I lose my mind. I sound like a murderer.
00:56:14
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because I am a murderer in that game. And yeah, honestly, I'm not...
00:56:18
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I mean, I've always wanted to be just kind of a streamer that people can just stop by and hang out with and have a nice time. So there aren't a whole lot of, you know, super exciting moments, but I've just kind of, in general, just being around people, being to, you know, being able to chat. I think that's the biggest thing for me. It's just because I don't get to talk about video games with the people around me a whole lot because nobody else is as obsessive as me. So if I go up to my, to my, well, okay, most of my friends.
00:56:47
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If I go up to some friends and I'm like, hey, did you see the cotton reboots getting brought to the west? And they were like, yeah, great, sure. But if I, you know, being able to chat and say to chat and go like, hey, you know, did you hear about this game release? And then people can be like, yeah, I've heard about that. That's cool.
00:57:25
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But I have found that it's brought a lot more self-confidence, a lot easier, you know, just communication. And just in general, I found it to be quite a, you know, an experience of nothing else. I would recommend streaming to everyone, basically. Would you say, though, that like, say when you got into streaming to begin with, was it what you expected?
00:57:34
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I think that's the biggest thing for me, more so than any individual clip.
00:57:47
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when you went into streaming did you have any kind of preconceptions that you knew what you were getting into? I'm not so much this way anymore but I used to not really be a fan of playthroughs and stuff because I always felt like you know
00:58:04
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If you like a game enough to see it through to its end, I feel like you should support the developer in some way, and sometimes I feel like playthroughs kind of discourage that, especially on, like, story-driven games. You know, it's not so much the case, you know, now that I've actually experienced it and realized that, hey, this actually gets people interested in things. But I definitely at least had that as a conception before I started streaming. I thought me streaming this game is going to, uh, discourage, you know, people's interest in actually getting it.
00:58:31
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But I found that that's not really the case. It's nice to be able to just share something and have someone go like, hey, I saw you play this and I was so interested I got it. That's really fun. Otherwise, I don't know. I tried not to have too many expectations going forward because I...
00:58:48
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I always feel like when you're trying something new, it's best to just not have expectations so you can build up from there. When I was streaming, I just did it. I was just going to say, as a fellow Sonic fan, I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, yeah. Not having the right expectations, I just feel like. Yeah, that's true. It's like, keep on rolling steady.
00:59:10
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Yep, yep. I do that with basically all the Sonic games nowadays, and that's why Mania is such a great surprise for me. Oh, I saw. Well, when I first watched the reveal stream, I was actually really upset because I didn't really understand what Mania was. Yeah. Because they didn't do a very good job communicating it. So I was like, I waited how long, and all I get is a ROM hack.
00:59:36
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like what is this but as it turns out you know i went into it with an open mind and it really surprised me sorry i'm just checking the i'm just checking the chat to see um if there's any pitchforks no we're okay we're okay there's no torches there's no pitchforks you're all right yeah
00:59:56
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well I yeah I mean ultimately I love mania it is it's the true sonic 4 to me when they announced it I definitely was trying to keep my expectations low because I didn't think there would be you know much from it that's the best way to approach those things absolutely and I was gonna say like it kind of whipping both like into you know again into streaming and
01:00:17
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like when I started streaming myself I like really wanted and this is probably a very naive
New Streamer Tips: Engagement and Balance
01:00:24
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way to go about streaming so any future streamers be warned but I really wanted to share like games that I played when I was younger so like for example when I started off like I did Pokemon it was like a very badly translated version of Pokemon green
01:00:40
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And then, yeah, it was an awful, like, first couple of streams. And then I started playing, like, other games from my past, so I got blanked on the name there.
01:00:51
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like Sonic Adventure, a couple of colleges to games, and then eventually when I got my computer fix and everything, I ended up doing things like Census Hit and Run. You know, games I essentially grew up with and I had very much a fondness for these games. Some of the games, not really so much for Sonic, but for some of the other games, I didn't rage on stream, but I got very
01:01:19
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like frustrated because I was playing these Gatelight especially Simpsons Hit and Run. Because Simpsons Hit and Run is one of those games where it's just like you think oh it's a great game and technically it is but there's a lot in that that is just so frustrating that you think why we here just to suffer.
