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episode 38 strangers and vanilla hunt
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the guys babble about the upcoming strangers reboot and go deep on their feelings on the differences between event and vanilla hunt
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Introduction and Host Catch-up
00:00:00
Speaker
Let's go Cry about that you dirty old bitch All right, welcome back that's right you got two in a row baby This is waiting for other players a hunt showdown podcast Sitting down here John cat live here at the cat house
00:00:28
Speaker
not picking up swing shift currently at loosest drinkery, but I have this beautiful son of a bitch just. Yeah. Hold on. Can I get a large Americano? No whip. All right. Fuck that up. The Duke of devastation.
00:00:50
Speaker
The count of Montefisto. Fucking awesome. The current four star, soon to be six star. All right, we got free roof colliders over here for the winner of the wet teacher contest. The one man Kung Fu SWAT team. Harrison. Harrison, how are you doing this afternoon?
X-Men 97 Discussion
00:01:11
Speaker
Doing pretty good. How are you doing? I'm OK. I'm bouncing back. It's been a hell of a couple of months. I'm glad to get the show back on its feet.
00:01:20
Speaker
Same. Yeah. So have you been up to anything new? Um, not, not really, uh, watching a little bit, a little bit of television. We got a little bit of, uh, I've had family stuff going on. If anybody's talking to me on Instagram, you know all about that. But for the most part, um, we've had X-Men 97. We're polishing that off. We had the last episode is coming out.
00:01:50
Speaker
Uh, is it, is, is it only 10 or is it 11 10 last episode? Well, that's two nights. Yeah. Drops on Wednesday. Yes. Tonight. I'm excited to see the end. Um, it's a hell of a show. Well, for one fucking, uh, it's been, it's been great to have it back, but two.
00:02:15
Speaker
They said they're actually thinking that since it's been so big, they're just going to keep making it and they're just going to have them animate like 30 at a clip. So that way we don't have to wait for more seasons. They just do a bunch in a batch. That sounds awesome. I think that would be great. Um, speaking of doing a bunch in a batch, I will say this, uh, click clearly. This is a segment one. Did I hit the bumper?
00:02:45
Speaker
No. Well, people are going to fucking scream if they don't hit it now. I'm your huckleberry. That's just my game. OK.
Renny Harlan's New Trilogy Discussion
00:02:56
Speaker
I haven't really been playing much besides Hunt. I played a little bit of Wolfenstein, a fired up Fallout after I watched a little bit of the show. Like, I've been doing my typical shit. But you know that they're bringing back the Strangers as a franchise. Yes.
00:03:15
Speaker
I'm serious how that's going to go. So I listened to an interview because the guy that's directing it is Renny Harlan. That's the guy that made like a long kiss. Good night. He made he did of he did Nightmare on Elm Street for Die Hard to I think like he's done like. He's really good with genre like he's cheesy as fuck, but he's really good with genre.
00:03:43
Speaker
But the thing that I heard, I heard an interview with them and they were like, so how does it work? Did you just film all three of them back to back? Apparently he got set up for a three movie deal. So this is a full, this is a trilogy in the fullest sense of the word that it is a three picture deal where it is a literal movie. One bleeds into movie two, which culminates in the end of movie three. Okay.
00:04:13
Speaker
They've already filmed all three of them. Oh, thank God. And they were like, did you just Peter Jackson this shit and film them all like one right after the other? He said, no, we filmed them all at the exact same time. He was like, he was like, if I'm in the house and I'm filming in the house and there's scenes in the same house and movie two and three were shooting those scenes then.
00:04:41
Speaker
Nice. And then they were like, so you filmed three movies. Did you get paid three times? And he's like, no, we got fucked on that deal. He's like, they sold it to me as one long four hour Epic. And then after I signed on the dotted line, they're like, by the way, uh, it's one long Epic that we're going to cut up into three chapters. And that's how we'll release it. We'll release it. Chapter one, chapter two, chapter three. I want a bitch. But according to him, like he keeps saying it's not a remake, which.
