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season 2-episode 7 theme months and what the hell is a witch's garden?

S2 E7 · waiting for other players: a hunt showdown podcast
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the cowpokes gather round once more to discuss the witch's garden, and we let clutch go hard on delicious dungeon 

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Intro

Introduction and Weekly Chat

00:00:36
john hewitt
Clutch Clutch welcome back to waiting for other players a hunt show down podcast this is john kacker about you live from the cat house and once again i'm joined by the salt the swat the thriller in vanilla the one man kug fu swat team the mayor monty fisto clutch clutch how are you doing on this evening
00:01:04
Clutch Commander
I'm doing pretty good. It's been a good week so far.
00:01:05
john hewitt
Damn right. Oh, yeah. Howdy, partner! that's not fucking dilly-dally. We're just gonna, uh...

Sound Clips Collection Discussion

00:01:14
john hewitt
I got so many fucking sound clips on here now, I don't know what to hit, so I'm gonna hit this one. Please put down your weapon. You have 20 seconds to comply.

Anime Discussion: 'Delicious in Dungeon'

00:01:27
john hewitt
And we're going to launch right into segment one What have you been doing this week? Sponsored by Cats, Dogs, Harrison. I'm going need you to think on your toes. What have you been doing this week?
00:01:37
Clutch Commander
This week I started watching Delicious and Dungeon.
00:01:44
john hewitt
You got to be quicker on your feet, man.
00:01:45
Clutch Commander
That was Mark of Mike.
00:01:47
john hewitt
You now have 15 seconds to comply. How far far have you gotten?
00:01:55
Clutch Commander
Have you seen the show at all?
00:01:59
john hewitt
Uh, for, uh, first like four or five episodes. Uh, it's a really good show. I love the animation. i love the little guy, the little dwarf with the walk instead of a shield.
00:02:09
Clutch Commander
yeah Okay.
00:02:10
john hewitt
Uh, that's I'd play him in a D and campaign in a heartbeat, but, it's one of those shows where I liked it a lot. And then I started watching something else and it just, I didn't like it enough that it stuck with me to keep watching it.
00:02:25
Clutch Commander
So episode 13 it gets dark as fuck.
00:02:31
john hewitt
Oh no. Oh no.
00:02:34
Clutch Commander
And like To the point that I had to stop and go, am I like watching the right show?

Exploring Dark Themes in Anime

00:02:42
Clutch Commander
And it it it was all in theme and everything, but it was one of those where i was like, don't know how i feel about this anymore.
00:02:43
john hewitt
Yeah.
00:02:49
john hewitt
Oh yeah.
00:02:50
Clutch Commander
It's dark as shit.
00:02:50
john hewitt
Yeah. you
00:02:51
Clutch Commander
I'm going to keep watching now because it went crazy.
00:02:51
john hewitt
Yeah.
00:02:54
john hewitt
Yeah. You took a hard left and I just want to see if you could stick the landing on the hard left.
00:02:56
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:03:00
Clutch Commander
Yeah, so far it has, but it was it was a hard... hard left that it took in a good way but it was yeah
00:03:07
john hewitt
Hmm. Yeah, I got to get back into it. Oh, yeah. I've literally heard nobody say the show is trash.
00:03:19
john hewitt
But that's that's it. Just been a lot of hunting, delicious dungeons.
00:03:24
Clutch Commander
yeah not not a lot of extra this week from and anything else This week, i've I started watching it.
00:03:32
john hewitt
yeah
00:03:35
Clutch Commander
it It kind of caught me. And then it got dark, and i was like, well I got to know how it ends. I can't stop here.
00:03:43
john hewitt
Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're kind of in the same boat.