01:01:37
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Well, literally I died, I think. It was like one second away from completing the game and because the timer ran out for a cutscene that I couldn't even control. It was just a nightmare, essentially. But my main point for that wasn't to rant about hit and run.
01:01:54
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by any means, but it was more to say, do you ever worry if you're going to play a game from your childhood, like Sonic, that it might not hold up? That's an interesting question, I guess to an extent, but at least for me I'd like to think I like the games I like for genuine game design reasons. So, you know.
01:02:16
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When I streamed Shadow, I definitely had slightly fonder memories of it than it actually was. But I think, take this for what you will, new streamers, but like, I think the best way to approach Twitch streaming in general is to just stream what you're passionate about. You know, people will be able to tell if you're just doing something just to go along with a trend, or if you're doing something because you genuinely want to do it.
01:02:40
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And so for me, the little bit of hesitation I get from a game not holding up is kind of overridden by the fact that it's something I'm just passionate about and want to share. I think that's, you know, I get what you mean, but I think that's the important thing for me.
01:02:57
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I technically know the answer for this because I know you're also a fellow variety streamer. Hashtag variety streamer gang. Representing up here. Yes, yeah. But was there ever a time where you thought I was just going to focus on one game or one series? Was there ever a point where you thought that or were you always set on being a variety streamer?
01:03:23
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Well, I was set on being a variety streamer, but there are a lot of people who say if you just stick with one game, you know, you'll become a part of that community and people will find you easier. And so there is always that temptation to stick with the game for a while, so that way you can establish yourself and what you're for. For me, kind of as a sidetrack here, but I used to be a big fan of
01:03:48
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Star underscore on YouTube he was a TF2 commentator and he was amazing I loved all of his content but he actually just uploaded a video about this recently where he was saying that like the community really didn't support him anywhere else they would complain if he didn't upload a TF2 video and you know it eventually just drained on him and that's that's kind of what I want to avoid because I could you know
01:04:13
Speaker
I'm happy to stream a bunch of Sonic games, and I know I'll be streaming games like Adventure 2 for forever, but I worry about sticking with one game for too long just because I fear that, you know, if I want to do something else, because, you know, variety is the spice of life, I worry that people will just go, hey, he's not streaming this thing, you know, what the hell? That's just not what I want to, you know, encourage, so...
01:04:36
Speaker
I think variety is, you know, better for me personally but I know there are plenty of people who find much more success sticking with one thing and I've definitely thought about it. It is quite strange as something that I have noticed with a lot of like, you know, like other variety streamers I've talked to where they've said that they either know someone or
01:04:57
Speaker
they've been in a very similar position when they're saying, oh, I want to, you know, they've noticed people who like stick to one game, whether it be like Call of Duty, you know, or League of Legends, you know, something. And initially they do get like a very large following. But then as soon as they change games and say like, oh, I'm bored of this game. I don't want to play, you know, you know, like I don't want to play Call of Duty, let's say, for example.
01:05:22
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I want to play this other game. Sorry, it just reminded me of the fact that there's like a new, I don't know if you've seen the boot, or not bootleg, but there's like a new Pokémon knockoff game that was recently announced. And it's called like Power World, but it's like Pokémon in a world where they have guns as well. And it's just surreal. I would recommend like going to watch a trailer. It's just absolutely surreal.
01:05:52
Speaker
yeah i'll have to check that out yeah but it's like i'm imagining you know like someone saying oh i'm going from college duty to you like something like that and then immediately because people are coming for the college duty content they're saying oh no i don't i don't want it yeah i don't want to come for that content i want to you know
01:06:09
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come for the other content so you're kind of like I mean at the end of the day it's like doing as you said earlier it's doing what makes you happy it's at least for me it's a matter of what helps me sleep at night you know like would I would I like to be popular for you know for one thing and then eventually grow to hate it or you know would I rather be not so popular and
01:06:34
Speaker
you know do what I like to do and I think at least for me I'm the type of person who would just choose you know doing what I want to do but there are plenty of people who will you know say like I'm just gonna be this one streamer I want to find success in that and that's fair you know fair enough to them I'm just not that type myself I mean there is there's no like wrong or right way to stream
01:06:56
Speaker
yeah oh absolutely there there are people who sleep stream themselves sleeping and find success with that so like who might argue okay there's one wrong way to do it i mean i don't know it's it's so weird yeah i honestly like ever since i got to you know i started doing like v tubing and things i think technically i can get away with it
01:07:23
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if I fairly still leave on stream but I think people would be wondering why the game was like still running in the background and there's just nothing but snoring coming from a 3d avatar and if you like okay this is this is this is quite awkward yeah back to the street
01:07:42
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, for what it's worth. There are plenty of things I would look at and go, that would never work. And then it ends up working for people. So, you know, like eating streams and stuff. It's not something I'm interested in, but I mean, more power to you if you can make it work. Yeah, it's the whole you do you thing, doesn't it?