00:05:12
Speaker
I think, I don't think it is. Cause like the new one looks like, I mean, the original is just a home invasion movie. Every home invasion could be a remake at that point. Uh, that movie hush where the chick is like a deaf and the guy's fucking with her. Yeah. I mean, you could say that that's a fucking remake of the strangers at some point, but, um, yeah, I mean, it's such a basic concept. Yeah. It's, but the, um,
00:05:40
Speaker
I'm anxious to see what he does because basically I'll wrap this up here since I kind of hung you at the dry last episode with your Final Fantasy talk. I want to see what happens because I love the first one. The first one was it had me on the fucking edge of my seat because literally you can't watch that and be like they're not doing
00:06:07
Speaker
Anything that you you do the typical armchair quarterbacking and being like why don't you just get out of the house? They try that The fucking car has
Hunt: Showdown Gameplay Reflections
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Speaker
shredded tires and set on fire. Why don't you just lock the doors? They try that they're already in the house Why don't you just barricade yourself in a room with a shotgun? They do that and then bad shit happens as a result like they do literally everything that you would think of to get out of that situation and Then they make the second movie
00:06:38
Speaker
Yeah. Which is a solid, it is a solid movie. I've seen the second one more than the first one and it's not because it's a good strangers movie. It's just because it's a fun horror movie. Like strangers pray by night is a bad movie in terms of those characters of the three strangers. But in terms of like a fun horror movie part two is good. So if like this guy is three movies and he's telling an arc,
00:07:07
Speaker
As long as that arc does not culminate and I don't want to see the strangers with their masks off. I don't want to know their backstory. I just want to have three movies where that tone is carried from movie to movie to movie. Well, you know, you're probably going to get a little backstory. I fucking hope not because I think the idea is that if these three go good, he's just going to do the exact same method and try and suck them out of money and make three more.
00:07:37
Speaker
So I, I would rather just keep it ambiguous, but who knows? I don't want to get into the, I hope this isn't the, I hope podcast. This is, this is the waiting for other players podcast. God damn it.
00:07:49
Speaker
And, uh, we've, we've gone eight minutes on the fucking strangers for Christ's sake. So we did 10 on final fantasy. So yeah, but there's, there's two strangers movies and there's fucking 17 final fantasies. Okay. Fair. Uh, we're going to hit this. How are you not dead? I have no idea. And, um, well, I'll try it into gameplay. Is there anything specific you want to go over or do you just want to spit ball some stuff? Um,
00:08:16
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any specific games I wanted to go over. Not that I can think of the top of my head. It's been it's been kind of a not a slow time, but nothing like, oh, shit, did you see that? It's just been, you know, steady, good hunting that one last night at Scupper Lake, where we showed up and there was
00:08:45
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We heard bounty coming in from the gray, from the graveyard, from the church, right? And then we were coming in on the opposite side where the extraction usually is where the spawn point usually is we circled wide. And as we get there, we're trying to do as much damage as we can before the other team gets there from the church.
00:09:10
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And fucking our third guy just, he manages to get inside with, um, I think he just had a heavy knife. He ices out two out of three, or you might've got all three. I don't know. I had a sparks and, um, I had a spark or I think I had a slate, a slate, uh, repost and I think
00:09:36
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can't remember exactly we're getting weeds but either way we ice them out we get in we barricade ourselves and then we just proceed to have the nuttiest showdown between a solo and a team of two and the team of two or it was a team of three one was hanging back we had a solo and a team of three because then the solo eventually gets in the basement ice him out and then the team of three keep hanging far back
00:10:06
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by the tree line and one of them gets bold he starts running and he gets to like one of the first houses where you can run up the roof to kind of yeah over into the compound fucking shoot him in the face he goes down we've run over to burn him and then it just proceeds to be a whole game of grab-ass with we may have lost I don't even want to think that we won we may have lost I think we did end up
00:10:37
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I do think we ended up losing that one, but it was. It was so good though. Like, like up until the end, we were on it. Yeah. It was a good game. Yeah. I mean, those, those are the games I tend to like walk away giggling thinking about later. Like I'll be thinking about, I've been thinking about that shit all day. Uh, like I opened the window, the shutters a couple of different times on the, um, and the boss layer to try and see these guys. Cause I'm looking through dark side. I'm like, I know they're right there.