Show Discussion: 'Paradise' Dual Plot Structure

00:03:45
john hewitt
We started watching Paradise on Hulu, and it's the same way where like it starts off and there's a lot of intrigue.
00:03:53
john hewitt
And then like from the second episode forward, they have like an A-plot and a B-plot, and the A-plot is the current situation, and the B-plot is always a flashback to this character's life before Hulu.
00:04:06
john hewitt
like all of this happened.
00:04:08
Clutch Commander
Mm-hmm.
00:04:08
john hewitt
And it seems like the a plot is there to keep you sucked at the show. And the B plot just shows up just to crush your fucking heart and soul.
00:04:17
Clutch Commander
Nice.
00:04:18
john hewitt
Cause every flashback, you're like, this is so cute. And then like, by the end of the episode, you're like wanting to call a parent and tell them you love them or fucking hug a cat. Like, like the, the flashbacks at the end of each episode, you're just like, you son of a bitch.
00:04:37
john hewitt
But yeah, Paradise and Delicious Dungeon. i think I think it's safe to say we both give them two thumbs up. Five stars.
00:04:46
Clutch Commander
yeah
00:04:47
john hewitt
Yeah. Dwight, you ignorant slut! Yeah, we're just going to launch right into segment two with our gameplay.

Gameplay Strategies and 'Melee March'

00:04:59
john hewitt
thought I had pretty good sound clip, and now I can't find it
00:05:04
Clutch Commander
and That's pretty good.
00:05:06
john hewitt
Yeah, I like it. So we've been we've been fucking on a tear. We've been doing some banging.
00:05:14
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:05:15
john hewitt
First off. I'll jump in and I'll say theme months are back. I've been running what I like to call melee march. Every loadout has to have a melee weapon. And it has treated me surprisingly well.
00:05:30
john hewitt
Because it makes me have to depend on whatever that primary gun is. For a while, I was going rifle or shoddy with one slot, an axe, bat, sword, machete, whatever.
00:05:49
john hewitt
And then load up your load up your tools. Like like a man DJ says, you got take both dangers and dangle your balls out a little bit. So I've been doing that.

Post-Event Gameplay Strategies

00:06:00
john hewitt
But what I've found is even better way to do melee melee march is bomb lance and then you go pistol. Or I don't know about you, but for some reason, every time I buy a legendary hunter lately, he just comes with fucking quartermaster.
00:06:21
Clutch Commander
Yeah, I've been getting that a lot too.
00:06:23
john hewitt
it's I'm not mad at it, but there was a stretch there where i was like, I don't need this because everything I'm taking is a full size in one slot. But you're going to give quartermaster, I'll be bow, whatever.
00:06:40
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:06:42
john hewitt
But what have you been running since we're post event? And we've actually been doing the challenges fairly quickly.
00:06:51
Clutch Commander
It depends on what the challenge is If there's not a challenge, it depends on my mood and how our games are going.
00:07:00
john hewitt
Yeah.
00:07:01
Clutch Commander
You know, I get i get a little burn and explosive happy if it's If it's going bad for us.
00:07:08
john hewitt
Yes. Yeah, no, that's a it's a very classic thing where when shit gets weird, you go double explosive Chukano and just level the place.
00:07:17
Clutch Commander
Yes.
00:07:19
Clutch Commander
It's so fun because I didn't know they were sticky until I stuck a guy.
00:07:25
john hewitt
Yeah. Yeah, i've I've went the other way. I can't trust myself with thehukkanu but i do like the I do love coming back to the wax frag bombs that come in the bomb lance, the ones you can shoot in the water and stuff.
00:07:38
Clutch Commander
yes
00:07:40
john hewitt
Those things are so choice. But the Chukano is, feel like if I just took it more, I'd be better with it. But it there's just something to it. That fire rate, the explosive rounds.
00:07:51
john hewitt
I don't think I've seen anybody take the fire.
00:07:54
Clutch Commander
no don't I might have yes
00:07:55
john hewitt
but the explosive, nah, the explosive and the standard are just so choice.
00:08:05
Clutch Commander
it is very fun you definitely have to learn
00:08:10
Clutch Commander
trigger control because you very quickly can run out
00:08:13
john hewitt
Yeah.
00:08:17
john hewitt
Yeah. I've also started, since I've taken a