01:08:04
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Like, who am I to judge other people? So, as long as you're not doing anything illegal or, you know, hate-ridden, I'm cool with it. So yeah, just kind of as a wrap in that point, is there any tips that you would give to upcoming streamers? Or rather doing upcoming?
01:08:28
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, definitely quite a few. For one thing, I would definitely say, you know, don't expect much when you start off. Because definitely if you start worrying about view counts and stuff right away, you will drive yourself insane and it'll burn you out.
01:08:46
Speaker
So, if at all possible, try not to pay attention to view counts and stuff at the beginning because it's just, it can be destructive. You know, for one thing, don't take that any view count stuff personally when you do pay attention to it either. I, you know, I've had streams that are less successful and more successful and when I try and think about why, you know, a lot of times there isn't really much of a reason, just, you know, people have their lives and aren't able to attend or, you know, what have you. It's easy to take that personally, but you really shouldn't, you know.
01:09:15
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So I definitely recommend that. Obviously stream what you're passionate about, which I kind of went over.
01:09:20
Speaker
Because again, I think people can smell the genuine interest versus the, you know, people just trying to bank on something popular. I guess the only other thing I would, you know, majorly say is like, try your best to have good audio. It's something that, you know, as a, I mean, I still struggle with myself, but if you ever go to a streamer with bad audio, there's something just in like the back of my mind, at least my mind, that is like, oh gosh, this is so painful.
01:09:49
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and it's not because i'm trying to be like mean about it but there's just something instinctive that makes me just kind of worried about bad audio so definitely try and pay attention to all your audio and you know balancing and stuff because that's that's really important and also make sure that your mute button's not on oh yeah because i've had that and it is not a fun time
01:10:12
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, if there's no harm also in asking things, I've found. Because, like, if you go, hey, you know, is my audio good? Like, you know, is the game too loud? I feel like people are happy enough to oblige, you know, just say, yeah, you know, the game could be a little lower or higher. Like, I feel like that goes a long way. And I feel like some people are too prideful to admit or, you know, to ask.
01:10:38
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there's no harm in asking that's that's kind of really the main thing because i mean at the end of the day i mean see when you started out as well like did you feel as if you had to like i mean your setup and overlay is awesome just now but like see when you started out did you feel as if you had to get like a you know like a fancy layout with like transitions and things like that and yeah i definitely so my very first streams
01:11:06
Speaker
which I don't think anyone has really seen. I just downloaded one off of Streamlabs, like a little shop for overlays. And it works, but you know, there was that, I don't know what to call it, drive, I guess, to get something personal, you know, custom.
01:11:25
Speaker
It's just one of those things where it's a nice thing to have, but I don't think should be the immediate focus for new people. Because I think just refining what you have should be the most important first step, and then you can work on all the little extras. If you're messing up fundamentals, all these little things aren't going to fix them.