00:11:07
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And there was at least twice I caught around in the face and you can't help but laugh because it's like they're being just as shitty as I am. Like, I don't want to, I could just easily go charge him. I don't want to go out there, but they're also like, I'm going to stand right here and watch his fucking window, dude. So those are good ones. Yeah, they're just funny. Our third also had a good one in prison, the new map prison.
Humorous Gameplay Moments & Social Media
00:11:36
Speaker
where he had his machete out. We were on the rafters on the opposite of the big tower. And all I come up and see you dead and I see him do what I think is a melee swing. And then you two just start laughing your ass off like a similar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come to find out it wasn't a melee strike. He threw a sticky bomb.
00:12:05
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the guy. Yeah, that's on our Instagram. And instead of charging us, he proceeded to run away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, no, I, um, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's on our Instagram. We're checking out. Um, we have to get his settings changed because his, his, uh,
00:12:27
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his like party chat never comes through in any of our, um, our clips, but the minute he throws that sticky bomb him and me were just screaming and cackling. Cause I was like, I can't believe you got him. I can't believe you stuck him. And the guy turns around and takes off running. I was like, what a loser. Like he should have just stood there and he would have got both me and him. He should have stood there. He should have charged. He should have. Oh yeah. He should have made a football move.
00:12:54
Speaker
I mean, even if you die, that thing's still going off. Well, the thing is, is he was the third and his other two teammates were dead. So you got to try to take everybody with you at that point. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like I'm I'm punching. I'm punching machete Phil. And either he's like, I'm clearly dying. So either he's coming with me or he's killing me and I'm still taking him with me because the damn the damn sticky bomb still going to go off. Yeah.
00:13:26
Speaker
That was a pretty good gameplay. It was funny because I'm just like, what's going on? Are you guys dead? And you two are just laughing to yourselves. And I'm like, what did you stab him in the face? And he's like, no. Yeah, it was a hell of a thing.
00:13:53
Speaker
Let's launch right into this fucking thing before I get lost on the soundboard again. All right, topic of tonight. Ooh. Man, it's Scotch is fucking whooping my ass. Scotch on a Wednesday. Um, the topic of tonight.
00:14:20
Speaker
We're post the event now, been done with the event for a few weeks and we're right back to vanilla hunt. Same as it ever was. Is there any change in your gameplay style with vanilla hunt as opposed to a event hunt? Um, do you keep an eye on your challenges more or do you just say, fuck it. I'm gonna play whatever I want. Um,
00:14:45
Speaker
I play, I say fucking play whatever I want, but I've been playing the carabiner a lot lately. I mean, it's a solid gun. Yeah. All the very, I mean, with the exception of the, the dead eye and the marksman, like the, I'm an iron sights guy, but yeah, better lease all around. It's very, very solid gun. Um, do you have any, uh, I mean, do you have any,
00:15:11
Speaker
I mean, I guess you just said you have preferred loadouts, but like, is there, are you more relaxed when it's just right? Or do you, do you feel like you have more to lose now? Like, like during, during the event, it's all about grinding points and trying to get that W to get as much shit as you can out of it. But like right now you're almost getting, you're gearing up for the next event. So like, if you, if you get lazy now,
00:15:40
Speaker
Like that MMR is going to carry over into the next event. You're going to get stuck in these shitty lobbies. Yeah. Um. I would say not that the MMR has nothing to do with anything. I would say less that I'm, you know, worried about losing anything anymore. I'm seeing a lot more random crazy loadouts. Mm hmm. I'm seeing a lot more.
00:16:09
Speaker
Uh, especially ammo on everything. Yeah. Um, a lot more explosive ammo coming around. Nitros. Nitros were around a little bit, but not a lot. Um, I've gotten a handful of kills over the past few nights and, uh, a couple of the people that I killed had a night. They were, they were rocking nitro melee. Yeah. Made no sense to me. Uh, we also had that team that was doing.
00:16:39
Speaker
uh, explosive crossbow explosive bomb lands. So it was like we were in NAM there were explosions everywhere.