Unconventional Tools in Gameplay

00:08:20
john hewitt
bladed weapon, and don't have anything to beat the, emulators with. So I'm taking either a ammo box or a toolbox to beat the shit out of these guys with. So I've rediscovered how much I love the ammo box and toolbox.
00:08:35
Clutch Commander
but if you are and join that
00:08:35
john hewitt
I, it's just, it's something you don't think about yet. Well, it's something you don't think about until you have it in your inventory where you're like, We got in this weird rhythm where it was like three games in a row.
00:08:46
john hewitt
I'd go in, I'd have my my normal buff load out, my regen, stamina shot, weak stamina shot if I have conduit just to get a bump to get to the first clue, but weak stamina, and then the weak vitality in case I need something to keep me alive in a fight.
00:09:04
john hewitt
And then I would have the toolbox or the ammo box. And there's nothing better than being down and out in a fight, and then you're like, hold the fucking phone. I've got a box. Like, just dropping a box in the middle of a fight is such a good feeling.
00:09:21
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:09:23
john hewitt
I mean, you've partaken of it a couple times. Like, sometimes you you sometimes you get fucked, sometimes you walk out with an antidote shot, but if we both pull from it we both get dynamite bundles, that's a tide turner.
00:09:35
Clutch Commander
Oh. Oh yeah. i've I've enjoyed the benefits from it, but I am not one who could actively use it in a meaningful way like you can.
00:09:41
john hewitt
Oh, yeah.
00:09:52
john hewitt
Uh, yeah. i Well, I also forget I have shit to throw nine nine times out of ten. So the fact that I've i've been able to use it is great, but at the same time, the i usually take my needles immediately, so that first ammo supply, I'm just like looking for a toolbox where I'm like, God, just give me something I can put in one of these empty slots now.

Ideas for Future Themed Months

00:10:18
john hewitt
Melee March. Any thoughts on a theme for April? i don't know. I'm not doing Advo April. rule I don't have that kind of money.
00:10:28
john hewitt
Aperture April.
00:10:31
Clutch Commander
april no
00:10:31
john hewitt
But I don't like I don't like the aperture. i feel like it's got to be aperture April. bro I got to learn.
00:10:40
john hewitt
I'll do aperture April.
00:10:43
Clutch Commander
yeah i'm trying to think of anything else you could do
00:10:47
john hewitt
I think hit us up in the comments waiting for the players pod. All one word on Instagram. If you have an idea for any of these theme months, you want to see me just get dragged myself through absolute hell. By all means throw it in the comments or hit me up with a DM.
00:11:02
john hewitt
I accept all DMS. I've got several people harassing me. I think they're just bots, but whatever. But if you got, if you want to legitimately hang out, bullshit, catch up with the rest of the legendary hunters, by all means DM me.
00:11:16
john hewitt
Waiting for other players, pod, all one word. I'm always responding. Right now, the only thing I'm thinking of is Aperture April.
00:11:24
Clutch Commander
You can go Axe April, where you take Hand Axe and you take the Axe melee weapon.
00:11:32
john hewitt
It could be an all-axe loadout, and then it turns into a naked run with just axes.
00:11:38
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:11:40
john hewitt
God, that sounds good, too.
00:11:43
john hewitt
It may be it. I mean, the axe, I'm kind of hitting... Yeah, we'll chalk that one up there at the top of the at the top of the board. Axe April.
00:11:52
Clutch Commander
Yeah, it's the only thing I can think of.
00:11:54
john hewitt
All axes. All the time.
00:11:59
john hewitt
I'll workshop it a little bit. but Let's launch right into segment three. I'm not gonna... not going to fuck around. Give me that sweet, sweet.
00:12:22
john hewitt
Okay.

New Hunt Showdown Event: 'The Witch's Garden'