01:11:44
Speaker
that is definitely something i think i learned a hard way that honestly it's as you said like as long as the game's coming through okay and you've got good audio then i think definitely that's i wouldn't say that's all you need but i feel as if that's like the major thing you need to get right and like audio in itself is like a huge like beast and a half trying to get the right level trying to make sure it's coming through the right channel and everything that's like yes yeah utter nightmare
01:12:14
Speaker
I mean, other than that, like new streamers, yeah, go for it. I always remember when I started off, like as I said before, I was playing Pokémon and I had made like this kind of custom. It wasn't overly fancy, but it was like, it was just like a kind of a mini overlay thing where I had like, you know, like the team and everything and the computer like I was using at the time was like a second hand one that one of my friends had
01:12:42
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like he was tossing that out and he was like oh here you go and I was like oh okay and it was like a game of Russian roulette where sometimes it would work for like a good hour sometimes it would work for like 10 minutes sometimes it would work for you know half an hour it was just it was never consistent and I was always worried because I thought okay I can stream from like my xbox but if I stream from my xbox then
01:13:07
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I was worried about, again, and this is definitely something you shouldn't worry about, but the view counts and everything. I was really worried about that thinking, is it going to be as popular or not? But weirdly enough, playing Sonic Adventure, and I've told this story a hundred times, so apologies if you've heard this for the hundred and first.
01:13:31
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But yeah, basically long story short, I played Sonic Adventure and that's when I started getting strangers into the stream beyond people that I knew in real life. That was the turning point. It made me kind of realise that you don't need a fancy layout. I mean, don't get me wrong, obviously, pretty visuals and all of that. Yeah, it's a nice thing to have. Oh yeah, absolutely.
01:13:55
Speaker
But at the same time I suppose it's like as long as you are getting yourself across there. I mean like I've seen what you do in your streams and you do it like really well. Like both interacting with the chat and you know like balancing the gameplay as well because again I don't want to like put another streamer or anything.
01:14:14
Speaker
you know there's some streams I've got into where I've desperately like wanted to be supportive but they're not very interactive if you know what I mean yeah I know and I mean don't get me wrong if they say like not going to be talking to the chat or if it's a challenge run that's fair enough you know like I don't expect it or you know if it's like a really popular streamer and you know if you touch the like the chat bar you're gonna get your
01:14:39
Speaker
you're gonna get your fingers like sawing off because it's so fast but especially with like streamers who are quite new like streamers are new aren't it like that's just a learning curve like that's not something that you know the people are necessarily going to know but there's some that it looks as if they've been around for ages and they still don't interact or if they do it's very minimum
01:15:03
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I suppose it's like it depends on what you're looking for. And sometimes it's just it doesn't feel as welcoming when you walk in. Like I'm not expecting them to like, you know, have like party poppers ready to be like, Satsunami!
01:15:20
Speaker
But at the same time, you're like, even a he, you know what I mean? And again, not everyone's gonna want to be called out. But yeah, I suppose it's just trying to find that style that suits you. JL of course, yeah. That's probably one thing, at least for my streams. I've always tried to treat my streams kind of like it's just someone, you know, other people on the couch with me kind of thing. I kind of try and treat everyone like, hey, it's a new friend. It's someone who just joined me on the couch and is gonna watch me play through this.
01:15:49
Speaker
And I think that goes to make people feel really just kind of at home and comfortable. And that's a really important thing because, you know, again, like you said, it depends on what you're going for. But for, you know, for my money, I always try and, you know, just kind of feel like a little community, a little group of people who enjoy watching
01:16:09
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you know, certain games or just chatting about things. Also, I did think of two more pieces of advice I could give. Go for it. One is definitely consistency, which is something a lot of smaller streamers struggle with and even I do to an extent. You know, Twitch recommends that you like have a stream schedule so people know when you're streaming so they can come back and stuff. But I think, you know, a lot of people complain about like algorithms when it comes to YouTube or Twitch or wherever you stream.
01:16:39
Speaker
But I think that algorithms like it the most when they see someone consistent, you know, just doing what, you know, what they want, which is trying to, you know, get out there. So I think, you know, obviously no algorithm's perfect.
01:16:54
Speaker
But I think if you stream regularly, keep at it, it generally just statistically works out for you. It doesn't have to be super often or really long streams. You can do whatever works for you, just as long as you keep it consistent. Because I feel like people have a tendency to overthink it.
01:17:13
Speaker
Yeah. Where it's like, okay, I need to, you know, these are the most popular times and this is the most popular, like, hours. I just think if you just stay with your own schedule and keep consistent, things will work out for you. Absolutely. Yeah.