Vanilla vs Event Hunt Debate
00:16:50
Speaker
It was crazy. I will say my favorite thing you've done, uh, before we get back to the interview, uh, my favorite thing you've done in the past few, uh, times we've played is you've gotten into this rhythm now, where if somebody has special ammo that can bite us in the ass,
00:17:07
Speaker
You empty that gun and then give it back to them. Yeah. And well, you thought the guy had steel balls in the bomb lands and he had the wax charge. So you just shoot it right in the room with us and then it proceeds to just a Nile. Like we all took heat. We're all down bars. We're all bleeding and shit. I was like, yeah, do that outside. Take that shit outside, please. Yeah, I, uh, I didn't realize that's what he had until
00:17:36
Speaker
Uh, I lost a small health bar and I was like, ah, shit. The icons are pretty close to the same. It's just a stick with a bunch of shit coming out the end. Yeah. I wasn't paying enough attention. Yeah. May have done something that I don't really regret, but it was funny. Uh, it's funny, but that's also like, that's just a funny, like, it's just a funny thing for like, even if it is a solo that solos getting up and his terminus is just empty.
00:18:07
Speaker
Like that's just fucking hilarious to me. Yeah, I've taken precautions because. We haven't run into too many neck, too many solos standing up, but we run into a lot of teams with Necro. And I'll tell you what, vanilla hunt. We have had our fair share of solos and stuff like.
00:18:36
Speaker
At this point, bitching about solos is just a meme in itself. Like it's a part of the game. It's a way to play the game. It's a way that I appreciate people playing the game. I'm fine with the solo. People with Necro are more scary to me than a solo because I could sit there and I can work. I can I could just as easily burn a solo and camp him. But if I burn a Necro and I camp the Necro, that guy still out there fucking trying to get an angle on me.
00:19:06
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So the minute I take my eyes off his buddy, I risk catching a throwing knife in the back or something. Yeah. And we had a, we had a few of those where we were able to down the teammate and then they just, unfortunately for them, keep neckrowing them. Yeah. Well, that's why I'm a two star buddy.
00:19:31
Speaker
Well, I need somebody to take the shot so I can clutch it. No, yeah. I'm not bitching about, like I said, I think I don't think the MMR has anything to do with anything because I'll, I love quick play. I love playing regular bounty hunt, but I love playing quick play and I'll float between a three and a two. I'll drop to a two. I'm not upset about it. It happens, but the minute I dropped to a two, every lobby I get in for quick play is nothing but four and fives.
00:20:02
Speaker
That doesn't make any sense. I mean, it's fine, but I'm like, so what fucking sense does the MMR make? Like it makes if it's supposed to be there to get you match made with a person closer to your playing style and like. It just it makes zero sense. Yeah, I I don't get it, because when. We've been getting a lot of one to two stars on our maps.
00:20:32
Speaker
than normal, but yeah, those guys got far less to lose and they're much more likely to charge you or hit a hit a dumb headshot out of nowhere. Oh, yeah, they are aggressive. Here's one vanilla hunt. We're leading into the next event, like I've said, when the next event happens, will you be playing it on PC as well as
00:20:58
Speaker
console since you are a, you're a, uh, you're starting your PC hunt journey. Uh, so I only play every now and then with a coworker. Yeah. Currently that coworker is engrossed in surviving, uh, the jungles of arc. Yeah. But would you, would you be interested in, um, attempting
00:21:27
Speaker
Like I wouldn't be interested in it. I, you know, I can't say I wouldn't, because I absolutely would play more on PC. Well, we had gone over it on a hunt banish extract. Find them wherever your podcasts are sold. Um, that while you're, you're a man who walks between worlds, you have both, you have a feet in both ponds. You're a console man.
00:21:55
Speaker
and you're a PC boy, you're starting your PC journey, but I didn't know if it was one of those things where like, you're a console guy, I'm doing the event on the console, I don't wanna fuck around with the PC, or if you were gonna take the time and take a shot and be like, no, I wanna see what this heat is, I wanna see what it's like playing this shit on a fucking PC when everybody's coming out of the woodwork.
00:22:20
Speaker
No, I'd play it on PC without without any real issue. Just everybody I know plays on console, so that's what I play on. I mean, it's it's where we are. Yeah. It's a good place to be. You know, I have fun with it. Well, yeah, on on PC, they don't they don't go time to pull out the knuckle knife in charge. Oh, yeah. Whereas on consoles, we do that all the time. Oh, yeah.