00:12:24
john hewitt
ah ah so we had the trailer come out for the witch's garden.
00:12:28
Clutch Commander
Yes.
00:12:30
john hewitt
not going to get into the particulars because dates and everything change by the next episode. We should either be close to it or we should have more finite details. But the trailer itself, your immediate thoughts, what did what did you think about it?
00:12:46
Clutch Commander
I'm interested in the fact that she's saying you know follow the crows. So I don't know if when you activate crows they no longer fly directly away from you. They now fly toward wherever the garden is.
00:12:58
john hewitt
Towards Could be. Could be.
00:13:02
Clutch Commander
Other than that, it was was cool cutscene. I enjoyed it. It didn't answer anything about what the event is, though.
00:13:12
john hewitt
Very little. I think she might have hinted to. but No, I don't think she hinted towards anything. She she talked in riddles like I was talking to my boss. Like, I didn't understand a thing she said.
00:13:25
john hewitt
But she looked dope with her weird fucking. she looked She looked like somebody... She looked like a baby in a NICU where they put that thing in their nose.
00:13:36
john hewitt
like when Like when a baby's born too early and they got like the thing running in their nose. I was like, that is not a... That's not a piercing. like What is that fucking thing going in your goddamn face?
00:13:45
Clutch Commander
Yeah, I'm not too sure what it was. It was an interesting cutscene.
00:13:49
john hewitt
Me neither.
00:13:52
Clutch Commander
I'm curious what it's going to be.
00:13:52
john hewitt
I will we say...
00:13:55
Clutch Commander
Yes.
00:13:56
john hewitt
Exactly. And I like that there's a physical witch.
00:14:00
Clutch Commander
Yes.
00:14:00
john hewitt
The witch is not like an ambiguous thing. It's like it's clearly the witch's garden and we have a literal we have a villain. We have a literal witch in the cutscene.
00:14:10
Clutch Commander
Yes.
00:14:12
john hewitt
I thought the fight was really good.
00:14:15
Clutch Commander
I like fire and fights.
00:14:18
john hewitt
oh yeah, it's fucking. air it can be only one Fuck yes. Like it was. I love everybody because that guy with the slit in the mask has been the guy they've used for all the footage, all all the screenshots for the new Oberaz stuff, which we'll get to in a minute.
00:14:35
john hewitt
But everybody's like, is that a welding helmet? I don't think he's a welder. I think that dude, the dude looks like a the fucking like a knight on a crusade. It looked like he had goddamn.
00:14:45
john hewitt
It looked like the the family at the beginning of Devil's Rejects when they're all wearing like their homemade armor.
00:14:51
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:14:53
john hewitt
like I thought it was dope. It looked dope. I can't wait to play that guy. He looks dope as shit.
00:14:57
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:15:01
john hewitt
but ah any Any other impressions you got straight off the cuff? i mean we really don't have We have the the brief information we've gotten from streamers like Psycho Ghost that have read the the same the same releases we have.
00:15:13
john hewitt
We know there's going to be packs and all this other...
00:15:15
Clutch Commander
yeah
00:15:16
john hewitt
the the there's note Well, no packs. The packs are just going to be introduced as regular traits. You buy the traits straight up. for whatever lane you want to run in and They've switched it up that way, but like as far as the actual mechanics of the way they the event will play out, we don't really know what is going on.
00:15:37
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:15:38
Clutch Commander
Yeah,

Event Mechanics and Developer Updates

00:15:38
Clutch Commander
no, we don't we don't know.
00:15:38
john hewitt
But...
00:15:39
Clutch Commander
I'm curious to see what's going to end up happening with it. You know, it seems like it's going to be out in the world, so it's going to be different than the normal one. so I'm kind of excited for that.
00:15:52
Clutch Commander
It's just we're going to have to wait and see.
00:15:54
john hewitt
Yeah, hopefully we get, usually we'll get something like a week or two prior where it's like they've been fucking with it beta or something. They've been fucking with it in the test server. Like usually Psycho Ghost or one one of the streamers fucking,
00:16:12
john hewitt
I mean, know, throw a rock. Any of the people on YouTube, they usually get a little bit of early access.
00:16:19
Clutch Commander
Or at least we get some kind of update on what it is.
00:16:22
john hewitt
Yeah, like a developer stream or something. Have you seen this new Mosin shit?
00:16:29
Clutch Commander
I haven't seen it yet. I am very curious to see them.
00:16:35
john hewitt
Yeah, they've taken the Oberes, the chopped down Mosin, and they've added the stock back onto it. And they've given you a regular one.
00:16:47
john hewitt
They've given you one with a dead eye. i don't know if there, I can't remember if there's a third variant. But I think it's their way of trying to keep... Because, I mean, the Mosin itself is still... It's it's a pricey gun.
00:17:02
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:17:03
john hewitt
The Oberes is actually a very affordable gun, being it's like two and some change. And, you know, it's still a Mosin. It's still got some drop-off, because it's a shorty, but it's still... It's legit.
00:17:17
john hewitt
So I guess by doing this, they're going to try and, like, pander more to the Oberes audience.
00:17:24
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:17:26
john hewitt
Are you a Mosin guy, or would you rather just stick with the ones we have, the full-size ones we have?
00:17:33
Clutch Commander
I like him most every now and then. It's not my, like, you know, oh my god, favorite gun ever.
00:17:41
john hewitt
Yeah.
00:17:42
Clutch Commander
You know, I don't i don't mind them when I get them, when I take them off of people.
00:17:48
john hewitt
Exactly. i like to If I kill you and you have a Mosin, I support Kirti and everything, so I just, you know... I do the Mosin for me. take the Mosin. I thank you, baby. And then I leave.
00:18:01
Clutch Commander
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:02
john hewitt
do it for Kurti.
00:18:04
Clutch Commander
No, I'm excited to see the look of the new guns. I'm excited to see what kind of event we're going to get and the new UI changes.