01:17:29
Speaker
Oh, no, no, it's fine. Sorry, my brain kind of got stuck trying to think of the second thing. Well, oh, yeah, just interact interaction is a great thing. And I think, you know, for small streamers, you know, they sometimes struggle with that. But try not to like,
01:17:46
Speaker
What's the word I'm looking for? Blame yourself too much for it? Because even for me, I still struggle with trying to keep up with chat and play the game that I'm playing. But as long as you let chat know that you're not just trying to ignore them or if something happens.
01:18:03
Speaker
You know, you'll eventually learn to get used to, you know, checking chat, see if anyone's said anything, or you'll find your groove. Interaction is key, but also, you know, don't beat yourself up if you're not perfect the first few times. It's just something
Valuing Connections in Streaming
01:18:19
Speaker
to grow into. It is hard, though, to like... Oh, I guess like last point, I swear.
01:18:24
Speaker
I could talk for Scotland as well but it is like something that is very difficult at times to do like in terms of not taking it personally and being like okay this is just I have to admit I have been in other streamers chats and don't get me wrong I'm not like blaming the streamer themselves for like their chat I mean for your chat especially it's like a very welcoming place like all the people that are in your chat are really like
01:18:53
Speaker
you know, they're very, you know, welcoming, they're very nice. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. There's some streams I've been into though where it's kind of like... I think honestly it's... the chat's kind of reflective though of the kind of streamer you want to be, if that makes sense. Oh, absolutely.
01:19:14
Speaker
Oh, I was actually going to bring up. So, you know, a lot of people complain about certain platforms like, oh, YouTube is, you know, the community so toxic or like Twitter, so toxic or anything. I've always found that the Internet in general is always just kind of what you make of it.
01:19:30
Speaker
Like if you end up being a really negative person online, if you kind of build yourself up as being some sort of, you know, mean person, you tend to attract those types of people. And I've always felt like as long as you make it clear, you know, what you want to get out of it and what you're trying for, I feel like people tend to gravitate towards that, you know, birds of a feather, so to speak. So I wanted to be welcoming and I, you know, I don't want
01:19:56
Speaker
that kind of toxicity in my chat room. So I think I've found people who, you know, kind of gravitated towards that and understand that, yeah, being toxic is not going to be, you know, appropriate around here. So I feel like that's another thing that certain streamers need to kind of learn too is like, there are some people who think like, oh, I'll just put up with it because hey, they're still, you know, giving me views.
01:20:18
Speaker
But I think there's a point where it stops being beneficial. It's honestly not worth the views if you're bringing that kind of attention. Exactly. I have to admit, I've not dealt with like, again, touch wood, but you know it's like there have been instances where I've dealt with semi-difficult people or people just being quite awkward and like just in the chat whether they're like, oh review this video or
01:20:48
Speaker
There was another instance where someone like put me on blast saying like, oh you like unfollowed me or you did this or oh can you play with me on this game or something like just really random things out of nowhere and don't get me wrong it is stuff you have to expect like being a streamer and everything but
01:21:07
Speaker
at the same time it's like you would rather that everybody in the chat felt comfortable like after that I always feel really happy when I look at my chat and like well I don't want to say a stranger but you know like someone who's like not a regular comes in they'll be like oh hey I see you playing this game or hey you know this or that and then like people in my chat start welcoming you know them saying
01:21:32
Speaker
hey, how are you doing? I know in your chat you've got a user called, and I'm going to call them out, Groovy Ninja, who of course, they are just very welcoming every time I come into the chat. And they go, oh, hi, sat soon. Groovy's amazing. They're so nice.
01:21:51
Speaker
Yeah, really. I was so thankful to have met them. I was actually going to bring up the stream where I met them because it's always really nice to have someone who will join and just be like, hey, you seem like a really cool person. And I feel right following you. I think that's kind of
01:22:10
Speaker
you know, the best way to go about it because you want people to, or at least for me, you know, I don't want them to feel like they have to follow. I feel like I want follows that actually are interested in just following, you know, who think I'm a cool guy. So, you know, meeting people like Groovy and also I met in my stream. I'm going to name drop Joker girl. She was incredibly kind and a fantastic streamer as well.
01:22:37
Speaker
It's just nice because when you have people like that join, it just makes you feel so much more, you know, I don't know what the word is, propped up, like you're able to find people who also are just really kind and cool. So that's what I've enjoyed most about building my community, is just finding people who are really cool and actually interested in just being around and chatting. And I think that's the fun of it for me. Like this is... I don't mean this to sound like negative at all, sorry.