Creative Gameplay Scenarios
00:22:50
Speaker
They got to make that last stand. You got to come in there all kinds of fucking. Yeah, you got to give them a what for? Yeah, they would and do still fall for the babe to baby Caldwell's shooting both shots. Yeah. And then, you know, turn it around a corner and shoot them again.
00:23:15
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that apparently works on every version of Hunt. So remember, when in doubt, double shotgun. Oh, yeah. Just because he fired twice doesn't mean that's all he's got. Yeah, because I can only I I wish I could be in their chat when it happens, because just the thought of I you son of a bitch. You had two shotguns. I can't believe it. Yeah.
00:23:43
Speaker
And when I told him I did that, there was a whole lot of you're the fucking asshole who ruins the game for people. And I was like, yes, yes, I do. There's that. But then it's also as bad as like taking taking two hand crossbows and you load one with just the noise maker with just the chaos. So that way, when you run up to somebody, you just take their fucking weapon and you give them the chaos crossbow so they have no weapon.
00:24:14
Speaker
That's fucked up. Yeah. Who would do that? I mean, I've thought about it. If I was a better player, I'd make it happen. But I'm such a shit player. I'm like, that'll bite me in the ass way before it bites them in the ass. Yes, because I'm more likely to switch to it and try to kill them. Oh, yeah. Getting to be closing out here. Here's a closing thought for you. Yeah. Do you prefer a vet hunt or vanilla hunt?
00:24:44
Speaker
I'd like an event because there's structure and the player base is there. It's built in. Everybody's there for that thing, whether they stay for the length of the event or they leave early for at least the first two weeks. Every map's full. Everybody's fighting. Everybody's doing, there's fun gameplay, whether they're being creative or they're fucking around and just getting the bounty and leaving people looking for.
00:25:09
Speaker
Fucking Rockjaw, like there's shit going on for two weeks. Vanilla Hunt is when you see the true people stick around. That's when you get the sweatlords that are just laying in wait, they're training, they're waiting for the next event. And whereas I do, like, I feel like you're playing, I like them both. I think they both have their place. If you tell me there's an event,
00:25:38
Speaker
I'm geeking out and I'm deleting everything off my hard drive. I'm only playing hunt for the length of the event. But if there's no event going on and it's just vanilla, I can dip my toe in and out. But I know when I dip my toe in and out, I have to be on my fucking toes because the people that are playing in the in between time, those are the real ones.
00:26:00
Speaker
I agree. Like, you know, like, like you're not playing this and you're not playing. You're not going to Vietnam in peacetime if you're not going there to fuck shit up. Yeah. Like you're not playing hunt and non fucking event time. If you're not there to fucking take everything and leave, if you're not taking, if you don't have a full sweep and not in non event time and peacetime, if you don't have a full sweep and you've cleared the map of everybody, you're fucking up.
00:26:31
Speaker
That's that's what I like about vanilla hunt, but I also like the crazy gimmicks of events. So I wish there was a little more mix of it in between. You know, I wish people went for the clean sweep a little more during events and. To piggyback on your thing about the crazy powers and like stuff you get during the events, I'd like more burn traits.
00:27:00
Speaker
give me more burn traits in the world that give people weird shit and make, go back to making them only two, two pulls. Like if there's a burn trait for rampage and only you and machete Phil pick it up, that's cool. That means now in the next encounter you have rampage. If there's like, if there's something else like cool in a map and they're like another team pulls it,
00:27:26
Speaker
That's rad. Now they have an upper hand and I'm fighting from underneath. That's just a cool thing. Yeah. And they can even do stuff that changes the effects or do wacky stuff where your firebomb now, it works on water and can burn people in the water. Yeah, that'd be pretty cool.
00:27:52
Speaker
You know, your, uh, your bug, if you throw the bug out, it has dark site, but it like flashes. So people see it. Yeah. Plays the Bee Gees. Yeah. Something to make it. Everyone knows this is what's going on. Yeah. But you get dark site and you can see everybody. Uh, yeah. And like.
00:28:17
Speaker
I like the idea of the burn traits. I like the idea that it's a one and done. When it's used, it's gone. It gives you a unique ability that's not readily accessible. But I would like it if they put their heads against the wall and they were like, fine. What was the the melee pact from the last event?