Gen Con Plans and On-The-Road Podcasting

00:18:16
Clutch Commander
you know excited all around. I'm just waiting for more updates on it.
00:18:21
john hewitt
Yeah, we got a holding pattern.
00:18:23
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:18:25
john hewitt
Yeah, I mean, we're we're in a good spot now, but yeah, I mean, all the new stuff is literally like right on the other side of the door. We're like, we're so close.
00:18:35
john hewitt
On our way out the door here, we're at about 18 minutes. On our way out the door, do you have anything you want to add? are you getting excited for Gen Con or...
00:18:45
john hewitt
Your boys are going to Gen Con. We're taking a show on the road. Waiting for other players podcast is going to Yeah, we're literally going to Gen Con.
00:18:52
Clutch Commander
Indianapolis, yeah.
00:18:53
john hewitt
We'll be chronicling the whole thing.
00:18:55
Clutch Commander
Yeah, I'm excited. i'm kind of just, you know, sadly it's still a long ways away, but I'm counting down the days.
00:19:04
john hewitt
Yeah, we have to pick games around May, so... Be able to take a look at what tables are open for whatever and book ourselves in some games, play a little D&D. We'll call Cthulhu.
00:19:15
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:19:16
john hewitt
Maybe for once we can play a human, human fighter. Because that's usually our our third guy's go-to class is six foot tall human fighter of some kind.
00:19:28
Clutch Commander
Yeah, but it kind of takes the fun out of it. It's what he always does. i don't want to do that.
00:19:33
john hewitt
No, I want to do it. Like there's been several times where I'm like, I know what I want to play. I just want to be a straight up knight. Like not like a knight with an agenda. Like literally I'm a knight on a job and I'm a human.