01:23:07
Speaker
And I was just going to say like, oh God, what I'm going to say, by the way, it's not as bad as I just made it out to be. I was like, it's like not to be negative. Like, did you expect that, like, see going into streaming, like, did you expect to meet like so many, you know, just brilliant people really, like new friends and everything?
01:23:26
Speaker
Well, yeah, at least from my experience, I was thinking maybe I'll meet like one person who I'll kind of be acquaintances with. But, you know, as it turns out, I've actually met quite a few friends through streaming and it's been honestly, especially in the pandemic, it has been quite the godsend just to, you know, meet people and socialize and just find really nice people to talk to because I was feeling really isolated. So, you know, having a stream to get to was just such a blessing.
01:23:57
Speaker
shoutouts to groovy for for keeping me going yeah thanks groovy yes yeah it is amazing though like after my eye personally wasn't sure because you know that way when you go into like a new community on the internet and you're not really too sure like how how things are gonna go you know it's like yeah yeah it's either
01:24:19
Speaker
you're going to go in and you're going to meet a lot of amazing people, which is also my experience, but like, or you're just going to go into it and people are going to be quite, you know, like standoffish and cold, maybe. I definitely think it's like a luck of the draw, really, for sure. Because some streams I've gone into, they've been, including yours, of course, as well, like they've been incredibly warm, very, you know,
01:24:45
Speaker
like receptive and everything and then it's led to me like talking to people later on whereas there's some like streamers where you know that way when you try to talk to them or try to make like a effort and then yes it kind of like doesn't go anywhere and I'm not saying that as if oh with every streamer you have to like be best friends with them or
01:25:07
Speaker
or get anything from it, it's just more connecting with people. It's amazing how you go from popping into someone's chat to... Sorry, I'm just laughing because I'm thinking the reason we met was just because I popped into your chat to watch you play Sonic 06 and now you're here. It's just amazing how it kind of goes along, if you know what I mean.
01:25:33
Speaker
Absolutely, I was gonna say because after you popped into my chat I remembered following you and like popping into your chat and I remembered seeing your community and you know initially I was like because this is just a personal thing but like I was kind of anxious because I don't know who these people are like you know
01:25:49
Speaker
I don't know what the social circumstances are. But after I've been in a few of the chats, I recognize people. And you have a great community too, who I've felt very welcome in. And it's just one of those things that I don't think people fully understand what it's like to just be around that. Quite a blessing.
01:26:13
Speaker
yeah i do love my community i have to say i'm gonna be completely biased here and be like yep they're the best 10 out of 10 yeah i do love my community they're just so but i honestly would and this will sound so like it might sound a bit cheesy but in all honesty i would honestly rather have like a small community that
01:26:42
Speaker
you know it's like it feels very kind of close-knit which is why like I also have the discord for you know like anyone who wants to you know like talk about things they want to just exchange memes or anything like that you know like I want to make sure that they are you know they feel like there's a place that can just kind of chill and
01:27:00
Speaker
you know and I know you do the same as well it's just really nice knowing that people are coming back just to kind of feel you know like they can chill out there or they can do like this or that rather than coming into a chat will you think oh god what am I getting myself into here?
01:27:17
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Yeah,
Managing Fame and Community Size
01:27:18
Speaker
yeah, absolutely. I kind of grapple with this, you know, because sometimes I think to myself like, what if I just suddenly overnight became like the next ninja or whoever, like, you know, just hundreds of thousands of people just suddenly started, you know, following me and all that. I thought about how I would react and, you know, I definitely prefer the kind of small community feel, but I always feel like I would never want to turn someone down who genuinely does want to be a part of a part of the group, you know.
01:27:47
Speaker
Um, so it's, I wouldn't necessarily say I like small communities in that I like the vibes that they give, but also like I, if, if I grew to be like some sort of massive phenomenon, as long as everyone was nice, you know, I would still be.
01:28:02
Speaker
happy with that too. It's just a, you know, it's just a matter of, I don't know, what's the word, personality rather than size. I mean, that's the important thing for me. I mean like, god forbid, like if I ever got to that point, but I feel as if that would be the thing that I would miss the most.