00:28:37
Speaker
uh berserker berserker yeah berserker as a um it's a burn trait your first boss you kill with a melee attack with your first melee kill on a boss berserker is fucking burned or like your first i like the idea that they burn when you die so then basically until your first death you have that berserker buff or mariner you could have mariner as a burn trait but the first time you die
00:29:05
Speaker
Mariners go like that'd be a fun way for them to start funneling in old traits and just make them like Increase the rarity of them because right now if I find a burn trait nine times out of ten, it's fucking shadow Or ramp or I think shadow and rampage are really like the only two Yeah, Scott the scotch I had is really hitting me hard right now But then here I got an idea for one for you. Yeah, what about a burn trait where I?
00:29:33
Speaker
your melee attack with your weapon, assuming it doesn't have the bayonet is berserker where it does like triple damage, but your pistol weapon, everybody. I mean, I think that's how berserker works with any melee attack, doesn't it? Berserker does, but I want one on specifically for your weapon for the guns. Yeah. I want to see people pulling up, pulling up the pistol and start trying to pistol with people with everything. Oh yeah.
00:30:02
Speaker
You know, yeah, non non brawler guns are just people just fucking jacking you in the face with a Scofield. Do it, do it, or they're coming at you with a true shot. It just do crazy stuff for the the all maps this weekend. Yeah. Pistol weapon people one one shot some weapon. This time weapon cash is in the center of the map only this weekend. Yeah. The boss is at the middle of the map.
00:30:32
Speaker
Halfway there God my fucking ass just clinched thinking about that You have any idea how crowded that everybody would just be like moving right to the middle of the map. Yes The boss and rock draw are in the middle of the map together and They don't have a problem with each other, but you do and rock draw just circles the compound and
00:31:01
Speaker
Damn. God, that. Oh, man. I mean, it sounds like fun, but I'm fucking terrified thinking about which one to kill first and how fucked we are when people show up. And all I have is going to have everybody circling the boss layer, circling that whole compound going.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
00:31:21
Speaker
I'm not going in till I'm the last man standing. And I'm sitting in there with a Springfield and a Derringer penny shot. And I'm just like, well, this was fun.
00:31:31
Speaker
up until about five minutes ago when three different teams all had fucking wax loads and they're just, they're just carpet bombing this fucking compound. Yeah. But you have, you have Rockjaw playing security guard for you. So being the first one in the boss layer would be an advantage cause you got Rockjaw body garden for you. Yeah.
00:31:55
Speaker
I mean, I look, I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with anything. You're also fucked because you have to get your dad before you can leave. Yeah, you can't leave. Yeah. Yeah. I, uh, I'm a big fan of both of them, but I'm having, I'm having a good time with a vanilla hunt for right now. There's no sign yet as to when the next event's going to start. And I kind of liked that. I liked that. They're just the event ended last week. Last week, our time we're banking this to make sure you get episodes in a row.
00:32:24
Speaker
Uh, the event ended last week. And as far as I know, there's nothing on the books. And I liked that. I liked that. We're just living in this in between time. But, uh, is there anything you want to say on the way out? No, I, you know, keep at it and, um, clean sweep or bust, baby clean, sweeper bust. Yeah. Yep. 20, 24, 2024. We're not hassling solos no more. That's their slogan this year. Uh, praise our God.
00:32:54
Speaker
I mean- They get mouthy, they get burned. Yeah, but I mean, we're not fucking, we're not dragging them out. May our God Dave Fifield, the guy that runs the game, may Dave Fifield bless you all. Uh, pull up a chair next to your solo friends. Stay warm together by the fire. Gentlemen, you're living a three star life, ladies. I hope you guys all have a six star week. Harrison, say goodbye on the way out the door. Good night, everybody.
00:33:22
Speaker
I'm glad to be back. I'm glad to have y'all here. I'm happy your show's still going. And God damn it. Yeah, I'm just happy I'm here. Look us up. Waiting for other players, Pod. All one word on Instagram. Come hang out. We're having a good time. I'm the best. I'm the best looking. Nobody stands a chance against me. And people fucking love me. That's the VIP bottom line.
00:33:53
Speaker
Awesome. Well, bye. Okay.