Role-Playing Game Character Choices

00:19:47
john hewitt
I'm a human. So I get like the feet, the human variant. So I get the feet off the top. And, you know, I just want to go straight like heavy armor, shield and sword, get it in old school.
00:20:00
john hewitt
And then every time we create characters, he goes first and he's like, so I'm a human with a background of a fighter and a criminal. And also a knight who's the best at everything.
00:20:13
john hewitt
And then you're like, you're just crumpling up your paper. You're like, dude, that's two thirds of what I had written down. So.
00:20:18
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:20:19
john hewitt
I guess I'll be a fucking warlock.
00:20:23
Clutch Commander
Yeah, I mean, he likes he he has his niche. He sticks to it. He likes it. you know, it is what it is.
00:20:31
john hewitt
It's fine. It's fine. It is what it is. I just don't want to like oversaturate it to where it's like we're all human fucking fighters.
00:20:38
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:20:38
john hewitt
So it's like when that's what he picks immediately like you have to pivot because you want to have some kind of party like, you
00:20:43
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:20:48
john hewitt
so like like a demographic like a you just want to have different people in the party doesn't you doesn't even have to be a a party breakdown where it's like you're healer you're a range guy you're a meat shield it's literally like you just don't want to have everybody in the party when it's time to turn you're like and your turn so you attack once okay cool your turn you you you also attack once okay that's cool your turn you're going to delay your action You're going to attack after he attacks. Okay, that's cool.
00:21:18
john hewitt
And it's just it just becomes a thing of being like, no, motherfucker, I want to attack. I want to cast Ensnaring Strike. I want to cast Firebolt. like you You want to have more shit going on.
00:21:29
Clutch Commander
Yeah.
00:21:31
john hewitt
But, what I mean, whatever. i have fun with every character I play.
00:21:33
Clutch Commander
Hey, man. Happy with it? Yeah.
00:21:35
john hewitt
Yeah.
00:21:36
Clutch Commander
I try to. Sometimes some are better than others.
00:21:41
john hewitt
See, i I always... Even even the random roll ones I always have a good time with.
00:21:45
Clutch Commander
I don't mind the random roll ones. It just seems like whenever I have a really great idea, end up stopping after one week.
00:21:52
john hewitt
That's true. Well, it's usually because you break the game.
00:21:57
Clutch Commander
It's not my... He could tell me no. He could tell me no.
00:22:01
john hewitt
You come up with some outlandish shit and I could just see through the webcam. The guy running the game is just like fucking...
00:22:14
john hewitt
I can see in his fucking eyes.
00:22:17
Clutch Commander
Look, man. He could tell me no or... No. He can tell me just no. Come up with something else.
00:22:23
john hewitt
Yeah. and It is what it is.
00:22:26
Clutch Commander
Yep.
00:22:28
john hewitt
We're getting a little lost in the weeds. We're dunking on people about D&D

Engaging with Instagram Community

00:22:31
john hewitt
shit. That's not where we're here. We're here for a hunt showdown waiting for the players pod. Catch up with us.
00:22:37
john hewitt
We're on Instagram. We got a bunch of good clips.
00:22:39
Clutch Commander
you
00:22:39
john hewitt
We got one fucking ripping it up right now of me hunting a guy down with a rail hammer. No spoilers for how it ends, but it's pretty fucking good. We got clips coming out our ass.
00:22:51
john hewitt
I'm always on there talking to people. Come on by waiting for the players pod. One word. We're on Instagram. Throw me a DM with any ideas for theme months.
00:23:02
john hewitt
Harrison, do you have anything you want to add on your way out the door?
00:23:06
Clutch Commander
No, just so i wish everybody good night.
00:23:10
john hewitt
And his name is John Cena!
00:23:19
john hewitt
I got that button on every page. It's in one slot of every page on the soundboard.
00:23:26
Clutch Commander
Nice.
00:23:27
john hewitt
Yeah, you never know when it's going to come. Ladies and gentlemen, this has been John, Cat, and Harrison. Love each other. Keep each other safe. It's a weird time in this country. It's a weird time all over the world. I'm going to thank our legendary hunters real quick.
00:23:42
john hewitt
These are people that interact with us on Instagram. You can become one just by stopping by, bullshitting with us a little bit. that Like I said, I'm always here. I'm always bullshitting. I'm always ready.
00:23:55
john hewitt
We're talking about Rat329, The Ponytail Palm. We're talking about all the bullies over at the Hunt, Banish, Extract podcast. We're Malcolm Glenn. We're talking about Post Malone. I'm going to keep sending you shit on fucking Instagram posts until the judge tells me I can't do it anymore.

Episode Conclusion with Community Vibes

00:24:09
john hewitt
We're talking about Richard's figures. Check out the page. The guy does some crazy fucking work. We're talking about Nitro Nate, Taco Man, We're talking about Manor Von Velt. We're talking about OG Gamer. We're talking Mitchell Gertz. We're talking about Hunt Showdown memes.
00:24:22
john hewitt
We're talking about Hunt Showdown clips. The actual Hunt, the game page. Come on by. Waiting for the Players Pod. All one word. where We're having a good time. We're putting up some fun shit.
00:24:35
john hewitt
Yeah, I think we've said enough, Harrison.
00:24:38
Clutch Commander
I think time to say goodnight.
00:24:38
john hewitt
Harrison's fault. Harrison's falling asleep. You're living a three-star life. I hope you have a six-star week.
00:24:47
john hewitt
My mouse isn't working. Everybody, good evening.