01:28:18
Speaker
be able to interact with the chat directly. To be able to have that sense of community. Because don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing bigger streamers. Maybe one or two of them.
01:28:33
Speaker
but you know it's like you don't feel as if and again I know it's kind of like it's not like a you're not really friends with the streamer if you know what I mean well we are but you know like with bigger streamers I mean I suppose you don't feel like you know them yeah it's like it's kind of hard to feel like I wouldn't say a personal connection but you know it's like it's hard to think oh you're part of a community when it's like you'll say hey and like let's say ninjas chat
01:29:00
Speaker
for example, it's a hey, and then that gets lost by like a hundred Pepe faces, you know, like coming up like a second later. Whereas at least with a list of smaller communities, you can always get to know other streamers. And if you are a streamer as well, you're not like you and I both are, you know, it's like, it's a fantastic way to, you know, get to know, not only get to know people, but also like get a supposed tips as well and kind of like,
01:29:29
Speaker
how can you? I'm not advocating stealing ideas by the way. I mean like, what's this idea? But you know like getting kind of ideas for your own streams and things like that and you know being able to bounce ideas off of one another and again it's like, I guess you could say it's like a sub-community. It's like a community within a community. Community's empty.
01:29:51
Speaker
Whereas you can talk to your followers and become friends and everything, but then you've also got the other creators that you support and then you become friends with them through that. I just think it's awesome. That's a possibility. Fun times for Twitch.
01:30:12
Speaker
Yes, definitely. I love my community too, for anyone from my community listening and thank you to, you know, for honestly everything, for keeping me going and having a nice time with me and everything. Yeah, second that your community is awesome. Thank you. And a message to my community as well. By the way, that doesn't mean you're any less valid.
01:30:35
Speaker
I just want to point that out. Your community is so welcoming and it's so friendly. Thank you. Honestly, it's a pleasure to be in your streams. It's a pleasure to chill out. I really enjoy being in yours. I'm just sad that I can't always do it because of the time differences and it's just the hectic schedule I have in my real life. Oh yeah, time schedules are horrible.
01:31:03
Speaker
yeah and also like there are also a lot of different streamers i've met and like you know want to support but there aren't enough hours in the day to be at every one of them so like
01:31:14
Speaker
I'll find myself trying to go to two or three at once and it just doesn't work out as well. I always
Future Technology Speculations
01:31:21
Speaker
feel bad when I see a couple of streamers where I'm like, oh, I'm friends with that person, I'll go in their stream. But then you see a couple others and you're like, oh no, bye you streamer at the same time. That's all right.
01:31:36
Speaker
Oh, I know. That's like me every day. It's like, oh, I know this person. I wanted to support them. And then it's like, oh, but then this person's on line two and this person too. And then I just end up having, you know, an entire window full of tabs of people who I want to go support more, but I just can't, you know, can't be in so many places at once. So it's just culties of wanting to support. It's totally worth it at the end though. Oh, absolutely. No doubt there. It is still worth doing, but there's definitely an amount of
01:32:05
Speaker
Oh gosh, I wanna do all these things and I can't. It's like one day, one day they'll have technology that'll definitely suit it. Yes, oh yeah. We can multi-stream one day. I'll clone myself. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they'll be like Google Lurking or something. I'm sure Amazon will think of it.
01:32:24
Speaker
or an AI that acts exactly like you to go into other streams.
01:32:45
Speaker
I wonder how an AI based on me would react. I'd probably be fairly generic, just be like, hi, doing well, you. Hello fellow streamers. Edge is high. Hello fellow humans. Before
Super Shadow's Platforms and Content
01:33:02
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we kind of finish up, where can these amazing people like listening at home find your content?
01:33:09
Speaker
So my main source of content is Twitch, obviously. So Twitch Super Shadow 271 is my username. Honestly, if you just look up Super Shadow 271 anywhere, you'll probably find me, but it's my main. I have four main things. I have a Twitch account where I do all my streams and stream pretty regularly.
01:33:31
Speaker
I have a main YouTube channel where I've been trying to work on gaming content, but between real life things and my streaming and stuff, I've kind of been slow to upload. I am working on gaming content for a main YouTube channel, so Super Shadow 271 there. I have a Stream Archives channel, so if you want to catch up on older streams of mine, I do have a Stream Archives YouTube channel. And I have a Twitter account where sometimes I will post funny things and or just retweet interesting stuff.
01:33:59
Speaker
those are the main four yeah guys go check out definitely because yeah as i said before and i'm not lying when i say that you know i say this to every person jokingly as they come on like saying i'm not just saying this because you're on but genuinely like it is such a chill environment like in your streams and yeah your youtube videos are great as well i appreciate it like i really do enjoy them go check it out guys thank you
01:34:24
Speaker
I'd appreciate it. But also, thank you, Satsu, for having me on. I honestly could talk way more, so if you ever want to have me on again, I'd be happy to do it. Do you know, I might take you up on that in all seriousness. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Any time. Just like to say, hey, you want to go and I'll be on. So, yeah, yeah, definitely let me know. Yeah, it's really fun. Yeah. So next week we're going to be doing the six hour Chatsanami special on our opinions on Sonic 06. Yes.
01:34:54
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. We're going to go over every frame of gameplay. Yeah, every hour we have to switch characters. Yes. Okay, we're at Sonic, then we're at Elise. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Randomizer. Oh, yeah, that gives me an idea. No, I better put that idea away. It's like we probably did. Well, not probably. We definitely could talk about that.
01:35:19
Speaker
Oh yeah, no, I could talk for hours about anything. But yeah, I'll definitely be tricking you up on that offer. Yeah. Thank you so much though. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, if you guys want to see more of my content, you can see me on Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Twitch of course, TikTok and Facebook. I swear to god this list gets longer every episode.
01:35:43
Speaker
under the name Satsunami 42. If you want to check out more Satsunami episodes then you can check it on Anchor, Spotify and of course all good podcast distributors so if you have a podcast app type in Satsunami and yeah if you see the red panda click on it and yeah I will be there. Also there
Gratitude and Closing Remarks
01:36:04
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is the T-posing series which is a let's play series between my friends and I where
01:36:09
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We've basically just been playing through a bunch of random games, Breath of the Wild, as you and I were talking about earlier there, as well as Warzone and Heavy Rain, also known as Depressing Dad Simulator. So yeah, if you want to see a talking sandwich critique, I better finish that sentence. If you want to see a chippy sandwich, a bully, a depressed dad, then probably the weirdest thing I've said all night, but you know what?
01:36:39
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It's on, it's on there. Yeah, it's on. Yeah, it's on. Oh, it has been a lot of fun doing those. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, if you want to check them out, yeah, it's on the YouTube channel, Satsanami42. And yeah, just look up the T-pose in Let's Play and enjoy. Yeah, highly recommended.
01:37:03
Speaker
yeah take it from me oh yeah i'm definitely not being paid to say this wait hold on hold on um right okay okay i've just logged into paypal um what's up streaming right yeah yeah yeah
01:37:18
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Yeah, we agreed to get the second cut afterwards, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. Don't worry, I'll edit this out. Nobody's gonna hear this, but... Yeah, nobody will hear. But yeah, Chad, thank you. Honestly, thank you so much. Oh, thank you. Yeah, you joined in tonight. Yeah, no, honestly, it's been a pleasure, like, talking Sonic and just, like, Jane, those two things as well. Oh, of course. I love talking about it. And, you know, you're really nice, so I appreciate you. Yeah, no, it's much appreciated.
01:37:48
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all I can say is I'm looking forward to going back through it and editing it later yeah yeah should be fun oh I was just gonna say I'm definitely gonna be rewatching it or listening I guess myself oh no definitely
01:38:04
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The void will still be up guys, so feel free to us. Thank you all so so much for joining us tonight. Again, thank you Shadow for joining and also a huge thank you to your community, Groovy as well and Pam.
01:38:25
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everyone really in your community that's been so nice and again yep shout out to my community as well i'm just yes it's like i'm just making sure you're also loved yeah well also shout out from me to your community for you know having me on and you know being cool and all that i really appreciate it
01:38:46
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No, it's honestly, it's been a pleasure, so thank you. And yeah guys, as always, stay safe, stay awesome, and of course, most importantly, stay hydrated. Bye guys! Bye!